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Get in the freakin' auto! From the Quantum Fiber Studio, this is Brock and Salk on Seattle Sports. Brock Ewerd is my hero. James Ewerd just punched me in the kidney. Who's gonna do you a man? That won't work that way, Sherm. This is a show that has my name on it. This is a kind of chug, though. Now, here are your hosts, Brock Ewerd and Mike Salk. Hello! Hello! Man, you talked about discipline earlier, Brock. Last night, I brought Cecily and her friend out to a hockey triad out in Snokwami. We're driving home and I owed Cecily Dairy Queen because of some timing things from last week. Oh, the strawberry? Well, I owed her. Well, she would never touch that because she hates anything fruit-related. So, I had owed her some Dairy Queen, so made a plan that on the way home I would get her Dairy Queen and I figured her friend would like that as well. So, she and Asha stopped at DQ on the way home. And I sat there. I sat there at Dairy Queen with them. And didn't go in. Well, no, I went in. We all had to go because they wanted to eat dinner first. So, they got like chicken strips and all that stuff. And then I sat there at Dairy Queen while they ate their chicken strips, knowing that I had some food at home. And then sat there while they ordered blizzards. Cecily got some sort of coffee one, which ended up being a problem later in the night when she couldn't fall asleep. But that was on me. I'll take responsibility for that. Asha had the peanut butter cup. And then I sat there. I didn't order. I can't even tell you. It was like so hard. I was so proud of myself afterwards. It's like that dog sitting at the table that's just begging. Leftover. That was me. Just something falls. Just something falls, please. You know, it's a French ride. Yeah, trying to let them know that I'm here. Still here. And then I heard something fascinating from Asha. I did not know this. So her family, her dad was born in Canada. I think her mom might have been also. So they are Canadian. And so I was, she was talking about, I said, what kind of blizzard do you like to get? She's like, well, when we're up in Canada, I like to get a score bar blizzard, which I think is the same as our Heath bars. I think it's a toffee thing. So, okay, fine. And she's like, but my other favorite is a Smarties blizzard. And I was like, I got to say that sounds disgusting. Whoa, like Smarties, like the fruity, chalky little things. And she was like, what fruity? No, turns out Canadian Smarties are essentially like better M&Ms. What? I know this blew my mind. I was like, wait, Smarties, little like smooth, chalky, bring those in once. Maybe he did. I didn't know. Apparently Canadian Smarties are chocolatey, like, and with a little candy shell like an M&M. Okay. I was sort of trying to imagine the idea of taking American Smarties and putting them into a into a, because I saw them up there when I was a Dairy Queen. I was like, Smarties, that sounds awful. I'm not ordering that. I don't need a chalky blizzard. But all right. So there you go. Speaking of chalk, is that the way this draft goes when you get to the Seahawks, so they state chalk 3264 and 96. DJ says no. What say you? No, I would tend to lean with DJ there. They're going to, I think, do all they can to try to trade out of that. That happens a little bit more as you get closer as all the evaluations and pre-draft visits and all the things that go into the next couple of weeks. We're only three weeks, three weeks from today is the draft. You want to talk about an expedited off season, right? We usually spend, certainly into March, we're starting to do a whole lot more of this. I'm usually five deep into my prospects at this point. And we're three weeks from today will be the draft. So I will, I think, start next week's talk and we'll probably get to about 12 prospects of different guys that I've heard, that I've seen, that I've listened to, that I think could be fits for Seattle. So we'll start our draft prospects next Monday. But no, I think you would love to trade down and that's going to take some work to do. And that board's got to follow the right way because I think there are years that the Seahawks have wanted to trade down and guess what? You know, to, to, and this is to Brady's point too, where Brady's like, well, they made the picks and I think a number of those years. Yeah, it was like, well, there's the one, it was Jordan Brooks was the one year that I was trying to think. I couldn't remember who it was. It was last week. I think when you were out and I was trying to remember the year they wanted to trade out, but then the Packers ended up trading for Jordan Love kind of right before. And they were hoping they were going to be able to make that deal and they couldn't because they got jumped. And so they ended up, I think that was the Jordan Brooks year. I think you're right. And it was like, yeah, Jordan Brooks is fine, but it's not what they were looking for. No. And I think there have been a couple other drafts that, you know, you do all the work and legwork and then all of a sudden you get there and it just doesn't go that way. You know, the market just didn't turn that way. Somebody else took Ty Simpson. They came up to 30 to take Ty Simpson and not 