Spittin' Chiclets Episode 642: The Chug Heard Around The World
142 min
•Apr 30, 2026about 1 month agoSummary
Episode 642 covers first-round NHL playoff action with detailed analysis of Buffalo vs. Boston, Philadelphia vs. Pittsburgh, Montreal vs. Tampa Bay, Edmonton vs. Anaheim, and Utah vs. Vegas series. Hosts discuss viral moments including a failed beer chug attempt, goaltender performances, special teams impact, and emerging young players reshaping playoff hockey.
Insights
- Special teams dominance is decisive in tight playoff series—Utah's 7% power play and Vegas's 5-goal special teams advantage demonstrates how penalty kill/power play execution separates winners from losers in close matchups
- Young, hungry teams with less playoff experience can outskate and outlast veteran squads through sustained pressure and depth scoring, as seen with Philadelphia's upset of Pittsburgh and Montreal's resilience against Tampa
- Goaltender performance variance (save percentage below .880 vs. .920+) can swing entire series outcomes; elite goaltending in clutch moments often matters more than regular season credentials
- Coaching adjustments and lineup flexibility (scratching underperforming players, deploying fourth-line energy) prove more impactful than raw talent in playoff hockey's compressed, high-intensity environment
- Neutral zone speed and transition play are now primary differentiators in playoffs; teams that control the neutral zone and limit offensive-zone time for opponents significantly improve their chances
Trends
NHL playoff viewership surge with 83 games exceeding 1M viewers (up from prior year), indicating mainstream sports audience growth for hockeyYoung player emergence in first-round upsets—Philly's Michkov, Montreal's Hudson, Utah's Boldy proving age/experience less predictive than playoff readinessGoaltender-led series wins becoming more common; backup/younger goalies (Vladar, Ingram, Walsh) outperforming expected performance levelsSpecial teams (power play/penalty kill) now primary series predictor; teams with 50%+ power play efficiency or 90%+ PK rates advancing at higher ratesCoaching staff impact on player deployment and game management (scratches, line combinations, timeout usage) increasingly visible as differentiator in tight seriesNeutral zone trap and defensive structure prioritized over offensive skill in first-round matchups; teams winning puck battles in neutral zone advanceVeteran leadership and clutch performance (Pasta, Gensel, Couturier) still critical but increasingly supplemented by young depth scoringHome-ice disadvantage emerging in some series; teams winning Game 5 on road showing momentum advantage into Game 6/7 scenariosFan engagement and atmosphere directly correlating with team performance; loud, engaged crowds providing measurable energy boost to home teamsMedia/social narrative impact on player psychology; online criticism of scratched players (Michkov) creating pressure on coaching decisions
Topics
Special Teams Performance in Playoff HockeyGoaltender Save Percentage and Series OutcomesYoung Player Emergence in First-Round UpsetsNeutral Zone Control and Transition PlayCoaching Adjustments and Lineup ManagementHome-Ice Advantage in Playoff SeriesPower Play Efficiency as Series PredictorPenalty Kill Execution in Tight MatchupsDepth Scoring vs. Star Player ProductionPlayoff Experience vs. Regular Season PerformanceGoaltender Confidence and MomentumFourth-Line Energy and Series ImpactDefensive Structure and Puck Battle DominanceClutch Goal Scoring in OvertimeFan Atmosphere and Team Performance Correlation
Companies
Twisted Tea Brewing Company
Official drink sponsor of Grit Week; featured in opening segment with product details and promotional messaging
Everman Jack
Sponsor of personal care products; advertised body wash, deodorant, and beer care as naturally-derived alternatives
Pink Whitney
Alcohol beverage prominently featured throughout episode; multiple references to consumption and brand integration wi...
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Sports betting platform sponsor; featured Kentucky Derby and Stanley Cup playoff betting promotions with promo codes
Athletic Brewing Company
Non-alcoholic beer sponsor; promoted as alternative beverage option with flavor profiles and online ordering
Reese's
Candy sponsor; promoted limited edition strawberry PB&J and marshmallow cups as official Barstool Sports partner
Bombas
Apparel sponsor; promoted sports socks, slides, underwear, and base layers with discount code for listeners
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Fashion retailer sponsor; promoted summer collection including swim, dresses, and linen matching sets
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Charlie Bigham's
Food brand sponsor; promoted new pan-fry Asian noodle range including pad thai and yaki soba
People
Wayne Gretzky
Guest on Game Notes episode 99; discussed hockey insights and granted permission for hosts to wear number 99
Colby Armstrong
Co-host providing analysis on playoff series, goaltender performance, and team dynamics throughout episode
Paul Bissonnette
Primary analyst discussing playoff trends, special teams impact, and player performances across multiple series
Ryan Whitney
Co-host providing analysis and commentary on playoff hockey, goaltender performances, and series predictions
R.A. Bucci
Guest analyst providing insights on Utah vs. Vegas series, special teams performance, and playoff trends
Colby Armstrong
Guest discussing Pittsburgh's playoff exit, coaching decisions, and Philadelphia's upset victory
Connor McDavid
Discussed as key player in Edmonton vs. Anaheim series; analyzed for skating ability and playoff performance
David Pastrnak
Scored overtime winner in Game 6; analyzed for elite playmaking and clutch performance in playoff hockey
Jeremy Swayman
Vezina finalist; discussed for exceptional performance in Buffalo series, including shutout in Game 6
Ilya Sorokin
Vezina finalist; discussed for strong playoff performance and save percentage metrics
Andrei Vasilevskiy
Vezina finalist; analyzed for performance in Montreal series despite allowing key goals
Samuel Girard
Mentioned as player with multiple overtime goals in playoff history; referenced for clutch performance
Brendan Gallagher
Scored crucial goal in Game 5 vs. Tampa; discussed as veteran leader returning from healthy scratch
Jake Guentzel
Scored multiple goals in series; noted as first American with most playoff goals in NHL history
Evan Bouchard
Analyzed for elite playmaking and offensive contributions in Edmonton vs. Anaheim series
Cam York
Scored overtime winner in Game 6 vs. Pittsburgh; discussed as emerging young defensive talent
Rasmus Ristolainen
Played first playoff games in career; analyzed for strong defensive performance and puck movement
Zac Hyman
Discussed as key forward in Edmonton's lineup; analyzed for playoff performance and line chemistry
Matt Boldy
Scored multiple goals in Dallas series; discussed as emerging superstar in playoff hockey
Mats Zuccarello
Returned from injury; analyzed for impact on Minnesota's offensive production and team chemistry
Quotes
"You can't chug out of that. You can't chug out of that. It doesn't work like the way it's now."
Buffalo Sabres Fan•Early in episode discussing beer chug attempt
"This is bad. This is bad. I'll get to you in a second."
Witt•During discussion of failed beer chug at Buffalo game
"You got to own the spillage. You just got to own the spillage."
Fan in bathroom•Advice given to Witt after chug incident
"If they win, this thing's a non-story. Well, it's a story. It's a funny clip, but it's not a big deal. They lose. We're riding this thing."
Witt•Discussing impact of chug on Sabres loss
"Special teams is going to dominate and I just think that ultimately the speed will wear philly down."
Colby Armstrong•Predicting Carolina over Philadelphia in second round
"Utah you think it's over? I think it's over man. They've squandered their opportunity."
