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welcome to who weekly the podcast where you'll learn everything you need to know about the celebrities you don't i'm bobby finger i'm lindsey weber and this is the latest spirit tunnel at the jennifer hudson show oh who's that girl La la la la la la la la la la la la. Is that girl? La la la la la la la la la la la. Who's that girl? Have they ever just done a song? Well, because her name's in the song, so they didn't have to add it. It's like a miracle for the spirit tunnel. And all of these other daytime talk shows are falling in the wake of the spirit tunnel. The spirit tunnel is sucking up all of the energy of the daytime TV industry. Sherry's canceled. Kelly Clarkson's show. What are we replacing them with? More spirit tunnel? It's like every network will have their own spirit tunnel? The spirit tunnel just gets like 100 feet longer. Every time another date picture gets canceled, it gets longer. These celebrities are like, we can't get out of the spirit tunnel. Please let us out. And all the workers are lining the hallway singing. Sherry's was canceled. Seems like it was like a network decision to cancel it. Kelly Clarkson made it seem like it was her decision to stop doing it. I just think, you know, whenever you check the ratings of these shows, you're always like the higher than you expect. But they're but I don't even know how high they need to be to make sense for them. Like, I just have no context of them. It's like Matt Bellany suck on that. Like, let us know. What's the deal? Like, tell us. I'm just like, I don't know anything about daytime TV and kind of the business of it all. So I'm kind of shocked because I felt like these shows were so popular. If you told me Jennifer Hudson was going, I'd be like, but what about the Spirit Tunnel? Everyone talks about it constantly. I know. Yes. Culture revolves around spirit tunnel. Kelly says that she's ending the show because she wants to spend more time with her family because her ex-husband died. Remember, the father of her children died. Of course. It's so sad. She says it's because of that. It's all coming at the same time that I'm like, is the daytime TV world just dying? Like, what's happening? Is the Netflixification of the podcast thing killing all of these things? I don't think it's that fun to host a daytime TV talk show. I think being on TV live or almost live every single day is like a really big stressor. And if you remember, Kelly Clarkson show was on for seven years. It feels like it just started, but it's been seven fucking years. That's wild. I think seven years of having to be at the studio every day over a certain period of time for a long period of time for a singer who's not used to that and maybe hasn't been on tour in a while, probably torture. Probably quite awful. Right? But it's so lucrative. It probably pays so well that like you do it because of that. and the regularity. I bet. And the FaceTime. You're on TV constantly. Having to pretend that you care about all of these people that are sitting on your couch every single day of your life. Yuck. You have to give them all the same amount of attention. Some of them don't care. Some of them don't even pretend to care, Jennifer Hudson. No, Jennifer Hudson pretends to care. She pretends. Jennifer Hudson is trying. You're right. She's kind of lying about caring, but she's pretending. Jennifer Hudson gives everyone the exact same like, wow. Wow. So it says, you're married to a billionaire now, is what she's going to say to Eve. So it says, you realize gay marriage, single-handedly? Wow. Wow. How'd that happen? Wow. Wow. You're the first solo female rapper from the city of Atlanta to reign at the top of the Billboard Top Rap Albums Chart. Jennifer Hudson Show better never go away. We can't lose it. I know. I'm like, I'm grasping onto her like you must stay on TV. That's how I feel. That's exactly how I feel. Drew seems to like him. I can see Kelly Clarkson getting like... Well, Drew clawed her way back from the depths of cancellation. And Sherry seemed to really like it too. That's a perfect gig for Sherry. The Sherry is a bummer of it all. But Sherry never went viral. Kelly had the Kelly Oki. Jennifer Hudson has the Spirit Tunnel. Drew Barrymore has like psychosis. And Sherry didn't have the virality. Listen, like if I were to develop some sort of major medical issue, I'd be watching these every day at the waiting rooms. But like, I just don't. I'm just not finding myself in those places. The waiting rooms. You know, the various doctor's waiting rooms where you see daytime television on the TV. We're getting your oil changed, taking your car in a lot. God, wouldn't it be fun if there was a sports bar, but instead of sports, they just play daytime TV talk show. For all the unemployed day drinkers in the world. I know all these new women's sports bars. I'm like, I have some programming ideas for you. They're like, that is sexist and we're not doing it on principle. Okay. I'll just be watching at home. Wait, sources tell the Naughty But Nice that Jennifer Hudson show has been canceled. What? I know. On Shooter? Yeah. Did this just come in? 37 minutes ago. Wait, 37 minutes ago? No way. As we're recording? Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I just opened the email quickly and Shooter Scooter, shooter scoops rob shooters naughty but nice has the headline exclusive jennifer hudson show canceled this is the final season daytime bloodbath continues as sherry and kelly are out too i don't believe this how did this happen as we were talking about it sources tell nanny but nice that the jennifer hudson show has been canceled with jennifer hudson senior staff now informed that this is the last final season no extensions no retools it's over what are they going to put on these channels filler reruns yeah she gave it her everything oh my god we can't kill the spirit tunnel actually i'm like i'm devastated this sucks like where are we gonna get that from anywhere else it's a shooter scoop it's a grain of salt it's a grain of shooter it's a grain of shooter i just don't fully believe like sorry i'm taking this one maybe i'm in denial i think i maybe in denial, but I just, we're going to have to hear from the real. God, that's so depressing. I'm going to need that in variety before I believe it. Yeah, true. Okay, sorry. Back to the call. You're listening to Who's There at Weedley Call Lunch, where we take your questions, comments, and concerns at 619-Hoo-Them. Let's start with this. Hi, Bobby Lins, Jimmy. I was just calling because I just saw that Shower by Becky G has reached one billion streams on Spotify. Lindsay, you did it. Congrats to all. Singing in the shower. Crunch, crunch. Wow. Finally, I listened to Shower a billion times. I knew the day would come when everyone else would notice that I'd been listening. I've had it on playing in my apartments, various places I've been for the past 10 years. 15 years? Yeah, I've never turned it off. That's why people stopped coming over. It was actually kind of sad for me, but they said, we simply can't beat your house if you're just going to be blasting Shower by Becky G constantly. 12 years ago. It's a 2014 song. Wow. I know. It's been a long 12 years of Shower by Becky G. We saw this on an Instagram account called Becky G Data. which has sorry i'm just laughing yes which has industry 700 followers and what's funny about the becky g data instagram account is that aside from everything you've already said if you're wondering how much data could there possibly be about becky g like is there enough to support an instagram account there really isn't it's really just a fan account but every once in a while it's peppered with data like it crossed one billion on spotify oh so you're saying the hard the hard data is not as often as the count implies right like the next grid posts after celebrating one billion streams of spotify which it is her second song to achieve this milestone on the platform it says becky g 25 million this is her fifth time achieving this number of monthly listeners on the platform then the next one is just becky g's photo for glamour spain and glamour mexico read the interview link in our stories. So it is really just a fan account. And every once in a while, if there's data, they'll share the data. I thought it would be all data. Data means a lot of things. You know, data can mean so many things. You know what I mean? They're not doing original data reporting, right? Like they're doing data collecting, data dissemination, data curation. I just wanted more numbers. If I'm seeing data, I'm like, I want line graphs, bar graphs. I want equations. Get on the field, get the boots on the ground. Data boots. I'm sharing my screen with you so you can see the Becky G data Instagram account. If I flip through them really quickly, what does it remind you of? I don't fucking know. What does it remind me of? Are they fast-moving images? Epilepsy warnings? What? No, Leeloo ingesting as much data about the world as she could in the fifth element. Okay, well, honestly. She should. But to be fair, I feel like 12 years of Becky G. Shower could be ingested in Leeloo's style. You should edit that together for somebody. Hey, Lindsay, Bobby, Timmy. First time, short time, a hooligan husband. I was wondering if you read about the controversy of the Spanish male figure skater who dresses up like a minion and skates to minion music, but who wasn't going to be allowed to do his minion routine at the Olympics to do copyright issues, but now maybe he is allowed to do it because there was so much backlash. Please discuss. Crunch, crunch. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. We have our first Olympics story. I can't believe it. If the Olympics start, last night I was told, technically they start today, quoting our friend. Technically they start today. Technically they start today or yesterday. Well, the opening ceremony is Friday. The opening ceremony is Friday afternoon, but Friday night EST. Tune into your local Olympics provider on BC. Meaning peacock, yeah. And we are starting to have the trickle out of the stars. Olympics heads say, I already know all these people, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, okay, well, most of us, the normies, need to re-ingest and be fed new narratives of athletes that are either coming back or for the first time. And we need stories. We need what's the hook here, right? Like, what are they doing that's interesting? Are they younger or older than expected? Are they, is there a tragedy? Sorry, I'm trying to come up with narratives for them. We need it. Is there a tragedy? Is there, are they in love with each other or something? The two competitors. And we're going to get to it in a second, but they're advertising, which is another call, but they are advertising the Olympics currently with like celebrities saying, watch the Olympics because you'll see your faves like Lindsey Vonn. You know, like, you'll see your faves here. I am personally more interested in meeting new people. I want new freak shows. I want breakouts. I want breakouts. I want people I've never heard of. I want to be shocked by someone new and fabulous and hilarious. And we have our first, it seems. Well, okay. I will say what I love about the Olympics is that this guy is new to me, but he's old to so many. True heads say, don't you remember when this guy ice danced to Cotton Eye Joe? What a legend. He's a Spanish Olympian who is an ice dancer, ice skater, Tomas Guarino Sabate. He's skating for Spain. He's done it for a while. And the drama, the controversy, which got Twitter all worked up in a fun way, was that his program this year is to minions. Does he skate in a yellow T-shirt and tight overall looking spandex? Yes. I think they're all one piece. I think it's one piece where the spandex, it's all stitched together to be one thing so it doesn't flop around. Right, because you see that fold over thing. It's actually in the – it's an applique. It's not actually a – Yeah, yeah, it's an applique. He had some drama when he announced that they had taken away the music rights for the Minions or they hadn't achieved – they said they had the music rights when he submitted them and submitted the routine. And then they were denied. And then they were denied. And he's like, well, I'll never get to skate my Minions routine. Meanwhile, he skated it quite a few times because you got to like you're skating in like various regional championships and performances to like make your way to the Olympics with the same kind of routine. So we've seen video of this. And when I tell you it's outstanding. And actually, I do think that ice skaters know this. But like if you're skating to like Lady Gaga, I'm watching. If you're skating to Rachmaninoff, I'm a little bit bored and I'm going to need you to skate to Lady Gaga. You know what I mean? Like Johnny Weir knew this. Everyone knows this. But like, it's a very much a thing where I think traditionally they want you to skate to the boring shit. But then it's like the true heads are like, I want to break out. I'm skating to the Minions. I'm skating to Cotton Eye Joe. And he's been skating to the Minions since I went all the way back in his Instagram. The first time he posted a photo of himself skating to the Minions dressed as a Minion was in 2024. Look, I shared the screen with you. And it was a much more elaborate costume. Well, he's like, my dream is to get the Minions routine to the Olympics. Oh, my God. That's crazy. Okay. He can't wear that at the Olympics. That's embarrassing. He sleeked it down. I like that. He made it more minimalist, but it's still very identifiably Minions. Well, the song is Minion. And it's his first Olympics ceremony as well. So it's a big deal for him for a couple of reasons. It's exciting. But this is cool because through this drama, you got really good reporting from Vulture and other places about how songs get cleared for the Olympics and how annoying it can be to clear your routine track, your soundtrack through the like levels to get it shown on television. A couple of weeks ago, maybe just days, he posted to his Instagram stories. Hi, everyone. This season, I competed with my Minions short program to bring joy and a playful style to the ice while still meeting every required element to show that skating as a male Olympics figure skater can be fun. I followed all required procedures and submitted my music to the isu click and clear system back in august and i competed with this program throughout the entire season unfortunately just days before the olympic inauguration i was informed that i am no longer permitted to use this program due to copyright clearance issues finding this out last friday so close to the biggest competition of my life was incredibly disappointing nevertheless i will face this challenge head on and do everything i can to make the best of the situation so thanks to a lot of olympian fanatic reporters love we found out that starting a few years ago when the band Heavy Young Heathens got upset that someone used their song without permission, their cover of House of the Rising Sun. Their cover. It wasn't even their song. That's not an original by Heavy Young Heathens. They started suing a lot of people and it got the Olympics committee freaked out. And they were like, to avoid this in the future, we're going to partner with this company called Click and Clear to make it so that Olympians can submit the songs that they're going to be using through this. It seems like it's like an online portal. You submit it through there, and then this company does all the clearances for you, because otherwise it would be really time-consuming and painstaking and really annoying. So he says he submitted it through Click and Clear back in August. It got approved, but then suddenly we don't really know how he got word that it was band. I mean, the minions are a powerful body. Like that's I'm not surprised. You know, it's not just like a band. It's like a freaking entity. Last Friday, they said, actually, never mind. You cannot use this. And so after he posted this, and I really don't think he would have gotten approval unless he got a public outcry. I know it. After he posted this, it seems like enough chatter was had and enough outrage was brought to the attention of the powers that be at, I guess, NBCUniversal, Illumination, who owns the Minions. And he finally got all but two bits of the song, because it's kind of a medley. It's not like a Minion song. It's like a medley of music that includes Minion moments. Love that. I'll play some of it here. He is just putting on a show in this tech sequence. Actually, even at the beginning of the program, he just started with the tone of the Minions. All you need to hear is the Minions saying, like papaya, papaya. Imagine a guy ice skating to that. Actually, you know what's funny? Before I saw him doing it, I actually couldn't imagine a man ice skating to that music. And then I saw it and I said, okay. I mean, you should see him skate to Cotton Eye Joe. It's like, I can't imagine someone skating to this. And it's like, then you see it and you're like, okay, now I can. That rocks. Cool. As someone with a dancer's eye and dancer's brain, Lindsay. I'm not a dancer. You're more of a dancer than I am. That's true. You can pick up a move. You can pick up a beat and like follow a piece of choreography. I've worked on it for the past 10 years. Yeah. I'm a late in life. I'm not that old. I'm a late in life dancer. Yeah. What? Figure skating choreography is really fascinating to me because it kind of doesn't follow the rules of any other type of choreography, like non-ice choreography. Yes. And sort of weird mashups like this feel very specific to this type of dance because you can't really do that elsewhere. Well, that's funny because there are two types of performances that work really well with mashups, drag and figure skating. For some reason, drag and figure skating both really make use of the idea of this like mixed media where it's like in drag, they'll have like sound effects that I like. They'll do this thing where it's contextual, where it's like I'm making a joke about how this song that means something also goes with this funny meme or this like political moment or whatever. And I'm like dressed up as one and I'm like doing the other. And it's like the idea of kind of like, again, it's really a meme mashup, I think, that a lot of drag queens love to do because they love to be political and they love to also have pop music, blah, blah. And then in figure skating, you have mashups as well because I feel like they like to change up the tempo and get everything in there. You don't want the whole dance to be slow. You don't want the whole dance to be fast. You kind of want to have like highs and lows. You want your figure skating routine to like ebb and flow. And that's why you might do mashup. And also, it ebbs and flow more inherently on ice than it does on your flat feet. You have to, like, get from this side of the rink to that side of the rink and work up some momentum before you do your little axle or whatever. Like, it has these lulls that require mashups. And those mashups then make it so that you have to get clearance for, like, a lot of disparate parts of things. And it seems like he's gotten clearance for all but two. What's