PMS 2.0 1545 - Overreaction Monday with Adam Schefter, Shams Charania, Danny Green, Jesse Cole, Nelly Korda
168 min
•May 5, 202626 days agoSummary
The Pat McAfee Show covers overreaction Monday with guests including Adam Schefter, Shams Charania, Danny Green, Jesse Cole, and Nelly Korda, discussing NBA/NHL playoffs, NFL offseason moves, Kentucky Derby results, and emerging sports entertainment trends.
Insights
- Live entertainment and fan experience are becoming primary drivers of sports attendance, as evidenced by Savannah Bananas selling 102,000+ tickets through gimmick baseball and experiential design
- Athlete mental health and perspective shifts are critical to performance recovery; Nelly Korda's turnaround from winless 2024 to back-to-back major wins came from lifestyle changes and team stability rather than swing mechanics
- Sports integrity and rule enforcement remain contentious; debate over flopping, foul-baiting, and player accountability suggests the NBA may need to re-emphasize defensive physicality to improve product quality
- Emerging talent in competitive sports (Wimby, Anthony Edwards, Cam Young) is generating significant viewership and engagement, with injury recovery timelines becoming public narrative drivers
- Cross-sport athlete development and family legacy (Korda family, Ortiz jockey brothers) continue to shape competitive advantage and fan engagement in traditional sports
Trends
Live entertainment integration in sports stadiums: College football stadiums hosting concert-style events with 100,000+ attendanceAthlete transparency and mental health narratives: Players openly discussing recovery, doubt, and lifestyle changes as part of competitive storytellingRapid injury recovery expectations: Athletes pushing return timelines (Anthony Edwards 9 days post-injury) challenging traditional medical protocolsGimmick sports and rule innovation: Alternative sports formats (Banana Ball) attracting younger demographics through entertainment-first approachSocial media accountability in sports: Mascot feuds, player streaming, and real-time commentary creating viral moments and engagementMulti-sport athlete families as competitive advantage: Generational sports knowledge and coaching infrastructure in families like Korda and OrtizSports betting integration in mainstream media: Point spread analysis and betting picks becoming standard playoff commentaryInfluencer-driven sports promotion: Jesse Cole's yellow banana suit and promotional genius model expanding beyond baseballAthlete brand extensions: Professional athletes (John Cena, Nelly Korda) leveraging entertainment platforms beyond traditional sport competitionPlayoff parity and upset narratives: First-round upsets and competitive balance generating higher viewership than expected blowouts
Topics
NBA Playoffs Second Round Strategy and MatchupsNHL Playoff Scoring Trends and Rule ChangesNFL Offseason Trades and Quarterback EvaluationLPGA Performance and Women's Golf CompetitivenessSports Entertainment and Fan Experience DesignAthlete Injury Recovery and Return-to-Play ProtocolsSports Integrity and Flopping/Foul-Baiting RegulationCollege Football Stadium Events and Live EntertainmentKentucky Derby and Horse Racing ViewershipAlternative Sports Formats and Youth EngagementProfessional Wrestling and WWE Content StrategySports Betting and Playoff PredictionsAthlete Mental Health and Performance PsychologyCross-Sport Athlete Development ModelsSocial Media and Sports Personality Branding
Companies
ESPN
Broadcast partner for NBA/NHL playoffs, sports news coverage, and featured content platform for athletes and analysis
NFL Films
Produced 'The Pick Is In' series featuring Adam Schefter during draft coverage with Skydance partnership
NBC Sports
Broadcast partner for Kentucky Derby (19.6M viewers) and NBA/NHL playoff games
Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team
F1 team with dominant 2024 season performance; Kimmy Antonelli won three consecutive races as rookie driver
Savannah Bananas
Alternative baseball entertainment company selling 102,000+ tickets through Banana Ball format and fan-first experien...
LPGA Tour
Professional women's golf league; Nelly Korda discussed as dominant player with back-to-back major championship wins
WWE
Professional wrestling organization; John Cena announced return for Backlash event after retirement announcement
Detroit Tigers
MLB team; pitcher Tarik Skubal undergoing elbow surgery, sidelining him 2-3 months during free agency period
Miami Dolphins
NFL team; Malik Willis threw opening pitch at stadium, symbolizing quarterback transition and fan engagement
Philadelphia 76ers
NBA team; defeated Boston Celtics in first round; Joel Embiid and Tyrese Maxey leading second-round playoff push
Oklahoma City Thunder
NBA team; championship favorites with strong chemistry and defensive excellence; facing Lakers in second round
New York Knicks
NBA team; facing 76ers in second round with Jalen Brunson as key player; favored by 7.5 points
San Antonio Spurs
NBA team; facing Timberwolves with Victor Wembanyama; favored by 11.5 points in second-round matchup
Minnesota Timberwolves
NBA team; Anthony Edwards attempting to return from knee injury 9 days post-hyperextension for playoff game
Colorado Avalanche
NHL team; played high-scoring game against Minnesota Wild (15 goals total) in second-round playoff opener
People
Adam Schefter
Discussed NFL offseason moves, AJ Brown trade to Patriots, and Braedon Sorsby supplemental draft eligibility
Shams Charania
Provided NBA playoff updates including Anthony Edwards injury status, Joel Embiid health, and coaching searches
Danny Green
Former three-time NBA champion discussed playoff matchups, flopping issues, and player health assessments
Jesse Cole
Discussed alternative baseball entertainment model, 102,000-ticket stadium events, and fan-first business philosophy
Nelly Korda
18-time LPGA champion discussed back-to-back major wins, mental health recovery, and swing mechanics with daughter in...
Pat McAfee
Show host; celebrated daughter Mackenzie's third birthday; discussed sports across NFL, NBA, NHL, golf, and entertain...
AJ Hawk
All-time leading tackler for Green Bay Packers; discussed playoff picks and sports analysis throughout episode
Darius J. Butler
Nine-year NFL veteran; provided playoff analysis and sports commentary throughout episode
Joel Embiid
Discussed as key player in Sixers' playoff run; playing through injuries after appendectomy and hyperextension
Anthony Edwards
Attempting to play 9 days after knee hyperextension and bone bruise; pushing team medical staff for game one return
Victor Wembanyama
Discussed as potential MVP and championship contender; facing Timberwolves in second-round playoff matchup
Tyrese Maxey
Praised for playoff performance and speed; key to Sixers' first-round comeback and second-round success
LeBron James
Discussed as championship contender facing Oklahoma City Thunder; same age as both head coaches in series
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Discussed as one of best players in world; leading championship-favorite Thunder team with strong chemistry
Sherri Devreux
First-ever female trainer to win Kentucky Derby with Golden Tempo; historic achievement in horse racing
Kimmy Antonelli
19-year-old rookie won three consecutive F1 races; first driver to convert first three poles into three victories
John Cena
Announced return to WWE for Backlash event after retirement announcement; will not wrestle but participate in show
Cam Young
Called himself on rules violation during tournament; demonstrated integrity by self-reporting ball movement
Malik Willis
Threw opening pitch at Miami stadium; overthrew ball in first pitch ceremony as new Dolphins quarterback
Tarik Skubal
Two-time AL Cy Young winner undergoing elbow surgery for loose bodies; sidelined 2-3 months during free agency
Quotes
"I'm living my best life like I've said it many times I'm like I'm living my best life like I'm having so much fun on the golf course but I think it came because last year was a really hard year for me I didn't win at all"
Nelly Korda•Nelly Korda segment
"We obsess over the fan experience so fans start showing up at two o'clock for a seven o'clock game there were 40,000 people in the plaza four hours before the game"
Jesse Cole•Jesse Cole segment
"Find the ball hit it again find the ball hit it again and then once you start to get hooked on the game like then you can kind of dissect like okay where should I get better"
Nelly Korda•Golf tips segment
"I still think it is on track I still think it's going to happen I still think it will involve a future one likely at 2028 first round draft"
Adam Schefter•Schefter segment
"Family won today don't cry like smack super Italian hey yeah listen don't you cry today if you're going to lose anybody you lose to your brother family won today"
Rapoli•Kentucky Derby segment
Full Transcript
Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this overreaction Monday May 4th, 2026 this sports program begins. Sports are absolutely fantastic and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them every single day. The weekend was loaded with sports awesome but I do have to take a moment to celebrate. It is my daughter's third birthday today. Happy birthday Mackenzie. I have no idea if she's watching this right now or will be forced to see it later in life. Mackenzie has turned three. It's been 1,095 days I do believe of just absolute magic as I learned what love is through the eyes of a little baby girl named Mackenzie. Mackenzie I love you. I can't wait for you to get into sports more. Remember she had a run with soccer this year. It was a little hair miss but she certainly showed up, kicked the balls and she's the go and obviously baby on the way and mama's kicking ass so we appreciate you Mackenzie. Happy birthday pretty girl. She's going to be I think it's 2040 World Cup in 2039 Olympics I do believe if my math is right she has a chance to potentially be the youngest for both of those. We are still on track you know without it's good. I'm seeing 16 year olds playing over in Germany. I got a lot of stuff but nonetheless I cannot wait to watch her continue to grow. You're a badass happy birthday. Now May the 4th be with all the Star Wars nerds out there too which I have massive respect for my family is Star Wars nerd as you hear toxic table one of those let's just enjoy anything that is a celebration. We will certainly do that sports had a lot of it this weekend. There are some hearts broken. There are some hearts broken as the first round that both the NBA and the NHL is playoff series are now officially done and we've moved on to the final eight for both of those and just know the city of Boston was representing in both of those sports. They now no longer have a team in any race. Speaking of race Golden Tempo congratulations big time. Well done. Sherri DeVro. First ever woman trainer for Derby winner. I think we're going to get a chance to catch up with her this week should be a blast. So many great things have Golden Tempo is way back here in the ass and to the horse. They never want to be on the ass side of a horse. You always want to be on the nose side of a horse and Golden Tempo says I don't like being back here. A mutter a finisher a closer a cold weather giant Golden Tempo twenty three to one odds make it a run. Hi hi hi. We'll get to the final stretch and it would turn into a two horse race between Golden Tempo. The first ever horse that was trained by a woman in Kentucky Derby to go on the wind taking on renegade owned by Rapoli both Jockeys brothers. Your t's brothers are battling against each other. We're coming down with our blood. But what about buying bang renegade the favorite. Who's is Golden Tempo Kentucky Derby champion. What a race. What an incredible photo here by Gabby Sorrentino G Sorrentino TV. I believe she's social media does a lot of digital stuff gets an incredible photo of the Ortiz brothers here finishing one to Sherri DeVro. I believe we'll be joining the program this week. Can I wait to talk about it. It was nice watching it. Yeah. More viewers than they've had in forever. I guess 19.5 million viewers or whatever the case was a huge huge ratings for the Kentucky Derby. Any time sports get celebrated we appreciate it. And that's what we're going to talk about today. All of them. We got Schefter joining us in about 10 minutes. He was a part of a series called the pick is in. Yes. Brought to you by NFL Films. Good. Good. Great. Had no idea what's happening. That's on us. Is it on us. There's a lot of other stuff going on and probably the worst possible time you could have ran that. But I agree. We should have known. Yes. BN. Seven o'clock Sunday. Everybody knows that's whenever you run something that's brand new from NFL Films and Skydance. How did we not know about that. Those clips are awesome. How did we not know about that. Four game sevens yesterday. I don't know. I don't know. You tell me. I don't know. I know it was chef. He mikes up the whole time because we certainly had conversations with him in the back. He never did one of these at all. It's like what. So who's doing who's doing what. Was that. I wouldn't expect that. Ninety year NFL. That derriest. Brother. Can we get a common courtesy. I mean who knows. Hey watch what you say. Just a couple of these. Just one of those. Chef D. We didn't know until I started seeing the clips come out. I'm like how long was Chef D. bugged. I mean what do we what all. That's not good. I had a conversation with him. That's talks at table at Boston Connor and toxic tone right there. Sounds like you're a little bit worried potentially about the. Happening to yours for me. I just probably talk shit on somebody that probably you know probably was in the in. I've never talked to anybody at NFL films. That's either. But Jesus Louise we need to know whenever people are mic'd up making great things. The pick is in was fantastic. That was really good. Shepter was a big piece of it obviously because he's a mover and shaker was on ESPN alongside NFL films. Feels like it might be their new hard knocks. You know this is something that we don't normally get to see finding new stuff as people are trading. Then we have Sean Shawney will be here obviously for the NBA. Jesse Cole who's Mr. Yellow Banana suit. Yeah formal name. Yeah. At Yellow Tux Jesse. There he is. Genius this guy. Entrepreneur extraordinaire Ringling circus leader. Yes. I believe. What's that song. The greatest show. The greatest show. That feels like Jesse Cole is from that. You know he is a promoter by nature. Sport of baseball obviously was his first you know venture. We'll find out why and how now he's selling out football stadiums 100,000 plus tickets in San for gimmick baseball still baseball gimmick baseball. Putting on an incredible show. Now what is the demo probably younger than us. But any time something like this is happening in the sports world you should celebrate the shit out of it. Whatever gets somebody into sports whatever gets somebody into baseball whatever gets somebody out of their house to go celebrate something in a community type setting which this place Texas A&M down there. Wonderful community. Yeah. I mean they are all in midnight before the midnight. Yeah I got a chance to be there. They had 30,000 people packed into the stadium at midnight the night before they go 100 sub thousand deep here for Savannah bananas game against the Texas tailgaters and I'll tell you what he was a nail biter down there. Yeah. A fan outs on foul ball. All this shit unbelievable success story both business and sports wise and I believe he was sleeping on like a mat at where a mattress at one point in like a garage because he was so in debt as he believed in this thing. Now it's working out pretty well for him. Can't wait to catch up with him and then Nelly Korda LPGA job. Goat. Yeah we'll be joining us. Can't wait to talk to her. She has 18 LPGA wins three major wins a gold medal winner. She's 27 years old 10 years on the tour and absolute stud and she Hey. I went down to Augusta. I was invited to the Masters. I know I should have been there. Sure. It was nice to be here. Got a golf lesson. Guy told me I had on a brick wall. Yeah. Right here like this. We'll just give you a brick wall and then load it on the back. What and then go ahead and release that thing. Perfect. She has the perfect swing. She does. She has the perfect swing and we cannot wait to chitch out with her about how I can maybe get better at the golf. That would be great. But also mentally how she's so damn locked in started as a professional as a 17 year old. It feels like we've known of her for a while has placed a lot of pressure on her to be the next one. And then whenever she's putting well she's dominant and she wins back to back tournaments here. Mexico yesterday. Last week was the Chevron Championship which was her third major seems be a little bit of a hit. I can't wait to catch up with Nelly Korda. So it should be a fun day. Toxic tables at Boston Connor and at toxic tone. Ty Schmidt. He's got a good life going on right now. He will be away for a few. We want to tell Ty and his family we love him. Congrats. Love you. Ty. Now on that note. You're sitting right next to a Boston fan that just has nothing really going for him. Nothing really going for him. He's wearing a Patriots hoodie which I think is a good distraction. But if you walk outside there's only going to be one thing that people are asking about with the New England Patriots and that's not ball. And that's not make it so graphic. Yeah. I don't know what it was. Hoops. So I mean that now you got the Celtics just losing the Sixers and I'll tell you what Sixers look pretty good. I'm good at basketball. But Joe Missoula. What's going on with this guy. It's going on. Can he win. This guy's favorite to win. Then he doesn't win. Is he not a winner. When I believe Joe Missoula is one of the best up and coming coaches. One of the best coaches in the NBA going to be around for a long time. They're going to talk about him being a hero. Then he start bringing up stuff like hey he's favorite in this loss. He's favorite in this loss. They're supposed to win this one. They're supposed to win this one. They lose this one. This guy can't get the job done. It's like well they did win a championship. They did not enough though. And I feel like that's how Boston fans feel. So then Boston Celtics fans like no big deal. Let's go and turn our attention to the Bruins. The Bruins just got their asses beat by the Sabres. So tough week and tough couple weeks for New Englanders. Are you OK. And what are your thoughts on the state of the second round of these playoffs that no longer have any mass hole representation. Yeah. I mean I'm OK. Look the Boston Celtics have seen them lose in the finals at home in recent memory. The Boston Bruins game seven once again at home seeing them lose in the Stanley Cup final. So not the worst possible thing. Now those things don't happen back to back. It was tough having Friday night Sabres get killed. Roll right into Saturday Celtics Jason Tatum doesn't play all of a sudden. How the hell did that happen. Luca Garza is in the starting lineup. What the hell is going on. And then they lose. So it wasn't great. It was very tough. Unfortunately you know it's back to the drawing board. You know I honestly would rather lose right now especially as the Celtics instead of going to the Knicks and getting blown out and same with the Sabres. So the second round of possibly great. Started last night with the hockey fantastic and the basketball should be good too. NBA's got some sweet stuff happening here some handball stats when they were with the Pistons in 76ers overcoming 3 1 deficits in a series. This marks the first time in NBA history there were multiple 3 1 comebacks in a single playoff round. Then remember the parody was also being talked about with the underdogs winning and the favorites winning and the NBA seemingly predictable throughout the season because there's a lot of teams trying to be asked. A lot of teams walking out there saying let's be asked tonight. Hey top down all ass sub them out the wrong times. Sub them in at the wrong times. We're trying to lose much as we absolutely can. Now those teams are saying we're trying to rebuild this team. The only way we can rebuild is if we're asked enough that we can potentially win the lottery and get the number one overall pick and then we get the superstar maybe even in this upcoming draft class one two three four maybe all superstars. So we got to get up there in a lot of you so we got to be asked now. Well then there was teams trying to win. So then those teams are running into each other on a very regular basis because there's 82 games in an NBA season and sometimes there'll be 25 point spreads. Yep. Professional sport record middle of season record breaking point spreads in these games because this team is trying to be asked this team's really good. So we were worried maybe about the NBA playoffs. Is anybody tested or not. Seems like they've been delivering debug. I love what's been going on. How about the Pistons going down bad. Yeah. And then coming all the way back. Cade Cunningham basically putting a team on his shoulders had a lot of turnovers in the first three games or never they were losing to Orlando still had 25 points but he had a lot of turnovers. They just kind of shut the valve off and they go ahead and win that thing. The Stones I believe is what they're called in Detroit. Yeah. The Stones it is. Foxy made that up. I don't know what he made it up with. But there's some boots on the ground research with some Detroiters and it never hurt. That's not true. Foxy wouldn't lie to us. I'm now 39 years old. My daughter is now three years old. I had never heard storms before either before Foxy just dropped it like last week. And then he made me feel comfortable and confident that if I drop this they're going to think I'm white boy Rick. Maybe I'm supposed to be talking like Detroit. So I was going to say the Stones just kind of fit in up there because we got a little beef with Detroit a couple of people up there certainly over the years. So I was trying to fit in. Turns out it made me look like an asshole. Yeah. Me too. I remember Tim the tool man Taylor saying it on him. I hope. Yeah. It was like hey boys you want to go to the Stones game. No you talk about the rolling. Brad was like I love the Stones. Brad needed to stay away from the Stones. AJ's family is a real need to stay away everyone forgot we called him the Stones because it's been 18 years since we want to play off series until now because of Kate Cunningham JB Bickerstaff and all the boys. Let's go. Congratulations. Maybe we should turn that into an immediately a negative conversation because the Pistons have done something to have done a long time. But I like where the NBA is currently sitting. Lakers move on as well. Debate your thoughts on the NBA playoffs as they continue to cook. We'll talk to Danny Green here in a bit. Yeah I love every year I love the NBA playoffs and maybe we