"Jeremy Allen White"

Hi, good morning. Good morning, everybody. Good morning to you. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Oh, or a good evening for maybe some of our listeners. It could be an evening lesson. I'm just saying, depending on where you are, good that time of day. I think most people listen to this show during the day or during the night. You know what? That's a really great question. And we'll get to it right after this all new episode of Smurlus. God, smart. Smart. Blast. Smart. Blast. I will say in the blind right now, my wife said to say to the guest that she loves them. So I don't know who this is, but just know. Oh, because she told my house loves you already. Yeah, yeah, because we'll talk to my wife more than I do. And it's something we should get into. Hi, Willie. Let's go there now. Let's go there now. Will, why do you talk to my wife so often? You talk to her as if I don't want to say some of these crashes. There's something going on. But it's a, so let's talk. I'm married to her. I'm married to her and I live with her. And I talk to her X amount. You talk to her X plus amount. So where does that put your relationship? Well, let me just say this. Is there something going on? Don't ask me point blank. I ask you a kind of an nuanced way. I'm just saying don't ask me point blank because you don't like to lie to me. I don't like lying. Okay. If you were to cheat on one of your friends wives, would you, would I be in the running? Or husband's. You be, yeah, you have been in the running. Sorry. You were sorry. Well, I'm not a cool friend. About Amanda or you are the running. Well, I thank you. It's a compliment to you that I love your wife. No, I do love your wife so much. And she, she and I have a special, she and Sean have a special relationship as well. Are you talking to us from a gorgeous new place in New York? Not new. No, no, no. I'm just in that same place. The rental? Yes, sir. But did you not just get another new kind of maybe, yeah, maybe did, maybe I did that. You might ask me to stay there. Can we stay there when we come visit? But not. You have a place here. Oh, that's right. That's right. It's uptown though. I'm sorry. Shall we take a break? We'll just, yeah, Sean. We'll just give you a minute. Are you still on lunch? We're not back yet. Snickerdoodle. Fuck, man. It's not sorry. It's just 1130. I know. I know I have, I have a late lunch. By the way, I just had a chicken wrap and a snickerdoodle and glass of milk. Wait, wait, but you just said you have a late lunch coming up. Yeah, coming up. Right. So why are you eating, why are you eating lunch food? Let me just add nice dessert. Let me clean. Well, no, this is tying you over at 1130 to what times your lunch? Two, two o'clock. Oh my god. So you're going to eat dinner at 230 at 5. Kind of like it's like I'm going to be a weird thing because then who wants to eat at 5 or 6 when I normally eat? Are you paralyzing these days? Are you, are you in the powerlifting? What's happening? You got a big contest coming up. I would love if you just stood up in your legs, your glutes and everything were just popping. You know, I think I recognize that snickerdoodle from the country mark. No, I had one this weekend. Oh, yeah, no, they're pretty big. I do like it. Snickerdoodle. It's really good. What's your current favorite cookie, Willie? It's always always, it's current and always chocolate chip cookie. Yeah, always for each search of the best chocolate chip cookie. Yeah, yeah. You know, you know, you know, I like, I like a nice peanut butter cookie because they're usually soft and gooey in the middle. They're often too dry for me. Oh, you remember, we were on the set of, is this thing on coming out or it's already out, I think. Oh, that's a movie. And it's a movie there folks. And the craft service lady made fresh chocolate chip cookies. Remember those well? And it was like, I know I couldn't believe it. And you're like, boy, that smells really good. Oh, sounds like someone on the set was honoring the fact that it was an on camera job. Sean. Not me. I ate like five of them. You still eat like you're doing a podcast? That's right. Eat like you're doing a podcast. That's really good. Hey, kudos to us on the podcast. Oh, yeah. We just found out today. We got a little golden glow tonight. And I want, we did it. And I want to say, I want to say a lot of it has to do with our friends Michael Terry, Bennett Barber Cow, and Rob Armour. Yes. Those guys, these are the wins beneath our wings. Yeah, that's why that's why I'm happy. I'm happy for those dudes because of how hard they work and we love them so much. And thank you guys. We love you. We don't need to hear from you. We love you. Yeah. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. or something like that. I would love to, but I'm not gonna be, yeah, I can't. I love to. But Robin Bennett and Michael should go in her stead. That's what I- No, you're both coming. Wait a little man to get the hold of you both. I know, by the way, she already did. Yeah. Willie, maybe we fly back together just for the night. Yeah, there you go. Well, we'll talk about it. All right. Oh, guys, the one thing I do wanna mention before we go, and I wanna say that we wanna let you know about a new Smart List Media show that is celebrating the world's dumbest criminals, right? You wanna let the audience know. You know what I mean? Yeah. You shot an I or well aware. This is a great little child of Smart List Media, little baby called Crimeless. Okay. It's called Crimeless. It's crimeless. It's by journalist Josh Dean and comedian Rory Skolval. Yeah. What do they do? What do they do? What do you mean? Every week, Josh tells Rory a story or two or three, you know, about some ridiculous stranger than fiction crime, starring some of the most hilarious thing, Dungs, that you guys could possibly imagine. I want you to think of like, you know, like Cohen Brothers films, but it's real, you know, crimeless. It's like dumb, Dums. It's like crime, dumb, dumb, fucking crime. It is. It's like fucking like stage deaths and like pretend, hitting in their drugs. Yeah. You got it. Like insurance. Like insurance. But done by idiots. Wow. Yeah. People they don't know how to pull it off. You know, okay. So we got new episodes of this and when are they coming up? People were like, I wanna get there. I wanna get there. When does it come to that? When would you wanna hear it? You'd wanna hear it on a hump day, right? You'd wanna just to get you through the week. Yeah. Wednesday, perfect, on a hump day. Yeah. A hump day is a marvelous day. And wherever you get your podcasts, crimeless. Okay. So. Hey Will, you feeling good about your guest? I'm feeling really good. In fact, I wanna say, speaking of which, our guest is a Golden Globe nominee, freshly minted. I think he has a couple. Yeah, that's right. Guys, we have somebody who is O'Currant, as they say. He's a, he's a, he's a, a very, he is an award-winning celebrated actor. He says O'Currant. I do. I'm not French. I'm French people. You know him is, a lot of people know him as, as Karmie. From his acclaimed FX series. Very sick. Okay. He's, he's earned him an Emmy, a Golden Globe Saga Award for Best Actor. He was just nominated for Golden Globe for Delivery from nowhere. You guys, it is. Mr. Jeremy Gallen, why? All right. You know, I will second my wife's love for you. Now that I see you. Everybody's love for you. My dad. And not only that, not only that, Jeremy, before he start welcoming, he's also, he was also my surprise guest for our rain-down Hollywood goal. Yeah, I just found that out. I just found that out. That was huge. Yeah. This is, this is, this is not as good as loving up on you on the Hollywood ball stage, but we'll take it. We'll take it for sure. Okay. I'm so happy to see you guys. I was just texting Amanda as you guys spoke about her. Oh, everybody's having fun, man. Yeah. Everybody sleeping with Amanda. Let me, Jason, let me say, and I mean this to the most her intuitive. That's going to be it. Jason, I mean this in the most friendly way. A friendly, friendly, and I mean this in a non-but your wife really gets around, to texting people. To texting people around. Yeah, yeah, she's been, let me finish. Yeah. God is what I said to her. Yeah. Listen. She's