#4659 We've All Got Our Own Tissues

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Brock will seem like some old cattle. All right. Hello. Good morning and welcome everyone to a Monday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Coming to you on this blessed Monday from Los Angeles, California, where the sun is shining and the world is happy. Well, at least the world that I tend to travel in because the Seattle Seahawks managed to win the Super Bowl yesterday. And I, for one, am pretty excited about it. I'm also pretty excited that the Best Buy in Culver City was open this morning when I landed because I did something I never do. I forgot my audio equipment back in Portland this morning. And so I had to go to the Best Buy at the Westfield Mall and buy this little temporary microphone that I am using right now. That means I don't have any audio drops to play for the next couple of shows, but we're going to get through it together here on episode 4,659. We're going to get through it with the help of this guy. He's the longest running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke. Not to be cliche on this Monday after the Super Bowl, but may I begin with the observation that tissue boxes have gotten a lot worse in recent years. Have you noticed this? Is it just me? I mean, you're doing the exact same thing every other morning radio show is doing the day after the Super Bowl, which is opening with a conversation about tissue boxes. I think we talked about this. I know. I'm sorry. It is so embarrassing. It's literally on the nose, Andrew, or sometimes in the nose. That actually is a conversation I want to have at some point, and something did just happen that reminded me to bring it up. But obviously, if you insist, we can hold that hacky conversation for another day. Well, let's just take a moment with it, though. What is going on with tissue boxes? Well, can I ask you, what is your relationship with tissue boxes? Do you have a lot of them? You don't use tissue? Do you use hankies? Yes. No. I think that the idea of hankies is so upsetting to me. I mean, I know you wash them and stuff, but there's a period of time between when a hanky has been used and when it's being washed, and that period of time is, again, is troubling for me to even consider. So here's what I do. You're kind of a power user of tissues, and so I think you think about them, you buy them, You have opinions on the current box technology. I just usually have some fast food napkins. I've got some taco time napkins stuffed into the door of my car. Yes, yes, I know that move. And that's pretty much what I don't spend any money on a product that is specifically designed for me to blow my nose into. I just figure I'll call it a loss leader for taco time. Well, observant listeners might have noticed that on Thursday's show while I was recording with you from the college campus of the University of Washington, I was not using traditional Kleenex tissues. I was using a bunch of Chipotle napkins that I still had in my pocket from the day before. Which, by the way, don't work particularly well. Like napkins, in fact, this happened to me on the flight down here today. I had a napkin, you know, like, yeah, I guess it's a napkin they gave me. And my nose was a little runny and I went to wipe it. And it wasn't a very pleasant experience because that's not what they're really designed for. No. And we grew up with tissue boxes that were either they were like kind of the puffs kind, but they were like a big brick, right? They were like a brick that was laying on its side. And then either the puffs kind, you would pull a big wedge, a cardboard wedge out of it sort of. And that was the opening. And you could sort of see the cross section of tissues. And again, happy Super Bowl Monday, everybody. And that worked pretty well. As an adult myself, I didn't have that puffs money. By the way, this conversation may be relevant to Drake May. That is true. I'm not trying to troll. No, I'm not trying to troll Pats fans either. I really am not. I had a friend of mine who's a Pats fan text me today and say, don't gloat. I said, good morning to you too. Is this somebody that you're in touch with on the somewhat rig or somebody you haven't heard from in a long time? It's somebody I know from LA who I have, who I don't have a super regular contact with, but it's one of those things where they're a Pats fan. I'm a Seahawks fan so when this sort of thing happens but it was a weird, not a weird but it was like I wasn't planning on gloating but now I might have to just a little bit because you opened with a don't gloat instead of a, and what I said was how about congratulations on your team winning the Super Bowl, but that's just not the Patriot way Andrew. No, it is not I was behind a car before the Super Bowl on Sunday I was actually sitting at a stoplight you know it well Luke I was on Meridian about to take a left onto Northgate Way. There is a Shell gas station right there to your left. You are Kitty Corner. I love the phrase Kitty Corner. You are Kitty Corner from that 7-Eleven and Teriyaki joint, a little shopping area. And the car in front of me, I noticed, so to my left in the gas station parking lot is a big tent, and they're selling all kinds of, it's a big tent, they're selling all kinds of Seahawks garb. And by the way, not one Darnold jersey, like nothing but JSN jerseys at this like kind of bootleg stand. And the car in front of me was literally a Patriot. And I had a thought, you're going to drive that on Super Bowl Sunday? A Jeep Patriot. Is that a Jeep? In my town? Yeah. That's elite level trolling. I was shocked, by the way. We'll get back to tissue boxes. Yeah, I do need to finish it now that I've started. I was shocked at how many people, I mean pleasantly shocked, at how many people I saw wearing Seahawks gear. Now granted, I was flying from Portland, which is kind of close to Seattle, but I saw so many people in full Seahawks gear on the airplane. And then in LAX this morning, there was just a lot of people in Seahawks gear. And, you know, the last time we won the Super Bowl, well, it was a long time ago and it was against the Broncos, but I was just living in Seattle. And so I didn't have this kind of unique experience of like being out in the world. And in fact, in a place I don't even live the next morning and kind of feeling this excitement. I got into the Uber and he was listening to the wave. That's the radio station. And and she was talking about the Seahawks and congratulations. They beat the Pats. It all felt like slightly surreal to me to have the whole nation forced to acknowledge that the Seattle Seahawks are for right now the best team in football. I'm having sort of the opposite feeling because this is the first time that I've been in Seattle for a Seattle Super Bowl. You were down here last time. I was in L.A. for both the 2013 win and that heartbreaking 2014 loss. So I'm sort of like excited. Like I've been harboring some thoughts that I'm sure I will dismiss handily. But like, could I go to the parade on Wednesday? Should I? Would that be good content? Should I report live? We'll talk more about that in a second. But we've got to start where people want us to start, Luke. Tissue boxes. Tissue boxes. So when I was growing up, you had puffs, and they were kind of in a bigger box, but like a brick on its side, if you can picture that. But then also the standard were like Kleenex boxes that were like kind of that same shape but maybe shallower. And the tissue stuck out the top, right? And you have that folding technology. You pull one, you pull one, you pull one. Like kind of a rectangle or something. Yeah, and every time you pull one, another one pops out right after. In fact, the technology got so sweet that at some point they started coloring the last 10 to 20 tissues in the box to give you a heads up that the tissue box is running low. Very smart. Very good in marketing and also handy as a user. Now I feel like the standard is, and this is my question and this is what I want people to call in on. We're taking calls live. 206-414-TBTL. TBTL. When I say live, I mean you will get the voicemail machine. but I'll weigh in now we get the cubes and I am just now realizing something as I'm looking at this box I'm holding so we now get the cubes where the tissues are folded up differently inside you know it's like these are the types of tissues that might be on the back of your aunt's toilet maybe you might build like a tissue cozy for it or something you would knit something like that you know what I'm talking about? I made one of those by the way in grade school you get like these it's a little like a grid a plastic grid and then you use yarn and a very, very dull needle and you loop the yarn through the