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Martin & Millicent: How Islam Is Quietly Reshaping the West | The Jesus People Podcast Episode 59

93 min
Feb 17, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Martin and Millicent Cedra, Australian Christian activists, discuss Islam's expansion strategy in the West through immigration and cultural integration rather than military conquest, comparing it to Christianity's foundational principles and warning of a four-phase Islamization process already underway in Western nations.

Insights
  • Islam employs a deliberate multi-phase conquest strategy: phase 1 (peaceful immigration), phase 2 (public religious gatherings and political infiltration), phase 3 (increased violence and terrorism), phase 4 (religious dominance with Christian persecution)
  • The theological distinction between Islam and Christianity centers on three core doctrines: Jesus's divinity, his crucifixion and resurrection, and the nature of God—Muslims reject all three, making theological unity impossible despite surface-level similarities
  • Western Christian decline is accelerating through a coordinated 'death cult' alliance of progressive ideology, LGBTQ+ movements, abortion advocacy, and Islam—all united by opposition to Christian values rather than shared positive vision
  • Taqiyah (Islamic doctrine permitting deception of non-Muslims) and strategic political positioning allow Muslim leaders to present moderate public personas while advancing Islamic supremacist agendas through democratic institutions
  • Christian boldness and willingness to face persecution is the primary defense against cultural Islamization—lukewarm Christianity and political silence create power vacuums that Islam actively exploits
Trends
Rapid Muslim demographic growth in Western cities through immigration and higher birth rates, with Muhammad becoming the most common baby name in LondonStrategic Muslim political infiltration of Western municipal governments (mayors in NYC, Michigan, Minneapolis) as phase 2 of Islamization strategyCoordinated suppression of Christian speech and persecution narratives through social media bans and platform censorship targeting Christian activistsDeclining Christian birth rates and family formation in the West contrasted with high Muslim fertility rates, creating demographic replacement dynamicsRevival movements emerging in Muslim-majority nations (Indonesia 100k conversions/year, Iran mosque closures, Gaza visions) suggesting counter-trend to Western IslamizationProgressive alliance with Islamic movements based on shared anti-Christian objectives rather than ideological alignment, creating unstable coalition dynamicsIncreased violence against Christians in Nigeria and other regions as Islam transitions to phase 3 of conquest strategy in those territoriesWeaponization of religious freedom and tolerance doctrines by Islamic organizations to advance supremacist agendas within liberal democratic frameworks
Topics
Islam's Four-Phase Conquest Strategy in the WestTheological Differences Between Islam and ChristianityTaqiyah and Islamic Deception DoctrineChristian Persecution in Nigeria and AfricaMuslim Demographic Growth and Replacement in Western NationsPolitical Infiltration by Muslim Leaders in Western GovernmentsLGBTQ+ and Progressive Alliance with Islamic MovementsChristian Boldness and Persecution-Driven RevivalAbortion and Feminism as Anti-Natalist MovementsApostasy Laws and Religious Freedom in Islamic NationsMuhammad's Historical Actions and Islamic DoctrineQuranic Abrogation and Textual CorruptionChristian Nationalism and Biblical Governance StandardsMissionary Work vs. Immigration as Conversion StrategyWestern Church Compromise and Lukewarm Christianity
People
Martin Cedra
Australian Christian activist and preacher warning about Islam's expansion in the West; co-host of episode discussing...
Millicent Cedra
Australian Christian activist and speaker focusing on abortion, feminism, and women's issues; co-host discussing Chri...
Charlie Kirk
Conservative activist mentioned as recently killed; his death cited as catalyst for Christian revival and boldness in...
Muhammad
Founder of Islam; discussed extensively regarding historical actions, marriages, and doctrinal teachings that form ba...
Jesus Christ
Central figure in Christianity; contrasted with Muhammad regarding teachings, character, and theological claims about...
Zohar Mamdani
Muslim mayor of New York City; cited as example of phase 2 Islamization through political infiltration of Western gov...
Ezekiel Dachimo
Nigerian pastor and 'Voice of Nigeria'; discussed as persecuted Christian leader facing death threats while opposing ...
Ryan (Host)
Podcast host facilitating discussion on Islam, Christianity, and Western cultural threats; organizes prayer for perse...
Margaret Sanger
Planned Parenthood founder; mentioned as representative of anti-natalist movement aligned against Christian values
Ayesha
Muhammad's youngest wife; discussed as victim of child marriage and sexual abuse at age 9, illustrating Islamic found...
Quotes
"You can't intimidate a Christian into silence because God is the author of my life and he decides how long I live. And no human being will ever stop us from speaking the truth of God's word."
Millicent CedraOpening segment
"Not all Muslims are violent but all Islam is violent. It's the same as Christianity—not all Christians are holy but Christianity is holy."
Martin CedraMid-episode theological discussion
"Islam does not coexist with anybody. There's a teaching in Islam called Dahr al-Harb or Dahr al-Salam—house of war or house of peace. It can only be a house of peace once it's Muslim."
Martin CedraIslamization strategy section
"The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. Why does persecution lead to revival? Because anybody sitting on the fence who has been lukewarm in their faith wakes up."
Ryan (Host)Revival discussion
"If you don't have the Bible as the standard of morality, as the basis of a nation, there has to be a standard. If it's not Christianity, it will be Islam."
Millicent CedraGovernance and morality section
Full Transcript
There's a Muslim there that recognizes Martin from social media, gets on the phone, starts making all these threats on his phone to intimidate us. And really, we're just they're trying to intimidate us into silence. But this is why you can't intimidate a Christian into silence is because God is the author of my life and he decides how long I live. And no human being will ever stop us from speaking the truth of God's word. Because at the end of the day, even death itself does not make us afraid because you can't kill a Christian. We just changed locations. Charlie Kirk, they didn't kill him. He's just now in the presence of God in heaven. Guys, welcome to the Jesus People podcast. We've got the honor of having Martin and Millicent Cedra here. you guys are killers man i'm so excited thank you it's an honor to be here all the way from australia flew 16 hours just to be here can you feel the freedom yeah man i'll feel the freedom free give me a gun someone give me a gun i don't have guns in australia i need a gun right now well i mean we could go hit a ranger too yeah man yeah yeah i wouldn't trust an arab with a gun but yeah it feels like the promised land yeah you come off the plane you just feel the feel god here man you do and everybody like and every uber we take it's like they're a christian someone's a christian somewhere there's just christians everywhere i love it wow well you guys have an incredible ministry an incredible church an incredible online presence it's like the lord has clearly divinely put you two together because you guys are just i mean melissa you're like a firecracker dude you're like watching your stuff on social media, I'm just like, this lady is killing it. Like you are going, you are charging enemy territory and your voice speaking and really illuminating the Western world about Islam. If you guys haven't seen the Sedras on social media, you need to leave this video, go follow them, Millicent and Martin Sedra on Instagram, YouTube, wherever it is, because you guys are trailblazers. You guys are eye openers. You are awakening people to really what is happening in the world and the threat of Islam. And I think a lot of people we've found ourselves in this, you know, kind of wishy-washy postmodern society where we can't call out evil and you guys are just charging it. And so I'd love to hear a bit of your story. Yeah, I'd love I'd love for you guys to talk a bit about your ministry. Now we were chatting just in the kitchen earlier and hearing some of the threats you guys are facing, which is very real, especially in the wake of Charlie dying. like that's it's very real um and so we want to be praying for the cedras all of us that are listening now we need to cover you guys in prayer but tell us like tell us the backstory how did yeah how did two pistols come together yeah man get married and yeah yeah well let's go all the way from 1998 i was born and in egypt egypt 1400 years ago was a christian country um egypt was 90 christian believe it or not um there was a historian that was writing about egypt and he said, I was traveling through Egypt from the Nile River to the bottom of Egypt. And he said, all I can hear, and he records this in his journals, he said, all I can hear was hymns and worship music and worship songs. And this shows you just how deep Christianity was in the roots of Egypt. And 1400 years ago, the Muslims came, conquered Egypt, killed the pastors, burned the churches, raped the woman, took the children, made the Muslims. And now it's flipped. Now it's not 90% Christian anymore is 90% Muslim. So that's kind of the country we grew up in. Me and my family. When you say we, you don't mean me. Not you. As you can tell, she's, you know, Aussie. Not Egyptian. Not Egyptian. But we grew up, yeah, we grew up in Egypt. My dad was, his main ministry was to preach to Muslims and convert it to Christianity. Yeah. It's very hard to plant a church in Egypt. They have a lot of regulations over where you can plant, how you can do it, how big the church is. So my dad decided, I'm going to take a different route, go with evangelism to the Muslims, which was pretty much committing suicide in a Muslim country under Sharia law. That's apostasy laws. If you leave Islam, you die. And the pastor or the Christian that converted you dies as well. So my dad's main minister was to convert Muslims to Christianity. And he was seeing hundreds, if not thousands, come to Christ. Women take their hijab off, repent of their sin. Muslim men come to Christ. And really, he was putting all our life in danger. We kind of, our whole family was always getting death threats. people waiting outside of our house, multiple stories of nearly dying for our faith. But really the pinnacle of our story comes when my dad converted a specific woman. He was having just, you know, a prayer meeting in his house, invited lots of Muslim people. A Muslim woman happened to be sitting there in a hijab. And my dad is preaching Jesus, the love of Christ. By the end of the meeting, she repents of her sin. She turns to Christianity. She leaves Islam. My dad doesn't know that her husband was a leader of a Muslim terrorist group. So he didn't know. He just thought She was a Muslim, ordinary woman. Her husband happens to be a Muslim leader in a terrorist group. And that guy finds out that someone preached to his wife and he's furious. He's like, how dare this guy preach to my wife, convert to Christianity. He decides, I'm going to take revenge on the pastor. How? By killing his children. At the time, my brothers, Andrew and John, were nine years old and five. And he studied their movements. He studied that my brothers catch the school bus at seven in the morning. so he sent two men and the plan was two men come in a van seven in the morning to the bus stop kidnap my brothers behead them put them in a bag send them back to the front door of my dad's house to teach him a lesson don't preach jesus again and that's what islam does um anytime if you come against islam um the sword of muhammad will come to you whether you like it or not whether it's a gun a gun a bomb a knife someone's going to come after you so really he sends two men muslim men in a van to the school bus. They see my brothers, Andrew and John, five and nine at the bus stop. As they try to get out of the van, they feel frozen in the van. They can't get out. There's two Muslim men. They feel frozen in the van. My brothers get on a school bus. The school bus leaves. The two Muslim men unfreeze again. They look at each other. They're like, you coward. They think, you know, they've killed preachers, politicians before. To kill a five and a nine year old should be very easy. They can't do it. So they think they're just frozen out of fear. They're like, you coward, you coward. The next day, the boss is angry, so he sends two bigger Muslim men, and he says, you finished your job. He sends two bigger Muslim men in the van. They see my brothers at the bus at 7 in the morning. This time, the two Muslim men get out of the van. They're standing right behind my brothers at the school bus, and as they go to kidnap my brothers, bear in mind, they're 5 and 9. As