Robert Kraft, Christian Gonzalez Thoughts // Tidal Locking - 4/3 (Hour 2)
43 min
•Apr 3, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
This episode of Felger & Massarotti covers Patriots contract negotiations with cornerback Christian Gonzalez and quarterback Drake May, alongside an extended discussion about tidal locking and the moon's synchronous rotation. The hosts debate Robert Kraft's comments on salary cap constraints, analyze rule changes across major sports, and field caller questions about lunar science.
Insights
- Robert Kraft's emphasis on salary cap limitations in contract discussions signals the Patriots may prioritize budget constraints over player retention, potentially affecting negotiations with elite players like Christian Gonzalez
- Player loyalty statements are often strategic positioning for contract negotiations rather than genuine commitment, with agents and market forces driving outcomes more than team affiliation
- Major sports rule changes (shot clock, illegal contact rules, goalie equipment restrictions) have profound long-term impacts on game dynamics and scoring that take years or decades to fully manifest
- Tidal locking is a complex phenomenon that requires visual demonstration rather than verbal explanation to achieve audience comprehension
- The far side of the moon represents unexplored scientific territory that could answer fundamental questions about solar system history that Earth's geological processes have obscured
Trends
NFL contract strategy shifting toward earlier signings before market escalation, with salary cap management as primary constraintSports rule modernization driving increased scoring and pace of play (pitch clock in MLB, three-point emphasis in NBA, reduced goalie equipment in NHL)Renewed public interest in space exploration and lunar science, particularly regarding Artemis missions and far-side moon researchPlayer agent sophistication increasing, with major agencies like CAA using business-first approach rather than hometown loyalty narrativesPost-lockout sports rule packages proving effective when implemented comprehensively across multiple rule changes simultaneously
Topics
NFL Salary Cap Management and Contract TimingChristian Gonzalez Contract NegotiationsDrake May Contract StrategyPlayer Loyalty vs. Market MaximizationTidal Locking and Lunar Synchronous RotationMoon's Far Side ExplorationArtemis II MissionMLB Pitch Clock ImpactNBA Three-Point Line EvolutionNHL Post-Lockout Rule ChangesNFL Illegal Contact Rules (1978)Sports Rule Changes and Game EvolutionRed Sox Opening Day PerformanceU.S. Men's National Team World Cup PreparationMoon Landing Authenticity
Companies
New England Patriots
Primary focus of contract negotiation discussion regarding Christian Gonzalez and Drake May signings
CAA (Creative Artists Agency)
Christian Gonzalez's representation agency, indicating professional business-first approach to contract negotiations
Las Vegas Raiders
Mentioned as potential trade destination for Max Crosby, discussed in context of contract value and cap implications
Baltimore Ravens
Referenced regarding Max Crosby trade scenario and AJ Brown contract precedent
NASA
Source of information about tidal locking, lunar rotation, and Artemis II mission details
People
Robert Kraft
Discussed contract philosophy emphasizing salary cap constraints over player retention priorities
Christian Gonzalez
Primary subject of contract negotiation discussion; cornerstone defensive player with uncertain contract status
Drake May
Discussed as young player whose contract timing strategy reflects broader NFL salary cap management trends
Mike Raebel
Mentioned as decision-maker for contract negotiations alongside Elliot Wolfe
Elliot Wolfe
Mentioned as decision-maker for contract negotiations alongside Mike Raebel
Max Crosby
Discussed as potential trade candidate with $30M+ annual salary creating cap constraints
AJ Brown
Referenced as example of high-contract player ($30M+ base) unavailable to Patriots due to cap limitations
Trevor Story
Discussed for poor pitch selection during Red Sox opening day performance
Michael King
Mentioned for effective slider pitch execution against Trevor Story during opening day
Bob Gibson
Referenced for historic 1.12 ERA in 1968 that prompted MLB mound height rule change
Ernie Grunfeld
Mentioned as early three-point shooter during 1979-1980 NBA season when three-point line was introduced
Bo Jackson
Guest who discussed hitting flagpole home run, told entertaining tall tales about baseball exploits
Neil Armstrong
Referenced for hitting seven iron on moon during Apollo 11 mission, demonstrating low-gravity physics
Reed Weissman
Artemis II commander quoted regarding unexplored far-side moon craters and scientific discovery potential
Quotes
"We have a salary cap, so we have a limit, so we have to think what's best for the team in terms of timing of the signing"
Robert Kraft•Opening segment
"That comment was slightly ominous. The answer isn't 'the player is really important to us.' The answer is 'we have a salary cap.'"
