Deon Cole

This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. R&B Money! R&B Money! R&B! We are... Tank! Take the rabbit's hat. We are... The authorities. On all things R&B. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank. I'm Jay Valentine. In this, come on. The authority. On all things R&B. And when Niggas start telling R&B stories. Everywhere else. But now. They're sitting with the authority. Yeah. Got a DJ that thing over here now. Yeah. In a mini-tallance. And fast cars. Ferrari himself. No, my God damn nerves. One of the funniest niggas of all times. Man. With just his eyebrows. You got a joke where he just moves. His eyebrows. He's fucking hilarious. His man's rich. Very rich. I don't think it's closed touching his closet. I stole that joke from him. Nice to join him. Mr. D. Arco. Yay! Oh man. Oh, I'm silly. Welcome, brother. Welcome. Thank you, man. This is such an honor to be here with you guys, man. You know it's crazy. It's like... I think Jay and I are the same way. You never get comfortable when you know somebody. I've seen so much of you before I knew you. And I was like a fan of what you were doing before I even got to shake your hand. And be like, man, you know, it's great. But drink. It's way before that. It's like, it's my fucking thing I'm going in and in and in. I mean, cold. Tell me what she doing tonight. I'm telling you. You know what I'm saying? And so for me, it's like... I never get comfortable with you today. I don't know you. No, no. Thank you, man. Same head with you, man. With both of you guys. It's like... You were a fan of somebody's work when they tie it to it. You just... There's always this giddiness when you're around certain people. And I'm always like that. I don't care who I'm around. If I admire them, I veer them. You know? I have a very big issue with being around, especially singers. And hip-hop artists. Being around them. And not humming their songs while I'm around them. I do it all the time. I just sit there. But I'm like, hmm, hmm, hmm. And I look crazy. But I always do. I just be like, oh, stop. I'm just sitting in the middle of the night. I'm like, hmm, hmm. I'm like, hmm, hmm. I'm like, hmm, hmm. That's the best thing about it. And I love them. So, must be... And we never knew... Was it until the pandemic? Did you wear a musician like that? Oh, yeah, yeah, pandemic. That's when you were to start showing up, people. Yeah, yeah, well, I didn't... So, I didn't know really what I was doing like that. I had equipment, DJ equipment at my house. If I had a party, I would ask one of my DJ friends to come over... And play for everybody that I was there. So, I had equipment sitting there. When the pandemic hit, I just kept looking at it. And just like, just staring at it like, man. I'm just gonna let this sit here or what I'm gonna do. But then, D. Nice went live. And he blew up so big that I began doing parodies of him. Like, just playing around and acting like I was him. And then, one day, I just stopped playing music that I had. And I was like trying to DJ. And everybody was like, you horrible... Don't quit your day job, boy. Stay doing jokes. And the way I was blending like this. This how I'm on my blend side of it. They were flaring at me. It was just everything. Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, blending at all. But one thing people kept saying was, I used to tear up. But what was that song you just played? Mm-hmm. I kept hearing that. It's called Taste. I just kept hearing, boy, don't you DJ, you are the worst. But who made that song? And I was like, oh, you know, oh, that was a brunt of Russell. And that was a third album. And then I was like, huh. Then I come here again. 1986. You know, in Chicago, you made that. Yes, got French kids. And I was like this. I've been like, but anyway. And I played another song. And then I was like, who was that? Oh, first choice. You never heard first choice? No. I was like, I guess it's first choice. Anyway, so, uh, and it just became this thing. Let's see, I've got kept going. Oh, this dude knows some music. Yeah, I know how to play it. Because some people don't know how to play it. Don't know it. Yeah, oh, really. And that's facts. And so I just kept playing this music that I've always had a collection of music. My whole life. And I always, in Chicago, going up with house and disco and all of that. Like it was the more music you knew. And it was like neatens and things that you had connections with people on music. You know, in Chicago. So you just had collections of music. Everybody basically did back then. And so I just had collections of music that I always still to this day. I collect music. You know, I have a other little thing that I do. Anytime somebody drop an album, okay, who it is. I'll listen to it. And I'll choose the single before they drop it. And I'll just listen to the whole album. And I'll be like, number four should be the singer they drop. And number seven should be the next singer they drop. That's great. And then I'll drop the song. And you will. Yeah, I remember with Gunnar Gunnar's last album. I was like, that song, who getting up. Who getting fucked tonight? Come on. Yeah, yeah. I remember hearing that. And I was like, that's the first single. And then I was like, the second single should be, uh, it was this other song you had right out there. Who getting fucked tonight. This other single. And I was like, that should be a second single. And blow him up. They was doing. Who's getting fucked tonight. Thing. It's a thing. And I just, and I, and it's just a personal thing that I do. I don't talk about it. I don't tell people. I just just what I've been doing since I was a kid. You fucked up now. Yeah. Now you go. Now you go. Now you go. Now you go. You get your name. God damn sure. And then you're in my album. What you think? Man, to dig. I do, man. I just listen to music. And I listen to it. And I just say, oh, I don't know. And I'll be out. Number number seven. That's it. And 70% of the time. That's the one. Yeah. And I just, that confirms what I'm saying though. You are a musician. Yeah. Like, you, uh, as they say on, uh, white man can't jump. You can hear Johnny. That was what the neighbor was at. Yeah. Jimmy. Yeah, you can hear Jimmy. You can hear Jimmy. I just never, I never tried to claim that I was a DJ because I didn't want to take that. Well, that's a different skill. Yeah, I don't never want to take away from the DJs. But knowing the music, knowing the music. Just a gift. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went on a name that tune on Fox and I went against, uh, what's her name? Cat, a cat Graham. Uh, yeah. Who has albums there? Yeah, for sure. I beat her. I beat her. I feel like I took pride in the rest. But look, I'm here. But I was, but again, I was undressed and made it. She was a scientist. Yeah. Anyway, so she did a thing and, uh, and rehearsal and I was just sitting there and, and rehearsal. I was trying to learn the game. So I really wasn't trying to be precise about the music. And she just kept calling out songs and stuff. And I just sit there like, and I was learning the game and then we got in the game. Just like kicking her ass. Yeah. I knew all these songs, man. And it was just, and she's in for it. Oh, my hands were 400. It's crazy. I'm on a roll. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. 477. on me playing and really listening from all over the world. You really don't think about that when you're in your living room. Right. We've never had you. And today starts here. Hi from Belgium. Yeah. Yeah. Belgium, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think it's make waffles out there. Right, right, right. People was just tuning in and I learned enough to blend records. Good enough where you know it stayed on beat or whatever. But then I remember one day this one I knew something was tripping something was happening. I was online one day and Jimmy Jam was like, hey, I got the song. Can you play it for me? And I was like an exclusive. Yeah, I was like play play like just like listen to it. And I was like, no, like when you play when you DJ next play it. And I was like, oh, okay. And I played it. And then after that, other DJs started sending me music. I said, I break things so much of playing. And I was like, okay, something's happening. Yeah. And I just started playing them during the pandemic. And it got to the point where I wasn't even playing what I wanted to play. I was like, so many people that shows right there that you're not really a DJ. Because a DJ, but like, yeah, I was trying to make a job. Deon, I quote, don't take requests. I'm working the book. I was doing late night. It was the valentine don't take requests. Because that's what a DJ had told me. My nigga from the cream. And that told me that's in shape. DJs don't take requests. And that's how you know you real. I said, you didn't. I was trying to make everybody happy. And I didn't know what I was doing. That's a $200. Yeah. The handshake. A couple of bills. A couple of bills. A couple of plays. I think it's better to record some strip clothes. I thought I'm from a few of my other bands strip. I didn't think it was gonna be fun. Do some stuff. Do some booby. All of a sudden, maybe I deserve a promoted strip club. Maybe I deserve a mullet one. It did. I could surprise you. How you feel. You playing it again. Wow. Wow. Wow. This episode is brought to you by. So in Chicago, I'm growing up. Cause first, are all your funny, bro? What everybody from Chicago funny? Yes. Yeah, man, it's crazy. Niggas waiting to come. Idiot. No, Niggas G. Herbo is hilarious. Fucking funny, Niggas. He's one of the funniest Niggas. I know. Niggas Sterling. Niggas brother. Niggas. Idiot. Cosine. Close. You Niggas. Oh, bro. Chicago. I don't know if that was a thing. It was on a thing where you had to be that man. You just man. It was a, some people was a survival tactic. And then other people was just, you know, they wanted to get with the ladies or that's how they expressed themselves. But yeah, it was, it was no different than somebody going to shoot hoops, you know, practice other than y'all do. Yeah, yeah. I was playing ball like it was this same reps, same reps you have singing, playing piano, which owns in people. When did you start in the space of like, okay, I know funny on the block. I know I got niggas laughing. I know. And when did you be like, nah, I think I can make some money doing this shit. Never. Never. Nah, I never was funny. Nah, I never was funny. I can't believe that. Nah, anybody that knows me, they know I was dead ass about everything. I wouldn't know like funny dude, like funny, like nah, everybody know me. They never know. To this day, I let down a lot of people because the real me kick in and they come around and I ain't hit myself in the face with pies or nothing and they're going, but he looks so mean. I just be like, oh, nah, I'm just chilling. I'm over. I like to listen to people. When I'm too busy talking, then I feel like I'm performing. And I can't learn when I'm talking. Especially, you know, I like to learn people's worlds and what they think about in order for me to go have something to talk about. But if I keep constantly talking, then we're going to keep hearing the same things over and over again. But if I shut up and I listen to people, then I'm going to learn something new. I'm going to be like, oh, I didn't know that. And then I can go talk about it. No, I never was no joke and do like that. It was just my outlook on things. Like I would look at things and people would be like, wouldn't it get you crazy? That's all there used to be. Like, boy, you silly as hell. That's perspective. Yeah, that'd be like, boy, you're ass. But it wasn't, it wasn't no. Yeah. Pied in the face, slip on banana, you know what, none of that. It was just like a perspective and people would be like, I ain't never think I was like that. You crazy shit. So what did you think you were going to be growing up? I thought I was going to be working for the city, a Chicago driving buses or a CTA because I was the job I was going out for. I was going out to be like a conductor for the train system or like on buses for Chicago transit authority. That's right. It wouldn't be the funniest niggas though. If you ever have a conversation with the man, because it's a niggas, they see so much shit. They say so much. Yeah. Funny to them all, fuck it, dog. Yeah. That's how I was going out for it. That was, that was, I was working at this shop called the leather makers and I was trying to get this job to work for the city. And that was, that was my, that was my focus. I wasn't even thinking about comedy like that. So what was the share of them? My God. This guy named Guilame. God, I grew up with. We were sitting up one day. This Guilame. This is real. This is real. This is real. This is real. This is real. We call them GUILL. But this is real. GUILLame. Don't figure something out. They don't figure something out. You know, everything but everything but a girl all day everything but a girl Me and girl man, he decided one day just out of the clear blue. He was just like you should do comedy And I was like With dude what with it? He was like, no, I should try it out I was like, no, I'm good I mean, I know you should do it like for real. It's like we should go to club. I bet you $50 you don't do it I