Summary
Jim Cornette reviews the TNA Impact debut on AMC, delivering a scathing critique of the show's production, booking, and overall presentation. He also reviews AEW Dynamite, comparing the two promotions and ultimately apologizing to AEW for previously calling it the worst wrestling show, as TNA proved far worse.
Insights
- TNA's AMC debut suffered from over-production and confusion rather than clarity, with unnecessary drone shots of empty parking lots, poor camera angles, and too many opening segments that failed to establish new talent for unfamiliar viewers
- Modern wrestling across all promotions suffers from derivative WWE-style presentation, commentary, and booking philosophy, creating an industry-wide infection of the same format regardless of budget or company
- Powerhouse Hobbs' departure to WWE represents a significant loss for AEW due to five years of mismanagement and inconsistent booking, while his signing of younger talent like the Rascals and Mystico DeRotta may not adequately replace that lost potential
- The proliferation of meaningless titles (trios championships, multiple tag divisions) and constant interference/run-ins in AEW has diluted match quality and fan investment, particularly in tag team wrestling
- Bandido's inability to work a credible American-style professional wrestling match forces his opponents to accommodate his lucha style, limiting psychology and making matches feel choreographed rather than competitive
Trends
Decline of territorial wrestling psychology in favor of high-spot-driven, choreographed matches across all major promotionsOver-reliance on comedy segments and gimmicks in women's wrestling divisions without corresponding booking credibilityTalent acquisition strategy of signing multiple similar-looking wrestlers rather than developing distinct character identitiesProduction quality inversely correlated with creative direction—better-looking shows (TNA on AMC) paired with worse storytellingHeel vs. heel and face vs. face feuds dominating main event pictures, reducing logical championship contention narrativesExcessive use of manager/valet characters as comedy relief rather than meaningful story devicesYounger talent trained exclusively in indie/modern style lacking fundamentals of American professional wrestling psychologyNetwork debuts and major announcements treated as ratings opportunities rather than long-term audience buildingNostalgia booking (Dixie Carter, returning veterans) used to generate short-term reactions without narrative purposeProliferation of multi-person matches and stipulations to mask weak individual talent or booking direction
Topics
TNA Impact AMC Network Debut Production QualityProfessional Wrestling Commentary Standards and CredibilityPowerhouse Hobbs Free Agency and WWE NXT DevelopmentAEW Tag Team Division Booking and Title DevaluationLucha Libre vs. American Wrestling Style IntegrationWomen's Wrestling Segment Overutilization in TV ProgrammingHeel vs. Heel Feuding and Championship LogicWrestling Manager/Valet Character DevelopmentTalent Acquisition Strategy and Roster DepthTelevision Production Techniques for Wrestling VenuesReferee Positioning and Match Finish CredibilityCharacter Motivation and Gimmick EstablishmentBandido's Single Star Potential and LimitationsMJF Championship Defense Booking and Heat GenerationJonathan Cruz Manager Angle Execution
Companies
TNA Impact Wrestling
Primary focus of episode; Jim Cornette reviews their AMC network debut show, criticizing production, booking, and ove...
AEW (All Elite Wrestling)
Reviewed Dynamite episode; Cornette apologizes for calling it worst wrestling show after comparing it favorably to TN...
WWE
Referenced as destination for Powerhouse Hobbs and comparison point for wrestling style, commentary, and production s...
NXT
Discussed as developmental territory where Powerhouse Hobbs will likely be sent to learn WWE-style wrestling and char...
CMLL
Mexican wrestling promotion; AEW signed joint-deal talent including Mystico DeRotta and Hechicero from CMLL roster
AMC (American Movie Classics)
New television home for TNA Impact Wrestling; network debut show was primary focus of critical review
Ring of Honor
Referenced as wrestling promotion with similar production and booking issues as other major wrestling companies
People
Jim Cornette
Host providing detailed critique of TNA Impact AMC debut and AEW Dynamite episodes
Brian
Co-host engaging in discussion and providing commentary on wrestling shows reviewed
Powerhouse Hobbs
AEW talent whose contract expiration and move to WWE is discussed as significant roster loss due to five years of mis...
AJ Styles
Appeared in TNA AMC debut opening segment; discussed as original face of TNA during company's better period
Jeff Hardy
Participated in six-man tag match on TNA AMC debut; criticized for dangerous bumps and lack of credible selling
Matt Hardy
Teamed with Jeff Hardy in six-man tag match on TNA AMC debut episode
Dixie Carter
Appeared in TNA AMC debut to receive boos from crowd; criticized as stumbling block to company's historical development
Carlos Silva
Current TNA leadership criticized for show direction and production choices on AMC debut
Santino Marella
Appeared as director of authority on TNA AMC debut; criticized for comedy gimmick undermining show credibility
Sonya Deville
Signed to TNA; appeared as Santino's assistant on AMC debut before turning heel
Bandido
Faced MJF for AEW World Championship on Dynamite; criticized for inability to work credible American-style wrestling ...
MJF
Defended AEW World Championship against Bandido on Dynamite; praised for attempting to carry match psychology
Darby Allin
Opened AEW Dynamite with dangerous bumps and match against PAC; criticized for reckless wrestling style
PAC
Faced Darby Allin in opening match of AEW Dynamite; took dangerous bumps on steel stairs
Kenny Omega
Returned to AEW Dynamite; announced for upcoming championship match against Josh Alexander
Adam Page
Faced Brian Keith on Dynamite; holds AEW Trios Championship; discussed as main event baby face
Mystico DeRotta
24-year-old signed to AEW on joint deal with CMLL; discussed as top young talent WWE was pursuing
Santana
Faced Frankie Kazarian for TNA World Championship on AMC debut; criticized for botched finish
Frankie Kazarian
Won TNA World Championship from Santana on AMC debut; praised for professional in-ring work
TJ Sibula
Auto worker who confronted Trump at Ford plant; received $800,000+ in GoFundMe donations with Cornette's $5,000 contr...
Quotes
"TNA is a horrible wrestling show. And again, I don't want to spoil the review and I have not heard what you're going to say. I'm imagining in my head what you're going to say, but for all the fans, like you got to give it a chance or you watched it one week. No, it's the tone of the show."
Jim Cornette•Early in episode
"I have to make a public apology to A.E.W. as an entity and as a television show. I said that A.E.W. was the worst television wrestling show with a budget on the air in the world. And I take that back. This has a budget of some description. And it made me want to see some A.E.W."
Jim Cornette•After TNA review
"It's an industry-wide issue where everything just feels like some weird derivative of WWE style wrestling television."
Jim Cornette•Opening discussion
"They don't learn anything in AEW. And what that's the problem is now he's going to have to go to NXT because I'm not talking of a hasn't learned how to do a power slam or whatever the fuck. I've said they don't learn how to put matches together."
Jim Cornette•Powerhouse Hobbs discussion
"Wrestling can have crazy characters. It doesn't have to be over the top, silly in a way that entertains Vince McMahon. And it feels like across the board, it is still that."
Brian•TNA critique section
Full Transcript
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A lot of people looking forward to hearing what you're going to have to say about this week's big wrestling shows, a big debut on a new network, and more of the same on the same network. What's going on? Well, there has been some good news, but none of that is it. But I'll tell you what, I'm surprised I'm still speaking to you, speaking to you. After what you put me through. That sounds like a country song. I'm surprised I'm still speaking to you after what you put me through because you made me watch that rotten show. We're going to talk. Go ahead. Defend yourself. I'm not defending myself. We'll get there. Everything I do is in the name of the listeners. Let me just remind you of that. It's for them that I do what I do. I don't know if there was a lot of popular demand for me to do what I did, but go ahead. I don't want to say too much here because we're going to review it later, but often whenever I talk about NXT or TNA, their fans jump on me like I just said, mid-south 84 sucks. They jump on me for every critique and I have fun with it because, you know, I like to have fun on here on the show, but to be very, very serious. TNA is a horrible wrestling show. And again, I don't want to spoil the review and I have not heard what you're going to say. I'm imagining in my head what you're going to say, but for all the fans, like you got to give it a chance or you watched it one week. No, it's the tone of the show. And by the way, it's not a TNA issue. It's an industry-wide issue where everything just feels like some weird derivative of WWE style wrestling television. Derivatives. I like that description and it's a very derisive derivative. But with that, without I'm not here. Let's just say when we get to where we talk about TNA, you're going to hear what smaller groups would have heard in post production meetings from Jim Cornette on, I don't mean smaller groups. I mean, smaller groups than the millions of people we're talking to. It was the midgets, folks. No, I'm not talking about small size. I mean, if I was somewhere that was doing a television production, we had a post production meeting based on examining the fucking program today on this program, you will hear what I would have said in that fucking meeting and or potentially the flavor of the notes I used to send to people like Terry Taylor, my old friend in TNA wrestling. So, we'll talk about that. But the good news, Brian, of the whole Dagum week, we have a patriot out there. My new hero, a good old American Ford auto worker named TJ Sibula, not to be confused with old cat Sibula's for Mid-South wrestling. And I know I don't know what descent the name Sibula is from. The picture of him looked like a average Caucasian fellow from Michigan. But he is the one who made I've made even worldwide. I know it's early. It was national news here when our dear leader took his orange blabby ass through the Ford Motor Plant on one of his ceremonial walkthroughs where he's confused and doesn't know what he's looking at. And TJ Sibula is the guy who screamed, you're a pedophile protector. And people got it on video, but Trump heard him and looked down and apparently the the lip readers and or our witnesses in the audience said he said, fuck you to the guy twice and gave him the finger to go to old TJ. And this video went everywhere and blah, blah, blah. And the course, then the follow up is that before he was suspended from his job. But to follow up to that is the United Auto Workers are standing by his American right to free speech and nobody better fire old TJ Sibula. And everybody's up in arms about it in the in the various camps, either pro or con. Pro TJ or convicted offenders of various kinds. And now the bottom line is is that TJ Sibula, when people started to go fund me for him has made like 800,000 something dollars. Holy shit. Because they had they had to fund fund me or two entities funding this thing. And the total of was over $800,000 but I am proud to say also and this did this actually made like the Michigan automotive news, not a wrestling site but reporting on the goddamn poor auto worker that I was the top donor, along with one anonymous guy and Stacy and I gave $5,000. Our name is on there. It's funny. There were a few articles going around and again, there were several from Michigan specifically. And a few of them had a image of you. One of them had an image of you and an image of Donald Trump on the other side. One of them just had an image of a stack of money, which I think is the funniest and the laziest of the options. But I have I have heard from auto workers now say thank you for supporting our, you know, brother or whatever. But that's the here's the thing is that yes, of course, and what he said and I oh my God, I can't. I don't have the exact quote in front of me but the press asked TJ Sibula for comment. And he said sometimes a paraphrasing is sometimes fate puts you in a position and you have to rise up to meet a moment and I did and I wouldn't take it back but I am worried about my, you know, my jobs as they're making a big, but I don't this was before total of the go for how long, even though they do a valuable service, how long would it take a Ford auto worker to earn eight or something thousand dollars. Oh, I don't know they say Henry Ford keeps all the money for himself. I'm not really sure how it works. Well, he said that's the point of Ford had egg on their face not Henry himself but them as an entity, because that's the thing. It got to him. And that's what everybody was saying this that remark got to him enough that he the president supposedly in the United States, gives the finger to and says fuck you to afford auto worker no matter what he said they said Obama's been through the Ford plan people said some raw things at his direction also and he didn't sell it because he was Obama instead of man baby. He got to him and that specific remark got to him and so that's why I was saying you know I'm just saying, if that got to him. Then you know all the stress that you can add to a senior citizen like that not good at all not good at all for a person that old to be stressed but the point being, I mean, probably the reason why when I got up and I saw that news is that I got a check for $5,000 waiting on this guy and then everybody sent me to go fund me okay. I said a couple months ago back before people were being gassed and shot in the streets and all that so when the news was just that Trump was calling reporters piggies or fake or fraud or whatever the fuck insulting the reporters and trying to make sense out of his drivel and call him to some of his account. I said I would pay $50,000 to the first reporter that on tape on camera in front of the public that could be replayed would just say, you know what no fuck you. You are the fake you're the fraud you're the pig you're the con man whatever the fuck you're calling us fuck you I'm I'm quit cover your own fucking self and just walk off from me right. And you said that well $50,000 wouldn't make up for them losing their their job or whatever. Now we know that the whoever does that will be a multi fucking millionaire probably more money than you and I have ever dreamed of having. But, and people and remember people scoffed at me when I said that you know I was goddamn serious and man still am open to contributing. I know that I know I wouldn't be alone. I would still contribute heavily to the go fund me. But you were on the phone when I asked even P knew if that's legal for me to offer that technically. I don't know if it would do as good. I think more people would support the average person like the auto worker than the news reporter who said something. Well, but they would have to they would have to then quit and not just sit there and then be brow beaten by the fucking felt face piece of shit again. What exactly happened because you you were telling it but I actually don't know what the update is. Did he lose his job or did he not because you said the unions protecting him. And no that's the thing is they suspended it. And now the union put out a statement that they are supporting their union members right to free speech and whatever and you know blah blah blah so that no I don't think they can fire him at this point with the attention on it. But here's again I wanted to see what to go by he's got $800,000. And 2026 $800,000 is not going to last you forever. Well God damn it the same point if you're smart to be taxed isn't it. Oh for heaven's sake you like to take the piss out of everything. But the point is even though it wasn't what I asked for specifically it wasn't as direct and it wasn't as face to face and it wasn't a conversation could be videotaped in a clear fashion broadcast and blah blah blah. The spirit was there and that's why I put my money where my mouth was because if I'd give a reporter 50 grand to do it and quit walk off the job face to face 10 feet away from him certainly I could at least give the guy that yelled at him from as close as he could get 5 grand. And that's what I did. If he'd gotten more money from you if he yelled fuck you or hey fatso or just anything like that was more of a what is there anything he could have done there that would have gotten more money out of you money bags. No, because apparently because I mean it's not like people don't yell something at this fat obnoxious fuck everywhere he goes. The pedophile protector got to him and of it got the response out of Trump. It got under his skin. That was worth five grand to me just to vicariously living through DJ Sibula. It would be funny if people just started mooning him. You haven't seen a good run of moons in a while just every time Trump walked by people show. Hey I got news for you as much as I might be in favor of that I don't trust him to turn my back. So we might have to expose some other fucking part of the goddamn anatomy but here but anyway here's the so that's that's that but point is I don't just say shit to say shit. If I say something I'm going to do something about it and I've got an email. I'm trying to find it. Well what we talked about the other day going on in Minnesota. And this was a little levity from Michigan in the middle of all of that but from Chris. I won't give his last name people be knocking on his door. Dear Jim thank you for addressing the horrific situation in Minnesota caused by ISIS brutality. The more people around the country and the world who know the truth the better are our odds of stopping this. It's hard enough for adults to endure this but I teach in a suburb south of Minneapolis and I see much fear ISIS creating in our student body. These kids are suffering so terribly please don't stop addressing what ice and Trump are doing we need all the help that we can get to regain some sense of sanity in Minnesota. So you know here's the thing. It was a seven or eight years ago. When when when did I stop talking to Bruce Prichard because he lied to me just for no apparent reason whatsoever about 2017 ish. 2016 2017 right. You remember that period of time. I mean you lied because he's a liar. Well there was not a reason never we're not going to go down that road but the point is before that right before that when he was still speaking to me said why do you talk about politics on your show. You're going to divide the audience you're going to run somebody basically you're going to run somebody off. And as I talk about politics like we talk about wrestling we talk about rock and roll we talk about comic books and we talk about fucking goofy news stories and we talk about all the goddamn other drivel it goes on in the world because that's what I like to talk about. But but you'll you'll run people up and I don't want them. But here's the thing there are some people that want a mealy mouthed podcast where nobody tells the truth because they either want a job still or have a job where they are not allowed to talk about. Don't you dare be saying anything like these things or whatever. Or do you want one of the shows where some of these I guess these. What do they call them the influencer nitwits and then the the right wing pundits or whatever the fuck where they just blur shit out their ass or the Alex Jones is just blur lying bullshit out their ass anytime they want just to killing puppies I'm in flavor of it. To stir