interesting to me is like you have ice dancing and then you have like figure skating and they can be a little bit different. And like I would say ice skating is more like to the beat. And figure skating is kind of more like a floor routine, right? When you watching a gymnastic floor routine you like I know the music is playing but I wouldn say she tumbling to the music There music and she tumbling But is she really like dancing to the music It like a different type of anatomy whatever People get mad at me, but I don't care. But like you're watching it. You're like, this is not like going to the music, even though it's nice. Sometimes it goes in and out of the music. But it's like sometimes you're just like, I got to get this flip in. I know musicality is a is a big thing that they judge on, too. But sometimes I'm like, where's musicality? OK, sorry. Yes. Four hours ago, like four hours before we started recording, which means probably early Thursday morning because he is in Milan now and they're, what, five hours ahead. He posted a video of himself talking to reporters at the Olympics. And I had to – it was all in Spanish. So I used my little translate app to listen to what he said and then get the live translation of what he said. But he's being interviewed by reporters and he says, we are in the last steps. I hope to have it closed tonight or tomorrow. meaning by friday morning all the elements of his minion routine should have clearance and this other yeah the vulture reporting that i thought was so interesting was that they interview this like legal expert when it comes to this sort of thing and she's like you don't have to use click and clear the service they provide you can just go to the artists and the like copyright holders themselves but it takes so much time and also they may be less willing to approve it in that situation than they would if it's through this like professional thing because like the first impulse for copyright holders of music according to this person is to just say no i think she says it's one of those things where if you don't ask the artist probably wouldn't have done anything anyway but if you do ask you're gonna get a no so she's like this is very very very complicated and it's only become complicated in the past few years listen don't ask for forgiveness not for permission that's what that's what i always say that's what i say in my family you're saying this is his first Olympics? It's his first Olympics. He started skating when he was like nine. He's from Spain. He was born in like 1999. So he's, I think, 27 years old, 26, 27. He's a six-time Spanish national champion. He's won a lot of competitions in Spain. That's exciting for him. I think it's fun to see the list of the first-time Olympians, the first-time competitors versus kind of the Lindsey Vons of it all who are like maybe in the back of their Olympic career. I mean, And of course they are because I know that name, right? Like if I didn't, she wouldn't have, you know, I wouldn't know it if she hadn't been around for a while. So it's like interesting to see the kind of the newbies or whatever. This is the first one that I'm seeing just because of this drama. But I want I'm excited for that. Once the Olympics actually start, the narratives come fast and you have to like pay attention and like pick out who you think is fun. We'll pick out some fun people like call about them. they have to start for people to discover people like ray gun at the last summer olympic remember fucking ray gun yeah like call in with some fun people if you're if you're like noticing breakouts i would want to watch and i haven't been able to see it yet but be able to see it but i've heard it's great netflix has like a mini series about the competitive pairs ice skating couples that are competing against each other that like are rivals you heard about this no it's called like Golden Glitter. You know, it's got a stupid name, but like it's about the two different couples that are competing against each other in the ice pairs ice skating. And apparently it's a crazy rivalry. I'm gonna watch it. Well, speaking of the Olympics. Hey, you didn't hear this for me, but Normal Gossip is back for its ninth season. Join me, Rachel Hampton, as I share the juiciest gossip from the real world with some very special guests. This season, we're bringing back some old friends, a Radiotopia buddy, and for the first time ever, a Nobel laureate. That's right, we have Malala on season nine. Normal Gossip is out on all your favorite podcast platforms. I want to be famous. Hi, Bobby, Lindsay, Timmy. So I've heard next to nothing about the Winter Olympics, which is really weird as a Canadian because that's usually kind of our thing. And then all of a sudden today, my feed is full of people blasting Tate McRae for endorsing and advertising the American team as a Canadian. It is not going over well, probably because of the political climate right now. Crunch, crunch. Why would she do this? Why is anyone willingly being like, USA, USA? You have an out. You get to be like, go Canada. Canada's so chic right now. He's rivalry. It's so chic right now. Healy and Shane, Rosanoff. I'm just like, why would you not want to just like root for Canada? That's where you're from. You want to take the underdogs. You've got Shane Hollander, and you're trying to get us to care about our Americans? No. I'm only rooting for individual athletes, but as like, I don't want the USA to take, I don't want us to get all the majority of the gold. We don't deserve it. And I don't want it. It's not fun to do that. So where did she root for? Where is the rooting? This is the ad watch. Oh, it's in the ad. This is what I was referencing earlier. Mama's like cashing a check. She's cashing a check, but she's cashing a check in a way that people seem to think is quite traitorous. And here's the ad that she posted on Instagram. It's like a joint post. Oh, hi. I'm a bit lost. Kate McCray. Oh, I'm nobody. Nobody's girl, that is. I'm trying to get to Milan for an amazing opening ceremony. I meet Team USA. Then it's the weekend with America's best skating for gold. And Lindsey Vonn's epic comeback. And back to the States, the big game. Super Bowl 60. Okay, I'll just ask someone else then. Okay, well, let's just say that Miss Tate McRae, Miss McRae, Miss Tate is not going to be winning an Oscar anytime soon. I'll tell you from that. In case you're wondering why that sounded so weird, it's because the concept of the ad is that she's speaking to a snow owl. Well, the owl's going, who? The ability to communicate with the owl as if she can interpret what owls are saying. No, no, no. She's not communicating. The owl said who? And then she answered that as the question, who? At some point, the owl makes a weird noise. And then she goes, Tate McRae. No, the owl said who? Owls say who? That's what they're called. No, before the owl says who, watch. Tate McRae. He's just saying who? She's not talking to the owl. You're making it more complicated. I'm like falling apart on my chair. I'm sorry. The owl can only say who? He's just saying who? He's an owl. you're like, in this ad, how can you have like an elaborate conversation with an owl when the owl can only say who? I don't know. I guess you can do that when you're Tate McCray. Bobby, you're like, she speaks owl. I'm crying. In this ad, Tate McCray speaks owl. Well, she kind of does. No. I'm like, she does. Okay. If Tate McCray spoke owl and sung and danced, that's triple threat. I will tell you where she's not a triple threat acting. Acting. Okay. But I have an issue. What? in this ad she doesn't actually say like i'm rooting for usa but she's supporting usa and then she's like i gotta get back to the usa to watch the super bowl she's pointing out all of these like major american moments meaning the u.s team and the super bowl she's supporting u.s not canada she's like getting paid by nbc to be like watch the super bowl on television this canadian comedian is very disappointed with tate mccray and made this video on his instagram stories tay mccray that is some traitor shit i just saw big bro joking but not really joking that is a crazy time to go and support the united states in place of canada on an international stage a country that directly threatens your own disappointed i'm not saying it's not embarrassing to be doing like yay yay yay rah rah but she's more so promoting like watching the olympics on tv than she is promoting the olympics themselves and like the i mean the olympians and like the teams themselves. Look, if Canadians see an owl and the Canadians are speaking to an owl, they should be asking about Canadian Olympians, not U.S. Olympians. Trust me. I mean, and I think she saw, she posted, y'all know I'm Canadian down. And she posted a picture of herself with a little flag. She, I think she was like, let me cash the check. Like I'm, you would do a two for a check. Literally, you would do a two for a check. I'm the original hockey girl before he did rivalry i was i was doing sexy stuff on the ice she was she was she literally was don't remember when she was in the she made them remember she made zamboni sexy she was the first person to make a zamboni sexy yeah and they said no they said that thing's just for cleaning ice she said watch me even the new york times reported on this a canadian pop star's new olympics ad has some elbows up tate mccray's promotional video for nbc in which she name checks team USA athletes has drawn the ire of some Canadians as the country's relationship to United States hits new lows. But again, I think the problem with this advertising campaign is that they're focusing on people like Lindsey Vonn, like Dua Lipa