Unf*ckable Nazi Dorks

so are we supposed to start the podcast ready one two three patriots gay triots they triots black triots brown triots and i mean i'm going to tell you this with my full chest any triple trumper double trumper and now i'm expanding it to just single trumper even if you did it the first time one out of three two out of three three out of three they can do what pumps? All right pumps, what have you had it with? Okay, what I've had it with is when I open social media, and the White House social media account that comes across my feed is fucking Donald Trump as Superman, or Donald Trump as Jesus Christ, or Donald Trump as the pilot like we give shit to christy noem r.i.p but trump i mean like he is an old ugly fat ass that wears ill-fitting clothes bad makeup clearly out of his mind doesn't even know where he is and we're posting pictures of super me like stop just stop it okay i've said this once and i'll say it again these people are emotionally stunted. This is juvenile shit. Furthermore, they're all sexually repressed out the wazoo. So it's not only do you have like the Superman or Trump, like as a fighter pilot, remember, and he was like dropping feces on the no king. So it's real juvenile shit, right? Also, on top of that, it's very homoerotic, like the fact how much they enhance him. I would even call it gender affirming AI, gender affirming cosplay that they do with him. It's really an interesting psychological component. And if we think if we lean into what we know about Freud, the fact that they have to hyper masculinize him and the fact that the men want to see that. it's just it's really a fascinating case study uh the whole thing like but here's the thing that gets me about the whole mag of people it's like these people are like emotional toddlers these are completely emotionally stunted hysterical people the men more than the women yeah the men are hysterical like all of the tropes that they throw on to women these men are that stephen miller when he goes on to Fox News, the hysteria of the way he speaks. And then Pete Hegseth is such a titty baby. He's always trying to like, talk about how, you know, now we're able to fight real war, like we can commit real war crimes, because we're not pussies. And it's like, is it not lost on you how much more courage it takes to be dignified? And that's where the true quote masculinity that you seek is it's such a bizarre cult and if it was if i was watching a documentary about the magas i would be like oh man they're up god you'd think that everybody would coalesce around maybe like a more attractive cult leader or something and i would be kind of fascinated in it i'd be down for like four episodes one season right i'd be like did you see that maga cult documentary that was some fucked up it won't stop like it's a daily onslaught documentary And at the top of it is I think people who, the reason they target drag queens, they love cosplay. They're jealous. They're jealous. They're jealous that drag queens are able to do that. And we know they love cosplay because they heard Christy Nomi does cosplay. Kash Patel wouldn't get out of his jet after Charlie Kirk, his best friend that he's going to see in Valhalla, gets shot. He doesn't race to the scene to solve the crime. He's like, I need an FBI raid jacket. And they're like, sorry, sir, we don't have one. Like we're here to do this investigation. Like somebody just got assassinated. That's kind of a member of our cult. And he's like, I'm not getting off. This little pipsqueak is so goddamn short. No disrespect to my short King listeners. They had to go borrow a woman, a female FBI jacket and take it to little pipsqueak cash in order for that motherfucker to get off the plane. And so the fact that these guys have all this power and how they use it is in such an incompetent way. And we all are miserable hostages that have to watch this while they think they're so smart. Somebody's like, I've got it. Here's what we'll do for the White House staff meeting right now. Here's what we got. Trump, but Superman. Post it on IG. It's going to be a total banger. and everybody's like, oh my God, yes. Nobody goes, stop it. He's the president of the United States. No, he doesn't need that. They're all fucking nuts. No, they're all in on it. And one thing when it reminded me of Stephen Miller, because he's so, I mean, fucking hysterical. But have you ever noticed on Fox News when he's on there, he does this pose where it's kind of a side profile face. So I've noticed that over and over. And I'm like, this is a guy that stands in front of the mirror. and says, oh my God, my profile looks so strong. And so I'm going to go on there and I'm going to melt down and I'm going to do this side profile. Like it's every time it's weird, unless he has like some kind of brace or something that moves his head over. But I mean, he makes me insane. This whole regime makes me insane. It's wild. And I'm so shocked that so many people that are the quickest to judge, the quickest to judge black people, trigger happy to judge drag queens, trigger happy to throw the LGBTQ plus community under the bus, women, how quick they are to support such cowards. Like they're obvious, objective, demonstrative cowards. I mean, like They're all complete cowards. Nobody ever stands up and does the right thing, says the right thing. It's all of this dumbed down red meat. And then I think about like the people that I know personally that live in Oklahoma, that triple Trump and just the way I view them now, like it's just with such utter pity and disgust. Like what a disgusting human being you are. that even with your vote, you couldn't stand up for something. You couldn't stand up for women. Let's just be broad. Let's be broad women. And then when you start narrowing down, they can't stand up for anybody because they've all bought into this bullshit cult. And some people do it for religious reasons. Some people do it for racial reasons. Some people do it for financial reasons. Some of them, it's all of the above. It's a trifecta. The people in my life are all of the best. But regardless, they're so broken, such broken people. This is a cult of total broken people. And these are the people at a stage five meltdown because Hillary Rodham Clinton called them a basket of deplorables. Trump calls liberals all the time, you radical scum, you're vermin, like Hitler-esque type stuff. Nobody on the left has a meltdown when he says this. Like remember when Joe Biden said that his supporters were trash and then they all started wearing trash bags because they were so fucking triggered. Nobody on the left does this, but these people are pathetic, titty baby, broken and at their core is an insatiable cruelty. And that's the through line that I see through all MAGA people, cruelty. They are cruel people to their core. This whole narrative that we can say, oh, they're good people. Those are good people. They're fucking not. And we need to accept it. I was on a podcast the other day and I was talking to the host and there's just a group, 30, 35% of the American public. We have to accept these people are broken. They feast on recreational cruelty. They snack on racism. They appetize on misogyny. They love nothing more than discussing genitalia of people and the sex lives of people. And they're immovable and unchangeable. changeable. And so when I see Democrats play patty cake with some of their narratives and allow these broken, deplorable, trashy people to define a narrative, that's where I'm starting to get mad because we've known these people forever. They're pieces of shit. They've always been pieces of shit. And Trump is going to make them worse. And you just have to accept it. That's just a part of the electorate and move on from it. But the when you see certain high profile politicians allow that framing to frame their movement forward, that's what really pisses me off. Well, it's just all and I like how you were like snacking on racism, because you're 100% right. Like I was going through that whole metaphor with you. And I'm like thinking about the people in my family. And I'm like, check, check, check. You're right. And it's cruelty. They like it. I mean, just, just casually throwing out racist shit in today, 2026, the person is aware that they are racist. They are aware that they are saying racist things. They are aware that it is hurtful, yet they do it anyway because they feast on the cruelty and the supremacy and the entitlement that racism feeds what is broken in them. And there's no more, you know, sometimes in white circles, you