people up so they get their the clicks or listens whether they mean it or not. I've always maintained and apparently it's worked out because people listen to our show and have for a long time and are now in bigger numbers. I'm not going to. We have fun talking about bullshit. But I'm not going to bullshit anybody about the way I feel about shit, which is kind of part of the other Jim Cornette experience. Would you concur with that Brian that this is kind of when you know Jim Cornette this is part of the experience. Yeah, I guess I'd say that. So point being, that's why I talk about these things when I get pissed off about them whether it's guys car landed on my fence or people being shot to fucking face. When I get pissed off I talk about shit and they would it's wrestling I critique shit and what it's other stuff I give my opinion on shit. But I get further people, people out there the cult of Cornette because if you look at just any of these, the tweets or any of the videos or any of the comments on YouTube or the email we get whatever the fuck. It's just like everything else today it's like half the people. Everybody listens to or looks at the same thing. And then half the people say, Oh God, thank you for saying this I love you. I wish somebody else would say I've said this and I can say that blah blah blah and the other people are going, you motherfucker I like that chug you stupid imbecile about the same thing. That doesn't change the way that I feel about it, because I do not change my opinions of what is right and wrong. Based on what makes most people happier what makes most people listen, or what makes most people click. Sorry. I'm not, I think I don't know that this is hyperbolic to say I'm not a traditional internet personality. I think you say that's a fair statement. Yeah, that's a fair statement. Okay, so for those of you who love me and I'm a genius and wrestling and we're on the right side of history I love you too. For those of you who don't they fall into a couple of categories the people who don't love me. I have just I have eviscerated verbally their favorite goofy pretend cartoon wrestlers for years and they just, oh God we hate him he's a horrible, the most awful person in the world. I hope you muster the same indignation. I said that so and so ought to be boiled and oil and have his fat sold for soap I hope your heads are on fire just as much when people are being shot in the face on the street and babies are being tear gas. That's what I say to that segment that don't like me. For the people who say well, we love Jim's wrestling genius oh my God he can tell you what Jim London said for lunch on June 7, 1937 and he's an. He's this guy's just brilliant to this performances and he's we've always been a fan of his but politics. He's a complete imbecile. Because they ain't your politics pal. I'm saying you're admitting that well, this guy over here is brilliant and articulate and knows all this shit but I want to get my political advice from a complete fucking moron. So whether again, whether people like it or not I'm going to change not change my opinion of right or wrong. I'm not going to be anybody happy on the Internet. If you are at the segment of our population that legitimately believes that just because people do not have the proper permit to provide somewhere. I think that they should be have the shit kicked out of them drug down the street shot at tear gas beat up and thrown out of the goddamn country. From their job at Target or the family Mexican restaurant. There's something wrong with you. And you're part of the reason why the American society has been poisoned. And if you take it further. And you take that hatred of people that you have never met as just as a race as a whole that exists here in the country that it is so pertinent to our national security that you believe the drivel that there's 10s of millions these people that are murderers and rapists and cannibals. And again sex pass that they all need to be forcefully removed that you eat. If you're in fucking Wyoming or South Florida, or the corner of Nevada. And you are so mad at these people in Minnesota. Then you will never see that you will never interact with that it's okay not only the people treat them that way and round all them up but if they're friends and neighbors. United States citizens getting the way said don't fucking do this to our goddamn friends and neighbors in our community. We don't want this. It's okay to shoot and gas and fucking beat the shit out of them. There's nothing wrong with you. I just want to make that clear. If regardless of what the situation is the vast majority of these people have no violent criminal offenses. They are not mass murderers and right you know yes there's some immigrant murderers. If for every immigrant murderer I can show you a white guy from Mississippi and did the same fucking thing. Because if you haven't noticed human beings a lot of them are fucked up everywhere. But you can't just fucking say well okay. If you don't have a fishing license. I'm gonna throw a rope around you and drag you down the street and throw you in the goddamn river. The fuck. There was no tear gas. In Minneapolis until Trump decided to make a performative attempt to appeal to the coarsest basest low life as part of his base. To distract from all the other shit that he's involved in and to get even with the people that didn't vote for him and the governors and the mayors that don't like him. So they're not interfering with law enforcement. When there's a bunch of fucking. Average people in Minnesota in Minneapolis blowing whistles and honking their horns and playing drums outside these people's hotel. Till all we hours of the morning. They're not. Paid protesters you know that Carolyn Levitt I just like say she's a douchebag. And that she can stand up there and say well there. Paid protesters and outside agitator says she'd get along with bull Connor and Birmingham in 1964 Google it kids history is repeating itself. She lies and people believe the most basic on the face bullshit of it because they want to. Because they want this to happen because there's something wrong with them. That they believe this is justified. So don't try to get me to smell bullshit and think it's goddamn. I'm sorry. Angle happen and the more people speak out and tell this motherfucker in particular. And all those fuckers in general what's wrong with them. They've got my support. I'm sorry Brian did you go to sleep. Yeah, kind of. I guess it's time to wake up because all right now we got wrestling talking fun talk. Well there you go. I just you know I just sometimes get a little perturbed with who you can focus on living better for longer understand your sleep optimize your training and build habits that support your well being. You can create routines that support you throughout the year. Add more life to every moment. Discover we at Woot.com. Speaking of who else is perturbed. Well, that's a word also that isn't used that often these days Brian. The a w fans are perturbed because one of the their their big stars is well the guy that should have been one of their big stars where they fumbled him like five years in a row. House Hobbs is contract expired. He's leaving the company he's expected soon in the waiting arms of the WWE this kind of a foregone conclusion. But I've I'm sorry it took this long. I'm just wanting to talk now about if you if you think did he wait too long or does he still have a chance. That's my my question. Some people say he was 35 other people say 34. So let's say mid 30s. It's got a great look. I hate to say you have to send them to NXT or anything. Well, he's got to go to NXT. That's a problem. Jesus Christ. That's the whole problem. Did they put him with Starks again? No, I don't. I don't. I'm not saying that because Starks is there. I'm here is what I've and what I've said has been the problem for a while. They don't learn anything in AEW. And what that's the problem is now he's going to have to go to NXT because I'm not talking of a hasn't learned how to do a power slam or whatever the fuck. I've said they don't learn how to put matches together. They don't learn how to do finishes. They don't learn logical booking. They don't learn anything about a risk reward ratio, although that standard is slipping in the WWE these days also. But and when is the last time you heard him speak on television? I mean, he must. I don't nothing stands out. But he must have done a promo with the ops. I mean, I don't remember one. We watch dynamite every goddamn week and have for five years. When is the last time you heard powerhouse Hobbs do a promo? I'm not talking about secondary Dairy shows or he's a Ring of Honor six man tag team champion. That's the problem. Whenever they have used him, they put him in with guys on the top of the card. He's had some squashes and he's had some big wins, but he's also had major disappearances that didn't weren't chalked up to injury. They just Tony's haphazard booking. And he was a baby face and he was a heel that he became a baby face again because his manager forgot about him. Remember that one? That still stands out in my mind. The book is so the point of I'm making is five years ago, if he was 29 years old, that's why I was saying this guy's got all the potential in the world. And for the past few years, I've been saying the same thing about him as some of these other guy, Kyle, good old Kyle Felture. Instead of it's harder to unlearn bad habits and or learn the right way to do things that it is to learn it from scratch. And to it now you take into I'm not saying that Hobbs is not capable of being coached, but he's probably going to have to have some things explained to him is why that would be fucking stupid. Because he done a lot of stupid shit that he's been told to do. And then there's the the aspect of just repetition. In the last five years, if this was the territory days, Hobbs would have if he was working anywhere on the cards of any territory, he would have had 1500 matches. Do you think he's had in five years? Has he had 150 with AEW? With just AEW? I don't know. Well, but does he wrestle anywhere else? I don't know. A main event player in CMLL. That's what I'm saying is that he's had few repetitions. He's been in the rig, everything, every kind of style from the bucks to Dick the Boozer to again, a few guys knew what the fuck they were doing. He was around punk for a while. But now he's got a bunch of conflicted shit. They've confused him. The booking has been stop and start. He hasn't even had the opportunity to practice his promos in any kind of spotlight or major platform. So he's going to have to go to NXT. And they're going to have to figure out the things that they can magnify and accentuate and the things that they want to try to hide if any weaknesses and try to get him starting to talk. And with an actual personality gimmick instead of just powerhouse Hobbs, and he wears the same thing all the time and you would get rid of the name. Well, I don't think it's essential because it's not like he's a huge star. It's not like, you know, a guy that's been known worldwide suddenly has to change like the Winvader. They win Vader to change his name. Hobbs has been an AEW. That's what people know. And that's a small percentage of the overall WWE audience, but they're going to want to own something. But the thing is, remember five years ago, they did some kind of promo where he got shot or his brother was shot or he got shot trying to protect his brother. I don't remember now. Okay, well, there you go. At that point, I had said five years, six years ago, maybe, Jesus Christ, maybe farther that there's something there. That's the way you introduce and they did introduce him and then never mentioned it again and then three weeks later, whatever he's a heel and then we died. It's just horrible. The WWE will at least it's not going to be like Vince where everybody had to have a job and somebody was a plumber and somebody was hockey player and somebody got him whatever the fuck. But they're going to try to establish who Powerhouse Hobbs is and tell part of his story. If they want him to be a baby face, then they're going to tell the story of his brother and his toughness and everything one way. And if they want him to be a heel, then they're going to accentuate maybe in another way. He's got to be a heel. He's got such a good look for a heel. Well, facially, just he's a heel. But you know what? But at the same time, he can be a big time baby face. After being a big time heel. Or he could be a big time heel after being a big time baby face. Point is they they're going to figure out who the fuck he is. They're going to polish him up a little bit. He let it get him some practice talking. And then, you know, I would think that they would not be real patient at his age because he's still the the good thing is he hadn't had a lot of matches. And the bad thing is he had a lot of matches. He hasn't had a ton of injuries and just bumped himself to death. But at the same time, he's still inexperienced. At least his growth potential over the last five years. I don't know. Maybe he's been training in secret somewhere and he's going to be a prodigy. But if he just learns what the fuck he sees at those TV tapings. He needs some help down there. But I would think they would want to produce something in the next year or two because of his age. I would think so too because of his age because of his age. What would you have done if you had a chance to go to WWE? And you also had a chance to resign with a w for more than likely more money. Then WWE, however, you know that you're just going to be running in place. You're never going to. If there was ever a chance you could be a superstarts never going to happen in a w. You're going to be able to break through that. But in WWE, it could happen. Would you have done the same thing or would you go for the money of Tony? No, that's the thing is I think that that shows he has determination. That shows that that he still thinks that he can contribute instead of just doing whatever the fuck he's been doing. Taking bumps into goddamn, you know, who was it? He got electrocuted, didn't he? Last last time we saw him in a big take a big bump on Dynamite, he got electrocuted. Then he came back with the. Oh, it gets out of page. It was him against Adam Page. Yeah. But anyway, he he still and it's now or it's now or never. So I think he realizes that he's got to before he gets too old and past his athletic peak. He, you know, there's a chance he can be real big. Oh, it's a probability he's going to be big in the WWE. I don't think he's going to flunk out of it. So eventually he'll probably make. Probably as much maybe more money as he'd have made with Tony to be guaranteed for the next five years or whatever, just sit out the rest of his career doing the same shit he's been doing with the same people. But it might have actually been easier on him to take Tony's money, which is why they got more proud of him that he has bet on himself a little bit. Are you surprised? I mean, we know that Tony in the past traditionally, if he thinks you're going to WWE, you're off TV, have to do a whole bunch of people. We haven't seen Anna Jay on TV in a while. If you haven't noticed, are you surprised that he's been using Hobbs? I mean, we just saw him in a was it a street fight him and hook against swerve and Adam Page a week ago. Yes. And well, and he was part of Joe's group, which has been in this whole, you know, the main event. The main picture thing, the main event thing. And of course, if they needed to lose anybody out of that package, it was old Shepoopie. But either. I'd either Tony was kind of surprised that this happened or but at the same time, several places are reporting that the WWE has said for months, we think Hobbs is coming here. When his contract expired sources within. So if if I can read about it, that that was a rumor going back for a while. One would think Tony would have known about it. Yeah, definitely. It was on Twitter. Tony knew about it. So maybe he just figured, well, I've got him in this so far and or maybe he's scared. Maybe he was scared like, shit, I don't even want to tell him to stay home. I don't know. I who can who can figure out the way Tony thinks. You know, it'd be interesting to see what happens because Hobbs, you almost universally has been considered one of the most underutilized or underbooked or wrongly booked guys at AEW. He looks like a star. He's got a story. Like you said, if you want to make him a baby face, I think he's a great heel. You know, he's one of the guys that never got the big push that other people got. Did powerhouse Hobbs ever get as good a push as Daniel Garcia? Oh, I'm serious. I mean, you know, I guess maybe it's an equal at best. I mean, but no, no, no. Oh my God. Remember the weeks and weeks we couldn't get rid of Garcia from our TV screen much less, much less the fucking idiot with his hands in his fucking. I mean, I'm a jungle boy. I mean, all of these guys, they all got better pushes than Hobbs, even though Hobbs had more potential and look, he's been there. Jungle boy. All things being equal. Jungle boy. If I just looked at a picture and saw him work one time, I would have said, OK, I can, I can hit you a horse to him. I didn't. You wouldn't. It wouldn't become apparent till later. He's an idiot. I'm just curious that he's given Garcia or any of these broken down Japanese legends that he keeps providing a wrestling version of the motion picture country home for. Like in five years, in five years, he's been there five years. And we saw him as a heel. We saw him as a baby face. We saw him with Taz. We saw him with, I think, Don Callis. We saw him with Joe Stable. He's been all over the place. He's never had just a good concerted, like two months strong push, right? They had him work with Moxley and then he went right back to where he was. I think he won the TNT title at one point. And then you forget about it because he went right back to where he was. He was never in the main event picture. A guy that looks like that with that kind of potential was never in the main event picture once. You know what? If what he had been doing over the last six months had been the first we saw of him, it would have been pretty good because he's in a group with Samoa Joe who's the, let's say, Samoa Joe five years ago was the AEW champion. He might have been. Okay, this is five years ago. Joe's the AEW champion, Hobbs is his muscle and good Lord Jesus Christ on a cracker. Get rid of Shabbat and just put hook in there as a flunky obnoxious kid. And that would have been a perfect way to start featuring Hobbs as a policeman and an enforcer to the champion. And he would be standing back right behind him. And then at some point there would be some element of friction that would lead to a guy like Hobbs breaking out and breaking free of his oppressive fucking boss Samoa Joe. And then you've got a goddamn baby face or something like that. We've seen him do every goddamn thing in the world for five years, but not for long. And then they do. And again, Tony uses them up till the end, which he never does for any of these people that are going to leave. But there was no break up. There was no, you're the weak link. There was nothing. It was just he's now going to be gone. Are they going to say Shabbat and hook ran him off? He's just gone. And now the stable is Joe and Shabbat and a hook. That ain't good. I will say I think Hobbs was best used and he wasn't used well in this role at all, but he was best used with Ricky Starks. I wouldn't have a problem with him and Ricky Saints being paired up again. I think Ricky Saints kind of needs a guy behind them who looks like he can kick some ass to back up his mouth. I wouldn't be against that in NXT. Well, say, and no, and I wouldn't be against that either. Except earlier, I was just saying I wouldn't say sending the NXT specifically to be with him. I would say he's going to have to go to NXT anyway. If Ricky Saints was not there because he's going to have to learn the WWE way