Summary
Jim Cornette and Brian Last discuss dangerous wrestling practices in AEW, particularly Kyle O'Reilly's near-fatal bump from a superplex, alongside commentary on Ric Flair's embarrassing Cameo performances, Chevy Chase's documentary, and a detailed historical analysis of Jimmy Londos's 1931 wrestling dominance that generated $252,500 in earnings.
Insights
- Modern wrestlers lack fundamental training in safe bumping techniques, creating cumulative neck and spine damage that will manifest as long-term disability despite short-term entertainment value
- Heel heat has been replaced by athletic spectacle as the primary draw, causing wrestlers to prioritize dangerous stunts over character work and emotional manipulation of audiences
- Historical wrestling (1931) generated proportionally larger gates and cultural relevance than modern wrestling despite primitive travel, no television, and lower ticket prices, suggesting business model degradation
- Managers and authority figures in wrestling lack accountability mechanisms to prevent self-destructive behavior, contrasting sharply with territory-era oversight and medical responsibility
- Professional wrestlers today receive guaranteed compensation regardless of injury outcome, removing financial incentive to work safely compared to territory-era wrestlers who lost income when injured
Trends
Normalization of career-ending injuries as entertainment spectacle rather than preventable occupational hazardDecline of character-driven heel psychology in favor of athleticism-based fan engagementErosion of professional wrestling's cultural relevance despite increased athletic capability of performersCelebrity retirement content (Chevy Chase, Ric Flair) revealing pattern of former stars unable to maintain dignity or professional standards in later careerHistorical wrestling's superior business model and cultural penetration compared to modern wrestling despite technological disadvantagesAbsence of mentorship and technical instruction in modern wrestling training systemsShift from newspaper-driven promotion and legitimate athletic commission oversight to internet-driven speculation and unaccountable promotion
Topics
Wrestler safety and cumulative spinal injury riskHeel psychology and audience emotional manipulation in professional wrestlingProfessional wrestling business model comparison: 1931 vs. 2025Ric Flair's brand degradation through Cameo appearancesAEW booking decisions and tournament structure ineffectivenessWilliam Regal's public safety warnings to wrestlersJimmy Londos historical dominance and gate receiptsChevy Chase documentary and celebrity reputation managementModern wrestling training deficienciesAthletic commission oversight and legitimacy in professional wrestlingManager roles and heel heat generationMultiple championship title proliferation and confusionDarby Allen dangerous stunt proposal and safety protocolsNewspaper promotion versus internet-era wrestling promotionSeth Rollins interview and diplomatic heel acknowledgment
Companies
AEW (All Elite Wrestling)
Primary subject of criticism regarding dangerous match construction, poor booking decisions, and lack of safety overs...
WWE
Mentioned as also having dangerous bump patterns and poor safety practices, though less frequently criticized than AEW
Amazon Prime Video
Streaming platform where 'Selling Superman' documentary series is available
Cameo
Platform where Ric Flair performs paid video messages, criticized for unprofessional intoxicated performances
CNN
Network that aired Chevy Chase documentary special over New Year's weekend
Overstreet Price Guide
Comic book pricing reference used to discuss Superman #1 and Batman #1 valuations
Heritage Auctions
Major auction house for high-value comic books like the $3.5 million Superman #1
Metropolis Comics
Comic book dealer conducting major auction business for million-dollar comic books
WCW (World Championship Wrestling)
Historical wrestling promotion where Jim Cornette worked with Ric Flair as booker
TNA (Impact Wrestling)
Mentioned regarding Seth Rollins' early career before WWE
People
Jim Cornette
Primary host analyzing wrestling industry trends, safety concerns, and historical wrestling business practices
Brian Last
Co-host providing commentary and discussion on wrestling topics, AEW criticism, and historical wrestling analysis
Ric Flair
Subject of criticism for unprofessional Cameo video performances while intoxicated in public venues
Kyle O'Reilly
Nearly suffered career-ending spinal injury from superplex bump during Moxley match at AEW World's End
Jon Moxley
Performed dangerous superplex on Kyle O'Reilly and won AEW Continental Championship tournament
MJF (Maxwell Jacob Friedman)
Won AEW World Heavyweight Championship in four-way match through interference and cheap tactics
William Regal
Publicly warned wrestlers about dangers of head-drop bumps after suffering two broken necks in career
Darby Allin
Set his brother on fire during marriage proposal stunt in concrete skate park, causing injury and failed proposal
Seth Rollins
Gave diplomatic interview comparing Jim Cornette and Vince Russo while apparently placating wife Becky Lynch
Becky Lynch
Reportedly upset with Jim Cornette's criticism of her pregnancy timing during peak career earnings period
Chevy Chase
Subject of CNN documentary special examining his career, difficult personality, and professional relationships
Jimmy Londos
1931 wrestling champion who wrestled 101 matches, earned $252,500, and drew 92,320 spectators in St. Louis alone
Tony Khan
Criticized for overthinking booking decisions, creating confusing tournament structures, and poor match construction
Okada
Lazy, broken-down Japanese wrestler who won Continental Championship tournament despite poor performance
Samoa Joe
Lost AEW World Heavyweight Championship in four-way match to MJF at World's End pay-per-view
Adam Page
Competed in four-way world championship match at AEW World's End pay-per-view
Missy Hyatt
Tweeted safety concerns about dangerous bumps after witnessing Misawa's career-ending neck injury
Brian Danielson
Mentioned by William Regal as suffering daily neck pain from career injuries similar to Regal's own
Scott Teal
Published three-volume set on pro wrestling in comic strips and cartoons with historical newspaper articles
Quotes
"How could I miss you if you won't go away? Well now I've gone away and missed the show."
Jim Cornette•Opening segment
"I broke my neck twice September 93 in ring and a car wreck in 97 and stupidly never told anyone... watch film and just copy after Misawa's song passed from his neck problems I thought it would stop this nonsense but it got worse."
William Regal•Safety warning tweet discussion
"These are self inflicted wounds, Brian. These are unforced errors. These are unfortunate things that he is doing to himself that he couldn't see that there wasn't options that these things did not have to happen."
Jim Cornette•Ric Flair Cameo discussion
"I hate them both. But if you had to pick one it'd be Cornette. I kind of want to hang out with Cornette a little more."
Seth Rollins•Seth Rollins interview
"Jimmy Londos wrestling 101 times in 1931 is busiest champion and big money maker... cleared $252,500 with matches attracting gates up to $63,000."
Jim Cornette•Historical wrestling analysis
Full Transcript
Like the midnight and the rock and roll, he's in a fight for wrestling soul using racket and some mind control, like he's Jim Cogniz. The keys to the future held by the past and with tag team partner, Brian Last. He sends this message out by podcast, he's Jim Cogniz. Well he's never fake a phony, he never backs down from the fight, he never wins the pony cause his mama raised him right. It's time to prepare your mind. Get the experience, get the experience, get the experience of Jim Cogniz. Hello again everybody and welcome to the first Jim Cornett experience of 2026. We're all another year older and deeper in the same old shit. But today's topic, brain damage and people that have it. And joining me for all this and more, Ho-I and Brian the podcasting lion, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr. Co-host to you. His brand is being the brainiest Brian. Be great Brian Last everybody. Oh hi Jim, a pleasure to be here once again for a brainy edition of the experience. I can't wait, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on things we're getting caught up on today. You can't wait, I can't talk. I haven't done this for two weeks now. And see, I've proven once again my old adage, the old saying, it goes for almost anything. How could I miss you if you won't go away? Well now I've gone away and missed the show. And now I'm back and 10 pounds lighter as that's an old promo line from 1976. But I'm back baby on the experience here and we have so much to catch up on. Of course the variety of people who've been dropped on their heads and or who have long exhibited signs that they may have been in the past dropped on their heads. But Brian, you know, the people, the cult of cornet members, they just love it when I keep them up on the weather from around here in Louisville. You know about my weather reports. I would say that we probably have the most weather conscious wrestling audience out there because that's right. And we have a number of meteorologists that that actually follow me on Twitter and listen to the program for the various inside information they get here. And I've been talking about in November and December, how the weather's been so shitty here in Louisville, Kentucky is snow and cold and bleak and windy and everything. Well, I'll have you know that over Christmas week, Brian, we said, by the way, hopefully everybody had a great Christmas and New Year. We had a wonderful Christmas dinner here on Christmas day with Stacy's folks and exchange the presents and blah, blah, blah. And it was that was just lovely. And then just three days after the Sunday after Christmas, what was that? 28th. December of December of 28th. December. That's right. Yes. Well, we set a record. Guess what the temperature was in Louisville, Kentucky at five in the afternoon on Sunday, December 28th. 60 degrees. 75 degrees. Wow. Guess what the temperature was 12 hours later at five a.m. on Monday morning. 60 degrees. 24. We had a 51 degree temperature drop. It was I think the the all time record for any period of any 24 hour period here in Louisville is like 56 degrees or whatever years and years ago. And in between that temperature drop, Brian came the cold front. Let me ask you another question. Have you ever seen a severe thunderstorm with no thunder and no lightning? Well, without thunder, how could it be a thunderstorm would be my question? Exactly. But by God, we had it. Sunday night, they'd said it's going to be windy and it had been windy all day in the wind gusts 4045 miles an hour. They said this front's going to come through, but we have no thunderstorm fuel, even though it's hot. We don't have the Zabada. So there won't really be any organized severe weather. Bullshit. All of a sudden, I'm sitting there watching TV and up pops Mark Weinberg on WDRB by Weather Guy. He's the man, baby. He'll tell you what the dew point is up fucking somebody's ass in a fucking crowded theater. They break in. The weather service has issued for this line, this cold front coming in severe thunderstorm warnings with tornado possible tags on it. And the wind is coming. And what there was no thunder and no lightning. It was heavy, brief, heavy rain and high winds. And 10 minutes and boom, it's gone by right. But then it's after dark. So I look at all the windows. I don't see anything disturbed. I'm like, okay. We got past that. Next morning, the sun comes up. I look out the back window. Brian, remember when that giant poplar tree about a year and a half ago turned over sideways out of the fucking ground, 100 feet tall, it just laid the size of a fucking battleship. 25 feet away. A maple tree, the trunk of it's a big two grown men could barely reach around it. And one of the oldest trees left on the property has just broken off at the ground and and gone the same exact direction, like 20 feet over and done the 7 10 split in between two other trees, thankfully, and come to the rest at the foot of a mulberry tree that it just popped a couple of branches out of this thing is fucking 75 feet tall. And just and truth be known, if somebody had said, we got to take one tree, which one would you pick? Because this one was old and I knew it. And I was thinking about having the top taken out of it anyway, because I didn't want it to break off and fall, even though it wasn't really dead. It was just a stalk up there with a little foliage, but the bottom was all green and everything. So I just had the fucking tree guy out this morning and there's $6000 to remove this giant 25 ton fucking obstacle from my backyard. So do you ever eat any mulberries off the mulberry tree? And no, I don't. But I would I would run you around the mulberry bush for asking if. No, I used to eat. We used to have some nice blackberry and blueberry bushes in the back that we would when I was little, my mom would go back there and get some and we would have some berries and things. But that was years ago and they haven't made the they haven't made it. They're gone. They're long gone back to the winter. Long with this giant $6000 fucking tree. Long gone. But it is so that and now. It's back to being it's it's cold. It's been cold and it's going to be and it's going to warm up the next couple of days. And in the same things that happen, cold front is going to come through and it's going to be windy. Like fuck. And my thing on the computer about a little weather thing down on the bar, rainy days ahead. That sounds like a song. We ought to rainy days ahead. It's going to be nothing but gloom doom despair and agony. Oh, me deep, dark depression, excessive misery. If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. Gloom despair and agony. Oh, me. When I was a dark cloud over my head. Well, you ought to get that doctor to look at that. Maybe they can fix that. If you've got that thing following you around, there may be some kind of surgery they can perform. A dark cloud in the vocal form like your thunder storm would have thunder. Well, you know, we established that I sing in a special key on my own. A lot of people can't keep up with it. But while we were on the Christmas break, Brian. Independently of each other, you and I have begun to think alike. Sort of like the old married couple, you know, we we've been around each other too long. Independently of each other, we both watched a documentary TV series, limited series, whatever the fuck. On the streaming television. And then you wrote me and said, oh, you got to watch this. It's great. And I wrote you back and said, I just watched it. And it is. I what service is the documentary series selling Superman on? Do you remember? I think it was Amazon Prime, if not Netflix, but I think it was Amazon Prime. Well, it's one of them. I've got to have to watch the wrestling. So the the the the prime video with the little swoosh that says that's that means it's Amazon. Right, because they swoosh people. Is this correct? They do, in fact, have the trademark on the swoosh. I was looking to see if I could find where this it's on Amazon Prime. That is correct. OK, well, there you go. So swoosh on over. Selling Superman is and it's been out, I guess, for a year or so. And I had not heard anything about it. And I don't think you had either. But it's like a four part documentary series on this guy and his. A couple of family members and some immediate friends that came into possession of his father's comic book collection. And the the the guy who did the documentary. Well, for blessing or a curse, he was a friend of the family. So he started at the very beginning. He knew about this thing before anybody else did. And he was documenting it. But because he was a friend of the family. And not really a comic book collector, although I don't know the answers. To the questions that I wanted are able to be had because. Apparently, this guy's father was. I did he was mentally diagnosed or after the fact, possibly diagnosed with he had something going on. I think they said Asperger's, but it was also obviously an accomplished contract lawyer. Well, he was an accomplished fucking secret agent is what he was. Because this guy had assembled this comic book collection over a period of. I guess probably 40 years or whatever. And it took over the guy's whole life and these kids were brought up in the house and they talked to the mother, who was the wife of the guy who said it affected our whole family because. The more that he got and brought home, they didn't really know what was there and they didn't really know what he was doing or where he was getting it from. But it took over the basement and it took over a closet. It took over another room. And then he didn't want to leave the house. The guy, because he was scared that somebody would come and get the comic books. And he made the kids swear when they went to school. Don't tell anybody about the comic books. And it was like a family, a dark family secret only instead of some kind of. Pouring dungeon in the basement. He had comic books. But. What I wanted answered was where did he fucking go? To get all of these comic books. The guy dies. The family starts trying to figure out what's going on. And they had 300,000 comic books. And Brad, that's the number you heard, right? Plus they had sports cards and other type of things. But 300,000 comic books. Yeah, that was another thing they just kind of threw out there. There were also toys and sports cards. So that's a whole nother part of the collection they really didn't dive into. Yes, but here's the thing. And I mean, the only thing I can compare that to is. At my height, when I had all the comics I'd ever had before I'd sold anything. I had probably 14,000. I had probably 14,000, including the coverless and the the old grummy classics illustrators, right? Just all the drag. This would be over 20 times that. And not only that, but the content. I'm sitting there as their various points, leafing through the varieties of books. This was golden age through the 90s. He I guess in maybe 2000s, he didn't stop until he died. But also multiple copies, high grade issues of. Stuff that wasn't even everything. Everything. And then I know for a fact, because I live through it and we've talked about it. This guy, the reason why I was selling Superman was the title because the two prize books in his collection were copies of Superman, number one and Batman, number one. And the Superman, number one. Graded at a nine point, oh, and I get, well, let's go ahead and say it now. And they sold it auction for three and a half million dollars, the one book out of 300,000. But even. In 1972. A Superman, number one in any condition would have set you back a couple of hundred dollars. Remember, we've mentioned the 1970 chance I had to buy an action comics, number one for four