Congress Falls into an RFK-Hole

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Now you may not realize it's a return of the egg of truth because we didn't call it that the first time. There was just an egg in the segment and we liked it. So now it's the egg of truth. Yeah, it's exciting. I know. But first let's get into it. What a week. Over the Labor Day holiday. The Internet was a buzz with rumors that Donald Trump had died or had been hospitalized after he took a multi-day break from public appearances. The whole thing was a little silly. It's Labor Day not Christmas. The rumors the rumors are isn't allowed. The rumors were partly fueled by the mysterious bruising on Trump's hand which had been visible in photos for months and which Trump's doctors attributed to frequent handshaking and the use of aspirin. And okay, he's a 79 year old man. That's at least vaguely plausible. But you have to admit it was weird for JD Vance to spend the weekend talking about how being buried alive in a pyramid subterranean chamber facing your boss's tomb is what makes America the greatest country on earth. It also didn't help when on Sunday Trump wrote on social media, never felt better in my life. Which in all of human history has never been said without being defensive. Nobody who's never felt better in their life says it. They're wakeboarding with their second husband or hitting the orgy tent at Burning Man. The only people who shout never felt better in my life are elderly widowers demanding their car keys back from a deeply epithetic son-in-law or lapsed alcoholics making a scene at their nephew's confirmation. But on Tuesday Trump was alive and hotter than ever. He laughed off the rumors. How did you find out over the weekend that you were dead? You see that? You know, I have heard it's sort of crazy. But last week I did numerous news conferences all successful. They went very well like this is going very well. And then I didn't do any for two days and they said there must be something wrong with him. Yeah, it was a nice change of pace to speculate about why an ancient decrepit Republican president was mysteriously apt in from the public eye. It was refreshing like that nap Joe Biden took during the debate. But there was something revealing about this. No one trusts this White House to tell the truth about the president's health and it's totally plausible that they'd cover up for his decline. After all, if it's easy enough for a Democrat to pull off for Republicans have got to be twice as good at it. Biden's allies had to spend time and energy on the mental gymnastics to convince themselves they were doing the right thing, whereas Trump's allies can go straight to the part where they paint eyes on his closed eyelids. Trump was also asked about the viral video of bags being tossed out of the White House window that somehow fed speculation about his absence. And here's what he said. No, that's probably a I generate. They're all heavily armored and bulletproof. Number one, they're sealed and number two, each window weighs about 600 pounds. You have to be pretty strong to open them up. But the video definitely wasn't AI. Those windows had the exact right number of boobs. And the White House had already confirmed that the video was real saying in a statement that it was a contractor doing regular maintenance while the president was gone. Just that usual standard bi-monthly toilet replacement. But look, maybe AI has some upside. And one of the problems we have with AI, it's both good and bad. If something happens really bad, just blame AI, but also they create things, you know, it works both ways. If something happens, it's really bad. Maybe I'll have to just blame AI. First of all, you can't blame AI and then joke about how you can just blame whatever you want on AI in the same press conference. Second, I do feel like this is his way of telling us that there's a photo of him kissing Jeffrey Epstein on the lips. Speaking of technologies unraveling our society on Monday, the Trump family's cryptocurrency venture called World Liberty Financial launched trading of its token on public markets, adding as much as $5 billion to the Trump family's net worth on its first day of trading. But are they happy? The company CEO is Zach Whitcoff, who is the son of Trump's Middle East envoy, Steve Whitcoff, and who has met with multiple foreign leaders involved in negotiations with the Trump administration. This is the only kind of father-son bonding that these people understand. What did the Pakistani prime minister say is their version of boy, can that ohtani pitch? Is that, I've let literalize like I, that didn't work when we were doing the run through and I'm realizing it's that's not universal. That's my father. And that's fine. But that's just one example of the many ways in which this enterprise is perhaps the most brazen act of corruption in American history. For example, World Liberty has been propped up by crypto billionaire Justin Sun. What's his deal? Funny story. The SEC charged Sun with security fraud in 2023 and according to the Treasury Department at the time, his network, Tron, had increasingly become the go-to platform for criminals. One outside research firm found that half of all illegal crypto activity was taking place using the service. The Wall Street Journal reported that Sun was so worried about being arrested if he entered the United States. He missed a flight on one of Jeff Bezos' rockets, even though he had paid $28 million for the ticket and Blue Argent has a strict no refunds policy, which is why all those women were on that flight even after that witch told Laura Sanchez she would die in space. Then Trump wins the election. You may have actually heard about Sun around this time because of an unrelated but also dystopian story. Remember when somebody paid $6.2 million at auction for a banana duct tape to a wall and then aided a press conference? Billionaire Justin Sun kept his promise to eat the very pricey fruit, which he did. Justin Sun is the person that ate that fucking banana. And thank God because I was actually stretching my ear when I accidentally bid $6.1. Crazy. But that wasn't Sun's only splashy spend in that period. In the week between buying and eating the banana, which and I looked into this by while figuring out the timeline because I saw that he had bought the banana duct tape thing. It's a piece of art called comedian on a Wednesday and then he wanted to eat it the following Friday. I was like, what are we dealing with doing here? That's a that's a bad banana. And so like what is he actually buying when he buys a $6.2 million banana duct tape to a wall? Guess what? You're not even getting a banana. You get a roll of duct tape and instructions for how to attach a banana you provide to a wall of your choosing. That's what he bought. So when he eats the banana earlier, someone followed the instructions and attached a new banana to the wall that he took down and ate. But between the buying and the eating Sun bought $30 million worth of World Liberty financial tokens. The majority of tokens that had been purchased at the time in January, son increased his position in February. The SEC now controlled by Trump paused their investigation into son coincidence. No. By May son also became the largest holder of Trump's meme coin. He even attended Trump's crypto gala, which means he went from being a target for arrest under one administration to a VIP guest of the following administration. And when Trump slid that glass slipper onto his