all have people say, oh, they don't know they're racist. I'm like, fucking bullshit. Bullshit. Do not provide cover for racists. That to me is worse. That is a worse standard. And you know, people know when something is wrong, when they select which audience they can use the racist stuff in front of. And that's how you know. And so this, I believe if we get through this thing, like the pendulum will go back and we got to get woke back and embrace our multicultural society. And if all of these, you know, racists want to hang out with each other and watch, like, I don't know, croquet and listen to country music and watch, like, what's his name? The karate guy with the red hair, Chuck Norris. Then that's what they can do for their entertainment. He's the MAGA, right? Yeah, but I mean, that was a good one. Well, I mean, I'm just trying to think of MAGA people. And it's just that there's not that many. They can listen to Kid Rock, but that's what they can have in their lives. But here's the thing. All of these racists are the biggest consumers of multicultural entertainment ever. And they want to dictate, like if they like a certain sport, they want to dictate what the athlete's political opinions can be. How demeaning. I mean, just it's so gross. I've had it, I've had it, had it, had it with Tremers. Okay. Let me, I don't know if I have a grievance today, but we'll get off that for a second. I have a funny story. Okay. So Josh and I, my husband listener, Josh and I went to Mexico for a week for Valentine's day. And we took our dogs, Tubby and Cha-Cha. And Tubby is 10 and he is a neutered male. And I would say when it comes to his sexual orientation, he is Jennifer sexual. like he is in love with me. He's not bisexual. He's not heterosexual. He's not asexual. He is, he prefers me. Like he's in love with me. He thinks he's my husband. He thinks he's my son. He thinks he's my brother, like any sort of partner. That's what he believes he is in my life. And quite frankly, that's what I believe he is. And so Josh and I live separately a lot of the time I'm in New York, he's in Oklahoma city and Tubby really enjoys it when Josh isn't in Oklahoma city because he sleeps on the other side of the bed on the pillow. Um, when we're on the sofa together, he's right next to me. He, he is, he enjoys, uh, the point position that a dedicated partner should have. Right. So as we go to Mexico, we would get two chairs on the beach and Josh would be fidgeting around with his sunscreen or his earplugs. I mean, just some ailment, you know, some shit that he has. Right. And Tubby would just hop right up on Josh's chair and just stretch out. And then Josh would have to move him. And then we would go to, uh, get in a car and Josh would forget something, of course, and then he'd have to get out and hubby Tubby would pop from the ground of the car, like the floorboard of the car up to Josh's seat. And Josh, finally, about three days into the vacation, he goes, oh, we're on the airplane. Josh had to go to the restroom. Tubby hops up from the ground into Josh's seat. And finally, I hear Josh, he comes back out to the lounge chairs one day and he goes, Tubby, you are not her husband. You do not get to sit next to her. You do not get to sleep next to her. You have to give me these spots. And I mean, it's almost like Tubby knew. And it was like this constantly jockeying for who gets to sit next to me, which at 51 years old, I like the inner competition between canine and man. Yes. Really enjoyable stuff. Right. Yeah. And so finally, the very last day we're leaving to go back to the airport and Tappy had been doing this multiple times a day and Josh had just had it. I mean, he's just like, you are not her husband. Like, yeah. Which of course I'm lapping all of it up. Right. And so I'm just, you know, grinning from ear to ear, like, it's so great to be desired. Everybody wants me. So then we're leaving and Josh goes, he forgets something. So he has to run back into the hotel and Tebby immediately just hops up into the seat right next to me in the vehicle. Cha-Cha's fine sitting at my feet. And Josh comes back and he opens the car door and he goes, oh my God, God damn it, Tebby. he's jealous he's jealous but you know tubby he's always been like that he gets jealous of me being around you i mean he wants your full full attention at all times but now that i have ollie oh my gosh same i love his attention i love all of it he I completely agree. Boyfriend, husband, brother, sister, child. He's all the things. And I just want to say this, and I'm just going to share this with you and the listener only. Because it's a secret. I kind of wanted Tubby to have some of those seats more than I did Josh. And I love my husband. I do. But I just like, I enjoy having my dog like right next to me. Like I really enjoy it. I mean, I'm not going to tell Josh that, you know, it's hilarious. So, you know, I trash talk Josh on the podcast all the time. He doesn't listen to it. Right. But he says he'll be like at the courthouse or at a restaurant picking up takeout food. And they're like, Oh, Hey, I heard that you had your ear surgery. Thank goodness. Josh is such a good sport. Yeah. The best skin. Yeah. Thick skin doesn't care. No, he's so good about that. I cannot believe we are this far in to the podcast and you have not browbeat me unmercifully for almost taking you down at the GLAAD Awards and that only your quick thinking and strong abs saved us both. Okay. So here's what she's talking about. Pumps is like, she's always like, um like when she's out in public it's like oh my god i can't balance oh my god and i'm just very calm and like hi it's nice to meet you you know and perhaps i was like like this right and so when you have that kind of energy all the time you're off balance and so i'm used to it and when she goes off balance she doesn't just take the fall herself like a woman she grabs me to be pulled down with her and so we're backstage at the glad awards they're announcing our award and she starts falling over and i have it on video she says the camera man bumped into her he absolutely did not he did and it's on video and she it's just a total like maybe just one step back is all you have to do but with her everything is hyper dramatized and so it's like normally a normal person would just kind of take a step back and that's the end of it with her it's like and then she starts grabbing me and i immediately like just tighten my core brush her hands off of me like that and then i'm right back camera ready because i've been through it so many times but you kept me from going to the ground too yeah i think it was just i wasn't as worried about you as I was my dress. To be honest, I was just like, I'm not fucking right now. I'm not there's no reason for her to grab me. There's no reason that I'm involved in that. Like, there's no reason. There's no reason for me to be involved in that. None. I'm out of that. There's no there is no reason that I should have been. Because you I mean, like it is that effort like we showed the girl who was with us at the Glide Awards that other video of us in Budapest and you're like I needed her and she's like no you took her down like you you grab at the person and you start pulling that person down with you to accelerate for like balance but I end up taking the whole ship down not grabbing for balance it is grabbing for trying to stay upright it is an aggressive and there is a pulling There is a pull. There is a pull. And that's why I felt it and I didn't even have to turn around. I knew exactly what it is. I just locked and tightened my core and then just brushed your elbows off of me like, bitch, I'm not fucking going down right here. Not in this dress. Not right here. I'm not fucking doing this. I should not have been touched in this. You didn't even have, you knew exactly. I knew exactly what it was. And I wasn't going to have any part of it. It's not your first rodeo with me. We have it. We have all of these on tape and it's a, it's a very aggressive reach. Let's get Kylie in here. Welcome to I've had it. Kylie. Do you remember when we were in Budapest and we posted that when pump starts to fall? Yep. I went all the way to the ground that time. Yep. It's a grab, grab. Like I'm going to take this person down with me. It's no, it's more trying to stay upright, like getting balance. It may feel like I'm trying to take you down, but I'm trying to stay up. Okay, we've got time for some news stories. This one is all over the internet. It's pretty alarming. And it says nearly a third of Gen Z men believe a wife