hundred dollars from good old Howard Rogovsky. But not only you couldn't, you couldn't really find one in a nine point, oh, even in those days for that money. And they didn't maybe they didn't know because the guy just left and came back with shit. And the kids and the family was never included. So maybe they didn't know where he got all this, but where in the fuck, even in the seventies and eighties. And they never did they ever say what the guy did for a living because his son apparently is really well off. And that's why he was able to rent the place to store this and take care of it and all that stuff. But what did this guy do? Oh, he was a lawyer. They said he was a contract lawyer. OK, that's her contract lawyer. That's how he had all the money for all the. I mean, when you say he had multiples. Like stacks, imagine like any comic you would want from the sixties or seventies. If all of a sudden they pulled out a stack of them and many of them appear to be make condition. I mean, it's yes, it's insane. It was insane. And the sun must the sun's well off. He said that also maybe on the gas, I don't know. But the sun's well off. I think he is. And they not just got the space, but they kind of built up the Luxe storage facility with security and all sorts of things because. It's an invaluable collection. Yeah, well, it's it's a storage unit for looking facility type, but they've got like a warehouse with customized shelves and the security cameras and the climate control and the whole nine yards. I mean, it's it's my fucking 12 year old goddamn dream come true, right? But again, this guy had to be going and buying not just in books for a collection, but stock because when again, when the kid that helped me grade my marbles in DC is 20 years ago, he had worked for what at the time was the biggest. Comic shop in town. And he said that my. My collection was was as far as back issues went was the store and the stores back issues was a collection. I had more than they did. Of specifically of back issues, not only the Marbles DCs, but everything. This guy had to be going to comic shops and buying the stock. There's no other way that he could have done this. Well, at one point, I think in the last episode, when they had the son talk with some of the they found a couple of the guys who used to work at the comic book store in the 80s that he was aware of. And they thought that the owner may have bartered with the father for legal work at times. Like, you know, hey, can you do this for me in exchange? Here's this case of giant size X men number one for you to have. Just a cases of. But see, no, there was there's so much golden age that I was looking at also an obscure shit that I saw from the 50s that. I don't again, to assemble. You can. Yeah, there there's dealers that have 300,000 books and the mega dealers back issues in their. In their arsenal, but not this quality, this level, this condition. And I don't know how. And again, to keep it secret from the from the family for all of that period of time to where they didn't have the good stuff was in a little custom built closet that was behind a fucking false wall. And I had a bookshelf in front of it filled with comics. Yes. So I'm you know, anybody else, it would have been a documentary about finding people in the basement. But this guy had the rarest comics in the goddamn on the planet. See, but that's one of the weird things that there is no answer to. It's one of the big things that the sun is kind of searching for. Why did he do it? You know, collecting is something you know, you and I understand that other people who listen to the show can understand, whether it's a small collection or a big one. When you collect things, you do. But sometimes you think, well, one day my kids will get it or one day I'll donate it. One day I'll sell it, whatever it is. It didn't appear there was any end game. And you know, there was one guy and he tried to tell the son, your father saved it for you. Obviously, it was for you to find it and you and your family to sell it and share the love or whatever the fuck. And the son didn't even believe that. So that wasn't my guy. He'd been told all his life. Don't tell anybody about this shit and stay away from it. And. But that's I'm again, even if he wanted to be a collector, if it didn't want to share it with the family or whatever, he couldn't get to most of what he had because it was just packed in this house that it was crowding them out. That's why the wife divorced him, right? And got crowded out. But, you know, it had to be some kind of obsessive thing where I'm just going to accumulate all of these things, even if I can't ever get to them because the other things are in front of them. But I'm just again, as somebody who. I probably. It would have started collecting comics around the same time as this guy. I think when he died, he's probably a little older than me. But. You know, I remember what it was like trying to find before the internet and before the mainstreaming of the hobby to find shit like that. And it's it was just it was very hard. And I guarantee you that he had some of that golden age shit, especially. By the nineties or well before, because even a I don't care if he was Johnny Cochran, he couldn't have afforded a lot of this shit. No matter what he did and keep it secret from the family. Is there a word? Is it that these hundreds of thousands of dollars go last year, Bill? So this. I'd I'd loved if he had had saved receipts like Jack Feffer for every time he bought something or made some kind of deal. That would have been insane. But what do you think of what the sun's doing in terms of selling what he's selling from the collection at the same time that he's buying things and adding to the collection and there are certain things he won't sell. They are, you know, they found different sellers to cover different areas, including an auction house. What do you think of what they're doing to sell the inventory they're selling? Well, that the Harley Yee is a comics dealer that's been advertising in the Overstreet Price Guide for years and years. It's nice as he's like a four foot nine little round faced fella. Um, I think he was kind of being nice to the to the two fellows that he met that he was trying to consign a lot of the what they call run books. It's it's like these are books that people want to complete their runs. They're not key issues or major collectors items on their own. But if somebody's trying to get one through 100, they want number 72. And some of the lower priced stuff, I think he was being nice to those people because they they look like they were given a lot of effort out. Uh, with some of the bigger stuff, you know, a guy like the Harley Yee or some of these other major. Overstreet advertisers, they do go to all the big conventions and they're right there when people are on the spot looking for shit in person. But you the only way to do the major books anymore is by an auction house like Heritage or I think Metropolis Comics has done major auction business with these books that are worth millions of dollars because you can't. It's got to be a worldwide auction with a known platform because you can't get five or six people that are willing to spend a million dollars or more on a comic book in the same place, the same time in person. And you can't just do that on fucking eBay unless you're an idiot. I think didn't Logan Paul spend a million dollars on something on eBay. He's an idiot, but you can't, you know, do that if you're legitimate. So you got to split. That's the thing that I ran into. It was like, you know, a lot of people would have bought my entire collection. But they would have only given me 20 or 30 cents on the dollar or whatever because where are you going to immediately go and turn around 10 or 12,000 books, not even golden age like this shit. So this guy may not live long enough. To sell all of those books. But what do you need? Fifty four copies of Tales of Suspense, 58 for. That's where they got me. It wasn't even seeing like the rare issues or the issues that as a kid, I was like, I wish I had that. It was just the stacks when it was piles of issues. But it's astounding. Tales to astonish, maybe I should say. And yes, it's astonishing. But it's it's a really good four part documentary. And again, they're still out there and they're still selling comic books. And they have their what do you want to ask? Well, and also, and we didn't mention the main son that's doing this. Maybe I'd have inherited some of his father's mental makeup because he was about to have a breakdown over the process of going through all of this. Well, he almost had a breakdown when the filmmaker dropped Superman number one. Yes. In the case. And that's what I was going to ask you about. What are your thoughts on as someone who is collected and sold? Just the whole grading process and comic books in cases. And just what are your thoughts on? You know, obviously, it's a necessity. It's part of how things are sold today. But what are your thoughts on all of it? The grading process is always been necessary because you've got to have some kind of standard to attach a value. Is it in good condition or very good or fine or whatever? And I've mentioned before in the in the olden days, good, fine and meant even in the first over streets was a one to three dollar spread, good dollar, fine, two dollars meant three dollars. And, you know, that was the way it was for quite some time. And then they started developing the the zero to ten numeric grading system where you get a nine point six or a nine point eight because the chip monk that ate the corner only bit with one tooth or whatever. Right. And then the slabbing where they, you know, put the. The book, whatever in the in the plexiglass sleeve, which. If it's something incredibly valuable, yes, for an investment, the slabbing and the minute grading and the professional grading and everything is worth it because people then feel more confident about paying the money, especially sight unseen or even if it's in person, they know what they've got exactly. But at the same time, you can't open the goddamn book. You can't read the book. You can't even if you're being careful and even if you know, you can't just smell the book, even if you don't want to open the pages, you can't touch it. That to me, then it takes a collecting has always been for fun because you you like the the subject and investment. If you're spending money, but you know that things are going to appreciate. But the slabbing, it takes it all the way just to investment without any collecting for fun. So. That's, you know. Yeah, I have a few slabbed books that people have given me, but I never had any of mine done. And then when I sold them, I knew that the people at the bottom were going to go and fucking slab them. But that was none of my concern at that point. But again, it's just it's pure greed, greed and commerce, Brian. Is a whole fucking deal. But if I had a nine point, oh, Superman, number one, I would have slapped that son of a bitch because I'd have three point five million dollars right now and you and I wouldn't be speaking. Was Superman number one always bigger than Batman number one, even at Batman's peak and popularity, which probably surpassed Superman's in some respect until the movie came out, Christopher Reeve. Well, but back up again, because yes, while Superman number one, I believe and I'm willing to be corrected. I don't have photographic memory for every over every over street price guide for the last 50 years. But Superman one. Was usually more expensive than Batman one, but Detective 27, which is the first Batman was more expensive than Superman one. But Action one, which was the first Superman, was always the one that was nudging out Detective 27. So it's it's been neck and neck there. And then you can you can throw in some fucking. You know, really rare, timely stuff. The Captain America is the. The various, you know, Marvel, what came to be Marvel characters, but they never. The Amazing Fantasy 15. Was the first Silver Age book that really got into the. Action one, Detective 27. Fucking price stratosphere that I'm aware of. Well, this has been the comics corner. Well, you know, who else has been cornered because he's not a stand up comic? We go from from selling Superman to tugging on a nature boys cape. I want to say at the start of this because so many people have flooded the Twitter waves, sending us these things and asking. I've always. Loved I've been a fan of Ric Flair since I was a fan of wrestling as a young, young child, a young whipper snapper. And from the start of working with Flair, he's the one that recruited me in the midnight to work for Jim Crockett. He gave me my first booking job on their booking committee. And I learned all kinds of stuff there. And he made me and Jim Ross, the permanent commentary duo on the class champion specials. So I learned a lot there on commentary. He's done all kinds of things for me. So I'm not trying to dog pile on Ric Flair. But these are self inflicted wounds, Brian. These are unforced errors. These are. Unfortunate things that he is doing to himself that he. I can't see that there wasn't options that these things did not have to happen. There was an option here that we wouldn't be talking about this right now and that nobody would be talking about. Barf and his friends right now. Have I confused the people with what I'm talking about yet? Possibly, you haven't exactly said it. What we're about to talk about, but. Ric Flair has. Spoken out in public again when he shouldn't. And then and this time he did it. He videotaped himself doing it and then sent it out. And people are laughing at him over it. And I don't blame them. But I just wish he wouldn't do these things. I wish you I wish it didn't have to be this way. But in the words of downtown Bruno, mama says it bees that way sometimes. So you know what part of the part of the problem is? The Ric Flair you worked with. And again, the public persona was different than the private guy. But even the private guy may not have been where he is today. He was. But Ric Flair. With all the partying and everything else, he was a composed speaker and a good representative. And I actually have a little bit of audio I want to play for you for a second, because this just went up a few weeks ago. I saw it. Someone sent it over to me. It's Ric Flair on TNN promoting a WCW event. But just listen to how he's talking. Now, the big fight, you call him fights, I guess you do. Yeah, wrestling matches. The big match is on Sunday. And who is the guy that you're going after? Very Wyndham. He's the Iranian NWA World Heavyweight Champion right now. Are you nervous? I'm nervous, but I've prepared hard for this match and I'm ready. Sunday, I think that I'm ready and I'm ready to hopefully win the match. Now, he's the lone wolf. How is. I'll stop it there. Just a brief example. He used to just sound like a normal guy. And again, if you're hiring him for a cameo, you may not want just the normal guy, but I don't feel like we ever see the normal guy anymore. Well, that's that's what I was going to say is that in my experience with Rick and of course, I did not go to plum crazy with with all of the horsemen and etc. and do all of that stuff. Everybody knows that was not my thing. But I traveled with Flair when he was the booker. I was riding the car with him and Kevin. I've been in restaurants, nice restaurants with Flair and Cleopatra, his ex-wife. I've been in C and in center and even even in meetings with Jim Hurd, who he really wanted to come over the table and just fucking gouge his eyes out. It traveling around in hotels, whatever. He was dressed. He looked the fucking part. He was the world champion. He was polite. He was professional, especially like you said, this wasn't a wrestling appearance that you just played. It was on T and N just talking about the upcoming pay per view. So he wasn't flipping the fuck out. He looked like a professional athlete. And that's the experience that I heard. And. I it dawned on me and then we'll get into the cameos here that he's been doing. But it dawned on me that Flair made not only a fortune, but also. Established himself as the greatest wrestler in the ring of all time to so many people. Trying to be Ray Stevens. But when he retired, he should have started trying to be Nick Bakwinkle. But he's still trying to be Ray Stevens. And there's a reason that Ray Stevens. Wasn't even being Ray Stevens really to the end and he was only 60 or whatever. Can you imagine if Flair had adopted the Bakwinkle path that dressed nice, the hair in place, the yes, sir, the. That's the way he was. See, that's the way he was. I heard Rick Flair say yes, sir. In my interviews with like real people, not like wrestling real people and a woman. Not real women broadcasters. Not people like we just heard on T and N not on wrestling. He used to be very polite and he knew what he should be. And now he appears to be completely fucking unhinged. And, you know, you bring up the cameo thing. We almost talked about this before our break, because that day that we last recorded. Someone sent me this first thing with no audio, just a review that someone left. And I thought it was so funny and we figured, let's wait, you know, we're. About to go to break. And then audio came out and we'll talk about that too. But Jim, the first thing we saw was a review. For a Ric Flair cameo on November 26, 2025, left by anonymous. And I guess, by the way, we should just mention that cameos are where people pay money. For the celebrity in question to do a video and send it to them for their specifications, just for everybody to keep them up. Well, here's the review. This may be the video we'll check, but here's the review. Yo, I paid 600 bucks for Rick to sit in a restaurant, blast it out of his mind and say my dad's name wrong. I. I. I. I. God damn it. I pay for him to say Merry Christmas to my father, Buff. He called him Barf. Merry Christmas, Barf. He called him Barf and just read the instructions word for word. I'm super disappointed. I spent money on this. I would have got someone who would actually put in the effort for 600 bucks to a regular person. That's a lot of money. I'm not going to give a Christmas video to my father with his hero calling him Barf. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen. I haven't heard the do you have the audio on that? Because I haven't heard that one. I've heard the other one. I don't know. This one says this one says he found the video. Is this the right one? Not even the same video. So no, it's not. Oh, yeah. Well, there's more. Well, yeah. So that's the Barf incident. So we heard about Barf and then you can go. The one that I saw, I'm thinking maybe is the one that you've got is. He's supposed to say happy wedding. Congratulations to whoever the fellow is. And he spends like a minute and a half on what the fuck would you get married? What the fuck's the matter with you and meaning it? Well, again, we have the audio. We'll play that in a second. We should probably read the review first because it'll explain the issues before you hear it. But also, it's important to note not everyone's you. You took it very serious and had very popular cameos in your home office and a quiet setting. But we've seen other people seemingly they needed a quiet setting. They went to their car like they did what they could to deliver. Yeah. For like 50 bucks, you know, whatever it was, a cameo to someone in a professional way. So you pay six hundred dollars or this person said actually it was a grand. They would they would go to they would go somewhere where you would have at least a private phone call, not just in the middle of a goddamn county fair. Go ahead. Well, this review here from April. After spending nearly a grand to have someone my brother admired enough to have tattooed on him, wish him luck on his wedding. I would have expected Rick to at least browse through the notes ahead of time, not read it word for word the first time, and most definitely not to tell me he's making a mistake. And to remain a GF, because he was so fucked up, he could barely speak right. What would have been a great gift ended up being the worst thing he's ever been gifted. Unbelievable. One star review. So let's at least at least she didn't give it no stars. Let's go to the audio and question, Jim. Here is Ric Flair on cameo. I don't know where he is as a lot of people in the background. It's a it's a bar of some description. He's just sitting there holding his own phone, looking at it with people at the bar milling around and having conversations in the background. To my man, Eric. From Tina, Pam and the military boy. I guess it's a beautiful gift. I'm not sure why. Oh, back for a gift. Gosh, man. Very good. That's who. Of your famous. Guys, there is so many women do. So we're doing. Now he's getting married. Oh, my God. Why would you get married, Motherfucker? It's the worst possible commitment you could do because as a day you get married, 50% of everything is her. I don't care how beautiful she is. Stay her girlfriend. I'm a family to the military boys. Want to wish him the best of luck. That's the diamonds are forever. And so is the rich player. And that's the God's honest truth, brother. I'm a diamond. I'm forever. I'm always saying my welcome. I hope. Overstate my welcome. Through her words may have never been spoken. I've heard him say, you know, diamonds are forever in promos for years. I never heard I am a diamond. And I am forever and he has arrived and he is here. Again, not everyone can be you in terms of the effort that they put into a cameo. You really took a lot of care and making sure that. Well, don't don't just put because I'm not even selling. As a matter of fact, you're plugging something out. I don't even do anymore, but that's the reverse of this is why I don't do them. Because what I did was I had a hotchkiss guy said, go out and get the number one phone, the best phone to do the videos. We have a cameo phone, right? That's all it's ever been used for. And we found the place in the office where the lighting was perfect and we got the audio down and etc. And he got the the the hang of uploading them and sending them to the cameo people because, you know, I wasn't going to do that. And we treated it like a goddamn day of local promos. And we put 50 on sale and he would come in with a stack of. Fifty sheets of paper with the instructions on it. And we go one by one instead of, OK, this is Charlotte, this is Atlanta, this is Greensboro. And we go, OK, this is for Little Ned. He's getting over his hernia surgery. There there's Farquhar. He's just recently moved to a desert island in the South Pacific, whatever. And I would give everybody at least two minutes because it was 150 bucks, which I thought was a lot of money. And but it's an eight hour day to do 50 of them. Hodges even got me the music stand so I could. Do notes like this is for so and so and from so and so and. Oh, he's, you know, he's fat or whatever and put the notes on. So I was well, because they would give me a description or what they wanted me to say about somebody. But sometimes it would be, hey, my brother, Pizmo's a big fan, roasting. I don't know what he looks like, how old he is, where he lives, what he does for a living. You try doing two minutes on that. And I'm looking for props around the office to bring in and shit at whatever the fuck. And finally, at the end of an eight hour day, I would say, God damn, I'm mentally exhausted. I could make the same amount of money if I just spent this day writing my next book in the long run. And I didn't want to just charge ridiculous amounts of money. For just a video message, but. God damn, that that's why I don't do a mini board because they were too hard. Rick's taking them too easy. Here's one. They got a three star review from September. Rick Flair in a car. Let's go to this. Oh, no, not driving. Woo, happy birthday. Now this comes from a. See, oh, bio. Nature boys playground. I've strutted through steel cages, danced with danger and kissed the canvas more times than you'll blink, then you'll blink your eyes. You think you're ready for hand to hand combat with the limousine riding jet flying, kiss stealing, wheeling, dealing, son of a gun. On the steps of democracy. What in the world is the bigger man? Happy birthday, Dell from the nature boy. God bless. Stay strong and keep making the girls go. All night long. I got a three star review and he's cuts all over his face in every one of these videos, just weird. Cuts. Here's Rick Flair outdoors. Let's see what this one is. Woo, Chris and Leanna. From dad and Heidi. Congratulations. Get him married. It's phenomenal. I think the most awesome thing could possibly do. My son, Chris. Oh, we stop it there. That's a complete about face from the other. Well, I like the cameo. No pun intended from the guy that walked by. Woo, is Rick Flair. Got more. What was some other people in these videos so far than from Rick? Is married in love of his life. Leanna. That's reading part. The love of his life. That is absolutely a beautiful way to put it. The wrestling fan all his life. And has been to five WrestleMania's including a match with Shawn Michaels. What? In Orlando. Oh, I appreciate all that. This match. I didn't know who's bad. Please wish them a happy marriage. He's just reading. He's reading the instructions. He's just. It's like insert slot B into tab A. Turn over now. Through life as they tie the knot. God bless you both. Dad thinks thanks for reaching out to me. I haven't been very successful in marriage. Doesn't mean you can't be. I was traveling all the time doing what I do. But the only thing I can do is wrestle. You guys have got a great opportunity to have a great marriage and a great life. Love and respect you. Dad and Heidi, thanks for reaching out. Chris and Leanna stay strong. Get married. Be faithful. Love each other. And Chris make Leanna go. Woo. Every day of the week. All right, that wasn't too terrible. I was better. What would poison him between now and then on the marriage? That was Jude. Sometime after Jude, he was like, fuck marriage. Don't do it. They get half. They'll take half. You get divorced as many times as he does. He gets a lot of halves. And one last one will play because these are the official ones, I guess that he uses as an example. These are the demos. This is one for a pep talk. Here's a Ric Flair pep talk. He was about to give it to her, actually. Adrian. Nature boy here, man. Rolex wearing. Diverring wearing. Liberty riding. Private jet flying. My friend Adrian. He's been having a tough week. He's a hardworking guy. Goin' several small businesses and some haters that giving him some shit. Well, tell them to kiss your ass. Would you encourage him and tell him he is lovely? Which obviously you are by your brother's way. Speaking in a third person. How would he? Would you encourage him? There's the past part of the there's a participle dangling here somehow. Dramatically, this does not work it out. There's a little more of the pep talk here. Your family, your friends, cooked great steaks and they're great at video games. My brother, look at this shit everybody else in life. Life, we own our life. We own our world. This thing kick your ass, tell them to go fuck themselves. God bless your brother. Come on. Stay strong. Keep being a man. That's what God always says. Woo. That's what God always says. Go fuck yourself. Why are there always plates and bottles clinking in the background? And other people doing woo in the background happen there again at the end. There were like two different women who obviously did it in the background. But that's what I'm saying. Even if you possibly have not been over served, the idea probably is not to do a cameo that you've been paid a lot of money for in a public restaurant with people around you doing backup. Woo. I'm looking here. Like again, these are the preview videos. One of them says other. And like a lot of them like they begin with a shot of his face. He's filming himself obviously. This one, it's a shot of the bar the other way. So you just see like where the drinks go. Although we just clicked just to see what it is. Wow. Okay, no hard for that. Yeah, we're all snacks all the time. Can I get one? Woo-wee. Tom Lang. It's an itchaboy. Come from Brandon Chris Andrew. And of course myself. Tom 66. Just finished cancer treatment. Celebrating the fourth through the line with family in Frankfurt, Mississippi. Tom is a lifelong fan. Love your classic. Woo. See that's what you're paying for him to read back to you. He's, he should even say he loves my classic. Woo, but loves your classic. Woo. I wonder if there's a way to like game the system. Like if you want to actually gift someone a Ric Flair message, like the way you word it so that he reads it back so that it actually sounds like he's saying it as a birthday. Write it like you write his script for it. Well, but that didn't work out on the first one. I don't think I feel like you mentioned the people who paid for it more than the people receive. Well, and speaking of which, we say Ric Flair is suing people for because his weed company went sideways. And somebody does, does Rick have managers, agents, handlers of various kinds doing his business? Or is he just getting into these things by himself? And is you think maybe somebody in the family might say, Rick, don't over imbibe and send out public videos. I'm going to do what I want. And I'm going to smoke this Panama Red. Whoa. But. But I mean, it is, is, is everybody in his immediate family and social circle just worried about the profitability of the projects and the enterprises he's getting into and not whether he's making himself look bad in public or not. You know, again, you brought up Bach Winkle earlier. Bach Winkle didn't need a handler. You know, he was a responsible guy. Who knows what he did in his private time. I'm not saying, you know, anything like even that fun. Well, no, he was and let's and a lot of people are going to say this. So let's say no, Nick Bach Winkle didn't have. Weed companies and vodka companies coming after him in his, you know, golden retirement years either. But he that's the point I'm making is that. Nick Bach Winkle is kind of like what a grownup. Rick Flair would have been. Ray Stevens was his first half of his life and Bach Winkle would have been the second half. But instead. Rick's just gone full Stevens. I always thought it would have been Old Man Buddy Rogers. Well, same principle. The fucking nice suits and the everything's all in place and very smooth speaking, except Bach Winkle was a really a lot more intelligent. I won't say a lot more educated and articulate person than Buddy Rogers was. But the said the look the same thing. Say that to my face, Pally. Well, Pally, well, there's the Rick Flair cameo story. Obviously, it's a great deal for those of you looking for a Rick Flair experience apparently priced between six hundred dollars and a thousand dollars based on what will no personal video five hundred dollars plus. I guess they're caveats. But if you want to book a business video, it's ten thousand dollars. Jesus Christ. Oh, God. Does that cover the going out of business sale expenses? So how would you do that for a business? Because you can't really play that in a meeting and it's just him drunk in a bar reading what you wrote him. Your quarterly reports were great. Everything is looking good. I've gone over your finances myself and everything there's nothing to worry about. I don't know how you would get ten thousand dollars of value for your business out unless your business was goddamn vodka. And even then, maybe maybe that might not be good for your vodka business. Oh, shit, we don't want to look like that. Well, we'll see what happens with Rick Flair and his various business enterprises. Of course, this is his own. This is cameo and we'll see what happens. This is. Anyway, if somebody can give Rick some advice on when or when he should not be on camera, that would be preferable because you know what it does, Brian? The whole thing, it just stinks. The whole situation just stinks, just stinks out loud. You know what else stinks out loud? A lot of people these days. Have you noticed this that a lot of people stink these days? I'm not talking about their attitude or or their personality. 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But if you're walking around naked and even though it's wintertime, there are warmer climates. If you're walking around naked and a breeze comes up the right direction, it can catch that shit and you can clear out a public park. As you've seen some of the video on the Internet now, people walking down the street naked minding their own business. And suddenly everybody in the park just starts running. That's because they caught a breeze and it wafted the wrong way and who the Fremunda smell from under the balls and next to the taint. That'll run you right out of the place. You know, there was an article in the paper this morning about a naked bandit. They caught on camera like daytime, just running around naked robbing people's houses. Yes. And how do you think he's going to feel if the cops catch him and haul him down there and on his mug shot? It clearly says arrested for robbery and stinking bad. You don't want that to be your your legacy or your your reputation. 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I couldn't wait to see it. And well, I could wait to see it because I'd heard about it, but I thought it was on the streaming shit. And so I said, well, I'll see it sometime. I didn't know it was just on something I could set the DVR on. So I found it on the CNN on demand the day afterwards. And I caught up with it anyway. What do you think of Chevy? That's a complicated question. And I don't even know him. I always been great to me. I enjoy the hell out of some of his roles, other of his roles or movies, maybe not so much. He seems to me from afar to be a complete fucking asshole to everyone he encounters. And at one point when he was young and he had a hair, it was charming. And then the older he got, it just seemed more like, no, he's just a mean asshole. A mean old man. He's a mean old man. But again, the catch is in being a mean asshole. He's fucking hysterical. That is where it comes back around. Even when he's not trying to be hysterical now, he's hysterical, unless he's always trying to be hysterical. And it's kind of this twisted, not Don Rickles, but just twisted insult you where he just goes to your core and tries to fuck with you. He's hysterical until he tries too hard. And then he then he gets into the mean grumpiness. But at the same time, it's almost impossible not to feel sorry for him in a way because there were other people at test of, oh, my God, he's one of the most caring, nicest individuals that he has a good heart. And and he was abused as a child, apparently legitimately, horribly abused. And he, you know, blah, blah, blah. So you either love him because you have seen the carefully guarded inside or most people just hate him because he's a fucking prick. But I think herein lies the problem. He's in two of my favorite all time movies, Caddy Shack and Vacation, right? And plus he established. Not only Weekend Update on Saturday Night Live, but the the Daily Show or any any comedy newscast comes from Chevy Chase being the anchor man. So but the thing is, he's like a lot of guys in the wrestling business. He can only get over being himself. Because they said he wasn't when he tried to do the the talk show host, the talk show, the Chevy Chase show, he wasn't a stand up comic. He could really do a monologue. He wasn't really an actor where he couldn't play different parts. He had to be Chevy Chase. And whether he was Chevy Chase being Clark Griswold or Chevy Chase being, you know, Fletch or whatever, he had to be Chevy. And if he couldn't do that thing, it didn't work. So I mean, that's not unusual in entertainment. Think about. The other the wrestlers or the other actors, sometimes or musicians that you just have to let them be them and it doesn't work unless they're being them. And like you said, when he was young and he was hot, I don't mean hot in appearance, I mean, hot popularity. They wrote roles for Chevy Chase in these movies. But then after a while, he got older and it kind of got old to be Chevy Chase. And then he couldn't do anything else. You know, like Bob Denver after Gilligan's Island, right? To an extent, I mean, again, I think a lot of it was the film choices, his reputation. He had a very public feud with Howard Stern. I can the early nineties, which kind of exposed a little bit of like Chevy's way of being. And it was kind of an exposure. Like this guy's a complete asshole. He could be an asshole, but he couldn't take assholeish. Right. This against him. He, you know, he didn't. He has to be the chief asshole. If you try to one up on this, it's going to be a problem. You remember they did a Comedy Central, did a celebrity roast the Chevy Chase at least 20 years ago, maybe a little more now at this point. And almost no one you would associate with Chevy Chase showed up. But they had Lorraine Newman, Al Franken. They had they had the person who has replaced Lorraine Newman, who looks nothing like Lorraine Newman. I think it's a it's a body double. Well, she's an older woman now, but. Well, not all of her face is as old as the rest of her. But he's a complicated, you know, again, even just the decision to leave Saturday Night Live. A year and a half into it. I mean, a year and a half is a pretty quick period of time. And he was gone like right away. Well, and I was watching it every week at that point. And he was the hottest thing on television. And everybody was talking about him. And that's they even said in the documentary. That's another thing he never worked hard on his career. He had other people telling him, oh, you should do this, you