The Pats Grow Up, Nobody Believes in the Jags, the Bears are a Sports Movie, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

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What a win though for the Pats and what a loss for the Ravens. Where do you want to start? I heard the Collins words. You know, you just cannot scare Drake may. I've, I've, I've tried it. I toss plastic spiders at him. I threw a shark in his bed one night. I brought him to the top of Mount Vesuvius and try to push him off. You can do it. Bill, you can do it. Mike, I hid in his closet once and I had a Michael Myers mask on. He was not phased. He didn't move. He didn't budge. Yeah. They, they tried everything. I mean, the biggest thing they didn't try was playing Derek Henry in the last seven minutes of the game. Yeah. I don't understand what happened. We couldn't, we couldn't tackle him. Well, he was just over on the bench with an overcoat on. And then after the path score to go up four, he was still on the bench. He didn't get it. He was here. They never said anything. Right. I don't know. There wasn't a ton of injury reporting going today. Like Henderson was just gone. We didn't know for an hour what happened to him. Then like, yeah, he's gone. He's out with a head injury. Okay. Thanks. Right. But yeah, we didn't have a lot of reporting on this stuff. That's a big one. That's a big one. You easily, I mean, you did text us. You like, we got too many guys out. I was like, who's, who's out? Bronco Brady. The bundle was getting a little, he's getting a little feisty on the Sunday, Sunday ringer pregame thread about how we were the paper mache paths. Yeah. I was like, Hey, we'll be there in January. We're going to get our guys back. We were missing all of the offensive tackles, the run stopper, and then the home run hit our Henderson. And it didn't matter because Drake made just said, fuck it. And I know Diggs was, Diggs was the other one. Diggs hasn't done that in a month. Maybe more than a month. He thought he would do it against Buffalo or Disney, but yeah. No, I see. Like it's, you know, the football gods say, Hey, these guys got beat up by a real quarterback last week. We got to go back to normal where they just beat up on, on shitty QBs. So, uh, yeah, my heart bleeds for you. You got, you got, uh, Ty Hunley again. Nice job. I know, but was, was from what Lamar has been the last five weeks, was it like a massive drop off? Did you feel like, Oh no. I mean, I thought it was pretty good. It was good. Except for the last drive. He was okay. He moved the ball. I mean, it wasn't his fault. Say flowers got stripped on an awesome play by Jason. Yeah. No, it was a good win. That's a, that's a kind of when you want, when it's cold and then you're on the road and all that stuff. And now who knows, maybe you won't even be on the road. Well, so they're down 24, 14, he hits Kyle Williams on that bomb in the corner, which is a throw he's made at least 10 times this year for a touchdown. And the guys usually never open. Kyle Williams is the speed guy that we have drafted this entire century and have gone basically over 12 in these guys. And this is the first one who's actually made plays for them in big moments. But that was an awesome throw by Bay. And then the next drive, they're on there. What are they on their own 11 hits Hollins for 20 and they're just moving down. And then the third really shaky call of the game was that, that long bomb, no booty that he got tackled. No call, even though booty got an OPI. I'm like, you know, a pretty chintzy one earlier than that, but we got a master's class and OPIs and PIs today. That's all the whole throughout the day. Like everybody, everybody, I never, I mean, if I was the Lions fan, I would be out of my mind. The chiefs run that pick play, or at least they did during the Mahomes era. What did they run that play 10 times a game? Be careful. You would have to get back like six Lombardi trophies to, if you're going to play this game. Pick plays? Yeah. With the Amondollan. It was exactly one yard or less than a yard, whatever it was. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now they can, well, the worst one was the same brown OPI. I just feel like guys do that all the time. They usually call the big tight ends on that and that's it. But so May ends up 31 for 44 for 380 with two touchdowns. And I didn't look at the Fandall MVP odds, but what do you think? Did that move him up or is it Stafford's to lose at this point? Yeah, it moved him up because Stafford was minus 350. He's at minus 185 now and maybe is plus 160. And Josh Allen is 25 to one now. Yeah. He wasn't good today. I think Allen was the right bet for a couple of weeks there, but he just didn't do enough in the Cleveland game. And I think that ship has probably sat on him. Yeah, May is plus 175. Plus 175. It's moving as we're talking. It's very exciting. Yeah. Well, it's interesting because I have all my notes from when I thought they were going to lose. And one of the first notes was Drake May, really good, not quite good enough because he had the pick in the first half and he had the fumble. And this is something we've talked about a bunch of times on this pod about like, everything is there. And the last thing is to get rid of those two dumb plays a game and maybe knock them down to one or zero. But the best quarterbacks that they're at one or zero with the dumb plays and he had the bad pick and he had the fumble and traffic, which he's had a couple of times in his career. And also, because the fake punt was terrible. I don't know why they did that. That was bad news. What was that? Fourth and 10? Yeah. And it's like, if the one receiver is not going to be open over the middle, the place is not going to work. We're going to have to eat it with our third string safety is going to have to try to take on nine guys. So I don't know what happened on that. Let's read your notes as if they lost. I like, let's, you still have those notes. I think that'll be my favorite. I had, did the Ravens lose anything going from Lamar, from hampered Lamar to Huntley? I had the Pats are missing all of their offensive tackles, their run stopper and their home run hitting running back. Will they be okay in January? And then I wrote down, is the season just too long because we're just seeing injuries every week now. And like the Lions today were like the fucking zombie Lions. What was that team? They couldn't even run the ball anymore. They were calling running plays, but we have eight, nine teams. Like the chiefs lost their backup quarterback to a torn ACL, the double torn ACL. Same injury going for the trifecta next week. Yeah. Maybe we don't need an 18 game season. Yeah. The lines went through. They're on their third center of the day today, not like of the year, like of the day today. And it couldn't run the ball. Like they had 15 yards rushing. Everyone had Gibbs props over. Didn't happen. Well, I'm sure we'll talk about that. But one more thing about that, I'll give you credit and I love how begrudging you are with the main thing. We're going to talk about Trevor Lawrence later and I'm going to have some apologies. You should have lost today, but he, we should have won last week. We're up 21-nothing. I know you said like the offensive line is a mess. They weren't pressure. That's the one guy in the league you can't not pressure. He will freaking torch you because he has such a good long ball, right? He does throw guys open from 45 yards, from 18 yards, from 12, all different distances. I don't know if there's another guy like that in the league where it's like, all right, you don't pressure him. He is just going to destroy you much like number 12 back in the day for you in Foxboro. So I'll give you that. I don't think he's a good guy. But Sal, here's the issue with this. Go ahead. His numbers against the Blitz are like among the best in the league. Like that's one of the things he's great at. Collins, or did a good job today pointing out like he holds the ball to the last possible second and gets rid of it usually accurately. But I don't really know what the move is. Yeah. What's the, what's the, what's the in between no pressure and the Blitz that he does well again because that's what teams need to do. I mean, I, I hesitated like somebody is going to steal my secrets because they won't. But I would, I would do the disguise thing that the teams used to do against my homes where it was just a bunch of guys and you never knew if they were coming or going and it's like, great people coming. Oh, they're all sinking back and just, I would just try to disguise as much stuff as possible. The problem is, well, I assume the Henderson is just a concussion and he'll be back in January. Yeah. But, you know, with, with when it's just for Andre, like he's not really a pass catching back. He, if Henderson had been on that wheel route in the end zone that was just over like Henderson scores on that. That's a touchdown. You cannot scare him. You can't scare a dream. What are you going to do now? Well, the Jaguars were feeling unbelievable there for about a half hour because they really had a chance there to, to steal the one seed with any chicanery. But now the, it's too confusing now that Denver's 12 and three new England's 12 and three and Jacksonville's 11 and four. So I guess it's going to come down the last couple of weeks. What's interesting is the Christmas games for the teams are eliminated now. Three Christmas games in the, somehow the NBA games. It's a win for the NBA. Yeah. The NBA was like, God, the NFL's taking our turf. And now we're in this situation where the NBA games are probably better. It's one thing to be eliminated, but when it's Josh Johnson versus Dak Prescott, when it's Max Brosmer versus Jared Goff, when it's Bro Nicks against Chris Oladoken, that's, that's bad times. That's not really good. I don't know. I mean, maybe some of those starters come back for a second string. But, you, you follow college and I don't Chris Oladoken, just a complete stump for me. Never heard of him. Didn't know how old he was or where he went to college. He had to look it up. He only played for like three colleges. It wasn't that bad. He ended in South Dakota State, South Florida, Sanford drafted by the Steelers like three years ago. And now he's the future of the Kansas city chiefs and the Christmas game. I need your honest answer on something. This could be a social media clip. Give it a word. Do you think the Patriots are good enough to make the Super Bowl? From what you've seen, you watch a lot of football every week. And the case for them, I think to make it is that the AFC is wide open. They have a quarterback who potentially might have real greatness in them. They can run the ball just enough. They should be able to get enough of their offensive lineback in time for January. Their defense is feisty. It's a tough team. It's a real together team. They have good chemistry. They're going to have at least one home game in the playoffs. I'm not allowing myself to think about it like in a real way, but I thought that win today was a little different because Baltimore, that just seemed like a game Baltimore was going to win and they took it from them. I'll say it. Yes. Yes. So you think it's conceivable. Well, why wouldn't it be? You beat the bills already and they're like ahead of you. Like they would have to do it on the road and all that like that. But you could at least play close with the bills in January, right? Because the bill's defense looked horrible today against Cleveland. I mean, really like awful. They give up a lot of big plays. Like they give up big plays to nobodies too. I think like, you know, Travion Williams and Isaiah Bond, they're eating you up. They like they give up five 15 yard plays. The only thing that's working for them is James Cook has more than five 15 yard plays. So at the end of the day, they have more points. Yeah. And