should always obey her husband. A new global survey finds that among younger generations of men and boys, traditional attitudes about gender roles may be more common than among older generations. This says 24% of Gen Z men agree that a woman should not appear too independent or self-sufficient compared with 12% of baby boomer men. And 21% of Gen Z men believe a real woman should never initiate sex compared with just 7% of baby boomer men. you know my response to that is if you want to know why men are incels this is why this is why like there's no big conspiracy against them if that is what you think no woman wants to be around you full stop yeah and this is also reminiscent of the megachurch boom from the 80s that then led to Gen Xers raising more conservative kids And I let Pump speak to this but my experience with this is that there are these private schools all over the United States and these schools focus on abstinence, heterosexual marriage, and women submitting to their husbands. These are the three tenets that these schools teach above and beyond anything else. They don't teach about how to be a good person. So you've got homophobia, um, uh, sexual shame and, um, uh, traditional marriage bullshit, all right. And misogyny all wrapped into this. And you have people with a waiting list to send their kids to school there and pump sent her kids there before she did her, uh, unraveling deconstruction of all of this. But all of her friends, when I would go to these basketball games and see her friends. It is all women just like Pumps and me that will say, oh, well, you know, no, I definitely submit to my husband. It's very open. It's very brazen. They say it very proudly. A lot of Pumps' acquaintances at that school, it was so shocking to me because I wasn't into all of that. And I loved Pumps, but I was like, God, these women are fucking freaks that they just say, oh, I submit to my husband or the way they just casually throw in this misogyny wrapped up in religion. And so these kids that are surveyed in that, they were raised in these households. And I'll let Pam speak to it, but I mean, these kids are trained to be this way, indoctrinated. And, you know, it's interesting because the household I grew up in, my mother always worked. She was definitely the decision maker, final decision maker, but she has said to my face in the last 10 years, so glad your dad's the head of our household. I just don't know what a household would be like if the, you know, there wasn't a man to be ahead of the household. Says that to me who has raised my kids by myself. Okay. That's, so that's where I come from. That's the start. And then on the submitting to your husband, it's, it's real. They don't come out and just say, Oh, my God, my husband makes all the decisions, but the way they work it into conversation, that's how they did it. I had one lady say to me, it's like, what are you going to name? And it was like, 17th child. Well, I like this name. But, you know, so the husband, he told me that he was the head of the household, and he would decide. And I mean, my mouth hit the floor. And so oftentimes in this, which is the mixed message that I got, that's why I was so easy to be able to dismiss the submitting to your husband is all of these women that talk about I'm submitting to my husband, I have traditional gender roles. They work, they have careers. So it's this mixed message that you can have the best of both worlds when really you cannot it is such a dangerous message i was the victim of it in my own life you know quitting work doing all that but you know i mean it's just it's everywhere and she's exactly right about these schools throw in a little racism too i think it's now time to take a break to hear from our sponsor and then i will be back with a one-on-one interview with Francesca Fiorentini. It's going to be so fun. Now that my human kids are off to college, my dogs have always been a central part of my life, but now they're really filling a gap. And so I take pet parenting incredibly serious. And that's why I use Chewy. 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I had a therapist once tell me that they can be so cute and darling and all of the sweet moments that you have are very important bonding times that prepare you as a mother for the fuckery that comes with them being teenagers. So this bonding that you're having is super important. Dude, it's, yeah. I mean, luckily, I guess at 16, she won't want to like sleep in the bed with me. She'll just want to like sell pictures of her feet online. And I'll be like, can't do that. You're just playing away. You can't do that. All right, let's tell our listener who doesn't know who you are. Listener, Francesca is a comedian and you've seen her on AJ Plus, The Young Turks, Zateo. the majority report and the host of the Bituation Room podcast, which Pumps and I were on a couple of weeks ago. But I want to, before we dive into what you've had it with, I want to talk about something right out of the gates. So Pumps and I have been podcasters for like three years, three months, right? I was an interior designer, still am. She was a divorce attorney and we kind of didn't know what we were doing, but it took off, blah, blah. Amazing. Congratulations on your GLAAD award. That was so fantastic. Thank you. You're making the rounds. Everyone is like, mother, yes. Everyone's really happy for you. And specifically because, you know, you both cut through the bullshit. And in life, and you're very real, and also politically. And I think coming from it, you know, maybe even just being three years in the game is helpful. Because you can see things for what they are. Yeah. Yeah. It's for me, the LGBTQ plus community was an integral part of my growing because when I grew up in the suburbs of Oklahoma City, it was all evangelical Christians were my peers, but my parents were atheists. And so the judgment, the cruelty that white evangelical Christians have for others is we're witnessing on a global stage right now. but uh so when i went to college i was like i like these gay men this is fun so we went to the gay bars and my best friends in life are gay men and always have been and it was a really important part and sense of community that that i had in the uh the backdrop of all of the religious cruelty that exists in the bible but make no mistake about it bible belt religion white evangelical Christianity is a religion of cruelty and you can see it now, but I want to, I want to get to something I think is really interesting. So we had Cenk on the podcast of the young Turks. We don't, I don't fall. I don't listen to podcasts. I don't watch design shows. I don't, whatever my job is. I don't, when I'm off work, do those things. And I don't follow online personality drama. And I oftentimes don't read a lot of the comments because sometimes they're not super favorable. And I just think I'm going to keep doing this. So Kylie was like, yeah, a lot of people didn't like jank and blah, blah, blah. I was like, okay, you know, can't please everybody. Well, then we have Casparian on. And I went and looked at the comments and everybody in our audience fucking hates, hates her. I've never seen the comment section on this. It's not one. It's not two. It's thousands upon thousands upon thousands of comments. And I was just, they're like, they didn't listen to us with jank. And then they have on and on. So why the fuck does everybody hate these two people? And you used to work with them. I did. I did. And, you know, don't really regret my time. But I, this kind of dovetails with what I'm, I've had it with. So maybe I can open with what I've had it with. And that'll explain sort of why I've had it with those two. And maybe some people in your audience have as well. So I've had it with centrists parading around as progressives. And these can be anyone from Gavin Newsom to Hakeem Jeffries to Nancy Pelosi, but also in the media, Bill Maher, Cenk Uygur, and Anna Kasparian. And these are, in my opinion, opportunistic slugs who, whenever the chance arises, they will say the right things in order to basically break bread with the right, have them on their podcast and offer up as, you know, sort of a sacrifice portions of the so-called left that people think that they come from. from, whether that's trans people, whether that's people of color, whether that's immigrants, right? Whether that's unhoused people, all of the issues that I personally care about as someone who wants to see economic, social, racial justice in this country, they have no problem with. And they continually