Club Shay Shay

Best of NFL News Part 2: Allen Iverson CALLING out the NBA STARS for LOAD MANAGEMENT

57 min
Apr 11, 20267 days ago
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Summary

Club Shay Shay discusses NBA load management criticism from Allen Iverson, Jason Tatum's return to Madison Square Garden after his Achilles injury, Joel Embiid's recurring injury issues affecting the 76ers' playoff hopes, and the Oklahoma City Thunder's championship potential with Chet Holmgren. The episode also covers the Chicago Sky trading Angel Reese to the Atlanta Dream and includes commentary on the physical demands of modern NBA basketball.

Insights
  • Modern NBA's faster pace and increased tempo place significantly greater physical demands on players compared to the era when Allen Iverson and Tracy McGrady played, requiring different conditioning and load management strategies
  • Joel Embiid's recurring injury pattern (9 injuries in 9 playoff appearances) suggests systemic issues with either his body's durability, training methods, or the team's injury prevention protocols that go beyond individual incidents
  • Nikola Jokic's success as a pass-first center who operates from the nail and reads double teams demonstrates a fundamentally different offensive philosophy than Joel Embiid's ball-stopping approach, resulting in better team flow and player development
  • The 65-game threshold for award eligibility has created perverse incentives where star players push through injuries to meet statistical minimums rather than prioritizing long-term health
  • Angel Reese's trade to Atlanta Dream represents a cultural fit and market opportunity that benefits both the player's brand and the WNBA franchise's competitive positioning
Trends
Increased non-contact injuries in NBA driven by ultra-high pace of play and game tempo accelerationLoad management becoming standard practice despite player and media criticism, driven by injury prevention scienceStar players' playoff availability becoming unreliable due to cumulative injury burden during regular seasonPass-first center archetype (Jokic model) outperforming traditional scoring-first centers in team success metricsWomen's professional basketball gaining mainstream attention and sponsorship investment with high-profile player tradesAward eligibility thresholds creating unintended consequences for player health decision-makingDefensive liability concerns for high-scoring centers not translating to team success when offensive IQ is eliteCompetitive intensity in pickup basketball and practice settings as predictor of professional success and durability
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Allen Iverson
Called out modern NBA stars for load management, contrasting with his injury-playing approach
Jason Tatum
Returning to Madison Square Garden after tearing his Achilles tendon there, expressing concern about the venue
Joel Embiid
Had appendectomy surgery, continuing pattern of recurring injuries affecting playoff availability
Nikola Jokic
Analyzed as pass-first center with elite game IQ, contrasted favorably with Joel Embiid's approach
Chet Holmgren
Discussed as key to OKC's championship potential with rim protection and scoring ability
Angel Reese
Traded from Chicago Sky to Atlanta Dream, praised as perfect fit for city and franchise
LeBron James
Discussed playing with his son Bronny James on the Lakers, analyzing their on-court dynamics
Bronny James
Playing alongside father LeBron James, discussed competitive dynamics and family relationships
Dylan Brooks
Discussed for trash-talking tactics and emotional play style against elite opponents
Kevin Durant
Scored 29 points in Rockets' win over 76ers, mentioned in context of competitive play
Quotes
"Load management, they took me to the hell for allegedly not practicing. Now they're crying about players not playing games. I played every injury you can think of to the point they had to hide my jersey to keep me from playing."
Allen IversonLoad management segment
"It's a lot faster, the tempo is more upbeat, more up, more, more, more pace and you know back when AI and T Magnum was playing, the game wasn't played this fast man."
HostLoad management discussion
"Yoke is IQ for the game is basically like LeBron. Because when you come with the double team, he knows where you come. Depending on who comes, he knows where he's supposed to be."
HostJokic analysis
"I think the pace of the game has really, really has been upgraded to the point to where it's taking a load on a lot of these cats."
HostNBA pace discussion
"When you're dealing with those level of guys, right, it ain't got nothing to do with them. Right. But if they if they end up if they end up meeting the playoffs. It's going to be some smoke."
HostDylan Brooks discussion
Full Transcript
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Better watch what you talking to sometime. Yeah, hey, Slim Reaper. He ain't playing no games out there. I like to see when dudes do, but I like to see when dudes talk stuff. I like watching Dylan Brooks playing his antics, him being emotional. Yeah. But hey, man, sometimes they don't do nothing but turn some guys up, bro. It turns some guys up, man, to the point. Yeah, after the game, Katie said that, you know, Dylan Brooks ain't got no effect on his game. That's a lie. That man, hey, he made you go into that bag. You know, somebody go to talk until you to make you pull out what you got. Oh, yeah. And the funny thing about it, Dylan Brooks, he go with everybody, especially the better players when he competing against, you know, the KDs or the LeBrons. He going to antagonize you. You going to get in your ear a little bit. Try to throw you a rocker. But them great players, they don't bother. That don't bother them. That might bother less than tier players. You don't play at that level. You think Dylan Brooks is the first guy to try to get up? Oh, no, sir. I mean, think about LeBron. He had how he had to deal with a land. These are blowing all in his ear, doing all the foolishness. Yeah. He these guys used to it. Cameras called Katie said, my worst season is better than your best season. Hey, it's some truth in that. Hey, it's levels of everything, Joe. But when you had that competing and you were talking, Dylan Brooks, you always been there. None of that. You always be. You always been one that going to antagonize you. You don't get this work. I don't care what your seasons look like, whether it's better than my what is better than my my best or not. I'm going to talk this shit. And I think that I think that they got by them getting traded for one another pretty much. I think that's kind of, you know, it may be a little something. Yeah. Little bad blood. You know something. Boy, you trade folk dealing, Brooks, with Kevin Aran. In the much as you talk, you ain't bothered to be lying with Joe Joe. You know who to bother. Hey, DB, I'm talking. No, I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to him. I'm talking to safety. I'm talking to you. You want to talk to. But look, I love it. You know, that's that's what Dylan Brooks is doing. It's more to get him going, himself going, than that impact. Because when you're dealing with those level of guys, right, it ain't got nothing to do with them. Right. But if they if they end up if they end up meeting the playoffs. It's going to be some smoke. It's going to be some smoke. Trust me. Just under a year after tearing his right of killies tenant in Madison Square garden, Jason Tate will make his return Thursday when he and the Celtics take on the next. Tatum