they go to kidnap them, to behead them, they feel a supernatural hand, an angel, tie their hands behind their back. so these two muslim men don't know who it is or what's going on they can't move both their hands are tied behind their head they watch my brothers my brothers get on the school bus the school bus leaves and they unfreeze again the two muslim men now are in shock they've just never happened before they don't know what's going on the muslim leader after hearing the story he goes to my dad's house knocks on the door my dad opens the door he's like what are you doing here he sits with him in the living room just like we're sitting now he tells him the story that's how we know the ins and out of the story he says i'll try to kill your kids and all these things and he lands the story by saying i try to kill your children but your god protected them and a muslim brotherhood leader becomes a christian in the living room turns from islam repents of his sin um and he's still a christian today he's actually living in america somewhere we don't know where he is uh but he's living in america now and this is kind of the story we grew up in um and really what this story shows us is the god of the bible is greater than allah jesus christ is stronger than allah he's Stronger than Muhammad. All of Islam combined, the two billion Muslims around the world, they cannot stand against the God of the Bible. So that's kind of where we grew up in. We moved to Egypt. We moved to Australia as refugees in 2007. He was meant to come to the USA but got rejected. We got rejected. So thank you, Jesus. Because then he came to my country. There you go. So we moved to Australia. You tell them where we went. Well, I grew up Christian. I grew up in church. Amazing prayer warrior parents. You know how these days a lot of people say, I don't want to force Christianity on my kids. I want to let them decide. I'm not going to teach them the Bible. I'm not going to make them come to church. My parents were like, no, you're coming to church. If you're sick, grab a tissue. Let's go. We're going. And I'm so grateful for that. I'm so grateful that my parents raised me in those values. And so at 13 years old, I knew from the age of eight that all I wanted to do was preach his word. I don't know what that looked like or how. but I remember having an encounter with God when I was eight and all I wanted to do was preach and so basically for the next few years I was just just reading his word studying his word and then at 13 Martin was preaching in front at Hillsong it was like a Hillsong conference he was preaching at it was a youth conference and he was preaching at 13 years old because that's just what they do like that's that was the Cedra family he had just seen how his dad would keep preaching in the face of of death threats in the face of all of this kind of stuff, going to prison. And so that's what they do. They just preach. That's all they know. And so he would go into his school and, you know, start a lunchtime group, and there'd be 300 students in this public school hearing the gospel preached from this 13-year-old. And so he was preaching, basically, and I saw him. And I told my parents I'd met my husband at 13 years old. I knew straight away. Because I was not the type that was like – since the age of eight, I was not the type of like, oh, let's just do Christianity casually. I'm like, I'm fully sold out. I'm all in. And so I was looking. I would not marry somebody that was not also sold out and completely all in. And, you know, he had told me when we were 18, I don't know what our life would look like. He's like, we might never own a house. I don't know what country we'll end up in. We might be in India as preachers, as evangelists. I don't know. But we're sold out and we're doing whatever Jesus tells us. And I was like, done. That's exactly what I want too. You got married at 20? and now we've been married for eight years and one kid on the way. So let's see what God takes us. Have you announced it this year? No, we haven't announced it. He keeps just announcing it casually. I keep announcing it on podcast. It's fun. Maybe our announcement can be just like all the clips of you just saying it on podcast. You're right. Let's do that. That's a good idea. So we're having a baby, guys. Let's go. Pray it doesn't look like you. Congratulations. Yeah. Thank you, man. Yeah. Yeah. So we're really here to warn us. Well, first of all, that kid is going to be a firecracker. Holy smokes. Amen. The DNA of both of you guys, the spirit of both you guys into one child. Amen. Amen. That's all right. This revival is coming. I'm praying for a preacher. Yes. Oh, you're going to get one, dude. Amen. Amen. We are praying for a preacher. No, man. So we're really here to warn the West about the dangers of Islam. Because the lie is at the moment, Ryan, is Islam is a religion of peace. And this word or this term of Islam, the religion of peace, is a very new term, about 1970, 1980. The Muslims realized, all right, we're not going to conquer the West through violence. It's not going to work that way. So we need to change our strategy. So they begin calling it Islam, the religion of peace. And they said it over and over again. And now this is kind of the story around Islam. But we all know Islam is not a religion of peace. I mean, when you look at Islam and the fruits of Islam, Islam is a religion of war, violence, and terror. And this is not some radical Islam. This is the origin of Islam. When he studied the origin, I think that's where you kind of wanted to go, right, Islam? When he studied the origins of Islam, for all my listeners who don't know Islam, because a lot of people don't know what Islam is. So Judaism, obviously, 3,000-year-old religion. They're awaiting the Messiah. They think the Messiah is going to come on a horse, a chariot, to save them from the oppressors and the Romans as a conqueror. Jesus comes born of a Virgin Mary 2,000 years ago. He comes born in Bethlehem in a manger. at the age of 30, he claims to be God. And the Jews are like, no, you're not God. Some Jews believe that turns into Christianity. Christianity is birthed. We believe that Jesus is the Messiah. He is the Son of God. He's God in the flesh. Emmanuel, God with us. Now, 570 years later, after the birth of Jesus Christ, bear in mind, Jesus died. He rose again. Christianity is exploded all throughout the world through persecution. And now Christianity is really blowing up. 570 AD, so 570 years after the birth of Jesus, a guy by the name of muhammad is born in mecca um he's born as an he's actually an orphan he doesn't his parents are not around he's raised by his uncle or someone in his family um and at the age of 40 16 ad he sees uh he sees angel gabriel or he thinks it's angel gabriel in a cave and apparently angel gabriel tells him hey the christians the jews they're all wrong you know the christians believe in jesus as god that's wrong you know the christians believe that you Jesus died on a cross, that's wrong. And Muhammad pretty much in Mecca, he starts going around to the Jews and everyone around him and tell him, guys, you're wrong. I got the new revelation. No one believes this guy. For 12 years, he lives in Mecca and preaches this message of Islam. No one likes him. No one believes in his message. In fact, in 12 years of evangelizing about Islam, he only converts about 10 to 100 followers. So Jesus in three years, like thousands, tens of thousands of people follow him. Muhammad in the span of 12 years converts about 100 people and that's where a lot of verses in the Quran they're about peace so a lot of verses in the Quran a lot of Muslims bring it up they're like this verse says tolerate the unbeliever love them, be peaceful all these verses about peace come in the first 12 years of Muhammad's life where he's peaceful because he doesn't have a following in Mecca that's what they call the Meccan period the Meccan period is the peaceful season of Islam then Muhammad after 12 years decide it's not working I'm going to move to Medina. He migrates to Medina. After he goes to Medina, that's when the whole message flips. He becomes a political leader. He starts killing people, going into caravans, towns and cities, butchering people, telling them, convert to Islam or you die. And that's really how Islam spread. Islam did not spread by conversion. They spread by, hey, convert or you're going to die. So Christianity spread through the blood of the martyrs. Islam spread through the blood of its enemies. So that's kind of the different, that's the origin of Islam. so the origin of Christianity is we have Christ who died on the cross for us loved us, died for our sins for the sake of the world Islam, their origin is our founder went around killing people so let's just do the same thing so that's kind of the origins if you want or the foundations of Islam so when people find Muslims killing Christians or killing people in Nigeria that's not radical Islam, that's just normal Islam that's kind of the faithful Islam you know when you see kind of people always say but I have a nice Muslim friend and they always say not all Muslims are violent and it's true I like to say it this way not all Muslims yeah there's many peaceful Muslims we have very nice Muslims well even in South Nigeria the Muslims and the Christians live in peace it's just in the world and that's the thing it's true there's a lot of nice Muslims I had a lot of nice Muslim friends in school that I grew up with and the thing is I like to say it this way not all Muslims are violent but all Islam is violent it's the same as Christianity not all Christians are holy but Christianity is holy so when you see a christian in the street get drunk um you know go to church not go to church not read the bible sleep with his girlfriend cheat on his wife you're like that guy's not a christian yeah he's not following the bible it's not an indictment on the crux of the religion no but it's saying okay the crux of this religion is fundamentally peace is humble yourself yeah and you'll be elevated the crux of the religion of islam yes is kill to conquer to take territory And you have to judge both books. So you can't look at every single Christian and say that's Christianity because you have lukewarm Christians, you have faithful Christians that are living righteous according to the book. And you have to judge Christianity by the book. And you have to judge Islam by the Quran. It's the same story. So you're judged by the book and the founder. So our book, Jesus said, love your enemies. Muhammad says, kill your enemies. right jesus before he died said oh actually so so muhammad says kill the infidel jesus said love your enemies muhammad before he died one of his last words where may allah curse the jews and the christians jesus on the cross before he died said father forgive them for they don't know what they did and i think people need to recognize too like these are literal like literal verses in the quran yeah like kill the jew kill the christian is a direct quote this is not yeah exactly so we're We're not mincing words. No, we're not. This is what it is. Yeah, and we're not, by the way, I see cheating a text. Like, we're not misinterpreting it. Right, yeah. This is actually what it says. Well, because look at the application of it, that they're doing it today. So this is not a misinterpretation. You have terrorism today because they're interpreting those verses rightly. And by the way, these Muslims are very faithful. Like, that Muslim in Bondi, the two Muslims in Bondi Beach that killed the Jews, they were very faithful Muslims. They were actually obeying the book to the T. And anyone who condemned this guy is not really a Muslim. Muhammad, that's what he did. He went around killing people for a living. He was a political leader that established Islam by the sword. That is like one of the signs, one of the symbols of Christianity. The symbol of Christianity is a cross. The symbol of Islam is a sword. So when you look at the symbols, you're like, okay, this is so, like, it makes complete sense why a lot of the Muslims like flags, Islamic flags around the world have a sword. That's what their prophet did. Our Christ carried a cross. Their founder carried a sword. Our founder, Jesus Christ, carried a cross on his back. In fact, he touched a leper, healed the sick, raised the dead. Muhammad literally killed the living. Like Jesus raised the dead, Muhammad killed the living. It's the comparison. Jesus said he who lives by the sword. Would die by the sword. Muhammad was pierced by a sword. He was pierced literally. Did not do the piercing. he was no no and many people don't know how the revelation came to muhammad like a lot of people don't know that when muhammad received the revelation from god and had this encounter with this angel he himself stated afterwards that he felt like jumping off a mountain and killing himself so he was suicidal like classic demonic activity 100 when when god encounters us as christians we feel at peace how do we even judge whether it's the enemy speaking to us versus it's God. It's the sense of peace we feel when God speaks to us. So that should tell you as a Christian that if somebody receives a revelation from God that leaves them feeling