Mike Tyson on Discipline, Power, and the Cost of Greatness

I was scared to death of him. I was scared to death. That's why I didn't do no stupid shit. How does that make you feel? He did it. I'll even talk about your mother, your sister, that an sexist. Why he's fighting? Muhammad Ali and his prime, when Angela Dumbi, are by Tyson, his prime, customado. What happens? What does that look like? What is that all about? Welcome to the Sean Cali Unblinded Podcast, we're causing people to see what they don't see about how to grow their money. They're time to imagine with absolute integrity. We're here today with a master of masters we're going to introduce in one second, Mr. Mike Tyson. My name is Sean Cali. We are right now the number one business podcast in Apple Podcasts in the world. We're going to be the undisputed champs there, Mr. Mike Tyson. We're going to give you a quick intro if that's OK. Yeah, please, who's this man? Today we welcome a living myth, a man who rose from the storm swept streets of Brooklyn to become the youngest heavyweight champion in history. Mike Tyson is not just the force of nature in the ring, but a symbol of raw resilience, transformation, and the relentless pursuit of truth. His fists throughout history, but his journey through triumph, pain, and redemption reveals a heart as fierce as his punch. Mike's story is one of power, vulnerability, and the courage to evolve. He's a warrior, a philosopher, and a beacon for anyone who's ever faced impossible odds and dared to rise again. Mr. Mike Tyson, welcome. Thank you, sir. Yeah, pleasure. So, Mr. Tyson, we talk a lot about mentorship and leadership here, and your relationship with customado is literally one of the most famed relationships ever between a mentor and a apprentice, two masters rising together. And you've spoken about so much what he meant to you, what it was, what I'd love to know is just at the outset, what did he mean to you? How would your life have been different without an mentorship and customado? I don't know, but if you think about how it would have been different, it's just bad. It looks bad. So, I'm one of those guys that believe it wasn't meant to happen, so it didn't happen. But if I didn't meet this guy, it would have been bad. I just can't believe how I met this guy. I met this guy from the sewer system of Brownfield Brooklyn, and the next thing you know, I'm 13 years old, and I'm in the presence of a master. How did that happen? I don't know. The only thing I know is crying. That's all I know. Crying. I've been in detention all my life before I'm school, and I'm in front of this guy. How did you meet him? I was in a reformatory. This is how I started the boxing because I had Jess. I had no other fraternity and I was in a stab somebody there. So, they shipped me to this other place that was really not a nice place. You know, before, in other places you could go outside, but you're stayed in this place constantly. And so I went there and as I got there, I was locked up. I couldn't come in the population yet. I saw guys running to the back, going to their rooms, and they had crack ribs, they had cracked teeth, but they were happy. And I'm like, you know, what's going on in there? I can't believe you blood, they're happy. And they say their boxing would miss this, do it. It was an ex-professional boxer. They used to box with the kids. They behaved themselves. So, these guys were always on the top, on the roller because they wanted to box them. Even though he was killing them, they wanted to go and box them. So, I'm a boxed guy, right? I'm a goner boxer. Never boxed before. You know, you think they're smaller than you could beat them. So, I'm in a way. They got me tight hit me in the stomach. I've never been hit in the stomach in my life. I'm like, oh, we're down. And then I asked them, could you show me that stuff? And I never thought about being a boxer. I'm thinking about, I could do this knock a guy out and go on his pocket. I never thought about being a boxer. So, he started teaching me. Once I got my grades up, I had to get my grades up and on from the do that. And he started teaching me and teaching me and teaching me. And then eventually, yeah, I hit him and he got a black eye one day. He was mad the next day. And I don't understand why he was mad because he always kills me, right? But he was mad because his wife said, I can't box him anymore. And then he said, don't worry, I'm taking it to somebody else. And we're going to go to the next level. I had no idea what he was talking about at all. He took me there because met me and said, all these great things about me. The first day that I didn't believe, I thought it was some weird old kind of perv guy. I was saying all these great things about me. He didn't even know me. He said, will you have to be champ if you listen to me? And everything he told me was right. I didn't know who this guy was, but he was like, he was like, God sent. There's no doubt. I met him, I believed in God. That's amazing. Thank you. And the power of mentorship, leadership, God in the space, we'll talk about all that today. But what are other, I had the honor of interviewing Micah Rizioni from the Miracle and Ice Team, the Olympic Gold Medalist, right? He played for her Brooks and he would describe her Brooks as one of the most difficult, challenging, aggressive, masterful humans. And his love for her Brooks resonates. I mean, her Brooks didn't save his life to a custom auto-save jurors. But the rise in his mastery was so powerfully present through the level of mastery that her Brooks demanded. And you're coming from a place where you can't trust people. You come up in gangs, we'll talk about that in a little bit. But there's all these people who've tried to use you, hurt you, lie to you, dynamics in your home, your folks. You're beautiful, it should be your mom, absent that. All these