2026 PGA Championship Preview: Questions about Rory, Bryson, and Aronimink
120 min
•May 13, 202618 days agoSummary
The Shotgun Start hosts preview the 2026 PGA Championship at Aronimink in Philadelphia, focusing on course setup challenges, player storylines, and the broader debate about how modern equipment has made classic championship courses unable to properly test elite golfers. The episode explores whether the wide-open field and equipment-driven gameplay will produce compelling tournament drama.
Insights
- Modern golf equipment has fundamentally altered how classic parkland courses function—players now hit wedges into approach shots that historically required long irons, eliminating strategic depth and bunker defense
- The PGA Championship's move to May has positioned it as a 'bridge' event between the Masters and US Open, reducing its perceived importance and creating scheduling fatigue rather than championship gravitas
- Equipment regulation (the rollback ball initiative) faces credibility crisis when elite players like Cameron Young succeed with conforming prototype balls, suggesting USGA/R&A solutions won't achieve intended distance reduction
- Championship venue scarcity is creating a vicious cycle: courses can't host majors without extensive modifications, but those modifications undermine the original design intent and player experience
- The pairing sheet reveals organizational dysfunction—Russell Henley paired with a club pro despite being a top-10 player; Dustin Johnson paired with Michael Block at 6:45 AM—suggesting poor championship logistics
Trends
Equipment-driven golf inequality: Five players on tour using conforming rollback balls while others use standard equipment, creating unequal competitive conditions at majorsBifurcation debate resurfacing: Industry insiders now openly discussing need for separate equipment specs for different player levels, reversing decades of unified equipment standardsChampionship venue crisis: Only handful of US courses (Shinnecock, Winged Foot, Augusta) can properly challenge modern pros without extensive modifications; traditional parkland courses rendered obsoletePlayer-governing body tension: Tour players increasingly dismissive of USGA/R&A authority, claiming amateurs shouldn't make rules for professionals; echoes of pre-LIV power dynamicsMay championship timing impact: Moving PGA from August to May reduces narrative weight and player preparation time; creates perception of secondary major statusCourse setup discourse dominance: Pre-tournament conversation dominated by infrastructure complaints, bunker placement, and rough conditions rather than player matchups or storylinesScorecard par manipulation: Courses reducing par (Aronimink is par-70) to artificially inflate perceived difficulty without addressing fundamental equipment/distance problem
Topics
PGA Championship course setup and design philosophyGolf equipment regulation and rollback ball initiativeModern equipment distance advantage and course obsolescenceChampionship venue availability and infrastructure constraintsPlayer pairing logistics and tournament organizationBifurcation debate in professional golfUSGA/R&A regulatory authority and player relationsMay vs. August PGA Championship scheduling impactAronimink Golf Club restoration and playabilityRory McIlroy form and toe blister injuryScottie Scheffler major championship favoritesBryson DeChambeau YouTube content vs. competitive focusPhiladelphia sports market and fan engagementClub pro integration into major championshipsStrategic golf course design vs. modern player capabilities
Companies
Titleist
Discussed extensively regarding conforming rollback ball prototype used by Cameron Young; criticized for historical r...
USGA
Primary target of criticism for rollback ball initiative credibility crisis and poor coordination with manufacturers ...
PGA of America
Host organization for 2026 PGA Championship; criticized for pairing sheet quality and organizational logistics at Aro...
PGA Tour
Discussed regarding player exemptions (Ricky Fowler), scheduling decisions, and relationship with governing bodies on...
R&A
Co-regulator with USGA on equipment standards; implicated in rollback ball initiative credibility issues
Augusta National
Referenced as example of course that solved equipment problem through property acquisition and course lengthening str...
ESPN
Mentioned regarding broadcast pairing decisions and coverage of featured groups during championship
CBS
Broadcaster for PGA Championship; discussed regarding ratings and coverage strategy
Taylor Made
Mentioned as sponsor of Sixers-themed golf bags for players during championship week
Callaway
Referenced as equipment manufacturer in context of modern golf technology discussion
People
Andy Lack
Co-host providing course analysis and championship preview commentary from on-site at Aronimink
Brendan Quinn
Co-host contributing player analysis and championship logistics discussion; drove 31 hours to cover event
Joseph Weisenthal
Guest analyst providing equipment regulation and course design expertise; wrote analysis on rollback ball implications
BP
Guest contributor providing player interviews and on-site championship coverage; briefly disconnected during broadcast
Rory McIlroy
Major championship favorite; discussed extensively regarding toe blister injury, course strategy comments, and pairin...
Scottie Scheffler
Consensus pick to win championship; praised for elevated course design analysis and consistency in major championships
Cameron Young
Central figure in rollback ball controversy; using conforming prototype ball while competitors use standard equipment
Bryson DeChambeau
Discussed regarding YouTube content focus potentially overshadowing competitive golf; practicing late evening hours
Carry Hague
Primary target of criticism for range setup issues, lack of transparency in course communication, and perceived bland...
Michael Block
Club pro in championship field; paired with Dustin Johnson at 6:45 AM; known for showmanship and crowd engagement
Dustin Johnson
Former world #1 paired with club pro Michael Block; ambassador for Perfect Practice putting equipment
Jordan Spieth
Paired with Rory McIlroy and Rom; discussed as potentially struggling in modern equipment era despite major champions...
Justin Thomas
Paired with Cameron Young; criticized for dismissive comments about amateur rule-makers; allegedly stealing Young's e...
Keegan Bradley
Discussed as potential home-game storyline despite being from multiple locations; paired with Justin Thomas
Sam Burns
Selected as pick to win by Pete; praised as emerging major championship player with recent Masters success
Jon Rahm
Selected as pick to win; discussed regarding Spanish Slam narrative and consistency despite recent struggles
Aldrich Potgieter
Identified as potential surprise winner given course setup favoring short hitters and wedge play from rough
Brant Snedeker
Discussed as best-case scenario winner for entertainment value; would create Ryder Cup captain selection drama
Luke Donald
2025 Ryder Cup captain; discussed regarding potential pairing with Snedeker and captain selection implications
Terry Clark
New CEO appearing Wednesday; expected to address rollback ball controversy and equipment regulation credibility crisis
Quotes
"It's a major. I'm very excited, quite frankly. I was here today. I was driving out and I was on the shuttle, which makes you feel a little less major."
Andy Lack•Early in episode
"Carrie Hague is the epitome of this phrase chewing on your wallet. The conversation with him."
Brendan Quinn•Mid-episode
"Golf has the most sensitive sallies of any sport. You know, like all the people inside the sport have these little rivalries and quibbles with everyone else."
Andy Lack•Mid-episode
"This is emblematic of this great sports city, Philadelphia, and one of their great venues being completely overrun by technology and the modern golfer."
Brendan Quinn•Course design discussion
"We need to take X number of yards off the game or whatever. We need a 10 percent reduction or whatever you want to word it. But this is what we're doing. And they need to work together to figure out the best way to achieve it."
Joseph Weisenthal•Equipment regulation discussion
Full Transcript
Now the shotgun starting golf is full of mathematics. There's a lot of setup work that we have to do in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a shotgun start here. And here we go. Alright, alright, alright. Gentlemen! Start your engine! Greetings and welcome to a Wednesday edition of the shotgun start. It is May 13th. Andy, how we doing? Brendan! I'm doing alright, you know? I'm getting my legs back about me. Legs back about you. What were you sick? Were you at sea? What is this alright stuff? I need more enthusiasm, more pep. We're on the edge of a major championship. What is this alright me? I drove like 31 hours in a span of 48 hours. So, yeah, I bet better, you know? Alright, alright. We have a big major ahead of us. We got a good preview. Although, is it a major? Who knows? Someone's... It's a major. I know. Someone whose opinion I respect, who's not bombastic, said this is a PGA Tour event with a bigger trophy. As I was walking out tonight, I was like, oh my god. Just, it was totally like non-hot take artists just totally blindsided me with that. But no, it's a major. I'm very excited, quite frankly. I was here today. I was driving out and I was on the shuttle, which, you know, makes, you know, feel a little less major. I gotta say, it's nice pulling it a lot, walking to the media center at the Masters. And having to get on the 30-minute shuttle. I was like, everything... You can send a message to the USGA, give us on-site parking or else. Chinacoc? Yeah. Yeah, I had good friends with... I talk with a lot of our good friends at the USGA and elsewhere. But it feels... Honestly, it feels like a major. Is that like just the most subjective, ethereal, nonsense, pablum bullshit? Sure, maybe a little bit. But I was driving out. I was like, everything about it. It's a major market. The build-out feels pretty significant. It's tight. Not a big... Not a giant golf course left for the modern major build-out, which is a separate conversation. And I don't know. I just... I got quite frankly pretty excited about the week ahead as we were pulling out after the day. And there are issues with the golf course. Maybe we'll get through. But I'm pretty excited. I do feel like it's major. I shouldn't have felt very consequential and like a big, big week ahead. I would echo that. As someone who's driving, getting his news and bites and, you know, calling PJ to see what's going on, you know, every couple hours, you know, catch up. Lots of stuff happened. A barometer of a major is just surely how much stuff happens during a week. And I feel like there's a lot of stuff flying around early this week. It's been a good week for content. It's really good week for content. It got to like noon today. And I was like, well, I'm already like, you know, business peat, I could justify this trip. I got enough. I got like 45 minutes. I could podcast them. There are players really mad about the range set up. There's issues with Carrie Hague on this and that. I've got blocky speaking engagement, you know, thirst and pricing. I've got lots of stuff we can get into before the night's over. As a fellow compatriot, you know, we stand as a league of gentlemen who have interviewed Carrie Hague and tried to pull information out of Carrie Hague. Me and you. Yeah. This was when you worked at SB Nation. I had him on the fried egg pod. So we've both interviewed Carrie Hague. Tough guy to get information out of. Oh, just, I mean, I see me with a case just like this young naive media person, like, oh, you're giving me like the setup guy. This is awesome. Like this is great. And then it's just, it's just brick wall running into a brick wall. I used this on our little YouTube video we did on Monday. My friend is this old man has this old man saying, I was like, talking to a guy who's not interesting or just tough to talk to. It's like chewing on your wallet. Carrie Hague is the, is the epitome of this phrase chewing on your wallet. The conversation with him. Did you see the, the PGA championship social video with, with Carrie? No, I didn't. Is it just popping with charisma? Did golf course kind of primer social video with Carrie Hague. This is the guy in charge of setting up the golf course. I, I see it flash on. I'm like, all right, let's see. I'd like, you know, knowing, knowing what I know, I'm like, there can't be anything in this. There's bunkers. There's grass. I mean, you just basically hit what he said. He said, we're going to a run amic. It's a Donald Ross design. It's in Philadelphia. Then he said, uh, Gil Hans restored it. And then he said that there's lots of bunkers and some nice greens. And that was the, the video. I asked PJ, do you think he just read it right from the, the golf course fact sheet? I mean, if you needed the fact sheet to get that out, then we have bigger problems. Honestly. Cause that's pretty, that's pretty wrote, um, which to be fair. He can be that way if he's really good at his job. I think there's some quit. Like some people say he's great. I have some people tell me today's like the most overrated and there's always these problems that he's just created this milk toast just, uh, to put it in a more PC way, uh, sort of wimpy, like, you know, wimpy, what's the out cow, cow to the players type, bland major. That's one point of view. Another is like, he creates good setups that are drama free and that, that tend to, you know, produce compelling golf tournaments. Um, I'm not sure where I land on that. I think