TRAITORS: Penultimate + Top Model!

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It's really, really good. So I'm recapping that right now. So if you want to listen to that recap, it's on the podcast feed. And then the Traders recaps, I'm trying to do every week, but I know we're missing a week here. I had family in town, and so I'm ready to dive back in. And we're approaching the end of the season of the Traders. I think we have, what, one or two more episodes left? Which is devastating. I think next week's the finale, I believe. And then we have the reunion, which I don't know how many parts the reunion is. Now, there's a lot of drama that's happening off screen with the reunion, because I don't know if you saw this, but Lisa Rinna was talking about filming the reunion. And I think it was page six, or one of the outlets reported that Rinna had confronted Colton Underwood about things at the traders reunion, and Colton stormed off. But then it was reported later that Colton actually didn't storm off. And then Lisa Rinna was like, well, I don't know, they're probably going to cut it. And there's a lot of antics happening off screen. And I was reading the Variety article that was talking about it. And at the end of the Variety article, they had said, we reached out to Colton's team for a statement. And the statement from Colton's team was that him and Rinna off screen have a different relationship than what Rinna is presenting publicly. And it just really reminded me, and I loved Lisa Rinna on Traders. I truly, truly loved her on Traders. And I loved her at the beginning run of her Housewives. But some of these antics are what I found very frustrating towards the end of her tenure, where it was like, I don't know what exactly is real and what's you just trying to drum up press and publicity. And obviously, she's got a new book out, which I've been hearing little excerpts of that is supposed to be really good. And so that's the thing that frustrates me, though. It's like, I don't know if she's just playing some crazy games with people, or if she actually feels a certain way. And I'm just noticing it playing out off screen with the traders and she was kind of throwing production under the bus saying they were going to probably cut the confrontation with Colton from the traders reunion. And I don't know. I just, I don't know what I believe. I don't know what to believe, what not to believe anymore. But I am devastated this week because a lot of the crazy people have been kicked out of the traders castle. And that is unfortunate to me, especially my dear Dorinda. If you got a problem with me, It's your problem It's like Dorinda's gone All the housewives are gone And not only are all the housewives gone But all the people who are left are kind of floppish No offense to them God bless them I hope they all have the best lives ahead of them But when it comes to the cast of remaining characters on The Traitors It's like who do we have Mark in those gaucho pants Like dancing around the castle Barely adding anything This week Kristen was also let go This week from Top Chef But I'm like what was she really offering the castle I didn't really see much of her. Stephen Coletti was kicked off last week on the show, but it was like, what is, I haven't heard him speak more than five sentences the whole season. And then I'm not even sure who's left. We got Maura left. Maura, I love her. Unfortunately, I think I love her. I do love my Maura, but I'm not sure she really adds much. And she's actually kind of pissing me off because she's writing so hard for Rob, our snake wrangler. And Rob, I think is actually at least playing the game and is kind of interesting. And I do think that Rob is ultimately going to win this thing. My prediction is that they get Eric out next week, and then Rob is the last trader standing. He wins the whole thing solo. That's my prediction. I don't know that's going to happen, but it feels like that's what's going to happen. And to be quite honest, I think he's the only one playing a good game. And Tara and Ojani are still sticking around, thank God. And I love the two of them, but I just feel like the remaining cast, there's too many flawed people on. And I don't know what's going to need to happen for next season, but they need to figure out some sort of way to balance. And I guess sort of towards the end of every season of The Traitors, it's like they get all the crazies out because it's easier to get the crazies out than it is to go after the sane people towards the end. But I don't know. I miss all the crazies. I do. I want them all back because I'm otherwise bored even going to press play on this episode. It came out on Thursday night. And Thursday night's also the release date of that new show that I'm watching with the JFK Jr., the Ryan Murphy show. Unfortunately, I do like that show. I do look forward to that. And so this week was the first week where I'm like, oh, I prefer to be watching the JFK show, but I knew that I wanted to come on and take notes for traitors and do a recap for everything iconic. But I was a little bummed even pressing play on the episode. I'm like, ah, an hour with these flops? Like, no