Meet the mythical man-eating beast of Australia

You're listening to Pet Candy. Welcome to our new show Obsessed, a show where we talk about whatever it is we're currently obsessed with. I'm Caitlin Palmer. I'm Clay. And we're Obsessed. Hey everybody, how's your week going? We're not proud of ourselves because we just spent 30 minutes watching a cat play in a bag and I have no regrets. And I was getting on the table like he knows he's not supposed to. Uh-huh. There's always a third party when we record and it's Orville the clinic cat. He's iconic. Yeah, pretty much any background noise you hear is Orville. Pretty much. Doing something is not supposed to. Like being on the table right now. Like being on the table right now. So Clay, you've got a story for me. Tell me. Do I? Yes. Yeah, I guess I do. Maybe you've heard about this. Okay. But the largest Python ever found in Florida has just been found. Oh, how big is it? It's a new record. 18 feet long and weighs over 200 pounds. Oh my gosh. And that is straight muscle too. Yeah, it's a Burmese Python and it's the largest one ever seen in Florida. They've actually been using male pythons to lure out these gargantuan female pythons to try to cut down on their population. Unfortunately, they can do some pretty bad damage. I guess they do eat dogs and cats and that's not okay. So was it a wild Python or was it? Yeah, no, they're not like native to Florida. They were introduced in the 70s. Basically, people getting these as pets and then turning them loose. I think they're sad. Well, they do really well in the Florida environment. I guess that's true. So they've been doing a little too well and it's upsetting the balance. So, you know, they'll typically eat birds, small mammals, as well as the occasional alligator or pet dog, like you said. Oh. Yeah, this one, they lure it out with a male Python that they have attached to GPS locator to. And when they noticed that he just picked an area to chill in for a while, they're like, okay, well, we know what this is about. Right. So there's a big fun woman. They sweep in there and they took out the snake. Yeah, they are disproportionately capable of producing many offspring. Or babies. They use the male as bait to draw out these large females. It makes me feel some kind of way. Yeah, there's a picture of like all the the eggs that were inside of her. I'm trying to see if there's a number. It doesn't look like there is. It's just dozens. Oh, no. I would never mind. It says 122 of these follicles, which are your egg follicles. Whoa, that's so cool. Yeah, it looks like a like a pilar cyst when you pop it and it comes out in one piece. Gross. Love it. I guess we could put that on the Instagram. Yeah, that'd be good. But alongside the record, 122 egg follicles, they also found in the snake digestive tract bits of fur, clumps of dissolved bone, a chunk of a hoof. A hoof? A hoof. They know what kind of hoof? Yeah, they believe it was once attached to an adult white tailed deer. Holy s***. Yeah. Well, that's pretty scary. But my topic had me revisit some childhood trauma. Oh, you're doing the Tupecabra again? Yeah, Tupecabra part two. Tupecabra. No. Okay. Well, since I can't do my original idea, which was Tupecabra, I'm going to do something a little different. So as a child, I was obsessed with kangaroos. So naturally, when I found a movie at the rental place, yes, that's a real thing. Stranger Things didn't make that up. Yeah, they did used to exist. They really did. You would go in, you'd pick a movie. It was like they'd have the cover and then they'd have the actual movie behind it. And it was in like the cassette tape with the like logo of whatever the movie place was. So Stranger Things didn't make that up. That's a real thing. And as old people remember. So found a movie with a kangaroo on the cover. I begged my mom to rent it. I think we ended up keeping it way longer than we were supposed to because I'd watch it over and over and over again. It was no jungle book, but it was still one of my favorite movies. This movie was called Dot and the Kangaroo. It's a children's movie based on a book of the same name by Ethel C. Peddly. It's about a little girl named Dot who gets lost in the Australian Outback and is found by a red kangaroo. It should be noted that this fun 70s film is unusual and that the backgrounds are all live action, but the characters and the animals are animated. So it's like a live action background, like a real tree, real river, whatever, but the characters. So then there's like a little animated kangaroo and a little girl. So it's very different. It's unusual in that sense. The kangaroo lost her joey and takes Dot into her pouch and helps her find her way home. Along the way, Dot and the kangaroo meet some crazy looking animals. They enjoy several jaunty songs, but things change when they get to a water hole. The kangaroo wants Dot to always be quiet when by the watering