golf, uh, golf has the most sensitive sallies of any sport. You know, like all the, all these people inside the sport have these little rivalries and quibbles with everyone else. Oh yeah. And, uh, it's rife with like insecurity kind of and like, just like a person couldn't know you from Adam and you just like, there's just these daggers you like throw at people, whispers and things like that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like this can't be the case in like the NFL or the NBA. This just can't, I'm sure there are, but like there, there, it just feels like the, the more this industry, the more everybody's just trying to stab each other in the back. Uh, that may be, maybe a little bit. I mean, you mix in some agents, you mix in five, you know, I want to, competing's too strong a word, but bodies, maybe more than five throwing the DP. Like, yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of whispering that goes on when you're, I was, I was staggered at the amount of whispering I got about, I mean, I, I'll tell you who hates in the lead here in the first, carry Hague, that we've talked more about him than Aaron McScheffler, Roy McElroy, you know, Fitzpatrick, Cameron Young or anybody else. Uh, but just to give you a sense of the, like the Hague discourse, first thing I got this morning was like, players are fuming about the driving range. I was like, all right, this is what I want. Feed me more. Like just curious about the driving. What is it about it? So it was kind of crazy. It was like pushed back, like, you know, they've got to get through seven ish days, right? So they moved the rope around. Well, the rope was always all the, all the way at the back. So there was no room to set up track man's. There was no room for the coaches to be properly aligned or standing, which just made me chuckle. Like there were coaches retreating to the media pen. They've got one of those cattle pens for the media. So they were retreating so they could get a better view from behind. Maybe like that. You know, you take the driver out, you had to couldn't walk by almost get, you get knocked out. It was just very, it was very tight. And I was just dying. Oh, the pampered F's can't set up their track man in a position that is, you know, you know, most perfect for their range session, which made me laugh. But that was, that was had people worked up at carry. You know, to give you an idea of how they treat the media at Shinnecock, they had us on the very front edge of the range. It was probably probably about a seven degree downslope. Not usable for the pros. Yeah. And the wind, the wind was humming like 30 miles an hour off my left. I was like, I might as well not even hit golf balls because this is pretty much the worst setup you could give me. What are you doing? One of those things that was delightful about Scotland is like, I don't think we touched our driving range or hit a single ball. It was just great. Even the old chorus included just roll out there. It's great. Delightful. Did you see Roy's comments about how the wind being off the left at Quail Hollow at the range for six straight days or five straight days is what screwed them up a little bit and why he started over correct missing left that the range with being consistent for a week. You see him. You see him regularly go to like different sides of the range. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Sure. You're left. That's just range with the wind off your left. That for a righty, you better, it's better to not hit golf balls. I mean, that's not an option for a major championship. I just, I don't think it is. I mean, Brooks, he did it at the, the St. Jude. What he hit five golf balls the one year. Carlos Franco. Yeah. I guess he wouldn't do it allegedly. I don't know. I think that's like something that like a recreational golfer wouldn't know. If the wind's blown off your left, do not go grind on the range for two hours. Like that's a bad decision. Go putt, go chip and putt. I mean, can we just be honest about this? If you're a recreational golfer and don't spend two hours on the range for any reason, win or no win. That's insane. I think I've gotten so far away from grinding. Yeah. That I'm, I'm interested in grinding and having that be a part of my golf game. We call it golf life. Like two hours on a driving range. I mean, I would chip and putt for two hours. Sure. That's, that could be fun. If you find a good, good area for it. Um, so range drama on my, a Tuesday. I love, love that. Oh, it was hilarious. That's gotta be, you know, I can't set up crack now. PJ was telling me that Bryson's odds are just going up through the roof. Maybe it's because of the range. Oh, it's not a, well, maybe that's why he's going at seven 30s. Going at dark, you know, every night. He's just been totally MIA. I don't know if he's filming YouTube videos during the day and then he's going and practicing at night. I don't know what's going on, but he, I think that I think he probably is going late because that's when his audience, his, his YouTube metrics tell, tell them that his audience is most active. It's like an SEO play or whatever. Optimization play. Um, what do you think the main, the star of this show is, what do you think the main event is storyline one? We have like a pinky toe gate problem. My guess we could talk about with Rory. I don't think that's the biggest story. Um, I, I just, can I cop out here? Yeah. I was thinking about this a lot on the car ride. Like what is the lead story? Yeah. I think it's just that there's a major up for grabs and maybe this sounds strange because it's always up for grabs. We have had, you know, every major basically since live has had this live undertone. Now it's like dying, which is an interesting undertone, but you don't have, you don't have the, the Rory grand slam that the masters had. Scotty, Scotty, I think you could put into the top bucket of, of, of storylines, but I'm actually, I actually think that it feels pretty wide open and that's the story. Okay. I think it feels wide open. Why do you think that's the case? I just think that this golf course, um, well, I think a lot of things are coming ahead here. I think this week is very emblematic of, of where golf is, um, and how golf doesn't really fit the modern professional golf doesn't really fit a lot of places. And what are the places that might not fit? And before Philly sports fans come at me and say, Oh, you know, Mirian plus one, one, you know, blah, blah, blah, you completely bastardize the course to manufacturer score. But I think that it's just emblematic of this great sports city, Philadelphia, and one of their great venues being completely overrun by technology and the modern golfer. So you have this big storyline as someone who's, you know, kind of always been on the course beat since I got into golf. This is the most I've ever seen course discourse ahead of a major. And it's kind of wild to me. It's like all these people are complaining about, Oh, the scores might be like 16 to 20 under. And we're, we aren't addressing the elephant in the room is that like all of a sudden 7400 yards is, is a tiny golf course for these guys. I saw Rory's projected on data golf to hit like three shots above over 150 yards or something like that. A non par threes. Yeah. Or I mean, what are we doing? Yeah, I think that's, I think that's, but to my greater point, the golf course and the fact that these clubs are going to be available to everybody, like short clubs are going to be available to almost everybody in the field. It makes me feel like this could go a lot of different ways. And I want to say, I think a run to make is a wonderful golf course. And all these comments from, you know, from Rory about trees to Xander Xander being just like patronizing, like speaking in a tone, like the members are so dumb. It's like, you know, you know, who gets to enjoy this golf course for the next 10 years without you, you assholes running around the members that are on a make. It's a way more enjoyable place for them play golf. They, and you know, I would generally say they don't really care what happens this week. This is not a place trying to host a major every six years, five years, 10 years even. It's hosting this major. And I think this tree work was more for member play necessary or just the general health of the golf course. So anyways, it's just a great classic. If you want to use the analogy, a great classic, I'm not going to say it's Fenway or Wrigley of golf because it isn't. But this is like Tiger Stadium just not being able to, you know, Tiger Stadium got replaced because it was old, you know, and had shitty infrastructure. It's not getting replaced because it just can't host. It can't challenge baseball players anymore. So this is being this golf course is being kind of drug through the mud. And, you know, and then you could get into the whole Cam Young titleist discourse here. Maybe. But anyways, this this this golf course, it's a wide open field because I don't think it is going to, you know, test in a major championship way golf. And yeah, I think that's the storyline. I would I would agree with you. I think there's a I think the golf course is absolutely the biggest storyline at the start of the week. Whether you want to through that through a lens of it's an open thing. It's very open, wide open major. I think there's a larger storyline of like has kind of an entire maybe the most densely rich area of the country for championship golf courses is like kind of not available for proper major championship play. I'm not going to say a proper finishing score. I think like the way Wingfoot was played, probably not what we would call proper, right? In terms of like full credit to how it was done, but that wasn't necessarily what you would think it's how it should be played. There's like Shinnecock. And that's like available. That's it. And that's a different deal because it's, you know, out on the end of an island with wind. Just wait. The Oak Hill people are going to say, what about us? What about it? I just you made this golf course that's a gazillion miles long with I don't know. Narrow fairways and Nick Ruff. There's like all the isn't that a problem? If like all these incredible cities with these incredible golf courses and you have Roy saying this strategically non-existent off the tee and that was less a comment about like trees and more coming about like, hey, I can hit it 350 yards. I think Jeff Shacklford talked to him today and it was like, you know, but yeah, you are like exceptionally you are like the top of the tape pyramid on lawn. He's like, we're all long. We're all long enough as we said, like they're all like maybe there's probably a few. He didn't say that there's a few that might not be long. Everyone is long enough to pick the strategy out of this. Right. Campbell's not. He gets, he gets the late. Did you see the Gabby Herzig piece? I saw it. I didn't read it. You're talking about how, how a lot of times the bunkers aren't in its way because he's short of them. He's short of them. So that feels like a thing. That feels like a greater comment. You know, Winfrey was the canary in the coal mine, I would say of this in 2020. That feels like a real problem when you start looking out at the most populist part of the country with the most championship history, tradition golf courses and, you know, can that be a style of what you can call this parklands? You can call it whatever suburban golf, whatever you want to call it. Can't really challenge like professional golf in a proper original way anymore. You know, I, the way I would describe this in kind of layman's terms, the challenge of, of Aranamank and Rory hit on this is the greens. The greens are really cool. They're some of the best greens in the world, just like Augusta. They aren't like, they don't, they aren't built the same way as Augusta, but they have similar effect as Augusta. They have a ton of slope and then they have these little pockets that you want to get your ball in. And if you get your ball in there, you're going to have really good looks. If you don't, you have really hard putts over ridges or, you know, chips where you have to judge it. And instead of Augusta where it's short grass, it's thick rough here. But anyways, so you have these, this, this dynamic of you want to get it into the right section where Augusta's just bought property for tens of millions of dollars or hundreds of millions of dollars over time to extend their golf course, to retain the, the, some facsimile of the iron shot that you would hit in being long, especially on long holes. So think about the fifth hole. You hit a really long club into that really severe green. Most courses like Aranamac just, I mean, they can't, there's no justification for spending this money and buying the $4 million home on the whatever hole and backing your tea up 20 yards. No normal course is going to do this. So what happens is that target is really hard to hit with a long iron, really hard. And you have to hit a really great shot. And what's happened is that this golf course is become, you hit a wedge into that same target and it becomes so much easier to access that target. So that's in, in short, what's kind of happened to so many of these great golf courses, Wingfoot included. And I think you were right about that being the Canary in the coal mine. And I, you know, listen, like this, this golf course, as I was described, I, I didn't have much speed today. So somebody made a comment to you guys that I didn't have much speed. I mean, I would need to work off speed. Yeah. But like, I saw this in playing, I, you know, I said this, this is not a flex. I