Summer House's 'In The City' Trailer + Taylor Frankie Paul Files Protective Order Against Dakota

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And you can just, like I said, make the path to your best work helps you really be the most efficient. Exactly. So you can learn more at Microsoft.com slash M365 Co-Pilot. Happy Wednesday everybody. Happy Wednesday. How are we feeling today? Good. I feel like it's been a good week. Yeah, great week. Got some fun stuff coming up, planning. The summer's right around the corner. I can feel it. I can taste it. You start to really get into the summer planning of things and making sure you got all this down. I got some spring, couple of spring weddings that I'm looking forward to. Your hair's blond. Yes, I defrosted. You did defrost. I'm out of hibernation. I defrosted for the summer. As you must. Yeah, the hair's blond. Tommy noticed. Tommy, of course, noticed. Yes, of course. He said something different. There's something different about it. It's the most boy thing ever because most of the time they don't notice, but when they do notice, they can't pinpoint what exactly it is. So they look at you like you have 18 heads and then they go, did you do something to your hair? Yeah. And you're like, you are right. I did. And then they're like, I don't know what it is, but it's something. Nailed it. Nailed it. Yeah. I was like, of course you would notice that my hair is blonder. Yeah. Loving it. I'm upset. I'm obsessed. And I'm so excited because I'm getting, I was like, okay, I need to do my hair because in two weeks, I'm going to Italy for the first time. I'm so excited. I don't think I'm... That's probably legit shocking to people. I don't think I've talked about it once on this show. No, I don't think you have either. I don't think you have either. And I was going to say, it's that will probably blow people's minds. Yes. Yes. That this is your first time ever going to Italy. So, you know, I've obviously always wanted to go to Italy, but I always felt like I got to go with my parent. I don't know why, but my... Well, I do know why because my mom used to go when she was way younger and her dad is from Italy and literally came here when he was 27. So she has always wanted to go back because the last time she was there, she was very young. But this honestly happens months ago now, like maybe in November or this... When was the last... They haven't been back? No, my mom has not been back since. No, my mom has not been back since she was like a little girl. Oh my God. I don't think I realized that. No. So, I talked to my dad privately without my mom knowing and I was like, hey, like if Matt and I surprise you guys with a trip to Italy, like how do you feel about that? I really want to surprise mom because I had heard that my mom was basically crying to my family that she'll never get to go back to Italy and she'll never see it again the last time she saw it. She was a little girl, like the whole thing. My dad was like, wow, yeah, as a parent, they're obviously like, no, don't do that. But he was like, but she would love that. So I think back in November, we surprised her and she obviously lost her mind and was like, oh my God, I'm going to kiss the ground when we land and the whole thing, the mother land. She was like, ah, so she literally, so excited and then Matt's parents are going to come to you now. So it's Matt and I and then both of our parents. So it's going to be a really special trip, really fun. Everyone's so excited. Yeah, I think none of us have been to Italy besides my mom. Yeah. And my mom does speak fluent Sicilian. Yeah. So it's different. Definitely. It's very different because it's more of like a, you know, it's a dialect. It's more like a slang. Yeah. A lot of it. So it'll be interesting because she's trying to brush up on like the actual Italian and not just what she knows. Yeah. But I'm like, hey, we'll have someone that can, she knows the gist, I assume, but it is very different. And they'll know too. Yes. They'll clock her immediately. Yes. So very, very exciting. So we're going, we're going in two weeks. I literally can't wait. We're going to Rome, Florence and then Teramina, Sicily. So it's going to be so exciting. It's going to be, listen, it's going to be quite the trip, quite the cast of characters. I mean. And Matt's parents have never been? No, they've never been either. Crazy. Yes. And getting them four together is always so fun. They have such a blast and are so funny together. So we can't wait. But Matt and I kind of feel like we're bringing our kids. Yeah, yeah. Generally and not like vice versa. But it, but it's really cool. And I feel so grateful that we were able to do that for them because it's going to be really special and really, really cool. And I really can't wait. Like I've kind of like put it to the side for, for months now. And now I'm like, oh my God. Well, it's finally here. It's, it's almost here. It's so crazy. Yeah. And the timing of it all works out so great because it'll be your one year wedding anniversary. Yes. Yes. So we're going to be in Florence for our one year wedding anniversary and we're kind of going to go off and do our own thing. Matt has something planned. I don't know what it is yet, although I can't help but spoil things for myself, which is so bad. But I will say this. Poor guy always tries to surprise you and you're just one step ahead. I know. And then, but the weekend before we go is his birthday. Yeah. So we said this last year where it was like, okay, next year, like I'm going to handle your birthday and then you handle the one year anniversary. So we could both like surprise each other sort of thing. So I have a surprise for his birthday that I'm, that I'm very excited about for the week before. So it's going to be a fun couple of weeks. I'm very, I'm really excited. And I'm just like, I'm so giddy about it. And yeah, doing, doing the one year anniversary in Florence, it's crazy. It's just, it's absurd. I just feel so grateful. I'm so, I'm so excited. And do you know the rule of like the, the gifts like, for wedding anniversaries, like one year, two year, whatever. So the first year, I don't know what they are, but I know that they're so the first year I paper, it's paper. I was hoping it was going to be leather because by Florence, leather in Florence. It's not, it's paper. Yeah. But I said, well, buy something, something of paper in Florence. Yeah. You'll find something. Something like that. Something that like is just commemorative. Yes. Yes. But I literally can't word. I'm so freaking excited. So that'll be, we're all, we're all taken a week off. Franny has a, you have a bachelorette trip. I do. For one of your friends who's getting married, Noah's headed to London with his mom, which is so exciting. Mother, son trip. Yeah. So nice that you do that with your mom. It is really nice. Well, last time I wanted to do it and then my sister and brother like finangled their way into it. So this time I'm like, it's just us. Yeah. Did you, was it a hard rule? Like you guys can't. Well, my mom. Like, did your siblings try and come and you said no or? I didn't tell them about it. And then my sister found out and my mom's like, she wants to come. I'm like, all right, she wants to pay her way there. But like, I'm like, also you're not like, you don't have to come on every trip, you know, you can, you can take it, take a trip with mom on your own time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Plan your own trip with mom. Yeah. I've, I've done some of the planning for Noah. She basically gave him every dinner reservation that he's going to. My mom's like, wow, like, cause I am like, we have every, every like meal planned out pretty much. Yeah. The most part. How many, how long are you going for? Uh, five days, I guess. One night. We get there on Sunday and then we leave on Friday. So I was a good solid, a good chunk of time. Solid chunk. Yeah. That's, um, that's, that's a really fun trip. I just felt like it's just so interesting when you, when you go somewhere with