should do that. Go to the movies, blah, blah, blah. He didn't really. He never took anything for the. For the arts sake for the, you know, I want this role or I've got it. It was just whatever. And I think that bit him too. And then again, like you said, he just came off so wrong to so many people that didn't get into his inner circle and know the real Chevy down deep that. And the thing with community. Where he got, they didn't nobody from that show wanted to be on. And finally they got the, the, the director whose last name I cannot pronounce. That guy was great. That guy was great because he loved Chevy and he realized how fucked up Chevy was. And he didn't want to do it at first, but then he agreed to do the thing, but he, I love him. Yeah, he's fucking. But when he emitted the racial slur that. Followed him to the, you know, the end of his, the, of the show there. He was actually complaining about that the writers were making his character racist, but in saying, what am I going to do next? Say that. Then they all hated him anyways. They were nice. He was that language. If they don't like him, there probably wouldn't be a problem because he was making a valid point as his contention is, but instead they're like a fuck this fucking guy. They literally said that they would film his stuff first early in the day so they can get rid of him off the set. Yeah. The rest of the show. Which is remarkable for a hitchhiker. That's the show. Which is remarkable for a hit show. I mean, that they would have to do that. But it's a, it's a once again, a very interesting look at a guy who you would have thought as big a star as he was at one point in time from what 1975 through the end of the eighties, maybe. No, to the mid nineties, even after the talk show, he was still a big star, still a big star. Well, that's right. It's because the talk show was 93 and he was still a big star. That's why he got it. Yeah. And he wasn't as big a star afterwards. But the last 30 years, you know, it's like, yeah. And the one show he was on that people were watching. He left and they didn't like him. So I, I hate that because he was such a, you know, a figure at one point on, and he was the symbol of the new era of television, the counterculture Saturday Night Live, the young people taking over. It's Chevy Chase. I'm Chevy Chase and you're not. And then. And look at how things have flipped to Saturday Night Live was the alternative to the world of the Carol Burnett show and stuff like that. Yeah. And now it is that. Yeah. Now that's exactly what it is. It's not the counterculture entertainment hour anymore, 90 minutes anymore. You know, just because they made that remark in the documentary, they ought to have Carol Burnett on Saturday Night Live next week. She's still alive. She still does meaty commercials. Yes, I know that. That's why. That's why I said they should have her. I didn't expect they were going to go dig her the fuck up. What do you think I'm saying to you here? Yeah, they ought to have a dead person on Saturday Night Live next week. Is Vicki Lawrence alive? They'll need to put Mando on him. Is Vicki Lawrence alive? Well, she was pretty frisky the last time I went over to her place, but. There it is. There it is. Hey, that was the night the lights went out in Burbank, baby. Hey, listen here, you mentioned vacation. You mentioned Caddyshack. Can't argue classics. I know almost every line of those movies. You didn't say Fletch. I know I didn't say when Chevy was he was Fletch or he was Clark Griswold or whatever. I like the first Fletch. The second one. No, no, the second one's the beginning of the end of Chevy's film career. If you really want to think about it, Funny Farm and Fletch 2. Yeah. Fletch lives or whatever it was. Fletch lives. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Nothing but trouble. Yes. Well, Dan Ackroyd and Chevy and Demi Moore and John Candy. I don't think so. Well, Dan Ackroyd plays the old judge kind of looks like Rick Flair now plays the old judge. And then he also plays like these two giant size babies. And Chevy and Demi Moore get stuck in Vulcanvania in this crazy house with garbage and shoots and they have a roller coaster that eats people. Okay. Maybe we've now come to another reason why Chevy's career. He's a stockbroker and he's trying to get to Atlantic City and he gets pulled over and he ends up in Vulcanvania. I don't care if they were, they liked him or not. He could have been Mother Teresa and that's that movie would have still bombed. Caddy Shack 2. That's one of the worst movies ever. That's one of the most disappointing, awful movies ever. And you, and you, Chevy's got a wrestling connection kind of because he had injuries from all those bumps that he took. Cause they, as a matter of fact, didn't he, he had to take, this was big news at one time on the first season of Saturday Night Live. He had to take a couple of shows off because he fucked himself up some kind of way, taking one of the bumps. He phoned in from the hospital. That's right. That's right. And the girl sang a song to him. Oh Chevy, Chevy, we love when you fall down. That's right. Saturday night on my TV. Oh, but Chevy, every time that you fall down, I wish that you were falling, falling for me. Yeah. See there. That's, that's impressive. I mean, that's how big a story was so quickly. And again, he just walked off the show, which created a spot for Bill Murray, who then tried to punch out Chevy when Chevy was telling him, cause the rest of the kids, they didn't even go into the fact that like Garrett Morris is like, oh, me and Chevy were always like this. Well, the rest of the cast fucking hated him at various points to the point where they were having fist fights right before airtime. And I don't know, you know, Bill Murray and Chevy Chase, that might have been evenly matched back then. They were both kind of fucking pale and pasty and fuck, I'd give either one of them a shot. I would have put my money on Bill Murray, even though Chevy was kind of at his peak and he was a taller guy. Bill Murray grew up with a bunch of brothers. Well, besides Murray had more animosity behind it. Chevy was the star and Murray was, you know, he was trying to get there. Murray's still at a mustache. Yeah. He hadn't figured things out yet. Anyway, well, you can see that on CNN. If you're a Chevy Chase fan or ex-fan, or if you're somebody looking, I guess, for some kind of material on filing a lawsuit against Chevy Chase for doing something. He was in dirty work. One of my favorite awful movies that gets better every time you see it because it's so funny and so stupid. It's stupid funny. It's Norm McDonald and Artie Lang. And Chevy plays, and it's like in the late 90s. This is how far it had fallen by the point. He plays like a doctor who owes gambling money and needs to get these boys to do things because he won't help their sick dad unless they do it. Needs to get these boys to do things. Well, he's barely in the movie. He's only in like a few scenes, but like that's how far he had fallen by that point in the late 90s. The fact that he had gone from, you know, there weren't any more national ampoum vacations. No, he was not able to afford the good vacations. He had to like do the Princess Cruise thing and sing in the lounge. Like Vegas vacation to me, I never liked. That's the napurated where Chevy law. I did like memoirs of an invisible man and everyone puts it down and John Carpenter said it almost caused him to leave the film industry. I hated working with him. I almost wanted to quit. Whatever. But I like that movie. I thought that movie was kind of cool. But I guess he's 82 years old. Because I'm used to people being old now because I'm old, but that's he was 32 years old when he was a breakout overnight sensation on. Saturday night live. So one would have thought and it was true for many of them that all those people were in their 20s and just the new fresh faces. But he was which goes to show you. That he was a late bloomer. He hadn't done shit before he was 32. Except being the first incarnation of Steely Dan in college. It is one of the more. That's another one weird little tidbit where you know it's like oh yeah I was at Bard College and me and Fagan and Becker got together and started a band like what? I wouldn't have believed it but they had video. Yeah. No it's real. It's a real story. Christopher Guest was apparently there because what did the guy say when he read it to Christopher Guest and he's like joined the production we're doing and the guy said oh I know Chevy. I can bring Chevy. He's like we don't get along. But he didn't watch. But also he was in that he was in the groove tube because that's one of my all time favorite movies early 70s movies but just as one of the miscellaneous cast of madcap players that was in it. And now they're honest about the cocaine. I mean it a good amount of cocaine stories that could have had more. But remember when they did the roast Al Franken he killed me with this. He came out there and he goes you know you may remember in the mid 80s Chevy was brave enough to announce publicly that he was going away because of his addiction to backpills. And I remember back in the old days of Saturday Night Live I remember the guy who used to bring Chevy's backpills to the show. His name was Ronnie Sunshine Chevy loses it for a second. He was in my complete control no selling everything that got him that got him backpills. Well you know some of our sponsors have well now that would have been a good segue but we have no sponsors that sell the backpills on today's program. But you know Brian as a segue here we've heard Rick flair saying people should never get married. We've heard people saying that Chevy Chase was an asshole. Now what happens if you're an idiot with a brother that wants to get married and you've got to do a video. You don't go to Rick flair you don't go to cameo you go to some random shmo with a phone and you have them record it and it still might not always go according to plan. If Darby Allen is involved. Have you seen this this clip where they tried to reenact the Pink Floyd album cover of the guy shaking hands with the guy that's on fire. Wish you were here that's right. Yeah well they didn't wish they were there. Apparently and this is on the internet again I'm not sure exactly where you have to go to find this little 15 seconds of footage or whatever. But Darby Allen's brother was going to propose marriage to his intended betrothed financier fiance whatever. And they got somebody to record it and Darby apparently and his brother got together and figured that the best way they could do this is if they bring this poor girl this woman that is the intended victim of all this they brought her to what where were they was it the like an empty swimming pool they're in a giant concrete bowl like a swimming pool has been drained of water or a skate park maybe a skate park yeah as they're in a big concrete bowl and the girl doesn't know why she's been brought there and I can't believe those two actually got a female to go to a goddamn deserted location with them. Darby's brother gets down on one knee to start to ask the girl will you marry me and Darby sets the son of a bitch on fire. Am I lying so far Brian? No the brother was lit on fire. And when Darby lights the brother on fire the brother then is going to do the fucking proposal while he's kneeling there on fire but from what it looked like to me watching the video the girl said what the fuck is happening and ran off. She ran off away from the guy now the guy's kneeling there on fire reaching out to the hand of the betrothed that he's trying to do the proposal and she's running she's like screaming running away and then the guy realizes well shit I'm on fire and he jumps up and starts dropping and rolling in a concrete goddamn dry swimming pool it's not like he's rolling in grass or dirt or he's just rolling on concrete and he's still burning and they come in with a fire extinguisher and put his fucking ass out. Now I don't know how that turned out as far as the proposal went did she ever did she scream back from the rim of the pool fuck you I ain't married you you fucking idiot you just gave me a heart attack or did she accept once they put him out and he stopped smoldering or what. Well I have the original post here that Darby Allen put up I'm watching it on a loop right now on Instagram on Instagram Darby Allen wrote marriage proposal gone wrong my brother wanted me to light him on fire and haven't we all said that out loud. Yes especially at family gatherings. My brother wanted me to light him on fire and asked his girlfriend to marry him she got cold feet and took off running instead of putting him out with the fire extinguisher. What the wait a minute what is he trying to say it was her job to put him out. Maybe it wasn't meant to be maybe it wasn't to be no meant maybe it wasn't to be to be or not to be burned alive. So they're blaming the poor girl because she didn't. How would you know if you didn't know what was coming that you're supposed to and what order does it come in do you say yes and then put the guy with fire extinguisher or do you put him out first and then say yes. What's the what's the protocol. By the way fire extinguisher she's holding like a white bottle not the red classic fire extinguisher she tries to hand it to Darby who won't take it she puts it on the ground that runs away. Is that the fire extinguisher that must be the fire extinguisher. So they handed this poor girl a fire extinguisher it's got Niels down in front of her and the other guy sets him on fire. What would you do what if this was the big reveal that he was crazy like what if somehow like he met a girl. She thought she was dating some maybe a little weird but you know kind of normally as a job or something. Maybe he has some good records I don't know. One day they're just walking down the street all of a sudden lights himself on fire. He loves someone to say yes. Marry you fireman. Marry you human torture. Leave on. Watch I'm watching him again there he goes rolling she goes running away in one direction he goes rolling me off the direction. What he. Here's the thing maybe it wouldn't have worked out because if your wife sees you on fire and she runs away from you rather than. I don't know if it take her top off and fucking smother the flames whatever I don't know. That's a real test of what you do that is a real test like either she'll marry me or she'll put me out or she'll just not do any of these things. Put me out. If you won't either marry me or put me out when I'm on fire. She chose. For me she chose let him burn and run. Yeah and I mean we're laughing but this is Darby's pointing at it brother he's like put him out put him out the girl just drops the thing and runs. We're but but now come on out straighten up here now because we're laughing but in all seriousness. These are not like 17 year old kids that you get all there's they'll grow out of it they're fucking morons but we're you know we're all morons we're teenagers whatever. How old is Darby Allen now 30 something years old. I don't know if his was his brother an oversight you know when the family they thought they were done is he a young fucking idiot or is he about the same age. They thought this would be a good idea on any level. So is it time that we stop thinking well he's just a goofy kid and start to realize now he's just a goofy fucking adult. 32 years old. Does the average 32 year old guy think that it would be a good idea to set his brother on fire for a marriage proposal. Unless you're Johnny Knoxville or the fellow that used to tuck his dick whatever his name was. I think Johnny. Old Dick Tucker I don't know who you're talking to I don't know who old Dick Tucker is but well I'm doing these jackass people they got to be goddamn old now the ones that are still alive and haven't killed themselves. Would that obviously that would they be the only people that would think this was a good idea that's over the age of 17 and three quarters probably. I mean maybe they had a really great idea I don't know maybe he was going to roll into the woods and start a forest fire. There's no fucking woods I don't I didn't see a ladder I don't know how they got down there. There's no water there's no hose there's one fire extinguisher and there's not even a goddamn ladder to get out of that place they wanted to make sure that nobody else caught fire while he burned to death. Now to be fair he hasn't died yet and we've seen him. Has he been on fire I know his brother's been with on fire Darby's. No they put they said Darby on fire a couple times he's been on fire a few times. He's been thrown off all sorts of things from high distances and we've seen him jump houses and cars we've seen. I think being high has a lot to do with all of this. No he's drug free apparently that's the problem he needs to get high. I'm gonna be like what the fuck am I doing with my life. If there if ever there was a poster boy for please take drugs it would have to be this fucking guy. We'll see what happened maybe Sting could talk to him but. I can't imagine if Dusty had come in at the first clash of champions and okay. We wanted you and flair to go for an hour but goddamn we don't have the time so go go 44 minutes and then we're going to get the flamethrower. What the what. The idea that the idea that the woman that he felt he loved so much he was going to ask to marry him. That her reaction was to Darby point the animals they put him out with the thing they just handed her clearly. Her reaction was oh my god let me hand this to you you won't take it I'm going to put it on the ground and run away. She didn't try to do anything to help this guy this guy could have burned to death the cops would have showed me what happened. He would have pointed the finger at her as it's her fault she wouldn't he was begging her to put him out. Who would be ascribed to blame. In a situation like that when the cops get there. Oh that's interesting. The guys burned to a crisp but Darby can say well no he asked me to do it. Well but at the same point if you if you go over to the fucking park and just in the middle of broad daylight say hey would you take this gun and shoot me. And you shoot the guy does that mean when the cops get there oh well he asked you to do it okay with no worries then go on a batch business. Yeah and you know when productions do something usually. You know they go through the right channels it's not just hey I got like people on fire wherever I want because. They say no there there's actually trained professionals and or crew members and or people standing by with safety measures and or a professional film crew not some. Jack off slacker want to be with a fucking iPhone shooting two morons the bottom of a swimming pool setting each other on fucking fire. So again did she violate some kind of good Samaritan law she's in front of a guy who's been set on fire she's holding a fire extinguisher. She chose not