a lover. She's a real lover. She's a lover. Jeremy, welcome. Jeremy, welcome. Jeremy, welcome. It's so nice to meet you. I'm happy to meet you. Yeah. Congrats on the nomination. You guys have never met. Yeah, congrats on the nomination and showing you and Jerry Elinwight have never met. Never met, but I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan. And when you meet them, you'll be in love, I'm serious. I thought the eating thing, also I listened to the show a lot. I'm a subscriber, all of it. I thought the eating thing was like a bit, a bit, but it's all a bit. It's all a bit. No, a lot of it's time. I couldn't believe it. I'm a milk too. I bet you got milk right there. I'm not the real. I'm serious. Jeremy, here's one thing. First of all, Sean, enough with the fully worked. You need to keep it in your chest. Take it out of the fucking eye. You're an appholder. No, I'm keeping it fresh. I'm keeping it fresh. What do you mean fresh? In a paper bag? There's a wax paper that's open on one end. How was that keeping it fresh? Went from six minutes and you're taking the evening to eat it. Can you grab a hat? What's going on with your hair? I know. Sorry. It's like you're going to catch on fire in a second. I got a product for Christmas. We're going to get Jan to send some Lola V over. She should have an emergency crew. I'll call her on Smartless Mobile to get me some Lola V. Very smart. Very smart. Hey, Jeremy, where are you today? Where do we find you? I'm in Los Angeles. I just got back the other day. I was in Vancouver for a little while. I'm in Los Angeles. You went in office in your house? Yeah, it's like I tried to make it in office, but it just becomes kind of storage. How do you feel about that AC unit that's sticking out of the wall? I mean, they work, right? They work really well. No, I'm wearing the hat right now. It's like my house is falling apart. Nothing really works here. I got that put in recently. It doesn't work. So it's pretty chilly in here. But this is like a separate kind of room, not a guest house. There's nothing in here. Other than that, that's a good thing. That's a good thing. Yeah, the pieces are great. Can you give us a solid? I'm not laughing right now. No, no. Is that a chef's apron behind your left shoulder? Yeah, yeah. I've got the chef's apron. It's like a collection of little stolen things. Everybody needs a spot for you. And Jeremy, you can tell us those stories into the mic. That would be great. Oh my god. I like, I like Jesserin. Can you guys hear me? Now we can. Okay, good. So Jeremy, I want to get, I finally want to put the Amanda issue to bed again. But Amanda, when I knew that you were coming on to our live show, Amanda was so, Amanda and she was so excited because she had explained to me that you and Jason are kind of new-ish friends in the last week. Yeah, that's sweet. We got you. Yeah, yeah. We've seen each other a couple times now. Couple times. Cool. You're exciting. JB Coolant. Yeah. No, no, no, no. I feel the same. I feel the same way. That's really exciting. Tell me how this new fan, I love new male friendships and how they start. Yeah, how did this start, Jeremy? I want to hear Jeremy's tell. Well, it was Jamie, who I think is friends with everybody. Jamie is right. I love him. You set us up a great, great connector. Yeah, she set us up. We went to see some movies over at the house first. So we had like a group hang first to make sure that everything felt. It wasn't awkward. It felt right into a comfortable. Yeah, yeah. But then we got to go, we went to a Dodgers game, which was really hard. That's really hard. It was just the two of us. Always happens there. Yeah. Like an hour long ride. So it gets on the first one free. Yeah. And then next to me for a few hours, I've got the radio in one ear. So it's still not super pressured, you know. Yeah, it's true. Well, and also you don't have to fully connect with the person. You don't have to be too vulnerable. You've got something going on. Yeah, exactly. Did you get to sit on the side of the ear that had the thing in it or not? No, no, no, no. He's always, how dare you, Sean? He's done that. No, I'll open you. I've had both. You've had both. Sean went to the playoff of the longest baseball game in playoff history. Oh, yeah. We'll go really exciting. I mean, yeah, I was thinking about you a lot during, oh, last year. I went last year of the World Series. But Sean went this year. Yeah, it was great. I loved it. Even though it was 18 and a little more enthusiasm next delivery. I really did love it. I love going. He really got thrown in the deep end though there with that 18 and a game. I learned a lot. Yeah, I don't know a lot about baseball. Jeremy, you must have learned a lot from hanging out with an older dude. Yeah. Because I know that he's always looking to, we call him Dracula, because he's always looking to suck the young blood. He said he's always, he's like, I need, I need, I need, I worked on my outfit for a couple of days. I need to get me some youth. I need to get an injection of youth. Yeah, I went for a, I went for a looser cut on my gene that, that day. I don't know if I'm good for that. Yeah, I'm not sure. Did you get anything? I did. I picked up on a couple of things. I, I don't really want to reveal it here, but maybe on our next date, you'll see. You've seen improvements. But did you find JB saying a lot of stuff like that sounds pretty dope, dude? Yeah. And I think I got like, that's fire. That's so fire. A couple of things were, a couple of things were sus. And, and Jeremy definitely had a lot of ris. Yeah. That day. Wait, Jeremy, so I don't know anything about you. Where did you grow up? I grew up, I grew up in Brooklyn, New York. Oh, see now because of the show, I think Chicago. Like Chicago. Like that, you know, not that the show is real, but I thought that it was real. No, no, no. That makes sense. I also, I did a show before the bear also set in Chicago. So I've been on like a Chicago set show, really my whole adult life. That's what God. That's what God is. So I understand. And you don't shoot the show in Chicago. Sean's always wonder what Tom Selik felt about growing up in Hawaii. We shoot, we shoot all of the bear in Chicago, yes. Yeah. Tommy a sir. Oh, just help me. We got to get Tom up to show. We got to get Tom so I can dispel that. But you got to do try. Tiger hat. No, what's one of your parents from the train? So Jeremy, did you eat the food in Chicago? Where your parents from, did you? Jeremy, Jeremy, all your time in Chicago, did anybody ever bring up Glenn Ellen? No, not once. Let me ask you, let me ask you this, did you eat Portillo's? Yes, I love Portillo's. Isn't it great? Portillo's great. Will if you could just back the gum off the mic. Yes. The chocolate shake is you. The chocolate shake is the missions. Yeah, it's incredible. From Portillo's, Sean was waxing on about it before we went to Chicago. And we're like, okay, okay. And then that chocolate shake arrived. And I was like, this is the real thing. It's a cake shake. It's great. Oh, and Jason, by the way, Jason mentioned the cake shake, Portillo's cake shake in Ozark. And he didn't remember that. Yeah, no, I don't remember that either. That's why he was in a block out at the time. Maybe, he would do you want to address these rumors? Okay, so wait. Go ahead. All right, so Sean, you were happy they put the cake in a shake. Have you ever asked them to do it in an IV? Like that would really just get it straight to the bloodstream. So, so Jeremy, we're in Brooklyn. We're in Brooklyn. We're, we're just learning how to read and write, we're watching. You're parents were in the theater. You're when you're a kid. Is that true? That's true. That's true. Absolutely. And they say to you, just as you're learning how to read and write, hey, here's why you read this play or, you're right, the lot of what did start that early. How did you get started? No, no, they weren't, they weren't particularly pushy with all that. You know, when I was a kid, I had a lot of energy and I think they just wanted to get rid of the energy. So I played sports and that wasn't enough and I did dance, which was kind of my first like getting on stage and performing sort of thing and dance. And yeah. So I did ballet, ballet tap and jazz for a long time in New York. That's great. Can you still do it? I can, I can look like I can do, I mean tap was my favorite. Yeah. And I can shuffle a little bit, but no, it's been a long time. But when you're at a party and there's a dance floor, like to me, that's, it looks like a quick sand pit, like a woof, watch out, don't get anywhere near it. Like I've got an allergy to it. Are you thinking like, okay, all right, there's my plan for a little bit later on. Like are you excited to dance? There was a time, like in my mid 20s, I had in LA and New York, like a dance spot for almost every night of the week. Oh my god. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Not like ballroom dancing, but like there was like a dancer self clean night and there was a spot in the middle. There was a spot in Chinatown. There was like an 80s night. There's a level of confidence to your dancing that it actually, it's something that you look forward to. And this is a, it's a bit of a, it's a little bit of a flex. Like you've, I don't want to put you on the spot, but where's your mouth? But it's not something you avoid. Let's put it that way. It's not something I avoid. I like to dance. Yeah, I'll say it. Hollywood is going to go nuts for you because you're straight and you can dance. They're going to put you in so many ways. Yeah, wait till Hollywood gets a notice of you. Yeah, you're going to do great. No, Matt. Get out of here. No, I've met like, what's that Ryan Gosting movie? Oh, Lolloland. Yeah, Lolloland. Yeah. Jeremy, you know what I'm going to do. Let's say, let's say it's a Tuesday night and you know of a place in New York, you're like, all right, I'm going to go out. There's like a 70s dancing and you've got your new buddy, JB, and it's late for you. Oh, man. Cause it's nine o'clock and he's a little nervous about how long it is. Yeah, let's go to the disco. What would I would? What could you teach him how to dance? Do you think? Please. Yeah, I mean, there was a place sway in New York. They had the Smiths night and I think you could do that right? Oh, I love that. I love that. Well, you dance, miss. Yeah, it's like Smith's cute. You're like, you know, you can, you could figure it out. Yeah. Wait, how old are you? Jason, you shut your mouth. How can you say I go about things the wrong way? Right. So I can just sort of just rock it sway as opposed to boogie. I'm not that much, but you've got boogie moves, yeah? I mean, I feel like the boy talked about someone's really going to try to get me. But you got me. I was looking for something. I can dance. Yes. I've got some rhythm. I can dance. I can dance. Yeah. Very jealous. And I'm sure you could do it, Jason. Yes. So you're singing and dancing as a kid, which you've continued into adulthood. And then what happened? You start doing theater? Yeah. So I joined the, I did, I joined the kind of a new school in middle school in seventh grade. And I joined the dance program naturally, because I've been doing that for a while. But I didn't find the class took dance seriously enough. Oh, boy. I didn't feel the teacher took it seriously enough. Wow. And so I switched to the drama program. Did you have like warmers on at the time you were in the middle school? Yeah, I was stretching. I had the warmers on. I did the whole thing. And I just just think they were taking it. You're a big boat, Ned Boller. My belly was showing. These thought people. But I just didn't think they took it seriously, though. I mean, it sounds ridiculous. But at the time, I was like, this doesn't feel, you know, they're not taking seriously enough. And I found a drama teacher at this school, John McNany, who took things so seriously. And some of my best friends were in this school already in this class. And yeah, my first time acting was like in a little black box at this school in Brooklyn, this middle school in Park Slope. And I remember getting on that stage for the first time and really feeling like a sense of, I don't know, like focus or presence or something that I hadn't been able to find. Like a real like ease. Did you feel anything from the audience? Was it a comedy? Did you get a laugh? Did you get a drama? Did you feel that you'd move them? It was no funnily enough. It was like an exercise where we had to have two actors where a monologue was being performed, but there were two actors on stage. And I was the actor not speaking. And a dream job. And yeah. But it was amazing to feel like if you could feel focused on the person across from you and really be listening. And I felt a tension on me, even in silence, just kind of like focusing on somebody else. And I felt like, I don't know, my mind wasn't racing. I was an eight. Like there is something and still that's why acting so much. Like I find I'm so ahead of myself a lot of the time or anxious or, you know, and then when I'm on set or performing, there's like a real like simplicity or focus or something happens that's really interesting way to put it on. Yeah. Do you have like a little bit of ADD or something like that? For sure. Yeah, same. And then when I'm doing this, I'm working on this play right now and it's a monologue. It's 40 pages. And I find that when I have the one thing like you're saying to focus on, it actually calms my mind a little bit. Everything else gets kind of quiet or something really nice. And so interesting. Oh, Sean, you would describe yourself. Sean is having a little bit of ADD. Did you say 40 pages? It's a one-man show. It's another way to put a one-man show. He's learning a lot. I can't believe they're bringing puppetry of the penis back. That's so exciting. Where is the show? At Studio Sea View, which is John Kuzinski just did a show there last summer. Oh, cool. Which is great. Yeah. When does it go up? January 31st, it opens. I can't make that. That's fine. I know. I think that's previews, Stargain, and through. Anyway, but I know what you mean about it being you being able to focus. It gives you something to focus on that you can put all your energy towards as opposed to. It's just a feeling very like scatter. That's where my brain works. I feel very scattered and... Same. And we will be right back. This is a paid ad by BetterHelp. You know, you've heard me talk a lot about my mom and how funny she was and how much we love her. But boy, was she a huge inspiration to me. 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He would wake up, he lived near the school, and he would come to school with like nosebleeds when we were doing dressers. Like he was so in it and focused and you know, he really cared. He was in something. He cared very much about it. And he would send me out on like you go to backstage, which is like you know where you could do open casting calls. And I got my first couple jobs going on. Too backstage, that's great. No way, that's so rad. What was the first one, do you remember? I did this off, off, off Broadway play called The Present. And that was kind of my first job. I think we got paid. I hope we got paid. But yeah, that was my first job. It was like on the Upper West Side. And you were in middle school. That was in middle school. Wow. And then I think I got a commercial maybe. And then my first movie, they came to do an open casting call at the school. And a great casting director, Cindy Tolin, was casting that film. And she told me you know, we don't know if this movie is ever going to come together. It'll take a long time. It was a very small budget film. But she said, you know, you're good at this. And you should really audition more. And so she wrote me a really great letter to take around to agents and stuff. So I ended up getting an agent. That's great. Yeah, thank you, Cindy Tolin. Was singing ever a part of this? I forgot. No, it was not. No, no, just dance. Yeah. So then musical theater was never really a draw or a temptation. But how about now? Now that you've taught yourself how to sing? I mean, your performance is so mind blowing in the Springsteen thing. I don't want to embarrass you. We don't have to talk about it because I'm tired of talking about it. But it's just effing incredible. And the fact that you learned how to sing in someone else's voice on top of that. And learned how to play guitar, I think too. You did learn how to play guitar for this role? To take