possessed by a demon, which is actually what he said. He said, I might be possessed by a demon. It leaves him feeling suicidal. Muhammad said that. Leaves him feeling suicidal. Wait, that's in the Quran? Yeah, he literally was, he had multiple suicide attempts of a mountain. Because of this encounter with the angel Gabriel. After seeing the angel Gabriel, and told him apparently the new revelation of Islam, he literally is hiding. He's hiding. He thinks it's a demon. And his wife, Khadija, who was older than him, this older rich widow who funded him because he was a poor guy. He didn't have money to do what he wanted to do. She's the one that convinces him, actually, you saw an angel. When we see an angel in the Bible visit Mary or visit anybody, he says, do not be afraid. You don't go shaking after. Well, and even on this podcast, we've had a lot of people that have come from the new age. We've had a lot of people that have come from, um, I don't know, worshiping demons. The former head of the church, Satan was on the podcast. We've had so many people that have been in that dark place. And what you just described that the revelation Muhammad got, I'm like, that is so in line with every single encounter that I've heard. Demonic encounter where they present themselves in the new age, you know, psychics, they're seeing these angelic beings. And then when they come to know Jesus and they say, reveal yourself in the name of Jesus, they've got blood coming out of their eyes but they were masquerading as angels of light exactly and how do you know Islam is demonic Islam loves death Islam loves death it hinges on killing infidels infidels by the way for anyone who doesn't know infidels is pretty much anyone who's not a Muslim you're an infidel infidels like you are the dirt of the earth you are disgusting according to the Quran in fact Muhammad when he speaks about Christians or Jews were described as apes and pigs so Hitler Hitler hated the Jews so he put propaganda up against the wall and all over he made the Jews look like rats so he changed the psychology of the nation to view the Jews as rats so when they gassed the Jews or killed the Jews they didn't feel like they were killing a human they were killing a rat so Muhammad, that's exactly what he did and I'm sure Hitler got his idea from Muhammad Muhammad doesn't call us rats he calls us apes and pigs and what's an ape and a pig you're not worthy of anything it's not Imago Dei made in the image of God it's Imago Porce made in the image of a pig and that's why when you see on October 7th when Hamas killed, butchered, raped mutilated girls' legs off and put babies in ovens and as they did that they shouted Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar by the way means our God is greater my God is greater So they're killing people on October 7th while shouting Allahu Akbar. They're raping women while shouting Allahu Akbar. They're putting babies in the oven while shouting Allahu Akbar. They're stabbing, beheading Christians, 21 Christians, Coptic Christians. And when they lined them up on the beach and they put the orange suits on, they beheaded them. What did they say? Allahu Akbar. Why? That's what Allah wants them to do. He wants them to kill the infidels. So this is how you know it's demonic. The Bible, John 10 says the thief comes to kill, steal, and destroy. That's what Islam does. Kill, kill, destroy. It's a parallel of hell. It's a parallel of demons. It's a parallel of evil. And you guys are Australian, but you're coming to America. And you were telling me something interesting earlier that America really is the last frontier. And it is moving the culture globally. What is your concern for America? Yeah, man. America is slowly getting Islamized. America is slowly getting Islamized. And America is messing around with Islam. and they think Islam is here to coexist and just live among the Christians and the Jews and the Hindus and the atheists. Islam does not coexist with anybody. There's a teaching in Islam. It's called Dahr al-Harb or Dahr al-Salam. The meaning of that is house of war or house of peace. So the way Islam views nations is they either view it in two ways. There's two categories. It's a house of war or a house of peace. It can only be a house of peace once it's Muslim. But unless it Muslim it called Dahr al which means the house of war So what Americans understand is when a real Muslim comes to America they don view this country as a blessed nation They view this country as a house of war. And until it becomes Muslim, it is war for us. It is warfare. And that's why the Islamization of America, you see the mayor of New York City, Zohar Mamdani, is a Muslim. The mayor of Giebel, Michigan, a Muslim. The mayor of St. Louis Park, a Muslim. The May Candida or Minneapolis are Muslim. And this is what you call the Islamization of the West. Islam knows we cannot conquer America by the sword. They can't. For 1400 years, Islam has conquered countries by the sword. Egypt, my country, was Christian. They killed them by the sword. It became Muslim overnight. Yemen was Christian. It became Muslim overnight. Sudan was Christian. It became Muslim overnight. Morocco was Christian. It became Muslim overnight. How? The sword. Islam looked at America and they thought, we can't conquer this country. Their nuclear weapons are stronger than ours. Their army is stronger than us. Their White House, their Pentagon. There is no way Muslims will be able to conquer America by the sword. So they changed their strategy. Let's go bit by bit. Let's start with immigration. Let's come in bit by bit. Let's slowly introduce halal food. You see halal food everywhere. That's Islamizing a country. You slowly see hijabs everywhere. That's phase one. Then they go to phase two. Phase two, they begin to pray in the streets like New York City. This is the Islamization of America. Is this written down? Is this like an actual plan? No, this is, I kind of, when I break it up, the Muslim Brotherhood have... It's patterns. Yeah, it's patterns how they conquer Europe. Right? Remember, Europe was the hub of Christianity. Europe had revivals. John Wesley. Yeah, it's fallen. Right, it's fallen. Like, one of the most common baby names, actually the most common baby name now in London is Muhammad. Yeah. So it's being Islamized. And how did they start the Islamizing of America? Phase one, you come as peaceful. You're the victim. You come as immigrants. I need help. I need welfare. You come in the country. You introduce halal food. The woman wear hijabs. And it's like, you know what? Let's just coexist. Then we go to phase two. Phase two is like, phase two is kind of a little bit more aggressive and public. Now they're gathering in larger groups like thousands, like New York City. Thousands of Muslims are gathering, praying in the street. They're now getting in political spheres like Zohar Mamdani. They're becoming a little bit more public. Wasn't it at LA? LAX airport? where one of the shops was just playing the Quran out loud so that you could hear as you're walking by. That'd be stage two. That's kind of stage two. Islamizing. Let's slowly do it. New York City, you have food trucks playing the Quran out loud bit by bit. Then you go to phase three. Phase three is where the UK is at right now. Phase three, they get very aggressive. They begin to get violent. Terrorist attacks increase. So Sydney would be going into phase three right now. Knife attacks increase. The knife attacks in the UK is horrendous. rape cases increase the uk europe has had 200 000 rape cases in the last 200 years sorry in the last 20 years yeah 200 000 rape cases in the last 20 years by pakistani muslims so that's phase three rape cases increase terrorist attacks increase and then you go to phase four phase four is now kind of where no one is there yet except obviously afghanistan and all the muslim countries now christians are called the infidels churches are burnt pastors are killed women are raped children become muslims so my warning to america is if you don't wake up you're going to be islamized and america have this pride americans can sometimes be proud for um you know my country and it's good to be proud of your country but don't let it turn into uh into uh arrogance in a sense where you become ignorant to the fact that islam is a religion is a conquering religion yeah islam conquers countries for a living yeah for 1400 years they've conquered countries so muhammad after he died within 100 years of his death islam conquered conquered 50 to 60 percent of the christian world wow so yeah if you if america thinks you know islam is not going to conquer me that's just arrogance um egypt thought that and they were conquered yemen thought that they were conquered morocco thought that and they were conquered the uk thought that and they're being conquered yeah so america needs to really wake up or you're not going to be christian anymore i do think that as one as well one thing i hear a lot of americans say and it's one thing i love about Americans is it's like you guys value freedom so much. And I hear a lot of Americans say, but, you know, freedom of religion. We have to give them freedom to believe what they want. And, of course, that's true. But there has to be boundaries and a line because you can't give freedom of religion to a religion that does not believe in freedom of religion. This is the problem is that Islam doesn't believe in freedom of religion. They don't believe in the separation of mosque and state. They don't believe that you can be a Muslim but then decide, oh, actually, I don't believe in this God. I want to leave. No, well, you're going to be killed because you're an apostate now. You're committing apostasy. And so this is what I think I love about America, but I can see how Islam is going to, they're going to violate. It's this beautiful, we want to give freedom of religion, and there has to be wisdom and discernment to the, giving it to the people who want to conquer your religion. Like that's their mandate. Our great commission is to go into all the world, preach the gospel, baptize. that's our mandate as christians their mandate is to go and conquer the world and make everybody be muslim by force because people say doesn't islam mean peace like that's what islam means it means peace it means peace by submission yeah so yes the goal for the muslim is peace meaning allah is worshipped by everyone but the means to get that peace according to them is submission you must submit or you die so that that's it that's that's the deceiving thing about the word islam yeah they say islam means peace no it doesn't salam means peace so islam it's kind of two words salam salam is peace but when you put the i in front of the islam it's peace through submission so there's only peace if you submit to my religion so if you don't become a christian there's no peace brother if you don't if you don't convert to islam there's no peace um it's sword submit pay tax or um submit to islam pay tax or we're going to kill you that's kind of islam for you you know i mean dang and i i find the reason this is happening is because the reason islam is able to conquer a nation like you know the uk like australia and america if we don't if they don't wake up is because the christians have been saying for so long because of secularism we should just be quiet about our faith we'll be quiet about our beliefs we shouldn't get involved in politics christians shouldn't get involved in politics because politics is the realm of the devil I'm like, yeah, only if you give it to him. Like Christians are called to politics. Some Christians are called. That's their calling. That's their mandate. When you look throughout the Bible, so many of the heroes of faith were either politicians themselves or they were going up to politicians and telling them repent. Like John the Baptist going up, losing his head for that. Daniel going up to the king. They were either politicians or advising politicians because God is supposed to reign in a nation. And according to Romans 13, the government is supposed to be a servant of God. That's what the role of government is, to be a servant of God and to punish the wrongdoer. So the point of government is to administer justice in order to keep God's moral standard of a nation. And so when the government is no longer doing that and getting rid of God's standard of morality, the Christians are supposed to rise up and say, actually, no. So, for example, in the West, what's happening is the government is taking upon God's role, which is, for example, defining the value of human life. Only God gets to do that. That is not the job of Caesar to define the value of human life. Their job is to punish anyone who comes against the value of human life and murders. They're supposed to punish that. But now Caesar is saying, oh, it's actually our job. Caesar is redefining marriage. And what we're seeing now is we've got a lot of secularists who are telling us as Christians, we don't want to hear what the Bible says about abortion. We don't want to hear what the Bible says about marriage. Keep your little book to yourself. Here's the problem, though. If you don't have the Bible as the standard of morality, as the basis of a nation, there has to be a standard. There