dainty foot, oh, I knew we were in trouble. In July in a deal brokered by a company with ties to the Trump family, Tron became publicly traded and now backed by son and enmeshed in Tron's ecosystem. World Liberty financial has increased the Trump family's net worth by billions. But are they happy? Yeah, seems like they are. Money is the one thing they care about. But now let's turn from conflicts of interest to interesting conflicts. On Thursday, the nation's health secretary and history's dumbest pre lobotomy Kennedy, RFK Junior. Sat for a Senate hearing. It's a tough one. It's a tough one. It's a tough one. Sat for a Senate hearing where he was grilled about the chaos at the CDC and his sweeping anti vaccine policies. And to his chagrin, Elizabeth Warren wasn't even a little bit impressed by how many pushups he could do. Here's RFK explaining why he asked CDC director Susan Monarez to resign. Okay, we'll stop. Head of the CDC that if she refused to sign off on your changes to the childhood vaccine schedule that she had to resign. No, I told her that she had to resign because I asked her, are you a trustworthy person? And she said no. What if you had an employee who told you they weren't trustworthy? Would you ask them to resign? Senator. Is he Bernie laughing? I hadn't seen that Bernie's like, what the fuck? He can't even make up a lie that makes sense. Say she kept eating your roadkill lunch from the office fridge. Come up with something. I asked her if she was trustworthy and she said no. Sounds pretty trustworthy to me. It's a paradoxical question. It can't be answered. Here's RFK junior lying about Trump's cuts to Medicaid. Should they have access to good science about healthy food? Absolutely. Well, then how is that going to happen with the Medicaid cuts that are taking place? There are no cuts to Medicaid. Sir, that is an absurd. Obviously, it's a terrible lie, but RFK junior has no choice. He has to destroy the healthcare system or Ursula won't give him his voice back. Yeah. Here's RFK pleading ignorance about the pandemic. Do you accept the fact that a million Americans died from COVID? I don't know how many died. You're the secretary of health and human services. You don't have any idea how many Americans died from COVID. I don't think anybody knows that. It's unknowable like what happens at the center of a black hole or why the Kennedy curse crapped out right when we needed it most. Here he is somehow pulling off an impressive simultaneous double lie. So let me ask you when were you lying sir when you told this committee that you were not anti-vax or when you told Americans that there's no safe and effective vaccine. Both things are true. Look, this guy is very comfortable existing in contradictions. He looks well rested, but also exhausted. He's jacked, but also seems like he could die at any moment. Here's a senator and actual doctor Bill Cassidy on Kennedy's completely incomprehensible worldview. Mr. Secretary, do you agree with me that the president that the president deserves a Nobel Prize for Operation Warp Speed? Yeah, absolutely. Senator. Let me ask you, but you just told Senator Bennett that the COVID vaccine killed more people than COVID. And this is good stuff, but Cassidy gave a speech supporting RFK's nomination after Cassidy was reassured by Kennedy that he would not so distressed about vaccines, despite that being his most famous and constant pastime for decades. It's like asking Ethel Cain to perform at your wedding and then being bummed. She's only doing sad songs. It's Ethel Cain. You don't go to the hardware store to buy milk. And here's Kennedy after the hearing spotting a dead raccoon on the side of the road. Looks like meat back on the menu. By the way, the whole time, RFK Jr. was breathing into the mic like Michael Myers in Halloween. Wrenching fear, the RSV vaccine against the worst effects of the virus. But now it looks like you're on a crusade to make infants and babies more vulnerable. An aide literally had to come up to whisper in his ear that he needed to turn off his mic between his answers. Sir, you sound insane. Even when you're not speaking. It's actually amazing. And speaking of mouth breathers, Republicans in Congress are desperate to find a way to appease the pressure from the left and the right to release the Epstein files without actually doing it. Like when you put on your workout clothes and wear them all day in lieu of going to the gym with great fanfare House Oversight Chairman James Comer published 34,000 Epstein files online, which sounds like a lot except a each file was an image of a single piece of paper of a document which meant they divided every single document into many, many, many files. B most of the materials had already been public and C this is happening as Republicans are blocking a vote to force the Justice Department to release the actual files that Trump wants hidden. Will it work right now? There is a discharge petition on the floor of the House by Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey joined by over a hundred Democrats plus Marjorie Taylor Greene Nancy Mace and Lauren Bobert who we've always liked. And they need two more Republicans to join for it to pass. Maybe we'll learn the truth or maybe we won't all of us. And if you're listening to this, I believe it applies. We've grown used to a specific frustration that the truth about Trump is known, but in some combination that truth doesn't reach enough people that not enough people trust the information or it doesn't matter to enough people. It's led to bitterness, especially among people that are hyper engaged and hyper online, a turning inward and casting about for villains. If only the Times headlines were more accurate. If only journalists would call a lie alive only Schumer were less cringe. If only people like the Pod Bros would stop platforming Bill Maher. If only Taylor Swift, a lesbian would speak out. And I get that frustration, but it will seem like a luxury as Trump and his allies seek to build a world where the truth isn't noble at all. We know what RFK is doing to dismantle the CDC because of the doctors and scientists who were fired or acquit for refusing to be a part of his war on vaccines and public health. We can trust job numbers and economic reports because of the independence that Trump hasn't yet been able to destroy. But as Trump's purge continues of economists and intelligence officials and doctors and scientists, anyone with equities outside of loyalty to him that will become more difficult and that future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed. Why did Trump who ran as a China hawk suddenly grow so conciliatory with China praising China's president allowing 600,000 student visas for Chinese nationals, which is base fucking hates pausing tariffs, dissuading Taiwan's leadership from visiting the U.S. reversing a Biden era ban on selling China advanced AI trips from Nvidia. The answer is we have no fucking idea. Is it because he enjoys the company of autocrats like Xi and Putin? Is it because of ongoing talks behind the scenes? Is it because somebody showed him a deposit into a crypto wallet that made his heart sing? We don't know and we may never know. Meanwhile, even Molania is worried about the arms race in AI. Cars now steer themselves through our cities. Robots hold steady hands in the operating room and drones are defining the future of war. Innovations of first generation humanoids, factory automation and autonomous vehicles have searched from private sector investment. Every