R.A. Bucci•Discussing Utah vs. Vegas series momentum
Full Transcript
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That's right. Pinkies up. That's what we're talking about here. We got so much playoff action, so many big series, crazy moments, but it all involves pinkies up. Pink Whitney. Merle's has the bottle right there. Merle's has joined us. Colby Armstrong's coming on. Pink Whitney was consumed. If I could have put pinkies up, pink Whitney into that friggin' buffalo sabre sword, I might have had a different storyline for myself in the city of Buffalo. You might be down. Shout out Pink Whitney. No, don't put that down. Put your pinkie up. Jesus. You know what the coolest part of one of the coolest parts of Buffalo was? Remember that? He had to be 80, maybe 85, and he just came up. Pinkies up. Love the show. I was like, holy shit, man. Thank you so much. So, guys, a couple of crazy moments from the past few days. I mean, we chatted Monday. Long show. Gonna be a little quicker today. I'm sorry for all you folks listening. Three hours. That's hard. You got Game Notes Wednesday. We're back on Thursday. Gonna be a little quicker. Way know was on Game Notes. I know. It's what I wanted to shout out. The 99th episode, you got the great one, Merle. Yeah, that was huge. Got to shout out Armdog for getting that done and then G Impauch for for getting across the finish line. And yeah, go listen to that. He's unreal. His breakdown. We kind of kept it short on him because he was on vacation. So we only did a few breakdowns with him, but he's so smart. It's incredible. It must be nice to take a vacation during playoffs. Hey, Wayne. Oh, yeah, he's he's love. He should be on a private island. The fact that he even talks to us is insane. Like I don't be on permanent vacation. And the fact that he still gives back to the game is incredible. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, he comes in now, I think it'll be finals. He was one night so far at TNT, right? And then I'll definitely be there for the finals. Maybe you might have one for you. One for the second round. Oh, sorry, you don't have finals. So he'd be conference finals when you're trying to find us. We're going on the road. We're going on the road. Blade gang was loving the pink Whitney. We got a kind of we have to hop right in. Yeah, we'll have to. We'll have to go into the round of applause, by the way, for wet for an and more. Hey, buddy, it was not too many. It was a standing. I mean, just a standing away should similar to the one Mike Vrabel got from Patriots season ticket holders. That was just an incredible video Patriots fan. We don't care. We just want wins. And just standing for Mike Vrabel. I had a standing. Oh, coming. I had the internet murals and myself on where we were on the I 90 in the most dangerous spot. I 90 apparently and we're all the blade things are all good. We meet blade gang. And then and then there was this. And this thing right here, boys, this thing buried me. And for people who aren't watching on Netflix, this is the saber sword, the saber sword. Are you trying to play a video or something? I don't know if you heard the church bells, but there was some disgusting, scary church bells done on like Undertaker. Yeah, but not that undertaker music because you don't want to get in trouble. So I found generic on YouTube, but apparently you guys couldn't hear it. That's my bad. Either way, this sword was just now the video is playing right here. Okay, I've gone through this a couple times. I made the video. We went out and I want to say one thing first off. The people in Buffalo, those might be the best people in the United States of America, like the friendliest. I didn't know if I'd get chirped. You know, I figured we were kind of on decent terms considering they made me look like the fool. 0.0%. They get in, they go on this run. And now I'm kind of going there belly of the beast as I said on the highway with Mer. So everyone was so nice. Like, oh, wait, thanks for coming. Like, I'm talking Mer, the people there were amazing. And we go on stage and we try to fire them up a little bit. They were actually pumped up. They had the clown nose on me on the banner and everything. I chugged a beer out of this boys. I must have got maybe, maybe this much. I'm talking like one tiny sip of my milk. Oh, like a, like a, like a pre round. You did it like pre bowling at the fan fest. It was fan fest. And I don't know if there was a video that meme said he might have had one, but my jersey that they gave me with the 0.0 number, it was just covered in beer. And then the guy who was MC and it's like, oh, you can't chug out of there. And then Saber's fans as I'm taking pictures walking on, oh, you can't chug out of that. You can't chug out of that. It doesn't work like the way it's now. I really, really wish they hadn't told me that right because I just want to try it again. I would have been like, I also want to get ahead of something. Horcoff called me as he goes, wait, oh my God, I've had phone calls from people I haven't talked to in years. Same. I've never been a great beer chugger. He reminds I'm not a beer chug guy. I'm not good at it. Right. I'm not one of those pros at chugging beers. But I would have just tried it again and dealt with the spillage. Buddy, I had, I don't know, the arm of the pump up arm that was barely moving like a squiggly arm. My wife said it was, I was one of the blow up things outside a car dealership. That thing wasn't even work moving. And then to try not to chug and spill at one point, it's completely horizontal. Nothing's coming out. And I'm realizing quickly halfway through this, I think this is bad news. Like this is not like, look, it's not, what are you doing? But you got to pour the thing. You got to pour the thing. Murrell's right when I finished, he goes, what the hell was that? And I'm like, oh man, this is bad. This is bad. I'll get to you in a second. I'll get to you right away when I'm done. I figured, all right, I'm going to get chirped by some fans, buddy. I gotta ask you, this. Did you tell TNT to put that on? How did that make it to TV? I obviously told them that you were going to be live in attendance than anything that happened. Just have a camera on you, just in case. Did I ever think in my wildest dreams that you would have delivered what you delivered? I was in shock. And then I saw Port Noy's video and then I was laughing my cock off, because he's obviously hilarious. My question to you though, Witte, is knowing all that information and then handing you the saber at the pre-event and then explaining to you how hard it is to chug out of it. Did it ever cross your mind, hey, I'm just going to shot, going to beer to fire up the crowd without pouring beer into the sword? Buddy, no. And that's what I'll never get over in my head. But they gave me the saber as like, man, like, yeah, dude, there was no, there was no expectation from the sabers to use the sword. No, I don't know. Murl's, we were sitting there and we never even, we poured them in advance. Remember, we poured them in advance. Yeah, we wanted to make sure there was no foam. That was the only thing we were thinking about. Another thing too, it's like, I almost think that like holding it closer to where it comes out would have been easier because the amount of distance between, yeah, like, like that. And then it wouldn't have created the visual of like holding it, holding the dick and balls either, you know, like, that's another good call. Bizz, now listen. I hate to rag on you. Hey, buddy, this is one thing where if you can't own up to just looking like a fool and just take the piss, like, what are you doing on the internet? Boy, it's like, this is life. Now, all your, all the things you brought up, listen, I'm sitting on the flight home, I had no internet on the flight home, and it's just one of those like, you know, you're just going through everything. Like, what, what, what was I thinking? And I didn't, I didn't take anything. What we were kind of thinking was we need Buffalo to not give up a goal before I go up on the, on the big screen. Oh, yeah, that's a bar. And they didn't, they scored. Not only did they score, they got the penalty kill too. So they scored a goal, then they got a penalty, they got the penalty kill, we got through that. I'm like, Oh my God, this place is perfect situation. Yeah, it's like, I'm going on. And yeah, like, there's not much else to say besides an all time fuck up an all time clip. And, and sometimes, you know, you're, you're, you're flying high and buddy, life's like a roller coaster, right? Like we had that day, Mer, we had that day dominated, and it ended up not only with my embarrassment, but a loss for the Sabres. That was the biggest part because I said sitting in the seat, once this thing's going viral, that's the other part. There's like, you couldn't Twitter wouldn't really load. And then it would load. It was like, you know, you're in a stadium and it's just not working very well. And I'm, but I'm seeing this thing going mega viral. I'm like, I got to get to make a video, I got to address this means is like, if you go in the concourse, the internet's a little better. And I'm sitting there after with Murray, go, they have to win. If they win, this thing's a non store. Well, it's a story. It's a funny clip, but it's, it's not a big deal. They lose. We're riding this thing. I go, when's the next game? Don't tell me it's two days. He goes, it's two days. Oh, so this just kind of, this is, I mean, this is bigger than bigger than the variable story at this point. Mer, Mer, after that happened, you're like, Hey, man, like, what the fuck was that? Like, obviously, you could sense that like, there was a lack of aura. Did you feel the energy in the building just get sucked out because of that? Well, I planned on going up there and chugging mine too. So I'm standing there kind of like a dope, because I'm just sitting waiting, like, oh, he's going to get done real quick. And then I'm going to do mine real quick. And but all of a sudden it was over. So that's what the hell is going on there. I could have saved the company, like pushed him out of the way, done the real chug like the guy at the drum. But for us, it was just the pigeon tossed. The pressure of the power play was what we were really worried about. We were still confident they were going to win the game. So we weren't too worried. But the savers could have saved you with because if they do come back and win that game, that could have been like the viral thing for them all playoffs is the slow chug. They need a ball. They need a rally. I think I think we still could get there. If they can get more on if they can get this series, then now now granted it would happen in a loss, but that could be and I'm thinking, you know what? No, you want to you want to hear like how my brain works trying to like, you know, flip this thing on its side. I'm like, you know what, man, I'm a dad, three boys, and it's responsible chugging. That's I'm teaching the youth. You don't you don't have to chug you have to be responsible and the kids out there. Now listen, is that a reach? Oh hell, yeah, that's a reach. But at the same time, if the savers can get this series still, I'm off the hook. If the savers lose this series, I can admit not welcome back in Buffalo. But you know what, back to the fans and we'll get into the game in a sec back to the fan, Philly and everything that's happened. The fans, even as I'm leaving, by the way, pasta got the puck. He got the puck at the blue line and