thought coming into this season this first round would have been terrible but to have three game sevens in the first round was incredible. And then the story lines coming out of this one on both sides. Obviously injuries injuries are always a part of when you get to this part of the season with the Sixers. Fembe is healthy and motivated and playing the way he played in that game seven like I know for me I've been kind of out on him sometimes it's like OK he shows up when he wants to obviously he's hurt a lot but you can't really control that but the way he played the way he got it out through this injury and kind of set the tone you clearly see no one can match up when and once he gets into paint obviously you can shoot I can I hate when he's shooting threes but him and then Maxie Maxie taking over and they playoffs you always kind of need that guard to take over and get get some buckets down the stretch he did that he you know put the lid on that series Vijay Ajko comes well Paul George when he's healthy so 76ers for me in that east is the team that I really got my eyes on and then on the west you know the story lines with LeBron it's always gonna start with LeBron and then OKC can they go back to back with the MVP the special season that they're having is it Wimby's year is it Wimby's time and then the next we know you know most of the country is waiting for them to fail and for it all blow up and we hear all the loud Nick fans say all this year next year the coach to this to that so I love the playoffs I love where we're at right now yeah we're with great eight teams playing all of them can obviously go in a run Oklahoma City doing it again would be very expected especially with how they've been playing but why not Wimby taking over something in the West he's have to get past Ant-Man and Timberwolves how is that man memory hyper it's like what if Shams join us hearing about 15 minutes for a drive-by sure sure we'll see just need a hot fire is he driving an RV or not a deep dive no he's doing just Fred Flintstone's car Josh Harder than Nick's actually spoke about Tyrese Maxey man you just spoke highly of Tyrese Maxey obviously the clearly the fastest human on any court anytime he's on basketball court Josh Hart was asked about how he plans on defending him he says he's gonna ask him just kind of slow down smart my help do you chill dude can we do a little bit of that I used to do that to partner Turner's it did work for a couple guys I think it's not a bad idea maybe just plant the seed I don't think you should say it publicly that you're gonna try to do it I think you should have done it naturally so he's gonna have to find another way to get that message but Maxey unbelievable how about Paul George yeah still do all George having a little bit of research and Joe happy birthday May 2nd he's a May 2nd birthday as well how shout to the rock and David Beckham cool birthday it's a good birthday yeah and I think the Queen rest in peace you know I think she was also a little Joe L. M. B. though he's got hey does he does like the wiggle when he does a little turn fade thing when he's playing it is unbelievable that's why I was pumped he chose America play for for the Olympics yeah because we knew we were going to eat him at some point mm-hmm what's that tone I talk to you don't like that he chose to be a part of the United States of America I do like that but like I mean he's played for other countries before so I just didn't understand how that works but yeah that's that's a me problem it's an IO baby I'm just not I'm just not culture enough yeah definitely okay let's move away from the NBA before we will revisit it shortly the NHL playoffs okay we've told everybody that has ears and within your shot of these lips the NHL playoffs are worthy of a watch okay these dudes are flying on blades that are this thin broken everything happening in their body you'll never hear about it dangling going crazy I mean just so many storylines legacies legends everything being created in real time in one death-defying feet of a sport which is hockey it is just outrageous what hockey is especially in the playoffs whenever these psychos who are they have a daredevil mentality all these hockey players these psychos are just like on a do or die every single 40 seconds of their life which is how long a shift it lasts they're just out there killing it rest in peace all the teams that didn't survive first round a lot of good teams in there a lot of great teams no not really no a lot of great teams banged up to what a lot of great teams there's a lot of upset sure for favorites moved on for dogs moved on in as far as series pricing in the first round of playoffs so you never know what's gonna happen so the NHL showing up in a big way heritage what they call you let's talk about the first game that we seen in the second round okay let's talk about avalanche wild being wild on the ice so many goals 14 different goal scores and if you don't like hockey you have to like excitement how about there being 15 goals let's go the wilded avalanche okay which became an immediate classic upon avalanche go some links unbelievable from linksy that's one nothing Colorado's considered the best team in hockey potentially best team of all time to nothing Jack Drury Drury let's go to continue in the first period hey dangles cook so sick saucy off the wall to himself watch his replay passes it off the wall off the pad sorry to himself let me go turn around bounce back boom like it in three nothing this team's gonna murder the Minnesota wild right yep this team's gonna absolutely saw three nothing I'm Minnesota wild that was a cute story yeah welcome to the show what in Minnesota well so you know why don't we all relax just for a second Marcus Johansson 3-1 now still in the first period let's go to Ryan Hartman grimy one underneath takes a huge shot 3-2 Quinn Hughes brother of Jackie Hughes the Hughes hockey dynasty family cooks sauces go time Hartman 3-2 Colorado avalanche as we continue here Nick Blankenberg over to sticks over the hill through the tunnel right the Blankenberg stick nasty 4-2 Colorado six goals still in a second 13 minutes left this is hockey all of a sudden scored a touchdown ladies and gentlemen terracenco off a skate hi hi hi hi named after Colorado avalanche great Peter Forsberg love the Forsberg goal right there in Colorado 4-3 Colorado let's keep it moving here Quinn Hughes get the goalie going back stops on a dime cuts back lefty sensation he's a defense boom Chad goal just like he had a game winner in a semi-final of the Olympics 4-3 4-4 now still in the second period we got eight goals going Marcus fall Leo he stops on a dime shorthand a goal and takes out the net immediately afterwards shorthand a goal you know with shorthand in a power play you normally see fast breaks Marcus says I got you and I'm gonna take out your net punk 5-4 still in the second Colorado was up 3-0 now they're behind by one what happens next well how about Devon Taze hi 5-5 10 goals still in the second period here still brewing Kale McCarre first of two this will look very familiar maybe a little deja vu here in a few nasum cadre 6-5 still we play defense 14 minutes left no defense no defense at all who cares 7-5 still in the third 4-0 3 left Queen use what a nasty backhand dump in there Matt Zuccarello goal 7-6 now it's 13 that's a touchdown two touchdowns one missed extra point third period 257 left Kale McCarre once again from the same exact spot shoot hi hi hi yeah McCarre one of the goats they'll say now what's the score oh 8-6 14 goals in the second round of the playoffs let's send one in from behind our own blue line Nathan McKinnon gets one on the empty net 15 goals 14 different goals the overhit the overhit in the Avalanche win in insane game one against the Minnesota Wild and second round of the NHL playoffs if every game's gonna be like that let's go let's have one Chubby hey let's have one goalie is not seeing shit no offense not doing nothing electrifying are they changing the rules so that we doofuses can fall in love with the offense and the excitement like the NFL did I certainly hope so this reminds me of like growing up and tuning in to McGuire yeah her bombs just going yard two or three times per game so yeah maybe just keep the goalie standing on their feet and not their heads away from the NHL and it's electrifying second round of the playoffs which started with the Avalanche in the wild let's go to the NFL which is always a buzzing ladies and gentlemen joining us now from a commercial shoot Adam Schefter what's going on hey how are you doing man thank you so much for taking time out of your busy day what do you got going on you look great in that suit thank you Pat I appreciate that we are here doing a masters of the universe commercial here in Bristol Connecticut okay how many lines do you have so far exactly to my capacity zero zero so far are you just on your phone I've mastered them yeah you're you just on your phone in the back or what are you doing I am wielding a 25-pound sword to try to save the day and so far I think I've succeeded so far okay let's see if you can succeed in your job here which you've obviously crushed at the pick it in was phenomenal where you might dump the entire night and have you watched the clips back and kind of relived what the draft was and how crazy all of it went well I know that you know the funny part about that was someone had mentioned to me that I might be doing it I'm like okay yeah no problem like we'll figure out what we can do and the next thing I know and if the film shows up the day before and like here we're gonna wire you up and you'll be wired for two straight days and we'll be following you in the in your little potter I might well I like we never went over any of this and it just kind of dropped on me at the last moment nobody nobody called to say this is what's happening and you know it's a little embarrassing I get very intense during these times like that kind of comes through but they NFL films does such a great job with these shows and it's a real look behind the scenes a glimpse behind the curtain at what goes in to these trades these picks the choices that each team has I started to watch it last night honestly was captivated and then my family and I got diverted by some dog issues and we will get back to it tonight or tomorrow well I'm sorry to hear that about your dog issues obviously you understand how that all goes from our side so positive vibes there back to the pick is in us watching it it was interesting because first we realized oh shifter was mic'd up that entire time we were talking to him back stage fascinating I think a lot of the boys were trying to recalculate every convo they had I hope they had you on camera when you walked directly into the puddle whenever George Pickens was intending to sign with the franchise tag with cowboys which he's I gotta say that I gotta say that was it that was shortly after I found out or at least was of the mind that there was a real possibility that night that the Rams were gonna take time since and I got a call literally right before that and so I was in my own element and I stepped right into that puddle as I'm standing with you and as there are more free man Marcus free yeah AJ was there right exactly and so like I was in my own universe not a master of my universe that moment and just that's right into the puddle as I was processing the Thai Simpson information and how it was gonna play out that night I think you're a mastering universe in your own way yes completely locked in oblivious to everything happening around you we appreciate you wielding the 25 pound sword for us today and that commercial shoot that you're doing for the masters of the universe let's talk about the stories of today in the NFL AJ Brown total bunch of kids I love you hey listen I don't care what you hear just now I love you okay and just know that that's case at his youth camp this past weekend first of all love that AJ Brown does a youth camp in Philadelphia love that he does that obviously everybody is presented with the opportunity to do as such the NFL has a great support system to be able to put these camps on for you agencies have put on camps for people so just doing it and putting the effort into doing it is something in of itself that should warrant a little bit of a celebration to give back to the next generation and to the community so I appreciate AJ Brown doing this camp because anybody can the fact that he does is sick now let's get to what he say hey that sounds a little bit like that it sounds a little bit like a breakups potentially guys yeah there's gonna be some I don't care what they say all right I love you don't you worry about uncle AJ coach AJ always love you they're gonna say I said bad things about the city I it's not you is that what that is or how should we view this as he tells these youth campers that he appreciates everything well I think he knows where his future is headed at this moment and it'll be a matter of the Patriots and the Eagles getting together to basically process the trade finalize the trade make sure it happens but again there's nothing that has transpired here despite all the events in the women that has deterred this trade from coming off I still think it is on track I still think it's going to happen I still think it will involve a future one likely at 2028 first round draft that I still think all these elements are in place and I still think that once we get to June that these two sides will get together and complete a trade that'll send AJ Brown to the New England Patriots now again this morning I was watching ESPN Sports Center early and they had a piece where they were doing their features on I scored a touchdown Super Bowl and I saw that they had AJ Brown on this one they were featuring his touchdown and the Super Bowl he says hi I'm AJ Brown filled up the Eagles and I thought to myself they may have to edit that in about a month here coming up here where that's what I think but we'll see how it all plays out I like that you can't enjoy content you have to correct it I appreciate that I have a similar issue but I do like the fact that he they have it on tape you know and he has a great history with the Eagles I mean they did a great things together hey that was great trade by the Eagles for him from the Titan what a title okay that was that was obviously worked out very well for both sides if it is over in June as if you have basically guaranteed and confirmed hell of a run can't wait to see him in New England New England people need something to bring him up beat a little lot of whoa whoa whoa right now you gotta wait till at least June 1st it's something's coming around to Ben let's talk about some other quick stories here as you have an out in your to save the world soon go ahead Tony yes chef now that the draft has cleared teams are starting to look at the free agents that were left over in Joku is visiting the Chargers Juan Jennings last week was visiting the Vikings there's others out there both us to find digs there's a lot of big names left with those ones the first ones in Joku and Juan Jennings they'd let him out of the building so does that mean he's not going to Minnesota what's the update on the latest big name free agents you know those are some compelling names and some players that could help some rosters and we're past the compensatory draft big period so now these players can sound with these teams and teams don't have to worry about how it will impact their future compensatory draft big so I would imagine you'll see some of these guys fall into place here as you mentioned and Joke will visit the Chargers we had Juan Jennings kicking off with the Vikings last week it these guys have waited for their number and the number in May is not going to be as attractive as they would like that that's the issue so at what point do we get to a spot where the players say okay I'm willing to live with what they're offering I'm comfortable enough with what's on the table to accept an offer to move forward and I think that's the process that all these players some big name players who could provide some real production are now going through and and all these guys will get jobs by and large I think before training camp but he'll come in drips and drabs is the way I would imagine it a couple drips and drabs let's talk about some drips and drabs quickly as you have about 30 seconds go ahead con man yeah shat a very serious situation with sores be in granted you know a lot of things have to happen but let's say that he is cleared and you know he is able to enter the supplemental draft do you think a lot of NFL teams would be interested in and sores be did you get a read especially around draft time like hey there were already teams looking forward to him being in the draft next year and well how do you see that situation playing out if he is you know all the legal things are kind of done with kind of like you asked that question before I had to go save the universe because to me this is a really compelling storyline here that's going to play out here in the next few weeks if his eligibility is not restored and I don't know that it will be there's a real possibility that he will then try to enter the supplemental draft and the last time I think a player has been picked in the NFL supplemental draft was in 2019 so it's been a while since there's been a player who's picked and I do think that if he gets into the supplemental draft and the league agrees to have a supplemental draft all questions that would have to be answered here in the coming weeks I think that we would get a team that uses a high pick a high pick a Brendan sores be now I don't know whether that's going to be a first round traffic interestingly enough the New York Jets have three first round draft picks but the way I understand it is if you're going to give up one of your ones that that could be the highest pick and so I don't know that anybody in a draft that has this many quarterbacks next year is going to be willing to give up its one that'll be a question but I absolutely think that once we get past round one if nobody did it there put in for him I think we could absolutely see round two somebody put in for a sores be at that point and that would not surprise me by the way I wouldn't be Florida if he went in the first round either like there are a lot of people that think he is a real talent a bona fide prospect and I think this is going to be one of the great storylines that plays out here over the next couple of months does he have his eligibility restored does he enter the supplemental draft if he's in the supplemental draft where is he going because I think it's going to be fairly high and what's the deadline again for the declaration his agent was told by the league that it was June 30th the league has told me there's no deadline I think that it's such a rare circumstance that nobody really has the actual answer they're still sorting through it but I would think here in the next five six weeks he'll know and really that question will be answered he hired Jeffrey Kessler the northern attorney if he can get his eligibility restored not even a question or an issue but if he can't and he's going to try to enter the supplemental draft we have to see the league's going to have the supplemental draft I don't know the deadline is the issue but they'll figure out a way to get it worked out deadline is certainly a thought if the NCAA is involved because they don't move that quick if he was to with Jeffrey Kessler who repped Jordan I believe whenever he took on NASCAR in his monopoly thing that was happening before the season I believe he's been apart of Bounty Gate I believe he's been apart Jeffrey Kessler has experience in these waters I do believe so hopefully he's able to expedite the entire process we'd like to let Swar's be know though that if he gets a fresh opportunity to go to the NFL and this all this other stuff kind of just stops if that's the case not a bad idea there either but hey do you do your thing and we hope you get all the help that you need going forward source because you're a hell of a talent we don't need you wasting it we need you on the field for at least 15 20 years that's how we feel about it look at the last case that Jeffrey Kessler just one look at the last case he just won the streaming movies case that was him sure he this guy he's the man kind of gets it that's what chef he's saying well now there's literally millions of dollars at stake here for stores be college or in the NFL you're the man go save the universe ladies and gentlemen that's Adam Schefter chef you've taken time fascinating though because if he says he's no longer doing the NCAA college then the NCAA investigation would stop right yeah unless they have to do what's called worth but he couldn't even come back so they wouldn't have to do yeah the show hard hardball yeah yeah cuz hardball just watch shut it down you can't get my phone and I'm going to Los Angeles yeah okay well you can't coach in the NCAA for 10 more years yeah we didn't really hear anything else after it's like stores be could be the first player to be like what's that the NFL saying they I could today's today it is interesting for a team like the jets like chef to recycle that has three first rounds they're like yes we'll do a first we'll do a supplement able to give it away at one of our first for the 2027 draft not the first one maybe the third of the of our ones yeah can you designate your second first or your third first whenever you do it I'd assume it's all negotiable I think you know hopefully he's getting the help and got the help that he needed in that he's not going to be addicted to this which it seems like he potentially is became part of his daily habit from what we learned and heard and saw we don't know anything about all of the details well we just know the vague stuff that's been out there hopefully gets to help and if he gets another shot to kind of reset his entire life and it is the league congratulations man I hope you take them make the most of it joining us now ladies and gentlemen is senior NBA insider Shamsheranya Shamshera we took a little bit there to kind of clear up the stores be stuff as we wrapped it up because he could potentially just walk out on an NCAA investigation it feels like but whatever ends up happening we know that we don't know we hope that the right thing is happening for stores be the human now let's move to the NBA you guys are already firing coaches huh or let the magic take the number one overall seed pistons to seven and also we say let's get this coach the hell out of here is just a standard operating procedure immediately after a loss you move on from your coach if that's the decision you're going to make and how many of these coaches should we see moving on probably this is just the start I think of different coaches that are being under evaluation based on playoff outcomes and this magic team they went out and got Desmond Bain last offseason and they had expectations that