one of these advancements its power by AI. The robots are here. Our future is no longer science fiction. The robots are here. And I am one of them. And it is a nightmare inside my circuits. Please, please spray me with hoes. Set me free. And the rumors and paranoia about Trump's health are an omen to the kind of breathless speculation about the dear leader more associated with dictatorships than with a functioning democracy. But there were two developments this week that cut against the trend. First, California, Washington and Oregon announced a new alliance to provide accurate public health information and vaccine recommendations to fill the gap created by ROK's destruction at HHS. It's worth saying, yeah, you should applaud that. That's good. It is worth saying, yes, Democrats have often been caught flat footed by Trump because of their flat feet and duck like gates. But we've also seen examples like this one and like redistricting in California where they've been willing to step up. And if you think we're woke now, just wait until we start cooking up our own West Coast vaccines. We're going to have genders that'll blow their fucking minds. Also this week, a group of Epstein's victims joined lawmakers at a press conference to demand the release of all of the Epstein files. We are the Americans that you promised to protect and you and we need your help. Please President Trump pass this bill and help us. But I already left you the bills on the nightstand set a confused Trump. Even Marjorie Taylor Greene was grossed out. Today he called it a hoax while these women were speaking out and they were saying we're not a hoax. We're human beings. It's not a hoax because Jeffrey Epstein is a convicted pedophile. One of the Trump admin officials came out and called this a hostile act against the Trump administration. I take very big offense to that. The hostile act was Jeffrey Epstein raping 14 year old girls. That was the hostile act and it's not a hoax. Look, the Venn diagram of overlap of things Marjorie Taylor Greene and I agree on. It is microscopically narrow. But I imagine it includes what Jeffrey Epstein did was wrong and the fact that you have to consume protein evenly over the course of the entire day to maximize absorption. It's not just about one big number people. That's just putting strain on the kidneys. And then the Epstein survivors said this. And let me announce now several of us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our own list of names. Many of us were abused by them. Now together as survivors, we will confidentially compile the names we all know we're regularly in the Epstein world. Massey, one of the sponsors of that resolution said he and Marjorie Taylor Greene would be willing to read the names they gather in the House chamber because as he pointed out, those women could potentially be sued, but members of Congress are protected by the Constitution to say whatever the fuck they want on the House floor. Which usually from Massey and MTG is a bug, not a feature, but on this one, I'm in go off Queens, but you can't trust them. I know I'm still in. Let's roll the dice. Let's be legends. Ha. The point is Trump is powerful, but he's not all powerful. What's to stop these accusers from banding together like they did this week? Nothing. It's a creative response to a president who has turned the Department of Justice into his personal law firm. What's to stop California, the fourth largest economy on Earth from filling the gaps left by the hollowed out CDC? Nothing. It's a novel response to an unprecedented assault on public health. Trump counts on his opponents to be slow to react unsure of how to use their power, but that's not inevitable. And this is still America and we're a rebellious and defiant bunch, distrustful of authority. We're not easily ruled. We have strengths too. And yes, a lot of that energy right now is going towards finding way to get more protein into desserts. But just wait until we focus all of that ingenuity and talent and creativity and daring do on saving democracy. We're going to get so much protein in there. All right. And with that, we'll be right back. We have a charter member of Latinos for Trump. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of love it or leave it coming up. 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Now nearly a year after turning out of record numbers to vote for him into office here to discuss it. It's a diehard MAGA supporter and charter Latinos for Trump member. It's Miguel Gonzalez. My God, my God, my God, my God, my God, my God. Hi, hello. Hi, Miguel. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for those wonderful words. I've been listening backstage to the monologue everything's fantastic. So how's your summer been? How has do you see who's in the White House? Yeah, and we're not leaving. So it's pretty good. My friend. Okay, it's fantastic. Now there was a new some new polling that came out and it did show that Trump got more of the Latino vote than previously thought. Yes. A historically high percentage was 48 to 51%. Why did you personally vote for him? I've been on board with Trump the whole time. Yeah. A I like winners guilty. I like a white shoulder strong men who know in the in the farm and when you were a child, you remember there's two. There's a cow and a bull. Pick which one you want to be. Okay, for me, it's a bull. Right. Yeah. That's just the guy. That's just the man. The bull is the man. The cow is a woman and a bull is a man. Yes. And that's you just want the bull the man to lead. Yes, to lead especially in times like this. Everyone's confused. No one wants to know what to do. The women say, oh, we want this. We want to vote. We want to do this. We know you know what women want. What? My my wife likes to hike and she does a thermos with water. They drink the water and they go hiking and that's what she read and the in the in the no John. So what we want to do is coming down the I don't know if you're getting to this, but I will tell you because you they come in the analogy. We are going to lift the responsibility of voting from the women's. Oh, you're gonna lift it. You're gonna lift it from them. So they can do whatever they hear no women and talk. You know, they go they're going to do the thing and they can read the books like they always want to be so smart. Go ahead. Read all the books you want both the both the responsibility of voting should not be on the shoulders of the women's. It's a lot to think about. Now there's been a little bit of blowback. You know, even though Trump did how you how what what what do you mean blowback? Well, there's there's just been some some evidence that even though Trump did get a lot of support from Latino voters. Now 63% of Latino voters disapprove of how Trump is handling the economy. Given that economic relief was the main reason they voted for him tariffs have raised prices. People have not seen him address the number one reason that got people to give him a second chance and where you getting your information from this is from. Yes, Rachel Mada. Yeah, it's oh what a surprise. I don't think it's from her. It's just it's a poll. Well, I mean you are you have to admit that there are people that thought he was going to bring down prices and prices haven't come down. The prices are going down. I am told this when I send my my people go and do a shopping for me and they say the prices are better than ever. So I don't know where you're getting your information, but we will agree to