made an ad too, where she's like, speaking Italian in Milan about how excited she is to see Lindsey Vonn. And it's like, I don't care about the old people. I care about the new people. I care about Minion. Milan, such a cool place. And when the Winter Olympics arrive, it'll get even cooler. But these incredible women take the world stage. Lindsay Vox, fearless. Alyssa Lu, graceful. Michaela Schifrin, historic. And Chloe Kirk, levitating. They'll put on quite a show. the winter olympics it's gonna be so cool good use of training season the british people should be coming for duolipa british people the british people are like what the olympics i mean i'm just like they're doing ads for the for watching it in the u.s unfortunately that's what you're getting a regional ad where duolipa is famous enough to like you know i think she's famous enough a lot of places but i'm saying like it's a regional ad for you to watch the olympics and it's getting you psyched about american athletes because there's the names that you often know i don't agree with it but it's that's just what's happening i have to re-edit this video so that it's dually but just responding to an owl saying who milan such a cool place milan but she's i mean using her like aptitude for language her her travel dynamic her song training season incredible stunning will she be there probably no she'll be in Ibiza or something again Tate McCray is not the only one doing ads for the Olympics it's like all sorts of different people from different places is what I'm trying to say she's the easiest punching bag wait before we go to the next call can can can we just point out the ad that I sent you last night that I like was assaulted by assaulted with on Twitter that I didn't understand. No, not that one. I don't want to think of the Ritz one. Yeah, what is that? Do you get that? Speaking of baffling advertisements, Ritz crackers last night posted a photo of Jon Hamm, Bowen Yang, and Scarlett Johansson on a jet ski together eating Ritz. And it said, get on, salties. We're going to the Ritz party. But listen, like Bowen Yang is being flanked by Jon Hamm in the back and Scarlett Johansson in the front. That is a fantasy, I assume, of his. I think it's a fantasy for a lot of people. The jet ski has Ritz crackers on it. The jet ski doesn't appear to be in water. It looks like they're on the back of a truck, like the jet ski is actually hitched on a truck. But it's covered. It's like Ritz colored and it has Ritz on it. And they're all like eating Ritz like out of the box. Like Bowen is holding the box and they're all like sharing a Ritz. And I assume get on salties is a mean girls. Get in, bitch. Get in losers. Yeah. Get in losers. We're going shopping. Yeah. We're going to get in. Get on. Get on salties. We're going to the Ritz party. Then you click the ad and of course you get nothing. You just go to a link so you can buy Ritz crackers for the big game. Right. The link is just a link tree that's like buy it on Amazon. Buy it at Target. Buy it at Walmart. It's like, I'm not an idiot. I know how to get Ritz. Okay, listen. And then you go to Ritz's main feed, right? And there isn't a video that's in the captions, Ritz Island, where even the saltiest want to join the party. You click on the video. It's been deleted. Deleted. What's going on with Ritz right now? It's been deleted. What do you see? It's deleted for you. Did they block me? It's gone. What's going on with Ritz right now? Well, I think, if anything, this is a Super Bowl ad with Bowen, Jon Hamm and Scarlett Johansson and Scarlett Johansson that they're going to premiere where they're like at some Ritz Cracker Club or whatever. The way that Ritz tweets, though, it's like you really have to, like, give a gajillion dollars to Denny's. And our friend who literally invented this bullshit of Twitters for brands tweeting shit like a soup of the day implies the existence of a soup at night. No one did it like him. Not even like this. Now everyone does it like this. Yeah, this is a nightmare. Ritz crackers. Sorry, I didn't mean to bring this up again, but I was, I was, the way that I was like assaulted by that ad last night. And I was just like, so out of context. And then you get no, you can find no context. So I found, I found your accentuation pretty interesting because you said, what is this? All caps, not what is this? It was what is this? I know that implies that I'm like into it. I'm sorry. I said, click. And then you said, excuse me. And then I said, question mark, question mark. Then you said, I'm still staring at it. I had just finished watching Train Dreams. So I was sort of like, what am I? What is this? It really was sort of like this jarring experience, you know? And then I said, I don't get it. What's it mean? And then you wrote, I just watched Train Dreams. It's like, okay. Here's my Train Dream. This Ritz Cracker ad that I looked at for an hour and a half last night because I couldn't figure it out. God. Okay. We can go to the next call. Sorry. Hey, BLT. Did you guys see the trailer for the JFK Carolyn Vissette? Sorry, Murphy show because her hair still looks off. But I'm curious. And I feel like no one gives a shit about it. Like, no one's supposed to think about it. I'm shocked. I thought Ryan Murphy was everyone safe. Anywho. Me and Grease. Crunch, crunch. Bye. The funniest thing about this show is when the first behind the scenes, like, you know, New York City-based paparazzi type production photos landed, people were like, she doesn't have the riz. He doesn't have the riz. This show's going to suck because they don't look exactly like them. And then Jack Schlossberg was like, suck my dick show. You're disrespecting my family. I fucking hate you. Everyone's like, we don't give a shit about you, Jack Schlossberg, anymore. Sorry. We're done with your ass. Did you see he refused to give a comment to Dan in Dan's profile of these two? No, I didn't see that. I didn't see that. Jack Schlossberg refused to comment and Ryan Murphy himself refused to comment. He left just the two of them to their own devices. Wait, I'm shocked that Ryan Murphy didn't want to comment. Yeah, he didn't give a comment. Isn't that interesting? All right. Well, okay. So now that the show has officially premiered for critics at a premiere, and we must be in different algorithms, which makes sense because we haven't heard this. We haven't stopped hearing about this show and how surprisingly great it is considering all the kind of negative speak. And I will say the Ryan Murphy fatigue is strong and powerful. And like this is the first of the new Ryan Murphy, right? Love story. We had crime story. Now we have love story, right? Like, yep. The beauty was his last show. The monster franchise, the crime franchise. Now there's the beauty. All's fair. This seems to be the one that's getting the most positive attention since I don't know. Since OJ? Or since the one people seem to like the Bill Clinton one, the Monica Lewinsky one, even though no one watched it, because remember, it was impossible to watch. Remember how it was like not on Hulu? Did OJ, did that come after OJ? Yeah, you're right. It came after OJ. But I think OJ was was the only one that was like top to bottom, critically, commercially, people just loved. Nothing's really matched to that. I mean, I'm pretty sure the OJ one literally got him the other ones. Like the OJ one opened the door to say, let's do like crime story, love story. Let's do all these different like spinoffs. The Versace one. I think the Versace one was very well received because remember Darren Criss, didn't he win an Emmy for that? I think that one was well received as well. But then all the serial killer ones have been seen as pretty like exploitative, crass. And this seems to be, I don't want to say return to form, but like it seems like it will be the most palatable, you know? Well, what's great about Ryan Murphy is he almost tricks you into forgetting he's part of the thing because it's like you see him in one you pigeonhole him in one genre that he does so well. American Horror Story when he was doing Glee, he was in that world or whatever. It's like and then he's like deciding to do something else that has a completely different tone and texture, completely different set of writers and sensibilities and stuff that actually is getting like critical love and attention. I mean, he's literally like this, like, it's crazy that he has, like, 911 on Fox where, like, the bees are coming for Angela. And then you have, like, this gorgeous, like, love story biopic thing that, like, the critics are pooping themselves over. The trailer looks really good. And I will be watching every episode of this. Don't you think? Like, what a star. Yeah, it looks good. What a power. Okay, so, anyways, trailer comes out. What I loved about this, and I already texted you. What I also loved about this, I text you guys this, is that people were kind of getting all horny for the lead guy. His name is Paul Anthony Kelly. And one of the takes I saw is that it's hard to find a leading man with chest hair. And I was like, fair. You have a real issue. They've all lasered off their chest hair. I told you my YouTube shorts algorithms served me a video about how jaw-dropping it was that Henry Cavill had chest hair in Superman. And I was like, I will watch this. I took notice. some of us took notice and we all grow them is right right so it's like okay like the men are hairless they find this guy i'm looking and i'm like oh i wonder where he came from because her i knew i'd seen stereophonic and she's great um amazing and but him i was like oh he's so random and you know ryan murphy is the king of random hot guy like