of doing things and probably a more restrained and logical way of doing things and how to accentuate the positives in himself to get himself over and how they're going to tell a story about him. That's going to determine how people start taking to it. Not just, well, here's, they haven't told us anything in the past four and a half years about who Powerhouse Hobbs is or why he wants to do any of the things he's doing. He's just doing them. Am I right? For the most part, I think you're right. Yeah. We don't remember anything about until I mentioned it about his brother. It said the point is, yes, they're going to, they're going to tell us maybe who he is, who he, who they want him to be, what we're supposed to fucking like or dislike about him and how to present him. And that's going to take some time to get him with it also. I just hope they don't give him a stupid NXT name. That's what I really am like dreading. That's the Marcus Jones. What's he doing here? Like, I just don't want that, you know, that if they're hopefully this interested in a guy and they know this guy is not just coming, you know, out of wrestling school that he's he's not only been around for some time, but also the clock is ticking. So I think they're going to, if they want him at his age, that means they have some plans and believe they can get something more than just taking any old Jack leg off the street as they used to say. Do you think it's a loss for a W? I that's a weird question. But what is the last thing about this? Considering his age, the way he's been pushed, the realities of what any push would more than likely be going forward, who's currently in the main event picture, who probably will be in the next few years. I mean, is it a loss for a W or is it, is it a nothing for a W because they use them so poorly? Well, that's the thing. It's a a gain for the W. W. E. Developmental program and probably for the. Not too distant future of its main roster, one would think. But it's hard. It's hard for anybody to be a loss in a W except for the very. Well, they've lost a couple of the key names. Osprey still, we haven't seen him in a few months now from his surgery, whatever. It's it's hard for anybody to be a loss because they're all just there. Think about MJF left. And did a movie or whatever the fuck he did. And as come back and the. The business and or the numbers and or anything at this point, nothing goes up or down. At this point, no matter who's there or not there, am I exaggerating or have you seen evidence to the contrary to what I'm saying? Where we are today, I don't think really anyone is a big mover anymore. But again, we don't see quarter hours or anything. We're just looking at the big picture. I'm not even talking about the quarter hours because those poor glutton's for punishment. They come back the next week and start watching it. They fucking run them off again. But I mean, just on any meaningful basis. When's the last time. That any anybody coming or going or getting hurt and being out or debuting or whatever. Just made any real noticeable appreciable difference in anything or are they just there for whatever the fuck's going to go on at this point in this promotion? That was so long of a question. I lost my concentration when I said that I lost it when I was asking the question. I don't know if I phrased it grammatically correctly or not. But see that, you know, Brian, that's what happens when you lose your concentration. You get you. That's, you know, sometimes you can just say just gibberish type things and people don't want to. Most people don't want to do that in public. Although some people do these days. But nevertheless, it's a new year, Brian. But we need to concentrate and focus on our future. We need to to try to modify some of our behaviors to be more healthy. 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This is not. Take that. I'm sorry. I was concentrating. You should not have the burden of Jim singing Eric Burton. Oh, very good. You can get your ultra pouches. Once again, promo code JCE. More about them in the future. Hey, Jim, before we move on, I know there's still some news of comings and goings. Have you seen the statement that Kota Ibushi released? Oh boy. No, I have not. But is he finally decided to hang it up? I heard he hobbled to the ring for to wave at the fans at Tanahashi's retirement in Japan. And I think it's a good thing that we have a lot of people who are not in the world to wave at the fans at Tanahashi's retirement in Japan. And no, that's the word that was used was he hobbled. That's what it was. No, he quite literally did. I saw it. So what's he saying? They made him walk the longest runway. There is a pro wrestling at the Tokyo Dome. Jesus Christ. The fuck they could got him a golf cart. Well, he put up Instagram post. And it says, I'm so sorry, Kenny. There's no guarantee. But medically, I have one year and nine months left. Jesus, I'll cure you in nine unnecessary months. That means I'll be back in 2026. I've caused trouble for Kenny in return. I can't say for sure, but I'll do it. I gained the power to send out new energy. Shall I teach you bald guys that you have no chance of winning? Yesterday, for the first time in a while, I was, I was able to, I was able to enter the Budokan in costume for a live performance by the band that plays my entrance song. I think I fulfilled another ambition and the Tony Khan, I'll be making a comeback once again. I'm not sure if my English will be understood, but I'll do my best. Wait a minute. Okay. Here's the problem. Is he using one of those auto translate things is that is he just is he speaking gibberish in Japanese and it's translating gibberish or is he trying to speak English poorly and that's what he's writing and thinks it makes sense. Is that I guess that's more, more likely because none of that makes any sense. Does it? What you just said, I'm not exactly sure what he said. Again, I'll cure you in nine unnecessary months, but then it says I have one year and nine months left. So there's a one year period that's kind of up a up in the air right now. Well, he's trying to give Kenny a discount or something and he'll be back in a year instead of a year and nine months. Maybe that's a hell of a way to say I'll return to help my partner. I'll cure you. Maybe I'll save you. I'll help you. Hold on. Hold on for just a little under a year and I'll be there to help you out in this fucking fight. Jesus Christ. You know, for real, he's trying to give Kenny a discount or something and he'll be like, you know, for real, he's made himself now must watch for me. When Kota Bushi returns, I'm going to be watching his next match like a hawk. He could just drop just waiting for something. His leg may fall off. He may just like take a step and that's it. And then Tony pays him for another two years to go tweet in Japan. Whatever the fuck he's doing. But yeah, I can't wait to see his return. I really, really can't wait. But there's a lot of things happening with A.W. in terms of talent. They lost power. Yes, they've got they've got some. I heard they have acquisitions and I don't know who. Well, of course, the word came out that they lost powerhouse Hobbes. And then on A.W. Dynamite, the first of the announcements was made. They put up an image on the screen, which actually they never do. They never really announced like these people have been signed and they're coming here. Some of that maybe because it was. I bet it's hit a nerve with Tony that, oh, it's going to be in the news that we've lost you guys. So he's going to sign what six or eight more people make up for it obfuscate the issue. Well, A.W. has signed the Rascals. Felix and the band will be joining the A.W. Ross. I was about to say how old is Felix Cavallari? How in the he's got to be 80. I can't. The Rascals are Desmond Xavier, Zachary Wentz, Trey Miguel, and Myron Reed answering the question, will there ever be a wrestling star named Myron? And now there is one. Who knew? Four of them are a team called the Rascal. I recognize a couple of the I is one or two of those guys was on one of the programs we watched for a while that they have prison tattoos and just looked sloppy as fuck. Yeah, they're kind of like if I remember Jack, Jack Evans met the young bucks and then got prison tattoo. He just did a bunch of yeah. Yeah. But OK, so he signed four of them to take the attention off of losing one guy over there. But that's that's four more guys that honestly are going to do the same shit that they got already got a lot of guys doing. And it ain't good already. So they don't need to add to it. We'll talk about some of the other people they've signed. But in terms of if you look past who they are and what talent they are or aren't the strategic move here in terms of these are not just for indie guys. These are four guys from TNA right before TNA. The weak TNA got their new TV show where apparently they were figured in at least one of the guys had his match pulled because he signed with a W. No, and then that was going to be on the show. But Tony got TNA talent who had been featured some of them on NXT. So I think this is we always say where's Tony going to get talent. I personally am not a fan of the bits I've seen of these guys. But in terms of guys who have been on national TV, they've been on two different wrestling shows and now they'll be here and they could use the name apparently that they use. So in a sense, it's the first time in a while Tony's had a little bit of a I say a little bit just a little bit of a win in terms of hey, we got to announce this and surprise everyone. Surprise. Boy, if that was my surprise birthday party, I'd go back home. It's that's the problem is that you mentioned that Tony doesn't have anywhere to get any talent from but what Tony looks for is for more guys who all look and do the same shit as a bunch of guys he's already got that look and do the same. And what he lost was a guy's had for five years that nobody in the company looked like him. Or could potentially do the things that he could fucking do. So it's a I think it's a net negative at least four on one for Tony there that he lost a guy that could have been a fucking guy for four guys that can be for the guys. That's just let let's let them captivate me with their incredible fucking promos and main event level performances and I'll change my mind. Well, again, those four stars will be added to the A.W. roster. I'm sure it'll be some great flipping matches with the young bucks at some point in the future. But other names that Tony assigned this week. Hatches arrow. He announced he's been on the fucking show. He is now signed a or at least he it was announced that he had signed a CMLL A.W. split contract a joint contract between the two companies. Jim also this week. Tony Khan has locked down. My scour DeRotta. 24 years old. Of course we talked about the top rated matches of 2025 for Dave Meltzer. My scour DeRotta was in about 150 of them. And now Tony Khan once again working with CMLL. Working with Uncle Dave and conquered by the C Incorporated. Of course CMLL must be happy that Tony's not just taking everyone. It's a joint deal also signing with A.W. this past week. Hold on. Hold on now. Hold on now. Let's go back. Wouldn't you know who won the pony that Uncle Dave's new crush of the moment that I'm not talking about Brian Adams. Suddenly gets signed to it. He's already been on the show anyway but now he's signed to a big contract. But right. How many miscellaneous guys from Mexico under a mask do they have now that do approximately the same shit. Now continue on with that. Again I have what Dave Meltzer wrote here. My scour DeRotta 24. One of the best and most exciting young wrestlers in the business is also signed to a joint deal. He is the number two babyface behind Mystico in CMLL. And one of the best flying wrestlers of all time already. So again taking the name and the talent and what you think of him out of the picture. You know WWE would be after this guy. Is it worth it? They like my scour DeRotta much more than you and I ever would. And maybe they even see a way to make money with him. But just in terms of again where's Tony gonna get talent. You kind of have to start locking down guys now before WWE gets a hold of him and gets him in the system. Because they are trying to prevent Tony Khan from being able to get people. Well and if the WWE are interested and I guess they would be at a 24 year old guy that can do anything at this fucking point. Then I would sign him. And I would give him a big contract. And what I wouldn't have done is in the previous two years signed Commander and Gravity and Spaceship and Neon and Joe Fritz and Blue Suede shoes and 18 other fucking guys. Including Bandito that we're gonna talk about momentarily. And I can see getting the two or three or four top guys especially that might draw a house in Mexico in Mexico and especially if they might be guys the WWE would legitimately be interested in. Oh I forgot about Vekingu. But just all of this miscellaneous that mope faced midgets that aren't masked or the just constant array of miscellaneous guys and masks running around every once in a while on the show. He's just muddied the water for legitimate major superstars. It because everybody looks so incredibly same at this point because it's not any novelty on their program and most of the guys are just booked to be people that run around and do all the fucking swing dancing and docy do. Well Jim two more names that AEW signed this past week. Jesus Christ he loses one guy and signs 12. Go ahead. One that we have seen previously or at least heard the name of 24 years old from CMLL Persephone aka Persephone. I thought I thought we decided it was Persephone and we thought it was Persephone. Well we will find out because she will be on AEW TV in the future. According to Dave Meltzer. Can we make her hometown Parsephone. That would be funny. According to Dave Meltzer WWE was interested in her since the London match that she was in. So another person that WWE wanted and the final signing. May get this wrong. Her name is Tate Vic. Who nanin. Wait a minute Tate Vic Poonani. What are you saying? Who nanin. Who nanin I believe. Who who who who knew. She's 36 years old and she was a former actress according to this with a kickboxing background. A 36 year old former kickboxing actress. I can't wait to see what Marina Schaefer better look out. Also this week Tony signed Cynthia Rothrock to a 10 year deal. My kid but uh. Who the fuck is who is she. She was a female karate star in the movies that Marty Gorman was obsessed with. But Jim. These signings. I didn't know they let Marty Gorman in movies. Again you lose Hobbs. You kind of said it there really the best there aren't guys that look like that. And in terms of the rascals. You sign guys that kind of just. Maybe if you watch that. Yeah. Yeah. They don't stand out. They don't seem like they're. They have a great look. Like a Hobbs and the luchadors like you said if Moscow or the Rada is the greatest thing of all time. You shouldn't flood the show with generic luchadors. So. We'll see when when when masquerades would main event in the United States how many except potentially in Corpus Christi or what are Los Angeles. How many other guys were wearing masks on the card. Not too many. If any nobody Madison Square Garden anyone. Madison Square Garden his opponent wasn't allowed to wear a mask. That's right. He was the first one that was allowed to wear a mask in Madison Square Garden history in 1970 fucking to. And I think he wrestled I could be wrong he wrestled L. Olympic. It was either that one or one of the first ones and you see the video and he was like no one of those masks with the face cut out of it. Yes but no it was. Oh God damn it. I used to know the answer to this question. L. Olympic. Oh had to on another occasion wrestle another heel there with his face cut out of the mask. But the guy that was it it wasn't the golden terror. It was an American guy. That sounds fairly fucking red. Now he's an American guy. But it was a heel that was normally masked. And they made him wear an open face mask when he wrestled in the garden as opposed to the regular mass that he were everywhere else in the W W W F territory but they let. Mosker a slide because of his. He wouldn't do it without it he wouldn't take his mask off and he was so popular and then they just changed the law the athletic commission. How would that even help the mass wrestler if you have to show up and expose your face and you still why would you even still wear anything just to hide. That's it was it was goofy but that's what they were forced to do. But nevertheless if I would hide my face to if I was some of these people right now how about that. Well it sounds like a promising future for a W Dynamite and collision. We will cover those happenings when they happen. Well right now we're going to cover the other side of the coin and go to total nonstop action wrestling. Well Jim this was the big one the AMC debut for TNA which had been on Access TV which was owned by the parent company for a long time and of course we've seen many big TNA first night of being on Monday or first time on a new channel. But this one was pretty big it's the first real big positive momentum this way for TNA in a long time. It was definitely I thought I thought this was worth you checking it out because it should be one of their big shows. Yeah thanks a lot there. Take funny McGee as Mama Cornette would say their momentum hit a brick wall. Did I curse them because I was watching this this was just at the top of the show. I'm going to say now this was one of the biggest cluster fucks I've ever seen in my life for a new network debut for a I don't know what the normal TNA TV show looks like because we haven't watched it in quite a while. So if this was indicative of what they've been it's just been a mess but if this was what they did because they tried to be so fancy and so grandiose on their debut that they shit the bed in the completely opposite direction. Maybe that's that's one thing but this was not one would think that the reason why they're making a big deal out of going on AMC is because they expected to be in front of a lot of new eyeballs a brand new audience open up a new a bigger platform that more people might be seeing this thing. Could they have done a better job out of confusing anybody who had never seen this fucking show before. If they tried on purpose. Let's really drive those motherfuckers crazy let's get them so confused they don't know who the fuck they're looking at. Could they have done a better job. I ask you I thought the show is horrible and we could break it down I said a little bit at the very top of the show confusion really wasn't the issue for me. Of all the many issues I had it wasn't you know I'm confused about things it does seem to have a little bit of an identity crisis. Are they alternative NXT or are they their own company. It's a well even a guy the guy in charge Carlos Silva it's like if Tony Khan and Carrie Silkin had a baby with no courage. Oh god. No I think he might be Kerry's brother in law more than you know just a guy comes out where the baseball cap and a funny coat. But not when I say confusion I'm looking at it from a television producer who is on more than one occasion several has formatted a television program. The first one for that product to reach a wide audience, whether it was with Ohio Valley wrestling when we went from the low power TV station to the big full cable coverage. WB juggernaut that we had or a ring of honor at least going on Sinclair or whatever the case or when we did a few different things in WCW and WWE. And they tried to be everything and so fancy and it was just it was a mess and I'm not even talking about the amateur hour gimmicks and the almost parody of some things to the point where it was ridiculous. And they started the show there in Dallas, Texas right at that Cowell Center and they've they've got from what I understand from the internet they had somewhere around 2800 people, but it's not a big