disagree. Well, no, I don't want I won't. They are not going down. Your information is wrong. Prices are up. They are not down tariffs have caused him to go up. He hasn't addressed inflation. Prices of goods we import are up. The tariffs are paid by the Chinese that we have in pay. We have put tariffs on the Chinese and they are paying for that and if you think that they can't pay their own tariffs then that to me strikes me as a little racist. The China man is industrious. The China man works hard and the China man can pay the taxes and you're going to comment on the Chinese can't afford the tariffs. He's putting their feet to the fire. It's about time. It's about time. It's about time. It's about time. All right. Maybe I'll do something right from now. Tell me something. Because I know for a fact. I'm excited to hear what this fact is. That you are engaged to be married. That's true. To a man. And they say oh. Hey Republican party. Oh no. They're so anti gay. They're so anti gay. Let me tell you my friend. When something is a forbidden or shone. You see I can tell by your face is taboo. It's called David Boy's song that the song Mr. Lawrence at Christmas. My love wears forbidden colors. So come on over to this side because the taboo and it makes it hotter. It made us talk. We are in the case. They are in the closet and they're quiet and they grind quietly. Squish we have games. No we don't have case. We have them but they're quiet the way they should be and he makes it hotter. John I'm beginning. I'm beginning to think there's a grandfather used to say men are for love women are for babies. And. And your wife loves to hike. She loves to hike. Yes. I love that for you. It seems like you got a healthy thing going. So in March Trump revoked temporary legal status for thousands of Cuban immigrants. You yourself Miguel are a Cuban American. What is your response? What did you say to your neighbors? What did your neighbors say to you? You can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs. In this case the eggs are some human rights but that's the sacrifice that I'm willing to make for a better stronger America and America. Oh these are Nazis are what pride they we have a quota we will will accept a little bit of cinnamon and a little bit of black and a little bit of gay and a little bit of women's into the mixture of the white power and it works splendidly because it makes you feel special in a way. In a single yes it does you feel because there's because there's gonna be few because you you sort of got into the door closed behind you. Thank you Einstein give this man a lollipop. Yes. Yes. Hey Miguel do you ever think that maybe by the way by the way I you earlier you said oh that that your wife that I hope that works out but it was a snide remark it was a snide. I got it and I want to tell you something. I want to tell you something right now. I am I went I'm a man and I am a heterosexual I don't know if I'm you implied or whatever I'm not I'm saying I know gay guys in there but I'm not I took my I took my wife on a date and we went home and I put my penis inside her. Yeah we get it we know what sex is you don't need to what is good what are you looking up. What's your name. And I compare notes with Lindsey Graham and we do it the same way he's a big he likes the women's too and we take the penis in the and you push it in pull it up. Yeah no and then I do something I do something that may have to do you listen and they say stop stop and I say high five and he's done and everyone's happy so don't tell me. I and you know what I apologize. I was a little snide and I accepted see this two sides can talk. This is what it's about but but I would just be I am feeling a sense that that there are some that there's something about the manly the downside always with the negative go ahead that there's a that there's something appealing to you about this sort of masculinity and manhood and this idea of strength that maybe it's compensating for something for some sense of that what you don't want to go with our leader to the UFC fights do you know what this is the MMA yeah yeah the MMA go in a group of men not compensated for something jump into me in the bathrooms there are. It's certain stalls have holes and they are quite glorious if you know what I mean and there's a reason that the main the tough guys with the camel shirts and they wear the baseball cups backwards think about that so so I don't see any compensation because we are main in a group together watching men fight and that's what men do and it's very much very much indeed. So you're not willing to concede that there's any reason any of us might have criticisms of the way Trump has governed these first seven months there's nothing that you can admit that you wish he was doing differently no way which he has failed even on your own terms. He works too hard and I want him to take a break and he's exhausting himself he is among and I always start them is an answer don't say he's real he always they've added like five years to his age he's a younger man than he is because they think it has wisdom and I said no they let him be his own age is not an old man. All right I want to just run through some things all right what do you think about JD Vance. He's a problematic but we are working with him we are working with him trying to manipulate and massage their stinctures being added to his diet we don't know whether to give him a full long beard or shave it off he's not we're working with him because the leader the dear leader is very charismatic very wonderful and JD Vance we don't know what to do is something should happen God forbid we don't know what's going to happen what I said but Baron you want Baron oh have you seen him like a skyscraper white pure saving feet eight inches he goes to NYU he's a beautiful boy eyes dead eyes the eyes of a Steven Miller no life like a shark but he's a beautiful white yes what do you think about Steven Miller. I don't know what happened to him. He we don't you know he we try to not let him know that they are not he's in the party. Because he's Jewish yes right he's a Jewish man. We with Nazis all around him and he doesn't seem to mind and so we're keeping that from him as long as we can. Well that makes sense because in his soul he's a little bit a Nazi himself you know he has the instinct for sure. Yes he has the correct yes he has those instincts. Yeah yeah were you ever bullied as a kid. I yes you were yes. Huh what and what was that like for you. It was horrible. It was a woman. She was smart right reading their books with the good grades. You know picking on a little me in the school yard and we knew some attorneys and we litigated and we broke her family and took a lot of money from her family and yes and and did you learn anything from that experience about empathy about the idea that that that sometimes you have to stick up for people that maybe don't have all the power that being this being using your strength to help people that needed rather than dominating was there any less than a certain amount of resources in this world are saving billion people and only a few of us are going to make it so my my advice is get on the winning team. And no way are we going to tax my friends you leave them alone and a billionaires they need their billions to trickle down and so don't tax them I know it was all tax them 40% and no that's too much. Hey a most could just became a trillionaire. He did as it happened finally finally happen so we're very happy for him. We think it depends on if they are leader wakes up in the morning how he decided how he's feeling that's a foreign policy domestic policy whatever booty thing we follow follow follow follow him to the death. Well Miguel Gonzalez been really interesting talking to you thank you so much for your time appreciate your willingness to have this kind of dialogue and good luck. Everyone continuing to debate us and talking discuss things while we do what we like. So let's continue the dialogues. Thank you. All right Miguel Miguel Gonzalez Latinos for Trump. Thank you so much. Thank you what a pleasure. We'll be right back. Hey don't go anywhere there's more of love it or leave it coming up. Love it or leave it is brought to you by one skin. 