I walked out. I go, that's it. Let's go. And I knew it was like, that's it. And he took had just been robbed. Swamin is an absolute God in this series. The fact that he's playing like this is just incredible to watch. No wonder he's up for the Vezna and pasta got the puck. And I bombed down by the time I got around the corner where I'd done the pathetic chug, Merle's is trying to grab up the saber swords and we can't forget these. I'm like, yeah, good point. I don't want to leave that there. That really helped me out tonight. So and as I'm leaving, Saber's fans, hey, thanks for coming, buddy. I'm like, what about my chug? I was bad, but it's bad, buddy, but we'll get him. We'll get him. Like just positive, good people that treated me phenomenally well and want to say thank you to them. And once again, I'll apologize. And my favorite moment that I addressed, I think I'm part of my take with the guy in the bathroom. What's up with that chug, man? I was like, I don't know. I was like explaining what happened. He's like, you got to own the spillage. You just got to own the spillage. And yeah, if you could go back, I do think had I chugged it and spilled like I did earlier, I think I'm still getting chirped. But one tenth of what it looked like. Yeah, it would have been like the effort for trying to slam it. And then you could have just blamed the sword. I thought you were almost like jumping on the grenade for Josh Allen. That's what I thought you were doing to just distract the fact that he kind of had a shitty chug that half of it went on his jersey. So I think that when they advance, I still think that they're going to beat the Boston Bruins. I think they need a redemption for you and Josh Allen. Same game. Both of you bang in the drum and then into both sword chugs. And or if you want to put the sword chug to the side and say, hey, no more fucking sword, I get that. But I think it's crazy. You got two negatives make a positive and they got to make you guys connect. Well, they have to win first and going back to the game. So Darlene scores on a beautiful shot post and then nothing Swamin could do, right? And I said to Morales, it must have been three minutes after that, like game clock Swamin through a screeny battle. I forget who he saved it on. And I'm like, dude, he looks dialed right now. Like, you know how you could tell with a goalie early on Keith, remember last year with Bob, you were kind of like, Oh, he's got it early in games. I'm like, I don't think they're scoring again. And it turned out to be the only thing I got right. And like the way he's able to track the puck right now, because you may say that Buffalo is still going to win. I feel I really hope they do. It's going seven, buddy. This there's no chance to Bruins the way they showed up game five at home with, I think already said the worst home performance he's ever seen or they've ever had. I just can't picture them not coming out guns ablaze and not to mention the pasta interview after the game in which he's like, just cheer loud. I promise we'll shoot the puck. But I don't know if anyone wants to take over what they saw in the game, just the pasta goal. What a move. Well, since I had boots on the ground, I can say this that the Buffalo crowd yelling Swamin swamin did not did not help the team do not do that to a guy like Swamin. He's a dog. He's going to feast off of that. Once you get three or four on them, if you want to have some fun, let them sleep. That that was killer. I think that it was expected after you if you're a goalie and you go by the bench and you call out your team, you better be the best player on the ice for your team that next game. And he was and it kind of people have their initial opinions on that. Like, hey, you're a goalie. Shut the fuck up. Just stop the puck. Other people are like, well, no, like he's in the net and playing a full 60 minutes and he's a true leader on this team. And especially the way he played all season being up for the Vezna. He is up for the Vezna, right? He's one of the top three. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I think that it was pretty much a gimme that he was going to come in and give his best. And, you know, pasta, I mean, fuck, as a Leafs fan, I've seen that story before. And like you went when he got that at the blue. And I was just impressed because initially when he received the pass, like keep in mind, like it was a great defensive zone play. And then the camera's got a pan quick. So when you see it pan, you're like, oh, fuck it kind of looked like he was offside. But then you go back to the play and it was just great anticipation from him off the bench knowing the turnover was coming. He gets going. And then he actually, as he's crossing over, he gets his left leg back and he hovers it. Some people still confused with the rule. Obviously they're like, Oh, his skate was off the ice. It's like, Oh, they changed that three years ago. And it's just, I would, I would say he was onside by a country like literally that much the blade of his skate and just an unbelievable move. And lion, I thought lion was solid too, man. This is, these are two good goalies going at it. And this is going to be a difficult closeout for the Buffalo Sabres, especially at the fact like they put Oslin in, right? And he was tremendous in the game prior and fit right in. He had a great regular season. Fans are really happy with him. Of course, that was with Norris coming out. Well, apparently Norris was ready to go like he could have played, but they're like, Hey, we're up three one, let's get him a couple more days rest, especially with the two day layover in between games, five and six. And he fucking gets injured like five minutes into the game. I don't know if you guys heard caught wind on what happened, Murr. No, but he was probably their best player leading up to that. We were so impressed with him. I saw him play two years ago in Sweden after he got drafted. He was this tiny little boy and what he's become, he was their most effective player. We didn't see the play what happened to him, but we saw him at the bench limping behind the bench. Yeah, look at that. He's in middle stat fell on his knee. That's what it was. Yeah, it looked like it was like a MCL type of thing where it opened up. And what we knew is when he go down the tunnel, all of a sudden you see four gentlemen in suits just fall basically out of the stands into the tunnel. It was the four doctors from the Sabres and we're like, Oh, they know that's not good. If they're all four rushing down right away down the tunnel. So I don't expect to see him for a long time. And it stinks because he was playing on the first power play. They got they finally got a goal on the power play. What hasn't been there. So that's going to be a tough loss for him. To make that to make that move that Pasta knock made on the like to have a guy draped on your back that close to the goalie, his edge work and hands like that. That's such an elite move that he's maybe one of five guys in the league that can make that such a sick move and bury that in his celebration in the stand. I give him the finger. Yeah, yelling back. I think he was looking for a wet. You were the fuck did that with the guy? We were on the way home. Another thought I'm like, you know, Cam Neely, he just looks grumpy up in the box. Even when they're winning, he's just grumpy. And I just pictured like, see in my chug and like how pathetic it was. Like maybe he just like gave a little smile. Oh, yeah. I think that was think we're winning this one tonight. Yeah, but I don't think the saber they didn't have their best game, right? Like it was just kind of they turned it on late. I mean, Swamin made that save on who's the kid from check that like threw it behind him late in the third period. And then over time he had a couple obviously and it was just it was an atmosphere they were ready to explode, but they were ready to just go nuts. The beginning of the game. Merle's and I were saying like this is kind of as loud as Edmonton was in the finals. Like it was it was a crazy atmosphere. Shut out the fans for just picking up the Canadian anthem when the microphone didn't work. Yeah, the fact that happened when you stepped in the building. I was like, this is something's off. There's a bad electrical current coming in that fucking building. When does that ever happen there? And the one game you step in the building it's going down, but they picked it up. They picked it up for they crushed it. Very, very cool moment. A lot of people confuse as to why they sing the Canadian national anthem. It's a border town. They get tons of Canadian fans going over. They even were I don't know if they still do it, but kind enough in the past where maybe they weren't drawing as well, they would sell tickets at par. So if you were a Canadian and the dollar exchange is you know, 130 and it's, they would say, Hey, don't worry, your Canadian dollars just as good here at even that's fucking pretty nice. The other guy, there was Rumblings. Gee, you mentioned it. You thought Linholm wasn't 100%. He was getting bumped down in the lineup a little bit, maybe to, to alleviate some of the pressure from tougher matchups. Well, he fucking comes through with that big tying goal on that net front scramble. So as a Bruins fan is maybe hard as some fans have been on them for lack of production and where he's at. Hey man, he helped extend your season. Yeah, I like seeing a Sturm, I thought the good coaching moves that Sturm made was playing Zaka and Kuznetz off alongside post-Nok. That was the point I was really making last show is Linholm. He doesn't play with enough pace for post-Nok. Like he need, we need a faster pace alongside post-Nok. So, and then Kuznetz Dean off. I mean, he doesn't have a point this series, but I think he's one of the Bruins best players. Like he hunts pucks. He's a fucking motherfucker out there. He just battles nonstop. I love this kid. But yeah, I thought, I don't think Linholm played the best game ever. I thought he had a good goal, but I love what Sturm did with the lines. I think for Buffalo too, it's, and we talked about it with Philly is these young teams and teams that haven't been in the playoffs is figuring out a way to win and figure, you saw Philly last night, like that game was so boring. They're just trying to figure out how to close out a series. And I think Buffalo had a little bit of that in that game. Obviously losing and overtime hurts, but I think it's just one of those steps that you got to make as an organization to get better, get on to the next round, figure out how to win. And I think they take care of them next week. Well, we got a few young teams in these playoffs. I mean, Utah, one of them where they've given up some leads, crazy stat. We'll get to it later with them, but kind of similar to Anaheim and Buffalo, two young teams that are up 3-1 that, okay, you get three chances to close this thing out. Let's see how you handle it and how you can, how you can figure it out with a young group of guys. Not to mention there's a lot of pride on the other teams too. Like no one wants to get beat for one. No one wants to start there somewhere. Like all these guys out there have pride and want to extend these series as long as they can. So based on POSTA's comments, Boston's the type of crowd where they yell, shoot a lot. Oh my God. For an original 16, they might be the worst. I think they started it. He never walks the game with RA. RA is, I've never, we've done streams with him before where we've had to mute him in