hole. There's a terrible storm and they take shelter in a cave that's been abandoned because humans dare not go there. They were afraid of the bunyip. The stories told through cave paintings that come to life and reenact the story. The tribesmen fishing by the billabong when suddenly there's a monstrous roar and a large being with a long neck covered in fur rises from the water. The ensuing song scared me so badly as a child. So here's the lyrics and they're very simple, but I'll just gotta listen to it. Google the bunyip song Dot and the kangaroo. The bunyip is very bad. The bunyip is very bold. And let me tell you that the bunyip is now about a thousand years old. So you'd better come home quickly and you'd better hide very soon or the bunyip's going to get you in the bunyip moon. The bunyip's partly animal. The bunyip's partly bird. The bunyip makes the strangest sound that you've ever heard. But the occult of the abyss was real and I couldn't stop thinking about it. My brother would sing it to me and then get in trouble for scaring me even though I begged him to sing it to me. So I'm promising that I wouldn't get scared. This is a core childhood memory unlocked. Yeah, I remember you telling me about this particular thing, how we'd sing the song to you. And when you talked about kangaroos, I was like, oh, yes, the bunyip. Yes, you do. I knew where you were going as soon as you started. You did, you did. And I've been trying. I rewatched Dot and the kangaroo and let me just say it totally destroyed me again as a human being. Dot and the kangaroo. Oh God. We'll be right back with more Pet Candy. Here's something fascinating I realized while taping this podcast. There are compelling and downright mysterious medical cases that happen every day in veterinary hospitals all across the country. And most of the time, the unsung heroes that help these animals never get a chance to talk about them and you never hear their stories until now. This podcast, Vet Mysteries with Dr. Courtney takes a deep dive into some of the strangest medical cases. And we meet the incredible veterinary teams that help to save these pets lives. If you like a little bit of mystery, a ton of intrigue, and love pet health like I do, this podcast is for you. I'm Dr. Courtney and you can subscribe and listen to this podcast for free on Vet Candy Radio or anywhere you listen to podcasts. Fun fact, if you Google images of Dot and the kangaroo, you get some weird art. So just take that as you will and be careful when you Google anything. Please turn your safe search on. Please turn your safe search on. So we all know Australia is infamous for having all kinds of critters who would like nothing better than to eat you. Some say that's where Satan keeps his pets. Now, Australia, once known as New South Wales, was originally planned as a penal colony. So when you were bad and you weren't acceptable to society anymore, they were just like, here, just go to that little island over there. Right. If you survive, great. Yeah, there's actually a large amount of Australia's shoreline. It's just kind of like sheer rock cliff. Right. Well, they didn't want you to get back out. You're in Australia for a reason, bro. So I got a lot of my information from an awesome documentary by Swamp Dweller. I love Swamp Dweller. He's my favorite. So it's called Australia's Most Feared Cryptid, the Bunyip. You should definitely go check it out. It's only scary because all the things that aren't cryptids are animals we know about that just live in Australia. Oh yeah, no, Australia has just some straight up, yeah. Yeah, the Bunyip's more than likely true just based on the things that it's surrounded by. Exactly. And we're going to get, I mean, spoiler alert, the platypus is a real animal. The Bunyip is not that far-fetched. And it actually, it's a true cryptid because technically a cryptid is an animal or creature that could exist, but we don't really know if it exists. Now the Bunyip does potentially have some proof, maybe. Maybe. So we're gonna, we're gonna get, we're gonna get there Clay. God. So according to Aboriginal folklore, there's a creature lurking in the swamps, bogs, and billabongs, which fun fact, a billabong is a pond, in Southeast Australia, just waiting to gobble up any livestock, women or children who come too close to the water's edge. Other names are, and I apologize, I'm probably going to butcher these names. Other names for the same creature, Timbunton, Melianawak, Megalawak, Ketanapai, Ketanpati, and Waui, not Yawi, but they are sometimes mistaken for one another. Yawi is kind of like the Australian Bigfoot. Okay. But they're, they're not like, they're similar. Some people kind of use the terms interchangeably, but technically the Bunyip is a separate creature. I could make a joke right now, but I won't. I know. I know what you're thinking. Fellow nerds, you know, you know, you're in on this. There are various descriptions of