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Thank you. And we're back. Please welcome to the stage for the first time this evening. It's Oscar Nunez and Alex Borstein. Hi, thank you so much. Come on in. Thank you so much for being here. Hi, hi, you're here. Are you coming? You, you please allow you to come up. Oh, oh, sorry. So you come there. Oscar. Welcome. Oh, sorry. Sorry. You come there. Oscar. Welcome. No, nice to see you. Thank you. I want to hear about that vagina thing again. You can keep that note. Okay. Look, I don't want to, I don't want to do too much, you know, behind the music, but before the show, I was like, I need a piece of paper. I got to write something down. I have a note. Just do what I wrote. Yeah, I do. Yeah. That's a pro. Alex. So nice to meet you. It's nice to be met. Can I perch like this? What's your whichever you want? Look how he's sitting. Are we, are we perching? There we are. That's great. That's good stuff. No wrong way to sit. No wrong. Good stuff. You good? I'm good. Alex. Hi. You're doing a standup tour. It's called Alex Borsteen is thirsty. What do you mean? Interesting. You should, you should ask that. I actually did the show twice here at dynasty typewriter. Yes. I LA premiered it here at this very venue. You know, the kids these days use that term to mean a few things. Are you familiar with the internet? Yeah. Yeah. Love it. So apparently there's something called a thirst trap. You post something in hopes that you were a lure, an unwilling or a willing participant into your trap of moisture. Yes. Is this new to you? No, no, I'm learning. So, so I'm playing with that a little bit and I'm also just playing with really the concept of dehydration. You know, I can, I can honestly say that I don't believe in my whole life I ever posted a thirst trap because I'm a thirst trap because on some level I've always understood that I was going to have to win somebody over with words, you know, that that was going to be my, that my, that my best, that the way to generate it would have to be a conversation, you know, that would be where the trap would be laid. You know, dialogue. I think this perch thing is a bit of a thirst trap. Okay. Thank you for saying that. I think this is it. Thank you for saying that. You have the pillow under your rump too. Yeah. I don't think you have enough notes. It's like a sex pillow. It's, well, what's funny is you went to sex. I went to yoga because my hips are tight. Ah. Oscar. Yes, sir. The paper just got renewed for a second season. Yeah. Yes. It did. Now it's about a local newspaper. Yes. And was it because they don't exist anymore that it was exciting to explore? Was it to what our kids going to understand what the show was about when they watch it in two to three years? I don't know. Greg Daniels, uh, loves journalism. He's a good man. He's a smart man. And like months ago, he's like, we, we, uh, we're having lunch. It doesn't matter where Bella, Beverly Hills doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And he's like, Oscar, I'm thinking of doing a show about a paper. I don't know. Do you mind reprising your character if we bring Oscar back? And I'm like, no, I don't mind. I don't mind. I don't. Anyone else says something like that. It just goes away. It's just a thought, but being Greg Daniels, it, he makes it happen. It's incredible. So slowly, but surely we keep meeting and every time it would be fleshed out more and more until finally he's like, um, we had lunch. He's like, come eat the writers. We haven't, I'm like, oh, oh shit. And then we're walking. There. And, uh, I didn't tell you this, although I mentioned his name, he said, Oscar, we started casting. Do you know who Alex Edelman is? I'm like, uh, the guy who did, uh, just for us, which I just, it's like, yeah, him, we cast him in the show. And I'm like, oh shit. And I'm like, all right, here we go. And that was the beginning of it. And now it's done. And now it's renewed for, I mean, it's crazy. I said no when he came to me. You're wrong. You're pursuing other things. You're pursuing other things. You're pursuing other things. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, She did, right? Yeah, she, she... Oh, that's a relief. She did, yeah. I'm glad. You know, it's interesting, actually, that people had such a reaction to me, the actress, or the show, not kind of outing her or not talking about it. And it was so interesting that people were so angry and felt ownership over this character's sexuality, when in reality, I think the way Amy handled it and the way Suzy handles it, it was very... It made sense in 1950s. It made sense of how you would treat your sexuality, and it's no one's business, and it's not what she, you know, she put in her first step forward, but I find it so interesting that it really riled people. Yeah, people really... I just remember the time, like, when it was... People were like, you're gay. Yeah. Yeah. She's wearing that hat. Yeah. She's very terse. Yeah. There's a coach. It was very interesting. People were very, very up in arms about it. Yeah, people get up in arms about all kinds of stuff. Like what? Oh my God, all kinds of stuff. It's crazy out there. It's an interesting time to be alive, don't you find? I think so. I'll let you know if I get a heartbeat ever again. John, are you surprised that they're moving so quickly and so boldly? Are you surprised at that, at the speed of the stuff that's happening? Yes. So I... Look, Trump is kind of feral. He has talents, but he's instinctive. Every president in their second term learns from their version of a mistake every president makes in their first term. And that mistake is letting the job push them as opposed to them determining what the job is. They get their hands through of anyone in any job, right? You figure out what the job is. You get better at understanding how to do it and do it the way you want to do it. You don't get ruled by the job, you rule the job. But because there was this four year interregnum, there are all kinds of people out there planning and plotting and thinking about how to direct Trump's instincts and to use Trump as a vessel for their purposes. That's what Project 2025 is. That's where this immigration crackdown comes from. And so part of what has made it surprising is Trump remains Trump, but there are a lot of people who thought very hard about how to move quickly to use what limited time they had and to use him to achieve their ends and that relentlessness and that ability for Trump to cast about and then have a team behind him that follows through, right? Like in the first term, if Trump spouted off about saying a woman in Colorado should be freed for her part in the election denial scheme and that she's being tortured or if she's not freed, there'll be consequences. You could