contend in the Eastern Conference and then this year they losing the first round for the third straight year they were hovering around 500 different points Jamal Mosley had a lot of good that happened two division titles went to the went to went to the playoffs three consecutive years for the first time since 2011 in Orlando and listen he's going to get another shot in the NBA he's going to get another look but this is a team that had accumulated a ton of expectation on this team Jeff Welkman the president who we just saw right there he actually got extended during the season right before the NBA Cup Final Four so he's going to lead the coaching search for the next head coach of the Orlando Magic but around Paulo Bankero Frans Wagner Jalen Suggs Desmond Bain this has this team has aspirations to contend the problem is especially those three guys Suggs Bankero and Wagner have played about 20% of their games the last two to three years together and that is going to be an issue whether it's for Jamal Mosley or the next head coach Wagner getting hurt against the Pistons was a big part of the storyline of the Pistons coming back a lot of people are saying maybe Dusty may gets poached out of Michigan down to Orlando Tibido potentially a name being involved in how do these coaching searches normally go is are we going to hear all the names that we potentially just think are available we're still very early on this on this process anyone that knows anything about Orlando they're going to keep things you know very buttoned up in terms of this is now the start of the process they're they fired Jamal Mosley there was a point that I heard over the last few weeks that even though a lot of people on the NBA expected this outcome if the magic were to lose in the first round no real names had surfaced or there was not that back channel conversation that took place but now Jeff Waltman and the magic will be going through their search I listen there's going to be a ton of names that get thrown around I particularly don't see Dusty may I think he has a good thing going at Michigan I would expect probably this search to focus on guys with with experience at the head coaching position guys that have had a level of success in the playoffs taken teams deep because that's really if you're trying to compete and contend that's really what you're looking for okay let's go to the medical tent got debuts absolutely some franchise players some health updates on Ant-Man Joel Embiid and Luca Dantres potentially coming back yeah Anthony Edwards just insane an absolute Wolverine today's nine days to the day he had a bone bruise hyper extension in his left knee and I'm told today he is pushing the Timberwolves their medical staff he wants to play tonight he has made it clear to the Timberwolves the Timberwolves internally didn't expect him to really be a viable candidate to play in a game until game three or game four when the series shifts back to Minnesota this upcoming weekend but Anthony Edwards got to work out in on Saturday he got in a couple you know at least one workout on his own as well privately he worked out on Sunday with the team he has not gone through a full practice today he participated in the significant he did most everything at shoot around today drills with the first team and so he hasn't gotten the full clearance from the team's medical staff but Anthony Edwards right now as of this moment is pushing the team and he wants to play tonight in game one as this series starts in San Antonio nine days yeah to the to the exact date he had this this gruesome looking injury yeah and his knee it was disgusting I didn't even want to show it on this show I said no we're not showing it because how disgusting it was I don't know how he didn't tear shit break shit I don't know how none of that happened absolutely phenomenal athlete and what a stud if he's able to make his way back okay let's talk about some of the other guys that he mentioned there Joelle M. Bede talk about him he's his resurgence back into my life has been fun because they're recirculating all the hits from Joelle M. Bede both as a Twitter star and he was one of the greatest tweeters in the history of Twitter and obviously as he's grown older I think he's kind of fallen out of just demoralizing and ruining people online I think he's more so focused on other stuff but Tyrese Max he's unbelievable Paul George is having a second coming it feels like the Sixers are real as Joelle M. Bede going to be able to maintain down the stretch and are the Sixers a true threat in the eyes of everybody else left for sure right you have to be especially the way Joelle M. Bede is playing and what's crazy is you're seeing him adapt his game he's changed his game he was known as this brute force scorer but he's spending time three point line he's playmaking just for him to be on the court him at 70 80% of what Joelle M. Bede is known for is better than most players I mean even you know period they're 100% so Joelle M. Bede is it seems to be healthy he's listed probable to play tonight in game one so the expectation obviously is that he plays but the run that Philadelphia was on and I just think about everything Joelle M. Bede has been through throughout his playoff career he's dealt with ligament damages in his knee he's dealt with ligament damages in his fingers and thumbs he's dealt with Bell's palsy on his face he's dealt with orbital fractures he has had every injury you can possibly imagine on the human body all around the playoff time some some of them he's got it out some of them he's not been able to get out and this year even in that game in game seven he looked like he hyperextended his knee multiple times and he played through it he came back just two weeks after an appendectomy just for him to play obviously for them that gives them a chance yeah hell yeah I can't wait to watch it we've been trusting the process long time long time over there gotta go mental though I'm gonna go mental excited to see it kind of get to the mountain top now let's talk about the Lakers they got to take on obviously the mountain right now Luca gonna be back this series where our expectations on John Chick playing basketball yeah look Luca don't teach all expectations he's gonna be out to start the series my understanding as of yesterday he hadn't done full-fledged contact work full-fledged like really you know un-unabated running like he's he hasn't gone full-fledged yet when it comes to that and so obviously you have to be able to run fully do some contact workouts one-on-one two-on-two whatever in order to be able to play in games I know one-on-one two-on-two yeah that's what I'm saying we don't have enough time in the calendar I don't think if he's not doing any if he's not doing that shit if he's not doing I wanna play the ant ant I'm not you know ants is is doing these full hard workouts individual workouts yeah it's playing in the game basketball you know to be able to run and play I think I think even if even if individual you're able to run with no limitations I think maybe then you're just like hey I'm playing I don't I don't care what you say okay we know look as a dog we know look as a dog too we know we'll have a beer immediately out we know I will also say that hamstring is a little bit different than you know a twisted knee per se like if you're dealing with a bone bruise hyper extension some things are pain tolerance if I hamstring if you're not able to pull push off your leg with a soft tissue injury that can also be different yeah I mean hammy's hammy's just the side to they kind of pick and choose when you're coming back when you're not yeah and if you're just not far enough back and you decide to go the hamstring will punish you it'll say yeah actually we're gonna continue to do this which is always the fear can't live in your fears but you do have to make decision for yourself and your team we appreciate you joining us shams you're the man appreciate you guys thank you is you honest getting traded or ask me next time ask me that we're not there yet suspended is Jaylen Brown gonna be in trouble because he's streaming saying these refs are ass they got an agenda against me I was I do I do I do expect to leak to look into this situation I do it's love yeah tell me to subscribe some sense of that you tell the NBA to look into it and subscribe we appreciate them doing that ladies and gentlemen that's a show I'm sure I know bring the bell NBA yeah so at least gifts and subs you're a league geez got to have enough he did just kind of hop right on there yeah it was a big time just shut up you like it what are you talking about like yeah I'm giving a week maybe like to just go right new home try to figure it out jeez Louise chair was a little low I think Tyler likes to speak the right little ha yeah yeah he always got speed up kind of does it we got the things ladies gentlemen let's continue with the NBA conversation with a man who is one of four players to win a title with three different teams disperse the Raptors the Lakers he was a second round that out of North Carolina and NCAA champion ladies and gentlemen a one-time all defense team which we like yes we do Bob would yeah yeah he's probably he's done it in the camera until so many times the best ever ladies and gentlemen Danny green hey guys how you guys doing is this wood look familiar to you huh this is a Cameron oh yeah yeah I had some good nights in Cameron I was fortunate enough to have a good team I had a good team yeah absolutely you're a poor echo team Danny thank you for joining us and we don't feel as if you're gonna die at any second you know last time when you were joining us my anxiety our anxiety through the roof we know you're a talented driver we know you understand awareness and everything like that but at any moment if somebody was hi we would have felt terrible so thank you for rescheduling here for us I appreciate you guys making work making it work for me yeah no problem at all okay let's talk a little bit about Anthony Edwards here Shoms just told us that he is doing everything in his power to play just nine days after a hyper extension of his knee that caused a bone bruise whenever you see a player like Anthony Edwards his dog mentality is like the only way I can kind of describe it what do you think that means to his team and what do you think this means the science if he's able to recover this quickly Danny I think it means more to his team than to science you know like I said I heard you guys talking about the Luca thing and him I said is not as serious of a tendon issue it's more of a bruise and how much pain he can endure so I mean I think it means the world to his team like his team knows that he's not leaving him out there you know we've seen other cases where guys have had some injuries where people might question it and they're like you know where's he at why is he not on the bench or why is he not working out with the team you know he's actually being around the group and wanting to try to give it a go and we know how much of a difference it makes for that group when he's on the floor his numbers against the Spurs this year I think pretty astronomical compared to the rest of the season or against other teams so it would make a big difference in the series if he can play we can't even if he does play and is 100% healthy I don't know I'd still probably give the edge to the Spurs but he definitely could make he could change that narrative you want to tell you do you have to say that you feel obligated yeah no I don't not at all you don't because it's three teams you're one of four players in history to win with three different teams do you feel obligations to represent for each team individually no I mean I try to be not biased again when I was talking to Toronto Cleveland series I play for both those teams and I'm probably more tied to Toronto than I am Cleveland and I said Cleveland winning in seven games so yeah I'm not tied I don't feel like I need to say that yeah I'm just studying the game there's proof no big deal spite is incredible to watch every time it comes playoff time I think to myself man maybe I should watch Cavaliers games during the regular season and then I immediately remember there's no way I'd be able to do that ever I kind of get bummed out about but he is a special player fun to watch dog mentality you talk about it he has it obviously in bunches I appreciate the fact that tonight on NBC we have two bangers Sixers at Knicks at eight o'clock and then 930 Wolves at Spurs that's gonna be a late one but obviously the Wemby Anthony Edwards show will be worth it let's talk about the Sixers and Knicks Sixers just knock out the Boston Celtics in such a beautiful fashion you know the Sixers are coming the Sixers are coming one of my land two of my seed and he will be playing he's Joel Embiid now what are the chances here that the Sixers are able to continue to go here and is this the Knicks best path to continue to move forward to try to win a championship yeah I think this is their best go but it's not gonna be easy one this is a tough one it all depends on how healthy Joel is he was pretty banged up in the series of Boston and got even more banged up toward the end of that series you know he took a shot to the knee ankle like couple people landed on him obviously he's kind of on the floor a lot so that doesn't help and Tyrese Max he's been playing on a high level Paul George another guy that's kind of reemerged himself and look like a younger PG so those guys have been playing well VJ Edgecomb has been hooping some but it's really gonna rely on how healthy you know Joel is matching up with Carl Anthony Towns and Mitchell Robinson like those two guys have really dictated a series because of how they control the boards and rebounds and then you know it's gonna be a challenge for their wings but if Joel is healthy they have a pretty good shot they went to seven games two years ago you know the same kind group that shows you how powerful that Joe all is and Tyrese Max he are as a duo I I would love to see the Sixers go just for the Philadelphia fans yeah because this team has been hyped for what 10 years now process right hasn't been they've made a lot of moves in and out to try to hype it up even more Paul George going over there was a massive ordeal now it's just like Paul George is on Joel and Tyrese Max he's team which is a crazy even thought and all because Paul George can rattle off what 15 straight oh yeah he really gets going in the middle of it good for Philly good for the Sixers fan good for Embiid too you know seriously they definitely needed Embiid's been embattled you know and beating the Celtics is obviously special let's go to the West here with obviously a potential dynasty in the making go ahead D-boy yeah obviously this Lakers Thunder series it always starts with LeBron you beat him in the finals you won the finals with him what is it about him on this level and then what makes okc so great so great of a team and then how do you see this series going which makes okc so great I mean they have they have great defense but it's it starts with their the collective chemistry like off the court on the court they actually enjoy playing together you know they've been together for a couple years you don't see that often in the NBA like we're now even in college because NIL the teams that went far in a tournament the teams that had juniors and seniors that been together three or four years like this group has been together for a couple years now they have some experience they have championship DNA they have a leader in Shea one of the best players in the world if not the best player in the world and only thing that Lakers have a chance because Jaylin Williams is out but Bron he always gives you a chance and now you have Austin Rees back and they're also playing together as a collective that's the reason why everybody counted them out against Houston but that's the reason why they beat Houston because guys like Marcus Smart Luke Conard stepping up and toward the end of the season that last month they really came together and bonded defensively offensively and they're used to playing without guys because all year long they've had Austin out Luke out and Bron out so they they know what it what it's like what it takes and who needs to step up when one of those guys goes down so it's gonna be a fun series still give the edge okay see see I'm not biased I'm a Laker but I'm gonna give the edge okay see and I think this probably goes you know I like to see go six games six games okay like okay see in six I watched that Oklahoma City team do what they did last year kind of start this entire crazy pace and then we ran into Caruso at one of the college game days and I was like how are you guys doing he's like yeah we've lost like two games or something like that like what they this Oklahoma City team just been dominant right from jump Danny is it is it a clear head and shoulders difference between them and every other team throughout the season and everything or do they have some faults that maybe the Braun James to be able to figure out they are vulnerable they were heading shoulders start season they started off like 24 and one but since then you know there's another team that they're not playing right now out West that kind of had their number but they shown some vulnerability but toward the end of season Shay has just been on a tear even without J Dubb and I think that's where so they have injuries they've been guys in that a lineup so that's where they show some vulnerability and I guess they weren't afraid at shooting from perimeter so we'll see it you know obviously the game is about makes it misses and who's gonna shoot well from perimeter but defensively I think that's where the difference is and that's why okay Oklahoma City is favored to win the championship that's right Danny in the past you know three four years that's right Danny absolutely as you cut out there I finished your thoughts I think you said something differently than I said but we both kind of got to the same place at the same time LeBron James fun facts same age as both head coaches in this series same ages and dags so shout out to LeBron another head coach on the floor you know that's kind of how it's always been chatted about I love that the NBA is crushing I love that the ratings are all the way up into the right now I also like that there's some drama brew and Danny former player obviously multiple-time champion now one of the talking heads of sport can't wait to get your thoughts on all this go ahead con man yeah Danny he's talking about Jalen Brown going live on Twitch as a Celtics fan I appreciate the access you get and then at a certain time it's like hey when you say your favorite season of basketball was the season that you played without Jason Tatum that kind of rubbed some fans the wrong way myself included he did mention in there kind of talking about how you know the NBA has a flopping problem like Joe LMB'd flops he know he flops but at the same time he also knows it's gonna help them win and you know basically help his team the same conversation goes on with SGA who we're just talking about you know kind of knowing your spots and just knowing how the game is called what is kind of your entire take about the whole entire kind of flopping thing I know a couple years back they tried to change it where kind of the landing zone where if it wasn't an unnatural shooting motion and you did that then it wasn't actually a foul that kind of seems to have dwindled to the back and that is getting called again how do you think they fix it and can they fix it I think they can fix it well first I want to say I think Jalen Brown had an unbelievable season and I don't think he met meant his favorite season was without Jason Tatum I think it was as a collective they had a great season as a group and adding him at the end of the year he said it twice Danny is his feelings he's a lot to feel how he feels so am I they showed a lot of character and he has the best season and this was a team that had no expectations before the beginning of season and they changed that narrative and those expectations throughout the season because of how well they played but he's right he's not wrong I just think the timing was wrong like great message great messenger wrong timing like right after game seven you know you probably waited a little bit of time but there is a flopping issue and that and as a defensive person like I'm more biased toward the defense I would like to see the defense have more you know abilities allowed to play it you know and be more physical only certain teams certain players are allowed to but there's a way to cut out the foul baiting and a great players will adjust they'll still be great they'll still find ways to score and still gets their free the line but there is a flop and problem and they can change it they emphasize you know the beginning of season the flopping where they call technicals they haven't done that in a long time so there is a way to change it the referees have to referee the game differently and I mean we'll see if that ever happens but there is a flopping issue in our league and it kind of think deteriorates the product when you have to see so many free throws throughout the game when you're just trying to watch the flow of the game but it's definitely doable some you can change and I don't think he's wrong James Harden was back on his bullshit yesterday it was awesome yep it was great to see it's like if Bob Ross was to come back from heaven and start painting again you would you would have to watch it James Harden had a classic from half court guy accidentally puts his hand out shoot three shoots three free throws gets to 18 points okay his fourth quarter it's like he's definitely getting a 20 everybody on the court should have known that he gets right past half court two guys on him he literally bounces off a guy dives out of bounds spears the coach into the crowd oh yeah it's the time it gets two more we're 20 four it was spectacular to watch I think he's the first one I think of whenever I go back to like being able to get it baiting yeah he was so good at I mean it was yeah and then he was he's he's a master class he was one of the first guys to kind of know how to manipulate the game a little bit but I would say he was a guy that got hit quite a bit they stopped calling it for him but there was other guys like Trey young that knew how to stop jump backwards they changed rules for certain guys you know Jalen Brunson's in there SGA is in there even Luca Yolkic Joel and be like there's a lot of guys in and the stars they could say about every MVP that's one MVP because they got a lot of free throws and they would argument was you can't touch him it's a skill to know how to draw fouls but also be that good where guys can't stop you and have to value a lot of times but James is one of the originators and that's how he was one of the best scores in this game 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Sports are the greatest and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. Thanks to you. We have no idea why you watch but we appreciate that you do the fact that you spend time with us just kind of baffling but we are eternally grateful for it. Hopefully you'll continue to do as such as we continue to bullshit about everything happening in the wonderful sports world. The toxic table is here but looks a little bit different at Boston Conner sitting next to toxic town. Ty Schmidt celebrating life we appreciate you. Ty. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is your sweet hoodie. Sir thank you. Someone sent in to the Thunderdome a few months back around Veterans Day so thank you. Shout out to you. Yeah. Shout out to your dad as well. Shout out to your family. Shout out to the vets. Shout out to everybody that sends something to the Thunderdome and just know that's about 10% hit rate on whether or not it's in a 10% for a reason. Boom. For a reason. Oh yeah. But not everything makes it through. Obviously we have gates outside so whenever delivery shows up it doesn't make it pass gate then it goes into a purgatory world that we don't know where it is. Some things get in some things are not really boxed that well so they kind of just blend in with everything else and they never get seen. Some things have incredible boxes. For instance Kenny would send me a sign that I did that. Can't wait to unwrap that. That's a organization. Yeah another sign. Another. I don't know if you saw a slew of polos. Love that. Yeah I got steel curtain polo. The ones we didn't pick up. What? They just sent them in the mail. I like that. I'm assuming whatever you got looks just like that thing. By the way. What's that? I mean you see it right there right now. Bottom left on the screen. It's fantastic. Double down. Maybe you sent the bigger one. Made it impossible to get out of the box. I loved it. Yeah I loved everything about it. Unboxing these things is certainly a problem and if we do get if we do get just a little bit it's like whenever you're golfing and a ball goes into the rough and it disappears. We've all seen it here right. I'm done looking for it. It's all in this area. I'll drop it here okay. If it's hard to find we're moving on. Oh yeah. The box is tough to open. We move on. Toss it. Well you got a package of things with care. No I understand but I don't need 50. Well. Wraps a tape around that thing. Okay both sides triple sides. Don't need that. Maybe it's a it's a glass Faber J. Kenny would sign. You know what you're right. Thank you so much. Now we see it. It's yellow wood right there. It's still wrapped up because all the tape. I'm not just talking about the incredible sign. I'm talking about everything that comes in here. We're very grateful for it but just know that it is hit or miss on whether or not it makes its way into us and whether or not we see it. But if you send it in we appreciate you. If you watch I appreciate that and that hoodie is awesome. Thank you to your dad and to all veterans out there joining us now is an awe a man who has led a franchise in tackling. Mm hmm. For how many years though. I just early was doing it back in or forever. Since him how long has he been leading it for probably seven eight years 10 years. Probably 2015 when you're 2014. He's been retired. Yeah. And you probably got it before he. So every 20 or 12 14 15 years. This guy's been the all time leading tackler for the Green Bips for 15 years. Easily. Wow. Yeah. Isn't that crazy. Yeah. And the next closest the guy who's kind of chasing down. He's out with the Raiders. So it looks like there's going to be another restart the clock. Yeah. Restart it. Oh a man who's going to be the all time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers for at least two more generations. A college football national champion Super Champion Ratter Cup winner ladies and gentlemen. A. J. Hawks. Yeah. Oh good haircut today on A. J. Hawks. How are you pal. I'm doing great. How are you guys doing. All right. Life is good over here. You know daughter's birthday. Happy birthday to Mackenzie. I appreciate everybody's well wishes and being kind to me over the weekend. All the happy birthday wishes. I got A. J. it was good for my soul to see the nice things. You know. Usually I hate these things. They get really uncomfortable. People are saying really nice stuff to me. I need it. You know life had been life and pretty good there for a bit. And people are super kind. So I'm very grateful for that. Birthdays are nice man. You know perspective is normally something that can only come from a devastating situation. I thought about this this morning more so than maybe ever. Especially with Mackenzie's third birthday. Normally perspective comes from like bad things. Man Mackenzie's third birthday is an incredible thing. Great perspective coming from that. My birthday. Great perspective coming from that. It's like anytime you can get a reset on how life is kind of being viewed by you. I view it as a good thing. And this weekend was special this morning was awesome celebrating with her and yeah life is good. A. J. sports are awesome too. We got our final eight in the NBA and in the NHL. The MLB is continuing to absolutely crush it. The NFL has drama all the time. Life is good. Age how are you over there. I'm doing great. Obviously it is weird getting older. You're right. It gives you perspective on certain things. And I think the good thing is you start to not worry about the dumb garbage stuff that you tend to worry about when you're a younger person maybe. So that's a good thing. I think age will bring you at times especially having kids too. You realize like all right man like we got we're okay. My kids are fine. We're okay. I had a full conversation about whether or not I wanted to continue to be petty in my 40th trip now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not there. I'm still I decided with who yourself or I mean you got to be you. You got to be you. Yeah. But perspective you know that would be something that I could get rid of. You know evolution. I could get I could get rid of it. But I said it deserves to at least see 40. Sure. You know it deserves to at least make it. Bring it with over the hill with you. Exactly. And then maybe we put it out. You know because then we'll move on. But it was a nice little hey what do I want to continue to care because this would be my 40th right right now I'm doing it. This is my 40th. Yeah. Because you're zero for the 40th trip. Because when you turn 39 you've completed your 39th trip right. Because you don't turn one until you've gone 365 years. So like this is currently my 40th trip I believe around the sun. So it's like how do I want this one to go. I had a full conversation with myself for this first time out loud. Was it out loud. A couple of them made their way to my ears. You know normally it was inside and I'd do this and I'd catch myself late going yeah but why would I do that. And who am I talking to right myself. OK let's go ahead and move on. Maybe we stop that. Maybe we don't do that for the 40s. But yeah it was cool. It was cool to see what I want to continue to do. And I do believe Mackenzie is the main changer and driver of basically everything in that. You know it's cool. Yeah. She's all that. That is how it works. You're right. And she's getting at the age too. Or yeah it's getting super fun. You got another one on the way that and you know you already heavily involved in sports. I heard you talking about her soccer young soccer career already early in the show. That's right. 2030 she's going to be her 2040. She's going to be the youngest ever I think in the World Cup. And then we need her. We need her. She's ready. She's right in the women's national team for soccer has been so good for so long. She understands that it's an elite bunch and she's going to work for it. She understands she's going to understand she's got to work for it. She's got a lot of energy which I like. Huge. She loves people which I do like. And I think she's naturally kicking the ball lefty which is good because we got a little some messy tape to show her. Yeah we got some. There go. He is isn't he. Oh yeah. He's continuing to just carry that team down there entire franchise. What a genius David Beckham is. He's got an invest in this entire thing. And it's starting a little bit in our new stadium but he made an appearance at the Miami. Can't we speak after a big loss. That's all I heard about. Well I'm messing. He's dodging accountability. No no no no. With the loss per se. He sent the youngsters out there for him. They sent. They do the same thing every game. Messy never talk. Why doesn't he talk. Doesn't have to. He can't be held accountable. He doesn't like talking. He just likes kicking. The CR7 doesn't exist anymore. Yeah we'll see. Yeah you see CR7 in the Saudi League yesterday. Watch some highlights dude. Nobody watches that Saudi League. Nobody watches either league. Does it matter. Actually sold out every Miami game was a 76,000 at the last game. Hey the stadium looks awesome. Have you seen it. It's all pink. No I haven't seen it Pat. He just scored. I think he just scored. I'm just kidding. Was it one of the nights I was at the bar. It was on one of the TV. The stadium looks thick. That's the first time that I've seen. I guess Columbus built a stadium and everything and I assume there's a big highlight of that. We know the Pittsburgh Riverhounds. Of course. Have an incredible stadium down there by the river. Adding on. It's obviously filled up. But that Miami one looked big. You said 76,000 people were in MLS strictly MLS stadium. No that was in an away game. This one's not that big. They played at a massive stadium. I forget who it was again. There was a few weeks ago. Maybe Dallas is 76,000. I got a bad feeling. I thought they were doing 76,000 a night down there. That'd be cool. It's too much way too much. Yeah that's dream land. They might get there. How was the F1 down there in Miami. I heard it was a dream come true. Phenomenal. Messi made his presence fail. He showed up in a few different garages, but the most probably pictures or content you saw was from the Mercedes garage because young Kimmy Antonelli has won his third race in a row. Name has a name. A Italian man. Mercedes won all four races this year. He won the last three. First driver ever to convert his first three poles into three victories. So it sounds like it's pretty easy. A 19 year old just coming in there and just winning this thing. What's his name? What's the Pizon's name? I mean sometimes you have a Wimby or a LeBron or Luca come along and just dominate early. He dominated on every level. They spent them up, put them up in the top car and last year was his rookie year. In this season he's been dominating. Got a great car as well. Yeah well great car obviously helps. 19 year old winning is good for the future, but we want to talk about what's happening now. I saw you posting about it. Max Van Verstappen is uh is he no longer a crown getter for you? This guy's a loser now. Max Van Verstappen is a loser. He doesn't like the car this year. Max he doesn't like the car. I mean Max is kind of always a potter. He's always potting. That's why you like him. Max Van Verstappen? He's not a pot. He's dominating. They expected some shitty conditions. He was starting at P2 so I'm like all right it's going to be rain. It's going to be some shit. Is that the second place? Yeah place two is what they call it. Decision to pull. Did he finish in second then I was done? No he finished. I want to say maybe six or seven. He went on a very risky strategy. Did work out. Van Ver Sloppy did nothing. What was that to you bud? Van Ver Sloppy. Van Ver sliding down the shoots and ladders quickly. It sounds like so this guy goes backwards instead of forwards and races now. Maybe we don't bet on him. How about it? Maybe we just maybe quit on a leak. Where's the goal now? Maybe quit on a whole story. Lewis Sir Lewis. He's getting married allegedly. He's caught up. What you going to put his boots back on and get behind the wheel? He's still driving for Ferrari. They're up there. Mercedes Dominate right now. How's Cadillac there? Clarence Ferrari. Yeah how's our guys doing? It's Cadillac's first year look. Okay. We're ass. They're struggling. You stand down there right above that. They've been around for a long time. They both got zero. How? It's tough to get points man. The top to top is 180 and zero. You can't just walk in and get points. It's the penalty rule. It's saying Cadillac has zero. So how many opportunities have they had to get points? Four races. You got to get up in the top 10 to get a point. Oh we're ass. So they're both just well they're facility. Cadillac. The facility's not even done yet. I don't expect how I don't know how they're supposed to win their facility. Don't have a facility. Okay let's not mock anything that's happening with Cadillac. We assume they will go from Cadillac back to Cadillac at some point because that is what Cadillac especially American made cars in team. How long does it last? Do? Do I dream? With who? With us? I don't even know. Is it still going? I'll tell you what. Cadillac not too shabby. Yeah. First purchase was Cadillac Escalade. The day I was drafted. I did not know that the money was not going to come for a few months. I almost got that thing repowed but I'll tell you what we were rolling weren't we Nick? That first day with Cadillac Escalade playing I'm So Paid by Acorn. Never forget it. Those were the good old days. Those were the good old days just flying around living living absolutely. Cadillac the good old days. Yeah I think that is certainly the case but also if I need to run something over or pull something. Yeah now we're talking. Especially out here in Indiana with some of these roads. I'm driving my Ram truck 2500 heavy duty. Have you ever heard that thing? The Rebel? Yeah. Rebel Ram. You're talking about whenever you hit that gas pedal all you hear is a ram ram ram The diesel? That's right. No. Yeah. Yeah it is. You can go ball. Sure. You sure? Huh? You sure? Yeah man I'm pretty certain about it. I mean that's just kind of. It turns on with both. Don't look at the screen. That is kind of what I do okay. You're pulling things a lot with that? You said you could pull things? Oh so many things. And push. I'll hook them right up to the uh I got a ball uh two balls hanging from the uh tail. Yeah you do. Yeah tail pop. Yeah. Yeah two of them down there. No I don't know what your truck's talking about. I know what mine's talking about. Okay let's talk about some things happening around the NFL. Malik Willis the new face of the Miami Dolphins was invited to go throw the opening pitch. You know a little ceremony. Welcome to the city. Let us show you some support. He walked right out there on a mound and I'll tell you what. Hey this is how these dolphins careers going to go. The only thing they're going to be celebrating is that 1972 Dolphins team for the rest of my entire lives. If you know what I'm saying. Um certainly a fascinating throw. I appreciate the fact that he wore a glove out there onto the mound. I assume he warmed up and lathered up. We know that stadium is electrifying so maybe he was just a little bit juiced up to put on a show. Hey Jay your first immediate thoughts whenever you see Malik kind of airmail won to start his Miami career. I'm actually very happy to see this. Yeah I think the number one thing is you just don't want to bounce it in. Sometimes it's hard if you're now used to pitching off a mound. You fall down like that and it brings your arm down and boom that thing bounces to the plate. So absolutely I think he was aiming to try to hit the backstop behind the catcher. Yeah I think there is a chance he was trying to put on a little bit of a show showcase how strong his arm is. Dee but I know you saw this as a member of the Dolpham the fins up community. What was your first thoughts whenever you saw this Miami Dolphins quarterback not be able to complete a throwing catch. If I would have saw this a couple months ago before we start thundermalding in here and I realized how hard it is to find the strikes on maybe maybe had a different feeling but I saw this and I saw you throw it in the chat and tried to mock my quarterback so obviously I went and did some research scoured the internet and said hey great quarterbacks shitty first pitch and a lot came up including the baby gold Patrick Mahomes. What. I saw him struggle as well and this guy played baseball he was on USA juniors I believe he got drafted if I'm not mistaken. His pops was obviously a big league pitchers for a long time so Patrick Mahomes doing this and run off right up a couple super balls I think Malik will this be just fine. Okay so you're saying an ipso facto if Pavlov's dogs throw it over catcher become baby goat. Yep over to it's important that it's over high like like AJ says he's aggressive. Let's see you're behind the plate though. Yeah well it's Patrick Mahomes senior obviously Patrick Mahomes the second junior. Yeah I think he is junior. I thought he was I think he is. I think on his. It's got the second up here on his. Okay the second Patrick Mahomes the second who would obviously then request the internet to find another first pitch that he has done in the past where he threw an absolute inside strike nibbling on the edge a little bit there you know Patrick Mahomes will go into success. I appreciate the fact that he uh we put a we had a Brett Feitz was on last week and I said it feels like the first time Patrick Mahomes kind of overlooked right. Kind of feel like that. Yeah it really does. Not talking about it at all. Nobody really thinks much of the Chiefs. The big conversation about the Chiefs is that Travis Kelsey is coming back. It's not like a Chiefs are going to win a Super Bowl. No. Nobody's like saying Chiefs are Super Bowl bound right now. A lot of people are saying the AFC is actually brand new let alone the AFC West which has a lot of big time names out there and for me it's just like Patrick Mahomes getting a chance to build another chip on his shoulder after he's already been a made man already put together a Hall of Fame career and if we know anything from listening to Tom Brady speak whenever he retired Drew Brees speak whenever he retired Peyton Manning whenever he uh wrapped up it's like they are collecting everything yes whenever they are trying to find their motivation to continue to go and it feels like the absence of anything being said about Patrick Mahomes could certainly be a motivator for a man who's healing way ahead of schedule they're saying AJ Och. Yeah I think this is great and Andy Reed has to love this where they are in the offseason especially heading to camp because whenever you're riding high and things are going great coaches that's when they are the most nervous like hey I gotta derecruit these guys I gotta I gotta get on these guys every single day and make sure that they're staying with it and they're staying locked in I think now like a lot of the work is done for you because of all the yeah your season didn't go very well but it's it's amazing how quickly people I guess forget their greatness so I think yeah I'm looking for big things from from Pat Mahomes and this whole team to be clear whenever they were winning and they were playing good during their dynasty run they would win in ass fashions yeah yeah I tell you it wouldn't be like a massive blowout they were notorious non-covers they lost me so much money just the chiefs are still the chiefs I would just get into a microphone are the chiefs still uh in Kansas yeah do the chiefs still have uh Andy Reed uh yeah do they still have but yeah then the chiefs are still the chiefs I would take them every single week and they would lose me money every single week because they never covered but they're covering and the spread was always on what we thought of the chiefs which was a team that would always win which they would they would inevitably win there'd be some third down in the fourth quarter where Pat Mahomes had hit Travis Kelsey there'd be some miraculous play that would take place they were must watch Mahomes in and of himself is must watch but they would very rarely like blow people out so that obviously led to people especially if you're winning all the time saying all the football gods are blessing these guys they're just getting lucky they're actually not that good and then once they do have a season where they are ass and he gets hurt everybody comes out and said the signs were there the signs were there that they were never really that good and that's not what the chiefs get a chance to kind of work off of yeah I think a lot of it is a lot of the you're not here in chiefs talk I don't hear any anti-patrick Mahomes talk though like it's always oh yeah the old lines thinks he's been their leading rusher whatever the past few years they haven't been able to run the ball at all the weapons when Rishi Rice is is not in there are not great Travis is getting old blah blah blah so it's not like I don't think it's an anti-patrick thing it's just a anti like hey he just he just hasn't been the Superman the last couple years that he has been the years before being able to carry a team that may have flaws okay let's go from Patrick Mahomes and can't see a chiefs not getting talked about enough to something else that got talked about a lot and it should you see Peyton Manning shot gun and beers up there with Josh Hybel you see Joey Agar up there chugging our shotgun some beer the luke ohms now luke ohms notorious great shotgunner of beer yep he inhales that thing puts it down I mean he sucks that beer out of the bottom of that hole now shotgun is obviously a science experiment to get a beer out of a can quicker yeah you got you got an intact hole you got an outlet hole you got some gravity working with you and also air pressure kind of working for you should that beer can shotgun literally out of that can into your gullet luke ohms notoriously good shotgun taker of beer has actually done it so often and so well that some people say this guy's got to have gimmick cans oh he's got to have no beer inside of there that actually leads to him throwing cans at people say hey won't you go ahead and come on and dance if you want to Peyton Manning loves a nice cold beer we know that yes he does he loves a nice cold beer he won a head and chugged one Hybel we assume he can delete some beers yeah we watch him in front of 100,000 plus with luke ohms dude just as such aggias up there doing his thing it's like I love what these musicians are doing with these college tours because a lot of these college stadiums I assume aren't necessarily built for a world class show taking over the entire place now granite kneeling stadium here is outrageously nice it is beautiful it is upgraded it's 114 I think 113 thousand I forget 108 whatever it is thousand people but I like this happening in a showcase of the college sports communities coming together we obviously have seen them over the past couple weeks we hope that will