Mrs. Kasha Davis Always Has Time For A Breakdown On The Kelly Mantle Show!

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And there's always time for a cocktail, or two, or three, and a breakdown if you want to get mad with MKD. Ladies and gentledem, we're thrilled to have her here with us Mrs. Kasha Davis I love I am so grateful to be here I'm so glad somebody cancelled Oh my god, it worked out perfect She just happened to fly in this morning and someone cancelled Are you kidding me? We are so thrilled and honored to have you here with us. Thank you for joining us. Honestly, when I have been just like tuning in and just seeing you do your thing, I'm like, there she is. It's happening. This is what's supposed to happen. I love that. So it's fantastic. I love that. Thank you so much for saying that because we're having a blast even though we have no idea what we're doing. So are you here for work, play, business, pleasure? You know, it's a combo platter. Okay. my husband my darling darling husband just lost his mom and it was a long journey in that process and we were like you know what we need just some fun and of course I'm seeing what you were doing and I'm going to do some fun but then I also want to do some work because I'm a workhorse queen as you said as you are yes I mean I didn't call Morgan and do the whole underground tour none of that's happening this time the underground tour do you know what I mean you're like here there They're everywhere. Yes. I said, none of that. So we're going to do some, obviously, this with you and then some time in Palm Springs and just enjoy the sun. Are you going to see Bianca when you're in Palm Springs? Well, I hope so. She's got her, I think she's got a show on Tuesday. Oh, that's right. She's doing like, yeah. Stand up. I think it's her new show that she might be workshopping. Testing out the, you know, the Rolodex of jokes. Testing out the waters, honey. You know, it's so, we both performed at Lori Beachman before. and speaking of Bianca, I got to see Joan Rivers right before she passed work out new material at Lori Beachman in her, what, 80s? And she's like working out new material and she's Joan fucking Richard. Yes, had the cards, the whole thing. I mean, it was, I was like, how is this happening to me? It was so cool. I got to see Joan Rivers in the Poconos somewhere with my ex-wife. Yes. Right? So we go to see, I'm like, we have to see Joan Rivers. She's like, okay, fine. She had no idea. She had no idea. It was great. We were in a ballet company together. Not gay at all. From ballet to Joan Rivers, and she had no clue. No clue. I worked at a florist. This is all true. That's hilarious. But we saw Joan, and I was just incredible. And you can feel her energy at the Lori Beachman. Because it's so small. Yes. And I got to meet her backstage. Chip was so nice to take me back there and meet her and everything. Oh, my God. It was just, I mean, a dream come true. But every time I think of Bianca, I think of Joan Rivers. I just immediately go to Joan. I mean, she's passed the torch. I thought you said she passed away, too. She passed, too. We could not get so lucky, honey. We were left with Bianca, and they took Joan. See? This is what's happening. Now, you opened for Bianca Del Rio. I did. What was that like touring with her? Tell us the deep, dark secrets of Bianca. The deep, dark secrets. I mean, she is the kindest, craziest, most energetic, insane person. That's not what we want to hear. Isn't she, though? She really is. I know. It's amazing. I mean, she was definitely, you know, she had her wine and she got herself going and then she took something to go to sleep. I don't know what happened. She just was gone. She could pick me up. I'm not a small lady. She would pick me up and crack my back. I mean, she was just. But she's the one. I'm so grateful for her. She gave me the chance. You know, I didn't get opportunities to go on any tours. And I heard from one of the tour groups, they said that they didn't want me to because I was sober. I'd be a downer. And I was like, that's bullshit. There are other sober queens. What? Yeah, it's fine. So, you know, this was such an amazing opportunity. And to get to do that, it was great. And I just, I think, you know, I think I like to see like Jinx and Bob and Bianca and everybody and yourself. Like everybody's, we're finding different avenues to stand up, Broadway, all this. I love it. So is she very ritualistic? I get a feeling that she is like, has the same routine every show. I mean, everything's labeled. Yeah. And a couple things she said. You're going to get to know I don't spend a lot of money on clothes. And she wears the same kind of like jumper, and she buys six of them. And then every morning, we're like, are you ready to go to Starbucks? I'm like, yep. She goes, then we're going to go to Starbucks. We're going to meet people, and that's where the gays are, and they're going to come to the show, and we're going to sell the last five tickets. So it was definitely. And then she's like, we don't get a lot of food. We just got vegetables. and then she signs all of her, you know. Your impersonation of Bianca Del Rio is fucking hilarious. Well, you're going to do that. We're going to do that. And then she's like, you're like me. You're pacing back and forth. You're pacing back and forth. You're going to get out there and you're going to kill it. Get out there and kill it. Then she's like, that was terrible. I'm like, oh my God. Well, speaking of Workhorse Queen, I want to tell you, if you have not seen the documentary, it is so good, Mrs. Kasha Davis. You are so kind. I'll tell you what. I'm sure you get messages where people say they want to do an interview. And I thought this was a student at a school who wanted to do some sort of project. Right. And she said her name is Angela Washko. So she came to Rochester and she made this presentation. And she really challenged me to just like show yourself. And I'm so grateful for the push