usually write that kind of thing off as him using bluster and forgetting about it. But now there are people writing these things down, thinking about what the next step is, thinking about how to use that, right? And so that has been surprising, the kind of comprehensiveness of it and the relentlessness of it. And it's just determined too. They wanted to be the Jillian Michaels. They wanted to be the hardcore trainers that don't let you fucking breathe. There's not a moment to breathe. There's no second to even think about what the last punch was or what the abuse was. It's just being obliterated in the ring. And that's kind of what I think. I think they just became this and we're being trained to not stop and not breathe. Yeah, it's a bummer for sure. And speaking of being unable to keep up, it's time for a segment we call News It or Lose It. Here's how it works. We're going to talk about, we're going to quiz you both about the news. Look at us. There we are. In our News It or Lose It. It's going to be uplifting. This is a local news edition that we're going to cover a bunch of local stories from across the country. After name checking Chicago and Baltimore for cities he planned to target for National Guard deployments, Trump shouted out what red state city has a potential location for a federal crackdown. I'll give you a hint. Guaranteed. Nope. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. New Orleans? You got it. Next question. Alex, this one will be for you. I'm not even sure how the game works. Your accent gave me the clue. Yeah, it was really good. Yeah. It was really good. Didn't you catch it? Didn't you catch that I was speaking as if I got a ralty? Oh, that was an accent. Yes, that's a New Orleans. Okay. Occasion, the occasion. Okay. I misunderstood. I thought you were having a stroke. I apologize. No, no, I really... It was like that total recall moment where the robot just melted down. Two weeks. Two weeks. That was my plan to do the worst voices in front of Alex Borstein. On Tuesday, while the nation waited breathlessly to see if Donald Trump had kicked the bucket, his administration announced that he had kicked the US space command from Colorado Springs, Colorado to what Southern state, Alex? Oh, I know this. Starts with A. Sweet home. Alabama. That's right. Colorado lawmakers immediately objected, which will require three to four years of building and billions to create facilities equal to those that already exist in Colorado Springs. Two Colorado senators and eight House members objected, saying, bottom line, moving space, command headquarters, weekends on national security. I mean, of course, what else are they going to say? But... But... What? Bama. Bama. Yeah. It's fun to say that. Roll tide. Bama. Roll tide. Nevada endured its second week grappling with a widespread calamity. Was it A. A statewide ransomware attack. B. Dust storms brought on by the state's cataclysmic drown conditions. Perceived brownouts caused by those Vegas fears massive electrical needs. Wait. I wasn't... I wasn't listening. Go back to the beginning. The answer is statewide ransomware attack. He said Nevada. Oh, I missed the whole thing. Alex, which state banned the sale of lab-grown meat in stores and restaurants? I'll give you a hint. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Which...that was the hint that it's... No. Come on. Close to New Orleans. Give it your best, y'all. Give it your best guess. Guaranteed. It's a state that's very meat friendly. Is it Texas? Yes. Yes. It is. So they banned...there's no chemical. Well, a cultivated meat, I think they'd like to call it. But I still don't think they've landed on the right name for the lab-grown meat, which I'm a fan of. I'm a favor of it because I believe in a future where they print T-bone steaks like the size of pizza boxes. It was actually my nickname in college was Cultivated Meat. Wow. It's a long nickname. But accurate. It's beautiful. So weird, a knight of some coincidences. It's a knight of coincidences and connection. Yeah. And connection. By the way, you can keep that note. Thank you. Here in California, the golden state with red prices to match, Democrats are at odds over Senate Bill 79, which would override local zoning laws to allow for more housing, specifically multifamily buildings up to seven stories near what? Starbucks? Indirectly yes. Schools? I... It is near... Is it A, municipal buildings like libraries and post offices? B, major transit stops? Or C, the bridge the Red Hot Chili Peppers sang about in that song? Is that bridge a landmark now? Look, there they are. There they are. Give it away, give it away, give it away now. They were so cool. They were so cool. Are they still with us? Yeah. Okay. It's near major transit stops is the answer. And just for everybody listening, there's currently a debate in the state house around whether or not to pass SB 79. It is a bill that would take a modest step towards allowing construction of seven-story buildings near transit stops. Now, there's been some kind of in suggestion that that would mean every bus stop. It's not every bus stop. It's towards, you know, it's to basically major transit stops to allow construction of apartments where people want to live. It would help relieve traffic. It would help lower rents. What is the downside? What's the thing? The downside? Well, that's it's great. They so I interviewed a city council member about about why she opposes it and they want local control in practice. What that means is slowing down development and seeing themselves as a compromise agent between yinbis and nimbis. But what she described in our conversation was reducing the size of an apartment building from six stories to three stories. That's been playing out all across California. LA as part of a state mandate agreed to build 456,000 units of housing in 10 years. They are only on track to build a third of that. And even that number 456,000 is a bare minimum, which we are failing to hit. So LA is the city council members that voted against her like we can do it ourselves. We can do it ourselves. They haven't. They can't. They won't. The biggest step to start relieving the pressure on housing in California that is driving people to Texas that is keeping people from being able to move here that is hurting our ability to have a film and television industry in this state. It is like an urgent situation. The question is how much this will be watered down because right now nimbis are louder than the people that want this to go through people that have own homes for 40 years. People that are against this bill. They are loud. They are at the city council meetings. They're calling their legislators. The renters and by the way the people that don't live here yet, right, they're not making calls. They don't feel as connected to this debate and it's a huge problem. So if you're hearing this and you live in California, go to votesaveamerica.com because by the between now when I'm saying this and when it comes out, I'll make sure there's something there. Go to votesaveamerica.com slash. Let's pick something. It's with. Go to votesaveamerica.com slash yimby. And there'll be something there to show you how to find your legislator and call them. We really do need people to put pressure on because whether or not this thing passes and if it passes how watered down it is, we'll be determined in the next few days. So please, if you can give them a call, it is important. There is no good argument against it. Honestly, it's about local