things are going on. And as you said, you thought custom auto was a weird thing. You said the hardware issue, mom, mother. I'm sorry. You said I had a good one, they said the hardware issue, one mother. I'm sorry. I didn't understand. I heard positive things. It's true. Yeah. So you had all these people who let you down in ways from your mom, dad, all, you know, community, I'm sure teachers, people. You meet custom auto and you think for a second, he's, you know, a weird guy lying, just say nice things to you to use you. Right. What were some of the hardest moments with him? You know, we watched the movie The Crowdy Kid and Daniel at some point, his tell Mr. Miyagi thinks he's full of it and he's using him and he wants him to send his deck, wipe his floors. And he's ready to quit. We have times like that with custom auto. They're having you. Yeah, please. You know, the same thing. He was a, he was a strong believer in discipline. To the tee. You know, discipline to him was doing what you hated to do, but do it like you love it. You know what I mean? He loved the art of suffering. No, really, he loved the art of suffering. And what were some of the hardest things that custom auto put you through where you doubted him the most if you doubted him? Hey, listen, I never doubted him. I doubted me. I doubted me. I never could see what this man could see in me. This white old 70-year-old tired. And what did he see in me? I never, you know, I've told you though I never lived life and I get old. I could see now. Wow. But I mean, so, but that's incredible that you didn't doubt him. No, because I told, he told me that he said, if you listen to me, everything I say, and it don't work, you can go home and I'll give you money too. You can go. And I started listening to him. And then, and I started nothing people. And I became the national champion, the world amateur champion, this guy, this guy. This is in a year. I'm, this guy, it takes years for these kids to win these titles that I'm winning. I'm winning them in one year. Yeah, I was a big star when I was a kid. One year, think people year doing this title, being me being with him took me one year. Right. And for everybody to remember, because I think it could be easy, right? So, hear from me, Colleen Mike, Mr. Tyson, Colleen Mike, you asked me to. So, thank you Mike. You know, you are gifted, right? You had talent, you had ability. It don't mean nothing. Right. Please explain that. It doesn't mean nothing. Right. It's really, it's a good termination as dying to win. Talent means nothing, absolutely nothing. Everyone has talent. Everybody has a woman's talent. How far do you want to go with it? And I think that's such a critical point, because so many people could look at you and see what you did at such a young age. And I think the point that I'm taking away most and thank you, I'm learning today, you know, with you here, is that you, when you first started boxing, did not have a box, right? The guy that's training you, punch you and hit you in the stomach and you get hurt. Right. And then, because of the master, a master meeting somebody with incredible talent and ability, you. No, not with desire, one is to do it. Well, that talent means nothing but I didn't want to do it. And why did you want to do it? Like, what was it that was making you feel good and want to put the suffering in the custom auto? Like, what was the why? All these other kids of it. Okay. Right. Yeah. He made me believe it. You didn't do this. You would do nothing. This was the thing to be the head of the way champ of the world. The baddest man of the planet. He didn't know my head. He didn't have a head job with me. Oh, God. Yeah. And how did you do that? I didn't read about some of the mind exercises and things and he would have you visualize. Absolutely. Please tell us about some of that. Visualize things and talk about, you know, day by day and every way. Well, I'm the cry I think I'm about my old saying that I was a kid. And what was it that you would say? You would say by day and every way you get better and better. But that's just, that's the beginning stage. At the end of it, you be the next thing and you say, I'm fucking God. It's just what it is. You start from day by day, but everywhere and you're better, better, better. Next thing you know, from the best fight I ever lived. That's just what confidence do to you. Confidence pre-success, that's pre-sconfidence. Yeah. Well, amen. And would it be okay if we share what's going to be just the clip with Coss. Real quick. Okay. Is that okay? Please. We have a bunch of people who have a long tonight and a quick fight. See him talking like that? Scared the shit out of me. I'm scared. I'm nervous. I'm not doing it right. You're right. You're right, shoulder. See a little bit different. It should be more this way. So when you're driving it, nothing to hold that brawl. Because of real damage. You might drop the guy with one punch. But your aim at here is bring the same end. What do you get to do? You never bring it down. You be so, let me knock that guy over here. That one. Let's look here. I can't say honestly. I have a very deep affection for him. I'm not going to tell him that. I'm not going to tell him that. He's my boy. He's with me. I ought to say to him, you know, I owe you a lot. He doesn't know what I mean. I'm going to tell him now. He won't hear. I probably wouldn't be alive. The fact that he is here and doing what he's doing and doing as well as he's doing. And if he's doing it and if he's proving that he has, gives me the motivation and interest to stay alive. Because I believe that the flesh and the eyes when they know all the ones to live. But I have a reason with my skin. And he gives me the motivation. I don't stay alive. And I will watch him become a thing. Because I will not leave until I have. How does that make you feel? No. We