that's the thing is you go, well, as you go through all the teams, everybody's got their couple of things to point to where we're like, we have this. Right. And for Buffalo, it's Allen and Cook. And it's like, we have this, you know, the Pats have Drake May and Vrabel. Yeah. Jacksonville. I can't wait to talk about them because I thought that was the most impressive performance today, but we got to save it for a little bit later. But you go through the AFC and it feels like everybody you can make a case for you could poo poo. Yeah. And you're just going down the line of like, no, here's why this Denver, they've been lucky that for three months, it finally caught up to them today. This is closer to who they are. You can just deal with every team. I mean, what are they going to do? Like the talking heads are going to say, how's this start? No way New England beats Jacksonville in January. No way New England beats Denver in January. That's just, that's just for clicks. That's not true. Well, and then Houston, everybody's sleeper, which I had my fantasy season died today because the CJ Strad and Nico Collins and I can't overstate how bad CJ Strad was today. I don't know how many throws he missed, but it was over 10. We're just like, throws he just missed that either sailed, he threw it, led the guy out of bounds, like all kinds of things was just, I don't know what happened to that team today, but the Raiders like they came very close to beating them. They could have won. And it was, they, it felt like the Texans just thought they could show up. You know, I don't know if they knew it was Andrew Catalan's 200th game. Oh, I didn't know that. That was. They met everybody. Even, even the officiating guy, he stepped in and congratulated him. Yeah. 200 games for Andrew. Wow. And then it was Chris Myers, 132nd straight Carolina Panthers game today. That was the other thing. What did he say? They stopped the game in the third quarter. He commented on how he's never heard this place so loud. It's like, yeah, well you live here. You're here. You're here more than your actual house. Your apartment is the suite in the Panthers stadium. I feel way better about the NFC than the NFC from a Super Bowl standpoint, I think. What do you mean picking a winner? You mean, or? I just think the Rams are, I do too. I think the Rams are a class up. Not saying the pets couldn't beat them. And by the way, you know, we saw two games already this, this week come down to the dumbest two point conversion I've ever seen in my life. And then, and then whatever the fuck happened last night in that bears packers game, which was the dumbest win of the year, the last couple years. It was awesome. Congratulations to the bears, but that was bonkers. The fourth down guy in the corner that nobody's ever heard of making a shoestring, reaching up catch. And then you get an onside kick. There's like two onside kicks a year. I, I, and then Kayla has the best row of the year to win the game. That was nuts. That's what I don't understand about that Chicago team. And we could go through that the 10 games they should have lost when they were losing by six or eight or 10 and with a few minutes left in the fourth quarter. But when it gets down to it, if they're there, he throws some great balls. He really does. And he gets away from sex. He really does. Like it could be second and 20 every time and he always gets out of it somehow. Yeah. But yes, you're right. The onside kick is insanity. It's like, you know, Dobbs is treating it like it's covered in like rhinoceros shit or something. Just bat that out of bounds. Get rid of it. If you don't want it to, you want to catch it, it's fine. Just kick it out of bounds. I don't get that. I could do it. We do it in my living room. Me and the boys, we do it in the living room. We pretend we're recovering onside kick and I guarantee all of us are better than what we saw the other day. It's pretty bad. Well we have, so Denver's got at KC, which is suddenly one of the easiest weeks in the league. KC is terrible now. And then they're home for the Chargers who just keep winning as we keep trying to look for reasons not to think that they have any sort of anything and they just keep beating everybody. Pats play at the Jets who are just awful. They are horrible. I mean, they fell back nine, six. I was going against the Saints defense in fantasy and it was any third play, third down. It was just a sack. And then they're home for Miami who looked like they quit today for, they looked like they were done for the season. They're fine. Then Jacksonville's at Indy who suddenly has to win tomorrow basically to stay alive and then home for Tennessee. I don't know. Who would you bet on for the one seed? So you got the odds too. Yeah, I have them here. So are you six, no, you're six 50 for the one seed or did that go down? No, we're plus 180. Denver's minus 145. Jacksonville's plus eight 50. Well, looking for it. Yeah. Right. I think it stays. I think it stays as it is. Well, it would have to be the Chargers winning in Denver. Right. I think it's Denver because they're going to get an easy win next week. And then, you know, I think they maybe learned a little bit. I mean, I didn't think I knew Nick's was like slinging it like John Elway last week. I'm like, we're not going to get that again today. Probably are we, you know, he's somewhere in between there. But yeah. Yeah. The Jacksonville just beat them up like all over. Like you can't, I mean, was he 14 touchdowns? No interceptions in the last four games. Lawrence just doesn't turn the ball over anymore. We, I want to dive into that game quickly on Houston though. Yeah. And the Chargers Chargers 11 and four, but they play Houston this this upcoming week. And then Houston is 10 and five. They go Chargers Indianapolis. There is a scenario where the Chargers could win this Houston game and then week 18 means nothing when they play Denver. If the Colts lose tomorrow, basically, right? You know, if the Colts lose tomorrow, that would be another way. So there's a bunch of scenarios where the Chargers don't care about week 18 and they're like, fuck it. Let's, let's sit Herbert. He's hurt anyway. So I would, the Denver minus 145, I think would be the safe move. That's the one. Because Casey is done like that. Like put a fork in them. That's the one for sure. And the league has sort of been troubled trying to figure out important games for the next two weeks. And when we went over Christmas, it doesn't get a lot better for the Saturday, Sunday, late Monday, next week. Well, you know what really hurt was this Baltimore last day. For sure. Cause now they're, they're seven and eight. Is that their record? Yeah. Seven and eight, Pittsburgh nine and six. So Pittsburgh's, the magic number is one basically. How does this happen? Can we do Pittsburgh? Yeah. Yeah. Minus 1,100 to win that division. Every time I think it's the dumbest dealers when I've ever seen, they just go hold my beer and they have like a dumber win. And this one would have been a really terrible loss because it seemed like the game was over and then all of a sudden the lines are driving. There's a game winning lateral to Jared Goff that gets called back by a PI that took them five minutes to figure out because I think they were afraid they were going to get jumped leaving the stadium. Right. And then they're like, it was a touchdown. Hold on. But it was an OPI. The game's over. Go home, everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Touchdown, but yeah. And we can't get rid of the Steelers. That's 19 straight, 500 or better Tom on seasons. They somehow, I think they had run out of stupid wins. So they were like, what if we got two OPIs inside the five yard line with under 30 seconds left to win? Have we done that yet? They're looking at like their big syllabus and shitty stupid ridiculous steeler wins. They're like, no, no, we don't have an OPI in that. No, too. We've never done that. Boom. I hate this team. Can I play devil's advocate for a second? The ending was stupid. Obviously. Right. That could have gone either way. But I thought the Steelers were very, very good today. They really did. Yeah, they did. It would have been a bad buzz. I went into it. I was like, the Lions are going to score 35 because they need to win. They absolutely need to win. The Steelers are on a short week. Everything was leading towards the Steelers getting just bulldozer today. And then it's like three nothing for a while, right? And then so you look at it, the time possession was 34, 25. It seemed like 45, 15. Yeah. The Lions never had the ball. They didn't have the ball. They didn't have a second half first down until like 11 minutes left in the fourth. The Steelers ran all over them. They had Gainwell and Warren had two 45-yard touchdowns. I mean, the players were shoving fans in the face. That's always great. No, that was bad. But the Lions had 15 yards rushing. So I don't know. And again, we talked about how they went through three centers. That was bad. But that was a good performance. I don't like to compliment Rogers, but it was like nine to 10 down the stretch when it mattered. The Lions had 11 running back runs for 16 yards. Jesus. The Lions are basically done. Yeah. Dan Campbell over under 2027 for him being on the Sunday Fox pre-game show. Oh, wow. Did you go over? I'd go October. September? No, we'd have to be before the season. Before the season. Because the Terry seat will be open at some point. I'll go slightly over. Slightly over. So in the 2020s, it happens. Yeah. And it was a big Ben Johnson weekend. Like I know they're pulling rabbits out of their asses and how they're getting that done in Chicago, but Detroit definitely missed them. Again today, we could show five, six games where this was the case. Well, the bigger thing, they ran the ball down their throats. Rogers, Rogers had a good interview after the game, but he was like, we ran for over 200 yards. They ran for 230. Yeah. They passed for 251. I mean, the Lions are missing half their team at this point, which is another issue with these 18 game seasons. But yeah, no Lions. We talked about it a couple of weeks ago about how fast the window closes. The Lions, they've even really had a window. It was like slightly a jar for a year. And now, you know, they're not even going to make the playoffs. It doesn't look like. Under 10 and a half, right? Clenched. That's, they're not getting there. And then the Steelers are in the playoffs, which seemed inconceivable for three months. Yeah. And every time they won, it seemed dumb, but they, they do feel like they've stumbled into a little bit more of an identity as the year went along. Right. The identity with the run the ball. Without TJ Watt, like, is this a you in theory? Is this a little bit of a you in theory? Yeah. Well, Rogers has three throws he could make and he somehow just cycles. It's like Tecmo Bowl when we were playing Tecmo Bowl in college and that there were only four plays. And it was like two run plays and two pass plays. And you had to kind of guess which play the guy you were playing against was going to run. And if he guessed wrong, it would be like, fuck, I guess wrong again. And that's kind of like Rogers. It's like, I could do the, the other shoulder to Metcalfe throw. I could do like the quick throw to the tight end, or I can do the quick screen pass, the bubble screen. Right. These are my three Tecmo Bowl plays and you just have to guess which one I'm going to do. And those are the plays. And then there's the other stuff like the, like, he, he, he schooled, kept. Campbell, the end of the first half with the time out, like rushing to the line of scrimmage. Like he, like they were running out of time. It's like, no, Detroit should be calling time out here. He still snaps the ball when the guys that, when defense has 12 on the field, he's still like the best at that. They're there. We were texting when, when