a look at that. And these look like I could handle it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, incredible. It's kind of a huge nerds taken that on and doing some great job. Yeah, Jason was telling was going on and on about how, I'm so sorry, I haven't seen it yet, but it's not my luck just where. Well, this is where, but Jason was just raving about your performance I mean, it's never been, I mean, I have no issue and I've enjoyed musical theater, but it's never been like in high school, I went to a performing arts school and I would do theater, but it was usually kind of straight plays and stuff. And yeah, I don't know. I've never had that draw to be in it. I've been a fan of it. But you wouldn't run if somebody brought you something. Let's say like the new Hamilton kind of thing. Or like a Shawn would mention for 50 times, La La Land. La La Land. Jesus. What's your mirror? La La Land too. I would definitely be interested in doing. How about the Christmas sequel, Fall La La Land? Fall La Land. Yeah. JB, that's really good. Thanks guys. That is nice. Wait, so are you, do you play an instrument now? Like do you play anything piano or anything else? No, I mean, I never really learned how to play anything and I remember I had about six months to learn guitar, which isn't enough time really to learn how to play the guitar. But I got together with a really great teacher. And we just learned the couple songs that I needed to learn. But it makes it very hard for me to learn or to play other things now, because I didn't learn in a traditional way. So even if I tried to learn something else, I kind of end up playing Manchin on a Hill or something. Like it does. It does translate. Do you still have promises on the tips of your fingers? Or those in a way? Yeah, they're still a little rough. Really? Because it's a little bright. And I still pick up, I mean, Bruce Springsteen has been so involved in kind of the process of making the movie and really lovely and supportive all the way, all the way through. But you seem to really love it. Yeah, yeah. He's seen it a lot. But he bought me a 1955 Gibson J200, which is the same model than almost year. He reported it in 1954. But after our first meeting, he sent me this guitar, which is a very beautiful guitar. And so I do pick it up every once in a while, just because I feel guilty letting it sit and collect. That's so cool. Is it there in the office and you're in your... You know what? As I said, my house is falling apart. When that rain was happening, I was nervous. There would be some moisture in here. Yeah, sure. So it's actually under my bed at this moment. Yeah, guys, really safe. That's morning. I bought a Christmas tree here yesterday in New York and I dragged it back to my place here. We decorated yesterday. Oh, somebody fell, man. And I thought, you know, yeah, obviously I fell in everything. And I thought about it. If I ever wanted to have a Christmas tree stand down on Spring Street, just this season. And I'd call it spruce of Spring Street. You know what I mean? Nice. Nice. Bravo. That was just a good word. That was worth it. That was worth it. Wait, we'll tighten it up. So Jeremy, so what was the first thing then after all that theater experience that got you out to the West Coast? I got a job. I was very lucky right out of high school. I got a job on a TV show called Shameless. And oh, yes, of course. Of course, yeah. Yeah, fantastic. And you were on for like a decade. Am I right about? More. I was 18 when we did the pilot. And I was 30 when we finished. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. And then we did the first gig, or the first big gig. I did, yeah. I did some film in like every long order and stuff like that when I was in New York. But yeah, Shameless brought me to Los Angeles and kept me in Los Angeles. Yeah, that's so cool. That's so cool. Yeah, yeah. Incredible. You were 18 to 30. Yeah, it just doesn't happen. Right. So you inside that cocoon, that comfortable cocoon of a series through your whole launch, right? Yeah. And you got great notices through that. And you're meeting everybody and you're getting other opportunities during the hiatus is in between each season a little bit. Yeah, I try to do something. Yeah, I try to do something each hiatus we shot about five months. And yeah, if I was lucky, I'd get a movie or I did another like an Amazon sort of series one time. But yeah, I mean, I didn't have to. I mean, I was so happy and felt so lucky to have that kind of like, I don't know. That consistency and kind of continuity in my life. Especially in my 20s, especially as an actor, to kind of just have some place. You knew where you were going to be. Study in four months every year, five months a year. Yeah, did you have time to also have a life? I mean, that takes you all the way through your 20s. Like that's, at the time, we really want to have fun. Did you find time to do all that stuff too? Yeah, definitely found time for all that stuff. Yeah, I mean, I bounced around like we shot the show here and I got a place back home in New York when I was like 22. And so I'd kind of like split my time between LA and New York. And and and then yeah, I mean, by the time we finished the show, I had, you know, I had my two daughter, a lot of life happened. Wow, you're too good. As a dolly. Yeah, yeah, two daughters. Yeah, well, how old are they? Uh, dolly turns five on Friday. And as he turns seven in October. Oh, man, I mean, you still look like your family. Which is crazy. Yeah, well, we've held through. I mean, I was 27. Yeah, when as he was born, yeah, yeah, wow. Yeah, in that time, did you ever cross? I mean, I think he wrote on your show, Michael Malley. Did he write on it? Oh my gosh, of course. Yeah, he's a good friend of the best. Yeah, Mike was a writer on shame. He was on Glee at the same time too, which was like such a huge show. Right. And I was like, oh, wow, you're you're such a big actor and you're writing on our. Our show. Mike's had a really cool career. The really cool career. Right? Yeah, Mike's had a really cool career so far. Yeah, I love that guy. He's done acting, stand up, writing, producing. He's done it all. He's such a talented guy, such a talented writer. And we all, I mean, he's such a great old, old friend of mine and hours. He's not that old, well, no. No. Right. Right. He's just, he's just the best. We love you, Mike. Anyway, sweetheart. He is a sweetheart. So, so that takes you through to your, all of a sudden. So now you're 30. And it's weird coming off a show when you've been on it for a long time, right? Yeah. That's a weird. Yeah, did you think like, okay, it's all going to be downhill from here? Like, 100%. 100%. Yeah. I felt totally, I mean, you know, I leave the cocoon. Yeah, I remember, I mean, I really did. I did, we did ADR for the last, for whatever, the last episode of the 11th season of shameless. Those at Warner Bros. So Tracy, that's, that's where you, you, you re-requit some dialogue if it didn't, if it wasn't recorded well on, on the day. That's sort of a finishing. There you go. There you go. Yeah, it means kind of the, yeah, it's your, you're in your last connection often to the thing. Yeah. And I finished that and I was driving home from Warner Bros. And had a full, like, panic. I had to pull over my arms when I was so, really. Wow. Yeah, I mean, it had just been such a comfort. And, you know, I was with those actors for 11 years. And, I mean, they're like my family. My brother is, like, I got so close with, with everybody. And, and I felt like I was saying goodbye to not only kind of like my, my work environment and that sort of like comfort and security, but also saying goodbye to these, these people who have been so solid for, for me, for so long. And yeah, I just didn't know what was next. And I had a very hard time. How did you, what was, what was the thing that was most helpful that, that got you to, because I know that panic. Yeah. What do you, did you, did you lean on a friend? Did you go into therapy? I mean, I'm just citing all the things that I do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I partied. I just, you know, everything. Yeah. Why? Certainly, yeah. I was in therapy and was talking about it a lot. And then, but I was also very lucky, like, so, I