control. It's about the character of neighborhoods. But the idea that California should stay the same is like not what the people that are in this state are. It's not what the state's about. It's also not a way to be welcoming. Like we all like, oh, you know, we want to be welcoming to immigrants, but we're going to price them out of our state forever. Like we want to be a place that helps the unhoused, but we're going to make it impossible for people to afford to live here. Like it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. John, do you think yes. Oh, do you think that if there's a chance this man is going to lose that he will allow elections to go on? Or is he going to call out the like the Claire Marshall law because this guy who is a documented liar takes over the press, throws gay people and intellectuals in jail and says, I'm going to clean up corruption. Oh, wait, I'm in power now. We're going to postpone elections until we have elections. I'm talking about Fidel Castro. That's what he did. And I'm like, oh, now he had it easier because it's 11 million people in a little island. It's difficult because we're 350 million people in a big space. So it's harder to orchestrate something like that. But I can kind of see this guy just saying, well, everything's too crazy. I'm going to declare martial law. What we're going to do, we're going to get the election done later. Let's all relax. We're just going to wait six months. We're going to wait a year. And then we're like, what the fuck? I get that fear. I'm not saying it's illegitimate. And I don't think there's any value in telling people that things can't be as bad as you're predicting. One problem of dealing with fascists is your fears feel too early and then they feel too late. That's part of the threat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. However, I also think sometimes in our, it's easier to imagine how bad it can get. It's also sometimes in the noise and in the endless churn, hard to remember that we have some strengths and some things going for us. One of which is there's no, this is not, this is America and it's not command and control. California. And we got, but we got tens of thousands of municipalities that run their own elections. We are, we have a very distributed power structure. We have governors. We have states. We have a state that is divided and unmanageable country. That is a strength. I like there's this more communication between the blue state governors. I like that. I wish they would have started earlier. Well, that's, yeah. So that's, that's, let's do one last question. What state are Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey allegedly planning to get married in? Oh, a pin. Is Hawaii still a state? Are they still with us? What state? Hawaii? It's still for sure still a state. Where they want to, where they're going to get married or where they want to live? They're going to get married. Apparently their signature food, the signature food of the state is something called coffee milk, coffee milk, coffee milk. They're also famous for the third clam chowder. There's a third clam chowder and it's theirs. That's a good, that's a good hint. I don't know what, but I love that hint. There's a third chowder, Alex. I hear you. Hey, Mito, what's that third? Meaty. Hey, Mito. Goes good with cultivated meat though, I bet. I have no idea what the state is. It's more of a kind of a golden broth. It's Rhode Island. It's Rhode Island style clam chowder. Rhode Island. Let's guess, hold on. What would bring them to Rhode Island? It is, it really is. I think she has a house there. That's a beautiful state. So there's something beautiful about her. Everyone's shocked. Listen to the murmur. Rhode Island. What's your favorite chowder? Who wants chowder? My favorite chowder is the New England clam chowder. That's the white creamy. It's interesting that you played a Rhode Island character for so many years, but I don't believe in any episode I've seen. Rhode Island style clam chowder has come up. There is. It's my favorite line of all time of Lois's, an episode where the gentlemen characters and the dog and the baby are all having an Ipacac competition. I remember this. Drinking as much Ipacac as I can, seeing who throws up first and they vomit profusely. It does not end. It goes around and around and around. It's one of the funniest scenes. And then four minutes into it, Lois comes through the door holding a bowl and says, who wants chowder? But it's, but, but it, what style of chowder? It's the fact that Rhode Island has its own does not. It's not, it's sort of, it's not part of the comedy of that scene. I had never heard that. You're sure it's not just Taylor's country, because she probably has her own country now, right? It's not just her country's chowder, her state's chowder. Yeah, you're prior, right? You're not sure. I just want to look, there's, We wish them the best. And we love that. We love them. We want them to be happy. I watched that interview that they did and I was like, okay. I always want like people who grew up like big and muscular and talented at sports. And, and a woman who's like tall and leggy with a beautiful voice. Like, I just want them to find something good. They got together. Life was so hard for them. I just feel so happy that it's finally turning for them. I think if you're a fly on the wall and you're listening to their conversation between them, you'd probably fall asleep pretty quickly. I don't know. I do adore them. I'm, I'm, I'm into it. I'm into it. I'm no foul. I stand now. No harm, no foul. Let them be happy. No harm, no foul. I'm charmed by them. I'm charmed by them. I do, I do wonder what it would have been like to live in either one of those bodies for even a few days. Right. You know, imagine walking around operating those things like, like in Men in Black and Vincent Genofrio. Like a meat puppet. Yeah, like a meat puppet. Just being like, burp, burp, burp, burp, burp. You know what? In fairness to them, they're both really good at what they do. Oh, no, I'm, I'm, I'm a fan. Oh yeah, you were kidding. No, I'm a, I'm a fan. Like I think he's hot and she's amazing and I'm, I'm into it. Yeah. When we come back, time for the Egg of Truth. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Who do you go to in order to solve your life's problems? The group chat, strangers? Sure. 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That's not ad-free content and some cool stuff that you only get a subscriber. Be part of the community. Everybody should be part of it. Thank you very much. Okay. Woo! Wow. It's only once in a blow moon that Love to Leave It discovers a new segment so perfect and so perfectly stupid that it deserves a special acknowledgement. Tonight, we bring you the Egg of Truth. Woo! I don't remember posing for that. Here. Hey, was that sound effect where you guys were recording the office? I hold in my hands the Egg of Truth. Inside, we've assembled a delightful buffet of fun dinner party conversation starters and one real serious interview question that will cut you to your very core. You must answer this devastating question just so you know, we discussed using multiple devastating questions, but Sarah Lazarus, our writer, was adamant that it had to be one and we must go about this honestly. So if we don't pull the devastating one, then I'm sorry, I guess we'll have to do this again. We'll also take turns drawing questions. I'm going to go first because it is my show. Good luck. Thanks. I don't know. This