Host analysis•Post-Kraft discussion
"The entire surface of the moon is a history record of the solar system in a way the earth surface is not"
NASA expert (quoted)•Tidal locking segment
"60% of the far side that we have never been seen before with human eyes"
Reed Weissman, Artemis II Commander•Moon exploration discussion
"The moon goes around the earth in 29 days. The moon spins once in 29 days. So because those numbers are the same, we always see one side"
Eric, astrophysicist caller•Lightning round
Full Transcript
Robert, is there a mindset when it comes to the contracts of some of your better great players, meaning Christian Gonzalez, Drake May, trying to get ahead of the curve there and trying to sign them before, you know, as we see these contracts escalate and escalate and escalate, do you have a philosophy about that? Well, we always try, we have a sour cap, so we have a limit, so we have to think what's best for the team in terms of timing of the signing and of course the earlier you do it, it's believed it's more economically satisfactory, but we leave that to Mike Raebel, Elliot Wolfe and our people making the contract decisions. We're lucky to have those two players and I hope and believe they'll be with us for the long term. It's hour number two, Felder Mascher on a gender-free Friday, everything's on the board. Anything from the week, any of the four sports, you want to go a little bit into space, you can, Red Sox opening day, so we'll let it out a little bit, Mas, why are you smirking? I'm smirking because Michael King just threw the same pitch to Trevor's story three times in a row and he swung and missed it all three, which was a slider away, just no chance. Some of the pitches that guy swings at, almost as hard to figure out as title locking. Oh my gosh, seriously. What makes you think you can hit that pitch? No, because now that you mentioned it, actually all I ever see is Trevor's story is back, walking back to the dugout. That's exactly it, title locking for crying out loud, holy crap, what are you swinging at those for? Wow. Robert Kraft from the owners meetings, which I think was a, you know, just because we put it through the Felder Masch translator, I think that comment was slightly ominous. We have a salary cap, like that's just a tell, you know, right there that he's the answer isn't. The player is really important to us and we make sure every, we do everything we can to make sure he's a patriot for life. The answer is we have a salary cap. It should absolutely sound bells. Absolutely. And that, you know, is it's by bells. I mean alarms. No, but it's subtle, but it tells you they're thinking their budget first and the player second and they're certainly not the only team that feels that way. But I think that tells you the tenor of the negotiations and where they are. And if you think they're going to resign, Christian Gonzalez this offseason, I think that, and again, it's subtly, I read into a little bit, but that's how I read that. And that would not be good news. The question to me, so I just believe and listen, if they sign on, you know, and my instincts will be wrong. But if they're right and they're not really close, now the next question is how does Gonzalez respond to it? Offseason, the offseason workout program begins later this month. It's not voluntary. So it's not, he's not officially holding out. If you don't show up for that thing, he's obviously still in the area because that is not mandatory. It's not mandatory. I don't know what you said. Volunteer, you're not mandatory. It's not mandatory. So, you know, whether guys have beef with the team, some guys don't show up, some guys are there for some parts, some not the others, or they work out on their own. It's, there's nothing, you know, unusual about a guy missing parts of the voluntary workout program, except the team wants him to be there. You're encouraged to be there. You're celebrated and in some cases rewarded if you're there with workout bonuses. And he's in the area where he was the other night for the Celtics game. So that'll be the next thing with Christian's Alice is, uh, how does he respond to the fact that it's not coming? There's also that fifth year rookie option, which they're eligible to give them and they will be giving it to them. Very able pretty much guaranteed that the other day. I want, do we know when that deadline is? Uh, no, let me see if I can find, I don't think so. I mean, they're obviously going to do it. It's just a matter of when that deadline is and that's when they're going to do it. But that's one of the things that we've been talking about this week, 6177790985. Back to your phones. Max and I'm sorry, Matt is in the truck. Go ahead, Matt. Yeah, Felga, the moon is like a knuckleball. It doesn't spin, but it flies. Apparently it does spin. Go ahead. So I got a thought on Max Crosby. I know he's a distress asset. Probably not going to be moving from the greatest, but I so desperately want to see him against the Ravens in a December game where he's just like Forest Whitaker and fast times at Ridgemont High with fulmin at the mouth. Like, is there anybody you think that could pick him up that could be an exciting match for him and the weird dimension where he falls in the Patriots? No. Well, I mean, I guess he could. He's back with the Raiders and they accepted two first round picks before. Would they do it again? Maybe. Uh, do you think that's even a possibility for the Patriots? No, no, not them. Could I see someone else giving up something less? In other words, you know, I don't think they're getting too first again. I think that's gone. Even if you think the patch would give up a first in a second, go to the money. No way. He makes real big. I don't know what it is. It's probably north of 30 million a year. It's right around 30. There's probably big guarantees in there. So we're just talking about, you know, if they do nothing, will they sign Gonzalez? I don't think so. Do they have the money for AJ Brown? I don't think so. Not unless something goes out the door. Yeah, he's set to earn 30 million base in 2026. Now you're going to add another 30 on top of that. You still got to pay me next year. Forget about it. It's a money thing. I mean, honestly, the Ravens overpaid for him the first time and then they came to their senses. They're going to take on the contract and give up two first round picks. No