that whole, all the shenanigans at the end of the first half happened, Campbell called time out. It ends up buying the stay worse time to get a ridiculous touchdown all of a sudden it's tied at halftime. It's just, there are these plays that happen when you're watching the football games like that team can't win though. Right. You know, like somebody will take a dumb intentional grounding safety or they're just certain or somebody fumbles as they're about to go in for a touchdown. And it's like, oh, touch back that 20 or like they can't win though. It's just not, it's, they're not destined to win. And that felt like one of those moments. Who would you rather play right now, the Steelers or the Texans? Because if I asked you last week, you wouldn't be no hesitation. I thought, I think the Texans have, well, Woody Marx didn't play today. And I had Woody Marx and a couple of fantasy teams that I think he's legitimately good, but that always seems to have some sort of injury. When they don't have him, they can't run the ball at all. Chubb's like washed, sat down. Right. You had a big first down. The Raiders who haven't won and since what, mid-September, they were annihilated in the Texans run game and they're pressuring Stroud. And they stink. So in the playoffs, if they're on the road, I feel like I was a believer in their offense after last week. They look really good last week. Like that's why I wanted to start Stroud and fantasy playoffs, but they had a lot of trouble. I'd probably rather play them than the voodoo Steelers. That like just the weird shit that goes on with them. Right. Isn't that the right answer? I think so. Because I was thinking about it, you know, you have two of maybe the favorites, the Super Bowl favorites as one seat, as five seats. Sorry. I know stuff can happen in the AFC, but I think the Rams will be a five seat. I think the Bills will be a five seat. And they might be two of the three favorites to win the Super Bowl when it shakes out. Right. Even now, they're two of the three favorites. I love the Rams going to Carolina or Tampa and winning that game. We don't have to guess the line now, but, and I don't care that they lost to Carolina already. That's going to be a blowout. And I know Pittsburgh lost to Buffalo, but I don't know now. Buffalo goes to Pittsburgh. Is that a, that possibly a game now? The way Buffalo's defense is looked. Yeah. Allen got banged up again today. He's had a lot of those where he's like limping off. They show him on the sidelines. There's three people milling around him. I just feel like he's taking a lot of hits. Cook's really great though. Yeah. It was such a pleasure to have him on a, on a fantasy team. Just like lights out. It felt like every time he had the ball, it felt like he could break a 60 yarder, but they have no deep threats at all. All their, all their stuff is like 10 yards and in, and I thought the Browns did a good job against them today. Their quarterback wasn't good enough today. Yeah. Shedora would just, he, you know, they, he just could not rise to the occasion. You know how many times you got sacked? Which we saw in 10 games. How many times do you think he got sacked today? Oh, it felt like at least five. Yeah. It was two, but it always feels like five. It always feels like five or seven or something because he has to get rid of it or they threw the two interceptions and I don't know. I mean, he's lucky. He's such a good solid. They had one where it was like the, the big drive to basically go for the field, go to tie the game. Right. And in three plays it was fourth and 32 and they were like, okay. Yeah. Normally you'd go for it. I'm like, this is not a make-able down. They really do have to punt here. This is stupid with no time left. So this time one thing we did the over unders for the year, which we had pretty mediocre year this year. You had mediocre. I was sub par. I think I was like nine and 14. I think you're like 11 and 12 so far. Yeah. We're both going to be around 500. Last year I was lights out. You were good too. But we did the Steelers and I went under. Did you go under or over? I think I went slightly under. This is one that where the line was in between. I didn't make them have them making the playoffs. So I went under. I just don't understand when it's two straight decades of them just having winning records, why you talked yourself out of that. And I don't know why I did that. It's just the Rogers was so bad last year. It's like, well, this is this will be the year, but Rogers has been okay. Right. But that's the best 15 quarterbacks, but he's not one of the worst 10. He was very good today. It doesn't look like the cold weather is crushing them or the longer season. But let's be fair, the first eight games, if you would have told us, well, borough is going to be out. Lamar is going to be out. And the Browns or the Browns, they'll settle on a quarterback who won't be good by week 10. I might have gone over eight and a half or whatever it was. Yeah. Yeah. But they're solid. They're solid there every year. The weird thing with him was he looked so bad. What was it? The Chargers game where he looked like he was 55 years old. And then lately he looks good. But I was thinking maybe this is just what happens when you hit like you're about to take your mid 40s. Cause I know what's happened to me with when I play, like I played tennis a week ago. This is where I compare myself to a professional athlete. Good. But I played me and Howard Owens. We beat these two British guys. We defended America. We really like, it was like one of the best wins since the Boston Tea Party. 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No purchase necessary. Open US residents 21 plus begins on October 1st, 2025. On June 30th, 2026, multiple entry periods. See official rules at Michelobultra.com. So I should go outside for free entry, entry, deadline surprises and details. We're going to talk about the Jaguars. So they put out a nobody believes in a social media video that Kevin Wiles and I were both excerpted from all the people who didn't think the Jaguars were for real, which included me this week. I didn't think they were for real. I didn't. I wasn't buying what they were selling. I thought Lawrence was awesome today. And that was easily the best game I've ever watched from him. The crowd was crazy loud. I thought Denver's defense, especially in the first half was really flying. I thought he was as good as Drake may was in that Sunday night game, like really like pushing all the buttons. I've never seen him play like that. Did you see the same thing? Excellent. Taking off for first downs, flying horizontal to the ground, all the stuff he needed to do. And you're right. It was really loud. Like twice the whistle blew. He got like pounded. He just got destroyed from the back. Like a huge hit in the back. Yeah. They took the camera off. I wasn't expecting it. I'm like, he's going to be down for a while and he got right back up. And I almost think like he does better when he can't hear the when it's too loud. Like you play in Jacksonville and you can hear your parents making dinner plans in the crowd. Distracted by his dad's voice. Yeah, exactly. You play in Denver and yeah, first of all, they shouldn't, they probably even shouldn't use whistles because they don't work. Like, I don't know. Like maybe you blow a horn that says, what's the bono line for? Well, tonight, dad got it seven instead of you. Something other than a whistle. Sing the rest of it. No, that's enough. That's enough. But yeah, I said like, and what's weird about them is. Yeah. I'm listening. I'm just turning the air on. I'm just, I'm getting hot. I'm getting sweaty from the past. Oh, wow. Keep going. I took them over and I took them to win the division because I thought Travis Hunter would be really good because I thought Brian Thomas would be really good. Travis Hunter. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? About him in a month. And Brian Thomas has put up nothing, right? Yeah. He'll have a decent first down every now and then. But Brian, if you would have said Brian Thomas is a non-factor and Travis Hunter is not even like, you know, he's on IRs. That's such a good point. What would you put Jacksonville then? Well, the Myers trade turned out to be the best deadline trade anybody made. They already extended them. And he's like this reliable security blanket for Lawrence. But I, listen, I've watched a lot of Lawrence and we've been stuck watching him in that 6.30 a.m. Eastern time twice a year where you can really watch. And he always just seemed frenetic to me. I just, I'd given up on him. I talked about it on a pod. And I just thought we'd seen enough. How many, how many starts can somebody have where they kind of are who they are? Right. I don't know if it's a new coach. He seems more confident. Like, even like, there's like a, like a leadership aspect to him. I always thought he seemed kind of overwhelmed, especially like in a game like the atmosphere today. Yeah. I think a year ago he, he throws three picks and he throws a red zone pick. I just think he would have stunk. And he was really good. They did play like there was Bolton board material. I don't know if it was you and Wilds or if it was Sean Payton, Sean Payton, small market and Lim Cohen talks about that after the game. And it really did look like they responded to that. And I just don't want to get caught what we were with Bo Nix last week. We're like, Oh man, this guy's back. What do you throw? Four touchdowns and no, no, but here's the difference. There was a lot of evidence that Jacksonville might be good. There was a lot of advanced metric stuff from the last six weeks. They were, the line was between three, three and a half. A lot of the sharps were on the Jags. And I think people were wondering, but weren't convinced. Could this be that the second half make a jump team? Right? So now that went six straight, I think Lawrence has 16 passing TDS and two run TDS. They, their defensive line can get pressure. Yeah. Secondary is good enough. They still give up a couple of explosive plays a game. ETN has been way better and they're, they're better at using him. Like they'll run those little quick screen passes time. So there's been signs of this, but they put it all together today. Cause I thought, you know, Denver hung around in that game and the crowd was in it and they really wanted them to make a run and Jacksonville just kind of slammed the door. It's impressive. And then I thought that Sean Payton, I thought it was, every week he does something where I wonder where it's like, are we sure Sean Payton's good? Oh, you didn't like when he kicked the field goal down seven, right? You hated that? There's what 11 minutes left, but they need to go down 17. They're on the two. Yeah. Was it the two? The two or three, they're on the three. It's like you need two touchdowns. You're not going to get much closer. If you can't get it here, even if you don't get it, they're stuck on the three. They got to play out of the end zone with a lot of noise. I don't know. I'm just, that's one where I'm like, you got to go for that. Denver under 25 and a half points is my wisest wage or so. I didn't mind that at all. But yeah, you're right. It's a, but you know, in our defense, the AFC South has beaten us up over the last decade. That's why it's right. So we're thinking, all right, only one team is going to come out of it. And Daniel Jones like was leading the way. It's like, all right, we'll, we'll root for that. Cause they look unstoppable. It's like, Oh, it's not three. Now three teams are in the running as of December 21st. That's insane. But yeah, Jackson bills, everything we didn't think they'd be. Well, how about this? If Daniel Jones never gets hurt and Jacksonville is doing what they're doing, could we have had three AFC South playoff teams, two in the AFC like some, now we have eight playoff teams. I don't know who gets bounced. I guess Houston, maybe Houston doesn't make it at that point. At that point you're saying, maybe they take the Houston spot. Yeah. Cause Indianapolis was eight and one. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It would be Houston. This comeback would be too little, too late. I think. Well, I don't want to overreact. I feel like we've overreacted a few times. Yeah. Now this was a different one just cause of the crowd and the defense. And listen, Lawrence's stats are a little bigger than maybe what the actual path, like they broke two short passes that was just terrible tackling by Denver. And I was talking to our buddy Gus about it after he was a huge Rockwells fan. I was like, what happened to your team today? And he was like, we were just due. We're due for a shit game. Right. And that happens. So maybe, maybe if they play a month from now, maybe Denver is a little different. I thought RJ Harvey was actually good today. But Jacksonville, if you talk about teams that can kind of do everything, they could at least make a case like, Hey, I know for throw away the first half of the year, just look at our last six weeks, stop, stop saying, Oh, it was against the Jets. Maybe the Chargers 35 to six, which we were like, well, the Chargers lost out there. I don't think the Chargers have lost since then. No. So I don't know. Maybe we, maybe we read this one wrong. And listen, I'd still be surprised if they made it to the Super Bowl, but we can make a run here. They've won a playoff game with Lawrence. They beat the Chargers, right? And that crazy game a few years ago. So they, they can figure out how to do it. They're not going to embarrass themselves the rest of the year. They're going to make, get in maybe not as a one seed, but they'll be good. What's their record at Indy and then Tennessee. Oh, yeah. It'll be 13 and four. The thing I don't understand, I've never seen somebody so blatantly acknowledged and embraced that nobody believes in this thing. Cause usually that's like more of a fight club thing. Like it comes out after. I've never seen somebody aggressively market the game as a nobody believes in us and then back it up. Cause now I don't know if that can count as, I don't know what that, it's like different than a nobody believes in us. If they back it up. Yeah. Just like pointing out before the game that nobody believes in you. Oh, I see. It's like a different, they might've created a new thing. I've never seen it before. Joe Namath, guarantee. The victory kind of thing. But everybody thought he was crazy when he did that. Yeah. The Jags were like, here's, here's a video we've made of all of our tractors and we're going to shove it in their face and they're talking shit about Sean Peyton after. It's pretty interesting. Should we change it? We have a lot of confidence. Only shakey's believes in us. It's shaky. Cause if they get the one seed, they won't, but it's not them, but. Well, so they, they're like, I don't know. Cause if they get the one seed, they won't, but it's not them, but. Well, so they, the Pats probably aren't going to see them in round one. Right. The thing I don't like about them is the explosive plays, like going against them. Yeah. They get big, like 20, 25, 30 yard plays, which I think in the playoffs can tilt games where you feel like, oh, this, this team they're on the road. And it's like, all of a sudden they've just busted one. That's why everyone's afraid of you. They came on too. Yeah. Strange. Yeah. The Pats have that too. Although we'll see with Henderson coming back quickly on bears packers from Saturday night. Cause this is the other team that's come on like a freight train. The bears have now six wins after trailing in the final two minutes of the fourth quarter, which is the most since 1970. That's ridiculous. And for them were really ridiculous. And then Saturday night was the most ridiculous. But I think the, the they basically have to beat either at San Francisco or home Detroit and they win the division. Green Bay can only win it if they win their last two and Chicago loses their last two. So they basically, they're basically looking great for the NFC North. They had a number for plus five 50 for the one seed at this point. It's gettable. It's gettable. It was as great of a win as it was for Chicago. I thought it was a worse loss for Green Bay. Because on top of everything else, the love gets hurt. Yeah. And they've had all these other injuries too. But I don't know. Well, kudos to both teams after I called them out for not providing a decent games for what's supposed to be the greatest rivalry ever. They gave us two, maybe they gave us another one in a few weeks. But yeah, I watched with a couple of bears fans because we were between literally games and they were going nuts. And it's funny, like they get mad if you say you're full of shit. Like you could have enjoyed your team's success and still admit they're full of shit, right? Like because in your mind as a bears fan, you're not going to be shocked if they get, they lose by 17. A playoff game, are you? Based on everything we've seen from the six games. Yeah. Because the case would be like, did you know who number 20 was five weeks ago? Oh, I like that. And how many outside kicks can you name that have happened this year that have been recovered that you can remember from the 2025 season? Right. By the way, what's the answer to that? Is it two? It might just be two. Yeah, I do remember another one. Is it my dumb team it was against? It's a lot of feistyness, a lot of upset fan bases. Jaguar's fan base is mad. Bears fan base is mad. It gets crazy. Our Ringer Fantasy League, the Sean Fentanyse stormed out of the conversation today and got mad. He didn't think the punishment had been discussed at that time. Oh, hey, man. It was this whole group text that it said Sean Fentanyse has left the conversation. He just left the text. Unbelievable. I don't know who's side I'm on. Couldn't talk to him as a bit. I can't tell who's side I'm on with that. It's a long story. What is the argument? So the last place team is supposed to suffer a punishment. A punishment that you drafted. You could draft a punishment. We drafted a player. September. So you could forego your seventh round pick on a player and draft one of the 10 punishments. I drafted to get my ears pierced. I'm like, I'm not losing this league. Whatever. I'll take the hard one. You drafted to wear a jersey chosen by everyone else. Not for a three straight podcast. Exactly. Yeah. Fentanyse drafted wear a headband on a podcast, but you can never mention it. Right? So he comes in seventh, not 10th. Yeah. And his credit, I thought that it was the last place in the regular season. I, in Sean's defense, I did as well. And then they were like, no, no, no, we had this whole toy club playoffs. Communicated it. Yeah. And so now he's in the seven 10, he loses the seven 10. So now he's in the finals of the bad prize thing. I don't know. It's going to be wearing a headband talking to like Noah Bomback. Yeah. Right. Big picture. That's funny. I like that. He stormed out of the tech thread. I didn't want it to finish last because it was like somebody else gets to tweet for you for a week. That's what he wanted. But your intentions are high. You're right. The season is too long. Like fantasy means so much now and now like every single, every call, every pass an appearance call, whether it's for your team or not, the, the bets, I'm sorry, they get higher and higher as we run out of games. It's, it's rough. It's rough out there. I've only been in two so and so has left the conversation tech threads this year. Fentasy and then our cousin Jimmy. Once he hear our friend Daniel makes him so mad. He just leaves the techs conversation. Yeah. Is he back? He came back. He came back like four days later. Yeah. He's the only one I thought that was his move, but Fentasy like, I know the FCC suspended him from our tech chain. He left on his own. Wait a minute. I couldn't remember something happened. Panthers bucks, which I lost for ringer one, a seven along with, I think I went one and three. I'm just, for some reason I'm winning bets on Sundays, but we're going to seven. I'm dying. I can't really figure out, including the 13 point T's I sent into the show today. That was nice. I won with the last piece of it was lions plus five and a half. And they're lost by five. That's insane. That's insane. You win that panthers bucks. Watch the entire game. I have no idea how the Panthers won. The bucks seem like they could just move the ball and do whatever they wanted the whole game. And then they lost. It's the most aggravating three hours of my week watching this future bucks team that I have to win the NFC South that they should have, you know, they still may win. I don't get it. There was minus one 75 to win the division. Like they should have been, they should have been out of it five weeks ago, but yeah, I watched it. I'm like, why is Baker, why does he have 70 yards passing? It's just two minutes left in the third quarter, you know, and the Panthers do not know. And the Panthers do nothing. They had 275 total yards. Bryce Young like escapes a third and impossible and throws a touchdown pass and that all, that's what they seem to win all the time. That's all they need. I think the bucks are one of the five worst coach teams I watched week to week. Yeah, maybe really bad. Like when you think like Liam Cohen, like bowls was kind of 50, 50 to go last year, wasn't they? And they kept them. And Liam Cohen went to the Jags and like the, the shit today, it's tough when you keep winning the division. Yeah, to fire somebody, but well, they've lost six of seven. Right. And somehow still have a chance to win their division. They have guys like Bucky Urban will just be gone for like a half hour, you know, half of them. Then he comes back and runs for eight yards. Where was he? Wait, why were you just playing your third string running back? They have a Bucca who had 600 yards in like the first month of the season and he had a long pass in the second half today. And that was like, I forgot he was on the team. He's like, Hey, it's a Bucca. Where'd he come from? They get around the goal line. They just throw the same goal line fade to Mike Evans over and over again. They know their first down. Yeah. That's the only time they throw in first down. I wonder what they're going to do. Yeah. It's the fade to Mike Evans in the corner again. Yeah. But they just really sloppy. They just do dumb shit. And then they let Bryce move down the field on them. And like, Bryce Young is good every other week. And I wouldn't even say he's good. He's like decent, but McMillan was killing them. They never doubled them. They never tried to take him out of the game. I just thought it was very strange. If he sticks around in the fourth quarter, like Bryce Young is now he's the guy that's going to beat you. And I don't know what's with Baker. I know he had injuries like slight injuries. Don't you think he has like a real like, like some sort of torn something. This was me and I went from like the ninth best quarterback to the 39th best quarterback. I would say I'm playing through a horrific injury. I'm like, I have, I have a ruptured spleen and I had it replaced three times. He was an MVP candidate. Yeah. I'm looking at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Reddit. One of the top posts is Liam Cohen and Dave Canal is both one today. And the guy who posted it, his screen name is fire Todd Bowles. That's the third post. Another one is grizzard on the sideline calling plays. There's a Scooby-Doo post Todd's press conference after the game. This is fine. Burn it all down. Really bad. They might be, I think them and the Bengals might be the two angriest fan bases right now because the Bucks actually have talent. Yeah. Like for them not to win that division would be. And they're all