offense to them, but I don't know that I have an hour in me to spend with Mark Ballas. I just don't. God bless him. God bless him. Anyway, speaking of reality TV, though, did you guys watch the America's Next Top Model documentary? I loved it. I loved it. There's a three-part documentary airing on Netflix now. They had Tyra Banks sit down. She's taking a break from her hot ice cream that she's selling. Did you guys hear about her hot ice cream? She sells ice cream. She's like an ice cream maven. By the way, years ago, I tried really hard to get Tyra on Everything Iconic because I do love Tyra Banks. And I'm so fascinated by her. I think she's given so much to pop culture as a whole. The amount of crazy stunts and everything she did on that talk show, on Top Model, all over the place. But she's moved to Australia. And I felt like I was really close to getting her on the podcast. And then, I don't know, it somehow fell through. It didn't happen. But it was when she was promoting her ice cream line, which to me seems like such an insane thing to sell. But I would also like us all to remember that Cher has a gelato line. Our dear Cher has a gelato line. So maybe it's like the new frontier of celebrity businesses. Like the Bravo lebris are busy getting into their DJ booths, but maybe they need to start getting behind the ice cream counter because that's what's happening culturally now. Tyra's got the ice cream, Cher's got the ice cream. I don't know who's next, but they all have the ice cream now. But Tyra's is interesting to me because she's marketing hot ice cream, which I don't understand. And so when she was going to come on the podcast, it was in promotion of the hot ice cream. And so even when I tried to do some research about it, I could not figure out how it worked. Because it's somehow, to me, I'm thinking, is it just soup? Like, isn't hot ice cream soup? How is it holding its shape if it's hot? And then it wouldn't be an ice cream shape. I don't know. I don't understand at all. And I, I'm not even kidding you. I have done like upwards of five minutes of research on this. Like, and I don't understand how she's selling hot ice cream. She lives in Australia now. It's all very confusing to me, but the America's Next Top Model documentary is fantastic. And if you haven't watched it, even if you've never watched Top Model, I think it's worth diving into because it looks back on that time in reality TV, which was of course a different era. And they were all just like film and shit nowadays with like Bravo and our housewives and everything, everything's very controlled. They have to get permits for where they're filming. The cast members, they get a rundown of where they're going to be meeting for the scene, where they're going to be filming the scene. They stop and start. Back then though, I think it was just like, get a camera up and start shooting them wherever they are and then sign the releases later and figure it out later as you go. And they were filming everything. I mean, back then it was like filming at the top model house, which was like an apartment building or whatever. And they were filming them 24-7. We had the real world on, which is, of course, filming them 24-7. Even when they left the house, then the camera would follow them everywhere. And that's just not how reality TV is anymore. But so it's fascinating to look back on Top Model. And of course, there were so many issues that were wrong with everything that was going on then. And some of them I do recall, even at the time, people being like, that's fucked up. I don't know that everyone had the language or even the access to social media or a large audience to say, this is really fucked up. But there were times, I mean, I remember watching The Soup, and that was one of my favorite shows back in the day with Joel McHale. His version of it was the one I was always watching. But he would constantly call out everything that was happening on Top Model, and most of the time we would just be laughing at it. But it was all crazy. And now we look at it through the lens of what's going on now, and some of it still was. hilariously crazy. And some of it was like, what the fuck? That's not okay. Crazy. You know? Like there was that one moment where Tyra Banks pretended to faint as she was presenting like an acting challenge. And it's like, that's the fun kind of crazy to me. Like the idea that she just decided to fake faint. But what I also really loved about the documentary series is it got into the three men that started it with her, Miss J and J Manuel. And gosh, why are these names? Nigel the three of them it was interesting to hear from them and like their relationship with Tyra now so anyway if you haven't watched it yet please check it out because it's so good and speaking of ice cream too this is neither here nor there but Costco has a new sundae did you guys ever go to the Costco food court or food cafe bar so great because you get like a whole ass pizza for $9.99 but now they have like a mint ice cream sundae that I haven tried yet but I love mint and chocolate together And it like Oreo cookie pieces and vanilla ice cream and mint Oh I need to try it I need to try it. All