way. No shot. AJ and Dorchester on the baseball. Go ahead, AJ. I hate to interrupt the science at NASA over there. But yeah, my take on the MOB is that there's just too many games. I've been thinking with the pitch clock, ABS, whatnot, what would be best for the game is to make the schedule 82 games or something around that. Oh yeah. No, that'll definitely they'll definitely do that. AJ, what, why would you suggest something so unrealistic? Well, yeah, I know it's not going to happen, but I just think it'd be good for the game of each game was more consequential to stand and what not. I mean, yeah, I know it won't happen, but it's an interesting idea. It's also it's just not going to happen. Yeah, no, the answer to that is 281 game seasons and you play him as half seasons and then you start over again and then the playoffs come from the teams that that, you know, win one half or the other, you win them both, you get a buy something like that. So that's the answer. And look, I even think you could whittle away some regular season games and add more playoffs like there are, you know, you bounce it out that way and the revenue actually comes out ahead. The stats count over 162. So all the individual records still hold like something like that. People want to try and explain this. The title title, title locking the title locking to me. Give it a shot. Let's see. Jane Florida says the moon stuff is easy. Okay. All right. Tell us how make it easy, Jay. I thought on the cross pile, the crater part, why the moon rotates, it got bombarded the same amount of either side. The far side of the moon has a thicker crust. So when it hit on the near side, when things were hit on the near side, the lava would be able to come up into the eons. This is right. Moved out. It's moved out those craters. That's I'm gonna put them on. I read this this morning too that the, the near side, the near side is glossier and like a lake because it was lava that then sort of smoothed out and that's why you have that. And the far side, I mean, I go ahead, Jay, quickly, thicker crust. It's like that. It's delicious. Yeah. But, but, but, but if it rotates, why, but okay, but if it rotates, why does, why would one side have a different topography? Like, wait, why would the be, why would it be crustier on the far side? Well, I don't, I don't think the earth, why are the mountains and the Rockies and then the middle of the country, there's the, the plains and you think you can grow things. So I said this yesterday. It's like the West Coast. It's just, it's topographically, it's different. It's not necessarily a result of, you know, again, you, you go out West, it's the landscape in the out West is incredible in this country, but you don't have any of the landscape in the east. But the reading, what I've read and what I've read to you implies that it was subjected to the bombardment zone where the near side was not subjected to the bombardment zone. But he, well, he also explained though that the crust had something to do with that. That delicious cookie crust. Both basins date back again, there's two massive basins on the far side that will be really seeing for the first time, both basins date back about four billion years to a period known as the late heavy bombardment. I don't know why you laugh. The stuff crossed when a large number of asteroids are referred to a section of my 20s dry spell. I'll go up for a heavy bombardment then it was prepared. They were peppering both the moon and the earth. One theory of how life started is that the first seeds of existence arrived on these asteroids during the heavy bombardment period. Evidence of these rocky lifeboats could still be lurking in the craters on the far side of the moon. I think that's so freaking cool. But I don't know if the thing rotates. I don't Rajiv. Go ahead Rajiv in California. Try it. Hey, I admit the earlier explanation, but the one that the guy gave that it rotates, the moon rotates at 24 hours is completely incorrect. The earth, you know, a day on earth is 24 hours. A day on the moon is 27 days, but that just happens to be that its orbital rotation is the same as 27 days across. So that's why it doesn't do it for me. That right Rajiv. How do you expect me to understand? Like I can't wrap my head around that. I don't know. See you, you're smart. Smart. Yeah, you're smart. If they're both spinning. Well, they're not spinning at the same rate. So what do you mean? So so and also one of them's moving. The moon is moving. It orbits around physically demonstrate to me. I can't. How? When I say we only see what I say. When I say we only see one side of the moon. I'm not talking about Boston. I'm talking about Auckland, New Zealand. I'm talking about Beijing. I'm talking about Boston. I'm talking about Billings. I'm talking about everywhere, which is around circle only sees one half of another circle when they're both spinning around each other because one demonstrate it because one is I just didn't you work. No, you didn't. Okay. Here's one. Here's the other. Okay. This one's moving faster. This one's moving slower, but they're both spinning and this thing's turning. And there's still you got that Murray. Huh? Am I right? I mean, I'm just watching. Nope. You have no idea. Yeah, that showed nothing. Both of my fingers are facing each other. You're gonna have to get go get an apple or something. Both of my hands are moving. Go get a ball. Go get a ball into it. Oh, you know what? There's a couple of tennis balls, I think by show. My apartment. I'll go grab show me by my apartment. We'd you rather do this or Vin in New Hampshire, the cash to cap discussion. But that's another one that I love. No, this one's hard to understand. No, this one's easy. Go ahead, Vin. What do you got? If the crafts are going to continue to balance their budget to the cap, they should consider extending the measurement period instead of three years, do four or five that way, say they go $40 million over in year one. Right. They've got four years to balance that out. The period's too short. So, you know, there's a reason Vin, right? Why? Why is it? They want them to smooth it out over three years. I don't know. Maybe because the league measures it in three years. Right. They measure the floor. You have to be right. 