Ep. 402 - How to Build Wealth Authentically with Elizabeth Ralph

Financial freedom for me equals ease. That's really what causes us to be controlled, is the fact that for survival, we need money. So so much of this goes back down to permission to just call bullshit on the ways that the world operates with money, really. How to manifest money, abundance, and invest in the new paradigm with Elizabeth Ralf, the spiritual investor. I am so freaking excited for this episode, guys. This was actually a very spontaneous recording because I recorded with her for her podcast, and we had just talked about so many topics before and after recording that we were like, we need to have this conversation on air and really help guide people from this new paradigm way of relating with money, of relating with wealth, of relating with the energetics. If you did our money challenge with us last summer, which is still available now, by the way, it's a permanent workshop inside our pathway membership. But if you did that challenge, you know that the way that we relate to abundance and not just wealth, not just money, not just the physical tangible assets, but the ways that we notice abundance in all different aspects of our life contribute to how we show up with our finances, how we are in scarcity, how we are in lack, how we are in dog peddling energy, how we put it on a pedestal is something that we need to achieve in one day. And the secret to manifesting money is that you have to take it off that pedestal and see the value in your essence, your energy, what you are sharing from the heart, and that exchange will feed in how you will manifest money. It almost seems convoluted that you have to really just value yourself and your belief and your certainty that you will be healthy compensated. Obviously, you have to move through the limiting beliefs and we talk about that in the challenge. But once you do that, if you can really anchor into this possibility that your expression, your gifts have value for expressing however they want to come out, whether it's a service, whether it's a good, whether it's just your time, your space, et cetera, and that that can be compensated for money, is just a way to start letting your mindset sit on this framing and play with, okay, if that were true, what would that mean about how I interact with things? What would that mean of how I respond to money? What would that mean about how I invest? What would that mean about every decision you're making when it comes to career finances, investing, savings, retirement, budgeting, all of it? Like how do you actually relate to that thing? I think especially after going through the Money Challenge last summer and everyone having so much success in opening new income portals and having a new level of security and baseline in their nervous system from that, it's the perfect time now to have a little refresher if you haven't gone back in to just remember, okay, what are those old fears and limiting beliefs that tend to pop up? And are you in a cycle of it? Because I've even felt some of those fears pop up this year of like old programming, old fear beliefs, old scarcity beliefs, and needing to kind of attune to my nervous system, attune to my inner child, check in with them and say, okay, but what is the decision I want to make from my hair? Self, what is actually true? Can I separate the fear from the facts and really sit with what's in front of me so I can take the aligned decision as those money fears or scarcity fears pop up? There's so much in this episode. I'm so excited for you guys to dive in. It's also the perfect time because we just released our seven day nervous system reset. So if you're looking for something to help you regulate before even looking at your money, I know we're headed into tax season that can always stress people out. How can you broaden your perception to allow a different possibility, one where you are financially free and are you ready to step into that reality? Even one tiny step, let's expand your capacity today. And stay tuned for the end of the episode. I'll give you guys some TBM tools and tips so you can utilize to help you do this. Also, reminder that this episode is for entertainment purposes only. We are not your financial advisor. I am certainly not a financial advisor. Anything that we're talking about here, make sure you're doing your own research, you're investigating on what makes sense for you financially, and you can always consult with a financial or tax professional. And now a word from our partners. 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I don't go into things typically going ice next to someone to be like this, because I almost think that's like a diminishment of the experience itself, that's not allowing. But when I met you, it was just kept opening up and opening up, and I was just more and more drawn in, and I'm just, and then the conversation, that we ended up getting into, which led to, I think, this. I think that's probably one of the most manageable things about living in this time and space, is that you connect with people on the same frequency, and it's a buzzing, it is an expansion. And I think to a certain degree, that's really just all we're looking for, because we meet these people on this frequency, and then we're seen in their scene, and then it's an exponential factor. I think this is something you talk about, especially with money a lot, but this concept of how energy is shifting in the new paradigm, and how it's gone from the 3D, where it's like you have to hustle and do all this stuff, and now we're really entering in, and you said it so beautifully on a bunch of different podcasts, but that we need to focus on our energy, and the expression of that energy, and things will then come to us. I mean, it's the base concept of law of attraction, but we're actually seeing, I would say, more results of it happening now, even though reality is slow to catch up fully, we're not fully in that yet. But even with interactions, it's true with money, but also with friendships or connections, I find this that there is no effort that needs to be done when the timing is right and the match is right, it just aligns. Are you finding that as well? Yeah, and I think the lack of effort that you refer to, and you're spot on with it, and I think that people are feeling that, and they're like, how do I get more of that? Ironically, how do we get more non-efforting, which sounds like Google itself, right? There isn't any effort when it's just love flowing through you, going back to what you said at the beginning, like this new paradigm. It's actually so easy, but it becomes so complex, because there's so much around the way that we used to do it, that we almost can't get our head around, that it could be so simple to do it the new way. I think one way that someone could look at it would be, if we're talking about new paradigm versus old paradigm, which really is all the same thing, but it's just like the language fits for us to understand this. You don't think that it is simple as two different rooms. I think of like one room is orange and one room is blue, and so which room do I want to go in, because everything comes to both rooms? The old room, let's say the old room is orange, that's the one where you're trading your time. It's the efforting world, and then other one, which would be blue, it's just changing what your job is. It's simply changing where you are in terms of work on the spectrum. In the blue room, the work is creating a space for what you want to come in as an invite, and so you're creating a space rather than directly saying, I need to get this. And so it's just like love, like you can't get love, you receive love, and so the money is the same thing. You don't get money, you receive money in the new world, but don't get this evidence base. This looks directly like this. I understand this. I mean, I had a mastermind call this morning, and that was one of the topics, she's like, how I operate in this world without a plan. I don't get it. And it's so much more enjoyable too, this, because