that she did with that. because it's hard for me to watch. It's hard for my husband to watch. It's hard for all of us to watch because it's very vulnerable. It's a tearjerker. I mean, there were several times where I teared up, you know, even watching it the second time. And of course, it's hilarious in parts because it's Mr. and Mrs. Kasia Davis. But it's not only so moving and tearjerking in parts, but it's also so real. You know, especially there at the end, you're like, I had this gig and 12 people showed up and this is what happened. Yeah, it was like so real. and raw and I just I absolutely love it. So if you have not seen this, go check it out because it's amazing and it's called Workhorse Queen. Thank you. And isn't who coined that for you? It was Isaac Mizrahi, wasn't it? Yes. That's so funny. Well, it was a bit of a read. Right. He was trying to read you but you turned it into, yeah. And that's what Angela, it was her idea. She said let's you know, I think we should call it Workhorse Queen because you know, you are. And that's I grew up in Scranton, Pennsylvania. You know, it was an old office, the office, everything, everything you can imagine. We were decades behind. Right. And the whole idea was just that, like, you go to work, you go to work. And so I had a whole career before drag. And I knew that this was going to be something, especially after being eliminated early on RuPaul's Drag Race. Nobody's going to tell me I'm not going to make it. Right. I'm going to do the work. Exactly. And it's going to happen when it's going to happen. But I'm going to put in the work and people are going to know my name. Yes. Yes, absolutely. And you've done that. Preaching to the choir. Well, honey, listen, you say you went home early. At least you got four or five episodes in. I got one. So going back to your mom, she's the one who inspired Mrs. Kasha Davis. My mom and my grandmother. Yes. My grandmother was a whistler in the vaudeville days. Is that not amazing? I mean, she had a hair salon, and she would tell me that she was a performer. And I was like, what did you do? And she said, I used to whistle. And I'm like, what are you talking about? I didn't know what vaudeville was, you know, as a child. And she would explain it to me and she would tell me and show me these photos, these gorgeous gouges. And she's at a microphone. And she would host these vaudeville shows and whistle. And whistle. And to all different popular music. And she even auditioned for the Indian Love Call. And I think that was a movie, if I'm saying it correctly. But she wasn't cast. and she got out of the whole business because, creepy story, she was taking my mom and my uncle in the car to the gigs and they saw an accident where someone was decapitated and it was this horrific accident and she's like, I can't do this. So she got out of it and she went into hair. So she stopped whistling. She stopped whistling. She saw that decapitation, honey, and she stopped whistling. Are you serious? I'm serious. So these are Italian divas, these gorgeous ladies who like knew the score. They knew that little Eddie, you know, I was called a fairy, all of that stuff, and told to be more masculine. And so they knew and they treated me well. And I was such a mama's boy. So I'm keeping my mom alive with Mrs. Costi. I love that. And your grandma. Did she ever whistle for you? We would catch her on the porch. Really? And we would hide. So we had a ranch house and we would catch her like through the windows and we'd hear her. And it was absolutely beautiful. So, of course, my brother, who's the funniest person ever, will take photos and have the photo on a video and be like, grandma's here. Did it get passed down? Grandma's here. None of us. None of us can whistle. No. Can you yodel? No. Yodel lady, yodel lady, yodel lady. I can do the. That's about it. I love that. And who is that from? That is Joanne Worley. Joanne Worley, honey. Yes. You know, we love our old divas. Laugh-in. Laugh-in. Yes. Come on. I just got to hang out with Lily Tomlin speaking of laugh-in. Honey. Of course you did. My man and I were just hanging out with Lily. You know, no big deal. So I love this, though. Your mom, Ellen. Yes. Worked for Avon. She did. She was an Avon lady. She was an Avon lady door to door Door to door For the kids who don know can you imagine someone strangers showing up at your door ringing the doorbell and selling you makeup This happened And I mean, this, like my mother and grandmother, they were like to the nines, dressed essentially in drag on a daily basis. And they would go to door to, she would go door to door. And then she got so good at it that she became a district sales manager. So she had this whole region in Pennsylvania. and I remember taking her one time to New York City because she had to go meet with people at Avon Products in New York City and they wanted her to come to New York but my dad was like, no, U.S. Marshall, you stay home, you cook dinner. You'd be Stepford Wife. Yeah, this does not work. You can sell Avon until 4.30 and whenever I come home at 5, it's time to be the wife. Put the lipstick away and make me dinner. Oh my gosh, those little tiny little, they had little lipstick samples that I would hide and I would put the lipstick on. Oh, I didn't even think of that. I bet you were in heaven when the Avon would come. And I would tie up the towel on the top of my head and my mother's like, what are you doing in there? And I'm like, you know. You know, just being a girl. I know, I would always use a beach towel and have it long ways and pretend like I was Crystal Gale with the long hair down to my ankles. Crystal Gale and Diana Ross. And Diana Ross. I'm Coming Out was the first lip sync I did. Was it really? So my brother, no. like pre this is my brother and I shared a bedroom one side of the room was all Tina Turner posters and Diana Ross and all these divas and we had the bunk bed that was like one way and then this way and so there was a closet so I had my 