the back because he's just like, shoot, shoot, shoot. Even on Twitter, he's tweeting, shoot, shoot, shoot. Playoffs, playoff hockey, man. Shoot to puck. But at some point, you got to give, you know, you got to give POSTA coming over the blue line like three seconds to maybe make a play or toe drag that thing into a release in the slot. They're yelling, shoot immediately when they get in the offensive zone. So I was going to ask you one question, because I obviously, you know, we were all kind of chirping you on Twitter, having fun with this thing. And you did. Well, except for Jans, because he doesn't have Twitter, which we hope he gets pretty soon. You chirped me on text. That would, but one of your comments, you said you were getting a lot of text that I was blowing Bruce Cassidy. Oh yeah. I'm interested to hear who, who was texting you. No tweets, random tweets like, wow, Biz said all this guy's teammates hate him. No, I didn't. No, I never said that. I said, he said his shelf life or something. I said your shelf life, whatever they said. And then apparently, apparently you were just, just, just really, really, really just playing up Bruce. What do you think? Oh yeah. I'm going to ask him to sit on his lap at one point. This guy's going to come into studio and I'm all little sensitive here, busy boy. No, I want to buddy. If we, first of all, he's coming on the podcast. He was also pretty good on TV. I'll give him that. He was unbelievable. But if you think for a minute, when we get him on after I asked him to come to the podcast, that was my first question or one of my first questions, I'm going to say, just like I did with hitch say, a, you know, it is that you, it's 10 that you ride your players hard and, and you know, you wear on same thing that we went over in an interview with hitch. No, that we talked about this. Yes, sir. So you're acting like I'm shitting, dragging this guy through the mud on the podcast where all I've said is that he rides his players hard and that he's got a short shelf life. The same thing we said about ports, the same thing we've said about hitch, like what, what coach that does that? Have we not said that about on this podcast? Did I say anything personal towards him? Where people don't remember any personal attacks? Any personal attacks at all? So you're saying I'm being sensitive about I just had, I just had to have the conversation about like, Oh, I'm blowing them. What am I supposed to do? Not be a nice guy to him because I think he rides his players. I never played for him. Bates Pataglia was the only guy who came on here fucking saying he's the worst guy ever. I forgot about that interview. Yeah, I know you did. That was up when I, that was when I was up in my attic still recording this show back in the day. You're acting like I was the guy saying it. Now that I'm blowing them, I think that people tweet that you think that I'm Bates Pataglia. That's what I think is going on right now. That could be, I mean, I could see that. Some are similar looks. I'm very excited though to have Bruce on. That's great that you locked that interview in. Good job. So we're gonna come on now that he hears that we're talking about this. He did say that I think his daughter or one of his kids follows us on TikTok. He's like, you guys do the TikTok stuff. I'm like, yeah, that's like one thing that we do, but I'm not sure what clips are coming out on TikTok that is just memes going out, get ready videos, like I can make up tutorials. How was me? How was memes through all that nonsense? He was, he was crying. We, because we went back to watch the Oilers, which by the way, Oilers are up three nothing as I'm not watching any of it. I'm like, I don't know if I can watch these guys. And I go back home and I'm get to one, but then obviously four one get to that. But memes was crying, laughing, like, like just going over our night together. He's like, that was, but what were you doing? He kept saying, what were you doing? I was more disgusted with your stride than the, than the beer. Yeah, you were playing that up. I know. Keep shocking. You're like the one buddy of mine that didn't realize I was playing that one up. Now granted, the skates were probably two sizes too small to that. There was an aspect of that, but I'm doing the, we're talking before about doing the 1976 swing short stride. I got Hork laughing. You played a perfect biz and then Keith, what is up with your stride? I'm like, dude, you gotta put, I'm on the highway. There's cars going 75 miles an hour past us beeping, let's go buffalo that horn. And I got Keith calling out my stride that was actually maybe the only look at that stride right there. You thought that was real? And I don't know. I figured maybe on the highway, you'd give it your best effort to get off the highway. I hit the rumble strips. I knew the one at the house when you left that guy's neighborhood. That was fucking hilarious that they were waiting for you and shit. But I knew that one was fake. But the one on the highway, I was like, Oh no, what's going on here? Merle's looked like my car. By the way, yeah, Murr. Yeah. So we got to shout out memes. It was his idea to get us on the road like that with a buffalo sign. But we almost had even a better clip because we had to stop it there and when hasn't been on the rollerblades. So he didn't know how to stop on them. So he just peels off down into like a trench. By like a seven foot ravine, buddy. Then I stepped in a thing of mud where my scape went all the way in. But but it was almost in all time. Like I saved myself from going face first into a giant mud pile last second with like amazing flexibility with the left leg stepped up went back. You were like post or knock went back up shadow. I stayed on I stayed on side in the mud pit. So um, yeah, just a great day. Hey, well, fuck, we got to ask you though, before we move on the blade gang, the one in the wrist though Jersey with the bottle of pink Whitney sitting down in the fold out chair. I would fucking I would adopt them. I'd pay I would pay his parents a million bucks to keep them. And the way he said like fuck those guys, what did he say they skate like shit played in the NHL. So we told them what to do right like just guys kind of be chirping us and we're just going to come bombing down the road and and they yeah they over delivered. So that family great people. So the blade gang for them are brothers and that's the house. That's their house. They got an unreal backyard rink and all those all those kids played hockey together growing up south Buffalo. What a cool little neighborhood. I guess Kane grew up maybe one or two streets down. And they were like, dude, this was the hockey house. We all came here, skated every night. The rink we play that's about a mile that way. We watched all the games we played mini sticks upstairs. I mean, there's 10 kids that shout out them they called the Sabres oh to the Sabres invited them to bang the drum. And they said like for you and I think it might have been he's like no no it's like we're not all fly together. We all fly together. Buffalo's like oh sorry like we can't get that many tickets or whatever it was and they called them back 20 minutes there they go all you guys are all wow love that loyalty between the blade gang was great. I don't know if the guy in the Dahlene Jersey was just extra buckled but when they went out for the drum thing it was clear the wrist oh and the lawn chair like he's he seems like the captain leader of the group. Oh yeah. Yeah, he's the he's the alpha male and then the Dahlene one was buckled and he was like kind of in front of the drum and then the other one just grabs him and pulls him to the back. So just from start to finish from like the content from the highway you meet not with them doing the skits you mucking the pregame hot dog going to the I just that's what that's the one thing I want people to remember is that when you got to the game that's not when your day started you were on the highway at noon everyone's going to remember the light the saber sword and I tweeted out you were like Evan Bouchard that night you played 30 yeah I know buddy incredible hockey and you have this one blunder and it's all people you're you're you're basically the the Buckner. This is Paul coffees Paul coffees said to Bush as long as the good outweighs the bad work and by the way Bush had the best game I think I remember his assists in game five were out of control like but so but last thing on this uh Merle's biz texted me yesterday he goes how you feel buddy great job man all time day couldn't have scripted any better I go oh I could have scripted a little better bro Buffalo would have won he's like true um just one more thing on the blade gang how about the other two videos they showed us the first night Risto they went they didn't publish it he's getting carried home legless oh I don't know why they didn't release that they had a video of them carrying Risto home and then later he's at a bus stop and I'm telling you if this bus stop pole isn't there the kids on the on the ground like the bus the bus stop is holding him up and his buddy drives by video and I'm just chirping I'm instead he doesn't pick him up he's like I need why didn't you get me he's like I fuck off dude so winner winner of chicklets cup should get to play them yeah like that it was they have they have a free invite and uh and and and listen I don't know what the plan was I can't really divulge it um you know for next chicklets cup but fuck man I think that there's a strong possibility that we honor these guys and do it in Buffalo I think it's Buffalo loses can't go back I think if Buffalo won that game it was decision was made after the game we announced it after the game and we're going back to Buffalo but now it's it's up in the air it's kind of who wins this series right are they heading to Boston they're looking to go I don't know me I wish we could send them a jet um I got one more thing and it's the perfect segue to our next topic though because we came out of that rank with everybody and at the same time there was more people outside the rink I think partying watching the game than inside but we all met in the same spot and I thought maybe now you were going to get some hate no you were still getting it was almost like you were lifted through the street still thanks for coming with thank you thanks for coming to Buffalo thank you for everything so the fans there are amazing a little different than another fan base that I'm in a battle with right now and Merles what Merles is talking about and Pittsburgh Philly fans are Philly fans really we got army coming on to chat we're gonna get to that Minnesota Mer is is really really running your show and I've been there I'm there right now I've lived in the bubble you're in right now just terror and fear they look amazing they have Matt Boldie Zuccarello's back and they got a chance to end this thing tonight buddy yeah these fans are like ruthless they're almost like they're like personal like where you know some of these fan bases we have fun we're joking with each other call them frauds Merle yeah I didn't realize that was that big of a bad the stuff they're saying to me is a lot worse biz you wouldn't want to be upset about you and your family but they look great and I was afraid of the X factor line Philino's and McCarron the mutants and they have been producing the big goals but yeah I'm in I'm in a lot of trouble here Minnesota looks faster but I don't give up on my Dallas stars Miko Ranton and he's been a little