said he's not exactly looking forward to it. Tatum said, I mean, yeah, I thought about it. I'm not like thrilled to go back to and play there. The last time I played there, obviously, it was traumatic experience for me. Obviously, I knew at some point I would have to get over that hurdle and play there again. So it's going to have to be this Thursday, but it's not like I'm thrilled about it. But it's part of it. I've decided to come back and play. So I'm not necessarily skipping certain games. I can't play back to back right now, but I decided to come back and play. So it's just another game on the schedule. Joe, are you concerned about those type of comments? Normally guys like, man, I was a little jittery to go back out there the first game back because I am coming back with many thought I was going to miss this regular season. But he's like, he's not looking up. It's a specific place. Normally guys is not the specific place. It's like the first game. Now, if the first game was back then, his first game back, Joe, I could see it. But now you've been playing two, three weeks. And so I'm going to get you. I don't think I think he's going to be all right, man. He's been playing great basketball since he's been back, especially over the past what maybe five or six games or so. But yes, it's natural if you had an injury somewhere and you get back in that environment or in that same place that he's going to think about it. Okay, old show, you know what I mean? Planning, Madison Square Garden thinking like, damn, last time I was here, you know, it's right here in this particular spot where I was laying at when I tore my Achilles. It's going to be in the back of his mind, but I think he's going to be just fine. I think he's going to be just fine. He looks great from from his movement and how he's been playing. He's been shooting the three ball better. Getting to the rack. I don't think I don't think I think it'd be all right. Yeah. I think he's here. Hey, I ain't never been injured. So it's hard for me to say what he would be thinking about. Obviously, if you had an injury and you're going back to the place of what the injury actually happened, I think it's in the back of your mind. But being a competitor, you really can't let it really can't let it get in the way that you actually plan a performing at the highest level. Obviously, you want to go out there and do what you do. So I don't know, Joe, Joe, Joe, you were on that y'all be better. It kind of kind of says that now that he's talking about it. I was like, and I it never dawned on me. Oh, Joe, I'm in 99. I broke my collarbone in Oakland. The next time I played in Oakland, I went 96 yards down the middle of the field score a touchdown against the 2000 for the Ravens. That was my first time back there. It didn't dawn on me until now. OK, OK. It didn't even dawn on me that like, man, this is where I broke my collarbone last time I was here. It didn't cross my mind until we started to like he started like I tore my Achilles in Madison Square Garden and I'm coming back. Like I said, now maybe I would have been at the forefront of my mind if my first game back would have been in Oakland. But because so much time has passed, I'm just having to go back to Oakland. Hey, I look and I agree with you, Joe. I think the mere fact that he's been at for three weeks and he's gotten better and better and better and better. I don't think he has anything. I don't I mean personally, I don't think he has anything to worry about. I think that that that that tendon is as strong as it's. But I do think, you know, considering that that the Celtics are playing the Knicks. That's going to be a physical physical game. OK, old Joe, you know, it's going to be a playoff game. See them big wings that they got. That's why that's why the Knicks went out and got OG. That's why the Knicks went out and got bridges because of what they play against Tatum and Brown. So it's probably it's probably going to be probably one of the most physical games he's going to play since his return. If we just keeping it 100. I mean, because it ain't but a couple of games left. Everybody's still kind of jockeying for position. You know what I mean? So it's going to be it's going to be pretty intense. It is. And man, when you think about it, Joe, I didn't realize until like, see it like Jason Tatum's there. Jason Tatum like that was tall, man. I was thinking all this damn time he like six, eight. No, that's both old like 16. That's the advantage and that's the advantage that they have because you can play Tatum at the four. And have have have you a five out there. Obviously when they had poor Zingas or our whore for, you know, they were playing with one of those guys at the five. But they got a day. I don't say I won't say a totally different team, but they got different type of bigs now. You know, obviously they got boosted. Yes. Shooted three. He could spray the floor. Yeah. But the other kid that I can't. What's the name? Quater. Quater. I like him. Defender. Rebound the rim runner. Lob threat. Going to play hard. And that's what they've been missing. That's what they that's what the Celtics been missing. It's going to be a good game tomorrow. Yeah. He he he he. It's going to be tough because you know what? And you can't take anything away from, you know, out of the matchup because I think the Celtics beat the Knicks during the regular season last year and down to the Knicks down this. Yeah. They did. They could. They had them. They big body Brunson. Yeah. They have no answer. No matter how. Think about it. No matter how big of a lead they had, Nick, we just just methodically just track them down. Yeah. Because even the game Tatum got hurt. I thought he was playing great, but yeah, they were still losing unbelievable. They were losing when he when he got hurt. I think he was playing great. I mean I believe them. I believe them when he got hurt. Trends come and go. 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Tesco Mobile. It pays to be connected. Terms apply. See TescoMobile.com slash home from home. Alan Iverson is calling out modern NBA stars for load managing. This all hit different for me. Load management, they took me to the hell for allegedly not practicing. Now they're crying about players not playing games. I played every, he said, I played with every injury you can think of to the point they had to hide my jersey to keep me from playing. True story. Now we talking about the game, not practice, not practice, we talking about the game. Don't cry now, what the baby's gonna do. Hey look, I understand what AI is coming from. Hey look, you talking to a guy who was Iron Man in the NBA for over a decade, like I thoroughly enjoyed what I was doing and I thoroughly enjoyed the game and I never wanted to cheat the game. But I think we do have to take into consideration the way the game is being played today. Meaning it's a lot faster, the tempo is more upbeat, more up, more, more, more pace and you know back when AI and T Magnum was playing, the game wasn't played this fast man. You know what I mean? Yeah, those dudes average 30 plus a night. For hell, they was the only one on their team who was doing that. You wouldn't put up about 85, 90 points, you know 95 points a night. It's just totally different man. These guys play at such a healthy, skelter pace and you know it's starting to hurt our stars as we can see a lot about, look man, can't nobody even make the 65 game threshold to even be in the conversation for any of these awards. You know what I mean? So it says a