right, last thing before we take a break and then dive deeper into Traders. I got to tell a quick story. The baby now. He's a very giggly baby, my son. He laughs at everything. But you know how when a baby starts laughing at something, then you feel like you need to do it all the time. So something, for instance, like Peekaboo. You can find yourself for hours just playing peekaboo because you find them laughing. And then, of course, it makes you want a baby's laugh is contagious. It's the best thing in the world. So you want to keep them laughing. And so the other day I said, I walked in the room and I said, it's a me, papa. OK, I said it just like that. It's a me, a papa. Now, I want us to all take a minute before I dive deeper into the story. And I want you to think about, like, what does that remind you of? Okay. When I say, it's a me, a papa. When I say it like that, I just want to know like what everyone thinks. Like what? Think about it. Register in your head. When I say, it's a me, papa. When I say it like that, I want you all to think, what does that make you think of? Now, where I got that from is because the Super Mario movie is coming out. And of course, Super Mario, it's a me, a Mario. You know, he says it like that, right? Like, I thought I was doing like an impression of Super Mario. It's a me, a Mario. But when I started doing it, Lucky started laughing, okay? Then I kept doing it, kept doing it. And then this morning I was doing it, and I walk in the room, it's a me, a papa. And my husband, Matt, he, his reference point for that was not the Super Mario movie or the Super Mario video game, he thought I was doing an impression of Rob Schneider in The Hot Chick. Do you remember when Rob Schneider, he transferred bodies with Rachel McAdams in this movie called The Hot Chick, which came out in probably, I don't know, 2001 or something like that. And in the movie, Rob Schneider, who is playing Rachel McAdams, it's a body swap. So he's basically Rachel McAdams in the movie. Does that make sense? And then Rachel McAdams basically turns into Rob Schneider. Anna Faris is also in the movie, but that's neither here nor there. It's a hilarious film. That's not the point. The point is, in the movie, Rob Schneider says, it's me, Jessica. And that's what Matt thought I was doing an impression of. And I was like, no, Super Mario. And he thought I was doing Hot Check. And I was like, no, I'm doing Super Mario. And so anyway, I'm devastated about it. It reminded me, It gave me PTSD or traumatic flashbacks of when I was a kid. I would answer the phone. Then people would be like, oh, hey, Linda. And I'm like, no, it's Danny. Every gay person out there knows what I'm talking about. When you're a kid, you're already so concerned with your gay voice and presenting masculinity and everything. And really, you just sound like your mother. And so every time I would answer the phone, people would be like, hey, Lynn. Hey, Linda. And I would have to tell them, no, I'm actually her son. and it would be so devastating and traumatic, especially when you're trying to cover up your sexuality as a young teenager or whatever. And that's exactly what I felt like when Matt said, oh, you're doing the hot chick. I said, no, I'm actually doing Super Mario. Like, I'm being the plumber. I'm not being Rob Schneider as Rachel McAdams saying, it's me, Jessica. It's me, Papa. Anyway, it makes Lucky laugh, which is all that matters. But the truth is, it was devastating to me that Matt thought I was doing an impression of Rob Schneider as Rachel McAdams and not our, our dear plumber. And I'm an Italian man. Of all the things, like, I'm not doing a Super Mario impression properly. I mean, come on. So anyway, I hope some of you out there thought I sounded like Mario. That's not the point. The point is, we have to get into traitors. Let's take a break here, and we're going to come back and dive deeper. We'll be right back. Thank you to Acast. And we're back. Okay, Hey, bitch, let's gossip. All right, the traitors. Now, I mentioned I wasn't as excited this week just because so many of the people that I love were banished. Stephen Coletti, of course, from Laguna Beach, was banished last week. So it's Dorinda. A lot of people are gone now. And it seems so weird. And something sad, deeply sad to me about the roundtable with some few people. I don't know what it is. It feels like a sad party or something. I don't know. I was thinking this week, maybe I don't like the end of traitors. because I feel like I felt that same way the last couple of seasons of the show. Watching it towards the end of the show, I'm just not as invested. And I think it's because I find it very sad just seeing that big-ass table and Alan in a sensible teal blouse walking around it, strolling around it. What was that blouse he was wearing? To be honest with you, his whole look this week was very shocking to my naked eye. Now, I know it's in style because when I saw it, I was like sort of shocked by it. I couldn't believe it. And then immediately, like I think after the episode or shortly after the episode, I was on social media and I saw somebody post like a side by side that that guy from Heated