was like 50 is that yeah, I was like, all right. Let's go down We went down there and it's like no, you can't go on Now I'm like, oh, I can't go on So the next week I got it like no, I'm like really I was like, all right next week Dale Gibbons George Wilborn. They was hosting his comedy club all jokes aside and it was like All right, you there's like you been that hit three weeks. We'll let you go on and I went on and I was it. I was like, uh, you just told stories or did you tell Joe? Yeah, no, I wrote down stories Or things that I thought about and I just wrote it down on paper and only did five minutes and I wrote it down I did it and after that I was like You know, sir. This is what I'm here to do. There was just a click How are you at this point? I'm at man. I was like 22 Think I was 22 22 and just jumped on the stage 22 dog to shit myself 22 I've never been on no stage period. No, never not even thought about it So you know the talent show guy This wasn't first in comedy. I didn't study none of that. It was just all just my perspective on things and how I thought about it Then that was just it like pure point blank It was just how I thought of it. That is and that's what makes great comics. It's like there's some comedians man They'd be rocking shows Tell all kind of jokes But then after the show is over where you can't quote one joke Because because you didn't you didn't know who was telling it Mm-hmm. They never told you who they were they were stuck They nothing stuck that you didn't you great comedy special in something But you know the like when you see like Bernie and She pal and cat Mike and you see these people You you you see these people. Yeah, telling these stories The joke is them Like snoop snoop is hilarious Just It's just a man like you silly as fuck dog like I called you to like a couple months ago Did you You tried And your deem I was oh shit I got a call deon him is me like a like a like a week or so No, you silly you to the both yeah, that's why I did show it so amazing Yeah, y'all y'all timings impeccable Y'all have stuff to talk about you're very engaging and man I Any comment can look at either one of y'all and go they can do comment if they want yeah easily Y'all can lay out y'all just got it. I don't know if I'm ever doing that. I bet you I bet you do it I love it. I love it. Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go back. I've been on up. I've done you been on Yeah, that's right. I'm glad I went on stage when I did every member After watching after watching y'all I came on Wasn't this fucking You know studying Jamie and like Doing this yeah, it's all that's how he's doing it Jamie's different. He different I'm even I Mean can he put him in a category? Like I tell people all the time I was like listen Jamie's gonna do a special and he'll do a movie and all of those things all those things will be funny and they'll be fun and they'll be epic I said but sitting next to Jamie Foxx in a living room. Oh, yeah, there's nobody better. Nobody better God he is so funny So you go you go through this cavity shell and you get hooked mm-hmm Now Is it time to do homework and Really figure out Figure out what your style is gonna be what your perspective is gonna be Your your cadence your delivery like your your presence on select all of these things are you now diving into that part of First of all I was Dillon with how quick this was taken off You know what I mean because I kept doing the same five minutes and there was just like killing everybody so I just was like And there's no camera phones back to no camera phones right now. I was killing it off And so I will keep constantly doing the same five minutes just everywhere I go was just killing with it now Yeah, so now I'm going oh this is great But the lessons become from the act of The more you do it the more you learn what you shouldn't be doing. You know that I mean that go anything You you can't really be taught you just have to go through it and then you know what to do because I quickly Found out I can't do the same five minutes forever How long are you performing that five minutes? How long like I was doing that five minutes for like probably like six months Wow, seven became your hit record Yeah, I could have I could have wrote each joke title on the flyer like come here Come here to sunny delight you know like all different like bullet points That I could I could have put on that, but yeah, I was doing that and then it got to the point where it's like I Like one time I did the show and it's dude. It's like all right. What else you got? Because he had heard it. Yeah in the middle of the show. Yeah, and I was like Anyway, not kept going. He was like know that one too Then I was like And so the last joke I was doing he started doing it He's And I was just sitting there looking at him. He stood up. He did the whole joke and he was like this. There's a I Yeah, you know, we I told him I told him I read you can go out of thought that I Just I just want good night everybody That feeling I would have done one is there's a burning Like my organs were melting together because I'm getting second-hand It's gonna be bad. That's been a look at your in your pocket They was just melting together And I just was like oh wow and I just Man, I was like, okay, all right. I got to write some stuff. Yeah, and then I was like, you know what forget him Nothing Forget that so then I ended up going on tour with deaf jam and it was like Yeah, we need you to do 20 minutes and I'm like And I had did seven minutes on deaf jam and I only had to five So that's 13 minutes that left me with like seven more minutes that I had to do I did three cities and they sent me home I was sitting in the airport with my deaf jam jacket on my hat and all my deaf jam stuff and my My deaf jam phone number one hand and I was just sitting in the airport like this And I just was like okay And I already told everybody I threw a party and told them I was on tour you gotta do that So I couldn't go outside for like I could do no shows that I'm not crazy because I threw a party and told them I was on tour So I stayed in the house for like two and a half weeks because that's how long I've spoken in gone Okay, I used to smoke cigarettes I used to send people to go give me cigarettes I'm on the run she yeah The two weeks man, I think two weeks is over I came out like yeah, everybody like yeah you back But at that moment I was like I got it right. Oh my god. I got it right Charlie I got it right and then I just unconsciously start writing and they're writing and writing and writing it right and to the point where People started comedians not not really people. I wasn't sitting asses and seats but comedians was like man Dude getting funny Then one day Ricky smiley called me as I want you to come down Alabama write these crank off CDs for me Hmm, I said, oh, okay, yeah sure He still make money We went down there wrote that so you ain't getting a publisher? No nothing. No Then he ended up hosting comic view he's like you should come right comic view I said, oh, okay, I went wrote it came back Then years later next year, you know I was writing for Conan So did you get some residuals for comic you? No, cuz I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep following your trail. No, no, no, no, take your No, I'm following the money man I'm trying to find the money man Which was like following the money you like work for higher Yeah, like see back then back in me a lot a lot of comics was was protesting comic view because they wasn't getting no money But there was a handful of comics styles like like me. We was like shit. We gonna keep going doing comic View until we get a TV show Right to look at the pro-tests, you know, I mean and we ended up becoming household names Because because everybody else protested and so we would constantly do the show and they would constantly air us But it's so but there was no money though, right? On what you're protesting. Yeah, right cuz where else are you going to be seen or national tell nowhere? No, and so we was like forget that so we kept doing it and then Ricky came and we wrote for him and then after that I wrote for a lot of the different like comedians Some comedians that I was there to write for they didn't use none of my stuff But I was there to write for them then other comics did or you know stuff like that And next thing I know I was right for Conan and oh That hit let me ask you a question though about that though So as a writer when you when you Write in jokes for For other comics because I know there's a thing, you know It was always a thing going around about people stealing jokes and that kind of thing Yeah, yeah, but since you are in essence an author of some of those jokes Do you get to take some of those jokes with you? No Of course once you give them a joke then it's day job and the way that I write all right different like I have to Be around you in order to To See what kind of person you are and a lot of times people are funny. They just don't know they funny You know you got it you got to tell them what they said And you have to tell them how funny they are you know I wrote for diddy and that was the whole thing I kind of really I kind of really like First of all, I should pale Yeah, she pale was like this Hey, uh, diddy looking for you and I was like for what he was like he want you to write want you write some stuff for And I was like this. Oh, okay. He was like yeah, I said you writing. He was like no That's it wow, why you say it like that? He was like mm-hmm. He want you I said are you gonna try these like nope he want you Diddy hit me up? No, I'm hosting the billboard awards you remember the billboard But he's on that the love album. Yeah, he's like yeah, I'm hosting the billboard was and Yo, I remember you wrote some stuff for these rock commercials stuff come on come on. Uh Man, you want can you write this and I was like this. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, let's go. Let's do it Ah man It was crazy like writing He's so demanding and so inspiring you know diddy right he's so crazy But he's so inspiring all the same time all at the same time dog like I think I quit like twice and I think they let me go once It was crazy He gonna take you on a roller coaster. Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna take you but the thing was I remember the first meeting we had was at his house and it was like some other writers I was there whatever and they were just talking going through what they was going to do What they was going to write and the direction and all that that then when they got to me I was like, I don't know direction I don't have none of that. I said this is what I'm gonna do You're a character within yourself So I just need to be around you listening to you and the way that you talk I'm just gonna apply that to the monologue and I'm just gonna apply different words that you say and everything I said I think you said something earlier. Will you say something about man? I just want energy around I was like I'm gonna use that word in the monologue. I ain't never heard nobody say winter G So I'm gonna use that and some other things that you've been saying but I just need to listen to you and That's uh, that's my formula And he was like Me every day I was like okay And like almost every other day I was like around him just Listening to him talk. Yeah, all of the stuff. I'm not gonna write stuff. I said it to him here be like Oh, yeah, that's cool. Didn't have to be like nah, that's horrible Then I'm like okay one time I sent them some stuff He was like this is the best shit ever Then the next day he was like nah, this shit's terrible. And I was like And I just took it and I was like I got a show. I need to prepare for I ain't worried about this shit And I just didn't write nothing else and then the next day after that He's like all right, what's all got and I just I ain't having nothing new so I just gave him what I have from the other day He was like this is amazing The same shit And I was like Like I was like all right, but yo, it was just me listening to him. Mm-hmm applying himself to the monologue And yeah, that's what I do like if I was around job and there was something like if y'all had something to do I would just listen to y'all just right constantly talk or whatever and then to miss that out I record And then next thing you know, I write this whole monologue. That's how I'm just like you Yeah, you know what I mean and everything that you say and do and just your cadence Taylor Yeah, Taylor. Yeah, Taylor because the more it's you the less rehearses. So we gonna have right and the more comfortable I want you to go up there and just seamlessly say that to say whatever it is as a writer music Television comedy anything like If you're doing it for someone You have to study them. Yeah, you have to stop if you if you really want to be a great writer Right like you could just I tell people all the time. I'm like they'll send certain songs especially you know They'll send me songs for tank. I'm like You just sent me a song that sounds just like Another song you had yeah, I said you gotta you gotta get into the mind of him. Yeah, even without meeting him. Yeah You gotta be like okay. I got a research. Yeah, where he's at in his life or she's at in her life And I gotta figure out What's needed