building so at first their first shot looked good. And I should mention the cold open first. Dave Sahadi is no longer working for him. Because he would they tried to do one of those cold opens with the announcer voice voice over with gravitas instead of a live Shriver type they got like a fucking YouTube guy in his basement growling into a microphone. The verbiage was hokey and over the top. They did nice editing visually with the video, but again, it was like they were trying to do a great show for the microscopic audience that they have had up till now, rather than trying to do a show that new people could actually sit down and understand what the fuck was going on. You even watched the cold open and if so do you see what I'm saying it was just so over the top with the flowery verbiage and the the growling trying to simulate an NFL films thing. And it was just meaningless highlights if you didn't know these people were. Well again that's I don't know how much of that is something they do regularly or if that's just a throwback to the old days because when Dave's audio was doing it for TNA those were kind of at the time groundbreaking. Yes, that's what I'm saying this was this was the guy's voice was the thing I remember the most. Well this was let's put it together in the fucking basement but also if you're showing this to a new audience. We don't know who any of these fucking people are and you've already lost everybody. And then they come out and they've got a nice hot crowd. And you could tell that the people were motivated to make it a big deal they're chanting am see they're chanting TNA whatever and here comes AJ Styles. And gets a big pop. And you can debate that they were calling AJ the original face of TNA or whatever when AJ was there just like Joe and rude and so many of those guys the X WWF guys. Were presented over them but AJ was synonymous with the best period of TNA at that point. At least in the fans minds that are left. And he's a star and they loved him and the AJ chance. And he did the big introduction to the house that AJ Styles built but he put TNA over and on am see. And got him to chant again. And when AJ got in after that entrance the announcers are talking and that's the problem. One of the problems this shows had the announcers talked whoever the fuck these two are they're doing the old thing that everybody does and you do it better than I do Brian where they're playing an answer and talking like that just all the time. This is one of the greatest nights we've ever seen. Look at this match. This animal is just out of control. What do you think? Well they were talking but we never we don't know what these motherfuckers look like it is not even like it's Jim Ross or you know whatever where everybody knows they could have done a 10 second swing around with a handheld and given them a graphic with their names and just put their faces on it so we know who's speaking. It's a brand new show we've never seen these people before. They did it later on but they could have done it then. But then AJ did it could have done his promo but then after the AJ promo and he's got him chanting T and a T and a. Then they went to the show open an animated show open and it's nicely edited. And it has more highlights of people that we still don't really know who these motherfuckers are and. If this was the animated open that they're going to use on the show going forward every week. Well I think it's just swell. But they had the people up and chanting and then they go to that. And then when they come out of that. I love the shot of the the vacant outdoor Curtis Cowell Center after dark. Did you pay attention to that evening? There were some interesting shots. There were times where the crowd looked really good. And then there were other times. I don't want to talk about the outdoor. I saw the outdoor shot sure. The drone shot. There was not one living human being. The building there's no cars in the parking lot. The only show was the handicapped spots. There was no cars in the parking lot. There was nobody in the lobby. You could see through the building the glass of the front of the lobby. There's nobody in the lobby. There's nobody walking on the sidewalk. You kid. There's not a fucking it looked like the walking dead after the zombie apocalypse. And it was just a slow 20 degree pan of a fucking elevated drone shot of this empty fucking building. They couldn't send some wise ass with a handheld out there at 536 o'clock when all these 2782 people are trying to get in this place. And say this was the scene earlier tonight. And there's more of the announcers that we have not goddamn seen yet that is talking about the Curtis Co well center. And then. Now that they come back into building. They've turned the lights down and settled everything down. So guess who's the first person you see on this show. Elijah when I read it I thought oh Elijah Burke is there. Elijah used to be Elias who had the brother named Ezekiel who sat there with that stupid fucking guitar and asked us to take a walk. And then the WWE asked him to take a walk. And now he's here. And he's doing the same goddamn thing. I know I'm moving in quick succession Brian but I'll stop here because we're about to get into a match. But the point is they didn't need the drone shot. But they do it because the WWF does it but they did it at the worst possible time. Live when everybody's in the fucking arena and you're shooting the outside you simpletons. You couldn't foresee that. So you've had a cold you've announced you're in Dallas you've gone to a cold open you've come out to a hot crowd. You gave them a star then you went to a pre taped show open then you went to a shot of a fucking empty parking lot. Then you came back into the goddamn building and settled everybody down for this goddamn James Taylor wannabe with a fucking beard. How many opens to this show do they need to do I'm talking about the formatting here most importantly Brian so now your thoughts. Wow. You know again I keep going back to the same thing it's a bad show. I know the TNA fans always get on us that you have to give TNA a chance watch it. When I watch it the first thing I see is AJ Styles is a star in another company. He was coming out here just do a quick rah rah thing and get out of there. And we never saw him and well we saw him in the back but the people in the arena never saw him again. And by the way he's there and we'll talk about Dixie and everything else happening. I think Jeff Jarrett felt left out. No I think he felt safe safe at home. Very good. Well they go from AJ to Elias who again if you are someone watching. Well you know what I mean. Yeah yeah yeah. If you're someone watching this you're familiar with him probably from WWE TV. You probably haven't said hey I really miss that Elias guy and when he shaved and he was his own brother. And he's here doing the exact same gimmick. And to me that's the problem with TNA. They have no identity for themselves. It's like a WWE little brother show but not like in a good way. NXT should be the little brother show. It's almost like the outcast cousin. But like there's elements of what WWE does that they do. Is this show like a Randy Quaid? This is the cousin Oliver of professional wrestling shows. And you know the commentators are doing WWE style commentary which shouldn't surprise you because the main commentator is a guy who probably trained under Michael Cole and the Kevin Dunn WWE style commentary. And the commentator is like a guy who probably trained under Michael Cole and the Kevin Dunn WWE style commentary. And the commentator is like a guy who probably trained under Michael Cole and the Kevin Dunn WWE style commentary. And the commentator is like a guy who probably trained under Michael Cole and the Kevin Dunn WWE style commentary. And the commentator is like a guy who probably trained under Michael Cole and the Kevin Dunn WWE style commentary. And the commentator is like a guy who probably trained under Michael Cole and the Kevin Dunn WWE style commentary. And the commentator is like a guy who probably trained under Michael Cole and the Kevin Dunn WWE style commentary. And the commentator is like a guy who probably trained under Michael Cole and the Kevin Dunn WWE style commentary. And the commentator is like a guy who probably trained under Michael Cole and the Kevin Dunn WWE style commentary. Which sucks. Which is talking a disingenuous way, which sucks. Which is talking a disingenuous way, active. Wrestling needs a host. That's a whole nother issue. But there's no, there's no identity. It just, it looks cheap. I'm sorry it does. It looks so cheap. Well, let's, let's hold on before we get ready to shit on it all. Just, just whatever you want to talk about. Before we judge too harshly, let's get into this fucking match. Again, I'm talking about presenting. You don't want to just start from scratch, disregard all your angles and who is done what and what everybody's relationship is when you start on a new station with a wider reach. But what you do want to do is you want to start out with the thought that we are going to maintain the stories as best we can that we have been telling for our existing fans while trying to slow down for a few weeks and tell the new people enough to catch them up without bombarding them with enough just nonsense that they can't keep track of. Do you see what I'm saying? See, I guess that's part of the problem in my eyes and I don't own TNA. So it's easy for me to sit here and say that, but I would almost, if I did want to run off the fans I have and start a new, because that's part of the problem. They're accepting of this. The people who defend TNA seriously watch it and say, that's a good show. What kind of problem do they have with these shows? These nonstop women's segments with bad acting, these WWE outcasts doing shit I don't care about. It seems like WWE is not even the big thing, NXT. It's under the thumb of NXT. NXT is like the big overriding thing on this whole show. Well, but still, boy, when I'm trying to be the voice of reason, I know it's gotten you, you're just trying to make up for it driving me crazy. No, it didn't make me happy either. But that's the thing is that again, you need to, they gave them a big star at the beginning. They had them hooked. What about if the fucking top babyface had to come out and joined AJ for a promo, a rah-rah, to sweet give them a little rub or what about if the top heel, whoever that might be, had come out to fucking verbally joust with him or whatever. But no, they got them up, then they left them. OK, now who are we going to see next after the exterior and all the other shit? And here's Elijah. And then suddenly who wants to walk with Elijah and then the lights come on and here's the guitar player and the hearties come out and there's random people. Civilians coming down the stage with cell phones and mats carrying two belts and Jeff's got one and all these people suddenly burst out and are making noise. And now we see the announcers when we we only had the fucking one fucking guy that we knew who the fuck he was walking out before. We didn't see the announcers. But now that there's 16 and we don't even know what we're looking at. Here's the announcers, too, and they give us a ridiculous amount of information about what the matches are going to be again amongst people we've never heard of before to see it for the first time as a new audience. And then they introduced the baby faces and then it's time for the heels to enter for the six man tag. Matt and Jeff and Elijah. I guess. And here comes what are their guys? The groups name order for. Clean up and all six. The groups name is order for. And guys start coming down the entranceway in suits. And then Mustafa Ali, who we used to know as Muhammad Ali over there in. Titanland. He's one of them, but there's other guys in suits. There's a manager or security force guy. But as soon as they're coming down the ramp, they fly in a box from the last big pay per view where there's Elijah is riding a horse inside the arena behind Mustafa Ali and hog ties him with a rope and drags him out of the arena. This is in a double box. They've flown in while these people are making their entrances with it. And there's a girl in the group. But as the ring announcer is about to introduce them, they jump into the ring and jump start the match and cut the introduction off. And I wrote, I can't write this fast. But when again, with these, they started coming down the ramp and suddenly you, they fly in a double box with its bigger with a picture of a guy riding a horse indoors. It just looks fucking ridiculous. All of it. It's just coming at you. Isn't it amazing that this happened that we heard nothing like no one said? How come you guys haven't talked about him riding in the town on a horse and lassoing as opposed to dragging about of the building? Not one word from anyone about this. And I want to thank all those people who didn't tell us. And then the the announcer started saying, and I wrote one of the heels in white. The heels were all dressed in white. And one of them is John Schuyler, who didn't. He used to be somewhere. Was he in the dark order? Was that John Silver? Yeah, or I don't I don't know. And they just they went no tags with a six way Elijah suplexed one of the heels off the top rope while he was standing on the backs of two of the other ones. They've got a girl referee that has a ponytail. Never seen had before. And they went a minute and went to the fucking break. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, thank God they stopped. I was getting seasick. It. They've lost everybody by that point. It's like, what is going on here? Then they came back from the break. I swear to God, the Hardys were on the floor for some reason. They'd been wiped out. And Elijah foiled the heels and hit a hot tag to Jeff and right as he hit the hot tag, the camera was showing the celebrities in the audience looking board. And when I say celebrities, I'm talking about. If people on AMC shows that we have never fucking heard of. And they weren't even jumping up and down. They were just like, yeah, we're here. And they missed the hot tag. Jeff made to come back. The heel girl got in the ring. The referee was just looking at it. And Jeff ran one of the heels into the heel girl and then the girl was on the heels back. So Matt gave a twist of fate to both of them. And then cover and the referee counted a cluster fuck save the heels tagged again. And then Jeff Swanton, one of these guys with every bit of his fucking weight right on this guy. One, two, three. And I have heard people say that maybe Jeff is doing that because he can't. He's heard he can't take the bump on the mat anymore. Then don't do the goddamn move. We have we are going to have a serious fucking issue. If you jump up, I'm laying there on purpose waiting for you and you jump off the top rope and land on me in that manner. We're we have a serious fucking problem to discuss. Fucking hell. Are you do you have any comments here because there's more keep going. Well, special agent zero popped up and got in. This fucking guy that they were trying to sell like my god, he's a walking deadly weapon like he looked like Batista or something. He looks like I don't want he looks like a fucking guy with a kind of funny haircut and a suit. And he beat up all three of the baby faces. And then. Vincent and Dutch from the righteous remember them from years ago somewhere, AEW. Yeah. Well, they came out in their white suits to save the hardies and make special agent zero and the rest of his. Zero teammates get out of there. And then they help the hardies up and beat the shit out of them. And they padlocked. The gross fucking hole that Jeff Hardy has in his fucking ear. They put a padlock in that and chained him to the turnbuckle and beat up Matt. And said they were going to win the belts at the at the pay preview. This one did all that didn't take 10 minutes. It was just what the fuck is happening and who are these people? And they ran off and left everybody. After age eight, they again, if they had one of their talents to come and. You join him in festivities in the ring, then couldn't they have started with a single match for eight minutes between two. Of the used people in this organization where then the announcers could have had a little more time to talk about the big main event and all the things you're going to see and AMC and all those type of things and have two athletes that looked like they were halfway competent. Give us a little fucking action in the ring and then start going into. Give me your thoughts so we can move along. Again, this isn't even about the hardies at this point. I've said my piece about them when they were in a W. Nothing changes. The whole thing just feels minor league to me. The look at the ring ropes. I mean, just everything about everything there just looked cheap. There were some shots where the crowd looked really good and then other ones where whatever they call that Hollywood row. Yes, well, that's no one in the second row. But in terms of who's in this, you know, if I was watching TNA, maybe I would give the righteous a chance. I saw enough in a W to know that they're like a why it want to be gimmick. Or just some sort of wacky gimmick that. You know, it's too wacky for wrestling. They're wacky. Yeah, they're wacky. The hardies are the hardies. Elias wasn't a gimmick I ever wanted to see again. You know what? He of all of them has a physique and size and did some nice athletic shit. It's just the rotten gimmick and the presentation. And he's always in the middle of fools. And at this point, he'll never be able to outrun that gimmick. That's the gimmick. That's forever. Yeah. And then the other guys, the, you know, the wall and whatever else was happening there, that team on their suit. Again, who cares? You know, every now and then we hear from people like, oh, you have to give Mustafa Ali a chance. He's really good and he does impassioned promos. And every time I check at anything he's doing, it's some sort of fucking indie level comedy group or just something that not for me, not for me. He takes a good bump face first into the turnbuckle. But you talked about Hollywood Row, let's go to Hollywood Row. They had nice crowd shots at the beginning of the program. These wide sweeping shots of the stands where all these people were, it looked like something. And then. They show a boxer that nobody's ever heard of that apparently was part of the flea weight category. He looked like he was as big as cowboy Lang. He's holding a belt. No, no, no pop. No pop, because who knows who the fuck this guy is. And then they show a row of content creators. What the fuck is a content creator? And not only that, but they have put these content creators in this goddamn unknown boxer in a completely empty ring side section in front of a section of the building that's empty. There's no people in the stands on that side of the building. And they've just revealed that we wouldn't have known it, except for the shot they took on purpose. That we would have never seen that. We would have seen it on any shot of the ring or the entranceway, but because they had to show content creators. And then they went to another shot. Of more empty seats and not just because they're in a empty section of ringside, but you see in the back half the building, the bleachers are empty. And they had to do that to show flop dollar. Like that's in a track. Look who's here. Flop dollar. He's a rapper and a wrestler. Don't do either one very well. And so they show more 500 more empty seats. And then they have a girl announcer who is horrible. Well, what is your what kind of problem did you have with her? No, she's she's grim death on the fucking microphone. No, she was rotten, rotten, rotten to the core. And they put her in front of the empty seats to talk to the stars of AMC that nobody knew who the fuck they were. And then Ryan Nemeth, not even Nick, but Ryan comes out to do the deal where he interferes, where interrupts the stars. And apparently they were running long because