has to be somebody saying, here is the standard of morality to govern the nation. And if it's not Christianity, it will be Islam. What else is it going to be? It can be atheism. If you want North Korea, if you want China, if that's the kind of world you want to live in, you want to live in the Soviet Union, then you can have an atheist worldview which says that you have no inherent value. You're just a clump of selves. You're just a cosmic accident. And in an atheist worldview, people end up being abused because we have no inherent value. So we can have atheism if we want. We can have Islam where we said there is no separation of mosque and state. You will be forced to bow down. Women, by the way, are completely oppressed under Islam. You can go Islam or you can rise up and say, as we should, Christianity should be the foundation of the nation. If it's not Christianity, I don't want to live in that nation. I do believe that the Bible is the greatest standard for morality. I 100% believe that. because you know they try to use this slur against us as though it's some sort of criticism you know you're a christian nationalist i do believe the bible is the greatest basis of morality for a nation i wholeheartedly believe that right absolutely and if we don't say that islam will take over and that's why it's taken over in the uk i believe and by the way if you guys saw zohra mamdani just got sworn in as mayor of new york city and he swore in the quran he didn't swear in the bible he swore in the quran what's interesting about this is he swore on the Quran to protect and build New York to protect the people of New York when that book that he got sworn on the book, the Quran that book that he swore on commands him to hate the people of New York so he swore on the Quran saying I'm going to build New York I'm going to take care of them I'm going to be a great mayor of the people of New York acting like he loves the people of New York that book you just swore on commands you to kill the people of New York because the people of New York there's Jews living there there's Christians living there there's gays living there and there's atheists living there and this is what the trans community and the LGBTQ need to understand when the trans say you know trans for Mamdani or gays for Mamdani or you know trans for Palestine you are gays for Gaza you are literally voting in your own death like this is what they need to understand homosexuals according to the Quran homosexuals are thrown off buildings in Muslim countries Transgenders are stoned to death in Muslim countries. So when people say, you know, I want a Muslim mayor, Zohar Mimdani, I love this guy. I'm like, really? You love that guy? If that guy is a true Muslim, he should hate you. If that guy is a true Muslim, he shouldn't care about you. And this is what people say. They say, but there's some nice Muslims. There's a lot of kind Muslims. There's a lot of peaceful Muslims. Zohar Mimdani is a nice guy. And this is where really the danger of this dangerous teaching in Islam, they call taqiyah. I'm not sure if you recognize that word or if you've heard about that word. There's a dangerous teaching in Islam called taqiyah. Taqiyah is a teaching in Islam where a Muslim is allowed to lie to a non-Muslim for the sake of spreading Islam. So the Muslims are not allowed to lie to Muslims, but you're allowed to lie to non-Muslims. If you feel like the mission of Islam is under danger, if you feel like you're in danger or the mission of Allah and Islam is in danger, you're allowed to lie so in spain um when islam was conquering spain um uh there was a time in history where the christians were were the majority and the christians kind of were trying to take payback against the muslims so they were being a bit harsh in that time so there was half a million muslims living in the in that country and the half a million muslims decided where there's no way we're going to conquer spain um there's no way we're going to conquer spain unless we lie so what they did overnight 500 000 muslims half a million muslims converted to christianity got baptized and took communion in the church lying to the pastors and to the country that were now christians why did they do that because they know if we don't lie islam can't spread so what they do is they lie until they have the power so zohar m'dani is either not a muslim like he's a lucro muslim and he's not really practicing islam or he's practicing taqiyah because when he said i love the jews really love the Jews because according to your Quran, you should hate the Jews. Really love the Christians because according to the Quran, you should kill the Christians. You love the trans and the gays. Really? You should kill those guys. So I really hope Zohar Mimdani is just a lucro Muslim, but he might be practicing taqiyah. Why is it that the LGBTQ community has adopted Islam? Oh, the thing is, you know, that famous quote, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Yeah. You know, the enemy, So the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I might unite with an enemy in order to destroy another enemy. So the common factor, and this is the unholy alliance between the left and Islam, is both of them hate Christ. Both of them hate Christianity. Both of them hate the Bible. Both of them hate holiness. Both of them hate anything that's in the Bible. So the Islamists and the leftists are combining, let's take Christ out of culture. Let's take the Bible out of schools. And that's what they don't understand. This is what the leftists don't understand is once the Islamists take away Christianity, they're coming for the leftists. And this is the way we say it. The Muslim's holy day is Friday. So they pray on Friday. That's their holy day. The Jews' holy day is Saturday. That's their Sabbath. The Christian's holy day is Sunday. That's our church, the day Jesus was resurrected. The atheist holy day or the leftist holy day is Monday. That's when they build their empire and they make money. and the way you say it kind of this is a sequence for the Muslims the people of Friday, the Muslims kill the people of Saturday, the Jews once they kill the people of Saturday, the Jews who's next? the people of Sunday, the Christians and once the people of Friday kill the people of Sunday, the Christians who's next? once the Jews and the Christians are out of the way here comes the people of Monday that's the atheists, the trans and anybody who's not a Jew or a Christian so this is what the leftists need to understand the Muslims are only combining with the leftists because the people of Saturday and Sunday, the Christians and the Jews, are in their way. Once we get out of the way, you're next. Once we get out of the way, the gays are going to get killed, the trans are going to get killed, and the feminists are going to get killed. So we're really the only people, the Jews and the Christians, are the only people standing in the way of the Muslims going after the gays and the trans and the feminists. And it's a strategy. You can find videos of imams saying the greatest thing for them is having a progressive nation because they know when the progressives are saying, you know, LGBTQ promoting this movement so that we're basically, they're not able to multiply. The LGBT, Adam and Steve can't have babies. So they're thriving off the fact that our replacement rate is so low because we're not having babies as a nation because of the LGBTQ community. Then we have abortions. So we have a lot of women that are killing their own babies in the womb because of, you know, empowerment and feminism. And I'm an entrepreneur and I'm going to live my own life and do my own thing. And a baby is a burden. So in the West, in a progressive West, we see babies not as a gift from the Lord, as Psalm 127 says, but we see them as a burden, as a hindrance. They hold us back from our dreams and ambitions. And so we're not having babies. We have the LGBTQ is also not having babies. They can't multiply. Then we have trans ideology that is literally castrating young men. So it's basically we're in a state of Babylon with progressive ideologies. We're in a state of Babylon. And that Islam loves that because that is their opportunity to overtake Christianity. They know that they have the fastest growing religion, not because of conversion, but because of procreation. They know that. They know that in a progressive world that does not value family, that does not value. And the other thing that, you know, Charlie Kirk used to talk about this a lot. He said, the reason the enemy is after families is because when a man has a family he's fighting for, he's going to stand up against every pit of hell that the enemy tries to throw at him. And so that's why the enemy comes against families. So that's why Islam is rejoicing. So Islam, by the way, is the fastest growing religion right now. They are the fastest growing religion. And this should sound alarm bells in the whole Christian world. Because stop with your spiritual stuff. I believe in the spiritual stuff. But we've got to get to the facts. why is Christianity not the fastest growing religion? We have the Holy Spirit on our side. We can have revival. We got babies. There's a lot of ways. And there's a lot of reasons why Islam is the fastest growing religion. Number one, they're killing our Christians. You went to Nigeria. They're killing our Christians. That's a fact. Number two, they got apostasy laws. So there's a lot of Muslims converted to Christianity, but they don't write it on the census because if they do, they're going to get killed by the family of their own. But the main issue is the babies one. the muslims are multiplying they are having lots of babies the the they laugh at the fact that women abort their babies they're like you're crazy because they understand that how do you grow islam it's through babies they are laughing at the western women what's what's becoming so clear to me right now hearing you guys talk is the death cult has aligned the death cult of lgbtq You cannot procreate. Abortion. The leftist love, abortion, LGBTQ, trans, where you're castrating young men and women. And Islam, by the sword. Those four. Exactly. It's the death cult now. And why are they opposing Western ideals that are founded on Christianity? Because Christianity is about life. That's it. That's it. And so really, it says in the last days, the light's going to get light and the dark's going to get really dark. And right now we're seeing the wheat separate from the tares right now. And we're seeing a death cult go after what really is a religion of peace and life. Yeah. In Jesus, I've come to give life and life to the force. So right now there is a cosmic battle going on. I'm sure the demons look very similar among those four groups. 100%. Well, they all have one mission. There's no, by the way, like some half evil and a lot of evil. There's darkness and light. Christianity and Christ is the light. And every other category falls in darkness. Islam, leftism, transgenderism, feminism, all that stuff. And they all hate Christianity. They just want to destroy Christ. They're all standing in the crowd shouting, crucify him, crucify him. That's really what they're all shouting. The feminist movement is standing in the crowd. The Jezebel spirit is standing in the crowd. The Islamist spirit is standing in the crowd. The Planned Parenthood spirit is standing in the crowd. Every ideology is standing in that crowd. And Christianity is standing there in front of the judgment seat. And they're all shouting, crucify him. That's really what they're doing. Kill Christ. Kill Christianity. Take down the churches. Remove the Bible. Let's get rid of Christ. And the good news is Christ doesn't lose. That's the good news. The good news is Jesus didn't stand in the grave. He rose from the dead. We're good. At the end, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess. Muhammad will bow. Planned Parenthood founder. What's her name? Yeah, Margaret Senga. Margaret Senga is going to bow before the throne of Christ and get sent to hell. Weeping and gnashing of teeth. every religion, every false prophet, every demonic movement is going to bow at the foot of Christ. The problem is now, do we wait for that victory or do we fight for that victory? We can't wait. This is a problem with a lot of Christians. Jesus will come back. We'll wait. No, you don't wait. If Christ didn't want you to do something on earth, he would have taken you to heaven now. We've got a lot of work to do. We've got a church to build. We've got families to build. We've got children to raise. We've got a God to serve. and we've got a gospel to preach. Many of you guys know I just got back from Nigeria where I was visiting with the persecuted church in the north. People who had fled their homes, who had been burned, who had been shot in the face, who had been displaced. And I saw things that have changed me forever. I witnessed faith of Christianity that I had never seen before. And my faith was rocked. And so what I did is I put together a documentary and we're hosting the International Night of Prayer for the persecuted church this February 25th. My ask of you guys is this. There's a link in the description or in the show notes. I would