back Godwin back. Evans back as you mentioned, a Boca like just on the, they play good defense. So they're at Miami and then home and then the Carolina game is where it's all at, right? At home. One thing I'll say about the Panthers, McBillon's really good. Yeah. Every game he's, you just feel him for three hours, just either going deep, making little a third and nine, you know, sideline big catches and traffic. He's, that was a really good pick. By the way, sorry, McBillon is offensive rookie of the year minus two 90. The shock master, tower shock plus four 30 and a Boca plus 1700. Those are the top three, all NFC South guys. Well, Henderson, I think could have been in the mix if you had had a good game today. He's 19, I was kind of lurking. Texans Raiders we discussed Titans chiefs. It's yet another rock bottom for the chiefs. I felt bad. It was officially a feel bad for Kelsey. Guys, a Hall of Famer, he's getting married to Taylor Swift, having a kid with her. He probably flies everywhere, private has private security where he goes and he's just kind of running around this, this fucking Titans game trying not to get hurt. It was just fake an injury. Yeah. Fake an injury and just end the thing. Vikings giants. That was sickening. So the giants, they had a red zone drive. I wrote this down the first quarter and it ended in a turnover on downs and they showed a graphic that it was the 10th time this year. They've been in the red zone and lost the ball in a turnover on downs, which is the most in this 21st century. Wow. So congratulations to them. I didn't even know that was people were keeping track of that. JJ got hurt in that game and Jackson Dart might as well be hurt because they've completely neutered him. They don't let him do anything anymore. And what's left? If he's not going to run around and be a maniac, what's left? Well, that's, I'm on a text chat with Giants fans. I'm like, Hey, you got, this is what you wanted. You wanted him not to run. So here's, here's what your non running quarterback looks like. They had 141 total yards of offense. I think he had seven yards and two rushes that he was forced to make. You know, nothing was designed. He had 33 yards passing. It was disgusting. And McCarthy goes out and they still can't win that game. Can we hear more about your text thread with Giants fans? No, that's good. Is Brad on it? He's on and off. I think he left. He left the conversation. He's stormed out. Well, we have Giants Raiders next week is going to be the Mendoza bowl. Yeah. That's it. Whoever wins that or ever loses that gets Mendoza. I think we can't pick a line for that. Right. That's just, that's an exhibition. They can't, they can't have that. We're doing it. Um, Bill's Cleveland we talked about, but we didn't mention Judkins broke his leg. Yeah. And they did the, they've done this really smartly this year to come back from commercial and they're like, we're not going to show you the replay. And I think there should be a name for this when they do that. Like it's like a verb where they're just like, uh, we're going to have to Thysman that replay. And, uh, we're just going to keep it going, but it needs to have some sort of term. So we just know. It's interesting because we're going to date ourselves here, but when blackjack mulligan will put the claw on somebody, they would put the big X. Yeah. So maybe it's, we're going to take a mulligan, even though that's a golf term, then X used to make me so bad. I know. It used to scare me. What's going on? They put the X on. Is there a murder? What happened? What's happening? It's just burning blood. Come back. There's yellow tape everywhere. Yeah. For anyone listening, go on YouTube and search for blackjack mulligan, censored claw. Yeah. You know, just be all of these clips of him and they're like, Oh, no, no, no. They're just like a giant X. Yeah. The graphics were not great back then. It was basically the family feud acts. Like, and they just borrowed that. Bengals, dolphins, Bengals rolled. We don't need to talk about that. It didn't matter except for fantasy Falcons, Cardinals. I think every single Cardinals hurt now. Yeah. Right. I think that by the end of the game, I think everyone who started this season is done. And then saints jets, Brady cook, probably not the answer. Yeah. Any other notes for today? How'd you do in the gambling? I'm trying to think. I did all right with the gambling. We can't hit our 107 picks. By the way, you fired house from the 107. Didn't fire him. Are you sure? He took a week off. Now house is. He's very upset. Very upset. He wasn't upset at all. He couldn't have been happier not to do that. You can't fire people before Christmas. You know, didn't fire him. Yeah. It's not like I did better without him. I just have the bad juju. No, my dumb, I'll say my dumb team, a 4,000 yard passer, two 1,000 yard receivers, a thousand yard rusher, and officially out of the playoffs with three games to go. Oh, two games. Oh, you're dumb team. That's it. Nice going, Jer. Good work, Shadi. No show to get in today. Not that it matters at all. That was one that I threw into a, that was a late. No, that chargers. I did the, uh, by Sunday, I was like, Oh, Quinn and Williams not playing like why? Why are the Cowboys? Going to win this was one of those. Right. But, uh, I don't, the chargers, what's their, what are their best wins this year? Just out of curiosity. Um, well, I guess the stealers Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. Right. And they beat the chiefs twice, which I don't even think counts as a best one anymore. Yeah. 11 and four. And we've probably talked about them for three minutes total. Right. And I think they're good, but they're not like, you know, they're not like, you know, they're not like, I'd be surprised if four other teams weren't better than them in the AFC playoffs, at least, right? That could make a run. The physical now Hamptons back. They can run the ball. They have a double, double attack. Yeah. Johnson got going today. Herbert seems, you know, he's up and down. Extends it. But I thought it's a funny jet stat. What is it? You've seen this 15 straight games without an interstate. Like what, without, without them getting an exception. Yeah. Like, and this is, they faced two or twice. They faced Gabriel cousins, Flacco, Shuck, Shuckleberry. And now Drake and, and, uh, and Josh Allen, like it must be nice for you to go there next week and be like, yeah, we're just not going to turn the ball over. Not nice through the air. I mean, don't get hurt game. If there's ever been one. Yeah. And then they're like, I don't know. That is a don't get hurt game. If there's ever been one that's like, please, let's just, let's just leave without an injury. Tampa is minus 1 66 to win the, to make the playoffs in Carolinas plus 1 38. And that game is in Tampa. Right. So if you think Tampa, I mean, I, at this point, I didn't even know who I'd pick. How do you pick temple and they've lost six to seven. What sign is there that they're going to turn it around? I'm not going to chase good money with bad money. I already have so much on them. Like that's disgusting that they're favored by so much. And the Colts are now minus 4,500 to miss the playoffs. So are the Lions. The Ravens are minus 1,400 on fan build and miss the playoffs. Do you think pretty high numbers rivers is better off with the extra week? We were talking about this on the pregame show or I heard it. I would listen to the entire pre, I watched the entire pregame show. You don't have to. I did. I watched the whole thing. Yeah. But they, I think the, what do you, what do you think though? What do you think now that there's tape on the second version of him? What is the tape? What did they learn? He couldn't, he couldn't move and he's old. Okay. So then he should be better than I think you should be better. Yeah. I think they're a live dog tomorrow. I like them tomorrow. Yeah. Beware everybody. At EDF, we don't just encourage you to use less electricity. We actually reward you for it. That's why when you use less during peak times on weekdays, we give you free electricity on Sundays. How you use it is up to you. EDF, change is in our power. How so to ship weekday peak usage by 40% for an up to 16 hours of free electricity per week, subject to fair usage care. All teasing series visit edfenergy.com forward slash power, hyphen tower. Do some guest alliance Christmas games. We got three. They kind of all stink. Poor Amazon. Amazon and Netflix, right? Yeah. But Amazon just has one game and it's Broncos at Chiefs. Denver, KC. Yeah. It's probably a game that they probably paid a pretty penny for thinking. Oh yeah. You know, you knew we both thought the Broncos were going to be good. The Chiefs or the Chiefs, like, oh, this could be an incredible Christmas game. Probably for the division. Yeah. Yeah. Guess what you're getting? What's the guy's name? South Dakota State. I already forgot. Old Adokan. Yeah. It's not good. It's not good, but people will watch because it's finals. It's the final week for fantasy. Football always gets nice ratings. Washington do fine. Detroit, Minnesota do well. Who was the one? I'm stealing this from somebody and I can't remember who it is. So I apologize. It's somebody else came up with this idea with Flacco. Yeah. That he should just always be available for teams in a pinch. Oh, right. He's not starting. Yeah. That he should basically be the human fab. Mm-hmm. That for the Chiefs, they could just, he's available almost like that backup quarterback commercial with Tommy DeVito and quarterback's come in. All time backup. And it should just be a pool of him and James and Russell Wilson. Mm-hmm. And they should just not be on teams and they can only sign for a week for situations like this Christmas game. I like it. Flacco. We need you for this Christmas game. It's Amazon's first Christmas game. We can't have Chris Oluwako. What a mistake. We need to recognize what he'd be. You know the fat uncle on Thanksgiving who when the kids are running around a turkey bowl, you can't run routes. So you're going to, you're going to quarterback the ball teams. Yeah. Yeah. It's like Russell, that could be Russell Wilson for the next two years. He's just not on a team. He's just available. Should that be an award with the MVP and everything else? Like every year changes. Or doesn't change. Yeah. Who else would be other than those three guys? Uh, well, I guess now it would be Phil Rivers. Yeah. He's available every year. Definitely. I wonder like, did Brady ever really think about it? Hmm. I guess cause he has that Raiders minority stake, but there was always that story that I got confirmed two years ago that he was like, if anything happened to anyone on San Francisco, he was like ready. Just made it clear like I'm working on him ready. If you end up needing me. It's so funny cause I heard that about Romo in San Francisco too. So I wonder if that's just the thing with San Francisco. I mean, Romo couldn't, his back was messed up six years ago. Like there's no way. Right. Hmm. All right. Guess the lines. Three Christmas games. Wait, what's the score in weeks? You've got to, I have to get, all right. Nine seven. This is a good one. Oh, you came back a little. Let's do it. Cowboys at Washington. I thought Washington spirited effort against the Eagles and then they just couldn't keep it going. But I think if Mariota hadn't gotten hurt, I actually think they would have covered that game and yeah, could have been a problem. You know, the bundle makes us take bad quarterbacks. He's my ringer one oh seven partner. I didn't know you could fire people. I didn't, you didn't make that clear. So I might just have to let him go, but he always makes us take bad quarterbacks and the problem with having a bad quarterback in Mariota is when he gets hurt, it is an awful quarterback. And that's, that's what the great JJ himself, Josh Johnson has done. Yeah. When