90% percent. You can go way over, but you have to be at the floor at certain. So maybe that's what they've they've that's their title locking that they've synced up. I mean, it's all arbitrary. I mean, because the, you know, the players don't want to get screwed out of money. So they don't want, you know, every three years, you've got to come in at least 90% of what the cap is. So if they go to five years, you can, you know, give less money to the players in the shorter term. Chris and Salem for Murray. Now, listen, hold on. If you're going to do this, no, no, I want you to take a marker and put spots on each ball. What is it? These balls have labels. I'm sorry. These balls have labels. Yeah. If these balls could talk. No, I'm not doing this. You're going to practice it in the break and then you'll come back and explain it to me real quick. Chris and Salem for Murray. Go ahead, Chris. These moon segments are a strong argument to only talk about sports on this show. So Mike, you have to see it to understand it. I texted a video to Murray. He can show it to you, but here is a quote directly from NASA.gov. The moon is rotating at the same rate that it revolves around Earth, which is called synchronous rotation. I've read all this. So the same, yeah. So the same hand is your face is Earth at all times. Explaining it isn't enough. I sent a video to Murray that illustrates it. Right. I have to see it. I've read all this title locking and it spins at the same rate. And but that, that, that doesn't explain Beijing. I can see why one part of the earth only sees one part of the moon. That makes total sense to me. I don't get how all of the earth only sees one part of the moon because it's not just us Boston. It's not Kenmore Square only sees one part of the moon. No, Kenmore Square and Tiananmen Square clear on the other side of the sphere sees the exact same thing only sees one half of it. You got to admit that's kind of a mind bleep. I have to take a break because my head's starting to hurt. Don't go anywhere. I still have cap space available for any big moves if you want to make them. I do a lot of things. Focus on cap space is not one of them. I don't, you know, I mean, we've been Robert and Jonathan have given us all the resources that we've needed since I've been here to sign players. The amazing facility that we just moved into last Monday. So I'll let Elliott and Ryan and Richard and Matt grow focus on the cap space. Cash to cap and title locking on the moon. You, you, Boston, you are, you're subjected to my personal health. This is, these are the stuff and the things that rattle around in my brain. Unfortunately for you. This is like a high intellect show today. That's not high intellect. It's just the things I'm interested in. The, the Patriots doping everyone on the salary cap and the real economics of the NFL and this moon stuff. What can I tell you? Maz is getting me to understand this title locking thing. Thank you. The visualization, the tennis ball, visualization got me the, the, the videos that that guy sent Murray. No, not, not good enough. They're just not good enough. It doesn't really do it. It doesn't show me closeups enough of the moon and the earth to show me exactly how that's sinking up. But Maz kind of did it. Thank you. Hey, I don't know. I'm just passing along the message, man. I didn't even watch it. Mary's in Manchester on the Patriots. Hi, Mary. Hi, Mike. Hi guys. Before I get to my take, I just want to say that the, the moon talk yesterday that when I was in the car and you gave us those 22 minutes, it was so interesting. Thank you, Mary. But I don't get it either. But with respect to the Patriots, I'm, I'm bugged that they haven't sealed the deal with Christian Gonzalez because I think that he is a real loyal player to the team. I think he, I'm paraphrasing, but I think he said something to the effect that, you know, this is the team that drafted me. I want to stay with the team. And I thought he was one of the only standout players in the Super Bowl. So I really want them to resign him. And I thought this whole chiseling, the players was going to be over when Belichick left. So Mary, thanks for the call. I agree with one of your statements. I don't know about the other. He stood out in the Super Bowl and he stood out as the season got longer and the stakes were raised. He stood out, which to me, I always like, I think that's kind of a tell on these big time corners. They should, you know, tie law. Definitely. You go through portions of the season where you're like, this guy going to do anything. And then the big games, he was there and the ball found them and that sort of thing. So I think that's, that was what tends to happen with these elite guys. So I think, you know, that Christian Gonzalez sort of passed that test this past year. You view him as a loyal player. I don't know. Yeah, go ahead. No, I don't buy any of that stuff. They all say that. So I was just punching up. Where's he from? He's from Texas. Okay. So like you want to say a guy has loyalty to his hometown or something like, and even then I'll tell you it's bull crap most of the time. They have loyalty to who's going to pay him the most is what they have. So like, you know, he'll say all the right things to try to put pressure on the Patriots. That's what that is. I mean, he might be Mary. I just don't know where you would get that from. I just because he said after the game, of course, I want to say this is the place that drafted me. Well, it's also the only one that can pay him right now. So it's smart for him to, you know, express his loyalty here and praise the Patriots. If, you know, until he proves otherwise, I'm going to think that all these guys are trying to maximize their value and wherever that is is wherever that is. Exactly. That's how they should handle it. And one tell also is the agency that he uses. He's CAA and the specific agents that he have are not, you know, some of the, he's not not some hometown guy that would, it's, these are guys that are serious businessmen. I mean, if a guy is really, really loyal, he usually ends up taking a little bit less to stay where he is. I would not be banking on his loyalty. Let me put it to you like that. John and Medford, go ahead, John. Hi, Michael, I want to keep your head from blowing up on this one. You were close when you had the two pens on the moon and they were standing up and you were rotating the two pen. Yep. Okay. Yep. Take the moon pen and turn it horizontally and point one end. So