this creature. They're countless and they're very, very varying. Most sources agree it's an amphibian like with a round head, long neck, body like a hippopotamus, manatee or an ox. Some say it has feathers. Some say it's as big as a horse or as small as a dog. Some sources say it has apricot eyes. When I think apricot eyes, I think kind of like dead fish eyes, like that just kind of milky, creamy. See, you know what I'm picturing? What? It's actually like really small irises that tend to glow in the dark that like pale orange. Oh, I like that too. Some describe it as a cross between a seal or a hippo, but others say it's more reptilian with a dog like face. Kind of sounds like a seal question mark. Does Australia have seals? Well, we're kidding there. But the most popular, according to Google, and this is the only place I found it was one place. So I'm not really sure if it's the most popular, but they say it looks like a giant starfish. So these are all very, very different things, but the earliest sightings say it had countless eyes, sharp claws, and was helifast. Some say it has one large eye on its head. This may come back later. Like a catapult pass? And a mouth on its stomach. The name does translate the name Bunyip. Does translate to devil or evil spirit, although later translations are more like an imposter or a pretender. I remember the first time I ever heard of a Bunyip was in the D&D Bestiary. Yes. It's a pretty, I guess, well-known entry in there, but I was like, that's a stupid name. And then I looked at the picture and I was like, that's a stupid monster. Oh. Because it pretty much just looked like a pissed-off manatee. Yeah. Well, okay, if that had been my first experience with the Bunyip. Right, of course. But I'm going to make you watch this video because it creeped me out. It's really great. Did it do the same thing that like the old Rankin and Bass Hobbit did with like the birds and the tree song or whatever, where the goblins are hunting down the hobbits? They talk about burning the trees. It's so much worse than that. Clay, like, Dot and the kangaroo are in an abandoned cave and the kangaroo straight up tells her like, no, no, like people don't come here anymore. Be very quiet. And she's like, but why? And the kangaroo is like, shut the f*** up. It's like there's cave paintings and you know, like they're like the stylized kind of stick people. They come to life and like they start dancing. Right. So like they're telling the story. Like they're telling the story and like the Bunyip rises out of the water and it's very simple. But as a, I'll just have to show you, just so much, so much emotional damage. But some sources say this creature is more bipedal. So standing up on two legs, more of a human appearance. Some even describe it as a half person, half frog with reeds for hair, which I think sounds kind of cute. Well, that sounds actually like a Japanese creature called the kappa. Oh, I know the kappa. Yeah, they kind of like got like the frog features. They sometimes have a shell in their back, like a beak for a mouth. Yes. Love it. They are horrendous. Okay, so not to look at, but like just what they do in the lore, like they're just like, they just like scuttle into like large groups into like a village and just steal children and murder people in their beds and stuff. Oh, that sounds right. That's pretty on par. So like I said, there's many different variations of this cryptid there and they range vastly. One factor to explain all the differences could be just the different tribes. Before white people settled, there were over 250 different languages. That was England's fault. That ain't on us this time. Yeah, well, we're going to talk about some settlers, but there were over 250 different languages. So I mean, obviously there's going to be some issues with translation. Yeah. Among that many languages, you know, which is probably why it has so many names similar to the Wendy Go, how it had so many names. So many names. So an author named Robert Holden identified nine regional variations of the bunny up across Aboriginal Australia. Like many monsters, your boy has a taste for human flesh, especially that of women and children, the tastiest flesh, the tastiest flesh of women and children and announced this to the world with a booming and roaring sound. Thus the stay away from the water. This particular detail stays pretty constant. It's loud. It makes huge noises. You know, it's there. And there's a lot of different theories as to why this is. Could it be our original fear of of storms of big noises? I mean, there's all kinds of things it could be. It's often described with long, wicked claws, but would typically kill its prey by hugging it to death. Oh, yeah. So it would like just eat you right away. It would kind of constrict like that python, even though the bunny was considered a malign creature. Killing one was taboo. There was an escape prisoner. He