lot. I think the pace of the game has really, really has been upgraded to the point to where it's taking a load on a lot of these cats. So Joe, what do you think? You think the answer is obviously fixing the issue is taking some of the games out because the pace is a little bit more upbeat now? No, not yet. Because you know you play less games, you get less money, don't you? Yeah, I mean, yeah. You give it up some of your money? No, but I'm just saying how do you fix the problem? How do you fix the issue when you start your superstars? You're probably going to have to train a lot harder. If you're asking me, meaning like in the offseason, you're going to have to be, you can't take no month, two months off, bro. You kind of got to stay consistent, you know, whether it's just standing shape, running, things of that sort, because that's all it is, bro. It's just, it's the running part that's really killing cats, playing at this ultra high level. You know what I mean? Especially when we get in the postseason, you know, you can't take a playoff. You know, I know y'all, we sit here almost every other night, man. I'll talk about, you know, playing the game of basketball is three and a half, four miles a game, bro. Can you imagine running four miles every other night? Every night? Yeah. Up and down? Yeah. You definitely have to condition your body. You have to condition your body to withstand that kind of, and that's what Ocho and I was talking about, is that we played a physical game, they were hitting, we were doing all those things. They didn't ask us to go from zero to a hundred, just on Sundays. We had to crank it up during the week. Week. And I don't know if they crank it up like what we did. And I'm not saying the guys are not tough, it's a different game now. We understand that, but maybe it's because everything gets covered. The NFL is covered so much different than it was when I played and when you played Ocho. And even when the beginning, when I first got to the league, but I don't remember guys getting injured like they get now. I don't remember it. And I'm not saying that it didn't. So Chad, don't beat me up too bad. I just don't remember. Did the guys have ACS? Yes. Did the guys have Achilles? But not these non-contact injuries, not the injuries that we have that we see now. Look, look, look. Yeah. I mean, I'm definitely not to the start, please. That's what I'm saying. It's happening to the stars, fellas. So that's, it lets you know that obviously they're playing a substantial amount of minutes. And it's obviously wearing tan on their bodies to where they're breaking down. Yeah. I mean, uncle Joe, you know, you know, my whole thing is obviously, for one, it's hard for me to even have, you know, input on conversations like this, being that I didn't have any injuries. But I always say, I know I play around with nutrition, but for getting nutrition, you know, for this point, but I think people or players reverse what sports you, what sports you play, you have to learn to build a callus in the body. You have to, the body has to get used to, you know, ramping up to a certain, to a certain amount, to a certain degree that you do on Sundays, which is why when I did practice, I always practice full speed as if it was a game. Yeah. You know, there was no relaxing. There was no, you know, you know, taking a playoff with health. The funny part, I used to get cursed out on and walk through because sometimes I would do walkthrough full speed. I mean, I wasn't doing it to be funny. I was doing it just so to continue to make sure my body stays activated and always at a high rate of speed at all times. And I, for some reason, I think it's those small things that I did that, that one of the reasons why I didn't, I didn't get hurt. And obviously I played the same sport uncle Joe, a barbaric sport. I played very reckless Joe, you know, cross the middle, you know, diving and hitting people, even though I lost every time I tried to hit somebody, I lost every single one. Joe, but I still never got hurt. And I'm at the talking, everybody trying to knock my head off, everybody trying to kill me. Joe, but I still never got hurt. You know, I mean, they call it walkthrough, but I was a brisk dog. It wasn't no walking. And it's like, hey, pick it up. I said, you said it's a walkthrough. Nah, that's just entitled ain't no walking. Right. Right. Right. And you know, and I said, was nobody walked but the male man. That's why he don't make what you make. Right. And it'll give that joke. Now he doesn't want no. Hold on. Hold on. You you think it's new? Yeah. I don't know about you. But here in Georgia, boy, they got some new male trucks in the month of June and July. Them boys in AC. Yeah. Hey, you see, they sit real low, right, Joe? They sit real low. With the look, the male truck is made different. Look, almost futuristic now. Okay. Oh, yeah. I ain't seen the mail. Yeah, because I'm old male truck. They had this line and had the one had the one seat in there and the guy had the male right there. He, he pulled up there to my all your head. You go, but he knew everybody. I mean, that's how you know everybody. He done sorted the mail before he went out there. He know the route that he's going to go. And the first, the first box I stop off and put the man right here. But yeah, man, the male, the male, the jokers, they got on short sense. They had a sweet, have sweet all in their uniform. They having that down. I'll tell you. Hey, they, they living good. They be, they be clean now. But uh, yeah, I look and the thing is practice. See, I enjoy practice. Practice was really the opportunity. Oh, Joe and Joe for me to really work on because this guy that he sees me every day in practicing, he knows all the little nuances on my route. He know that little way to let the top, he know the little head, the head nod to the top or the three steps to like nod. And the thing is I give credit. Ronnie Bradford, Derek Dodge, Tony Veland, they would always give me great feedback. Yes. They like, they like sharp. You got on your toes. I knew you was breaking it. Cause I would have, I said, bro, how you, how you knew that route? He said, man, I saw you get on your toes at the top of it. So I just took a, I took, I know you break it in or out. So I just took the, I took the thing up for myself to jump under it. Okay. So it kept me, okay. Make sure I stay off my toes and I would, you know, BP would have it cut up. And so I look at like, damn, I gave it away. I gave it away, but I'm saying to myself, he don't know this, the guy that's in the game don't know this. But even, even then, even though he don't know it, I'm trying to cut out because I don't want to give away no tendencies. Cause we're a Tennessee. Look, we study tendencies. We're going to get TV copy. That's why they tried to get the cadence of the quarterback. We tried to get that. We tried to get how you stagger your stance and jump off the ball. We tried to get that. Whether you're dropping, whether you're coming, whether you're doing a TE or ET, whatever the case may be, we're looking at all that. That's how, that's how the game has evolved. That's how the great players, they know, oh, we got a bird over here, which means he's about to fly. He bought the pool. Yeah. He said like, Hey, cause, and I had a thing was like, cause I didn't want grass to get on my thing. Cause you know, I had those all tanked to find gloves. And I was like, if it was, if it was a pass, I'm down like, it was here. If it's a run, I'm like this, oh, you don't think we know him? What you know? Don't