32 or another prospect or what, you know, so, but I, my gut is with DJ. I think they would love to trade down and add another, and add another second and add another third. And if you were to get four picks between 57 and 96, they would feel a lot better than they would having to, or even in my dream scenario of going up and getting. So would you rather say the move up or move down? Yeah, I think probably move down because that's just their sweet spot. Be who you say you are. And that's what they've been. Now, would I absolutely love? But wait, but it hasn't really been their sweet spot for the like, the building of this team didn't come by moving down all the time. This team was built by making your picks. And actually in one case with Eamon Warrie, who we just were talking about, might be the most important guy in the team in trading up. So I, are you sure? Yeah, I think when you're talking pick five, Devin Witherspoon, and you're talking some of the places they have picked. Yeah, you go get blue chips. But I do think that the, a lot of this draft and a lot of this team was built in the second, third, right? You know, like they are the Derecals. They are the Boy Mothas. It's also the Grays, not just those guys at the top, it's the JSNs at 20 and the Grays Abel and whatever he was, 22 or something like 18. I mean, like, you know, yes, it's not 32, obviously, but it's also, you know, not second, third, fourth round and just trading back all the time. No, it's not big volume. We've seen a little of both. I don't, I'm not saying they shouldn't trade back or that there isn't a lot of value in doing so. I just, yeah, sometimes that works. And sometimes that's when you end up with, what's the guy's name for Michigan State who taxes his tax? Malik McDowell. Yeah, like sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. There's both things. No, I, I, It's kind of draft year dependent and what picks you actually make. Yeah, I don't know, man. I think Jeremiah Love is going to be very, very intriguing to watch in this draft because he is number two with DJ. He's number one on a lot of other people's boards. He's that kind of talent. And if I were to tell you that you're getting Christian McCaffrey or B-Jean Robinson Salk and you're getting that for your 32 pick and a late 20 something or 30 next year, that's, that's very, very, very intriguing to me. Devin Witherspoon was their number one guy. Byron Murphy was their number one defender. I know. I get the number and I give Brian Fleury who comes from San Francisco. You're really making me nervous, Brock. Trading out of next year's draft, which is supposed to be so good. Well, you have 11 other picks in next year's draft. I know, but that's your first round pick in that draft. That's the one with the most value. It's worth like five of those other picks combined. Like I, I don't know, man, that would make me very nervous. I don't like, I in general don't like trading next year's picks. I would like to keep next year's picks. Because unless it's next year's third and you can go up and get the car. Yeah. But in general, especially next year's first, I really don't like to trade it. I'd rather trade this year's second. I just don't like trading next year's first round pick. I'm the risk taker in our relationship, I get it. Yeah. And I'm the guy who next year is like, Hey, I want to trade this pick for Jadevion Clowney or for this year, you know, Miles Garrett or whatever. Like, yeah, I like those first round picks. I think it's valuable to have them for next year. Just me. Okay. That's why we have the relationship we do. Is it? Yes. And how did I miss represent you? That's not what I said. It basically what you said. It was not basically what I said. What did you say then? What did you say? What was this about? What was this all about? What was this about? Representing what someone said in an argument was invented by Mike Salk. This is going to be great. We get near 50. You won't even remember what was said. What was the conversation about that I said you miss? This is when I said, Well, this is about rookie could be the hard knocks guy. He could come in and be an impact player. Right. And I presented in that way and you were like, that is not what I said. Well, what did you say then? No, that's what you said. You said the rookie was going to be. And you poo poo that. No, I didn't poo poo it. I said, I'm, I, it's always hard for me to say that a row to count on a rookie. Right. That's all. Okay. I said it's hard for me to count on a rookie. Maybe I said it with more spice, color and flavor, but it's not my fault. You're bland boring and white bread, man. Like I just said it was spice and flavor, but that's all I said was that's always hard for me. You just call me basic. More just milk and toast. I would say we'll be right back with everything you need to know next. Highlights. Don't win games. The full box score does. I'm Brock cured and most business leaders aren't short on data. They're short on clarity. Numbers are scattered across ERP CRMs and spreadsheets, making decisions reactive instead of confident. And that's not how great businesses are built. Marquis IQ brings all your data together into one clear view. 