spent a lot of time with the Aboriginal people and claims to have had many encounters. He considered killing a bunny up and using the skeleton and hide as proof. It would probably have also made him a very rich man, but decided against it. Mainly because that would piss off his gracious hosts and they would likely kill him for bringing the wrath of the bunny up down on their people. So apparently if you hurt or kill a bunny up, you'll die a painful death. Die a violent death. Die a violent death. So to them, it was either an evil spirit or a vengeful one sent to punish the wicked. Some say the bunny up is supernatural and can cause illness. Things like dizziness and crippling. So like not being able to walk, having trouble with your legs. It can also change the water level and it can hypnotize you into becoming its slave. According to a thought catalog, great website. Definitely check that out. Legend says that a man named Bunyup once broke the rainbow serpent's greatest law by eating his totem animal. After that, he was banished and transformed into an evil spirit that lured tribesmen and their animals into the water to eat. And would occasionally give you polio. Yeah, and would occasionally give you polio, as one does. But I thought that was kind of cool. We'll be right back with more Pet Candy. I love my fur babies so much. But when they're stressed out, it makes me stressed out. Mine hate loud noises like thunderstorms and fireworks. 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And after that, he was banished and transformed into an evil spirit who would lure tribesmen and their animals to a watery grave. So the Bitten Marsh bird, I think we talked about it before, it's a little bird, makes a big noise, kind of sounds scary and hick and awful. Don't care for that. So Charles Finner has a quote that I really enjoyed. The Bunyup is actually the result of non-coastal aboriginals encountering the seals that made their way inland via the Murray of Darling Rivers. Unusual proportions could be attributed to the exaggerations and distortion through repeated retellings of the encounters, kind of like the telephone game. So like I saw Bunyup and it was this big. Well, I saw Bunyup and it was even bigger. Yeah, well, the description you talked about earlier, being like having like a hippo body or something. These like sort of non-descript, blubbery round shapes. Yeah, that fits a seal pretty good. And some of these like a dog face and a long neck. Well, yeah, a seal on it or a seal. They can make quite a noise. They do make a quite a noise and they're uncommon, but they are, you do see them sometimes. Yeah. But if it's not a common thing, you've never seen it before, you don't know how to describe it. I mean, you're going to come up with some crazy proportions. Yeah. But the aboriginals were not stupid. Get her done. Living off of the land and the ability to identify dangerous animals is part of why they were successfully thriving for more than 30,000 years before the invasion of, you guessed it, white people. Get her done. I'm going to get like a soundboard. Yes. Okay. Side note, Dr. Jill, soundboard. For white people. For white people. Get her done. I'm going to take that part in the opening for death note that just sounds like he's screaming white people. Yeah. Love it. It's just the result of us hearing an English word that sounds like something. Right. Or a Japanese word that sounds like an English word. But it sounds like he's like white people. White people. Most of our documented information about this cryptid started in the 1800s, which also coincides with the colonization in quotes. Now, it needs to be mentioned that indigenous Australians are known to have coexisted with creatures that are now extinct. One example is the, I'm going to butcher this. I'm so sorry. Zygometrist trilobus, which was basically a bull-sized wombat. A bull-sized wombat? Yeah. Yeah. Essentially. Like a prehistoric, huge, bull-sized wombat. Holy shit. Fun fact, wombat poop squares. Yeah. I heard about that. Yeah. It's just one of my favorite things that the Dr. Shenz taught me, my Bondi vet friends. They're amazing. But it's possible that stories of these creatures survived over the generations. And even though maybe the animals died out, the stories stayed alive. Yeah. In 1818, New South Wales, there was an accidental discovery by Hamilton human James Meehan. They came across some unusual bones. They said that the scattered bones looked for all the world like a hippopotamus or a manatee, but insisted they were something else. For some dumb ass reason, they did not bring the remains home with them. Instead, I guess they just left them. I'm like, damn, those are cool bones. Yeah, those are really cool. Anyway, we should get home. My mom said we got to be back before I can start. Hey, Hugh, ask your mom if you can stay over. No, no, no. You ask her. She'll say yes. She'll say yes to you. But