Crystal Minkoff, Joey Zauzig, & Doug Budin: Joey 2.0

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You're not making it any better. You're just reminding me how late we are. I know I'm specific. I know I'm a little high maintenance, which is why I tip really fucking well. I don't want to start shit, but... Oh, really? Really? Okay. Really? Jeff Lewis has issues. Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis has issues. In today's episode, Crystal Minkoff, Joey Zauzek and Doug Buden joined the show. We recap Doug's birthday dinner and Joey defends his questionable behavior. Plus, we play another round of Spelling Bee with Joey Z. Good morning, Crystal. Morning. I had a heart attack this morning. Why? Because Annie texted me. Jeff wants to know when you're coming in. I'm so sorry. And I immediately went to our text. I literally, it's the worst feeling of not showing up live. It's so scary. I am so sorry. I was under the impression you were in the nine o'clock hour. I'm very sorry for freaking you out. Thank you. I appreciate it. I love a nine o'clock hour, too. So OK. Did you did you sleep in a little bed after last night after the stress? I did. Are you wearing last night's makeup? No. Oh, because I'm saying it looks good. Oh, thank you. Yeah. No, no, I started out. I know I have to like wash it all off. But yes, it was a lot. It was I look at Joey. Yeah, it was a lot. It was a lot. It was gorgeous to start with. It was so beautiful. The flowers are stunning. That food is unbelievable. Right. Crystal had never been before. You have never been to Barbara. Never. Every time you guys. I could not go and I had no idea what it was and it was spectacular. I literally left. I was like, wow, this is the best Italian food in LA. And you got to I agree. I introduced Crystal to Barbara. So they got to meet. Oh, she is fantastic. The food is amazing. You have to drop there. I never had that. I was like, it's like a deconstructed lasagna. It's spectacular. I like the white little tortellini. It's like the key. The tortelli. It was so beautiful. It was great. It was beautiful. You did such a good job. And the meatballs were on point, honey. The arginine. Until I lost my appetite. I was like, until it. I never lose my appetite until last night. And last night I lost my appetite. Oh, I don't. I saw you eating a lot. Well, I was shoving it down after I lost my appetite for 30 minutes. And then I was fine. And then you said, I need another arinchini. And I needed another arinchini. So we know when Joe is eating, he's fine. And then when it's off to eating, it's going to help. And then everyone gives me the leftover. So like towards the end, everyone was just like, here, have the rest of this. Have the rest of this. I was doing that. You were doing that. You knew I needed. I'm happy to. You guys are happy. Crystal's talking about Joey and Jeff. I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't. I feel like we, you know, we've started kind of a resolution here, like resolving things. I think what's going to, it's going to require a one on one, which is Joey and I, I mean, I definitely felt like it was supposed to be Doug's birthday last night. And then it turned into this, like, Joey, like, I felt like everyone was like planning. Like, I just felt like everyone was sitting there with their arms crossed staring at me. And I was like, this is a lot. And I felt like a kind of ambushed a little bit. I see that. Because I knew we were going to talk because like we hadn't talked. And you were like, I'll see you at Doug's birthday. But I didn't know it was going to be with the whole group, like with everybody. I thought we were going to maybe like walk away, go outside, have a conversation. I think an intervention is powerful, especially amongst, you know, multiple people that can back you up. Because sometimes I forget the details of certain events. So I, you know, I liked having Paul there as well, because he was very clear about, well, he reminded me of what happened during the brunch at Chump Con. I'm not going to rehash all of this, but it was important that we go through and give examples of, you know, here are the issues. And this is what needs to be corrected. And I'll be honest with you, I feel like I was almost like trying to stop another issue, because if you had kind of kept going, it is very possible that that evening could have been a repeat of other evenings. I mean, it does get, I do get to a point sometimes when there's everyone coming out. I mean, of course it's frustrating. So like last night when everyone's piling and then Paul's like, yapping in the corner, I'm like, it's not even about you. It's like, at the end of the day, it's about us, but it's about everybody. So now that I feel everybody is accept, like that feels the certain type of way. Of course I feel bad and like I'm accountable and like I'll work on fixing it. But I mean, I definitely was caught off guard last night. Like beyond. I felt bad because it did, you were feeling ambush and you kept turning to us, like have my back, but then it was like progressing. Like then Crystal tried to have your back and then it was. Yeah, I just feel like if roles were reversed, like I think that I'm like super loyal and I think we all know that. Like I ride hard for my friends and I always will ride hard. And so like if that was happening to me, it was like, like you were like, I don't like that you're talking to Paul like that. Like don't shut him down. Don't shut him down. It's like I'm so loyal. Like I just feel like if roles were reversed and I was in your guys' shoes, I would have been absolutely spoken up and said, I did try to back. I really did genuinely. No, you, you did in the beginning. You got