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Well, there's only a four man rotation that they're running right now. Who do they miss? Will Warren. Okay. Put Rodan and your cold back into it with Weathers and obviously freed and what we saw yesterday from Schlittler. Hmm. Yeah. They won a lot of games. Yeah, they are. I think Yankee's team going to end up being pretty good. That's a hundred. I felt like a hundred when Pete was a little sketchy. Yeah. What's the guy line up is not as deep and our old guy Cabi arrows are short stop every time I see that doval guy. I just think about Octavio Dottel. I don't know what it is. Me too. Do you? I think there's their names are similar enough. The similar build coming out of San Francisco. I don't know for whatever reason. I just see Octavio Dottel part two. But anyway, Mariners go three and four on the homestand. It was not ideal, but Dan Wilson in general feeling pretty good about where they're at. I really am proud of the way the guys came back tonight. You know, it's offensively, you know, what they were able to do to the bullpen there, put up some really good at bats late in the ball game. And, you know, I thought to give us a chance to win and pushed it to late. I understand where Mariners fans are at today, though that is a little frustrating to hear. I'm not saying Dan's wrong. He's not. But I think there was a hope that you just wouldn't hear that very often this year. Well, let's just I think the other kind of spin you could put on this. So I'll just imagine if this were some of the previous years off season acquisitions, the Pollux, the other guys that really struggled. Instead, Cole Young was awesome. Bernadonovan was awesome. Yeah. Dominic Kanzone was awesome. Terrifically look really like all the question marks were great. The challenge was unfortunately the guys you're counting on your big bombers just didn't do what they're going to do. And so I kind of with Dan, I don't think it's odd, all that concerning right now, but I do understand that there's a little buzz of frustration. Here's the second thing you need to also say they're off tonight. Head to Anaheim and then Texas on a road trip that starts tomorrow. It was good to talk to Daniel Jeremiah Brock and try to start to understand what the Seahawks could be looking to do. That edge spot seems like a pretty decent fit between both them and what this draft has to offer. One of the first places there are first people he talked about was this Armacen Thomas. Armacen Thomas is in the back end of my top 50. He's the absolute home run pick who would fit. To me, he plays. He's got an extremely explosive get off. He plays with big energy. He's got active hands. He's not the biggest guy in the world. It's 241 pounds, but I thought he played bigger than that, played violent. There's a touch of tightness in there. To me, it's just the effort and the energy and the juice that he brings off the edge. He's the perfect to me on a great team. I saw it on a team that obviously didn't end up being great, but the Chargers had O-Way who went out and got 25 million bucks as their third rusher. As the number two rusher on a team, he's a good player. Maybe you wanted a little more, but when he's your number three rusher and he's part of that rotation, you're keeping him fresh and he's just throwing fastballs the whole time. Armacen Thomas. He wasn't your number one rugged guy, Brock, but is that a fit at number 32? 6-2-2-40 and just a ball of absolute muscle. Kind of reminds me of Nick Benito who came out of Oklahoma as well and has turned into a pro bowl difference making edge rusher there for the Denver Broncos. I will say this and we'll again, we'll kind of team more and more of this up with three weeks from the draft today. If there is a position, remember those years that you just trusted John Schneider. It just didn't matter what backup D tackle, starting D tackle. He's going to find the Tony McDonald's. You just can find them. You're just going to find them over and over and over and over again. If there is an area of absolute strength of Mike McDonald's going to Baltimore, going to Michigan, coming to Seattle where you would say, man, I really trust his eye, his projection, exactly what he wants. Edge has to be there, right? I mean, it has to be right near the top of the list because everybody that's played for him college professionally is very much had the golden touch. And for the record, Quentin McDonald, Tony McDaniel and my memory is just fine. Here's the third day you need to know. I believe, bro, the flex on you. Puka Naku is in Malibu. In fact, he's at a rehab facility there. Apparently that's their plan to get Puka cleaned up. But they don't really say what he's there for drugs, alcohol. No, we see them plenty drunk and with the texture, I thought I had it right. But like, it sounds like it's just going there to work on being a jerk. Okay. I'm just working on getting better trying to be a little bit here. Listen to, uh, here we go. Here's Steve Weisch with the statement from the lawyer. This is according to his attorney, Levi McAther, who provided me. I'm going to read it part of a statement that Puka's taking responsibility for his well being and is focused on improving his performance during the off season. Puka voluntarily entered a private facility to focus