quiet he's gonna have one of those nights tonight like he did against Colorado last year you you have the opportunity right now to change your mind and flip the script and go on the Minnesota train are you taking it I will I will I would take back the fraud comment you can't do that you can't take back it's either they're still frauds or you're hopping on the train fuck you we're not playing middlemen we don't fuck girls they're going after your family don't fucking you don't pay it into this they're 0 and 11 in the last 11 playoff series so add that into it the pressure we just talked about and then biz there's one thing I got I got an ace up my sleeve if Minnesota does get through this series and it's that hat right back there the Colorado avalanche as an alumni of four pre-season games I just I just flip the script real quick and just jump on that you're gonna sick your avalanche on them after this well the original number 29 of the abs we're talking to here base you know that McKinnon took his frigging number now Dallas right now boys they stink five on five they they can't do anything five on five and we've brought up hints not only is he a hell of a player he's fast as shit so like the team speed on Minnesota is obviously better than Dallas um just bonehead mistakes go back to the first goal in game five Tyler Myers has the puck behind the net nobody on him and he fires it off the wall with nobody near him right to Hartman who throws it in front Capri's off gets a shot gets his own rebound unreal pass over to Zuccarello who's back he's back he had three assists in the first game maybe he doesn't play scores the big goal there makes it one nothing and you're like what is going on like Dallas is making mistakes that you just all year they didn't really make they were I I don't know their five on five numbers all year I'm sure somebody'll be able to fill us in on that maybe you could check G but if Minnesota stays out of the penalty box like I can't see him losing this game because Dallas has nothing going five on five which is I mean buddy that's playoffs that's how you win in the playoffs because you've seen these games it's like think think back to right so who got the double overtime winner uh was it Wyatt Johnson in game was that game four or game three was that was game three two or three yeah it was three because uh yeah because they got worked and worked and then bold he got game four bold he got the OT winner in game four so I I man like I well hence makes things a lot easier to to carry it through the neutral zone right so you're getting easier better cleaner zone entries and it alleviates a lot of pressure off of you know a lot of the other guys and also like I thought that Dushane's played a hell of a series like he's been good he's been very visible but at you know ultimately you get a bump a little bit more down the lineup and get some you know get some pressure taken off of him like how much can you really take and I tell you what man big sexy like he's he's brought a lot like the trades right now that Minnesota made are paying dividends and it was I mean that goal the other night he had a fucking unreal goal earlier in the series that was like superstar style goal it looked like fucking boldy going on out there um but yeah it's it just feels like it feels like the superstars are taking over for for many as well Jans you could touch on Zook like I know it didn't it wasn't on his side when they scored on the power play but he's still out there and all of a sudden he's a threat so maybe it's in the back of their mind and uh yeah he ended up having a pretty good impact game one yeah I think he just and we've talked about he just settles everything down so much especially for a guy like Carill a guy like boldy boldy this is his coming I know he played in the Olympics he was amazing in the Olympics but this is him right now proving that he is a superstar in this league he is so damn good like if you look at them right now and you say if we don't if we can choose one guy Carill or boldy for the next eight years who are you taking Carill really well I think that that boldy obviously this series like recency bias right it's probably the same reason that well money wise maybe boldy if you had to but like this is they got him both locked up that's true if you include money I think I think people are definitely saying boldy because like just like he's a game breaker now we we were expecting a little bit more from Carill even though he had a okay game or solid game one and then he maybe disappeared a little bit for a few games but I mean if you look at a stat line if you look at a stat line he's found a way to make an impact in a lot of the games I think he's at what eight points at this point now so not like the worst series for for Caprice off but as far as like individual efforts and what he's been able to do like obviously this has been a major major coming out party this season for boldy including the Olympics not that we didn't know this guy was talented what he could do it's just like hey man going against Dallas first round Dallas has home ice everybody's probably leaning that way thinking they're going to be able to get it done Minnesota with all the the reputation they have of getting beat out in the first round he's just elevated his play and and and yeah that's that's an absolute dog gamer right there I know we're using the word dog a lot these playoffs but Ottinger you can't blame him man I don't know man I was just going to say the exact opposite a little bit the game before an overtime buddy Minnesota was peppered him he might have made like four or five game saving saves that was the most lopsided overtime I've ever watched it was yeah until last night when Pittsburgh did that and Philly still won which is kind of what happens but biz I agree with you on game four but game five all right think of this that boldy shot while perfectly placed it's he's got a hell of a shot there was no screen okay and it wasn't like boldy really leaned into that one so whatever maybe that one's just that good of a shot the McCarron one now first I want to talk about Lindell Maverick Bork and the other defenseman there was uh I wrote it down here um the Bischel Myers again and and McCarron they just stopped at the blue line completely skating McCarron goes by him not only does he get by him Tara Senko beat all three the stars back to the net and then it goes in five hole kind of squeaks through I get you this is not like Dallas fans I don't think they're sitting there like oh Austin's just losing us this series no way but in game five I thought two of those goals I think I think they could have been stopped that that now Minnesota okay Pete who's Pete uh the boy uh Minnesota boys tonight this is the biggest game in franchise history I'm so happy for them I'm so happy it's fun and murals I actually think based on what I get online a lot you you if you went to Minnesota dude it's it's different like people would people would love to have you there I'm telling you yeah you'd get chirped but they would it's not the same as the things people say on Twitter but but they got they got to get through this series man and if they go back to game seven in Dallas then you're thinking of the Rontan and Dame seven against Colorado like he could do it again he hasn't been the same final thing I don't get Jamie Ben that kind of looked like a suspension to me that's a suspension regular season that's a three to five game that's a straight cross check to the head it's one of those things were game one I believe maybe it was game two he goes after boldy when they're crossing and over the blue line okay you get your you know you get your shot in on a superstar try to get under a skin earlier in the season or in the series and then the accidentally on purpose one where you can't really pin it on them I know Minnesota fans are like are you fucking kidding me look at this guy's history it's a laundry list he obviously when he was you know pretending to jump out of the way he kind of gives him that little rabbit punch in the back of the head bold he's down the tunnel if they lose boldy there it might be series over right so that's what Minnesota fans have a massive gripe about even though they don't know what a delay a game penalty is um but that one last game like listen I'm not here saying that Hartman doesn't play with an edge and get underneath guy's skin but clearly he went over the line and Ben already gave him the shot back so the cross check to the net the neck was just like uh like hello and you can tell he kind of panicked right away he realized like that was really bad and like you could see him kind of like he's like oh no like if you ask him right then if you ask him right then he say I'm getting suspended like and then it was just a fine I was surprised I'm seeing from posh a freedman here that Brodeen is out tonight oh no yeah that that's a serious five on five shutdown D man so do you split up favor and use now I don't think so or at least maybe sometimes you can keep them together for 70% of the time and then spread the love maybe other places but they've been so good together I think you got to keep them together as long as you can oh that's a tough loss just Brodeen's such a tough loss just a quiet incredible defensive defense when they can skate like the wind like just a big time if you don't notice him he had another great game yeah now not like obviously I didn't really want to shit on Otter because I wouldn't put the series on him but going to the other net we didn't even think Walsh said was going to get to start the series what a what a job by this young netminder like it's kind of nice man it's like he's looking out the other end he's like that guy you know he's been a playoff so many times and there's a little bit of pressure on him especially with how the how the prior season and postseason had fizzled out he's just sitting there chilling being like I'm playing with the house's money man I'm a young goalie now if I let in a bad one we still got another guy we can go to like I feel bad for that guy at the other end one more thing on on your I remember from back in the game notes daily days the stats they used to chat used to give us the stats on Otter after a loss and it was something incredible so it looked for him to to have the game of the series that he hasn't had one of those games where he just steals he could he could have 40 50 saves tonight steal that game ranting and gets the game winner for us and then just like all these playoffs soon as we think we know something goes the other way it's ups it's downs it's adjustments it's just one little injury like that changes everything so Minnesota closes out at home okay you think so well many wins game one they lose two in a row they win two in a row it would almost make sense that then Dallas gets the one because everyone in the world I feel like picked this thing to go seven but what an atmosphere it's going to be in Minnesota I mean these fans deserve it the what Billy G's done to the team it's going to be a it's going to be a special one tonight I know you guys have the call both games tonight is minnie and Edmonton we do we got both yeah nice and then and then we got the next four or five days off thank god oh nice buddy good for you good for you okay another team that took the lead in their series that is I think surprising people the Montreal Canadians boys and man when you get older and you lose a step and you're not the player you once were it's hard you've seen so many different