The Biggest Karens Of Reddit | Reading Reddit Stories
74 min
•Dec 6, 20256 months agoSummary
Shane, Tommy, and guest Sarah Whittles analyze entitled behavior from Reddit stories, discussing roommate conflicts over overnight guests, tour guide responsibilities, birthday party planning mismatches, workplace harassment, relationship entitlement, and a cautionary tale about opening a monogamous relationship that ended in restraining orders.
Insights
- Entitlement often stems from poor communication and boundary-setting; many conflicts escalate when people refuse to take accountability for their own choices
- In shared living situations, both parties must balance personal autonomy with consideration for roommates; paying rent doesn't grant unilateral control over shared spaces
- Love languages and relationship expectations require explicit discussion; assuming a partner will enjoy an activity planned around your interests rather than theirs creates resentment
- Workplace humor and nicknames, even when well-intentioned, can constitute harassment if they target someone's circumstances and persist after being asked to stop
- Opening a monogamous relationship to address boredom or excitement-seeking is fundamentally different from consensual polyamory and often indicates deeper relationship issues
Trends
Rising awareness of emotional labor and reciprocity in relationships; younger generations calling out one-sided effortWorkplace harassment increasingly reported through HR channels rather than direct confrontation, shifting accountability dynamicsSocial media (TikTok) influencing relationship decisions without adequate real-world context or maturity considerationTherapy adoption increasing but inconsistent follow-through; people leaving therapy when confronted with accountabilityEntitlement framed as victimhood; inability to accept consequences for personal choices reframed as others being unsupportive
Topics
Roommate Conflict ResolutionShared Housing BoundariesRelationship Communication FailuresLove Languages MismatchWorkplace Harassment and NicknamesHR Reporting and AccountabilityMonogamous to Polyamorous Relationship TransitionsEmotional Labor in RelationshipsPersonal Accountability vs. VictimhoodTherapy Effectiveness and ResistanceSocial Media Influence on Life DecisionsEntitlement in Dating and PartnershipsTour Guide Professional BoundariesBirthday Planning and Partner PreferencesRestraining Orders and Obsessive Behavior
Companies
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People
Shane
Co-host of Smosh Reads Reddit Stories who analyzes entitled behavior and relationship dynamics from Reddit posts
Tommy
Co-host of Smosh Reads Reddit Stories who provides commentary on roommate conflicts and relationship issues
Sarah Whittles
Guest host and former Smosh executive producer (2016-2021) who worked across social, casting, and creative roles
Claudio
Referenced as potential tour guide for Italy trip with Bulgarian accent; appears to be associated with Smosh
Quotes
"I just feel like America can be the heartland of entitlement. Oh, of course. Yeah, like individualism is so popular. Exactly. It comes with it. I have the right to everything."
Sarah Whittles and Shane•Early in episode
"The price of community is annoyance. Like if you're in a roommate situation your roommate may hear your love making."
Tommy•During roommate story discussion
"She's not a concierge. She's not like a butler. She's not your mommy."
Shane•Discussing tour guide story
"You can't be the person to keep dealing with her when she treats me like garbage."
OP (boyfriend in pizza story update)•During relationship breakup discussion
"I will do anything to get him to return to me but he looks happy on social media with his new partner."
OP (open relationship story)•Final story update
Full Transcript
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Sarah. Yes. Sarah, who you used to be in charge of this channel in so much at Sposh? Yeah, I think I did over the five years I worked here. I think I did every single job. Yeah, you ran like our social coordinator PA, cast member for a bit like director, executive producer of everything, like literally marketing, social media did everything. Yeah. And I feel like Tommy, like when you first joined Sposh, like you were working with Sarah, it was just- I brought him in. I brought you in. You're the reason we have Tommy. Yeah, actually, yes, because like when mythical thought smash, it became like we were like grabbing onto each other, like the like the Titanic would sink in. We were like you and Courtney were like, Sarah, please come back. And I was like, okay, I'll come back Tommy. Come back. My body was ice cold. And Sarah was like, oh, you're real making him. Yeah, yeah. So we got it together. Tommy just ended back to the Alabran tarpids. And we had to get him back. Real talk though. Like, yeah, it is so I'm so proud of you guys. And I know Shane, Shane and Tommy, you guys just visited me in New York. I think we both separately cried. But like I'll say it again, I'll say a million times, I am so proud of what you guys have done since I've left in 2021. I've stayed such close- I mean, you guys are my best friends, like say such close friends, but like seeing the growth of the thing that I felt so ingrained in creating and like seeing where it is now, I genuinely think you guys are in a golden era. And I'm like proud mama, super fan. I'm watching all the content. I'm texting you guys all the time. So I am so, so proud of what you guys have done. And I'm just like, I am like the number one in smash fan. Thank you, Sarah. Well, I mean, I think it goes without saying like, smash has been in this golden era for a couple years, but so much of it is due to like all the things that were put in place for years. Absolutely. Leading up to that and so much of it is owed to the decisions you made. Like I feel like you really molded like a lot of the creative that we still follow. Anyway, I'm waiting for my caviar. Wasted it. Okay, now you're asking a little. That's called a Segway. There we go. Alright, let's get into these stories. How's good? Thank you. How much do entitled people bother you so much? Oh my god, it ranges me so much. Yeah, and I mean, look, it exists around the world, but I do feel like in America, maybe this is just because I've experienced this more than anything, but I just feel like America can be the heartland of entitlement. Oh, of course. Yeah, like individualism is so popular. Exactly. It comes with it. I have the right to everything. Exactly. Alright, let's get into these and see what we're dealing with. Our first story comes from Am I overreacting? This was posted only a couple months ago. Am I overreacting? Rumeit constantly expects me to leave so she can sleep with guys. Oh. Hello, posting on a different account. This happened yesterday. Today, she ended up just going to the guy's place instead of bringing him to our apartment, but she refuses to speak to me. In the first slide, the names I blurred out are my boyfriend's name and a friend of mine's name. So this is a text conversation. I'll be reading. This is visual aid. Alright. Rumeit says, hi, I'm having a guy over tomorrow around like seven. Would you be able to stay somewhere else for a few hours? Oh, he says, how long? Hours. They say, I'm not sure if he'll be spending the night yet if YGM. You get me. You get me. You get me. I don't know if they'll be spending the night yet. You get me. Oh, he says, I don't really anywhere I can go have anywhere. I'm just speaking in code. Yeah. Can you not go over to your boyfriend's place? He's visiting his family. He isn't around. Surely there is someone's house you can go to. Go to Blink. I already went to Blink on Tuesday because you had a different guy over. It's not fair of me to keep inconveniencing people like that. She doesn't even care and you don't have to say it like that. What? You don't have to say that like I'm a whore or something. Oh, he says, I didn't call you a whore. I just said I already went to Blink's place Tuesday because you had a guy over. You said different guy like I'm sleeping with loads of different people. Okay. I wasn't trying to make it seem like that. I was just saying it's not fair. It's my apartment too. And this would be like the third time this week. I've had to find somewhere else to stay. I don't mind you bringing people over but when it's happening multiple times a week and I have to look for other places to stay over because of it. It's not exactly fair. The roommate says, yeah, good job on not calling me a whore. Oh, he continues. Everything I said are things that are just factual. You are constantly bringing over guys and I constantly have to stay over somewhere else because of it. That's not calling you a whore. It's literally just telling the truth. You can sleep with who you want. I'm not judging you but I just don't appreciate having to leave my apartment constantly because of it. So you can bring Blink over but just because I'm bringing over guys. I'm not in a relationship with. It's not okay. Oh, he says, I purposely go to Blink's place because he lives alone. So it's easier that way. And I don't expect you to leave the apartment whenever he comes over when we're literally just hanging out. Blink barely comes over. It's not even comparable to how often you bring people over. roommate says, I don't get why it's a problem having to stay in your boyfriend's place for a night or for a few hours. Like I can understand not wanting to do that to our friends but literally why would your boyfriend mind? Oh, he says, are you forgetting that we share the same apartment? He doesn't mind coming over but my whole point is that we both live in that apartment. I'm entitled to stay there when I want. I live there. It's not fair that you constantly expect me to just leave whenever you want me to just because I can't go to my boyfriend's place. roommate says, I