45 record which you know what that is you were literally in the closet I was literally in the closet and I had a towel and the red lipstick and my poor brother was sitting there with a crucifix oh my god scared like what's happening and I'm I'm coming I want the world to know Why you do this to me, Damien? Do you remember Mary Kay Cosmetics? Of course. They had the pink Cadillac. Honey, they had the pink Cadillacs. If they sold enough, they got a pink car. Do you know that I saw Mary Kay's house down in Dallas, Texas? Huge pink mansion. I mean... Down in Dallas, Texas, Mary Kay Cosmetics. She was probably a horrible person. Oh, I'm sure they were. Well, and I still use the underarm deodorant from... Shut up. You do not. Yeah, on duty. What's it called? On duty. On duty? Yeah, like you're on duty. That's very burly. This will keep you smelling good for your husband. On duty. You're on duty. No, yeah. Well, Mrs. Kasia Davis is, you know, definitely a masculine lady. And then you just mentioned that your father was a U.S. Marshal. Yes, he was. Now, let me get this right. So he, his job, one of his jobs was to protect the guy who tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan. Correct. Hinkley. Hinkley. He, so my dad was the epitome of masculinity. I mean, just tough, manly cigarette out in the dinner table, like in the dish, you know. That's hot. And my mother was just over the top feminine. Right. And so they had a tough relationship. It's like a Lana Del Rey song. Right. Five kids, a lot of excitement in the house, but lots of tension. And he was just a toughie. And so he would just disappear some nights and come in and be like, I've got to go. And he would have to go to these. top situations, top secret, where he'd be guarding people. And he was in guarding Hinkley, and something happened where he maybe wasn't doing such a great job because he tried to hang himself, and my dad cut him down from the sheet. Your dad was the one that cut him down? If you Google this, because I remember when this happened, and he was doing it. The guy tried to assassinate Reagan because he was trying to get the attention of Jodie Foster. Do you remember that, Ani? Ani's over here shaking her head. And that's why he tried to assassinate him. Because she was going to Harvard at the time or something. Or one of the Ivy League schools. And he was trying to get the attention of Jodi. You're sitting here trying to assassinate the president. She don't even into men. Honey, you barking up the wrong tree, honey. Well, you really got to get the attention. You got married right out of high school? Oh, my gosh. We met in 11th grade. And she was at a different school. and you know I just felt like I had to in order to please my father I had to find the first girl who would say yes. Do you know what I mean? And I was asking all these girls in high school and if any of them were watching this so many of them we still stay in touch. They'll come to see my shows they're like do you remember when you asked me out? I said I asked all of you out and it was the note and they'd circle yes or no. Were they all ballerinas? No. So she was from a different school and she was also another friend of mine. They were both friends as well. And yeah, so we started to date and it just high school sweethearts. And I came out to her and she said, you're just very European. We'll deal with it. So I was like, does that mean bisexual? Like I was trying to come out and it just, you know, so I, on my wedding day though, I cried the whole day and everyone was like, oh, it's so beautiful you love her so much. I was devastated because I knew I just wasn't being true to myself. And this was building up all kinds of anxiety. Wow. Yeah. That is heavy. So you, you were with her for 10 years. We were together for 10 years. Yeah. And, um, and then when I came out, that really just ended and the line was drawn in the sand. My parents, my mom was like dramatic and crying. And, uh, what did I do to deserve this? And my dad spit in my face and said, get out. I stayed in Rochester, and I learned what a community was, what a family was. The club scene was Darien Lake and Ambrosia Salad and Pandora Box, as you know. The original. The original. Bitter old lady brigade. Oh, yeah, with Queen Bitter, Aggie Dune. And so they were all there, and I was just learning this new community. And it was the first time I saw same-sex couples holding hands, and so it was the beginning of that. But it was also the beginning of excessive drinking. And this summer, knock on wood, one day at a time, I'll be 11 years sober. Well, good for you. Good for you. Because I know that from watching and hearing you talk about it and watching the documentary, I know it was definitely something that was necessary for your relationship and your life and your career. So I would say we just had Eureka on. And if you haven't seen the episode with Eureka, go watch it because she talks about her recovery that she's going through right now. So there's definitely, when a person knows, they know. They know. And I like to talk about it because it's not necessarily the idea that I'm encouraging people, you should get sober. Oh, no. It's the idea that if you think there's no life without drugs or alcohol, you're wrong. There is. No, we hung out at a gig we did together with Tammy Brown, honey. And Mrs. Kasha Davis knows that Tammy and I throw them down, honey. Yeah. And she's like, I don't mind. I'm just not going to do it with you. We were in P-Town. We saw Miss Richfield 1981. And you know Miss Richfield 1981. We do know Miss Richfield 1981. She's brought up a lot here on the Kelly Mantle show. Okay. Because she has a seasoned assist against Tammy Brown. Oh, well, there's that. Okay. It's one of my favorite things to say. I'm probably going to be getting one from her very soon. She probably should have one with me, too. because when I saw her, I just was like, the first song I did was one of her songs that she did. So I kind of like, you