You are now tuning in to Discover Your Potential. So listen, participate, be inspired, know that you can Discover Your Potential. We did, I did a book called The Jane Effect with another colleague 10 years ago for her 80th birthday and time just evaporates as you well know. And last March in 2023, it blows my mind, it's 2024 now. Jane was in Denver so we hung out a lot and just driving home one night after seeing Jane and having a good shot of Scotch because she does like, she calls it her cough medicine. Oh, I love her. The idea came to me to do it. So I sat down and I started figuring it out and Coon Margot who is the co-editor and he and I run the Jane Goodall Institute Ethics Committee. So we co-chair it and I've worked with Coon for years and I just said, you want to do it? And I mean it wasn't even a millisecond until he said yes. So we sat down, we put a list together, we worked with Mary Lewis who's one of Jane's closest friends and executive vice president and and so she helped us too and we filed the list and it was her 90th birthday. It was going to be her 90th birthday. She turned 89 right after I saw her and we decided we wanted 90 essays and we call them 90 candles. On her cake. And it all worked out. I mean, in all honesty, when you put a book together like this, it's hard and we regrettably missed one or two people who were in the other book. But it was great to do. The enthusiasm among the contributors was palpable and contagious. I mean, no, seriously, it was unbelievable. We kept it as a surprise and so from about April till December, which would have been, you know, give it, take seven months or no, it would have been nine months. We told everybody we contacted. We said, this is a secret book. Don't tell Jane, fine. And then in December, we were getting emails and you know, they were honest errors. One was an email about the book that was copied to somebody who was not part of the book. Oh, I hope you had like my essay. I was going to ask some other people and you know, on the one hand, I wanted to say can you read English and we told you not to share. So what we did was right around New Year's, Coon and Tom Mangelson and Mary Lewis and I did a Zoom with Jane and we gave her basically the last set of proofs. You know, they looked a lot like the book, but there was still some work to be done. And we couched the Zoom as if we were going to talk about an ethics issue that the Jane Goodall Institute would be dealing with. So Jane was shocked. We sent a copy of the book to her sister with whom she lives when she's in Bournemouth in southern England when she's home. And we sat down and Judy was there, her sister. And you know, Jane just, I mean, she thought we were going to be discussing ethics and I said, okay, Judy, you want to give Jane that package? So Jane unwrapped it while we were there and took it out. She had what I call that loving Jane Goodall smile and had no idea about the book. But I was born in Brooklyn, New York, so there's not a lot of wildlife around except for the people. Right? Right. But I used to talk to all the animals in the neighborhood, say hello to the birds and cats and the dogs and the mice and the ants and my parents really supported that. And I wrote a book called Minding Animals that was published in 2002, which really blows my mind because it seems like it was yesterday and it was called Minding Animals. And it came from talks I had with my folks saying, I always minded animals. I attributed minds to them. Yeah, I was always asking what an animal was thinking or feeling and minding in terms of caring for them. Yeah, I mean, my parents really supported me. My mom read to me a lot. And as far as I could determine from talking to her, a lot of what she read and you know, this was, it wasn't pre TV, but there wasn't ID TV. Right, right. David Attenborough and all the other, you know, nature films. No, it was really something that I just felt. I could feel their emotions. And so my path to where I am now is extremely nonlinear. But nobody who knew me, if you will, back then or around back then is surprised that I'm doing what I do. Mmm. Sometime in the 90s, I think, I may have met her before at a meeting, but she came to Boulder because we, she came to Boulder to do an event. And I had been emailing with her because I had asked her to write the forward for an encyclopedia of animal rights and animal welfare that I did. And, and I said, I'd like to meet you. And she said, fine. And I think Mary was with her. And it turns out she was staying at, she, once she was in Boulder, she stayed at the home of a common friend. I would have, I mean, I knew this guy for years, I used to race bicycles and he was big in that and stuff. So that was the first time we met and spent a good deal of time in person because she was a Ram Boulder for a while. And that would have been late 90s. So within a number of years, we decided to do our book that we did together, The Ten Trusts. And stuff. And then, and I was the ethics committee for a long time. Okay. What do you think about this? But I don't mean that in a superficial way. Jane is, Jane is extremely conscientious and and dots every I and crosses every T. And it was 16 teen ages working on the beaches outside of Dar es Salaam in Tanzania, which Jane has a, so has a home there. And I was really focused on generating respect and compassion for animals, people and the environment, which is eight. I think today there's, I mean, it's in countries and, you know, there's thousands of probably thousands of groups around. That's really, I mean, it's hard to say what would be one of her favorite activities. But, but I think Ruth and she all shoots us among them. And just teaching that next generation of young people that same compassion. Yeah, I'm working with youngsters. It's, it's, it's really morphed into refugee camps, senior citizen homes. I've been teaching at the Boulder County Jail. It was stopped by COVID for 18 or 20 years. Yeah. And, and it really is based on that, you know, our shared homes with other animals. But what I love about it is there's a, there's a big movement now called the One Health Movement, which is so, which, which focuses on the fact that the well-being of non-human animals, nature is very tied into our well-being. And James, James has been pushing that message for years. We really are interested about animal well-being and, and, and environmental well-being, earth well-being, if you know. Exactly. He's deeply shared and, and really overlaps. Yeah. Well, that theme emerged in the book, not necessarily from me and Coon, but well, I mean, everybody knows she's very serious. They know she's a wonderful giving woman. Some of the photos in the book, like Jane sitting in the bathtub drinking Scotch, saying that she's a prairie dog. Yeah, that one struck me too. And, and, and, and actually, Jane has said in a number of different interviews, people, a lot of people don't know that she has a remarkable sense of humor. Exactly. And, and it's hard to know though, because, you know, I mean, because I've traveled with her, I've been to her talks, we've hung out just, you know, the two of us are a small group. But, you know, when she's on the road, like she is now, I got to do a really brief phone conversation over FaceTime or whatever it's called, because there was a woman there and she called me and she was next to Jane. She knows Jane. And we did a brief phone conversation on this past Monday night, two days before her 90th birthday. 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And her book The Chimpanzees of Gombe, I mean although there's been tons of research subsequently, it's still a classic science book. Saltwater Media is the self-publishing company that did it. And as I said, we came to them because they did, their books are lovely, but they did too for people I know, one of whom was a very close friend. But I, you know, they could go through saltwater, but you know, the reason I send people to Amazon is it's just easier to do. So all the major public outlets have it, and it's selling quite well. I mean, well, no, I mean, you know, you never know. I mean, you know, I mean, I always tell people because I've done a lot of books, you know, sometimes the books that you love the most are slow to take off, and sometimes the books that you never pass it about a book, because it's a life, you know, it's like a marriage while you're writing a book. Right. Sometimes you go, wow, that's doing better than I thought it would. But what's great about the book too is there's a lot of notables in there, you know, who have written essays. And to me, it's just so wonderful to see people in different walks of life coming in from different, if you will, fields of interest, palming in on Jane as a hopeful monster, if you will, and always being out there being positive, then she's not always positive, nobody could be, but really, really living by, you know, the bumper stickers that every individual can make a difference. She really believes that. I know. And that is always hope. And, you know, sometimes I myself pick up the book or other things I've done with Jane, and I go, there's hope, huh? I appreciate it with all my heart. This is Cindy Gilman, and you're listening to Discover Your Potentials. So until next time, do something nice for yourself, but do something nice for someone else.