Rivalry, the HBO show, the young hot Connor, that guy, he was wearing like the same blouse that Alan Cumming was wearing on the Traders this week. And so I was hating on the blouse. And then I was like, no, actually, like that's an in-style blouse, like because the Heated rivalry cast is wearing a blouse that looks just like it with the big ass bow on the front or whatever. So I'm like, maybe I need to get a blouse. But I do always call men's shirts blouses. And more than any other time in the history that I've called a men's shirt a blouse, has it been more true than with Alan this week on the show? Because that was definitely a teal blouse. Like there's no way that you could call that. That is a blouse through and through. It's either a blouse or a doily. Like there's no other term for what Alan was wearing. And God bless. I mean, Alan's a very fashion forward man, but it just reminds me that it's like, oh, I actually am like not, I'm not fashion forward because I was like, what is this outfit he's wearing? It wasn't for me. And I normally, normally Alan's looks, they really always hit for me on this show because they're campy, they're silly, they're overboard, they're diva. He's normally giving me a lot. But then this week on the show, I just wasn't a fan of that blouse, but it is in style. So I just have to let everyone know that if you also hated that blouse, just know that it's like the youths are wearing it. And the youths, I don't know, I can't keep up with them. Always doing something different. Okay, so this is like the semifinals. Now, Maura, we opened this week with them all waking up in the morning, going to the breakfast nook. Maura trusts Rob, mostly because they're both so hot. Now, everybody has been digmatized by Rob. And I understand that. But also, by the end of the road here now, like some of you need to open your eyes and wake it up, because it's getting to be too long that you're digmatized by the snake wrangler. So look, he's very hot, but you've all been spending enough time with him. And anytime you spend that much time with a hot, you're always going to lose a little bit of your attraction. So it's even like when you see, I mentioned that JFK Jr. show. Now that man on there, as soon as I saw him, I mentioned this on the podcast, as soon as I saw him pop up on that screen on that FX show, I was like, who is this man? I go immediately follow him on social media. I'm so attracted to him. But I know deep in my heart and my soul and my gut that eventually I'm going to grow tired of that man because I'm going to start to understand his personality and then the attraction is going to probably wear off. Probably. Probably. I don't know that for sure yet with this man from that show. But I feel like in the history, when I think back of all the times I've gone on social media, followed a male model or followed someone I just thought was really hot, and then you start to see their posts and stuff and you're like, oh, all the sexual energy is just gone off the wayside because anytime you spend a long period of time with people, all of that sort of excitement wears off, right? And so I'm looking at the traders and I'm like, how is their excitement not worn off with that, Rob? He's still got them all digmatized. And he's not even upping the game in terms of his sexuality. It's not like we're seeing him take his top off more or be more sexual. If anything, I feel like his outfits are getting lazier. He's still wearing those overalls. And so maybe at a certain point, all these people need to wake up, Maura, or who else is in there? Open your eyes. And Maura's just especially digmatized by him. And I love her. I think I love her. But I'm going back and forth now with her. I am. But they're all at the breakfast nook. Rob says he feels bad. He says he feels real low for lying. He's been lying too much. Then the other people start to ride. Mark Ballas shows up in his gauchos and his curls. Are those gauchos? I don't think those are gauchos. What are gauchos? Was he wearing gauchos or were they just like big pants or something? I don't know what you would call them. But his look is shocking to the naked eye. It's like, I almost feel like I need it. You know how when you know that you're going to get a headache and so you like pre-take ibuprofen? I almost feel like I need to like pre-prepare myself every time Mark's on screen. Cause I'm always like, Whoa, Whoa, what's happening? And look, handsome fella, but it's just, I'm not, I'm never understanding like the outfits with the look. It just does. I don't know. What do I know? But it's shocking to me every time he shows up on screen and he's not really adding much to the show. I'm like, why did they cast him anyway? The thing is, the traders is like, they have their pick of the litter when it comes to casting. I would imagine it's pretty easy to cast a show because it's like one of the biggest shows, certainly the biggest show on Peacock. And culturally, it's a big show. So I would imagine they can get a lot of people to do this show. And so it's like you can get anyone and you're picking that guy from Dancing with the Stars. Like, what? Now, some of the people they cast, it's