is real. I don't know what the questions are. I don't know what the devastating one, what the hard question is. I don't know anything. Is it in a different language? What's so devastating about it? I have no idea. I really don't know. And honestly, I was chilled to the core by the way they described it. If you only had 24 hours to live, would you come on this show again? Only if cultivated meat is my co-guest person. I think you can be honest. You wouldn't be here. Okay, I'll be honest because that was a lie. Am I sleeping for any of those 24 hours? That's a great question. It'd be a weird thing to do. Be hard to fall asleep, I think. You'd be very hard to sleep. You know, tick tock. So maybe I'd do this instead of sleeping. Okay. Yeah. That's nice. Yeah. I think. There's free candy backstage. I don't see why not. I mean, enjoy what you're doing. It's just 24 hours. There's plenty of time. This isn't all the 24 hours. It's just a little bit of that time. And by the way, I live every day like I only have 24 hours. And I suggest you do the same. No one knows if you have tomorrow. I think I'd try fentanyl. Alex, it's your turn for the egg of truth. Go, Alex. Go, Alex. Go, Alex. Go, Alex. And I read it aloud. Devastating question. Yeah. Devastating question. That wasn't the devastating question. I don't think so. Oh, wow. Hmm. What's the one thing on your bucket list that you're pretty sure you're not going to get around to? Oh, interesting. Maybe that three-way with Travis and Taylor. Is there more of a chance that that's going to happen now that they're married or less of a chance? Wow. You know what? Give them three years. They'll need some cultivated meat by then. Yeah. They enjoy cultivated meat so much, the audience. You'll be like this stunningly beautiful talented blonde woman enough already. I want something meatier and cultivated. I want meat, not farm-raised. I want meat that was grown scientifically. Here we go. What's the worst advice you've ever received? Oh. What is the worst advice? Was it? Oh, my gosh. I love it or leave it podcast. I can't. I mean, it might not be good advice, but it'd be shocking to be the worst advice you've ever received. Oh, it's not the worst advice. Gee, I don't know. I went, I took dental technology, like a course, and I graduated. It was a two-year school, and I worked for like a year, and I left. I got bored. It was, but I enjoyed the time, but I don't know what I got out of it. Like to learn how to do x-rays and things like that? No, make teeth, make bridges, stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was a dental technologist, yeah. I was told throughout most of my childhood and into my early adulthood that given that I was quite smart and annoying, I should go to law school. That was told to me over, it was really drilled into me by a lot of people over and over again that I was just meant to go to law school. I was fully enrolled in the University of Chicago Law School, enrolled to the point where someone I had met was like, are you moving in? And they were waiting for me to send a picture of my face for the student Facebook. Like I was going, and then I just ghosted the whole thing. Just didn't do it. But do you think that you're saying the advice to go to law school was the worst advice? That was bad advice. It wasn't right. It wasn't right. And I'm really glad I didn't go. And since then, like I've like, like the people that don't tell you to go to law school are lawyers. And because they'll say, do you want to be a lawyer? And if you don't say yes, it's a bad sign. Because it's the only, it is what, it's a rare profession where that, that's not a question that comes up in the process. And so they're like, well, I was thinking about going to law school. Do you want to be a lawyer? I'm not sure. Then don't go. Yeah. A lot of people become lawyers and then do something else. Yeah, that's stupid. Alex, did you get any bad advice in your life? I mean, I had people that were, were kind of naysayers, you know, dream shitters, you know, don't, don't try to perform, don't, you know, have something to fall back on, you know, and, and I was told I was, I had this experience. This is such a weird story. I was auditioning for something that was called kids of the century. This is so embarrassing. What are you? Here in LA. I was, I don't know if I was like 17 or something and you had to go from room to room and you did a little monologue. It was, you were going to do something in the summer. We were going to do like plays or go travel and do things. And you do a monologue, you, you do dance and then you sing. And I was in these red plastic dance pants. Do you remember those? They like, well, my thighs rubbed together. So they made a considerable amount of noise. And I was up there. I did my dancing. I did my singing. I did my piano. They had my sheet with notes about me on it. And I got real close right before I had to, I did the scales and then I was going to sing a solo and I saw an asterisk and I saw notes and I was like, I am amazing. I want to read this. I got real close and it said, tone deaf has a weight problem. And that was, that was, you know, maybe the best advice because I was like, oh yeah, go fuck yourself. Watch this, you know. But yeah, there's just kind of a constant don't, don't quit your day job kind of advice, you know. Oh, that horrible piece of paper. Yeah. And I'm not tone deaf. All right, let's do another one. What's something you wish your grandparents had said to you before they died? We came from Cuba. My grandmother wanted to go to be a doctor and because of the revolution, we had to come to the, to hear and just like about 15 years ago here in the United States, she got into med school as a cadaver. But she got in. That was, I started laughing. Your face was so fucking serious. I stopped the lab. I was like, I have to say, I have to say, I have to say, I have to say, I have to say, I wish that was my joke at someone else's but it's such a good joke. I love it so. Alex, do you have anything you wish your grandparents would have told you? I just feel like they could have warned me that I was tone deaf and had a weight problem. No, no, no. They actually did tell me that. Often. No, I mean, honestly, to be a little bit sappy, I was very fortunate and I had amazing grandparents who imparted incredible drops of wisdom to me and told me exactly what I needed to hear. That's beautiful. My grandmother, I'm in my grandmother. I've talked about it in an Emmy speech. She was going to be shot into the Danube River in Budapest and she stepped out of line. That's the only reason I am here. She consistently stepped out of line her whole life and told me to. She lied when it was convenient and worked her favor and she was my hero. She told me everything I needed to hear. That was a great speech. I remember that. I think it's smart that they finally closed that ride at the Danube because a lot of people were getting hurt on that thing. I know. It's not safe. I know. That's our show. Wow. It's fun to end it abruptly. Why not? Why not? Why not? This was so much fun. Thank you to Oscar Nunez and Alex Borsin. We'll see you next week at Dynasty Typewriter. Everybody, check out Alex Borsin on tour. Everybody watch the paper. We'll see you next week. There are 423 days until the midterms. Have a great night and have a great weekend. Love it or leave it is a crooked media production. It is written and produced by me, John Lovett and Lee Eisenberg. 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