in that space now? There it is and I don't I don't think a lot of the writers Do that anymore. Yeah, not as much to me. I don't think so so to hear you explaining your process I'm like no Yeah, I mean the the growth is in the music you know, and I mean I would think that If I had to write a song for somebody because I've written I actually written a couple songs and And then to miss that what I did was I just looked at the growth of the music and her where we where we're where it started To where it is now and then listen to that and then think about where that person could be Yes, you know, and I mean from that point from the last album What could where this person can be at where where do I see this person being at do I see them being divorced? Do I see them cheating? Do I see them even being more in love? Do I what do I see this person being you know, I'm gonna write something where All of these things kind of apply we could just Enter change the ending of this and make it where It's uh it'll it'll fit them and where they are do that makes sense because it because yeah it again It leads it lends to their Comfortability Yeah, or the more it is them the more they are able to be on stage and be honest. Yeah Like that's better like I did it. I did it song with what came in shell one time. Mm-hmm And we're sitting there and we just talking I'm no came to show forever And I'm like and I'm like and I'm fucking where I'm like this I'm like you love to get on that line though you love You love to be in them comments though. No, no, no, no Because that motherfucker tried to try to go online and say some shit about me like I ain't gonna say some shit back I'm gonna bust back nigga. You understand? I'm saying you got to write one of this stuff right there Turn them back on please You got the right one Wow Was this like so this is Christian Michelle's talking like no no, this is this is K Michelle. Oh Yeah, I know you talking about yeah, yeah And somebody and we did this song and I'm literally just framing that's crazy Experience all of her words right and just just putting them into just a decent little format so she can And she might have sang that song in all the seven minutes Dan and and it wasn't a single But when she sings that song live right it is a movie really that's crazy because it's her Yeah, it ain't nobody trying to write a song for her. It's somebody writing her song Right is it easier to write a song? With the person around or without a person around depends on how difficult they are To me that would be my answer to you. It just depends on how difficult they are Because when you have people that are are willing to take direction Mm-hmm are willing to open up to you really open up to you It's like okay, this can be easy. Yeah, but then you got some artists that are just you know either stuck in their ways Are they just they know who you thought they were? Mm-hmm about that you know the main see like What do I write for this motherfucker? So to me, you know, it just depends on the person in my opinion. Yeah, I mean that's that's that's tricked out you said that because I have met people That I perceived to be a certain way. Yes, we are and then when I get ready to write for them I go oh you're not as confident as Hmm portray yourself to that. Yeah, you there's always that. Oh, oh you oh you Oh, so you're insecure I was I don't know if I can write this because I was this is I mean you play secure well, so maybe I can't write this But I don't know I'm sure I can I can give it to you, but Still it's not who I thought was gonna be singing a sandwich joke or you know, that's how that's how it is like Even write material. It's like are you can't say this so tell me something your Def Jam comic view um When you get to Conan are these now two different types of comedy comedies that you are having to write and dive into in terms of when you think of audience. Yeah, because Me writing for Conan taught me television Hmm taught me where the money is and and if you don't mind what is a difference when you say writing for television like writing for Conan in that space Anything you do on TV that's successful has to have a certain amount of corny Hmm in it. Okay, you gotta have it and everything you do if you want money. Hmm Bruno Mars is fantastic But he has the right amount of corny and he keeps him number one. Yeah, yeah, right? These cool motherfuckers that write all these cool songs and shit all these great metaphors and Hmm, they're not really Small venues small small venues small venues Yeah, you gotta be willing to dress up. Yeah, you gotta be willing to act it out. Yeah, all these other things that people consider to be corny I get what you're saying cool people the cool people consider to but they're a way less cool people in a world talk about and cool people don't have as much money No, it's cool. You don't want to spend it either and don't want to spend it when cool people critique me I'll just be like okay, that's cool a Real-neighborate me a check yeah Rice I Was gonna find where the money was away It ain't what As a real nigga wrote you a rice has a real nigga wrote you a check it. Let me tell you something Let me tell you something I'm just saying Bar Wow, yeah, like not yet But it just it but it what it also does is it makes you redefine the word real It does and I don't pay no attention to that fucking word And anybody who's who's spueling it fuck them Mm-hmm Steve Harvey Is making a gazillion dollars Zillion being corny as far it's light for him and it's beautiful to see it's like he is on family Few where he has to reach all of America and they love him and he's doing it gracefully He's not going to get his integrity. No, he's doing none of that He's doing what the fuck he's supposed to do being on family feud Every day and everybody's home for all this amount of time with the other he has to write the amount of corny I know it for him to make it and you got to have that with everything you do You know, you got to like my show, but you're gonna respect it And other people gonna respect it and then other people that come they're gonna see What I'm doing or what I'm trying to do. I'm not trying to do a special for Everybody that if you love me already. I appreciate you and I thank you so much But I want to reach everybody. I want to reach everybody man. I'm not here just a constantly Do the same material for those that like it. It's like I'm I'm trying to elevate and I'm trying to get more more people to To to to check this out and check out this journey that I'm going on you know what I mean, but if you constantly Performing and writing for those that love you. That's what you're gonna be at, you know, right But if you ask some corny to it. I bet you go to another level. I want to rebuttal you Okay, I want to I want to fight you on this one. Okay, as it pertains to you personally I don't think I Don't think everybody can make cool digestible for everybody facts And you've done an amazing job Making cool For everybody I thank you, but it takes many Many oh, except that many nights of bombing I'll look hmm I've bombed if you look at my specials that I dropped every special that I drop it takes me two years To put that out. It's a lot of cast they put out special every year and it looked like it It looks like it I take my time with this man and I and either you like it or you don't but It's it doesn't wave of the process that I do anomaly and there's a lot of phenomenal comics out here that drop specials year at the year and they are great And they don't but there are some specials that aren't special All right, they are special. I'm not saying everybody. I'm just saying there are some specials that are not special And I think specials are special. They should be special. Let me put two years put it in because I still got a tour with it too You gotta have two a time. You gotta write time. You gotta have all that and then you go out there And then once you read it and then you ready and then you go put that thing on TV man you put it out. Okay You Give me a brush. It's you you're writing Mm-hmm and then from the right you planned the tour or are you writing and you're auditing it in small clubs here and there I'm gonna take you from Me shooting whatever last special. Okay. I'm gonna take you from there You got this special right hot fire airtight Funny from beginning to end 60 minutes, right? You go shoot it 3000 cedar Theater 5000 cedar theater you shoot it put it out. I mean you you put it out. I mean you you you finish it At that moment you fending when you go good night You are back at ground zero Hmm, you have not one joke you're done Now you have nothing You know you if somebody called you right after that show it last two years all your good stuff goes into that special So now when you're done shooting that special you gotta go back to ground zero You have nothing to talk about you have no concepts you have no jokes you have nothing because you can't perform that song again You can't perform that song again. That's good difference in our shit Definitely So therefore now I'm sitting up after I'm done shooting that thing that net that next hour after I'm not shooting. I'm sitting that going Okay What am I what if somebody called me right now and be like I need you to do a show for Quarter million right now. I need you to do a show for a quarter million. I need you to do an hour. I'm gonna have to go I Can refer you to somebody Yeah, cuz you ain't gonna try to make no shit out today. I don't I don't have nothing to talk about I don't need about five minutes. I can go on and go where where my capricorn's at Where I'm gonna be like If you got this I'm seeing I'm seeing these niggas though you see me that you do Boy I've seen it already Dea told me you had the left oh you on the zone that's shit. I think Yeah Yeah You out man I can ask who birthday it is and all that you know and man You know I'll be able to sing when we again. No, I'm hearing Imagine you're seeing in that song you sung it already all around the country You toured with it you sung it and then you can't sing it no more And if you do sing it again Those that came out to see you hear you sing they not coming back again because you sung it again Oh, it's so different I never looked at it thought about it. Yeah, you you you you you sing it and if you sing it again They're gonna be like oh, I pay my money. We already heard this song actually. I got this song. I got this in my car I don't need to come here to hear you sing When we again No, I heard it already and so therefore You can't do that So you got come up with a new hour every year to tour with every two two years or ever Brand new material so in making in making your last special Because you just said yeah, it takes a lot of bombing. Mm-hmm. Yeah, did you buy have you have you bombed in Cuz I can't I can't go I do I do a residency at the At the improv From the 40 people to lab in the lab. I'm in the lab all the time. It's like 40 people last week I wanted to run up out that motherfucker Last week Just last week because I wrote all this new stuff and The ill shit is I believe then there's so much. I did it the following. I did it three days later in the kill The same shit that I did in that room and nobody laughed. I mean nobody laughed. I told them I said don't y'all motherfuckers go nowhere together ever again Y'all get each other phone numbers Don't you ever show up nowhere to collectively ever again to nothing so pretty much you tell them Is you not me? It's you motherfuckers. Don't you don't y'all go nowhere to go simply I know y'all I know each other Find find out where y'all if she gonna be there you don't go He gonna be there you don't go like don't y'all ever and we bombed so bad It was so bad it was so bad not at that moment. I was like wow But you believe though, but you still believe you like it's your friend yeah, and then the next couple days I did the same material and It killed now. I'm gonna tell you I did recently. I was in Chicago. I saw I made a couple with like a House songs right yeah, yeah, thank you. I made some house songs and so one of the songs kind of like kind of really blue And so I want to go sing it not sing it, but if they need no singing it's just me talking over a track, right? And I went to go do it for the very first time In Chicago with my man Terry hunter and I went on stage dark and I bombed so bad on the song dog. I was like this Chicago makes them know it was in my hometown to Chicago makes them know it Yo yo, what a freak said that's naming my son my son I know we got some freaks in here What's y'all saying Ain't no freaks in here where they at They just what haha y'all Chicago makes them know it's y'all Come on, y'all man I didn't at the end of the song. I was just like like uh, where the freaks at uh, uh, and then I had to tell someone called post that shit Post that shit then it's like bomb at the end. I was supposed to just like pause the shit and I stand there like And I'm just waiting on it Oh, wait no, never give me the cue. It would just leave Just leave And I was like I don't know how singers And MCs do this shit, but that's what I was gonna ask you Because me and him always talk about this pretending to him doing comedy So for you that did it ever clicking your mind. Oh, I just need to tell him some jokes real quick to get out of this No, the