you operate like this. Yeah. I love the way that you said that both are existing at the same time. It's whichever one you want to co-create with and move into, because you said this on another podcast you were on, but really looking even at businesses and marketing. The old school system of funnels and many chats, and all these lead magnets and all that stuff, and we have a lot of entrepreneurs in our membership and listeners, but there's this messaging that you have to do these things, and it's in your integrity to like want to share your work and do all of that. And I'm speaking as a company who we have funnels, and we have lead magnets, we do those things. And I guess I'm in that position now where I'm having to almost like peel everything back. I'm like, wait, but why are we doing these things? What is the ultimate goal here? And what is the energy? And you talk about this so well, like what is the foundation from which you are doing this from? Are you setting up this funnel because you're like, okay, well, we have to get customers and this is how it goes, or are you coming from that heart led space? Or are you, this is how my creativity operates. I'll get like this random ping in my body. I'm like, I can't wait to create that. And I get so excited and happy. And like if I'm making something from that place, it feels more in integrity. But then you have the old school system where it rewards that hustle behavior. So stepping into the new paradigm is almost like taking a step into the dark and trusting, taking your hands off the wheel, letting go of that control. How are you seeing it and moving with that? You know, I see it as a responsibility. So I've chosen to live in the new room. So I don't, I'm not under the illusion that the new room is just ferries and rainbows either. I was talking about this morning, I always get what I want. And sometimes when I say that people are very confronted because they're like, what do you mean you always get what you want? Well, always getting what you want doesn't mean you're not gonna not get what you want at some stage. It means that something could come to you and you simply include it. And so you're talking about funnels and people, they want to be creative and share their work. But yet you've got them the funnels and sometimes people don't like the sales part of it and the marketing part of it, right? If we see that our responsibility to live in the new room is to actually include and replace. And you could do those, you could switch the order. So let's say I always think of everything on a spectrum because I'm not a linear thinker. And so let's say you like that creative part of it, right? Well, you live in the 3D world, so you chose to come to the 3D world, right? That includes money, transactions, that includes communicating with people in a clear, concise way. That includes all of the things. But not making meaning out of what does that mean if you have to go marketing, even change the language if you need to. Marketing, what is that? That's clear, concise communication. I take the responsibility. If I'm a creator, I am then going to have clear, concise communication. But instead of doing it the old way with the marketing and the funnels and all that, I take responsibility for, okay, well, in my case, I do have a team that will set things up, but I don't rely on that, right? I see that as sort of like, that's a container, but living in the new world requires my energy. My energy is dynamic. It's always changing. So I have a responsibility. What is the call of the energy narrow? What are people actually wanting? How can I help them now? Healing that energy, that energy is almost like an input into the old structure. So I'm using the old structure, rather the old structure using me. When it uses me, I feel like I'm being controlled. So then I'm taking all of my power back. So it's like I'm operating within the world, but I'm standing in a building with like, I'm looking at the structure, but I'm still freely moving through the building. And my energy is what's holding up the building now. Oh, I love this. And I love the visual of that too. That really is the shift. If you're going to use the tools from the old paradigm, right, like marketing structures or whatever, you could interject this for, I don't know, even like investing could be considered an old paradigm structure, but it's like, what is the way in which your energy is showing up to that thing? And that is going to change the result, what happens. And this is the tricky part is that people might hear this and be like, cool, I just have to do X and then I get Y. And that transaction is already dropping you back in to old paradigm because you're thinking you're without it. You have to change yourself or become something that is without yourself to get it. They like slides over that we already have our authentic essence, our worth is within us. It's already there. We just got to let it out. We got to let it be. We got to let it flow. We got to remove the programming and conditioning that's on top of it, but it's already there. We don't need to fix or pull things into ourselves to make ourselves whole again. It's already whole. We're just peeling back the layers. And I think that's so much of this new awareness for the new paradigm. Yeah, you're exactly right. It is. And I think we also can look at that there is also ego that does come into being a creative and being entrepreneur in that us being attached to what is our thing. And I think that actually what I see from helping people is that we can get a time collapse if we will actually be under the agreement or responsibility, however you want to say it, that while I might say something a certain way, and that might be my language, because I do kind of have like this language that people kind of pick up from on the podcast or whatever, it's my responsibility to frame it in the language that is being called. I'm just working through this, like even just this example right now. So this replace and include this, the two rooms, right? That is the way I framed that so that I feel like people will understand it. It's not because I need them to understand it. It's actually doesn't even feel like me. So my responsibility is more to allow it and to pick up on the energy of other people and explain it rather than being, oh, I teach creative money and I teach intuitive investing and all that because as soon as I come in with just my language, then there's already a distance. Like I've already isolated someone. It also requires an elevated greater consciousness version of me because if I do that, I have to tap it. And the more I do that, the more my life expands and the less I need ironically. It's like the more I allow, the less I actually need. And so then that's actually what replaces the doing. Okay, talk about your consciousness journey a little bit because for people who might not know your story or your background, like you were on the trading room floor. You were in that culture, very high, tense, stress, very masculine, go, go, go, do, do, hustle energy. And you had a shift. It sounded like gradually over time, over like eight years or so that these layers peeled off and this awakening started happening. But there was this one reframe where you talk about realizing that you needed to define your own freedom and that was like that first seed that was like, okay, right, I got it. I hear the call. Talk about that shift for you. Yeah, yeah, that's so great. Yeah, well, it's even kind of ties into what we're just saying. It's like I took back my language because anytime we are buying into anyone else's paradigm in order to buy into someone else's paradigm, I have to give up part of my power. And so if I believe in the traditional financial system telling me what financial freedom is, which is sitting a rocking chair at 65 and do nothing, but work your butt off until you get there, because to me, I was like, well, that doesn't even sound like living like, okay, work, work, work, and then buy all the things and have all the nicest things you can possibly