grid and then you connect up four more and then a bottom and then a top and it's a tissue thing. Is that crocheting? I don't think it's crocheting because I think crocheting is when you're tying a specific kind of knot. Oh, okay, yeah. But it was, we would make all of this just absolute crap. And then we would sell it to poor unsuspecting parents. Actually, I believe they suspected that this was total crap. Poor suspecting parents. Poor suspecting parents who were strong-armed into buying this crapola so that we could have money to go to Camp Casey. It was the end of the year big reward. We would go to Camp Casey and to help pay for it, we would make all this stuff on Fridays during crafts and then we'd have a big bazaar and we would sell it all, again, to our parents. Yeah, people who were forced to buy it. People who were forced. People who were very suspected. It's kind of like insurance. anyway um these cube tissue boxes right yeah you pull the tissues out the top and that technology is still supposed to work where it feeds another tissue into the chute right and it does for a while but what i've been noticing and it's been a slow burn on me for years until i'm finally speaking up about it i'm realizing about i don't know a quarter of the way into the box it just stops feeding the next one it's like they're folding up the tissues differently inside i've almost accidentally thrown away the bottom half of tissue boxes because it's not feeding the next one through the hole and you think it's empty but it's like no you have to like dig in there and reconstruct it again and get in feed another one through and then it's going to happen again in another week or so and i am now just realizing because i don't you said that i buy the tissues in the house, or you alluded to that or something, or you implied that. I don't. Genevieve does. It's one of her big Costco purchases. And I'm wondering if this, because I'm looking at the bottom of it, and I do not, on this You're not a Costco man. The holiest of days for the Pacific Northwest. I am not going to go into one of, I'm not going to lean in on one of its favorite brands, but I do notice these are Kirkland Signature Facial Tissues. And I am wondering if there's a difference between the Kirkland brand and the original Kleenex brand as far as quality control all the way down when it comes to folding these tissues. Yeah, they need to step up their folding game. It sounds like they have some in-tissue sort of issues where it becomes detached. Is it possible that they're doing this in some way to save the whales? They're going to claim that it's like, well, we're putting a governor on your usage. Yeah, just something where they're like, you know, we take the environment very seriously. And that's why we're making your experience as a consumer worse. And we haven't figured out how it's related to that yet. But we're going to use that as as an excuse. And also we may are we still throwing things on the pandemic? Yeah. Are we still blaming the pandemic for things that just are manifestly worse than they used to be? Well, I was signing up for something the other day, which I've been wanting to talk to you about. We have plenty of time to talk about it. We won't get sidelined with it now because it's still like over a month away. But I was signing me and Genevieve and a group of friends up for an escape room adventure for Genevieve's birthday. And I noticed that when you get to like the checkout page, it's still telling you what the COVID-19, the novel coronavirus rules are and about masking and stuff. And they basically said, you know, it's just boilerplate now that says, you know, it's still we still recommend it or something. But I don't think anybody I don't know how many websites still know that this is on some of their checkout pages. Totally. Yeah, it's probably just because they haven't checked out of their own website. They haven't rented out their own escape room in a while. And so how would they know unless you tell them? Boy, we could do a whole show on the fact that you are going to an escape room. We will. We have time, though. Maybe as we get closer to that. Let's talk a little bit about our experience yesterday and the watching of the game. Did you end up at the Eagles? Was that the place where you landed? Yeah, I did. And I got to say, I'm not super proud of myself. When I got there, I groused to Genevieve and Kamarakev both separately. And I regret this. I woke up regretting this, kind of saying a little bit like, oh, I should have stayed home. Because when we showed up at the Eagles, we were watching up in that upstairs area that you know. You've watched the game with us up there, too. So the TV is like projected or the program is like projected on a big screen, you know, a projector that hangs from the ceiling. and the sound up there is not great and I knew it wouldn't be. There's something where it's like they also have TVs down in the little bar area but if you have both sound systems on at the same time there's a slight delay. I don't know if you've experienced this so it becomes very echoey and strange. So you have to like turn off the sound in the big room where we're watching on the projector and then blast the audio from the other room. And so I was really concerned about number one not being able to follow the commercials which are really important because Vives and I are going to do an epically long, I'm sure, after these messages today about the Super Bowl commercials. And usually I would be at home taking notes and watching with my ear to every detail on these commercials. And I'm like, this time I'm just going to have to do my research later because I'm not going to be able to hear these damn things. But also I like football, but I'm not that smart about football. I like the TV product. Even the worst NFL TV product, I like it. I like hearing what the announcers have to say. I like them explaining things to me. I like sometimes them telling me how to feel. And I was sitting there, and the projector was having issues when we showed up. It had these vertical lines up and down. Yeah, yeah. And you could see through. They weren't thick lines. They were incredibly thin. But it was like watching through. And they were fairly spaced apart. But let's say you're looking at a TV-shaped projection onto a screen. and there like 25 tiny little lines going up and down equidistant like you watching through a cheese grater or something not a cheese grater but i don know something that like wires were like through the screen and you could see what was going on but i'm like i can't quite see the game i can't hear shit and i just sort of was like i think i made the wrong move here but our whole gang was there i don't know if you know this your brother joined us again and it was like this whole i heard he was coming down yeah yeah and so but it was like this whole gang that we watched like the last few games in the same exact room the projector wasn't having the issues but this time i was like i don't know i made the wrong choice but then very quickly i got into the swing of things the projector corrected itself i have no idea how or why but the projector ended up being a clean visual uh for the whole game by the time the game started and you know i watched the commercials by just like trying and genevieve was taking notes and we were just saying okay we got to go back and watch this one and listen to this one later and kind of picking up on what the room was trying to pick up on. But at the end of the day, I think I'm glad that I wasn't sitting home alone in my basement celebrating the Seahawks Super Bowl victory while all of my friends were somewhere else. So I definitely made the right choice. And I feel bad for being a little bit grousy when I first got there. I, you know, went to this watch party, the Super Bowl watching party that I've been going to for probably the last four or five years. It's Becca's brother and his wife, and they put on this whole thing, and there's an incredible spread of food and drinks that they put out. They're great hosts. And what I had talked about last week was I came up with this whole plan, which was to set up, Becca's mom is a painter, and she has this beautiful art studio that's in this barn that's on the property as well. And so I was going to bring down my laptop, and I actually bought a projector for this so that I could project in the art studio. And Jeff was nice enough to make sure that the old Wi-Fi was working up there and everything. So when we got to the place, we didn't even go to the Super Bowl party. We went to the barn for me to set up my projector and everything. And without getting too into the weeds on this, there was the craziest, I don't know what you would call it rights issue