did it. And this is it like a contrived moment. Mike, I've had incredible mentors in my life too. That have caused things like custom on it. It wasn't world champ. I would never be sitting here as a blind man. 75% people like me are unemployed. And I'm here because I have my custom on us. There's my high school coaches and athletics. That drove me like crazy. And this is something we try to bring out to the world. Because the things that you're talking about. Mike, are the things that we want the people here to know. We don't want to talk about ear bites and hangover movies. And all that's beautiful. It's fun. It's magical. And all the things you did. But what people want is what you have. People want to feel the way you feel about custom on it. About somebody in their life. They want their life saved. Like you had your life saved. And that's what my purpose here. And you know, these next 30 minutes is to help bring out for people. Because if, as Mike Tyson said, if he could do this. Maybe he can't be the champion of the world. Maybe he could have championed your house. And he could build a business and do things. So I think this is all about nothing to say about nothing that's been the champion of the world. But you're the champion of your world. You know, and that's what life is about. And they got to say about, because this is always about sacrificing. And when they, here's one they mean that he for two months. Yes, discipline. And all about discipline. Do what he hates to do. But doing it like he loves it. And he has enough starving himself. For whatever it is. I mean, I want to drink water for a week or something. He just like pushing himself to the limit. Because he's so fatuated with discipline. Can I tell you the truth about something? Please. Yeah. So I thought a lot about these days coming up. And it's really attractive, interesting, fun, sexy to have. You know, Mr. Mike Tyson here, you know, causes you to use people going to watch because of it. The most important reason that I want to be in this room is because I'm going to be the mother fucker. And I'm going to be the mother fucking champion of changing people's lives and the fucking planet. That is my outcome, my goal. And the people that put us together helping us do that with the truth. Because I want to be what custom auto was to people's lives and their businesses. And I want to be here and fill the energy because I knew a lot of this backstory. I heard you, you know, I'm only going to say I had the privilege of meeting you at Tony Robbins house. And that day, the stories you told them what you said. This is what human beings need. People are so scared and so afraid. And I know that I should a couple of times. I'm just asking, try to ask you one more time though, Mike. What is so special about you is that you didn't tell him to go fuck himself. And so many people want to tell that person who is standing for their future to go fuck off. You had no training, no background in listening to people and being disciplined at that. What I don't understand is the miracle of you. And how you didn't tell that white guy to go fuck himself. And seeing as using you, how did that happen so people who are listening could do the same thing. So you could help him. And that would be a little runaway bitches running. I was scared to death of him. I was scared to death. That's why I didn't do no stupid shit. He put the fear of God in me. How do you do that? I don't know. Every day I was asleep. Every day we told him I would do it. If it were me to kill somebody I would do it. And lock that in everybody. Next time you feel like you got to go to like some consciousness retreat from mindset and being flow. That's the champion of fucking world. That people would say it was the greatest heavyweight of all time. Nobody should talk to yourself. Nobody only talks about you. I know it sounds crazy. You ain't want to be God. Talk to yourself about that. We don't know who we are. We might be God. We might be the aliens we're talking about. We might be the aliens. I think we ought to have him. They got us thinking that's a man. We're the aliens. Well, thank you. So if I can ask you this. So how do you tell the difference though? Right? So at some point, Don King comes in. I'm not here to put you saying anything you want to say. But Don King comes in. He's got to look like he's got a lot of value to bring to your life. He's going to promote fights, do things. How do people... If you could go back and tell your gun to yourself. Like, would you still have entered the relationship with Don King? No, no. I'm going to explain this to you. I lost my mentor. I was injured. I was sick. I was struggling anymore. I lost this just. I made you part of me. That's why I was really vulnerable. I was looking for that role model. How long was this? I don't know. How long after Custom Auto passed, the Don King swooped in? Two years probably. Well, no, one year to late that day in 1983. No, 84, 85. So this guy comes down a year and a half. Good luck. One thing real quick. We have two more video clips. Let's go see when Mike Tyson becomes the undisputed, the youngest, the youngest, heavyweight champion in history of the world. Let's go take a look at that right now. That was a way to the body of an uppercut that I had in perfectness down. This one is going to be over-abally. It's over. That's all. And we have a new era in Foxing. Go in there by a GKL and young, that's that new WBC. Anyway, check view of the world. I see my son in me this now. My little baby boy. See, you're son's how old now? He's 14. You have a daughter 16, right? Yeah. So how do you feel when you see that and what a Custom Auto Sadie after that? Well, he wasn't a lot of time. He died before he came to you. And I do, I'm sorry, from in your heart, your mind, what do you think Custom Auto is saying to you? Oh, got what he said about