on his health, personal growth and overall development. He has come up with that overall development. His health, his personal well being. His well being. I don't know, man. I get uncomfortable with the, if he's still, if he's trying to get help, so I have a hard time. I get the cynicism. It doesn't feel like it. Brock, it doesn't feel like he's trying to get help. How can you sit in this seat and say that? Like, how do you know that? How do you feel that? I guess I just feel like if I were trying to get help, I wouldn't be in Malibu doing it. But that is where celebrities go to pretend to get help and make it a PR thing. But Tiger leaves the country to get help and he gets ripped for doing that too. Like, I don't know. I just, I didn't get Tiger. I understand that, but I'm not ripping Tiger. I am going to rip the people that go to these, you know, ridiculous Malibu clinics and say what it is then. He's got a five and sunny and Malibu socks. Well, not just that. Like that's what celebrities do. Yeah, it's an alcohol problem. You've seen it multiple times in videos. You've seen him out totally spiraling out of control, doing really stupid stuff. It's funny. I don't necessarily, I feel less comfortable saying he has an alcohol problem. Okay. I don't know that whether he has an alcohol problem. I know he said some really done some really obnoxious things because I've seen it. How about under influence issues then? He seems to have some issues. That's for sure. Sure they'll get fixed in Malibu. That is everything you need to know. You try to flex your detackle knowledge. Was that what you tried? I did. Well, just a little quit in McDonald Tony, McDaniel, since you combine them into one person, I thought I would just show off that the members are just fine. Got Alan Branch, Brock. I don't think you want to forget about big Alan Branch or the guy who a top of Ruben who would always get all the water, big water guy, always at the water. Yeah, dude, don't worry about me and Jordan Hill. The guy who gave us the worst interview in the history of radio. Worst interview in the history. That guy made who was it? Worst and Vita Vaya. Yes. Wow. James Carpenter. Worst. Worst interview we've ever had, I think is Jordan because he had been there because of the context. Like those guys are bad. Don't get me wrong. But Jordan Hill was literally there when the guy from Australia nearly died and they rushed him to the hospital. Jesse something. YOLO. Jesse. YOLO. What was that guy's name? Big Jesse. Williams. Williams. He nearly died. They were roommates. We talked to Jordan Hill. We're like, what was that like? What was that night like? Come back and play the four interviews. Do you remember what he said? He was like, ah, playing video games. I just went back and play video games. Like, okay, the guy almost died. Your roommate. Like, yeah. I think we need to play that. That was a no. No. No. Vita Vaya and Carpenter and let the people. I don't hopefully we don't have all those things anymore. We'll be right back on Brock and salt. Highlights don't win games. The full box score does. I'm Brock cured and most business leaders aren't short on data. They're short on clarity. Numbers are scattered across ERP CRM's and spreadsheets, making decisions reactive instead of confident. 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Conflicted, a little conflicted. Super excited and conflicted just because Holly, you know, I'm a big believer that, you know, your difference makers and your stars and your better players are always the ones and you start a season and it's a homestand. There's 40,000 there for most of the games and it's Yankees like, rise the occasion. I would have loved to have seen your best players to kind of rise the occasion. Certainly, Luis did and Brian Wu did and number your pitchers did, but man, I just would have loved to have seen your best players who've got the biggest track records, who you are over 162 most confident in. I would have loved for them to have just shown up a little bit, just like a little, little bit. Yeah, so I agree with that. And unfortunately, other than a cow walk off and, you know, he had a couple of those moments outside of that. It was not even and Julio had the one to send an extra inning. So they each flash like one play, but just a little, just a little more through the first seven games to kick off 2026. So I think that's actually a pretty good take. And I agree with you. I would like to have seen more from those guys also. They were disappointing this weekend or this week rather. They were like, I don't know how else you could spin that. They were, they were disappointing. I mean, the three guys who you were counting on offensively the most didn't hit. Okay. So can I tell you a quick, I didn't even tell you. But I just want to, again, be clear. Yeah. The difference between didn't hit and can't hit. Does that make sense? Yes. Because we get that a lot. That's the, that's where the conf, did they hit? No, that's not good enough. And if they're going to do that for a long period of time, the Mariners are going to be in trouble this year. So my wife, I don't think they're going to do that for a long period of time. So let me quick, quick, quick, quick little story. Yeah. Maybe not even that