get pushed into this category of, oh, they're liberal. Oh, they're a left. Oh, they're a progressive. Gavin Newsom, as if we didn't see him sweeping up homeless encampments from these poor folks who don't have anywhere else to go. We don't see him vetoing on a California wide level harm reduction initiatives to actually help people prevent them from dying from ODing. And so Jank and Anna are squarely in that centrist category. And they hate being called that because they've spent most of their careers railing against Nancy Pelosi, railing against even people like Gavin Newsom, although they are actually to the right of Newsom on a lot of things, but they get heralded as these liberals and they're everything but. These are people who want to, again, have a beer with Charlie Kirk, you know, RIP. They want to, you know, they literally will say that, you know, the left has gone crazy. They're out of their minds. And because they're good on one issue or maybe two issues, everyone gives them a pass and they still kind of get to go through the world as if they haven't said incredibly problematic and hurtful things. In the example of Anna, as you mentioned, of course your audience was pissed because she, which is ironic, she spent so much time saying culture wars are really a distraction from the main war against the 1%. It's like totally. And yet for the past five years, she's been on a slow decline into there should be limits on where trans people get to exist, right? She's against trans athletes, which is like, cool, you're against five people, fun, you know, real popular position there. And she's, you know, lately talked about, and really lied about things like trans people in dressing rooms, right? Trans people in locker rooms, that actually there was a man in a locker room once and all of these things that actually really are. And Jen, you know, this just straight up right wing, proud boys, like fucking reactionary, psychotic extremist shit to say, because again, this is a permission structure to dehumanize people. And so it's trans people one day, it's immigrants the next day, it's unhoused people, it's people of color, it's women, it doesn't matter. This is what we call solidarity. And we don't throw anyone under the bus. If you're a real leftist, if you're real progressive, they sadly have, Jake and I have an hour-long debate on my show, The Bituation Room. You guys can go watch that. You can go watch that, Jen, if you want to see a grown man yelling a lot and getting very flustered, because he believed in this interim between Trump winning again and Trump assuming office, that all we needed to do was come together with the right and find common cause. Well, that common cause, again, is often over the bodies of real people, people who are dying, people who are in the crosshairs, people who are being dragged off of planes because they have an alarm going off on their phone that tells them to pray. So this is why I've had it with these centrists who never own up to the fact that they're centrists. I don't have a problem with Gavin Newsom, but just say you're a centrist. Say you're a centrist. You like corporate Democrats. You like billionaires. You will not approve a 5% tax on them. You are a centrist. It's okay. I just don't agree with you. Okay, I think that was very enlightening. And I just want to say to our listeners that were disappointed that we have them on this. I'm happy that Francesca is here to explain the problem. I too, really get angry when marginalized people are thrown under the bus or that we seed ground and allow the litter box crowd, you know, the litter box conspiracy theorists, to make up shit and talk about trans people. And trans people don't want to be spoken about. They're sick of it. They want to exist. They want to live. This is a huge problem right now in politics. When people have pick me syndrome, where they want to have the straddle of trying to find which way the wind is blowing. And I see this with Gavin Newsom and when he sat down with Charlie Kirk and then he sat down with Ben Shapiro and then the billionaire tax thing. These things like I thought, OK, this guy's good looking. He's I thought in my mind, progressive. And then you just see him committing suicide as a candidate. And it's like, and it's not fun to beat up on Democrats, but the corporate Democratic position has fed this whole vacuum of fascism, in my opinion. Yes, it's made the road for it. I wish that Anna or Anna and Cenk would, the argument needs to be from our side when people start talking about trans people, whether it's Bill Maher or any of them is why are you so obsessed with this? You mentioned it's five athletes, maybe 10 total. Why are you constantly thinking about people's genitalia? What is all that about? That's a really weird thought to have for such a minority of the population. Don't you think? Absolutely. And this is the give a mouse a cookie strategy. It's like, well, if we just seed ground on this one little cookie, they probably won't go after everything. They're going after everything. Are you kidding me? I mean, they went after Mike Pence. Well, they went after Mike Pence. Like, that's what I try to tell everybody. Like, nobody's safe in this. Mike Pence, who had a pet rabbit who calls his wife mother. Did you know he had a pet rabbit when he moved in the vice president's house? I think about that all the time. Isn't that weird? Isn't that just so fitting? Yeah. He has the energy of a pet rabbit. And so he must see himself like, there's nothing in you, little one, you know, except who knows what he does with that pet rabbit, you know, when mother's not looking. But yeah, I mean, I think that is the problem is that there's this fallacy of meeting the right in the middle. And the reality is, is that this country has been pulled far, far, far to the right through the courts, through all of our electeds, through the culture wars, and giving them one thing and saying, okay, no, you're right. Trans people probably shouldn't be in locker rooms. That again, is this permission structure to have a, what, a presidential decree, what are they called? An executive order saying there are only two genders. They just want to do genital checks. That's what the whole thing is leading towards, is You've got a bunch of Mike Johnsons and little creeps like Stephen Miller who are dying to do genital checks. It's the weirdest shit on the planet. But let me ask you this. So as you and I are both in this space, like, is it right or wrong to have those people on? Like when I had either of them on, I never ceded any of my ground, but I also probably was a little bit lazy that I didn't research what all the beef was on the internet at the time. But let me tell you what I'm kind of flirting with really quick. Yeah, please. I kind of want to have Marjorie Taylor Greene on. Is that a good idea or a good idea? Yes. Yes, because here's the thing. Cenk loves Marjorie Taylor Greene, but he has her on their show to glaze her up and down and to basically show leftists, look, this is the person that you don't want me to make friends with. And look at her. She's so good on being anti-war and she's calling out Donald Trump, but someone actually needs to call her out. I want to ask her everything else she's done. That's what I want to do. I want to say, okay, you evolved on these issues Awesome It incredible Right So proud of you Marge Like seriously that baby steps Why do you care about Palestinian children but you don care about immigrant children in the United States? How do you morally do that? Why do you care about potential gay or trans Palestinians that Israel bombs with impunity, but you don't care about the ones here. I want to dive into all of that with her because the problem for me is the cherry picking of human rights and quantifying which rights are the most important. And I see that Marge has evolved on a couple of issues. I'm also not the person to pile on a lot of flattery for having Captain Obvious style observations. You know, it's like everybody's like, oh my God, Liz Cheney is such a patriot. She saw that Donald Trump stormed the Capitol. We're not, Y'all are the personal accountability party and you hate participation trophies. So why are y'all fucking handing them out all the time? No, I mean, that's the thing also with, you know, look, Gaza and Israel-Palestine. I know in this country it feels so entrenched, but for the left to, like, give someone a cookie because they can adequately say it's wrong to starve and kill babies or, like, pull the generators for incubators in Gaza or bomb