he really like he finds them but i'd forgotten this was a ryan murphy thing so i go to the thing and he you know this guy paul anthony Kelly is kind of out of nowhere, right? He has no, he is barely. He really is. He kind of literally a model He like a model turned now actor Yep And I go to text our group chat Isn it like like it funny that Ryan Murphy hadn gotten his claws on this guy yet And then I remembered this is the claws. He is. It is Ryan Murphy. Like he literally is continuing his incredible streak of finding hot guys and turning them into TV and movie stars, kind of like giving them a shot to like act and be sexy and like honestly giving them a huge shot. I mean, this guy is like for having for coming from whatever, like it's a big role. And the story in I think there are really only like two robust interviews or profiles with him. But like, it's like, oh, we auditioned like a thousand men for this role. We couldn't. And there's a part I think in Dan's piece for Variety, it's like we auditioned actors. We auditioned models. We pulled people literally off the street who had the look. We were like, we had to find this person. I love that. And I guess this guy auditioned at one point kind of early, then didn't hear back. And then later on, they were like, wait, no, that that was the guy. We had the guy. Let's call him back. I mean, the lost art of casting. Not that lost, I guess. I'm just feeling that's the best. That's the best story to hear is like he was a hot guy and we gave him a chance. The question is, do they have the chemistry? the the lead of his piece is literally casting john f kennedy jr was a nightmare because the whole because they're because they're it's a counter to the fact that like casting carolyn was a breeze well there's plenty of beautiful women in hollywood someone they saw sarah pigeon just in seraphonic like that she got nominated for tony for that again that show is so fucking amazing i think it's like touring nationally now if it's coming to your city you should see it it's so good but she i listen to the soundtrack all the time and her she plays the like fake stevie and her music is just incredible but casting her was easy i guess she's a she's a brunette in stereophonic and i guess there's a line where they were like the moment we saw photoshop of her blonde we were like yep that'll work because it was hard to see her as carol when she was but when we saw her blonde yep she's it so she was a breeze yeah finding this guy was a complete fucking disaster and so when they find him he's like plucked out of obscurity and it's the story oh my god it's it's the story that i always half believe or just don't believe at all where it's like i was this close to just giving up i was like this is over for me i'm not gonna act and then this fell into my lap you know like so now i'm an actor now so i don't know if i believe that he really was that close to just abandoning his hollywood aspirations how old is he he's an 88 baby so he's oh he's like 37 my brother's age he's 37 okay you know what then fine then i could believe as a 37 year old model wannabe actor you're saying i've done this for a long time I'm 37. I'm almost 40. I'm feeling a little bit like maybe I need to pivot or something. That makes sense. That makes sense. I'm happy to hear that. Yeah, me too. I'm just like, if he was 32 and said that, I'd be like, okay, so fuck you. But he is like insanely hot and like classically like chiseled jawline, handsome white guy. And it's not in that. I mean, we just had the whole Connor story, Hudson Williams cycle, which is ongoing. I think part of their intrigue was that they don't look like the classic heartthrob in Hollywood now. This guy does. So this guy is sort of like, back to square one, let's get one of these guys. He's very like, someone's like, he should be Batman. He should be Superman. This guy looks like that. Well, once we get a new hunky white guy, everyone goes absolutely bananas for, oh, he should be Batman. Wait, hold on. Are they making a Batman? If not, Batman. It's Batman. It's actually crazy how we do that. yeah superman make him superman superman superman i know we got lucky i got lucky with corn sweat superman but like that is what you act like when a new when a new guy comes on the scene oh oh wait bond should he be bond bond bond she's more interesting like paul anthony cully is obviously hot and this is like a quite a breakout role for someone but sarah pigeon has been plugging away for a very long time at this point and stereophonic is the thing that i think really put her on the map because because it was such a success and she was there from the beginning she was there off broadway because you saw it i saw broadway yeah so you saw it early but she was there from the jump it was a tough turnover it's a three-hour play you know it's like that was not like a likely success for for broadway or or you know for any situation like he's a known and loved playwright but that's a long show right like and it's very it's not this easy show but people loved it and she's amazing right she yeah you're right she's okay her and will brill will brill who also is now amazing appearing in so many movies and is so fucking talented and i hope has like the breakthrough that she does like in this somewhere else he's he was at all over sundance it's rare i guess i'm trying to think of like another broadway show and i guess a lot of it has to do with the size of the ensemble but like maybe not since hamilton has a broadway show seemed to be a launching pad for like non-theater careers because you think of like leslie o'odham jr david diggs philip asu like all those people coming out of that's a long there's got to be more in between that i'm not thinking of any currently but uh there's definitely in between that a more the existence of breakout but yes we're getting we're getting some exciting stuff from the the stereophonic ensemble including this show when does it premiere soon tomorrow tonight here's next week next week okay great i feel like this show is actually going to be huge despite what the caller seems to think so far he's been they were profiled by dan they were he was in he was in interview magazine with mel ottenberg and he tells like the whole story of like how that came together like how he got the role which you already went over and her that's that's kind of it neither of them are now po babies which i find interesting it is interesting it's rare these days to be just a woman. Just a man. Just a woman. She's been in stuff. Various TV shows. Stuff like that. She was just in I Know What You Did Last Summer earlier this year, which is kind of funny because it was such a flop. And not even like an embarrassing flop. I guess it's the best kind of flop, which is one that like a forgettable flop that people don't really even seem to think about or talk about. So if you're going to be in a flop movie, it's I guess lucky to be in something like I Know What You Did Last Summer. But that one also, it had a great ensemble. I will say I Know What You Did Last Summer was really nicely cast it had all the up-and-coming who's who's like it really did it was like malin klein and like jonah hower what's his fucking name and like and gabriette and uh what's her face oh chase we wonders yeah yeah like whatever i don't i think i agree that the movie was a flop but like the casting was like pretty impressive what the him guy we've talked about him before tyreek withers that guy yes the hot guy who's in the new colleen hoover right he's in the new Colleen Hoover and he's also, isn't he in your favorite show, Tell Me Lies, which we're going to talk about in a second? He is, but he's not. He's a very minor. He's not major? Okay. He's not major. He's minor. My favorite show. I hate when you do that. Your all-time favorite show, the show that you've liked the most and the one you think is the best made? You know your favorite show, Tell Me Lies? Okay, let's move on. I want to be famous. I want to be famous. Hi, Who Weekly. I'm on the E! News Instagram and apparently two people named Catherine Hughes and Brandon Cook got engaged seems like they're on Tell Me Lies is there anything we need to know about these two or can I go on with my scrolling would be great if you could chime in Crunch Crunch alright here we go Your favorite show, Tell Me Lies, tell me about these two. I watched this show, but when I saw these names, I didn't know who they were. That's the power of this show. It's like you could be watching every episode and be so engaged, but not know what the actors' names are, not give a shit who they are. It's a very weird thing. This show is extremely popular and never mentioned at the same time. Critics, I don't think, care about this show. I don't think there's any sort of like – It's a critic-proof show, the classic phrase. It's just like they don't want to deal with it. It's ending. I think there's like three episodes left. It's on its third or fourth season. I don't even know when I watch the entire thing in a matter of two weeks because I just like sped through it. It's just about teenagers being absolutely wretched to each other. I've talked about this on the Patreon. If you're there, you've heard me say this before. It's addictive, right? Like the lead couple is... Soapy? Terrible to each other. Sophie? No. Is it soapy? It's very soapy, for sure. It's in the spirit. It's like if, well, the OC and Dawson's Creek were high school. Skinzy? It's not skinzy, is it? No. What's a college show? What's a show where they're in college? Saved by the Bell, the college years? Secret Life of College Girls, whatever. But they hate each other and they're nasty to each other. Big