he just had to go into it. He'd all fuck you. And there was a shove. And then he goes to jump the rail and he crouched himself on the rail, jumping over it to attack the celebrities and made a funny face. And one of them hit him and he fell down and it was bad comedy. It's so fake. And they go from this. Now, just think about this. This is their debut on AMC. They've shown three giant sections of empty seats in the building that they didn't need to, except they had to shoot the people that nobody's ever heard of to illustrate that they have no celebrities that are known on a national basis in their fucking building. They could have put these people in front of the front row that was full and gone to them quick with the announcers at ringside instead of this fucking girl who shrieked through the whole thing. And after they take those unnecessary shots, then they go to a clip of Santino Morella's daughter kicking him in the balls in a cage match. And just said, I like him. Yeah, yeah, here, unfortunately, Santino's daughter has turned on him. He's lost it. What the fuck? Most of these people might remember if you're got again, and any new audience is going to remember Santino Morella as the comedy idiot with the sock on his arm. Fifteen years ago. Instead, they show his daughter kicking him in the balls in a cage match like he's again, he must wrestle here regularly. God damn how old is he? And then they bring him out. He's in a sweatsuit and he's the director of authority. With funny music, doing his funny accent, wearing a badge on a chain around his neck like a fireman's badge. And the announcers even reference his quote unquote brand of entertainment. While he comes out and does a promo about his daughter turning on him, while still doing a comedy accent. And this is the guy that's supposed to be running the show. They sold this to AMC. To Brian is this is. This is some cable access shit. If I ever saw it. Yeah. And again, I talk about you watch this show. It's WWE outcasts and it's people that still enjoy that shit. There was an audience that liked the Santino stuff. And then there were a lot of us. And when I say us, I mean, people like me, people who became AEW fans who said this specifically is the kind of shit I don't like. And although you may make some of the kids in the crowd happy, but you may make someone laugh with your sock on your arm being a snake. To a lot of us, it is the exact example of everything that's wrong with modern wrestling. Wrestling can have crazy characters. It doesn't have to be over the top, silly in a way that entertains Vince McMahon. And it feels like across the board, it is still that. And when you see this, when you tune into this and you see Santino Morella and obviously, I don't know if he owns that name or if they allow that to be done, because it was a WWE created name. But he's a WWE guy doing the same WWE gimmick. His daughter that turned on him apparently is the daughter. He was with an OVW when you his daughter slapped him the same way you did. Actually, now that I think about it, there you go. He spends his life getting slapped. But you know, again, if it was him, even with that name and it had been an evolution of the character without saying I was a comedy figure for a long time, all of a sudden it's the real guy. Obviously, he could talk. Just a real guy being the commissioner. It'd be one thing, but it's a comedy commissioner. Why not just have Jameson as the commissioner? Why not have a Bushwacker as the commissioner? You know what I mean? It's just like, what the fuck? How are you supposed to take this company seriously when they got this guy as the commissioner? And then again, the bootleg Carrie Silkin coming out there later on as the president looks as sad as could be. Well, and that's where I was going with this, because again, for formatting and for a new network debut and a new audience, not only do they present. OK, this guy is a goddamn complete imbecile, and he's also the director of authority. So this is kind of a comedy show anyway. And then he introduces his new assistant. And she comes out. It's Cruella DeVille from the WWE. Oh, Sonia DeVille out. She comes. I'd I'd missed her. She can talk, but. She comes out in a like a matador mini skirt. Look, it looked very nice. One of the only star looking people on his show gave a big rah rah speech and put all the fans over how great everything was. And then. Is that the only thing that TNA doesn't need is you Santino Varela? She turned to heal on Santino and then had a meltdown on him and the fans. So on the network debut, we've met the the fucking general manager, director of authority, whatever they're calling on this program. And then he's introduced his new assistant and she's turned on him. And then she introduces a new girl. She's just signed. And she's and please welcome. And then she never says the girl's name. It just I've never please welcome. And it's like they cut her mic and out comes a girl and the announcers say, oh, that's Elena Black. So. Did they just do three months of shit in that 10 minute segment? Three months of shit. Yeah, shit. Quite literally. We meet the guy. He introduces his assistant. She turns fucking he'll on him and the fans that introduces a new talent in 10 minutes. And by the way, she's only known from being on WWE TV. She's not using that name. So it's a brand new name for her. Going back to what she was doing on Smackdown, being a commissioner character. I don't know. Again, whether she could talk or not, that's not something I want more of. Like, I wouldn't say, hey, someone signed Soraya. So she could be a commissioner. Like, I don't want that. And then she brings out Elena Black, who was she was one of those NXT girls. Let go. I think was she Corajade or something where like all the pervert fans like, oh, she's great. And then like, you know, she's just there. But that's what Corajade, Coray, Apple, something like that. But then and Sonya is Daria. Daria Ray. Daria Earl Ray. Andrew Windsor, Mountbatten. I don't know what the fuck. But that's the point is nobody recognizes the names. They all know who she is, but you can't call herself that. But they've sped through. Weeks of story development in one segment. And. Yeah. And everybody, it's it's the WWE, you know, cutting room floor here. But I'll tell you what, I was about ready to be fed up. But I said, no, I promised Brian. But the next one just about broke me. And it I think that's what turned the tide on the hot crowd. It was like a bucket of ice water on their hot throbbing manhood. This could have been the worst thing of the night. The personal concierge of this. What is this elegance brand thing is apparently. These three girls with this fucking twit that's their personal concierge is the elegance brand is what I'm gathering from trying to pick this up as we go. They just they opened in the ring and the guy introduced himself as the personal concierge. He's doing the talk and there's three girls in the ring. Jesus Christ, this is what a lineup this was. And a giant, what looked like a chicken with his back to the fucking but a big white feathery creature. With his back to the camera and a guy in a green shorts and a Hawaiian shirt outfit with purple hair. Who was introduced as Perez Hilton. Not Paris Hilton. Not Paris Hilton. They wouldn't have put Paris Hilton in the ring with these shovel faced wannabes. Good Lord, they put their poster in prisons to cure the sex offenders. But this Perez Hilton has not been on television in 15 years, has he? And he shouldn't have been on this. It would. They're making a big. Hoop to do about fashion or whatever and Perez Hilton sucks and it's very amateur. And then the concierge says they're soon to be crowned the tag team champions. So we're going to introduce our new addition, the greatest makeover ever. Mr. Elegance and the chicken throws off his cape and that's Mr. Elegance and the crowd is fucking farting at all this and this guy can't talk. And he looks like a fucking douchebag and they're getting the cat calls and booing. And supposedly he was like a fat guy last week, but they pulled a switch, but they expect us to believe it's the same guy. This looked like one of those fucking sketches on Fridays that went south. At this point, I quit. I said, I'm going to give it one more segment because then they played music and two other girls came out who are the inspiration. And I was inspired to skip that whole thing and say, I would give the show one more segment before I gave up completely because this was driving me out of my mind. Brian, what do you think about the elegant angels there? Those specifically are ash by elegance, who is the former whatever she was in WWE. That's one of the ones we hear from people. How could you not like ash by elegance or you have to see that? No, I don't. It's not good. None of this is good. This is bad glow. Well, they didn't do anything anyway. They were standing there wearing stupid outfits and little teeny hats. And then you see the segments. This was glow. This was bad glow wrestling and it's not good. And if someone really wants to make a difference with a wrestling company, don't have a women's division. Yeah, there you go. Seriously, just someone have a company without a women's division. Horrible. This whole show is horrible. TNA is horrible. Let's talk about the rest of it. All right. All right, well, I said I'm going to give it one more segment, right? So I zip ahead and guess what? The next segment was Santino was back. Who introduced two more girls with gold club stripper gimmicks and a choreographed dance entrance. And then they came out and this is on fast forward, by the way. I'm watching this and two other girls came out and signed a contract to wrestle. So I said, I'll give it one more chance. Let's just give me something. The next segment was the system on stage. The system was three guys wearing T shirts and jeans and matching green jackets. A girl and moose. Who I recognize have even met once before in the past. And the announcer said they have been the dominant group in TNA. I was. Is this like the four horsemen? What the fuck? But apparently they're the baby faces. Even the girl talked first. She shouldn't talk at all. She should be seen and not heard also. But apparently they are the baby faces. And then. To my shock and surprise, one of them is Eddie Edwards. I know Eddie Edward didn't recognize him for a minute. Different physique, different hairstyle. Haven't seen him in 15 years. But but. As they're talking, he turned to the guy next to him and they're having a match. And the guy in the dirty dango T shirt. I don't know who he is. I didn't hear them say his name. He used to be Fandango and WWE Christ. He was a dancer. I know, I remember that. Who wanted you to pronounce his name correctly? Fandango. Well. He's there. And even though they're apparently all friends and baby faces, they're he's retiring at their next pay per view. And it's going to be a match against Eddie Edwards for reasons that I don't know were explained and don't really give a shit to begin with. But here's the thing. OK, this dango fellow. He starts talking. I'm grateful to finish my career in TNA. It's the best locker room I've ever been in. Like anybody gives a shit about that, right? And thanks for being a great crowd. OK, that's a baby face statement. And then he says my last match is Saturday against my good friend, Eddie Edwards. Next week, I'm going to be here to announce my replacement in this group. But in the meantime, he turns to Eddie and he says he actually says this. They wrote some stuff for me. This motherfucker, if I could have just put a goddamn spear through this TV screen. They wrote some stuff for me, but I'm going to tear up when I tell you this. I I love you like a brother, etc., etc. But I ain't going out like a punk. And then they just stood there and it looked like for a moment, they were going to tongue kiss. And I was confused who the why. What is fucking going on with these people? But they wrote some stuff for me. He better be glad Saturday is his last match. Because I'd fire him on Sunday. And that's the top baby face stable. Yes, who look like a bunch of fucking goofs and Moose didn't even speak. No, Moose has talent. I've seen Moose wrestle. I know he's the goddamn star. He's got talent. So anyway, then give me any of your thoughts before we talk about the big return and the huge pop. The system. And I had not thought about what has happened to Fandango. I forgot all about him. Took me a few seconds after seeing him to realize that's who it was. He's having his big retirement match. Why is he fighting his friend in a retirement match? The whole thing is. You know, again, there are issues. I just want to say there are issues I have with TNA. Some of them are about talent, but by and large, it's the creative. It's the tone of the show. It's the feel of the show. This is not a current thing under Carlos Silva. It's something that goes back from Scott, the more to Jeff Charratt, the Bruce Pritchard, the Russo. There's just something that smells like death about TNA. And I think more than ever before, even with the AMC deal, I've said it before, it's wrestling purgatory. It's a bunch of guys waiting to see if they're going to be scooped up to go to heaven or if they're going to get stuck in hell. That's all TNA is. If you want to go to heaven, you got to raise a little hell. Well, Uncle Paul, well, St. Paul, reach out his hand and take me with him. Or will I stay here? It's just it's it's not a good show. Nothing feels fresh, but there's more. There's more show. Yes, there is. In this next part and you talked about Carlos Silva. And all through the show, that's the one thing that I guess that we haven't made the point that before we get any further is that they have been. It's been so over the top AMC AMC. How great it is. They introduced the noncelebrities celebrities. And they've everybody's mentioned it in the promos and they've got the people to chant it. And it's it's not. It passed the level to where that it was. Oh, isn't it great? We're on this wonderful new network and we've got this great partnership to how about you take these people came along and set us a lifeline. We've been floating in the fucking ocean for so long and the sharks were circling type of attitude. It was it not that they went so far with it? It was like my God. Life and death gratitude rather than a major announcement of expansion is the way I took it. Well, there may be a reason for that. Maybe they didn't have to. They didn't have to do that. I mean, they on their own show. But then here's this Carlos Silva fella. And. I was thinking Carlos Santana. I don't know why, but. He looks like some random guys, you said, like Harry Silken's brother-in-law. And he introduced. I swear, I'm not lying. Dixie Carter. And as soon as she walks through the curtain, the people started booing. And they continued booing. They didn't give a shit and they didn't want to listen to her. And she's trying to do. Oh, oh, isn't this great speech and thank you for all being here and thank you. Who was watching A.W. Or A.W. for the who was watching T.A. 20 years ago or whatever that glorious time. And they were just going to hug you. We don't want to see you. We don't like you. And she didn't sell it. She was waving and everything. She would say it's like she's like, this is a really emotional night for me. Why? You know, you have nothing to do with this. What an emotional in one way to see I own this. We had had a bigger TV showing more viewers than it has now and I bungled it. And now it's a miracle that has been resurrected and I'm out here for you to boo me and remind me of how bad a job I did the first time around. So maybe that did make her emotional. But I'm just in. And before we analyze this, she did the speech and then Bubba Ray Dudley's music played and out he comes and they have a stare down and she's holding her back like one thing that she ever did in her life. And people remember her for. But it was like a tense moment, according to the announcers, that is he going to power bomber again? Everybody remember? No, nobody gives a shit. Hardly anybody remembers that and it's still the most well remembered things she ever did. That's what they should have done. It would have been great. No one would have expected. No one would have expected. Oh, they're going to reunite. Oh, no, he's going to do it again. They would have carried Bubba Ray Dudley out of the building on her shoulders if he had, but instead they hugged and then he got heat for hugging her. And she left and he went to the color position. But I'm just. She has, as far as I know, no interest, no financial. I'm not talking about she's not interested. Has no financial interest, no ownership anymore at this point. Does she is there? Does she still have two percent where they have to acknowledge her existence? I don't know. What did they think? Kind of response that they were going to get when they brought her out. Well, that's if these are the people that like T and A and that are glad that T and A is prospering, she'd be the biggest heel in the history of the company besides maybe shit stain for damaging it and getting it kicked off TV and fucking stars leaving. So why and why would they think it was a good idea if she has nothing to do with the company anymore to bring her back? It's not like a beloved talent from the past. It's the stumbling block that. Sidelined him for 10 years. Her her family's money saved the company, but her. Constant involvement and interference is what. Led to its not demise, but the purgatory. And remember when when her old man flew J.R. to Dallas to talk about him running the company, but Dixie has to she has still had to be figured in because it hurt her feelings when Jeff Jarrett had the. Country music star that wanted to buy the thing. Oh, but you got to keep Dixie on in some kind of role. It hurt her feelings when Billy Corgan thought that he had bought the fucking thing. I forgot about that. Yeah. Yes, the whole idea was to get out of it. Everybody that's ever tried to fucking do anything with for the company and buy it or do anything to improve it. Dixie was the stumbling block. And the only finally when she had no choice but to give it up when Anthem ended up. Having advanced to more money than they could pay back and they got it. So she has been the. The hang up in every transaction up until then to try to help the company prosper. So they bring her why because it was Dallas. Does she live there now? Was she down visted in Malmaw and Paw Paw? Or what they should have introduced them so they get booed to. I don't know that has anybody ever even seen a picture of them? I know they don't want to show their face now. But that it's a weird thing she called up and asked because she still she's a want to be real housewife of something. And she always wanted to be on TV. Did she call him up and offer to show up? I don't know who knows. Do you think she should have ended her promo with I'll see you at the bar later, boys? Yeah, who's going to pour the wine? It's a puzzling decision because she was not a popular figure. And no, everyone knew that she wasn't just an on air character. Everyone knew she actually owned the company and controlled its fortunes and misfortunes. You could blame Russo for so much. But at the end of the day, she was the one who said yes to everything. Yeah. I mean, it all goes back to her. And every mistake made some way. She was somewhat of a hindrance, even in times when Russo was not around. You know, you say people only remember the bubba red Dudley spot. I remember her holding on the Hulk Hogan's leg when he walked off the show. Never to come back. But yeah, it's a puzzling decision because there's no way she would get cheered. It'd be one thing if she just came out and waved or sat in Hollywood row with the boxer and the little guy and whatever else was there. In the fucking the old gardener that started something. I don't know what influencers all the random like here are some wrestling influencers. Look, we see lots of things