know, I was inspired by her. But I loved that she was singing live, that she's inspiring, and she didn't look so great. You know, so I was like, oh, I can do that. Because Pandora and Darian and all the gals, they were being so sexy. And I was like, I don't physically, I don't know how to project that. They were being sexy. When I went to go see their show, their drag show, they were so beautiful and sexy and glamorous. And I was like, I never saw that level of camp in Rochester. So when I saw Miss Richfield, I was like, oh, that's my pocket. I could be Mrs. Garrett. You know what I'm saying? I was getting ready to say, you're so Mrs. Garrett. You're so Mrs. Garrett. Oh my gosh. Have you ever done Facts of Life? I need to do Facts of Life. You need to do Facts of Life. I did a horrible production of it years ago here in West Hollywood. It was terrible. Oh, my God. Wouldn't that be fun? One of the worst experiences I've ever had. I'm sorry. I wanted to play Joe because I'm such a lesbian, but they made me play Blair. But you are Mrs. Garrett. I mean, let's do it. I thought Peaches was about to do it. I saw her last night in Rochester with Mink Stoll. Oh, you did? They did their talk back with the John Waters films. And right pre-COVID, we were back and forth talking about it. Oh, my God. So it's going to happen. We have to see Mrs. Kasha Davis. So that was the whole idea is that Miss Richfield inspired me. And Mr. Davis and On the Way Home, we talked about it. And I said, first pet, first street, Kasha Davis, angry white poodle, boring basic street in Scranton, Pennsylvania. And you take care of the money and I'll get on the stage. Wham, let's do it. You all immediately jumped into making videos and doing sketch comedy and stuff before YouTube was even blowing up, right? We have a ridiculous amount of videos on YouTube. And we're planning a show together, an evening with the Davises, and we're going to pull up some of these things. I mean, they're just – we did everything from cooking recipes to just, you know, mowing the lawn. I mean, everything like suburban life, basically. So good. And that's where the phrase, there's always time for a cocktail, came from. Yes. Because you were playing the housewife that's doing the cooking show. She could never make it to the end of the recipe. She gets hammered. I love that. And I think that's what's so interesting because your exit line, you get to the back of the stage, you turn around, and you say, there's always time for a cocktail. And in the documentary, it's so beautiful because you go walking up the stage and this really sad music sets in. and it's so like haunting that that was your exit line. Right. And you went right into, because you were busy, busy, busy, busy, busy. And then when things started slowing down, the drinking got more and more and more. It escalated. Yeah. And it was drinking morning, noon, and night. And I know that my drinking is a thinking disease and I drank to stop the anxiety, to calm down. And I was seeing, you know, my peers from that season doing so well, getting more work and the phone wasn't ringing. And I just left this career of 18 years. Mr. Davis was being very supportive, but I left it. And I'm thinking, I'm not being supportive. I'm not being a supportive husband. And we have, you know, he has two beautiful daughters and I'm not now I'm not contributing to the family. And what am I doing? And I was face down on the floor and I heard my mother's voice. she had passed previously. And I just heard her say, you have got to stop drinking. And I screamed at the mirror and said, shut up. I carried on for a little while longer. And I had been on a series of gigs and I was visiting my sisters and I was saying goodbye to each one of them. Cause I thought, I think I'm dying. I thought I was like, because I was drinking so much and hiding it. And I was just losing myself. And I was coming back home for a brunch gig and I didn't make it the evening before in time. And I was my third DUI was swerving from children at noon in my neighborhood. Are you serious? Yeah. And it was- Wait, but I knew that happened. It was your third one. It was my third one. The first one was when I got divorced from my ex-wife. The second one, my closest friend, that family that I created from the gay bars, he was tragically hurt in an accident and rendered quadriplegic. And my husband and I took on the responsibility of taking care of him. Workhorse queen, you know, we can do it because his father said, that's what happens to gay people. I'm not going to help you. And so that was my second UI and you know, excuses, excuses, excuses. It was, it was because of the divorce. It was because of Sam. And then the third time in the morning, Steve came up to me and showed me the paperwork and said, you realize you were swerving from children. That's when I just asked whatever there is in the universe, spirit guides, whatever you believe, help me. And that began the process. And it's just a whole new life. I get to do so many great things. I get to be present here with you. I get to speak at colleges. I get to share my experience. And I hope to motivate people to not only follow their dreams and be themselves, but know that if they themselves or other people have those struggles, that they can get through it. Absolutely. I mean, I love that. Kudos to you. I mean, you've really come out of the storm, and you're so on top, and I love to see that, and I love to hear that. John Mark, what is this? Why am I being sent pictures of you naked on the floor of a doctor's office? I passed out. Typhoid? Typhoid? What? No, no. I was getting my blood drawn and unfortunately the second someone mentions the word needle my body just Oh please stop being so dramatic Needles scare me Kelly Oh grow up you survived gay dating in Los Angeles and God knows that has more pricks in it than a needle ever would Is it so wrong to believe that nothing good enters the body sharply You do have a point I mean imagine how many more people would do a GLP if it didn involve stabbing yourself with a needle Oh, well, have you heard of Roe? 