to act. I think she's an accomplice. I think they're all going to your honor she had no idea what they handed her she didn't know what it was she thought it could have been lighter fluid these two brothers are crazy they're always lighting things on fire they helped. Like this guy swerves house on fire they've been lighting all sorts of things on fire. She had no idea. Yeah arsonist arsonist wrestling is what we've got here these people are all fire bugs. I don't know that that's the right way to start a life together off anyway do you feel like we see him do more like private I don't know if you call my angles we see him do more private angles and we do like him do stuff on a. But every self a WTV is never like he's gone it's always like oh let's see what adventure is on on social media. See remember like when when Doug Basham came in a movie WTV with a bald head and I custom screamed at the fucking writers well I custom screamed Johnny ace through through him to the writers. For not telling me so I could have booked a hair match here's what they should have done they should have come to television. And they should have had Darby turn the heel by setting his own brother on fire while he's trying to propose to his wife. And then he can Darby could reveal I've always wanted her and he set the son of a bitch on fire so that he could have her. What a healing be. They just wasted it. Oh well. Well we should share the idea if Tony changes his mind. Well see now it's been done though. And he's gonna have to wait till his brother finds another girl that'll talk to him because they scared this one off. Speaking of scaring women off Brian. There's a there's another well I happily I won't say another there's a happily married couple over in the WWE that neither one of them had to set the other on fire to get the wedding accomplished. And as Seth Rollins and Becky Lynch did you ever remember hearing either of them got set on fire at the wedding or anything the proposal the honeymoon. I understand there was some smoke on the honeymoon. I haven't heard anything about any arson friction friction you understand you get going too fast. But apparently our friend Seth Rollins Brian. Not happy with me or our friend shit staying a k a Vince Russo. This was while we were on break. Seth did an interview with somebody somewhere for some reason. And was asked to compare the two of us me and old Vinnie root. And although I came out the best of it. Because of any room was without any redeeming quality whatsoever. I got a caveat or two and a couple of nice things but apparently Becky still mad at me. For saying that she was crazy when she got pregnant a couple years ago while she was making more money than the federal government had ever printed before right in the middle of the biggest run of her life and boom. Self inflicted injury. Unforced error she's on the sidelines. I said what the fuck rotten timing and boy it must have made an impression. Because my former friend old Tyler black has not been able to come out with a full throated endorsement of me since then so he's he's obviously trying to keep everything nice and and placid at home. But did it should Becky really be that mad at me for what I said I didn't say anything personal about him. Otherwise and she just cost the family millions of dollars. But I didn't think she'd take it that fucking hard. Well you don't think this is just him being mad on his own. No. Anyone has said anything good about me at all. Well what did you listen to the tone of the things going on and you. We have the audience. That's why I'm saying you can determine for yourself whether you think. That he is classifying both of us the same way or whether he's just trying to say enough about me to. Keep the things again nice and calm at the homestead. See about that. This is Seth Franklin Rollins talking to Jay Moore apparently Jay Moore is a show in the name of the show is more stories. Who is Jay Moore. He's a comedian. No he played Dennis the menace on television didn't he. That was Jay North. Jay North. Oh I'm thinking of Tonto on the Lone Ranger. No Jay Moore is a comedian. No that was Jay Silverheels. Well he's now married to Jeannie Bus who's the head of Wow Women of Wrestling. Who Seth Franklin Rollins is married Jeannie Bus now. I thought he was still married to Becky. Jay Moore I believe. Jay Seth Rollins married Jay Moore. All right let's go to the audio here Seth Rollins. But I did have like a high school teacher that said you know you're never going to work with that voice you have to learn how to speak like a normal person. And years later when I was on the Nanny and they interviewed my parents. They asked my my parents if when I was a little kid did you know it seemed like I had. That's Seth Rollins. Could you tell. Becky is really a masculine. See that's Seth Rollins but now let's go to the real audio here Seth Rollins on a Jay Moore show. Who's side are you on Jim Jim Cornette the tennis racket guy. Cornette yeah Jim Cornette versus the Vince Guy the writer. Russo. Yes. So I hate them both. Cornette says when I. I hate them both. I think they're both jackasses. But but if you had to if you like were like under your head which one would you say. As a fan. I mean I kind of want to hang out with Cornette a little more. So I've hung out with Cornette because Cornette was a book of mine. No he was fine. He's super entertaining. I mean the guy and he can still cut a promo. He just he's a victim of the hot take culture where like he has to say the craziest thing that come to his brain. And he that's how he makes his money on his podcast. Sure as the animal still has Down syndrome. So yeah but he's like. Shockwave is the goat. He's an idiot. Shockwave. Fucking joe. They're both idiots but if I had to pick one it'd be Cornette. See a clear endorsement a clear endorsement for me right there. And he said what he had to say to play Kate Becky who's still. Wounded I'm sure about what I had said about their spawn. He said I hate them both he hates you he just said he hates you. But then he said nice things about me. I hate him but if I think about it I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him fuck I gotta say nice things if I really think about it. But I hate him. How can I say this without making my wife mad but at the same time stick somewhat to the truth. I can right now be in TNA waiting for the big AMC debut. But I do agree with him. Veruso is not entertaining and I am. So see we found common ground again Seth. Before you even get more of what Rollins had to say there. How do you like the way the question was set up. What is your take on Jim Cornette the tennis racket guy and the Vince guy. The Vince Ryder guy. Obviously a wrestling expert. That you know is really going to ask the hard questions of was this some type of media production for him to. Well I guess what's he selling surgery these days off he's hurt he's injured what was he. What was he selling or advertising on this appearance. I don't know just himself apparently I guess he just had time on his hands and. He's getting. Too much time on my hands tick tick in a way. He'll probably do a lot more interviews. I love Seth I love Seth what a talent he is he's tremendous and and yes he's he's correct I was and continue to be very entertaining. Is he correct that he hates you. Do you think he really hates you. I don't think so I don't think if we were in the same room together and he had a blunt instrument his hand I don't believe that he would cave my skull in. I would think that there would be other people standing in line to do that well before Seth Rollins. Don't you think if he came up to you wanted to start shit you can take out his legs pretty easily because they're all fucked up. Well see I would I would feel bad about doing that because I've had the knee problems before it would make me. All skeevy to take out somebody else's bad knees. I would just like you just did remind him that he'd still be waiting on the AMC premiere if it hadn't been for me down there in DNA and then. Who paid for that kid. Ah well well your wife was off and unproductive who paid for that kid that's right it was what I did for you pal. No but I'm sure he's he's still again placating his domestic situation while begrudgingly admitting that. Then he would say you know I'm he said it before somewhere I don't even remember where but it was a man at Jim Cornette right now or something like that. Yes. Kind of very casual. I'm not happy with him. Not I hate him. That's that's another jump. It's not big it's not a big compliment I hate him and yet I'd save him over Vince Russo like that's is that a big compliment to you. Yeah. Well, it just goes to show that even the threat of Becky Lynch giving him a proper tongue lashing when he got home after that interview. He still had to say something good about. So I imagine if she wasn't around and she wouldn't mad at me he'd be effusive with praise for me. Well, there you go. We'll see I mean thank God he got the WWE got out of that fucking speedo whatever he was wearing early in his career. But Jim. Back then he back then he had a speedo fucking physique and now it's it's more of an elder statesman type of thing with the long pants. But it is my show you know and you know what Brian I'll tell you what. Right just that interview that Seth Rollins did right there. It would have been all kinds of different. If he didn't know that Becky Lynch was going to be listening to it. And what he should have done was before he left the house he should have said hey Becky, I got a present for you. I want you to stick these in your in your holes and listen to them till I get home. And I'm talking about the Raycon. Every day earbuds and the Raycon products that they have it by Raycon dot com and the ear holes just to be and the and the ear holes. Yes the well they don't they don't sell you ear holes you've got to have those. 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As we sit here now about nine or 10 days ago and people know the results of the matches and I could really give a shit what the results of the matches were but it was newsworthy more for the commentary that we have to make and commentary that some other industry professionals have already made on the fact that these dipshits are going to kill themselves. If somebody doesn't rain them in. And this was the theme of the show. All night long was who's going to get hurt the worst. It was like a competition that they were trying. And again, especially it will talk about poor old Kyle Feltcher here to second. But especially him. I'm astonished that he's not a quadriplegic. And this is not. It's some wise ass it's never been in the ring and never sniffed a goddamn knee pad is going to sell well that's because they know what they're doing their professionals cornet just won't admit it. It was sheer. dumb fucking luck. That this guy walked away from this move. He's just dumb fucking luck. And I'm not the only one saying it. Because it's obvious. But the again, the a w fans go crazy as either I as the old people that don't know about today's modern wrestling. It's well they don't say anything about the WWE when they do. Yes, we do. We do. We talk about it all the time when everybody drops each other on their fucking head. So that argument is at best. It's a bunch of fucking guys that don't realize what they're doing to themselves or the business. Because they the accumulated damage that they are suffering is going to bite him in the ass one of these days but one of these big moves will be an immediate ass bite. When the guy can't get they've already had people that couldn't get up and had to be carted off. At least nobody's been permanently paralyzed. This was the closest they've come. But it's not just going to bite them in the ass sooner or later. But it damages the business because you've got these goofy fans watching these goofy wrestlers get up from shit that they if they were working at the out of stay down for a month and sell the fucking angle and draw some money but they pop back to their feet because they're scared they might not be able to get up and they jump back up and do some more shit. Oh I'm okay. And then the fans just six. Oh well that that didn't hurt anybody. So next time he's got a fall 20 feet instead of 10 or it's got to be even more dangerous and then they eventually the prophecy will fulfill itself. So not only has Tony again delivered another masturbatory Meltzer fantasy where everybody went 20 minutes or more and did every goddamn move they could do and nothing beat anybody and the basics and the the overall work of everybody involved in these things was the shits but the danger level was off the charts and they hit half the things they tried so Uncle Dave thinks everything six stars and meanwhile it was the same thing as always five hours or more of nonstop chaos and bullshit amongst heels versus heels baby faces versus baby faces people who are not affiliated with each other in any way just being thrown together for multiple man matches and tournament So would you like to hit the high points before we talk about the meat of the matter Brian. Yeah I'm surprised you watched any of this I watched the pay-per-view I didn't expect you to so I'm pretty surprised you checked out a good deal of this. When I had not a good deal when MJF won the belt which we knew he was going to because that's the only thing they could have done I knew I was going to watch that match but then when I saw some of the other clips I was like my God and the thing with Kyle and I said all right what I'm going to do is since I've got this whole thing I'm going to zip through and a couple of these matches I'm going to just drop in on and see if there's any hope for any of these people you'll never guess what the answer is but the pre-show Brian you need to help me with a little bit because the pre-show of course that's where they put on a show before the show and they had four matches on the pre-show this time Julia Hart and Blue Sky beat Hyen and Maya World now these are the two that they brought in when the other two girls wouldn't do the job for two other girls here a few weeks ago and I've still I've never heard these names said out loud I just read the results of the pre-show so is this a girl named Hyen and a girl named Maya World or are these the world sisters Hyen and Maya I don't know for sure it's definitely does anybody else it's definitely Maya World and the other one I presume was and you're welcome to it I presume the other one was Hyen Hyen Hy-oh well that happened Eddie Kingston beat Zach Gibson I know they were probably celebrating in Vegas Maschera Dorito and Bandido teamed up to beat Fadass Davis and Rocky Romero and then they had the obligatory eight man tag team match where Hong Kong Fooie, Kevin Knight, Jungle Jack off and Dino apparently beat Ricochet his two stooges and Josh Alexander who were in two different heel groups and Dino is hurt so they they put him in the match but they covered it up some kind of way that was the pre-show then the the pay-per-view started and we don't have to go too long into the pay-per-view before we get to the meat of the matter for one that the first match was the semi-final of the continental breakfast tournament oh boring and take a shit one-on-one this long-awaited grudge match where they've stared at each other and made faces each other while they lost the power of speech oh boring beat him I swear to God Tony Khan has spent millions of dollars for these lazy broken down no good nothing happened in Japanese ex superstars with Okada being the biggest example of getting nothing for a lot he's lazy he doesn't try he can't talk he can't work he's of if ever Ernie Ladd's words you're stealing from AEW wrestling we're more applicable I can't imagine and then they got our boy take that at least he's got the size he's got the youth he's not broken down yet with a proper manager he could fucking be a top heel and they beat him with this fucking guy well again it's a tournament they want to set up Okada the previous champion going to the finals we could discuss his championship the unified title when we get to that match well and then the second match in the tournament was Moxley our friend Dick the boozer against Kyle Feltcher same thing with Kyle we compared him a couple weeks ago to Austin Theory Theory's got all the advantages Theory's a better worker right now Theory has better minds around him theories in a better group theories got Paul Heyman poor Kyle's out here on his own having 25 minute five star classics with fucking Steamboat's daughter but at least he's young and he's got athletic potential and he looks good at blah blah blah you don't want Kyle in your finals of your tournament you don't want take a shit the finals of your tournament you want Dick the boozer the world's worst pushed wrestler and the laziest son of a bitch on your roster so again every time Tony has a decision to make he makes the wrong one but in this one this is where Moxley nearly killed Kyle and what I did was with these matches I knew they were going 20 minutes or more so I would let him ring the bell and I'd skip ahead 15 minutes see what I could see and they went way over 20 in this thing but as they were doing it Brian you tell me because I don't know I've only been watching wrestling 50 years Moxley gets behind they're on the top turnbuckle Kyle's sitting on the top buckle Moxley climbs up behind him gets Sergeant Slaughter's Cobra Clutch on Kyle and then stands up and backsuplexes him with a Cobra Clutch hold on like a superplex off the turnbuckles and he drove him right down in the middle of the ring on top of his fucking head but what was it supposed to be what bump was he supposed to take I legitimately don't know was it was Kyle supposed to go all the way over and land on his stomach well that was a stupid fucking move because it doesn't really make sense with the way that he had him that would be the only safe way to take it but that it wouldn't look right and the only other way to take this bump would have been the way they did which would be I'm going to jerk you off the top rope 10 feet in the air and drop you in the middle of the ring on top of your fucking head so Brian did you have any kind of epiphany on what this was supposed to be before it went so dangerously allegedly wrong no I don't think there's a safe bump you know if you think about it you said the best case scenario is he flips all the way around lands on his belly but that wasn't going to happen and that would be stupid and not even a natural reaction of the move that he was being given no it really didn't look good also the other thing is it wasn't the finish it wasn't even a necessary thing it'd be one thing we're going to do the craziest thing ever it's the finish I'm not saying that justifies it this was just another move on the way to the finish well and that's the thing is it well you had you had Okada and take a shit it looked like synchronized swimming