have. And that's quote unquote, experiencing life is how many things that you can have. And then at 65, you're exhausted and then you enter the medical system. So it's like every the economy is just making money off of you the entire time because the definition of financial independence or financial freedom, whatever you want to call it, is not actually that beneficial for the individual. If you think about it, it really benefits the economy to keep people in work and to believe that they actually need to work their whole life in order to not work. When did we start buying into that? What I know. Insanity. It is. And so I came to a point and I was in Australia and I happened to see a wild kangaroo and came up and took a cheeto out of my hand. And there was just some kind of like one of those weird moments where I was like, oh my God, this wild animal is defining it some freedom. What am I doing? Because at the time I was working on the trading floor at that time, and I was checking my email from Australia on vacation and all that. And I thought, wait, I get to define what my freedom is. And that's when I said, okay, well, financial freedom is not tied to an amount because anything could happen and we don't know how much money we're going to need. I mean, we can like throw an arrow at the wall. We could kind of guess it, but we really don't know. And I'm always looking for what can I get behind with certainty. So I thought, okay, well, I am certain that if I can get myself to a place where I can cover my cost of living monthly cost of living, and I can put enough in retirement where when I future forecast it out, it kind of fits all the check boxes. This is kind of what you think you should need kind of thing. I was like, that's not all the money I'm going to need. That's not going to cover everything that I but it's going to put me I was looking for what's that point of ease. So I equated financial freedom for me equals ease because that's my language that can only come from me. And it was shocking how fast I got to that. And as soon as I did that, you mentioned the word like trust, right? So as soon as I did that, the plan started coming in. And I actually ended up retiring two years earlier than I thought. And then I didn't even know that I was going to help people with money. And you know, I feel like it just someone asked me to help them with money. And I was like, no, I don't do that. And I kind of got talked into it. And then it worked. And here I am eight years later. What do you think? Because our audiences across the spectrum in different levels of their what we call like their wealth consciousness, right? Like some people are really in survival. They're trying to figure out how do I even open up the portals to cover my monthly expenses? Like they're struggling to have money come in and have money stay. And then there's people who are at certain levels of abundance, but you know, they're kind of questioning, I'm trading my time for my energy. I have to be pushing and blah, blah, blah. And if I take my foot off the gas, like it all crumbles and goes away. And then there's people who are further along in that scale too and in between. But what would you say for someone who is looking at their life, they want to redefine freedom as ease and spaciousness and maybe some things that are connected to their authentic essence. And it really feels grounded in who they truly are. What would be your first step or movement or awareness or action? I don't know that you would tell them. Well, I would tell them first go into the blue room. And the way that you can go into the blue room are really, really easy is money is just ones and zeros. And so when money is just ones and zeros, then everybody just has ones and zeros. And if you think about it, it makes sense because if the world stopped, money would not matter. So does money really matter in the present moment? Not really. The only thing that matters in the present moment is the power that's coming through us. And so step two in that blue room would be once you have almost like calibrated your way into the okay, I'm embodying the concept that money is ones and zeros. And I mean debt too. It's all ones and zeros. Once you have gotten yourself into that, then there's a release point. And then once you've gotten yourself into that, then I would actually then go back and look at what are the things in the 3d world that you are will say doing in which you are experiencing a lack of power. I would literally take those one by one and then and then have a real conversation from the place of because when you money is ones and zeros, then suddenly money has a new relationship and you're not tied to all that conditioning and all that stuff anymore. So you've almost parked it. Then closer to the real you, the real you is then saying, well, where do I feel a little controlled? I feel a little controlled when I sit down to look at my money. Okay, so make that singular, take all of your energy and go into that literally go into that. What's going on here? Be curious, be like you would almost be talking to your child or something like you're just you're investigating that that leads you to, you know, I talk about money neutrality that leads you into a state of neutrality, which is the greatest opening to money. Because that's when you're going to see things like I've seen students say, Oh, I didn't know I had this extra account. I didn't know how easy it would be to invest. I didn't know it would only take me one day to get my money management done. And oh my God, I've been putting that off for five years. That's when all of that's going to come in. Because also when you are singularly focused, you're not in time. So money and time are so intertwined that we almost unless we break the structure on the relationship with money, we're always at the mercy of the relationship between money and time. And that in itself is taking us away from being able to engage with money as energy as a source. When you talk about the singular focus piece, immediately my mind goes to presence, because when you are in a state of absolute presence, you are not future projecting or worrying, you're not thinking about, well, this happened in the past and this is going to happen again. You're like, what is true in this moment observably true in this moment? And that's almost like that step back you're talking about, like, can you be the observer? Okay, I'm noticing my heart's racing. Okay, this is happening. I'm looking at this. Oh, these are facts about where my money is at right now. Okay, these don't have a meaning. These don't have a story. They don't have a narrative. It's a neutral money neutrality, neutral thing. But also in that presence, I found whether it's presence with money or presence in nature, any sort of presence like true presence, time doesn't exist. It expands, it moves, the second time enters my consciousness, it exists. But in that moment, it doesn't exist. Exactly. Yes. And the way that I look at my life is that I work for certainty. Source is always certain. And if you're uncertain, then you've departed from source. And so when I said a few minutes ago, I said, I always get what I want, always get what I want. Let's just say I want a million dollars. And let's just say that I have debt or I don't like to look at my money, right? Well, I know that I'm when I'm in certainty that I'm going to get the million dollars, then I'm seniorly focused on that. What I'm going to do is I'm going to go over here and I'm going to say, okay, well, I'm not deciding do I want to do money management or like that's taken off the table because I'm in certainty that I'm going to get a million dollars. And part and parcel piece of that is doing the money management. If they commend that you don't want it, then you can say, well, getting what I want does not disinclude not getting what I want. In fact, it could be seen as, you know, you go, I was using the example, like, I am certain I bake a cake, I put the cake in the oven, I'm certain that I'm going to get something out. I don't go walking around