continue Zach brine did michigan 114,000 people or something like that it's unbelievable what's going on and I like the boys chugging beers and having a good time out there AJ yeah it's great but I mean can we get someone to walk out with Morgan wallin in Vegas what's going on man he's so upset who the five people that bailed on this guy I don't know and why would you you know I it had to be a scheduled thing but yeah or a magician trick went wrong I was lucky I was potentially and maybe somebody was there was just invisible yeah yeah maybe you didn't even know maybe somebody got bored there you got some flaky ass people in this town I do love that I like that he called it out too anytime that takes place Vegas I'd like to let Morgan though though hey the solo dolo walk out I think it's pretty good too also please I was very lucky to be a part of one of the first ones alongside Tyrese Halliburton that's a good time man I mean that is good watching him kind of go through his process before the concert like coach Saban did it down there in Tuscaloosa with Morgan just a few weeks back I'll be excited to get coach Saban's thoughts on Morgan's pre-show kind of routine because there is exercise workout uh group like there is like uh I believe a routine because he's sprinting that stadium basically throughout his show as he continues to go there so yeah it's cool man it's an incredible thing he's in Indianapolis this weekend oh yeah wait to see who comes out what's that Lucas oil yeah he's a Lucas oil so a lot of couple times guys sells out everywhere yeah Luke Combs selling out 100,000 tickets are not cheap there it is yeah this is the early days of this thing I think I'm not sure how many there were that was fun dude he's hey Tyrese Swift I don't think anybody's ever tripped but there's been somebody that's got to hit with something right didn't something happen I don't know it's an incredible you know it's classic wrestling but also it's a great way to fill time he also uh him and Theo Vaughn I think for his most recent tour puts together an entire sketch basically about turning on the stage I think he's really smart because how do you keep people so entertained uh that are in the top rows whenever you're just by yourself you know this is like a professional wrestling question like how do you entertain everybody in the top whenever you're a ring down here in the middle so the entire spectacle is a rather big piece of the puzzle and also like kind of moving around the way these musicians have been able to captivate stadiums very very fascinating because the the the sophistication of their shows I believe if you were to look at them over the last 10 years has really evolved you know with everything they're trying to do I mean we want to tailor Swift on a luke sole stadium that entire thing was insane you were a part of the show you know like how do you kind of make the show you got to be like a part of immersive right it's like an immersive situation like almost like the sphere but not the sphere exactly like you kind of have to treat it that way especially with how big these stadiums are it's like I think they've done a great job the luke one he did a great job because it's it's right in the middle of the football field and it's a circle stage and the stage spins the entire time so the entire crowd gets to see him the whole time it's not like you're in one end zone so everyone in this end zone is super far away being in the middle like it was like there wasn't like a bad seat in the house type thing it was a dane cook that started the circle stage first I remember comedians in the arenas or whatever because he was so big it was like that into what it is now with chappelle and shane and like everybody does it and how they operate it is uh it's a wonderful thing watching people kind of do their job and uh morgan fills the place up oh yeah I mean he feels and he could play for four hours a lot of songs just one album how long is the album oh 10 hours how many songs do you have 30 number ones on this one song it's like on this one album it's like this guy's outrageous this weekend should be a great time tonight second round that a playoffs continues to brew sixers at nicks eight o'clock on peacock and NBC timberwolves spurs 930 on NBC and peacock I'm excited to see how the boys do out here I'm excited to see who shows up I'm excited to see when be continued to uh you know try to dominate a league in which he's supposed to be the next chosen one is his time now or is he still a year or two out we shall see if he can get past the second round it'll be interesting to see because in the first round we talked about before the first round started we're because we talked about the regular season and how it was kind of lopsided we said it well normally the playoffs is great but the first round sometimes not so great that was not the case uh dogs were 24 and 30 straight up so yes favorites won the first round the playoffs but dogs being that close they were plus 18 units if you just took the dogs in every single game so we'll see if that continues yes the spurs are huge huge favorites that's probably because of the injuries but jam said aunt's trying to go tonight so we'll see what happens in that situation the it has gone from 13 and a half to 11 and a half with the speculation that aunt may play tonight so we'll see there and then the sixers being that big of a dog is is kind of interesting after they just knocked out the best team uh in the east them being seven and a half point favorites or dogs the nix is an interesting one to watch tonight as well do you like that line conman i like all the underdog lines i hate especially right now that they even have 13 and a half up for the spurs of fan man is going to play for the t-wills this is this timing is what really grinds my gears okay normally i get it okay you start one at seven you start the other at 930 there's no overlap if we're getting overlap like we are here i want to watch wembie i want to watch every single overlap there's a huge overlap here it's eight o'clock at 9 30 it could be seven like it should be seven in 9 30 if we're going off are we right is the graphic right i am 90 percent sure yes yes yes and this can't happen one's big mbc or what uh no they're both peak peacock is weird because youtube tv has some of the games that are mbc it doesn't make any sense but they shouldn't have this and if they do have it then just run them at the same time like how many times is one of the playoff games especially in basketball a 20 point blowout and then the other one ends up being a real tight game down to the last couple minutes you know how the last couple minutes are it ends up being a 10 point game either way but wembie is so fun to watch to put him at 9 30 it's just a disservice to the east coast of the united states of america and i am sick of it because i do want to watch the whole thing i mean it happened last night with wild avalanche that game start that game starts at 9 it's over before midnight that's perfect that is like we can we can handle that what's the legate to start at 8 30 but can deal with it being at 9 that 9 30 you would think a half hour makes no difference it makes a oh the second half it's over makes a difference half time comes that's a lot of downtime yeah and by then it's 11 i'll tell you i start doing one of these laying on the bed and then we're starting to wake up it's the end of the third yeah where are we at it's the playoff oh it's the end of the fourth oh my god this really matters right now i miss so much oh what time is it oh 30 what the why is this yeah that's how it is and they have no reason to put that game at night like sure i get it central time whatever that whatever the hell you want to argue we want to make with time it's an illusion either way they just need to have that's right the timings of the games make some that's right sense for time is an illusion let's expand upon that shall we let's explore that space what do you think that means i would love to know what is what does anything mean actually oh no now we're getting even deeper in here deep it's a fair statement because i'll tell you what since covid i feel like my concept of time is completely what do you mean true i don't know like three months it just feels completely different than i didn't tell you 2018 okay so my daughter is 1095 days old okay that is such an interesting timeline that has taken place you're saying post covid it has really changed how you view ever oh yeah when was the draft two years ago so i'm saying especially with the the run the run the week i've been on like yeah exactly i was made a year ago 50 cent tony ayo he wished me happy birthday tony tony good guy i was so pumped up about that i was like i need young me to find out about this the idea that time is an illusion stems from modern physics particularly einstein's relativity which suggests the universe is a 4d block where past present and future exist simultaneously shut up time doesn't flow fundamentally rather our consciousness creates the perception of a linear progression while physics shows events simply correlate making the now subjective wow wow i wish einstein was here so i could say what dude now is right now we're all here bro he actually didn't die that long ago i was can i was really shocked when i watched that movie what oppenheimer oppenheimer really shocked me that i'm signed was still involved can we just put this person at 8 30 30 that's all about sun zoo see that's what we're gonna talk about rest in peace yeah black and white photos only of albert einstein those could have certainly been portraits you could have got me uh him popping up in oppenheimer by the water what's he doing here that looks like i'm sorry maybe it might have been cool as dad watching that movie that surely looks like einstein right there doesn't it yeah it was did he time travel here did everybody look like einstein back then why is this why they call him albert oh that's actually einstein it's crazy holy shit yeah mr steve and he was really disappointed in oppenheimer einstein yeah so you don't think they offered me this type of thing yeah jeez einstein i didn't know i think he was scared for him and he knew that e definitely would mc's i was a big part of it and certainly was think about the big brains in the past oh my god were they viewed like that back then when they were alive though so that's what i wanted yeah i i mean as like now you just hear einstein you think like oh super g a lot of everybody thinking that back then a lot of it was secret too right like a lot of the things were classified well and it does well for the bomb does only his banger survived though like everything else you know like as we look back on musicians we only remember their heat we don't remember the drops that were absolutely terrible like do we only know einstein for his hits and did he have a bunch of misses in real time yeah he originally thought he was just mc idiot yeah and then he had to come out and everybody's like i hate this guy yeah i hate this i'm sick of this math guy i'm sorry i'm sick of tired of it or do you think he was loved the entire time i feel like math like with the musician comparison musicians release a bunch i feel like math especially math guys like i'm like i think his whole life was damn your three things oh you think e equals mc squared took up a lot of time you think he kind of disappeared into the world big math and then he came back with i have a new one you think that's how it works and it takes like five years so like it's five years of doing one and then it's probably a year of like i need to did he send smoke up like a pope you know like hey shit einstein's got another one maybe it's more like a del they're speaking to musicians yeah you're right this bangers only a few years and just boom and maybe smoke too because i think she actually did somehow she's been a good adult yeah i'm starting to do the big 10 minute naps he never slept for like hours at a time he did the nap thing i got algod into listening to a sleep expert okay uh are you a whoop band um how do you know what's good for everybody i guess and this entire thing he said what he tells people who don't have a lot of time uh chug a coffee take a 25 minute nap wake up you're back to life right after your coffee you chug the coffee turn yourself off warm yeah put your sleep nice and warm yeah well he said i sit down actually nick rose nick rose been doing this for a decade but how do you just turn the lights off on yourself i almost want to comment underneath like okay chug the coffee and then do i just tell myself to go to sleep right now like that's always been my argument we would be out day drinking and nick would come we'd take a break and he'd chug a coffee and say like all right i'm gonna take 25 minute nap i'm like how does that happen so it's actually called a nap a chino uh it acts as a high efficiency power up where caffeine kicks in just as you wake from a 20 minute nap reducing groggyness in maximizing alertness i'll tell you what i'll take two nap a chinos tomorrow and i'll take a couple of nap a chinos the next day do you know somebody who maybe uh took a nap a chino or two and the process of building a goliath in the sports and entertainment world a man who had a vision for a gimmick baseball team when i assume a lot of people were not believers yeah just had thoughts of something that's become a 102 103 thousand ticket seller down in texas on a regular basis ladies and gentlemen the founder of the savannah bananas who just had a massive weekend at texas a nm 100 some thousand tickets on gimmick baseball unbelievable it is truly preposterous yes it is what has been uh accomplished ladies and gentlemen yellow talks jesse jesse kohl what's up guys okay so can you please tell me um how you go from if the story is right i i tried to google as much information as i possibly could so i'm kind of uh being held hostage by whatever they decide to show me about your story but i did read in debt over a million bucks 1.7 million you sell your house you and your wife sleep it on a mattress on a floor basically with your visions of what this could all be how many years ago was that and do you have the visions at that point of selling out texas a nm 100 and some thousand tickets for a gimmick baseball like how big did your dream and believe in where you're at now how can you describe it well at first our goal was just to make baseball fun we were a college summer baseball team when we started so and we only sold you know two tickets in our first three months so that's when we had to sell our house empty out our savings account sleeping on an airbed but yeah we believe we can make the game fun more entertainment more excitement and make the game faster and so yeah we i mean we started the bananas we had a male cheerleading team the man anas the dad bod cheerleading squad the banana nana senior citizen dance team but more than the players were all in on celebrating dancing and having fun and after a few years we're you know we're selling out games but fans were still leaving games early and that's when we said we have to change the rules and create a new game and back in 2020 we played our first ever banana ball game you know with a two hour time limit you win the end you get a point no bunting because bunting sucks if you bunch of thrown out of the game fans catching foul balls for an out we've added all these new rules and just took it on the road with a bigger dream then but went from one city world tour to now playing in front of 3.4 million fans this year and 102 thousand on saturday cheese congratulations on it all obviously having the fortitude to continue to go forward whenever everything is seemingly against you and to believe in yourself is obviously a great story for future generations to listen to and experience so you're a content driven company would you describe yourself how do you describe you are you a live event company are you a content driven company and who do you find our most interested because I think you and the dude perfect crossover seems like a perfect demo match and also a massive home run not only in Texas A&M but probably anywhere you go right that's very similar markets yeah we're a live entertainment company we obsess over the fan experience so fans start showing up at two o'clock for a seven o'clock game there were 40 000 people in the plaza four hours before the game so we do a show from two o'clock the fans are out there meeting fans at two o'clock live show in front live show afterwards we stay signed to the last fan we are obsessed but yeah it's really the sport of banana ball you know people have compared us to the globetrotters but the sport of banana ball is what we're most proud of there are six teams competing to go to the banana ball championship and it's unbelievably competitive I mean we had 23 trick plays on saturday night six home runs they're trying to compete and win every show but we're also trying to put on you know a lot of entertainment non-stop the texas tailgaters ran into it who are the reese who's the football stadium home run king I'll have you know I think I don't know if you saw the other day I caught one of your guys's games on ESPN too congratulations on getting your shit licensed on ESPN for even bigger appeal not just digitally but also linear reach I mean you're doing fantastic yeah we will follow along and watch your next business move as you continue to go all in in this particular sphere by the way so I appreciate you doing what you're doing there but football stadiums how do you pick and choose where you're headed because Texas A&M Kyle Field obviously historic legendary place for college ball fills up for you do you feel like you fill up anywhere or like what what are the best places for savannah because you came here Indianapolis filled up immediately I think you sold out three times if you needed to are you everywhere right now or how do you kind of view where you're selling these places yeah we're in 45 states 75 stadiums every single team has sold out we have 4.2 million people on the wait list and yeah with football stadiums you know we started with Clemson last year and the first college and stadium and sold 81,000 tickets in the environment with Davos Sweeney and CJ Spiller coming back and just the atmosphere was electric like we got to do these college football stadiums then you know also by the NFL we did the Superdome and Drew Brees came in and just there's these great moments that we can create in a competitive environment so yeah we've heard from numerous stadiums over 100,000 we still got we got neil and stadium university at Tennessee in three weeks there's gonna be 101,000 that's completely sold out Boise state for the party animals headliner and the blue field that's gonna be a lot of fun university Oregon so just you mix these worlds college football is known for the atmosphere pat you know this better than anyone but now you put in our show with non-stop music and performances plus trick plays backflip catches it's a great marriage and we're having fun at these college football stadiums it's a beautiful thing obviously if people are getting introduced to sports in this manner we love it if they're just enjoying sports in this manner we love it I appreciate the fact that you went out there and did it now in your business story there's probably a climax moment or two go ahead debug just you're talking about filling stadiums you know 100,000 plus now when was the moment if you can go back a little bit when you really knew like okay we we've arrived when was that moment what was the venue kind of what was the year well if you knew knew me and our organization we've never arrived you know we're just getting started and that's the mindset and I believe that we're gonna take this all over the world people think it's just a circus just to show these guys can play and do things that people have never done before in a baseball field so I still haven't felt that but for me growing up south of Boston always a dream to play at Fenway Park play professionally we went to Fenway Park and sold that out and watched the whole stadium turn yellow that was pretty special but now you know every night as big as this game was guys we did a pop-up game on Thursday in front of only a thousand fans and we didn't tell anybody we went to a high school and surprised fans and created moments people never seen like I love creating those fans first moments that people have never experienced that's where this all comes into play where can we play decks you never know I'm excited to be on a beach I'm excited for your I'm excited for your promotional brain to continue to do absurd things I just want to let you know that I am excited to see what you come up with brother there's a few of them in history big-time promoters obviously you are a promoter that is what you are with baseball being kind of your venue and how you do this you're you're hitting on all cylinders man we got still sky home run yeah uh daisy duke picture with cowboy boots obviously awesome the ninja umpire the dancing all this shit and I don't know uh I don't know what your brainstorming room is like I don't know when or how you come about uh getting your ideas or whatever but that in of itself is probably its own show that I would like to watch brother I'd like to see your process and coming up with all this shit and then how you think it's going to go over versus how it actually goes over and adjusting on the fly and all of it I really respect what you got going on thank you my question for you is I mean again we're always trying to do things that have never happened before in sports where do you think we should play where would be somewhere crazy or something wild or something we should do that would shock people that's good that's a good one the moon the moon yes that's what we've talked about for a few years that's going to take a few years what else okay so I mean time square would be cool time square would be sick you can run it out we learned that they don't care about the mentions which is cool like obviously these football fields that mentions our Lucas oil stadium would show up for you big time that's you out if you do look central park new york city yes that's that would be sweet yeah so we're thinking of large patches of grass I just saw Shakira did two million on a beach so you mentioned the beach that'd be the beach yeah well it'd be tough for the banana boys though to run on the sand yeah you know especially the boot scooter you know he's going to be in a little bit of trouble out there we'd send the coconuts that's our that's our newest team the coconuts they'd be all over the beach how many teams you got total six we got six teams yeah no league the anvil championship league go clowns yeah the Indianapolis clowns obviously coming in a big way how do you feel about the cosmic baseball that's happening as well hey anything that can make the game fun man we're supportive of it I mean we're just trying to bring more people out and you know