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And it gets messy and we are not afraid to be wrong. So please join us over here at Sibling Rivalry, available anywhere you get your podcasts. You can listen and subscribe for free. For free, honey. The Transvestigation Unit at the Kelly Mantle Show wants to know is it true that you accidentally tweeted out your phone number? I certainly did I certainly did so several Chardonnays in I am not good with technology We're both tech savvy honey It's a miracle that we're both here We have our Mr. Davis's getting us around Somebody asked me a question and I thought I was sending them a message and I just tweeted my phone number. Well, it was during season seven, you know, when it was airing. And so I started getting all these phone calls. I'm talking to Mrs. Couch. So we filmed it. That's hilarious. But it was kind of then that you realized I have an impact on people. I can talk with these people and help them and talk to them and offer, yeah, guidance. It wasn't that kind of at the same time you were getting sober. It was the beginning of the sobriety. I love that. It's kind of like, and then you went on All Stars 8. Oh! Honey, let's talk about the talent show. None of us were expecting Mrs. Kasha Davis to come out and say, there's always time for a breakdown. I just showed the video to James for the first time. He was screaming in the car. He was like, what? And you just rip your wig off in the combat boots. I fucking live. Thank you. I just tried to do something unexpected. And also, you know, it still holds true today, unfortunately. And it's this cycle that we go through, right, of the hate. And it's, you know, I'm teaching a class for the third semester at a college in Rochester on drag, drag theory, culture and performance. And in my study, in my learning, to make sure I know what I'm talking about, this is the same story over and over. When the hell are we going to, you know, wake up? Looking at it now and where we are with the Epstein files, it's kind of obvious to me that they saw this coming from a long time ago. This is going to see the light of day sometime soon. So let's start projecting all of this onto drag queens and trans people and saying that they're the groomers. They're the child groomers. They're the ones that are pedophiles and stuff. And so we clearly see now that's not the case. there's not one drag queen or trans person that we're aware of that are in the Epstein files. So shut the fuck up. Thank you. I'm sick of it. So I love that you are out there educating the children and their parents and the world at large through your imagination station and your drag story, reading hours and all the things, because I would have loved as a child to have some representation to know. You know, my first representation wasn't until Boy George. Right. And that was much later in my life. I would have loved to have been young to see someone like Costa Davis reading to me or teaching me something. And for us, yes, we found it, right? But what I have discovered in Imagination Station, there's no money to be made. It's all about the messaging and the parents that come up to me afterwards in tears and say, thank you for showing me that my child is a community. That's the payment. And that's the light. Because if my father had that, we would have been able to say I love you sooner. It didn't happen until he was on his way out. One of the reasons why I drank was I was afraid to die because I wasn't done yet. And so I realized I wasn't afraid of dying. I wasn't living. And so I was upset with myself. I'm like, I have things to do in this life. There are things that I would like to accomplish. There are places I need to see. There are experiences I want to have. But I feel as though this soul, I'm here to share my experience, strength, and hope, to share my flaws, to share all of that. And I wasn't doing it. I was just staying stuck. Right. And then that flipped the switch. And I have less fear about death and more excitement about living now because I'm able to check off some of these things and do some of these things. Exactly. And it gets you outside of your body to where you're thinking about other people and how you can help other people. Yes. The best way is to reach out to somebody else. Ask how they're doing. Talk to a friend. Go online. Even if it's somebody that you're not in the same city, whatever. But do something for somebody else and you will feel better. Yes. I love that. Hallelujah. So were you inspired by Pee Wee and Mr. Rogers and all of the above? Mr. Rogers was my Xanax as a kid. Was he really? I mean, he would just talk so quiet at him because there was no quiet in our house. No. That's so true. He is very quiet. He would be quiet and we'd all sit and listen. It's like ASMR for children. Yes, I think it was. And he was brilliant. And I'll tell you, I mean, Angela with Imagination Station, she helped me to go forward with Imagination Station, the director of Workhorse Queen. She's from Pittsburgh. Mr. Rogers is Pittsburgh. I got to see some of the monuments and stuff and I could just feel his energy. I love that. Do you remember Electric Company? Yes. Hey, you guys. Right. Isn't that, no, that's not 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. No, that was Connection. Oh, okay. What was that called? 