just don't understand why you're acting like this is the end of the world because you have to go somewhere else for a few hours and basically insinuating that I'm a whore. I don't know what problem is all of a sudden. Leaping. Oh, he says, I asked you in the past try to stop bringing over so many people because of this and you agreed but then just kept doing it. We are both trying to make different points and you aren't understanding what I'm saying about this being my apartment too. roommate says, okay, let's end the drama here. I'll figure something else out. Jesus Christ. OP continues. We were both in the kitchen at the same time today and she kept slamming cupboards and placing things down extremely aggressively. I went to shower after her in my conditioner had just accidentally opened and spilled all over the shower floor. Oh, come on. I really don't know if I was being too harsh or not but at the same time I don't feel like it's fair that I'm constantly expected to stay in other places so she can bring people over. I asked her to try to bring to bring over less people in the past and she agreed but then continue to just do the same shit afterwards. Am I overreacting in this whole situation? No. No. No. Next story. No, who's on? Dear God. I'm confused. They have their own rooms probably right? That's thing. I get that it's like hey in common spaces it's just like all right like hey like I'm gonna bring a guy over like like we're gonna hit dinner. Okay. If we kind of hang in the kitchen. Yeah. Whatever. Give him a hug. Then like if I were dating someone and I go over to their apartment and it's like oh and this is my roommate. It's just like cool like nice to meet you. Very natural situation. It's like you're gonna be this is your space too. It's like we'll have a nice dinner they come in and they get something out of the kitchen. You don't have to go hello. Yeah. You just keep having your dinner. You're co-living. Yeah. I'm gonna ask a question that feels obvious at least to me. Are they having crazy big band mariachi loud crazy times in both the living room and her room and that's why she wants. But maybe it's just a no-masing too on its own like even if if she was in the bedroom with her date maybe she's self-conscious about the noise but again I go back to like the price of community is annoyance like if you're in a roommate situation your roommate may hear your love making. You did a great job. You did a great job. You did a great job. You did a great job. You did a great job. You felt so stupid. But like that's just like the and then the roommate gets to decide like oh am I gonna like enjoy this and am I gonna turn up music and I'm gonna like hate it and leave the house like like her roommate. Her roommate can be like hey look I'm bringing some people over it's like great I'm gonna be staying here too it's like great we're gonna be doing some boisterous fucking but like that's okay then you will. And also like if you made it like if you bring home a guy and you're like trying to be quiet and they're like that's a little fun part too right yeah that's a little sneaky hot part but it does make me question what you're talking about of like are they using the whole space they are are some of the contracts being broken I think so. But every time every time with the new partner like I feel strange to like the if I was in a if because I've had roommates before but if the rule was whenever we bring someone over you can't be here I'm like that does not work that doesn't work yeah that's simply because what if she breaks up with her boyfriend exactly like then I need to live here all the time yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah three hour walk okay here a fun proposal for for the person who's bringing people over three some no oh I thought we were going there I thought we were going there whoa whoa whoa this is a Christian. Yeah religious program yeah we're live streaming after the rapture right now we're left I if she wanted to pay for two thirds of the other persons. Really period yeah I think that's like oh you want full dominion over this space well then I pay three hundred dollars a month to sleep in my bedroom somehow. I mean it's crazy like I had we all know offline that I had like a time in my life in Los Angeles where I was having a lot of fun. I think I'm not full I did. And it was a really fun time I never like phased me not chain. But wait but you guys did. So I'm sure you didn't miss out on anything. You didn't miss on it is so much fun so cool it's so much fun. Um and no shame in the game so I think it's also like if you are if you have a roster that is okay but it's like you don't if you don't live alone you don't live alone so you gotta navigate that as like a normal human being and like there was no name calling in that text there was no insinuation like. Whoa did you just say horror. How dare you. Whoa. This is a feminist program. No I've had roommates before and when people bring people over I never thought anything of it. I was just like that it like we're in our 20s. One time I had a roommate and when I lived out here in Los Angeles and I brought a day over and the next day she was like a older lady like in her 40s I loved living with her. That's awesome. And she was so chill and she was just like she was just so happy to be living us living together in Santa Monica and lie had a day over one night and she was like Sarah I was hearing a little bit of last night and she was like that was kind of hot and I was like right. Okay so there you go it's that maybe it could be a positive experience for everybody. And I have no shame on that. And I have no that's really funny. And like there is multiple dates going in and out of that apartment and she never shamed me once and so it's like it's just just having that open like non-judgmental conversation. Yeah. Claudio's gonna love watching. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. You're notic that a painting in your bedroom has like Scooby-Doo holes cut out of that. No, that's not that that that that that that fisherman seems to be looking at that. Keep going. I hate it. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is just like really bad roommate, like contract and the poll. I mean, like what sucks now is she needs to like move the boundary back to like a normal place of like, I do not need to leave my apartment. I'm paying rent. I'm paying rent for this day that I'm here. Like if I leave all night, then you owe me that whatever that amounts to then. Like that's unfair. Right. And living with a roommate is difficult. Like it's a very, very hard situation. And so I think like maybe this is a conversation or something that's just like, hey, whenever the lease is up, I think like I got to save up and prep to like not be roommates with you or yeah. Yeah, that's a good. At AJ Bell, we believe investing is for everyone, even people who know nothing about investing. 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Get to know them at blackrock.com, capital at risk, marketing material. BlackRock investment management UK limited. Authorised and regulated by the financial conduct authority. Oh, so in the comments, OP mentions that she has only slept at their apartment six times in the last month. OP needs to stop. OP is not entitled enough. The flat is standing up for themselves and not tolerate this insanity. That's less than a week out of the month. She should be paying $250. That's what you don't live there. You don't live there. You don't live there. That sucks. That's all. This is certain. Can I be honest? This is starting to... I'm questioning if this person is sleeping with people. I'm starting to be like, what are you actually doing that you are kicking them out of this apartment so often? Oh, you think it's like a... I just start to be like, what are all the other options? Right. Like, you're just having me out of the apartment so much... Well, and that roommate is probably to go down more the conspiracy. That roommate's probably like going out on dates with these people and being like, yeah, come back to my place. Like, no one's there. It's like sometimes go to their apartment. That's also fun to judge. Because this has become the normal for them. They're just like, oh, I basically have this apartment to myself while paying half the rent. And why do you like not know if they're going to like sleep over and not? Maybe it's like a first date and you don't know like how it's going to end up. Why are you going to first date out your apartment? But no, I'm saying like the after party at the front of you. But you don't know if you're going to like kick them out or like have the sleep over. But at that point, it's like, yeah, what are you doing? All night long. All night long. Also, I wasn't like with that frequency, I would be kind of worried about my stuff. That's because the kind of more I think is like safety of just like, you're bringing strangers. This is true too. I don't know. But if it was like three a month, four a month, I wouldn't be as concerned. But it's like, I'm at home for six days out of the month. I'm still that six days, yeah. It's like, I'm going to be bringing my laptop with me, my passport with me. It's like a storage unit at that point. It's like, that's not a home. Yeah, no, they're being robbed. Yeah, a rent. A rent. Yeah. Comments, I mean, you two are adults, just stay home. It's up to the guy to decide if it's weird or not. If she gets creeped out by it, then fucking his house. Yeah. Opie says. The fucking his house. The fucking his house. Dude, Opie says, I've told her in the past that I don't mind just putting my AirPods on and listening to music. But she says she doesn't want me there. She rarely ever goes to their houses. She only seems to bring them here. Some say, like, sorry. Boo. Someone said, the main weird thing here is that either of you think the other has to leave when you have someone over for sex. You have your own private rooms. I've never heard of roommates expecting the other to leave because they have people spending the night. Do you guys think this is normal? Because this isn't something people usually do or expect. Just because you're going to have sex in your own separate rooms doesn't mean the other has to leave the apartment. Someone says not overreacting. And we're very calm and explained to her why you were upset with her request. Does she always ask you these things so short notice? It's like you said, this is your apartment too. Sure, there's something to be said about offering each other a private evening every once in a while if there's intimate company over, depending on the housing situation. But three times in one week, regardless if it's the same person or not, is a lot. The fact that she acted like you insulted her and put words into your mouth and then acted very passive aggressively afterwards is not helping her case. I agree with another commenter that it sounds like you need to sit down and talk about this. And if not, maybe one of you needs to find another place if that's at all possible. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. This is the biggest red flag. Nightmare roommate. Yeah, and the way they responded to, it's like, hey, I'm trying to offer like a- What are you calling me a whore? Oh, you're calling me a whore? It's just like they're just shutting down the conversation. Exactly. They know what they're doing. Yeah. Next story. This comes from Am I the asshole? Also, just a couple months ago. Am I the asshole for not waking up a tourist who overslept and missed the day trip she paid for? Oh, just a tourist. Just a tourist. Just a tourist? All right. Hi, guys. I, a 21-year-old woman, am a Bulgarian tour guide who accompanies groups to Sicily. On a recent trip, one woman who was traveling alone, mid-30s, was consistently oversleeping. The first day after we arrived, we had a day trip to Etna and Taur Mina. For which we departed at 8am, as we do all our other day tours. I make sure that all tourists are informed of the departure times on the bus the day before, and they also have my number to call in case they forget, so I can remind them. They also all have printed out pamphlets with the schedule made by the travel agency that I hand out that has the time for departure on it. All of the group was on time except one woman. She was 10 minutes late, which, okay, maybe she got caught up in something and was late. I excused it, then mentioned to the whole bus on the mic that I did not tolerate lateness beyond 15 minutes at most in case of emergency, like a forgotten possession, and that I must always be called and informed in case someone is running late. The trip went by, okay, otherwise. The next day, the same tourist was late again by 25 minutes, almost an entire half hour. I called her twice to no answer, and we were just about to leave without her when she came out running and got on the bus. She got lucky as the receptionist of the hotel asked me about a missing piece of info on the rooming list and earned her some time. I reminded everyone again that I will not be waiting anymore for late tourists in the morning and waking up on time is their responsibility. When we came back that evening, she asked me if I could make sure to wake her up on time. I reminded her a third time that I'm not responsible for waking people up. Someone gets a printed itinerary with departure times and I announce everything the day before. She kept saying, no, no, just knock on my door if I'm not out by 815. And I kept repeating, I really can't do that for everyone, please set an alarm. Well on the day we were visiting Syracuse, she didn't show up. I waited 15 minutes after the supposed departure time, called her twice to no response, then left with the bus and the rest of the group. She called me in a panic about an hour later asking where we were. I explained the situation calmly. She called me two days later. No. She called me the next business day. She got angry and said that I had one job and that I cheated her out of the money she paid to go on that day trip. She missed the whole day trip and was furious the next day. Later she told the rest of the group that I abandoned her and also called my agency, leaving a bad review about me. No. Am I the asshole for not personally waking up a grown woman despite warning her multiple times I wouldn't? No, no, just knock on my door. No, it's not going well. No, just knock on my door, dude. If you pay the money to travel somewhere and then do the travel guide, if you sleep past the thing, that's your decision, that's your vacation. Exactly. And saying, oh, you only have one job, sorry, her job is to do the tour. Exactly, the job is to do the tour. Not to wake you up. Other people. She's not a concierge. She's not like a butter. She's not your mommy. She's not your mommy. She has a job and the job is not to wake you up. Yeah. And can I just, does it not, like, I have anxiety when I'm running late to anything? Oh, I hate being late. I would rather be there. I'd rather wake up so early and hate it and get to the thing on time because I'll wake up late. You know, you'll be like, oh. You know, that feeling when you're playing hide and go seek and you're like, hiding and you have to pee and that's what feeling late feels like to me. Yes. What I'm running late. That's me so much, but it's hard for me to talk on this because I'm someone who wakes up so early anyways. I love to be up early so I can chill for a second before I go do the thing. Yeah, I don't like being rushed. I just, I feel like that starts my day off on a bad day, but especially when I'm traveling, I'm so focused on one thing. The one focus is to be there and be on the tours and go. So I just don't understand, like, these are the consequences of your own action for you to blame someone else. For you being late when everyone else understood the assignment. Like, you're not only being disrespectful to the company, you're being disrespectful to everyone else on that trip. And so now they have to start the day by getting a talking to about not being late, even though they were not late. It's just so inconsiderate. And like, to be like, oh, can you help me wake up? It's like, no, you're an adult. Be an adult. So up. And take the responsibility. Wake up on time. You are late. You are late. And that is the consequence. They also, they also give the 10 minute oops you had to do a morning shift. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you're late because you have to shit. Right. And that's okay. I'll go, I'll go, hey, Alexena, Jonathan, I'm going to be about 10 minutes late today. We know why I'm late. It happened at home and not in the office. And that's okay. And that's, yeah, that's okay. 10 minutes is fine. And it's, it's just, this, this one blows me away. And it was, yeah, like, she, she waited and it was an hour. And she's like, where are you guys? So you're expecting everyone to lose an hour of their day trip. Right. For you. Right. Because you can't wake up. Well, and it's like, I've never been on a cruise, but cruise is are similar, right? It's like when they like, doc at like a island or whatever. Oh, yeah, I don't show back there. They're like, you better show up at 3 p.m. or the boat. Or you're stranded at the place. Yeah. I can't even imagine the logistical nightmare. I'd rather be there an hour before than even 5 minutes late. Oh, I'm a person. You're stranded in a place without my shit. I'd rather be stranded in a place. Yeah. And I also understand like when I'm late and by my own mistakes, I'm pissed off. And it's like, but you can't redirect that. You can't justify it. You have to be like, yeah, I fucked up. And I'm mad at myself. Of course. She doesn't know how to be mad at herself. Yeah. She's mad at, she's mad and she never, she clearly never in her life learned how to like handle that. What is this? I don't know how to get out everywhere else. Yeah. I think accountability in general is really hard to like face when you're like, oh fuck, I fucked up. Like it was my fault. And so I think the natural reaction is to like force it on someone else and be like, no, it's your fault. But like, learn how to take accountability, grow up, set an alarm, set 20 alarms. Like, and maybe there's other- So this calling you is them waking you up? Exactly. And either way, if there's multiple factors or if there's like a medical thing or like whatever, like you know and forced you on this trip, on this solo trip, like you're also wasting your money if you aren't like totally committed to the bit. Right. Right. Whatever's going on, she has to prepare herself to work for the greater Torah that everyone else has. You have to take care of yourself. It's like, yeah. Comments, this woman could have also requested a wake up call from her hotel. Yes. Someone said- Someone said, I'm an avid traveler. I'd be angry to sit on the bus every morning waiting on someone who is chronically late to time his money and she'd be wasting mine. Hi. If she's worried about her, she needs to set an alarm. If she complained to other guests, I guarantee you they weren't feeling bad for her, not the asshole. Someone said, did anyone notice that the tardy tourist was asking OP to knock on her door 15 minutes after the scheduled departure time? Which would mean if they were still asleep even longer waiting time, not the asshole. Yeah, she's not fully clothed with a coffee in her hand and bed. Ready to go. That's how. A small little update. Oh. I talked to my manager today. I was nervous at first because I was already tired of this whole shenanigan and didn't want to spend ages defending myself. So I went to him first and explained the situation before he approached me. He told me word for word. Hun, I deleted that BS from my email as soon as I read it. LOL and icon. They'll