guys go through it and Brendan Gallagher yeah played a long fucking time he's played 988 regular season games I think it's his 15th season and he hasn't been on the lineup and for a guy that wears a letter like that's it's hard and I think being in Montreal too like addressing the media when it first started where he was getting scratched it's like you feel for that you feel for a guy like that and and you then you see him just being kind of the ultimate pro right like based on last night and Montreal gets to win we'll get into the game he scores the first goal did you guys see his teammates around him during his interview after the game with Kyle Bukowskas beautiful I mean that's like that just shows what they think of this guy and they're all waiting for them they're all celebrating with them and that was a big goal Coop was disgusted with Tampa start that's the picture right there like by the way line is outfit and just straight jeans unbelievable I mean he was probably playing video games till five minutes before then and he's oh shit yeah I love galley we'll go out and say hi to him he had a big goal um but he hooked it up his playstation in the press box he wasn't even watching the game he somehow hot wired the jumbotron and so it's like just fortnight like on the everyone's like what the fuck but um he drives to the net the first couple minutes Coop talked about it after he's like we lost every race every battle they're out skating us and the gal ago was that he just came flying in nobody picks him up buries it won nothing but that series these have been I think these have been the best most entertaining games maybe I'm just maybe I'm not you know biased talking about it but every single game one goal game and before I throw it to one of you guys after the game I tweeted out what a job by Montreal at the end of that game and I was awesome but that's how you close out a game I got crushed for that comment by by Montreal fans and Tampa fans like that was ridiculous they fucking let them snap it around I'm like whoa now they were a little passive on the six on five okay but you either decide we are going to be aggressive and chase which then opens up tic-tac plays here and there or we're going to pack it in and we're going to block a ton of they blocked four shots man they blocked everything and and you know who you know who wasn't passive fucking Utah exactly yeah they were fucking running around trying to force them and then you have good skill players like Marner and Theodore who are like oh yeah watch this guy fucking running around like he's chasing a dog bone and then boom they exposed them open up the seams and they put it right in the back of the net so I agree with you with they don't argue about anything those Montreal fans they don't they just want to argue online they were still upset at the end of the game that they won but you you'll have to know who you're playing against if you're playing against a guy like Karel Kaprizov and you're chasing him if he can get slipped by one guy a seam's gonna open he's gonna hit somebody back door for a tap in so I thought they played it perfectly and going back to Gallagher I know a lot of Montreal fans were wanting him in the lineup after Doc made that uh he iced it and then went out to the point they want to dock out and Gallagher in shout out to Marty for keeping dock in waited a game and then Gallagher came in and just brought like an extra you know extra little bit of juice for them like a guy that's been around for so long you could tell like there was a little more they were playing for when a guy like that's in the lineup you want him to stay in the lineup uh I thought Dobish was their best player Tampa probably I'd give him the edge in that game thought they played a better game but uh I thought Dobish was unreal for them last night or was that last night yeah I know I mean it's been a it's been a great redemption series for some Canadians and you talk about Gallagher like me in a healthy scratch and accepting it but still being a leader in the locker room and you know I don't know you know obviously he's on the back nine but Kirby dock again scores a goal like listen he's a free agent at at the end of this season man like you know a couple games ago after that icing and that that tough playoff of the face off you might never see him in a Canadian's jersey again and all of a sudden he bounces back with the goal in a sys game and then has another big one that fourth line for Montreal or some people are saying hey it's not the fourth line like I don't know exactly if I want to call the Dano line the fourth line like either way they're getting limited ice they're a bottom six line and they are bringing the noise with that Texye and Bull Duke which I'll never understand that trade by St. Louis um yeah that was a tough one for me to go back to that six on five at the end it was it was crazy how close Matheson was playing into the net just leaving uh Kutrow over there and I was like what are they doing what are they doing but then I thought back to the small stat I happened to see before that Texye goal Kutrow one goal in his last 19 playoff he's a passer he's looking for Hagel back more so that's what they just let him they sunk in and let him let him go shoot go shoot Kutcha and he didn't want to and he hasn't wanted to and and that was just great coaching there by whoever runs their five on six in Montreal I was wondering if it was Marty just take to take exactly this front the shot front the shot they Radish didn't even really get I think one shot Radish might have hit Dobish in the head but they packed it in and they let I think it was Radish going down to Hagel and Dobish did make a great save he came in with the backhand or maybe it was Gensel but I was like man you can't chase him and they know you chase Kutch he's going to find somebody you've already seen the back doors to Hagel but for Montreal if you told me that uh through five games Caulfield had one Suzuki had no goals Demidov had no goals Newhook has no goals Hudson Hudson's been their best player he's got two and three and five games and I don't think you'd think that they'd be up in this series right like it's been it's been surprising now Vasilevsky he's he's also announced as a Vesna finalist but that Texie goal man it's just that's that's a save when they're winning cups he makes every single time hits his glove shot from the outside squeaks through and they got the lead with about I think there was about what 18 minutes left when he scored that early in the third and they hold on and I think Tampa has a lot more to give I I think I picked this one in seven I think I did I wouldn't be surprised if they go in there I'll put it this way I don't think both Mini and Montreal close their series out at home I I don't know the teams they're planning that's are too good but based on last night like if Caulfield can pop off or Suzuki can get his first then then we could see this thing ending the crowd's going to be wild but Dovish man we thought I thought at times coming down the stretch at the end of the regular season that it would be foulers in that Dovish have been great as well and then they went with Dovish he got so hot and Bizz you said it he was he was nails at the end he was nailed you're seeing a few teams get to be able to get it done without like their first line taken over right like Montreal maybe a little a little more surprising based on how dominant they were in the regular season but you saw it with Carolina in the first round where you know it's it's a very comforting thing knowing that you don't need your first line going like Ajo and Jarvis and to me it was it was Stankin Hall that carried them through that series rather than the big guys so this time of year man you need everybody stepping up in Montreal specifically between the the fourth line and now obviously between those other guys they get it done yeah Lane Hudson's been crazy what a what a what a playoff for him so far the amount of ice he's lugging he's like a he's like old school Carlson right now yeah Jake Evans on the ice for one scoring chance against and one 85 percent of his face off so like that's a guy that just he's a playoff type player do you remember last year they were talking about trading him at the deadline no they resign him great idea great move by Montreal to keep him and what was the last thing oh so Canadian fans have been calling for lightning fans diving and they still think Kooch dove on that cross they've had a few themselves exactly that bulldoke one yesterday yeah Kooch the lumberjack just gives him a whack but it was he sold it he sold that one that's part of this game this series has been intense great games one gold games I would think we see another overtime game in game six just based on how even these two teams are but anything else in this series for many you guys no excited for game six Gensel most goals per game by an American in the history of the Stanley Cup playoffs got his 43rd goal in his uh I think it was like a 79th playoff game something like that I'll never I'll never understand why why Pitt didn't sign up yeah that's I'll keep saying just because of he's automatic and playoffs like I don't know if you're worried about you know his regression as he gets older but he's just one of those players that has a knack for he's he's always going to be in the right place like he's not afraid to go to the hard areas like he just like he's a fucking gamer I love Jake the snake and his his hockey IQ like I know we talk about it a lot and some guys aren't as fat like you look at a guy like Mark Stone not that fast but they're hockey IQ and that takes over in playoffs right when the game's faster and everybody else is panicking with the puck and you look over at Jake Gensel and he's just cool as a cucumber just doing his thing scoring goals but he also plays fucking hard like he gets in the shit like he's in every scrum that there's got I mean there's a ton of scrums in this series alone but he's not afraid to get in there he obviously knows what it takes to win crazy crazy biz that pett's pray got rid of him but he's doing his thing once again in Tampa he was chirping the Canadians after he scored that goal he went by his bench and was giving it to their bench so yeah you see some intensity coming out of him but he is just money in the playoffs and we'll see if Cooch can I think we could all agree based on his regular season there's a little more for Cooch yeah I think Cooch and Vassie is the biggest they gotta be their best players these next two even Cooch losing the puck at the blue line when I think Evan's got that but like I've never seen him do that it's just I like obviously there's been a few games where we've been on air on TNT like we didn't have that game um it could be like a classic case of the top lines going at one another and like canceling each other out right like so that's like these guys are so good I mean I think that Suzuki is probably going to win the Selkie is that kind of I think we can all agree well he's going to be top three right so all of a sudden maybe he's taken on more of a defensive responsibility rather than focusing on getting his cookies hoping that the other guys can kind of figure things out and so far that's been the case so you know you you don't know you you don't always need to make an impact on the score sheet to have a big impact on the series yep no doubt any thoughts on the Russians being checked out ready to go home already got a Stanley Cup well I don't know it