related to the projector andrew not wanting to let me play my youtube live account so i pay like 100 bucks a month for youtube live and that's where i get all my sports and my chris hayes and everything and it was playing on my laptop just fine right yeah and then when i would plug my laptop i'd use the dongle and i would plug my laptop into the projector it would start playing for about 30 seconds and then it would just the screen would go black and it was only doing that with the Super Bowl, with the pregame of the Super Bowl. It was the strangest thing. And now the projector itself was also Wi-Fi enabled. So I went through the insanely laborious process. The projector is Wi-Fi enabled, but it doesn't have a keyboard associated with it or anything. So it has this very janky remote control that you have to like try to get to a browser and then do all this like trying to move this cursor That's very kind of kludgy to like each letter of my name, the how I log into like YouTube TV. And I did this whole Rebecca has the patience of Job. Just wait, was Job patient? Job had a lot going on. I think we say we say that. But I mean, honestly, the whole knock on Job was impatient. Right. I mean, Job was considered to be haughty. And, you know, Job thought that thought he was all that and a bag of chips. And then God decided to just absolutely ruin his life. Oh, see, I didn't realize that he starts off haughty. I thought he just started as like a normal, even quasi humble guy. But God just kept piling shit on him. Maybe that's true. I trust your knowledge of Bible stories way more than mine. It's been a while since I've played in the Job space. But the thing about it was, I believe that regardless of what he's doing before God really kind of like ruins his life, The whole thing is that Job is really bummed about this. He's like, God, what are you doing to me? And I think God is like, you just got to wait this one out. You got to be patient. And then he eventually is, and I think things go back to normal for him. But the patience of Job sounds like Job's overriding characteristic was always patience, and I feel like it wasn't. That was what God needed to teach him. Well, anyway, Becca was very patient as I like was logging into the Hisense projector system, my YouTube TV account. It took conservatively 20 minutes for me to do this. I finally, I couldn't remember my password, obviously. So I finally get this thing logged in and into the, so my computer is not even attached to the projector now. It's just the projector, which is talking to the internet and is supposed to be talking to my YouTube TV account. And I click play on the football game there, and it says, basically, an error has occurred. We can't play this. I was like, how does it? First of all, I'm allowed to play this. I pay for this YouTube TV. This is content that I am allowed to have. But anyway, so that was kind of annoying. So, I mean, you're in... I'm in your world, Grandma Ma. I cannot believe that we've been spending so much time talking about tissues. Why are you even brought that up? Now digital rights management. But wait, so is this a theory that you have or have you looked it up? Do you know that it was a digital rights management thing and not something with like video? You were playing other YouTube videos. You were playing just random YouTube videos and it was fine. It was when you switched over to the Super Bowl that it shut everything down. that was what appeared to be happening and i did not look it up but the reason i think it's a rights management issue is because scott and jeff becca's brothers came up to kind of hang out and help me troubleshoot it and they both have a lot of av experience scott owns a bar and he has he was telling yeah he's got similar problems like with stuff that he'll be trying to play on the tvs or trying to play through the sound system and it'll just get weird jeff's theory was it had to do with the HDMI cable that maybe what it thought was, is this HDMI cable, what is this going to, and are you in a bar and are you playing something? Are you projecting something in an area where you're supposed to be paying money for the rights to project this? Because if you're in a bar, you're probably not allowed to play the Super Bowl. Is that true? You're not allowed to, but you have to pay rights. In the same way, the baseball games, I know Teddy's, the bar where I like to go to watch baseball games. They have to pay more than just a usual cable subscription in order to play certain sports, right? Because they're making money off of it by bringing people in with the televisions and the sports and then selling drinks. So I understand that. But it's usually not up to the technology because, I mean, what if you did get the rights? What if you are paying root sports or whatever for this special privilege? Like, that's why I'm a little bit shocked. But you were playing other things on YouTube TV. I was able to play other things and when I would get the game going on my laptop then I would plug in the HDMI cable and then it would be playing through the projector and then it would black out after like about 30 seconds always. And it would black out on both the projector and the screen on your computer or maybe did the projector take over the screen on your computer and you didn't That part I don't remember exactly but this happened three or four times. All this is to say I was all excited to set up my viewing layer and it didn't quite go as I planned, but it was fine because the game itself was the way that I really hoped it would be for me, which is not overly stressful. The Seahawks were as I sort of expected them to be. By the way, that was a whole other crazy thing. I woke up Sunday morning and I thought, what is this feeling I'm experiencing right now? Less fear? Confidence? Like, I didn't know how I kept thinking that's got to be a jinx. How dare I think that the Seahawks are probably the better team on paper and are probably going to win fairly handily. That was my feeling going in. I was like, this feels wrong. I should not feel this way. And this is going to ruin it. But I couldn't shake the feeling. It was like I couldn't shake the confidence, Andrew, that that we were just on paper. And that's not a knock on the Patriots. I think the Patriots have a bright future and think they're going to be back at the Super Bowl. I just thought that if you lined the two teams up, the Seahawks looked like the better team this year. And yet I kept thinking, well, I'm officially ruining it. I'm officially jinxing the live and tweedle out of this. But yeah, the actual, like the game itself, the Seahawks led throughout and really were so dominant on defense that I was able to watch the game at the Super Bowl party and not like completely lose my mind because we had it pretty, pretty well handled. There weren't any big controversial calls. If anything, we benefited from a lack of a call or two. Like there was a point where one of our guys, I think it was Josh Jobe, like clearly punched a Patriot and they didn't throw a flag on it. And it was like, he should have been kicked out of the game for it. And he wasn't. So point is there weren't these triggering moments for me that will send me into an emotional tailspin because if that would have happened and I'm around normal people, that would have been a bad scene. I will say this. if the Seahawks make it back to the Super Bowl and I am going back to this party, which was, by the way, the thing that Jeff did that was really smart, Jeff is, like I said, he's an AV guy. He had the sound so dialed in and so loud on the TV. So he has a whole kind of cool home stereo system with, you know, subwoofers and things like that. So the sound was crisp. It was clear and it was plenty loud so that you could listen to the commercials. You could hear what the announcers are saying. You know, you didn't have to like, I could see going to a Super Bowl party where they've got the sound kind of low because they're like we can see what's happening in the game people want to talk jeff was like jeff understood the assignment and maybe it was darcy's call i don't know they understood the assignment which is i need to be able to hear what chris collinsworth is saying even if it makes me angry how many people are at this party a lot a lot to vary i want to say 30 or 40 okay yeah so it's well attended i'm glad it's well attended but i'm glad you were able to hear everything that's nice and what that's big what did you um it was pretty chaotic where i was which is again kind of one of the reasons why and again it was fun if i wasn't so worried about the commercials i don't think i would have even been in my head as much about it i'll probably end up re-watching the game anyway i like to do i already