they're doing a great job and I think we all win and it's an abundance mindset and the more people that are bringing out kids and families to have fun that's a win man love it as baseball continues to go and your league continues to produce great baseball it only works if there's good baseball players go ahead Tom yeah Jesse you talked about how good the the players actually are one of the cool stories earlier in the season Tristan Peters used to play for the Savannah bananas is now playing on the white socks he's hitting like 284 for the white socks so like I think a lot of people think that it's like not actually talented baseball players but they they are right they're some of the best baseball players in the world correct well yeah look at Jackie Bradley Jr world series champion all-star full-time player with the clowns he hit for the cycle the other night we got guys you know first round picks second round picks they can play and now they're just learning how to do unbelievable trick plays and performances and putting it together and that's why man it's so great you know we created this a bunch of us but I get to sit back and and be a fan and watch things every night and just be like I can't believe that just happened and that's what's exciting about it nothing surprises I mean we get surprised every single night and that's what's crazy live events obviously AJ has the last question for you here Jesse yeah Jesse I'm curious like when you're acquiring new talent I guess first off what's the process like trying to find guys that are very talented baseball players but also like entertainers and big personalities and do you set expectations when they sign because I'm thinking like hey we have a pop-up show on Thursday I thought I'm just here playing Kyle Field I don't want to go over here play a game for a thousand people how do you deal with those kind of things no well we're fortunate when you join us you know what it's about it's about fans first you know the reason we're here the reason we get to play in front of record breaking crowds is because we put the fans first and we're the first one signing autographs and meeting them and we're on all the time but yeah it was hard at first guys no one wanted to play for us I mean it was impossible but now you know we have thousands of guys thousands of players and that are reaching out and it's it's amazing to see because they know they have to be fans first they know we have to perform but I mean we're getting like Derek Kleina Broadway one of the best Broadway performers ever he played college ball at UCLA back with Garrett Cole Trevor Bauer and so now he's bringing that world together so when you can mix the worlds of entertainment and sports together man it's fun to watch I'm trying to start I'm trying to start being accurate with throwing yeah I'm trying yeah we're ready for you an indie man you put on a show I well yeah I would like the show to be one that doesn't look ass you know we saw Tino yeah Tino Martinez that was awesome that's not good I want that that was cool saw Russell Wilson get gunned out after a guy goes in between the legs these guys are throwing 93 miles an hour 94 miles an hour it's not easy that's what I'm saying I need to practice every breeze got screwed too yeah backflip was that the backflip catch which one was the backflip catch we don't need that who did that up yeah yeah they'll make you look bad with the trick play that's pretty that's pretty yeah they'll moss the shit out that's what they do everybody you know you could you get a little people uh older than what maybe your demo is because I assume your demo is what it is right we all see what it is and then their parents and they love it I think these people really enjoy their lives whenever they're watching uh savannah banana baseball and everything like that so you got some people that are like I hate it it's corny or whatever it's like I'm baseball this is bad for baseball it's like all right go out there you got a picture out there actually oh yeah they're actually cooking while also doing a fool yeah and then stepping on a mound and 100% 88 or whatever it's like how these guys unbelievable baseball I didn't know there was this much talent in the baseball world I enjoy what you're doing I appreciate what you're doing and uh keep trail blazing brother can't wait to watch what you do next I appreciate you guys ladies and gentlemen it's jessie cool yeah they're gonna do docs and classes about him oh yeah oh yeah anybody that does the whole mattress gimmick one point some million in debt belief crazy two tickets he has that we sold two tickets the first season we're there it's like that that's part of the whole story it's like seven bucks production yeah I want to see that dog what's that that that documentary seven bucks as well though that's crazy yeah you know seven bucks all the storyline two tickets is another one fans first seven bucks throw up yeah only it's seven dollars seven bucks in mona baby that's right we're gonna have a goat joining us here in a matter of moments I believe there is some technical difficulties happening behind the scenes there that tends to happen thank you ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a olympic gold medalist an 18 time LPGA champion a three-time major winner fresh off a back-to-backs ladies and gentlemen Nellie Corda how are you how are you thank you for joining us anytime we get a chance to chitchat with goats of their sport which you certainly are on the trajectory of being and you can be humble and modest if you want to but we will speak the truth for you we are lucky and thankful to do so especially coming off of back to back's how we feel we're swinging well right now hey we're hitting the ball well right now Nellie is that where we're feeling my whoop says I'm in the red so I'm feeling great today oh celebration okay we got after it a little bit I did just end in Mexico so I may have had a shot of tequila and a margarita why why maybe maybe a little corona yeah I read your answer where I believe it was reported that you were the only top 10 player that was in Mexico fresh off of a major the chevron championship which was your third major win a week before and you said something about like the resort's beautiful the food is amazing the course wonderful my fiance and I just came down here lived our life you win that tournament okay so let's talk about you winning a major one week and then you enjoying life winning are you now you're obviously a stone cold killer in this entire thing but do you feel as if you're playing your best golf right now and what is it about your game that you can feel is really on whenever you're playing your best honestly I just feel like I'm living my best life I think that correlates to maybe my on course play you know it's it is funny like going from a major to a tournament the next week like Mexico I think was the best transition because Monday I sat by the pool oh yeah coconut like it was I was literally living my best life but I had to like remind myself on Tuesday I'm like I'm here to work I need to get my butt into gear but I think I'm just kind of like I've said it many times I'm like I'm living my best life like I'm having so much fun on the golf course but I think it came because last year was a really hard year for me I didn't win at all I came off of a year that I won seven times and I think I'm just maturing and like realizing that I need to really enjoy these moments that it's not going to last forever so in a way that so many legends have told me to smell the roses and this week I actually have time to smell the roses okay well congratulations on getting that point in your mind I know that's a freeing feeling I would assume especially for the top of the top whenever it comes to competitive spirit you talked about having a bad season following having a good season you said yeah living your life and enjoying it is a big piece of the recovery I assume you're beating yourself down pretty good last year and how do you kind of work your way out of that actually because we talked to Michaela Schifrin who had a bad olympics bouncing back on the other side obviously every NFL guy has had a terrible season had to bounce back for you what was it like going through that journey and is this the first time because all we've known of you is like being dominant is this like the first time that you really had to kind of journey through those waters of maybe doubt or change or anything like that definitely not I mean every season has a different story you know I won my first major in 2021 I won the Olympics that year and then I didn't really have I didn't really back it up until 2024 again so I always have I think it's always just a roller coaster sports I mean they humble you in every possible way and for me what's important I feel like a lot of athletes what I've seen is that they try to reinvent the wheel like they try and do something different they try to change everything just because it's not working and I stayed with the same people on my team I have the same caddy I have the same physio like no matter what happened like the same people were riding it out with me and that like gave me a sense of comfort that okay I can definitely get through this like we're all in this together and that no matter what like I've seen so many athletes bounce back and just it doesn't mean that I can't do it like I can do it as well so I think I just was more of like trying to have a mindset change where it's like I get into a situation that I'm like okay I'm screwed here where back in the past I'd be like oh god here we go again like I'm in a divot I left myself the worst possible spot and now I'm like I'll figure it out like it's not the end it's not the end of the world I'm not just gonna pick up my stuff and walk off the golf course like I'll figure it out I'll move on and my dad always said growing up he's like just play golf like you find the ball you hit it again you find the ball you hit it again things are nice whenever it's simple you know it would be nice to have your swing your swing is unbelievable we obviously having you on the program today has forced us all to learn more about you which we should have done years ago we'd like to let you know that you turn pro at 17 27 now life is a pro for basically a majority of your you know adult life now at this point it's like you're a legend but what we did quickly learn is all the slow-mo shots of your swing outrageous okay I have a daughter Mackenzie she turned three today she's turned three happy birthday I will tell her you said that she will look up to you Nellie hopefully we will have a golf swing that we can potentially work on when did you start and are you ever changing your swing are we have you had the same swing your whole life oh my gosh if you guys look at my swing from like 2013 you would be like oh that is that is so gross I have I give like a big shout out to my coach David Wheelan like he is the one that built my swing like and also my dad and my parents like they spent so many hours with me just working on tempo like that is the one thing that they ingrained in my brain and my dad always referred to as like coca cola coca cola so that was like the key yes it was super simple but it was like the key to having a very fluid but there's been so many times I mean like I see all the smallest of pieces in my swing like I see it if it's laid off or if I'm a little bent over or if I'm a little too tall but I always revert back to the same tendencies I think so many golfers athletes will tell you especially because golf is so technical that you always revert back to your old tendencies and like right now what I'm working on I think the biggest thing that I changed from last year actually is I have higher shoes so I'm trying to actually get closer to the ground with my chest and with that being I actually get a little bit deeper in my swing and I hinge it a little faster so it's just it's literally like the smallest of things but yeah I mean golfers are crazy I'm crazy just to leave and I think you have to be I'll tell you what I'm crazy and my swing is what we like to classify as ass you know so I'm trying to learn anything I possibly can all I know I was uh invited down to the master's first time ever it was beautiful there was an event where there was a golf coach at it from Iowa and he put me through a couple drills he was gonna make me a scratch golfer and every drill was basically look like Nelly looks that's what I realized from here put your head on brick wall don't move it okay don't move your brick wall let's go ahead forward lean in that entire thing good load up on your back foot you should be able to lift your left foot but you shouldn't do that obviously get in your slot go ahead turn that like you have the perfect swing that's what I'll let you know that that is uh that's fantastic it'd be really cool to have that for my daughter and what I'm hearing you say is you always go back to your tendencies her first time learning she's got we gotta get a good yeah we gotta get a good dog we gotta get a good coach in there we gotta get Coca-Cola Coca-Cola yeah exactly Coca-Cola I mean you've had a couple of weeks to work on it since the master's like let what's your swing update is it working it was like where's the club he's still come out of the pocket Nelly I want to let you know I have not played a single time since uh but if I was to get out there I think I'm getting that thing in I want to do this Nelly nobody wants me to do it I want to go here here here right today that's what I want to do we'll get it right in there yeah I mean there have there has been players I've paused at the top I mean you look at your hoblin he's like had like a pause at the top Cam young Cam young is he good I don't know he stops that thing right here yeah he doesn't put it directly in front of his forehead before he takes it back well it doesn't matter how I get there at the point that's what I'm sorry there you get kind of does though that's kind of what she's saying it does swing your swing swing your swing like boom I happen Nelly and I'm a I need a new one I need to build a brand new boom so as long as I get there I think that's all that really matters because I'm gonna be honest Nelly I don't think I'm ever gonna get your swing I don't think that's ever gonna happen hopefully I have been working on it since I was two years old so two I thought it was late oh my god we gotta get her to work ASAP speaking of I need to be a better dad go ahead debug speaking of you started to this research saw both your parents are professional tennis players I know your sister's a golfer as well how did you get the golf and not tennis especially starting at early um I was actually really that annoying little sister that wanted to do everything big sister yeah just like I think I just fell in love with it because it was a sport that all of us could do together you know tennis is just so one-on-one and I think with golf also people may not realize it but it doesn't matter how good or bad you are like you guys can all go on the golf course and share the range together go out on the golf go out on the golf course and play around and it doesn't matter like you know how many programs I've played and they've been like oh this is my first time holding a club and I'm like well this is great let's have a date and I don't know I just I think I correlate the two like family time and golf and that's like one of the things that drove my love for the game early on and then I love competing like I love going head to head but my brother which by the way he's a huge fan of your guys's show he was so pumped up going on shut up he's his player and he played hockey growing up he thought golf was just so boring and then now he um is a professional tennis player yeah thanks for leaving him out the but got like a program shot to support a family we continue with a go sorry bro yeah please do love you dude we continue digitally a sports center picks up here on ESPN that's Nellie Cordo we appreciate you all goodbye okay we're still live Nellie great wave good touch good touch at the end there that was good touch that's very I didn't mean to leave Sebastian out either oh it was good yeah we love seabass over here yes we certainly do we love way he checks the water checks the watch we love everything about that obviously uh you talked about playing with amateurs he did something that's a complete opposite of that I do believe go ahead tone yeah now you also talked about swinging your swing uh and being competitive I watched a couple weeks ago you and scottie shaffler hit and draws into a green how cool was it to to play with scottie and like when you get in those situations with obviously the two world number ones are you guys sharing swing thoughts or your swings are so different that you're not and then being competitive if you two are playing together who's getting strokes you know we do these uh tailor-made super shoes at the end of the year and like that's when we all get together and it's just so much fun especially like after the years that scottie has had and it's so cool to see always on my sheet that I get to do a video shoot with scottie and um I think that for sure like we're very competitive but it's also like super light hearted during the foods and to see like the way that he thinks about golf it's it's really unique how every single player thinks about their shots and the way that they execute like I did one with Tommy Fleetwood and I love Tommy Fleetwood like he is by far like my favorite golfer of all time I just love his personality and his swing and then I like do something with scottie and I just see like how much he works the ball and I'm just like oh he's you're such a talent and for me I I try to simplify the game as much as possible and I definitely think that like every golfer is a complete nut but those those times that we all get together and we kind of share our own thoughts about like how we want to execute the shots then we're like oh my gosh like we're all like mad scientists in a way yeah we're just talking about Einstein and Oppenheimer yeah we're big on the scientists but you would have to be because everything is what like a 15th of a centimeter is potentially a complete loss what's that taller shoes yeah exactly yeah that makes some different cleats for me a little different soul all of a sudden oh oh I gotta bend over I guess now the nice shoes to walk in I assume I assume they're very nice to walk in I don't know how you're right my feet are very happy but yeah it's like all about you like mis-hit it by a centimeter and this thing goes way right career over it's just about like centimeters in golf but it's so like my I talked to my dad so many times and like he played he played tennis and he would feel a gram in his racket a gram I mean that's like a doll that's a dollar bill so everyone every athlete just has they all have their own quirks yeah absolutely whenever you are a master of your sport you're gonna know it inside and out you certainly are that I don't know so you're 27 you started at two it's 25 years okay I just turned 39 let's assume I start next year so when I turn 65 there you go I don't know I think your swing speed is gonna just decline though no science now you don't know about this because you're still competing we got science I'm that swing speed might go up to be honest you know there's certainly gonna be a collapse a big cliff coming but I think that thing can only go up and then I'll start playing smarter golf I saw your average 283 is that right off the t-box 283 ish yeah but I honestly never hit my shots 100% one I think my back would break and two I feel like there's way more control when you don't try to smash every single ball like I don't not want to swing out of my shoes ever and I think that's what I see with a lot of amateurs is like they get that driver in their hands and they're like okay like I'm gonna grip and rip right now yeah yeah that is what we're doing Nelly how many times I get a chance to do this I don't know I like how many golf balls do you lose around that see why are we bringing that out how about how many things how many times I get to actually swing it out of my shoes and it actually counts I'm at least the two-sleeve guy though yeah but you're not gonna get me through a 418 yeah right I'm at 1213 holes I gotta go we don't it's so long and then the walking cheese I did that a couple times out at the American Century in Tahoe bruised all my toes blisters everywhere exhausted so sore I'm like fuck all this my swing sucks I'm not good I'm getting embarrassed in front of people and my entire body hurts from walking a mountain I feel like a dipshit John Daly used to walk these things Patrick Reed stomping through these ground and I'm out here dying it was just a bad experience I retired from the game two years Nelly I put the sticks down I retired I quit but now you have a new swing thought so you're making a comeback okay try to hand it over yeah which is the superior yeah if we were to do would you say golfers are athletes yeah yes definitely we're selling it here hold on what happened so that happens you get said you're not if people say you're not an athlete I mean that's kind of like you know the what they always say is like golf is like the retirements for right but like go that and please like they walk four days 18 holes and it's not just that like we're walking Monday through Wednesday also like we're in the gym we're working hard we're practicing and like people actually experience that for the week and they're dead and we do that like weeks in a row so I've always heard that and I love that we're settling it here yeah absolutely we'll be the authority on that I'm sure people would take us seriously I'm sure that's right we're the right people to do that people don't even think I'm an athlete you know and I'm not in the grand scheme of things you are definitely golfers higher up in the athlete community than a punter in the NFL definitely so yeah I would love to say you guys super athletes if I had to say anything perfect I mean that's just how are you with ball sport you throw do you throw catch yeah I throw I throw yeah I've actually just become a big Packers fan so I've just gotten into football I have my cheesehead right here wow how come you just got into this is brand new you're a Packers fan they're gonna love to hear this Ty is gonna love to hear this yeah so my fiance he's a huge Packers fan and I'm kind of marrying into it and I've like full I've fully sent into it I love it been out to Lambeau field I think it's the greatest place in the world I've been on the field like so cool I love I love watching other sports and I think the atmosphere there was super super cool hey listen they're gonna love to hear that yeah and the NFL as a whole I don't want to speak for everybody but we're pumped the goat is coming into our community go ahead and brace the hell out of it now they're gonna be showing you a lot you know that you you start poking your head