like they purposely cast kind of people that you wouldn't expect to like. Like someone like Dylan Efron who became this big star because of Traders And that someone who before Traders you be like why are they casting this person So I understand that they like also trying to make stars which I appreciate because that an important thing But Mark from Dancing with the Stars like I feel like there was enough tape on that man that it like maybe we don need him right Like what is he going to really bring What is he bringing? Anyway, it seems like the group is sort of skeptical of Johnny and Tara. And the night before they all arrive at this breakfast nook, there was some like Jack in the Box thing. And that was when Kristen from Top Chef was let go. Now, Tara, she suddenly suspects Rob, who's run around them overalls. Now, I loved, I know I talk shit about his overalls, but I did always love overalls. As a kid, I had the jean overalls, and they were probably my favorite thing. I think especially as a husky kid, at the era that I was husky in, that's how they would describe me as husky, I loved an overall because it was like, it didn't give you much of a shape, right? You know, like, it was easy to cover up some stuff. It was easy to cover up what you needed. And someone as a child with body dysmorphia was considered husky. It was nice to throw on an overall. And if I needed to go in the pool in my overalls, so be it. At least I was covered. Do you know what I'm saying? So I like the overalls. But Rob and Mark, they're going after Natalie now because they say she's the only strategic player left. I mean, some of Natalie, I feel like I'm talking shit about the way they all look. And again, I don't know. But even Natalie's look, I think it was Gibson. Do you guys know Gibson John? He's got a great podcast. But I think he posted something that was like, she looked like she just came back from the club at night. Because it was like the breakfast nook or something. And she was in heels and I was like, what is she wearing around the castle to have a bagel and salmon? I don't know if that was the outfit in the breakfast nook. But one of her outfits was just like, what is happening here? And also towards the end of the season, I would imagine they have a lot of outfits left that maybe they didn't wear for a certain challenge or a certain event. so they're like oh i need a or or maybe they didn't think they were going to last that long so they didn't pack enough outfits and so then they go through their suitcase and like well this is all i got left and it was like really supposed to be for the wrap party you know that's what i imagine natalie's outfit was like she packed it for the wrap party and then she ran out of outfits for on camera and was like okay i guess i gotta wear this on screen um and running around the castle midday or whatever because i was like what is what the fuck is she wearing what the fuck um Then, yeah, so Rob and Mark are going to go after Natalie. Maura also is sitting at the breakfast nook. She's like, I don't even know why I'm here because I'm bad at all of it. She's like, I don't even think I should be here. But Natalie, she, in the meantime, is going after Rob, which I'm like, finally, someone, it seems like, even Tara, Tara was kind of pissing me off because at one point she did want to go after Rob, but then she was scared to do it. And I'm like, you know what? Buck up, Buttercup. We need you to go after him. like what Johnny meanwhile is in the zebra stripes do you guys see his zebra stripes I mean what the fuck were they all wearing I know this is a show about like what the fuck they're wearing but it's like what the fuck were they wearing and they were all going to this like haunted theme park which is called Kara's Hell and that's where Alan was dressed like gay mother Teresa if she shopped at Ellen's yard sale like it was that teal blouse or whatever it was shocking to me but again in in style. Now, with these challenges, I typically do fast forward. They ultimately got like $24,000 for the prize pot or whatever. And there was something with like these, there were like mannequins or dummies on the Ferris wheels. I truly wasn't paying much attention because that's when I fast forward. And I look, I know, especially as someone who's like coming on a microphone to recap the show, I probably shouldn't fast forward things. But the truth is the challenges just, And I find them boring, especially now. And they're too long because the episode's a solid hour. And I just think they spend too much time on these challenges that don't even ultimately make much sense. And I guess the challenges are supposed to inform how you vote for people. But I just don't actually think that's the truth. I don't think they ultimately do inform the way people vote around the roundtable. I think they just are doing this for, I don't know, shits and giggles. And I like when the challenges are a little more like, this one did seem like they had a little wackadoo in it with the mannequin people and the carousel or the carnival rides. But I need them to be even wackier. And I need them to embarrass them more. Like that one challenge where they were