the house wondering, is the cake going to be flat? Is that going to do that? You know, I just I'm going to get a cake. Well, I don't have a cake when I'm dealing with the flour. I don't have a cake when I'm dealing with the sugar. I don't have a cake when I'm putting the I whatever I'm okay with that. The only reason that we don't see our money is that in literally as simple as we are the creators, just like the cake is because someone told us we can do that, that we're not allowed to actually do that. So so much of this goes back down to permission to just co-bullshit on the ways that the world operates with money, really. There is no greater feeling that at the end of the day, you get to crawl into a bed that has the softest, most luxurious, comfortable sheets. That is why I am obsessed with cozy earth's bamboo sheet sets. They are made with 100% viscose from bamboo with a buttery soft satin finish that gets softer with every wash, especially for those warmer months or if you tend to run hot as you sleep, it's extremely breathable, temperature regulating, designed for an oversized fit so it drapes really nicely and they are designed to be slept in, washed and loved for years. They're completely risk-free purchase. They have a 100 night sleep trial. They have a 10 year warranty. 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I remember when I was first learning a lot of these concepts, probably like 10 years or so ago, hearing money is energy and I was like, what? I heard it and it made sense. It rang true when I heard it, but I didn't really grasp it or understand it. The way in for me was like, well, even if I'm not 100% sure what this means or if I really believe it, it can't hurt to try it out. It can't hurt to dip my toe in. It can't hurt to play, pretend, and see what the energy feels like and see what shifts within me when I do that. And I feel like that's almost like that first hurdle in that scarcity consciousness. You almost want proof of the outcome before you decide to even go on the path. You want proof that everything's going to work out perfectly and you want someone to say, I can tell you with 100% certainty that if you do this, you will get this return in X amount of days. You're only going to trust the proof once you take the leap and once you start moving in that direction as well, which is almost a part of that process. Yes, your roommate. And that's what you defined there is exactly, I think that's probably the number one thing that keeps people stuck wanting to see the evidence. I think I just have a belief that I can figure anything out. So if I can figure anything out, then why would I even want to always see what it looks like? Every time I run into contrast, I get that initial, I don't like this. But then what happens is the turnaround time is so high now with, okay, it's a massive emotional and I just need to move through me or something. But I always know that there's going to be a greater version of me on the other side. I always know that I can figure it out. So I just enjoy so much more now than the evidence based. And now I've gotten to a point where I can't feel myself in the old way. I can't do the old way anymore. It's like the blinders have come off. Yeah. And now it's boring. Yeah. To be quite honest, it's so boring. I can't even myself do it anymore. Yeah. I also think, okay, that freezing, like I just trust that I can figure it out. I truly feel I have that too. Like there's just something in me that, you know how you can have parts that are in conflict, there's no inner conflict over that belief within me. Like it just feels like a fact. I feel like I can rest on it, feels grounded, it feels rooted. It's not egoic, it just feels, yeah, that is true. But I do feel in part that some of that came from at a young age needing to figure things out. And so from a very young age, I was empowered for some good reasons or some bad reasons. But regardless, the result was that I had to trust that I could figure things out. And so I wonder, did you have a similar message that was rooted young? I did actually. I had problem, I mean, and many people share the same story. I had a quite a tumultuous childhood. I do believe that it gave me a shocking amount of independence. It also though, at the same time, while it gave me independence, there's always two sides to every coin. It also gave me this ability to withdraw. And so while I was the observer, was I observing and in my power, or was I withdrawing? Well, it was a little bit of both. And so as an adult, I had to learn how to, not only not withdraw, but I had to learn how to communicate in a better way. I had to learn follow through because when you withdraw, you don't necessarily follow through with things. I had to learn all these things. And so when I mentioned responsibility, I really, I take on very few things. But when I do, it's like, kind of watch out world. And when I say take on few things, like, I just went through, you know, a fire ceremony yesterday where I did a clearing and I wrote all these things down and I threw them into the fire. Well, that's not the end of the line. That's just the beginning for me. Now I'm like, I'm living into the responsibility of now actively being that human who does not have those traits that I threw in the fire. I'm not just going to say, I'm going to throw this in the fire, I trust the universe. No, I actually have to be the self expression of it. Or it's just that I've just probably wasted my time. So we don't actually gather something until we become the self expression of it. So if we're not discovering who we are, we're never going to be the self expression of whatever we do just through in the fire, because we don't know that version yet. This is so, so important to talk about. And as a team, we've been talking about this a lot too, but this concept of integrity with your authenticity, integrity with your values, even integrity with your manifestations, you know, you have a goal, you have a manifestation. We are not in the game of write it down, throw it to the universe, it'll bring it back to you. No problem. Like you need to show up differently. You need to go through those limitations and those blocks to heal them to attune to yourself. You need to take aligned action. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Like you need to step forward for it to meet you. It just isn't going to glide with something that's not moving, not shaking, not changing. And it doesn't mean doing it from force either, which I think is the balance. And that's kind of where I'm curious how you're, or what things you're bumping up against as we're ushering into this new paradigm, or as people are ushering in, we're between these two worlds where the integrity line is, okay, can I be true to me and be in line with my values and act in accordance with this when X, Y, Z happens in the world or when this happens or that happens? Like what are the places where you're having to take almost like radical accountability for your state, your mind, all of that stuff? Yes, I love this. And I also want to say thank you for being someone who teaches people to take it further and to actually get into action with it. I'm sure that people who are listening to this recognize that, but if they don't, it's rare. What you guys are doing is so rare in terms of actually bringing all of the pieces in. And I think that's why it's so effective. And you are teaching people how to get on that new frequency and how to actually stabilize themselves. And so you're right about that some that it does require, I think I was gonna say sometimes, but I think it probably always requires a radical accountability, because who are you being accountable to is typically what I find that people don't ask themselves. Are they being accountable to the version who, yes, I do get up every morning, you're in coffee and I go to the gym and I read and I read the Wall Street Journal and I, I travel every six weeks and I did it out like that's all great, right? But if you don't watch it, your whole life can be swept up into being