jeans. But what's funny about this show is that half of the cast is dating each other. It's like they've also never left their bubble. The bubble of Tell Me Lies is so real that even the cast members inside the show all date each other and fucking now are getting engaged. That's so crazy. And what fascinated me about this as I don't watch the show is apparently these two are on the show. Do they date each other on the show? They had a brief entanglement on the show. Okay, but they started dating before the show. Yeah, that's even crazier. That's crazy. And same with the creator and this guy that she brought on to act on the show, too. So it's like the other relationship that people talk about. There's like five relationships on the show. One is these two who are now apparently engaged. They were dating before they were on the show together. And on the show, they like hook up. But it's not like his main girl. Then, first of all, this show, all they do is just have different, what do you call it, computations of different people have sex and hook up. So it's like if there's a character, they've hooked up with every single other character on the show. Got it. But this is mainly the Grace Van Patten show. That's the name I mostly know from the show. Yes, we'll get there in a second. So then you have this couple that got together before they were on the show as love interest. Then you have the creator of the show and her husband. She cast him as like a disgusting professor who fucks students on the show, too. So then they're like one of the like real life couples is the creator of the show. And Tom Ellis. And Tom Ellis. Then the most interesting, and I have to say, kind of the sad thing about this show is that the actors are pretty good on it. The leads are pretty good. Grace Van Patten and Jackson White are good. They also fucking date in real life. Fucking date. They also fucking date in real life. But what's so sad is that they're good on the show. But then whenever they do media, everyone's so obsessed with the fact that on the show, they're wretched to each other. But in real life, they have a loving relationship. They can't deal with it. No one can deal with it. Like he went on Drew Barrymore and she was like, how, how do you talk to your love like that on the show? And it's like, Drew, you're an actress. Like you are an actor. Like, why are you? You're an actor. You get it. Maybe. She's a talk show host. So anyways, Grace Van Patten, Nepo Baby, Jackson White, Nepo Baby. Jackson's is incredible because his mom is Katie Segal, who played his mom on the show. And guess what? She's a terrible mom. So they're screaming at each other on the show. Katie Segal married with children, Mama. Yeah. So it's crazy that this actor, Jackson White, who must have some sort of sociopathy, he's able to be nasty to his girlfriend, his real-life girlfriend, and be nasty to his mom. On the show. Don't tell me he's a good actor. There's something deep down that's wrong. So Catherine Hughes, I'd never seen before. She's been in a lot of, like, NBC procedurals that I just don't watch. A lot of, like, little small roles. But I recognize Brandon Cook. Why? because he's in my new favorite show that i am almost entirely caught up on i rarely watch shows this quickly but i inhaled industry he isn't industry he plays my holis boyfriend he's really hot and he's he plays her boyfriend in no more i think he's only in two episodes like he shows up from new york to be like i'm still here and then she's like get out of here i don't want you around anymore so he shows up to be like hot in one scene they fuck and then he goes back to new york So actually, it's kind of funny that there's a crossover actor on the two shows that you and I happen to be watching at the same time that are old. Our private obsessions that aren't private at all because both of them are quite popular. They're not private. And we've been sharing them. We've been sharing about them on various places online and on this podcast for a while now. Industry is so good. I cannot tell you. It's so fucking good. Maybe I'll get into it next. I think you would love it. The other thing about Brandon, he said on his Instagram post announcing his appearance in industry season one that it was his first professional job since then, industry was. Since then, his other big show that he was in was the show, didn't you watch it or was it your dad? Masters of the Air. That is the least show I would ever watch. I thought maybe you were intrigued because all those hot guys were in it. He was one of the many, many hot guys in Masters of the Air. I know, but this is funny. I wouldn't have gotten in 10 minutes into that show without being like, well, that's a wrap. Sorry. They have been dating since well before Tell Me Lies started. And now they're engaged. They got engaged. I believe they got engaged in Tokyo. I mean, this is like how, sorry if the real pit heads know, Patrick Ball in The Pit, his girlfriend just appeared on The Pit. She's an actress too. And she appears as girl who got her eyelids glued shut. And this is yet another reason why I won't be watching The Pit. Why? It's not even that gross. Because a girl's got her eyelids glued shut. Yeah, that's literally the least of the things on the pit that are like a thing. That's like, that's not. You're not selling me. It's such a good show. Anyways, if you eagle-eyed viewers who have looked up who is Patrick Ball's girlfriend slash maybe fiance would know that that's the actress who is playing girl with eyelids shut currently. Got it. Doing a great job. Doing a great job. And then I'm not even done. There's another couple. Okay, what's the other couple? The actors Spencer House and the actress Sonia Mina are also dating each other. And it came out. No one knew, but it came out in a makeup artist wrote a substack about the makeup and revealed it. Oh, she was interviewed on someone else's substack. Interesting. So makeup artist Jenny Lin accidentally revealed that two cast members on Tell Me Lies are dating in a substack about makeup. Iconic. Meanwhile, there's like four parts of this makeup report from Tell Me Lies, which actually is cool. They do a lot of like fun. They're always at a theme party. So the makeup is kind of fun on the show because they're always like, we're at golf night. And it's like, OK, is it set in the early 2000s or is it contemporary? It's set in the mid early to mid 2000s. But they have they have like a Y2K party. They have like a golf party. They have like a skiing because I was going to they're always going to like frat parties. Oh, I see. I see. I didn't realize it was set in the 2000s. Mid 2000s because there's a flash forward. The show like culminates in a flash forward that we're about to get to. I just am like, can't wait for it to be over. It's like it's torturing me, I guess, you know, you never read the books, right? No, but I'm very curious what's going to happen to these two leads. I was talking to a friend about this. Shout out to Sarah. We were like, what's going to happen with like Grace Van Patten and Jackson White? Because like she's done a few things, but like he and he's done a few things. But like, I wonder if it's like this will transfer over to like a, I don't know, a movie career. Maybe. She was Amanda Knox. she was amanda knox by the way she was amanda knox right she's man in ox remember we were like who the fuck is amanda because we talked about her in an episode we there's an episode with her name on it and it's like we talked about her when she was amanda knox and that's before i was like into tell me lies so i didn't get the i didn't get the hype around this girl the twisted tale of amanda knox which i did not watch you did i think you watched one episode no i didn't i thought i would watch one episode and then i turned it on and i was like i guess i did this to myself i will watch the show where amanda knox goes back to italy to confront the judge i am i am grimly intrigued by that what the hell is that but that's real the war amanda knox is like i'm gonna leave my freaky island in seattle and i'm gonna go to italy and be like what now like the trailer is like i'm gonna go up to this guy and say what now but don't you want to be like don't do it i don't go back to italy you fucking idiot well she's a fucking idiot that's her whole thing they're gonna put you back in jail. I'm a bad dog. They're going to find another poop in the toilet and be like, she did it. She did it. You're so right. You're so right. They're going to find another poop in the toilet. You're so right. Penelope Cruz, Kieran Culkin, Jude Law, Emma Mackey, and Owen Wilson will star in Nancy Myers' upcoming rom-com for WB in theaters December 25th, 2027. Does Penelope Cruz know who Emma Mackey is? Crunch, crunch. This is actually like some of the most encouraging news does penelope cruz know who emma mackie is is this just our excuse to talk about nancy myers finally getting the the check she needs to make a rom-com that is so much more expensive than any movie ever made and more than any rom-com in the past like 50 years since her rom-coms she wanted 150 million dollars from netflix netflix said no God. They were like, we won't do it for more than $130, and then I guess it fell apart. I think Warner Brothers has said, we'll give you $130. There is something so iconic, no matter how you feel about Nancy Meyers, which I feel very mixed about her these days. Me too. There's something so fucking iconic about her saying, I want $150, and I will do it for no dollar less than that. And I won't even, it's not even a negotiation. I won't leave my house. Netflix was going to give her $130 before rom-coms even