I know that. I know that. That's so you're saying that the poles of the moon face us. And so we're just seeing it spinning in a perpendicular fashion. That's what you're saying, right? Yes. Are you sure that's, are you sure that's right? Because that's not what other people are saying. Because that I get a scientist, but I, but I, but I've been trying to study some of it. And I, and I see the, the moon, all that and the pen always points towards it. As it go. Okay. This John, thank you for the call. I'm just cutting you off because I don't think you're right. I wish you were, because that is an easy explanation that the moon is perpendicular to the, uh, the poles, you know, our poles face North, South, there's face East, West, just for a, you know, this is back to the spins like a bullet. For, right. For, for a lack of an easier, easier explanation. And so we only see the pole. We only see its anus, you know, you know what I mean? Yeah. Or its head. We, we, we only see the top of its head or its backend. And that makes perfect sense to me. That, that, that I get it. Apparently that's not it. What it is, is that the earth spins really fast. The moon spins really slow. And it just happens to be, it's synced up perfectly that when we rotate, I, I can't, I can't verbally explain it to you. Mass did it with the tennis balls in the break. I got it. Yeah. The earth spins a lot faster than the moon does is what it comes down to. So, you know, again, didn't the guy say that when the earth spins, it's, you know, the full revolution takes one day and the moon, it takes 27, which means the earth spins 20, 27 times faster than the moon does. Roger Rhode Island. Quick. Yep. It's, it's the title lock is caused by the gravity difference between the earth and the moon. The earth is much more gravity. It, it caused the moon over time to slow its rotation to where it spins only once every, somebody said 27 days. I think it's 28 days. Doesn't matter. So we always see the same side of the moon because it takes like a month to make one spin of itself. I got you. And it just happens to sync up perfectly. The verbal explanations, I'm just not smart enough to take in that those words and translate it. Mass showed me with the tennis balls and I think I got it. There you go. Thanks to Mass. But who knew this before yesterday? Well, I didn't, I had no idea. I didn't even know the moon was that small. I mean, I forgot. I must have been told at some point that we only see one side of the moon, but I forgot it. And when I read it the other day, I'm like, huh? So the far side of the moon is really the far side of the moon. Yet the moon rotates people. But so do we. So like that just sort of blew my mind. We rotate faster. But what, what, what also blows my mind is that there could be some answers on that other side. The entire surface of the moon is a history period of the solar system in a way the earth surface is not said. One of the experts quoted in this telegraph story I was reading on earth. We have plate tectonics, weathering and other geological processes that alter the nature of rocks, melting, reforming, wearing them away and changing their chemical composition. This means that we cannot easily study the history of the solar system using the earth because much of the evidence has already been wiped away. Okay, it makes sense. The moon rotates at exactly, rotates exactly once each time it orbits the earth. So the same side always faces our planet, a phenomenon known as tidal locking. The entire surface of the moon is a history record of the solar system in a way the earth surface is not. This means we, it turns out there is 60% of the far side that I think is we have never been seen before with human eyes. Said the Artemis II commander, Reed Weissman. When we see one of these big craters, human eyes have never seen that. So I mean all they're saying is that like when you get over there and actually take a look at it, there's gonna be answers there that we can't find in the rock formations here or in the rock formations that were on the nearest side of the moon where the Apollo was all on the nearest side of the moon. Okay, so I'm getting more interested in this as we go. Thank you. In all seriousness. Yes. I'm not being a wise ass, but here's my question. If there were all these answers on the other side of the moon, why haven't we gone back? Why did it take so long? Okay, I mean to me that's a simple answer. Money? 50 years is really not, in the scope of interstellar travel, 50 years is like two minutes probably. Also, just think about it. They change presidents every four or eight years. These are massive undertakings that take decades. Okay, so a new president or new administration comes in and says, now we're not going to do that or we're going to do that. And then the next guy says, now we're not going to do that and people themselves. So when they, the Apollo thing was over in 1972, they had spent over a decade on that thing. People were done with like, okay, we got it. We went. Now we're not. So for like, for the next 10, 15 years, you're not doing anything. Okay, so 50. Well, so now we're talking about a period of 30 or 35 years. It's expensive. There is no way to get to Mars with people. There was nothing to make any money up there. And did I mention we keep changing administrations and changing how we're going to finance the thing? This started with Trump in 2017. Okay, but now that nine, nine years later, 11 is they're going to be landing on the moon in 2018. That's 11 years later. And in part, I think it survived because Trump came back on the back end of the thing after taking four years off in the middle of it. Okay, I'm just telling you, I'm not using the interstellar calendar. And now there's private funding of it. In 1985, were there billionaires who, you know, trillionaires who were funding the thing? No. So no, no one wanted to do it. No one wanted to pay for it. Yeah, but meanwhile, the Earth's population has multiplied how many times over and now we have global warming. So you're telling me it wouldn't have been a little bit more beneficial if we'd done it earlier? People have to be motivated to do it. Okay, I'm just telling you that if. And this is also why it's worthwhile. It's an endeavor that is good for the soul and good for the brain to try and figure something out and try and achieve it. We're due for it. They're gonna