music was put the music don't stop they kept going now I got to say the words to the song because that is always I couldn't stop that's always our joke amongst each other I'm like jeep if you go bad I'm saying it's you on these cities nigger I'm at the Savoy and I'm like I'm dedicated to these jokes Christmas to bring me up and the Savoy is a venue that I've you know done a thousand people with a singer Yeah, and I'm trying to get my jokes off and it's like a birthday party to going on You know that that area down there. It's just a difficult area. It's called Hollywood This angle would niggas are they fully celebrate nothing is an older woman's birthday too. She she might be 56 She got on the glitter cat suit nigger angel. Yeah, she don't have She didn't hurt my music before I'm trying to get through my just sing a song bitch So again like when you married it's like nigga fuck that thing is all It's the worst part is baby faces bear I'm like alright, well, thank y'all so much. That's my time Yeah, like oh, sit down Baby face looks like this. That was brave Thought what you know for something dog is hard for people to like switch that shit like Like people was tripping over like shot out to my man T.I. man They was tripping over T.I. They was just like he had to fight for it. No, he's yeah And he and people was like I guess they got this old ass fucking Clip going around of him not having a good show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they act like that just happened Didn't just happen that's some fairly shit on but Hopefully he understands that they expecting one thing out of him right And he really has to separate that and once again, this is why Jamie Foxx is so grace is why Jamie Foxx is so Fucking amazing. He knows how to separate those things or And for them all to go. Yeah I went to a room where people didn't know Yeah, I was doing a comedy which is what helped me yeah So sisco Durand is a guy who helped me a lot And he was on the road. He was doing a lot of shows with Carlos Mincea Mm-hmm at the time So he was like man if you want to get some work in just just just open and work on your shit He's like we got you. Yeah, you got to get there. I was like I'll get there. It's not a problem And so I started realizing very soon that these real comedy rooms They don't know me. Yeah, and so where I thought I might have had an advantage as tank I did not Yeah, and I had to be fucking funny But look they were gonna be quiet But look let me tell you something and this goes for everybody out there I've said this before but You get a five-minute grace period. I don't care. I don't care if you old bomber When it come to comedy you got a five-minute grace period up top after those five minutes If you're not funny you are going to fill it. I don't care how many awards you got How many Oscars Emmys How many movies If you're not funny at the five minutes. I don't care. You are an omada Tank anybody you are going to fill it It's that's just what comedy is comedy is a brutal. I felt the mother fucking thing I felt the day You're anything anything that you thought about yourself is out the window and it's only about laughter at that moment I just need one You Yo, but it's so it's so crazy though how much you You rely on that laughter, you know and it's crazy And I don't know if you all do this like you know stage or whatever, but I rely on that laughter so much so that I could have and I've done it before I've been in 5,000 Cedar rain this or theaters whatever right The whole room could be cracking up And I would notice one person sitting in front of her like this I hate that and I will focus all my energy On that one person I would need me the whole room. I wouldn't even care about them laughing It's I know how to get out of that I will focus on that one person Would be like why aren't you laughing yes The whole room is yes 9999 people laughing and one person is just like and I'm going What's wrong with you? You know and I focus on that shit when it's like you gotta you gotta That's how much I rely on that laughter. I mean I want everybody. Yeah I'm the same way. Yeah, I see a girl's in there. She's Ain't doing the right things. Yeah She gonna get some of my attention Absolutely, I'm singing the next verse to her Oh Bitch You go Give me something Yeah, because the flip side of that is when I'm singing that fort Valley Stain Homecoming I'm singing this terrible record two girl cue girls on the front row looking. I don't know this I It was just them too everybody's like oh school with them too. It's like this week So I get what you're saying I can spot the mother fuck it is not participate and I need their help That's the challenge. Yeah, it's crazy. I want everybody. Yeah, you want everybody and and it's Like you you it's like you rely on that. It's like it's it's I don't know what it is man I got to get over that though. I got to like lead that one person along and enjoy Everybody you start talking shit to them and fucking with them are you just no, I just constantly look out My whole show is now set on you know where that yeah, how do I make this person lie right? No, I think that's the other part of our comedy that's so different from recording artists too is that you guys just you You're not relying on That once again the hit record you know, I rely you can't rely on you know, no mean like yeah You know what may have worked in another city that they haven't seen it But it's like you said you can't be a repeater all the time with that type of thing especially once you you get to the level of special Yeah, so It makes it where comedians can't be lazy. I see so many lazy artists. Yeah, y'all know the song. Yeah, not a tough comedian No, you can't just moving. No, you can't be lazy. We got to do all our hits until we film it And then it's done. That's how it is She got a whole time going on your hits and then when you film that then you don't but everybody process is different You know and I've been learning that too like I mean my shameless plug But like even on my show of Funny knowing you have been learning that from a lot of comedians. Mm-hmm. Like their process of how they yeah put out and how they deal with audiences and How it affects them and a lot of comics man ain't gonna lie to you doing doing this the series I do on YouTube is A lot of these comics are they are damaged all of all of us a lot of my damage Oh, man, that's doing army money podcast the artist so that like to to be a creative is damaging Is damaging and it's put out for the world and it's and it's damaging to mording yourself. Yeah, the people around you You know to make because you wish so hyper-focused On this on this gift that we've been giving yeah, whatever space it is that It's it's a lot it's a lot of um collateral damage. Yeah, I even feel like that with myself sometimes and I never really thought of it like that But then I was like yeah, I guess I guess I do have like Damage is well, you know that just built up inside like I guess all comics do whatever. I think that's why a lot of Great communions can become great dramatic actors too because of all the pain that they Keep inside or whatever they know how to like channel channel that you know and everybody pain is different and they have to like Still make people laugh. I remember I did a show in Miami and I had this comic that was opening up for me at the time And I remember we finished the show and I was like man. Let's go eat. It was it was a gay comic, right? And we were sitting down eating just think we're gonna talk about the show and you just start crying Just crying. I was like And he was just like he was like man. I'm just tired. Man. I'm just tired. I like what's wrong. He was like Man, I'm just I'm tired to be a lonely man And I was like well just find somebody is I just kept finding people like that man, you know I like straight man and you know, it's not like straight man that that won't me because they straight So what do I do if it's a bunch of straight men that Just not gay and they don't make gay people and that's all I like so I can't find nobody And I just was like right Wow But that was a struggle for him. He was crushed inside because of that And I just was like think about what he said. Yeah, I thought about it. It was about it I don't know if he thought about it, but there was no answer From from the way that he put it, but it had me thinking like I don't have no He only he's gay like what and he only is attracted to straight man That ain't no work. It ain't gonna work And that's just what he accidentally picks or is there a nuance about straight men that is attractive to him He said that he had a straight man before no, he didn't a straight man No, he's like then it's not a straight man. I'm kidding. Listen, no, but that's what I said I was about to say no, I told him I said I said he said I had a straight man before because I was going How do you know you like straight man? He was like I had one before and I was like Well, if you had him before then he's no longer straight and he was like no, he just tried it and I said he's straight And I just didn't want to argue. I was just like okay, whatever and I was like all right, but That's a struggle that I'd never thought about that's the point that I make The struggle that these people have that people have They're struggles. You can't even fight them sometime. Well, you're going. Oh, wow. That is something that you really really dealing with Yeah, keeping you You know funny You know because because of laughing to keep him crying laughing to keep him crying exactly But yeah, that that that that trip me out and they had me learning that being sympathetic to a lot of people and not just being judgmental and looking at them like This is where you supposed to be or you should be this way or that way or whatever like You can't tell people how they should be anybody paying the taxes you paying and don't nobody look like you don't nobody My talk like you think like you so how how are you supposed to get these people advice on how they need to be or whatever When you're not even in a Wheelhouse to even give them information like that right when he told me that I kind of just clocked out like man I was like I was just like man you'll figure it out and that was just it you know what I mean I know that's the same but I think he might be You know I wasn't So all spice What a segue You know You You know anybody They're sitting in here eating with That straight like that straight like that Not you but just if you know you know somebody like you Baby Baby Making Because she I like. Fuck yeah. Oh, fuck. Okay, so what's first, is it, is it the TV role or a special? What was first for you? What was first for you? Yeah, a TV role. Was it blackish first for you or was it was a special first for you? Special. The special was first for you. I had a special. Okay, which one was first? I had a special call, co-bladis seminars on comedy centrum. That was my very first hour special. And then I was like before Netflix. Like, and then when Netflix hit, No, what did it do for you though? Oh. It had people going, he's a, still wasn't like, seeping crazy asses and seats. It had people going, oh, this just, this is kind of clever. It put me on people's radar. Yeah. But it was like, oh, this just kind of, this just kind of kind of, kind of clever. And it was like that. And it just was, that was it. You know, I still was still at the burn still at this point. At this point, what are you, what are you making a show right now? No, no, no. Oh, then, was I making, then I was probably getting about, maybe about 1500, 1500 to show. And that's good money in comedy. Yeah, I mean, yeah, man, yeah. Because I was just making like 1000 a show. I was making like 1000 doing my special came out on time like 15,500. Because the way comedy is, you see me love pop up. Because comedy is also based around like you said, asses and seats. Right? Ain't that how y'all shit ya? Yeah. Equated to, you know, and then, and then if you can, you know, if you have enough success, then you can still do those same rooms or maybe you want to do bigger rooms, but then you can go to a premium ticket price. That's another way that that money starts to go up. Yeah, and it was like, and then you start looking at the shows, like you'll do a comedy club. And I went from, this is when you, you know, you can kind of lift your money up. I went to comedy club and I used to do like five shows, right? To a sell out. And that was like Saturday, the Saturday show. Yeah. And the Friday late show and the early Saturday show. They don't even know who's there, you know, they just out on the Saturday. Like, you know, let me just go see some comedy or whatever. So that's why those would kind of sell out. And then, you know, at the wild, three of sell out, then all five of sell out. Now you add in shows. Now you up to seven shows. Now you're doing nine shows. Shit. Now you're doing 11. 