accountable for that identity. Or are you accountable to the version of you who is going to be smacked in the face with contrast so hard that you're like, my God, am I even going to be able to get through this? Like, are you accountable to that version as well? Are you accountable to the version who feels like they have hurt someone's feelings and you have to actually sit and go, no, I'm not responsible for that other person's feelings. I didn't make them feel that way. I just did what I did and are you accountable for the fact that if you need to clean something up and communicate, you will, but you'll do it in a new way that maybe you're uncomfortable. Are you accountable for the uncomfortable moments? Are you just avoiding them? Because if you're avoiding them, then effectively what's happening is you're creating distance between what you want and you're slowing yourself down in time. To me, the message that kept coming through was like learning to be accountable to that higher self. Through internal family systems therapy, they talk about it as the self, the calm collected, all of that. Through our work, we talk about it as like the magnetic self, the higher self. It's that source energy that sits within you that isn't urgent. It's not fearful. It's not in scarcity. It's wise. It's calm. It sees clearly. It has access to the quantum field. If we can even have a bit of awareness of like, okay, I'm not going to be in that state all the time, but when I'm there, can I understand the types of choices I would make? How I would take care of myself? How I would show up? What kind of person I'd want to be and not, I actually don't even want to say want to be the type of person that I naturally am that's loving and compassionate. Accessing those parts of self, I think is the beginning of that. Because I think if we don't have awareness of what that source energy is that isn't covered with all of the limitations, then we just start blending. That's when we don't know who we're accountable to. We're accountable to our fear, our whim, our scarcity, our ego, our defensive part. We're letting all of this stuff take the driver seat. Yeah. And that's really great that you have given people direction on that. That's what causes them to feel like they need a plan is that they feel like their life is directionless if they don't have a plan. When in fact, that's not true because you mentioned that, that inner safety, right? That place, that self. That's actually where the plan comes in. That's actually the plan for me. And I don't know how, you know, is this lands for other people, but just what I say to myself is that I just include it all, whether I'm in a relationship or whether I am going through something in the company, whatever. What I say is I just, I include it all. When I include it all, it brings me back to what's real and what's not real. When I include all I'm operating from that state of neutrality and just like, okay, so two nights ago, I got into an emotional state, right? I was just hit with like, it just felt like, it was like a childhood thing that came up and, you know, it shows up right present where you are. And you're like, I thought I was an adult five minutes ago and now I'm literally crying. And I, you know, I feel like an eight-year-old, right? Well, in that moment, I was like, this is not real. It's not real. I went outside in the backyard and I just emotionally just, I just let it all go. But I knew I was still the observer and I wasn't actually, this is strange. I don't even know because you know so much about nervous system and emotions and all that. It was really my first time experiencing where I wasn't, I was experiencing myself, but I wasn't experiencing the emotion. I was watching the emotion go through and I was knowing it's not real. It's not real. I had to keep coming back to it, but it was almost like I was still the self in the emotion. And what it's done on the other side of it, and as I said, this happened two nights ago, is it's given me an additional layer of confidence that I can figure out anything. So that energy of feeling almost like the self watching the emotion, I experienced this a lot in our deep imagining meditations where we essentially have people bring up a safe person. It could be themselves. It could be an older version of selves. They visualize some sort of archetype to represent the energy that you're talking about, the observer energy. And then they bring forth the part of them that is moving through the emotional experience. And we have this moment where you kind of look at them and you attune to them and you're like, tell me everything, like what's going on? And I'll have this in there where I can feel a part of me is sobbing and so sad and just distressed. And then another part of me is like holding her so gently and just like, you got this, it's okay. I mean, it's in her parenting work, but it's also a way to relate to our emotional experiences without getting flooded by them, without attaching to them. And I think that state of processing through in that way where you can hold two selves even in your mind's eye and in your conscious awareness really does something for the psyche where you're, you see like, wow, I am the competent in a lot of nervous system works. Sarah Baldwin talks about this, but like the competent parent, there is a part of you that's like, wow, I'm the competent parent. I can actually hold myself through whatever's happening and coming up. I mean, it's so, so beautiful, the alchemy of all of it. And I think it also connects you back to the oneness of everything. If you can have this experience within yourself in a meditation or a moment of stillness and sit with multiple parts of your consciousness, you just automatically are like, of course, we're all connected. How could we not be? How could energy that we're connected with between the tree outside and the person out there? How could all of our energy not be connected if I can have this experience just even within me and myself? Yeah, well, you know, when you just talked about the two selves, so that's really, we could even say that's the two rooms and the, the illusionary self, it's not darkness, it's lack of light. When that goes away, it can't be anything else but one. It's really quite fascinating how we think we're all individually going through this, and we're all going through these things that are so significantly ours and so special and all of that when really it's like, if we just realize that most people are going through a version of it, we're all going through the dropping of the illusionary self. Every time we do that, we go through that process that you're wonderfully taking people through, they are becoming more of who they are. The real self, the source would not need the answers, would not need the, would not need all of that. And we can feel that like when a child is born, like you can feel that there's so much love in the room that nothing else exists. So we felt it, but we can actually feel that and we can apply that everywhere and not needing to not only rely on people as the answers, but if we can bring money into that and not rely on the world for money. How powerful would we be? That's really what, what causes us to be controlled is the fact that for survival, we need money. But if we see it that way and we see that really our expansion into greater consciousness is exactly the same as financial freedom. And if we saw those as the same, then all we're doing is we're getting ourselves more independent and the more independent that we are, the less that we're going to need. Like, why is it not our goal that we want to actually be cut? We want to cut our ties with the economy and the system, so to speak. And in order to do that, we have to get ourselves to a certain level. I guess a great question for all of us is why is that not the most important thing? I mean, just noticing human behavior, it is a paradigm shift that no one has seen and has no example for and doesn't know what it is and what it looks like and how they survive in that and the fear is flooded. Even