3, 2, 1, Connect or something? And remember Captain Kangaroo? Oh, Mr. Kangaroo. Was he homophobic? I think a little bit. Shut up. Well, we talked about Mrs. Garrett. in Facts of Life. I also would love to see you as Andorra. Andorra. And would be a dream. I mean, she's an inspiration. And she was one of my Snatch Game characters in my audition videos. Oh, was she? Yes. I mean, and so it was, you know, Ethel Merman, Mrs. Garrett, and... Mrs. Roper from Three's Company. Oh my gosh, Mrs. Roper. Honey, you've got to do these, Kosh. You all can do Do it with your cast, with Aggie and all of y'all there in Rochester? We could just do it. You should be doing these. This is a parody show. Honey, I'm going to come to Rochester and produce these. Let's do it. We'll make a buck, honey. I'll just sit backstage and sip on my little cocktail. Collect. While you all go out there and collect the money. Collect the money, honey. Well, I would love to see you do more acting because we had Kasha Davis as a guest on The Browns. And if you haven't seen it, go check that out because she's hilarious in it. And you were also in Hurricane Bianca, too. I was. I just kept texting. I'm like, is there a part for me? Is there a part for me? They were like, give her, Bianca's like, give her a goddamn part. Just leave me alone. Listen, I call it support, but it's also, but it's also, you've got to speak up for yourself. Honey, you've got to. I'll message Theron or different producers and be like, what do you got? What do you got? Do you need me to walk by? Show me what you got. I heard you got a movie. You need a waitress? Do you know what I mean? I know. Were you in the airport movie? No. Or the airplane movie? I asked. They said we're finished filming. I'm like, put me in the next one. Are you serious? Girl. Well, speaking of, we like to play games here on the Kelly Mantle Show. And we're going to play a quick game of drag association with the one and only Mrs. Kasha Davis. Jasmine Masters. So I have to think of the first word that comes to mind? First word that comes to mind. Or a thought phrase. Oh, rough. You got to watch out. You got to watch out for Jasmine Masters. You got to be on your toes for Jasmine Masters. You got to be ready. She's got a piece of paper over the top of her wine glass with a straw. I don't know why. Something's going to fall in there. You just got to be ready. And she's great. You're the best Patti LaBelle impersonator I've ever seen in my whole life. There you go. That's how we play. I love that Jasmine Masters sounds exactly like Bianca Del Rio. And my father. Candy me. What's with all the rough voices? So basically, Bianca Del Rio, Jasmine Masters, and Candy Muse are the same person. Oh my gosh. I have to tell you, she is just, she knows how to do that TV shit too. She just gets on there and she's like, and then she's like, hi, Kasia, how are you? When it's not filming, I'm like, you're so sweet. And then she wears just a bra and a small wig. And Amanda's like, she's fierce. I'm like, what? Like, if I ever did that, you know what I'm saying? You should. You should totally show up on an All-Stars vs. the World and let your entrance look just be a brawl. I'm here. I'm here. Max. Max. First of all, Max is our dog's name, and I love him. He's the best. He's my soul pup. Your dog is beautiful. Max the drag queen is brilliant. and is so, so just, everyone still wants her back. Yeah. Hi, I'm Eric Voss from New Rockstars, and if you want to know what's coming up next from the MCU, you should listen to The Sneak Peek, hosted by myself and Jessica Clemens. Sneak Peek is your one-stop shop for keeping up with Kevin Feige and his brain trust of nerd producers. It's a weekly roundup of all the most important Marvel news so that you can start getting excited about the MCU's next big movie or series before there's even a trailer out. What should we expect, not just from this phase or saga, but the next one too? Part of the fun of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is being excited about the next chapter, and that excitement is exactly why we make Snake Peek. Listen for free on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Brian, the host of Brian Enten Investigates. Most other true crime and breaking news podcasters are in their basement or studio, but not me. I am out on the road every single week. From inside prisons to murder scenes to active manhunts, there really isn't anywhere I won't go. Coast to coast, I am all about old-fashioned boots-on-the-ground reporting. You have to show up in person to cover the news and get the secrets, and I have a way of getting people to talk. I cover stories others ignore with a relentless determination to get to the truth. Listen to Brian Enten Investigates every day, wherever you get your podcasts. You know, I want to see her come back. I know. I would love to see her. Where is Max? What is Max doing? Come back to the five and dime. Yeah, she posts some kind of stories here and there, but you don't ever get to see her. So I'm like, just come back. I try to get her, but she doesn't respond to that. I loved that moment of her sitting on the edge of the stage. Yes, giving us a little Judy Garland. I mean, I live for that shit. Are you kidding? And then we went to a couple gigs, and they were like nightclub gigs, and she was like, I think I'm going to sing Judy. I'm like, well, you go, girl, but these kids don't know who the hell that is. Do you know when I do Liza, they think I'm Kris Jenner? Are you serious? I'm not even kidding. I love it. Candy Ho. I won that lip sync, okay? Now, listen, I want her to get back out and start doing it. She's starting to do more Instagram videos and stuff like that, and she looks fantastic. And I want to bring her to one of our shows as well. Gorgeous. Yeah, she's gorgeous. Love that. Gia Gunn. Oh, what a bitch. I mean she is the only one that blocked me as far as I know As far as I know Well you welcome I mean seriously Tempest de Jolie Oh, Grandma. I love her. She's, I mean, and she's the queen of too much, you know? I credit her in helping me to do that season eight birthday outfit where it was all this stuff. She's too much. She's all of that. But she's just, she's my soul sister from Drag Race. I mean, we just, it's always just like tender and kind. The two of you. I love when you all do the old Trixie and Katya. Yeah. That was amazing. I love it. Violet Chachki. Oh, what a waste. I think Ginger said the same thing. She said the same thing. I mean, you know, now she seems to be having