milking each other to do a photo, that's the kind of challenge I want. Or the one where Tom Sandoval was singing to the doll. That's the kind of, I want them to be humiliated. I don't know that I found this one to be super humiliating. but I did fast forward a lot of it so maybe they did humiliate them a little bit but then they arrive back at the castle for dinner Natalie thinks she should have been murdered the night before but she's like somebody was protecting me and at this point she sort of implies that God was protecting her and I was like girl God's busy I don't think God is concerned with how far you're getting on the Traitor's TV show and then later in the episode she's like there's a traitor's angel protecting me But in the beginning of the episode, she was kind of implying, like, I think she even looked up to the sky, like, looked up to the heavens and was like, someone's protecting me. And I was like, Natalie, let's cool it, girl. Like, God isn't watching the traitors. There's plenty of other things happening in this world that God, she's busy. She's busy. And I always say that with housewives, too. Sometimes they'll say, like, you know, God was with me. And it's like, nope, God was not there. God was busy. I know they say God's everywhere, but I just don't think God is, I don't think she is watching the traitors. And that's one place the Catholic in me would want to say, yeah, God's everywhere. It's with us all times everywhere. But I actually don't believe that to be true. I think God is not watching the traitors. If anything, God's watching that JFK Jr. show because God is like, ooh, look at that man I made. God is looking at the great work that she did, making that JFK Jr. fella the actor. So I don't think God is busy with the traitors. If anything, God's watching traitors on the TV or recording it, watching it later, watching on the cock. So I don't know. What's her name? Natalie's thinking. Someone's protecting her. Now, Maura is thinking about her throwaway vote. and then... Her throwaway vote. I love her. They also sort of bring up Candace. And at one point they were talking like, well, Candace was going to have to rob. Does that mean rob? It's whatever. Tara and Johnny are kind of the only reasons I'm still interested in continuing this program because I don't, even Maura, I don't like her enough that I would continue watching this for her. But I like seeing her there. She's not like enough. If it was just her, I'd be like, okay, I'm done. But at the round table, Alan's still wearing that blouse. Which I thought, doesn't normally Alan change for the round table? Did Alan run out of outfits too? Was he wearing the same blouse or was it just a similar one? It was the same one, I think. But I guess this is the last round table where a person's going to reveal their identity. And then in terms of the filming of the show, they're ending the next night. So they only have one day left of filming. So even though we have another week of watching it, they only have one more day of filming. Natalie, though, at the roundtable brings up Candace. And this is when Maura says that Candace was a throwaway vote. And then randomly Natalie starts going after Tara. And we also have this dagger that's in play. Now Rob got the dagger, and the dagger has two votes for one person. So Rob's got the dagger, so he knows that he's going to get two votes, and he uses it on Natalie. and everybody else, I don't even think you need to use it because everybody else is voting for Natalie. Mark voted for Natalie. Uh, he said, if we're wrong, wow, that's all I have to say. And I'm like, okay, you flop Mark. Like what are we doing with Mark? I don't know why I'm like so mad at Mark this week. He was really PMOing me, pissing me off. Like, I don't even know why he didn't even do anything bad. You know, sometimes people just rub you the wrong way. And I think that's all right. As reality TV viewers is like, yeah, you could just hate someone just because. You don't have to have much of a reason. It could just be their mere presence on the show. And that's not a good thing in real life. I don't think it's appropriate to walk in a room or walk in a work meeting or something and just hate someone for no reason. But I think on reality TV in particular, you can watch it and just say, oh, I don't like their aura. I don't like their vibe. And that's okay, because this is just for entertainment. This is all nonsense. What did I say a couple weeks ago? We're watching a bunch of rats scurry around the castle. We don't have to always feel so bad. So this week in particular, I just was pissed off at Mark. And I don't have a reason or rhyme or any other explanation to give you other than he was pissing me off. He just was. Maybe because he was flopping so hard. And I was so mad at all of them flopping. Eric too. Tara and Johnny voted Natalie, and so did Eric and Mara. And then that's when Natalie reveals she was a faithful. She's like, today a gamer got played. I'm a faithful, so good job guys and then natalie storms off and everybody was so bummed like ah man i like when they overreact even tara tara was like definitely overreacting and she was at least giving