had their kind of recent more so comeback, right? They said, Nancy, you're a legend. We'll give you $130 just to be a part of the Netflix family. She said, no, I'm going to need an extra $20 million. I'm going to need the full $150. Wait, thank God we subscribed to Puck because Matt did report on this. Subscribe to your local gossip bongers. he said congrats to Nancy Myers who finally convinced Warner Brothers to greenlight her long gestating rom-com as I first reported back in 2023 Myers initially sought a $150 million budget from Netflix which wouldn't go beyond $130 and despite CAA's best efforts the whole thing imploded but it's now been reconstituted at Warner's with a budget between $110 and $120 million per two sources familiar a Warner's source insists the California tax credit will bring it down to $110 kitchens included wait so she ended up taking less than the netflix offer but i think she probably prefers the theatrical stuff of warner although i guess warner might be part of netflix by then who fucking knows point is she got over a hundred million dollars to make a rom-com and that never happens no and the fact that she even i mean it's just it's just funny because it's like closer to her last movie she asked for 150 and then it became very clear as that ask got dragged on and on and on that that ask was less relevant and less realistic and blah blah you know what i mean like it got it didn get better for her the longer she waited clearly didn we go to the intern premiere together did i go with you or richard i think i didn go with richard she opened and i think about this all the time she opened that premiere when that movie came out by saying because she's very proud nancy meyer yeah no kidding she's a very like outspoken proud she's not modest mama cannot take a joke about her work or about her legacy i mean it was meeting nancy myers that night was both thrilling and absolutely fucking terrifying i wanted to rip my skin off my face but because she's so intense she's so immodest she's proud i think rightfully but i think she has an axe to grind we've talked about this a million times with hollywood not taking her seriously so the whole thing is she's like she opens this movie and she's like it took me forever to get this movie made and i don't know why because all of my movies are fucking huge hits my last movie made like hundreds of millions of dollars and i couldn't get any money to make the intern so i had to make it on the cheap it ended up being fine and making money but whatever so it takes her another like over 10 years to get the money for this she will not compromise and i guess i understand it i mean to be fair the movie industry has gotten has only plat has gone down and plateaued since she made those money like i guess she has a point saying she made money but She made money in a bygone era, and that's, I think, always going to be the argument against her or whatever, right? As to, like, getting stuff done now. Sure. But she also wants to make – she's not down to, like, discover Connor's story or the guy who played fucking JFK Jr. She wants to cast the most expensive actors imaginable. And so that's where most of the budget goes. So she got Penelope Cruz, Kieran Culkin, Jude Law back from, you know, Mr. Napkinhead, Emma Mackey, who kind of doesn't belong there. But she she pulls in like up and comers every once in a while. Emma Mackey is a name at this point, kind of. And Owen Wilson. I agree. Well, what I think is interesting is that she once had Scarlett Johansson. I think Scarlett Johansson was a lot of the budget. Was way too expensive. Yes. And I think once she got rid of Scarlett Johansson, she got to knock that budget down. I guess Penelope Cruz is cheaper than Scarlett Johansson. I think it's Penelope Cruz taking the Scarborough Johnson role. Penelope Cruz as a Nancy Meyers stand-in, because every Nancy Meyers movie has a female protagonist who is a Nancy Meyers type. And it's going to be fun to watch Penelope Cruz as a Nancy Meyers type. I think she could do it. She's done Almodovar. It's going to work. is it do we have like a log line is it is it going to be penelope and a younger man like kieran is it going to be penelope and like a g and jude i don't want owen wilson again i'm remembering what happened with him at marry me wow what a lack of anything he's giving back in when it was trying to be a netflix movie quote the project centered on a young writer director who falls in love with a producer so i think that penelope cruz is the producer and kieran is the actor and maybe kieran as the actor. I kind of think that's what it is, but we don't know. We don't know. We don't know. But I will say, if this script has been around as long as people claim, a lot of people have it. Send it to me. Send it to me. I would love it if Nancy Meyers didn't change a word when it went from Scarlet to Penelope. I think that'd be very funny, but we'll see if anything changes. Well, she wouldn't have to because she already wrote the character as Hispanic, but it was death. Scarlet's healthy. Scarlet's like, I can do that. I can do it. You want me to play a Spanish woman? That's fine. So set your calendar for December 25th, 2027. That's next year. And that is when we will all be at the premiere of the script. It was originally called Paris Paramount. Apparently the name may change. Paris Paramount? Paris Paramount. Paris? Paris Paramount. I don't think it has a name at the moment. I once got a random unproduced Nancy Meyers script from some producer when I was living in L.A. and it was about like a princess. She had written kind of her own princess diaries. You sent me that. I think I sent it to you. Do you still have it? I wonder. Yeah, I still have it. Yeah. I have it. We're not supposed to have it, but I definitely read it back then. I don't give a shit. This did not get made. It probably got scrapped. I don't care. This stuff's all over the internet. So it just appeared in our inbox. Did you ever read it in full? I did read it in full. It's good. It's good. It was good. Okay, well, let's bring Justice for Royal Wedding. Justice for Royal Wedding, the unproduced Nancy Meyers written rom-com that I somehow received in 2015. We're about to get a phone call from Nancy herself. After I just said that the woman has another sense of humor, I'll never forgive her what she did to our beautiful Rachel Handler at Vulture. I'm just like, what a sourpuss for that. For that. About the kitchen thing? Yeah. Point is, someone called and said, does Penelope Cruz know Emma Mackey? At this point, she does. I don't think she knew who Emma Mackey was before she got cast in it. Penelope Cruz saw Emma McKay? What's Ella McKay? No, no one saw Ella McKay. We never answered the question, but someone once called and was like and made a point that I'd been thinking about for so long. It's crazy to be the star of a movie where the name of the name of the movie is the title of the movie is a name, Ella McKay. And your name as kind of an unknown ish actor, which she's not unknown, but I would say not like breaking through yet is Emma Mackey. That's like really confusing. for people yeah because like you know that so many people are calling this actress ella mckay i always almost want to like her name is ella mckay the only reason i could maybe think that penelope cruz knew who emma mackie was is because emma mackie is in the second kenneth branagh Hercule Poirot movie and Penelope Cruz was in the first one. So Penelope Cruz was in Murder on the Orient Express. Emma Mackey was in Death on the Nile. The one with enough champagne to fill the Nile. So maybe Penelope watched both movies. I don't even that I'm sort of like I'm giving them a little much credit. And Penelope definitely saw Barbie but did not identify all the different Barbies. There were too many Barbies in that. There were too many Barbies and no one saw Ella McKay. No. Well, no. I mean, I do think, you know, who definitely saw Ella McKay? Nancy Meyers. Nancy fucking Meyers. That's a movie that Nancy Meyers takes one look at that poster and says, oh, my God, how do, oh, how am I not even in this? How am I not involved with this movie? Like, already, you know? Still haven't seen it. I know. And they're making it impossible. A movie like that should have been on streaming two weeks ago. Hours ago. And it's not. Years ago. It's not there. I would have already seen it. So where, so why haven't I seen it? The Housemate is on streaming and Ella McKay is not available to watch at all. What is it called? Ella McKay. Ella McKay. Ella McKay. The one where she's a governor of an unknown state. Yes. I need to see it. It's able to stream February 5th today. Today. Today. No way. It's on Hulu today. It's on Hulu today. Are you fucking kidding me? It's on Hulu today. It's on Hulu today? It's on Hulu today. It's on Hulu today. Oh, my God. I went to Hulu.com and it says, movies for you. When Harry Met Sally and Ella McKay are the top of the list. Today. As of Thursday, February 5th, 11.02 a.m., Ella McKay is on Hulu streaming. So now we can all finally fucking see Ella McKay. Okay. So I think the answer to the question is probably not, but maybe. If Penelope Cruz watched Death on the Nile, she does. But if not, no. You come to us for that type of answer. Probably not, but maybe. Incredible. Probably not, but maybe. Hi, Lindsay, Bobby, Timmy. Long time, long time. I'm calling to ask a question that I've been thinking about for a while, which is, is Kiernan Chipka or McKenna Grace currently more than me? Because in my heart, it's Kiernan Chipka as a Mad Men fan, But I feel like McKenna Grace has been in a lot more projects lately and like lead roles in a lot