a career because of her sidekick. And sometimes you need that with Gutmick. Oh. When you bring somebody on, it helps you to become better. She was just not resonating. Nobody was responding to her. And now the duo is working. And I think she brings out something in Violet that is more relatable to the audience now. So, yeah. No. I love when she says that. No. Yeah. What do you think of this, Violet? No. Alexis Michelle. Broadway. Broadway. I mean. Broadway, baby! She's so fun. I mean, we definitely got much closer during All Stars 8. Did you? Yeah. And I announced that I was doing Edna and Hairspray, and then a couple weeks later, she's so funny. She's like, oh, by the way, I'm going to be doing it two times before you. I love that. Modesty. Yeah, just to let you know. Just to let you know. I love at DragCon, somehow Mrs. Kasha Davis always ends up right there next to Rue during the ribbon-cutting ceremony. How do you do that every time? I move myself right over there because who's everybody going to be looking at? Exactly. You know what I mean? They're going to be looking at room. And that's why I noticed. I noticed. As you can see. Well, there's people on Reddit who are like, gosh, it just pushes her way right over there. I'm like, I sure do. You sure do, honey. And I grab Mr. Davis. I'm like, get over here and stand next to you. Exactly. And I love it. I love to see it. You're exercising. You're like exercising like crazy. I am too. I love working out. It's my favorite thing in the whole world. It is also part of my, like, you know, I have my spiritual program of what I do to keep myself sober. And Mrs. Kasia Davis is doing push-ups on stage now. I do push-ups and I put one leg up in the air. And I also try to find, like, the most fit guy because they've had a couple drinks. So they're going to not do it. Right. And so we'll do push-ups. And the adrenaline while you're performing, you can even do more. But, yeah, my dad used to push me to do a lot of working out and it helped me. But I have a trainer now who's just darling. His name is Luciano. He's such a good guy. Is he adjusting your lumbar spine? He. Is he adjusting your C3s and C4s? C4s, yeah. You are a huge Tina Turner fan. Oh. Yes, you are a huge Tina Turner fan. I shook her hand. Did she really? I did. No way. You know what I said? Was this before or after she died? No, I, right before I got divorced with my ex-wife, I ran up and gave her flowers and I shook her hand. And I said, you're the best. You're the best. You did not say you're the best. I'm not very good. You're simply the best. And she would just laugh to me. Better than ours. Do you ever sing her live? I do the slow version from Schitt's Creek. It's simply the best. Oh, do you? Give us a little bit of that. Come on. So I do this when I'm singing about my husband. In my one woman show, There's Always Time for a Cocktail. And I call you when I need you My heart's on fire Come to me, come to me Wild and wild You come to me Give me everything I need Oh, you're simply the best You're simply the best I love that That is so beautiful Well, I want to play a real quick We did this with Tammy Brown Because as we know, Tammy Brown is also A Tina Turner aficionado as well So we are going to play a quick game of Tina Turner trivia, and we're going to see who does better, Tamara Brown or Mrs. Kasha Davis. Here we go. Okay. Timer on and go. What was Tina Turner's original name? Anna Mae Bullock. What was her first stage name before Tina Turner? I don't know. Little Ann. Little Ann! What song won her a Grammy for Record of the Year in 1985? What's Love Got to Do With It? Very good. What film did she star in portraying Auntie Entity? Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Ooh, she knows her Tina, honey. What year was she inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for her work with Ike Turner? The 2019. No. No. She was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with Ike Turner. There's also Prince had a whole album named this. I was dreaming when I wrote this. I'm Mr. Beeman. Oh, 1999. Yes, thank you. What year was she inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a solo artist? That's like closer to the end of her life. So that's like 2021? Yes. Oh, my God. She got it. That just is so exciting. What song did she perform at Live Aid with Phil Collins? Phil Collins? That's what Tamara said. Isn't this where Tamara went off? She didn't do no song with Phil Collins. I don't know. Proud Mary. She did? Uh-huh. What was the name of the album that launched her comeback in 1984? A private dancer. Sing a little bit of it for us. Well, the men come in these places, and the men are all the same. You don't look at their faces. Oh, wait. How about when she goes in the mirror and she goes, with the lipstick? I'll be your private dancer. A dancer for my name. Any old woman will do. That's words. Those are words. Those are words coming out of my mouth, and Dina didn't write them. I wrote that song. She wrote Nutbush City Limits. Nutbush City Limits. Church House Gin House. Church House Gin House. Which song did she initially not want to record But became a huge hit Oh definitely What's Love Got To Do With It And the last one What was the name of the world tour that earned her a world record For largest paying audience For a solo performer It wasn't Would it be Wildest Dreams No it was the one before it Was it Break Every Rule Yes Kasha Davis won the Gina Turner Trivia She beat Tamara Brown Oh my gosh I have to look for this Phil Collins doing. We are being joined with another special guest with Mrs. Kasha Davis is Mr. Kasha Davis. Thank you so much for joining us. How long have you been together now? It'll be 23 years next month. 