the fight. Yeah. You're sloppy. You're moving your head. You're swinging at one point at the time. You know, we had, listen. Listen, let me explain what kind of guy we're talking about. I had an amateur fight. And listen, man, please do, when I say this, you have to believe I'm very serious. I'm a junior. I'm an amateur fight. The national finals are knocked a guy out in eight seconds. No, no, no. And that was Custom said, if that guy was a little bit more experiencing when he hit you, you didn't move your head. You just went right through it, it powers them through it. You're from mostly it's from the tomb, without moving your head after you punch. If he was a little bit more experiencing when he hit you. And I'm scared, I can say, I have highest respect for him. You're right, because I do see that. You're right. I didn't believe that, but I said, yeah, you do, because I'm just afraid of the guy. I'm gonna go, nah, cuz nah, I'm gonna be in no way, cuz I would never talk to him. I thought I would never do. He never had to worry about me saying, you're wrong. No, that would never happen. I'll say, yeah, you're right. I'm gonna work on that. I'm gonna work on that. Michael and Michael, do you hear that? Michael and Michael, do you hear that? No, we're good. Yeah. Yes. You didn't want him to go on a rampage. He was an anger freak. You didn't want him to go on a rampage for you, so yes, yes, yes. Amen. And the power, the power of mentorship and leadership. You need it. Anyone that doesn't have one is gonna be screwed. I don't come as money he got or anything. We seem to have him to the richest guys. How they have had nobody to take care of him, and they have plenty of shit. So let's go to that then. This is, and again, thank you. This is incredible. It really is. Like the value you're adding, greatest podcasts we've done yet. Facts. Love everybody. I have a lot of famous people on. This is the best, because it's the truth. It's not just, you know, luck. And you had to work for everything. Go man to man in the arena. Oh, I'm gonna leave it. Listen, my guy was, if I went to a school dance, right? And it was getting late, and I was getting late. I'm gonna call away. I'm waiting for the cabs. I'm waiting for the cabs. I gotta stay up. Run. Run home now. I gotta shoot them. It's a dance school with the dance. And I just leave my girl and start running. That's what you gotta catch the cab. I'm not, I can't wait for the cabs. I'm serious. I gotta start running home. It's you. Just start looking nice in my grand right home. That is amazing. Okay. So, custom auto passes. What was that like for you? And how does that turn into a different era of your life? It was almost suicidal, right? I didn't want to exist anymore. I wanted to do it with him. He made this... Excuse me. He made this fucking ride exciting. He was the one who would put the push. He made it. Right? I was going to do it. I didn't want anything about being no champ. He made it exciting. I was going to do it. I didn't want anything about being no champ. I was crazy. I am prepared. From all my heart, I'm sorry. I am so sorry that happened. I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry for custom auto. I'm sorry for the world. Because what that would have looked like in the rewriting, you re-roboxing anyway. But what that journey would have looked like if custom auto was still there with you. It would be what it meant to be. He was shaking, please help. He was so proud of me too. I wasn't even proud of me. I didn't want it right now. See what? Did it's what it meant to make you do? Great meant to make you do it. He talked about it. Amen. You're a little guy. He wasn't afraid of nobody. I beg you, I told you he wasn't afraid of nobody. And the reverence and love you hear from my Tyson, that's who you should beg to be your mentor, your coach, the person who's impacting you, somebody who has the mastery of the skills, and somebody who calls this thing apart in your soul in your being. No, a little old man. For me, I'm afraid nobody's gone any nut for you. That's right. So it's okay then, like if I ask you, what happens from there when that mentorship is gone, the vacuum is created, other people come in, how do you feel about it? I feel like I'm a little bit more focused on what I'm doing. I feel like I'm a little bit more focused on what I'm doing. I feel like I'm a little bit more focused on what I'm doing. I feel like I'm a little bit more focused on what I'm doing. And writing writing writing writing writing writing writing writing writing And I didn't do it. A couple of times before I got married, I thought about it, I got a fourth, I thought about it. I even thought to a motion I never thought I could survive. You know, and I did it. I made it. You know, his training helped. Thank you. And so, um, choices people make. You know, of all these influencers online, I love there's a quote that you said recently, it was something like, I'm not going to get exact. You put out something like, oh, people can hide behind their keyboards now and be disrespectful and knock it punched in the face. Tell me about that. Tell me about we think about the world today. Think about people posing, pretending to be something they're not. You know, please. It's just that we live in a world now that, um, and listen, I'm not picking on no particular group any of it. I mean, seeing what it is. You know, um, the computer, but what's the, what's the thing we're on again? That's a cheaply tier. Whatever it is. That's the, that's the pedophile or a child rapist. That's a dream. That's a dream. Those guys are going to touch more kids than anybody does now. You know, and that's been, um, and it's been, um, I just didn't like, I'm going to like that. It gives all the bad guys all the power. You know, it's, it does. Well, if you go back and give yourself some advice after CUSPASS and