quick. Maybe it's going to be a minute, but we got some opportunity to do it. And I think you'll get a chuckle out of this. And I don't think you'll put two and two together of who this was because I want to keep it anonymous. But it was a long time baseball player and Molly was chatting with his wife yesterday. And, and we're just chatting about different circumstances and youth sports and all the college sports, even and da da da da. And she shared a story about her husband and the one organization he was in at one point. They were in the clubhouse and they loved playing cards and this group loved each other. And even to the point where the skipper be like, boys, let's go, you know, get dressed. We got to go play. And it was time to go embarrass our families. Like that was like put the cards down and now we got to go fail. Because they're a bad team. Partly, but also because two out of three times or three out of four or four out of four or 26 out of 27. It bats, you're going to fail. You know, like, oh, time to go for it. Unfortunately, like have our families watch us flail and watch us fail. You know, like that's what that's funny. Hitting is such a little remind. And this was a great player. Like this is not a scrub. This is a great talented guy. Played a long time. But just that reminder of how much of a sport of failure this is. It is. And so when you, when three guys have a bad week, it stinks. It is absolutely worth talking about and trying to figure out how they get out of that. I don't know that it necessarily is indicative of anything that we're going to see tomorrow or for the rest of the season. You just don't know, but it was frustrating. There's no doubt. And, and I think a little bit more frustrating because of the high expectations. Also frustrating and maybe even to some degree important because of what happened in spring training, not that they weren't great on the field, but just sort of the whole cow and Randy and like that, that Julio thing is just sort of, you know, in the background. Is it a, is it a story? Oh, you're talking about that. Yeah. It's not a story unless it is. And those things generally don't become stories unless things don't go the way people want them to go and people don't hit the way you want to hit. And all of a sudden frustration starts to creep in a little bit. And yeah, I mean, here was Dan on the homestand in general. Obviously we've got some adjustments to make offensively and we will do that. But, you know, I think our guys to see the epats that they were putting up and the adjustments they've made that the work ethic that we've seen around here. I mean, I think that we're, we're in a good spot. You know, we obviously you want to win more games on the opening part of your season here, but feel good about the, you know, the adjustments we're making and the direction we're heading and I thought, you know, the pitching was outstanding for us as we got started. And there's a lot of positive we can draw from this home stand and that's what we'll take on the road with us. I think that is all very true. Again, like I am certainly the last person to say that I'm sitting here freaking out. Oh my God, it was a bad home stand this and that. But I do think that this April is maybe a little bit more important than some others. And some of that has to do with the expectations and some of it has to do with, you know, some of that off field stuff in the clubhouse at spring training. I do think that this year I've got a little bit more attention on how they start the season than I normally would. That doesn't mean that seven games means a whole lot to me. But I do have my eyes open to it. I do. I do this year. What we did, I think if you played our take back from last year, which I think the team had basically the identical record after seven games, I think we would have said many of the same things because they did because they said every, every battle matters and April matters and these games matter and we don't want to wait to get hot till August and September and have to, you know, win 17 in a row or win 17 of 18. And then they did exactly that. I know. And then they did exactly that. They started slow. They had a big slump and then they did need to and accomplished the unbelievable winning streak at the end of the year to glimpse the whole thing. It's why you can only put so much stock into what you see in a week. Obviously, it's why you can't launch shanks out the window after week one. But you can't have some, some thoughts on what we're seeing, right? And I do have some nerves about the bullpen. I do have some, some watch list on what's going on against lefties because they, they're lefty heavy. You heard Jerry say it the other day, hey, if Colt Emerson was right handed, it might actually benefit us right now. But unfortunately he's one of like nine guys that it's better left handed. So, you know, they do have a couple of these little things that we're watching, but at the end of the day, Luke Rayleigh's hitting, Dominic Kanzone's hitting, Brennan Donovan's hitting, Colt Young is hitting. I mean, like those stories are tremendous. And I think those were, those were the ones that sort of are, are tipped the scales. Counterbalance it. Yes. Now I will say this is DJ who just