like in the beginning. No, you like came for me because what I was trying to do is give you the space to explain like the future and you know, to shut it down. Like I'm sorry, this is what I'm going to do in the future. And I think it would have stopped it. And I think me giving that space to you made you feel like I was not backing you. And then you like kind of came for me. But I just, I love you, Joey. And it's like, I really want people to see what, you know, like to see past all this other stuff, that's all. Me too. And that's why I was frustrating last night. I got frustrated with you because in the beginning you were like, guys, it is like kind of feeling like a pile on. And then after Jeff finally like kind of lost his cool and looked at you and was like, are you not going to say anything? Like I'm like, why are you looking at crystal for that? And it felt like to me and I'm sensitive again. So it felt like you guys have been talking about like, yeah, Joey does get a little we have out of the whole group. Exactly. So, but that's, but people have come to me separately. Like I wish you would have done. Yeah. And said, and said, and said, like, and you've never said that to me. You've always been like, don't worry about everyone. Like everyone's just being dramatic. But that's what you've said to me. Yeah, but I, if you're saying it behind my back, it feels like, okay, so people are having these conversations, but to my face, no one's because I like being called out. Like that's why we're such good friends. Like you do always tell me and keep it real with me. My, I'm going to divide myself because every time we talk behind you, I'm supportive of Joey. Is that true? Absolutely true. I don't do this whole like, why is Joey doing this? I, I'm always defending you behind your back. And now I know that it does truly all come from like a love and a good place of like, we want to hang out with Joey. We want Joey to be invited to things we want him to come on these trips. We don't want it to turn into like a negative situation. So like, how do we talk about loyalty, but it's not blind loyalty, right? So if there's certain issues that we have to address with you as your friend, we have to be honest, especially if it's getting to a point where you can no longer be, you know, I don't want to ever be put in a situation where I have to exclude you, right? Cause you're always like, you're always like top of my list, want Joey to come. But if you're going to be unprofessional or you're going to be out of line and it's happened repeatedly, the reason that I'm intervening is because I want to fix this now, because I don't want to be in a situation where I have to exclude you. And you had said that it's between you and me. It's not just between you and me because here's the thing. You and I could be 100 so good. But if you have problems with six other chumps as other people have had, then I have no choice but to book the chumps with other people. Do you know what I mean? So that's why we're just trying to, we're trying to fix all of this. Yeah. And I wanted to be fixed, but I also like, we have our own things that I'll talk to you about separately too. Like, sure. And that's what I wanted to do last night. I didn't get a chance to do that. So it was frustrating because it was, again, I didn't know that everyone felt this way. I knew that you felt the way it was in the context of these, these specific events that you've been part of with everybody else. And I think that's what the conversation was about. It wasn't about like whatever issues personally Jeff had with you that were not part of the larger group. And so that, that's the other thing is that, you know, you, you, you're going to get the same result each time. And I also think there was someone made a point last night that there is a difference between a party like Shane's, right? And then there's like the work thing, which I think is, you know, when you have a chump event, you know, a paid event, I think that Jeff is heightened. You know, you're heightened with. Absolutely. Impress and make sure everything goes well. So I think everyone's, I felt it, you know, when I went to Chump, miss, like the level of the professionalism increases. And so I think that's like where people were kind of making the difference last night. And, but that's where I got so upset with because I am professional. I've been, and I have been. I have not experienced that. Well, that's not fair. Sorry, I can give you three examples right now. Four years. You've never experienced, I'm always on time. I always show up, right? I always do my job. Let me take that back. I'm doing it above and beyond. That's not fair. Let me take that back. But there's been three recent incidents in the last year where you were not professional. So here's the thing with LaKendra, she had a situation where she was extremely unprofessional. She and I sat down, she acknowledged it. She was accountable, but more importantly, she corrected the behavior. You have not corrected the behavior. You will sit, you will acknowledge, you will, I can see you receiving it, but then you do it again. And now if LaKendra had done it three times, which you have done it three times, she would be completely excluded from any sort of paid public event. You've done it three times. So you've kind of like, you're putting me in a very bad position because now I feel like if you do it again for a fourth time, I'm a fucking idiot for, for, for hiring you again. So that's why I mean, that's unfair. I mean, totally fair, but also I get what you're saying. And I'm also like, I don't ever want to be, especially to you who's given me this platform, who's given me these opportunities who I'm so appreciative