talk to you yourself about it, downking, becoming a part of your life, you know, what would you tell yourself because some of this was really valuable. You made a lot of money in it. No, listen, um, I made a lot of money. That wasn't a valuable, it was more valuable than making all the money was losing it. You know, that was more valuable than having any of it, you know, because you realize that, um, that, that doesn't define you. You know, I didn't want to myself. I really like people look at me and you're Mike. We're a billion dollars in your Mike with 40 cents. You're still Mike, you know, I never treated anybody bad when I was on top of my game. I never treated anybody bad when I wasn't doing what I used to. I was always Mike. And that's just what, um, that's just what I lived on. You know, broke Mike, rich Mike, whatever my Mike. If you gave advice to somebody though, right? So you had, you had an incredible mentor that you believed cared about you and the way you wanted to cared about. Then later you had people come into your life that maybe I'm not sure, but it seemed like from things I've heard and read that you said, right? That didn't care about you. What they're mentors to their bad mentors, they're mentors to you learn some of them as well. I look at everything I experienced in life is just learning to point, learn the moment of my life. You know, something that I could even make it a crutch else, I can make it a good experience and learn from it. And what did some of those people do? You know, it seems like Cusk gave you discipline. He gave you tools, you know, and it seems like from what I've read and heard, I'm not sure, right? You could tell me if I'm right or wrong. It seems like the bad mentors gave you vices, gave you, you know, parties and a surface level. It seemed like custom auto gave it this deep level that you had purpose and other people tried to give you surface level things, you know, jewelry and cars and women and things. Like, my hearing that correctly and true. Oh, this is, this is, um, this is what some people, this is, that like me, his powers having a lot of money to Cusk powers giving money away. That's the difference between him and some people. Because we believe the more you give away the more powerful you are. That's awesome. Well, that's just how he thinks. I don't think I think I can, but that's just how he thinks. That's how he thinks. The more you get the more you give. No, awesome. And what do you think? Uh-huh. What do you think from here? What's life about for you from here? You know, what's, you know, you have a beautiful family. That's what it's all about. It can't let the people you care about and the people you care about you and your guys just love each other. That's what life is all about. You can't love the people that don't love you. Even if you love them, you can't make them love you because it's not meant to be. It's just the people with which you have not, even if they're not blood family. I saw some people and I've done it too. Well, sometimes your blood family is not doing right, so you have to make your own family in the streets on time. So, in the habits, whoever you consider your family, your life longs when, let's take the gathering and show the ethics of the world. Wow. Thank you. And let's go back then and time for that. Let's talk about, you know, some bigger problems in the world. You've seen it up close and personal. You said, coming from, you know, Brownsville and all the pain and insanity that. What in gangs? Why are gangs so attracted to kids? And is there any solution to that? And were there positive things that came out of for you being a gang? I was really never ganged. We had cruel friends. We never said we're the disser that. We just had cruel friends and we had hung together, we stole together. We did a bunch of stuff together. But what you do get from gangs are power. Normally, the guy, normally the big tough guy on the grocery corner, you go to the store, he did a pick you up. But now he knows you got 20 guys that you hang at. He hang with those 20 guys and the corner all the time. He's nothing to us, nothing to us. But high. That's just our growth. He knows you hang over all those guys that cause all that trouble to shooting people, to shooting that people. Hey, man, how you doing? He's not going to bother that guy anymore and that's a little guy. He's not going to bother them, never again. It made me, if he did, then what happened to me? If he lived through it, he'd never bother those guys again. That's just what a gang does. You only have one time to violate them. And what's the meaning of how power they give somebody to be picked on almost in their life? Incredible. Right? Powerlessness to powerful. So, is there a solution? You know, if you were there and you could do anything, tell the politicians or governors or business people, anybody who cares, is there a fix? Let's get these guys some jobs. They paid them for some jobs or something. You know, if they, but that's why, you know, listen, I'm just saying this because I know really there's some people in America just so good they don't want to work. And they don't have to be poor. They can be middle, sometimes they don't want to work. And that's why we have problems with ice because the people that are coming in here, they want to work. You know, and I know, I don't, you know, I know people don't like that. But what are you going to do with people that want to work against people that don't want to work? I know you have understood that, but I understand, I understand this too. Illegal criminals come in here killing people and murdering people too. That got, that has to stop. That's happening. That's the only thing Trump did not let him, Trump really to go loose on. He didn't let him hold. He, he's holding back from the ice to people now. You know, allowing them really to do