went on like a media circuit tour basically for next year, last fall, played Shinnokok, the US open host, Marion and here. And I am, I would be on the bottom end, the very bottom of the PGA tour driving distance. I found Iran a very challenging with a pro shot, more challenging than Marion and almost as challenge, probably about equally challenging as Shinnokok. But that challenge gets so watered down when you're hitting a wedge in. And, you know, I, you know, I think the course of the main, main star for a few reasons. One is this larger debate that you've talked about, that the one that might be wide open. I think there is a little bit of mystery about it. I think there is, you know, I think people will make judgments based on the score. Okay. That doesn't necessarily mean what's happening. Like these guys are all still just hitting wedges, right? I mean, and it's not just Roy, it's, it's, it's the guys who are average length and, you know, it takes sort of the, it takes a little bit of the, the teeth out of the greens. If I can just kind of muscle a wedge from the rough to like the front, and then it just runs into where it, like that's kind of what we're seeing happen a little bit more, as opposed to having to make a real, having to hit a fairway or having to make a real like mid to iron shot to a spot. Like it takes a little bit of the strategy going out of the green. But I'm hearing like the prevailing notion this morning, the majority opinion, I think is coaches, caddies, players, these guys are going to tear it up. They're going to light it up. It is going to be low. The scores are going to be low. Guys, you know, there's, you know, Thursday and Friday, you got to get 156 guys around. There's club pros and any manner of people they could just got to get through. They can't have, you know, five scores in the 80s and they just can't have it slow. And that's probably true. There'll probably be some really low scores early on. But I also got like a sense then the day progressed and it was firm. It was firmy, firmish out there and the day progressed. And like I got that, that started to come back a little bit. There was like, like, oh, like there is a little bit more. Oh, like the guys who played in 2018, like this is different place because I was soaked in 2018. I saw Matt McCarty as he was walking out. I was like, you know, I don't, I think like all these guys in the media saying everybody's just going to like, it's so easy. It's all, they're full of it. And so there was a little bit more as now we might get a shower on Wednesday, but I think we've done okay to get some firm conditions. So I think there's a mystery about how this score might go. I think it's the 10 to 14 number, but if you're interested in part, this is a par seven. Sure. Yeah. So this is with two, this is, this is par 70. So there's, you know, not four par fives. There's two par fives. So your score, your total score, like people have this illusion with scored a par, but like Augusta's par 72, they wanted to reduce scoring. They could just go to par 70, you know, and the perceived challenge would be greater. This is a par 70. So this is set up, you know, relatively in a relative scheme is as tough as it can get from a par perspective. So I, I think, you know, like, I think what people also need to disassociate is, is score as good. You know, like a score, if this, if the score is this, this equals good. I do think this does, especially if it's, if it's firm, present something where it will still be tough to get into those pockets from the rough. And I think that's the key to this golf course is if the Greeds are firm this week, it will present, Hey, if you're in the rough, it's going to be hard to get to some of these really small, uh, tucked hole locations. And Scotty talked about that. You know, it's a completely different course, but if they get significant rain this week, it is, it's going to be a shooting gallery. Scotty was super eloquent talking about the difference between a firm and soft golf course and how much it changes. I, I just, just to put a bow on the score point, like Philly Cricket Club last, I guess it would have been last, yeah, about this time last year, like everybody shot like 64 on that first day. And then I think the winning number might have been single digits. I think the tank, like it kind of, I think he's at 12. I remember, if I just off recall, I feel like 12 or something like that one. The final, like it was, I think there were course records. There was like three, four course records, quote unquote, at the first day. And then it leveled, that doesn't mean like bunkers were still in play or that like they weren't still hitting wedges into everything. And that may be, so there's like disassociate the score from the whole issue of like, that still doesn't mean these guys aren't going to be hitting it over every single bunker. And if that's like, that's just the quibble that you have with how this major, with how these courses are not played, how they're supposed to be or were intended to be. We'll see. Do you think there could be any scenario which like, I don't think this will be the case with the PGA, but where the greens are just too much, where the greens are like, they get too firm or too fast or they're too severe, too unjust. I'm hearing like some mumbling about 11 is like too much. There's like a pinnable area on, you know, the heat map, but there's allegedly all the bull. Is there a way that there's a problem? Not with Carrie Hague. That was chewing on your wallet. I know. I don't think that's the case. What's your big story? What do you think the biggest storyline is? The course, I think for all the reasons, I think there's a bit of mystery about it. I think there's a larger comment on where the professional game is. I just, I think like what I was kind of getting at with this course diatribe is like, I do like, majors are usually 10 to 12 guy races. I think that this golf course and this setup, and this is not a critique, you know, it could be, it could make for an awesome tournament because of this. I think it's going to open it up to a lot of guys. You know who's one that could get in it gets into the first storyline of the week. He's never played well. The storyline nobody's talking about for the week. He's never played well and had a major championship, but he's looking to maybe go back to back. The Philly fanatic, Seth Stratka, looking to go back to back in Philly. Here are the events. Could this be where the tank comes rumbling out? You know, he's used to aerial warfare. Are we getting a little bit more ground warfare? And the tank is in play this week. I mean, what if he's like, just becomes the favorite, like this adopted son? So he picks out the BMW Philly Cricket or the Quayle, whatever it is, truest, the BMW Philly Cricket. He gets a PGA at Arana make the next year. Mary in 2030 is coming sooner than we think. Maybe he just becomes Mr. Philly fanatic as the storyline nobody's talking about. He's a good pick. He's a very gamey pick. PJ and I were talking about this today. We think that we think the storyline is nobody's talking about. It's the best thing we do on this podcast. That's just not, I hope that's not the case quite frankly. I've done eight years of semi-serious podcasting with some irreverent jokes in between. But yes, it is good. It's very fun. People like it. Okay. Do you like the tank this week? It was just our first storyline. But I actually, no, I think that usually these setups are such that there's short clubs are so unavailable to medium length hitters that the over time the distance really separates. Or tremendous skill in the sense of like a Scotty where it doesn't matter where he's hitting his approach shot from. Like this week, everybody's going to run at this Rory number of like three approach shots over 150 yards. But what that means is that everybody else is hitting way shorter approach shots than they're used to in majors. I would just point out, and we might, if one of the best players in the world wins, that should be, that's just kind of the way major championships have worked lately. But I wouldn't be surprised to see someone win that is not like who you wouldn't expect to win a major based off their recent history because of this. This golf course requires when it's firm still a lot of skill, but the distance is much, you know, that distance advantage is actually, I think a little mitigated. I think what, I think, yeah, another way of saying it though too is also like the advantage decreases when you are, call it like 100 to 125 guys as opposed to the Rory's at 130 and other guys hitting from 160. Right. I mean, that that starts, that advantage becomes a little greater, right, as you're hitting longer and longer clubs. All right. Maybe that's not extreme enough, but yes, it might bring a lot more guys playing Rory ball or whoever, Bryson ball kind of stuff that they're living in that world for a little bit. Fascinating. I think it's a fascinating golf course. I don't, a lot of people are saying it's blah. A lot of people are saying this came up too soon. I don't know that I'm there. I may be like, was on the back foot a little bit coming into the week, but I'm pretty much, I'm pretty engaged with everything that's going on right now. Another comment I'll say is like, it sounds like they don't think this is big enough to host a major because of all the, like the infrastructure stuff. Right. I mean, that's another comment about where we've gone here. It's just insane that it's a big place. How few places can host? It's congested. Yeah. It's just what is the, what are majors anymore? Are they, I mean, we see it with the open a lot about where you can't go to Turnberry. You can't go to Mirafil. The bodies and all the infrastructure, that seems like a problem, but this one, go ahead. You know what the number one storyline nobody's talking about this week? What's that? Let it rip. Gonna fly now. Is that a Rocky Balboa? You know, I've never watched the Rocky movie. George Smith looks to channel Rocky Balboa and search for the slam. This feels like a, you know, I can't believe how muted I think Phil has, would have as more buzz at US opens at age 55 than speed does in the heart of his prime, well, alleged prime of his career for the slam. I mean, you got the marquee pairing. He's with Rory and Rob, which feels like just one of these things is not necessarily like the other right now. But that could be ESPN, you know, KVV, seriously ESPN, like, speed is a needle in those situations. You know, they'll probably, I think they're out early Thursday, so they do that late Friday deal, and they'll have those guys and put them up in lights on Friday and that's the pairing. Yeah, I wouldn't say it's muted. You think like nobody's even talking about Jordan Smith? Yeah. I don't think anybody is seriously talking about him. Oh, seriously, he's a separate. That's a good qualifier. I just think they're talking about him. Plenty. Like, I don't think there's any, I haven't seen anybody be like, you know what, he might win this week. Oh, well, that's, yeah, that's insane if people are going there. That's just not, that's not, yeah, not a credible argument. He's close though. It's just one thing each week. What do you got? What do you, what do you, what's another nugget for the ground that you picked up today? Well, Roy's toe is like a thing. It's not not a thing. He was walking around with no shoe on and he bailed his practice round after three holes. I don't know. Fitting in, Roy's toe blister lays the long line of odd Philly sports injuries. What are the other ones? What are the other odd ones? I mean, you got Embiid. Is always a mystery. Yeah. Ben Simmons. Yeah. That's fair. Mark Elfoltz's shoulder exploding after the number one overall. I noticed all the golf bags are Sixers themes. Like, that's a bad week for it. Cali did it. Taylor made it. I think it's a good one. Because they're all going to be red, white, and blue next month for the U.S. Open. I just couldn't figure it out. We've got Andrew Bynum and the list. I believe Ryan, Ryan Madsen, after a playoff game, kicked the chair and broke his toe. Vaguely familiar. Yeah. So that's another toe one. Look, you got enough close to the person. Look at the toe. I did. I mean, I wasn't looking for it. I did. Look, he's still like, I don't think it's impacting his swing, which is good. It doesn't mean anything for his golf swing. It probably is not fun to walk, which is going to be a thing. Maybe he applies for the John Daly cart. Can you see him scooting around in a cart? PGA is giving it to John Daly. What if he won? What if he wanted a cart? Wendy and Stephen A on Monday. I've never wanted a cart because he had a blister. Look, did we even talk about the Stephen A take ever? What are the postures? I just said, I'm not indulging it. They're just putting cat in a bow for us. They just want us to take the bait. It's on his right side, his pinky toe. I don't think he has a toenail. It's some blister. He's getting wider shoes. He wrapped it today and that lasted only three holes. Seems like a problem, but also you wouldn't want to be walking around if it hurts today. If it's a major, if it was actual round, he'd probably keep it going. You would like him to be 100% and he seems like this is a real nagging thing. But if he can swing fine, then so be it. He gets his wider shoe and separates it or whatever they were talking about, he's going to do. That's fine. He said it was something he's never dealt with before. It's not like a recurring thing that's pestering them over the years, but it's going to be a toe watch here for 24 hours going into the person. There's