as I intellectualize and sit with it and I'm like, okay, yeah, let's say money doesn't exist tomorrow. That's not a currency we trade on. What would happen to the world? How would people spend their time? You still need to trade for things, right? Like, someone would have to build your home. They wouldn't come and do that for free. So what exchange would it be? Would you take your services and apply that and trade the services for services? I don't know. I don't know what that system looks like. I have no idea. But I guess to the point of the two rooms is like, can you allow yourself to start allowing some of that, the scalphooting of the old to drop off without even knowing what it's moving into without having the full picture, without having expanders to be like, don't worry, I've done this. This is how it looks. Yeah. Well, you know, I, like I have full certainty. I know I use that word a lot, but it's literally like, it's such a powerful, you can get all your energy, find something. I have full certainty that I can trade my energetic currency or whatever form of abundance I want. I think all we're doing is we're just going through a transmutation of energy and we're choosing and a lot of people don't feel worthy to choose more financial abundance or a lot of people, they feel like they're going to have to do something or give something up, right? And so that is the not choosing of it, right? So that's fine. Everybody is, money is meeting them exactly where they are on their frequency. It's just they don't really realize that they're, that they're asking for that. I think probably what I would say fits in the new paradigm, if we're going to replace the old, then I would say we could replace the old financial system. If we were to take on the belief that we go out and we trade our energetic currency and it is an indirect relationship as to the abundance that comes back to us, I send out an invite. So I create space for it. I create a company or people come in and they can learn. I do these things, but then after that, it's really, it's not up to me. What's up to me is to be certain that I trade my energetic currency. Now, I don't want to leave it at that though. And this is very kind of parallels you, you having people kind of go one step further, right? With what you do. I don't want to leave it at that because then I'm always at the mercy, if you will, of someone coming in and making a decision in order for money to come into that space. So what I do is I elevate my responsibility to, I take a portion of that money and I expand it, which is how I retired in the first place. I basically took money and I just said, okay, every dollar that comes in, I'm going to expand that. A lot of people have a negative relationship with investing. It's risky here. They don't know enough. They don't have enough money. We have all these stories around it, right? So what if you just say, okay, that doesn't even belong to me anymore. Those stories are in the old world. That's like tape that doesn't stick anymore, does not stick to the new identity. So instead it's like, okay, well, the new plan, if you will, is create the invite, allow money to come in, simply expand a portion of it, repeat over, over, and over, and over again. And then you are just getting your full focus energies behind it. I think people would be absolutely just mesmerized by what would come into their life because the taking on of the new plan requires the departure from the old, the old meaning the one that doesn't work in the first place. The beauty of this concept too is that it really forces everyone to move through their authentic expression and gifts. You can't give your expression of life through the way that you only can really give it as an individual if you're busy doing what you think you need to do for money. So this really, I mean, getting ahead of the times is getting clear on what is that expression of you that you just have this joy to give. You know that this is your, your special gift and sauce, and you don't have to be perfect at it. You can just start somewhere and then build up over time. I mean, now more than ever, we have so many people writing in who are leaving jobs that were unfulfilling, that were maybe financially successful or lucrative, but their soul was empty. There's just that longing. There's that part of you that's like, there's got to be something else. My whole existence can't be to just serve in this role that feels so misaligned for me. And I think now people are starting to be like, well, okay, if I could do whatever I want, what is that? I think too, when people think about like your example with the retirement, when people visualize financial freedom, maybe a part of them wants to just lie on a beach somewhere and whatever. But as humans, we like growth. We like to create. We would get bored pretty quickly if that's all we did. I think there is a part of our soul that just wants to, to share, to build, to create. Like there is that energy that is just natural within us. And that's what we want to lean into. And if I think about my financial freedom, it's just to have no pressure on the creation that I would already be doing. It would be there's no external anything. It's just, I get to wake up and as spirit moves me, I go in and I give and create with that singular focus. That to me is financial freedom. Yes, it's, and that's beautiful. And so, so then with that definition of financial freedom, then you or anyone else that has that same thing gets to say, okay, well, now what is my level of responsibility to that? If my level of responsibility to that is a 10 out of 10, then I'm going to do everything different because now I'm going to do it from the place of money gets invited in and then I'll expand it over, over, over again, which is probably not the way being, you know, everything would have to shift. Even in small ways, even in micro ways, anything that feels like a should would shift and moving from that place of like, I fell on the trap again, like that I think I have to do this or it has to look like this or I talk about this with other podcasters all the time, but we've all just agreed that we have to release 52 episodes every week, every year, forever. This is never going to end. Like everyone's just cool with this release cycle and we just agree to it and that's the standard and we just feel like if we don't, then we're going to lose out or people will move on and that's the fear that's told, you know, every platform is like, oh, if you're down a week, like forget it, you just lost all your members and it's like, why are we operating with this fear? If we could break that even just in the podcast industry, if they could break that where people would actually release in a cycle that felt good to them, yeah, how much more enjoyable, how many more people would actually probably listen to different episodes because they're not all airing at the same time, their favorite shows, that's the paradigm I want to move into. Well, I mean, you're one of the most powerful creators out there. 