remove the bad review. Yes. We love like customers always write not. Yeah. You have right. Sorry. Yeah. Never been to Italy, but a tour in Italy sounds great. Sarah's never been either. Never ever. Never. No, we're all going to go. Oh my gosh, a dream for all of us to go to Italy together and call you and turn us. It'll be amazing. Tourists around. Oh my god, it's going to be so fun. Claudio could be our Bulgarian tourist. He has to have a Bulgarian accent the whole time. Yeah, he can do that. He could do that. He could do that. Yeah. And I will, I will be waking up at 10 a.m. No matter what. That's not possible for you. Don't even go even joke. Yeah, I can. I can. Now we'll be up at 5.30. You guys will, I'll be knocking on cafe doors like I open up. Italy does not start moving until like 10 or 11 a.m. I'm up way too early. You're like, you need to stop going on. All right. Our next story comes from relationship advice. Yeah. About a year old. My boyfriend, 32-year-old man, threatened to break up with me on a Harry Potter marathon night that I, a 29-year-old woman, planned because he was embarrassed and would rather drink at the club. At the club? Drinking at the club. Drinking at the club. Yesterday was his birthday. We are both Harry Potter fans, but I'm more into it and he likes golfing in cars more than I do. Yesterday morning, I asked him if he wanted to go out somewhere and I told him that I'm planning on a surprise tonight. He didn't ask anything further and left for work. During the evening, I had set the sofas, spread the blankets, arranged the coffee table, fluffed all the pillows and warmed up the place. Time is damn, okay. Should I bot now? Yeah. I learned magic. Yeah. I made pizza at home for the first time and made smoothies. I brought all kinds of sweets and made many Harry Potter-like candies with them. I got this idea from those reels and had always told him that I wanted to try it out. He didn't see my message till around 9.30 pm and arrived at 10 pm. I didn't mind it much, but told him that I had everything prepared and that we could snuggle up and watch together. He told me that he was tired and didn't want to do it. So I tried requesting him to sit with me for at least one movie. He somehow agreed. He ate the pizza, but didn't try any of those mini-candyed structures I made. And then, when we were comfortable enough, the broomstick scene came on. And I tell him how I used to have a crush on Draco as a kid. He suddenly got up from there and I nearly hit my head on the sofa board. He told me it was embarrassing for me to be obsessing over Harry Potter as an adult. That his friends, girlfriends are more mature than me and are actually planning their lives ahead. I didn't know how me liking Harry Potter related to that because I barely ever talked to him about Harry Potter much before. He just walked away after that and I let him. When I don't come to bed, he tells me I have horrible taste for even crushing on Tom Felton and that he looks like a sulkin cow now. All right. Hello, hello. What hurt me most was that he didn't even taste the sweets I made or even lie down with me for at least an hour. I would have been okay to even change the movie or shut it down and when I tried suggesting he just kept shaking his head. He told me to fix my ways before he gets fed up and leaves me for good. Oh my God. And that he denied a really good offer to drink at the bar with his friends. It's morning and I haven't talked to him yet. He just left without even looking at me. I might be at fault here for not taking his interest into much consideration. I just thought we would like it because I would show him stuff like that and he always admired it. I feel kind of hurt. The pizza I made was also his favorite but he didn't seem to show much for it. I don't know if I may be overreacting. I don't know if it's right for me to love this series anymore. It had been part of my childhood and I grew up with it. We have been together for three years now. All right. There's a lot of layers to this. So it is the boyfriend's birthday. Yes. So she plans a Harry Potter marathon for his birthday. She just the two of them. Starting at 9.30. Starting at 9.30. Give me a little six AM. Yeah. Watching Harry Potter. And he likes golfing in cars more than night. Does that mean she also likes golfing in car? I need some red string. This is a little confusing. Yeah. I think that just is it. It feels like she's more of a Harry Potter fan than he is. So she made like a Harry Potter night. Right. His birthday, which I could see. Now here's the thing though. And they live together. They live together. Right. So it's like, okay. But he seems to like blast off on her in a crazy other way. That I could fusing where he's mad at her for liking Draco Malfoy. Right. Now, and then he insults Tom Felton. It's like, hey. Which we don't dare. Tom Felton. Well, Tom Felton does not need to catch a stray here. Right. Okay. I think he's a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit. Like if he started going after JK Rowling, I'd be like, okay, fair. Okay, do it. Like I thought that was going to be the angle. He's like, well, I don't like JK Rowling. She's a piece of shit. It's like, okay, okay, fair. Okay, let's throw a party about that. That's not what he said though. No. Right. So we're like, what's going on? Either OP is leaving out tons of history of like, wait, what's the pattern here? Yeah. Yeah. Because you're talking, I will also say, she's like, we've been dating for three years. You're talking about your interests as if you're not really sure what you guys are in for the first time. But I also think there's a little entitlement of her making it like her Tik Tok Harry Potter movie. Yeah. This feels like her birthday. Exactly. In reading the story, I forgot that it was his birthday. Exactly. So I, like, especially if you're in a relationship that long, but any birthday planning, like, I always ask the birthday person. What do you want to do? What do you want to do? You want to go out to the Claire? What's your ideal thing? Yeah. You want to like stay in. Do you want to do nothing? Do you want a small group of big group? Do you want to build you candy structures? And if the person's like, I'm down for whatever, but I want to just stay home or whatever. Like I think when it comes to people's birthdays, everyone approaches it in such a different manner for you to make a surprise like this. So focused on your interests. Yeah. It's like already is a tough situation. Yeah, it's a little bit interesting. And he did get invites to go hang out with friends, but it's like, did she ask, we're li- Exactly. We don't have a lot of info. What was the planning process of this? Yeah. There's a little bit of like- A lot of confusing stuff. This all would have been solved if she just made it a Lord of the Rings watch party. Okay. Because it's just far superior. It's just far better. Pretty much anything. Comments, I know you feel bad, but sis, you practically planned a night for you, not for his birthday. Exactly. Opie says I honestly wouldn't mind if that means spending time with him. Opie, what are you? What? Does that mean she's not- I think she speaks in riddles. She's like, I just want to spend time with him, but maybe you could have spent time at the club with the drinking if that's what you wanted to do. You can spend time with him and make it for him. Exactly. Right. Bring a cloak and a scarf if you have to. But it's also like, I'll say, okay, there's so much going on too, like him picking a fight about like multiple random things. No one's in the clear here. I think it's my takeaway is, oh, this communication has been so bad for so long. You guys don't like each other and you have not come to terms with it yet. The boyfriend could be mad because of the way this birthday was planned for her and not for him, but he's expressing it in horrible- just he's expressing it horribly. Yeah, I don't feel seen because this is more about you and said he's like, yes. I think you're stupid. I hate talking about boys ugly. No. He's ugly. He had blonde hair. You want me to get blonde hair now? Yeah, it's like, oh, you're just calling me a whore. Someone else said maybe he'll take you for 18 holes of golf in a car show for your birthday. That's awesome. Someone says as a 13-year-old man, he may like Harry. Sorry, what did I say? You said 13-year-old man. 13-year-old man. As a 32-year-old man, he may like Harry Potter, but his idea of a birthday surprise is not a Harry Potter marathon. Exactly. You sound very entitled. He didn't even taste the sweets I made or even lie down with me for at least an hour. He feels you have a different ideas and wants a more grown-up evening. There may be more issues at heart for him too. I feel this is the final straw sort of incident. You need to sit down and have a calm conversation with him. I don't like grown-up evening though. Why did that make me mad? Because I think there's nothing wrong with him. Not this is wrong if it's what he won. Like child-like joy. Yeah. I'm not sure if it's wrong with me. Movie, exactly. It's Disney adults. Yeah. But like, you're so bad about joy. A lot of time. I think there's a lot of time. I'm about joy. But the communication is just the same. Yes, exactly. We don't need to limit anything. It's just about doing what he wants for his birthday. Right. Right. And yes, and the comment does point out like she's upset because of what he's not doing on his birthday. Yeah, exactly. Like, hey, this wasn't your night. He didn't like his birthday the way I wanted him to like it. Right. All right. Moving on. Our next story comes from Am I the Butt Face? This is posted in 2019. That's real? There's another one. Am I the Butt Face? What is that word? There's just a bunch of... Is that the Christian one? Because they want to say ask. Not necessarily. They all just have slightly different rules on like