joined us and he will leading up to the draft Daniel Jeremiah show is back for the next three weeks in the two weeks after. Even Mike McDonald referencing it with K Adams this week at the owners meetings like, okay, I'm kind of done watching the college gets. Let me go back and watch the pros. If there was one element outside of just some of the struggling bats against really good pitchers, which that to me didn't even really stand out that much. The one and I hate to say this because he's been their best player. He's the best player this spring. He was the best player through seven games. He did everything right offensively, Brennan Donovan. But if there was one element that was like, ooh, that doesn't look quite right. It was him playing through base. True. You know, and just like just from a comfort level in, and I don't know if that's an arm strength level. If we're, you know, kind of like a QB. What did you think, Lyle? Well, you know, just watching him a third a little bit. What was your takeaway from Donovan? I mean, the early metrics don't love it. I thought aside from the one errant throw on the bun, it hasn't been. It hasn't been terrible, but aside, but this is also why I think he's just going to start to move around a lot when Colt Emerson eventually gets up. And this talk about, well, where are you going to fit everybody in playing time wise? If Donovan's locked in at third and where does Emerson play? No, I think Donovan's just going to move around. I think that's well said. And, and. The photo mentioned Donovan moving around twice the other day when he was talking about Emerson and JP. You got to imagine that they're looking at this thinking that there's a little bit of the Polanco thing from last year. Remember this time last year, Polanco was playing third base, at least in theory. He was hurt and they weren't talking about it, but he was, he was playing third base. And we all looked at it like, well, he's not a third baseman. He's not even really a second baseman, but he really isn't a third baseman. And it worked out they found the right spot for him as the D.A.H. And occasionally playing some second base in the right matchups and it worked out very, very well for him and for them last year. I don't have that much concern about it working out for Donovan because he can hit and if you can hit, they'll find a spot for you. And if you got a D.H. more often, you'll D.H. more often. If it means he's got to go to the outfield more often, he'll go to the out like it'll work out. But I think you're right, Lyle. I think that playing him every day at third may not be the most comfortable thing for him or for them. And you can call me cockamamie and say, we don't know baseball. Whatever. My eye is watch throwers all my life and I can see throwers. And when we sat with him and he talked about how different the mechanics are, that throw from third base, we have been spoiled in this market with guys that can play some elite from a throwing especially. Hey, you Hainio's arm is Matthew Stafford ask a key throws ropes. Right. Even you watch McMahon, who's been a good third baseman and call around and everything. And you watch some of the throws that you required to make. These are not second base throws. These are legit big boy throws. And, you know, he talked about that transition and, you know, how Perry's working with them. But that is when I got to throw comebacks and out routes, and I don't get to throw flats and hitch routes. That gets in your head. And when it's quite often, then I got to come up on the run and then I got to take this angle out and then I got to reach, you know, just there's a lot going on there that we take for granted because we've seen great natural third baseman, even Ben Williamson. Last year was like, whoa, this dude is an elite defensive. He's not bad. I mean, I don't think he was ever billed that way. He's not an elite level defensive anything. But if he can be solid enough there, obviously the bat that you get is so different from what you have with Williams. Yeah, the last couple of years, he just hasn't played a ton of third base. We played 31 games at third in his rookie year in 22. He played 15 combined between 23 and 24. Last year, it didn't play any third. So yeah, it's not his primary position by any means. He's played a whole lot more left field in second base in his career than he has third, which is why I think he'll still move around. Yeah, like, I bring that up. When Emerson gets up a decent amount more. That's where it's, yes. And that's where this conversation then leads to me. Like that's where it's intriguing. That's why I bring it up not to nitpick Brandon Donovan's three years and some of the challenges in the road and all of the experience is going to have to gain in a hurry. It's more of, well, if you got this kid doing a Tacoma, that's just making these unbelievable throws and it's got a rocket arm and it's got tremendous athleticism. And is there an opportunity, right? Eventually, and I don't know, is it Memorial Day? Do you wait? Is it May 1st? I don't know. But to me, that is where with this new deal and new contract to and his performance, most importantly, that's the one where I think it's really intriguing of what's on the stove just 30 miles to the