Now on 105.9 FM and streaming worldwide on the WMAL app. O'Connor and company. It's 7 36. Good morning O'Connor and company here on this good Friday from your nation's capital. Are you curious about what that bunker under the White House that's being expanded right beneath the ballroom is all about? Yeah, we're curious too. Instead of guessing we're gonna get an informed opinion. Al Corby will join us at 8 0 5. He's the president founder of SAFE, a company who makes bunkers. They can make one for you and a ballroom probably if you want. Then at 8 35 we'll speak with the curator of the Apollo Collection at the National Air and Space Museum. Get the perspective here on the Artemis mission that is now two days underway. Alex Sawyer, Washington Times is with us as well and a good Friday to you Alex Sawyer. Thank you. I appreciate it. No other morning I'd love to spend with you Larry. Oh thank you. It's not just a good Friday. It's the good Friday. Father Paul Scalia, the very Reverend Paul D. Scalia. I'll thank you very much as the Episcopal Vicar for clergy at the diocese of Arlington and pastor of St. James Catholic Church and Falls Church, Virginia. Buddy of mine, Tom Sawyer just moved from Orange County, California, moved into your parish and he said, where should I go to church? I said, you got to go see Father Scalia. So you got a new parish member there, Tom and Natalie. I hope you enjoy them. Yeah, I just saw Tom and Natalie yesterday. It was good to have them in the parish. They're wonderful. Oh you did. There's there already. Pastor I'm talking about. See you there. They're great. Good job. So Father Paul, I hear a lot from non-Christians and non-Catholics who were confused by why we call Good Friday, Good Friday, considering the horror of the greatest crime of all of humanity, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. So what's so good about it? Well, first, I just think culturally, we don't use the word good in the proper way all the time. We always just associate that with something that's comfortable or pleasing to us, but things that are good are often difficult, right? And so it is good because there's this great thing that has been done. It's not just a crime that has been committed by crucifying our Lord, but it's more importantly that he willingly gave his life on the cross. They would not have been able to crucify him had he not been obedient to his father. And that's the greatest good in the history of the world that had obedience of the Son to the Father, which atones for all of our disobedience, all of our rebellion against the Creator and our Father. This week doesn't happen often, Father, but this week our Holy Week coincides with Passover. And certainly on the original Good Friday, it coincided quite a bit. Can you tell you mentioned atonement? Can you talk a little bit about the correlation between the crucifixion of Jesus and what that meant actually really starting from last night's recognition of the Last Supper and that Passover meal leading to the crucifixion of Christ and then that resurrection? How does that correlate with our Jewish friends celebrating Passover and the connection to those covenants in the Old Testament? Yeah, well, my understanding is not an expert here, but their celebration of Atonement, I think is Yom Kippur, that this Passover for them is a celebration of the deliverance of the Hebrew people from Egypt and then the formation to the Kingdom of Israel. And that coincides, ours is we are freed from sin by the crucifixion of Christ. And that is also, he is atoning for, as I said, our rebellion. And this is something that, of course, the theology which we inherit from the Jews is that there's an atonement that needs to be made. There's a sacrifice that needs to be offered in order for us to be reconciled with God. And for them, the Passover lamb was sacrificed. For us, the Paschal lamb is Jesus Christ. And so, and at the Last Supper, where the Passover meal, well, they would eat the roast lamb and we instead eat the body of Christ in the Eucharist. And so he institutes that as the new Passover meal, the new sacrifice. And so the mass, that's what the mass is. It is a sacrifice of Christ for our redemption and is also the making present of the Paschal lamb for our spiritual nourishment. Father, I was going to ask you, we talked earlier about the growing Catholic church and the increase in converts, one, and then also young people. I wanted to ask you what you've seen at St. James. Like, have you noticed increasing changes? I, Larry just talked about some people who had moved, switching parishes. But like, what about converts? What about young people? What, like, what do you think is driving that? Well, first of all, we've seen the same thing. We've seen an increase in the numbers of people coming into the church and just the number of people coming to church. And it does skew younger. And I think a lot of that is that there's a great confusion in our culture and kind of a crisis of truth, a crisis of meaning. And I think people are discovering today as people have discovered throughout the centuries that the Catholic church has the fullness of the truth. And they find there that what John Henry Newman himself, a convert called a safe harbor and a place where you can drop anchor and be secure from the confusion and the turmoil of the rest of the world, not that life gets perfectly easy, but at least you are secure in the truth. Yeah. And you mentioned earlier the word good. I wonder too, like, if people are looking for, you know, something good in this world, in our society, especially with just the various news out there as well. All but not so good. All but not so good news. That's right. Right. Right. And I think also, I think people also recognizing that we've kind of have a lot of people, especially a lot of young people. And I think there is actually a draw to the people experience when they realize, okay, I'm being challenged to do something like, you know, deny myself and take up the cross. That's not easy, but that is good. And it is beautiful as well. And it is true. And in the human heart, there's always that longing for the good, the true and the beautiful. And our culture proposing just the opposite things that are ugly, things that are false and evil. And we are proposing, we are holding forth what is true, good and beautiful. I don't get it. Just as Anton and Scalia, you know, just a giant in our lives for so many decades had nine children. One of them, our guest, Father Paul Scalia, you know, goes the way of the cloth. And then one of your brothers is, you know, just a PR hack that I got to deal with all the time. I mean, what's going on there? Well, you got to come on. He's got that great podcast. You've got to promote that. Oh, yeah. Oh, please, Father. Everybody's got a great podcast. Oh, yeah. I want to hear your not only great, his is good. All right, Father, listen, I know it's your busy time. I appreciate you, Jordy. You know what? Let me just have one more word from you. If anyone's on the fence, if anyone's wondering, you know, Oh, gosh, is it going to be weird to go back this weekend? Everyone's going back. It's, you know, it's going to be busy. It's going to be this going to be that. Give them that extra little nudge. Is it time to come home? It's always time to come home. But this is this is the best time, right? Because this is the time when when these are the days on which his redemptive grace is made presence most powerfully. There you go. Father Scalia, thanks for joining us and have a great Easter. All right, God, all right, God bless you. Happy Easter. Thank you. It's 744. 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