worry about it. So I had to add the, sometimes you have to self scout yourself, but I agree with, I agree with AI. But I tell you what, Joe, just think if that 65 games wasn't in place, how many more games would they have missed? Let's just say for the sake of argument, the 65 game isn't the cutoff. A lot of guys came back just to make the 65 cutoff. Right. So we have other guys like Wimby, Wimby gonna get that 20 minutes in the last three games. He ain't been to miss that defensive player of the year. He's not been to missing all NBA, because now that puts him in line for the Supermax. Right. Yeah. Yokey's ain't gonna miss no more game cause not he's in line for a Supermax. Ant-Man is going to come back next year and do everything he can to make all NBA, because if he makes it, now he's in line for a Supermax. And guess what? In 2025, in 2027, 82 million points. We ain't show you up again. He just shaved your sign four years, two ninety-five this year. Yeah. He has the effect now. Hey, that's crazy too, when I think about it, Joe, and I'm talking about the top players, you know, the Cades and the Wimby's and some of the players that you know that deserves Supermax based on their value and what they bring to the team skill set and what they able to do. And the fact that, well, if they miss this amount of games, that means we can't reward you for what your true value is. That's in a sense, that's messed up. That's messed up. The fact that they even agreed to that when, listen, interest is a part of sports. Interest is a part of anything, any sports you play. And the fact that now they're kind of punishing players with you miss this many games or you don't play this many games, you know, we're not going to reward you with what your true value is because your ass always hurt. Yeah. And guys were just sitting out and see here's the thing. How do you, that's their body. You don't know they could be hurt. They could be telling me absolute truth. But, oh, Joe, when I got a game on a Saturday night and it's supposed to be a big game or I got a game on a Sunday and guys sitting down in the street clothes and they got the NBA say, no, don't worry about it. Yeah. We're going to fix this. Yeah. The NBA PA signed off on it. Joe, they couldn't have done anything. This has to be, this is collective. You're right. You're right. You're right. The player signed off on it and then it's like, oh, I got buyer's remorse because this is really, this is really, this really hurt me. Damn. This hurt in the game, bro. It is. I don't think I don't think I've ever seen a year to where we've had this many of our stars out. Yeah. You know, miss, miss the significant amount of time. I don't think I've ever seen him, man. I'm telling you, I think this is probably historic this year. Seriously. Yeah. And the guys are getting bigger, stronger, faster. So they're going to have to get themselves in better condition. Yeah, they do, man. They do. Hey, Joe, you been in the gym yet? Come on, man. Come on. Stay in the gym, baby. What's up? I'm talking about, like, you know, getting some shots, working on your ladder movement. I didn't see you some footage when I go tomorrow. No, hey, hey, Joe, hey, I got to show these shoes I got just for you, Joe. And I got them literally just to play you to make sure. Hey, Joe, you a hold on, hold on. I don't want to leave. Okay, okay, let me know. Let me make a call and tell them to bring my shoes. Hold on. Hey, look, I'm gonna tell his a can't regular. He don't even know. Hey, Joe, I promise you one thing, Joe. I promise you one thing, the way you think and you talk like you're going to drag me on my mama. Don't don't don't worry your mom in this. Don't don't. I'm gonna tell you, Joe, I'm telling you how it's gonna be, Joe. I know you wanted to grade and Joe, I just studied you. Oh, Joe, I made a DVD in there, right? I made a DVD in there. I have all your clips, right? Your best move. So I've been watching your tendencies. What the move you like to do? Hey, one, two, and come back to the left and pull up. Joe, I've been watching Joe. I've been watching. No, you laugh at I'm serious. Tell me I'm lying. Hey, I dribble twice to the right, come back, cross over with the left and pull up right away. Right away. Raise dude, man. Okay. Joe, I got a I got the whole breakdown, Joe. I'm ready. You ready for it? Hold on. Matter of fact, let me go get the shoes. Hold on. Hold on. She's sleeping. Hey, Joe, did you watch LeBron tonight? Did you see how he came out? Hey, boy, I'm playing Winnie Man. Did you see how he came out tonight, Joe? That's what we've been looking for. Man damn them. Get it. Get it. How you getting it? Look, the man, what he got, 26, eight and 11. 26, 11, 11 for 17. 11 or 17, three or five. That's what I'm talking about. But that's what I'm saying. If he gone just assert himself early on, then the rest of them dudes will catch up, man. The game will be easy for them too. You know what I mean? Like, you ain't necessarily got to just come out and be Magic Johnson right off dump, the way you just facilitating the whole first quarter, man. Damn all that. I need you to get to it. Yeah. I mean, he like, you try to break Scottie Skye's assist record, try to get 31. Hey, you see, hold on. We need 35 points. You see Brunney in there with 10 points, four for seven from the field. You see Brunney, I think. Hey, look, you don't know about nobody else. Chat. Y'all let me know what y'all think. But for me, when I watched the Lakers play, I love seeing Brunney out there with LeBron for whatever reason. I love seeing them run, pick and roll together. I love to see Brun get assist. I'll Brunney, Brunney get it. Because I feel like this is so historic that it's happening in real time and a lot of people can't even appreciate it. But I can't even imagine being in the NBA, me and my son on the same team, bro. That just sounds crazy. What's this you got? And LeBron don't look at him as a son because LeBron, he gave LeBron that bad pass against Dallas. What did he do? He probably got home and some better like, hey, don't you yell at my baby no more. Hey, hey, you know, it's funny. All that cursing they do on the court, Joe. When you couldn't play with your son because the first time he cursed you, you got them carries, huh? Yeah, yeah, carry, carry, send these to me. Hey, carry be watching the show. Let me see what they look like. Let's see what they look like. Hey, hey, I'll carry be watching the show, right? And he told me he gave me his blessing to give Joe that work. I will knock them damn tassels off them damn shoes, boy. When I get done with your ass. Hey, you see that Joe? Yeah, I see. Hey, that's what you're gonna see. You're gonna see them tassels going right by your ass. That's what you're gonna see. Huh? Can I read going back to his hair? Hey, hey, hey, hey, carry. I appreciate that boy. I love you. You hear me? I ain't gonna let you down. I'm gonna give Joe that work. Hey, they don't fly, but what I'm hoping in, they ain't gonna be the mess with what I got. I ain't even gonna show you. You gonna see them when you see me partner. Yeah, that's how I roll. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, my your mouth Joe, my your mouth now. Chet has finished as the number one seed his entire career in 2018, 19 and 20 and 21 at Miaha Academy. He was the number one seed in the 2021 Feeble under 19 World Championship. Number one seed, Gonzaga. Number one seed, O.K.C., O.K.C., O.K.C., number one, number one, number one. I told you what I told you on Ocho doing the playoffs. I said the better check becomes the better O.K.C. will be and he will determine whether they be a dynasty or not because if he played great, it's going to be hard to beat him. Look what he did yesterday, Uncle Ocho, he had 13-14, four blocks. You know what I'm saying? So he's rim protecting. Not only is he scoring, but he's rim protecting. He's making the game easy for the guys around him as well. I think his growth and maturity for O.K.C. will determine how great of a team that they are. Yeah, we know Shay gonna put up 30 plus. We know Jalen, Jalen Williams gonna do his thing. But if Chick can play at a high level, man, they're gonna be almost unbeatable, fellas. Would you? Yeah. I mean, he's, look, they just got so many. They just come at you. It's just gonna be hard for somebody to beat them unless they have, and the thing is, what are the likelihood of them having four bad nights? Not likely. Four bad nights because they got guys that can shoot it. McCain was a great pickup. Caruso, yeah, what's the lefty? What's the other little lefty who be ballin'? Little light skinned. Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about. I think it was named Joe. Is his name Mitchell? It might be. It might be. But Jeremy Claim was a solid pickup because remember he was playing really well in Philly before he got hurt. Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no. He was a great pickup. You know, a very underrated pickup. You know, a guy who is hungry, ready to prove himself. Obviously, he feels slighted for what happened to him in Philly. So, you know, he coming over there with, you know, with Avengers, bro. He looked good out there, huh? Kevin Durant scored 29 points as the Rockets beat the 76ers, 113 to 102 for the eight straight win. Philly was missing Joel Embiid after he had an appendectomy. The 76ers who was fighting for a playoff spot would be without Embiid indefinitely. He had surgery in Houston on Thursday after being stricken with a appendicitis overnight. The 76ers have lost three straight and dropped into a tie with Charlotte for the eighth seed in the East. Joel Embiid is just saying, you know what, you might as well just call him Slip Rock. I don't know if y'all remember the cartoon Slip Rock where every time you come around, bad stuff just started happening. Yeah. Hey, that appendectomy, that's not, that's not, you're not out that long with that though, huh? Yeah, you are there for a minute, boy. They got to go inside and get them things up. Damn. That's your appendicitis. Yeah. They open you up, Ocho. Yeah, I know they open you up, but I'm just saying the time that he has to miss. Obviously, he'll be back. It's not, I mean, not too long. Maybe I'm probably weak. Okay, that's not bad. That's not bad. That's not bad. I live longer. Longer than it's not a significant amount of time, especially with him, you know, getting ready for the playoffs. I think the thing you're going, oh, Joe, is that, Joe, is that seemed like every time this time of a year is something. Yeah. You remember last year, it was his knee and it's been his knee and it's been his back and it's been his ankle. And like I said, I've never seen anybody with the only people that I've seen with more stomach issues than Joellen Beter's babies. I ain't never seen nobody have issues like him. It's something I don't know. I don't know what's going on. And I, you know, I'm saying that tongue in cheek, but he's had issues with his stomach before and then decided there's nothing you can do. I heard it's very painful from people that've had it. It's like, oh, bro, they got you. Hey, if they have you doubled up and clearly you do emergency surgery, but it's just like, it's one thing after another. I don't know. I'm trying to think that the time maybe once in his career that he's entered the post season and he's been healthy in his career and he's been in the league 10, 10 years, one time of all those years. Cause we see what he, boy, when he's healthy the regular season, he had a deal with, wait, hold on, has there been a season if he's been in the league 10 years, I'm not sure how many years he's been in league, has he had a complete season? We've been able to play 80, 82 game season or is he gonna play 82 game? He ain't gonna ever play 82 game. Because of the size. There was a couple of seasons, oh Joe, where, and Joe, when you remember that he was having MVP caliber a year, he ended up winning one that he was playing probably 68, 70 games. Okay. Okay. Okay. But, but then come play off time. Ne, cause remember last year he was like, what was it? Last year or two years ago that he was like barely get that might have been, was that last year? Might have been last year. Might have been two years ago that he was like 30, it looked like he's about 40 years in. But when he, when, look, when he's healthy and that's a big win and that's probably why, you know, they haven't enjoyed the success that they look, that they, that they wanted to have. Even when Harden was there because he couldn't stay healthy. And then when it had been, Semencey had some issues and then Ben had the issue with the Hawks and they had the issue with the Hawks and they ended up losing to the Hawks in seven games. And I said that, they're never going to be the same. It's over for them. They're going to break that team up. I said, uh, uh, Joellen, I said, uh, uh, Ben Simmons, come on. For Doc to say what he said, for Joellen to say what he said, he was like, I said it, I said, oh man, you don't know what you're talking about. I said, okay. And then Philly, Philly, you know, you know, I, you know, I entered it in, uh, uh, old Joe and Joe, man, they had a trash can going down, it was flooded. And there was a trash can and people talking about this Ben Simmons. I said, oh yeah. So it's definitely over now. That's the baby. And you got, you got to trust the process. Not the process over here. You talking about that process. That process should over. Hey, listen, and this is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about though. When MB don't play, you look at maxing edge comb numbers, they be totally different, bro. You know, MB is a ballstopper. Okay. Old Joe meaning there is not a lot of movement. He, yeah, he going to get you 25, 35 points a night, but the rest of these dudes around them, they ain't going to really be doing a whole lot. You know what I mean? Because he's so stagnant, offensively, and there's no rhythm. There's no flow. So, you know, you got a rookie like edge comb who thrives and transition, you ain't going to get many transition buckets, bro. You know what I mean? Because you said MB taking a space. I'm saying because he's so ball dominant when the ball gets in his hands and stops. It don't move. You know, he ain't moving around, setting too many picks and rolling. You know what I mean? It's just not a lot of flow and rhythm in the game. So it hurts everybody else around them. Yeah, he can score on a half court set. You know, that's what he do. But you know, the glaring thing is he doesn't give you, he doesn't give you much defensively. You know what I mean? He's spending all, he's spending all his energy on the offensive end, you know, letting you know that, look, I can still get 30 a night. You know, and we know that, but defensively, you don't see a whole lot of shot blocking from him. You don't see a whole lot of great defense and that's kind of got Philly behind the eight ball. So I don't expect much from Philly. I'm going to be honest with y'all. They're going to be a first round. And what, you know, that got