that people send. I've never seen any of these people before in my life. I've never heard of any of the names. I don't know who they're. Yeah, they don't have a lot of sway over a lot of people. So they bring Dixie back. It is a cool moment that the fans get the boor. I mean, maybe it was for that. Maybe they realized we got to do something for the fans. Let's give them Dixie to boo. But you have to expect that. I mean, I don't think anyone reasonably could have thought, oh, they'll give a polite applause to. This woman, again, everyone's looking at AMC right now is this big success. I will get it the other way. This company has fallen so low that this is the big moment for them. And it didn't have to. Because they TNA was a lot more popular. Fifteen years ago than it is now. And and and to be honest with you, I think that's part of the problem they had in this show also in that they relied. Especially in the conversation between AJ Styles and Kazarian. And we got one more match we'll talk about in a minute. But. They they relied on everybody remembering what happened in TNA 15 years ago also back when it was more popular. Instead of bothering to remind us first, they had too many people and too much shit going on with two trying to explain too much or not explaining enough and just all over the place. And just this visually ridiculous nonsense instead of starting to try to ease us into the goddamn thing so we could be able to retain some of this. And some of it was shit you wouldn't want to ever think about again. So. But yeah, Dixie was not ever going to be popular by any means. And I don't know why they wanted to him. It gained nothing for him to bring her out. And it was kind of embarrassing that everybody booed her. So I don't. Yeah. You know what would have been better, Brian? Well, go ahead. What were you going to say? No, I would like to know what would be better, because I think maybe that's what I was going to talk about. Well, I know what would have been better is if if back in the old days when T&A was much more popular as a business and a brand than they are today, if they'd had a good partner to help them get to the next level, not Dixie Carter, not some want to be real housewife of Hendersonville, Tennessee, that was just always wanting to be on camera, but a partner that would give them a platform that would give them experience that would give them a heavy hitter in the business world to take them to the promised land and show them how to build their dream business. That's what they should have had. Do you agree with me there, Brian? I agree with you there, Brian. Well, in that case, then you'll agree with me that Shopify are the people that should have done that thing there that needed done because if if Jeff Jarrett had had Shopify in his corner, instead of having to go to some off brand public relations, Twit, why then Shopify would have given him all the tools that he needed to build his dream store. He could have chosen from hundreds of beautiful templates that customized and matched his brand. He could have used the built in AI tools to write the product descriptions and the booking instead of the tool that he was using to do the booking. And the marketing, he could have created the email and social campaigns that reached the customers instead of these off brand interns straight out of college that Dixie would hire because she could pay them cheap. And as T and a grew, that's right, more money coming in. See all the time as T and a grew, Brian, Shopify would have grown with it, whereas Dixie Carter just grew stale, tired and bored. Shopify grows like a giant mutant carbuncle on you. It's part of you. And you expand with it until you're an all encompassing star eating blob with a gravitational pull. And that's the way that you slowly creep over the landscape and take over the world. All with Shopify. I don't know. Again, Shopify is a great partner. We, of course, work with Shopify for Arcadia Vanguard dot com. And everyone out there, if you have a business and you're online, if you need easy commerce, easy checkout, get your products everywhere. Shopify is the partner for you. Professionally. Well, that's right. You can handle more orders, expand to new markets. Poland will fall. That's not that's not that's not that's not how it works. No, well, you'll be expanding and other people better get the heck out of the way because Shopify is a steamroller waiting to mow you down and take your money and give it to the people on their side. Wait, what? No, that's not how it works. 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I was not in any way looking forward to anything else, but I thought Santana and Frankie Kazarian. It's got to be better than what they've done so far. And it it was. But that's faint praise. But that's faint praise that both these guys they're in good shape. They look like athletes. They tried. They worked hard. Kazarian has plenty of experiences. Excellent in the ring. Santana ain't bad. But this show was snake bit. And I mean, they had I didn't pay a lot of attention to the match, to be honest with you, because I was just done with this thing. By that point, they did a bunch of modern style shit. But again, they looked more professional than everybody else on the show. But then. The goddamn finish just fell apart. It is the point where I was like, oh, geez, I feel I feel bad for these guys. They were going to do a deal where. Santana almost ran into the referee and they stopped and they were supposed to look at each other so that Kazarian could come with the dropkick. But they they botched that spot to where. He didn't really almost hit the referee and then the referee and they weren't in the right place. So the referee had to look at him like, why did you almost hit me? And he had his dinner and get in the right place while saying I didn't really. And then Kazarian went for the dropkick and. I don't was I guess Santana was supposed to move. Or maybe he was supposed to dropkick Santana and Santana would hit the referee. But I don't know. Kazarian goes for a dropkick. Santana doesn't move. Kazarian puts his foot right past. I mean, it was a great shot right past Santana's chest and kicked the referee. But from the camera shot, it looked like Kazarian kicked the Santana. And the referee flew off the other side of Santana. And they both fell on either side of him and he was just standing there. But I was like, what? So then now the referee's down. So then they start doing other stuff and suddenly. Kazarian gives Santana a Canadian destroyer and Santana just pops up to his feet without selling it and hits his big clothes line. And covers him one, two. And Kazarian kicks out and the referee counts three. And then they just went on and ignored that he had counted three because in a minute, the clothes line is going to be the finish. He counted three on the on the first clothes line. They just pop up. They go for another thing, which is supposed to be a roll up into some kind of ankle lock, but they just fell in a heap on that. And then Santana hit another clothes line that didn't look as good as the first one. One, two, three. New champion, even the new champion. But even them, it was a mess. And they had the referee should. I know a lot of people are going to say, we always say the referee to count not when the guy kicks out. He kicked out. The guy counted on the first clothes line instead of the second one. But when they were walking through this thing, I don't know why the second one was needed. They had it. It looked good. That was going to be the finish anyway. They should have just, but they had to pop up and do more. And that was the climax of one of the rottenest wrestling television programs that I have seen since we've been doing this. And that's why. I have to make. A public apology to A.E.W. as an entity and as a television show. I said that A.E.W. Was the worst television wrestling show with a budget on the air in the world. And I take that back. This has a budget of some description. And it made me want to see some A.E.W. So for the people who say I never apologize, never admit when I was wrong, I just did and I apologize to A.E.W. You're still rotten, but you're not anywhere near this rut. So I do apologize. We do get feedback often after a dynamite review. Well, why don't you give TNA a chance? Why don't you give NXT a chance? Why don't you give Ring of Honor, all these different things? We watched NXT and that was insufferable. NXT is it's kind of similar to T. It's like TNA if everyone was young and had a future. It's just you know, everyone may be going somewhere still, but it's still childish Vince McMahon style wrestling. When people tell you, oh, you didn't give the girls a fair chance and you watch it. It's like girls who have been taught how to go through the motions, but have no idea how to work, had no idea to react to a crowd. And it's not even their fault. I mean, it's just not the way they're taught, not the world they're exposed to. And they don't get the matches that other people would have gotten in the past. The bookings, childish gimmicks. You know, like, I don't know the gimmicks in the 80s as much complaining as people do about them. Guys were either committed enough to make it work or just work. You see, like the NXT fans that like the Tony D'Angelo stuff, I see this. I'm like, this is the silliest gimmick I've ever seen. Sillier than anything, sillier than outback Jack. This is just silly. But it's like that everywhere. I said it's an infection everywhere. It's different degrees of Vince McMahon style television. Vince McMahon style commentary. Vince McMahon's humor. Vince McMahon style segments. AEW feels more lively because everyone just does whatever the fuck they want. And when you watch a show that's not like that, you kind of do. I don't know if I appreciate it's the right word, but you. Man, you appreciate it a little more. I'll say whatever you want to say about AEW. AEW is worlds better than TNA. And for every fucking person that gets in touch and says TNA is better than AEW, you should give it a chance. It's not. It's not the TV show isn't better. The roster isn't better. Not that they don't have some talent on that roster. It's nice to see Mike Santana getting a chance because he never got that name, W. But AEW dynamite is better than TNA impact. Every week, I'm sure, because this was a bad show. And this was their big debut. You would think this would be the show that, you know, the raw after WrestleMania has to be good. At least someone new will come out. Do you think did they try too hard? Is it not normally like this or are we just again, trying to give them every time that somebody says, oh, watch this promotion if we watch it. And it's a crummy show where it's just our timing. Well, you know, of all the different wrestling companies out there that do wrestling or wrestling, they either do wrestling TV on TV or on the Internet, even. No one just says, how can we do this so that it's serious? How can we do this so the commentators have credibility? How can we do this so that even if we have extraordinary characters that you don't normally meet in everyday life? We're not telling you they're bullshit before you ever even see them. They're committed to what they're doing. The booking makes sense. We have good guys against bad guys. We have logical fucking progressions of stipulations and matches. We concentrate on who we want to get over and who we just want on the card because we have that plan for the next three to six months before we start. Things like that. Precisely. Instead, we get everyone doing what WWE does. You come on your entrance while you do your special pose, like you're on a fucking runway or something. And then you walk to the ring. The other person does that. No one has a fucking hometown or whatever. Whatever WWE does, everyone else will copy. The commentators are so disingenuous, you don't believe anything they're saying. They just seem like they're performing as commentators. And the booking and just everything, the Ash by Elegant segment. What the fuck was that? They're little hats, the little hats they wore. And I appreciate the best of women's wrestling. And there are women's wrestlers who I say good things about before they've really done much. Everyone's like, oh, you must think they're good looking. No, I actually think they have talent. But besides all that, there's way too much fucking women's wrestling on American Wrestling TV. There's never been a sign that there's a demand that meets. The quantity that's being put out there, just nonstop segments in women's wrestling. Give them their own show. Treat it well. Book it well. Put money behind it. But don't flood every American Wrestling TV show with women's matches. There's no demand. I demand something. What's that? I demand they do what you just said because I'm sick. I'm sick. I'm fed up, Brian. If I only had time. Imagine what Thunderbolt would say. But you know, that's the thing. Whenever we talk about. Mid-South or Mid-Atlantic or Florida. You know, you're talking about Bill Watts and Boyd Pierce. You're talking about Bob Cottle and even David Crockett. Tell my Gordon Sully. No one. Condescended you like no one talked down to you. It never felt like that. And the host of the show. And I used the word host. Say with David Crockett, you could feel like he was talking up to you. I fuck with David. I like David. But they were they were hosts. Like they were the glue of the entire show. They held the microphones for the interviews. They explained what happened. They didn't go usually over the top for baby faces or heels, even if they call that heels when they did dastardly things. But you don't have that. You just have a bunch of screaming heads doing WWE style commentary. And none of these shows connect. One of these shows could be a serious wrestling show. If everyone's doing the same kind of adults acting like they're trying out for the high school play wrestling stuff, wrestling scene skits. Someone go the other way because there is a demand. But whatever, this show sucked. TNA sucks for everyone who says TNA is better than A.W. A.W. kicks TNA's ass. Oh, now wait, you're turning on our principles even here. But well, I will say, but goddamn, TNA or I'm sorry, A.W. kicking TNA's ass is like a paraplegic taking advantage of an embryo, isn't it? No, Tony has little periods where it happens. And we'll see what happens now in terms of the talent they have and what they're going to be able to have access to going forward. But it just never is outright stale. And TNA felt stale. It felt like it had been out on the counter too long. Was that the smell that I was detecting? Wafting through the breeze? A.W. I have no idea what's going to end up on my plate. I have no, I have no idea what I'm going to eat. I have no idea how I'm going to get home. With TNA, it's it's it's not good. You'd rather go on a hunger strike. Yeah, not good. Well, Brian, what is good before we go any further in the Arcadian Vanguard Network World of Classic Wrestling podcast this week that we can listen to as a palate cleanser. That's right. 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And of course, the 605 super podcast. That's a new one. I'm losing my voice. That's kind of how I sound at the moment. Go through the archive 605 pod.com. Wherever you find your favorite podcast, my voice really is going. The mother ship. The mother ship. All right. Well, actually where I usually say I'm dreading this now, it's like, well, this, this may pick us up a little bit to play us out, Johnny. It'll take us up a little bit with AEW is not looking. I can't actually remember after the last debacle we just talked about the TNA thing. I can't remember what happened. I have my notes here. I'll refresh myself. So I'm in the table. You're punching the table. Well, I'm just, I'm goddamn vehement about this. I don't remember. Can I say something about the dynamite? You don't remember before we start this review that you'll recall once we start going through your notes and I'm sure it won't be as pleasant as you think. It just, it seemed like it wasn't as brutal an experience, but go ahead. I love the way dynamite looked this week. It was a theater. So as opposed to being in an arena where you have like, you know, an empty side because you're not selling those seeds and that's the camera side. Like AMC and TNA showed us. Yeah. Well, this one, you know, there was an empty side necessitated by the fact that it's a theater. So everyone was on the one side and it made the crowd look great. It looked like it went back endlessly. Yes. And the way it was lit. I love the way dynamite looked this week. I would, I would love them to have room and something like this to put a few seats on the other side of instead of just having the ring right up against the screen and everything, but I've a small complaint. But I agree with you that it looked expansive and massive. They were in Phoenix and it's a theater, but I didn't jot down the name of the place. They had what they only had like 3,000 people, like usual. But it looked massive in that respect. How what do they usually put in that fucking theater in Phoenix? In CinemaScope, I don't know. I don't know what they do there, but it looked great. Yes. And unlike. TNA, which had half a building's crowd and showed us both sides when only the crowd was only on one side, they had a crowd on one side and it looked great. And it just I don't have any idea of, you know, that big of a theater in Phoenix. I wonder what normally plays there. Possibly they have a local drama society that's very popular. How the West was one. But anyway, it did look good and again, made it look like a thing without. They didn't have to shoot around empty seats because they only had the theater setting rather than an entire arena. So that was it looked great. A plus. It looked great and it looked different. You don't see that look. You'll never see that look from WWE more than likely. Maybe from a TNA, but A.W. If they can run theaters and get that look, that may be something to look towards because then the argument about, well, there's no one on the other side. It doesn't even matter anymore because there is no other side. Yeah. And it looked great. I thought it was great. But here the problem is if they're going to run buildings like this. They might better, I don't know, produce their matches or walk through them or tell the guys don't fight in the building in the crowd because it's so dark. You can't see what's going on. That their own self-inflicted wounds like TNAs was was showing the empty seats was as soon as they start to first match Darby and Pac and, you know, Darby can't help himself, but Darby jump starts it. With a dive to the floor during the introductions, they went over the rail. They fought up into the crowd and all the way to the back of the building and they had no lights. Did they not know they were going there? Did they just, oh, shit, we'll just fight to the back of the building on live television. Because if they knew they were going, why didn't they light it? And if it wasn't lit and they didn't know they were going, why were they allowed to go there? All of those questions, none of those answers. We don't know. I mean, it's A.W. So the lack of production wouldn't be surprising, but you would be kind of surprised at the opening match. With Darby, that they wouldn't know they were going to do something like that. I don't have an answer for you. Well, anyway, so they fight in the back of the building in the dark. They go back to ringside, still didn't get in the ring. Pac belly to belly overhead. Suplex Darby onto the sharp edges of the steel stairs. And so they fought for five minutes, did that move, then rolled in the ring and the referee rang the bell start to match. That was the first big laugh of the night for me when the bell rang after all of that on the floor and all the beatings and everything that happened when the bell rang I left. And then the hospitalization angle and it OK, he says he's all right. So anyway, I was done at that point. That's