be we're due for it. Yeah, I'm just telling you by the time we actually get the answer, you and I aren't going to be here. Okay, so just get me as close as you can. I'm interested in every step of the way. I'm interested in the things I've learned in the last 48 hours have expanded my brain and is good for me. And I think on a larger scale is good for all of us. But the thing that why we haven't been back simple since is much simpler as Murray here continues to root for the Padres. Oh, don't pretend you aren't either. Did the socks just go down three to short did my brain now this is what I'm interested in. These holes making errors. I think it's two to the continued implosion. Forget the heavy bombardment era of the moon. The Red Sox pitching staff also that wasn't Polgaard's wasn't no. Okay, here are the details with Murray and we're right back. And welcome back to the program. Got an email that was also going to be something to worry why you smarkin because I was giving credit to the boys in the back both Kevin and Ryan Garver coming up with the credit to them. How do you know this song because Murray you hate Ozzy Osbourne. I do not like heavy metal. That is true. But you underestimate me. What was the name of this song? Bark at the Moon. Jake E. Lee on guitar. That's a denim and album. Bark at the Moon. Yes. Yeah. Bark at the Moon. There was an email that was going to spurn another. Listen, it's the Red Sox opening day. So it's a tough, tough thing to counter program. Yeah, no, I like the moon thing. That's title locking. Another idea I was going to do is an email that we got. Peter and Charlotte in light of how ABS has gripped the sports world. I recommend the following topic for Maz's tears. We have to come up with some else because I was going to do it here. I'm going to do it now. Rule changes. Rule changes slash procedures that altered sports with an emphasis on changes that drew a lot of attention and scrutiny. I say change the nature of the sport. I came up with a list of about six. I can give you number one on my list. What is it? 24 second shot clock in the NBA. Oh, that was not on mine. That's a good one. What year was that? Oh, God, I don't know. That completely changes sport. It made possessions much faster. But what was it? Let me look. It wasn't one. No, no, no, no. I know what I mean is was the game like I remember college basketball. So growing up kids watching college basketball, Dean Smith employed something called the Four Corners Offends. Yeah, right. When they had a lead, they would put one guy in each corner of the front court. And they would just pass it to each other in the Four Corners until the clock wound down. So that used to exist in college basketball. Did that ever exist in the NBA? What was it? What year was the shot clock? 1954. So I want to know how they want to know how they actually came to the was invented in 54 by Syracuse Nationals owner to end stalling tactics and increase scoring by dividing total game seconds 2880 by an average of 120 shots a game, they landed on 24 seconds. So it's always been 24. Yeah, that's amazing. So the shot clock, yes. So I'm just doing my lifetime. Okay. In 1978, the NFL totally changed the way they adjudicated illegal contact in this. I think that's when illegal contact in the secondary was born. I don't think there was an illegal contact in the NFL before 1978, the five yard Chuck's zone, you can put a hands on guy for five yards and then you have to let him go. I think it used to be you could have hands on him the entire time. So the whole, all the passing rules changed in 1978. And go back and look at the numbers. Big one. You know, like just look at the Pittsburgh Steelers themselves, how they won and how they played pre-78. And then look at Bradshaw's numbers and how they played post-78. So 1978, the passing rules in the NFL 1978 were massive. I also put down, and this was a little bit before my day too. No, it was before my day. The late sixties and Major League Baseball, when they lowered the mound and then raised it, or they raised it and then lowered it. Correct. It was quick, but like that changed everything, right? Correct. Yep. Big one. But it was only for one year. They raised the mound and averages dropped precipitously. That's because of Bob Gibson, right? Yeah. I mean, he had a 1.12 ERA that year. So he was like the poster child for pitchers dominating that era. But I guess it was short, but it dramatically changed the game. I also put down the NHL, the post-lockout moves. Post-lockout come in 2005. I had to look it up. I knew all these things happened. I didn't know they all happened at once. All these things happened at once. They removed the red line, meaning kids, I don't know if you're old enough to remember, there used to be a two line off sides. You could not pass the puck out of your zone to someone on the far side of the red line. Correct. That was a two line off sides. So if you wanted to cherry pick post-lock, you had to stop at the red line. You couldn't cherry pick all the way to the opposing blue line. So they removed that. You can now have two line passes, but there used to be a two line off side. They cracked down on interference and clutching and grabbing, which was huge. That was the biggest thing they did. They also reduced goalie equipment. They added the trapezoid behind the net because Bro Dora was going into the corners and playing pucks. And they introduced shootouts. That all happened in 2005. Well, that's amazing. Massive. Yeah. And they all stuck. They all worked and they all stuck. I put the NBA three point line in 1979, 1980. I remembered as a buck season ticket holder, an 11 year old boy in Milwaukee, Ernie Grunfeld, and Brian Winter shooting three pointers. But the three point line didn't really change the game. Came much later. And for like two decades. Almost like 30 years maybe. No, that's right. That's right. I mean, it wasn't really a part of the game until. No, it's that Steph Curry Warriors team and like them that really changed it. I think analytics changed it. Everyone gives Curry credit for it. I think it was analytics. It changed in college before it changed in the NBA because the college line was shorter. And more teams were shooting threes early in college. I mean, Patino wanted to do it when he took over the Celtics in the 90s. The I guess so maybe that is a curry thing. The shooters just weren't ready for it. That's why you would Antoine Walker. Shocking three pointers. No, that's right. Yeah, I remember it. Bob Ryan always said nobody understood the power of the three pointer then. And so they didn't take them right. So it started in 1979, but it didn't really become a thing until like 2019. I mean, honestly, anyway, hand checking in the NBA in 2004. I mean, like so they opened up the NBA to at some point. Just trying to find out exactly when that might have happened. Hand checking in 04. Yep. That on the list. Yep. Here's a big one for me. NFL roughing the passer rules. 