to be the question. Because they're in the play right now, they're in the playing. Go ahead, don't you? Now I'm going to say why we on the top again. B, right? That year he won MVP. Who was the other person that went right behind? Who was run up? If I'm not, if you're going to run up, right? And think about Joe, think about all the things you just said about everything becoming stagnant offensively when, when Embiid is playing, right? So when you look at, when you look at Joker, when he plays, what's the difference in what Joker does and what Embiid does being that he's a defensive liability as well, because still put up 30. You don't see them. You don't see them assist number. Yoke is got. Okay. So he's obviously, he's not the passer. He's not the passer. Yoke is, if he asks me, he's a pass first center. Who can score? He's looking score. Who can like, you know, okay, boom, he ain't open on the cut. Y'all playing me one on one. Okay, cool. I'm just going to go for 50 tonight. Don't even worry about that. You know what I mean? I think Yoke is IQ for the game. Oh, Joe is just, it's a little much better. Hey, hold on. Hey, Yoke is IQ for the game is basically like LeBron. Yeah, correct. Yeah. Yeah. Because when you come with the double team, he knows where you come. Depending on who comes, he knows where he's supposed to be. Yeah. So his man is open. That's why he throws so many passes behind his head because he knows the man came from the weak side. Right. And so he knows that whoever's in the dunker spot, whether it's Chris, with Kristen Brown, or whether it's Gordon, or whether it's Strahler, or whether it's a Peyton Watson, he knows they're there. So I can go behind my back because I know somebody's feeling from the dunk. Yeah. And that's just, he gets that ball at the nail. He knows you can't come double him. If you do come double him, you double somebody in the middle of the court? Are you crazy? Yeah. You can't do that. They give him both points. And that's just, that's just, that's just having a great feel for the game, fellas. You know, knowing, knowing exactly where your guys are supposed to be at at all times, that's what a point guard does. Your center, your center never really, who never really operates like that. This is why Yoke is just so great. It ain't, it ain't, you know, he gonna put up a triple double. It's cause he gonna, you know, he gonna do what he can. I mean, he gonna score the ball if he had to score it that night. If he need to get 20 assists, hell, he gonna do that. If he need to get 20 rebounds, he gonna do that. He gonna do whatever it takes for them to win. And that's why they've been successful. And that's what makes him so unique. He's about to lead the league in rebounding and assists. And you might not ever see it again. Cause normally when, when guys lead, most, most of the time when guys obviously lead the league in assists, it's hard to ask a guard to lead the league in rebounding. So think about it. Now you got a center that's leading the league in rebounding and he's going to lead the league in assists. Check this out guys. And here's Joel and beads playoff injury history. 2018, he had an orbital fracture at the concussion. 2019, he had an illness, knee tendonitis, 2020 COVID bubble, 2021, torn meniscus, 2022 orbital fracture, torn thumb, uh, ligament, 2023, knee sprain, 2024, bell palsy, 2026, appendicitis, one week before the playoff start. 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, another 25. So basically eight or the nine years, he's had something going into the playoff. Hey, who the hell is bell palsy? It's a, it's a, uh, it's a debilitating thing that called sometimes you see it, the mouth, the crook. Right. Yeah. You know, yeah. Okay. Okay. I think it's a new logical, uh, uh, stink had it. Marks Loretta. Yeah. I think it's, no, he has Gillian Bore, he had a Gillian Bore, he didn't have bell palsy, but sometimes you see guys in it, they, they, they mouth be crook. Like it's almost like it reminds people of a symptom like a stroke. You know, sometimes people have a stroke in their first speech or they have a, uh, hands or something. It's kind of like that. Okay. But I don't think anybody's had a real look at your, that you've got buzzard look. Man, it's unfortunate for him too, man, because, you know, it seemed like all this really, really started happening after the MVP year too. Uh, you know what I mean? After this MVP year, it's like everything started going down here for Nah, Joe, he was hurt before the MVP. Yeah. 2018, he had an orbital fracture and a concussion. 2019, he had an illness and knee tendonitis. 2020 was the bubble. 2021, he had a torn meniscus. 2022, he had another orbital fracture and a torn thumb knee ligament. 2023, he had a knee spring. 2024, he had bell palsy. 2026, he had appendicitis. And so I mean, he'd be, if you think about it, Joe, think about coming out of college. What was it? He'd have been the first pick in the draft. If it's back, if it's injuries, what in the order? Yeah. So normally when you come, if you limp into a league, you limp out of it. You limp out of it. You limp into the season, you limp out of it. Cause you know, Joe, being injured during the season, it's hard to get help. It is, bro. It's hard to get help. Because the games come too fast. You know what I mean? Especially basketball and football, you know, you make a nerdy, nerdy injuries a little, a little better. But in basketball, hell, if I'm playing four games and five nights, hell, I'm probably going to have to sit out with one or two of them games to get yourself back right. Damn. That's crazy. Man, it's tough. I, look, I dealt with injuries. I mean, I have, I mean, I played 14 years and, you know, had some success, but Joe, I missed, I missed 16, I missed, I missed 16 complete games. That's a season. Yeah. That's a season. Damn. Man. That's unfortunate, man. That hurts. That hurts Philly a lot, bro. Because, you know, MB will be great in the postseason, the playoffs, because you could have more set. But without him, they definitely ain't got no chance. Joe, you said something very interesting. You said like, when Joel and B is out, you look at Maxi, Maxi, you look at VJ. Yes. Because he caught a lane up. Maxi can take you off the dribble, but Joel and B is right there. Edgecom has explosive and B is right there. The difference is, if you notice, they rarely, if you look at where Jokic, Jokic's post up at, he always post up easy that the nail at the top. Cause, and even if he ever gets down on the block, he's looking to go across court. He looking to pass first. You better not bring no double G money. He's looking to pass first. You're right. Absolutely. Chicago Sky have traded two time WNBA all star Angel Reese to the Atlanta Dream for first round draft picks in 27 and 28. Angel is the only WNBA player in history to average at least 12 rebounds per game in a season, which she did in 20, 25, 24 and 25. The Angel's dream jersey sold out fast. Not even her mom was able to get one. Lisa Leslie gave Angel the nickname ATL Peach Barbie. Joe seemed like Angel got what she wanted. She's a perfect fit. Is she a perfect fit for the city? Hell yeah. She a perfect fit. These people going to get behind me. Y'all already know it. Y'all know how they listen. This is Black Hollywood, brother. Yep. They going to embrace her and everything that she does. You know, whether she she may even come out with her own shoe now. Does she already have a shoe? No. Yeah. She got a rebounds. She was shocked. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She got a shoe. Yeah. Hey, but hold up though. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. She does. She does have a shoe with a rebounds. You're right. But if we can keep Britney Griner and have Angel. Hey man. Because, because. And what's the name from, from, from, she went to Kentucky. She's no one over draft pick. Ryan Howard. Yeah. Yeah. Ryan Howard. We got a great, hey, they got a, they got a good team, bro. Absolutely. They got a good team and adding her, rebounding machine, play hard, hustle. Yeah, man. This is going to be a great fit for her. It's a great fit for her. I like it. I like it. I think everybody got what they wanted. I think, you know, after kind of some of the comments that she made last year, Chicago was ready to move on. I think she was ready to move on. Ideally, I think this is, you can't get any more perfect than this. Yeah. You can't, hey, she's from the DMV. She can't, you, you can't get it any better than this. Yeah. Only thing, I think Washington have a team, but this is where, this is where she needed to be. This is it. The Angel Rees, hey, this is heaven for her. Yeah. This is it. She's going to love it here. Hey, you know what's funny, bro? My daughter, 12, and she love Angel Rees. That's like a favorite player. I swear I can't make this up. So, we definitely, you're going to be in some games. Hey, Angel Rees, if you, if you watching this now, you know, I need to get my baby girl a picture with you. You know, we're going to come check you out, support you. So, you know, good luck in the eight. These people going to get behind you for sure. Hey, I'm in the city where they at. Yeah. Hey, you know who I got? I got Asia. Yeah. I got Asia. I got Chelsea Gray. I got Jackie Young. Hey, we're going to, I'm going to come down there, man. We're going to go to a game. Yeah. Yeah. What's up, Joe? Where we going? Hey, Joe, you ever, you ever been to a dream game before? Hell yeah. I'd have been a few. Hey, boy, I went to one, remember, remember, I went to the dream game that one time? Yeah, you went to, yeah, you told me it was lit. Man, I ain't, Joe, I ain't never hit the same level boy DJ. Joe, I ain't never seen something like that, boy. I'm not a old Joe. It's different. It's different. I'm at the women's games. The dream is different out here. It was nice. It was nice, Joe. It was like, like you in the club, but it's a basketball game going on and don't let it be no time out, Joe. That's how the host game is, Joe. That's how the host game is. Can you imagine what imagine on steroids? So imagine the host. That's how it is. Yeah. What? They dressed up like the club, Ocho. Yes, Lord. Oh, we're going down. Damn. Yeah. I know. I know you. You look like the club. Yeah. I know you happy. You know, you, you're gonna have Cambodia with you. You ain't, you, you're gonna have them blind as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Joe, hey, I should have. Cambodia, you ain't doing that. We're gonna keep it clean, Cambodia. Yeah. He was trying to get us to go to Houston, but I like. Hey, Joe, I could have won the team. My credit card declined. It is Houston thing. Anything that got Houston on it, it declined. Hey, Joe, I could have won my cheater pan to the game, huh? Yeah, you could have won, Ocho. Hey, when nobody had these things on, wait, look, because it really ain't gonna hurt you to look at the menu. You ain't trying to order nothing. You know what I mean? Matter of fact, Joe, I ain't even gonna look at the menu, Joe. You ain't gonna look. I mean, you got eyes, Ocho. I got eyes, but hey, hey, the stuff on the menu ain't nothing like what I got now. Yeah, I know. I know. I get it. I get it. I mean, Ocho, just cause you ordered a wagyu, but sometimes you look at the chicken parm, you're like, damn, maybe I just, you know, I'm just saying, don't you just look at you. It doesn't mean you can't read the menu. You can't order again off the menu. I can't read. I can't read. I can't read. I ain't mad at you, Joe. You know, I've been, I've been in Atlanta, Joe. We might have to go, you know, go to do something. Yeah. We gotta go check them out. No. You don't mean you go. You don't mean you hang the weekend. Oh yeah. Say less. What you want to do? Oh, we going this weekend? No. We gonna go by. Joe, I talked to your line. Yeah. I do. Yeah. But as we were saying, I think this is a great fit. ATL Peach Barbie. Yeah. Y'all put me in the group chat. Hey, I do want to check out that little spot you were talking about though. That one little spot. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Say no more. Yeah. Hey, I pay. I pay for us. No. No. No. I pay. I pay. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Hey, Joe, you got my message today on Instagrams and Twitter. Yeah. I say, okay. I see you in there doing your little yummy. Yeah, Joe. Boy, that's your name. That shit ain't enough though. I'm gonna keep it real with you. Okay. Ain't no, ain't enough. I'm just letting you know. You know my reach. You know my reach. My reach. You know what I mean? Hey, Joe. Joe, I'm coming up under that. I'm coming up under all that now. You see how Fodor done uh, uh, keep thumbing. Hey, my last name in there and my last name's Johnson. But I was talking basketball. I was talking basketball. But if you want to go that route, I mean, we just gotta get the, we just, in order for us to really hang out, oh, Joe, we gotta get the fade out the way. That way I can feel good about myself. Cause it's going to be hard for me to hang out with you, you know, knowing you the high side of me. You the high side of me. And I pose you just live with it. Like I, I, I just need three minutes, bro. Then, you know, I get your hug. I still love you. Hey, hey, honestly, honestly, Joe, what's up? Like you probably ain't going to want to be my friend, you know, cause I'ma turn your ass every way, but loose. You hear me? Hey, Joe. Hey, hey, listen, you, I love you like a little brother, man. You know, but I mean, it is, it is what it is. I'm trying to hoop. Okay, we can hoop. We can hoop. Hey, what I want to see is I want to see you catch that ball in the block, in the low post or the high post and try to do all the moves you be doing. That's cheating. I ain't going to even post you up. That's not. No, no, no, no, no. It's not cheating, Joe. It's not. My strength is my lower body, my lower extremity. So I'm ready up here. I'm good. Hey. I don't think, I don't think, I don't think your lateral movement. They agree. That's why I'm going to get you moving side to side and I get to hit you with that. That you ain't going. Joe. Time out. Time out. Joe. You talking to the, you talking to the person with the greatest feet ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Yeah, you good in a straight line. Like, no straight line, Joe. I'm good. You got football feet. Joe, you got no boxing feet. He ain't shuffling. He ain't keeping nobody in front of. All right. Okay. You know, I don't even want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it in the mo. All right, let it go. You're going to get what you're looking for. Okay. You probably drunk right now. That's all. No, no, I ain't drunk. I'm feeling good. Yeah. We got a little buzz going on too. Hey, you see me. I got my little portée too. I see. I see. I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. You over there. Joe reminiscing about high school. Ocho talking about college. Y'all tripping bro. High school was fun, man. It was. It was fun. But once I left, I really, you know, that was it for your boy. I mean, you know, I like I said, like when I left, my girlfriend was still in college. I mean, I'm still in high school. Mine too. Yeah. When I was a freshman. Hey, damn, I wonder what, hey, what am I? Is it weird to wonder where your girlfriend from high school lives at this point? I mean, I haven't thought about it. Right. I mean, I mean, we talking about it. I just wonder how she's doing. I wonder if she's okay. I'm curious. Well, I mean, last, last I heard she had two, she had two kids, I mean, her kids grown now. Right. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, I don't tell you my high school, my college girlfriend, she had two more kids. Right. They're grown. I mean, close to being grown. Yeah. But no, I mean, hey, that's crazy. Joe, when I think about it, Joe only did it to people in high school. Yeah. Yeah. Literally. I'm like, like dead serious really only two people. That don't mean you ain't shag nobody just because you date. Okay, date you had two girlfriend, but that don't mean you ain't put it down. All right. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about I'm talking about serious dating, obviously my oldest daughter, I dated her mom in high school and one other person after that. And other person after that, I'm curious. How old is your oldest? 27. Oh, so you got a child with your high school sweetheart? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She took advantage of me, Joe. You were young. Didn't know no better. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, I was irresistible back then, Joe. If you think I look good now, you should have seen me in high school, Joe. Hey, you laid up where you man. Yeah, I was. I was a little funny looking dude back then. I was funny looking back. Hey, Joe, I could drip. I put that thing on, Joe. I'd be out there clean with my clogs and my ballets, my polo sets. You know, my Tommy Hill figure set, Joe. You know, my jeans starved up to the tee with the white tee with the, with the, hey, Joe, I was clean, Joe. But you had, you had as weak pullout game, didn't you, man? Yeah. I couldn't even pull out of the driveway, Joe. You hear me? But you got to understand. Yeah, you know that, Joe, whatever. Hey, but you got to understand, there was a method to my manager. I only had kids with people that were athletic. That's what's up. Only I don't care how fine you is. I ain't kind of about you being an IG baddie. I ain't kind of about having that. Everyone I have a child from, understand the athletic background, they give me an advantage when it comes to my child being an athlete. That's all. Hey, Ocho, your kid's pretty competitive when it comes to you. Every, yeah, every last one. Yeah, man. Every last one. Mine's is too, bro. Out the bill. Hey, the funny thing about it, the funny thing you said about, about playing your son one-on-one, he was talking about you be cursing. Yeah. You let it go? Yeah. Yeah. And in the, in the, in the, in the Mr. Baddlin and Mr. Compete, yeah, I don't want you to lose that edge. I don't want you to lose that competitive nature. I don't want you to lose that. Listen, I don't want you to lose expressing yourself in that moment. I don't. I don't. You know what, you know what, for me, Ocho, you know, when my older son, I just feel like he can control his emotions around me. You know what I mean? Like don't tell me you can, bro, we just playing pick up. This ain't no real game. Obviously, we want to win. We competing, but for you to just be f-bombing and. Yeah. I love that. I love that. That ain't happening. Because listen, ain't no, ain't no, ain't no way, Joe. Ain't no way my kids would talk like that in front. No sir, that ain't gonna happen. We playing a sport. I ain't trying to. I don't know what we playing. We playing a sport. I want you acting the same way I act. I ain't got time for all that. Don't be cursing all that. No, I ain't got time for all that. Be you. Express yourself. I'm sorry. I can't do it with you. I got you. I got you. I got you. You like me, Joe. No sir, Rhee. Yeah. Hey, yo. Hey, let one sir. I say, what you going to bed? What are you doing up? Oh, my bad daddy. Okay. Okay. You still doing up? Don't do that. I understand. You 30. Yeah. You gonna talk like that in front of me now? No, you're not. Hey, I'm saying wait, man. I ain't look. No, bro. I'll tell you, it's been three years since me and my older play pick up together. He was 16. Yeah. Yeah. Joe, I'm about to be 58. I pay my mom bills. I don't come in front of my mama. That's what I'm saying. You think you fit in the cousin front of me? I still pay half your bills. Hey, oh, no. Hey, oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. Why ain't cursing in front of my mama, my grandma, my granddad? No. Hold on. I ain't cursing in front of my, hold on. You think I could curse in front of Bessie Mae Flowers? I can curse in front of Paul and Tristan. I ain't cursing in front of me either. But I'm, when it, when it comes to competing on that field, man, Joe, I told you, Joe, I ain't wear mouthpiece for a reason. And it just, it's thought when I got to leave, man, I started in an optimist. Boy, my grandma look at me sideways when I say ass. I think, great, it's in the Bible, but it ain't in there like that. Oh, no, no. Yeah. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't think about my, I couldn't even fix my mouth to say, uh, S O B a mo for what? G D. No. No. That ain't what happened. I'm sorry. Yeah. It don't sit well with me neither. I'm talking about, I can't even focus on the game no more here. I've been dropping them F bombs and B's and all of that. I'm like, Hey, hey, see, hey, you know what? You know what that tell me? Hey, uncle. And, and, and, Hey, uncle, this would have tell me when I'm playing him, all I got to do is cuss his ass out. Do you know what I mean? I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be in your head. I mean, you, you grown as hell. I'm done by my damn son. Well, well, well, well, well, I'm, you're going to be my son when I'm done with you. You gonna be my son when I'm done with you. I'm gonna get in your head, Joe. I'll play like that. Okay. Joe B a Joe. I think you know what I, oh, Joe from the South, but me and your background, we got a lot of similarities, Joe. We got a lot of similarities. I play, I'll play like that. I think it's the canceling us. You know, we, we good people, bro. It's just some, some stuff we just ain't going to tolerate. I'm a good person. I'm a good person too. I'm a good person too, Joe. A hell no. I know in the funny part, oh, Joe, I know we always talk about this. But damn, I worry about my son because y'all got the same birthday. So he kind of, you know, that's my dog. That's my dog, Joe. Sometimes I can't even, I can't even form a complete sentence without cursing, Joe. I can't. You know, it's hard for me because it's always been a part of my vernacular. Okay. I have an extensive vocabulary, Joe. I just, I just, when you ever you curse, hey, it's like me, it's like me, right? I'm talking to y'all and I say, you know what, Uncle Joe, man, I love y'all, man. Now it means something, but when you say, hey, Uncle Joe, man, I fucking love y'all. See, that effing, it adds emphasis on the meaning of what I'm trying to get across to y'all, and it means a lot more. Now I consider and call those sentences, answers. So when you cook, Uncle, you know how to cook, Joe, you know how to cook. It's like cooking with no seasoning. Cursed words is nothing but the seasoning and it adds flavor to what you're trying to get across. That's all.