just one other person. That's the last time I went to London four years ago when we did like our week or monthly. Not like a significant other. Yeah. Me and my friend went just us last time. Uh, and it's fun. I mean, by the time, by the end of it, I was kind of like, I'm done with you. I've spent too much time with you. No, I, yeah. Yeah. And maybe my mom will like, maybe she'll like go to bed and I'll be like, I'll hit the town or something. She'll hit Bond Street. You'll hit the pubs. Yeah. No, she'll hit the pubs. She's looking forward to the pubs more than anything, I think. Oh, that's, anyone in London wants to hang out. Yeah. We'll be there. Love it. Give me British listeners. Yes. Sounds like a good time, honestly. Yeah. You know who knows who he could meet. Yeah. Notting Hill. Yeah. You never know. You have a whole big moment. It'll be nice. Famous actress. Yeah. This is like, we do like to take a little, uh, it's not spring break, but around springtime trip. So the timing of it just falling around where your anniversary is just to feel like works out. Yeah. We've done this the past couple of years and we usually center it around after the tour or right before the tour, that sort of thing. It always just depends on like, there's one of us always says something that we're like, Hey, can we build it around this? Last year it was Singapore. Well, because we didn't do one in the spring, remember? Well, like as Rhea went on her honeymoon and then we just like, we didn't take like a week off. Yeah, we did Singapore. Yeah. So we did that. We're like, well, the week that we were going to take off, we'll just go. Yeah. Well, like we'll, we'll sub that down into the fall, which didn't really feel like a big hit. Like it was obviously awesome, but it's like, it still felt because once the three of us, it just always feels like, yeah, like we got to be do get some content. Yeah. I'd like to say that I'm going to be off the grid and I'm going to be a lot, but I'm also like, I got to capture some things too. You don't have to be on the grid. Like you don't have to be off the grid. No, no, but like I want like, you know, I'm like, Oh, I really want to dive into every part and like be, but we're also, you're also so ahead. Yeah. Like six hours ahead or whatever it is that you are. Well, don't worry. I'll be, I'll be pretty close. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. No, no, no, don't worry. No, I'm still be on the taxi. I'm at the Coliseum and I look over and there's no one as mom. We're the crazy thing is that. We took the train. Originally, like we were thinking about like, oh, is it worth it to go to like another place? But I was like, it's a one week is kind of tough to like go to different countries. But it would have been. How come you're going to Paris? And Sarah's going to be in Ireland. We're all. Oh my God. Sarah's going to be in Ireland. Over there is not that hard. No, it's not, but it's just like staying in London for one week sounded easier. Sometimes because I'm like, I don't want to. Traveling is tiring. Yeah. It's time off. It's like, you know, but that would have been hilarious if I didn't tell you. And I was like, Rhea. All of a sudden, then Sarah's like, Hey, we just jumped over from Ireland. We're here too. That's hilarious. I love that. It's so funny. I am nervous to see. I think my parents could be anxious traveler sometimes. And I am a little bit nervous to see how they're going to react to the fact that we're going to have to take like a plane from from Florence to Sicily when they're like, wait, we're already in Italy. And we now have to get on another plane. If you get on like a like a Ryanair. And I've kind of like been like, oh, yeah, no, it's fine. We just go to the train and a plane and they're like, OK, whatever you want. And then like when the day happens, they're going to be like, oh, now, right. What is it? Easy. Jet. Yeah. There's all of them. Ryanair jet. There's like a bunch of those. That's what we did when we went to when we flew. But if anybody has any recommendations, please let me know. We have some things booked that we're doing, but we kind of got a restaurant in Florence for you. You got to go. Please let me know because we are left a lot of nights open just to kind of like walk around, see what's happening. We are I'm so excited. We're going to, you know, where the White Lotus was filmed in Taramina and we're going to go to like the bar where they, you know, a lot of it was shot. We have a reservation there and the whole thing. It's going to be great. My dad's like, oh, I'm going to rewatch. I'm going to rewatch White Lotus Italy. Like it's going to really throw your throw them off that that the. Locations are like different. They film at that hotel, but that hotel has no beach. So it's like the beach scenes. They film somewhere else in Sicily. So it's like you get to the hotel and you're like, where's the beach? No, not there. Not here. Not there. Not there. Yeah. Really exciting, though, because my mom's family is from Palermo, a city, Alcamo, that's in Palermo, which is on like the opposite side of the island in Sicily. So we're not going to go there. But she was like, we'll just take like we'll just drive there for the day. I said, you're not going to do that. It's like a four hour drive. Yeah, I was like, you're not you're not going to do that. But. Oh, God, it was so exciting. Mount Etna wine. Yes. Oh, yeah, we're going to because my in-laws fucking nobody loves wine more than them, which I appreciate because they because I've learned a lot from them about wine and appreciating good wine. And so we're going to a winery in Tuscany. That'll be nice. And I'm just really, I'm just really excited because it's going to be a special trip. That's going to be so nice. Yes. Very exciting for you guys. Thank you. Anything else on the agenda? We have Minneapolis show coming up. Trent will be there. Super exciting. How nice to try to take some time out of Master's Week. I sort of didn't realize that until like yesterday. Me too. I thought that in my head. I thought, wow, Trent committed to doing this the Thursday night of the Masters. Yeah. But like, when does the Masters actually start? Thursday. Oh, it starts on Thursday. I thought it was just a one day thing. It's a big game on Sunday. No, Sunday, Master Sunday. No, the Master Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Holy shit. Is he going to be getting live first round is Thursday. He thinks he's going to be distracted during the show. No, they'll be done. They'll be they'll be off the course by then. I'm actually even more honored. He's taking the time. Yeah. Maybe he didn't realize. No, I will say, though, I think that normally the four play guys go down there like for the first few days before the tournament actually starts. Like, I think that they, at least from what I've seen, because I saw such a cute video of Frankie bringing his father and his father in law to the Augusta and the whole thing. And I think they were saying, oh, you know, Wednesday. So it really starts Thursday, but I think those guys are down there before. And then they leave. So my guess is he's coming from. Is he coming from Augusta? I honestly have no idea. Has anyone spoken to I speak to Tramp but it's just us sending music back and forth. I don't I don't ask him about it. I asked Trent right now. I do. He did ask me to buy this flight so I could look. But hey, man, you and you and Augusta are in. I'm going to talk to him. You wait for updates. So you just face time. Are you an Augusta right now? Should I just face time? Yeah, just face. So you probably won't answer the course. It's Augusta. I don't know if he's there, though. Is he like because the whole thing when the Masters is it's like, it's a whole week of it. No, no, I know what I'm like. If they're in there, like there's no phones or anything, right? So. Yeah. I don't know if they are strict on a pre. Like the tournament actually starting. I'm just feeling honored for a few days. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll wait for his text back, but Minneapolis, we cannot wait to see. You guys, we're going to have such a good show. It's going to be such a fun night. Remember to bring your signs. The signs this tour have so good. Eight plus so good. Knocked it out of the park. So good, so creative. So thank you guys once again for putting in the effort of making those signs because we really do appreciate them. And I love looking back at the end of the night. I love looking back on the pictures. Same. Me too. We post because I'm like, oh my God, I see that one. Yeah, we miss some of them. Yeah, I don't see them either because all the people are kind of the upper levels I don't see. Yeah, so good. All of them. Yeah, no, I have people have the funniest ideas. And then they they're able to execute in a way that is really so good. There were some really funny ones at the last one that we didn't pick up on until until after, which was so good. But we're super excited. Can't wait to see you guys. All right, let's get into the rest of today's episode and get into the topics. We're going to be talking about the in the city trailer that just dropped. We're going to get more Amanda, Kyle, new couple drama. Blake Lively has posted on her Instagram talking about the court dismissing the sexual harassment claims made against Justin Baldoni. Chloe Feynman, weird video on Vanity Fair, talking about her as a camp counselor. Not good. Not good. Taylor, Frankie, Paul files a restraining order against Dakota, detailing alleged abuse from Dakota and Meryl Streep and Anna Wintour teamed up for a nice vogue spread. We love to see it and we have the popcorn or so let's get into it. We absolutely love our Pepsi at prebiotic cola. I have the cherry vanilla in my hand right now. It's delicious. It comes in two delicious flavors. You got the original cola and the cherry vanilla. It has that great Pepsi taste, but now with even more to love with no artificial sweeteners, only five grams of sugar, just 30 calories and three grams of prebiotic fiber. It's unbelievably Pepsi and you really can enjoy it so many different times. 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We have Andrea back on our screens with his wife, Lexi. We have Whitney Fransway, who is on the bachelor bachelor for a little bit. I think maybe she did a season of Paradise. Yes, we have Yvonne, who is Lindsay's. It's like Lindsay's real. Yeah, Lindsay's real best friend. And we'll see a little back and forth between them. We have Lindsay so well taken care of Gemma and the show. Of course, we have Amanda and Kyle. We have Danielle and her boy toy as well. So we have the full names of everybody. Lindsay, Kyle, Amanda, Danielle, Ian. That's Danielle's. Yes, right. Andre and Lexi, Nick and Yvonne, Georgina, Whitney Fransway, Kenny, Martin, Gavin, Mosley and Katie. Arendelle. Yeah, so it's a different cast, new people joining our TV screens, some familiar faces with Andrea joining, obviously Amanda, Kyle, Lindsay, Danielle, we know from Summer House. And it's an interesting time to drop this. It'll premiere May 19th, which we have now calculated in our head. What I believe to be happening is that it will be the last episode of Summer House or the part two reunion of Summer House, because if we recall, this is the Bravo play by play. This is what they do best is a lead in a lead in like they did with Beverly Hills into Vanderpump rules when we got Sheena cheating or Brandy's husband cheating with Sheena and we were like, what show are we watching right now? And turns out it was Vanderpump rules. So same with Vanderpump into Summer House. Yeah, when they when they had to, I think realistically, it's probably the Summer House finale into in the city. Yes. Before the reunion, which does mean the finale wouldn't be until May 19th. It could be the reunion. But if if they're following the formula, it would be like the Summer House finale. It would be the 15th episode. Right. Yep. Right. Or the part one of or part one or the reunion. I could see them doing like a part one reunion. You know how many part how many parts they're going to need. Right. Do it all in one fucking night. I don't want to go week to week. Give it to me all at once. I don't need the teaser. Spoil it for us. But it looks like we're not going to get a Summer House until end of May at this point, the reunion. And I think that they're not filming the reunion until end of April. I've heard rumblings now that it's in the April 20th. That some some people DM me that I said, huh, I wonder how they know. Everybody's talking. Everybody. You're right. Everybody could be wrong, too. Yeah. And unfortunately, it's like the longer we wait, the more some absolutely insane rumors. Circulate where I feel like there's just a lot of speculation because we won't know until we hear from them, which won't be till then. Until then. So we got a long ways to go. It feels so like. It feels so far away. It does. And as of right now, we are unfamiliar with most of this cast. So I think the drama that's being shown in this teaser, yes, looks interesting. But we're going to have to be bought in for us to be totally into the drama. Right now, the most interesting part of the teaser for us is seeing Amanda and Kyle's relationship on wind. They're divorced. You know, Kyle, it seems like he had people over at the apartment while Amanda was still there while they were breaking up. They're talking about how they don't have a prenup. And, you know, Amanda's like, don't come for me. I'm going to come for you. That whole back and forth. I think I was edited in this in a way to seem like it's more devious than it was because when Amanda went on Watcher Happens Live, she was like, we're fine. Like, yeah. So I think that was definitely edited to make us believe something different. But who knows if this whole thing changes changes it. Yeah. But it's interesting. It's smart marketing to drop this right now. And we'll be getting it May 19. We're getting everybody involved. I mean, they put the they put the bios for everybody on Bravo, which is interesting, because you see like what they say for Kyle and Amanda, their marriage, the demise of their marriage front and center. Kyle struggling with financial issues with Loverboy, Lindsay dealing with his new chapter as a fiercely independent single mom. Nick and Yvonne are married and he is a furniture entrepreneur known for his charm and goofball energy. He finally proposed to her, the former vice president of marketing at a high profile nightlife empire, now redefining success beyond the velvet rope after an unexpected layoff. While their marriage appears solid, underlying tensions about having children start to surface, she leans on her bestie, Lindsay for support. And Nick weighs the pressure of career and financial uncertainty as they decided they're ready to start a family. Then we got Georgina, who's a sought after dermatologist and medical director of two thriving practices. She's preparing to launch her own skincare line, also navigating single motherhood. Complicated relationship with an ex Whitney and Kenny are a couple and she's moving from LA to New York for him. That seems to be their storyline is like he hasn't proposed, but she's but she's moving. Kenny is Kyle's friend and Loverboy investor, blunt truth teller, self made real estate investor and venture capitalist. Then we got Danielle and her boyfriend, who. You know, not to just solely go off judging from the outside. Interesting looking guy. You know, well, I'm like. He looks old. Maybe he's maybe he's an older gentleman. Maybe he is. She's apparently madly in love. Their whirlwind whirlwind romance is moving at lightning speed. They're living together and navigating their fast paced love story. He's building a hotel tech startup. We got Gavin, who's a single guy fixture in New York City Night Life, launching a string of successful bars and speakeasies. Andrea and Lexi, who we know, and fresh off their first year of marriage at 34 with his parents in Italy. Andrea feels the pressure of time to start the family so