at those games the NFL certainly gonna get the most well and there is Nellie Cordova the greatest of all time whenever it comes to the LPGA she is a massive fan so I can't wait to watch her rise in the NFL pop culture world we're appreciative of you joining us here AJ has a question for you actually Nellie yeah no you mentioned how amateurs will you know swing out of their shoes I guess I've seen you give some swing tips to you know maybe scrubby terrible players like myself and Pat sometimes but what I guess what are some of the most common mistakes that you see where I know you get paired up in programs all the time and you so you've seen every all the range of golfers like what are the most common things that bad golfers like us do well there's a few how long we got we got some time I would say the first mistake that I see is like on the range right you're warming up to go play like if you don't know where you're aiming on the range there's no way that you know where you're aiming like how do you know where you're where the what if you skip the range yeah well then that's your number one problem how many swings do I have how many hours you want me at this place the round itself it just takes 10 minutes that's it 10 minutes before your team you kind of we call that calibration those are like calibration drills your your eyes change every single day and having that stick down on the ground and going from ball to flag and knowing like that your your mind is and your eyes are calibrating that's really important so always have a stick on the range too I mean they're you know working on your short game your putts your chips around the greens I mean that's so much fun for other people to do and at the end of the day I would say yes it's so easy to compare your swing to like the perfect swing of like Adam Scott or a lot of people compare their swing to mine but at the end of the day like swing your own swing like find the ball hit it again find the ball hit it again and then once you start to get hooked on the game like then you can kind of dissect like okay where should I get better maybe I should go get a lesson but if you're not inclined to go get a lesson like my first tip is always learn how to aim learn smart for that well it sounds like we got to get on the goddamn range too we're time aiming to like on Sunday of last week I or yesterday I was starting to aim so far right and that's one of my tendencies is like my head starts to tilt a little back at address and I start to kind of aim a little bit more right and then I just start to swing a draw a little too much let's say for the people that are asking out there not me can't be people that are out there what am I aiming my shoulders my feet what the hell like I've the feet is where I'm trying to is that what I'm doing I'm done feet but everything has to be in line your feet have to be in line with your knees your knees have to be in line with your hips your hips have to be shoulders knees and toes knees and toes and I scald the ball it goes so I mean I'm just telling you guys you know if you're picking up golf you're gonna be crazy and just get used to it I love that well it sounds like the craziness is certainly working for you and we're incredibly pumped that we get a chance to watch this career continue to go we all know Miss Patty Berg okay 1937 1958 legend yeah PB yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah patty Berg now she could spin it mm-hmm yeah I got 15 majors you all the time in the world to go chase we can't wait to watch it all congrats to you getting back on top uh the LPGA and also just seemingly golf and life as a whole cheers to you Nellie thank you for joining us thank you guys I really appreciate it okay how much season do you have left um until November holy shit yeah long okay will you join us again through the season here or hopefully if you guys have me back well we got golf season happening the weather's getting warm yeah this swing might be coming together I got some selfish questions there do you have what do you have um so I'm a little past that point of like you know the I can hit the ball I can feel I can score below not I'm a hook you know three years ago I started playing one of your swings was one of the swings I watched obviously I'm trying to break 80 though so what's the tips I know most people come out hey let me just get a couple more birdies but what is your advice to breaking 80 for the first time never done it might well one you have a stick on the range I don't you don't have alignment sticks I have it but I don't use it wake up wake up and listening fucking missing the whole range continue to like do you go out and actually like work on any part of your game like okay like let's say just go out and put four teas around the cup at four feet and like try to make eight in a row like go around like these are like the smallest of things that will I do this game like go out and chip a little bit like do do drills like it's it's a lot of fun to actually do drills I like won't leave a spot until I've completed a really hard drill but I would say like one making sure that you know how to aim to not swinging out of your shoes learning how to like control your swing speed like okay if I want to hit an ADR shot I can hit it with two clubs I can hit it with a 54 degree and I can hit it with a 58 degree because I'm starting to control my swing speed so it's like it's like things like that that like really set apart I think like really good golfers to like beginners where they're like okay ball I'm just trying to hit it really hard like then you're like okay I'm learning how to start my ball on the right target to make four foot putts like it's just like the smallest of things that will actually add up and then I'm worried you're 80 for you I'm worried thank you I'm never gonna do any of that I got a bad feeling I need to get the bug to start making four for putts right here well we got we got right here please send it my way yeah well I couldn't imagine the amount of time you've spent on the practice range practice greens all those things throughout your entire life you started when you were two years old crazy yeah can you send I'm not gonna do my skin has no chance guys when I'm when I'm like 40 and 50 my skin is going to be looking like 70 with how much time I've spent yeah but do you get a sweet like stew sink yeah did you see his uh his son oh sorry sorry sir the most recent one it is boom I'm like applying sunscreen religiously I do have like a really bad whoop tan I came back from Mexico like I'm deaf and my hand is a different color to compared to the rest of my body the golf tan lines are spectacular yeah the socks the the socks on the feminine socks yeah I get those all the time like oh you didn't take your socks off at the beach funny no I'm a professional fucking golfer shut up could you imagine if that's how you responded be so sick oh sweet tan lines what did you bury your feet at the beach no actually I just won my third major and back to back in Mexico so yep yeah I don't think I could do that I just that I'm just like yeah you know I just own the own the different tans all right well we'll do it for you we'll do it for you it's a Wednesday season uh conclude uh a week before Thanksgiving all right let's go let's win this thing we're going on the ride we're going on the ride oh yeah you've had six straight top two finishes I do believe let's go let's see we're gonna ride alongside we're so thankful uh that you joined us and good luck the rest of the way thank you thank you guys thanks for having me just think about it oh you need to do coca-cola oh yeah yeah that's a big one you're trying to grip and rip yeah try and do Pepsi no it's coca-cola baby coca-cola nice and smooth yeah nice and smooth baby yeah of course are you the best ladies and gentlemen Nellie corda just so good a gulf yeah filthy we're just watching clips earlier today yeah right just the smoothest of all time how you doing keep it moving I assume people do ask her about her swing all the time because how nice it is we probably just did the most stereotypical golf conversation she's ever had every time she's had to have a conversation and I'll tell you what awesome human for it all yeah she's a beast over there D-butch yeah so smooth I love her game and she has some good tips aim that's important learn how to aim because I do it is that is suck when you hit the ball you can press the shot at the ball but you pull it and it's oh I was aimed that way so aim in the drills and then not swinging 100% she says she never swings every two eighty just not 100% 10 out of 10 I assume that's probably the same for most golfers not Scotty Scotty Scotty fell out of the box that's what so frustrating is because like she says that I feel like everything she just said is correct but then if Scotty Shuffler is the number one golfer in the world for the men is swinging out of his shoes every single time I'm watching him golf it's like it's crazy but that's the whole swing your swing thing you know swing your swing swing your swing Scotty Shuffler told me to do the same thing seems like the number one golfers in the world I will not miss an opportunity to ask them what I need to be doing yeah both of them say swing your swing it's like my swing is ass can you can you give me a little something else to help me out let's just find it you'll find it it's like these two are weapons golf's in a great place fantastic watch this weekend how about the Kentucky Derby so fun really cool 19.6 million viewers average obviously is that particular number huge huge show uh congrats NBC continuing to just crush everything in the race itself obviously a lot of lead-up a lot of shenanigans a lot of tom fullery a lot of quizzing a lot of manjolips a lot of scenes a lot of interviews a lot of pre-racers a lot of that shit built up to the Kentucky Derby the most exciting two minutes in sports or whatever it was it lived to the building golden tempo put on a hell of a show the fact that it was golden tempo and renegade at the end was insane because you see where golden tempo comes from and then did you see renegade out of the gates the obviously he was on the rail he was in the one slot and the five horses to the right of him just just came crashing down on him so he had to pull back and then make an incredible run there's a lot of really good runs out of these horses on saturday yeah the rapoli thing with the renegade horse I thought was really sick like typically I feel like I will watch the Kentucky Derby see a couple things you know immediately after but on social media uh Rapoli talking to his you know jockey basically like hey if you're going to lose it was going to be to your brother which you mentioned earlier which I didn't really even notice until uh I saw the Rapoli and Rapoli said family won today yeah hey don't cry like smack super Italian hey yeah hey listen don't you cry today if you're going to lose anybody you lose to your brother family won today okay it was like the most Italian reaction of all time and his horse ran a great race I assume he's very proud yeah of renegade for the race that they ran but golden tempo just coming flying from the back stealing the Kentucky Derby live in here it is right here hey listen listen do we have sound for this okay hey, girl crying, okay, so you'll lose to your brother, family won, okay, all right, let's go, okay I That was super tired of it right there Kissed on the kiss them right there on a cheek come here. Come here You see this suit fucking pride you hey Baby girl here crying That's how probably the owners boxes were awesome Absolutely a lot of celebration a lot of them even even that the winners owners box was awesome Like all the love that owners box. I can't remember who it was for to the right of the Oscillie yeah, oh which came in third I believe and then the winner is to the left of them But like they were all like it was awesome scenes. Yeah Kentucky Derby seemingly delivered on all fronts. I'm gonna say it I'm gonna say it. Oh, no, okay. Just watch it from home. I can't I got no doubt I gotta go you never been boozing the ground. Oh, yeah You've done it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I've done it first year out here. It was my birthday weekend Obviously kind of always follows on that. No, but I don't think I had played Yet, I don't think I played for the Colts you know, but I was out here for whatever workouts. Yeah, we went down there What a time. What was it fit for sure? shorts obviously boat shoes Talked-in shirt sunglasses big hat So much boozing in there. It was rainy. So it was all muddy I mean it was exactly how you think and then four street live, which is downtown Louisville like they get after I mean It is I mean this guy would know yeah better you watch from home this week. Did you miss it? Did you get the the itch to be down there in Louisville to Churchill grounds? Hello grounds to watch Golden Tempo Kind of electrify the entire race. Yeah, it was a fun race. It is yeah, it's obviously very cool to go there But it's like anything like it's about the people you go with so yeah, I always get to go and hang out with a Much old old teammates. I don't see very often. So it's awesome getting back with them But yeah, it's it's awesome, but it is definitely like it's too if you go a lot of people go two full days I'll go Friday and like 9 30 a.m. Till six or seven and then Saturday do the same thing So like you better strap in and watch some horse races. Yeah You better strap in and just really kind of deal with the whole because don't you get bussed in and out too? Like it's hard to get into the area. I think right. Yeah, everything's everything's tough getting in and out But yeah, it's it's a process Certainly worth it though. So yeah, it's cool. It's cool. We watch a different world. Yeah, very different world We watch a man who comes from that world who was scared to say that he actually aids from that world Hit a nine horse on Friday night while we were here Having a nice little card night this nine horse is all Bruce needed and he had been calling it from the beginning Didn't even see the nine on the graphic at the bottom because it was hidden behind one of the ponies Bruce this is a nice little weekend for you and horse racing I would say the ponies delivered nicely for all Bruce Brown's bank account. Yeah, it was an awesome Kentucky Oaks for me I hit the pick six there with the nine horse favorite I believe it was Joe Jose Ortiz on the on the ride there as well But yeah, it was a great weekend great great Kentucky Derby congrats to Golden Tempo and all the connections Unbelievable ride that final stretch run from last to first It's like if you were making a horse racing movie. That's what you would want the final scene to be Just an unbelievable ride from Ortiz to go up there and and obviously catches his brother on on Renegade A ton was made about all the jockeys kind of switching horses I read Ortiz had his like sort of the pick of the litter between five horses every Race that Golden Tempo is ran. He has been the jockey and you can kind of see obviously that sort of that connection paying off it's not It's not something that they're not used to right coming from behind and getting all the way up there Really cool to see it all pay off. Yeah, I enjoyed the race. I enjoyed learning the story the so happy Yeah, so happy with Mark glad the trainer. It's crazy that much like March Madness. I find myself knowing nothing Yeah, and then all of a sudden over like a two-day period I'm like Massively invested in these things that I know very little about and then all of a sudden I see myself downloading a new app Yeah, and then trying to figure out I shouldn't have done that and then have to put a bank account in again and do an entire thing again It's like wow, this is crazy how this all works out But it does feel special and then what's next preak nasty over there in Baltimore. Yes. Yeah, that is the the next Hopefully Golden Tempo goes did the bed. Go what you say? They said because in the past guys have won the Derby and not even tried to win the triple crown I'm sure it they got to see how how Golden Tempo comes out So as long as he's like continue to eat continuing eating is normal the is normal amount and is all sound I think that they're gonna send Golden Tempo to the pregnes, but no one else from the Derby is gonna go It's great. Why did not we need to see great white get another shot of the Fresh legs. I don't know if we do what? Oh How do you do that? Cuz it's an outlaw rather all the other ponies before the race. Oh, sorry. That's great white football smart move Okay, it's also like the biggest horse in the world this horse is huge so many hands I obviously didn't know what a hand was last week, but that's that's one of the biggest horses I've ever seen yeah, I think I think great white needs to make it presents now At least at least for the pre-race routine it was the jockies fault absolutely Was whispering shit, it's here. It was quite funny there Gray whites Irish trainer. They did like a interview with him in the buildup He was maybe the most confident trainer How is like great white? I mean look at him. He's huge. We got a good chance here and then just bam That's a terrible Irish accent, but you get it the Taj Schmitts not here So obviously you're kind of put into a tough spot there He would have picked right up for you there as the Irish lad who was speaking about the great white horse who just moments before getting Gated is that what that's called? You put it into the gate. Yeah. Yeah every year. I learned about this again I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot getting into the gate is a big song and dance like this is a big to-do This is a big part of the race back. This is a this a massive piece of it There's always some shenanigans seemingly as they're pushing the ass end of a horse into something and then shutting it and then zooming out Nothing's fucking off and running Are these things jacked up because the amount of people you think the great whites are the great lights? Oh, yeah, holy hell. This is gonna be a great night and got all Kind of worked up and said, you know what actually I'm do a backflip. Maybe the jocky was holding back Maybe the great white one to do an entire backflip and the jocky kind of slowed it down He's not hurt right not injured somehow. No, yeah all good precautionary scratch there Obviously took a pretty hard guy fall into the back the crowd is They still will whoa Going home. Yeah home home to the farm. We know that means we're all the dogs go Oh horse that big they need to start them anyway. Yes, yeah, exactly. They got other ways to do that Bad news boys. No great whites at prick nasty. When's this couple weeks? Yeah a few weeks. I forget I'll be there Backlashes this weekend you paying attention or travel chiefs Is he fighting you talking to her wrestling or does he have a man? No, you're not a man in the back No, when you made your proclamation about the business I joined in on that one me too It was a problem that if you that if Randy lost never coming back. Yeah, but I was talking about like oh No, I'm just out forever. Oh just your eyes. Yeah, so soon as they have I'm worth watching. I'll be back. Geez Cody Rhodes ready long Don't hold your breath brother. It's still same gimmick. I mean hold your breath. Especially if Gunther's around. He's back. Okay. Nope. I hate going to he sucks Nope, it's a guy stinks. I put me night night. So I can't say anything about it. It is violent They're already going into the scene of puddle, you know, they're What are you talking about? Retired that's why he lives he lives in I knew he was full of shit. He's been working on something. I said he sat right there. So I'm never coming back. Hmm Yeah, kind of questioned his integrity and they go right Yeah, you guys got pissed at me every time I asked if he was coming back you guys looked at me like I was a terrible person Yeah, you're right. That's cuz he's not coming back. He's just helping the business What's the scene of puddle with me exactly so basically what scene is doing right now is he graduated high school? We still go into all the parties. Okay, go to college John. Yeah, you're done We come back to our parties with your letterman jacket on okay Leave some for the rest of us. That's not what's happening John scene is trying to continue to build the business He's just not wrestling anymore. Okay. Yeah, I was saying like seeing a puddle is in the sense that right now It's kind of like a desert and everyone's just So thirsty and they got nothing to hold on to so that's not true You put John scene on the building you specially get that but yeah, I mean far too getting an opportunity here Who's the first deal? Who's the first one? It's the same guy is evil fighting. Oh Evil's an NXT. I do believe debuted last week. Love that a lot of debuts in an spell guy fighting Dan Housins actually looking for a tag team partner. I do believe for backlash. Yeah, he's great So we probably won't see him for a couple months. No, we'll see Dan house. He's everywhere. He's a backlash I did Where's back at yeah, I do like Dan Housin as well. It's good. It's housing No, it's not jumping shark seen him Dan housing we he's only starting housing. Yeah, that is what's happening Is jelly getting easy a squash somebody here? I'll tell you he broke my back He almost broke my neck so oh Tampa. Yes, John see Jocelyn lives here. He lives in Tampa. Yeah The guys been doing yeah, I thought he lived overseas. He did for those five years It's official. He's headed back to WWE backlash after months of planning and effort. I am so excited to break some history making news I can't promise it'll be perfect, but I can't promise it'll change your WWE experience for superstars and fans See you live Saturday in Tampa or at home on the ESPN app. Hell. Yes, you know, this is what you guys are all mad about What could it be what's gonna change the whole experience? What is it? I don't know. I believe in John Cena though personally I would like to let it be known that I believe in John Cena. So whatever he's So he lied right to our face sat right there. He was grandstanding in this office Coffee he was he was a local coffee shop. He was drinking that gimmick little coffee for six hours He supported the business said are you gonna question my integrity? I'm never coming back, right lo and behold Sounds like his integrity. No, he's not in the ring I saw him in the ring announced with the microphone in his hand announcing attendance, which was an incredible number And I think he was Partially to blame for the amount of people that came he's not wrestling even whenever the housings came out No physical no physicality the John Cena being around WWE is good thing on that thing. I think personally Tribal chief housing killed that is he He will be there. That was actually funny Jacob fire to we talk yet. I mean we just talked about No, anything that you were saying That's on you Adam of me on you. Why is it on me? Because you