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For someone who's thinking about that expanding part, how do I take money and expand it? How are you thinking about your money right now in this season and in this chapter and this economy and being living from the blue room? The same way that I always have. I really, I have kind of like a foundational way of viewing money that has just, it's never changed. It's financial freedom comes from diversification because the economy kind of presents the situation like, do you know the game musical chairs where like you're walking around and the music stops and like, do you have a chair? I kind of think of money that way in that certain assets are going to be doing well at certain times and certain assets are not going to be doing well, but you always want to make sure you have a chair whenever the music stops. And if you always make sure, if you always know you're going to have a chair, then you've gotten yourself to that financial freedom place that you described, which is you want to be able to wake up and you want to be able to do whatever you want to do. So there is a level of, if you have assets and you have them and they're well diversified, then you know, for example, well, the stock market is doing great today. Well, the real estate market isn't doing great. Well, land is increasing in value. Well, crypto's not doing great. Well, you have all of these things, then there's always something that is working for you and expanding on your behalf. That's really financial freedom to me. So I think moving into us designing our portfolios, our money portfolios with creativity, being behind like, okay, well, I'm interested in this. And so I'm going to put a little more of this. But at the same time, not having to have the entire investment portfolio be all like a reflection of your identity either. See, that's where I see a lot of people get into trouble. They're like, I want everything to be socially conscious. I want everything to be something that I agree with and my values to symbolize. I love that. But everything in your pantry is not organic. And you're, you're cool with that. There can be almost like too much of a this is my identity. The way that I look at it is I'm like, let is let's put wealth into the hands of those who are conscious. I mean, people going to your program are gaining in their consciousness. Let's make these people wealthy. And you know what? So what if they're investing a little bit over here that because you never know to with companies that could change management and all of a sudden it's not the most ethical company, right? Do the best you can. But keep putting wood on that fire. Keep going out, getting that money, inviting it in and expanding it. Because we out here would like you who are conscious to be the ones that have all the money and you're going to do something good with it. So it's going to come around that you're going to do something magnificent, no matter what you're doing really. I love there's so many things in that that I think are just so helpful and practical. But even being intuitive with the things that you decide to invest in, not having your identity or protector parts run the show of your investing. What does this say about my identity? What does your heart tell you in this moment? What feels good? Have you talked to people you trust on this topic about where you want to invest or what you want to do it with? Does that feel correct? Like what feels like truth for you in your body? Maybe this is like a crazy statement to say, but when I first opened my Roth IRA years ago, I didn't have income to hire a financial planner or anyone to do it. And I was like, I'm just going to figure out how to just do it myself. And I just started investing myself. I have no background in it. I have no business doing any of it. But I was like, okay, let me learn the basics. Let me learn the things that you can invest into that make sense over time and things I can consistently come to. I'm not going to stockpick like what are those things that are more stable, but also going to help me out long term. And I don't suggest this. I'm not a financial expert by any means. This is just what I did. Well, yeah, because you what you described, you just took it, you just took the state of doing out of it. You actually developed something that was effortless and through a process of discovery, because what you did is you were like, I don't know how to do this, but I'm going to discover how I'm going to do this. And then you probably had to keep choosing over and over because you probably ran into more walls of, well, do I know enough? And do I have money? And what if I lose this and blah, blah, blah? Like the thing is, like, you know, we talked about, you know, we mentioned already, like this concept of money is energy. There's no way that anybody believes that and then still feels like they're not going to have enough money. There's no way that anybody believes that and doesn't believe that there's more to come. Like if you're going to invest, you wouldn't see investment as risky if you believe that money was energy because go, well, wait, it sounds like everybody else is expanding money doing this. Then let me just put some over here. You'd be so willing to try things. And that's where I went back to that. We first started with that example. Go and look at what you're already doing and where are you feeling controlled? You are avoiding investing because you feel like you're going to lose money. Oh my God, literally scrap that whole process then because the market is designed to go up and down. The market is just basically an emotional conglomerate of a whole bunch of decisions. So it's supposed to do that. What you did the most beautiful thing is you bought more when it was down. Warren Buffett has made more money in down markets than he has in up markets. You did the great thing. But I guess maybe this is just how I've always thought about it. So I haven't had a block around that, oh, if I put it in, I'm going to lose it. There has just always been this, if you keep it in long enough, it'll take care of itself. And it's interesting. Investing has allowed me to bring that principle into how I make money as well. Whereas there are times when money is down or low or you're making less or things are more expensive or whatever and not immediately constricting. Like if you believe in the big picture, it will always go up eventually. It will always get to where you need it to be eventually. If that is your baseline for how you think about money, then the low points, you're not like, oh my gosh, I have to do this or I have to sell off this or I have to, you know, there's no franticness. You're like, okay, let me not do something risky and be spending way beyond my means. So if a low season, it impacts me, let me be balanced with it. But also having that implicit trust and I'm still continually, you have to feed that narrative or reinforce that narrative because we live in a world that's like, things are down, panic, scare, you know, all of the stuff. And it's like, okay, everything will, like a wave, it will come back, it will move back. And if that steady baseline is your nervous system reacting with it, there's the energy. Absolutely. And you can also, through diversification, you can also kind of buy your way out of that because the market goes down. Typically something else is going to go up. And so you can also be in celebration. Oh, the market is down, which means that things are probably on sale. And then you've got some other asset that's doing well. So when I say invite, like, I've used this couple of times inviting money in, what I really want to say by that is, are you truly creating a space where anything that happens in life can be included and can be a win-win situation? Can you be such a high level creator that when the market goes down, that is a benefit? Can you be such a high level creator that when the market goes up, you have this other asset that you can do certain things with? Like, can you actually just simply be a creator with money and then learn how to pull and push all the leverage based on kind of what you said, just how you feel? And I imagine too, it's a lot of that internal energy work to get back to that baseline. It's knowing what part of you is actually driving the decision making behind that. You had said on a podcast about you're not someone who is obsessively even coming from a trader background, you're not obsessively checking the markets and the this and the up and the down. You have that trust. You have that, I'm going to move in there at strategic times, move wealth in there, and then it does what it needs to do, having that detachment that we talk about with manifestation too. Yeah, I can feel the market. And I think that anyone who is intuitive, if you really, really just, it's going back to that space that you described. If you can calmly just literally connect with the market, which you can't until you're not going, you're going to hold something way out here at an arm's length distance if you feel like it's a