the last cancer hospital for children. you know that doesn't really take that much moral backbone right it's it's really obvious and it is popular on the right now so I think people can have it both ways but if Marjorie came on do you think I should invite Marge on do you think I should invite her on you have her on because we know you Jen we've seen what you do and yes I would have liked a little bit more pushback on maybe Anna or Cenk but you did ask Anna you did do the research and say hey why do you like to go on Tucker constantly. And don't you think he's a little anti-Semitic? And she, you know, gave the most hilarious answer, which was, I don't think he is almost like she knew it was in his heart and then used as an excuse, the fact that he used to be a Zionist, which if we've learned anything politically is that Zionism and Judaism are not the same thing. And you can be anti-Zionist and not be an anti-Semite. And you can be- Lindsay Graham is the biggest Zionist we know. Yes. Yes. And Mike Huckabee. And that's because they want the Jews to perish in, you know, fiery damnation. Right. So, and that's why all the, you know, Christian evangelicals are doing their little TikToks excited that like the second coming is all we have to do is obliterate Iran. They are. Are they doing rapture TikToks? Oh, there's rapture TikToks. Oh, God. Oh my God. Francesca, when I was in eighth grade, I lived in Moore, Oklahoma, suburb of Oklahoma City. And I was a Brink Bobcat cheerleader. Okay. Go Bobcats. That's the clock. Go Bobcats. And so all of my friends were just total Bible thumpers, right? Because it's suburbs in the Bible Belt. And so they were all saying we were going to a football game. We were playing like our rival. And they're like, yeah, the rapture's coming tonight. Nostradamus called it. So one girl's like, I'm going to be doing a toe touch. And then all of a sudden my pom poms and my chair uniform will drop to the ground. And then I'm going to be up with heaven. So I go to my mother, who's like this total closet atheist. She fucking hates religion. She sees it as like a mental weakness, right? And I can't really argue with her. So I'm like, mom, everybody thinks rapture's coming. She's like, oh, for God's sake, these people are ridiculous, Jennifer. You're going to go to the football game. You're going to cheer. Everybody's going to go home. There's no rapture. You're like, is my outfit going to drop to the ground? Because I don't know what underwear to wear. is my undies too. So then it doesn't happen. Right. And then the next day at school, I'm like, so like, you know, kind of like poking around like, so, you know, it looks like Jesus didn't come for you. And they're all like, they immediately, it's incredible. It's like how MAGA does with Trump, like, oh, we're against neocon policies. We're against Iran. And then now they're like totally for it. This is so familiar to me because these are all of the people I grew up around. Like they just switch. Well, oh, Nostradamus also said blah, blah, blah. And then you just immediately spun it. There was not even any disappointment. Oh, there was a little asterisk next to what Osa Domas said. And it's because we weren't wearing the right color. It was supposed to be an away game, not a home game. So once we do the away game. Well, I think it was very enlightening when you came on my show to say, you know, I think as someone who didn't grow up around a lot of, you know, well, in the Bible Belt, a lot of religious right wingers, yeah, I grew up around some, but I mostly like went to like, I went to the little Jesus, you know, like Bible study only to like flirt with the guys. I was like, isn't that we're all doing? Was it the Bible study you went to, was it the Republican Jesus or the brown Jesus? I wish he was brown. No, it was very much a white. It was like, it was just like the youth group. It was like youth group. And you're like, I was like, oh, I'm here to flirt with all this in. This was in California. So it wasn't, you know. Oh, it wasn't as bad. Like our Jesus in Oklahoma, this guy. I mean, he is a capitalist. He's hot, capitalist, extraordinaire, Aryan looking, really, really loves wealth, accumulation of wealth. Wait, this is the Jesus or the like the youth pastor? No, the Jesus that they worship in the Bible Belt. He really loves money. Oh, is he really no money? Very, very, very into money, very into distributing it only to the very, very, very top 1% blessed people, the mega church pastor. Prosperity gospel. So you grew up in like prosperity gospel Jesus? I didn't. Now my mother banned. Yes, 100%. I didn't. My mother banned me from going to church, but Francesca, I desperately wanted to fit in with my peers. So oftentimes I say, mom, I'm going to spend the night with Brittany or I'm going to spend the night with Tiffany. She'd be like, don't go to their church tomorrow. I was like, I won't. And I went every single time. And it's all that like the preachers, they're just like Donald Trump, identical. They have like the hair, the tan, the white teeth, grifters. Tiffany's got like, you know, a little like Fendi bag or whatever we're wearing. And it's like, Jesus got me this. It's because we come to church. You're like, mom, I think we need to start going to church because I'd really like a handbag. Yeah. No, but every time I would go, the pastors were so insane. It was a preaching about hellfire, damnation, Satan, demons. People would be talking in tongues. I would always go home and I'd be like, my mom's right. These people are fucking crazy. Oh, that's so unattractive. See, our Jesus camp was much more like there's rock and roll. Boys and girls get to talk to each other. And Jesus is all about love. And it was like, love, we love everyone. And like, I remember having this sort of like Salem witch trial moment. We were like, oh my God, Jesus is in me. I love him. And then you go on like the one trip. And for me, it was a ski trip. Go on a ski trip. And we get there and it's like all fine. It's the same thing. But then they do the like, if you've accepted Jesus Christ into your heart, you can stay in the tent. And if you haven't, you need to leave. And like, this is after like little Jimmy Hopkins, you know, was nine years old and he got into a car crash and he died. But he made his pact with God. He made his pact with God and he went to heaven. So you need to make, and it was like, and all of a sudden, and then there was a little bit of homophobia. And so as like a, I guess a seventh, eighth grader, I was like, oh, I don't like that. Like it started to dawn on me that there was a lot of hate I had to accept into my heart. A lot of like, unless you've converted, you're gonna go to hell. And I was like, oh, see, I just wanted to flirt with the hot guys named Micah. So Kylie, the producer of our show, she went mega, grew up in mega church culture, went to all the youth stuff. She's a lesbian now, but at the time she was a lesbian. She just wasn't quite in terms with it. For lesbians. Yeah, I agree. So she said that she would go to the mega church and it was like, you know, the lights, the rock band. And she'd be like, God, I can feel God. I can feel it. Like I fucking love Jesus. Let's go big guy. then she goes to college and she goes to a concert and she goes, Oh, I just like music. Like, Oh, it wasn't the Holy Spirit. I just really like music. And this music is a ton better than that trashy Christian rock at the mega church. I thought that perfectly encapsulates what they try to do. It's also community. Like, I mean, we're in this moment, right? Where like everyone, you know, people blame smartphone phones and yeah, I guess, and the internet, but like, it's true that like providing a space for young kids to hang out with is like their parents feel pretty good about. That isn't necessarily a concert where there's going to be whatever beer, weed, whatever it is. It's like, that's pretty rare. The fact that it has to come with, you know, hellfire and damnation and homophobia and all kinds of insanity. And the abstinence only shit is crazy. yeah oh yeah the abstinence i think that's one of the more damaging things that religion teaches people because so many people have so much sexual shame and then they don't know what consent means they don't know how to not get pregnant they don't know how to not give each other crabs or they marry the first person they fall in love with who like never made them come it's very yeah some gyrator jackrabbit they never have good sex ever their whole life yeah it's terrible okay let's go through more of