south. Yeah. And probably why Ben Williamson's also not a mariner and why you made that move, right? Because eventually not going to be room for him. That's right. Right. So, so all in all, a three and four homestands a day off today, that'll be great. And then they could totally file out. It's going to be in the mid 80s all week in LA and all weekends. I'm excited for them to win a couple of games in Anaheim and then have the other group of textures text in. Like we got the negative group for a couple of days and then they'll win a couple games and we'll get the positive. They're not always the same people. It's a different group that comes flying back in over the top. Packers ticket holders. There is a Milwaukee fan base and a Green Bay fan base. Right. So that's okay. And there's the same Mariner fan base and the hope springs eternal fan. Beauty is all welcome aboard the bus. They are. And it's a beauty of baseball and why my late great dear friend Dory Monson said to me when we started this thing, you're going to love baseball because it's a great everyday conversation. It gives you material every single day. Just one of the many things Dory and I really saw eye to eye on was the exceptional nature of talking baseball every day is fun. And I think that. And that's why by the way you're nitpicking Donovan's defense. You're right. I agree. It's a little nitpicky. But that's kind of the fun thing to do in baseball is go through all of the various machinations and how you could make changes and what you could do differently. Nobody sitting here saying Brandon Donovan shouldn't play. The kick can hit. He's been arguably their best hitter along with Luke and Luke Rayleigh and Dominic Canzon in the first week of the season. He can hit and he's a great fit for this team. What's the best way to take advantage of his skills while still taking advantage of what everybody else has either around the infield the outfield to make sure you're maximizing the potential of a group of really talented people. We haven't seen a lot of them moving around yet. JP Crawford hasn't been healthy. So Reevas has had to play short every day. Will we eventually see Cole Young get a start at shortstop? Maybe. Could we see Young at short and Reevas get a day off and Donovan move to second for a day and maybe feel comfortable. Like there are some other way or bliss comes in for like there are some other ways to kind of make this thing work. And I'm a little curious to see how that and I hope is this team as matured as they are a World Series contender as we've gotten to this point is we made it is the team made an incredible run last year. I hope we can just kind of get to a point kind of like you and I do. Right. We see the world very differently in so many different ways. But guess what we can talk about it. And you know what is baseball fans. We can talk about some days we can work through it. Right. You know what Julio I can bring up Julio having a really rough start and I can bring up that Julio wants to change the narrative of slow starts and I can bring up that Julio home and away splits are very dramatic. And when there's a home stand like this and it's just a real struggle at home that I want to see that changed and that's OK. It doesn't mean I think Julio sucks or I don't like him or I think he's terrible. I love Julio. I love him. I would love to see the narrative of slow starts changed and these first seven don't help that. All right. So maybe he'll go for the next six in Anaheim and Texas Salk and hit three bombs and go nine of nine of 18 and turn things around and I'll be the first one celebrating that. That's awesome. Let me ask you guys this. There are three players on the team today with an OPS over 1000 three players through the first week of the season. Brendan Donovan. Young and Dom Kanzone. That's actually almost right. Donovan Kanzone and Rayleigh all have an OPS over 1000. Donovan is 12 83. Kanzone is 12 12 and Rayleigh is 10 94. But you're right. You're not far off with Cole Young. It's 8 66. So and I think he's probably played more games than the other guys have other than Donovan. So yeah. I mean like he's he those four guys. Not that any of them are necessarily going to sustain that level but of those four who's the most sustainable over the course of the season. Yeah. I mean I had hedge my bet track record wise of Brendan Donovan. Yeah. You know and with this lineup behind it and where he's at in his career. I had my bet there but as far as encouraging signs. They have Brandon Donovan but Brendan Donovan as a point six win player already in a week. Yeah. That's pretty remarkable. That's B war. That's baseball reference. But like they think he's already worth more than a half a win. You continue that over the course of the season which is what 13 weeks long roughly. But I'll say this six and a half win player. I'll say this what may be the most encouraging short term long term over all of that is what Benetti said to us on Monday. Like I really like Cole Young. They really like him too. Right. As he's listening to conversations around the club and talk to the people that he is around baseball watching it with his own eyes. I'll be at one of them wondering. He would say that yeah man Cole Young and there was nothing even