he came in, that was definitely a, oh, you say, I didn't realize you were still here. They say he hadn't played in four years. Yeah. Cowboys at Washington. I'm going to say the Cowboys, it's in the tic-tac zone. I'm going to say Cowboys minus one and a half. Oh, that is not a good start though. What is it? I said six, it's five and a half. Really? Not a good start. Yeah. Why is the line so high? Is the Mariota playing? I thought it's just Josh Johnson, isn't it? Is Josh Johnson actually starting? I just thought Mariota left the game. Like he's not going to play this week. No, wasn't it like a subset? It wasn't a concussion. What was Mariota's injury? I don't know. I'm going to look this up. Probably should have been more prepared. Injury up there. He had his hand. Does the hand injure it, right? Yeah. Yeah. I thought he might play though. Well, you throw the ball with your hand. Oh, shit, I forgot. Some of the quarterbacks still do. They're going to shoot it up. They're like, dude, we can't start Josh Johnson. Yeah, maybe not. He's got to play. All right. Well, I'm off at four points. The Netflix needle is coming for you. Next one is Lions at Vikings. So the Lions, are they officially out? Or are they almost out? They have to run it and Green Bay has to lose both. I'm going to check their odds. That guy. Minus 4500. So they're as good as out. And no JJ McCarthy. He really did seem like he got hurt. Yes, he did. Yeah. Brosmer came in. I had the Vikings in a multi-team tease today that I was feeling great about. And then all of a sudden Brosmer was in, but Brosmer wasn't terrible. No, he wasn't. I think he was like, hey, I could throw an eight yard out to the best receiver in football. And he's going to go get it. I think that's kind of what he did to extend that one drive. I felt like he realized I should throw it to my own team. Right. That was one of his revelations. Lions minus two and a half over the Vikings is my guess. All right. I'm going to get this too. I said three and a half. It's five and a half. Wow. They're going big. They're going to mess. They're not screwing around with these. I like the Vikings. The Lions couldn't, they couldn't stop anything today. You have a 230 yards rushing. Is it a Brosmer thing? Did they shut JJ McCarthy down? He has some of the worst TD celebrations we've seen in a while from a QB. He had one today. He's not used to it. He's like doing like his version of the discount double check Rogers thing, but I don't. It's like he's putting a gun back in a holster or something. I don't know what he's doing. Broncos at the chiefs. I don't know who the chief's quarterback is going to be. I don't know how high to do this, but let's go nine and a half. Oh, wow. I said 10 and a half. It's 12 and a half. Merry Christmas to me. I'm getting smoked. You love it on a teaser. That's a 13 pointer for you right there. Definitely. That's a leg. Big star around that. You know, Shrager talked me out of the Titans in ringer 107. Cause my philosophy just over the years is like when like you have like the, you're out and my homes is out. Usually the team, if it's like a contender, former contender, it's usually like a crater. It's like you're just going into the center of the earth. Right. That turned out to be what happened, but we didn't take the Titans. I was thinking of actually doing for the four awful teams of giants, jets, Titans and Raiders, money lining against them, 12 games. What do you go 10 for 12, 11 for 12? That might have been the only one that wins the rest of it. Yeah. At least nine for 12. Yeah. Nine for 12. I might do it for the last eight. Saturday. Chargers at home against the Houston Texans. It's like a, it's like a shaky's preview on a Saturday at the same time, everything. Yeah. What are the potatoes? The mojo potatoes. Mojos. Yeah. They've served mojo potatoes for this one. I think I would have said one and a half yesterday, but I'm going to say two and a half today. Chargers by two and a half. You should have stayed with it. I said two and a half. It is one and a half. Oh my God. I'm a mess. This is a self one. They tic-tact it. I'm not touching this. I don't see a million things going to happen here. The only case for Houston after watching every play of that game and being tortured by a CJ strata today is that they were trying to go as vanilla as possible because they knew they needed the Chargers game. Yeah. And they just wanted to get through this game and not do anything. Sure. Packers home for the Ravens. So no idea of Lamar's playing. Well, Lamar or, um, or love, right? Right. So I'm just going to say it's a short week. Not exactly short because they played Saturday night, but did they let them back on a Saturday to Saturday? We've seen with concussions. It's usually nine to 10 days seems like, so that would mean he would miss it. I'm going to say Packers minus two and a half. You get that exactly. I said one and a half. Okay. All right. So I'm down. It's one three one right now. Uh, Sunday marquee. You think it's Bill Ziegels or Jags quotes? Um, I think it's Bill Ziegels. Okay. Even though they're both in. That's fine. I had Jags quotes, but do whatever you want. No, I think you're right. I think I wanted it to be Jags quotes because it would have been so much fun to have an AFC South Sunday marquee game in a week, 17, right after Christmas. Bill Ziegels, uh, bills. I'm going to say bills minus two and a half. I said three, it's two and a half and get it. Are the Eagles all the way back? Were you impressed with them? No, never impressed by them. I was watching with, uh, we carry my wife was, um, but you know, it's my wife, but for the audience, making Christmas cookies and having drinks yesterday with her friends. And I went over and I was like, is the Eagles game with me on? And yeah, it's going to be on. And, uh, one of our friends, their husband Robin, big Eagles fan, like wouldn't come over and I'm just texting, just come over. They, you're going to win. Just come over. He came over, but these Eagles fans are just at another level. Like they almost can't be around other people when there's an Eagles game. Right. It's really like a, like a specific kind of species. But they're just not, they're almost like, not, you know, like when they have like, people adopt wolves, you see like on Instagram, like I've adopted a wolf, it's domesticated. It's like, yeah, but it's still a wolf. Right, right, right. Like, you know, it could still go wolf at any time. That's what Eagles fans are like. Just not sure. You don't know if they're just going to flip out. Well, they're all crazy, but I think there's two kinds of crazy, right? There's the ones that want to watch alone and trust themselves, or don't trust themselves to be around others. And then there's the ones, the shirtless ones are breathing fire who want to be around everybody and just want to kick everybody's ass. And if they happen to catch a glimpse of the game along the way, then fine. So but then there's the third one. It's like, I shouldn't be around other people, but I'll come over. All right. And then they're just reigning it in, which I think is Rob. Robin did a good job. He was, he stayed in, but they were also winning. Yeah. But it's just sitting there. And it was funny because we were with another, another front of ours, Jeff, is a huge longtime Bears fan like forever. Just can't believe they have in the season where like good things are happening. Yeah. Which is fun to be around. And some is like, I just can't believe this is happening for us. Do that. Don't get mad at people like us that point out when they're down six with two minutes left, 14 out of 16 games. What's the maddest you've ever been at a Cowboys game where you're around other people? That's a good question. It's, it's been a while. I've been sad more than mad. I think, I don't know. Like, I mean, obviously I cried at the, yeah. I think the best thing I've ever seen was, it must have been 20 plus years ago when we were at Jimmy's house. What was the terrible Giants playoff loss with the guy like miss? They missed the extra point. Patrick Crane didn't run the route when Eli beat us. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. Bad happened on a kick in thing. It was a field goal. The snap was bad, but they ended up throwing it down field and it was complete, but they called it incomplete. Well, I didn't get mad at that. I got mad at that. No. Brad left. Oh yeah. Yeah. But remember he left and he didn't have a car and he was just gone and nobody knew where he went. Yeah. And he was just gone. Right. Right. Right. He didn't know how to get down the hill. I think Sarah Sullivan found him like an hour later. He was in Burbank. He was just wandering Burbank. Screaming about the giant sauce. That was one of the best ones. Yeah, that was good. All right. Bill's minus two and a half. One wrinkle with that game. There's only two late games on Sunday. Yeah, I saw that. So we have. Why is that? We have Bill's Eagles and then we have the Mendoza Bowl, Giants Vegas. Those are the only two games we have. Why can't they give us a third game? So we're going to. It's not enough for a multi-view. Yeah. That is weird. There has to be a reason. Because both the CBS have something else. I think they wanted to blow out the Eagles bills game. Yeah. All right. Well, they blew it out. All right. And now we're going to have to bet the Giants Vegas. You know, we do have though. NBA whole bill is going to point out that same day. Philadelphia. Okay. See on Sunday, the Red Hot Celtics playing Portland. Yeah. Okay. So there'll be enough. I might actually watch. That's a little, little multi-view action there. Watchables to. Jags Colts. You said this wasn't a Sunday marquee. It doesn't matter what I say. I think this has to be over three now combined. Phil Rivers combined with how well the Jags are playing. And then what the Niners line was today. So I'm going to say Jaguars by four. Oh, good. I said four and a half. It's six and a half. Oh, wow. They're not letting you have a free anything anymore. There's just jacking everything up. That's pretty high. I think because there's a chance the Colts could be good tomorrow. And then you'll feel like, all right, Colts at home. Seahawks at the Panthers. I said Seahawks minus three. Wow. I said four and it's seven and a half. I haven't been off like this all year. This is like, that's four games now. And I've been off by four points. Well, and it's not even like the favorites dominated today, right? And everybody like the Colts plus money. It's in Carolina, though. Right. Yeah. You agree with that? Is there Arnold laying seven and a half points in Carolina? And it's not even like that passes the sniff test. Yeah, no, not really, not really. This is a revenge game. I don't know what this is, but it's not even like if Tampa wins, they wouldn't have to play or anything like that. Yeah, that's strange. Is that still the land? Yeah, seven and a half. I just have no feel for this anymore. This is one of those years. I got to rally for the playoffs. Can I tell you the Rocky Bobbo? I got to go to a cab and start lifting some sleds. Start chasing some chickens or something. I know you talked about Seattle on your Friday pod, but can I tell you one thing that really like the bad, the lateral two point conversion, everybody hates it and the reps got it wrong and everything. That was awful. But the intercepted was Ernest Jones picks the ball off, but the tip of the ball hits the turf, right? I know. And he's like, come on, guys, let's go celebrate. And it really runs for 60 yards. Everyone runs for 60 yards, two plays. And so of course, then they say it's not an interception. Two plays later, Puka is wide open for a touchdown. And it's because the three hundred and twenty five pound idiot who had a run and celebrated the end of the field is like, damn, I'm wind I can't get a pass rush here. Like if you're going to run and