word got out that there may have been bones of a bunyep. So PESA, which is the Philosophy of Education Society of Australasia, offered to pay the expenses for Hamilton to go back and retrieve the skeleton for further investigation. But he was unable to because of failing health. But I'm thinking, what about James? Why couldn't James go get it? Yeah, James. Yeah, James. So bring back indisputable proof of the bunyep. Right. Yeah, like you ruined this for a lot of people, James. How does that make you feel? You suck. Nobody talked to James. I don't think that'll be hard. I would be like 200 years old by this point. Nobody leave out offerings for James. So, so unfortunately, I'm going to bust out the Ouija board and give him a piece of my mind. Don't do that. So unfortunately, this discovery faded to legend. But in 1846, there was a very unusual skull that was found in the Murumbiji River, briefly displayed as a bunyep skull. But it was later determined to be a malformed full or a calf. It was a psychoptic skull. The jaw was deformed. I mean, if you didn't know what it was, you'd see that go, that's a monster skull. Right. Yeah. But it was just a little bit of a calf. Well, kind of like elephant skulls are probably where we got the idea of cyclops existing. Because if you Google an elephant skull, it looks like there should be one giant eye that goes in the middle of them. It really, truly does. Well, you think about it, your nose is all cartilage. Yeah. And I guess muscle. There are a lot of nose. Yeah. There's a lot of nose on an elephant. Right. Right. Have you ever, oh, I don't know. Do boys bathrooms have the, well, I guess they, okay, this is stupid. I was going to ask Clay if boys bathrooms have the things where you can hang your purse up, but at least in South Mississippi, I doubt that they do. But it always looked to me like an elephant skull. But I digress. No, I don't think they did have those. I guess I'd have to check again. Next time, okay, next time I see one, I'm going to take a picture and send it to you. Okay. Because it really like the hook that you put your purse up on or whatever. Well, they don't have those, but they do have these like hoops that attach to the wall that you can put your footballs in. Oh, Nito. Yeah. They don't have that in the girls bathroom. Yeah. They just give us tampons. Stupid. So there is the possibility that the bunyip is maybe rooted in truth. The Chasselian bunyip. Long ago, they say a bunyip was allegedly a bunyip was slain by Aboriginal people. The outline of the dead beast was traced in the turf. And you can look at pictures of this. It's called the Chasselian bunyip. It kind of just looks like a little simple rawr dinosaur. Like it has like a long, like it has a long deck and two little legs and you wouldn't see, but it's huge. So the people continued every year they would re-outline it for several years to keep it from fading away. Drawings of the outline put the creature at approximately 28 feet from the tip of his nose to the tip of his tail. So it was huge. Now you have to think though, if they're tracing it every year, that line's probably going to get a little thicker every time. Maybe. But not that. You know what I mean? Like this was still whatever they traced was huge. Right. So drawings of the outline, you like said, put it to 28 feet, tip to tip. The outline was preserved for quite a while, but eventually guess who came along and colonized Clay? The UK. Yes, correct. So good. The outline was fenced off for a short while. So there was like the tiniest endeavor to say that. This is weird. Can we make money off of this? No? All right. Well, yeah. It's like, oh, that's so cool. Look, this, this is, this is an amazing part of these people's culture. But you know what? Anyway, you know, it'd be good here. A continent size prison. Yeah. Let's put a shopping mall here where the bunyip used to be. But no, they, it actually became some grazing land for sheep. So now it's lost forever. At least there were some sheep. I do like sheep. We love a sheep. Could it be a diprotodon? It's related to the marsupial lion, which looks an awful lot like a bunyip to me. A marsupial lion? Yeah, it's called a marsupial lion. It kind of looks like a big seal monster. They're really, really cool. So I mean, it's possible that it's a throwback to prehistoric time just because we say something that extinct doesn't mean there's not one hiding. It's unlikely. It's Google an image of marsupial lion. He's got to look up the marsupial lion. Hold on. My brain is running wild. I'm going to do a pause. So it's like a rat cat. Yeah, it looks like a rat cat. It's pretty cool. I like him. I would have one. I don't think I can, though. I think they're all dead. Oh no. Yeah. And Australia has some weird animals. They really do. There's a beast mentioned in Brazil known as the pedigari, which is a giant bipedal sloth like animal that lives by waterholes. Now, see, not