to. Of course I don't want to be anything but professional. And so like, obviously last year was a really rough year for me. And like, there was other things going on. We all have issues. We all have issues. Yes. And there's no excuse for that, but I'm just saying, and I did do that. So it's not an excuse thing. It's just like, I'm going to work on it. So I don't do it ever again. I don't want to disappoint you. I don't want to disappoint my friends here. So it's something that I'm going to work on. And I'm going to continue to work on it. How are you going to work on it? How? What's the plan? I mean, what's Joey 2.0? I'm curious, because you keep saying it all morning. What is, who is Joey 2.0? Joey 2.0 was created this morning. So I'm still figuring this out. Okay. But I mean, last night was last night. Last night. That's fair answer. It's fair. It is an honest answer. It's an honest answer. I'm just curious. He's on it. He's fresh. So I'm looking at what that means for me, and I'm going to, and I'm going to be more aware of this and I want to be aware. And I don't want to ever go through last night. Would I, you know, I don't want to go through that ever again. When do we check back in? Like, when do we know who Joey 2.0 is? I mean, how much time do we need? Like, tomorrow. Is it possible that in this group, you feel some pressure to show up and be wild, crazy Joey? Well, no, I'm always wild, crazy Joey. It's like, that's why, like, listen, I do take accountability because even outside this group, like last year, like I was having certain issues, sometimes when I would like go out and it's not just this group. So that's why I can take accountability. There is something awry and missing with what I do and how I act, acted last year, opposed to how I was the year before. So that's something I need to look into and figure out and I'm willing to do that. And I want to do the work and I don't want to disappoint anybody ever. Like, I, you know what I think was unfair and it's kind of how I feel watching Salt Lake City, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Oh God, don't compare to Pretty Bateman, honey. No, where everyone keeps saying, everyone keeps making these, these false accusations that Meredith is, has a drinking issue. And I realized last night, I don't know if this is necessarily about alcohol. Do you know what I'm saying? Because everyone kept saying, and I led this, where when you drink, you change. When you drink, you change. I don't know if that's the case because I was thinking more about it last night. I think there is a lack of self-control in general. So whether it be eating sex, drinking, whatever, I think there is a lack of self-control. Now with us, with Chomps, it's like, you're right, we all want to have a good time. We all skew boundaries, but there, you have to be very careful of that line, especially in a professional event. Like you said, Shane's birthday, sure, like no one's being paid, nothing's being, you know, recorded, whatever, we can let Lucen have fun. But on a, but on a paid event, whether it's a Chump weekend or a Chump mis-event. But in defensive Joey, I was just going to mention that is that I do feel like this group, that line gets blurred very easily, which is unlike any other experience I've gone through. Like other jobs. Yeah. It's very specific to this group. And so, yeah, so it's like, you can party hard the night before and guys are hitting their faces on the bar. And then the next day it's like, hold it together and da-da-da. So I feel like that part might be a little bit. I do, I do feel like I should know the line by now though. And that's, I think the problem is that I know where to skew and where to go. But I think that when we talk about the Joey 2.0 of it all, I think that that's something I'll first work on. I'm very zero to a hundred and I take things. I'm either like not drinking for months at a time or I'm, you know, having, I'm not a one cocktail guy. I'm like, if I go out once or twice a week, I'm going hard. So I'm trying to, that's something that Joey 2.0 is going to work on, I guess. At first, stop being so. I'm looking forward to meeting him. So extreme. When is he here? He's here right now, baby. Look at him. Oh. He's here. He's like, no. Hello, I'm nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Thanks for having me on. I love this show. When Jeff talks about like the, these three things that happen, do you, are you aware, do you understand what he's saying? Like exactly what went wrong that you did? I mean, I think it's just like the. Dramatic stuff at all. And I think the way that I can get snappy with people or the way that I get frustrated or the way that I take it over the top with. Okay, let's just talk about the chump con brunch. Right. I think what should have happened when we talk about a lack of self control or discipline on that Saturday night, you have to remind yourself, I have a paid event tomorrow. I have brunch that I'm required contractually. To attend. You don't stay out till 4am. We stay, you know, we all, most of us at midnight at one, one am, whatever it is. We, we remind ourselves, we have this event tomorrow. We have to get up. We have to be sober and we go home. You went harder and you went to the next, the next spot. You know what I'm saying? So there's a prime example of being professional where you have to be. It's, yes, it's so much fun. I, I want to stay all night. I want to keep going. I understand. But I have, but I have obligations as do you. 100%. But you're owning. I'm owning it. And I get it. And I, I regret that night. It was like we were going from the pool party to this. It was a lot. I should have fucking shut it down and I didn't. And that's a problem. And