going to be a lot of toe talk. I think maybe, just being the media, being the way they are, him being the player, the prominent stature player that he is, but he felt like a happy boy. It was quite a turn from last year. I think there's a clarity of what motivates him. I think there's a real comfort with what he's achieved and what it means for what he's done and what he wants to do. He was just talking to everybody. He was holding court today. I think he's number one and Strobes gained off the tee, number four. He's having a very good year. It's been his best with the back and the other toe, but absolutely story. Could he go for the season slam? I'm not going to go there, but I think given the way that he's pretty comfortable with the course and saying it lacks strategy off the tee, it feels like he's very game to win as long as the toe doesn't get in the way. JLM, I got to call out JLM. He just joined the studio here. He called out on our preview show that the setup might feel very O'Killie. Then Rory referenced O'Kill as a similar setup. Why does it feel O'Killie? I think for the reasons that Rory described, the older school golf course tree lined and then you got a little bit, you can swing away with driver and there's not a whole lot to discourage it. Yeah, the winged foot, O'Kill bucket. I think you can throw a lot of these courses in that bucket. Yeah. Thanks for bringing me out, Andy, and even hanging out backstage while you guys were cooking. Wasn't there, wasn't the point that- Do you have any wine? I was thinking about getting a ceremonial glass when I heard you were joining today. Wasn't the point that it's not tree lined though? Isn't that his point or the several of the players' points today? Sure, but if there's anything to dissuade you, it's a potential tree. There's no water. There's not going to be like, there's no coast. There's an R.T.J. Memorial pond on 17, I think. Can I ask a question? Please, it's your podcast. If your shoe's causing you issues, is there anything stopping you from just playing barefoot? It crossed my mind as he was, you know, stepping about on the fourth T-Box. Could he just do this for the rest of the day? It feels like given where he's at right now, it could be an infection risk. I don't know what's going on. He's like- He's just dunking in hydrogen peroxide. Whenever I get a cut as an adult, I feel like that's where you just dunk it, whatever thing you have in hydrogen peroxide. It'll fix everything. How are you feeling about him this week? Toe included or not toe included? I mean, I think he's in a good mood. He's one of the two best players in the sport. He's in a good mood. The golf course fits him well. I mean, it comes down to, does he- I don't know. Is it bad week T-18 like it was last week? Yeah, probably for the standards that people put on him externally. What are you giggling about over there? Me? Yeah, you're a giggling boy. I just heard something in another room. What do you think of bad week? Is T-18 a bad week? Is that fair to say? I think that probably- you walk away disappointed. If you picked Rory, you walk away disappointed with T-18, obviously. I kind of expect him to be in the mix. What about Scotty? What would be a disappointing week for him? Anything more than T-4? Yeah. I think he's my pick to win. That's very obvious because I have a one and done. I haven't used him yet. I'm just going to use it right now. I've taken him too. Oh, you are? Yeah. We got to stay hot as a gambling pot. So we got to get shocked. I'm going with Scotty because I have him. He's available in my wallet. Pete, do you want to make your pick while we're here at 56? Yeah, let's do it. All right. I mean, we're not even close to done. This is actually- this will be the storyline nobody's talking about. Gambling pots get a back the blue this week. Can the deputy chattel Nick Foles and take over the starting job from the sheriff? I'm taking Sam Burns. I love this. I called him out this morning to someone who was complaining about how American golfers are really boring. I was like, you know what? Should be a good Sam Burns week. Lags his way to a win. And I'm like, oh my God, they're talking about the boring American golf. That's a great pick, Pete. Great pick. We just saw him do it at the Masters. Yeah. He's slowly becoming a major player. Good punter. Just got to get on the green wagon down there. Here we go. Back the blue. So if he wins, we're Scotty in this scenario. Is he- Well, Andy, I discussed that. No. We got to figure out- Sam gets promoted from deputy lieutenant. Sergeant, yeah, whatever the order is. Yeah. I like Sergeant Sam. That seems like a good title for him. There you go. LaManya, who are you picking? Let's just stow the Easter eggs right in the middle of the podcast they're picked. So where does nobody- Joseph, I loved your tweet last night. I got into my hotel that I stayed at last night at one in the morning. And I hadn't really been online at all because I was driving. I took the pledge with Jordan Spieth. And I opened it up and I saw yours at like all the touts. This is what I've gotten from the touts this week. You have to be good off the tee, good with irons, good around the green and a good putter. There is a lot of that happening. There is a lot. You know, if we just pick Scotty, these people like, I love Scotty this week. Rory, love him, Cameron, he's like, like, they list these names and it's like the top five player fits. He's good. Yeah. I mean, I know like you were supposed to say that, but just- What do you think of this guy? Oh, I like him too. Yeah. Ludwig. Xander's got to be like him. Like, what's going on right now? Every skill, all through, you know, putter to driver and every club in between is important this week. And you like the top six players in the world. They're good options. Well, I will say one of my buddies texted me, like, can you pick the top four finishers for me and the BGA? And I said, sure, Scotty, Rory, Cam Young. And I can't remember who I put fourth, but it was like, you know, John. It's like, if you're going to say, like, pick the top four, I'm going to go with those guys. Who are you picking, Joseph? Since I'm committed to using Scotty at Memorial, told myself before the season started, that's where I'm using them. I think it's a really good pick, but I'm taking Rom. I'll take Rom. Oh, Rom's a sad boy. We want to get into that. You didn't look that sad. Did you think you looked that sad? I didn't think he did. It seems sad. He looked, I'm just going residually offered live Virginia. Let's come on. That looked pretty dire. Let's be honest. Honestly, you know, he's talking about how he never looks back at decisions in his press conference. And then like, it was great by Shane Ryan to basically re-ask the question. Yeah. And then it was like, he basically got to the point of like, well, I couldn't have foreseen this happening. But you know what? You actually could have seen this happening because that's what happens when there's a completely delusional business model centered around one key funder is that if somebody, the funder leaves, that would be a risk. Yeah. I'll tell you what, wouldn't be a risk to this podcast though. We are very appreciative. Perfect practice. This is why we diversify. We are very lucky and fortunate to have perfect practice. Before we get to perfect practice, this is a tie-in with perfect practice. I had one game within the game that I wanted to present to all three of you. And it involves perfect practice ambassador, Dustin Johnson, who I know has been logging the hours on his perfect practice putting that you know, who's paired with BP. I didn't see it, but I did get some up close. Hold on. Hold on. Did they put them with like people? Are you serious? No. No way. No. Disrespectful. Honestly, one of the two greatest players of his era. It's so disrespectful. So I present you with the game of the game of the week. This is the game of the game of the week. Who's that usually on the game of the week in the NFL? That's Troy's. No, it used to be Troy's. No, it's Brady. Oh, America's game of the week or whatever. America's game within the game. Blocky versus DJ. Perfect practice putting Matt, Dustin Johnson ambassador. Dustin Johnson will hopefully have a leg up on Blocky. Thanks to his perfect practice putting Matt. The putting Matt is the highest quality for realistic putting experience crafted with unique crystal velvet material that ensures smooth and precise ball movement, simulating real greens. I wonder if DJ had input there with the, well, not this crystal, but that crystal velvet. The chip shot, they also have an automatic ball return, not just a putting Matt, but a chip shot, a chipping device with an automatic ball return, chipping net. It includes a grass mat and target that lets you get a ton of reps in without chasing balls. Andy loves these claims. He's into grinding again. Maybe he gets his chip shot relocated in his new location and get going. You can too at perfectpractice.com. The promo code is SGS. You get 20% off. 20% off with SGS at perfectpractice.com. The Matt, the chip shot, get it going. DJ was in there. I got some words from DJ. It sounds very different. This is a course that he doesn't remember at all. That may be because it's different or it may be because he just doesn't remember it, but I think it's the farminous versus the softness of what they played last time. The rough is a little different. The rough is a little patchy, I would say, based on what I could see. It's very hit or miss. Right. Right. Right. Roy compared it to a memorial style rough at one point and a comment to DJ. They also were talking about Tuesday night dinner next year, which was fun. The masters, you know, just making jokes about taco Tuesday or what it's going to be. So good conversation with DJ. He seems pretty happy place. DJ. I don't know about Michael Block. I don't know about if he knew about who's playing. Who are you guys taking? The blocky DJ undercard. I would like to point out that Brendan, I think if we review the tapes, Brendan's actually responsible for blocky. I don't think I don't think it's if we reviewed the tapes. I think everybody knows that at this point. Someone made the analogy. Like this was like someone who whispered in Donald Trump's ear in like 2014, like you should run for president. No, you could do that. But like Thursday, I was responsible for blocky. That's not Thursday. It was Thursday morning of the PGA at Oak Hill. Yeah. Blocky doesn't walk and talk and one media member perks up and tweets out something along the lines of what a refreshing, gentle, quite insightful. That's real walk and talk. It was real walk and talk. Now, what did we know? I think it was what a breath of fresh air. This is what walk and talk should be and how you get the corporate financial team integrated. Now, by Sunday, I was out to be clear. I was out by Sunday after we got wordy to ask for a walk and talk on Friday. Again, like actually went and approached. Can I get a walk and talk? Here we go. I found it. Do you want me to read it? Yeah. I love that you found this. This walk and talk with club pro Michael Block is awesome. One of the better club pro integrations into the tournament that I've seen at the time. Follow up tweet. Follow up tweet. Threaded another tweet. It's largely because of block who seems super enjoyable and insightful. I knew insightful. He's in there somewhere. You are like the end of Oppenheimer where he stares into the camera and thinks I have become death destroyer of worlds. That is what you have done here. So anyways, I think Brendon should have to take Blocky. No, I'm taking DJ. I'm taking DJ. This is unbelievable. I cannot take block in any real way over DJ. Even if you think DJ is semi-retired, not worried about playing competitive golf. I can't take block. You guys want some good block insight from his practice? Wait, what's everybody else taking? Can I say, is Rasmus Huygaard eligible as the just tormented third man who has to be subjected to this? No. What or the other? All right. I'm taking DJ. Lemania. Let's have a little fun. Let's have a little fun. Block party. Brendon said this is extremely disrespectful to arguably the second best player of his generation. I wasn't even sure who you were talking about. All right. Come on. You know what? Who do you like, Andy? I enjoyed watching DJ play often times, but there's only two players that I've shared inside the ropes experience with at a PGA tour course playing. I'm taking my guy, Michael Block. Oh, you played with them. I forgot. Blocky's already setting this up as his swan song. He doesn't think he's going to play the big PGA anymore. He's totally going to the concession from now on, now that he's 50. He's completely inevitable. He will always be here. I know someone who was with Blocky in a practice round or just intimately watched it, followed him, said, he spent the whole front nine instructing the crowd to clap when he made putts. So he would please clap when he would make his putts or hit shots. He signed over a hundred things through nine holes really quickly. He was audible calling shots out to the crowd as they're in the air. They said, quote, absolute showman calling out shots in the air to the crowd as they're just letting it rip. He's also apparently, he's available to speak for a fee this week around Philadelphia. Good. Nice little five figure fee. So he's cash. I mean, as he said, five figures low five figures or call low to be fair. Call. He used to run around cameo. He didn't, he didn't accept our cameo. We did LaMaria requested pay for it. I tried to, I tried to get him to announce thirst bucket of the week, like