mean, you know, there's so much luck involved in all of this thing. But, you know, I, I spoke to Chris Store who created the bear. He produced this, this movie I did, The Rental, like after season nine of Shameless. And, and Chris, I didn't see him on set a lot. He was kind of back and forth. But he comes up to me on kind of the last day. And Chris goes, uh, hey, what do you think you're going to be doing in three years? And I, you know, I don't, I don't really know. Like, you know, I think I got a couple more years of Shameless and he goes, all right, buddy, I'm going to call you in three years. And he walked away. And I was like, what a fucking jerk. Like, what a Hollywood jerk. Like, there's no way I'm ever going to hear from that guy ever again. Right. And he called me just as we were wrapping up season 11 and said, I have to show the bear. No. You know, I'd really like you to do it. But I was hesitant at first because it was, you know, I love Chicago, but based in Chicago again. And there was some kind of like family dynamics that seemed like similar upon first read to me. So I just wasn't sure I'd do it yet, but I just kept reading the script for the bear and the pilot and it was so great. And I got to the point where I was just like, you know, it's, it's not my business to pass. I have no right to pass on something this, uh, this good. So even though I was anxious about the future and all this stuff, I was shooting the pilot for the bear probably two months after that panic attack. You know, I knew I was going somewhere. So I was able to kind of throw myself into into something else. Yet it was still just a pilot, right? So you had to sweat totally the delivery of that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the reception. Reading it or, sorry, watching it and giving it a pickup, right? Effex, I believe still is one of the, it's, it's, I don't think it's like this kind of inside baseball or but it's like, you know, I think a lot of shows will go straight to the series these days with streaming, but, um, effects continues to sort of, they shoot a pilot. Everybody watches it. They see what it looks like. They take a look at, you know, um, what you want to do. Well, they make pretty good shows over there. So they're trying to do. Yeah. No, no, no. Wonderful. Yeah. I have a question about staying in Chicago. So those 11 seasons you did have shameless and then the bear, do you find a new place to stay every time you go or do you have a hub that you stay at? What a great question, Sean. That's great. Thank you. What part of Chicago? We broke her. So we shot, we shot most of shameless in LA, um, but we go for like a week at a time. Oh, I got it. Okay. So we stay in a hotel. I thought you shot the whole thing still. No, no, no. Yeah, no, um, first week in showbiz. First week in showbiz. We do shoot all of the bear in Chicago and we stay all in the same place and it's great because all of us are like on the same floor and we all cook together and eat together and that's great. That's great. Did you break us together? Yeah. Right. Okay. Wow. But yeah. So Apollo 13, the movie didn't, they didn't film that in space then. No. I have a portion of it. Okay. So you get the bear. So now you start doing the bear. So you, you come out of this trend. By the way, Sean, I was going to ask you. You also had that thing with like Will and Grace. How long was that on the air? It was a hell of a total of 11 seasons, but broken up to 8 and 3. So did you feel when that was over? Yeah. Well, you know, I try to be self-aware. I'm sure these guys did too during rest development that you know when something's working and you have a gig and you have job security and somewhere to go every day and hopefully every year with each season that you start trying to think ahead like, okay, I'm self-aware enough to know that this is working now. I have to use this to get another gig. I have to make sure I can parlay this into another gig. And as hard as you try, you just can't like Jason always says you can't control it. You can't control, you know, where your career goes. You can try, but it's like, you know, just kind of do your part. You do have to let go. Yeah. Well, certainly on a rest that we never had. How long was arrested? The first incarnation was three years. Oh, right, but then you guys came back. We never had job security. Even when after we won the Emmy, we were like, we were on the verge of being canceled. The next week. That's so crazy. It's such a great show. That's unbelievable. Every time we go past the guard shack at Studio, we'd wonder if there'd still be a drive on for us. But you guys knew how good it was. Every but like, you guys could all feel how good it was, right? I mean, it's like a warning. But it was like, but we were all, we're all a bunch of weirdos on that show. Or like, is this going to translate to our other people going to think this is funny? Yeah. We never knew. I never had that job security. I never had like a long term job in that way. Right. And yet you work more than literally anybody. I know. I know if that's true, but it's weird. You're doing okay, Will. Yeah. I know. Yeah. Thank you. So you get that. Now you come off that and then all of a sudden you find yourself you're shooting the pilot and then the show gets picked up. And could you, could you have predicted that the bear would make, would, would resonate with fans and critics, everybody as much as it did when you were doing it? Yeah, even more so than shameless. Yeah. No, I mean, you know, I think all of you guys know that the feeling of kind of making something and knowing that it feels exciting and fresh and that you love all the other actors and everybody's doing such great work. But then you know, that almost doesn't matter. You know, you put something out and will it connect or will anybody watch? It's just a whole other thing. So I think we all knew how exciting it was to make and we all hoped we could do more. But I think my greatest hope for the show when we were shooting the first season was like, maybe we can find kind of like a niche sort of like market where like people in service really did this show or like, you know, like, right. It's like respected by, I think that was the goal is like, we'll, we'll, we'll kitchens like this show, we'll back of house like this show. Does this seem real? So the fact that it connected with as many people as it did and, and was watched as much as it has been was, was definitely a surprise. Yeah. And you're on your what? You're on your four of the bear? We will start shooting five next year. Wow. Yeah. Wow. How many episodes a season? It changes. It's sometimes eight. Sometimes it's ten, but it's always right around there. Yeah. That's great. And now you are a great big movie star on top of it all. Top of it all. I feel like how are you going to stuff it all in, bud? Oh, man. I, what I feel like I want to take a, take an app, I don't know, I'm very like, I'm excited to go do the, the, you know, the next season of the show. And then I'm, I'm like, I mean, it's been so lovely what the show has given me, but I'm definitely, um, I definitely want to like hang out at home and take the kids to school and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it does seem like those things. There are, there are people that are uniquely suited to like constantly be in a public position and, and, and, and, and sort of do that whole thing. Away from home and all that stuff. And that's hard. Others that, yeah, that, that really like to be at home that are sort of private, that are sort of shy, um, that, that it's sort of antithetical to the whole public job, right? And you do seem to be someone that enjoys like, like me, I like, I think all three of us who kind of enjoy being, um, kind of nest, nesters. Yeah. Kind of a bit of a routine or a little bit of like, uh, I don't know, rhythm, you know, I get very thrown. And when you go out, you feel like you got to like, kind of throw the switch a little bit and kind of like, okay, now we got to kind of do this a bit, but it kind of becomes a part of you. Is that, is it become a comfortable part of you? Which part, like just like flying around and, yeah, and doing the thing and, and, and, and promoting stuff. Showing up in the room and everybody's