what he really felt they should do. I mean, so strong believe it, I wish it should protect the company, this country, and keep the people I want to be in this country and make this country stronger, should be in this country. Okay, you're certainly one of those profound leaders. And so for, from here, right, my Tyson, what's the rest of this journey? I hope you're here for another hundred years in this earth. What's it? Well, I wouldn't want to be in that zone. Yeah, God, no. But what is it about from here? I mean, it's family, but it's still things that on a mission level or a professional level, you're here today. A lot with family. My family have to understand this. That we go out with some politicians religion, whatever it is, we're still family. We don't have to be enemies because we have different beliefs than what religion, a politician, we're still blood families. That's not fight. You know, that's what, that's what's going on now, Creed. The biggest, listen, I think this has probably been the biggest family disputes of the history of politics since Trump's been involved. For the family they're having disputes now. Amen. And so when we're hearing from my Tyson who's getting the ring and knocks somebody out and through the ropes, is we're hearing, let's come together. I'm hundreds of people. Let's have peace. And if he got, listen, what's the guy mind don't need to be coming to this guy? If he got one with that guy, God, what enemy do we have? He's not mad at anybody. I know in a million years, I know this guy will get them all. Not in a million years. I was there at the White House and I saw them, it was beautiful. And I think I was the place I did that would go that way. That's beautiful. So with that heart and that love, at one point you have a fight with an Olympic gold medalist, Michael Spinks. And me and my friends save up all of our money and it cost like $40 to go see in a movie theater about 20 minutes from here in Hacken, Zach, New Jersey. We got our popcorn, we got our soda, we're going to see Mike Tyson and Michael Spinks go at it. And would you give me my 40 bucks back? I was told that for a long time. So let's go see what that looks like. Oh God. Oh God. That's a good shot for the body. Nothing really heavy landing it. He's taking him. The upper cut. Body shot. Never goes. My face for the first time. That was up the floor. And fire. And spikes. And seven. And eight. That was a body shot. The trucking down. It comes Mike Tyson. He leaves the right hand. There he goes. I don't think he'll get up from it. Mike Tyson, they follow the fire. He's going to get up. He's going to get up. He's going to get up. Mike Tyson, they follow the fire. The gun is at the front. It shakes. It's relevant. And eight. He will be able to go on. It's all over. Mike Tyson. That's a lot of space. Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson. I believe it was right. It made him to the first level. I didn't even get a sip of my soda. That's really wow. I don't even know that guy. Look at that guy. Who would have. I don't even know that guy. Look at that guy. Who would have. I don't even know that guy. I don't even know that guy. Look at that guy. Who would have. Look at that guy. Who would have. How do you feel about that guy? I did that to Michael Spence. He was just a child. I was in love for the first time. I never had a really a girlfriend before. I'm 21 years old. I have a wife. You really. I probably had one or two girlfriends. I didn't even. I wasn't even experiencing women or nothing. I just wanted to be a flight. I was really a knobhead back then. I was. I was. I was. And how. How afraid of you. When you came out there, could you feel the fear of your opponent when you were getting instructions or you didn't feel that you didn't think about that? What was present? What were you thinking was in your mind as you're standing there against Michael Spence? Could you feel it? It will go into frame. I'm just being. For the building. You're the one with the building. That's not going to do anything. It's looking at each other. You know, you want to hit the guy and make something happen. It's going to go to the team. That's awesome. Could you. Could you feel the fear of your opponent at that time, like that they will be standing there? Could you feel their fear? You weren't feeling that. I can feel. You could listen, you know. Let me. I'll try to explain this. It depends on the. It's all about energy. Sometimes I go into the ring, cylinder ring, move my attitude. And the God puts his head down. And he doesn't look at me. And I go back to the corner and say, this guy's coming to fight. Sometimes I keep my hands. I'm going to just try and move my hands like you see. I could tell when the God doesn't look at me. Normally, nine times out of ten. Probably eight out of ten. He's coming to charge right at me. He's coming at me. It never fails. It never fails. It's because I see the energy. I'm giving it all. I don't give it them. It's going to go all the way and give it my best. And that's pretty scary because God is. It's kind of somebody come down here with the care. You know, anything can happen. It's nothing to lose. It's nothing to me. Come back one and no one to do anything. It's nothing to give it all out of the first round. Thank you for that. So, how many minutes do we have left? Ten. Ten. Ten. We have a 30 minutes already. We're having fun. We're having fun. We're kicking it out. So, now, I'm going to ask you some questions that, again, I promise, I promise not try to put him in the spot. We would have had to. No. OK, I love Muhammad Ali. I love Mike Tyson. Muhammad Ali and his prime, with Angela Dundee, Mike Tyson, his prime, customado, what happens? Like, what does that look like? What is that all about? So, you know, Muhammad Ali never loses those years in his career. Because we love that fight, because