did this morning i'm not surprised like i'll probably like to watch it and actually go back and listen and hear because i have no you know i didn't hear i didn't hear one iota of commentary or anything like that so it's just kind of a different experience like it's like you can watch football or you can watch football with your friends it's a little bit uh it's a little bit of a choice but all of that is to say i like that they emphasized the sound so what did you not to get too far ahead of ourselves but like i was not for the most part able to take advantage of those moments where like everybody in a room reacted to one of the commercials more than the other we had a couple of micro events like that but nothing big like were there moments where like the room just all shut up because everybody was engrossed with one of these commercials? I would say the only one that really broke through that I noticed was the Jorgen Lanthimos Emma Stone one. Jorgos, yeah, Lanthimos, yeah. Jorgos. Yeah, for Squarespace, I want to say. Or Jorgos? That was the Squarespace one. Yeah, for Squarespace. She can't get the domain for her name. I thought it was pretty good. I thought it was really good, but have you seen the long version? No, I haven't. I only saw a teaser for it last week, which is like 10 seconds of her crying. with his crazy music playing. And then I saw the one that aired during the Super Bowl, which, you know, you didn't really need to hear that well. You could just hear the music. But I only saw what aired. So I saw a, and for folks that haven't seen it, it's, you know, this is the guy that made Begonia and The Favorite and Kinds of Kindness and a lot of, like, real out-there projects. And it's this kind of, like, castle type of, like, very dark building, you know, stone building on an island in the middle of like a kind of a stormy ocean. And the idea is Emma Stone is just in this like weird castle freaking out because Emma Stone.com has already taken the domain name and she keeps typing it in and then she's destroying the laptops after she realizes once again that she cannot get Emma Stone.com. She's throwing the laptops into a fire. She's breaking them. The long version I saw, there is a woman whose face we never see who keeps rollerblading in replacement laptops. Oh, I love that. it's the best part of the commercial and the fact that when they cut it short it didn't include her they should have figured out a way to at least because in the longer version there's you see her and she's always like in a nun's frock kind of outfit like but you just see the shot of her rollerblading down the hall with another laptop and then when she brings like the second or third laptop to emma stone emma stone says something like oh my god thank you you're divine see this They neutered the Yorgos. They picked the, I think they basically picked the wrong parts of the commercial to take out for time, at least for my sensibilities. Because I thought, but my point is that commercial was kind of smart because it was so over the top. It was so crazy that it did kind of get everyone's attention. But then I was also running, I was, you know, I was snacking. I was in a lot of different conversations. This is what I was going to say really quickly, though. if the Seahawks make it back into the Super Bowl in the next few years, which I'm hoping they do, I think there are some reasons to believe that is possible. I am going to have to have my viewing station really dialed in because I was able to get through this because the Seahawks were kind of winning the whole time. But if it were a close game or if it were, or if we were like playing terribly, or if there was bad, what I think of as bad calls going against us, I would have had to get the living heck out of there because so many people were talking to me about so many things that are not football related. Like, you know what I mean? Like it was a great fun party for people that are mildly interested in the Super Bowl. But like I was, again, I was able to handle it and not have my alternate viewing station working because the game was never in question. But if we get back into it and we're going against, let's just say a fourth year of Drake May or, you know, the Buffalo Bills or I don't know, just a team that's going to really, really give us a run for our money. I'm not going to be able to be standing there. talking about unrelated topics to people I vaguely know. Yeah, I could see that totally as well. I had weird emotions going into this game because, as we had discussed, I was watching as much as I could of the Seahawks early on in the season, but I wasn't prioritizing it the way I had in the past and sort of taking a little bit of an emotional step back from the team. And then I really got into it during the playoffs because, and this is something that I really, I realized something about myself, no joke kind of yesterday I think I was creeping up and then today when I was thinking about my feelings about the Super Bowl and about the games that got us to the Super Bowl like I was so much more in a certain way I guess bad feelings like anxious and on edge about the games versus the Rams and even the final game against the 49ers and first of all those were just better and scarier matchups for us but i realized well i'm way more into those now being into something means i'm clutching my stomach and growling at people so is that it's like a couple of things it's a double whammy of self-realization um one of which is like i guess i like my sports like i like my coffee just painful and secondly i think that going into this game against a team that i don't harbor any ill will against i mean we would have ironically because it's like the patriots and that terrible end of the super bowl in 2014 i know that there's like this sort of narrative about like now we can get our comeuppance but like that just feels like a different team i mean it's still the same colors and it's still the same logo and everything but it's a different team like it's just there's none of that dna anymore and and well there's robert craft i mean there's robert craft there's the owner by the way yes obviously did i just very quick interjection if i can to bring this maybe out of the sports world and into the just elite level trolling world well let me just finish my thought though so because i don't think we'll get back to it so like what i realized about myself today was that when i don't and maybe i should have had more sports hate for the patriots but for whatever reason i didn't and it seemed like you know like you said on paper it wasn't going be a particularly close game. So I wasn't like really worried about losing. And also I just didn't have hate in my heart. And it occurred to me like yesterday, I think the, one of the only things I kind of texted you was like, in all caps after the win, like show Sean McVay's face right now that, you know, a coach who wasn't even in the game, but it's cause like, I hate the Rams now, you know, and the 49ers I have lingering hate for and their division rivals. And so I think my Second part of my realization was, which I really don't like this about myself, is like, well, it's better when you really hate the team. And maybe I'm just more of a hater than a fan. So anyway, I'm sorry to cut you off, but I just wanted to finish that thought. Well, the other thing is you are almost best friends with Mike Vrabel. I saw your online activity That a great photo If you haven seen it go check blue ski uh where he has side photos of him and the patriots head coach mike vrabel at walsh high in their football uniforms and just one season apart yes i think i might have lied i think it might have been a couple is we're like three or four years apart but um it is amazing like we're posed we're both wearing the same exact walsh jesuit uniform um but you could not see a picture of two very, very, very different people. Some guy, by the way, totally coincidentally on Super Bowl Sunday, I had posted that on Friday night or something, I started following some guy who's like an ESPN editor or something on Sunday morning. Then he started following me back and then he retweeted it. So suddenly that started to get a lot of juice. Not tons, like 100 or something like that, but by my blue sky standards, that started to get a lot of juice leading up to the Super Bowl, which was truly my Super Bowl. What were you going to say about crap? The way you constructed the blue sky post was also great because you basically said, what did you say exactly? So I posted this photo of him in his football uniform posing and this photo of me in my football uniform posing. But I look like, as I told somebody last night, the only thing I hated more than football at this time was having my