like looking at you and going like a public figure. There's Jeremy, you know, I mean, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't think that I'll ever feel for me like a comfortable thing, but I think you can get better at sort of like hiding your anxiety perhaps. Yeah. For sure. You know what's funny, Jeremy, like this weekend, actually at one point I was on somewhere on social media and a photo came up and if you have, and, and in our friend, uh, Jamie who we just mentioned. Yeah. Uh, and, and it was like, seeing with, and, and, and I was like, there we go. You're there with Jamie who you work with. Yes. And people sort of globbin, you know, sort of lobbing comments and saying like, who's this person? Who's the person? Yeah. Who is the person? And you're just like, Hey man, the guy's out where he's working or he's doing this and he's in the city. Like it's just, and this that part is bizarre, right? It's just, it never gets really. Are you able to see that is kind of fun and funny? Yeah. I mean, you know, I love Jamie and I've known her for so long. So like that kind of thing is funny and, and, and that's what I get for, you know, whatever staying at the bowry, but, um, but, um, I just, um, but no, that stuff is, yeah, it's like, uh, it's strange. You certainly don't get used to it. Like I, I have this farmer's market. I, I love to go to and have gone to for, you know, six, seven years. That's very close to my house and I go every Sunday and, and I feel like that thing that was mine or me and my daughters or like whatever that very like private kind of like nice routine has kind of been, yeah, like spoiled by that sort of, uh, the attention. So, so yeah, when those things happen, I mean, I understand it comes with, you know, I'm, I'm very lucky to be working on a career that I've wanted to be in for so long and have these opportunities and this is something that, that comes with it. Um, but yeah, none of it is normal, you know, um, it, none of it feels normal. Yeah. Do you talk to your, do you talk to your kids about it? Like do you explain, try to explain it to them? They old enough yet? Yeah, I mean, I just try to explain it is like people get excited, you know, they know I'm on television and they'll see like posters and things and, you know, I explain that people get excited about kind of thinking they understand a version of your dad, but it's not really your dad and, right. And I'm, you know, you know, me and these people don't really know me, but that's, they get excited because they see this version of me. Right. As he, my oldest spots people, you know, quicker than than I do. She's got like a real like hawk eye for our people. I'm trying to put someone for test to be gone through their, put it up their, their phone or doing a double take. She'll be like, we better keep moving. Um, so she's seven. So it's nice that she's sharp. Yeah. I'm glad that she's, you know, I was, I was just so many months and, and somebody was taking like a sneaky pick of them and then came up and said, can I get a pick? And they said, you already got it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Respect. We'll be right back. And now back to the show. Jamie, what have you, have you ever, what do you say to your girls? I mean, your girls are older now, but did you say it back in the day? Have that color with them? I made a mistake early on of, um, we know, but what I want to know about this. Um, I remember once we were driving past the poster and, uh, and, and one of my daughters said, oh, we were driving to school and she's like, oh, I can't wait to tell my friends that, you know, you're on a poster. And my instinct was, I said, no, no, no, you can't. You can't do it. Don't, don't ever say that. And I kind of, because I didn't want her to be, you know, bragging or like, like, being like, what, I, I, I overcompensated and, right, it landed in a way that was like panicked about the right that you should hide the fact of what your dad does. Like, they almost thought that what I did was a bad thing. Uh, right. Um, and so I kind of had to undo that. But, you know, what do I, I never had kids before his first room. I mean, how old were, what, when was, yeah, how did you guys handle that kind of stuff you in Amanda? It's, uh, you know, you just, you try to keep an eye on what, like, when's the first possible moment they can understand the smart version of this conversation, right? You know, and try to have it then as opposed to the dumb version of the conversations, which is what I had. And it's just sort of just like, you know, a big doll, you know, dumb, blunt instrument, you know, saying, no, this is bad. Don't talk about it. This is, you know, over here is good. And it's just, was kind of stupid. So I just kind of kicked the can down the road for a bit. Yeah. I guess. Jeremy, what's your dream role? Great, great. Great. Great. I want to hear that. Yeah. I know this is cool. One, everything on Chicago. What was the commute like from the place you guys were staying? Well, Sean, I will, I mean, do you go back a lot? Like do you have a restaurant? I should be going to that I don't know about. Like what's going on? Yeah. I love Jeremy. Okay, good. I love the RL restaurant, the Ralph Lauren Polo restaurant. Of course. We get that. I mean, that's so, really? We can all walk. It's the best. Yeah. It's the best. For lunch, we're there. Chris store, the creator of the bears there every day. What an attack. And it's attached to the Ralph Lauren store. So you just go. I believe it's Ralph Lauren. You know what? The one in Paris is very good too. It's an actual real good. Yeah, really, really good. But I'm not a bad chair. Like is there because you have so much going on and you have to balance, you know, like you said, be nice to take my kids to school or whatever. Yeah. Is there something that's coming up or something that you've always wanted to do where you're just like, I really need to do that. I really want to do that. I have to get kids. I can't do it because of kids. Or I can't. Or I have to figure it out. I don't know. I mean, I don't think of, you know, I kind of take things as they come. Like I have to play Bruce Springsteen. I want to. It was more like a collaborative. Hey, what do you think about that? Yeah, I mean, that came. Yeah, Bruce came to me in the script came to me through Scott Cooper, who's a director. I've like admired for a really long time. Great film. And I think that's how I always move is sort of who are the directors, who are the writers, who are the producers, like who are the actors I want to work with. So like the genre or the world, those can be like very exciting things are almost secondary to, you know, I really want to work with Palo Sorrentino. Or I really like every actor wants to just do like a line in a Paul Thomas Anderson movie. You know, that's always kind of what I'm looking for. There's no sort of like archetype or a world that I'm necessarily like I need to do this. Got it. Got it. Got it. I like to do right now. I'm serious that somebody said you can pick a genre right now. What would you do? I want to play. I told you I want to play a complete fucking maniacal serial killer or someone who's just you would never, ever expect me to play like I want to play the super nice guy who is, you know, affable and kind of just like funny or whatever. And then he fucking rips people's necks apart when nobody's around. I mean, that's his mode. That's his mode is he rips people's necks apart. That's right. I wrote it down. You want me to send it to you? Okay. Okay. What kind of weapon would you would your guy use Sean? May it just my hands. Wow. I got a cake knife. How about think about it for a second? Jesus, let me get the question. Just try to cover up the motivation. Let him finish the. Just my hands. But no, you know, kind of like you know, like you throw it out with your hands. You know, like Anthony Hopkins and Soundson Lambs when we saw him. You're like, you're like, who is this guy? Like he can't like, no, he wasn't. I mean, he worked all the time before that, but that was what made him famous. You're like, wow, that's such a cool crazy. Sean, do we need to go look into your garage? Is this something do we need to check the circuit? I think I'm gonna find it. I think