me a show it was like finally someone's putting on a show because tara started crying when natalie got voted off and it's like you guys are all here for one more day and you're playing a game on tv like i didn't understand why Tara's got tears and the waterworks are coming. Because she's like, I gotta go. And she was even telling everyone. And I thought maybe that could have been a good gameplay move to tell everyone to vote you out. She's like, I can't do this anymore. I can't do it. I'm done. This is just, I can't do this anymore. I just feel so pathetic, she said. And I'm like, maybe that's a good gameplay move because then people are going to be like, oh no, look how serious she is. She's definitely faithful. Do you know what I'm saying? Anyway, let's take one more quick break here and then we're going to come back and finish this up. Yeah. Starting a business means wearing many hats. Designer, marketer, manager, while chasing your vision. Shopify powers millions of businesses with tools to build beautiful stores, create content, and market with ease. From inventory to shipping, everything runs smoothly. If you're ready to sell, you're ready for Shopify. Sign up for your one euro trial today at Shopify dot NL. That's Shopify dot NL. And we're back. If you got a problem with me, it's your problem. It's your problem. Speaking of slurring, I feel like I'm slurring a little bit because I did. I do jaw Botox because I have TMJ and I just did it in my you get it in your master muscles. but I feel like it makes my, I don't do filler or anything like that, which no shade if anyone does, God bless. But just the masseter Botox, I feel like my mouth is not opening as wide or whatever. Be the first time for that, ladies and my right. But I'm having trouble with it. So I feel like I'm slurring my words a little bit. I promise I'm not drunk this time. But anyway, if you've never done it too. If you have TMJ, I highly recommend it. Do it twice a year. They inject the master muscle, which is like that side thing. And I learned about it from Bethany Frankel, who I hate to say that name, but yeah, Bethany had always talked about she gets an inner masseter muscles and it makes the masseter muscles go down. So if you kind of look like you have chipmunk cheeks, like I noticed when I stopped doing it, I get the chipmunk cheeks because I grind. And so the muscles get swollen and bigger on the jaw. And so when you get the Botox, it loosens it, and then you don't grind. And so it goes down a little bit. And so it does weirdly also slim out your face, even though you're getting something injected into the master muscles. But more importantly than that, if you're a grinder at night, it's the only thing. And I wear the mouth guard. I've done all the things. But if you have TMJ and you're a grinder, it is the only thing that's helped me. So I do recommend that. But the day you get it, you might be a little slurrier the day after. Okay, so then where are we at here? Everyone's bummed. Tara starts crying. She's like, I feel so pathetic. And it's like, it's just a game. And Mark says that Tara's not that good of an actor, so it can't be her. And now Mark is starting to suspect Eric. And Johnny Weir, he's also suspecting Eric. And he says, if I'm murdered, avenge me and vote Eric. Now, Johnny thinks that Rob and Eric are the remaining traitors. And so I'm like, oh, good. They're starting to pick up on this. But ultimately, I think they're only going to be able to get out one traitor, right? So are they going to get Eric or Rob out? That's why I think Rob is going to win the whole thing. He's got to win the whole thing, right? Am I crazy? Unless there's some big shift or twist or something, I feel like Rob's going to win. And honestly, I think he's the only one who kind of deserves it. Because all the rest of these dummies, I don't think they've been spot on with anything. And so maybe they deserve to all go home empty-handed. because Rob at least is playing the game proper. But Alan walks into the round table and is like, okay, everyone's going to gather and we're going to go around this casket and they're all going to gather around a casket. Which, I'm sorry, even if I was voted out, I know this is a TV show and it's all production or whatever, but I've said this on the podcast before, I don't think that's good vibes or I don't think that's a good thing to do to get in a fake casket. I just don't, I don't know what it is. Maybe it's because I was raised Catholic and all that stuff is still ingrained in me, unfortunately. But I feel like it's bad vibes to get in the casket. So if Alan was like, oh, you're murdered, now get in the casket. I'd be like, no thanks. You can just, well, just cut to me home. You know what I mean? Like in the edit. Figure it out in the edit. Or maybe get a stunt double or something. It's like, make the stunt double go in the casket. Like, I'm just not doing it. I just feel like that's not a good it's not a good vibe and so we're going to see it next week if somebody's got to get in that casket but it was like a real casket and even on like Halloween I'm not the type that's going to be popping in a casket to scare people outside the porch