more projects lately. And I know that she's in those Ghostbuster movies, which I guess Gen Z really likes. So anyway, any light you could check on this would be great. Crunch, crunch. I want to point out this is important that I just realized because I had a feeling there was an age discrepancy that puts them in totally different categories, which they kind of do. I think in your mind, you're thinking of Kiernan Shipka as young because of Mad Men. She's 26. Okay. McKenna Grace is 19. That's a big, for me, spam. Like, I guess Kiernan Shipka could play a person in high school, but McKenna Grace is only playing people in high school, in college, you know? Yes. And Kiernan Shipka is now, like, playing sexy, sexy, sexy in industry. Exactly. You get what I'm saying. It's like, I understand why you're comparing them, but I'm also kind of like, they are in different categories. If they were the same age, they would be going after the same roles because they do have a similar look. But they're just 10 years apart. I had to go to Famous Birthdays to do a little more research here. Kiernan Shipka is the 3,264th most popular person on Famous Birthdays. McKenna Grace is 188. Yeah. God, they look so similar. It's really crazy. I think that McKenna Grace is having a moment in a way that Kiernan Shipka is not. Even though Kiernan Shipka has a lot of residual fame from Mad Men. And is sort of like stunt casting for industry. So is she really good at industry? Is she good? I haven't seen her yet. I just watched the trailer for season four after finishing season three. And she plays like the third in a relationship. Okay. And are people discussing it? Like are people talking about this new sexy Kiernan Shipka thing? Everyone I know who's watching industry is like, she's so fun in this new season. But again, I'm not there yet. So I do think that's like the beginning of exactly what she wants and will get. Right. If she's good. Fully an adult role. Yes. And she's like, I'm not Sabrina anymore. Like, fuck Sabrina. You know what I mean? Like, I'm an adult or whatever. So I do think she's the cooler one. But I do think McKenna Grace is more of the industry. Like, you know who knows who McKenna Grace is? Nancy Meyers. Nancy Meyers. You know what I mean? Nancy Meyers is like, who's the blonde girl? Love her. Nancy Meyers is like, I need another irritating child of a character. I'm casting McKenna Grace. McKenna Grace, her name is being written down on a napkin in Nancy Meyers' house and being put into the drawer for later. Yeah. I haven't seen many McKenna Grace projects, frankly. We saw Regretting You. Regretting You. I saw that one that she made with that really bad movie that she made with one of the Chris's, Chris Evans. I think that was her first. She played his daughter or something. She's in the upcoming Hunger Games, which I know people are loving. She's in the upcoming Scream, which obviously always does well. She's in stuff that's stuff. And it can't compare with Kiernan Shipka. McKenna Grace is on the come-up, which instantly makes you a little bit more of a name. I agree. So I think McKenna Grace is more famous. Well, Kiernan Shipka is post that come-up era where she's proving herself as an adult actress, which I think also is cooler and more interesting. And she might even go, might end up like, like McKenna is doing the thing that Kiernan kind of didn't do, but I guess was put, but maybe was pushed to do, but now is like in a different realm. Like we don't, they're really not in the same. That's what I'm saying. It's like, they're not in that same space to even compare in a way. And it's really crazy that McKenna Grace has been in so much stuff. McKenna Grace has probably been in more movies than Kiernan Shipka. Although Kiernan Shipka has been in more TV shows than McKenna Grace. Well, easily because her career as a child actress is prolific, which is crazy. It's like if you look through, you're just like, oh, my God, you're banging this up. You were CSI. You're one episode of every TV show. Vampire Diaries. Dog with a blog. Oh, she's on Dog with a blog. We just talked about that. Young and the Restless, 50 episodes. CSI Cyber. Remember that show? I do. But Karen and Shipka was on Mad Men for a long time, too. Yeah, that's where her childhood went. okay so McKenna Grace more famous than Kiernan Shipka but both of them are who's do we feel comfortable saying that very I'm confident even I'm so comfortable and confident so thank you for listening to another episode of who's there call in 619 who then to leave questions comments and concerns for our Friday show support us on patreon.com slash who we be for bonus episodes the discord server commentary tracks and more you can also get the audio only audio only on Apple Podcasts just click subscribe within the app this weekend we'll be talking about among other things, the traders. So we'll see you there. Thank you to Katie and Eric of The Hoos for providing our video theme song on Tuesdays. Thank you to Timmy, our research and editorial assistant, for researching and editorializing. And we'll see you on Tuesday if you're not a subscriber. And we'll see you on Sunday if you are. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. 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Bye. long time first time caller calling in just to say please do not get rid of the montages i don't know who that other caller was they can be a hater by themselves um do not get rid of the montages and i hope there's a montage of people calling in to say the same thing and you put me in it hey poppy lindsey timmy not a question but a comment um i went to uh the jesse j concert in silly about a week ago and I truly have not been able to stop thinking about it yet like I'm just gonna I should start this by saying I'm I'm advising anyone that has the ability to go see her on this tour to go see her just because it was unlike any other concert experience I've ever had um I think she's really one of a kind like aside from the fact that she's an incredible singer you know I think you are the ones that put me on to her on the the Chinese singing show and that video of her singing the Whitney Houston song is one of my top watched YouTube videos of all time like in the amount of times I've watched it and how much I love it but uh like I laughed I cried I don't even listen to Jessie J music and all of her songs felt very moving it feels intimate it's this is not an ad I don't work in the industry I swear like I just my friend and I were just like cracking up laughing after we left because it just was so weird but in a good way you don't have to play this I don't even know where she's going to be on the tour anymore but uh I highly recommend I don't know she's kind of she's great okay love you guys hi lindsey bobby timmy um today is my birthday and for my birthday my friend got me an annual subscription to the criterion channel so of course all day today i have been saying happy birthday criterion channel and i went through the effort to show the video to my husband because he had to see how funny it was and i'm going to tell you he didn't quite give the reaction I was hoping for. But he was really excited when we saw the Barbra Streisand Bridge. So we're one for two on Babs-related content. But also, of course, I simply had to call you and give you all this information because on my birthday, I'm thinking about Who Weekly. Okay, crunch, crunch, avias, youngin, showing whole. So I'm just calling on behalf of what I can only assume is the many Who Weekly listeners who loved Twist magazine back in the day. You expressed befuddlement, not knowing what Twist Magazine is. For my purposes, it was like the place that you could get poster inserts of Justin Guarini. For others, maybe it was something different, but I guarantee you there's a strong contingent of Twist Magazine fans in your midst. Crunch, crunch. Hi, Who Weekly. This is, you know, not really worthy of playing, but I just wanted to say solidarity to Bobby. Because when you said you got a PI or MIC in North Texas, I gasped because I knew it was my hometown, Benton, Texas, where I actually also got an MIC. So solidarity, sister. Also UT alumni. So feeling very connected. Crunch, crunch. Hi, Bobby, Lindsay, and Timmy. This message is mostly for Bobby. talking about Patagonia, and I love your love for the paralegal business. I guess you could call it a business. I am a patent and trademark paralegal, and I can truly say I love my job. I absolutely love it. Every day I learn something new. It's very interesting. Some of my friends are like, isn't that such a boring office job? I'm like, no, it is so, so, so super interesting. And so I feel like totally if you – I never want you to quit this job ever, ever. I love you too much in what you're doing. But if you ever want to have like a part-time gig as a paralegal, I can highly recommend it. And you're right that Patagonia had to go after Patagonia or whatever she is called. They had to. If you don't go after people who are infringing your trademark, yeah, that's not good. The patent office, the trademark office will take action. and I wanted to just really quickly say in our firm sometimes like these big ass companies go after these tiny tiny tiny like little restaurants or you know little shops and and it's it's sad for them they get really really sad and freaked out and a lot of our attorneys who are really good people, actually. They secretly want to lose. They have to give their all, of course, but, yeah, you do kind of want the little guy to win or the little girl. Yes, gender neutral. Okay, that is all. I love you guys. Bobby Paralegal. Okay, have a great, great day and crunch crunch