that's when it comes to zero to 100. I keep going. And of course, in the back of my head, I was like, I have a event the next day, but I'll be fine. I'll be fine. I'll be fine. Wasn't fine. So where are my lesson from that? At the Leot influencer event in Las Vegas. Who, there was some sort of disruption conflict at the restaurant. Who was that with? I think with Joey and me. Yes. You have a Leot which felt like I didn't really remember, but yes, it was. So you had a conflict that night. I did have a conflict that night. So drunk that you had. You started that conflict. Because of me. You brought something. You were like begging me and dug against each other. You thought I said something that I didn't say or that I said something in a weird way. And you got a little short with me. Okay. I like it. I like examples. We did resolve it, but it. We resolved it. It went by very quick. Right. But you were under the impression that I did something and you got very heated about it, which was just weird. Well, then that's something else I'm going to work on. Joey 2.0 is being like less. Well, then it didn't stop there. Reactive. Reactive. It didn't stop there. You know, you just kept drinking, drinking, drinking to the point where you were so inebriated, you had to be babysat. I wasn't that inebriated. Honestly, I'm not going to. I'm going to tell you like for me personally, I was having, I've never been into a private casino. I was like, I felt so grateful to Leigh Ann and Trevor and I would never want to disrespect them and, you know, become an issue at their event. You were an issue. And I'm just saying that you actually disrupted my evening with your behavior. You did. I'm just giving you examples. I understand how I disrupted your evening, but I don't think I was disrespectful to Leigh Ann or Trevor or anybody. I think I was really drawing. I wanted your attention. I was like, like a little kid, like being like, like, I want to play like whatever, because I didn't even know how to play blackjack at that point. So I was kind of watching, seeing. I was in the, I was winning. I was on a winning streak. And we were. Don't play me for you. You were like, I need to talk to you. How am I playing for you? Do you remember this? I need to talk to you right now. I said, Joey, I'm fucking winning. Back off. Well, that's dramatic. I love it all. I thought we were friends. If you were my friend, you would talk to me right now. Well, I do feel like that sometimes. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. Long time. Yeah. Right. I think I mentioned that. Like you said, you expect that, but it sounds like you can't expect that because it's just not going to happen with Jeff. If there's somebody who will take your call at any minute of the day, you need to. It needs to be. No, I know. And like, that's my expectations for our friendship now, too. What's that? That's to you. I said he has a certain expectation of your friendship that he wants your attention and I said that to you. I think that's a real thing. Our friendship used to be like that. So it's like, when did it change and how did it change? And that's something we'll talk about. Everybody knows I can't be around you when you're in a relationship. Well, that's a problem, man. Sorry. I can't do it. It doesn't even make sense. So you like me better when I'm not dating someone, but you want to be friends with me when that doesn't make any sense. If you were, if you were not ever, okay, since I've known you, every relationship has been toxic and negative and dramatic and a roller coaster. And I, I have, I mean, all through the blind divorce, I was there for you. It's then you jump into another one and then you jump into another one. So I felt like here I am holding your hand. I was calling you every fucking day. Yeah. Are you okay? How's it going? Whatever. Every day for sure. But then you have to understand like I felt like we, I helped him. I got you through this. And then just a few short weeks later, you're in another toxic, negative, crazy relationship. And I go, Oh my God, I can't, I can't do this again. Like wasted, like all your energy and time. Yeah. You require a lot of energy. I do, but that's friendship too. Sometimes you know what I mean? So it's like, well, okay, well then protect your peace and then I do good. Like you have. So then our friendship is just not going to be the same then, I guess. Which doesn't have to be. I just have to draw boundaries. It does sound like it needs to be different, but also Jeff, as your friend, I'll say you shouldn't expect a different outcome each time. Like you keep going back and then you get. That's what he's saying. He's not going back to the same way. Right. Okay. Well, I can't. Right. You're not going to get that. That's why I'm different. Fair thing to say. When you, you know, you and I, which I brought up, you and I had a really great evening. It was just you and me and we went, we went to Tower Bar. I felt like we really had a long, deep conversation. Yes. And by the way, you agreed with me. I said, well, you even brought it up. You're like, you can't be around me when I'm in relationships. I said, he goes, I've, you said, I've noticed that you back away from me when you're in a relationship. You do. And that's not because I don't want you to be happy and fulfilled. I just don't want you to, you know, we've experienced some like real crazy, dramatic rollercoaster. I mean, remember universal and it's just, it really is distracting sometimes. Like if you're having a, and I'm sorry, this is feeling like a pile on it really. I'm really. Yeah. I just like, I like, let's have a conversation meeting you before we like. Fine. Do this again, because it's not going to, we're