that they're going to be. That's where they're all at. It's like, is it time to start a family? Not. Then we got Katie, who is. Amanda's childhood best friend. So they really did pull from like their real lives for this cast. Yeah, I remember Katie. She was on the last episode. Yeah, I think it was Katie's. I think it was Katie's wedding with the Ben. In Italy, in Italy thing, because I think that was. I think that was that. But she, yeah, childhood best friends, Katie's unafraid to challenge Kyle in a way only a rider I could, fiercely loyal. But that doesn't come without complications as Katie is also close with Danielle, who doesn't always see eye to eye with Amanda. So they really, I will say, I commend them for building out a show in a way that they all really do know each other. Like this isn't. I don't think it's going to feel forced. I think it's going to feel like, how does this person fit in here? How do they know this person? It's like, no, they all really do know each other and they all agreed to do a reality show. So I think it makes it so much better than just sort of like finding random couples and slapping them on a show. Right. And doing fake dinners and whatnot. So yeah, this will be interesting. Interested to watch and see what unfolds and, you know, we'll West will definitely be in part of it because we get a little teaser of that. I think that edit happened recently. And I guess we're like, ooh, you know, West did film a little bit. Let's make sure we put some of that in the two minutes of an episode. Let's make sure we get that in the teaser. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Moving on more reality TV talk. Taylor Frankie, Paul filed a restraining order detailing alleged abuse from Dakota. So she filed the restraining order against Dakota today. It has been reported and it's very detailed of what's happening. Yeah, not good. Not good. No. And here's the thing. This is what we had talked about when it all went down with Dakota filing and to co decide the story. It felt like these two were so are just it's so toxic between the two of them. They're both coming at each other. They're both throwing accusations left and right. They're both I'm sure there's bad behavior on both sides. But now this is Taylor's side filing this restraining order where she had to detail what had happened recently. She says that Dakota has displayed signs of crazy jealousy, stalking her, assaulting her and becoming quote increasingly possessive ahead of her debut on the Bachelorette. According to her, Dakota got her initials tattooed on the inside of his lip, something she says she found out about leading up to their February altercation. Oh my God. And while Dakota is accusing her of assaulting him in that incident, she says he actually assaulted her in that confrontation in February. She's accusing Dakota of slamming her head against the dashboard of his car while in Taylor's driveway. Even wilder. I'm reading this straight from team Z. Even wilder. Taylor says he asked her for sex right after, according to Taylor, after she denied his advantage, advances Dakota called the police on her. Oh, wow. Wow, that is very, very, very dark. Yeah, it's crazy to see this side of it. And you just you have a million thoughts that rush through your head because they're probably throwing accusations at each other. And they get to this point, they're they're in this fight. A legend altercation happens. I think that. In past years. I don't I don't I don't think it's going to sound bad, but in like past years, this is the stuff that would. Turn them on in a way. I don't know what you're saying. Like they would have these crazy fights. And then I think and then I think hook up like that's what like it would fuel these these crazy fights would happen and then they would just like jump into bed together. We seem that way on the show. Yeah, even in the show when you heard when you heard Taylor in Jesse's closet on the phone with Dakota, like so upset about him sleeping with a girl. And he's like, you know, she's like, what's what she wants all these details because she's like she openly said that she was turned on. Yeah, thanks. You're saying she was turned on. So it's just I have a like I just feel that they get into these crazy altercations. And now hopefully they're starting to realize that it it's extremely unhealthy. The way that they were handling those those things. And it's like, oh, maybe Dakota was there. They're falling back into these ways of where they'd have these crazy fights. And it would lead to them hooking up, which is just absolutely like wrong in this situation, especially if they are physically hurting each other. You know, she's claiming he's slamming her head into the dashboard. Like it's it is so bad. It's so absurd. So that is, you know, now now her side. Like I said the other day, I don't know. What exactly happens in. As this moves on, but she obviously is now is going on the offensive because it's like, well, now I'm going to. Like he filed his restraining order and that protective order. Now she's filing hers in today's proceedings. Dakota is expected to ask the court to extend his protective order against Taylor into a long term one as authorities are still investigating accusations of domestic violence. So it's I guess it's just an ongoing investigation. And now they have filed these reports against both of each other. Like and now it's it's up to, you know, I guess the police investigation on what comes out of it. Yeah, I think that this is going to be one of those things where they both have accusations and alleged abuse against each other. And so it's going to be a back and forth. And really, I it's I've kind of said this a million times now, but just like both of them should not be on reality TV. And I both think that they need to be off of it. Yeah. And so that people don't feed into this further, because I think they also both thrive on that as well, where they get the audience reaction of who's on my side, who's on her side and vice versa. So it feels even crazier to just be promoting a show with Dakota. No, it's insane. Now this comes out and there's just no acknowledgment. Right. Nothing, no, not a hi. We're just going to watch my little show on YouTube. Right. We're just going to keep them on the show. Meanwhile, this comes out. It's crazy. It is time to ditch that scratchy, dry toilet paper. It's the worst. And say hello to clean with perfectly moist, actually cleansing good wipes. 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Moving on, Chloe Feynman and the rest of some SNL cast members were doing a little vanity, what the fuck was that? Yeah, doing a little vanity fair interview and they were playing a little game of, you know, do you know me that well, that sort of game that all these places are doing. Yeah, they do it. It's very fun. They do it with a lot of cast. They do it with a lot of cast and they're doing it with SNL. And this story that Chloe Feynman told was of her as a camp counselor, pantsing a six year old boy and he wasn't wearing underwear and, you know, and they put that out, vanity fair puts that out. They see the backlash to the story. Vanity Fair then edits the story together to not include his age and some other details to make it not seem as bad. But people had already seen the unedited version with the full story where you, and by the way, you could see the entire rest of the cast face where they're like, it just got worse and worse. They just got worse and worse. And they were doing like solo cuts. Yes. To the cast reaction. So it was insane. And Chloe Feynman was like, oh, you know, it was a different time. I'm like, what does that mean a different time? She was like, any time you have to tell a story with the clarification of, hey, it was a different time. You think ten years ago, maybe don't tell the story. You know, like, and don't tell the story publicly in an interview that you're like, haha, jokie. Did you guys know this about me kind of right way? And this isn't like a two truths and a lie game. We're