picture taken. And so you see me in this jersey that somebody, some stinky jersey they probably pulled out of the laundry bin moments before the photo and threw it on me because I didn't even have a number or a position. And my face, my pudgy little face looks like I want to both kill somebody and cry at the same time. And then the Mike Vrabel one is he's like this just very athletic looking, very, I don't know if handsome is the right word, but a very athletic, in shape, bold, and very confident and not menacing looking, just like a huge smile on his face. Young man, probably of 16 or 17 years old, but just like the epitome of health and confidence and levity in a certain way. And I just, and I saw, I think I posted like, can you try to guess which one of these guys is me? But like the way, what you can look into the faces of those two children and see such a different way of navigating the world. And I think, honestly, it's played out exactly the way we all expected. He was coaching in the Super Bowl and you and I are podcasting. Exactly, exactly. But so so Bob Craft, the owner of the New England Patriots, got in trouble for going to a massage parlor. And, you know, I don't know if he actually received a sexual favor or if he just requested it, because my guess would be it was a sting operation in like Jupiter, Florida. And my sense of those things is that probably the way that they would catch somebody would be there would be like an undercover agent or something. I don't know how it works, but he got in trouble for doing this. And Bill Belichick's, I guess, girlfriend, I don't think that they're engaged or married or anything, Jordan Hudson, who's gotten a lot of attention in the last six months. The other day was at a UNC basketball game with Bill Belichick, and she's wearing a T-shirt. And the T-shirt is of the massage parlor that where Bob Kraft got arrested for requesting a sexual favor. and that is, I have to say, an elite level of trolling. It was pretty amazing. I know. I saw that, too. And that's, like, I find her to be kind of a lot, but that's pretty, that's pretty, pretty good. Because it wasn't like, my understanding, because it was a little, the photos I saw were a little bit hard to see, but it wasn't like some sort of meme that she had made that was, like, asking me about the craft special or some stupid, it was just, like, big, I think it was a sweatshirt, right? a big circle logo on the front of her sweatshirt, maybe T-shirt. That was just the logo of the company, right? Yes, but my guess is she had to print this out. Yes, I'm sure. I don't think that anyone was thinking. I mean, again, it's like if you were sort of an anti-Patriots person, Patriots team that is, that would be like a very kind of funny way, I guess, to troll the team and to troll the ownership. I don't think anyone had thought of that before she did. I don't think that was something you could buy on the internet. Maybe it was, maybe I missed the bulletin on that. But, um, but anyway, that was just, I was like, wow, you just got to kind of like, you got to take your cap off on that one and go, uh, you are ruining Bill Belichick's career life and legacy, but man, that was a good, that was a good one. Uh, but, um, anyway, so back, sorry, but just back to the watching of it. I enjoyed it. And I certainly very much enjoyed the warm hospitality of Becca's family. And that's actually kind of the most fun part for me is getting to see all of them. I mean, not more fun than watching the Superbowl, but I do like getting to see them. I don't get to see them enough. So that part was all great. But what I learned when my takeaway from the event was next year or in the future years, I'm going to need, I'm going to need an escape hatch because again, I've said it now four different times, but this was, this was okay for me because we, it was a runaway. Um, but I'm not going to be able to be standing, talking to somebody about an unrelated topic while, you know, Sam Donald was throwing a pick six, you know, or something like that. Or, you know, again, a call is going against us. I also was a little worried that my energy was just, I mean, I was working on it. I kept checking with Becca going, am I being too loud right now? I was probably at 11 or 12. By the way, everybody was interested in the game. People were wearing Seahawks, you know, shirts and stuff. It wasn't like people were not into the game but it was just I was just sort of like a weird feral animal that was just kind of pacing in the kitchen area you know going like going like oh that's grounding that's grounding there's nobody I mean he's not outside of the tackle box that's and like no one there even cares about or knows what grounding is you know I was also constantly updating everyone on how my bets were doing which I got to tell you Andrew I was pleasantly surprised that a couple of these nutcase bets I made came through. I forgot that I had some money in my DraftKings account because I can't use it when I'm in Washington State. It's blocked. So Sunday morning, I was at Becca's and I was like, oh, this is Oregon. Let me see. I had like, you know, 50 or 60 bucks in there. So I was like, let's have some fun on some real, real silly bets. And most of them did not come through, but I had AJ Barner to score the first touchdown of the game. That's such a, I saw you texted that out. I was shocked by that because that was, I told you I've been listening to the Bill Simmons podcast the past couple of weeks, which I was, you know, I had not listened to before, but I'm kind of really getting into it. And that was his, and even though he's a big Patriots fan, that was his lock. He was just kind of like, yeah, Barner, first touch on the game, like that pays really well. Yes. And so then when you said that, because you just like put 20 bucks or something on that, it paid out pretty well, right? You got a couple hundred back, which is sweet. I'm not trying to diminish that, but I was like, are you listening to that show too? Or is this just a random thing you landed on? Because that was what his that's what his prediction was. It was just a random thing that, you know, I'm going through like the DraftKings, you know, app Sunday morning and they've got it. So I mean, and I just want to preface this by saying I think sports gambling is a extremely pernicious, potentially extremely pernicious event in the lives of a lot of people. I do think it's overall really bad for sports and again, really bad for people that get caught up in it. It's weirdly the one thing like this that I don't have a messed up relationship with. I really and truly do not think about it for months at a time. And so I like to dabble with it a little bit. But yes, I was scrolling through the app and they've got like Dave Portnoy's picks. I'm like, miss me with that. They've got so many different categories broken up of like for parlays and for like, you know, this person, you know, these people love the Patriots. And these are the like the parlays that they're putting together. So I went into the like, I love the Seahawks area of the app. and was looking at the, that some of the parlays they were, I hit a four way parlay by the way, which is I've never hit a, and I didn't make that much money on it after all that. Let me see if I can find it in my thing. And it was not a parlay that I had like, that I had, you know, pieced together. I actually don't know how to piece together my own parlay. So I just have to go off of like something that's being suggested. Um, okay. This was the four pick parlay that I had. Let's see. These were the legs of it. The Seahawks had to win by five points or more, which they did. Drake May had to throw an interception, which he did. He actually threw two. Travion Henderson had to catch at least one pass, which he did. And then the total score of the game had to be under 45.5 points. And I hit all of that. A $20 bet netted me a $145 U.S. How much did it net you? Sorry. $145 U.S. Oh, yeah. You would expect it for, yeah. Well, yeah. For all four of those paying out, you'd think it'd be better. You would think so. By the way, I immediately cashed everything that I profited over $50, I cashed out on the plane this morning. So I'm back at $50. Oh, interesting. Oh, that's interesting. I would see you as somebody who would leave it in there. I won like $500 on this game. Oh, nice. I don't need $500 because my AJ Barner bet was like $250. And then I had the Seahawks just to win, just to cover. But I don't need that. I'm not a $500 heir in my DraftKings account that will just sit there kind of languishing. So anyway, that's one of the rare examples of a gambling idea that I had that actually sort of kind of worked out. But that was the other thing that I was just, I was trying to