if anything I'm going to dress myself up with a little hay and pretend I'm a scarecrow that's what I would do if it was Halloween I was trying to scare little children I'd put in I'd put some hay in my clothes and I'd say oh I'm a scarecrow and then I'd jump out when they come to get the candy. If I wanted to do that. But otherwise, or I'd maybe dress up in Alan's blouse and just scare people that way. I'd find another way, but I don't think I'd hop in a casket. You know, on Halloween, some people have it, and you go to their front door, and then they pop open the casket. I just wouldn't feel comfortable doing that. Call me crazy. I just don't. But they end the episode without telling us who was murdered. They're going to be doing it in front of everybody. And next week's the finale. And then I think we're getting the reunion, which we still don't know how many parts. Is it going to be one part, two part, three part? Are they going to drop it all at once? I feel like it's going to be one part. It's hosted by Andy Cohen, too. So Andy, he does a good job at the reunions. He does. Although I don't really understand. And look, I love Andy more than I love him. But I also think some of these reunions, like, it's not a Bravo show. Like, why don't they? Some shows need to start trying other reunion hosts. Does he need to host every single show? Reunion? I understand on the Bravo Network, but this is a Peacock show. It's like, can't we get a little more creative, Peacock? And again, I know Andy's going to do a great job. And to be honest, if it was somebody else, we would all probably complain. I'd probably get on the microphone and be like, oh, they did a shitty job. You should have hired Andy Cohen. But just culturally, I think maybe we need to start trying some other people's. I'm not even saying me or anything. I'm just saying, like, it would be nice to see, like, how somebody else handles that. Am I crazy? But we love Andy. I'm not saying anything against Andy, because, again, I would probably complain if... Remember they had... Remember Nikki... What was her name? Nikki Minaj hosted part of the Potomac reunion, and it was like, oh, I miss Andy. You know, like, immediately Andy goes, I'm like, where is he? You know, like, put him back! You know? But I don't know. It would be fun to see, like, somebody else, maybe. Anyway. That's the end of the episode, you guys. We're going to try to do a Traders recap next week for the finale. We're going to watch what happens. And I can't wait. But my prediction is Rob. I think they're going to get out Eric. And then somehow Rob is going to be the last one standing. He's going to win the whole prize pot. Which is, I don't even know what it's up to because I skipped past the challenges. So I'm not sure how much he's going to win. But I think he deserves it. I have all the people left. I'm just not sure that anyone, what, am I going to give Mark the money? or Eric, Maura's not, she don't deserve the money. Like who else deserves the money? Tara and Johnny, I'm sorry they're finally coming alive at the end, but it's like, they've been wrong the whole season. So I don't think they deserve the money. And also they had an opportunity to go after Rob. It was like Tara started to, and I think Johnny too, they were suspecting Rob. It's like they didn't, they weren't able to rally everyone against Rob and said, get out Natalie. So it's like, I don't think anybody else deserves the money. I just don't. Whatever money that is, the Buffalo Wild Wings gift card that production's going to provide them with after this is all said and done. I don't think anyone else deserves it besides Rob the Snake Handler. Anyway, thank you all so much for listening. And again, if you're not watching Summer House, check out the Summer House Recaps because we're having a good time on the Summer House Recaps. Also, if you want to, check out my Patreon page. It's patreon.com slash everything iconic. For $4 more per month, you get access to the bonus episodes. I do just one a month where I'm recapping Sex and the City. There was just a new one posted over there. You can also, I think, just buy one recap for $4. I don't know how it works exactly. I probably should. But I'll explain it to you on the website. But patreon.com. P-A-T-R-E-O-N. And again, just one bonus episode a month. Real low lift over there. More importantly, it's to support this podcast. But I do have fun recapping Sex and the City. So if you want to hear recaps of Sex and the City, they're over there. And we're already on season five, so there's a bunch of them that you can listen to, a back catalog. And then what else? Find me on social media at Danny Pellegrino. Get my books wherever books are sold. And we'll be back next week with a Summer House recap and then hopefully a Traders recap later in the week. Love you all. Have a great weekend. Bye-bye. Starting a business means wearing many hats. Designer, marketer, manager, while chasing your vision. Shopify powers millions of businesses with tools to build beautiful stores, create content, and market with ease. From inventory to shipping, everything runs smoothly. 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