not going to get anywhere. And I want to get somewhere. I want to resolve this and I want to move forward and I want to. All right. All right. Why don't you and I, let's, let's get it. Let's do a conversation with us too. All right. Let's talk about the guy that hit the bar. Okay. I think he was talking, wanted to talk to you, Crystal. I always seems to think he wants to talk to Joe. I think it was both. No, I think it was both of us. Joey said, coming for me. Shut up. And then we're taking color one who loves my pots and pans. This was Shane's, this was that Shane's birthday. Yes. I have to be honest. It happened like he was so glazed over and he walked kind of towards us. It happened so fast because Joey. Kind of wish we had that on camera. Oh, and then the way we looked at each other after he slammed his face. Can I be for real? I didn't, I didn't, because of how he got up. Did you ever see that real housewives episode when they're on vacation and so, so I get falls out of her chair. She's like, I'm going to knock you out and she falls with the chair. Yes. Out of the chair. It was kind of like that. He was kind of like about to sit and he just like missed his seat. So everyone said that it was really a hard hit. I didn't actually see that, but I saw him get up and he was like, I'm fine. I'm fine. And there was no blood. So I didn't know if he was just like trying to play cool or if he was in that moment after it was a hard hit. It was a hard hit because you were to my right and in the, you know, we were at the bar and he was on my left. He literally like hit his face six inches away from my shoulder. And it was such a shock. And then I, the glass broke under me all of a sudden and he's, and he like kind of falls like halfway and then down. And then he's on his back looking up totally dazed. And I, that's when I think I said to you guys at dinner last night, was like, this is when the whole mouth is going to start exploding in blood. I literally was like, oh my God. And then it did it. And I was like, he broke his jaw like inside then. There's just no way something didn't happen. You're right. You're right. And like, it was like internal or something. And then he looked really confused and embarrassed because he was so drunk. It wasn't like conscious embarrassment. It was super drunk embarrassment. You know, so I don't, he was kind of in and out. And then there was like a woman there. A flight attendant who we met that night. Okay. There she was like helping and everyone started kind of helping him. God, we had a flight attendant in the bar. Oh, she was very good in case. We should invite her to chomp the chomp mixer. Honey, she's like an EMT. There needs to be an EMT. There needs to be a flight attendant at all. Chomp the vets from here on out because otherwise we're fine. Can I tell you something? I love you. So she comes up to me. So I actually, I pulled the chair next to me to try to make him not feel embarrassed, kind of sit down. I was like, come sit and she's like helping, you know, she's like involved in helping him. And then, um, so he was like seemingly like just kind of days and I, and then I kind of got up and she pulled me aside and then she's like, someone needs to watch him. Someone needs to take him home because he has a concussion. And I was like, okay. He had a concussion? Yeah. She thought so. She thought so. And she's like, he can't go home and go to bed alone in the state. And then I'm like, I'm like, do you know him? And she's like, no, I'm just like randomly here. I'm like, what do you do? She's like, I'm a flight attendant. I'm like, oh, what airline? She's like, American. I was like, oh, who can I get a buddy pass from? You know? So I was like, okay. And then, but she was really like, you know, she was, she was really concerned. And then he was like so drunk and embarrassed. He was like, I have to go home. And then he just kind of like walked out of the bar and then I was trying to walk him out. And he was, he didn't say leave me alone, but he was like storming out, like leave me alone. Embarrassed. Cause he was embarrassed about it. Yeah. No, he's, but, um, we have friends and common IDM's with him. He's, he says, he says, okay. Send him to Sarah's show. Diane in Texas, I think is starting some shit. Line two. Hey, Diane. Hey, Diane. Hey, you know, hi, I was going to start shit, but then I need to pivot. I have one question for Joey. Hey, Diane, are you in love with, are you in love with Jeff? Jeff. Um, no, not. No, I know Jeff Lewis. Um, in which way, of course I'm in love with him. Not in love. You just in love. You know what I mean? You mean like want to be in a relationship? Yes. I mean, well, you know, I mean, certainly when you're drunk, you talk about it. He loves everyone when he's drunk. Right. I mean, but. I love that you're actually talking. I don't think me and Jeff are off the table. I think we're off the table. Really? Yeah. Okay. That's off the table, Joey. I love that you're saying, I feel like that, that's been. Crystal said it. It's been a thing. People, I think there's. Inside the chump world, it's definitely been a conversation. I do feel like that's, but inherently why he wants your attention. I think that's why there's so much tension and that he needs something from you. I think there's feelings on his side. Well, I don't know if there's feelings on my side. It's just it's been a conversation and it's not. Oh, Diane, we've never talked about this before. No, I think I definitely have a lot of love for Jeff, but I'm like, you know, you just never know. Well, I know. And it's. You're both saying very different things. Joey's like, well, who knows? No, I have a lot of I had a lot of love for Joey. It's not for you. It's