I'm gonna find it. Uh. Well, Willie, Willie, what about you? Yeah. What's that? What about it? Like a drink you could rub the genie bottle next next roll, next part. It's a, it's a, or could be a genre. It's a newborn. The newborn. Yeah. You'd like to be a newborn. I'd like to do some action work. Yeah. In the first scene, Matty and I battle it out. Sure. And then I, and with the silencer, I, uh, I take him out. And you take his wallet. And his identification. I take his identification. And right before he does, he, uh, Damon looks at me and goes, you're the best. And then, then when I take over, wow, but you haven't thought about it. Well, I wanted to compliment me before it. It's last words. No, do you, but in all honesty, if somebody came to you with like a big ass action film, right now, would you not think about the fact that the stunt work could be very challenging? I feel like that stuff's exciting to me. I mean, that's, yeah, that old, you're younger than we are. He's a young guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, what about you? Will, do you think you, you, you, do you say yes to some stunt work? You'd blow out your fucking ham and coming out of your fucking dressing room. Coming out of your dressing room. Oh. I'm out, I'm out. Says you, JB would show up for his first stunt. They'd be like, you can't do this in slippers. Yeah. But, uh, I think that, uh, yeah, I would actually think about more about the time that would take to be a way to do something like that. That, that, that, that person would freak me out more than anything. To be honest. Yeah. That's looking like six months. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know what it is. It is such a big factor in deciding, isn't it? Like, where am I going to be and for how long and what? Yeah. And we all have, you know, we have kids and, and you have lives and stuff and especially at our age. I mean, Jeremy, you're, you're lucky that you're sort of young. You have all these kind of, but for me, I'm like, oh, God, I'm so tired. Yeah. You have, you have a young one. I do. I do have a, I have a, I have a five year old. Five years. I have a five year old and a 15 year old and a 17 year old. So these are like, you are tired. Yeah, I am tired. And these are, uh, although my five year old slips through the night last night, which he hasn't been doing for a while, but he did last night, which was a big, even though I look crazy exhausted. Is he sleeping bad with you? No, no. Because that, that's super slow. But it is a somebody, you know, sometimes I'll go down and sort of get in, and, and sort of calm them down and stuff like that if he wakes up in the night. But yeah, he's, he's not a great sleeper. Yeah. But anyway, we're getting, you know, hey, listen, it's cool. I'm 55. Hey, uh, uh, uh, Jeremy, when you, can you, can you, can you, can you, you, you, you, you. I'm a bearer. I'm a bearer. Nope. It's a bearer. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. All my initials, yeah. J-W, yeah. J-W. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it. We can do the math. Okay, listen. But when, because I know what you mean. So, in your hair is distracted, we'll see. I know, it's just, I gotta get a cut. I'm getting a cut. Yeah, what time's the gig later on? You just cover all floccacy goals and nothing else, right? You don't have a figure skating gig next, a little bit. But, J-R, J-R, do you have, I don't know. I don't know. When you, because I talk about the anxiety thing and stuff like that, do you, can you, when you're not working and you have family, can you shut it off and not think about agents and lawyers and deals and scripts and all that stuff, can you completely separate or is it always kind of there? I think, yeah. I mean, that's, you know, when I'm around, yeah, my kids that you're forced to just, you have to be completely present. It's like, so I guess that's, yeah, the second time I found kind of real peace or focus is, yeah, and having kids, everything just kind of like narrows and you're like, oh, this is it, this is, you know, this is where my attention is, this is where I want to be, this is, you know. Right. And, and so, yeah, I'm able to do that when I'm home, yeah. And when it's not kids, when it's not, what else are you do, like what is just you, what do you do to completely decompress, no work, no kids, something stupid, something settling, is there, what would we be surprised to learn as you weird ass hobby or your shitty TV show that you watch? I mean, I watch, I, well, okay. So I'm obsessed with like reality real estate shows. And I'm like always on my realtor app. I don't buy anything, but I like to fantasize about you two, like, buying stuff all the time. That's why I think that shows are so popular. You do too, the three of us do. It's insane. I send listings to friends and they're like, yeah, buy it then, like what do you, like, what do you want from me? I'm like, no, I don't know, I don't know. Wait, so like those like weird realitters, million dollar listing, selling sunset or owning Manhattan just started up again. I'm very excited. I'm just like, I write a hand, yeah. Yeah, Brian Sirhant is like incredible. Yeah. From nothing and built an empire. I'm very impressed by that man. Yes. No, I mean, it's cool. I know, yeah. But that's my like, you know, I just like look at stuff. If I'm visiting like a, I don't know, like traveling for work or even like, I like doing road trips. I don't know if I'm in a small town, I think is really sweet. Instantly, I'm kind of on like Zilla or the realtor app. And I'm like, what if I, what if I got another place here? What if I just like, you know, would come here all the time? What is it? I do the same thing wherever I go. I'm immediately thinking about getting a place there. Is it because that's how I could feel like at home there? Yeah, maybe. So I'm not home. Maybe it's a way to try to like get some control over it. Yeah. I feel like a lot of it comes back to control for me. Exactly. I want to be a local immediately. What's the weirdest place that you ever like seriously concerned? Like, maybe I will get a place here. Was there ever one of those? Bizby, Arizona. Why? Really? Really considering. Yeah, I did a road trip. I've driven cross country like four or five times and I did one from LA to New York in December. This was like, I don't know, 10 years ago. And the first stop was Bizby, Arizona, which is like a very small town. It looks kind of like Laurel, like the buildings are very pastel colors and there's it's kind of hilly, but it's in the middle of no. It's like desert, desert, desert, very small town, but very sweet and spent the night there in a bed and breakfast. Got up the next day, was like walking around, talking to locals and everybody I spoke to, like nobody was from Bizby. Everybody was just passing through and then they opened a sandwich shop or they had an open to clothing store and it started to feel a little like twilight, episodey where I was like, oh, maybe this is one of those towns you stop in and you just, you can't get out of and I did get out. But then for about six months I was considering getting like a little house in Bizby, Arizona. What about these drives across country? Did you, did you ever have a big run in with a cop? Do you like to speed? I didn't, I'm really responsible on the road. You are. I go across a country. I go ten above the speed limit. Okay. Yeah, it's almost at the cruise control. They won't need me. I just keep going at ten. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I did get a flat in St. George when I was driving across country a couple years ago. In the middle of the night, there was no one around. I didn't have cell service and that was spooky. Oh, that's the worst. And then I finally got a cop stopped and I got a spare and I was going to spend the night in Vegas. I was on my way back to LA. But there was like a fight night and everything was booked, everything. I'm talking like holiday ins were booked. All the nice hotels were booked. Eventually I got a hotel room. I was like the only hotel room left in Las Vegas. But it was like $2,000 for the night. It had a bowling out. It was like so absurd. Okay. So I spent $2,000 to like lie down at 2 a.m. And then pretty much get up at 6 a.m. to go get a real tire put on the car. Right. Because you just had a little pizza cutter. Back to LA. I just needed to sleep. Yeah. Just slept in your car. I should have. I should have. That's what I'm here for. Oh, yeah. Another thing for you, the list for your time machine. I know what you mean about that real like anytime Scotty and I go anywhere. We mean to go I always ask them like could you live here? Could you live here? Could you live there? And it's always a small point. Like Duncan franchises. It's not like that. Right. Could you? No, but like it's always the same thing where I think I would go. I think the idea of living smaller in a coin town like Biz Beer or whatever is great. But then the reality is I don't know this New Yorker LA or Miami or Chicago. The city really keeps you kind of going and alive. And it's like I'd feel too isolated I think. Yeah. I'd need some big town too. Here for two things are a Sean that is that Sean does do that because I know for a fact you. Sean will go even further. He won't even just look at online. He'll go and look at property with a local realtor. That's a true 100%. He does it all the time. All the time. Oh, whoa. Yes. Commitment. And but you bought and you'll pull the trigger. No. No, no, no, no, no. He's wasted so many realtor's time. It's funny. He's like realtor. I got a real. Real. Real well. Yeah. Yeah. I have no, sorry. Go ahead, Sean. No, I just get that idea. Jeremy, the idea like do you come from a small town and you prefer cities now? No, I could actually. He's a realtor. Yeah. But I'm not like Brooklyn's like, no. Brooklyn isn't like a like, you know, Brooklyn's city like so. Do you go on? Do you prefer the opposite of that as you get older because you didn't grow up that way? Maybe. I mean, yeah. I definitely like the idea of maybe one day having a place that's more slow moving. Yeah. I have a, you know, a smaller place in LA or if I'm back in New York, I have an apartment in the city and go upstate or Long Island or something like that. You ever see yourself getting like a bunch of land and being like one of those guys with a bunch of like ranch, ranch tools and cave and cost land. Again, like the fan is the other. Yeah. I think. Quite the prop. Was it Jason stuff that the Bob Department hands you? You know, one of those cap guns. Holding it upside down, Mr. Bateman. I'd be so useless. I think for a week it could be fun. Yeah. Yeah. I have the fantasy of it, but very quickly I'd realize there's no. I could see you upstate. I could see you upstate or on Long Island. Yeah. I have some friends that are up there and it's, you know, I think it's sweet and then and then yeah, Long Island I think is really nice and I had, I rented a place last summer there that I really loved and we loved and, uh, and yeah. And my, all my people, my, my folks are still in Brooklyn, my sisters and we're like, yeah, that's great. So I like going back there being closed. Well, personally, I like you stay here in Los Angeles. We have to wait to each other. Yeah. It is nice. It is. What was the last movie? What was the last movie night? It's been a while. I mean, I'm still watching them. Yeah. But the door is still unlocked. A jar even waiting for you. People come back. And let's creepy would be great. Just a little less creepy would be. That's the name of my autobiography. The door is a jar. The door is a jar. Oh, it's a jar. It's a jar. It's a jar. It's so gross. Jimmy, I'm, you, the man. You're the man. You're the man. You're the man, man. You know I appreciate you. Yeah. Jodog. Jodog. Jodog. Jodog. Jodog. Jodog. It's just incredible. No, it is. We're all big fans. Can you success? Can you grab some of the things you've got? It's so well deserved. You worked hard for it and you've been just consistently great all the way along. So we're big, we're big, big fans. I speak for Sean. Jason has his own take on it, which is a little more lascivious. Yeah, I'm not there yet. Okay. Oh, I'm working on him. I'm trying to play hard to get. I really appreciate it. You can go ahead. This is a pleasure. Thank you. Nice to meet you. Thanks for doing that, buddy. You're the best. See you soon, man. See you. Will, did you get that full plate of food done? I know. First of all, he said you're the best. He was looking at me. Do you see that? No, he was nice. My box. You got it. I'm glad. I'm glad. No, he was my box. No, he was my box. He was looking at me. Yes, I did. You have a full plate of food delivered to you at the beginning of the interview. Did you get it all done? What is it? It was like, Montsebreu. It's chicken salad. Oh, right. The chicken breast. The chicken breast. It would seem like somebody was on their hands and knees down there. The door opening. What was that? She didn't want to interrupt. She didn't want to interrupt. She didn't want to interrupt. No, it was Carolyn. That was Carolyn, on her hands and knees. She wasn't on her hands and knees. She bent down to put it on the door. She didn't want to interrupt. She was being very respectful. She should have come in. Said, I love her. I know. I love her. Don't you mess that up? Oh my god. She's... It starts to get wobbly. You just hand it over and let us fix it and then we'll give it back. Yeah. It's a relationship's work, right? Yeah, sure. That's exactly how it works. You hand it over. Oh my god, I'm not a milk. Sean, is this the same Snickerdoodle? Yeah, you just killed it. It was really good. The last bite. Good boy. I left it. Well, I really never met him. Oh, he's just the greatest. He's such a nice guy. I've only met him before. I'd be so nice. He's got a good, normal person. Really great. It would have been great up there on that stage. Are we going to reschedule that? Are we going to do the bowl maybe like in the spring or something like that? Let's make a commitment that we're going to do something. Yeah, why don't we do the bowl? Or let's for sure do it when it's not rainy season. We can't do it in the summer because they do the Philharmonic there in the summer. Every night? It's most of it's programmed. Why can't you do it over the summer? What about the beginning? L.A. Phil's in there through the summer. You went one night. I don't know. I thought you were before the rain started. Don't argue with me. I'm happy to do it at any point. I think it's all about the guests. When can we get guests in there? Yeah, you're right. Yeah. You know, we got to get some big shut guests because we're not cutting it. People aren't cutting it. People aren't cutting it. They don't want to see us blather on sitting on a couch. They want to see us for us. Wait, how did you and Jeremy meet again? Grinder. Wow. Wow. Wow. He's so great. He's so great. He's so successful. JB, I didn't want to say that. I don't know. You didn't know that Sean didn't want to say that because he's embarrassed because the same guy created the bearer. Sean is about to do the spin-off. He's doing the cup. It's a different show. It's a different, doing the cup. It's on YouTube. It's on porn, porn, porn, or whatever. But whatever. Hey, listen, doing that. Sounds fun. By the way, when I saw the title of the bear, I was like, I'm in Clayton. Oh, it's about a restaurant. Me, me, me. Pat, back, click on the hand. People are talking about food. Wait, is Grinder the hetero one or the gay one? Nice try. Which one said, listen, oh yeah, I'm confused. What am I doing here? I'm so confused. Hand to God of my kids life. Which is which? Which is which? Which is what? What are you two asking? Is it Tinder? One of them's the gay one. Yeah, grinders the gay one. Just the gay. I'm just gonna make sure you get that on here. I'm like, I'm gonna make sure you get that on here. Of course we're getting it. We're still recording. Wait, you know, when Jeremy was playing Bruce Springsteen. Oh boy, here we go. Jesus. There is a song that I wonder because I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen the show yet. And I wonder if he's singing the song in the movie called Johnny Bye-Bye. Do you know that song that... It leads, commits to it. No, I was just like, it's... Bye! Bye! Bye! Bye! Bye! Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. SmartLess is 100% organic and artisanally handcrafted by Bennett Barbaco, Michael Grant Terry, and Rob Umbjerf. Smart. Less.