risk. And so there's a lot of benefit to changing your relationship with investing in the market because once you bring that in, and I see people be able to do this very quickly too, once you bring that in, you can feel what's temporary, what's not temporary, you know, in April of last year when the whole, all the stuff about the tariffs came out, I was like, there's a temporary nature to this. I can feel this. And so I ended up investing a lot of money. That was my biggest investment month, April. Now, I'm not saying that I have a crystal ball. What I'm saying is that I make decisions for me based on things that I can feel. And you can also, when you're clear and you're in neutrality, and I believe that this is actually the future intelligence is you can read patterns. And we think, okay, well, we have AI coming in and that's going to read all the patterns, not necessarily like being able to put 85 patterns together is not superior to being able to do what Warren Buffett did like back in the 70s when he was playing bridge and he saw a cart rolled and had Coca-Cola on it and how excited people got with Coca-Cola and he started asking people about this product and he was like, oh, I'm going to invest in that, right? Like, you don't have to hit it out of the park on 100 things. When you're present and you can, you allow in investing, you allow in the market, you're going to see that one beautiful thing and you only need a couple of things like out of 100 financial decisions. If you can be present and knock it out of the park for five, like the Coca-Cola thing, or the people who bought Amazon at $20, like there's people who bought NVIDIA two years ago, like things like that, I think that people just feel like if they're going to invest that somehow you have to like stocks, which you don't necessarily, you don't have to love checking the market, you don't have to check the market. What part of the market are you going to creatively let it in and then let it become part of you and your magical energy and then leave the rest? That's a really good investor and I think that's the future investor. It's so clear to just even looking at it like Warren Buffett wasn't just reading patterns that were on a data sheet, he was reading energy. He could feel the energy of the people resonating with this and he saw, okay, if this small pool was resonating in this way, that at scale is going to do what? I think that is something else for the new paradigm is like our ability to read energy that is a felt sense of energy from someone else where we're like, I'm locked in, I'm resonating with this person. I don't even have to know about their credentials, their history. I just feel a resonance with them. That's something AI can't take from us. It's something that can't read, it can't report to us, it can't feel. It's not that type of being. So I think that will become more widely expressed in us as part of our superpower as human beings. I agree with you and I think that it elevates why the time is now that people are doing this type of work, the type of work that we're talking about that you're teaching. I think it's also, it really, really elevates why people must get financial independence and I do not say that from a place of fear, although someone could say that. I say that from a place of responsibility that if you know you have a gift, then can you be responsible that until you get yourself to a certain level of independence, you're always going to be sort of pulled back into this, this demonetized control like it or not. We don't even have to have an opinion about it really. You're always just because of the nature of the 3D world until you get yourself to a certain level of independence. It's hard for you to use the tools in the 3D world. Instead, the tools end up using you. I love reframing that financial freedom looks so different for everyone, but that that is our responsibility. It's in our integrity as someone who's conscious to figure that out, to seek that out, to work with it, to have that focus on it for a chapter of our life or a season in order to get that to a level that is fueling us. We can focus on the work that's most important without the 3D programming operating within us. Yeah, exactly. I think we need to ask ourselves, why do we not see independence with money exactly as we see eating well, exactly as we see sleep? Like we know that. We've bought into the fact that we're responsible. We came here in this body, in this world, and we're responsible for that. So if we know that we literally dropped into a 3D world where we are going to experience an element of control just because of our own survival needs, why does that not qualify as the same thing? When we start to bring it in that way, then what we do is we create our own new language for it, and then it elevates in terms of its importance. We become the self-expression of that, and we can then operate from the blue room. We can't operate from the blue room if we're not willing to be responsible for it, and we're stuck in, oh, money is evil, or I don't need money to do good things in the world, blah, blah, blah. Like all of that is old world, and there's an element of conditioning in that, that somebody was benefiting from you, not believing that financial independence would be huge for you to set you free. So good. So good. Where can people find you, work with you, hear more, your podcast, everything? Yes, the spiritualinvestor.com. So that talks about all the programs, that talks about the Mastermind and then the Asseig club, and the podcast, the spiritual investor. I say those are probably the best places. Instagram is just Elizabeth Ringlef. So wherever, if you have any questions or, I mean, this stuff is, I feel like it's just one of those things that comes into people's worlds, just like the stuff that you talk about and teach that like, people think it takes time, people think it takes even money, it doesn't, it really takes your acceptance of it. Honestly, are you ready? Is it better question than do I have time? Like, are you ready? How serious are you about putting your gifts out into the world, and are you ready to set the stage? And can you imagine what the stage looks like when you don't really need the world anymore? Like, how powerful will you be? You don't need someone to make a decision on your behalf so that you can put food on the table. Thank you for everything you do, what you're sharing, how you're expressing your essence in this season, in this chapter, in this lifetime, and just even the message of it is our responsibility to be financially free can just liberate so many people. So thank you. Thank you for this and having this conversation. We knew this conversation would be powerful. I'm going to get it. So thank you for co-creating this. Oh, so much to digest in this one. It's one that I know I'm going to have to listen to a few times to just allow things to sink in deeper and really understand practically what applying the energetics that we talked about in this episode would look like. But here are some tools if you want to get started. First and foremost, I highly recommend our seven-day nervous system reset. It hits on so many different areas of the nervous system to really come back to baseline. And when you get back to baseline, when you can feel what it feels like to truly be in your body, when you're not in scarcity, you're not in fight or flight, that's when you can have a higher perspective on your finances, abundance, your career, your livelihood, whatever you're doing from a clear, authentic perception. And then the second thing I recommend is our how to manifest money challenge. It's a three-week challenge, but you can even just pick a few exercises in there and start to understand what is the programming and fears that's really running the show that's making these financial fears of scarcity or plain small or old ways of being pop up. That's getting in the way of me seeing a different route to the financial freedom that feels authentic for you. I hope you guys enjoyed this episode and we will see you next week.