bring your team to celebrate, make sure it's more than a 50 50 thing that you're going to get this interception. They should put the camera on the defensive line, guys, kind of like, should we should we wait? Hold on, we're just going to wait. We're going to wait two more seconds. It's like the bullpen when there's a brawl, right? Yeah. Oh, boy. We really have to. By the time we get to deep second base, the fighting is going to be over. We have to run out. Is Wilson contrarers any good? I saw that. That's not a bad. I don't know anything about the National League. He's right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Fairly watchable three Steelers Browns in Cleveland. I'm going to do the honor system and not change my picks because they've been jacked up beyond belief. I had Steelers minus six, which is probably too low. You're going to get it. I said seven and a half. It's four and a half. Oh. Could this could they blow this? Would it matter? I'm trying to think down because this is a kind of team that can maybe make Rogers uncomfortable a little bit. Well, it goes back to my analogy earlier of like just old guys playing sports. Like what happens if he just sleeps wrong on Wednesday night? It's like, ah, right. Right. Oh, man. I was watching below deck and my fucking neck got stuck. Ah, below deck. I was thinking to show here, Rogers. I was catching up on some right turn pretty and I fucking fell asleep and my pillow just. Bucks at dolphins. I mean, I don't want to watch one minute of this game. I don't want to watch the Bucks anymore. I think I'm good, but the box. I really empathize with their fan base. I'm drawn to it on the four box and it's almost all bad shit always. If you're rooting for the box and I am with this big season long bet. I wonder if this could be Andrew Kettle, it's 200 in first game. Oh, is he? Oh, he didn't retire after 200. He's going to keep going. Wow. Trooper. What's the proper anniversary number for that you'd be impressed? Like we could say like this is our how many guests the lines have we done? We've done 18. How many years? Twenty one a year for 20 years. So we could be like, this is our 400 guests the lines. Yeah, I feel like 500 is a good number. Yeah. When Collins were the 50, Collins were the ounces 500. I don't remember. I remember that good number. I don't remember his 300th or 400. Right. I feel like they kept that quiet until it got to the the golden number, whatever would be. Yeah, 500. Well, congratulations, Andrew. That's so good. I mean, you know, it's still not as impressive as Chris Myers. 132 Panthers games. Wow. That's like the fucking Joe DiMaggio. He's got a got a residency. He's like Mariah Carey, whatever stadium that is. September to December. Every year. He's in Charlotte. That's it. Set the sphere in Raleigh. He's got to be so excited. They're good. Yeah, exactly. The Panthers are eight and seven. This is amazing. I don't want to watch this game and I'm going to get the line wrong. I said minus three and a half. I hit it exactly four and a half. Hmm. Vegas zone. Why didn't I guess? Watch Miami win this easily. Just watch. H&M might be the best running back of all time and we'll never know. He's just every once in a while, he just busts like a 55 yarder. He's got no quarterback. They have no receivers. He wasn't when I was in the game. No quarterback. They have no receivers. He wasn't when I needed a Monday night against the Steelers. Like we all fell for that. Patriots at the Jets. I had this in double figures even before the line inflation for this week. I had Patriots minus 10 and a half, which is too low. You get me. No, it's nine and a half unless it changed. I said 11. Wait a minute. It changed. I'm being honest. It's 12 and a half now. I'm not screwing around. That was shady. I know. That was like the fucking passenger Ferentz calm booty. I wouldn't have done it that way if I was going to cheat. 12 and a half. Why did I go up so much? Cause the Pats have a chance to get the one seed and they need to turn the Jets on. All right. So we need a third team because Denver is going to win on the road. Patriots are going to want to win on the road. When they're up 10, I want them to take May out. Really? The giant stadium turf is terrifying. I mean, this is literally like going into an empty conjuring house when you go play there. It's like, what's the scarier state here? Maybe Cincinnati? Yeah, it's bad. It used to be Philly. I know. Philly used to be veterans way back when. Whoever you put in doesn't matter. They don't get interceptions. You're fine. True. You should play. Bring some Josh Dobbs and getting this on and then go out to a net life. Poop factor. Bengals Cardinals. Does that one qualify? The Cardinals have no healthy starters left. Yeah, I think that's zero guys that started the year. I have Bengals minus four and a half over the Cardinals. I had six and it's six and a half. Wow. I'm just awful. Come on. Get with it. The holidays coming up. I don't get the Bengals or the, I mean, there's like a dozen perplexing teams of Bengals. Are they at the top of the list? Are the Falcons still at the top? I just, Joe Burroughs doing like a walking Phoenix every time he does an interview. Like you just press conference and then. He had zero points last week. This week he had 38 fantasy points. Shut out. Then four touchdowns today. Don't understand it at all. Saints at Titans. The Saints are, I think legitimately frisky. I'm going to say Saints minus two and a half. You get this. I said one and a half. It is three. How about that? They're favored on the road. Shuck. I would have been better off starting Shuck this week. We're CJ Stroud. Shuck had like 20 points. Raiders home for the Giants and the Mendoza Bowl. They were playing hard for Pete today. They showed on the sidelines that it was like this, some turnover happened or something. And he was celebrating with players. And then he was like, oh, I'm going to be on and Landon Roberts slapped him in the ass. Like a way to go Pete and Pete kind of jumped. It's Pete's like 77. Yeah. Yeah. You can't slap Pete in the ass. I know he looks like a young guy, but he should have find that guy. This should be a sign as you have to understand. Don't touch Pete. Don't slap Pete in the ass. Yeah, they should have won. That's such a bummer that they didn't win that game. I have Raiders minus four. Ooh. Raiders minus four. I said Giants. It's in Vegas. Raiders are home. It's minus one. It's Giants minus two and a half. What? Well, the Raiders are the very worst, aren't they? I'm just kidding. It's like I've, I'm like the chiefs have completely fallen apart. It used to be a dynasty. I wouldn't get down on yourself and not get in this game. I mean, it really shouldn't even, this is, this is a Tyson exhibition fight. Like it shouldn't be on the board. Even the Giants were terrible today. They couldn't, they couldn't even throw the ball. Dart had two yards at halftime. Yeah. All right. Sunday night, 40 dinners bears. This game actually might mean something. It's in San Francisco. I have the 49ers by three. Yeah, you have it exactly. I said two. I was a little low there. I really have to get back to the drawing board with these guests lines. Yeah, I'm going to be one right up on you. It's a terrible performance. Monday night Rams at Falcons. I've Rams minus six and a half in Atlanta. That's what I said. Eight and a half's the number. Yeah. Like they've inflated the lads this week. So is there something with the holidays or what's going on? I guess so. People will be boozing it up more bets than ever. But let's, let's just focus on us here for a second. Denver, just to win. The Rams just to win and your Patriots just to win. You love that. Denver. Trying to think who I don't trust. Rams. Patriots. That's easy. Yeah. All three teams need the games. Yeah, we're good. That's good. Let that be the only thing we do. So in real life. In real life, I hit a five teamer. You talk about no one does these 13 point teasers. This is a seven point teas. Okay. All right. Philadelphia yesterday washed it up to plus 14. Barely got that. Yep. Bears plus six had no business getting that. That's fine. Jacksonville plus 10 and a half. And then Ravens plus four was pushed. Oh, so it ended up winning two to one instead of like three and a half to one. But the Ravens pushed on the plus four. The Ravens. Very exciting. One of the dumbest bets I've made all year. Yeah. It was when the, but when the Ravens were minus three. When would they minus four? I guess it went to the, yeah. When you're all the way up. Yeah. All right. Good. You're getting good at these. I don't know how many more weeks are going to let us win these, but. 14 to one Parley, Buffalo money, Minnesota money, Tennessee plus 155 chargers money, Tampa money lost scumbags. I could have just bet all of them individually. Just, just every touchdown was a field goal. Just jerks. Nonsense team jerks. Innovation is moving fast across every industry with AWS AI from formula one insights. To smarter power grids and personalized learning. AWS AI is how leaders stay ahead. Anything else before we get to parent corner? That's it for the holidays. What's going to happen? We didn't, we didn't talk about the, the Joshua Paul, right? Oh, let's talk about that. Yeah. I had a good time. I enjoyed it. That was good. Oh, you went? What do you mean? No, I had a good time watching. Okay. Oh, God. Good time. I was pretty riveted for the entire fight. Well, but Warren, I mean, I was like, I was getting very upset with the state of the world when we bet Joshua pretty big for us to win by knockout, right? I could tell people that. And, you know, when he was, I think we weren't alone on betting the minus three 80 knockout. Yeah. It's, and like, he was hanging with him. My gosh, he's going to carry him for eight rounds. And this is what sucks about betting and it sucks about boxing. And, and we were sure he was going to knock him out. And then he walloped them in the fifth and to Jake Paul's credit, like, he was over 15 and take down attempts, but he was, he was knocked down behind Marab. Yeah. Marab and trouble. He was knocked down four times. He didn't have to get up the first three. He was done for. So I also thought he landed a legitimate right. I did. Yeah. And I think that like he can take that as he's recovering from his shattered jaw for the next six months. He could at least be like, I landed a right in that dude. But Joshua, this is the problem with normal people, no matter how long they train, stepping in with somebody like that is they actually connect with a flush, right? We're watching on Instagram boxing best knockouts ever. And it's like, the Rand takes that from her and his jaw doesn't shatter. And he's fighting again in three months. And he takes that and his tip go into his, basically his tongue. Yeah. He's got a balloon head now for weeks. But I do, he is a tough bastard for hanging in there. And it was impressive. Impressive. And he got 92 million and I got 92 million laughs watching him get busted up. So that was good. Is that how much he got? They said he, they both got around 92 million. That's what I saw. What? I know. This is the same. Why? What's that? It seems high. That seems like a high number. I don't know. I don't know why it was reported. It seems pretty exact though. 92. Well, it seems more believable than if they had said 90. Yeah, I guess so. 92 is like, yeah, you got 92 million. 