like two truths and a lie. I lived in Italy. I she's the only one that knew the story. Yes, she gave it to them. She just gave everyone the story. She was like, and by the way, I got fired at camp counselor because I'm a six year old kid. And then she said that the kid would like lift up her shirt. And so she wanted to get back. She's called the kid a dick, a little dick, a little dick and pulled his pants. Yes, she was a camp counselor. Six, six year old kid. You can't pull. And my and pull anybody's pants down. Draw by and sell that. Like, that's kind of traumatizing for that. And I always mess up all the cast. But what's this face was like? It like, what is happening? Like, it was just like this. Everybody was like, how old was this kid? She was like, I don't know, like six. And they cut that part out of the new. Like they just jumped to her being like, it was a different time. And they're all joking. Everyone's there. They're like, honey, I think you're on some sort of list. Like, yeah, no, I don't think this is a story you should be telling. And I don't know if they thought, oh, ha, ha, people are going to laugh at this. And then when they saw the reaction, they thought, oh, let me back track. It's crazy to me that they saw backlash and thought, well, let's just edit his name. Is it let's just edit the kids age. How that makes it better? No, I don't know. How the whole thing out? By the way, I don't know how this got even past the round of like publicist being in the room and hearing this whole story and then being like, yeah, air this, like, I don't even know how I'm going to bring to Vanity Fair. The story about how I pants to six year old as a camp. And the publicists were like, absolutely. They got fired for it. Listen, number one, this shouldn't have happened in the first place. We all can acknowledge that. Obviously, this was so wrong. Number two, she should have never told the story. Number three, who's in the room stopping this story from. Also, it's like, you don't want to play. I've seen people talking about this, too. Like the if this was a guy card, but like, imagine if the roles were reversed here and this was a guy saying he pants a little girl, but he's fired from SNL immediately. Insanity. It's not good. You guys said this last night in our group chat and I watched it and I was like, what is this going to be? And I was like, oh, I was floored. And then I rewatched it 15 times. I was like, am I hearing this story? Right. Because I also certain details you pick up on the other watch. Yeah. Well, that's what it was. Because every time I watch somebody else's face in the video, be like, wait, what is she saying? Because they you can all see them visibly get uncomfortable and want to leave the room. Like nobody wants to be a part of this little game anymore. You're and it was also weird because you're like, OK, so you're trying to justify a six year old boy who was six years old and didn't real. And you know, probably doesn't know what's wrong, what's right. And of course, like, yeah, should that six year old be lifting up your shirt? No. But do you do you pants? The kid, you definitely don't retaliate. And she didn't share how old she was. I think she was like 16. But I'm saying like, if you're a camp counselor from my general idea of camp, because I was I was never a camp kid. But I think you got to be like, I think it's like 14 plus, at least, to be a counselor. Oh, no. Yeah. Regardless, I saw someone say she was 16. I don't know if that's true. I mean, they don't they're making that. I think they would just be making that up because like, how would anybody know that? Like, how would anybody be like she was 60? How do you know she didn't say? Yeah, it was very wild. I don't think yeah. Very either way. It doesn't matter. No, it's no, it's it's ridiculous. It's like, yeah, no wonder you were fired for that. But it's not like a and she's doing like the voices. Yeah, the whole voice. Voices of like making. Oh, like it just was weird. Trying to be like, it was like an SNL bit. And it was like, wait, this is not a bit and this is not funny. And this is just really like how like I'm just picturing like when you're editing that it's like you can tell everyone in the room was uncomfortable. And you're like, yeah, let's let's still like keep this in. I don't I don't know. Also, to pass mates were like, hey, let's cut. Hey, cut. Right. And then Chloe, find a different story. Also to then edit it and put it out again, thinking nobody was going to see the original reedited is crazy, reedited. It's wild. The whole thing is so weird. If we just take out how old the kid was, that'll make it better. Yeah. No, wild. Very so so inappropriate. Let me say wildly inappropriate, just wildly inappropriate. Not a funny story. And, uh, yeah, yeah, you know, sometimes you find like sometimes. I feel like comedians do sort of. Test the, you know, they'll test the waters on a on a funny, on a funny story and whatnot. And you're like, oh, but in a in a scenario like this, where you're doing an interview and it's like your cast is just guessing if things are like. Questions about you. Mm hmm. Just come up with something else. Yeah. No, she literally gave this up herself. You know, like this isn't the place to be sharing that story. And I bet she regrets sharing it now. Yeah. Cause reaction has a not been good. Yeah, wild. Obviously. Wilds. Blake Lively has posted on her Instagram now after the court has dismissed the claims that she made. Not all of them. Not all, but a lot of them. Yeah. To Justin Baldoni. And she had a long statement that she had posted on her Instagram. She did. Did include the dragon emoji. She did. So I mean, perhaps leaning into it, who knows? But she, um, the court had dismissed. A bunch of the like sexual harassment elements, but has kept the retaliation case, which she is, she put out a statement to really commend like double down on how she feels like this is. One of the more important pieces of her case against him. She wrote, I'm grateful for the courts ruling, which allows the heart of my case to be presented to a jury next month. And for the ability to finally tell my story and full at trial for my own sake, but also for those who don't have the same opportunity to many of whom I have known and loved deeply in my life and the countless. I'll never know. The last thing I wanted in my life was a lawsuit, but I brought this case because of the pervasive retaliation I faced and continue to for privately and professionally asking for a safe working environment for myself and others. Um, she, you know, continues to, to write about how the digital attack on her was, was very real. Um, it's been abusive. It's everywhere, not just in the news, but it's, but everybody's talking about it. Uh, if you're looking, my claims will be the first or last time you'll see examples of the extreme dangers of retaliation and digital warfare. And it often won't be directed at celebrities or those who may be able to speak up, talking about how it affects all of us. Studies estimate that between 16% and 58% of women have experienced online abuse or stalking with 97% of gender based violence service providers, reporting technology, facilitated abuse in their cases. So she's really, really, uh, making sure everybody knows that she feels very strongly about this part of her case. She ended it by saying, I will never stop doing my part in fighting to expose the systems and people who speak to harm, shame, silence and retaliate against victims. I know it's a privilege to be able to stand up. I will not waste it. Dragon emoji. Yeah. The dragon emoji was a nice touch at the end there to lean into the throwback. Yeah. A little callback, a little throwback to the dragon text. Yes. So from the course ruling, it said lively has come forward with affirmative evidence supporting her claim, both with respect to the Wayfarer parties following through on their intent to spread negative content about her. And with respect to Wallace's tech, technological capabilities in doing so, there's all, there also