ask you, would you gather your people, whether it's your spouse, your small group, your friends, your church, for this night on February 25th, where we're going to come together, we're going to pray, we're going to meet some practical needs, and then we're going to discuss what is this faith that we're seeing here and how can we implement this in our own lives? So would you watch, pray, gather, and discuss this February 25th? It would mean a lot for me. If you could click that link, we will send you everything you need to know. We'll send you instructions. We'll send you PDF guides. We'll send you the link to the video. It would mean so, so much for me, guys, if you could join us in prayer this February 25th. I think the problem is we've gotten really comfortable because what you were sharing earlier, the threats that you're receiving. Talk a little bit about that because you guys are charging this right now, and it doesn't come without a cost. No. Yeah. Tell them what happened a few weeks ago. Yeah. Well, just the day after the Bondi attacks, me and Modern just at the shops, you know, a nice shopping center. And then, you know, like five, probably 20 year old Muslim young men are following us through the shopping center, intimidating us, walking. They're following us through three flights of stairs, making sure they know that they're watching us. We get messages all the time, death threats all of the time. You know, we were just at the doctors having our checkups, scans, all of that. It's supposed to be a nice, you know, moment where having our pregnancy checkups. And, you know, there's a Muslim there that recognizes Martin from social media, gets on the phone, starts making all these threats on his phone to intimidate us. And really, we're just they're trying to intimidate us into silence. But this is why you can't intimidate a Christian into silence is because God is the author of my life and he decides how long I live. And no no human being will ever stop us from speaking the truth of God's word, because at the end of the day, even death itself does not make us afraid. because you can't kill a Christian. We just change locations. Charlie Kirk, they didn't kill him. He's just now in the presence of God in heaven. And so that's why as Christians, we cannot fear. And that is why Christianity has always multiplied because of persecution. I think that you've probably seen this in the States. We've definitely seen revival ever since the death of Charlie Kirk. Our church that weekend doubled in attendance and it's been full ever since. And I was thinking about this. why is it that persecution always leads to revival? You know, that Tertullian, how he said, the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. Why? Why does persecution lead to revival? And I believe it's because, I don't know about you, but on that day, the day after Charlie Kirk, I woke up with one question on my mind. And that question was, am I willing to die for this? I just saw somebody. I saw a video of someone die for the truth that they spoke, die for the sake of God And so I woke up with one question Am I willing to die for this And that is why I believe persecution leads to revival because anybody who sitting on the fence who has been lukewarm in their faith, who's been too comfortable in their Christianity, they're out. If my life is on the line, I'm out of Christianity. I'm not willing to go all the way. If I wasn't even willing to live for God, I'm not going to be willing to die for God. And so what we're seeing now is no matter what kind of persecution comes our way, no matter what threats we get, I believe on a macro scale, we will see Christianity flourish more and more. We will multiply more and more because we will wake up and remember what we always should have remembered as Christians is that we should never fear anything for the sake of speaking truth. You can unfollow me. You can hate me. You can send me mean comments. Nothing is going to stop me from preaching the truth because I know who whose I am and I know where I'm going. Amen. amen yeah we were just in nigeria like like you alluded to and we were able to connect with ezekiel dachimo they call the voice of nigeria he's nigeria's pastor he's one of the only ones speaking up because they kill him if you speak up as a pastor in nigeria and speak out against the violence they will kill you yeah but he's gotten too big now and so you can't kill him because then he becomes an international martyr right and so the government has literally attached armed security to him because they don't want him dying but guess what happened i get back from the trip. I connected with Ezekiel. He came, uh, in the middle of the night and we did a podcast in an undisclosed location, snuck him in to the Capitol and Abuja and we did a podcast in the middle of the night and I get home and I'm messaging with him and I say, Hey, send me all your clips. I'm going to edit your clips. I'm going to send like, I'll send them to your son. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to get this, this news out there. The next day I get all these missed calls from him and I'm like, Oh, something just happened. So I got on the phone with him they banned him off facebook the next day we start an instagram account for him start posting i post on my story hey go follow is he gildachimo they just banned him off facebook the next day they banned him off instagram so the question becomes why don't they just kill him because that's not as powerful as silencing him if you kill him he becomes a martyr right if you silence him no one talks about it and so that to me clued me in when they killed charlie the next day what i realized is my entire ministry shifted what i've been seeing is kind of like my b ministry which was social media yeah became my a ministry yeah and i was like my voice right now is more valuable than these big projects that i have there needs to be more people that are standing up and using their voice and i think right now the tactic of islam the tactic of the death cult in its entirety that four-headed death cult that you alluded to that their tactic is to silence you like they did charlie kirk but guess what they don't understand what tertullian understood yeah that the blood of the martyrs is the thief of the church yeah they don't understand that but but some people do understand it yeah and those are the people that are silencing ezekiel document they don't want to kill him no in fact let's attach armed security to you let's make sure nobody can kill you even though there's a bounty on your head from the terrorist but what we will do is we're going to try to steal your voice yeah and the whole goal is to put fear in you and this is a lot of people it's it's a lot of christians in america the problem with you is the problem with america is a lot of christians are silent out of fear i don't want to lose followers i don't want to lose my job i don't want to i don't want to get hurt i don't want to get i don't want to lose my friends or family and the spirit of fear really paralyzes you like they think the american pulpit a lot of preachers think they're free but they're not they're paralyzed I think in the spirit realm, if you were to look at a lot of American pastors, you would see them paralyzed. They're in a wheelchair. They think they're free. They're like, yeah, I got a church. I got a mega church. I got a pulpit. I got the money. I got the car. I got the green room. But no, man, you're paralyzed. How do you know you're paralyzed? You wanted to speak about something and the Holy Spirit told you to speak about something, but you couldn't do it. God told you to speak about abortion, but you couldn't do it. God told you to speak about gay marriage, but you couldn't do it. You were scared. and really the deep issue here is the problem is not fear it's who do you fear everybody fears someone the reason we preach is not because we're some heroic heroes that don't have fear in us we have fear of course we have fear but the difference is and this is the thing God says do not fear man who can kill your body but rather fear God who can throw both body and soul into hell so the goal is not to stop fearing the goal is to fear someone higher the goal is to not stop being scared of you for your life it's to fear someone who's able to chuck both body and soul into hell so when i preach on the pulpit or when i'm walking around i'm like i could get scared of that guy in the crowd that doesn't like me and doesn't agree with my sermon or i could fear god the moment i touch that pulpit the fear of god falls onto me every word i say god would judge me double the harshness every every word i say if i lead these people astray their blood will be on my hands if i don't sound the alarm bells their blood will be on my hands if i don't tell people don't kill your babies their blood will be on my hands as long as i speak and the thing is the outcome is not in my hands people must still abort their babies they still might you know go through the transgender gender surgery they might still allow islam my my job is not the victory my job is to wash my hands lord i've done my part exactly now you do the conviction and and i think a lot of americans don't know what season it is yeah it is the season of john the baptist which means what you might be beheaded 100 the problem with david when he was looking at basheba notice what it says before that before he went and slept with her it says in the springtime when kings go to war david was on his couch looking at a naked woman and right now it's war that's it you're right in the spirit you're right and you have too many davids that are sitting on their couch looking at a naked woman instead of going to war yeah how do we war our battle is not against flesh and blood but we pull down strongholds with the power of the holy spirit through our prayers through our fasting and with our voice. And the death cult is trying to silence the Christians right now. So what's the call? What's the call from Charlie Kirk? And then what's the call from Jesus in the spirit of Elijah, in the spirit of John the Baptist, in the spirit of the warrior David that needs to go out through America and out through the earth? It's to not be silent. And right now, like you nailed it, there are so many pastors that are in a wheelchair not even knowing their parents. And how revival is going to happen, it's going to happen through the blood of the martyrs. A hundred percent. And we just saw one in America, but there's revival breaking out in Pakistan. There's revival breaking out in China. There's revival breaking out in Nigeria. And why? Because there are people like Ezekiel Dachimo who are not afraid to be silent even though there's a bounty on his head from the terrorists. Yeah, and we've really made a decision. God, let your will be done. Let your will be done. I'm not here. I'm not here. I don't decide what happens with my life. I live every day as if God would take me tonight. If God is going to take me tonight, let's go. yeah if god if live every and i encourage every listener live as though the lord is returning tonight live as though it's your last day to live what would you do yeah what has god been putting on your heart yeah to warn your friends about um what has got like i remember someone last week stopped millie at the pool yeah what did that lady say to you yeah she she was so afraid of having children she'd grown up with that kind of feminist idea that children are going to ruin her life she was afraid you know i don't know if she was considering abortion or what because she'd already fallen pregnant but then she'd seen just a video just one singular video of mine just about how children are a gift from the lord they're like arrows in the hands of a warrior and the point i made is that i realized the problem is never the arrows the problem is never the children children are always a gift they're never a burden the problem is in whose hands the arrows lie in so if you see yourself as a warrior here to advance the kingdom of heaven then children become I'm a blessing. But if you see yourself as, I'm not a warrior. I'm not here to advance anything. I'm just living for myself, my own pleasure and my own comfort. That's when children become a burden to you. And she'd just seen that. Well, you were talking earlier, your flip of submission when we were talking earlier, like because you are, like we've alluded to, you are a firecracker on social media. You're getting after it. And you guys, like as a couple, are charging the death cult. Like you are literally reclaiming what the enemy has stolen. yeah but your lane seems to be more feminism womanhood yeah submission yeah abortion where did that fire come from yeah it's funny like whenever i go to women's conferences i get invited to speak to a room full of women i'm like god what should i speak about you know i've got all of these women in front of me it's like okay what are the two biggest demons attacking the women and the body of christ right now for the women it's feminism and it's abortion and like you know you don't go to many women's conferences and hear people talk about abortion and i know people like when i start speaking about it it's like i feel this pushback they're