set, have a prompt that I'm Michael Block announcing thirst bucket of the week. He took the money though. No, it got returned to God. Okay. Blocky is as available this week for 24 hour delivery at the low low price of $125. So you think we could, we could try. I mean, we could get it for Thursday show if I ordered it right now. No, I got to take DJ with self-respecting anything on Ram. Anything further on Ram. LaMaria, why are you taking it? Why are you so intrigued by him this week? Well, I have one question about Ram. What's the Spanish slam? Every spanish, Spaniard has won every major, but the PGA. So they just call it the Spanish slam. That's a real thing. I guess. That seems like kind of insane, but yes, I mean, they just make these tenuous connections whenever they can. I mean, I don't have any like crazy reason for liking Ram other than that outside of one week, which happened to be a very important week this year. He's been a really good player and he's been consistent. I'm not like obsessed with Ram, but I think he could have a good week. I think the doubt of, he was in the mix last year's PGA, like he's still a great player. He might not be what he was, but I don't have a lot of concern about. I like him more than Bryson. Yeah. I think, I mean, this seems like an apology to the Spanish listeners that were offended by PGA's pronunciation of Catalonia. Oh, they were upset about that on Sunday, Monday. Yeah. He is a better pick than Bryson. Why are you out? Does that mean you're out on Bryson or you just This is such a good setup for Bryson theoretically. It is. Can we talk about how he's like not a not a professional golfer? Oh, he hasn't been like that great in crunch time at majors or non crunch time at majors now since pioneers. Do you remember what he was like at the open at St Andrew's? I'm just, I'm excited. I'm so excited about being back to being a pro golfer. Yeah. After the lifting, like where he got, I mean, like he just gets like these like fits of like obsession and he got obsessed with the lifting, the power adding bulk. You know, then he's like, oh, I'm just excited about being a pro, a professional golfer again. And he wins, you know, the US Open. But he at the meantime, at that point, you know, YouTube was a thing he did. It feels like he's just become like so into YouTube that once again, pro golf and YouTube and building these clubs that pro golf isn't the focus. Do you guys think there's a chance that Bryson's never really like a consistent top 10 player in the world ever again? No. I don't mean to, but I think like, I think this is just going to be the way his life works for yo-yos. You know, like, listen, he could go win this week. I wouldn't surprise me, but like it could be just this thing where yo-yos between like how into pro golf he is, whereas interest just wanes, which is, it's kind of understandable. And I think like a lot of people in their own career could relate to this. Yeah. Yeah. My hotel, well, I find just one on the fritz here in Philly. But no, I think it's an interesting case study. Look, like he's kind of a man on an island right now. And maybe that like motivates you to play your best golf, right? If he is like, feels like caged in, but I don't know that he's that kind of guy. Like, I don't want to say he's like, you know, remember like when LeBron went, he wanted to be the villain. But like he actually, he wasn't really wanting to be the villain. Rob is like going through it right now. He's kind of boxed in and maybe that, you know, motivates him to prove something. But I don't think he's really comfortable with where he's at right now. I don't know. My one-fifth word. Bryson just wants to be loved. You know, clearly. It's the core of Bryson, right? Do you feel like that's falling off a little bit? I think it peaked a little bit of pine arse. Like he had the people at the palm of his hand. I don't know. I guess we could see again this week. You don't think that adds to the money at all? I don't want to go too hard on him for South Africa and whatever he was dealing with. But I think there was some of the, there was some of the similar energy of wanting to be loved there and through every time we've seen him since. BP's frozen. BP's out. Oh man. Look at that screen crab of his face. It's like the perfect face to be frozen with. We might have lost BP. BP's down. All right. Where are we going next? Should we get into some storylines nobody's talking about? Let's do it. We might as well pick it up here. He's still frozen. I'm checking on him. Where do you want to go? You lead us. I got one. We've talked a lot about setups. You know, Rory's saying it's strategy-less. Joseph, I have a question for you. Is this the week to trust the process? Potty? Potty. If it's strategy-less, it is about passionate driver. Could this be a potgeater? Aldrich Potgeater week. You kid, I think that it is not crazy that Aldrich Potguider could have a good week this week. I don't think that's crazy. I suggested this as a serious, we don't mess around with these graphics. I suggested this being serious. You know, he dominated on a rough laden, rather shortish Dal Ross design. I like your call, Andy, from earlier in the show that we could see some names that we don't always see in the mix at majors. And I think Thor Bjornsson comes to mind for me as somebody that we could see. And I think potgeater is also not a crazy name to suggest. Some wedge shots out of the rough, if the greens are a little bit soft. I mean, he's got that shot. Honestly, I don't think it's crazy at all. I think there's a real reason that Victor Hovland seems to flash every PGA is because all these PGA courses have the thick rough around greens. Yeah, I don't think Victor's got some driving issues, but this I like the potgeater call, Andy. I think this is a good call. I mean, you brought up another name. Yeah, this is a professional segue here by you. Hammer down, Michael Thor Bjornsson can replace Noah Cindergaard as Philly's premier sports Thor with a big week this week. It's a home game for him, too. I almost went that way with this graphic. I didn't want to double down on the home game, but if it's a home game for Keegan, Michael Thor Bjornsson is from closer to Philly than Keegan is. So the home game models also inherently have to apply here. Hey, you guys sped this around. I didn't watch it. I mean, Brendan is coming back in now. You're back BP. You just missed. You're going to start potty potty storyline. Nobody's going back for you. Yeah. Trust the process. I mean, he's so small. I walked right by him today. I wouldn't say Kazuki Higa who you could put in your pocket literally, but potty is so he's like tiny now. He's tiny. Potty. Trust. All right. All right. Potty was done by Thursday at like 10 minutes into his first round at the Masters. Hey, BP, how about Keegan with the, with the, this is a home game. I just, you know, he's, he's beyond caricature at this point. Keegan, he's, you know, he's gritty from Queens. He's grew up in a cabin in Vermont. He's from Boston. He's, you know, grew up, you know, inside the green monster as well. He's from Jupiter. He's best friends with Michael Jordan. Now he's from Philadelphia. I don't know. It's just, well, to be fair, though, the questioner was thirsty, like looking for the narrative to write that like he's a home game. So I just thought it was more like he loved Carrie Hay, you know, this is perfect. He gets it right. Hand up. That was not the song they were singing about six months ago at Beth page. I don't think they were. Right. Sympotico. It was interesting. I mean, a lot of, a lot of different stories about that. But yeah, it was interesting. Where are we at? Another game with the game I had. Yes. Could Keegan do well this week? Well, here's the game with the game. Keegan, Luke Donald, or writer cup hopeful captain, but shot down stu-sync. Or Snedeker. Or Snedeker. If Snedeker wins, does he have to be on the pickup team? I noticed that last week, I'm not doing it. If he wins a major. This could be the best story. Number one story could be Snedeker winning. Number one. Are you out of your mind? Number one story. I was picking up where I'm throwing down to. Andy is 1000% right. Brant Snedeker is by far the most entertaining outcome. Are you kidding me? What? I think he's right. Jordan Spieth completing the career. No, no, because that, that would get, that would get out of hand. If Brant Snedeker wins, come on. Okay. It'll just be hilarious. Sned's wins. We're going to get press releases about record setting ratings on CBS Sunday because Snedeker is the best outcome. Snedeker winning is unbelievable for three weeks. Snedeker winning is unbelievable for a full year. He would have to play the pickup. He would. He said he's a one to major. You'd have to make him play. So you're going Snedeker, Snedeker, and who? Keegan and a game within the game. And LD. I like Snedeker. After I just, just not LD. That's, that's a guy, Brendan, who does not watch the Champions Tour. Luke Donald. Stue is dialed right now. Stue is seeing it. Oh, I'm not. I mean, this is. I understand. This is one of the best players in the world. I'm Snedeker just won on the PGA tour. That's not like nothing, man. You know, even when the senior PGA. All right, fine. You beat corporate senior, senior advisors. I think PGA deep down thinks that winning a senior major is harder than winning the Myrtle Beach Classic. I think Bernard Lager would agree with me. I mean, that's patently not true. Lamanya, can you add a data point of view to that? That's just not. It's definitely not true. It's not true at all. Who are you guys taking? I'm taking Sneds. I still, 1000%. Who do you guys? I'll take Snedeker. I'm just rooting for chaos. I'll take Keegan. I'll take the active player who should have been on last year's Ryder Cup team. That's a fair, that's a fair question, a fair, fair answer. What do you guys want to do next? Should we do tea times? Yeah. What are some of our favorite tea times? I cannot believe Blocky. I missed Blockies with DJ. That's insane. I gotta say, there are some just horrendous. It's worse than it usually is. I've never looked at a tea sheet. It got to the point. I was writing them down and I saw the first one that I was like, oh man, that might be the worst tea time of the week. And then I was like, wait a second. That's not that bad. Like Bill Mao, Chris Gabriel, and Taylor Pendrith is like your third tea time off, second tea time off 10. And I'm like, man, that's a tough pairing. That's like a good pairing. We occasionally sometimes say to nominate worse pairing. It can't include a club pro, but like many of them do. Can I just real quick, while we have the boys here, how are you feeling about Cameron Young, arguably maybe the best player in the world right now in his pairing? Did he get jammed? Like I would say put a speed with Rob and Rory. It's a little just incongruent with the way the thing in the world is right now. Being to Spieth to do that to him? Honestly, yes, I do. Spieth's going to have that moment that Rory had and what was it 2011? I don't know, 2015 when Rory was like, I just don't know how he shot 68. How the hell is he to under par right now? Walking out the 15th green? I think it was. It's like one of those NBA dunk contests and like there's just a guy there that like just can't get up like the others and was like, oh, well, he's just doing two handed. He's just going up to like, Spieth's not there right now. That's not to discredit what he was. He's just not there. I do think that was the total jamming. On the Cam Young thing, as Joseph said, comfy pairing. As comfy as you can get. Keegan Bradley and Justin Thomas. Now, I, as I said on Sunday, I'm a little worried that we have a space jam situation developing between Justin Thomas and Cameron Young as JT is stealing his shoes, his putter. What's next is he going to steal his dad, his PGA coach dad. We're going to dad swap now too. Where is the where is the line really? But it's a very comfy pair. Steal is conforming ball. You take his conforming ball. Do you think that, I can't believe we haven't talked about that yet. Do you think that that JT as a past champion requested this pairing so he could get a closer look at what Cameron Young was doing inside the ropes? Maybe that's, maybe that's, yeah. Two forwards champions requested this pairing. Keegan and JT probably put their thumb on the scale. JT's essentially a PGA board member at this point, you know, with his dad and winning two. I think he's got a lot of power there. Maybe he requested it. That is, I just feel like camp should be where he is right now. It should be a little higher, but some more real power. I don't think him would, if he could hand pick a pairing, I think that's pretty much who he'd pick to play with. I don't disagree with that. He and JT are like boys. Apparently JT is one of the pros who took him under his wing like early on in Sam's career on tour. They do a fundraise or they do some kind of like junior rider cup event together. I know Cam gets along with Keegan. I actually think it's like the dream pairing for Cam Young. I don't disagree with that. It just feels like he's on a different feature group level right now. None of the boys took Cam Young. Well, the thing about, the thing about one and done is that you can only use guy once. And we've done that already. That's fair. Didn't pick him for a major. What are some other horrible things I did? All right. Let's go down good pairings. Okay. Let it right out of the gate. Shaddick, Alex Fitze and BG Ben Griffin. I thought how did Shaddick, how did a club pro get put in this group? He's from rolling green. I think