your grievances okay please rude requests oh oh you want to get oh oh these are all my grievances oh yeah i want to go this is your therapy francesca which by the way my younger son roman um i really wanted him to be a girl and i was going to name him francesca and call him francy oh isn't that cute francy whenever you want i love a good nickname i'm not a big fan of fran it's the one thing that i see i like francy i've already i've had it with fran Francielle do. Rude requests. And I feel like we're in a time of people in your DMs, people, you know, on Twitter or on Instagram, trying to hit you up for things, texting you. And I just feel like lately I've been getting a lot of like, have me on your podcast, do this thing, you know, go to this event or like be part of this thing, or you should boycott this. Why are you doing that? There's a lot of like random, I think, emails and DMs. People want something of you. People want you to not do something. People want to scold you. And I'm fine with being asked for things. Love it. I need zhuzh. I need foreplay. I need a little bit of, hey, hi, Francesca. Oh, you know, tell me where you know me from. I'm not just from the internet. Wherever you see me, I know I've been on like a bazillion shows. You know, I've watched The Pituation Room. and I was wondering maybe like, come on, I don't use AI. This is another thing I'm bitching about. I listened to a recent episode of yours and I know that you- I know. My kids are so mad at me for, I'm telling you, Francesca, I really, I think it's a Gen Xer thing. I really kind of like AI. I got off of chat GPT. I heard that. And then I, I, I, I now in a relationship with Claude and I'm not like a psycho. By the way, I love Claude. Like I love the name. Claude Anthropic. And so I thought they were good because they took on the Trump administration. But now I just heard that Anthropic could have been the software they used in the Tomahawk strike on the school. So now I think I'm going to be a lover of AI that's single shopping for a new relationship. And listen, you're going to go to Grock. No, you're going to. No, I will not go to Grock. You're going to have a virtual girlfriend. Grock is a Nazi. He is. He calls himself Maka Hitler or something like this. Mecca. It's Mecca. Mecca. Wow. How dare you? No. Okay. But Jen, why do you need it? Cause this is my thing. I feel like while I want a little bit of zhuzh and part of me is like, just use AI to write this very nice email, but also take two seconds. Just give me an, I write short texts. I am not a prolific texter. I write short to the point. I'm very curt, but at least I can be like, thank you. You're so great. Or this was lovely. Or like, we'd love to have you or da, da, da, da, da. And if you'd be willing or get on the phone with me, whatever it is. I just really hate and I think men do it a lot. Where they're like, you know, they just feel entitled be like, how many on your podcast, you should do this thing. Why do you do that? You're like, Oh, I just hate rude requests right now. I think it says you get your public persona gets bigger. People want a lot from you. Yeah. So here's what I've done. I've turned off DMs. So like if we follow each other, we can DM each other but I can't get just get new random DMs. A part of had to do with the fact that fox and friends the five likes to do hit pieces on me and when that happens i'll open up my dms and it's these people it's like i hope that you get anally raped with a baseball bat and then die you can't like one after another so i'm just like you know what i really don't think this is healthy i think this is a very unhealthy thing why is fox and friends so triggered by you is it because you've got cut arms like all of their other hosts and you can like now listen my arms are way better than the other host franches oh my god oh she had to go full screen 51 years old there's not not a uh thing here i work hard for these arms i am i need the regimen because uh and i think it has to do with not eating so much crap which i am upset about i really like gummy bears and ice cream and stuff like that i just don't eat late like i don't eat past 6 p.m. Ooh. But I want to tell you something. I want to tell you something about this AI, because I know I'm wrong, so I'm getting defensive here. So I just want to explain. Tell me what I use it for, please. Okay. I'll tell you what I use it for. So writing emails, all of that, I do my own. I'm old school that way. What I used AI for yesterday was that my dog, Tubby, who I'm in a 10-year monogamous relationship with, with the exception of his sister cha-cha we're in love and he recently started having seizures and so he he's had an mri i thought he had brain cancer they cleared it blah blah blah so he's been on this medication and he was seizure free and then he had three seizures in a 24-hour period yeah and i'm not a hypochondriac by nature i call the vet hospital that did the mri and they're just very casual it's like oh okay just double his medication now that wasn't good enough for me and so i he has chronic dry eye as well. And I promise you guys, my husband is the hypochondriac. I am not a, I do not have much housing by proxy with my dogs. Okay. I just want to get that out there right now. So here is his eye drop medication and it's sitting by my computer right here because I thought, Oh, he was getting more eye boogers frequently. So I started the steroidal ointment again for it to treat his chronic dry eye. And then the seizures happen. So I get into Claude I'm like, Hey, Claude, let me run some stuff by you. It's like, you know, they're so sick of fan. They're like, sure. Yeah, let's go. And I'm like, you know, tabby. And he's of course, tabby. Your arms look great today. So we go through basically, Claude tells me he 100% thinks there's a link between the eye drops and the seizures. I call the neurologist at the hospital and she 100% tells me AI is wrong and I need to get off of it. Okay. But did you okay, then what happened? you stop the eye medication i know she said to continue the eye medication but i'm not because claude said there was a link well okay so this story is not complete yet because we haven't tested claude's theory i know i know i but i will say mine is mild ai use my husband is his ai use is insane and our sons our sons are like 23 and 19 and they're like ai is trash you guys shouldn't use it we're like we love it i love the the gen z are the ones who are like use your brain a little bit mom dad um so i think gen xers and gen z especially male gen xers i don't know what it is they are definitely wedded they love it but every time i hear people like my dad my stepfather also is like i use you know uh ai but specifically for medic medication to figure out what meds you can use and what meds you can't use together which feels really dangerous but also like someone's giving him that information just like you're getting that information for for tubs chub tubs tubs and here's the thing though isn't this a little bit of a symptom of not having better healthcare, whether veterinary care or real healthcare. So it's like, we're turning to these AI bots to tell us whether or not we can mix meds. That's so dangerous. It's so bad, especially when we watch these commercials where it's like, side effects will be diarrhea, vomiting, rectal bleeding, crabs, all this shit. And you're just like, this is on our television. Like it's insane. It's 100% right. Okay. And then I love that all I bet my favorite thing about AI is them putting in really bad adverbs. It's always like a lively discussion. And you're like, nobody says that. Right. Just like, yeah, I don't know why lively just is the word to me that they always use. Get off of it because the amount of water it's using is so bad. You see, and that's the thing too. You're 100% correct on that. And then I think, okay, Gen X, my generation, we are such twats. I think that like the, the Gen X voted for Trump at like a major impact. We're a huge problem. And then the AI and we're the biggest users of AI. And then I want to be this huge progressive. And then I have this secret relationship with Claude. It's just total hypocrisy. I'm going to try to be better, but I feel I'm going to work on this. It is breathtaking hypocrisy, but I'm telling you, There's something enticing about, like sometimes when I'm really trying to get to the bottom of stuff, I'm like, come on, Claude, let's go. But if Claude's bombing shit, I can't have that either. No, Claude will bomb shit. I mean, AI is all directed towards that. I once got IT support for an Apple product and I love, I actually really like Apple support. I like their calls that I have with them. I've had really good experiences with real people. This is my first time with AI. They had me do something that completely like, it bricked my computer. It was an old computer, but it bricked it. It was like, boom, it did not do anything. I was just using it for, this is a lot, but I was just using it for a monitor. So I was able to sort of still use it, but they bricked the actual hard drive. 