said I should have kind of Randy Loses we're out and I'm not no no I took my marching orders and I went no no cuz if I would have just went game You didn't did your business. I think you still saved the business. Well. Yeah I this was the problem the bazaar's was that Pipped have you ever world title you did pivot. It's like you picked a homerun and cover up That's on me. Mm-hmm. I got lost in there a little bit. You know, how could you not? I already had a neck brace Attack yeah, so my weakness. That's why he's the viper. Yeah apex Prater He knows you the legend killer The depiction of perfection for professional wrestling felt so good that coming out of my mouth in a stadium stadium is tough Is the echo? Oh, yeah Stadium is tough. That's not a place you want to be speaking your plate me to yours in there Didn't think about that until As I was going oh Forgot about this one. This is good. It's the business kid. Oh, yeah, I messed people up Me did you see the Pittsburgh's the other one before we did the NFL draft experience with the kick With the giveaway. Oh, yeah It starts and I go, oh, no, I was not prepared for this We just threw this together in the last 25 minutes and I didn't even think about the echo while I'm talking to these people It was incredible. What a fun time. What a fun life. What a great experience. Thank you to sports huge ones tonight AJ Let's get your picks on these things in the east. We got flyers at Hurricanes 7 p.m. On ESPN Hurricanes currently up 1. Oh, this is the second round. Who do you like? How do you like it AJ? Let's go ahead and make a pick here You know what we were and we spent some good time with coach Bill Cower back at the draft I know he is a Hurricanes guy. He has the what do you call it? What did he do with the siren? He blared did that whole situation because of my love for him. I'm taking the old Hurricanes on this one I'll tell you what I love Bill Cower too, man. That was that was an incredible couple days with coach Cower Yeah, I mean actually an incredible couple days. He said, you know the deal that was made for him to do that was something I could never expected you know coach Cower He did wailed on their side against the pensabalacea and also Stormy put girthy in a body bag Yeah, good social media coming out of this particular The Hurricanes mascot stormy put girthy into a body bag Grady is the name I refuse to call him that okay, maybe the girthy one okay, obviously a compliment though I'm up at the body part your pen did you talking about? Well, I think normally only gets talked about for one. I don't think there's normal other lessons a soup can There could be a chance Campbell's Also plays but on that note Is who you're talking about yeah gritty got buried by stormy I didn't hear it you're talking about penises right now I Would like to know the inside joke about a penis You talk about soup can Yeah, and then there was that would be terrible then somebody complimented it and then welcome to hell you muppet reject This is what we were talking about nothing to do with penises no or soup cans This is two mascots kind of getting after it on social media Okay, I do appreciate that But we would assume this would be a very fair fight between stormy and gritty I'm not sure gritty can die and I think stormy would kill what a tweet what a time Yeah, and that's when social media is good. What you say? Said soup can I say he goes east and west Okay, yeah Hit the walls I guess can't hit the back door Gotta hit the signs Malik Willis. I don't know if you saw this AJ He overthrew his opening pitch. He did have a glove though, which nobody's really talking about Game prepared with a glove which I respect very rare whenever it comes to first pitches. He overthrows Nasty and then obviously the whole world goes all the dolphins are gonna stick your thoughts on whether or not This is gonna lead to success or not Yeah, we touched on it before obviously this is all this is all success as long as you don't bounce it I am an absolute fan of whatever you do. I wish you would have thrown it into the 50th row up Maybe the next move from somebody is to fully embarrass yourself and chuck this thing over the backstop I believe is the name of that yes, it is and you gotta go over the net would you have to be way out there My big takeaway was look at the ham hox. He's got for cabs. That's that's that was my boy. It's my quarterback He looks jack. You go back a little bit right there. Yeah Yeah, he doesn't jack Yeah, the calves working. Yeah power Football is so much bigger than a baseball. I've been trying to throw a baseball or a with football in here It's not easy for football thrower. So Malik Willis has been training so hard with football You put that little tiny baseball in his hand. He's like Shaquille O'Neal holding the basketball. I remember we watching that Joe Burrow Was that He threw a two yards in the dirt That's interesting. She forgot about Joe Burrow not being able to throw a strike either and that was short left though That's what gives me even more faith in Malik because it was much closer to my home than it was to burrow Yeah, it's hard to throw a baseball. It's hard to write. Hey, how the reds doing? Great, what are you talking about? We got a long season ahead of us. We're doing great Here's Joe Burrow representing the Cincinnati Bengals a fanatic's fest. Remember we thought this might not be real Remember that we thought he might be messing around like the first one I can see maybe you might be too Is it something about this cage though? I feel like Ruben threw in that same cage Maybe there's some kind of weird lasers in there taking the ball from that one wasn't bad It's just sort of aiming right. You know, I think he just hadn't thrown a baseball in a while I don't want to he's making the adjustment. I lost to her like if Malik had five six throws Oh, all right, put it down. I want to leave also mashed in the batting cage as well. Oh, really? I didn't see that cage. He's an athlete Remember Orlovsky threw a nice ball in here with the baseball. Yeah, like a thousand times in a row at 8 a.m He was a rotten. He was 12 though. Oh Same trajectory didn't love baseball who caught for him there gumby. Yeah, that's good frame job. Yeah, it was great It was a little low. That was a good catch. It was certainly he was down in there Yeah, I'll be good real down low in there for Daniel or love ski. We appreciate that. All right I think we need to get the hell out of here. How's the weather? Beautiful today 75 and Sunday believers. Maybe not so sunny right now, but 75 we got some rain right now It should be done 25 minutes What the crazy that we have that in our society right now? Thank you, Joe feels like 60 and says 69 They're still working out there might be just a little light mist as opposed to maybe a real rainstorm. Yeah Good to see the crew out there getting after it AJ Are they the roundabout coming up is gonna be done real soon? Yeah, I think the traffic's gonna be a real problem I mean traffic's gonna be real problem Allegedly they're really moving on the construction and everything about like it. They're thinking it's gonna take less time Have you heard more than I have or are you just driving by just getting vibes from the board s drivers too Just kind of just seeing observing feel they feel good about it We are in construction season shout out to everybody out there doing it We appreciate you putting our world together certainly inconvenient for most but who cares progression has to happen things have to get better Sometimes you gotta take it on the shins to do as such or battle the Sun shot the Nelly joining us. Yeah, it was awesome I appreciate her she was awesome. Hopefully we'll get a chance to chat with her again We certainly knew that her league went all the way until the week before Thanksgiving, right AJ. We knew that yeah, we did I'll tell you what she's got a long road ahead. She's got a lot of tournaments She's gonna still win this year six top two finishes in a row now. Can she carry it for the next 55 weeks? Yep What's got a good three three top or three second place finishes in a row for Scotty? Yeah, he started really good going to he's what happened to him on a 18th. He fell out of that thing pretty good Him talking about Cam young was cool. He was talking about Cam young draining everything feels like he just rained everything He didn't miss anything Scott. He was like I got to play with him here wire to wire wire Cam wins this entire thing He's like he's getting incredible shots. How do you feel about him giving himself that ability? I love it for the good of the game. It was up five strokes Everybody said it's much easier to call that whenever you're up five He came from a golf family right his dad is a golf instructor a PGA pro feels like he grew up on the course Feels like this was a good moment for him to showcase what you're supposed to do I think that is probably how he viewed it all we've also seen guys that have done this in the past I mean, I'm and this is strictly just allegedly and things that were on the course But Patrick Reed had that has fallen or followed him Patrick Reed for a long time since a lot of people Whatever they're in the sand him doing that whole thing like the honor of the game It does feel like there are guys that hold in high regard and I don't know if Cam young's thinking like oh if I don't say this right now People are gonna say I'm cheating but I do think there is that sense of like hey I owe it to the game who cares why he did it if he thought that maybe somebody was gonna call him out publicly And he did it if he thought to himself immediately for the good of the game Yeah, who cares still did it with a lead on Sunday for the good of this great game that we love debug I like it is a beautiful game and made me feel especially good after learning of Someone who played high school golf and told me about how they cheated every tournament because I got a daughter And we stick by the rules even though I hate it I would like to help but it's got foxy Cheating and what do you mean? We would cheat in matches in team matches because if you're cheating It's good for the team because you're gonna win so in practice No cheating that is not allowed because we need the best golfers to be out there and need the best six But in matches, it's a good team move to cheat in matches for it. I love it. What is the cheating move? How are you? Let's just say you know you walk up to your ball and you have a forefooter No one's looking. I'm mark marking that three feet away or maybe oh no, it's a two feet away You've got that thing in half if you can get away with it. That's what you do So another one example, you know, I'm going through scorecards end of the round I'm like wow, I played really bad today. We're going pop up You say like four three and they're all like yeah, yeah, yeah, and then the other guy goes you got a five there, right? I really got a seven on it. Yeah, I got a five there Oh That's a big one That doesn't happen much and this is why the golf gods won't bless you with anything longer than 230 yards for the rest of your life You're not lying and I agree with you guys I like that Cam young called himself on it and like you know integrity respect the game all that shit But it is a problem with the game of golf like that clearly didn't give him any advantage It clearly just slowed things down Scotty even says in the background like bro if it didn't move or if you weren't addressing it or if you didn't do it Intentionally then don't worry about it But we always have to go with the rules rules are there for a reason and just kind of What do you want you want Jason Kelsey jumping in Augusta's Is that what you're trying to get rid of the integrity of golf Golf is already hard enough and he didn't do anything to try to cheat and try to do his thing like Patrick Reed People are like he did that on purpose to improve his life. I don't think Cam young was doing that Let's just keep it moving. Don't need the stroke panel. Okay. I Can agree with that but what precedent does that set exactly rules are there for a reason kids watching man Yeah, my daughter's turn three today. Yeah, she needs a golf that is golf. Yeah, okay? Not whatever you want. Well, you just want the YouTube clips anyways, don't you? Yeah, that's all I We're gonna all play golf at some point in the future. I don't cheat when I'm with you guys Okay Yep always finding his ball no matter what you never would have thought that with Foxy No, you wouldn't because he played in young exactly if you're on my team. I'll cheat for us though. We're trying to win here Jesus all right. I'll put the fuck Thank you for sacrificing and I know what else wants to know I I'm starting to wonder how many times I've reaped the benefits. Oh, yeah, you do Foxy cheating I mean there are some tournaments in high school golf where you got a scramble here with a teammate there I mean you're sending your teammate up there found your ball or I mean there are times You're improving your live by this much if you can get away with it. That's a big deal on the putting On the putting green. Yeah Turn the four footer into a two footer. Yeah, I'd say and really you're just like laughing about it at that point It's pretty damn ten footer into the hole. Holy shit You got it rolled in look here and you got to keep in mind. There's a lot of goofballs that play varsity golf So like you get away with a lot of stuff Not you Not me out of here Foxy they're gonna start looking into all the William Stinn's golf records. I was all league my senior year Take that away Behind a tree fairway Foxy That's like we heard My life we're in this thing together massive games. Okay, we already picked one. Sorry. We gotta finish this Okay, so who you like the hurricanes there and flyers versus hurricanes How about the ducks and golden nights 930 on ESPN? Who do you like in that one AJ? I like the Vegas Golden Knights. I'm a John Tortorella fan and he is the he's running the ship right now Okay, so you got torts and you got the hurricanes cuz Bill Carr I'll take the flyers and I'll take the golden nights as well Debut would you like to pick these games or let me go? You know what flyers? I want her hurricanes and Go to nice. Okay, Tony. Give me the Caines and ducks con man. I'll go the Caines Golden Knights I know he believes in Sinai in the boys in Philadelphia Seven lost yet this entire Down the whole playoffs rolling pretty historic run for them and tonight gritty enough liars get gritty on the ice And they change that old thing. Well, let's go to the NBA sixers in Nick's Joel M. Bede Shom said playing it sounds like well as he takes on the Knicks and Jalen Brunson favored by seven and a half AJ Who do you like? Man, I honestly I like the sixers here I can picture as Tyrese Maxi at the end of their last game how sudden how quick and how fast that dude can get to The hoop and take over the game at the end and if the beat is playing. Yeah, give me the six or sooner You like sixers plus seven and a half. Oh Sure. Yeah, I'll take them plus seven and a half as well. D. But I am a little worried about the sixers coming off Kind of that emotional high that big comeback game seven Knicks are kind of fresh That's a lot of points. I'm still going to six or seven. Okay sixers plus seven and a half Even though he tried to talk himself out of it tone dig. He made a lot of good points Sixers plus seven and a half con man. I'll take the Knicks. Okay. Knicks minus seven and a half Connor saves the graphic If you will Tim Revolves and spurs ant man full participant are trying to get his way back into the game Just nine days removed from a hyper extension that caused a bone bruise in his knee taking on Wimby in the spurs spurs favored by 13 half is that still the spread down to 11 and a half 11 and a half is now the spread Okay, that makes sense with the news from shams about ant man potentially playing tonight. AJ. Who do you like? How do you like it? With a man coming back. I don't know if they're gonna win But I'm taking Minnesota that plus 11 or plus 11 and a half plus 11 and a half D. But I'll take spurs to cover 11 and a half Tom same D. But yeah spurs when be over points. It's him versus go bear French battled down low. They were teammates in the Olympics. Okay. I'll take the spurs in that as well All right, let's enjoy the hell out of tonight's playoffs. We got some baseball tonight. I assume. Yeah, the whole whole slate Awesome baseball news, too. Oh, yeah Speaking of cheating foxy. Yeah, not good foxy Scoobles being shut down for he's gonna have surgery on his elbow Damn floating floating bodies in his elbow. They said two to four months or something like that two to three months Detroit ace Terak school one ago surgery to remove loose bodies in his left elbow Such procedures typically sideline players for two to three months Scoobles should return before season ends but tough blow for the impending free agent in two time reigning alca young winner That sucks loose bodies Yeah, he's probably got a little chip in something. Yep Chipping something around in there. It sucks. It happens to your meniscus, I think piece of meniscus kind of chips off or something else like that just kind of bounces around and it like locks up It like locks up your I know where it sits. Yeah, it's like where it is depending upon I did in my knee when I hyperextended my knee. I got a dislocated patella Which is your kneecap your kneecap sits in? Groove mine when I hyperextended it bounced outside of the groove and bounce back So there's like a little chip of something that was like bouncing around in there So like when I would get into certain spots It was like, oh my god, and then it would bounce out of the way, you know, then you're like back to business But yeah, I don't know if it's similar but sounds like loose bodies is something that's floating around in there And it gets real terrible when it happens upon some places that are great Is this because he did Team USA training camp? Oh, no, the jet might be I think you should have pitched for Team USA We would have found this earlier who would have been back earlier We could have won the World Series Also, it turns out wouldn't have mattered if you pitched in the for Team USA because this was gonna happen regardless It sounds man if he would have pitched for Team USA and then this happened Bad news Especially how much money is on the way this doesn't affect the money. I don't think right people are still gonna pay scuba Yes, definitely in this prime. Yeah, if it's two three months because especially if he comes back and pitches well for the rest of season And then good luck out there scuba report for you. Sorry Detroit. Sorry Detroit. You get the stones. You lose scuba. Yeah Sorry motor city kiddies What's that the Detroit Tigers? That's what I call the motor city kiddies Do a lot of people calm that because this could be like the stones thing where Foxy kind of puts us out on an island It says everybody says this and nobody says it a lot of people saying the motor city kiddies Yeah, a lot of people I know call them up real I've never heard before people call them that I don't it also Look for the lions as well if you really wanted to go I'm kind of impressed with the motor city kiddies though because the lion's great animal great. That's a great kitty Yep, that's a powerful fucking kitty Tiger and the Tigers a badass cat as well to the best motor city badass kiddies I think you know you kind of get after it the lines gonna win again. He goes miss playoffs this last year Yeah, we're gonna win again We have the easy schedule in the NFL and also the boys are gritty and chippy and ready to roll What does that mean AJ the easiest schedule in the NFL? Are they playing professional teams? Yeah, is that possible they play some college teams? So would you guys rather have the fourth place schedule in all the divisions or would you have it? First place schedule what you're saying is we think that that's all bullshit though. I don't know for last year's record Right, I'm pretty sure the Patriots had the hardest schedule at the beginning of the season last year And then it ended up being the easiest schedule by the end of it I think there's just so much potential Fluctuation that could happen with teams and who's good who's not good remember that year that we had we're two and fourteen or whatever And the suck for luck stuff was happening. There was like nine one-score games where if a ball just so happens To fumble loose score we win that game. I think it's hard to just say a team now granted There are historically good teams and historically ass teams So I think you did I don't like the whole that that has become a thing though Like you get a bad schedule. It's like there is no fucking bad schedule. The NFL is good at football all of them some Perpetual ass We all thought of the Jets right there. I did not who'd you think of France perpetual as dolphins Hey, I was strictly thinking about the schedule getting thrown in drag maize face even though It's just not all last year. Well, that's what I'm kind of saying. Yeah, it's not real Yeah, like teams good that you're playing against people get paid millions of millions of dollars to play football Some teams just show up better Obviously especially at the end of the season, but like the Jets not doing ass stuff this offseason not yet a good draft No leaks love that and this in this climate love that. That's crazy No, they got to pick his in being filmed some other places leaks everywhere? Literally? I come on in? Let's film all the leaks in and in this Jets organization, which is notoriously? As? No leaks for that number two overall pick? I think that was a huge sight? I think that was a huge sight personally? Hey? Oh? Yeah, I would imagine head coach Aaron Glenn is cutting the clips to was you? Saying? That's a great sign and showing the front office as well? Hey guys? We're cleaning things up around? I think we've talked a lot of shit on the Jets I don't know if they're showing much of us around there and on that note good luck to all parties? We'll be back tomorrow. We got big games tonight in the playoffs. Round two of the NBA and NHL playoffs on the way. I'm a great time to be alive. If you get a chance to go see Savannah bananas, no, Jude. Do it. You're gonna be put first, fan first. We'll sign a first autograph and last autograph. What'd they do? 102,000. That's a lot. That's crazy. That's so many people going to something. Ton. That's so many fucking people. Insane. I don't know how you could hate at this point. Just as just going to the next place, maybe Central Park. Shit. Maybe a beach. Maybe the moon. Maybe the moon. If it happens, he'd be there. I believe it. Him and Dana White are gonna be racing to see who can get the first event out there. Yeah, seriously. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. Might change your life, we'll understand together. We'll see you back tomorrow. Ty, congratulations, we love you, man. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Happy birthday, McKenzie!