he's favorite. But still like why, why is it with a guy that's one of the hottest players of the world, Alex Fitzpatrick, and then Ben Griffin, who's like a bonafide top 15 player in the world. Why are they playing with a club pro? I mean, there's 20 of them. They got to put them somewhere. Opening shot, right? That's the point. Yeah. That's Shaddick. Because he's been in the, he's apparently been a pro 31 years and he's only played around to make, not a pro. He's been in the area 31 years and he's played around to make only twice. Well, didn't he say in competition? No, I think it was twice. He's barely played it. So, uh, brain, Shaddick. What do you got next? Uh, Jimmy Walker, Jason Duffner, how tongley? I had that down. I did only do cursory research, but I immediately was drawn to that. What's going on here? How long is like a real player? How long is sneaky a major player? Like sneaky a major player will find himself in, in the conversation at the very least. He was in the final group of the open championship last year. Yeah. I just, uh, I can't stay with you guys that aren't real golfers anymore. Duffner and Walker, I just, I, I, I don't know. I, it was striking me as worldly, real open to seeing the light, the, the humor and lightness that some of like the, the younger players get from how to, how Tom that, uh, feels like tough scene for how it's on, if I'm being honest, you know? Um, so yeah, if you a little lens, uh, into, you know, the worldly, what you're talking about with Jimmy, you know, I heard a report, this is a, you know, the inside Intel is, you know, this is just, you know, anecdotal. Jimmy would wear like his full sponsor kit regalia every day to the club that he plays at like full logo doubt. Like, Inspirity or whatever it is. I heard this years ago and it's just like, it's like, every time Jimmy Walker gets brought up, I think about this and the person told me, it's like, yeah, like he just, every time he comes to the club, he is just fully decked out in the sponsored gear. And it's just like, wait, you don't have any other golf clothes that you wear? They're free. Free clothes. Oh, that's a terrible pairing for how it's on. Terrible. I mean, those guys are just going to get, they're going to be trying to break 75. What's another bad one? Uh, well, I, I got a good one. I had that as a good one. Okay. The whole one that I'm interested in. Okay. Fine. Well, I'm interested. I just, I, I'm interested for not maybe good reason. I put it down as a good one as well. Um, I like this, this one made me smile early in the T sheet. Johnny Kiefer, uh, Rico, Hoey and Nico Hoy guard. It's just, it's just great to see our guy, me and PJ, the Hoey heads of this podcast. He's in a major. He's, he's got a shot because he's in the field. I mean, if it's just bomb and get it out of the rough, Rico Hoey's got that shot. I'm a, I'm gonna have to, I might have to have, send you some cash to put on them for me. How, how Elvis Smiley having to watch Davis Riley and Martin Kiemer. Yep. That's on the list. This is a good, that's a good pairing. That's an interesting pairing. What do you think they're going to be talking about? I mean, that could be damaging to Smiley, like having to watch that, you know, this could be scarring in a way, right? Just what's going on with Davis Riley? Oh God. I watched Dave, I walked with Davis Riley at the masters. I think it was early Sunday morning and I was like, let's just go drive fly. And he hit shots into places that nobody has ever played from at Augusta national. I felt bad for the guy. He didn't shots 40, 45 yards offline. So I would not expect Davis Riley in the top 10 here. He was a runner up last year. I was gonna say, that's how he's in the masters. It's how he's everywhere. Real question. I don't want to incite an entire giant fan base, but is there something that goes on with Alabama golfers and not being able to find the planet with their driver? That's an interesting JT Dunlop Davis Riley. Could we create, could we come up with some sort of like, you know, they were paying the players before it became legal or were they like cheating or something? And then like they get exposed when they go to the pros and the play. All the damn drivers or something. No, the tides cheat. I just was thinking about it there. Should we go to the, to the, maybe a saving effect? Could be a saving effect. No, I mean, I thought you, any other you're gonna say are Alabama guys just not good. I wasn't going to be that harsh and direct. I mean, the thing is, they were all very good at one point or another. Yeah. Yeah. We can, we can do, you know, JT won one, a PGA recently, but I don't know if you guys saw this. This, actually, I saw this come across my feet early in the morning and I was really disappointed with how many picked it up because do you see what the guy that he beat at the PGA at Southern Hills? Do you see what he's doing this week? Vito Pereira, just dirt by our mountain biking. Thank you for this news update. That's great. Look at this. Watch this video. He's, he's like out there just mountain biking this week. PGA is happening. He was literally one swing away from winning PGA and being, playing in the PGA for the rest, basically the rest of his life. That was retired in a mountain biker. You know what? Good for me though. That looks way more enjoyable and fulfilling than coming to Philadelphia and getting punched in the face as a golfer who's only half in anymore, right? But it is a remarkable, remarkable fall from grace. Literally was at the PGA championship on his driver. He could be in the McKeel zone. He could be in the Walker and Duffner zone. He could have had a trophy even though, you know, I saw McKeel today. He's got a stand back sponsored by the Make a Wish Foundation. I still feel bad about what I said to McKeel. Why? Oh, you said like, court counters. He's got no chance. Yeah. He had a nice, yeah. Yeah. McKeel, he had a tough draw. Doesn't he have a hard draw, McKeel? Brennan? It's Brennan and Garakigo. Yeah, that was on my list. That was on your list of bad. I mean, every draw is tough, if you show on McKeel at this point. Let's be honest. All right. I have a wise man with a smother man. Do you have that down, PGA? The wise man with the smother man was also on my list. The smother boy. Smother boy. Let's be proper with our names here. Well, it wasn't going to rhyme, but yes, the smother boy for this podcast. Also for this podcast, the final tea time of the PGA Championship on Thursday. Siddharth and Yelamiraju, Bert Cheeseburger, and the Bumblebee and the Salam. God, that's a great group. Such a good people. That is incredible. The film put together just for us. Was the Cheeseburger on 2016 with the Bumblebee on that Ryder Cup team or was it 20 years ago? No, he was in Paris. Yeah, he was in Paris. No, he wasn't in Paris. I think he was. Oh, he was. I thought he was with the straights just getting massacred. He might have played on two teams. He might have been both. Maybe. Maybe I'm wrong. The Bumblebee is the, I, you know, I thought LD should have been paired with the Bumblebee to get a good look at one of his stalwarts for next year, for dare manner. God, man, never some Bumblebee, Chris Wood, Thomas Peters, who just wants to like sit in the park. Like that's that 2016. Heard a story today. Young Fitzy. Young Fitzy, who was like just a boy or a long mother. Yeah, yeah. I was, they had some weak moments. I heard a story today that Terran Clark wanted to just, speaking of Terry Hague, just absolutely wanted to break Terry Hague in half at that PGA. Not happy with PGA, with the crowd control. Little did he know it could have been Beth Page. All right. I like that. That's a great group. Could Sudarshan win, Joseph? Well, I was going to say, apparently this most recent euphoria episode was a little scandalous. So Sudarshan could be pretty worked up trying to win some of these backovers. I don't want to get into his chemical imbalances or balance. Whatever is going on. If you're looking at it from that perspective, he might be hitting the driver along with. He's worked up. It's bomb and gouge friendly. All I'm saying is there are worse setups for Sudarshan, especially given what was on the television this week earlier. What else do we got for tea times? How about one time best player in the world, according to Phil Meccasin, Joachim Nieman, Tom Hogy, and Bryce Fisher, a PGA pro. Yeah. Nieman, man, that's a fall from grace for Nieman. He's in this class of, that's tough. That's tough. Can I put Brian Campbell, Adam Schenke, and Sebes as nomination for the worst? Yes, you can. That was number one on my left. I'll accept that nomination. That's going to have five people watching that group. There's going to be five people. I'll accept that nomination. And if you want to go all tour pro, tour pro, I'll raise you and Aaron Rye, Travis Smythe, and Sammy Bell, the hockey pair. There's not going to be many Philadelphia elephants outtracking that one. That's just not going to happen. Travis Smythe or Smith? I think it's Smythe. Right? What's the worst case scenario winner? Because I suggested earlier this week, it's Chandler Blanchett or Blanchet. If that, if he wins and he could, he's a signature player. Like that would be just a tough scene. What are we talking about Sunday night? That'd be a tough one. Let's see. Worst case. No, I don't want to. We don't have to blast anyone. I just need to get a drive by off Blanchett. That's fine. Ian Holtz, GM. K-Shop Bob would be bad just for PJ's peacock. I was my, that was my number one best tee time. Goddy Bob and Tommy fired up. Let's go. Do you think Bob's done being a pouty boy? No, I don't, but I have no expectation that means he's not going to play well either. What about Wendy with Cameron Smith and Brian Harmon? The all-time heater group. Major winners, but are they kind of group? You know, kind of situation. There's a big T-Mobile sign with Wyndham Clark at the end of the range, like this big and it's Wyndham Clark. I was thinking they were having like a pin the tail on the donkey type challenge, where you have to throw your driver in honor of Wyndham Clark being the T-Mobile destruction. Chief, it's just sitting right there at the end of the range. It'd be so good if they did an activation where, where fans is like a kind of like an axe throw, but a club throw into a T-Mobile sign, like, and it was over in the corner. That is, that is capitalism. That's marketing 101. Get some activation going on. Lean into it. I got a tee time I like here. Oxjay, Ricky Castiglio and Thor Bjornsson. Another good one. Great. Well, young, young gun pairing. I think the number. I also had questions about Ricky's pairing. Yeah. He's with Ludwig and Bryson. I mean, has there ever been an organization that fawns and just hands out things to player more than the PGA with Ricky Fowler? The Keel Exemption. They gave him like what, two or three exemptions? I don't, I can't think of like exemptions given to an unqualified player that like has that's been a major player for so long, but never won a major in an organization's giving them. Like you get special exceptions when you're Tiger Woods. I'll never forget talking to an agent whose player got jumped by Ricky because they just go down the world rankings or if it's international. But this was like two Americans. He's like 17 shots out of them in the world rankings. I asked like, wait, why, why Ricky? They're just like, cause, cause. But Ricky's playing well. Put him against Bryson head to head. Who are you picking this week? In that game with the game. They've taken Ricky. Honestly, I think this is a bad pairing for Ricky. Too much hullabaloo. Yeah. I think, I think Ricky needs it to be just a normal dad, just a normal dad pairing. Like put him with Russell Henley and then you'll, you'll be surprised. There you go. That's my number one jamming. Russell Henley is playing with a club pro and JT posted no offense JT posted. But this is Russell Henley. That's disrespectful. Russell Henley is the top 10 player in the world and led the masters on Sunday. A month ago. It's kind of insane. The pairings are legitimately bad. Is this another carry hay issue? I don't know who does it, but it does. It feels like someone who doesn't make pairings every week of their lives. It feels like someone who just like, I was like, oh, I got to make the pairing. This is Monday at, at 5pm. And it's like, oh, I just better start thinking about these pairings that I have to bank. Hey, I got to call out. There's a fake blocky. He's with Michael Lindberg and Anhella Aurora. Aura. His name is Paul McClure. All right. So I'm on the range. He wears a raw hat like blocky wore the raw hat at Oak Hill. I don't know. That's like from far, four years ago. He wears the raw hat and he's got like the black beard. He's just like half the size of blocky. He looks like blocky. Where's the raw hat? He's definitely trying to be mistaken for blocky. Fake blocky. Paul McClure. I can't get over them not only pairing DJ with blocky, but they're first off on Friday at 6.45 in the morning. That is just amazing. You say it's at 6.45? That's so disrespectful to Dustin Johnson. I'd love that though, because you know, that you get that weird coverage time window where you see everything. That means we're going to get a ton of blocky on Friday morning. And I am in. I'm in for that. Like a couple of years ago is Kazuki Higa. We got to remember that. I don't kill. I don't kill. Yeah. Yeah. That's blocky to that slot this year. Love that. That's great. Love that. What else? Do you have any other tea times? Any other story? Yeah. I got a bunch. I got a bunch for. I'm going to rattle down