what can be posted. So what's Butt Face? That's my face. Should I out your mouth? Yeah, probably. Should I out your mouth? I know the OG Am I the asshole subreddit? It's not allowed to do with relationships. Like it says... That has weird mod rules. So then other ones are made. Butt Face is no eyes, no nose. Exactly. Well, the butt hole is the nose. It was all... That's new. And it just smells bad all the time. All right. This comes from Am I the Butt Face? 2019. Would I be the Butt Face if I demanded to know who reported me to HR? Butt Face? Butt Face. I want to take this seriously, but Butt Face is so hot. I know. I am in my early 30s and mail. In our office, I am known as a bit of a jokester. Oh. Nothing mean and I don't go out of my way to prank someone or hurt anyone's feelings. But I have plenty of jokes and give lots of silly nicknames. I'm not, I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it. I'm kind of a jokester. I know. I say you too. I turn it to a V really? Silly nicknames. No! There is a newer woman in our office. She's in her early 20s and she has a three-year-old. They live in an RV park a few miles away from work and I've nicknamed her RV Reba. No. No. I didn't see the harm. It's just a silly nickname. I've given silly nicknames to most of my coworkers. If anyone complains about it, I just explain I don't mean anything by it. It's just a silly thing I do and there was no reason for them to be offended. RV. I like how he's like no offense. Yeah. No offense. RV Reba. You shall take no offense. Yeah. They continue. RV Reba wasn't thrilled with the nickname, said it was insulting, but I explained it wasn't intended to be. It was just something silly I came up with. She asked me to stop using it. I don't use it around her much anymore, but I think it's a silly thing to get upset about so I still use it around others. Well, someone reported me to HR. I got called into a meeting this morning and given a written warning to stop harassing my coworkers. I don't see how this is harassing at all. They're silly nicknames. I asked who reported me and they said it was not just one person but multiple complaints. RV Reba and a few others were getting coffee. It's just like every time. And I wanted to know who reported me. RV Reba said she didn't know, but was glad they spoke to me about it since I wasn't listening to them asking me to stop. I think it was probably her and one of the two other co-workers who can never take a joke. I want to know exactly who it was though. A few co-workers said I'm already the butt face and should let it go, but I really want to know who reported me. Would I be the butt face if I demanded to know who it was? I just love it says verdict, butt face. Well, yes, he is the butt face. Yeah, but you're a friend. You are the butt face. Yeah, you're the butt face. I think legally you are entitled to know who reported you to. Yeah, it doesn't matter if you're the butt face for demanding it. It's multiple people saying. It's just not going to happen. Yeah, multiple people are like you suck, stop doing that. You should not do that. This is very classic. Like it's a joke. I'm just joking. Right. Just joking around. That doesn't, that doesn't like wash you of your sins. Yeah, it doesn't. Or even like how people can feel about a certain nickname or a certain joke. Right. Never heard of empathy, ever heard of compassion, ever heard of respect. It's true even for our workspace where our job is telling jokes and being silly, right? We're expected to be silly all the time. Now even here, if someone goes ahead, I don't like that joke. Exactly. We go, all right, we won't say that. Exactly. Yeah, but they're in, I'm assuming, a workspace where telling jokes is not part of the job. But even like- You're not even expected to tell jokes, man. Like tell jokes that's fine, but if someone tells you to stop, you have to stop. You're not expected to be making people laugh. But even if we like drill it down to like what it is, it's not even like a but a bunch joke. It is a nickname. And like you should be giving nicknames to people that- Have names already. It's also, it's also straight up- But it's also you're not friends. Yeah. Also, if we're going to talk about giving nicknames horrible nicknames. Horrible nicknames. Horrible nicknames. Horrible. They're location and then their name. Well, she's a single mom that works two jobs. Like, come on. That's so heavy. That's true. Like what are you referring to? What are you referring to? And it's also like, she just started a new job. She's young. She's trying to like being a woman in the workplace is also very hard. She's trying to like make a name for herself in the place. Like whenever you're- And the name is not RV- And it's not RV- And it's not RV- I think that's just so condescending and weird and off-putting. Like, absolutely should be reported to HR. And absolutely should quit this shit. Like, you are not hired to make silly jokes on the job. Right. Like, be a professional, be respectful, especially to women. Like, it's just so beyond me that he thinks like, Oh, I'm just being silly. And it's like, did anyone down on hire you to be silly? No. No, absolutely not. Yeah, because no, your explanation makes it sound like she's a little bit more of an RV Brockovich, you know? Mm-hmm. And we'll got that. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER LAUGHTER But I will say, like, I've been lucky that I've worked in workplaces that like, even if I am like, there's a joke that goes too far or something like that, I am the type of person's like, Hey, can you like not joke about that? Yeah. And everyone's been very like nice about it. I've always worked in these like creative video fields, so sometimes the lines get blurred. And so the fact that like, having to ask more than once or even just like, to explain why it's inappropriate, it's just like, it's just beyond me. Like, we're adults here. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I wonder if it's because in our creative fields, I mean, no, I hear horror stories about it in our fields too, but I feel like working at Smosh like, inevitably, we run into this so often, right? Yeah, of course. I mean, it's not even amongst ourselves, but just in our videos where we go like, oh, we did something that we, that we won't say that again. Yeah, okay. That didn't look good or whatever. Yeah. So I feel like it's just part of our job. So we just have so much experience with it, not to like, take it so personally when it's like, hey, just don't say that. Like, learn the behavior now. Right. Someone saying, I don't like that you say that, or like, I don't like that. Doesn't mean that, like, I mean, maybe not this guy. But that doesn't mean like you're a bad person, or I hate you now. It's just like, hey, I'm drawing a line right there for that thing. And that's it. And you just go, great. I won't do that anymore. You're playing elsewhere. Right. It's easy. And I think, what is he going to do with that information? Right. If they name names, which they're not going to, because they have to protect who did the report, like, what, and what that, he's going to have to create a whole style, uh, inner action, he's going to retaliate, you know, like, be mean to that person, like, grow up. Yeah. He also, uh, is clearly like lacking self awareness of, hey, like, nicknames jokes, it's But you are a man in your 30s, and she is a young woman in her early 20s who is new to this job. And so you have to understand how this is gonna come across. She's in a place where she probably feels scared to speak up for herself. Well, she's new too. And the last thing you want to do as a new person is ruffle the feathers and be like, feel like it's hostile. It's a very tough situation. There's stuff that she's in a hard spot. Yeah, yeah. They're stuck there. Like, you know, like make this easy for them. Exactly. And we've all met people that like kind of don't know when to stop joking, even if they think like even if they're not funny. Like they're especially. They just like, I wish I had that confidence. But like, we've all been around those people. And I think it is a very difficult situation to sit them down and be like, hey, I get you think you're silly, but this is not silly goose time. This is going to be a professional. And HR did their job here, which is to just lay something out as straightforward as possible. Yeah. It's like, hey, stop. Yep. Yep. We're asking you to stop doing this thing. We've had reports and edit. Comments, I think you know you're the butt face. Your jokes aren't amusing to others. This has been explicitly spelled out to you multiple times from the sound of it. Therefore, you should have already stopped. If others aren't laughing, it's not funny. If it's not funny, it's not a joke. If it's not a joke, your continued behavior is harassment. Stop it before you quite rightly lose your job. Someone said, you are the butt face massively. You zero in on something that someone finds embarrassing and repeatedly pointed out to all and sundry. You say it's just a laugh, but plainly not for reba. I'm glad your colleagues reported you. You sound like a horrible person to have around. Someone said, you're the asshole and insulting. What's wrong with you? Or you are not funny. You don't get to demand anything. You can request. You can be told, no, you do not get to decide what people want or like to be called. You do not get to decide what someone feels about anything. With multiple people complaining, I'm shocked you're not in more trouble. What you're doing is harassment and bullying. You're at a place of work. Be more mature and professional. Damn. Yeah. I also think I've been in relationships and dynamics mostly with a male and me. If you do say your boundaries are you're like, hey, that's not funny or they go, it's a joke. So I think it's like, if your response is it's a joke, that itself needs to be