not a romantic love, Diane. I don't have a romantic love either. I'm just saying. I have one. Never off the table. Yes, you do. That's OK. One. One of your day. Why don't one of your day, Chris Appleton, he is so hot. Then they're done that. By the way, that's. That did not sound like Joey 2.0. There's things that are slipping out again. Maybe fuck. Joey's response is so indicative of who he is. Like he's listening to to Jeff me like I love you. But I'm not in love. He's like, not off the table. It's like, it's so. Who he is like he's just. But that's when I'm saying Jeff. Should be expected to bring results. Yes, exactly. Because if this is if Joey is being Joey one or two or even seven point seven. I don't know if it's really like. Still drawing the line. Jeff's line is drawn like this is not. Guys, I'm going. I don't have a romantic love for Jeff, but I have love for him. And like maybe sometimes when I'm. But it's not off the table. But it's not off the table just yet. See that's not. Right. But that's the. It's off the table. It's not on. I'm very flexible. I'm like, listen, if someone's going to want to take me on a date, like I'll go on a date with Jeff Lewis. He didn't ask you on what. But this. OK, this is kind of the boundary stuff, right? Yes, that's what I'm saying. You draw a boundary. You know, I'm just like every fucking time we're together. When you're drunk and you start, I'm a flirt. I say. It makes me uncomfortable. It really does. No, I won't flirt with you anymore. I'll just flirt with Prist next time. In discreet. I flirt with Doug when I'm drunk, like I do. OK, that's not such a bad thing. Fuckers. No, I do flirt with Doug. Oh, yeah. No, in a great way. Doug, I told you I would come on the temperpetic with you. Like I was like, we would. What? That is not first of all, that's not a flirt. And that's what I'm like. What have you started here? Diane really started out. I love you, Diane. I hate you, Diane. I'm a flirt. I flirt with Pia when I'm drunk, Pia, right? I love how you say you flirt with everyone, even Doug. I know. Doug is a prize. He is a prize. I love my Dougie. I just like I'm a flirt. But it's not. I'm a lover. I'm a lover. But listen, listen, if Doug asked me on the table, Doug asked me on a date, I would go. It's on the table. That's not on the table. Doug's out there. Doug's out there, baby. Dougie, Dougie 2.0. Joey Buten. Joey Buten. Oh, Joey Buten. Diane. Cute. Did you cover everything you wanted to? Joey wants to know. Partman will set you apart. Not for nothing, but you and Joey would make a very hot, sexy couple. You sound like Joey. We would make a very hot and sexy couple. I think Diane is Joey Buten. I think Diane is Joey Buten. I think it's Simon. Diane, Joey No. Yeah. I'm going to move on. Diane and Pave in holiday. I know. It's crazy. Joey, you would even flirt with Diane from Texas. Come on, Diane. Come to the next chump event, or with you too, babe. Well, you won't be there. I would do that. God, stop. See, I don't like that. He's buying a ticket. He just, no, he can't. Buying a ticket. Yes. Oh, you're going to make me buy a ticket to the Chump party. Only me. 250 for the VVS. 250 at Steve's. Shit. It's an hour with Chumps. Oh, my god. OK, fine. 250 is not that bad. It's a bargain. You want him to hang out with this murder. I like won't be in Chump anymore. I'll be behind.哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎 That number come from, I never said that on Saturday. And then the week before, it was two million. You made two million in a week? Maybe, people do. Now you guys are making it all up. It's all getting crazy. I make great money, but not four million dollars. Well, I will, because Shelly from Texas wants to say that she loves my pots and pans. We gotta get your pots and pans. It is off the rail. Shout out to me, I'll post. Send me anything I'll post. They're so nice to our pots and pans for real. Is it like Caraway? It's better than Caraway. Hi, Shelly. Hi, Shelly. I'm here. Hi. Shout out, Shane. Shout out, Shelly. Crystal, my husband made the comment when he was cooking that we need new pots and pans. And I said, I know just the ones. And I went and ordered them. And we love them. We love them. They are awesome. I'm so happy to hear that. It's been such an amazing launch. And we're five stars on Amazon and everyone's been very positive. So thank you and thank you for trusting in me. Thank you, Shelly. I will tell you, I told Kean, I said, get me some negative reviews. There were none. Yeah, fine. None. Five stars. All five stars. Where do you make those pans? In China. She's Chinese. I'm Chinese. That was very delayed. Oh my God. I like the time difference. That is great. You're so fucking stupid. They make them wet the snowballs. That's why we can get the price down. 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Saving on minimum 24 months, 125GB of airtime plan. Eligibility, credit check in terms of supply, credit by EE Limited. Claim from Samsung within 30 days of purchase. Verify best network at EE.cuddy.cash.claims. We are going to play a game today. Spelling bee with Joey Z. I can't handle it. Joey, it's a new year but the same you. Let's see if this fresh start. Joey 2.0 has made you a better speller. It's time again for Spelling Bee with Joey Z. Now this is from what I understand. You passed the fifth grade and the sixth grade Spelling Bee. We're going to go back to seventh grade to see if you indeed can pass seventh grade. Now I think what we should do for Joey today is give him a piece of paper and a pen. Because I feel like it might help you with spelling. I would like that. I think it would be helpful. Can we have a pen and paper guys? Big studio here with lots of supplies. Lots