like why are you talking to me about this flourish baby flourish yeah well because like you know like people have this idea of women's conferences that the only thing women go through struggle with and need to hear about is shame i'm like well i think there are some other issues in the body of christ that we should address right now and it's like if i'm in a room full of women right now what else am I going to speak about that? We kill 73 million babies every single year. And so, yeah. And so, I mean, for me personally, it was probably seven years ago. I was just in my room encountering God, you know, just on my knees, seeking him, praying. And I just felt how grieved the Holy Spirit was over the bloodshed of these innocent babies. It wasn't anything that I came to on my own. You know, sometimes I tell people sometimes encounters with God leave you feeling uplifted and whatever sometimes these encounters with god leave you feeling grieved yeah leave you with a righteous indignation where it's like i cannot do anything now but speak about this otherwise his hand will be heavy on me his word is like a fire shut up in my bones and i will be weary if i don't talk about it it was like that for me where eight years ago i just felt how grieved the holy spirit was about this topic specifically abortion and so it was i had two options either and I knew that when I speak about this, I decided, all right, I'm going to post about this tomorrow. And I knew overnight that I would lose everybody in my world. I made this one post and my entire church, old church family, just completely turned. My pastors, the people that I'd looked up to all my life was like, how dare you speak about this? About abortion. You're being hateful. Yeah. And the whole post was just saying that the enemy seeks to steal, kill, and destroy, but Jesus came that we might have life. It's so clear that God is, Jesus is pro-life. It's so clear. But I had a decision to make. Either I can keep on to my old friends, make sure everybody loves me and is happy with me, or, but at the same time, feel weary in my soul. Know that I am disobeying the call of God in my life. Know that he is grieved, and I'm just acting like I don't care about it, or I can speak about it, lose my friends, but please my father. And I made that decision. i have to please my father above man and so yeah bear in mind millie wasn't always like this fireball millie was very quiet yeah very very quiet in school people yeah like anybody if i've like whenever i share my story like if social anxiety was a person i was that growing up i used like even the thought of speaking in front of a crowd i wasn't even there yet for me just speaking to somebody one-on-one after church i used to hide in the restrooms after church like terrified to even have a conversation with people because i was just terrified of speaking and then god's like hey um that's a word for someone yeah that's a word for someone listening right now yeah that's like i just don't have these guys fire yeah i guess god just didn't build me that way yeah i don't have that personality i don't have that loudness i don't have that courage i'm like yeah that's not a personality trait it's not it's not gender it's not like i tell people it's not height thank the lord because i'm very vertically challenged boldness has nothing to do with that boldness comes in the presence of God in Acts 4 when the people saw the boldness of Peter and John it says they were amazed at their boldness and it made them realize they had been walking with Jesus so where does boldness come from it comes in the presence of God when you walk with Jesus long enough and you get in his presence there is a boldness that comes and I think it's because I had gotten on my knees before God I knew he wanted me to speak about abortion so there was a boldness to it because I'm not speaking my own ideas this is what God wants to say to his people right now and i don't care if i lose people i don't care if you hate me i don't care what happens i have god on my side as i speak and i think a lot of people too they're like there's this this idea that like well you know the the gospel is going to go out through love yes and they think that what you're talking about is different than that yes but when we look at the book of romans i believe it's chapter 12 it says abhor what is evil yeah hold fast to what is good it says let love be genuine okay now now we're waiting for it yeah hate what is evil or what is evil cling to what is good yeah so love is to hate what is evil yeah and i think so many christians are just like well you know like we need to love and and and we've adopted this definition of love that comes from i don't know where it comes from the enemy yeah that we're just supposed to tolerate yeah that love is to tolerate yeah and you hear that all the time like love is love yeah and you know Like, who am I to tell that person? And I do think that there is a certain nuance there where Jesus is attacking the Pharisees. He's going after the Pharisees more than he's going after the people outside the church. And so are we to conquer as Christians? No. Are we to protect our sheep as shepherds? 100%. And there are wolves in the death cult that are coming after the sheep. And that's the calling of some people. That is clearly the calling of you guys. we are to be the salt in the light of the earth what does the salt do it preserves yep and i i think i think you you as a christian it's it's the the truth has to always be said and you always got to do it in love the way it comes across might come across mean but in the bottom of our heart it's always through love it's always about love like when i tell people from the crowd repent of your sin repent of your homosexuality those who are homosexual the homosexual the drunkard the greedy the thief will not inherit the kingdom of god that might seem hateful but that's not hateful that's the most loving thing I can do to you. That is the most loving thing I can do to you in a crowd as I preach is not to tell you just that Jesus loves you. Sometimes it's to tell you repent of your sin. You're going to hell, bro. Like you are going to. Sometimes the most loving thing to do is to tell a young couple sleeping together, if you don't repent, you're going to go to hell. And I might come across harsh, but this is the power of the gospel. The power of the gospel is sometimes it cuts you and it hurts, right? When Peter preached, it says the people will cut to the heart. They were convicted. And then 3,000 people saved. And that's what we're saying. We preach the gospel and have the crowd get offended, have the crowd repent. And I think it's both sides. If everyone hates you, maybe there's something wrong. You're probably just mean. You're just mean. But if everybody likes you as a preacher and a Christian, you're also doing something wrong. I love losing followers. Like a lot of influencers and preachers measure how many followers they get. I don't just measure followers. I measure unfollowers. because if the unfollowers are not going up, I'm not doing right. You're probably not saying anything. Well, me and Millie, you know, together combine about 10,000 followers a week we get. Unfollowers, we get about 2,000 unfollowers. So I love it. I love the unfollowers going up. Keep unfollowing me. Why? I don't want the whole world to agree with me. I just want the people of God to agree with me. So the unfollowers keep going up and Jesus said it. You will be hated. In this world, you will be hated. if they hated me how much more would they hate you if they crucified me how much more would they kill you so i think we got to just make peace with not being liked by everyone yeah right make peace with not being liked by everyone make peace with not being um accepted by the crowd and the bible covers that tension because the bible also talks i think it's in peter talks about how make sure the reason you are hated is not because of your conduct and your behavior so it's very simple as a Christian, you are supposed to love the people that you were speaking to. That's the, that's the reason we speak the truth because we love them. We don't want to see them go to hell. We want to be with them in heaven. The basis of why we speak is love, but we must speak whatever the word of God says. I believe our duty is to do what God told Jeremiah, stand in the courtyard of your God, speak everything I've commanded you and do not omit a word. What we have today is a lot of christians putting the word of god on the scales and deciding this is this is a loving thing to say this is not a loving thing to say right right and and i think it's pretty clear from jesus speak the truth in love yeah and i think there are some times where you can speak the truth and have it not be loving yeah you can go up to someone and say you're gonna burn in hell for eternity and that person yeah they just came to your church they're fresh you know uh curious believe that wasn't loving yeah 100 might it to be true maybe but yeah but truth without love is harsh love without truth is hollow yeah so we need to we need to speak the truth in love and sometimes the truth offends people jesus said hey this is going to divide people i've come to bring a sword like you're gonna like hate your father and mother in comparison to your love this is going to divide families so i've i've lost relationship with families based off of what i post yeah yeah like like some of my family members have been like not talking to you anymore yeah and as i'm sure you guys have clearly you've experienced as well and and that's okay yeah that's okay because because like you said we need to have the fear of the lord over the fear of man because he can throw soul and body into the pits of hell yeah and so and preachers now but preachers now don't want to mention the word repent they don't want to preach to repent sin hell so they want to say jesus preach yeah well they want to preach all the lovey stuff love you know uh love accepted welcome as you are come as you are all this stuff which is amazing but if your pastor doesn't preach about repentance sin and hell he's not a real pastor because that's all across scripture um if you go to if someone goes to a church where their pastor has a mentioned sin hell or repentance in the last year i'm sorry you're not a part of a church you're a part of an entertainment club um this is a social club because as you said the first message that john about this preach was repent the first message jesus preached was repent the first message peter preached was repent yeah all the revivalists across history john wesley and charles wesley preach repentance billy graham preached repentance jonathan edwards preached repentance yeah george whitford preached repentance and now we're having a 21st century apparently new mega church preachers and i'm i'm not attacking mega church i love mega churches i think the kingdom of god should be mega the problem is is the problem is are you going to preach the truth of the bible even if you're mega church loses half its crowd yeah you're not willing to lose your crowd you're not you're not serving the lord you're serving people yeah and it's i believe it's the reason so many christians are deconstructing because what are you supposed to make of if your pastor never mentions hell repent then you go home and do some bible plan as a new believer and you read all of this stuff in the bible you have two options either you believe your pastor is is not uh disclosing everything the word of God says and is holding some stuff back from you, which you're less likely to believe because your first thought would be your pastor is here to shepherd me, loves me, cares about me. The other alternative is to believe that the Bible is not authoritative. Maybe the Bible is a story. Maybe it's just a guide. It's not the authoritative word of God. That's what you're doing to people. If you don't speak the truth, they have two options. And what's going to end up happening is probably they're going to end up not seeing the Bible as true. Or they'll see God as harsh. They'll see the Bible as harsh. They're focusing. People like to read the stories of Jesus where he's touching the leper, the adulteress, the woman called an adultery. And these stories are amazing. But when you only read these stories or when you only read the New Testament, you might get a bad or a false or an incomplete picture of Jesus. You see an effeminate Jesus. People see an effeminate Jesus. Every time they see Jesus, he's carrying a lamb in the photo in the church. He's carrying a lamb. He's a nice white guy with long hair and beautiful beard. He's got the kids around him. He's beautiful. But you've got to realize you've got to read the full Bible. You've got to read the Old Testament and the New Testament. And how he's coming back. Yeah, and he's coming back. You're right because the thing is Jesus is not just spoken of as the lamb of God. He is the lion of Judah. So when you look at Jesus, you shouldn't just see a lamb, a nice, peaceful, meek lamb. No, no. He is a Lion of Judah, a roaring lion. The first time Jesus came, he came in a manger. The second time he's not coming in a manger. He's coming on a throne. The first time he came, he came