too long ago, there was a giant sloth. Yeah. There definitely was. And when you think about the long claws, it's kind of lumber-y. It's got kind of a big body. Yeah. Although Brazil is quite a distance from Australia. Some might would even say on the other side of the world. Some would say. Some would say. But the absence of evidence does not necessarily mean evidence of absence. Australia is huge. It's 4.7 million square miles. Yeah. You kind of forget how big Australia is. Australia is vast. It's that same like flat map thing. Right. And then you look at it on the globe and you're like, oh, dang. Right. Like Australia is pretty big. Yeah. Australia is something. Really empty. There's not a lot of human presence in Australia. Yeah. I mean, there's lots of humans there, obviously. But like a lot of that land is still wilderness. There's still a lot of wood. Exactly. Yeah. There's still a lot of uncharted territory. Because it is difficult to live in Australia. It is. It is. Australian listeners, we love you. What's it like? I think Australia sounds magical. Yeah. And hot. Well, maybe magical. I get what I think. Magical, I think New Zealand. Yeah, that's true. New Zealand. It's, to me, it's the kangaroos. I love kangaroos. Yeah, kangaroos are cool. But apparently Australians really hate those things. Well, you know, apparently over there, they're like, rats are here. They're just kind of vermin. Yeah. But I also love rats. Yeah, I guess that's fair too. Love rats. I mean, we had our little encounter with the kangaroos and they were pretty cool. That was so cool. They mainly just wanted treats and I get it. They did, but I got to pet them. That's another story. So, I mean, but think about it. Actually, like looking how their hands and stuff work. Yeah, they have little hands. They're so cool. So, I mean, the platypus is a real thing. Yeah. God's mistake, I call it. No. I like to imagine it's like putting all these animals together is like, okay, and this will have like this special thing. But he's like, okay, this will have this special thing and this will have this special thing, you know, like for it to fit in its ecosystem. Like, oh, well, these beavers, I'll give them these tails and like teeth that are going to help them chew down stuff and make these homes out of. And then it was just like, I got all these spare parts left. Right. It's like, I'll make a platypus. And it's like, there it is. It's like, took a handful of sprinkles and threw it at something. Right. And then, and then he looked over and he's like, oh, no, I had like a basic body type left. I could put some stuff on. It's like, well, I guess that's the manatee then. Right. Oh, the manatee. And the dugong is like an even more simplified manatee. But yeah, the platypus is real. In fact, when a taxidermied specimen was sent to England, they thought it was a hoax. So this is even back in, yeah. So this is even back when people believed a monkey and a fish. So together was a mermaid. They were like, no, this is a pig. I mean, a platypus is a mammal that lays eggs. Exactly. And has a poison stinger. That was also in my notes. And the, you know, the bill of a duck and the tail of a beaver. And it's just like, this is ridiculous. You know, this is a straight up cryptid, this platypus thing. Yeah, you're lying to me. Now, so we've talked about how scary and big and mean the bunyep is. But there's a few, and there's only a few descriptions that say the bunyep is a timid plant eating creature that shies away from humans. The bunyep of Berkeley Creek is a beloved children's story. And a bronze statue of the whimsical creature smiles his silly smile with his bandana bag thrown over his shoulder outside of the library. And Melbourne, Australia. That statue they're talking about has like a little duck bill or like a bird beak sort of thing. Kind of. Like he's got like elongated lips. I was gonna say, because I think I saw that. That actually looks a lot like a capo. We were talking about earlier, the Japanese creature. It says, I think he's cute. But in my opinion, they knew the bunyep was scary AF. And since it's possibly extinct anyway, why scare the children? No, terrify the children. They must know fear. We must teach our children fear. This is why they're so disrespectful with their video games. How can we expect any other animals to go extinct if our children aren't filled with feet? Oh no. Kill the beast. For children. But for real though, everybody, can we just talk about how great Brave Paws is? We got a free sample. We did. We're going to be completely transparent with you. We did. We got some free stuff and it works. Yeah. I was a little surprised. Like I'm not going to lie. You get this stuff and it's, doesn't really seem like a typical pet treat, right? Right. But we gave it to our pets and they gobbled them right up. They do. They do. And it's nice because it's like you give so many pills per pound. So