use my bets as a way to force every conversation I was having at the party back into being a sports conversation. because there was just, you know, again, there was a range of how much people really cared about the game. But there was also just there was a few times where I could feel the conversation going in a direction that was not Nick Eamon Worry related, and I didn't have any time for those conversations. Can I move the conversation to something that I brought up a little bit ago that I actually really want your take on and I've been thinking about it the past couple of days is the Seahawks fan gear. I was in, this is going back about a month ago, maybe a month and a half ago. I had this strange sort of moment at Fred Meyer, the grocery store, Fred Meyer's, Fred Meyer, Meyer, Myers. Fred Meyer. That's one of those specific Northwest things where you don't put the S on it. Like a Nordstrom's. Right, okay. I think it's Fred Meyer. I was at Fred Meyer the other day and I hadn't been in Fred Meyer in a while. And it's a very we've talked about it a lot. It's a very big grocery store that also has a lot of home goods and its origins were actually more of a home good electronic store, etc. Now it's a big grocery store. All of that is to say, because of the mix of different products like that, I was near the checkout lanes and they had a little mini display with some Seahawks. You get some Seahawks tote bags or whatever. You could get some T-shirts. And it was the first time that I actually I think I realized like, oh, yeah, JSN, you know, our wide receiver, Jackson Smith and Jigba. It was like they were the shirts of him. And it had been so long. Most of the Seahawks like jerseys and stuff I see are still sort of holdovers from that from the era of the Legion of Boom and the Super Bowls and like the, you know, the 20 teens. And then, I mean, certainly, I mean, tons of, you know, Russell Wilson stuff back in the day. And then, you know, I mean, assuming you would see some Geno Smith jerseys, I'm not really sure. It seemed like things were static for a while. And now there's an entire village somewhere wearing Geno Smith Seahawks jerseys. Right. Well, and Raiders jerseys. And it was a poor, poor village. But anyway, so it was sort of interesting for me. I was like, oh, yeah, JSN, like that's going to be the go to person who's going to be plastered on some sort of like ill-advised design. plastered on the front of some gaudy t-shirt right and then i was mentioning to you that i actually really enjoyed seeing these pop-up stands around the city the past couple of days it made it made it feel like i was in a real city and i consider Seattle a real city so i don't even know what that means and i don't mean it as a dig but there's something a little bit la-ish about it just like yeah totally hey we're going to the super bowl it was like these little reminders maybe because again i didn't have that fire in my belly about this matchup as much as i did against the rams in the previous two matchups. And so it was sort of like, we're all just kind of cruising pleasantly into the Super Bowl, but then to see these pop-up stands outside of a train station, somebody just selling rip-off bootleg stuff, I loved it. And it kind of reminded me, get into this. There's an energy in the city right now, and you should get into it. But what I wanted to talk to you about was, who are we celebrating other than JSN on the jerseys and the fake jerseys and the t-shirts? And are we going to start seeing Darnold now? It really made me think that the city, even though we've been so excited and we had literally the best Seahawks record in history with him as our quarterback, you just don't see Darnold jerseys and T-shirts the way you would Russell Wilson, who was like sort of like, you know, kind of came up not through our system, but, you know, was signed as a rookie with us and was always a like Seattle Seahawks, you know, kind of icon and figurehead and all of those things. And like Darnold after this, are we going to start to see more Darnold stuff or is Darnold just not the kind of player at this point in his career where the Seahawks fans are going to be kind of rallying around him, at least sartorially? This is such an interesting question because of course the big narrative around Sam Darnold all year has been, and I guess really for the last couple of seasons is like, okay, he was taken, I think number three overall in the draft. everybody thought he was going to be a really good quarterback and then he was on some lousy teams and everybody thought he was a not good quarterback and now he has he has he has changed the minds of all the haters and he if he was going to win the Super Bowl that would prove that he you know is a good quarterback but he also is really dogged by two things that are the opposite of swag one is missing a game because of mononucleosis and having the graphic on the screen and instead of saying out with a hamstring injury, it literally said out with mononucleosis. I think that's the first time that's ever happened in NFL football. Out indefinitely, I think it said, in mononucleosis as he points right at the camera. Out indefinitely because he misses his mommy would be the only thing that could have created a more anti-swag situation. And then the other thing was when he said he was seeing ghosts, which, by the way, I don't think that's fair. like that became this so he was playing in a game where he was having trouble reading the defense and he was having a poor game and he said on the sideline i'm seeing ghosts out there which he was mic'd up right and i think that was that against the patriots maybe this is when he was playing for the i think it might have been against i think he was a jet at the time maybe but like everyone like that was this iconic moment i don't know i thought that's not the weirdest way to describe to like probably your quarterback coordinator your quarterback coach your offensive coordinator yeah I'm I was seeing something I thought was happening that wasn't and I threw it in the wrong place I'm seeing ghosts out there but that sort of was added to the like Sam Darnold is a mess lore and so the question is and he wasn't the MVP of the Super Bowl he game managed which was great he did not lose the game for us he had a couple of nifty plays and and critically he did not turn the ball over but like now that he won a Super Bowl I'm sort of wondering aloud with you will next year we see a lot of people in Darnold jerseys I'm predicting yes, because the quarterback is still kind of the face of the organization or a big face of the organization. I mean, I see people with Rick Meyer jerseys still like, you know, I don't think I know Rick Meyer. He was a guy that we drafted out of Notre Dame and he was supposed to be the next Joe Montana who would also come out of Notre Dame. And he was not, although I do believe he set the Seahawks rookie quarterback record for most wins, which I think was something like six. But like my point is that if you are a NFL quarterback, there is going to be a certain percentage of the population of fans that are going to buy your jersey because you're kind of one of the marquee players. And I think now having won the Super Bowl, I'm predicting we will see some Darnold, you know, some Darnold love and representation in the next season. The funny thing is, don't buy that Ken Walker jersey yet because we don't even know if he's going to still be a Seahawk. Oh, I wasn't clocking that because I was going to say, I did mean to say earlier, I would say the second, even before the Super Bowl MVP thing, I would say that the second most popular, I'm guessing here, but I feel like the second most popular jersey for a Seahawks fan is Kenneth Walker. And I did not realize, though, that his contract is up. And so, wow, yeah, he might not be a Seahawk next year. Oh, boy, that'd be tough. and that's the whole thing you know not to get too nfl about it but like there's been this kind of move in the nfl to sort of devalue running backs like people just don't pay a lot of money for running backs anymore it's kind of seen i guess as a sort of a position that as long as like you're blocking correctly and you have a good offensive scheme there's a lot of people that can have success at the position which was not always how it was it was like running backs were the heroes the walter paytons of the world these were like you know the people that i grew up idolizing but um so ken walker is the mvp of the super bowl you can't have a better thing on your resume when you coming back in to uh you know to re your contract so i don know if they going going to you know pay him the money that he probably be offered somewhere else By the way something really adorable about Ken