used to be that they'd really want to play in the world championships but they can't do that either so I don't know no based on how they've played in in prior years but they can't win games at home in the playoffs for four years now they do not have a good record in that arena um my buddy Maxime Lapierre funny treaty bis bis tweeted out his pajama Montreal Canadians I think he's got pajamas for every team every day when he's got his pajamas with his coffee he said stay away from my team but he's been going at the crowd in Tampa saying how quiet it is just a dead arena which I mean that place has been buzzing before but here's a stat right here Tampa has lost 10 of its last 12 home games in the postseason despite 460 consecutive sellouts we should get Max Lapierre on oh yeah he said he would and he's got a show I want to go on I want to I said it go on his um wants playoffs like cools down a little bit but um yeah what's up Mer Tampa even tried they had our boy Groot and come on before the game to fire them up and did you hear about it wit no so in Tampa they got these big um lightning chugs like these beer things are lightning that you can drink out of he probably said he declined it he said no I'll just do the horn did he actually and he's skateboarded to the game you're fucking around that ain't true what a legend oh my god um all right my Oilers boys they stayed alive they did it they weren't going down at home it's a uphill battle we're going into the pond we're back to Anaheim tonight 10 o'clock eastern I don't know what to think I think they're gonna win this series oh fuck what do you mean I'm not even trying to bloody they after what oh tell me why tell me why because Connor looked like he was not hurt anymore like one thing he looked like he was skating better he looked way more confident and they just looked like they kind of just finally just settled in I don't know and I feel like uh I feel like Anaheim like you'll see a push here but I just I think it's that point where Edmonton's like ah we got to get our juices flowing to really find our game like kind of like bush like I got to be last man back toadran really get my juices flowing to get in it get involved in playoff hockey but I just feel like they're there and uh I yeah I just they're good the Ingram looked solid I he looked great he looked he looked great right it was a good call to go back to him although like other than the last goal I didn't think Jari was that bad but uh no I think they looked a lot more sound defensively a lot less bullshit and uh it seems like they've they figured things out that's why I think that wait docile is giving up the first shot of a goal of a game 12 times this year he's been he's been not good in this series like that he was big in the game uh was it the one that went to overtime the OT the yeah the the other viral clip I had where I was wrong yeah the couple saves yeah I don't make David and yeah no he uh yeah he looked good in that game but other than that I I kind of agree with you it's been a bit of a shit show in that the series I gotta ask wait was it Stoff that put out that Connor McDavid is a game time decision I think that's gamesmanship I think they did that on purpose because I feel like maybe you know you have a younger group we've talked about the leaders they have in Anaheim but there's probably a lot of younger players and I I would assume that they're on social media and they're probably here and there's oh oh and then all of a sudden their focus goes to that rather than the fact that they got to close out and win a game regardless if he's in the lineup or not I think that that is pure pure gamesmanship along with Dickinson right they said the same thing about Dickinson and he played I think Dickinson always like he looks a little more banged up he's he's obviously like he had that game one where he's dominant and then he doesn't even play game two he's hurt the entire end of the regular season he's legit probably like going out in warms like I think I could do it but really hurt where your new McDavid was playing I agree with you though based gamemanship and and shout out Knoblock I mean he put McDavid and dry saddle together from the start of the game I don't think you can do it tonight based on like having not having the ability to throw them out there with last change but you know Nugent Hopkins with Pod Colson and Hyman that looked pretty good that Pod Colson man I don't know what Vancouver was thinking he fights he hits he scores but Bouchard player of the game in my mind the first the first assist he fires it through the zone to Pod Colson unreal pass that was a great shot that assist at the end when he dishes it to McDavid who goes over to Leon I think it was the fourth goal buddy like having been a defenseman the balls this guy has to fake a behind the back pass on a rolling puck at his blue line to then take a very quick like forward stride and open open up the hips and then snap it over that was that was sick and I think that's a set play you think so no no I think well you see McDavid yeah it goes outside the blue and then now he's going towards the Ducks net so I think that that it's like his job there is to bait one of them I think because of pailing and how fast he is and how fast he closed on him Colorn ended up biting as well I think that they're like we got him we got him so then the the goal there is to bait one of them and then get that puck over the other side as McDavid skates into it I'm not saying like it's a perfectly set play but like there's really no reason for McDavid to be outside the zone and getting speed to come back towards Anna Hyams net unless they're trying to do that play where they go back over to him right I agree that it's like set up for him to get going downhill just but to get it to him that way was was incredible like it's still up to boost to somehow figure it out um yeah and that that that play by the play by McDavid too like a lot of guys would get that and either pass it right away or shoot it but he held on to it for that one extra second to make those styles set yeah right in the middle of the net and then he know you know he's going to pass it but he has to set in the middle and can't move his feet and then he slides it over to Leon and obviously that's Leon Spott he's like uh he's like uh Gunther over there and buddy you just said there though like like we know he's passing it but when you look at the replay he's looking right at the goalie he's cocked ready to shoot it where these guys work on selling it and that's why we talk about like pasta sometimes his playmaking ability and you see him coming off the wing sometimes where you're like oh he's going to zip that thing and then it's like boom he changes his wrist over and he's fucking zipping it back door right on the tape to somebody so these guys have fine tuned those skills to make the goalies bite come out set their feet and it makes a world of difference because these guys are such good skaters and they get such a good push these goaltenders where if you don't do that they're going to get over and make that save like right it's yeah it's remarkable it was like the Vassal remember the Anderson goal I think it was game one or something when Anderson went short side he had someone back door but Vassie cheated it a little bit but he's got eyes on the goalie these guys are so good at just knowing they have that option to pass it but they're also forwards where they're thinking shot first yeah that's a great that's a great call on that Anderson goal big time he cheated on that one if you want to use your back channels to win this game for us tonight and they are splitting up Leon and McDavid I'm going to teach the coach what to do okay you if McDavid's lines out there you can have Leon Dreyseidle changing for McDavid Leon changes for the first forward that comes so that way there is some overlap on their lines I see it every time they're changing for each other so there's none of that overlap okay they can great call together and that could be the the X factor tonight get them 20 seconds maybe together snapping around that's a great call I love that I would say like just Oilers score first they've scored first in every game the Ducks are just they come back it seems like they were the number one team this year they just come back all the time in the third period two in this series they've done it but should be a great one I think that crowd I mean they've been waiting for a series win for a long time in quenville being there that's what's scary like just the ability to calm down a team trying to close it out he looks he looks few I thought his mustache was gonna fall off I thought he was like this with his mustache it's so funny he's doing the dive hey do we know anything about the butcher what's his status I don't know I think he's still hurt right he'd be in the lineup right if unless he comes back tonight that means he had been a scratch just don't lose to the fourth line for the Ducks that line finally was a little more quiet if they go out and beat us again it's it's just a tough feeling but very excited for tonight murals thank you so much for hopping on buddy we're gonna bring in the arm dog 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made it a series but in the end it wasn't enough yeah it wasn't enough boys thanks for having me on murals great job what a beauty hey can't can you believe we got 99 on our show i know already worked by you guys i don't believe well murals his idea too with the 99 cup which we did like a snake draft of picking players gretz actually pardoned me for my punishment i was supposed to have to score 995 goals and and pass to someone like 2000 billion times to do all this my back would have been blown out oh god you'd have to make your own you'd have to go to wits house you would have looked like me on the road blades i would have had i would have been skating like that absolutely so pretty amazing i and and he also said and i know murals has this rule right and i think we all kind of agree you can't wear 99 because it's the great ones number like yeah i don't do that tj watt did it but yeah he wants guys to wear it he told me he said hey army like i know you guys say this but if you want to wear 99 in beer league army you can wear 99 i almost pardon buddy i almost melted it's a great one you know and he's just on there telling great stories you know how he is he's amazing so that was amazing for show 99 for game notes but the that night after i did that show game six for the pens boys and i'm telling you like i had high hopes like when they won game five and they started to look good i'm like oh shit okay here we go we got something cooking um i went from like if we win game five it's gonna go seven that's how i felt and then going into game six i'm like if we win game six we're winning the series the pens are winning the series like they just had mojo they had momentum um and i give the flyers a ton of credit man like you have to buddy holy shit first of all games one to three they were on a mission like they were feeling it they were rolling kutcheri a amazing they're young guys amazing they put bump in the lineup and scratch mechkov bump scores amazing like everything they got some good good young players coming in there right now and then they put mechkov in and he sits on the ot winner last night he was dangerous couple chances yeah he had a break away i can't believe he didn't tuck that one in on the goal he's pretty crafty in and around the net like down low oh the later one