as a bat in the game yesterday. Yeah. It's like a nine pitch is grinding. Just fighting stuff. Well so that leads me to my next to my next fun with Mariner stats question for you guys. All right. Right now Brandon Donovan as I just said leads the team in war at point six. Two players are tied for second at point five through just one week in the season. Who are they. I mean Luke Rayleigh's hit three home runs unfortunately hasn't played a ton. So he's just at point two. Yeah. Can zone similar problem plus he DHS point three. So neither of those guys are second. Which two players are tied with a point five is Cole Young and Cole Young is one. Emerson Hacock. No not yet. No he was point three. Somehow he was point three. Luis Castillo is point four. I don't understand how that works. That is definitely an oddity to the war standing which is why I don't generally look at it for pitchers. Number two tied for number two Randy Arosarana. How about that 775 OPS and he stole a bag and they must have loved his defense. I did not but maybe somebody else did but he's already been a half a win player. I mean for all of the talk about Randy and he gets kind of forgotten about a little bit in the lineup. He is another one of those star like characters who's a thread who kind of makes this thing go. I don't really understand enough of how war is calculated in order to figure that out. And maybe if you looked at fan graphs you'd get a different probably not a different number. How wars calculated salt. All right. Thank you. Brog I don't maybe fan graphs at four would look different but it just kind of jumped out to me of like man like it's not always exactly what you think sometimes guys are contributing in ways that we're not always noticing those four or five guys. If those five guys continue to hit continue to contribute. This team is going to be amazing because who is going to come around and nailer is going to come around and and and Cal is going to come around and not all of these guys are going to contribute at this ridiculous level. But if they just have good seasons if Luke Rayleigh doesn't have an 1100 OPS but a 775 OPS. Yep. This team is going to be awesome if can zone continues to hit and builds off what he did last year where he hit 300 right now. Is it 333 like he's he's backing it's not that he's doing something new can zones backing up the way he finished last year other than the postseason. So I am kind of excited about what we're seeing from the role players. That's kind of conflicted right like these first seven games. I think it's the right answer and you can spin a story and spin a tell that way very easily and not just perception or fake but with numbers and then you could spend the story on the other side of some of the struggles and not perception but just with the basic numbers. Beauty of the data baseball man. You can you can paint and tell different stories. But I do kind of like they're going on the road to I do like they're getting warm. I do like it'll be in division with Anaheim and Texas and we'll get to see it. Texas off to a great start when in both their series including one in Philadelphia against some good pitching. So it'll be kind of kind of good to get a little feel for the rest of the American League. Lyle how you feeling after a week. Fine to be honest. I didn't really expect him to beat the Yankees. They don't really ever beat the Yankees in a series. So yeah they're three and four. It's it is what it is. Yeah sounds about right. I don't know. I thought I thought that first home season. I thought last year you said you gave up on the Mariners 25 times. So by my expectation we got to get pretty close here. If we get to 13 or 14 after this road trip will be 10% of the way done. I mean you got to give up on him at some point here. Now you give up much more often later. Oh it'll get mixed. I just can't promise when. There's no rhyme or reason to it but at some point good stuff. Good stuff. All right fun conversations and we'll continue with them tomorrow. G Scott. Oh yeah. Remember if you've got a question for G leave us a message on the Seattle Sports App message. He wants to hear from the people. Yeah. G wants to hear from you. He wants questions scenarios whatever. Ask G analogy. He likes all that. Loves that stuff. It's going to be all dating questions. So if you're going to watch the UFL tomorrow check me out. No Columbus Aviator. Are you doing that? Yes. Do you have to go there? Just a couple games this year. Yes. When do you leave? Yes. Tonight. Are you doing the show tomorrow? No I told you I got two UFL games to do. I honestly didn't realize that. Yeah I got the DC Defenders at the Columbus Aviators. You're ditching me for the Aviators and the Defenders? It's a big one tomorrow. Come on man. Of all the reeks. You know what when you ditch me for vacation I get it. You're ditching me for that? I got to work. Especially because I was going to take tomorrow off and I decided not to. You can't. I can't now. Not now. I can't have the Defenders and Aviators taking priority. Alright I'll be here tomorrow. Brock have a good weekend. I'll see you on Monday. G will be in at 830 and all sorts of other fun stuff. Until then of course the hay. He's in the bar. See you everybody. This is a job one.