is some direct evidence that the plan to destroy lively in her career was put into action. In addition to boosting videos from himself, a jury could find that those efforts were proactive and in line with Baldoni's desire to quote, feel like lively can be buried. A person in her position could have understood the workplace, uh, two at times reflected gender sexualized you women and a disregard for their privacy sufficient to make it reasonable to complain about a hostile work environment based on sex or gender viewed in the light viewed in the light most favorable to lively. There is also sufficient evidence that it was reasonable for her to believe that the Wayfarer party sexually harassed her by creating a hostile work environment. Given the nature of the response, a jury could find that the Wayfarer parties were motivated not just by fear of what would be disclosed, but by the protected actions lively had taken in the past. Lively has also submitted expert reports that tend to support her allegations that there was an online campaign to manipulate public opinion and discussion against her. Thus, a jury could find that the Wayfarer parties quote, waited to exact their retaliation at an opportune time. Lively has identified evidence that if credit credit could support in, in inference that Wayfarer parties took adverse employment actions against her at least in part because of her protected activity. Uh, the Wayfarer parties have not specifically contested lively subject to believe that she was discriminated against. Baldoni himself made statements suggesting he understood lively made her complaints in good faith. There is enough evidence to bring the issue of lively's protected activity before a jury. So it's like, you know, they, they have found the court has found that there is enough evidence in the retaliation case here for them to really, to, for them to really go to court. I was thinking that it's crazy that when this was all happening, we were like, May, 2026, they're going to court. It's here. That's in for, that's forever. And now you, in her note, she's like, I'm, you know, looking forward to having my day in court next month. It's here. It is here at this point. Store my hands in the air and, and seeing what happens in, in court. Yeah. I'm sure a lot more will be said. I'm sure there will be nonstop news coverage of what is happening when this does go to court and everything that Blake will say and Blake's team will say, and the lawyers will say in the courtroom, because as we know for the last year, there's been nonstop evidence being thrown in and submitted and all these things that have been made public and emails, texts, calls, posts, everything that we have, that we have seen. Um, and now, like she said, her day in court will be happening. So that's happening soon. That is happening in, in May at a reduced level. Not all because there's a lot of claims, but the retaliation case will be the one that is, uh, really the focus. 91% of dog parents say their pup is an important member of their family and 40% would even say their dog over human stranger. Safe to say people are obsessed. And if anyone gets being dog obsessed, it's Ali. 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Last topic, this was absolutely iconic. Meryl Streep and Hannah Wintour did a Vogue spread together. The pictures are so good. And we are finally seeing Anna Wintour lean into Meryl's character in the Devil Worse Prada, because when the movie first came out, the Devil Worse Prada, Anna Wintour was not into this. She didn't like it. No, she didn't like the way she was portrayed. She didn't like the whole universe of the Devil Worse Prada. Now she's leaning into it, has had conversations with Meryl saying that she trusts, trusts her implicitly. And I love that. I love to see this happening because I feel like we are now getting Anna Wintour taking herself a little bit less serious, which is always nice because she scares me. And to see Meryl and her having so much fun at these photo shoots, like these pictures are major. They are iconic. And it is a huge moment in pop culture for us to be getting this together right now. Yeah, this is such a great, this is such a great idea. And there is a video that is, it's awesome of them waiting for the elevator and they're looking at each other up and down and they're like, have we met? Like you look familiar. And they're sort of going back and forth and Anna Wintour started is naming like events. And there was a longstanding rumor that Meryl was like blacklisted from the Meccalla because of her, of this portrayal that she was never, that's why she had never been there or gone. And as like Anna's naming the event, she's like Oscar, but she's like Metcalla and Meryl as Miranda is going, oh, she was, oh, definitely not. It would be amazing if Meryl goes to the Meccalla this year as Miranda. That would be a nice little play in. See that. That would be really fun. That's a good prediction. You could be, it could be happening. I'm sure they would lean into the. Yeah, devil wears Prada of it all at the movie come out right. It's the right then, right? Right, because it'll be the first Monday of May and then devil wears Prada. I think comes out the end of April now or I forgot the exact date. Oh, May 1st, so it'll be that weekend. Oh, that is, I mean, yeah, yeah, that writes itself. We got May 1st and then Friday, May 1st and then Monday, May 4th is the Meccalla. Yeah. Yeah, put that one. I'll put that. What can we bet on that? Yeah, we're betting on that. And if I'm wrong, then they missed out on great marketing. Yeah, that would have been amazing because I feel like the devil wears Prada. Like they're really leaning into the promo for this right now. And there's a lot of. Campaigns, there's a lot of. What's the word I'm looking for crossover? A lot of crossover integration integration. There's a lot of integration happening right now of the characters and real life and the fashion industry and all these things. To promote the movie. He just did a agent. Grenier just did a did you see it? He did a Starbucks commercial and he's like. He's talking about how Nate didn't get asked back to do the movie. He didn't because people didn't like everyone hated everyone hated me because they were like, you're not. He was a bad boyfriend. You don't want to need to be back. Okay, here's here's the thing. Yeah, he wasn't supportive of her and her job. She did miss a lot of Nate's events. But yeah, he didn't see the vision. He didn't. And I think that yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, I agree. Like there were part of things. No, but I mean, like the thing is like there were some instances like his birthday and everything where you're like, you know what, but an understanding boyfriend supportive would be like, it's okay, honey, we'll celebrate a different time. Yeah, he was kind of like a little bit. He was like a little bitch about it. Yes. And he, yeah, he had a little toot about it. All times and he like held it against her. It wasn't like, oh, this sucks that you missed it, but we'll like work. We'll make it up. Yeah. It's not even now that he padded about it. He was pretty whiny. He was pretty whiny and had no understanding of really, because I don't think he wanted to understand how competitive and intense her job was. No, they weren't meant to be. And they was better off that way. No, but the commercial was very funny. It's like, they threw him in there and then he made a little knot at the end. He was like, I mean, like if they, like if they call me, you know, they call me I'm available. Right. He is like only hot and entourage. Does that make sense? Yeah. Well, like he was hot as Nate. I always thought I always thought he was hot. I just think Vinny Chase, like he's just. Yeah. Well, the unfortunate thing was anytime he was in anything else, it did just seem like it was Vinny Chase. Right. You know, like it was like, but then it only, he was only Vinny Chase. Yeah. He was the entourage world. Yeah. Yeah. You know, yeah. He can only be