as a baby. The second time he's coming as a king. The first time Jesus came, he hung on a cross surrounded by criminals. The second time he comes, he's not going to be surrounded by criminals. He's going to be surrounded by the armies of heaven. So these guys need to understand. Jesus is not some meek, just meek, weak. he's not weak he's not effeminate he's the greatest masculine example you could ever imagine which is both meekness and strength it's both meekness and strength it's both humility and courage and boldness it's all combined don't get one without the other amen amen so dude you guys holy smokes the one thing Ryan the thing about for me I know we're going back to Islam but I think Americans need to be equipped on Islam has a very deceiving they have a deceiving side of them they Muhammad lied a lot in his lifetime Muhammad like one time signed a 10 year peace treaty and then two years later he comes back and kills them Allah is spoken of as a deceiver in the Quran Allah their God like on the cross on the cross apparently Jesus was on the cross for them and Allah took Jesus and put someone that looked like him and apparently deceived deceive 2.7 billion Christians around. So what's very dangerous about Islam is this deceiving side of them. And a lot of Christians, you might hear a Muslim tell you, Is that just not Takiyah? No, so there's Takiyah. And then there's another side where, so the Muslims come up to Christians and Muslims say to Christians, we're brothers. Muslims say, we believe in Jesus. Have you heard a Muslim say before, we believe in Jesus. We're brothers, man. We also believe in him. And this is a deceiving thing about them is they try to make the Christians think Islam is just another, you know, denomination of Christianity. Another Abrahamic religion. Another Abrahamic religion. Those Judaism, Christianity, Islam is all the same. Islam is not a religion. It's a heresy of Christianity. Islam is not an Abrahamic religion. It's a heresy of Christianity. It's an anti-Christ religion. So they want to say we believe in Jesus. And Muslims do believe in Jesus. Muslims believe in Jesus. The name Isa which is Jesus in the Quran is repeated 25 times in the Quran They believe in a virgin birth They believe that Jesus healed the sick open the eyes of the blind they believe that Jesus raised the dead yeah so they they have all these things that close to the character of Jesus in the Bible and they say we believe in Jesus too but this is where the deceiving part comes in the deceiving part comes in this Romans 10 9 says if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved so in Christianity the three key words in this verse Lord death and resurrection that's really the three the three foundations of our Christology or study of Christ is that we believe Jesus was crucified Jesus died on the cross and he was resurrected if you take any of these three theologies out or doctrines out you're not a Christian anymore Muhammad comes 600 years after Jesus and flips the whole thing so he says Jesus is not God he's a prophet lie number one so all my Christians listening the Muslims believe in Jesus but he's not God he's a prophet That's not my Jesus. So lie number one, we believe Jesus is God. They believe he's a prophet. Lie number one. Lie number two, we believe Jesus died on the cross for the sins of the world. They believe Jesus didn't die on the cross. Allah saved him and replaced him with someone that resembled him. Lie number two. Lie number three, we believe Jesus was resurrected. Islam believes he wasn't resurrected because he never died. So this is kind of the deception is Islam would never unite with, Christianity would never unite with Islam. In fact, in Nigeria, there was a part of Nigeria 20 years ago where they wanted to create a new religion called Krizlam. Krizlam was a unity of Islam and Christianity combining saying, we believe in Abraham. We believe in Noah. We believe in Moses. We believe in all these things. And they wanted to unite it. And a lot of Muslims and Christians fell for it. But Christianity can't unite with Islam. We believe Jesus is the son of God. Their Jesus is the teacher of truth. Our Jesus is the truth. they believe in Jesus was just a good guy we believe he is goodness he is perfect and he's God in the flesh so Christians really got to be careful when talking to a Muslim don't get deceived even the main beef I think Muslims have with Christians is like how can God be three in one well if you have a God that is love he has to be in relationship from the beginning of time exactly and what is love if it's not relationship you cannot have you can't just have like i am a singular god who is the embodiment of love because love has to have another to love and so fundamentally islam is not a religion of love like christianity is religion religion of love because of their you know uh rejection of the trinity yeah and the other problem muslims always say where does jesus say his god jesus never came to be god jesus never said his god i'm like really why did they crucify Why did they cry blasphemy? Why did they cry blasphemy? Why did they kill Jesus? But wait a second. John 1.1. John 1.1 says, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And in John 1.14, 13 verses later, it says, The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Who was the Word that became flesh? Jesus Christ. In the beginning was the Word. Jesus was there from the beginning. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. So Jesus, the Bible is very clear that Jesus is God. And even let us make man in our own image. What is the plural there? Who's the us? What about when Jesus says, before Abraham was, I am. That I am for us reading it today in the 21st century, you think it's just a name. No, this name in the Old Testament was one of the most revered names. You couldn't say that name. Why they wanted to kill him for blasphemy. That's why when Moses says to God, if they ask me who sent you, Tell them, I am has sent you. That's the God of the Old Testament. So Jesus said, before Abraham was, I am. What Jesus was saying to them is the God I am in the Old Testament, the God that saved you from Pharaoh, the God that split the Red Seas, the God that provided a pillar of fire and a pillar of cloud, that's me in the flesh. Jesus was saying, here I am. And what about Hebrews? Hebrews says, it says, of the Son, he says, this is the Father speaking. Hebrews, in the book of Hebrews, it says, of the son he says the father speaking about jesus of the son he says your throne oh god stands forever the father called jesus god so so the muslims always come after the three things they come after christology which we just covered did jesus is jesus god did he claim to be god they come after trinitarian theology which you just spoke about um and they come after bibliology is the bible yeah accurate um there's so much corruption in the bible yeah you know well it's interesting how they'll accuse christians of there's being corruption in the bible contradictions um which they they give bad examples when you look at the contradictions it's like it's like things like how one gospel says jesus was a carpenter and another says he was the carpenter's son oh that's a contradiction it's like oh no maybe he's both he's both a carpenter and a carpenter's son because that's what you did in that time you always did what your father did How many variants do they say there is? They say that there's 44,000 contradictions in our manuscripts. But when you look at them, 99% of those variations is things like spelling or in the Greek language, like the movable new, which makes no difference to meaning whatsoever. But in comparison, if you want to attack the history of the Bible, we have 23,000 manuscripts. Historians are amazed at the amount of manuscripts we have that the reason that's such a good thing is because you have so many different texts how do you know what the original said you look at these 23 000 manuscripts and if they're all saying this and then one says something else you know that this is what the original said whereas in the early history of islam this guy named uthman realized that there were different texts and variations and so his solution to these different these different uh quranic versions was to just gather them from all of the Muslims and to burn them and to make one standardized version of the Quran so historically the Quran does not pass any of the tests whatsoever they don't have all these manuscripts therefore they don't have all these variations because they burnt all of them so you can't know what the originals and then you got this abrogation so your abrogation in Islam abrogation is this idea that the later verses that the verses because there's a lot of contradictions in the quran so muhammad for example would say um you can have uh you can have two wives yeah and then all of a sudden later he's like actually guys i got a revelation you can have three and then all of a sudden actually guys i got an updated revelation you can have four these revelations all coincide with his his new girl yeah literally it actually so muhammad so muhammad has two wives and he's like guys you can have two wives all of a sudden he sees another beautiful woman he's like guys wait i'm having a vision allah spoke to me allah came to me and he told me i can have three wives yeah and then all of a sudden muhammad goes all the way to 11 he has 11 wives and then he's not happy he's not his sexual perversion is not satisfied enough he sees a young girl a six-year-old ayesha he sees a six-year-old muhammad is 54 years old he sees ayesha at the age of six yeah and he speaks to the father what is that the father Allah gave me a revelation. What is that revelation? Allah told me that's my wife. Imagine if a 54-year-old guy comes up to you, says, hey, your daughter, your six-year-old daughter, God told me I got a man. That's what he did. And the man fought back. He's like, what? By the end, he had to give him, that's the founder of Islam. And the crazy thing is, when you bring that up to Muslims today, they go, well, they didn't have sex until she was nine. Yeah, that makes us so much better. Oh, wow, the self-control. You're right. It's like, oh, nine, you're so kind, man. Thank you so much. It's like, so Muhammad, 54 years old, marries a user at the age of six. I wouldn't say slept with her. I'd say he raped her at the age of nine, really. Like, I know that word people don't use it, but you don't sleep with a nine-year-old. You rape a nine-year-old. One nine-year-old consents to sex. This was sexual perversion, demonic activity at a whole other level. And he sleeps with her at nine or rapes her at nine. And this is kind of the – and still to today, by the way, in Muslim countries, Muslims under Sharia law there's still child brides. Like you know in Afghanistan just the end of last year a man, a 40 year old guy a 44 year old guy in Afghanistan went to the government and said I want to marry this 6 year old. He applied to be married to a 6 year old. He's 44, applied to be married to a 6 year old. The government intervenes the Taliban in Afghanistan they intervene and they say no you can't marry a 6 year old. And I read that I was like this is awesome thank the Lord. What did they tell him? They say no you got to wait until she's 9. I'm like, wow, thank you. You're so kind. You made him wait till she's nine. That's so nice of you. And again, they're simply following their prophet. They're simply following their founder. That is their founder. And Muhammad, by the way, is not one of the prophets because a lot of Muslims that say, oh, what about Solomon? He has 900 wives and concubines. What about David? He slept with Meshiba and killed her husband Uriah. We don't worship them. What about Noah? He's your people. He's your people. You're right. we never not our god the bible is not it's not everything is prescriptive it's descriptive yes so all these things explain that real fast so everybody listening not everything you read in the bible is god telling you you're allowed to do that yes so solomon had 900 wives and concubines god is not telling you you can have 900 wives and concubines um abraham you know slept with hagar his servant god is not telling you to sleep with someone who's not your wife that is what you call descriptive god is this the writers are describing the narrative and describing the story then there's prescriptive prescriptive is god is prescribing every believer across the nation eternally across the world every time space and culture this is prescription for you on how to live so the question is that's where the muslims deceive the christians they say but solomon did that i'm like that's descriptive not prescriptive right the prescriptive things is the teachings of Paul. The prescriptive things are the teaching of the disciples, the gospels, the teaching of Jesus, the Beatitudes. That's prescriptive that we live by. And that's why, by the way, when Solomon, after he had 900 wives and concubines, what did God do? He split his kingdom. He punished him. David sleeps with Bathsheba and kills her husband Uriah. What does God do? He punishes him. Now people were actually punished for their sin. Muhammad, on the other hand, sleeps with a