a self-reflection thing because you're also brushing off that person's emotions. And I've been in that situation kind of gaslit of like, it's just a joke. Why are you taking it so seriously? And you're like, well, I'm kind of not feeling great after you said that thing. And that's the issue. Yeah. And we work in comedy and we know, like, jokes do, there's like a reality to it. Yeah. Exactly. You can't just say, oh, well, it's just all silly and there's no implications. There's no meaning behind it. It's like all jokes have some reality to it. Wow, much of it is to be determined. But it's a very privileged position as a guy to just be like, oh, it's just fine. It's whatever. It's like, yeah, because you're not threatened in this place. Exactly. Where's he scared? She doesn't know you. Exactly. All right. Our next story comes from Am I overreacting? It's a new one. It's only like a month or so old. Am I overreacting? Girlfriend threw away the dinner I cooked because she wanted pizza instead. What should I cook dinner? I want pizza. Pizza! Girlfriend texted me earlier. I'm too tired and frustrated to even respond. I was trying to do something nice for her and surprise her with something she said she really liked. But apparently she wasn't in the mood for it. I feel pretty tired of trying in general. I guess I didn't really ask her what she wanted tonight for dinner, but I still feel pretty angry. Text messages between OP and girlfriend. So the girlfriend texts him, hey, when is your break? Can you pick up a pizza so I have something to eat tonight? OP responds, no babe, I made the wine braised short ribs. You said last night where your favorite, I got up early to cook them. You just have to pull them from the pot. There's that and the small smores cake I made for Wednesday since there's extra and I figured you'd want some. Okay, so he made wine. Braised short ribs. Yeah. And there's more cake. Okay, Martha. Girlfriend response, I don't really want that though. Can you just grab a pizza on your break? We can eat that stuff later. That's stuff. That's stuff. Oh, he says, OP says no, I'm locked in for the night. What's wrong with the short ribs? You literally just told me it was your favorite thing, so I made it special for you. Kind of sucks. Well, I tried it and it came out kind of gross anyway, so I'm tossing it. Can you ask to leave for a bit and stop by a Papa John's or something? I just want stuffed crust. What do you mean gross? You tossed it as in like through it away? It just tasted bad. I don't know what to tell you. It wasn't eatable. It's not a big deal. I just need to eat something tonight for dinner though. Did you ask? Dude, what the fuck? That was expensive meat. Why would you throw it away? I already told you I'm not leaving work. Well, I don't know what you expect me to do. It's simple as fuck. Just order a pizza then if you're busy. Like, I have to eat something. Hello? Places are closing soon. I'm busy at work. I don't want to talk about it right now. Please figure it out. We'll talk later. She says, seriously, you're going to be this much of an asshole over this. I didn't ask you to cook anything. If you can't deal with the basics of being a supportive partner, then it should be something I consider and find someone who will support me. Dude. Oh, no. Why can't she order the pizza? I think that's my confusion. That's my confusion. Why can't she get the Papa John with the little pepper? I can't do it. I can't do it. Clearly she has her phone. Clearly she has her phone. You have your phone in your hands. Yeah, that's literally. Your phone in your hands. Like, get it delivered at your workplace and just like heat it back up or something. Oh my god. Stop and get like a frozen pizza. I feel like there's a lot of like problem solving. Place they're closing soon. Papa John's is open forever. You can get, if there's one thing you can get at any time, it's pizza. You can find a pizza somewhere. I don't know where you live, but like you could probably find a pizza. And if not, there's short ribs. She's at home. She threw the short ribs away. Right? I think that's a little brutal to say like over text. Like I feel like, I don't even know where to begin with this story. There's so much. I'm like line by line. Let's go. This is a lot. This is a lot. This is ridiculous. Okay, so this is where it goes beyond like need like, if I knew this guy, I'm like, we don't need to talk about this. Yeah, I know. I'd be like, man, look in the mirror. Everybody sit down. Take a breath. Yeah. How did they say how long they were together for it? No, but like we don't get much before the text messages. So who posted this? The boyfriend posted this and he posted all the screenshots of the text messages and yeah, the verdict's not overreacting by the way. Right. Of course. We probably get some more in the comments. Let's go to the comments. Yeah. You really shouldn't be dating a teenager. I can't comprehend this person being an adult. Sarcasm aside, get the hell out of this relationship. You want to spend the next 40 years or whatever with someone who throws homemade meals in the garbage, demands pizza from a chain restaurant and is seemingly incapable of ordering delivery herself and is rude as fuck to you? Dude, there's so many red flags in this exchange that you could open up an Etsy store selling used red flags and become a multi-millionaire. Okay. Okay. Yeah, for sure. Time. Okay. Okay, stand up comedian. O.P. responds to that though. Oh. And says not sure why I can't edit to add more information on mobile, but I'm borrowing the top comment to answer some questions. She lost her card last week while hanging out with some friends and had to cancel her accounts. She's using mine until her new one comes in the mail. I have not gotten to eat any of the prepared food. Cooking is my love language. I think I mostly just feel heartbroken at this point and that's why I've decided to just finish work tonight and talk to her in the morning about it. Yeah. Dude, my god, she sounds useless. It's his love language. I know, that's what my gut, I'm like, I was thinking like maybe their love languages are like off and then there's also no consideration for each other. She threw it out though. She threw it out is crazy. Throwing it out before even asking. Before he gets to eat it. Yeah. That's a, that's a breakup. And I'm thinking like maybe there are the stew or whatever is savable. Oh, she's always savable. I feel like there's still. You have more of the other stuff. Yeah, more of that stuff. I don't believe her that she tried it. No. She wanted a pizza. Pizza. It's not, it's not eatable. Eatable. Eatable. That's all I need. It's not eatable. I miss pronounced stuff all the time but no. And he works quickly. She said it last night and he cooked it this morning. Damn. I know. She could have at least sent a text like, hey babe, I appreciate you cooking dinner, but it wasn't my favorite. Can we order something else instead? Exactly. There was no appreciation shown and just throwing it away was rude, especially if you liked it. I honestly probably would have just ordered myself something else to eat and told you later that I didn't like it, etc. Your feelings are valid. Update. Oh. Yes. Yay. After spending the morning at a friend's house, I went ahead and just went back to our apartment. I haven't really slept honestly with how anxious I've been. Basically, I went back to the apartment. She was there scrolling on her phone. I went ahead and just came out with it and explained to her that I can't keep trying to make things work with someone who doesn't care about what I do for them. She started to cry and told me it's just the way her brain works and it's not her fault. Go. She said she's trying in therapy and that she feels like she doesn't deserve to be loved. I'm more or less a fault. Oh no. Jesus Christ. Oh no. I gotta go home now. I'm more or less followed up and explained to her, I can't be the one to keep dealing with her when she treats me like garbage. She basically got angry as hell at this point and told me I never cared and I never really tried or I wouldn't just leave over something so stupid. She broke a glass. I kept from growing up. She broke. No, come on. She broke a glass. I kept from growing up that was sitting on our counter by throwing it on the ground at which point I just stopped talking. I spent an hour with her yelling and begging me while I grabbed things I have that are valuable. I'm just going to disappear for a bit at my friends. I need to figure out what to do about the rent and stuff since we have a month until renewal. I know it's not really all that crazy of an update, but I'm. Not that crazy. No. She's growing things. But I wanted to just get in and out and be done after thinking about it and being ready to move on from being unhappy. I appreciate everyone's comments and to the people who reached out. I'll be honest, I feel like I've wasted a ton of my life trying to help a broken person and it's just equal parts depressing while also a feeling of being empty and tired. I'm going to try to my best to make things better in my life and only give people who appreciate me and the stuff that I do. That's the whole point. Yeah, man. You can't be down on yourself for trying, you know, for doing that thing of like trying to help someone. I know we all have the thing of like you can't, you know, they have to help themselves. You can't be the person. I feel like it's a canon event for most people to be in a relationship with someone who is like this who has probably some wonderful positive things but then has these other things that are hard to deal with. It's a pairing that happens, I think, so often and it's because when you know the source of someone's toxic traits. Exactly. You go, well, I know why they're that way. But at a certain point, you kind of have to be like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't