these. I'm going to rip. Let them rip. I think it's. I don't like Rose this week. I don't like Justin Rose at all. And I think it's because they paired up with two law enforcement officers. You got the sheriff. He's paired with the sheriff and the constable. So Scotty Schaeffler and Matthew Fitzpatrick to. You know, law abiding Ben are going to are going to arrest this, you know, this aging, wily criminal. They want to make sure he's not going to room room. That's why they see the McLaren irons and they want to make sure that he's not speeding and his new McLaren equipment. They got to keep them under the speed limit. So did I see he had two bags of like 20 plus irons? Full bags of. Right. Pajillion clubs on the range today. Just trying to figure out what he's putting in the bank this week. Would you rather have a toe that was like exposed and torn up under or have like 45 irons you're testing on Tuesday morning of a major championship week? Well, I've never swung the speeds of someone with an injured toe. So I can't really, you know, weigh in on that. But you know what? Like I take the toe 10 times out of 10. Why are you out on rose? Who said they're out on rose? Who's in on rose? I'm not out. I feel vindicated that he's talking about how hard of a time it was at the master. I think this iron stuff is kind of bullshit. I don't think this is a hot on my overblown. Yeah. Yeah. He hasn't played well the last few weeks, but yeah, he seems like a guy and guy who just jumps right in though majors. What other games? I got I felt like a little lack of buzz for this one. Marco Penge, the septic tank and Pat Rogers. That's yeah. Not going to have a lot of I feel like we need more buzz for Penge. What is the spacer just a little lack of buzz? There was a lot of buzz on Penge going into the masters. It feels like we need just a little bit more. It feels like there's nothing. It feels like something's missing right now. How about Harris English with Daniel Brown and Adrian Sadie? Yeah. That one was bad. Dan Brown was playing with Rory today. When Rory decided he wasn't going to play anymore, Brown cracked the crowd. Like you're not going to still keep coming with me. That's everybody just peeled off and walked away. It's pretty good. He's a fun character. How about the Zach Haynes, Alex Smalley, Chandler Blanchet pairing? They should after mentioned Chandler Blanchet. I mean, come on. I might as well just put a gap in the tee sheet. What are we doing with that? Create some room. That was like third to last. So there's this. I'm sorry. That's overly small. He had Smalley and Blanchet. We're just contending in recent signature events. So I don't mean it that they're not up for it. It's just I did like the stew steak Luke Donald Jesse Drone. Dromer. Do you think Luke's going to be, you know, telling us to thank God you're not the captain? I think the PGA of America might have done this intentionally. I think they want to get in Luke's head and see what you could have done against them. Or this is one of the guys you might have to go against. Well, right. That's one of the 12 best American players, as I've said, for months now on this podcast. What else? We have any other tea times? Well, we should say some of the big ones. Obviously Rory, Spieth, Rom, they're off at 840. Yep. Yeah. So then you got the Scotty, the Scotty Fitz, you won. And we talked about the fleet would got her up and big shot Bob parents. There's some good, there's some good parents in there. I think I think it's going to be a good major. Yeah. It's, should we talk about Cameron Young's? The ball ball. You know what? Sure. Sure. We can't brand it because this brings us to a storyline nobody's talking about. This is a surprise for Andy. He doesn't know this. Joseph and I cooked this one up. Golf Sam Hinky. Golf Sam Hinky. It's a picture of 40 pits, folks listening on audio. The famous Cam Young 40 ball is actually rollback conforming. 40 pits throughout a process gave it to his Joe L and B, Cameron Young, and it's just watching from afar as the rollback ball has taken Cam to new heights previously unforeseen. So this wasn't a rollback ball intended to be a rollback ball. It was a ball that was created that would now conform to the spin and the regulations that they want to put in. I think it's the double dot. Yes. Yeah. It was talked about after one of his wins to great lengths. Wyndham, because that was the first week he played it. This started coming around hot this morning. Apparently there are maybe five guys who are playing this, the conforming ball. And Cameron Young is obviously playing among some of the best golf in the world, if not the best, and winning. There was this conspiracy theory that Titleist was purposely making their prototype poor to cry, like foul, to cry issue, to be like, look what you're doing. You have no idea what you're doing. We're the best ballmaker. That was one manufacturer was causing issues, and maybe they were struggling to keep up. But not intentionally or unintentionally. I think, and Joseph wrote a little bit about this, does this give them another quiver in the arrow? It feels like what they've proven is at this point, all they want to do is just fight. It feels like they want to dig in and they want to fight. They just want to fight this so bad that we know they make the best ball. But they probably would R&D the best ball under new conditions. And it feels like there's this residual era from the Wally U line when this really started. Like this was a non-starter. This was suggesting that the earth is flat. Like that's where we were starting, with the notion that any rollback would be suggested. Call it at the turn of the century or probably early 2010s, just the notion of it. And so the world has evolved and changed. And obviously the distance has become much more insidious, the effects. But like titleists, they would make the best, probably the best rollback ball. And so, yeah, I was listening to a live from driving out and like Brandl and I think it was Brandl was like, well, this is proof positive bifurcation is the way the game must be bifurcated. We also now have to go to other measures. We have to shrink the driver head. We have to do all these different things. Man, Brandl is now saying that. I couldn't believe that's why I'm braiding up. That's a credible way to say this. Has titleists gone and like sort of indirectly proven that we need more regulation? Or like we know that they fought bifurcation, right? They just feel like they want to fight everything. There are a lot of things to unpack here. I think that the yelling about this is a little overblown. I also will clarify what yelling that people like this is people just being like all bent out of shape about it. I will say that I think like with the specs of the ball, like what I would be fascinated about is like, okay, so like Cameron Young, this ball, this rollback ball optimizes Cameron Young? Yes. And I'm guessing a player like Russell Henley, this thing's just falling out of the sky. Just based off their swing characteristics and what they do to golf ball, right? The what you would want for Cameron Young is like if Russell Henley put this in play, you'd be like, wait a second, he's carrying it 245 instead of 265. So anyways, that part is alarming and it kind of gets me to like my first reaction of this is like, this isn't a good look for the USGA. Like a really bad look for the USGA. And on that point, you think this was like strategically pushed out as we go towards US Open time? By who? I don't know, but everybody and their mother was talking about it by different ways this morning and then all of a sudden it's like this is going to be out there by the afternoon. That probably wasn't never mind. Go ahead. And I think that like two titleist credit. I do think this is what they've been talking about and what they've been pushing is that they believe that the rollback is is like not this is not the way to do it. Now they've been dissing. I think like in piece in parts like like to me the issue here is the lack of collaboration across all and I think it's like I think the blood's on everybody's hands. A little bit. And I think title has been, you know, historically a bad actor with this stuff. But to me, this the signals here that we need and like I don't think they need to delay anything. This what a the signals is like titleist has so many different golf balls for so many different subsets of players that they can manufacture a ball to you. A ball to any spec really quickly is one thing I know like this R&D bullshit excuse period that we need the money years to do this. That is so bullshit. OK. But also on the USGA front like this is embarrassing. Like really embarrassing that this is your big thing. And it's like, yeah, Cameron Young hit it 380 yards or whatever he hit it on 18 sawgrass. And he's going to be playing the same ball in five years when you've made this big thing about, you know, how we're going to reset the clock basically. So to me, I think like this has got to be back. I echo Brandles. This has this is a back to the drawing board moment. And I think what what is in the best is golf is too small to divide it and too small to get in the civil wars. The way this has to work and the only way this can work based off of what's happened is that titleist, the USGA and, you know, other sophisticated manufacturers have to sit down in a room under the under the agreement that we need to take X number of yards off the game or whatever. We need a 10 percent reduction or whatever you want to word it. But this is what we're doing. And they need to work together to figure out the best way to achieve it. So it actually happens because this this is a disaster if this is the case. Where like, you know, one player is not going to see any different, like is going to play the same ball. But then another player is like, you know, and I'm sure they'll be able to eventually engineer for this. But this isn't what they the bill goes to the USGA has been selling. I you didn't think anything based on the prior 20 years that that titleist would be interested in doing that, getting in or which is part of the problem of you saying like they are right. But the problem is also they have no other like they are they also don't want the alternative and the other alternative and the other alternative. Like like there is no counter proposal. This is this is the whole issue. Like this is why I said like golf is like all of them all everybody involved from Augusta National to the PGA of America. They have to come to the agreement that the sport is too small to divide it. That is just that is we already saw that with live and what happened with live in the early days. It was like this is not we don't want to do this like they can't do that. They have to they have to do something that the only way this is going to work is kind of where my head is gone with this is like if they do it together. I don't know if it is possible but you know it is kind of a kind of a crazy day. I can't believe this is like we are talking about this at 1.40 or whatever it is. It is a big issue that is from the PGA championship that happened on the PGA championship. But yes we will talk about it quite a bit. But it is crazy. I mean it is just like what a nutty situation where there is five guys playing a rolled back ball on tour. And probably being quite successful with at least we know Cameron Yanis. Joseph what was your point that this is just this proves Tyler's point that this is sort of just a nuisance. Yeah one of the best critiques of the proposed rollback is that it doesn't actually achieve the effect that it is after. And I think this is pretty good evidence of that. But hey like some guys it is not going to affect at all. And the guys that it is going to affect it is probably going to be pretty small. So if you are imposing a hurdle and extra cost and there are these frictions for no perceived benefit then I do think it is probably a pretty bad use of the USGA and RNA's political capital which they might not have a lot to spend anyway. So if this is the big initiative that has taken like 10-15 years to go into effect and it is not even going to do what they want it to do. I think it is a really bad look and then it is only going to destroy confidence in those organizations to make decisions about the future of the game and rolling back distance in the future. Like this looks like a pretty big L in the court of public opinion to me at least. Like I think it is kind of an embarrassing look. Yeah. It is interesting. Obviously it happens the week of the PGA and Terry Clark is the new CEO. It will be interesting. He is up tomorrow on Wednesday. Like PGA of America was certainly one that was kind of throwing grenades in conjunction with the tour in a prior era. So we will see what he says tomorrow. This became kind of like a hot button issue this week of maybe unexpectedly. It becomes a hot button issue on Tuesday. Yeah. It feels like the one thing that like that sort of dawned on me with Justin Thomas' comments last week to Adam Schupack who had a great story with a bunch of comments from people of like we do not need amateurs making rules for us. Like we are not going to roll. It is our game. We are going to do it the way we want to do it and no amateurs are going to tell us how to do it. I feel like after the last five years, didn't it dawn on golf pros that like they are pretty disposable and interchangeable and like the game of golf. It just seems like we are going back to this 2021 mindset. I remember there was like that great awakening in 22 or 23 where like yeah man, none of us matter. It is all like institutional. It