92.7. Well, so does he fight again? That was it. He cashed in because people are like, why is he doing this? And he's like, he's doing this because he's cashing in. He's making an incredible amount of money. I think it'll be smarter about it. Line up three more YouTubers and then fight someone who he could maybe beat. Who's 44 or something. This sets up fury Joshua in England would write my guess. Yeah. That'll be the next one. That'll be good. But then we have there's wrestling in January. There's big card. Oh yeah. Big, big, what is it? Royal rumble. Did you see Shalamet on Cody Rhodes? No, what did he do? Shalamet went on the Cody Rhodes podcast as a guest and was like a legitimate wrestling fan. Really? Like legitimate. Just made me wonder. It just got my interest as he's in Oscar promotion time. Just run him in with the masked man. Do we see him run in with a mask on? Everyone thinks it's Seth Rollins. Oh my God, it's Timothy Shalamet. By the supremacist here. He's sitting people with like a ping pong paddle. I like it. That'd be good promotion. It's Bob Dylan from the dead. Who would you want him feuding with, Dom? Oh, that's a good one. Dominic. Yeah. Shalamet is a pretty skinny dude. Like he's he probably weighs like one fifty five. He gets tossed around. Could he play a heel though? He really hasn't. Maybe he's a manager. He does like the Cyndi Lauper thing. Right. Attaches himself to somebody. Start him off like that. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a good move. That's the kind of stuff he should be doing to try to win an Oscar. Definitely. Coming into the Royal Rumble. I think that's the kind of creditability you need. Fight Jake Paul maybe? For 95 million? So you think Jake Paul fights again? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, why not? There's another 30 million somewhere for him. I don't want to get punched in the face. He did look bad, man. I can't believe those pictures. I mean, I really now with AI, you don't trust anything, but there are some crazy hospital pictures circulating. I don't think those are real. Oh, really? Because I saw one of those too and I was like, but yeah, I don't know if that's real. All right. Parent corner? Let's do it. So I told you, I meant to send this to you before, but so when I watch games during the day, like Archie's on Sunday, like Archie's home now, my oldest will come by the studio and it's right after the pregame show. And I just like veg out and watch and we order food. My middle guy, Jack, the youngest one had a baseball tournament, so I wasn't around for that. But Jack goes to a bar with strangers. I told you the Steelers bar, right? Yeah. A local Steelers bar. And now he's like friends with like people my age. Like, and it was just weird to me that like he's like now he's ditched me, but is hanging with people my age. Like it's one thing if he has a girlfriend, right? Right. His friends his age, but he's hanging and he's like posting pictures of it and like posting reels and stuff and they're singing songs. I'm like, he likes these strangers better than me. Someone bought him a Christmas gift. It was like a Steelers mug. And I'm like, what the hell? What is going on here? So I guess I just need a little therapy to be okay with this, but his new friends are not of his age, but of kind of of my age and they're, they're complete strangers. That's it. I don't know. Like, and then I'm like, you know, like, you know, all right. So do you feel you have to do a background check of everybody? I feel like I do. And then I'm, and then the other thing is this is being selfish, but the day after Christmas, December 26th, Friday, I have to take him to weigh in for his wrestling tournament in Upland, California, which is I think 90 minutes away weigh-ins are 7am. There are no buses. The team doesn't have a bus. I have to bring them. Like, so we have to wake up at 530 a day after Christmas to get the weigh-in. Oh my God. And I'm like, why don't you middle-aged Steelers pals drive you buddy? Yeah. Get one of those guys. Yeah, exactly. You show up in a Cam Hayward jersey. Yeah. Get the Cam Hayward, get the Sprinter van and he takes you. I don't know. I got to get over it. I just think it's a little weird. I'll send you the, I'll send you the video. I don't have a parent corner this week. It's been a good week for the fam because just my kids are home and my daughter's home for the holidays, Christmas is during the week. I've turned into like the lightning rod of the family. They just, they call me the shitster and the potster. What is it? Why? It kind of teams up on me. I don't know. Like they always like, oh, you started this because you brought up whatever. So they all team up. I think they all like having like a three on one against me. Oh, well that's a parent corner. But it's good that the family dynamic back. It really is. Yeah. Well, it's weird because I mean your family is the same way, right? Like we just make sarcastic comments. That's what we do. That's like how we grew up. But now you have this generation of the under 25s where like every sarcastic comment needs to be like, addressed. Yeah. Addressed. Why'd you say that? You're trying to start something with me and I'm like, I'm just doing what I always do. But yeah, it just seems like I'm getting tagged teamed up a lot, which I'm fine with. Do they threaten to leave you and go watch football with like middle-aged men that they don't know? No, they haven't that day. Oh, that's coming. Yeah. But it's a lot of like, we're just going to go out and get food. You won't come because there's basketball on. I got it. I'm trying to figure out my footing, my footing in the house. Do you find while we're talking about footing in the house, I recognize less and less or fewer and fewer Christmas cards. Like, I might have talked about this last week. I might have talked about this last year, but I'm at like 40% of people. I'll open it up. That would be a good thing to keep track of. I'm like, who is this? And sometimes my wife, Melissa's like, you know them. We met them at that party and three years ago and they have the son who plays the tuba. Like, I don't know. I like, no, but then there are some people who nobody knows. Like, I feel like people are getting my address and just sending stuff. You must have a few of those. Mike, do you look at the cards? We definitely do. Yeah. Yeah. Well, my wife has that third hole because she plays tennis six times a week and there's all these people from the club that I have no idea who they are. Right. And I'm, I think she barely does either. Yeah. And then those people send the cards. Like we've been divorced and I, she let me back in the house after five years and I'm looking at these cards and I'm like, Oh, we'll, who all these new friends except I, we're not divorced and I've lived here. I did have another parent corner topic. I haven't gone through all the stages of when you have kids like in nursery school, pre-K, elementary school, and then, you know, junior high, high school and the, the kind of parent dynamic, having people that I'm friends with or that I work with, like people like Fentasy and Jeff Chow who have little kids or smaller kids. Right. And they're now going into it, like in the elementary part, listening to them talk about the parents and how, who, how you become friends with the people your wife made friends with because they had a play date and it's like, you would love her husband and then you have to go in these dates, these double dates with these guys you never met. It's always easier for the girls to get along than, than the guys. And it's funny being like the Mr. Miyagi for these situations where it's like, just, just find out who likes sports and just go, go that way. Exactly. That's it. Right. And in these situations, it's like, please God let this person like sports. Yeah. Just tell them. Just like, yeah. Three kinds of Eagles fans. Well, that could go the other way. That could go the other way too. Cause if there are no at all about sports and, and you know, Oh, that could get, yeah, that could get ugly. I don't want to seem like pompous, but it's like, I don't want to talk to you. I want to talk to Simmons about this and my son. The worst part is though, like, oh, the NFL playoffs run this week. You get those guys. Oh, this kid is games on Saturday. Yeah. I don't really follow sports. Like, all right. There's, that could be a lot to work with here. I feel like we lucked out with our elementary school parent friends though. Yeah. Like we had like a good crew. I don't think that is always the case for people. Right. When you get stuck in the, in the play date circle of friends when people start getting together. But anyways, it was fun to be older than that, watching other people go through it. Yeah. You know, it was like, oh yeah, I remember those days. I feel like so relieved that somebody knew like there was a lot of fun. I feel like so relieved that somebody knew like there was two wild card games that night. Right. Right. Like, oh, this guy, I like this guy. Or they, somebody mentions they have his up early watching primarily. It comes like, oh, this might be a good one. Yeah. Right. Until your wife pulls you aside. It's like, he cheats on his wife. Don't talk to him. So yeah. He slept with the third grade teacher. Right. He's the only one I like here. I don't care what he slept with. Oh my God. Can you imagine having a, having Daniel and your parent group? Why did you make that leap from what I said? This guy and I, his name is Daniel. He bet $2,500 on the Red Sox to win the World Series in December. He brought lemon shots to the PTA meeting. You got to meet him. Oh God. All right. That's it for parent corner. Anything else? No, we're on a happy holidays. Happy holidays. All that, but you're going to say what we're going to be on Thursday? Oh, we're popping on the Netflix pregame show. We're shooting a little, a little short segment for them. That's going to be fun. And then what are you doing for being your gambling? Tuesday, Wednesday with Tuesday. Just Tuesday with Tate. And then with you on Thursday on Netflix. I have to lose weight before Thursday. I want to look, I want to look really good for that. I'm going to go run now. I'm going to go run to that Steelers bar downtown. How about our ringer? What are seven picks going to be when we're making them on Tuesday for the Sunday game? Oh Jesus. I'm going to be in juice. So bad. We could have had one of the five shows do well. It doesn't. I'll say this because the super contest, which we're trying to copy because they copied us, right? We fueled that one. If you look at that, the medium score or the mean score is also bad. So we just, it's rotten. Like 29 teams have given up. It's not our fault. Well, you told, did we talk about this last week? The ZFL, the thing we do with Gus every week. Oh yeah. No, what, what was it? The ZFL, the pixley. He's had since like 1990. He said, this is by far the worst picks records. Right. So we're going to be in the middle of the week. We're going to be in the middle of the week. This is by far the worst picks records we've ever had across the board. It's the worst. So I don't really know the reasons for it other than I feel like it's like 2008. That was the last really weird football year that ended up being Steelers Cardinals and the Super Bowl. Right. The year Brady blew out his ACL. It's the whole bunch of weird shit happened. It was really hard to figure out all year what was happening. Maybe that's what this year is. Like, I mean, if we have the bears are going to be the one seed. No, it's not. It's the bear for most comeback wins in the last two minutes of a game. Obviously, this is a weird year. Mahomes blows out his ACL. Drake may becomes an elite quarterback out of nowhere. Trevor Lawrence figures it out in year six. Maybe it's just one of those years. Right. And Mahomes was losing every one score game before that. Right. Right. Who knows? All right. I'll see you on Netflix. Yeah. Good job by you, Sal. Good job by you, buddy. Thanks to Gahao and Eduardo as well. And I'm going to be back with another podcast on Tuesday. And we have a big rewatchables coming on Monday too. So stay tuned for that big, big movie that came out this decade. Really? Yeah. I'm not even going to say what it is, but it's a last movie we're doing this year. 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