why, you know, the main event on this show is M.J.F. and Bandito, and I do have a variety of thoughts, but I was, you know, more or less suffering through much of the rest of this. But they went 10 minutes. After that, and then. Bumped the referee had a run in and then Darby put the chair on Pac's leg action. He put it on the wrong leg first and Pac had to say, sweet, wrong leg, switch it. That's right. And then Pac lays there, not moving so that Darby can climb up on a top rope and cough and drop the chair, which one would think there's another hospitalization angle. That's the end of it. But no, then. He shoved the chair out of the ring and got a sharpshooter and the referee revived and saw Pac tapping out. Why? They can't. The guys. Darby Allen, again, has the. Unique, weird charisma. But he just can't be trusted with any kind of position because you never know what stupid shit he's going to do, and he might paralyze himself at any minute. And at this point, it's just taken away from. I don't know what it's taken away from, but nothing can hurt this little. Freak. So why should anybody else sell anything? I have it at this point, it's just it's it's comedy. Well, beyond the selling aspect of it, in terms of the actual injury part of it, that's the thing that kind of pulls you into the Darby matches, but it's also the thing that makes you wince and look away and not want to see any more of the Darby matches. There's always a lot. I winced and look away before he does the horrible bumps. There's always at least one horrible bump. I mean, when was the last time you saw Darby and there wasn't one? Oh, shit. Moment. And I don't mean like in like a big like, oh, it's WrestleMania. Oh, shit. I mean, like. Oh, he's oh, shit. He's face fucked up. Yeah. And it happened with the stairs here. That was bad. That would take a bad idea. Who pitched that? I know. Pitched the idea. Who said it? Yeah, who said we should do this? Why did they do that? Again, just on the chance something goes wrong and his neck snaps. It's not. Do they tell anybody beforehand that they're going to do some of these things? And if so, do they then listen when Tony could tell them? I don't know whether anybody else has the. Power around there to tell them that they're stupid and take that out. In a normal company, it would be whoever the producer was. But Tony could tell them, what are you fucking doing? Just you're stupid. But Tony's the same. He's got live action action figures. It's to me when I was 11, using the fucking. Viking warrior and the goddamn G.I. Joe with Kung Fu grip to have wrestling matches. Because they didn't have action figures. He's got live action figures. And he thinks that. All of his can do the same things all of mine could do. So that's why the G.I. Joe's of the 80s were the best, because they could do everything. They can literally lock up and you start doing every move and they're still the best. You know, the other issue is maybe best exemplified by the death riders, although it's a overall thing with A.W., especially as the heel stables have grown. I think the Callas family has 14 members now. A.W. fans. Grown at a run in like no other wrestling fan ever. And you know, that is something to be said that A.W. fans expect quality wrestling, quality matches. Why? You know what I'm saying? Why would you? Why would you expect it after all this time? Why suddenly would they start doing that now? They expect work rate. So there you go. And they were spoiled the last or the first few years with the lack of run ins and the lack of ref bumps. But the way the fans groaned when the death riders got involved, that was telling. It's telling that that's how the A.W. fans react to this stuff and they should cut down on it. It can't be every death riders match they run in. You see, that's that's the problem is you know, you see, that's that's the problem is you can't never have run ins, never have disqualifications, never have interference, never. You can't never have that. And you also can't have it all a fuck in time. And they've gone from one extreme to the other and shit to bed in both places. But nevertheless, you say to yourself, you say after an opening match like that, maybe. Maybe we can have one of the big top stars of A.W. come in and save the day and give a professional performance and. Up next was. Hang nail Adam Page against Brian Keith. And of course, this is a Samoa Joe's told Brian Keith fuck up Adam Payton, blah, blah, blah. The bell rang and they botched the first spot. Big Bill still with Brian Keith. For I guess for what reason I have no idea. Yeah, why wouldn't Samoa Joe hire him? We've got and we've forgotten about him with somebody that could actually do something somewhere it looks like, but not there. But anyway. Big Bill is on the apron and Page is staring at him and Brian Keith is going to run from behind to clothesline. Adam Page in the back of the head, but Adam Page is going to duck and I bet you. That Brian Keith was going to continue on a couple feet and run into old Big Bill. And then they were going to start to match. But somehow when Brian Keith ran with the clothesline and Adam Page ducked being over to duck because Keith is coming from behind. Brian Keith tripped and fell down over Adam Page's body. Did you see that? Of course I saw that. Yes. And then Big Bill stood there and looked at both of them and just jumped down on the floor. And the match was on. How could he have tripped and fallen over a man that just been over? So. They went 10 minutes. Adam Page is supposed to be the big baby face, big main event star just trying to win the world title and it takes him 10 minutes to beat this fucking fellow. And Bill interfered and swerve came down and glommed him and then Page hit the buckshot 123. And then. Any comments on this match before we go into this next soliloquy? I mean the match was what it was. We haven't seen Brian Keith or Big Bill in forever. I guess we could say this one final time now that it looks like he may do something else. Did Chris Jericho do anything to help these two guys? Oh Jesus. They were tied to Chris Jericho. Did it elevate them? Are they seen better off today than they were when Big Bill was teaming up with Ricky Starks? I don't think so. Why wouldn't Samoa Joe hire Big Bill to be the bounty hunter? Even though Brian Keith's nickname is the bounty hunter, I get it, but Big Bill is like 7 feet fucking tall. Why wouldn't you hire him yourself jacked up? And secondly, you know, it's one thing for MJF or, you know, an MJF type character to hire a bounty hunter to stop Adam Page. Why Samoa Joe? Why does Samoa Joe? It doesn't fit. I don't think. Well, it because they had to have the match and there has to be an angle behind the match. So they can go 10 minutes and have interference and fucking. Yeah. Anyway, then Paige got to microphone and growled the same promo and then swerve. Cut a promo on MJF says we're coming after you and then music played and it was Kenny. The return of our friend twinkle toes McFinger bang. He has arrived and his doucheyness is here. And he did a long. It seemed long. I don't know how long it was. The promo, the phone sex voice, the breathiness, he's going for the belt to he's going to have to beat a few people. It's all it's all their baby faces. And they're all older baby faces appear to be idiots. Because and one of these guys, at least at one point, didn't they hospitalize Kenny and one of these guys, the one of the people that hospitalize Kenny that he never gets even for. I know swerve burn pages house down or page birds. All that other shit. Well, Paige and Kenny were partners and then that was when Paige's alcoholism really got out of hand and it really hurt their friendship, I believe. There you go. Was he laid up by the callous family? I'm not sure, actually. Now that you say this, I don't remember. I believe he was at one point. Whoever was in the callous family at that point. Yeah, because half the members of the callous family at that point are probably gone. It's replaced by 20 other guys. All their baby faces are looking sideways at each other and having an issue with each other because they all want the world title. And all their heels are arguing with each other later on in show because they want the world title. So the baby faces are usually only mad at baby faces and the heels are usually only mad at heels and they wonder why nobody gets over around here. So Paige said, may the best man win and he left and swerve stared at Kenny and he left. And then Don and his fallist family came out and I'm like, what the Jesus Christ. And then he cut a promo on Kenny and challenged him for a match with Josh Alexander. And Kenny again meandered around at a Mealy Mouse milk toast way to accept the match. Okay, I'll face him tonight. And then Don said no next week. And I'm like Jesus Christ, nobody will care about that. At least they've got him up a little bit here. And then the heels left and Kenny went on more like he was talking in his sleep and then blew the kisses and bid us adieu and good night and good luck and bang bang. What good God this nobody would stop and it never ended. Am I correct in this? You are correct in this. Yes. So, again, this it's just it's the same bunch of people just arguing with random people all the time. But at least they didn't show the empty seats. Did you like the way that they settled our discussion on whether MGF should use old Jonathan Cruz as his stooge or flunky or whatever. Did like the way they put that out of its misery. How disappointing was this? Not that I expected this guy to be, you know, the next Count Rossi or anything. But that's a deep cut. He's been good in his role. It's been thank you very much. He's been good in his role. We literally were just talking about the idea of him being more involved with MJF being maybe his valet. This guy got away with dressing like Abraham Lincoln in Mexico. And then they immediately killed all of that. For no reason. I mean, I don't think it helps anyone here. But why would they kill all that like that? I don't segment. I don't have any idea. But Brody King comes out and Cruz is out there in street clothes and he just beats him up. And beats him in some kind of little match there. But again, why do the in week two? And why not at least get something out of it by having MJF sacrificing or whatever. But he's done now. It's meaningless now. MJF, if they wanted to put any interest in this, MJF should be one that abused him. And he should interfere on MJF's behalf or try to do good things for MJF, but any retribution that comes out. And then when he comes back on him should have been because MJF sacrificed him to get out of the way of harm. And then over a period of time, the people would have got behind this guy to see want him to break free. But now that they just beat him up and fucking stood on him and wiped their feet on him, who gives a shit? This was a bad move because you actually had a character that was at least a little bit interesting that you had time to do something with and ten steps back here. Besides that, what are your thoughts on the push that it seems they're giving Brody King? They've had a few videos on TV of him lately. They're actually doing vignettes. What do you think of him getting a pusher? I mean, if he had, he looks like he's giant, but he looks like shit. But if he had some type of gimmick where he was supposed to look like shit, that would, you know, it wouldn't be bad. He can do some stuff, but he's always in the middle of the children to where and the thing with Brody Do or whatever. I guess if they're using Bandido more as a single now, maybe they're going to break Brody King free. And remember, he was a part of the what they call them Malachi Black and his spooky folk. Yes. When did Buddy get hurt? Was it a year ago at the Australia show? Yeah. It's a year. Christ, I guess. Can it be she donate him a leg? But anyway, again, with some gimmick and some type of proper sustained push in that company, at least he does look different. You might could do something with him, but I think he's he's kind of like Luchasaurus and that he's just a big dumb tattooed fuck that does moves because he can do them and doesn't understand why. But maybe he can break that. Impression I have of him. You know what I think is a boring trope. And it's not even him. It's a lot of guys, but it's him too. The big guys that have to do some version of Huff Huff or parking. Yeah, just any version of that stop. Please stop. Yeah. Well, I mean, Brody is half his name. So it's it's obvious there's kind of a tribute homage going on there. And Moon Dog King is part of his name, I guess, too. So. Yes. So he should bark and chew on a bone. But anyway, that will see what happens, but I don't know why that they unless maybe John Cruz is about to be deported. And they saw we got to finish you up. Because they finished him up. All right. Did you love the the recess match? Brian, would all the kids get out of class and get to go out in the. In the grounds and play on the swings and the slide and the. The balance beam and the parallel bar and all that stuff they do. The four team. Eight man winners are number one contenders to the tag team title match match. Let's say we had. And there's a new wrinkle in this. We have all the children, the hardly boys, Hong Kong, Fooie and Kevin Knight. Ricochet Stooges and now. Fat ass Davis and his brand new friend Jake Doyle have been added to the mix. And. I know it's going to be hard for you to believe folks, but the Hardy boys. Hardy the hardly boys they wish they still had the hardy. The hardly boys jump started this one with two dives out of the ring. Because Darby could only do one. So they will 30 minutes later will goddamn do two. It is again, and it's it was the kids playing for 15 minutes. But. Remember, I said Davis has a really good pile driver. He's actually winning with it now. He beat. They're still beating Kevin Knight every time that they miss a chance to beat the shit out of fucking spitball and pin him in the middle of the ring. Of a fucking angel in wrestling heaven loses its wings or some shit. But at least Davis is winning now with his pile driver that I guess looks so good because of his giant fucking ass. Your thoughts on his giant ass. I have no comments on his ass. You know, this. It's a pattern with the young bucks now and they can't escape it at this point, obviously, but every match they do is like a fucking Dave Meltzer Slambery match. It's the same kind of shit they were doing 10 years ago. They're doing it now to smaller reactions and. You know, the video went around. People highlighted it, the docy dough segment where speedball and the but they were all doing everything in sync with each other because that's the way any kind of thing would ever happen. Yeah, but you've seen that happen multiple times with bucks matches. Their layouts are lazy at this point and boring. And there's nothing special for them to do. This match was a was an eight man match with lots of high spots and it was nothing but run of the mill and it didn't stand out. And I don't think anyone's going to remember it tomorrow and. You know, maybe a jet speed in the bucks or a natural opponent for the rascals. Who are coming in rascals versus young bucks and Hong Kong Fui. That may be a dream match for virgins all over the place. Well, but it wasn't over because now that Davis and Doyle have won this thing and they're the number one contenders. FTR came out. And had a big face off with Davis and Doyle and it got a big fight. And they're fighting and securities running out and it's going on and it's heels mad at other heels and the people were not giving a shit. It was. And if you're having a big four way fight with security, security pulling you apart and the people are just. Bleh. Don't do any more of it, but they did a lot of it and. Why do we want to see FTR with their Mag comedy manager and a wheelchair against Davis and Doyle with their comedy manager that wears no socks. That's. There isn't a demand for that at all. And that's what the remark I made earlier. The baby faces are all mad at the other baby faces and the heels are fighting the heels over the top titles. Why do they not understand that people don't give a shit about that? Because why would they? Is there anything they could do, Jim? To fix this tag team division. I mean, they've got tag teams there, but nothing ever gets going. FTR won the belts back. What have they done since the fans care less about FTR now than they've ever done since the fans care less about FTR now than at any other point in their history in AEW. They just came out there to go after the heels who are clearly established as the heels. There's no misconception there. So two heel teams went at it with each other at edge has to come back at some point. Christian has to come back. You would think with edge to get FTR, but it's not going to mean anything. It's not going to mean anything. How about you? Yeah. I forgot they still haven't got even for FTR assaulting Beth Phoenix. Did Christian get hurt too? Or did they do an angle or I have no memory of how he left TV or where he went. He's a star. Do you have any idea where he is or what? Hold on now. Remember, Edge told him when he was packing his bag, wasn't it Christian that he told I got to go home. I got to be with Beth or whatever. Yeah. So Christian said, well, fuck, I'm not going to take a chance to against one of getting even with these guys that just assaulted my best friend's fucking wife. So I'll just hang out and let Tony send me a check. I guess they finally did the angle where Christian and Edge had to go. They had already blown it with them having a match earlier because they rushed to that and there was no feud and it didn't have any importance. At least there was a little bit of something left for them to make up. They do the big angle. Edge is gone and Christian's gone. Nothing else happens again. I mean, it doesn't make any sense. But you asked me to revamp the tag team division. Again, you have the bucks. Whatever we say about them, they are a tag team. I'm just on my actual tag teams. Yes, but I mean, my God, if human beings could go stale like bread, you'd have to eat the bucks in the rain. They're way past stale. And I mean, it's the same. They have to have one of their other childish teams to work with because they had the hurt syndicate in the company that could have built the tag team division around them. But somehow or another, they had to lose the belt so it could go back into the friends pool for more of the recess matches. Somehow I can't even remember now what happened there. But the bucks are a non-entity. FTR was the most talented in-ring team. And they had those great matches with the briskos and with gin and juice and blah, blah, blah. But they've been just rendered meaningless. And now it just, people say Dax is whiny on the internet and they do nothing and they have a comedy manager and it's just, it's over. They would have to go away for a long time somewhere. So that ain't gonna, they can have matches. I'm not saying they could never have another good match, but it ain't gonna mean anything. The hurt syndicate is over, but now I guess Lashley's hurt. And they fucked around and made Shelton do goofy things like going competitive one-on-one with fucking spitball. But they had something going there with the tag team division. I'm trying to think of it. While we've talked about it, I'm sorry, but they need to face somehow this indie wrestling minded bubble of individuals needs to face the fact that any regular wrestling fan that ever looked at Mike Bailey would blow snot laughing. It's just, it's comedy. It's comedy fucking deal. And he's not a baby face and you could probably make him a midcard heel. If his job was to come out and be himself and let people kick the shit out of him so the fans would cheer. But otherwise this is strictly one of these fucking indie things like pockets and the legless boy or whatever. Other tag teams, the gun boys had potential, but one of them and all of both of them have been gone