is all like who is where are we on CBS 3 to 6 on Sunday? Are we at the Masters? And the names bar one or two can kind of all come and go. And it feels like we are going back to like that is what that was that mindset I was getting from JT of like you know we are the most important people in golf. I don't know that that is the case. Well and this is the thing how this all ties together with this week. And this is why everybody needs like everybody has to work together on this because this week here we are in Philadelphia, great sports market you know with two really good championship courses that are the technologies frankly passed by between Marion and this. And like yeah they can't play here and JT's oh amateurs like do you want to play here? And JT is going to go to Frisco next year and complain about it. You know he is going to say like this is you know it is like they complained about Aaron Hills, they complained about Chambers Bay, they are already complaining about Frisco. So we can't have new championship venues. But then the discourse of the week becomes oh this course can't test these guys enough. And there is no issue like this is why it has to be a solution. This can't be the leading discourse ahead of a major championship if you want the players on the golf course to shine and be the story. I feel like think about it. The actual players are actually not a huge story this week. No I agree with you. Yeah they are not as big a story as they typically would be I would say for a major. Why do when this topic comes up every pro just defaults to Harbert Town. I feel like every time they are like well we got Harbert Town there you go. There is Harbert Town. They will throw sprinkling and occasional sawgrass. They are only example. And so are you just going to make 35 Harbert Towns and that is where we play professional golf from January to September or whatever. And that is it. And that is where all the major national championships go. Is to Harbert Town East, Harbert Town South, Harbert Town West. I mean I don't it's just I don't know. They always throw that out. But it's just for me yeah it's really crystallized this week. I know we some people say we talk about this too much but you have this entire swath of the country that just feels the courses aren't properly played. Set aside the whole score issue. Joseph you are so smart on the core stuff. Anything you are feeling going into going I said that in eloquently. Core stuff going into the week or the week of the tournament. I think we could take a collective deep breath that we are all expecting that the scores are going to be low. And I think that that is what is going to happen. But hey if we avoid a little bit of rain and there is some wind and some firmness. Let's at least let things play out before we are already discussing getting totally torn apart. With respect to the score. How it's played. No bunkers aren't played whether it's windy or firm. I think a really good driver of the golf ball is going to get into a zone and just be pounding it down the fairway carefree over and over again and kind of overwhelm the golf course. So I don't know that here. Go ahead. I hear tank music. Tank rumbling. I will say. You know what interests me looking at the weather forecast. Yeah Thursday and Friday. Cool days. Like that could the ball is not going to fly as far. The golf course might hold up a little bit better. When I consider Saturday when I see like 80s in the forecast. That ball the ball gets juiced up and just goes. Yeah. But you've got Kerry Hague wanting to get 156 guys around on Thursday and Friday. Well you got greens. You got bunkers. And you've got long paw foes. I did not think he would be so prominently featured. He's like the cane. He's a cane of this championship. It would be interesting. They should just rename it the Kerry Hague championship. One thing they all are there's like a consensus on is like this is not a hard driving golf course at all. Like it's just not like whatever score whatever test like pretty much consensus unanimous not hard driving golf course. The other thing that we haven't mentioned that Scottie talked about is when you're trying to pack a bunch of fans onto a property that has been lengthened like guys when they spray it are often in the fans. So that just makes it even an easier to test off of the teeth as Scottie said. So even when you do get a little bit off if it's soft you might get a trampled down line into a soft green. So that's a real factor this week. I know we make fun of him as the fair police sheriff like Scottie has some really enlightened course. Yeah. Thoughts elevated. Whether you whether his conclusion is always like where you want it to be. He has some elevated course thoughts in mind you know in dissertation. So all right. What else we got anything else we've made our picks. We got to we got a couple of story like we got a rapid fire here. Yeah. You know I just we'd be remiss if we didn't get here. Whose city is it. Big big time check in with big Dom upon arrival on Philly unsubstantiated rumor. Don may be in the area. Very unsubstantiated. Allegedly he was rummaging around Monday night. This would be news to the PGA of America. But I mean just you know everything he's given us the prior 12 months. He suggests he could be the guy that says you're not going to muzzle me. And against his own best interest he shows up and you know then he will be really disposed of if he just shows up and you know struts around. What's my personal opinion on it. There is no personal opinion. I'm the president of the PGA of America. Right. I've got 31,000 members that are listening to my every word and I'm proud to represent them. Free dog. I can't believe it either. It's so sad. Well you know they haven't gone on the they haven't gone on the record and said it was a muzzling. Don can see it was a link but you know Aiman tried. Hand up. You know tip my cap. He tried. No bait was taken. Big Dom character shows up. Yeah. Yeah. I did. Yeah. Saekwan will be there too. He was at the Masters. Yeah. Saekwan is a lock. That's a guarantee. Yeah. Up next the boopers. Is Calamore Kawa worried that Philly fans may boo him because he's an injured player. I mean I don't know. BP you were there. Are they like scanning for batteries as at the security gates? No. They're fine. I'm not going to sit here and besmirch the Philadelphia fans as I have to go into the Lions done tomorrow. I would say I heard a lot of really stupid shit being said to worry about his foot, his shoe, his you know do you want my shoe. It's okay. Everybody's got blister like a lot of dumb stuff but that was just a Tuesday practice round. Boopers. You think they would boo Calamore Kawa? Maybe. You never know. All right. Up next. Can a one year Oklahoma sooner legend rule Philly just like Jalen Hertz. Is this a gutter up week? Okay, Boomer. That's a great. I've got a deep parallel one year. Okay. Thank you. Hortle. Worked hard on it. There you go. Jalen Hertz. Feels like a fine gutter up option. There's just but there's also like eight or 10 guys ahead of them that also feel like fine options. Well, mind you, you check your head. Can I ask you a question? Yeah, please. How would the boys feel if gutter up win is gutter up is a gutter up win the worst thing for the boys? Unpack that. All of a sudden gutter up vaults ahead of Cameron Young and public opinion. A, I don't think that's true and B, I'm not worried about why can't I like them both? I'm honestly all where my head was going is gutter ups the 32nd best player in the field, then he and Jalen Hertz have that in common too. That's a attacker. I like that. I like that a lot. Behind Shadour even. It's time. One more point. BP, you won't do it, but I will. Beth Page East, according to Joel and Bede, fans trying to prove Philly is still a sports town this week after the Sixers got swept up by MSG South. All the fans going down the Jersey Turnpike MSG East, according to Joel and Bede. Sorry, they don't teach geography in Kansas, I guess. But is Philly still a sports town? We'll find out because I know it wasn't last weekend. We've got people defending Philly in the comments. Marshall and Philly Cricket saying the fans were great and not like Beth Page. They're people up on Long Island, PJ. This big storyline this week, I keep hearing is like Philly is like a massive sports summer. They have like six World Cup games. There's some other event like the Escaped Game. The All Star Game. That's right. They've got this. I'd say this isn't really summer, but like the whole point was the Flyers and Sixers both got swept in the last week and now they're just gone. Nothing. I feel bad for them. I don't know. You don't. You don't. The Knicks are in a good spot. I don't think I ever will feel bad for Philly fans. Why? Because they got their Super Bowl. I think they've got a pretty, they've had a pretty charmed existence in the last few years. I wouldn't know it. They're a Surly group. Yeah, they are a Surly group, but I think they've had a pretty, they've had a pretty good. All right. Anything else? Joseph, any other Eve of the Championship takes you want to unload? We might talk a little bit tomorrow too after the PGA brass talks. Yeah, Ludwig. The name that just keeps coming in my head. I feel like Ludwig could be really primed for a win. That's going out. And then at this point, you just mentioned every player in the field like we talked about earlier. Yeah, I can't do that. Really? That's a good tout. Hyretract. Is there like a, is there a scenario where this like becomes a disaster? LaManya, like what is like a bad outcome for you? And I'm not talking about player. I'm talking about just like what happened. Chantler. No, I'm not talking about the player. If it dumps rain late Wednesday night or Thursday night and there's a really soft Thursday or Friday morning, it's that's the worst case scenario. Okay. Guys will, guys will tear it apart if that happens. Where are you guys at in terms of major championship excitement level? Zero to 10? I think Andy, I mean, just going to guess on Wednesday night of Shinnecock in a month, you're going to be at like, even if it did rain, you're going to be still at like nine, right? Where are you with this one? Oh, I think I'm, you know what, like, I think I'm like at like a six in the relative scale. I mean, like Belle Rieve and, uh, Valhalla, I was like at like a three or two. I think this like encouraged today, the more than I thought. This is just like where you wish you could like, I think this golf course could be really cool if people were hitting approaches from 170 yards regularly or 180 yards regularly. Um, I, I, this is just where you wish like, it just like from this camp, camp young situation where you wish there was just like a golf ball for every setup. And it's like, here's the golf ball. Like it doesn't have one do that where it's like, here's the specs for the week, go get it or something like that. I think they change the specs up for the year a lot. I don't know if they change them week to week. I could be wrong. I have no idea. NASCAR can do like restrictor plate races, right? This is just one where you wish like the ball, if the ball went 20% shorter, I'd be like amped up, especially with the weather forecast being so good. But I don't know, there's just something with like everybody hanging wedges all day that just is not, it's just hard to get super excited for. I, look, I, you know, I think the main date has not helped this championship. And I don't want to get into a 20 minute talk about that, but it happened so fast. And you just kind of then moved to the US Open. And I don't think it's allowed to, I think when it's in August or was in August, there's like context for a lot of like the season at that point, right? And you have this like Scotty Schaeffler is just going to, or Tiger Woods is going to keep being the ass kicker of the year. And now it's just kind of, this is the bridge. It happens really fast. And it's a bridge to the US Open. And I'm not sure it's done wonders for this championship. And the ratings have not been stronger as strong as they thought it would be. And, but then you read about the August and it's everybody bitching about it, the heat and the humidity and everybody's exhausted and there's too many majors and everybody's just done at that point. You got a bunch of fluky winners because everybody's on their last legs. So some people maybe just like to complain and there's no ideal time. But I do think it just happens really fast. I think, I think the way you put it as the bridge is right. That's probably not flattering the which makes me think maybe bridge boy is a good pick this week. We're a club pro core bridge. Maybe it's all the activation for core bridge. I need to know more about core bridge. It feels like not everything's on the up and up there. I was talking about that with somebody today. Okay. All right. We're going to do daily pods. They will be faster than this after play really rapid. We've started to make these previews sort of a hanging out session, which I think is good, but we'll be live Thursday, Friday, Saturday and probably Sunday too, just with a little delay as we digest the championship. Listen to press conferences. Listen to the sheriff talk about fairness and three Scotty's. Is that what I have? Two Scotty's, a ROM and PJ. The deputy. The deputy. Sam Slam and Sammy Burns. Loving it. All right. Thank you guys for your continued support of the Shotgun Start. We will talk to you Thursday night right as soon as play ends up winds up. We'll be live on Shotgun Start YouTube. Talk to you then. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.