underwater with fake strikes and horrible basics and sloppy shit and no facials except for the goofy faces and then they botched the finish where in the continental classic is supposed to be no interference Okada goes for to use the screwdriver but they got their timing off and he missed him the first time and had to hit him the second time and the referee had to turn his back for no reason twice and the fans bullshit boot it but then this thing with Moxley and Kyle and by the way they're suddenly cheering Moxley now because even though he has not turned or done anything because again this is the first two matches on the show or heels versus heels so now they're cheering for Moxley the guy that's been pouring bleach down people's throats for a year and we never did find out what the fuck the whole goddamn death writers thing is and now they're the good guys because the fans are bored and picking who they're going to cheer for themselves and you when you've lost control enough to where the fans are just cheering for the people they like regardless of the presentation you've made a tragic error to begin with but in this match that that was the thing the suplex right on top of his head you couldn't determine as a professional what he was supposed to be trying to do to him because there was no bump out of this to take but you could have told the fans after they saw this if if Kyle had a laid there and got beat and they sent the doctors in you could have told people he was a quadriplegic and they would have believed it but after 30 seconds of both of them selling they both popped up and did shit back and forth like nothing was wrong and Kyle hit a brain buster and got a two count and then they did Moxley hit him with a DDT and got a two count hit him with another DDT and got a two count after this goddamn near fatal thing off the top row and then after all that Moxley got the choke on him held him stationary in the ring for more than 30 seconds and the referee rang the bell so the same guy that's going to win just hit the guy with his finish twice that didn't work after nearly killing the son of a bitch and that didn't beat him and then he just chokes him out in a boring finish in the middle of the ring in 25 fucking minutes so that was our first two matches I'm sorry but that was the first two matches just because of this tournament fixation at Tony has Kyle versus heal his young perspective superstar almost was made a cripple for the rest of his life and out of being able to pick two young guys that can go and aren't being paid a fortune or two old guys who are embarrassing and are being paid a fortune he beat the two young guys I'm sorry go ahead and after this was set up in the previous match Okada and Tkesta really picked up at the end I started getting into it alright let's see what they're going to do and then I groaned when Okkesta Okada went to the corner and pulled out the screwdriver which is the stupidest foreign object that's a regular foreign object used by a team of wrestlers and wrestling the screwdriver to stab someone and then missing a guy when you're supposed to stab him in the head and missing him the first time where the referee's got to fucking have a some type of fucking shudder or goddamn palpitation or whatever he's got to jerk around and turn his back twice but Okada uses it to beat the Kesta who's in the same stable with them Don Callis leaves it Okada doesn't leave with the Kesta Don Callis also represents Fletcher the screwdriver he was looking to use wasn't there so there's something there with that oh yes Kyle had gone to try to find the screwdriver but it was it had already been used Moxley is the babyface I think it's not the way a turn would have been done ever before ever but he is now officially a babyface and they're going to do death riders versus the Callis family oh Christ alright I can't wait to see Wheeler-Utah versus Rocky Romero that would be a real barn burner main event in any arena across the country but Fletcher and Moxley it was really good and then like a lot of matches in AEW specifically but it's a WWE problem now too you want to get the pop so you do the two counts nonstop but you kick out of everything and this was the peak of the show match two because the fans expelled much of their energy with the near falls in this match much like they were prepping for a colonoscopy and they expelled most everything by this time this match was over so Brian before we go any further in the pay-per-view because there are hours left this particular match I mean obviously no names were mentioned this specific spot was not mentioned but this particular match and really this whole show as we'll talk about prompted William Regal to send out a tweet just to nobody else but just the active wrestlers as a guy again with experience somebody that they're supposed to look up to he's been a trainer he's had neck injuries he's speaking from experience and because of what they said or what he said in the AEW fans all knowing better than a 40 year veteran that's had two broken necks they jumped all over him because he's a WWE student he was talking about the wrestlers not this company's wrestlers or that company's wrestlers only stupid fucking wrestlers if I was in charge of OVW right now and this is what I had to work with I'd close it down because there's nobody left to learn anything because nobody wants to be fucking taught they just keep doing this stupid shit to get these stupid fans to scream for him because that's where the pops come in and wrestling now when they break furniture or the people think that somebody got really hurt yeah the pop used to be from the babyface grabbing the heel and the chance he was about to punch him and now it's from a near fall or from a near fatal injury yeah well we have so do you have do you have Regals tweet there that we can read I do and he wasn't the only one one of the first ones I saw was even Missy Hyatt said something and she had the same thought I had when I saw that spot live Missy Hyatt said I mean we literally saw Missy Hyatt die in the ring after a career of bumps onto his neck and it turns out it does damage but here's William Regals tweet I stay off here but was alerted to something today that has alarmed me I don't read any comments so don't waste your time trying to argue or justify your very wrong opinions on this I broke my neck twice September 93 in ring and a car wreck in 97 and stupidly never told anyone and I was taught properly how to bridge and not land on the top of my head it's a skill that maybe 99.9% of people don't know or will ever learn anymore I kept going but knew all the tricks that again people don't learn now and watch film and just copy after Missawasong passed from his neck problems I thought it would stop this nonsense but it got worse and whenever I talk to people about them doing it it's quote well it doesn't hurt believe me it will I have people close to me now Brian being one Daniel Brian or Brian Danielson who is suffering daily like myself from his neck it's a daily misery and sleep and every other aspect of your life is more than hard although people use the term tough about me you'll never hear me say that as I'm not and don't think I am and have never been money and whatever nonsense fame is supposed to be is not worth the pain or supposed to evening glory you get from these ridiculous moves dropping yourself on your head the vast majority of fans don't know the difference between a vertical suplex and a brain buster boom and that's a far tamer move than many I see now I'm 57 and become less relevant every day but fame has never been my thing so most of you doing this stupid stuff are not going to listen to me but hopefully a few do stop it now if you want a decent quality of life after wrestling because that part of your life will be over before you know it and wrestling done right is hard enough but broken necks or death are not something you should think is tough or cool it's idiotic thinking and with that was an image of his x-ray or an x-ray of his neck and again everybody said well what about the WD he's just saying that about EW because everybody's got fucking morons he didn't name anyone he didn't name anybody and besides that I'm sure that there are a lot of other people in these little dipshit outlaw promotions that we don't watch that he might even keep up with that he probably sees getting dropped on their heads in even worse conditions on indie shows and rec centers for no money with no medical staff standing by or whatever you see the goofy videos on Twitter all the time of some idiot that thinks he can do the triple flip off the top through the table like he sees on TV and he goes face first to the fucking floor that is again for years in the territory days guys wrestled smarter because not only did they not have guaranteed money and that's what everybody says here's another point okay you used to have a job making a million dollars a year but if you got hurt you weren't going to get paid so sometimes you had to work hurt or you've got a job making a million dollars a year but now it's guaranteed Brian so even if you break your neck and end up being a paraplegic you'll still get that million dollars does that make it easier when you have to say oh shit honey I just broke my neck I've got to eat through a straw for the next year and a half is just because you know you're going to get paid do you still not want to try to avoid the broken neck is what I'm asking you know the other thing is people try to argue that this is progress like this is wrestling progress the advancement of moves and bumps and different things the different acrobatics we see people are doing acrobatics going back to the beginning I mean you hear all the arguments but now again we're not at a time where fans get riled up over the heel and it almost feels like the business moved away from that more because of people inside the business specifically in AEW but I mean WWE 2 moving away from that then the fans wouldn't do the idea like K-Faibs dead the fans won't boo heels or do no they will but you have to present wrestling that way when everything's just about the athleticism and and you got a bunch of pussy heels that don't want people to dislike them but they don't mind risking goddamn all kinds of injuries do these stupid phony looking dives but oh god I don't want people to be mad at me what and that's the thing is unfortunately because all of these guys were brought up into the business by these morons that say it doesn't matter whether people know it's a work and it doesn't matter you know that's all entertainment and we're all entertainers and actors and sports entertainers and everything that's the stupidest thing that's ever happened because the way it's mattered then is now not only does everybody know it's a work but they don't even bother to try in their performances to hook people what I'm saying is all these matches look fake and phony because they're not bothering to make the basics look legitimate they're just that stuff in the middle of their stunts and they this stupid Japanese trading forearms or chops I'll let you hit me and then you let me hit you and just all this bullshit that's why people are only popping on broken furniture or broken bones because everything else looks so fucking stupid silly and phony it's not whether you know it's a work it's what you're looking at and when you've got these subpar physical specimens and these goddamn look at spitball Bailey for God's sake or pockets or just jokes just comedy figures and he will managers winking and even the top guys in the main events not being able to make shit look legitimate and not taking advice and or instruction and or as Regal said nobody's teaching these things anymore they might be if anybody was listening but it doesn't involve doing a stunt with so with a flamethrower so they don't care and that's why all the matches are the same and nobody gives a shit except the dwindling number of people that want to give it seven stars and everybody else is thinking look these fucking and pasty white effeminate looking small guys pretending to fight each other and it looks like shit that's what we got and they're killing each other while they're doing it because they're not smart enough to realize the reason why nobody ever did this shit for 125 years wasn't because they're not capable athletically but because it's fucking stupid and not sustainable and it's not what the business is you are manipulating emotions based on having a large number of people with a strong positive attachment to one guy and a strong negative negative attachment to the other guy let's see him fight only a goddamn complete idiot gives a fuck about whether they do a jumping leaping tombstone piledriver off the second turnbuckle in the course of that or not now you're just a goddamn idiot you know again it's not just an AEW problem these bumps and someone is going to get hurt and you can't see you know what they're going to be don't you Brian what's that Jim they're going to be bedridden think about it 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business caught police say Morris Town, Tennessee is the date line the Morris Town Police Department and boy you talk about a SWAT team there folks the Morris Town Police Department said they captured the monkey who damaged a business Sunday morning according to the MPD officers responded to Trade Center a musical instrument store on South Cumberland Street in Morris Town after a cinnamon cappuccine monkey went inside the business apparently he was just walking down the street and decided to go in by some musical instruments looking for some gear MPD said the monkey caused damage to the business and musical instruments animal control responded to the business and tried to capture the monkey in the store but were unsuccessful according to MPD the monkey was captured at a different location later in the evening additional information was not released released and there is a picture of this god damn monkey with the most frightened face you've ever seen standing in the middle of a fucking music store in front of an electric guitar going what the fuck is going on around here I want the additional information where did this monkey come from is there a zoo nearby not when I lived there there was a couple of houses that we were a little you know on the fence about but not an official zoo but was the business open did the monkey break in how did the monkey break in I see no burglary tools if the business was open then why is a monkey walking down South Cumberland Street in Morris Town in the middle of the day and why couldn't they capture it they couldn't capture it there but it was found later on when it stopped into a bar to get a drink so once they confronted it inside the music store I thought it would be playing drums I thought that was the funny visual it somehow got back out of the music store like how did they let it get back out well they couldn't catch it it took off and I guess I guess nobody well they this is Morris Town we're not we're not dealing with the most highly trained monkey catchers in Morris Town you got to go to a big city like Chicago or Detroit these are inexperienced monkey captureers and where did it another location where was that other location could have been the tally Ward rec center where did you see this news story it's on it's on Twitter somebody tweeted it to me from WVLT in Knoxville monkey on the loose in your old stomping grounds this is what happens when you elect a wrestler to be mayor well no Morris Town now doesn't have anything to do with Knoxville that's a completely different county they're on their own up there this is what happens when you let Jim Cornette live in your town oh hey I've been gone for a while I wonder I wonder if the monkey escaped from not there is a zoo in Knoxville how many miles is it from Knoxville to Morris Town about 40 how fast does a monkey travel unless it gets a bus or a vine it'd have to swing uphill anyway let's go back to the paper view shall we and talk about those monkeys because the next match on the card the third match besides the pre-show obviously was a street fight match between FTR and Austin Gunn and Juice Robinson Branna said the first two matches were heels against heels weren't Austin Gunn and Juice Robinson heels last time we we looked I don't think so I think they weren't I think the guns returned his baby faces and then his brother got hurt and I think Juice Robinson returned was he a surprise in a casino match or something I don't fucking know and he shaved off his charisma so you didn't know who was him he was really he was really shaved a while back now he's grown some back but it's still too too well kept he grew that back and his barber took revenge on him obviously you've got FTR who are just floundering with a manager that doesn't know how to manage and is not allowed to have manager segments that managers do on this program because nobody else knows either and Austin Gunn is one half of the guns I like the guns like see the guns back together not a half of them Juice Juice and J J and Juice Jiden Juice they were a great team that great match with FTR this ain't them either why is this a street fight FTR is I know they've done some angle for it but FTR is having a no rules notice qualification street fight match with all kinds of blood against a middle card thrown together tag team just to put it on the pay-per-view and now Austin Gunn is dressing like one of the Godwins with overalls so I'm only going to talk about the spot at the finish which everybody was talking about but no rules no DQ street fight they started with a four-way on the floor they went up the entrance ramp and fought into the bleachers and I said I'm gonna skip this shit I know you watched it and I know you have a couple of thoughts before we get to the finale what the chairs the trash cans the tables etc is it same thing with FTR did they have a way too complicated match for the opposition that they couldn't keep up with and it wasn't necessary culminating in this goddamn overly contrived and at the same time flat finish that I saw or did they do something great in the middle no this may have been the worst FTR match I've ever seen and it seemed like the crowd was overwhelmed with apathy you know this wasn't good the highlight was the table spot I watched it over and over I laughed about it seemingly everyone else did this was not good at all this is the the table spot you mentioned was poor Stokely there's no heat on any manager in this company because they never do anything successfully but they do try to give them all the comedy spots in the world this one was unintentionally funny they're going into the finish and Stokely is on the apron of the ring and has tried to grab a chair away from Juice Robbins and they start with juice in the ring and Stokely on the apron they start having a little tug of war with the chair which ends with juice gives him a shove and the