11 shows a week? Yeah. And now you're like, okay, she got a day on my go to theaters. You do a theater. And you can just do one shit all of you in one show. Yeah. But it's almost less money though. The theaters. It's less work, too though. You're not doing less work. It's less work. Oh shit. But you got everybody in one spot though. Right. You know what I mean? So instead of you doing a room of 300 people, 400 people. Now you're doing 3000. You're doing 3000, whatever. But the insurance. The insurance. The insurance on the place. Security. You know, like shows. Yeah. It's a whole thing that you don't have to worry about at comedy clubs. Right. You know what I mean? So the money that you would normally get in the comedy club would be less than in the theater. People see theater doesn't just think that. It's really for the villain. It's really for the villain. It's really for the look. Yeah. And the less work to do. To do less work. And for the look. Yeah. So what was this? What was the special or moment that said? That said, Dion Cole is the bad motherfucker here. When I did my second special. Cole Hartett, which is the first hour special I did on Netflix. I remember Chris Rock, text, welcome to the club. Shit. He texts that. And at that moment, I was like, welcome to the club. So welcome to the club. It was simple like that. He was outside. He was outside. He wasn't there. No. Yeah. When they saw that special, Chris Rock simply texts. Welcome to the club. Shit. He texts that. And at that moment, I was like, welcome to the club. He's like, welcome to the club, Dion. And I was like, wow. And after that. Just selling out just it is just instantly overnight dog. It was like all my shows just sold out. Sold out everywhere. Sold out everywhere. But I didn't have no jokes. Man. Start over. You're starting over. The work is special coming out. And then the book is coming. And then you gotta say no. Because they gotta say no. They gotta sell the tick. Well, yeah, I get it. But I mean, they gotta sell the tickets while you're hot. Right. That's what I'm trying to figure this out. They want to put the tickets up for sale. Yeah. They sat. Yeah. And maybe, you know, and maybe they, they, they, they space it out to where, okay, you won't start the touring like six months to get each time they really go, but they got to catch them ticker sales. Yeah. But see, but see with Netflix, this is another thing. And this is for any comic out there, a little tip bit for you. Whatever. When you drop these specials, what they do is they'll drop a special and then just tour. And not ain't how you do that shit. You have to wait until everybody see that special. Because if you go to early, everybody ain't sold. So now you leave a money on the table because you wanted to get out there all of a sudden and try to tour and everything. And you got away the least three to four months after that. And drop in order for people to see it now. From the time that you shoot that thing, you got about three months to edit it, right? And you got three months for once to come out. So you got to get six months to write something. Like some do shit. You know what I mean? So you're going to have something, but I doubt if you have an hour and six months, you probably have about a nice 20, 15 minutes that you have. And then you can, whose birthday is it? Another 15 minutes. And then after that, you have a twerk contest. And now you have the 45 minutes. And you have that, my brother. You know, I'm a shoe. You shoot it. You're left in the right. Stop bringing me off 15. Lazy gentleman tank. I took him out of the twerk. Who can dance? Who can dance? Who can dance? Who can dance? Who can dance? Who can dance? Who can dance? Who can dance? Who can dance? Oh, my God. I just thought I'd bring it out. Everybody. So now you're starting to get to some paper at that point. Yeah. And you haven't, this is my other question. Why early on, while you're waiting for that big break to happen, are you working again? Are you working a day job still? So when my, when that special drop, I was on blackish. Oh, you were on blackish. You were on blackish, right? I was on blackish. I was on blackish. So when did the Ferrari happen? The first one. When did the Ferrari. The Ferrari. I was like, I think the, I think that was right before the, say, no, I think that was like the first one, like right after that one. Because I pulled up with, what, what, what was it? It was, it was an Ontario. Yeah, I'm telling up to, I'm telling up to, I'm telling up to, I'm telling up to you. And I was like, I was like, who car is that? That's D. I can't. I'm just like, what do you get to? How about a back trash can? Yeah, but yeah, yeah, you're fucking right. You're the dumpster, nigga. What do you get one of those? How much money you got? What the fuck is going on? Yo, man, I'll tell you, man, a lot of, a lot of people will be playing comics though. Like they ain't got no bread, man. Like they, like they, like they, like they, like they, they, they, they be small. No, no, look, but a lot of people, they be like, sun and be little in comedians. Sometimes I got, I got to be little. I don't know if he really meant to do this, but. Story time. He did. Yeah. I almost ain't gonna say that. No, fuck all I know. That's a whole other thing. Yeah. What's in New York, right? And we did this fashion show. And my guy, he had this brand where he was like, I'm a high comedians. Wear my clothes on the runway. Oh, sure. And they're gonna come out, do a couple jokes on the runway. And then Lee, wearing the stuff. It's like Marlon Wayne's me. It's a bunch of bunch of cats. We all know him. We getting it. A Sam Jay. And I can't, it was a, a DC young fly. There's a bunch of us all on this joint. Right. So we all wear these fly clothes and stuff. And then we go to the after party. And Mr. Rapa do. You're, he had the sunglasses line. You had these sunglasses. And he was, he, every time he sees somebody, he had gunned the glasses and record them. Like unveiling the glasses and putting them on. And he had like record them like, yo, yo, no, no, no, joints, no, joints. His high son, you know, maybe, yeah, you will, yo, you, you do your thing. And he was shouting out his, his eye glass line. Right. And so we all sitting there, we all chilling. So he come up and he got his, he come up. Yo, yo, y'all was killing it. Everybody was like, yo, yo, that's what's up. So then he was like, he gave one person one of the comedies. He gave him some glasses. Yo, yeah, yeah. And they put them on. He filming them. Yo, these hot, these hot. And he was like, hi, and he was looking. And this, this me. This, this, this, this ward is me, right? This him with the glasses. Oh, I was saying, yo, you want some glasses here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you look dope. You want some glasses here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you hot. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Everybody around me got glasses. I'm sitting there like this. And he was just like. You, uh, you want some glasses? I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I want some glasses. He gave me the glasses. I'm going, I'm going to wrap in the glasses too. I'm going to wrap up the glasses. And I look at him. He on his phone. And I'm like, thinking myself, ain't you supposed to be recording me? I'm, I'm feeling revealed in the glasses like everybody else. Everybody else is done. He's filming and opening them up and they go, oh, and I'm like opening them up. And so I see him not filming. So I put them back in the package. And I'm like, wait, no, him and then he get off the phone. He like, uh, okay. And then he recording and I take him out and I take him out and I look. And he just like, recording everybody else. He ain't even on me. And I'm just like holding the glasses and then finally he, he get on me. And I'm just like, and so I just put them on. He like, he joins his dope. And I was like, thanks. Then he cut his camera off and just was like, and so I take the glasses off. And then the next day he posted everybody picture, we were wearing the glasses except for me. You know, I guess he felt like I wasn't large enough to wear his glasses. And I think he just gave me his glasses just to, you know, because I was there. Or whatever. And, uh, yeah, I guess he felt like I just wasn't large enough to wear his glasses. But the ill shit is, you know, the night, two nights later, I just went and sold out a 6,000 cedar. You know, and I'm quite sure him, himself. And I ain't, I ain't got no ill-willed against him and nothing like that. But I'm quite sure the one song that he did have, there's no way hell he could sell out. He just did a, of 6,000 people to hear that one song. Did you wear his glasses? What you before? No, I did not. I'd never worn him since. But y'all, they son you like you just, like you small. And it's like, do you know how much money comedians are getting? Oh, yeah. No band getting it. No backup singers. Musicians. It's a microphone and one guy and there's 6,000 people. Yo, let me ask you something. Let me ask y'all something. I couldn't wait to get here to ask y'all, be for real, for real. How do you feel about today's music? I, see me and I, it's hard to ask us because we are part of the tradition and the progression. So we have an appreciation for all of it because all of it has a place. Now, what I always encourage is for everyone who's doing music now to study the people who are doing music then. Don't miss that step because somewhere in that timeline is a recipe that makes sense for you. And you can take an apply as we were talking about Michael Jackson the other day. When you talk about Michael Jackson in order to truly be a great performer from Beyoncé to Bruno Mars, to Chris Brown, to you are grabbing ingredients from the greatest from Michael Jackson. You have to. When you talk about, when I'm trying to figure out this scream that I want to hear at my show, it's got a feeling sound like this. I'm listening to Distant Lover live, Marvin Gaye, and I'm studying how he's saying it, how he move it, how he goes into the song. Distant Lover don't start off like Distant Lover. It's a prelude. Yeah. And then it goes boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, Distant Lover. Oh my God. Baby girl, woman is having a baby on the third row. Twins. You have to. That's how you, that's how you stay grounded. Whereas in your gift in what you do has a foundation, but you're also tuned in to what's happening and what's working now. So I just say don't get too lost in the now, because the now is, it's quick, fast and hurry. The now is trendy. The now is all of these things that you can get caught up into and you can be here and gone and amitted. And admit it if you're just just attached to that. When you start dialing in to tradition and you start pulling in the pieces that kept those people, the reason why those people are around to this day, even if they're not alive. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think for me, I think it's because I've always asked so many questions. Right. I've always asked my grandfather, my mom, my daddy, what they liked, what people wanted to hear. Then now I asked those same questions to my children. And I think that for me is why I've personally been able to adapt to music and why I can still have appreciation for what's going on. Right. Because there were certain artists, I'll be very honest. I didn't understand NBA young boy at first. I didn't get it. I ain't going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I was like, oh, you got a couple of songs. I didn't understand. No. Really. Until I start having, telling my son, take the ox and we drive in the school before he got his car and we just listen and listen and listen. And I'm researching. I'm like, oh, I get it. I get why these kids are really tapped into him. I hear that. I hear that. I hear that the teenage angst. I hear that. You know what I mean? I can see why they're excited about it. I get the way that I was excited about Snoop Dogg. Or the way that I was excited about Joe to see, I can see how they're excited about Bryce and Tillor or they're excited about Chris Brown. And those type of things. And I've always listened with open ears. I can't tell you that about me. Like, it ain't always got to be right for me. It just got to feel right and it got to feel good. Right. And to me, this new music feel right and feel good. You know what I mean? For the place that you're in. Because that's the other thing about music. Music is the only thing that can travel with you throughout your life anywhere you're going. Right. You're going to hear it in movies. You're going to hear it at the games. You're going to, like, if I don't go to the basketball game or watch the basketball game on TV, I don't see it. I don't hear it. Music is different. Right. It's everywhere. Yeah. And you have a different emotion for it in different places. So now that I'm in the space with my son, I got the son, I'm in that moment with him. I'm with my daughter and she wants to play the K-pop sometime or then she want to play. I'm like, okay, I get it. Yeah. All right. What's the new young girl's a cat sigh? She's like, Dad, you got to think I've been a music business 100,000 years and I had never heard a cat sigh. My 10 year old daughter. Yeah, that's what she's into. It's like that. They got records. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm just, I just have an open mind for it. Yeah. And my parents had to open my, I didn't come from that household that said, you know, just the best way I can put it. My mother's favorite two artists were Prince and Ice Cube. Really nice. Doesn't make sense to the average person. But those were my mother's favorite, I'm talking about top of the top, Prince and Ice Cube. So imagine as a kid, I'm hearing everything in between. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I like, I like music for like, if I'm going to some turn up, if I'm in a club, you know, all that. When it comes to like R&B music and, you know, alternative, you know, just. I always feel like I'm just always complaining, but I don't mean to complain. I just be wanting chains to come, you know what I mean? I just don't feel no church. Well, I'm sorry. Okay, I mean, but I'm turned up. I'm turned all the way up. Let's go. Well, you go to me, you go, you go, you go here to have with a Jasmine Sullivan. You go here church. You hear church for Jasmine. All right. I'm just talking about, I'm talking about what is very few and far between now. No, yes, it's been then what it used to be. Like it used to be, that's where you go to find the singer. Yeah. That used to be like a prerequisite. Like I saw him. He was singing in the church one day and I was like, man, you go. It, those are the stories when you go from a Rita Franklin and you go, should you go to rock? You go to Whitney Houston and you go to like, so to me, I understand what you're saying in terms of one of the ingredients that is missing from today's all. It's missing and church and you don't even have to, it's just the, the, when it comes to the black, it's the filling. When it comes to black culture, what makes black culture is church. I don't think nobody's going to church no more because because you would be inspired by church. Well, who's other part to church is changed church has changed. I don't give you that. So like church used to be about the choir and we used to have the word three or four choir. So you had an opportunity to sing in church to be part of something, part of that movement. Then church slowly moved to the praise team. Some six people in the praise team. So didn't leave a whole lot of room for anybody to participate. Right. Whether it be those solos. They started making cuts like basketball or church. It, it, it was just a wave. The praise team just became. I mean, so I didn't, so as you, I didn't. I didn't want to church. Yeah. I grew up preaching, grew up him. So that's our battle. Chicago. Right, right. We came together. We want Chicago. Yeah. We both lifted off. Yeah, absolutely. No, I just, that's funny. You say that. But you're right. When I say church, I don't mean like church. No, you don't know. You're right. You're right. I used to wear church just if not more as rhythm. Mm hmm. The word is the root. It is. The word funk. Yes. The word funk. Oh, come from church. The word rhythm. All of it. And the word church. The black church. They all have. When you be like, man, it's funky. Or you'd be like this. It's so full. It's so full. It's, it's James Brown. And I just think that no, no, no, nobody has it. Yes, James Brown was a preacher. Angela was a church. Yeah. Mary was in church. Church. You know, and so all I'm saying is that are we done with, and I'm just asking the question. I don't think so. Are we done with church? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think it goes and everything goes away. It goes away. As we're having an R&B way. As we're having an R&B way. You're making a way back to the top of the conversation. Uh-huh. Now people are going to be like, okay, well, where are the singers at? Leon Thomas. Over there. Leon Thomas is a bad boy. Dad and he gets singing from a place. No, Leon Thomas is a bad boy. You know what I'm saying? Like so. Chris Brown was in church. Yeah. No, you can, you can tell Christians in church. Yes. You know what I mean? And I get that there are waves of music that has to be made. And I get that. I'm with it all day long, whatever. I think it's not that there's still some kind of church in there. You know what I mean? It's like, you're still going to fill it like, I know this is going to sound crazy. Like Gunnar, this album, this last album, I think I don't really even listen to that kind of album was phenomenal to me, duh. And I don't even really, I'm not like a trap kind of, do, I don't even know if you consider it a little bit like that, though. So my life is so much. It's a vibe. It's a vibe. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, I feel church in that dog. You feel it. You feel it. You feel a spirit. I feel church in it. I feel like it's so full of connection. Church is a connection. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, wow, this is this king. But that's also, but that can not. Not, that's also can be a result of someone being honest and bearing their heart and bearing their soul and something. And so that is going to create the connection needed, the feeling that you think because a lot of times, again, there's this trendy music. There's this attempt to chase what sounds good on radio. There's this attempt to chase, oh, chase the hottest producer, a chase the hottest songwriter. And in those instances, yeah, you can get a hit record, but is it, is it honest? Is it going to, is it going to penetrate? Like a lot of times it's like, that's what I think artists should, should, should focus on. Focus on, focus on the heart and the mind of where you are and, and use those songs to have that conversation. And that is how you get the people. Like, yeah, there can be, there can be, there can be bodies of work that don't have hit songs. But the conversation in that project is just like, oh, my God, this is incredible. And it, it gives you that spiritual connection that you need that can get lost in all of the computer and all of the shit, you know what I'm saying? And I just, we need to church, man. What's winning right now? Fame, fame, a talent. Fame. To me, fame is winning. Well, you know what, I have to say, it's more famed in here. I have to say fame because there are more people famous now for nothing than ever before. Like they're like, and not even just famous for nothing, famous for a little. Famous for, like you can go viral. Famous for anything other than a gift. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. God giving gift. Now it's, it's just a thing or something that you do enough of in your famous. Yeah. It's crazy, right? I ain't mad at anything. I'll take it. I'll go get a bag. Listen, listen. I'm not mad at nobody getting the bag. I'm not mad at none of that. I want everybody because everything. There's a balance. It's a balance in everything changes and it evolves. And you complain about it, ain't gonna stop it. I don't fucking think. Like I understand that totally. I want everybody to get money or whatever. I just want someone to still believe in what got all of us here. Well, you know what? Let me get going. It, it, it, it, it, it, it. It falls. The responsibility falls upon the people who actually want to see it and feel it. It does and it changes because I mean, but I don't know if do you, do you blame the artist? No, no, no, you blame the taste of the people. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, you don't blame nobody. It's just the, the evolution. It's on, it's, it's on everybody. Like as you say, you want to hear and feel a certain thing, right? When you DJ, you got to play it. Right. Right. Right. So it's on you. And now the people play that. And now the, the, the, now the people listening to you are going to be like this. Oh, what's that? Yeah. And now you are now reprogramming people to fall back in love with the true essence of where all that she said, as me and Jay say, we want to hear more or we want to see more. Okay. Well, we have to actively make it. We have to actively go look for. We can't wait for somebody else to, to, to, to do the thing that we know to do. And, and the, and the most talented have to work. Because a lot of times the most talented don't want to work. But I think that then I think that most talented people are inferior to us going on right now. No, they feel like they don't want to do the work. They don't want to do the work. I don't think so. I will know this. I watched, maybe y'all know, I watched with my own eyes. Kendrick Lamar come out sputtering. Niggas can say what they want in the beginning. Oh, yeah, we knew. I'm man. Listen. When Kendrick, top dog, TDE was first at Interscope Records. After they was out of the deal at Warner with Jay Rock and they was rebuilding a thing. It was not no guarantee. But what was guaranteed was he was a talented mother fucker from the beginning. Absolutely. So to see him go from like, oh, yeah, he's dope and we, we, we rocking with him. To now years later, be, oh, he, he can't right now. You know what I'm saying? Like he is, I was going to see him at a stadium. I remember going to see Kendrick at, was that, was the small room in a cross-free from Staples. Is it the Nova? It was, it was me and you. It was the club. Yeah. Yeah. The Nova. Something like that. I saw him open for hauling notes. What? I think that I did. I saw him open for hauling notes. And we spoke right out the, come on man. Come on. Yeah. To doing stadium work, the work, because it was everything. Oh, he's a backpack rapper. It's a this. He don't got the hits today, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, stadiums. All the talent in the world, but if he just rests on talent alone, if he doesn't figure out, if he doesn't do the work to make hit records, to create, to, if he doesn't do the work to curate his moments, the way that he does, because he's very particular about all of the moments that he's launched, if he doesn't do the work all of the talent, it's, yeah, nothing. But, but I just, I mean, then I hear you definitely, I just think that like, let's, let's bring it real quick, Rook, Andre 3000, right? Arguably one of the best ever did it. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Doesn't want to do music no more. Right. Why? I think that's just a personal choice. Yeah, personal choice. I think it's a personal choice. And from what I've heard him say, it's like, he like, I don't got an unravel about. I know, I heard him say that too. Maybe he thinks in his mind like a comedian, I didn't told these jokes already. I don't, I don't want to perform, hey, y'all again for him. He doesn't want to do that ever again. But that's what I'm saying. Sometimes people don't, people don't just don't want to be defined by a thing anymore. Who like, if I can't be, if I can't be new, if I can't be, I'm good, I've done it. I learned a lot today. Like, like, even if we go back in time and we talk about Whitney Houston, like Whitney Houston was just stand alone. She could stand alone for standing front of microphone and then whip your face off. But she did the work to create a show. Yeah. And to put something together, when you went to go see Whitney Houston, he was like, this is the most amazing thing I've ever seen. And then he had to dance, just was doing this and the band was in the lights. That's the work that had to go to you. Everybody don't want to work like Beyonce. Just a voice. Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson singing like that at nine. He didn't have to learn all that other shit. Right. But because he did, they see the end result. They see the concert at the stadium or they see the video and they see the all, they see the end result. But it's the process is the reason why there are only few artists that can live in that space. It's the process as to why only few comedians can live in that space. It's the work you've done. Yeah, yeah, definitely. It's the work, bro. I know, I know you before you had a Ferrari. I know why you have a Ferrari. I know why. It's not just because you're good. And all the spice pays. All spice pays. We only have one. They pay me one. They pay me one. I said, I was spice looking. I was like, I think they're going to make me a new guy. I think they're trying to face Dion and bring me in. Absolutely not. What do you mean? Maybe Dion can do something together with Frick. Absolutely. Thank you for coming by. We're now one. I tell people about my one wife. I was like, we're being Dion the Frick. We should collectively. Now we good. We good. We don't need them. We don't need them. Thank you. Thank you, though. I could be in the tub. I could be in the tub. I could be in the tub. I could be in the tub. Oh, spice coconut. Oh, spice coconut. It's a no sir. We're good. Thank you so much for coming by. Thank you. Look at all you. We know you get to know you. Because what I got from my one little Instagram camp. I was like, this is actually on TV. You know, I was like, please, please, please. Oh, yeah. I meant to call you, too. That's your good word for me. I wanted to tell you, though, did you know Phyllis Heimann? You used to always come to me. I was like, oh, yeah, I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. So Bernie Mac used to have this room called Milcheneers and he used to do, I don't know if you remember this show he had an HBO called Midnight Mac and there was like a variety show. He used to have an HBO. He's got these dances, a comedy, like a variety show type thing. Where he used to do that, this place called Milcheneers in Chicago. And all these celebrities are come. So Bernie would be like, man, host my show, I gotta go out of town. So I would like host the show sometimes, you know? And one time I was hosting the show and I was on stage