Walker III He's the third, right? Yeah. So his dad is Ken Walker Jr.? Is that how that works? Does it go Jr.? Or is it the second and then the third? Can you skip over the second? Wait, hold on. Well, I don't know if we're talking about him in particular or generally speaking in life, because I don't know anything about him in particular. But generally speaking in life, like, yeah, I have in my family, I have a there's a Frank Walsh and a Frank Junior and a Frank the third. Oh, it goes from junior to the third. Yeah, I think so. There's not a word like the junior is second. Right. Is that what you gotcha? OK, OK. So his dad is Ken Walker Junior and his dad was at the Super Bowl. And what he said in the postgame press conference is that his dad, he's from I think Ken Walker is he played at Michigan State. I don't know if he's from Michigan, but he said basically his dad comes to Seattle for a lot of his games, but never comes to the stadium because he is really uncomfortable around crowds. Oh, interesting. So his dad had never been in the stadium for one of his pro football games because of his like aversion to being in crowds. But he went to this game because it was that important. And his son was the MVP, which I just think is the most charming thing I've ever heard. You know what I learned yesterday when they were introducing the Seahawks is that A.J. Barner, who won you a couple hundred bucks yesterday, is from Aurora, Ohio. That is literally where the fiberglass factory that I worked at was in. I lost track of that sentence. Don't anybody diagram that sentence. I just started throwing words in at the end. But you remember, like, so outside of Kent, Ohio, is a place called Aurora, Ohio, which I believe might have at one point been home to a SeaWorld, which, by the way, there should not be a SeaWorld in Aurora, Ohio. Yeah, you want to talk about it. The first sign that SeaWorld wasn't making the right decisions based on animals' well-being was that they tried to create a SeaWorld in Aurora, Ohio. I could be wrong about that, but that is where Omega Pultrusions was as well, the company where I probably did some major damage to my lungs by sandblasting fiberglass for eight hours a day. Do you know what the J in A.J. Barner stands for? Oh, I would like to know. J stands, A.J. Barner. I don't know what the A stands for. I'm going to take a guess here. It stands for Andre Jackrabbit Barner. You're pretty close. It's Albert is the A. And his middle name is Javante. Oh, really? Interesting for a white guy. Yeah. I have not met a lot of white Javantes in my life. I was quite surprised during the endless sort of weak lead-up media stuff where almost nothing interesting is ever revealed. That was an interesting one to me. I'm not saying this to argue with you, but I was just clicking around here. Now, I'm on A.J. Barner's Wikipedia page, and it says, A.J. Barner, Albert Frank Barner V, is an American professional football tight end. Is somebody messing around? Because I don't know if you know this, but Frank does not begin with J. Why is he A.J. Barner if his real name is Albert Frank Barner? Or am I being fooled by pranksters on Wikipedia? well I think what's happening Andrew is maybe I'm being messed with by Albert Frank Barner because he said this to someone who was interviewing him he said it was Javante and now when I'm looking it up on the internet and I'm I'm on my I'm doing this on my phone but I think I'm getting the like the AI response although it looks a little different and it says the Seattle Seahawks tight end born Albert Javante Barner confirmed this in a recent interview segment where he discussed his name, full name, Albert Gervonta Barner. But then if you go to his Wikipedia page, it doesn't say that. So I'm wondering if he was just messing with that, the person who was asking him, what's the J stand for? But why would it, why would he have a J at all if it actually is Frank? That's what I'm really confused here. Because it sounds better than AF Barner. AF Barner. If you're the most Barner you can be, you are AF Barner. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Yeah, for some reason that sounded maybe it's just because of the rug company near me. It sort of feels like take your rugs to AF Barner to get them cleaned. AF Barner is going to treat you like family. What? Yeah, I'm very confused about this, but I guess it's not going to do me a lot of good trying to solve this on the fly. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe AF, AJ, whatever his name is, Barner, maybe he was just having some fun with the person interviewing him. But it's made its way onto the Internet. It's becoming canon, at least in some corners of the Internet. Well, my friend, I think we have some donors to thank. And then I better skeedaddle here. I'm going to be filming some stuff this week. I'm doing a story about an art show that's happening at the Broad Museum here. And I'm also working on a story about NCIS. Yes, the television show NCIS. So much to report over the next couple of days from here in LA, but I need to get to some of that. So could you be so kind as to cue up our donor music? Thank you, baby. All right. We need to thank some folks who are making TBTL possible on this Monday. This is 100% listener supported. Podcasting. Five days a week. even on days when I forget my entire audio kit. Andrew, when I tell you I broke out in a feverish sweat standing outside of LAX waiting for the lift to get there with both of my suitcases on the ground unzipped. I was going through them like Uncle Billy in It's a Wonderful Life trying to find the money that he lost. I was like, it's got to be in here somewhere. I'm pulling out underwear. I'm like looking under dop kits I cannot believe that I forgot my stuff I never do that I understand that feeling that you had And that panicky feeling But also it's kind of amazing that Out of all of the times you've done a trip Where you have to do TBT on the road That you'd never have You have a pretty good track record So I guess what I'm saying is Don't let this define you I'm having a hard time not having it define me right now But you know what the issue was I left my house on Friday because I was in Portland with Becca. I had Livewire Friday night. I've been discombobulated. Usually when I leave my house, I have a whole system. Everything goes in a certain place, and then I go directly to the airport. There was too much packing, unpacking, in my car, out of my car. There was too much going on for my normal system. Did you go, and this is a personal question, and I'm not just, you know, I'm not trying to get in your head, but did you go a little wild yesterday, too, and does that add to the feeling of possible guilt? I didn't go very wild because I was worried that if I became too inebriated, I would become like a real weirdo at the game watching. Like I would either, I would snap at somebody unnecessarily. I just, I didn't trust myself to be drunk around people I don't know very well while the Seahawks were playing in the Super Bowl. So that's not as much a factor, but I definitely like on the plane, I started to do this thing in my mind, which was like, did I, cause I put all of my, my microphone and my little thing called a mix pre, I put this all in this one tote bag and that goes in my suitcase. And I was trying to visualize if it was in the suitcase or not. And then I was panicking and then I talked myself into being like, of course it's in there. It's always in there. It's never not in there. and then when I got my luggage from the luggage you know the baggage thing and then I unzipped it and realized it wasn't in there I was devastated luckily I had the world's nicest lift driver super sweet guy and I was like I need you to take me to a Best Buy if you want to just drop me off there that's totally fine if if you're okay with it I'm going to sprint in there and I'm going to get this thing and I'm going to come out it's going to take less than five minutes but if you don't want to wait I get it totally goes no no problem I'll wait I was like okay so then you just saw a lift pull up to the best buy in culver city well to a mall in culver city you saw a nearly 50 year old man me jump out of the car and start sprinting towards the mall sprint into the best buy ask the first person i saw do you sell usb microphones and he said over there i have a whole section called content creators and you're at the best buy now and it's an industry town. And I ran over to content creation and I looked at the different microphones. There was a Yeti that was like a couple hundred dollars. There was one that looked like my normal microphone. That was like $300. And there was this one that I'm using. I sprinted to the back of the Best Buy and I asked the