you don't have to buy like three different sizes. You know, our little guy gets a half of one. Our big one gets three. Right. And he loves it. He takes them like a treat. Now, being plant-based, you're kind of like, ooh, are they going to like it? Right. That's what I'm saying. It's like, it's dry and sort of leafy. And it, like I said, it just doesn't, normally when you get a pet treat, it's kind of like moist and squishy. But you know, they don't usually eat those, I found. Well, as because ours are extremely picky, which is why it was so surprising. They ate these. Exactly. All, and we got, we got more than one dog. We're going to be for real with y'all. But they eat it and they eat it well. Yeah. And it worked. It does. We live in the Deep South, AKA Satan's armpit, and it storms and rains at least once a week. Like at least once a week, we're under some kind of watch, like a hurricane watch. That's a Tuesday. And our dogs are weenies. So when it starts like with the lightning and the rain and everything, they freak out. So they do. They do. We really put these to the test. Right. And I did not think that they would work like they did. Exactly. As well as they do. And this is a non-prescription. You don't have to go to the vet and get it. It's not going to knock them out. It's not a sedative. It's just a calming support. And it does. We had lightning hit very close to our house. Within a mile. It rattled our windows. It was scary. I was even scared. I love bad weather. And we gave everybody their happy pills and they put the brave paws on and everybody laid down and went to sleep. And it was fine. Yeah. So like we don't have to do this part of the commercial. Right. Like we've done the ad read and we've goofed around. But like this is we wouldn't lie to you. We would at least not record this part if it didn't work and we didn't actually. Exactly. And we're both in the animal industry. And we have been for years and years. So we would not tell you about a product if we did not believe in it ourselves. Yeah. It absolutely worked for us. So maybe it'll work for you. Go check it out. My brave paws dot com. Go put your brave paws on. Brave paws give your pet the courage they need to weather the storm. So that's the bunny up. Now I feel like if I had researched this prior to being an impressionable young child I would think he's cute because I kind of think he's cute. But if that movie scared me so bad. Yeah. There's a lot of different depictions of the bunny up and they're all pretty different. Wildly. Yeah. Wildly different both in like size and body structure and that whole thing. But if you remember I'm pretty sure I mentioned it in the Kelpie episode the bunny up just briefly. Yeah. Talking about you know like these waterborne features. Right. And it might be because of the poor descriptions but I'd also heard that bun yet to go shape shift because everything can shape shape everything in shape shift. But people think some people think that the bunny up is actually a Kelpie because of the description of like the long neck and having sort of a bull or horse like body. And a lot of art you often see them draped with you know water grass. Yeah. Which you know it's just kind of a thing for being a little pond based cryptid. You can't help but draw a little couple conclusions to a Kelpie. That's true. I mean watery grave eating you and all that stuff. As one does. As one does. Yeah. So before we go we do need to talk to you listeners about a little contest that we've been entered into and it would be the absolute world to us if you would go and vote for us. So we have been entered into the podcast awards the People's Choice podcast awards. Yay. And we would love if you would go vote for us. That would mean so much that would let's manifest. Please. Please. We are going to be so successful with this podcast and all of our endeavors and one day maybe we'll even do live shows. It's manifested. It's in the universe. Okay. Well my my thoughts on this are a little bit in opposition to your manifesto there. I was going to say there's no way we're going to win this thing. Wow. But I would like to see a numerical value of your love for us. That would be great. Yeah. If you could just validate us with numbers that'd be cool. Right. They'd be like well you didn't win. I'm like yeah yeah whatever. Let me see my numbers. Yeah but how many people liked me. Right. How many people cared. Yeah. So if you care about us. At all. At all. If you ever cared about us. Do you even. It's been a long long day. It's been a long week. Oh no we're only two days in. We'll be right back with more Pet Candy. Pet Candy Radio delivers world's class content with engaging voices and inspirational messages curated by a network of top influencers and experts. Stream 24 7 at mypetcandy.com. If you have a request of what you would like us to talk about next time. 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