and you just hear her go, boom. And I was like, I couldn't see from the lights. And I'm just like, anyway, trying to go on with the show and bring up that big offer. Just like going crazy, dark. And I'm like, am I gonna get off stage, go back on, boom, boom. So I'm like, who is this boy with me, dark? Like, what the hell? And so I get off stage. And one of the times I was like, shut up bitch. Like, why'd you, boom, why'd you, boom with me? And then one of the other guys, one of the band members was like, that's Phyllis Heimann. And I was like, who the fuck is Phyllis Heimann? And then, cause I didn't know who she was, dog. She was like, who's that? There was a chick from school days. That's how he said, chick from school days. I said for what? She was singing the school days. And my eyes like this. Oh, the life's kinda chick. He was like, yeah, my hair was all over her head. She had a white leather jacket on, shoulder pads like this, crop, right? Hair everywhere, no makeup, no nothing. She had this brown skin. Oh slick ass motherfucker. Then mustache, brown skin, and hugging her. That's all he did was this. And she's booing at anything she did. He's like, the boom. And she's like, God, I'm drinking like a cigarette. And then he was booing, motherfucker. And he like, so I'm like, whatever I leave, right? I go to another club called Cotton Club. I'm in the Cotton Club. And I'm waiting on these five minutes for a whole week, right? I get up in that gun state. Hey, how y'all doing? My name is, we don't give a fuck who your name is. A look is her, girl. Boom. I'm like, and I'm looking and I see her with that same nigga like that. He like, boom. Booing a shit out of me, dog. And then Camel State took the mic from me, started talking about me, dishing me in shit in front of everybody. Feel the time. Feel the time. And everybody in Chicago vouched this whole story. When this shit come out, people in Chicago tell you a place called Cotton Club. Dude named Jimmy Spinks used to run the Cotton Club. He used to be in the movie Car Wash. He was the real fat dude with the pancake. I don't used to run that, right? So everybody knows the story. Boo, boo, boo, boo. She come on stage talking about me. I tried to take the mic from her, shit, no, my fucking arm. You motherfuck this nigga ain't funny, fuck this nigga, no, no, no, no, no. Two days later, I'm at another spot. Now I'm nervous, right? I'm like, looking at an audience. He's like, look at the audience. I'm looking at an audience like. So I don't see her. So I go, making her go next, please. And they're like, nah, you like, that's about four more in front of you. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. And my mind, I'm like, I need to go up here now before she get up here. I know she gonna come and they're like, no, you gotta wait, my fuck. So I wait, I go on, she not there. But I'm nervous, I'm gone. Cause I'm nervous, cause I'm thinking she gonna be there. So next night I go to another spot dog. I go up in there that she go again. Boo, you motherfucker, you ain't shit. Came on the stage, snacked her mic again. So I grab another mic. I'm talking about her. She talking about me, we going out and shit, you little dick motherfucker, da da da da da. Just going off on me dog. And I just was like, and I couldn't win cause everybody was like, gone fellas, tell us that. It's not, fellas, fellas, fellas. And I just was like, dog, I just couldn't do it. So then the next time I was gonna perform dog, they asked me gonna stage and I was like, nah, I ain't going up there. Cause I seen the dude, car in the parking lot. And I was like, I know they in there. I'm like, I'm a bitch. So she's baby D. She's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's picking on you everywhere. Everywhere I went dog. And that shit went on for like, maybe like two weeks dog. Why? So at the end. So the last time she did that shit to me, I was like tearing up because I wait, I waited all that time to, you only get five, 10 minutes. Right. And then the whole week for five, 10 minutes and she kept fucking it up every time. And the last time she did it, man, I just was like, I don't know what to do. Cause I can't win because everybody loves this chick. I don't know who she is. Never heard of me. I knew her music and didn't know what it was her. Didn't know what it was her. So I just was like, I'm still thinking this to check from school days. And I'm just like, so now I'm like upset out there to show dog and I'm sitting outside. And it's cold as shit dogs, cold as fuck, her hair is everywhere, right? And my eyes die. You get the tears as cold coming on my face dog. And I'm just like, I don't know what to do. She came out there. Look, man, ain't nobody trying to fuck with you like that. Whatever I like you. I like, I like, I fuck with you. I fuck with you and shit. Actually, I want you to go on tour with me. You should, you should, you should go on tour with me. Open up, all right? Just open up, open up the shit up. Man up motherfucker, you can handle this shit. I just want to see if you can handle the shit. Come on, motherfucker, take your head over my nose, go my car, head over here. Once you open up the tour, got damn it, shit. Like a little bitch ass motherfucker, you can handle these shit. And I just was like, I was like, don't be saying that shit. She was like, no, I'm serious motherfucker. Remember, I said, don't set me up like for a, she was like, I'm serious, she was like, I'm sorry, are you all right? motherfucker, not like, calm, calm, come on, let's go, just shit, got damn it, come get your drink, come on. I went in that shit and I didn't think it was a nail at the end. What you drinking? I'm like, I ain't drinking that. I don't know who that dude was. I don't know. He wasn't, he wasn't no good. And then I say three weeks after that, how many of you call me once, three weeks after that, they say she passed away. Pass away. I kept the car with the number on it and my mom's house forever. I had it like in this book, kept it there, yeah. But everybody knew I did Mark, comedian, friend Tony Scofields, there. Everybody, all comedians in Chicago, they all knew about it. They helped me see, heckled me every day because she liked me. It was trying to make you better. Trying to hurt my, and hurt my, yeah. Like if you can handle this, you can come and roll with me. Wow. Ain't that crazy? I make you say that I saw the car. I was like, fill this, fill this, I'm in and then check this out as she passed away. I went and went back to listen. Somebody was like, have you ever heard a music? And I was like nah. And then they played a music and I said, oh, I do know this song. I said that's her. It was like yeah. Then I heard another song. I said I heard this before too. Then I started going down this rabbit hole, man. Not just, I was just crying like, wow. She was so, she was different, man. She just, I think she was so scorned like them last days, or whatever. I think this was different. It was different for red. But she was so red. For man, she, man, she looked nothing like in school days. She wouldn't be knowing who was hurt. She was walking around Chicago. She had the same thing on every time I saw jeans in a white leather jacket, like 80s kind of jacket, shoulder pads. And her hair was this short. She just slick it back. And she just had a cigarette from her drink. It's just everyday. It's like, it's fucked up everyday. Just chilling and shit. Yeah. Wow. I think that crazy. Wow. This snake was getting heckled by Philip's pass away. Oh, school. Yeah, that's, I think that crazy. That story. Wow, bro. Yeah, true story. ["The Star of the World"] Get your vocals ready. What? What? It's scared now. Yeah. How does it sleep? Yeah. Mr. Dionco, we invited you here to get some musical information from you. Yeah. You got it, too. You know it's shit. From being heckled by Philip's hymen, to all the success you've had touring around the world, television and film hanging out with our Kelly Ishika. My, my, my, my. I know there's a tool set to help shape the life of a wonderful man. Mr. Dionco, as you've come to the Army Money Podcast, the fans want to know what they want to know, chief. They want to know you are. Top five. Yeah. Your top five. Yeah. Top five. Your top five. I would be his singer. I would be songs. We've got to know before you go. Here on this show, everybody wants to know your top five. Yeah. Oh, I'm a rocker. Top five. Oh. I. Your top five. That was amazing. Yeah. You can tell me man. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was great. Your top five. Oh, and B. Singers. Top five. Five R and B. Singers. Top five. They don't live anytime. Just your top five. They could just talk what you feel right now. Five. Five. R and B. Singers. Whitney. Mm-hmm. Come on. There we go. I'm going to tell you who my number one is. Look how the gate bloated. It's an argument for us. I'm going to tell you who my number one is. The greatest singers of all time to me. Yeah. I don't do a lot of us. I don't really know nobody else. I can really kill it like him. But Whitney. Luther. Whitney Luther. Prince. Yeah. Patty. Yeah. Is that for? Yeah. I'm just spit balling right now. I want to say Anita. I want to say Anita has a Anita Baker. Yeah. I was a full time stamp in my life. Yeah. That was unreal. How she sang and sings. Listen to those records every day. Is that my dad? Yeah. Can I use your stereo? Yeah. You go ahead. Yeah. Put that album on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I couldn't understand that I was learning how to play. I was teaching myself how to play piano. And what I was hearing on those songs was like, what the fuck is that? Yeah. And there's never been duplicated. No. No. She's too unique. She can't even. You can't even. You can't even duplicate it. You have to, like somewhere along the line, God is going to have to give if he chooses to somebody that vocal chain. Yeah. And he's standing. The idea is behind it. There's no vocal chain. Yeah. Yeah. The closest to me is Tony Braxton. That's the closest. Yes. Remember we were talking about Chris been clean. She's cleaner. Her voice. Cause Tony is... Tony got some grunge on her voice. I need a baker as... Her voice resonates. There's a certain clarity at the top of it. It just... And she's... And she's anointed. Yeah. She sang Happy Birthday to Usher one day and I cried a little bit. I would've... I'm in the rain light... It was. It was. I felt it. Yeah, man. She, um, I don't know why more people don't talk about her like that. Well, because like, it's like you said, it's hard to duplicate it. Yeah. The ones that you can study and still things from and, and, and, and really grab a piece of it and understand it and replicate it all the time. We can, we can all figure out how to do the moonwalk. Yeah. But we can all go, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. Yeah. We can duplicate that. Yeah. You can't do it. We can't hurt her. Anita? Yeah. I was something on my mind and I asked this before somewhere and this is a great, great fucking place to ask this. I'm not, but I'm, I'm going off. I'm going off. Of course, we're doing so. Hold on, hold on, hold on. And then I know we got to get out of here. You're right. Let's listen. And I, and I brought this up before I went to go see you two at the spear. Hmm. Best concert ever seen my life. Right. I'm going to imagine. Okay. I'm talking. Hit out the hit out the hit. Right. Yeah. You two sold out five shows a week at 20,000 people for five months straight. Now, sometimes it was two shows a day, which made them do four days a week, something like that too. Maybe a, maybe a three and a eight, whatever the five, five shows a week, right? For five months straight. I'm going to do five shows a week. I'm going to do five shows a week. For five months straight. What black artists do you know that can do that? That's alive because I feel is though that when it comes to the Rolling Stones and YouTube and all and and arrow Smith and whatever, like they have a cult following because a lot of white people, they follow these careers of their legends and they keep them alive and they keep their music alive and they pass it down today generations of people and they they go see them constantly and they know these songs or whatever. When it comes to our black artists, I'm talking a lot. I'm talking a lot. I'm talking. I'm talking. I'm talking. When it comes to our black artists, we don't pass that down and then if we do pass it down, we're not going to support them and see them like that. And I said this on other shows before, like I went to go see artists and been in the audience and been like, why? Why ain't there so many people here? What you got to think about this though too? How many of our artists have established a platform that big? And this is what I'm saying. First of all, anybody that could have is dead. Because it's only two R&B artists doing stadiums right? Why? I say because this is also you two takes time off, right? Yeah, they do take time off. Yeah. So the only artist that I believe could do that, would you just say five shows, 20,000 people? I know the numbers. Be honest. Be honest, I can do it. If she takes five years off, four years, a couple years off and they're like, this is the finale. Because that's how they, that's also how they promote those runs. They promote those runs as you may never see them again. You may never see this again. But I don't, I don't look at, and I get it, but I don't look at Beyonce as a, she's a legend. Don't get me wrong. She's legendary and all that, but I still think she's relevant right now with every thing. Oh, yeah, no, she's still making the music. Yeah. So I'm talking about a legacy artist that's not making it. I'm talking about it. Thank you. We don't have that. I'm talking about it. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, but do we have one five, but, but, but, but, but, is it one that has, that has built their brand? Like you got to probably you too, that they've been doing stadiums. Yeah, but, so, what's right, it takes, it takes that level of fan based an artistry to even get to a point to where you can do it. So I can't, so I can't, a black artist do that, but who's been in stadiums? So that's right. The art is massive like that. It's dangerous Michael Jackson, and that's what I'm saying. That's all I let them say and we don't have that. And, and I, and I, we don't, we don't, we don't, we don't, we don't support through the generation. You know, the one person I thought can do that, Diana Ross, Diana Ross, that's the only person and, and look at y'all. I know. I'm showing that a five show, we, now if you did, you did Diana Ross on the weekend. That's an, and I'm being, I'm being generous. I think Diana, all the weekend sold out. Okay. Weekend sold out five days of weekend. Five days, that's a, that's a five days. It'd be tough. Yeah, it'd be tough to do. But no, you Diana Ross is absolutely in that conversation. Now, we add Lionel Richie, earthwinter, fire and Diana Ross as a package show sold out every night. Cause that's, that's also what black people ask for. Package show. We won't package the fuck. We want to pay a little bit for a lot. We going package some show. Yeah. But I just wanted to ask if y'all had any, nobody, it was nobody, right? No. No, just one way of being putting out current music and that, no. Okay. Go ahead. So, all right. We finished. All right. You guys five top five R&B singers, top five R&B songs, top five R&B songs, R&B songs, R&B songs. But, but whatever, top five R&B songs that I think or that is you, this is all you and this. Don't nobody right up but you not in this order, but I'ma say this, sex you are color me bad. Are you getting out there? That's where you going? Are you getting out there? You're taking me back to high school. That is one of the greatest songs. I love it. You can argue me in here. You can argue me in here. Time's there. You're not getting an argument here. Ever creating. I'm wish fire. Fire. It's, it's, it's, it stands to test the time forever. Here it. Yeah. Right? It's all time. Okay. All time. I heard it all before. Hmm. My wife would love you for that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I can go to the Marvin Gaye and I would be all that you know that. I just, I'm just talking about this. You know. You know. You know. You know. You know. Just you know. You know. Just you know. Just you know. You know. Just you know. Just you know. That song by shy. That was... And if I ever fall in love? I know what you're doing. That was crazy. How much you're doing? Yeah. Yeah. Tender love. Yeah! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen. Okay. It's rocking. You're DJing right now. Come on, man. What's five? What's five? You're cooking. You're cooking. Tender love with off the meter. Great rhythm. It's so hard, man. I don't know. I can't... I can't... I can't be sung. That's what. There you go. One left. Some... Some loop the... Any loop the song. I'm feeling... Come on, seconding. Come on. Always scared. And night. I'm feeling... Yeah. And... Yeah. And I'll tell you about it. No, I'm sorry. I just want you to keep singing. No, I'm not. I'm sorry, I'm not. I'm sorry, I'm not. The night I fell in love. I think I'd have the name of it. The night I fell in love. I think I'd be there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I... You can listen to that forever. You DJ. We go clip that, you see. We definitely want to clip that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We definitely want to clip that, you see. We definitely want to clip that. That's a clip. Okay, let's do your R&B Voltron. Okay. You're a super R&B artist. You got to put this artist together from all the artists ever. So which artist are you going to get the vocal from to make your super R&B artists to perform its style, the styling, the passion of the artist? Is that all? Is that four or five? Yeah, that's it. Is it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. What can we just go open? Yeah. What can we just go open? I knew the five was there for a reason. So what vocal? Who's vocal from the beginning of time? Are you going to get to be your super R&B artist? One vocal. That allow? It allows. Oh, shit. Luther. Luther's the singer. The singer. The singer. The singer. The singer. The singer. The singer. The singer. The singer. The styling. The drip of the artist. Michael. Yeah. The passion of the artist. Who may be? Who mean it? Whitney. Yeah. And what comedian is opening for this artist? Damn. Damn. Damn. How you done needed the loving laughter stuff? Of sure. No. I haven't even seen it. I wanted to go. I haven't done that. No, I'm saying like when I'm saying like with you and the R&B artist, if you ever don't even know. No, no, no. Man, what you want to do? Stop playing. Stop playing. Oh, man, that'd be crazy. No. We'll be so funny and be so dope, music and everything. Can I say this to you? And I'm not just saying this though straight up. And I'm just saying this because we hear whatever. But when you wrote, when we, that's another one of them songs. It's like, it's just, it stands to test the time. That's going to always be around. And it's simple. It's just the simplicity of that. It's just, that song was so simple. I did. It ain't a whole bunch of words. Nope. I ain't a whole bunch of just, this and that and what I'm a promise. It's a, it's a rhythm. It's a groove. It's church. Like it's church in that. I ain't got me. It's spiritual. Who is church in that? No spiritual. I promise you this. Oh, shit. Man. Well, that's the problem. When I'm up, when I first heard that, I said, I was like, oh, I was like, what's this? Next is like, this tank. They started doing this. I was like, you know, I fuck a lot of old woman. I got into one of your parties. I got into one of your parties. I'm running out one night. You were in the middle of your party. It's cracking in here. I need you. I walked in. I slept. I was like, oh, I'm going to be a little bit more. I walked in. I slept so much being gay. Oh, shit. Oh, my boy, Charles, he's been sitting all the time. Everyone with him there held a blouse. And a slip. And a slip. Everybody got slip on them. There you go. There you go. There you go. There you go. I looked at the tank. I see it. It ain't for me. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. It ain't for me. Hey, man. I'm notorious for that, too. People come to my party. Nick's walking in there being like, hey, had the nerve to have me like, welcome. Any of the nerve to have me like, the Zin Lounge, when the Zin Lounge didn't even exist. No more, I see it. Oh, yeah. You like, hey, hey. You didn't have your tank. It's cracking in here. You just, I'm literally, this is, shit. Have it up for you. Oh, you heard it was, well, alright. Do me, do me, do me. Oh, yeah. Man, I wasn't going to have shit. I wasn't going to bring up. He brought it up. He brought it up. He brought it up. I'm going to bring up. I'm going to bring up. I'm going to bring up. I'm going to bring up. He did this night. Oh, yo, yo, I'm messing with it. Back in my hair. God, God, God. I got one more section. Then we can't get out of here. Oh, no. You all can, you say me, God, I think it's so... It's not, I'm into your body. I'm into your body, it's not. It's not, man. It's cracking in here. Everybody got a castle roll. You know, some brothers, some brothers. Some brothers. Yeah. Bow on the butterscotch. But, do what? Grab your butterscotch before you let you a man on the way out. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, here we go. I ain't saying no name. I ain't saying no name. I ain't saying no name. I ain't saying no name. I ain't saying no name. I ain't saying no name. I ain't saying no name. I ain't saying no name. All right, man, we here. We're gonna throw all stories. Oh, shit. That's funny. Man, we're part of the show. We'll tell us a story. Funny or fucked up? I don't know if you're gonna get more funny or fucked up to the fullest time in history. I think that was it. Oh, I didn't think it was gay to class. Oh. I didn't think it was gay to class. But the only rule to the game is you can't tell us no names. So you said, man, bro. I know you got another one. Come on, this. Okay, let me think. Man, I'm crying real. I think one time I was doing this. I was doing the show. We're doing this open mic. We're performing. And the guy that was running the open mic. I was younger. The guy that was over the open mic. It says to all of us. You know, everybody. He goes like this. You all got five minutes, all right? Five minutes and get off you go of your time, cutting music on you. You gonna get off stage, all right? And when everybody do their time, get on out of here. He looks at my guy named, no names. He looks at my guy. I mean, my guy named goes, he's a magician. My guy, he was like this. Don't do that fire trick. Seel is too low for that bullshit. You're cut the sprinklers on the shit. Don't do that fire shit. You be doing all right? So don't, like, you hear me right? Don't do that shit. All right, everybody have a good show. So my guy like this. And that's my, that's my clothes and bed. And I was like this, maybe if you start with it. What? You can get it out the way here, really. And just don't do, don't do all the fire. Just do some of the fire. He was like this. Yeah. All right. So he gone stage and he got there. You know, he got there. He got the velvet coat, got the ruffles. The sleeves. He's, you know, the tanker. He goes up there. He looks at me. He came in and went. I'm like, and he says, like, and he got his fire. And he has his fire. And he's like going back and forth with the guy in the pack. Like, my mother fuck, I told you. Don't do that fucking fire. Shit, motherfucker. And he like this. Huh? He like, it's going to be real quick. Throw him off his shit. Like fire catch on his shirt. His fire, all my, his ruffles right. And he see the fire. And he trying to get the fire off his ruffles. And he like throw the fireball over here. And he's like, my, this, now, this is on fire. And I get it. And I just sit, sit on fire and shit. And he hit the ground and we all run up there. And his whole shit burning and we start stomping him. We stomping the fire out of him. As we stomping the fire, all our chupins on his belly, cut right. As we stomping him, all his tricks to shoot him out his jacket. Shit. So it's, and so coming. So it's, it's, it's bouquets of flowers and, and, and these hanky chips, cards to shoot out the shit. We stomping his neck. Dump some dove shot out his jacket. I'm not bullshitting. I'm, I'm not making this up. So dove shot out his jacket. We all scream because we didn't believe this nigga had birds in his jacket. Then his rapping came and a rabbit ran and we like, oh shit. And as he stomping on, we get him, we get the fire out. And he lift up and he's like days because we stunk the shit out of him. And he liked this. And the first thing he said was, anybody see what's in my jacket? And we was like, no, no, anybody, anybody see what's in your jacket? Right behind him, Mr. Bigger, it's nigga chasing a rabbit. He came out his jacket, dubs everywhere, all that shit everywhere. Niggas is like trying to kick that shit under the table. He get up, he going to bathroom, he in there for like three minutes. Then he just busts out the bathroom, run out the door and he run outside. Because I think he went in there and like licked in his jacket and no size shit was gone. And he just closed his jacket and he ran outside. He was so embarrassed. Niggas? This is the epitome of whoop that trick. This is the funny shit ever. Niggas. Oh my god. Dude, he was laying like this. That shit was my- You in everyone. We in the room. Zing, zing, zing. Zing, zing. And you told him to start off winning. Dude, I think you do it earlier. Earlier wasn't going to stop this quickly. Bro, like what? Because I know how long I've seen it so many times. I know how long it took. I was like just doing a little bit of the fire up top. Now it's it. And he just went through the way to it. But duh, yeah. That's great. That is great. I was so good at funny. Yeah. You're stopping this nigga. He's living right free. In my mind forever. Now here's the trick. It's the tricks coming out. Duh, all through our cards. Yeah, all the duh. True story. It's a day I'm cold. Listen, man, we love you brother. We appreciate you. This is brother. Thank you. We need it. Just pull up, man. We need it. God, thank you all for having me, man. I love you, platform. I love it so much, man. This is so great. So needed. So refreshing. So great. Thank you so much. We appreciate you all, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human.