2018 is the line of demarcation for this. The body weight thing. This is one of mine. So not just that the Brady rule, you can't hit them below the knees. So you like Carson Palmer, Tom Brady. There are some others guys that got whacked on the knees. That were legal hits. One of these years they outlawed that. It might have been the same year they outlawed. You couldn't land on the quarterback with your body weight. No, the Brady one came before in 2018. It was the body weight one. That was like that to me was the moment because now these guys can't go full speed at them. Or they really don't know where the hell to hit them. And it's just so subjective for these refs that they'll fall on them a little bit. And all of a sudden it's roughing the passer. I hate it. So seismic rule changes and then pitch clock in the major league. Definitely seismic. Another big one. Tier one. What am I missing? I think you got the major ones. Oh, and they also after the shootouts were introduced after the lockout in 2005. So hockey came back after a year off. No two line offside. No more interference or clutching or grabbing. They reduced goalie equipment. They added the trapezoid. They added shootouts. Like that's kind of a seismic. They became a different game. Well, they also tells you how negligent they were about it. Yes. You know, they let too many things stack up. I know you brought up the initial illegal contact rules, but they reinforced that after the whole Patriots Colts thing, the Thai law thing from 2004. They did. This would have been a good tears. Sorry. Did it blame? Blame the Red Sox. When in doubt blame the Red Sox for everything. No, they have everything. No, it's pretty much. Yeah. The root of all evil is at Fenway Park. Long commercial excitement comes your way next. All right. Welcome back to the program. Let's do a lightning round. Shall we? Let's talk to the callers in a rapid. The lightning round brought to you by Blue Sky Restoration Contractors. Did you get that one by the way, Murray? No, what's this? I can't remember what's called. It's Talking Hets. Oh, it's not talking. It's a moon. Why would just what's rocks? Moon rocks. Probably about coke. I would imagine that from that era. Lightning round brought to you by Blue Sky Restoration Contractors. Spring weather here in New England can be unpredictable, but your restoration partner shouldn't be. Our guys at Blue Sky are always ready to respond 24 seven. So if you're experiencing water damage to your roof or any type of flooding from all the rain, visit go blue sky. No E go B L U S K Y go blue sky. Dot com to you. Go. You got to be quick. If you're calling on title locking or any of this stuff, you got to be quick about it. Whatever you are, be quick. Jeff and Watertown. Go. So soldier quarterly soccer check in. How are you feeling about the U.S. men's national team World Cup two weeks away? So it's 48 teams not 32 this year. Quickly. How about you? Horrible, right? I think we got waxed by Belgium and who? We just had two international friendlies where we got absolutely smoked. Portugal, I think was in Portugal and these are big world powers, but we weren't even in the thing. Soccer pissed me off. If you know, if you've been watching, listen to this show for the balance of it, the 18 years we've been doing this, 17 years, you know, I want the soccer to hit and the previous World Cup cycles when the U.S. were in it, I watched it. We talked about it. We did it. So I'm like willing the thing to come and be and they just can't. So F U, you know, and I was also disillusioned with baseball and rightfully so the game had ground to a halt. You know, baseball had gotten really baseball had gotten to be a complete bore. And so I wanted soccer to come on and, you know, vie for it and da da da and all that. And it hasn't had baseball has gotten more interesting. The pitch clock saved the sport and the U.S. Soccer can't get out of their own way. So F them. I'll watch it, but I don't have the thing like I used to have the thing for U.S. Soccer. And speaking of which, Italy's out. Yeah. Oh yeah. I don't care about the international countries. They've missed the last three, 12 years. Unbelievable. Lighting around brought to by blue sky restoration contractors gave in the car. Go ahead. Get these. Gratia. All right. This is going back a little bit and I just want the answer because I wouldn't say it to his face either. But Bo Jackson told you guys that he hit the ball off the sickle sign. He did. He did. And I just wondering if you guys caught it or if it went over your heads or what we caught it. We let it go. Yeah, we did. We let it go because you saw the size of that man's thighs. You would have let it go to it's not just that he'd crack my head like a walnut. He was just doing his thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. Talking smack. You know, we asked, I asked him about a home run he hit. He said, yeah, that was off of oil camp. Boy, it might not have been, but he started to tell the story and it was entertaining. So I was like, I'm not going to look it up. No, you just let it go. He obviously did. The one he hit off of oil camp was in spring training. You know, so you asked him about a specific spring training home run. He's like, oh yeah, that was off oil camp. Or no, like I asked, I can't remember. No, you asked him about hitting the flagpole and he said it was oil camp. Okay. But it was actually in spring training that he hit it off oil camp. I don't care if it's a tall tale. It's entertaining. Like I said, I think I said at the time, if you met Paul Bunyan and he says, well, you know, I got babe the blue ox and he doesn't have the ox. You don't say, well, where's the ox? You just believe it. So I didn't believe it and I definitely remember him saying it. And he was there