check, because that's where the checkout is. I think they don't want people stealing stuff. So they make you go way to this back area. And I asked the person there, I said, can I please open this box? Because I need to see what the connectors are in here and if it's going to be the right thing for me. And she said, absolutely not. You are not allowed to open the box. She said, you have to buy it first. And I said, doesn't that defeat the purpose? She goes, well, you can get the warranty and then you could return it. I was like, I'm just going to buy it. So I did. And then sprinted back through the Best Buy the wrong way, like away from the exit, back to where I came from. sprinted out past the pf changs and then busted out the door and ran back to my uber and i think it was less than or my lift i think it was less than five minutes i'm picturing you just stop you just like you pass the pf changs but then you just go back for just a yes a second one helping of orange just ferris bueller style you just pluck one piece of orange chicken off of somebody's plate then go running on again what i learned is i am far too old to be running in that sort of a situation it's not it's one thing to go jogging or whatever but like to be like it looked like i stole this microphone you know i come sprinting out of the best buy i'm in like nor you know i'm in jeans and a black sweater you know and like normal shoes like i'm not dressed for exercising and i'm just fully running with this microphone box under my arm it looked like i like i just took it off the rack or whatever like it's unsettling when people see me running in a non-exercise environment is what I'm trying to say. You weren't holding it very calmly like Bad Bunny holding a football in the halftime show, which I think we're going to have to talk about that tomorrow. We have to talk about that tomorrow. Dude, like... Has a football ever been held so lovingly? I mean, we cannot open that can of conversation because I have so much to say about how much I freaking loved that halftime show. I thought it was probably the best halftime show I've ever seen. And I didn't know one of the songs. Yeah. Or, yeah. You know? None of the words. As a piece of art, I thought it was maybe the best halftime show I've ever seen. Anyway, we'll talk about that tomorrow. Right now, what I'm here to talk about, Andrew, is Tiffany Heiner, who's in Vienna, Austria. Hey, an international donor today. Thank you, Tiffany. Tiffany tuned in for the tissue talk. That's right. A lot of people stateside. A lot of stateside people were like, what are they going to say about the Super Bowl? Tiffany was like, God, I hope it goes to tissue talk today. Somebody's got to address this at some point. You know what Jennifer Ferdinand of Kenmore, Washington tuned in for? Digital rights management. That's right. I am. Another topic we covered. I need to get my hands on that thing. I got to figure that out. That DRM thing. I was Googling around a little bit. I can't find anything. That's so bizarre. I wish I would have had you there. I really was trying to channel you a little bit. I'm not kidding. I was running into various problems, and I was like, Andrew is really good at problem-solving this stuff. I feel like every time we do a THON or a remote broadcast, there's a point at which it seems like the technology is not going to work. And you just like stay calm. You're like Sam Darnold in the pocket. You shift slightly to your left. You let the defender go past you. And then you just throw a laser to JSN, which is my nickname for the Shure microphone that I use. Yes. And sometimes I throw a football that's way too close to the high synth projector. Yes. And it really freaks me out. And sometimes I do that like 10 times in a row, but it always works out fine. It always works out fine, but sometimes I really freak myself out. There have been a couple times when you were seeing ghosts. Yes, certainly. All truthfulness. Thanks also to Stan Blade, who's in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Thank you, Stan. I believe a place mentioned by Bad Bunny yesterday. In Canada specifically. I don't know about Alberta specifically, but Canada for sure. and also I think we always shout out Stan I mean again, obviously made up name, Stan Blade but a great made up name and that's why we celebrate you. We hope you're enjoying your time in the witness protection program That's right, it's awesome Stan Blade, Atlanta Falcon Thanks also to Denny Goulet who's in Edmonds, Washington Look at this beautiful little kind of synchronicity, we've got Edmonton leading into Edmonds Ooh, I do like that. Very similar sounding places. Yes, similar sounding. This is an example of how everything comes together, right? We're talking about different countries, completely different cultures, but so close in so many ways. And that's what Bad Bunny was talking about. He sure was. And then we've got Kate Ropel, who's in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Yes, she is. Thank you, Kate. Kate, thank you so much. And thank you for the pronouncer on your name, because I think I've been saying your name wrong for the last five to ten years. You think so? You think you've been saying Rappel? I think I've been saying Rappel. Oh, maybe. Here's what I would say. I know Kate's been supporting the show for a good while, and I don't think Kate would have put the pronouncer in if I was pronouncing it correctly, if that makes any sense. Oh, that's interesting. Maybe, although I do encourage everybody to put in pronouncers, even if you've been a longtime donor. The next time you fill out any form, if you if you go back in and add a pronouncer, we will try to because I not to get serious here. I actually we sometimes we joke around about mispronouncing people's names and our audience has been our listeners have been so generous and they roll with the punches or whatever. But sometimes names really are important. Right. Absolutely. Like when when I can't remember the comedian's name, ironically, but when he was sort of awarding JSN his his what was it? Best offensive player in the NFL, whatever the award was like he he like in a spoofed on his last name, Smith and Jigba and messed it up several times in a row and then laughed it off or whatever. And I think a lot of the Seahawks, a lot of his teammates were like, this is this man's name. And there's a reason like he took his grandfather's name and it's important and it's not a punchline. And so all of that is to say, if you don't want us fumbling around, definitely zip us along a pronouncer. Yes. We joke as a defense mechanism. Yes. Because sometimes if I don't know how to say someone's name, I have to try to turn it into a bit. But I would rather say everyone's name correctly. Yes. So please do. And I will not be offended if you email in to say, hey, you've been saying my name wrong, or here's how you say my name, or whatever. We would like to be as accurate as possible for everybody, including if he decides to donate Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. Absolutely. In fact, how flipping cool would that be one day? We're just going through the names and we're like Kirkland, Washington. Oh, look, that's where Jackson, Smith, and Jigba is. Wow. That would be really amazing. I got to say, I get excited when I see Steve Nelson's name. But Jackson, Smith, and Jigba might be a close number two. Yeah. Well, listen, thank you so much, everybody, for hanging out with us today. Again, peace and love to our friends in the Northeast and people who celebrate the Patriots. Y'all had a great season. And this, for me, officially buries the hatchet. So, Andrew, I may be next year where you are, which is to say kind of aimless when it comes to a Seahawks-Patriots rivalry. Because I was carrying around some hurt from the interception. Yeah. Oh, by the way, and the fact that there was a bet on DraftKings that was, will the Seahawks throw a pass from inside the one-yard line? Yeah, I had heard about this. That's an amazing bit of trolling, too. That's Jordan Hudson level. And also having Malcolm Butler be the person who kind of rang their opening bell. That was the one time I felt a little bit like, oh, screw you all. That was a troll move right there. Yeah, but all is beef is squashed and peace reigns throughout the land, at least of football. Beef, squash, those are both foods. We'll talk about commercials tomorrow as well. Definitely. Oh, stop trying to make it a food thing or whatever he says to McConaughey. He literally says that. He says beef, squash, those are both foods. Yeah. All right. Thanks, everybody. We'll see you tomorrow. In the meantime, have a great Monday. Take care of yourselves. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all. Power out.