we love Muhammad Ali so much, even if love has stopped. I love Ali. I lived in the greatest. I live in my mind. I just think he's the greatest. He inspired me. When I first saw him, I was an institution called Sparfin in New York City. And he came there and they showed the movies. When I was in 1977, they showed the movie The Greatest. Then the movie The Lights went on, and Muhammad Ali walked in. You know, like I go to visit those kids at home. He came to visit us. I said, wow. And I wanted to be like, I want to be like, that guy. And then next time I go to the next reformatronic, some guy in the T-Squeep out about it, it was just a damn bug off of it to happen. For me to see him, I said, wow. So, what do you think that fight? Before we get into who would have won a loss, what do you think the fight would have looked like? What would it have been like? Putting your styles together? Tell us about it. That fight. This is what's different about Muhammad Ali. Other people don't see. Ali is, he's just different. It's hard to explain now. It's just hard to explain this guy, you know, because he's the kind of guy. Like, we say a guy like Lister and Lister and George, from those guys of Rochis animals, monsters, they kill anybody. But Ali handles him. Those two guys like there nothing. Those guys with children wipe the floor with them. But Ali eats them right there. And then they fight Ali. Ali is like, two sonar, he fights phages. Two sonar, anybody could win. He fights Norton. And then two sonar, nobody could know it. And the phages fight these guys for them. For them to kill them like that nothing. They fight Ali. Ali gives, they're for almost chili chiles. And Ali fights these monsters. He kills them. He knocks them out. So, styles have a lot to do with fighting. You know, the bigger and tougher you are, the more Ali kicks your ass. He's got that, not as tough as those. I think he's got a tough fight for some reason. Style's a big fight. So, how about putting your styles together? What would that have looked like? What do you think would have happened? What do you think custom motto was said would have happened? Wow. I don't know any number of the, he told me nobody in the world could beat Mama Ali out of the kit. Well, here's something, here's something I'm going to tell you. And I'm not a boxer. I was a baseball player, football player wrestler. And I'm not custom motto. And here's something I have never wanted to admit. Because Muhammad Ali was my favorite of all time. Is I truly believe, and I don't want to say this, but I truly believe you would have beat Muhammad Ali. And at that spings fight, my friends and I sat there. And they were even bigger in my tights and fans than I was. I really appreciate you. I was like, you're great and amazing. But I love Ali. So anything that was even getting near Ali's legend, I was like, no, no, no, no, no, right? So I was like, Larry Holmes, no way, he beat Muhammad Ali. When Muhammad Ali was already old, no way, no way. So when you were coming up, I was afraid that you were going to become the greatest of all time and replace Muhammad Ali. I truly believe this. I do believe you would be in Muhammad Ali. I do. That's pretty awesome. I really appreciate that. But me, when I look at Ali, I think of the guys he'd be in. They're kind of men that he beat. The personality they are. They listen. So as they come off the airport, the bus station, they see a cop. A cop. Just during racists time, late late 50s, early 60s. He says a cop. He goes right at the what? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. They killed blacks for so much less than that back then. And Ali beat these guys like they had nothing to talk about. The mother talked about screwing, the sister, the mother-like fight. No, listen, you think I'm playing. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Ali was fighting for him, right? And the now the ones that talk to the referee, what was going on in the clinches with him and the phone. And they're like, oh my god, I can't say what he was saying. Oh, you can't believe what he was saying about the guy's sister. And his mother, the referee was saying he was just saying this, I can't say what he was saying. I can't believe he said it. And he said, I can't believe he had time to say that while he's fighting. Ali will talk about your mother, your sister, that's a sexist. Why he's fighting? Why he's fighting is talking about all this crazy stuff. Ali wasn't a normal guy, man. He was somewhere wrong with him. Ali was fighting a righteous guy like killer. And you talk about his mother and his sister doing things. Oh god. Good Joe Faisal, did you hear this man? This man is crazy. He's talking to his mother. No one tell you how do you talk about a guy's mother? Joe Faisal, they can totally out of their mind. How did he have chance to talk about fighting? They talk about their mother and his sister's God. So what I'm hearing, Mike Tyson say is that the reason Muhammad Ali was the greatest or may have been the greatest, who knows what would have happened with Mike Tyson, that the lost at customado, who is in arguably people say that you Ali are the two greatest heavily-ditzable time. Which is interesting because Rocky Marcella was undefeated, who is in different times, in different place. But what I'm hearing you say is that the reason, one of the reasons Muhammad Ali was so great and so successful is because his influencing skills, his ability to control people's minds when they fought like the rope of the open's that year. Absolutely. Tell us about that. No, he just gave people hope that he beat the greatest odd. That's what was big about Ali. The name I think was going to lose, the list in the monster, and then after that, the list in Prodejay, another for Roche's vicious, scary monster, then he beats them right then not. The people of worry, people of writing