so nonchalant as Vinny Chase. Right. When he got into other roles, everyone was like, all right, Vinny Chase is like sort of a bad actor. He hasn't done too many other things, I feel like recently, but he has been asked nonstop about it because they're like, oh, the movie. So I feel like he's had to talk about Nate a lot. So this was smart too. It's like, hey, if you're going to, if you're going to be asked nine million times about this character and how this character has been left out of the sequel, right? At least get your bag at that big commercial. Yeah. And here's the thing, like, yeah, they broke up. He wasn't invited back. Yeah. They didn't do it. She moved on. Right. It's also like, I don't think. Not everyone does that. I don't think anybody would have wanted Andy to be back with. No, no one's like, yes, Andy, get back with Nate. We were like, right. She's like this, you know, high power professional at this point, going back to working with Miranda. And she's like, oh, by the way, Nate's at home cooking grilled cheese. Hey, maybe he turned supportive and stay at home husband. Maybe they'll, maybe they'll be like a mention of him, like not that he's in it, but maybe they'll be like, oh, he's like an executive chef in Paris or something. I ran into Nate in Paris. You know, I don't, I don't see him, but he fulfilled his dream of being a chef and he's got this big restaurant. He's too busy now, you know, or they completely write him down or they just never made it. And he's out of history. He never made it. Like the chef, it didn't just didn't happen. I know, but it is so fun seeing them do this shoot, having them. It just all makes sense. And I'm glad, like you said, that Anna starting to lean into it. You know, I always say Anna and I know it is Anna, but she just seems like an Anna. Really? Yeah. It's always been Anna. No, always, but just her aura. Well, that's like the Ralph Lauren for Ralph Lauren. Right, right. Right. Like exactly. It's like, you want to make it a little fancy and you just see them. So you go, oh, Anna Wintour. But everyone's always said Anna. It's Anna. Yes. Yeah. I never thought of it like that, but I get what you're saying. But I wonder if sometimes she's like, I'm on. She has that it's a very specific accent that she has, you know, I'm on a Wintour. Yeah. Like, yeah, Ralph Lauren. People are, yeah. No, it's Ralph Lauren. Yeah. When people say Ralph Lauren. People are like, he's from Queens. Yeah. He's actually Ralph Lauren. Just straight up. Just straight up. I've definitely always been Ralph Lauren. No, for a while, I definitely said it. 100% I think I throw it. Well, because because you went through a phase around maybe like high school-ish time? Guys? Guys? It's Ralph Lauren. You're like, oh, is it? I've been saying it. No, I was like, I'd be like, yeah, oh, I don't know fashion. This is like when in Kris Jenner, the way she says all the designer names, that's such a funny clip of the Kardashians. Yeah, the Louis Vuitton. Louis Vuitton. Louis Vuitton. So good. Yeah, this was amazing, iconic. And that wraps up today's topics. There's nothing better than having friends who support you and your passions, just like that one friend that goes with you to watch that new indie movie everyone is raving about, or if there's a celebratory cake, when you finally get that dream home, State Farm is there to help you along the way. State Farm agents can help you choose coverage, whether it be for your home, car, boat, motorcycle, or even RV. With a State Farm agent, you know someone is there to help protect what's important. And with so many coverage options, it's nice to have help finding what fits for you. So you can continue catching up on all the latest pop culture moments with your friends. 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And do you really think that influencers like Alec Earl would really turn out to be even bigger than a George Clooney? Not sure if this is all making sense, but are you touching my drift? Would love to hear what you guys think and love you. Love you, Lila. I am catching your drift. You're catching my drift, we're catching it. I'm catching it. I think that there is like a cut off and I think it is sort of a little bit after the year I was born. So I was born in 1997. And I think 2000 and on, it's really a toss up if they know certain celebrities, musicians, movies. Like sometimes I'll see Mubi and Smelly have no idea about someone that we're just like, oh, obviously that person is so famous. You know, like there's just a certain cut off at some point. Now. But I think this is banned through, I was like, I don't think this is a new thing. I think this has always been the case. I think there's just, I don't think it's necessarily influencers versus like A-list celebrities now because they're all considered celebrities. Like these influencers to a younger generation, like they are their celebrities. So like they're just all put in the celebrity category. It's like, you know, there's celebrities that my mom would have been like obsessed with in the 80s that if you asked me when I was 10 to 16, if I knew who they were, like some guy on Melrose place, I'd be like, I have no fucking clue who that is, you know? I think it also brings up the discussion of, you know, the two names, Alex Orle and George Clooney. If we're in a restaurant, right? And we see Alex Orle sitting at a table, whoa, like, oh shit, okay, cool. We see George Clooney. I'm fucking fainting at the table. You know what I mean? Like we're, it is like, holy fuck. But on the opposite end of that, somebody younger is probably gonna have that reaction towards Alex Orle. Oh, the flip, yeah, for sure. And George Clooney, they'll look at their parents and go, oh, who, it's like some old guy. But I feel like she's also saying like in like 30 years from now, is it just gonna be, is it gonna like, is the pendulum gonna like sway to the, where no one cares? No, I don't think so because there'll be a new age of A-list celebrities to them. Like they're, like, yeah, like they're A-list celebrity will be, will be Timothy Shalemade, these younger. But I also think that those people have to be online kind of so they almost are like dipping their toes. Like Timothy Shalemade, that whole Marty Supreme, that was like, that was like as if he was an influencer. Yeah, Mark did it a bit younger. Yeah, they kind of have to play into that now because that's how you're gonna grab their attention. So yeah, it's interesting, but I do think what Fran said is right in the way that like, yeah, kind of the same thing when we were younger and didn't care about certain actors. Like I mean, I remember- Yeah, generational things. My parents going crazy over Goldie Hawn and when I was younger, I didn't get it. Now I can appreciate Goldie Hawn because I'm like, oh my God, wow, legend also. That is Kate Hudson's mom. Like, and there's, you know, you figure out all that. But you appreciate more when you grow up. When you grow up and you actually sit down and watch the projects that these people have done because now you're like, if a 12 year old is like, I've seen all of George Clooney's movies, I'd be like, that's weird. Right. Yeah. Like borderline inappropriate. Yeah, you're not at that age yet. And I think eventually you grow up, you start to watch old things, you see new things. And you're like, oh, you can understand the impact that these people have had. But because this younger generation is so online, the obsessiveness over the newer age celebrity is just so strong. I don't think it means that they won't care about the big movie stars. I just think they're gonna really care about them all. But the influencers are the ones that feel the most like approachable to them. They have the most access to them and seeing they're alive. So yeah, like you see Alex on the street, a girl's gonna run up and know everything about her and want a picture and all these things compared to walking down the street. And you see Jennifer Aniston, you're like, oh my God, but you don't have that access. I've heard