nine-year-old, and apparently he's going to get a reward in heaven. Yeah, he gets a new revelation. Yeah. Which is the application. Dang it. Okay, so what do we do? I think there's information is really powerful to educate people on this is coming to America. There is a spirit of Islam that is moving in these four phases that you've talked about. What does the average listener do right now? What do they make of all of this? Yeah, everyone listening, a few things. Number one, get your life right with God. Get your life right with God. Stop being a lukewarm Christian. There's no more room for lukewarm Christianity. God in Revelation to the church and later see you, he says, you're neither cold nor hot. You're lukewarm. You're in the middle. And he says, I wish you were cold or hot. And because of that, God says to the church and later see you, I will spit you out of my mouth. And I think that the Americans, one of the most important things, because I find a lot of Americans are fighting Islam, but they don't understand one of the ways to fight Islam is to have Christians who are strong in their faith. Have strength. Be strong and courageous in your faith. Live holy. And this might sound simple, like how do you fight Islam? Live holy. I really do believe when Christians live right, the nation will be blessed. If you're getting drunk, stop getting drunk. if you're sleeping with someone who's not your wife, stop it if you're cussing and swearing, stop it be a part of a local church be a part of a biblical church don't be a part of a work weak church don't be a part of a church that doesn't preach the truth, that doesn't tell you that marriage is between a man and a woman be a part of a biblically faithful church build the kingdom of God and let's fight for this country by the way what you're saying is completely biblical this was God's warning to the people of Israel that if they, you know, if they intermarry, if they enjoy the false gods of the enemy nations, if they start disobeying the law, God's law, and they start, you know, adopting these practices from these false gods, then these enemy nations will take over. They will rule over them. That's Deuteronomy 22 or 23. They will rule over you. That will be the punishment. So the truth is if the christians do not start living holy do not start returning to god's word and god's standard of righteousness and holiness if we start you know intermarrying with these false gods of secularism of feminism of abortion lgbtq the punishment from god will be to hand us over to the enemies if we forsake god if we forsake the bible then god's way of punishing historically all throughout the Bible is to hand you over as captives to the enemy so that you wake up and return to your God. And I don't want to go to Babylon. Like, can we wake up before we go to Babylon? I don't want to go there. Yeah, don't mess with sin. America thinks sin is fun and games and all that. No, there's a holy God in heaven. There's a holy God in heaven. You cannot raise the pride flag over your country and expect blessing on your country. America is raising a pride flag over the country. We'll have pride month. to have pride parades. You think God is going to let you go? God's going to punish you. You kill one million babies in a womb every year and you think God is going to let you go? You think you can mock the holiness and the justice of God? Don't mess around with the Holy God. God is righteous. You think you can mix with foreign gods and God won't destroy you? That was a warning of all the prophets in the Old Testament. Stop mixing with foreign gods. Stop mixing. You have Christians now. I hear so many stories of Christians marrying non-Christians. a Christian marrying a Muslim a Christian marrying an atheist a Christian marrying a Hindu I'm like don't you remember the warning of the prophets do not intermarry with the pagans do not intermarry don't intermarry it's not cool and there's no such thing as flirt to convert and you know he's on his journey with the Lord he's going to come to God no if he gets drunk don't marry him if he's a Muslim don't marry him if he cusses and swears don't marry an unbeliever marry the people of god let's keep christianity christian let's keep christian families christian let's keep let's get strong marriages back um i would tell young people stop hooking up like hook up culture yeah stop with this hook up culture uh get married get married have children go to church have lots of children if you have two children have four if you have four have six come on bro seriously build we need to practice what we preach yeah we have one another six coming we have a long way to go you have four I don't know we'll see what happens but really this is kind of from a from a down up war the war the war on on Islam and notice by the way how I say Islam not Muslims everyone needs to understand we love Muslims we hate Islam amen we actually hate Islam because we love Muslims we hate Islam because we love Muslims are the victims of Islam. Because we're not waging against flesh and blood. It's satanic at its core. And he hates the people that are actually Muslim. And again, me saying I love the Muslims does not mean I want them in my country. Everybody needs to understand. You saying I love the Muslims does not mean you bring a million of them or a hundred thousand of them into your country and say I love them. And it's the problem a lot of people are saying, I want to save the Muslims. A lot of people say that, right? And it's a great heart. It's a great prayer and desire. I want to save the Muslims. That was my dad's desire. My dad's desire was to save the Muslims. And we did see it. And a few points when it comes to Christians saying, I want to save the Muslims. Therefore, let's bring them into our country. Number one, Muslims are getting saved all around the world. There is a revival in Muslim nations right now. There is a revival in Muslim nations right now. In Indonesia, I was just preaching in Indonesia. I'm literally preaching and there's a lady in a hijab sitting down listening to my sermon. She's a Christian. She just doesn't want to take her hijab off so she doesn't get killed on this earth. God is moving. Indonesia has 100,000 Muslims convert to Christianity every single year. Iran has 75,000 mosques. By 2023, 50,000 mosques out of the 75 shut down. Wow. Praise God. In Gaza in 2023, 200 Gazans saw visions of Jesus Christ on the same night and became Christians. Wow. So for all my Christians that are like, man, let's bring the Muslims in America and into the West so we can save them. Don't worry. God's saving them in the Middle East. Yeah, he's got it. So number one, God is already moving in the Middle East. Number two, in order to save Muslims, you don't need to bring them into your country. You go to their countries. That's the point of missionaries. Right? Missionaries. That's the core. and the american church has forgotten about that god said go into the world not bring the world right god says go the great commission go into all the world preach the gospel make disciples baptize them you don't bring them here you don't bring the pagan cultures here you don't bring the islamists here and then save them here you send missionaries out and that's the hard part because you know i was talking to my buddy who really understands the geopolitical situation in nigeria And I'm like, what is the answer? And he goes, martyrs. Yeah. Christian martyrs being sent to the north to be killed. And I was like, oh my gosh, I hate that answer. Yeah. I hate that answer. Yeah. But it is, I think I hate it because I realize it's what needs to happen. Yeah. And I think that that's where the boldness comes from. That's why the disciples prayed for boldness because they probably knew they were going to be killed. Yeah. They probably figured it out along the way. Like, ooh, this isn't going to end with rainbows and butterflies. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. So I would love, as we kind of land this plane here, I would love for you guys to pray for boldness for the listener. Could maybe both of you guys pray over a listener who's maybe hearing this and they're like, dang, they're feeling a little bit of nervousness of the fact that Islam is coming to the West. Right. But also understand that there's a call on all of our lives. Yeah. And maybe they don't feel ready to step into that. Could you just pray for their boldness? Yeah. Amen. Let's pray. Yeah. yeah wherever you are right now listening believe that the holy spirit can fill you where you're at yeah really pray from the bottom of your heart um the same way millie wasn't courageous and she prayed for courage and god gave it to her yeah same as me i wasn't courageous my first sermon i did i halfway through my sermon i cried dropped my bible and ran out and if it wasn't for god's courage we wouldn't be here so i really believe with a young old whatever country you're listening to let's pray lord we thank you god we thank you lord that you have not given us a spirit of fear but a spirit of power and a sound mind, Lord. I thank you, God, that where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom, God. And I pray right now, Holy Spirit, you are omnipresent. You are everywhere at the same time and right there, God, in their living room, in their bedroom, in their car as they're listening. Lord, right now we speak, Holy Spirit, that you would fill that place therein. And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. We speak freedom from fear. We speak freedom from timidity. We speak freedom, Lord, from being a coward. We speak freedom, God, from the fear of man. And we declare courage and boldness. We declare, God, as you said to Joshua, be strong and courageous. For the Lord your God is with you wherever you go. God, we say that to ourselves. Be strong and courageous. Be strong and courageous for the Lord your God is with you. Not strong and courageous because we're strong or we're good or we're good at speaking or intellectual, God, or smart. But, God, be strong because you are with us. That was your promise, Lord, in the Great Commission. You said to the disciples, go into all the world, preach the gospel, make disciples and baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. And you said, be sure of this. I am with you to the end of the days. Thank you, Lord, that as we preach, disciple and baptize people, this is your promise. You are with us, God. You are with us in Africa. You are with us in Nigeria. You are with us in America, Australia, Europe and Canada. Lord, in every country, your spirit is with us, God. you'll go before us and behind us and you surround us Lord I pray Lord for a hedge of protection around your people I pray the blood of Jesus over all of us God as we preach over Millie and I over Ryan over the listeners over the pastors in Nigeria and the Christians in Nigeria and the persecuted church around the world Lord we pray for your protection a hedge of protection I pray for signs and wonders and miracles Lord let your name be glorified and bring revival in America and across the nations in the name of Jesus Amen Amen Lord I just pray God in the same way Peter and John prayed for the early believers in Acts 4. They prayed for boldness to fill your church, to fill your body, to fill the believers so they would be bold, unashamed, unafraid to speak your truth, God, in the same way that boldness was an answer to prayer by your spirit. I just trust right now as we pray for boldness over every listener that your spirit would go out and fill every heart, every listener, every person listening to this podcast right now. We trust that it is by your spirit that we experience boldness courage and lord we know god that it is when we already decide today that we are willing to lose our lives for you god for the sake of truth for the sake of the gospel god if we can just die now to ourselves then nothing will cause us fear god we decide and we commit to you right now god we decide right now god that we fear you above any man we fear you god above any persecution, any threat. And we decide, God, now, today, that we are willing to lose our lives for you because you already gave your life for us. We trust you with our lives. We trust you with our platforms. We trust you, God, with everything about our lives. We give it, we cast it into your hands, Lord. And I just pray that courage and boldness would reign in Jesus' name, amen. Amen. Amen. And guys, continue to pray for Martin and Millicent. As you can tell, they're on the front lines right now. and you guys have death threats. You guys have people that are after you. And so we just cover you right now in the name of Jesus, with the blood of Jesus, with the protection of the warring angels that surround you in your home, in your church, as you go to the market, wherever you are, Lord. And we all just collectively, even the listener right now, would you please pray for them? Would you remember them in your prayers? And we believe that you will provide a hedge of protection around them, Lord. Yes. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. You guys are awesome, man. Amen. Guys, thank you for joining us on the Jesus People podcast. That was a good one. We will see you guys next week.