of supplies. We got a pen and a piece of paper. I have a hard list. Let's see how he does with the hard words. Definitely. I can never get this one right. I'm being serious. I'm actually the same with this one. Write it down. This is... Ding it if he gets it wrong. Oh wrong. Oh, so I have to get it close to me. DEF. I can never get this right. DEF. I.N. I.T.E.L.Y. Yes, good job. Oh, no. All right. The next word. Vulnerable. Vulnerable. V-U-L-E-L-E. V-U-L-E-R-A-B-L-E. Wrong. It's V-U-L-N-E-R-A-B-L-E. You were close. Oh, no. I wrote the N. I just didn't say it. Magnificent. That is like... Oh my God. All the seventh grade... All the seventh grade are very clear in that word. M-A-G-N-I-F-I-C-I-E-N-T. Oh, you were so close. C-E-N-T. Look at what I wrote. You need to say what you smell correctly because it would work like this. No, I keep second guessing myself. I'm afraid to give you this one. Con-ch-y-en-chis. What? Con-ch-y-en-chis. Con-ch-y-en-chis. Fufu. C-O-N. You're going to get this one. C-O-N-C-N-S-I-E-N-C-I-E-N-C-I-O-E-N. No, because it's con-science. Science doesn't have like ten letters. That's conscience. Conscientious. You take the E out and you do I-O-U-S, bitch. But you did con-ch-y-en-chis to get the con-science to get. This is crazy. Conscientious. Who could spell that anywhere? It's a hard one. Seventh graders. Well, maybe when I was in seventh grade. Alright, you get this one. Substantial. Substantial. Come on. I believe in you. S-U-B-S-T-A-I-N-A-L. Okay, it's S-U-B-S-T-A-N-T-I-A-L. Yeah, he did it. Did he get that one? I did that. It's a little murky, but yeah, I think so. Okay, fine. We'll give it to you. We'll give it to you. No, I said you got it. Okay. Pneumonia. Okay. P-H-E-N. P-H-E-N. It's not phonomia. Pneumonia. It's a hard one. It's a hard one. P-N. Yeah. Oh, I think you said P-H. No, I said P-N. He did. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I said P-N. Okay, let's go with S-H. It's a hard one. It's P-N-O-M. No. P-P-N-E-N-O-M-I-A. No, it's close. Okay, it's P-N-E-U-M-O-N-I-A. E-U-M-O-N-I-A. It's a hard one. It's a hard one. Well, you missed the U and the M, the I, the A. I missed the U, the M, the I, the N. And the P at the end of the E. And the P. You basically had it. I basically had it. This is an easy one. Disguise. Disguise. You can do this one. D-I-S-G-U-I-S-E. Disguise. Woo-hoo. Yes, very good. Very good. Work, bitch. Efficient. Oh. Shit. E-F-F-I-E-N-C-I-E-N-T. Efficient. It's E-F-F-I-C-I-E-N-T. So you were wrong. No, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look. It's not right. I didn't even pick it up because I thought he had to get it right. There's no N in the middle. Well, it was not. All right. Controversy. Controversy. I should know this one. Yeah, you caused a lot of it. Controversy. Controversy. C-O-N-T-R-A-V-E-R-S-Y. Where did you go to school? Stop it. I'm not kidding. I love you. C-O-N-T-R-O-V. I'm just not a good speller. Your personality, not a speller. I'm a personality, not a speller. I'm a personality, not a speller. I'm a personality, not a speller. All right, last one. Miscellaneous. Oh. Oh. Fuf. Fuf. Fuf. Roof. M-I-S-C-E-L-L-E-A-N-I-O-U-S. Miscellaneous. E-A-A. No. M-I-S-C-E-L-L-A-N-E-O-U-S. You know what I think it is? I think I get like a little pressure because of like all the cameras around and everything. Otherwise, I'd be great if I was like in a room by myself writing them down. So I think next time I'm going to step out. One more word because Shane and I argued about the spelling yesterday. Caesar. Caesar. Oh. Caesar solid rap. C-A-E-S-A-R. Good job. Yeah. All right. Caesar, that I know, babe. Thank you for playing Spelling Bee with Joey Z. Dude, you guys get like secondhand embarrassment for me when I don't get like certain words because I know Crystal does. No, not at all. Sometimes I would really. You actually did okay today. Yeah, I didn't do that, but you got four. What? Don't come for me, guys. Dana and Cleveland is mad. Line three. Dana. Hey, Dana. Hey, Dana. Hi, Jeff. Hi. I gotta say, first of all, I love you, Jeff, and don't get me out at what I'm going to say. No, I won't get mad. I did it like when Joey first came on the scene and I've been following you since the very, very beginning. I, when Joey first came on, I really didn't care for him. I thought he was trying too hard, but I got used to him and I started to like him. Yeah. Thank you, Dana. And real quick, Joey, IV4E, except after C. Oh, that's a good one. Oh, that's the best I before E except after C. Dude, yes. Wait, Dana, that is like exactly what I needed for the next spelling bee. I love you so much. We all learned that in first grade. I don't remember. Do you? Dana, that's the best advice ever. IV4E except before C, bitch. I love you, Dana. All right, go ahead, Dana. So I like Joey now. He's grown on me. Yeah. Yeah. And you guys just pick on him so bad. I feel my heart feels bad for him. Yeah. Dana, what you don't understand, we've had a few calls today. We unfortunately, some of them dropped off, but probably had the same sentiment. What we're trying to do is we're working with Joey to try to correct the behavior because we all very much love Joey. We want him to continue to be part of the chump group, but there's some certain behavior that has to change. And honestly, if we didn't care, Dana, we would just move on. You know, there have been people, other people that have been unchomped abruptly, swiftly, without, you know, any sort of conversation. That's not the Joey situation, which is why he's had so many damn chances. Phew! It's so fucking funny. Why? So do you have anything else to say, Dana? You can go, go hard. I don't care. I'm not going to go hard. I was, but then I decided not to. Dana, I love you. Thank