idea that they're going for is that Stokely is going to fall off the apron of the ring and crash through the table that's set at ringside because everybody knows you can't have a professional wrestling match without breaking a table so that was what they wanted to do and the only reason I'm laughing about this is because I mean it may have shook him up but it didn't look anywhere near like Stokely damaged himself as much as Kyle did so we can laugh about it and also the table got comedic too and I'll tell you why this happened but what happened was Stokely flew off the apron of the ring skidded off the top of the table and went straight over it and landed almost head first on the ground and almost if he'd been a foot longer or foot farther he would have jammed his head and neck on the barricade around the ring but he landed it looked like just short of that so he may have got a knot on his head but this didn't look like it should have killed it but here's the problem Stokely may have trained to wrestle at one point but Stokely is not an experienced guy going through a fucking table so if you're going to do something like this you can't just talk about it ahead of time or maybe they even went out to the ring and walked through it and they didn't take the bump obviously Juice may have said I will have the tug of war and then I'll give you the shove and you fly off and go through the table the problem is Brian if you ever you're not a country boy you don't live down south where it's all peaceful and quiet and looks like Mayberry RFD but if you ever tried to skip a flat rock on a lake yes okay then you've got the idea that you get a flat rock and you throw it flat sideways and it skips off the water which is also the top of the water is flat and you see how many times it skips before it sinks that's what they did with Stokely Stokely didn't come off the apron of the ring and go downwards onto the table Stokely was so worried and you can go back and watch the video and see what I'm talking about he was so worried that he wasn't going to make it to the table that he'd launched himself off that apron flung himself off it and he skipped right off the table like a flat rock on a fucking lake because you ain't going to break the table if you're going sideways over the top of it you have to be coming down with your weight in the middle of it and the closer you get to the middle these here it's going to break because you've hit the part in between the two legs that has the least amount of support this is just is it physics or fucking science or gravity or whatever you call it so Stokely flew backwards to try to make sure he made the table and skipped off the table and went over and landed the heap on the floor and then the table because he had brushed it on the way by the table did a slow motion fall right on top of it just to add the insult to the injury right and I'm like this poor fucking guy but that's what you have to tell somebody who's not and again the reason why I'm saying this people there's going to be people out cornet thinks he's so smart and how great match that he ever have I've been watching this doing this and booking this and producing this for 50 fucking years so at some point or another unless you're a complete idiot you not only see how shit goes wrong for other people but occasionally you fucked it up yourself and you learn from it and so I'm not breaking any revolutionary ground here but they should have told the poor guy to make sure you come straight off the apron and down not across or you're a fuck yourself up and that's something that I would have told any manager or referee or valet or anybody who's not a regular wrestler is doing this all the fucking time I don't know why it didn't come up maybe because they are convinced that everything they do is always going to work or just hope fling themselves and hope for the best maybe that's what they do but so then the point being now that if you know anything about wrestling and how to construct finishes you want to go home immediately after you've got the people as up as they're going to get in the course of the fucking match and usually especially when it was a manager like a heenan or a Dylan or a myself or whatever once the manager has taken his big bump that's the fucking pop then you go to the finish oh god no they did four more moves to Austin Gunn including two spike pile drivers one of them on a title belt and then beat him one two three and they tried the they tried the shatter machine actually was afterwards no that's what it was they tried to hit the shatter machine on I guess it was juice after Stokely took the table bump they didn't get it the first time because juice went into it and was going to boost himself but Dax wasn't ready so Dax shoves him back into the ropes and then boosts him and that was a two count they hit their finish after the manager took his bump here's the shatter machine boom two count what the fuck then and no it was Austin Gunn's who it was because then they did four more things to him including the two spike pile drivers and then beat him and then nobody gave a shit black it was flat the manager takes the bump everybody's up here's our finish on this guy boom one two three they're going to win anyway but they can't help themselves from making it so complicated and so convoluted and can try it so they had it there they would have got a pop they did four more things to him took a while to set those up beat him flat the guy didn't have an out it just whatever the fuck so that was FTR's match and we hope that Stokely is alright but he seemed like he was better off than Kyle was then they had a 13 minute girls tag team match go ahead Stokely has no heat every manager you named if any even if you had slid off the table it would have been a big big pop he doesn't have any heel heat even with FTR acting like heels and doing whatever they did the Beth Phoenix a while back Stokely like no one's looking to get him why would they be what's he done to anybody except he says a couple of lines on a promo and then he's bumped around and treated like a buffoon he's never caused FTR to win a major match or championship by his nefarious tactics he's not ever said anything horrible to somebody unless it was meant in a comedy way why would he might be mad at him the biggest pop when he took the bump was the laugh when the table turned over on him but they don't know how to have real managers here Don Callis is a goddamn textbook example of that but anyway as I said they had a 13 minute girls tag who was in it I don't remember do you off the top of my head I don't know okay so then we get to Darby Allen and Gabe kid and I had thought I forgot I thought Gabe kid was Jeff Cobb but Gabe kid is the team who Josh Alexander so did they do some kind of angle on one of the shows we don't watch or did they just come up with this match as a double juice grudge match where Darby was challenging for the world title and it seemed like on the cusp of being a main player in the company and now he's in there with a mid card part timer and they're having a bloodbath well if you remember where did this come from if you remember when they had their residency in Philadelphia Darby put Gabe kid in a body bag and drove off with him oh but they found him and he came back I presume he was gone a while well more of Darby's torture porn no semblance of a wrestling match the majority was spent on the floor and then finally Gabe kid gave Darby a leaping pile driver and got a two count and then went to do something else and Darby just rolled him up one two three so there was that at least it wasn't long they had a tornado intergender eight man tag team match oh fuck this match oh the little bits I saw this match were awful well I saw what people put out on Twitter before I actually watched the show so I knew to skip this because I'd been pissed off I wouldn't watch the rest of this show but it was Roderick Strong, Mark Briscoe, Pockets and Tony Storm against Claudio Garcia, Useless and Schaefer and what the people shared on social media of this business was Tony Storm and Pockets doing ballroom dancing where it looked like a 66 Batman TV series fight scene where they would swing each other out and they'd jump up and kick an opponent or hit the guy or whatever it was like swing your partner docy do kick him in the balls and step on his toe it's it's embarrassing and again I've I've worked with Roderick I've worked with Mark Briscoe and Claudio don't know the other idiots but they wouldn't have done this 10 years ago they they still took their even though they were the modern fellows they took their business seriously and they weren't just out to just jack off in the ring in front of the fans that paid to see it and just shit on everything but now in this group in this company they don't care it's like hey Roderick's working with his wife Ricky Morton told me one time this was like five six seven eight years ago he said he was working on a show somewhere and they had him in a multiple person tag team match and the guys had told him right before they started to match six people and they said they were going to be in a team match and they were going to be in a team match and the guys had told him right before they started to match said watch this first spot he's thinking oh this is going to be great or whatever the fuck and they started doing the slow motion thing and he said Jimmy said I didn't know it was coming and I was so embarrassed and what can I do they're just working to match in slow motion on purpose and people are laughing he's like what what could I do this way you could have fucking just dropped down on the floor and left but I guess he hadn't got paid yet but even the guys that at one point you could count on and that weren't assholes and jackoffs they're just doing this shit now because they don't care they're getting paid anyway they don't they don't have any pride or self-respect I don't know what the fuck it is I can't explain it anyhow that was followed by Statlander beating Hater and then we got that was alright the crowd wasn't terribly into it for a lot of it but that was pretty good yeah it was also three hours fucking in plus the pre-show and finally we got to the meat of the matter on the last two of these things the tournament final Dick the boozer versus oh sleepy oh boring and I wrote finally finally somebody beat this lazy sack of shit and it had to be moxley again it's another heel versus heel match but now they're cheering moxley even though he's done nothing to turn they just need somebody to cheer for since all the other babyface this company are schmucks or nerds and they ring the bell for this thing three hours into the show plus the pre-show and you know with these two because moxley in his pickled brain somehow fantasizes himself a badass mixed martial artist and a Japanese wrestling icon and he's wrestling death jitsu yeah that's what that's what you get when you watch this shit death jitsu it starts in your stomach and comes up your brings all the bile and the stomach acid up and he's in there with dipshit that's the one every Japanese tournament that is the greatest Japanese tournament wrestler of all time I got news for everybody I think Japanese wrestling used to be the best on the planet just like it used to be great here and the same thing has happened over there a bunch of unprofessional personality less talentless dipshits have taken the thing over and made it as bad there as it is here now and this is the worst of both you've got a broken down want to be great Japanese wrestler that couldn't fucking touch fuji nami's dick even though he probably wants to and you've got this mental incompetent American that wants to copy all the Japanese shit that he thinks is so great and is almost better at it than Kingston I think fuji nami's dope so that's what you got that's what you got the worst of modern Japanese wrestling plus contrived American spots kickouts of everything a washed up broken down guy against the worst pushed worker in the entire world and the last several minutes this thing was like watching milk sour and then they traded fake forearms my specialty 20 minutes moxley with the double armed DDT 123 what are you before we get to anything else about this because I'm fascinated about this one aspect of it what do you think about the fact that they had a continental classic and then a continental champion and they had the international champion and they merged them as the unified championship and that only lasted until this and now it's no longer a unified championship Okada goes back to just being the international champion any thoughts I don't even understand what you just said and you pretty much summarized it nobody understands with these bell everybody's got a bell everybody's got a title everybody's got a bell multiple Samoa Joe was coming into the goddamn matches for the last couple months as the AEW world champion while also carrying the ring of honor world six man title belt with him like that didn't just confuse the goddamn issue and who would give a shit and why they didn't immediately once that Joe won the real title declare the six man thing for ring of honor vacant and do another one of Tony's tournaments or whatever but just get that stink off of their real world champion but and not even talking about Joe's fiend camel carrying 14 belts out now she can't whip cream with an outboard motor went undefeated 115 fucking belts now they're beating her like a goddamn drum any the same thing with Moxley Moxley couldn't win a match he put Kyle O'Reilly over then he comes out and wins this fucking tournament in the most boring way possible it none of it none of this makes any sense and the I'll say one more thing and I'll quit on this we'll get to the main event you can tell that Tony this is the problem if this was just being done on a spur of the moment and it all makes no sense and there was no thought put into it you could understand it but Tony intricately over thinks this and writes this shit down and somehow this all makes sense to him but he's putting a lot of work into it and again for something that might just be being made up on the spot okay that's why it doesn't make any sense but for him to immerse himself in this night and day and it still don't make a lick of goddamn sense that's troubling to me to me Moxley now a babyface now a champion I thought when they created the national championship that was to replace the lost title that was unified but now championships galore and we'll see what happens with the babyface death riders well they're gonna have to be the life riders aren't they now can they be the death riders and be baby faces we're about to find out can they be the riders on the storm riders on the storm can you imagine them walking through the arena to that our leader is all drunk and our ship is sunk oh we wish we could have a match but we can't booker we catch I don't know all right all righty well now it's time for the main event Brian and I know you've been waiting on this like I have the world heavyweight title is on the line in a four way three babyface well two baby faces MJF is a heel that they're cheering louder than anyone and poor old Samoa Joe so we knew what was gonna happen here we just want to see how it was gonna happen with the pre-show we were four and a half hours in before the bell rang on this one and I think this was the shortest match of the night and that's probably because they realized what's why are we even here they can't have a match it's a four way they just do shit to each other the crowd was so tired out I've I saw people getting oxygen in the goddamn ringside seats there's nothing left to do in the ring people have bled people have been nearly killed furniture has been broken and so that's what they did they just had a match where they did shit to each other at one point Paige was just kneeling on the floor outside the ring leaning on the apron just watching what was happening in the ring they just they'll do their spot and then they'll roll out and in full view of the entire crowd in the building they'll just fucking sit there and wait for their next spot I mean I can't watch in one of these shows I don't know if anybody at the end of the night would have not been fired if they were working for Dusty Rhodes or Bill Watts or goddamn anybody definitely me and MJF was the smartest one because he for the most part this wasn't smart for business it wasn't a smart way to do the match but for him to not look like shit he would just take a bump and roll out you wouldn't see him again for ages he played almost no partners thing till the end and that was probably the path of least resistance let me just get out of the fucking way of these idiots at the start swerve dove on MJF and then Joe dove on both of them and then they all three stood up and stood there and waited for Paige to moonsault off the top onto him on the floor and he went over all three of them without touching them and all three of them fell down anyway and Sockface tried to cover it well he got Joe and MJF and swerved and hit heads what is this goddamn billiard championships we're doing a trick shot with fucking Minnesota Fats even when they have guys that can work the rotten booking the stupid multiple man matches and the idiots like Paige don't know what they're doing screw everything up and then they do the part where it's they try to counter and reverse everything because swerve and Paige think they're video game characters so it looks like watching drunk square dance it's so contrived it's obviously phony and the fans again they're waiting for somebody or something to get broken as I said MJF out of everything for most of the match then Hobbs hook and Shappoopy all ran down and just started beating people up in front of the referee but it's no disqualification and then the referee was arguing with the heels like you're not supposed to be doing this and they're paying no attention so the other referees come down now and get the heels and take them out but then they can't go to the finish they just they have interference in the middle of the matches like that's ever been a thing that ever happened ever anywhere ever did I mention ever and then they just keep going the match and then MJF's push swerve off the top rope like he was going to hit the fucking desk but he was a foot short so he just crumpled and then Paige hits Joe with two buckshot larrys but Joe doesn't take a bump he's got to do the Mantar Weeble wobble in the ring and there's nothing to do with that he's got to do the Mantar Weeble wobble in the ring and there's nothing that's also that's more overdone and worn out and wrestling than the big guy getting hit and staggering and waiting to be hit again while he's staggering so Paige hits Joe with two buckshots and is going for the third and MJF pushes Joe out of the way and kicks Paige in the balls and then gives Joe the heat seeker boom one two three so MJF did almost nothing and stole