23 years. When I do my stand-up, I'm like, 23 years, 10 legal, 3 happy, and then he does that. And then just, you know, a little bit of it. He's like, well. Well, now, you were married to a woman as well. I was, yes. So this is how you all had that in common. We do have that in common. Well, and so when we were first dating, things were going great. And he said, I have to talk to you. And I was like, oh, great. It's going to be the friend conversation. You know, like, this is great, but I think we just be friends. And he said, I have two kids. Yeah. Two daughters. Two daughters. And the reason I waited about a month to tell him I had two kids, because so many people in the past, you'd say you had kids and they'd hit the road. Yeah, right. Well, now I love this story about your daughters, Melissa and Jessica. Oh my God, I say that all the time. Melissa, do you really? I love this story about your daughters. Melissa, there's always time for a cocktail. I'm actually not having a cocktail today. I love this story about your daughters, Melissa and Jessica, getting you tickets to see Shania Twain. Yes. And she brought you all on stage. I was wearing this shirt. Oh, were you wearing that? That's right. You were. I wore this shirt, I think, in All Stars 8, too. But here's the thing. We share clothes. He doesn't wear the cautious stuff. But, okay. So when we would take the girls back on Wednesdays and weekends. They were just young kids. I think they were 7 and 9 or 7 and 10. And I was into Shania Twain at the time. So we would just play that album to death back and forth for the hour. Singing the whole time. And I was not somebody who was like – I didn't dislike Shania Twain. I knew a couple songs, but I became like I knew all of the songs now because they loved it so much. And they're singing, and it's like up, up, up the whole time. And it's like in the backseat. And so we're all singing way back and forth. And so they made the surprise for his birthday. And so I just said to myself, well, I'm just going to message her. so I messaged and I think they may have hearted it or something and all of a sudden during the show she read the message and put her picture up yeah so you didn't even know it was going to happen no we had no idea and then they were at the edge of our row saying come with us come with us come with us they found us in this giant like what auditorium I thought for sure this had all been planned there was no plan oh my gosh that's so cool so then we got up on stage yeah we got up on stage we got to see her like up close and she was just so darling and so sweet and just genuine. And that to me is true celebrity. Oh, it really is. I mean, it was such a great moment. If you get a chance, go find it and watch it because it's so cool. How did the selfie turn out? It was great. It was good. Did it turn out good? I was worried. I was like, oh no, is it going to turn out? But it was so much fun because on the way home, so this is Buffalo where we saw her and Rochester's about an hour and a half away and we're driving back home and we stop at the rest stop and people were like, oh my God. Banana shirt guy. the banana sugar. We saw you on stage. It's the gays that Shania brought up on stage. But what a wonderful thing at a Shania Twain concert. I'm sure you've got a mixed bag of people and they were cheering. And they were cheering. It was so much love in the room for you all and I love that moment. You know also, if you're in Puerta Vallarta anytime soon, I believe Scarlett Envy is doing a one woman Shania Twain show. Did you know that? I did not know that. We just had her here on the podcast, and she announced that she will be doing a solo show as Shania Twain. How fabulous. Who knew? If you were ever asked to do another All Stars or Versus the World, would you do it? I would absolutely say yes. Really? I would, and I think that it's such a beautiful thing to be able to have this opportunity to go. I mean, when you go, you kind of get that vibe. You said it earlier. you kind of know what's starting to happen. You feel like I might be here for this episode or these episodes and I can see, you know, who they've sort of gravitated towards. But I think it's a great, great, great thing that it's happening and that it's continued to grow the way it is all around the world. So yes, I would do it. It's provided me the opportunity to travel around the world, provided me the opportunity to sit here with you today and to break free of that like nine to five job that I made work, but this is the opportunity to, yeah. This is your life. Live. I love it. Well, let's see Mrs. Kasha Davis back on an all stars or a versus the world. Please world of wonder, make it happen. I would love to see that and let everyone know where they can find you on the social medias. That will probably be your cue. Mrs. Kasha Davis. Yeah. Insta snatch, twatter, face place, face place. TikTok. and I'm on this new app called MyChart. Oh, what's that? That sounds like medical records. It is. It's trending high. My numbers are trending high. Hopefully not your blood pressure. Oh, we're trying to keep it in check. Push-ups. Well, everyone go follow Mr. and Mrs. Kasia Davis online and check out the documentary, Work Horse Queen. It's so good. It really is. I know it's been around for a few years, but if you haven't seen it, go check it out. And thank you all so much for being here with us today In the Kelly Mantle studio Thank you and will you join us for a show if we invite you Hell yeah I'm going to come to Rochester when it's warm though Let me know when it's warm She'd like the warm weather One of the casino shows Do you gamble? Girl I am a gambler You can go down and do a little gamble, go to the buffet I know when to hold them and I know when to fold them And I know when to walk away And I know when to run Thank you for joining us here on the Kelly Mantle Show with the one and only Mrs. Kasha Davis and Mr. Kasha Davis and make sure that you subscribe hit that subscribe button and join the Patreon we're going to have all kinds of fun things coming to you and buy our merch you can buy Kelly Mantle the puzzle put the pieces of me together and hopefully none of them will be missing and tune in next week when our guest will be Tina Turner.