you. Dana 2.0. Thank you. It's Dana 2.0. Maybe this 2.0 is going to help all the chumps. We're all going to go 2.0. And remember, remember what you learned today. I before he, except before C. No. Except after C. Except after C. What? I swear, I'm like, this is like crazy. I love you for everything that you do. Thank you, Dana. Thank you, Dana. Oh my God. Jesus Christ. Olivia and Portland, line one. Okay. Phew. What? It's there. Hi, Olivia. Hi. Hi. I'm excited to ask this. Has Joey ever hooked up with another chump? I think the answer is yes. The answer is yes. Naeemom. I don't think it's appropriate. Do you, Jeff? Wait, more than kissing? What is happening? No, I think kissing. I think just anything kissing and beyond. And beyond. Wait, actually, have I gone beyond kissing with any? Oh. I have. I have. I have. That's not with me, Olivia. Liv. I thought it was Jeff. No. But it could also be a couple of weeks. Keeping my opinions to myself, they just keep going. It was another chump. That's not an opinion. That's a fact. What are you talking about? Hooking up? Just like anything. I think kissing. He did some visual. What? Your visual was crazy. What was my visual? Show me. But the answer is yes. I mean, we're a small family. It's a boundary. What is your problem? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. It's a boundary. What is your problem? I don't know. I walked in the door, hooked up with Joey's outfit. So you want to hook up with more? Is that what you mean? She's crazy. Okay, now it's getting crazy. You know what I mean. No, he doesn't. It's all like good fun. All right. So how would you compare last night's birthday party to a real Housewives episode? So in the beginning, it was very different because like Housewives, it's like not as fun and jovial. It's like it really felt like you're at a birthday party and I felt that way, which is nice for me. I mean, I had a very specific experience, you know, like cameras again, but I actually was just going to my friend's birthday. But then I felt like when you guys started like kind of going at it and it started getting really heated and then it got really quiet, I was like, wow, I'm back on the show. It's very, it was very similar like that. Do you, but you're, but I think you brought up a good point, which is, you know, the 15 people that were at that table, you know, we talk about family, family, family. It really is. I mean, everybody really cares about each other and no one is faking it. Right? Nope. So, you know, I know there's a little tension sometimes between Paul and you, but he really is a good guy and he's looking out for your best interests and he wants you to succeed and he's very supportive of you. But he's a little like me where he doesn't mince words and he can be very direct. And it puts you on the defensive. But just so you know, those guys have your back, they do. Just like everyone at that table. I think what's hard for like, I would imagine, because, you know, be on the, on the side of Paul and Patrick is that they come in a pair. So it's not one on one. It, you know, Patrick will jump in. You feel ganged up on that. That's very true. So I feel like it's just inherently two on one, not to say that they are ganging up, but like they always back each other up as they should. But like in a situation against someone else, I can see why it feels like. Like more than like another argument because they, you just hear both of them. So it's two versus one always with them. But remember, it's not, I mean, there's been a lot of inter chump conflict, right? Between me and Patrick and Paul, between me and Doug, between, you know, I mean, between Annie and you, between, I mean, everyone has had not everyone, but there has been a lot of conflict. It's bound to happen. But, but I feel like it gets, it's resolved. And I also feel like if someone can't move past it, much like a housewives episode, then they have to be removed from the group. Right. You have to, if you have a bad apple, you have to remove that person from the group. Well, that's inherently different than housewives. Very different. I won't keep them around. Yeah, that's real. Yeah. Yeah. So I think Patrick and Paul genuinely want to get to the other side. Like they want to resolve things. And I think that's because this group is a group of real friends and family. Yes. Whereas like Beverly Hills, whatever, all those shows, it's like the conflict is part of the show. Real friends of we have. Yeah. Shout out. But, you know, Doug, Doug was saying, Hey, how are you excited about filming? And I was like, not really. Like I'm not really that excited about filming. I mean, they're just following my everyday life, right? So, and it feels like it's the same thing. Radio, I go to the new house, I go to job sites, I go home and then I drink. It's the same thing. Right. And then, and then repeat. But I changed my attitude today because this morning I was like, you know what, we have so many fun events planned. Yes. That's what I'm looking forward to. There's a lot of stuff coming. Oh, Jeff, Jeff, two point. Oh, baby. Starts today. Let's go. Grateful. Jump two point. Oh. Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis, LOD, every weekday on serious XM, as well as the Jeff Lewis channel, exclusively on the serious XM app. The people of Britain love their spin bikes. They also love moving their card balances to a Barclay Card Platinum balance transfer card with no interest for 36 months and 20 pounds cashback until the 29th of January, 2026. A balance transfer fee of 3.45% applies subject to financial status, teas and seas and exclusions apply. Check if you're eligible at barclaycard.co.uk. 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