now. One of them backs, one of them still gone. Jen and Juice have potential. Juice now has the least marketable look he could have and Jen is gone, injured. He'll be back at some point to come back with another awful promo and then he'll get hurt again and disappear again. The conglomeration must have some tag team in their mix. Well, but they, if Mark Brisk goes in and he needs to get out of it and nobody else is in it is worth a shit. Here's a bigger question. With the Rascals coming in and all of these groups, the Bucks have lots of friends, Callus has 20 people in his group. Do you think Tony will introduce, I don't know what you would call it, the quadruple title? Oh, good God. Do you think Tony, do you think Tony could introduce a tag title for four man teams? Jase, edit that out. No. Edit that out. You're going to give him an idea and we've got to watch it. Do you think he's going to do this? Do you think we will see four man tag team championships within the next 18 months? Now that you've said that, I don't think it'll take that long. Within the next 18 months, Tony Khan may be hooked up intravenously to some kind of solution. The fucking pressure he's going to have on him. But and you said the Rascals, the Rascals, where have the Rascals been? What shows were these folks on? Did they ever, they were in NXT at one point, did they ever make the main roster? You may be confused because before they were the Rascals, they were called our gang. Oh, okay. It's sort of like the East Side Kids to Barry boys. No, Wesley. Remember, they signed Wesley and his partner. I forget which one was his partner. Then his partners, like ex-wife or ex-girlfriend put out photos of him dressed like Hitler. No, he had a Hitler mustache doing a sig high also. WWE got rid of him quick. And then some other people came in to join, I believe the Rascals and they've been between TNA and NXT. So to have a little bit of exposure. And that's enough for me again. Again, that's this. They made this announcement like we've signed all four of the Rascals. Like we got all four of the Beatles. Ringo agreed to work for 75%. It's they've been on NXT a while back and TNA a while back and they there's four of them, which is in this group of four. Is one guy six foot three and 240 pounds. And the other ones are five foot seven and 190 because then you might be able to make a star out of one of them because otherwise ball forum or same fucking size with the prison tattoos of the two we know about. Then you've just you've just brought in a bunch of fucking miscellaneous munchkins. Well, we shall see what happens with the tag team division as well as the trio. Who has the trios titles now? I don't ring of honor or a W the A. W. ones because it was the ops with powerhouse Hobbs. They lost them though, right? I don't know. Well, we have tag titles, trios titles and we'll see what else Tony Khan. You know what? Look, look that up. I'll I tell you what, I will. I'll bet you that that you can't look up and find who the A. W. six man trio tag team champions are. The current champions. Wow, there's been 10 different champions. The current champions. Wow, I had no idea that this many people held the title. They wanted on collision on the 14th. So I'm literally on powerhouse Hobbs is last night, apparently. It is the team of dead eye velocity. Hangman Adam Page, speedball, Mike Bailey and Kevin Knight. Oh my God. So now they've got one of their alleged main event baby faces teaming up with this fucking putrid piece of shit. And they've put undercard belts on Adam Page. What the f. Hobbs was nice enough to do a job on his way out. If he did. And they didn't. I'm assuming say again. If he did the job, I don't know what the result of the man to have a one. Maybe the beach. Well, but I mean, he was he was there. He showed up. Yeah. So this is what you do. When they introduced the trio's titles, a lot of us said these will be meaningless titles. And that's exactly what they've been. And it's actually, I would argue, a negative title because we've seen too many times where a champion, whether it's Samoa Joe or whoever. Comes out with a title that's a mainstream title, a world title. And they have a six man title with them. It just takes down the world title. It doesn't do anything to lift up the six man title, which is meaningless. And remember when. Out of Mick Foley or Steve Austin, back in the Attitude era was put into six man's with his partners, Kai and Ty. So they became Kai and Mick. I don't remember this Austin tie. And they won the six man belts. You know what, you ought to just pick, say what three titles. For example, what three titles is spitball Bailey going to win in AEW next week? I wonder would they take that with our friends at prize picks. 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Did he grow up as a poor teenager and he stole food from the markets to support his family. And or the neighborhood kids or a school and that's what they called him the bandido or you see what I'm saying here. Who is this fucking guy. Well, yeah, I don't know how much you have to do that versus just use him well they did some vignettes that they shot apparently here in New Jersey at some old West town but that didn't help. That's what I'm saying. That's what I said before is we got. We got clowny. Of him fast drawing the gun fighters at fucking guntown mountain. Instead of. Who is this guy. What is his life story that we want him to have. How are we going to merchandise him. How are we going to present him. As as Finkel used to say what's his motivation. So, that's the the problem is with bandido as a single star of any consequence in the United States. If he can't talk. He's got to have more clearly defined story and personality and gimmick and the ways that they can sell him as a person rather than just Oh wow he does all kinds of. Cool moves because all the rest of them do that too. And he's also the problem is is that the best guy that I ever saw do lucha Libre wrestling moves and maneuvers with American wrestlers was Hector Guerrero. Because he did this shit to the guys and he did it around them, but they didn't jump in and start doing it with him. And that's what made a lot of the Hispanic guys stand out in the territories as their style was different. And they were exciting and they were usually baby faces. Unless it was like an old fucking crusty Gordman and Goliath, you know, blah, blah, blah. But when bandido's got to do his shit. That's because he can't talk and you know he needs to perform in the ring. But when the guys start doing his shit with him. Does it look right for him Jeff to be doing lucha? Does it look right? Does it look right? Does it look like anything he would want to do if it was up to him? Possibly not. For the spinning heads. He's good at it. He's good at it, but it doesn't look like he can do it. He can do it. But does it look like shit that he would do? On purpose. If this was if he was really doing only shit that he would choose to do, would he, MJF, choose to do any of that shit? Probably not. If he was working with Adam Page, we may not see that stuff. Okay, so the point is bandido should be different and should be as a baby face, should be exciting in the high-risk moves and the flying and all that stuff. But it actually to me, it just makes it look bleh, hokey and also unfortunately brings MJF down when he's doing the choreographed shit that is clearly set up, predetermined, blah, blah, blah. MJF is so good at at psychology of a match and it being a heal and there's a clear heal and face here. But it, it, the unfortunate part is that bandido cannot have MJF's match. He can't have a regular pro wrestling match because as I'll tell you here to second is basic suck. But bandido also relies on the American guys to do his shit with him because it's so complicated rather than having the flashy shit that he can do to other people that they're confounded and don't have a counter and fucking surprised and flummoxed to buy and he, it's all the impression is on the baby face rather than the heal just suddenly breaks out into goddamn floor exercise gymnastics. Do you see what I'm saying? I do. So, but MJF grabs a headlock. Bandido is going to shoot him off for a shoulder tackle band, bandido not only doesn't back him up, he doesn't even fucking lean back and rare. He just shoves him one handed and MJF has to run from scratch to hit the ropes. That's what I'm talking about with the basics. Bandido can't have a credible realistic looking American style pro wrestling match because as with most of the lucha guys these days, most of the American guys these days, it basic suck. But yet he can put all this effort into the goddamn cart wheels and roundoffs and everything that go on endlessly but that's just another thing. When you've already made the shit look phony and that's not like it's making it look more like the UFC. And there's a timing thing they milk more apparently these days in Mexico because at one point, Bandido does the thing where he points at the guy's head like he's going to shoot him in the head which also in today's climate may not have anything to do for the kids but he won't stop pointing they never stop it's like the fucking which one was the was it Penta that took the glove off and the healer the baby fate no the healer is supposed to stand there and wait till this fucking goof takes his glove off and does all of these gyrations again. It's just it's a different at least at one point MJF put emotion in and some oomph in the middle of one of the lucha spots when he foiled something and yelled dumb ass. And at least because else wise it's the the lucha guys together just go through the thing by rote at least MJF is able to put some facial expression and some personality into it. But then MJF starts getting the heat. And he starts working bandido's left arm. Which again, how much simpler can you get but bandido doesn't know how to sell and fight from underneath. When he fires up he'll do seven or eight little things instead of one or two for boom boom and he spoils the heat because now he's just making a little mini comeback and and at one point he made a little mini comeback and did the Macarena and a flip and then remember that his left arm hurt. It's not like he you you can see when Ricky steamboat sells and I guess you can see his face because he's not wearing a mask but you can see or Ricky Morton or any of the classic baby faces you could see some distress in their body and when they're fighting back they're still they're worn down but they're they're trying valiantly to fight but they're weakened it's not like okay I pop up I do these three things and he's not me again. This type of shit to get over on a larger level in this country MJF would keep going back to the arm but then at points did you see this when bandido would fight back sometimes he's selling the arm but then he'd fight back and do some shit and he's fine and then he'd remember to sell the arm. And it also here's a programming note for them they didn't shit the bed as bad as T&A did but when they have because they had the setup they had here was a ramp going to the ring and was at the same level as the apron on the side of the entrance way so having a handheld camera stand on the apron and shoot over the top rope looks like a cool up close shot except it makes everybody look three feet tall and all the bumps look small because the camera is looking down on them when the camera is on the floor looking up the backdrop looks bigger the suplex looks bigger anyhow bandido makes comeback hits a big dive MJF tries to avoid the second win by going to the other side of the rail bandido gets on the top rope and dives off over the rail into the crowd his arm was wonderful but they get back in the ring MJF hits a move on the arm seconds later bandido leaps to the top rope and hits a corkscrew cross body I was figuring MJF was trying to remind him hey you know your arm you sell that MJF is trying as best he can here I'm not trying to downgrade the whole thing but I just I think bandido may have been best in a tag team situation where he could just do some snazzy looking stuff because as a single Jesus and whoever he's working with has to assume that position for his goofy looking little there is no reason for the German suplex to be executed like that except that he can do that little flip but it's you if you have to stand there in the I'm about to be but fuck position and support him while he does the whole thing it's just so anyway and he tried that MJF held on bandido got lost on a spot MJF went for the heat seeker and hit a cutter and bandido hit a shooting star and got a two count they were MJF assumed the position again but landed on his feet I know he can do a back flip and that was a pretty cool spot but again it just because you can cut your ear off doesn't mean your van go I don't know why MJF is suddenly the human cannonball what got the people more than anything was the quick roll ups when they started doing the fucking jack knife and the small pack and the roll up and a blah blah blah that was a nice little spot that gets everybody going and then at some point bandido hit a go to sleep and MJF assumed the position again and bandido hit the German and they both sold bandido cover got a two count and then MJF spun into the arm bar and then got the label lock and bandido passed out Brian is as MJF defended the title since he won it I'm trying to think I don't think so off the top of my head I don't think so because he won it at the end of the year and okay last week was the promo segment I think this may be the first defense so he wins his first title defense by out wrestling the baby face and fucking not choking him out but passing him out how much heat did that get is MJF supposed to be a heal why wouldn't he be since he's got this is whole thing but I know that I'm so confused it would seem like he just he was a non entity in the fucking well and he's a guy he's a heal because he's about to kick the shit out of the guy there's more to this story as there always is but he was a non entity in the four way where he just pretty much stole the thing and everybody else you know was featured and so in his first defense which is on television not even pay per view wouldn't this be the time for him and bandido is fairly popular and been used in this environment as a name quite fucking not only beating but fucking and beating and get your fucking hand raised with your while you're standing up but instead MJF turned around and was selling in the corner after bandido had passed out because the heal out wrestled a baby face and then MJF got the microphone and put him over say you know what they said you're going to be a world champion and I agree you're going to be a world champion and a w one of these days so it means I have to do this and then he hits him with the belt and gets heat on him and goes to pop the hood and Brody King comes out spoil things and I get apparently they're going to have MJF interact with Brody King in some kind of way but the point is wouldn't it to beat this fucking guy is your new world champion and the guy that still gets more response from the people and reaction and has more logical matches when he has people that can follow goddamn basic principles and he again by the skin of his teeth beats this guy and that beats him clean. Sorry. I did it. I just I'm confused. Again I can't. I'm not the soothsayer who could explain Tony's booking or philosophy behind these things. Obviously they want to keep MJF busy. Wow Kenny Omega has to go through Adam Page and swerve until they get ready for that because all those three they're going to kind of have to go through each other. So while that's happening MJF has to do something. Beat Bandito here. Frey W maybe they consider that clean the way it went down. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Why do you beat if they like Bandito and they want to use him as baby face. Why does the heel beat him clean and if MJF is the world champion and he's supposed to get some heat. Why didn't he fuck him and beat him convincingly. And obviously they're setting him up now it would appear for Brody King. I don't know if that's just going to be another one and done they've been building up Brody King for a few weeks now. I think the end game is still get MJF in there with Kenny Omega and unfortunately everyone has to do a bunch of stuff until we're ready for that which will probably not be until the late spring I would imagine maybe summer. Oh Jesus Christ. Nice but MJF versus Brody King will be worlds better than this. Really. I will say of course worlds better because number one Brody King's first language is English so they can call shit on the fly. And secondly I would assume Brody King was trained in the United States. So he's probably even if he over does it sometimes with the big man do it a little man stuff he's still it's the same product if if MJF is calling it and featuring the greatest hits of Brody King's repertoire. And MJF leads the psychology of the thing. I will probably like it but I would but it would be worlds better than what this was because MJF's having to work around the guy who has to he has to do some a bandido shit. And he has to he can't control bandidos timing. But I think this MJF and Brody King will be much better. And one last question about all this considering what happened earlier in the night. Would it have had more impact if John Cruz was somehow at ringside for MJF and Brody King got his hands on him after this as opposed to just beat him earlier and it almost was detached from all this. If boom boom boom. Bandido is making a comeback on MJF and they've had whatever match they're going to have. And Jonathan Cruz was at ringside. And Bandido's little flippy suplex is already not worked. At one point that fucking bandido could put MJF down in the middle of the ring with a big move and go to the top rope and let fucking Cruz jump up behind the referees back and just shake the rope enough that fucking bandido gets crotched or fucking whatever and MJF somehow run up there and hit him with that fucking package. God damn DDT thing he does it looks so devastating. Boom 123. Then you fuck the baby face that could have won. If he hadn't been obstructed by the manager. But that fucking heel took advantage of it. And then here comes Brody King. The partner of Bandido. God damn pissed off and going to kick the shit out of MJF but guess what MJF. Ducks past Jonathan Cruz and shit cans him in his way as he dives through the ropes and Brody King hits that big black hole slam on fucking Cruz. And is standing in the ring. Telling him Jeff to get back in there and MJF is outside and maybe he could even grab. Cruises foot and pull him out and pull him. Down the aisle way to get out of there you've set it up. Am I am I crazy. Well certainly but you're also a brilliant wrestling mind. All right well I'll take that away from you. That's right. Well that was another a W dynamite whether Tony's crazy or not. I guess more evidence next week. But at least he's more professional at it. Tony Khan is crazy but he's more professionally crazy than the folks over at T&A who are still doing cable access television. We've established that. We're going to hear from people that are going to say that we're being unfair that we have to give T&A more of a chance. No it's that kind of wrestling show that is a negative for wrestling. We need something serious not something that wants to be WWE. It's it's it's always it's the same shit with different people and varying degrees of budget. But you know what we're going to do we're going to come back next week with the same people in the same budget and varying degrees of dipshits. Right here on this show. How about that Brian? Sounds great Jim. All those dipshits. Well next look at all those dipshits. Here's the story of all those dipshits that were sitting all in a row. They were all there and we talked about them on this podcast show. The Jim Cornett experience. Oh my god. And until next week we will see you then. Thank you. Bye bye everybody.