change. Because here we are right now and you're throwing in glass. You're breaking glass on the floor and I can't be here for that. Exactly, exactly. God, geez. I think it's also too, like you kind of like, I think I'm a natural optimist but I think in relationship, everyone is a natural optimist. So you're just like, you know, maybe they had a bad day. You're being very compassionate. You're being very empathetic. But there is a point in relationships where you can also go, this is just not gonna work. Right. And it's like, I still care for the person. Of course. There's still emotions there. Like he's probably going through some heartbreak too. But like at some point, you got to be like, this is not my mess to fit. Right. And this is also not my person that I want to like continue with. And so you kind of have to like break the cycle. So sometimes little things like this break it. Where you're like, holy shit. When the cycle breaks. You're like, oh my god. I'm like, finally, I'm free. Frontal lobes are connecting. Yeah, because there's like a torsion. You're like, oh my god. And then like six months later, when it's just a story because everything you do turns it to just a story, you're like, holy shit. Thank God I got out. Exactly. And I did because like that's just not a mess that I had to clean up. Right. Especially when this is my life as well too. And you look back and you go, there's no way I could have ever clicked. Like there was no chance of me ever doing that. Exactly, exactly. And you know, I've been in situations where I look back and I go, oh, I was never going to help this person. Exactly. Right, exactly. Like by just being there. By just being part of the toxic. They're doing their toxic things and I'm tolerating it. Right. Like what's going to happen here? No, we have to leave. We have to leave. And there's guilt. I think there's like when you're that person that's like finally make them in call and witnessing all this stuff happen. Like as he's packing up and she's crying and begging, like you're feeling guilty. Because you're like, oh, shit, I am like quitting this thing. But like some things are worth quitting and some things are worth walking away. And relationships are like, if you're in a bad relationship, it is so like, and not even bad, a wrong relationship. Like it's painful as hell. I'd much rather be by myself figuring out than being in like a situation like that. So like he's making a good call not only for him but for her as well. Because she has growth to do do. Saying I'm unlovable. It's like that's taking the again. That's a manipulation tactic. Taking the accountability out of it. Because it's like you unlovable. You just crashed a glass from my childhood on the floor. Are you trying to prove your own point? Exactly. Like it's a self-fulfilling prophecy at that point. Exactly. Yeah. Oh god. I mean, honestly, I feel bad. But both of them in a way, you know? It's like, but he is making the right move by getting out of it. And sometimes the chemistry of like two people, like that is just like a bad situation. Like I've not been perfect in relationships either. And just that chemistry is often. Sometimes you have two people that don't. It's just like, it's like the volcano experiment like Big Soda and the like Vinegar. Yeah, exactly. It's just like, this is not my best. And I don't know. We don't know. You're like, I'm not bringing my brain. I'm bringing my hydrogen peroxide. Yeah, exactly. We don't know their ages, but I do think it sounds like. Like she sounds very young. Yeah. Maybe she's not, but she's coming across. I'm glad that she's in therapy. Yes. But I'm sure the therapist would probably be glad to know, like, hey, yeah, that relationship should not be happening. Like, especially if this is the type of behavior she's eliciting. But I'm hopeful, like, you know, like if she genuinely puts work in, which it sounds like she needs to still do. But you won't ever find that like answer to like, am I unlovable in another person? Nope. Like you got a like a RuPaul, which is RuPaul say. You got to love yourself first. How the hell you're going to love somebody else? Yeah, exactly. If you don't love yourself and like that's 100% it is like, if you don't find the reasons why you would fall in love with you, like it's just never, it's going to be an endless source of failed relationships. Right. Yeah, right. Um, well, I hope for the best for both of them. Same. And they will. But I'm, yeah. They will. I'm very optimistic. If they didn't work, they will. Right. All right. Moving on to our last story. Wow. This comes from relationship advice. Comes from 2022. I, a 25 year old woman, begged my partner, a 28 year old man for an open relationship. Eight months in, he left for another woman. Oh, someone else. Oh, this is the painter. So I have read so many stories on Reddit. We don't read a lot of these types of ones here, but I have read so many stories and heard so many stories about, um, Holly, people in monogamous relationships, asking for poly relationships, and then it backfiring on them. Yes. I've heard about that so much. It's also similar. There are so many stories on Reddit about people having three sums and then the aftermath of it. And it's, they are crazy stories. This is a wild one to end with. This is nuts. Eight months ago, I, a 25 year old woman, asked my partner, a 28 year old man, for an open relationship, as I got bored with him. Oh. Nothing wrong, but he just didn't excite me much. And he agreed, but he proceeded to tell me there's a catch. If he catches feelings for a partner, he's going to leave me for her. Oh. Oh. This is it. This is like a... Yeah, it's like a... What? Yeah, you wouldn't do this? Yeah, you wouldn't... You wouldn't fuck someone else? Yeah, and then if I fuck someone real good, I wouldn't fuck them. Just... So he said, if he catches feelings for a partner, he's going to leave me for her. And that's exactly what happened. What the hell he said? It was going to happen. And she was born, but... And she continues, I want him back in my arms. He left me for his new partner. What can I do to win the love of my life back? Time machine, baby. Love the life. Time machine. Love me your life, I thought he'd board you. Who's fucking boring, dude? Look, man, that's not the only reason. That's not a reason to get into an open relationship. Like, that come on, man. Wait, that's the whole thing? So that's... I will say there's an update. Oh, okay. But that's the main story. What do we talk about? That is the post. Okay, so she posted that, right? So she posted that, right? Like, guys, guys... I was born. I was born, so I wanted to open a relationship. So I will open a relationship. And then I told you exactly what would happen and come in. And he didn't do anything. Hold the move on him to be like, well, all right. Because I've also heard of people requesting to open a relationship, but they have different rules of like, you can't go on more than one date with a person. So it's like, basically, like, you have an open door to do, like, one night stand. From what I know of people who have open relationships, is it is like, you... Everything is an agreed upon thing. Exactly. You have to really lay it out. But it's also the people that I know that are... that it seems to be working with. It's like, they got... They both got into a poly relationship. Yeah, it was like that was from the get-go. To be on the Nogamous relationship and then be like, let's open our relationship. That does not work. It's... Yeah. At least for anecdotally, for everyone I know. Same. That I'm like, no, one of you wanted to cheat. Or you were already cheating. And this is your way into it. Just into it. No, it's one of be poly. I think you need to end your relationship and go bond a poly relationship. On even grounds. Yeah. But like, to go from a Nogamous to poly, both of you probably have different ideas of it. You're both going into a new thing to, like, at the same time. Your ideas of it are so different. You're starting a new relationship. Yeah. And then it didn't work out. This new type of relationship didn't work for you. Yeah, I've never explored open relationship. Cloudy and I are Nogamous. But we've had this conversation a lot. Not just to, like, go through the exercise, right? Just to be like, what would that be like if we did that? Exactly, exactly. And to me, it's like, it's not even like... If we're doubling the relationship, it's double the work. I think it's like exponential. I think it's like, if I... If we were to have an open relationship, it's not double the work. It's almost like triple the work. Because it's like, yeah, it's just exponentially. The communication needs to go. The dynamics between all the different things. The like, nights out. Like, there's a lot involved. That there's like a social responsibility in those dynamics. To put a lot of work into it. It's a massive change. And if you're making that change, it's got to be like, oh, this is something so deep in me. Yeah. That this is who I am and this is what I want. Not just, oh, I got bored by a partner. I got bored by a partner. It sounds like that. Yeah. It does sound fun. In fluffy, you know? Sure. It's like, oh, yeah, I get to smooch the cuties over there. And the home to my love of my life. Exactly. And it's not nice and beautiful. Yeah, it's not nice and beautiful. But if you really think about it, it's complex and soft. Ah, okay. See, I have too much anxiety for that shit. I'm like, oh, same. Yeah. I just think it's like, what, Claudio and I have, like, with us being together in our love is like, I just love it so much. That is like an hour or two of playtime, really worth all that extra hubbub to like make that worth it. I'm like, well, no. And if I'm bored, maybe in like our sex life or whatever, that's a conversation to have with my partner first before I go exploring. So like, if she was