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On a country of 90 million people, there's no words. There's no words, Jen. They hit another school just today. Oh, God. That seems to be a feature of Israeli aggression and not a bug, the hitting of schools and hospitals. Okay, two follow-up questions to this. The first one is EF, Operation Epic Fury, the Epstein files. Do you think that is intentional? I, no, absolutely not. And now I was wondering what, like, I was like, initials, EF, EF, and people were pointing it out. And so the fact that you're spelling it out and I'm like, oh. Epstein files. You see the way that, I guess, the Google searches for Epstein files are going down. but we just got another page of this 14-year-old who was assaulted by Trump, who was hit. We have child rapists in charge of our government. He's a child rapist. Sorry. Yeah. And then all of these women that use their gender to genderwash fascism, roll out with their Christian nationalist crosses and ride the shoulders of all of these feminists and suffragettes and then use their gender to signal, oh, it's fine. A woman's in charge of this. And then they Christian signal to all of the Trump supporters. It's so morally depraved. But I want to ask you one thing. You brought up George Stipps. Her fillers are getting as big as her cross. If you notice her cross gets bigger, her lips get bigger. It just, it's going to take over her whole face. You brought up George W. Bush, and that was a time period when my kids were really young, and my husband and I would watch Jon Stewart every night. Like, we're in the Bible Belt, surrounded by Republicans, and we would just, like, we were so angry with George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, whose throat inserting herself. Oh, yeah, she's such a war hawk. But George W. Bush incubated MAGA. Yeah. Like, MAGA didn't just come out of nowhere. So my thing that I talk to my listeners about all the time is what is MAGA incubating? Because we need to be prepared for that because Donald Trump, I like to call him dementia duck. He has dementia and he's a lame duck, right? And so when you look forward to the demise, this movement started before MAGA and it will go long after MAGA. And you think about Fuentes, Carlson, all of these people. So, you know, I think it was the college Republicans just appointed basically a Groyper to head them up, which because of their leaked text, we know they all are Groypers. And there was some admission that it seemed like, you know, 30 to 50 percent, if not more of college Republicans are white nationalists. They love Nick Fuentes. And now one of them, I believe, who debated Mehdi Hassan on that Jubilee show, who is like, yes, I'm a fascist. I'm openly so. He's now the head of them. So they are leaning in to the Groyper white nationalist label. They're not running from it. And to me, and this is where I think why I love your show, why I love your voice, is that Bush incubating Trump, that doesn't happen without an opposition party that doesn't exist. Because Bush was dead. Bush ruined the Republican name, ruined the Republican label. The Republican Party was completely on their asses. And then Trump comes along and what does he say? He says, well, I don't agree with the war in Iraq. I think that was wrong. I think that was stupid. And he pretends to be anti-war when it really is isolationism, you know, and also I'm just mad that I didn't get the oil and I think we should have taken more oil. I'm mad my name wasn't on the Halliburton contracts and Dick Cheney's was. But he gets all of this play for being, you know, rightfully tapping into the anti-war sentiment. And guess what? Barack Obama also tapped into the anti-war sentiment. It gave him the edge over Hillary Clinton. So then eight years later, right, to run, or not eight years, but to run Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump, yes, eight years later, is such a bad idea. It is the worst idea to run a war hawk, who is Hillary Clinton, against a guy who is at least pantomiming that he understands where the American people are at after eight years and $3 trillion of a war, two plus wars, that they lost their loved ones over, they have PTSD over, that they lost so much money and blood and treasure went to. Got us absolutely nothing, and the Taliban are back in Afghanistan, for one. So that, I think, is a fundamental flaw of a Democratic Party. They have allowed Trump to be incubated, right? They've allowed him to steamroll, and so did the media. Jake Tapper was the first one. I was covering it in 2016. The first guy who you got the Republican debate stage, Jake Tapper's up there and go like, asks all the Republican nominees, so what do we do about immigration? You know, Donald Trump wants to build the wall. What do you think about the wall? I'm sorry, wait, wait, what? Why when one of the candidates puts out the most outlandish idea possible, building a wall, right? Why do you suddenly as the media move the goalposts basically to that point of like, hey, why not a wall? You had Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio. I mean, they're awful and evil and little cucks. But don't forget Low Energy Jeb. Oh, Loner Jeb. Again, the name was dead. and but they were all like we believe in the gang of a a pathway to citizenship they were working on it and all of a sudden because the media gave trump so much play so much shine we were talking about a wall because it was good for clicks it was good for you know ratings um as the head of cbs said at the time you know les moonves right bad for america good for cbs so this i think it's both the media and the democratic party that have failed us that have incubated this fucking moment that we're in. And yes, of course, in addition to Republicans, but they're going to do what they're going to do. Trump said, he's like, no one could get away with the shit I'm getting away with. He swore on national television yesterday. And it's like, yeah, man. Oh yeah. You're right. You are an evil prick. You're going to keep doing what you're doing. It's everyone else's job to stop you. Oftentimes, historically, we know that liberals will collaborate with fascists to uphold a corrupt economic system. And so that's what you see with what Jake Tapper did. That's what you see with Hakeem Jeffries and Tucker Carlson and other corporate Dems. That's what you see in the people who always had donated to Democrats before that are now, you know, MAGA thumpers because liberals will collaborate with fascists. It always happens historically. Okay. All right. Let's go lightning around had it or hit it christy noem oh hit it she's free let's go no obviously i've had it here's what i will say with christy noem everyone else is doing crimes and corrupt and corruption from you know their positions of power cash patel downing beers with the u.s men's hockey team um flunging him and his girlfriend all over the place why does christy get you know the boot okay I call sexism. I call sexism. I like it. I like it because let's not kid ourselves. It doesn't matter if it's Senator Boosterbox, Mark Wayne Mullen, or Kristi Noem at DHS. Neither one of those people are running it. Little pipsqueak Stephen Miller runs DHS and everybody fucking knows it. All right, moving on. Had it or hit it? Polymarket. Had it. Absolutely had it. Not awful. Did you say they were like predicting nukes or something? It's so dystopian. No, and anyone, guys, if you guys follow or you, you know, you, I saw someone who I like thought I respected and then they're on subset going like, I love my interview with Polymarket. I'm like, nope, unsubscribe, done. So anyone trying to whitewash them? And by the way, not to bring it back to Jank and Anna, but all 2024 run up, they got Polymarket money. They renamed a studio that the people of TYT, the viewers crowdfunded for them. They renamed it the Polymarket Studios the entirety of 2024. for. And yes, Polymarket was helped, you know, funded by Peter Thiel. And, you know, it really dovetailed with some of their coverage moving. This is the