letters, please don't fight them, don't fight them, then he beats these people. And people, his Joe Faisal had beaten Ali after he came out of his, his great work thing. And then, for him, destroyed his Faisal, right? And he was well. And he was well. And then those both got, they both beat the shit out Ali. And then, they only took out the beat for Ali. That's got you if it's oblivious though. Incredible. Well, I mean, how amazing is it in honor to talk to Mike Tyson about Muhammad Ali in these fights? Like, this is a dream of mine. So thank you for that as well. In our final couple of minutes, you know, Mike, the, we do for fun. I mean, your family know you love pigeons that I knew somebody who knew you at one point. I think you had a hawk. Is that right? At one point you had a hawk that you put in the desert, right? I was on the phone one time with someone who's on the phone with you when you were out with your hawk and the desert. And that was a, you know, a fun special moment. I was like, listen in as you were doing that. But what's fun for you now? I know you love animals. I know you love kids. You love charity. I can't believe I'm this way. It's my wife and my kids. You know, it's a trip. And I mean, all of you, all of you, all of you, all of you, all of you, all of you, came. And I know we have a different belief since of their adult, but we always support each other. We're always family together. And some of them don't give a mom, but I know they fight together for each other. We're just family, you know. And sometimes I got one to my friends. One of them is like being my, my siblings, being my daughter. So I'm like, that pain and an neck of some, that pressure. I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is. I have not this, like, movies. So I know you said you love cartoons. I know you love the Rocky movie. I know you love Bruce Lee. Any other thing. So I know you love Rocky, Bruce Lee. Any other cartoons, things like what are movies, heroes, stories that you like to watch or... Wow. Yeah. I love the, I like the jet-leaf movies and all that stuff. The Sunday movies are a Kung Fu theater and all that stuff. Well, they kid. That's pretty much inspiration of stuff. Mostly they fight. They're not fighting another clan, they're fighting the Japanese. And it's all about sacrifice. You're stronger than me. You can, you can, the people that follow you. So let me sacrifice my life and you come back and avenge me. You know, in America, you say, I'm gonna sacrifice myself and you avenge me. You say, yeah, go sacrifice. As soon as you die, boom, the hell would you take all the money for yourself. But those guys, they just gave you dignity and pride. And all the black kids wouldn't think about that. That was the core of the gang, the gang theory too. We all stick together as one. The Chinese movies, that's what that was all about. We stick with our clan and we avenge each other. Thank you. Like I'm hearing respect, honor, leadership. And so if maybe we begin to draw their clothes with this. Do you think about being remembered? Some people, I don't care about that. Some people do, do you care about being remembered? And if so, what do you want to be remembered for? Not that much, but if I have to be remembered for someone, I never fucking nobody over, it didn't have a coming to them. Me too. That's why, yeah, that's what I want to be known as well. And then, I want to thank you for the honor of coming here today, the trust. I thought this was going to be amazing and masterful. It blew my mind. It was a hundred experts swear to God. Do I say what I don't mean? No, no. I do. Did you talk to my wife? I will. Did you never talk to her? I will. If you can talk to Bella, I'll talk to your wife. I'll talk to her. She had all the night, I thought she had all the night and she knew everything about you. And you never talked to her. I didn't. Well, I thought you talked to her before we got this going on. I would be honored. No, she knew everything about you, that's why. No, thank you. That's why I thought you were told. And so that's interesting. Thank you. And what I'd love you to know is we close. Is I think that people chase their own things. What custom on it I'll taught you is what I was taught by incredible high school coaches, leaders. People told me I could never be a division one athlete and baseball player. I was captain of my team. I was going to go on and play professionally if it wasn't for a known blind. And I channeled it into the business and the things we do. And what I would love you to know about me as we close is that there's, and the world, Mr. Tyson, is that there's people out there who really do care what custom motto did. And I'm one of those people. And my life, my stand is for people to unlock their greatness. And what you have done for me today is priceless because here's what it is. I back off sometimes, but what custom motto didn't. And I give space to people in ways I shouldn't because I don't want them to feel bad. They mad at me. And that's not what custom motto did for you. It's not what my coaches did for me because Mr. Mike Tyson, you blessed me on a Saturday morning with coming to this space. You've made me a better leader. You remind me of the truth. And I am going to be a 100x more powerful, more effective leader than I was walking that door. I was doing pretty good before, but you've made me better. And so it's custom motto. And it's been honor and privilege, Mr. Mike Tyson. I can't believe my wife hasn't talked to me. She told me that she was talking about today. She's million talk to you and everything. Thank you. Thank you. Any final things that you like to share today? I'm just happy that I came here. It's really happy I came. Thank you. God bless you, sir. Thank you for my brother. No, no. Mr. Mike Tyson, everybody, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.