to talk about prostate cancer. He also got into his prostate and everything. And he, he, when you asked him a question, he would talk for like two minutes. Yeah. And he was entertaining. He still does have a little bit of a speech impediment. So it's not, I didn't want to like argue with Bojack. No, me neither. You think you hit the sickle sign by all means, sir. Go ahead. You hit the sickle. Yeah. It's super. But we kill it a lot. Go light around brought to by blue sky restoration contractors. Jim and brimfield. Can you do the title lock explanation in five seconds? Go. Yeah, I can. Mads, if you take your tennis balls, face the text together and then move the moon ball to the opposite side so that the text is facing away from if the moon was just revolving around the earth and not rotating, that's what would happen. But because it's, it's rotating just slightly so that the text is always facing each other. It's the same principle as having a string attached to a ball. Stop. That's what I did earlier. He described it in a way that was way too wrong. The, the, but I have not, I have yet to hear a verbal explanation. That comes close to puncturing my ability to understand because I'm limited. The, the masses, masses physical demonstration here with the tennis balls lands. Beca, well, but the earth is spinning way faster. Yeah, right. That's, that's a point. Yeah. To keep up, it has to. Yeah. So the earth spins more quickly than the moon. And it's synced up because of the tides. Because of the, so this is the next question. The gravitational pull of the earth is what sinks it up. The earth, the earth's gravity is six times greater than that on the moon, roughly. The lightning round is brought to you by blue sky restoration contractors. Do you remember Neil Armstrong hit like a seven iron on the moon? Go blue sky.com. What? No. Yes. I mean, I've seen the clips. Yeah. Neil, cause he wanted to see how far it went because the ball carries far. There's one six of the gravity. So he hit the seven iron like freaking a thousand yards. I understand that. That does nothing to explain why we only see one side of the. This has to do with the title lock. This is what the guy was saying earlier. The gravity here is stronger. So that's part of what creates the spin. Not you've lost me. Tucker in the car. I don't think the seven iron has anything to do with title locking. Tucker in the car. Go. I've got it for you, Mike. You're at a basketball forward. You have a basketball put in the center of the court, spinning. Now just walking a circle around the basketball. As you're walking around your left shoulders always pointed at the ball. You're walking in a circle. Just walking a circle. It doesn't feel like you're spinning. Stop thinking of the moon and spinning. From the from the bleachers of Mads and Murray are watching you. Yeah, you're you're going. You're spinning because you're walking in a circle. But as far as you're concerned, you're just walking in a circle around the basketball, which is spinning faster than your circle. And no, but I'm spinning. I'm spinning while I'm while I'm rotating around that basketball. Just just walk. No, because you're spinning relative to if you were watching it from the stands. But what? Ignore him. The way I showed you with the balls is the easiest way. You're a visual. I can show you with some balls to. Jake in Boston. Go quick on the light. Off it. Saga recommendation for you. Pull up HBO's documentary from the earth to the moon. It's the best thing that they've ever done. I didn't cut them off. What happened? I don't know. I actually want to watch that. We just froze up. We got the spinning wheel of death here. I got to write that down. What's it called? From the earth to the moon. So I get the suggestions you people are sending me. I might actually watch because I am a sucker for like, as you can tell. I would watch this space stuff. What's it called? From the earth to the moon. Okay, done. I'll send you the link. Heather and Clinton on the lightning round brought to you by Blue Sky restoration contractors. Go ahead. So since you're on this moon kick spell where I have a suggestion for a rejoin song to the moon and back by Savage Garden. Okay. No, Murray. Savage Garden. Is Jake there? Go ahead, Jake. No, he's not there. Never mind. Dermot. Dermot in top field. Yes, Dermot. Hey, Felder and Maz. I can do this in about a minute. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 10 seconds. 10 seconds. Try it. Okay. 10 seconds. Pretend Felder. You're standing in a field and Maz is on the edge of the field. You're spinning every day. Okay. You're spinning every day. He is spinning every. He takes a month to spin. Yeah. Okay. Yep. That would mean that every day you wake up and you'll start to notice. Wait a minute, Maz. I'm starting to see the side of your face now and now I'm seeing your backside. Right? No, because we only see his backside in this analogy. We only see one side of the moon. So no, we don't see different angles of the moon. We only see one. All of us, those in China and Australia and those in Brookline, that blows me away. And your verbal explanation almost described what Maz showed me with the tennis ball. The tennis ball thing is the only thing that makes me understand. Right. One spins faster than the other. You can't do it. You can't verbally explain this to me or simpletons like me. You can't do it. The moon spins a lot slower than the earth does. Eric and Winchester claims to be an astrophysicist. Oh, here we go. This ought to work. Eric and Winchester, go ahead and lighten your arm. Brought to you by Blue Sky. All right, guys. The moon goes around the earth in 29 days. Goes all the way around the earth. The moon spins once in 29 days. So because those numbers are the same, we always see one side because we're in the middle. So I only understand what you're saying because of the tennis balls. It took the... So Eric, let me ask you something. For those who say that the moon landing was fake in 69, and you want to tell them they're wrong in two sentences, what do you say to them? You look at the video and the dust coming up off the rover, and the dust goes up and comes down. There's no air resistance. We don't have the technology to fake that now, never mind in the 60s. Thank you. Chris Gasper standing by for His Tent. Comes your way in 90 seconds. No commercials. Don't go anywhere.