bored in the bedroom, like, talk about it. She's also blaming, she's like, I got bored with him. And it's like, hey, that's a thing. Yeah. But this is how you're solving it. It's like, and it's like, it's exactly. Your bored with him, that may not be just him. That's you two together. Yeah. That's a dynamic. There was a really interesting, I forget, it was in a book I read about like, you know, when you've been together for years upon years, like, you have to find a way to continue the narrative. Yes. Right, because when you're single and you're dating, it's like, whoa, it's exciting elements. Like, whoa, yeah. And that's, that's, she's looking for a rush. Yeah. That she'll get from meeting new people. Exactly. But that rush will end too. Exactly. She's treating it like a drug where it's like, you can find that rush. Exactly. Yeah. But you have to work on that together. And that's the creativity communication, like maybe a sex therapist. Yeah. Like, these things work. Totally. They take time and focus. Yeah. But she made a, she made a brash, massive decision, not considering the ramification. I just love that he was like, I will leave you if I catch the crazy move that you did it. Do you think he thought like that'll get her to not open up the relationship? I think he, to me, it feels like he almost broke up then and there. Yeah. Right. Like he was like, this relationship's over. Go hunting for someone else. Comments. Comments. Not gonna lie, that's the ultimate reverse card for this situation. Big ups, your ex. Opie, Opie said, really? No. Um. He said exactly what he was gonna do. Someone said, ha ha, good for him. Get a therapist to help you work on yourself so you learn to end an unhealthy relationship instead of pretending to be poly. Opie said, I've been in and out of therapy for at least a year now. Someone said, yes, really, you played yourself. He didn't excite you so you asked for an open relationship and now you want him back when he caught feelings for someone else. While in the open relationship that you asked for in the first place. You only have yourself to blame for this one. You should stay single for a while and grow up. I don't want to be single. I want to prove to my boyfriend I can be better now. Um. Sure. All right. It's too late. Update. Oh. Probably nobody asked for this but here's an update. It's so aggressive. Probably nobody asked for this. The way that this person writes is. Probably nobody asked for this. Hey. I was kicked out of his house last Sunday. That's six days now and I excruciatingly miss him. I will do anything to get him to return to me but he looks happy on social media with his new partner that I'm pretty sure he was cheating on me with. Um. But you were open. You were in an open relationship. Anyways, I tried calling him no answer. I saw him in public and he pretend to not even know who the fuck I was. He won't acknowledge my existence so I went to our former place just to talk and things got hostile. His new girlfriend hates me for some reason. I didn't even know her and she proceeded to try and attack me while he tried to split us up and get me out the door. When he had his back turned she maced me. And now what? And now he's trying to file a restraining order on me. The hell did I do wrong? She attacked me and pepper sprayed me. Didn't you show up at their house? Yes. She did. How can I convince him he's dating a psychopath? What? Uh-oh. Jerry. Jerry. Jerry. Oh my god. That's embarrassing. Is this real? It's probably not but. I know of these types of situations. I know of these anecdotally. Yes. Not of showing up and getting pepper sprayed but of the open relationship turned into regret into classic story. I'm sorry. Yeah. Turn it classic. Comments. You got what you wanted and if anyone sounds like a psychopath it's you who was stalking their ex, seek some mental health or do some interreflection but most importantly leave the man alone and move on. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hopefully they can call you out on your shit because like... And bring it back home, bro. That, like, yeah, if it's getting to, like, legal, to mace, to, like, separating, like, that woman also in the relationship with your ex had nothing to do with this. She was exploring a relationship that I hope he was, like, open and honest about being open to. That's... There's no reason to go after her, either. Yeah. This is a delusional person, if they're real. If they're real. You need to leave him alone. This isn't going to end well for you. Oh, he responded, I can't walk away until this is fixed. Uh-oh. Walk away? No, not. Someone said, and if it was an open relationship, then how was it cheating? She says, because he left me within eight months, that's way too fast. Eight months is two quarters, two fiscal quarters. That is a very long time. Okay. Update number two. Oh! Here we go again! This will probably be the last update. The restraining order has been... Okay. Me too! Thank you, Queen. We love that. The restraining order has been filled, and I am not allowed within a hundred feet of my ex-Harry and his new girlfriend, Jess. I'm planning to move back to my home in Arizona and start over. They're happy, and I just want to find peace with myself. Thanks for everyone's advice and opinions. Yes, I was already in therapy, and I am still in therapy. Please, anyone my age or younger listen to my advice. TikTok is not cool. Please delete it. It's done me nothing but harm, and other people's stupidity can really poison your minds in living proof. Thank you, take care. I'm starting to go back to thinking this is real, and this is a person who is very like... They've lost their minds. Yeah, they lost a plot. So OP in the comments alluded that TikTok was the reason she wanted an open relationship. She saw some stuff talking about it. So this is a very immature... Wait, wait, wait, you're telling me. Everything on TikTok... Is not... Oh, it's not to be trusted. Oh, it's not to be trusted. You tell me that... What? Is this sort of misinformation? You're telling me all the people that are poly on TikTok may not be on to something? Update number three. Don't! Let's go! Let's go! So this is two years later. Can I make it? Can I make an assumption that she's going to open it up with like, nagging herself about doing an update? Like, guys, I can't believe it. I'm like, literally no one asked for this bot. It's been two years. I've tried to stay offline and live life, but my ex and his now wife find new ways to live in my head, rent-free. I wanted an open relationship. So what? You don't just string me along for eight months, get some new girl who you met through me, and then marry her. She's... This isn't fair. She's living in my home with someone who should be my husband. And he's been renewing the restraining order ever since it first expired. And I know he's going to keep doing it because for reasons beyond my knowledge, the man hates me. FML. Dude, this is live. Dude, this is live. She's doing it. Two years later. Oh my god. This is what he's doing it. Guys, I fear this is real. I fear this is real. Oh, for some reason. And I will also say, the way this is written has me like, this person is typing this not like, they're just going off. Oh, this is bad. I'm scared for the husband and wife. This is beyond entitled. This is there in a different world. They're living on a different planet, and it's unfortunate. Two years later. Oh, man. What kind of therapy? I think the on and on, I've been in on and off therapy for, I think that like might say it too, because it's like on and off when you're leaving a therapist as soon as they call you out on something. Exactly. That would be a thing. That would be a thing. Right. That would be a thing. Yikes. Oh god. Take, take, take the hint. I don't know. It's been two years. I don't know. I don't know what the hint's going to stick. I don't know what you would do. Also, like, did they, did she not meet anyone nice when she was open? Like, I find it so hard to be so sprung, like, when he's clearly moved on. I don't know. The story that I've heard on Reddit that is one of my favorite stories is a person writes in about their parents. And what happens is their parents are in their like 50s. The dad wants an open relationship. So they begin to have an open relationship. He does, he starts sleeping with his secretary, who he clearly had already been sleeping with. Yeah. And then the mom just starts sleeping with tons of dudes. I love it. And the dad loses his mind and then the mom leaves him. And the dad, like, then the secretary left him. And it just, like, plays out just horrendously for the dad. Yeah. I am always amazed. I mean, this person is, this is scary. But I'm always amazed at people who cheat and do so much horrible stuff and then are blown away and cannot handle when their partner leaves them. I'm like, wait, you thought you were allowed to just make all these mistakes and do all these horrible things and treat your partner so horribly. And the second that they choose themselves, you can't handle it. And they often can't handle it for years. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because I think like, when you're in that position, you're not even thinking of the consequences or you're rationalizing why this can be totally okay. Like, Ned, try guys, pod cap. Like, that's the kind of situation you're like looking into. And it's like, it's just already gone once you like disconnected from like the reality. Yeah. Yeah. Ooh. Wow. Yeah. Well, that's all our stories. Wow. That was great. That was really solid. I think we did good here. I feel really good about this. I think it's good work here. Yeah. I think you're going to get an Emmy for this. Yeah. Yeah, let's get an Emmy. We're going to get an Egon for this. Yeah, a friend link can. Right? We got nominated or something. We can. 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