that, sir. You're like, I can't go up to Jennifer Aniston. So yeah. Hi guys, I would just like to make a point here. All of this drama that's coming out with the Mormon Live, specifically Jesse, these girls don't drink. So they are making these choices and so are like, Jesse with Marceano, Jesse kissing Jase. Like you're doing this sober. I think Taylor might have been drunk with the different violent stuff, but imagine if these girls drink what the drama would look like. Like this is crazy that this is all going on without an outlet alcohol. I think that all the time, but don't, this doesn't, some of them drink. Does Jesse drink? Jesse does. Jesse, cause right there's some that, cause Jesse sort of left the Mormon. Yeah. I don't know though, pretty unclear. Has consumed alcohol? So don't know if she's actively drinking. But it's not like, I don't think it's like someone who never drinks alcohol. But you do bring up a good point because honestly when I watch this show, that completely escapes my brain that they don't really drink. And oh my God, you're right. Can only imagine like think of the reality shows that we get where people are drunk all the time fighting. Like I cannot imagine. Did you see Michaela post a video? She posted a video on Instagram. Shards on TikTok too. But it was like Eminem, her and Macy after driving over four hours to prove that Krusty Man was lying and now they're hanging out. I roll emoji. Eyes emoji about Jesse and Marciano. And her caption was, I love you, but you're way too hot for this crying face emoji. And Jesse commented, okay, but you're not single. So dot, dot, dot had to find someone else. And then Jesse's going back and forth of the people in the comments. She were, I'm so single just having fun. What's what dating is doesn't mean I'm in a relationship and won't be for a long time. Macy comments, looks like we're gonna have to take out the trash again. Oh shit. So we're like, what is this stirring up for? Like what are you guys getting us all going for? They know this is how they even got the show in the first place. I know so pick up the cameras. I don't know how this doesn't cause them anxiety. You know what I mean? They love leaning into online drama. Totally and they're talking about their friends. But that's why I wonder, then it just all comes across so fake, you know? That's true, that is true. Then it just comes across so fake. It's getting a little bit tiresome right now. Right now it's getting a little bit repetitive with the drama and it's almost like. They're all making jokes about it. Jesse's commenting, Macy's commenting. It's like, are they all just in the group chat beforehand like hey I made this video, what should I caption? Like people are gonna go crazy. Rayleigh, you go comment and I'll comment, yeah who knows. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Therapy isn't about financial advice. It's about managing the stress, shame or anxiety that can come with it. Therapy can help people unpack their relationship with money, build healthier coping strategies and feel less alone in the process. BetterHelp therapists work according to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the US. BetterHelp does the initial matching work for you so you can focus on your therapy goals. 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Like I know their behavior is wrong, but is it like, oh my God, he should never work again? Because of it, you know? And we had to watch Tom Sandoval in 90 different shows. No, this isn't like job ending. Like they shouldn't have jobs anymore. I don't think they should be. Like I don't think West should be fired from his job. Right. No, like you, like hooking up with someone that you shouldn't or whatever does not mean bad moral judgment. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't have a job anymore. So I think just like time because their job, I guess in some way is to be likable. Right. When you are an internet personality, your job is to be likable and for people to want to watch and follow you. So they could still do that. Are people going to watch and follow them? Time will tell. I think time heals all in these sort of situations where if they kind of like weather the storm and push through and keep, you know, working, then eventually I think it comes back around. I mean, like you said, Tom Sandoval was on 500 million different shows. Guys fucking on singing on America's Got Talent were pricy. And people did, people did enjoy Tom Sandoval on Traders. Like, yeah, yeah. And maybe to laugh at and not with. But this is a situation where I like they didn't murder somebody. They don't. It's not like, oh, my God, they need to be fired. No, yeah. And it's like, I don't know. I find this with a lot of these Bravo scandals that everybody loses their mind over. It's salacious. It's juicy. You want to know the details. You want to talk about it with all your friends. But when it gets so extreme that it's like these people's lives should be ruined forever because of this. Then I'm like, ah, like backped a little bit. Amanda's it's a little more interesting to me because, yes, while she has her. Different ventures that she has done and, you know, like the bathing suit thing and being online, reality star is really her job. And so there she's going to have a new show. But once again, it's like another thing of that is so much more based on public opinion. And if people want to watch you as a reality TV personality, which is which is different because it's like. Who knows what's going to happen with Summer House? But if they're all back in the house this summer, that dynamic is is crazy. Do they rework it? Do they not? Or if they all go back and see what happens? I don't know. I mean, we watched Kristen and Jax for how many more seasons after Kristen fucked Jax and it was 100 percent. So like 100 percent. Were we a fan and be like, yes, no, but people were were watching them on TV. Yeah. So no, it's a bit of a switch is why I'm like, Amanda could still very much be on reality TV and continue that journey for herself and see what she wants to do in that world. I don't know what her other, you know, aspirations are on anything else that she wants to do. While, yes, we watch West on reality TV. He does, you know, the podcast thing, the hosting stuff that like he's also so much in the sports world that there's like a pivot of like, oh, well, if Summer House is a dead end now and I blew up my reputation on Summer House, there is something else that he can do that. Well, yes, he will face public backlash for a while. Eventually it's down. Eventually it'll die down. And same with Amanda. It's like if she wants if they keep doing in the city and if that's a massive success and see what happens there or whatever, whatever she wants to do next, it'll it'll die down. I don't think it's like, well, we should like that. It's over for them. Yeah. No, I think that there is a path whichever way you you kind of just have to keep going and see what makes reality TV juicy. It's like they have now you want to see how they all handle something like this. And there has been many of times where somebody does something on reality TV that is messed up and then they return for a couple more seasons and then people end up liking them a couple seasons down the line, you know, years of years down the line. So you just never know what could happen. Right. And it's hard to it's hard to really say now when we haven't heard from either of them, like we don't know what their what their vibe is going to be. We don't know if it's like if they're going to own up to it, if they're not, if they're going to be like assholes about it. Like that changes it all so much. Right. So with how they show up to the reunion, like and that'll be a big tell on, I think, how the public sees them going forward. But we don't have those answers right now because we don't know. Yeah. How they proceed going forward will be a big indicator for, I think, the future for them. So. All right. 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