the title and I know people are just well that's the way the heel gets heat oh Christ ought to crug it and do it everything backwards if he was going to cheat and steal the title then have him cheat and steal the title in single match and then gradually force him into this goddamn predicament he was in where three guys that hate him are going to be in the same match and they're all going to try to kill him how's he going to get out of it he's not going to be able to steal it this time no they go backwards they have a four way they have the biggest star in the company MJF return from Hollywood and instead of him looking like a world beater he does almost nothing gets a cheap win stealing the belt and now they're going to have single matches after they've already had the four way and he's more popular as a heel than any of these other motherfuckers are his baby faces so explain to me how the fucking shit makes sense here how it makes sense I can't explain it to you that way why it happens I don't know what you're looking for I don't know what you're looking for here I'm looking for another job I'm looking for another fucking job is what I'm looking for they got the belt on MJF he didn't have to defeat Adam Page because they had Samoa Joe as a buffer so you set that up for the future swerve I don't know if there's going to be too much MJF swerve stuff in the future they're already setting up MJF and Omega that'll be pretty big oh Christ on a cracker hey you know what if anyone in AEW who would I want to see Kenny Omega work a good match with that's the one guy we really haven't seen right well that's true and now that Kenny actually has to try to wrestle and have matches instead of just doing all of his flying stuff because he's goddamn crippled himself if he listens to MJF he can probably have a good match now he won't be doing all that bullshit he won't have to but nevertheless I don't I honestly can't see how you can sell but what the fuck do I know I've only been booking for almost 40 years but how can you sell a single match between MJF and any of these guys when he's already beat them all in a fucking four way it's completely backwards but they start out with cages and then go to one fall 15 minute time limit matches that's their MO all this shit's backwards it's almost like we're looking in a mirror almost like it's world's end and that was indeed AEW world's end 2025 but you know what Brian if you were gonna pick if you had been gonna pick the winner and we did who would you have picked well we did we picked the winner MJF maybe we ought to start picking other things what do you think we did get the winner of this match that's what I think sorry for the longer later I think we got the winner you could say well what else should we pick what else see a way to start 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things to light and I've found something actually you know this book you have this book Scott teal our friend at scott over at crowbar press dot com one of the books that he is put out is a three volume set on pro wrestling and comic strips illustrations and cartoons and we talked about this a few months ago I love it it's amazing well there are comic strips and different drawings and etc and cartoons and he searched newspapers back to the dawn of the 20th century for various things that fit that nature even there's an amos and Andy short the wrestling match from 1934 it has cartoons in so they have he has reprints of those ads and other things involving comic strips but there are also some newspaper articles that may just have one little you know the old sports pages had the little caricatures of the baseball players the football players or whatever and there's one full page from St. Louis December 27 1931 a full page article on londos and his year of 1931 and the headline is Jimmy Londos wrestling 101 times in 1931 is busiest champion and big money maker and now a lot of people are how do we know so much about the the gates and the attendances of these matches back in the depression in the 20s and 30s since wrestling and boxing pro wrestling and pro boxing kind of started in the same era and use the same rings and the same facilities and the athletic commissions back then even the promoters liked giving publicity to the gates they drew because like all the jackpiper posters Brian you've seen a bunch of them the fabulous far goes fresh off drawing a $62,000 house in Madison Square Garden which was legitimate it was reported by the New York State Athletic Commission but the promoters would advertise that in those days they weren't they weren't operating a modern territory in a modern company like it came to be where the guys got paid usually piton says on the houses and they didn't want the guys know how big the houses really were because they'd be even matter about their money it was the opposite the promoters and the commissions in those days they advertised these big crowds and these big figures to show how popular their sport was how popular the champion was what a big deal he was in the sports world and until the 1960s as we mentioned many times wrestlers and boxers were the highest paid professional athletes in the 1950 network television run the only professional athletes in the United States making more money than the top wrestlers were whoever the world heavyweight boxing champion was there was no money yet in foot and pro football or basketball or baseball that's why Ernie Ladd quit and Wahoo quit the football the whole nine yards right so these figures have persisted but it shows you 1931 I don't know that it was the worst year of the depression but it was the second worst I think and here not only because this is the St. Louis newspaper and there was a Missouri Athletic Commission and Sam Muchnick was still was already in the business technically at this time I believe working in Tom Pax's office but they were they were always in with the sports writers in the paper and the athletic commission people and they advertised and promoted wrestling like the other professional sports with these figures so for the people who think well this is all just bullshit that was made up in some old newspaper that is kind of how this stuff takes place but do you would you like to know the subheading Brian and 1931 I don't have my inflation calculator up I should have done that but maybe you can because you're quicker but in 1931 this newspaper article says that records indicate that Lando's cleared for working wrestling 101 times in 1931 cleared 252,500 dollars with his matches attracting gates up to $63,000 now I'm going to say that 1931 to today is 20 to 1 $1 then is $20 today I don't know if you've had a chance to if I go with just the flat number of $252,000 in today's money that's 5,340,000 there you guys about 20 to 1 so that means that the $63,000 gate was actually a $1.2 and a half million dollar gate and this that's country wide but they also have a sidebar with a listing of the seven times that Lando's wrestled in St. Louis and this was at the arena later to become the checker dome this predates the keel auditorium but it says Jimmy Lando says seven appearances in St. Louis in 1931 drew $150,000 $66 and gross receipts from a total of 92,320 spectators according to official figures from the office of commissioner Seneca C. Taylor the chairman of the Missouri athletic commission on February 20 Lando's and race deal drew 10,567 people for $19,774 again 20 grand would now be $400,000 Lando's and Dan O. Shocker on April 8 through 7139 people for 13 grand and change but the rematch three weeks later drew 13,973 people for $35,270 that's 700 grand Lando's versus Carl Pogelo 11,518 people for 12 grand Lando's and Bert Camper in September and November through 8 I'm sorry hold on this copy is so small 18,000 on each match and 23,000 at the gate so that was a sell out of the arena at regular price the O. Shocker rematch must have been elevated prices and then Lando's and Garibaldi does not say which one I bet you was it would have been Leo Gino or Gino yeah drew 12,176 and $22,000 but the point is 92,000 people and those weren't the only seven matches in St. Louis that's just the seven that Lando's appeared on but the gross receipts for those seven was 150 grand which would have been again in today's money $3,000,000 and if he grows 250 grand as you mentioned earlier that's that's more money than most anybody in wrestling today is making adjusted and then I wish the print wasn't so small but this same page has a list of every single match that Lando's wrestled in 1931 with the the opponent the date and the location and I mean I can see the towns in March Richmond Virginia Baltimore Atlanta Georgia Philadelphia Memphis New York Boston Milwaukee Indianapolis Chicago Detroit Cleveland New York New Haven Jersey City Boston Patterson New Jersey and back in Baltimore and that's with no interstates in 1931 in a depression with air travel in its infancy at best this guy was the biggest sports star in the United States of America and even when you talk about ticket prices regular prices versus special prices for a big match those are reasonable compared to the way things are today so it's not even a fair comparison just because of how different how different everything the system is imagine if Lando's had merch imagine of those you know any of the things that they have today you know working a few times a month and making all that money just it's a different animal but cheap ticket prices by and large and again that says these records kept by the post dispatch from reports of press association services may be incomplete due to the fact that reports of some of Lando's matches may have not been filed but granting the total is correct he wrestled an average of twice a week for more than 11 months and if his average pay was only $2500 a match no 2300 a conservative estimate he cleared $252,000 and again there's many times he's wrestling five out of seven days in a week if they can get the trains you know that that he can make it but there was no comparison I would think except who was god damn it I used to know this too who was world boxing champion in 1931 I wonder I'm trying to think was that was that the dim see era they would that would have been his only competition as the most famous professional athlete in the United States of America but with Babe Ruth I would say Babe Ruth has to be on the list the most famous okay Babe Ruth at that point yes and they were match smelling that evil German but Joe Lewis is coming smelling so fuck you but that's the thing that Babe Ruth wasn't making this much money not nearly this much money the wrestlers and the boxers because of the unique status that they had as being a one man team that could travel all over the country that they were only splitting the money up back in those days it was the main event guys as we've seen that made the money and the promoter made a little in the underneath guys just were cannon fodder but the the ability that the boxers and wrestlers had at that point to set their own matches up to make the majority of the money and especially when nobody else in sports was doing anything it just it shows that wrestling was in the place that now football baseball and basketball are in with the highly paid athletes and the incredible crowds it's completely switched in the last hundred years but yeah there's amazing list and it says here that in these hundred and one matches I think I'm trying to read this but it says he's opposed only 38 28 or 38 wrestlers so because those were the top fucking guys right you do the same thing in Milwaukee you could do in Memphis but I can't imagine that that kind of road schedule in those days was in any way conducive to long term health or you know happiness but he was again the big draw for like what was it 13 or 14 years and his he was in the business a lot longer than that but as the undisputed king of the box office and wrestling he had the longest run ever even past Bruno and this I was just this past weekend putting away some of my 1940s California programs and I ran into something that was in a variety of programs the Olympic and Long Beach various towns and it was there this while Jack Feffer was supplying talent their list of world title claimants and this is the end of 1945 and one of them on here is still Jim Landis recognized in Phoenix Arizona as the world champion yes and 14 years was on top what was on top in the in the late 19 teens even though his heyday really didn't start until the late 20s and run through the mid to late 30s but I mean after that he was more there was more of a recognition factor amongst the average person in the United States during the 30s for Jim Landis than there was in the 80s for Hulk Hogan so how long was Hulk Hogan a major name in in the culture after the 80s because of that reputation more people had heard of Jim Landis so even in the 50s he could walk into a newspaper office or make a personal appearance and just by virtue of the fact that everybody had heard that name even if they hadn't seen him wrestle he was a major star for the rest of the time he spent in business anyhow and I love these old newspapers because you can get more legitimate information about a fake business out of the papers of the 20s 30s and 40s then you can today out of the god damn newsletters and news sites because this shit actually was was legitimate documentation put out by the athletic commissions and things were still they tried to make wrestling so legitimate in those days that they did the legitimate things contract signings and various things that other sports and businesses would do and then work the shit amongst themselves behind the scenes but you get great facts and figures and you know details on all of these things that you would never get they had a chance to promote the news papers and so many of the promoters I'll say this now I'll let you have a chance so many of the promoters back then the only way they could promote was with the newspapers because they didn't have there was no television and they didn't have it nobody had it and especially the gulis welch office in Tennessee but a lot of them they got good relationships with the newspapers where they would actually when the newspaper printed a write up on the matches they would give the finish as the office had given it to them well Brian came in with a stick and hit the guy over the head and the referee didn't see it and the fans were upset so next week it's going to be a cage that's the way they promoted so you'd actually wins the last time that a newspaper in the United States of America printed the actual finish of a fucking wrestling match that's why if it now if it wasn't for the the internet and all the smart fans in the newsletters of whatever we wouldn't know what the fuck happened these matches but 100 years ago or even less in the 40s and 50s they were printing the finishes in the in the paper so that the fans would know when they went next week what had happened the previous week if they missed it and again it was a newspaper culture that's why the people like William Randolph Hearst became so powerful everyone read the newspaper yes it that was the thing I mean they might not read it cover to cover and you know me not only am I old but my father was in the newspaper business they wouldn't read it cover to cover but everybody got a paper because some of them only wanted to see the sports kids want to see the comics the women want to see the today's living section the fucking there was something whoever's buying or selling wants to class fights but one way or another a newspaper got into everybody's house and everybody's hands and these guys were on the front pages of it that's why they were the biggest stars in the world and then we have the wrestling business has contracted and become smaller while all of the other businesses and sports that weren't that big of a deal have shot past for a time machine oh did you say you want a time machine hold on uh-oh that's not good that's not a time machine right now won't stop back to you Jim good evening mr. and mrs. American all the ships at sea let's go to press Jim London strangler Lewis will battle for the wrestling championship at Wrigley field and that'll be the first real battle anybody has put up there in several years ask mr. Kamisky and now the weather now that's a cat you got the news from the newspaper and that's what happened and that's why Jimmy Landos is still the biggest drawing in the history of the wrestling business again I'm I know the tickets didn't cost a lot but this is a country of 350 million people now as opposed to what was it 150 million in the 30s no air travel no interstates primitive motor cars and this motherfucker is putting 10 15,000 or more in the ball parks in Boston and New York and Chicago 30,000 to see him wrestle these guys with no television limited radio and newspaper coverage that's a big star just like me I'm a big star too and I'm back Brian we're doing 2026 like it's never been done before does that make any sense I guess it's true actually it's very true but it might not make any sense but we're going to do 2026 like it's never been done before all this year when we have more great shows and witty repartee and amusing banter and pithy conversation are you ready to be pithy with the people in 2026 oh there's going to be a lot of pithiness and we're going to be right back with the drive-thru in a few days and we got a lot of big stories on there to talk about we're still getting caught up that's right if I told it we're going to do three shows this week well we're going to record we'll talk about recording three shows three shows in a one week period to catch up because we had our break but I'm thinking if we did extra shows before the break and we're doing extra shows after the break did we really get a breaker do we just rib ourselves of course folks if you think that we're working really hard to get some money that's always encouraged send money but this is your show where would you like them to send it I've got a I've got a post office box in Louisville if you'd like them and I'll promise I'll send you your half well you're an honest guy that's true as far as you know alright we're done here aren't we are we done here oh certainly yes can we be done here it's 419 in the day so by the time that I wrap this up it'll be 420 folks the experience is over for the first week of January but the drive-through is coming and the experience is coming back and a bunch of people are trying to kill themselves and we're going to watch them do it and joining me is going to be Brian all year except if I don't know you you may have some type of time travel on your own we may have to get a guest host on standby just in case you got to go back in time and pick up Jim Landos's fucking train tickets yeah but nevertheless and now it's 420 okay I'm meandered long enough it's 420 time to get out of here yeah it's time thank you fuck you bye bye everybody yeah