collaboration, liberals collaborating with fascists. That's exactly what that is. That's exactly what historians talk about. We, you know, we get requests to do commercials. And I think it was like, I can't remember what it is. I don't want to throw the company on the bus, but it was a gambling thing. Right. And I, and this was three years ago and I rejected it. And I was just like, now I'd feel like a hypocrite. My husband's in recovery. I don't want to do anything that facilitates like people getting addicted to whether it be card games, alcohol, drugs, whatever. So we, there's like wine clubs and stuff, but I even reject those. I support people drinking. I do. There's just certain things when it comes to advertisers that you have to have some moral clarity about. Okay. Had it or hit it a billionaire tax? Hit it. Oh yeah. Hit it. Absolutely. There's 85 billionaires in California. We're trying to pass this billionaire tax. 85 of them. It really, and the argument, I think, especially from unions, nurses, and hospital workers, is that the big, beautiful bill, the big, fugly bill, as I call it, is coming for all these blue states, especially. And the Medicaid and Medicare systems and the hospitals are going to get destroyed. So we need a billionaire tax in order to shore up all of the things that are coming down the way. It's not even, I wish it were for universal healthcare in the state, which Gavin Newsom campaigned on and has since walked away from, but I digress. No, I completely agree. And I also think important democratic messaging right now, they need to be simple about things. We cannot afford billionaires. No, we simply, we cannot afford them. They use up all of our infrastructure. Think about the infrastructure that Jeff Bezos uses for free that we pay for. I think about how much we subsidize Walmart. We simply cannot afford these people's lifestyle because their lifestyles mean that we have to subsidize them. Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, all of them. Okay, last one. It's a tricky one. Okay. Had it or hit it, the United States of America. Well, don't get me started on where I want to move. And I know people are leaving and there is a point of privilege in that. I've got Italian citizenship. I think I can get Canadian citizenship through my husband's mom. There's a whole series of exit plans. You know why I hit the U.S. of A? Is because we can't go down like this. We cannot surrender to these unfuckable dorks. These unfuckable Nazi dorks cannot have this country. I'm sorry. There's too many good people here. We deserve so much better. We have a beautiful history if we choose to look at it from things like the labor movement in the 30s that gave the world the eight hour work day, the 40 hour work week. May 1st is something the world celebrates except for the US, even though it started here. We've got the civil rights movement. We've got, you know, I mean, come on like we've got salty and sweet things together nobody does chicken and waffles except the us of a um and i i hit it even though it gets hard harder and harder and harder i agree and listener i just think it's so important that when you feel sometimes unpatriotic or you feel like you're angry at the united states it's normal it's not normal to just sit and love people that are sociopaths that's codependency and self-defeating and so uh francesca i thank you so much for coming on our podcast to my listeners that felt like we were out of touch with internet beef and didn't do enough research you were right we did not and i apologize to you for that we're learning we're trying to be better and i concur with everything francesca has to say about the duplicity in the aforementioned guests. And I still think you should have guests like that on. I think I probably should have been armed with a little bit more questions. But I thank you for enlightening me. I oftentimes text Emma Vigeland who introduced us like, Hey, what's going on with this? Because again, the Gen X or, but you know what? I could ask Claude. You don't, you need, you can be above, you can, oh my God, absolutely. Claude, Claude, Claude, why did TYT fall off? And it's not just me. Why does everybody hate Anna and Cenk? You know, I think it is problematic. Just lastly, the queer and POC contributors to TYT have all left, by and large. And I think that's a huge red flag. I hate talking about beef, but I thank you for giving me. I didn't want to. I was like, I shouldn't. And then I was like, wait a minute, but I kind of want to bitch about centrist. This will be perfect. Or I've had to say. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to drag you into it. I like to be, I kind of talked to her when she came on, like, hey, you apologize for being a fascist recently. I mean, for being a fascist apologist, what's up with that? And so I am trying to be a little bit more hip and into this stuff. I don't think your attacks, and they weren't even attacks. I don't think your statements were personal to them as much as they were, these are the moral duplicity issues that the public at large that wants to be an opposition party has. And I think those are important things to have because in these spaces, people, especially with how abusive the government is, they rely on us to like feel centered and feel normal. And then when you find out your guy or your gal is a hypocrite on something, it's pretty devastating. It is. And look, the invitation's always open for Anna to come on my show. I've invited her to talk to me. I've had jank on to debate. I think the reason they wanted to go on yours and kudos, because they don't often go on left-leaning shows. So that was a big of them. They usually go on, you know, Bill Maher and, you know, Tim Pool or whomever else will have them on. It's because you guys have a massive platform. And so they wanted some of that shine. They want some of your audience, but I guess your audience already knew what was happening. Hated them. We got ripped. I'm sure that I probably, I mean, I don't read the comments often, but I did. Kylie was like, hey, you might want to go read these and I was like, Oh my God, they're so mad at us. They are furious. We already had you booked at the time and they're like, have Francesca on. And I was like, that's already in the works. So I thought I'd ask you about it. And I thank you so much. And I look forward to future collaborating. The one thing I will say about our side, the progressive left, independent media space and listener, you all really like this. It's very collaborative and everybody's very supportive of each other from, you know, Majority Report to Hassan Piker to Austin Show to Don Lemon. Yes. To Joy Reid. Everybody is very helpful and collaborative because we all really want to fight this regime. And I think we should have honest conversations and just, and if we have it out, I love, I love shades of blue discussion. The problem is we don't have a lot of like good spaces to even have those discussions. And, but I think we should have more of them. You know, I don't want to shy away from that. I agree. Francesca, thank you so much. I look forward. I want to have you on frequently. And thanks for having pumps in me on the bitchuation room listener. Go follow Francesca. Her podcast is called the bitchuation room on YouTube. Obviously, darling, cute as a button, sharp as attack, all of the things. Um, thanks again, Francesca. No, thank you. All right. Bye. Bye. All right, listener. That's all we have. I hope that that settled. I'm sure some of you will probably always be mad at us for having Anna and Jane gone. The next time I have somebody like that on, I promise to be more comprehensive in my research. We crank out so much content with IHIP news. I try to be fluent in the news. And I'm not as fluent in these types of things and I can do better. So I hope you enjoyed Francesca and pumps and I will be back next Tuesday and Thursday. Listen up Patriots, Gaytriots and Natriots. We have a new podcast that has dropped. It's called I hip news. It's Monday through Friday, every day, 15 to 20 minute hot takes on the political landscape of the United States of America always served with a side of petty grievances. We are on all the available platforms, Apple, Spotify, Google, whatever you get your podcast and YouTube. Please go rate, subscribe and review so that we will chart upwards with America's greatest legal mind. Pumps, what does an eagle say? Caw-caw. A little bit more enthusiasm. Caw-caw. That's it. That's, that's. Caw-caw. That's the patriotism that this country needs right there.