when he was behind him the same shift he had the break away later in the shift yeah he came out from behind he kind of went down low and then had had she loves kind of looked like out of position and kind of did like a little sneaky little maneuver to try to tuck it in behind him somehow it stayed out but those goalies were keeping everything out last night it was it was insane that was a great zero zero like yeah it got it got a little uneventful i would say in the last half the game i would say after the first five minutes uh last 15 minutes of the first period flyers were coming hard on the fork check like they were getting pucks turned over i felt like flyers were the better team probably the first half of the game and then things kind of got in that stalemate situation where especially in the third like it's like oh they're like nobody wants to make a mistake but yeah i agree the two stars of the game were the goalies i felt like both teams like they weren't getting the puck up enough like there was a lot of like like pad saves where it's like oh you just got to elevate it and it's a free goal army i gotta ask you though like there were some career years for players on the pittsburgh penguins that i was a little underwhelmed with come playoff time and it's hard right like some of these guys aren't experienced a few other guys are but maybe haven't found their their playoff game yet very disappointed in matha uh chinacov was was not the same player he was in the regular season um let's let's start there well yeah and career years from both of them chinacov came over he had 18 goals and i think 43 games with the penguins when he came over matha career year 33 goal regular season uh free agent at the end of the year as well oh by the way 20 career playoff games seven assist zero goals for matha he had an unbelievable opportunity also in that game that puck kind of popped to him out of the end his brain died like there's three times playoff goal no he's never scored a playoff goal can you believe in 20 games there was three times he was around the net where i'm like oh this guy just like legit forgot how to play hockey for five seconds in that in that well the winner the winner i don't know he's you just got to be in the lane of york okay so michikov has the puck over there i forget who's on him and he's standing he's standing in the middle of the ice where he's not he doesn't have his head on a swivel so he's not seeing that york's moved over if he slides over and york gets that he's not shooting it or he's at least maybe missing the net if you're in the right lane but he got it and then matha panics to get over it's like oh bud you just gotta you gotta know where you are as michikov dishes it across or don't even let him dish it across if you're higher michikov made that pass on his backhand that should never ever like was that a pretty risky pass by michikov i think he saw that he saw matha was nowhere yeah i know but like it was a danger zone kind of play you know but like for him he just got healthy scratch he's back in the lineup he was buzzing pretty good obviously has offensive confidence in himself like he's he's an offensive guy but to make a backhand pass at that stage of the game and that was in the corner he was well i know i had no stick you know when you have no stick and you don't know what to do that's what he looked like you have to either be in the lane or be low enough so if york does get in or in the lane to come out and block that he was he was just straight up in no man's lane he was he was not only was he not in the lane he was he was backed off like he was like yeah i would say he probably had 10 feet to get that backhand over to york where he had no pressure on him and and like you said when you have that angle from behind the net you're seeing you're like why is he standing where he is from at this so i would say a very a very forgettable series where you could it's almost like you could visibly see that the moment was getting to him a little bit yeah he's he's very casual you know i think through his career he looks casual like he's big and he's like he has pretty silky mitts you know he has pretty good hands um like on that chance out front he went to go like to his backhand quick and it just like duffed it like like the urgency to like score like pound it in like you know to do that he's just different that way he was like that all year but he scored 33 but in the playoffs when it ramps up and it got a little tighter um it was hard it's same with chinakov like the flyers were were really good in the neutral zone early in that series he's an off the rush guy great skater smart heads up guy had pretty good chemistry with novak and melkin on that line but they couldn't get anything going like the flyers talk has them playing like a really good brand of hockey to get in the playoffs they lost it for a little bit after they got up three nothing they lost that what is it scumbag you call them busy we all call them that because like they do play a little scummy i was going to ask you about that like do you feel like they were being a little greasy early on like to me to me i go back and listen pittsburgh had its moments too right like you saw the hair pull like even last night even though lasot didn't get him clean like he kind of missed him and then and then uh marco you know shooting it into the coach oh yeah yeah yeah i mean it was chippy early and definitely flyers kind of carried that early and that was kind of a thing that was worked for them it really worked for them then the penguins started turn it they started to get their legs i don't know if they were like totally like my feeling is i don't think they were like they had time off they clinched early they sat guys going into the playoffs and i think it just like they were caught flat early the team and and you gotta shout out for dar and and i wonder on pittsburgh's side i wonder if you go to she loves a little earlier he was i mean he was gonna play great though that's saved last night when he dropped his stick and in the in the oh my god tone hit his stick that would i thought he saved it uh live like with this with his pad but he was unreal like i mean yeah but vladar boys had never started a playoff game before this series didn't have a shutout this year in 51 games got two in the series penguins were out shooting the flyers 10 to 1 at one point in overtime and he just stood tall gave some great interviews after the game i think there was a moment in that game when he kind of was bark yeah biz throw it on he was barking at his team a little bit wake the fuck up it wasn't at the bench but i think it was like around his net i mean how about this that he became the fifth goalie in franchise history with a series clinching shutout and the most saved by a flyers goaltender in a series clinching victory so 937 161 this series just an incredible display and i don't know if this was gamemanship or talk being a veteran but when they iced that puck i think it was the second period they'd had about a three minute shift i don't know how they didn't get a penalty dude i know and i couldn't believe mues wasn't flipping out or that he just he just kind of figured out a way to get these guys all this extra oh no he wasn't on the ice he's supposed to be on the ice i think talk was telling the ref like oh let me help you i'll tell you who's supposed to be out there and i came over with the paper i thought mues would be snapping and he he could tell he was upset but at that point another coach is screaming at the ref like they're fucking resting right now like get them back out there talk let's explain that for people who don't maybe know exactly what you're talking about yeah okay so when you ice the puck you have to keep all the guys on the ice that have been out there right you cannot change after an icing an old rule now a great rule i think and there never can be a tv time out after an icing either or in the middle of a power play because they don't want the chance for the guys to rest and stuff like that well i i want to say it was around a three minute shift those guys were caught out there oh yeah and they iced the puck i think tippet might ice the puck and all of a sudden philly just caused enough madness and like commotion that they were they fooled the refs they basically fooled the refs well it's it's kind of like like teams do it all the time right you throw out a couple extra guys so all of a sudden there's nine guys on the ice and then the lionsman are trying to like be like no no no you can't go and then they got to figure that out and it's been happening since they they obviously came up the rule because anytime you do you find a way to try to abuse it and and get away with it and what sometimes happens is when you do that and you're being scummy about it then then they'll give you a delay a game penalty because that's exactly what you're doing which i thought they could have got one there man absolutely sometimes it's a little bit more obnoxious than others and then the refs and you know they do enforce it to call that type of penalty in playoffs in a big moment like that talk and coaching staff very smart because a lot of refs don't have the balls to do it in that moment although i think yeah let me ask you this do you think it's like now like you see them coming over with the they have to get everything right you know when that big scrum happened in philly too brine russ and connect me we're going at it that was a 10 minute delay that was insane delay and then they had the sheet and the numbers and everything like they have to get it right i think back in like you know a few years ago the refs would have been like you five fucking guys get in there you know it's a hard job and this has been what rod's been trying to enforce and every time he gets asked about it he goes buddy i've been saying this since i came into league as a head coach like we asked so much from these referees where you wanted to get it right but there's a million things going on it's going a million miles an hour we use video replay for for a fucking offside why wouldn't like for instance in the scrum that they had where their player walker got sucker punched just go to the video go to the fucking video you'll see exactly who did what in the scrum it'll be solved way faster than it was it won't take 10 minutes the the refs will be able to see oh this is what went down when i was scrumming it up trying to separate deloria and brady kachuk throwing bombs and i was trying to survive and and keep my own life going here so i what happened there that was a big moment though with to your point though because it was the penguins fourth line actually a flyer's fourth line played really good too and they put forester down on that fourth line last night and that was a big difference maker but at that moment in the game too it was it was a penguins fourth line which was really good for them all year long just a great energy they were awesome last night yeah charry doer lezat they've been great all year and they they they started looking and started dictating like energy they're kind of like an identity line for the penguins a little bit but they had the shift and then what they would do is they they'd stack a shift and then boom crossbees line would come up and that was the one time in the game though where they really had him drinking out of a fire hose and they got that icing and then the three-minute talk delay on the who's who's out here the funniest clip was talked to like i can help i'm pretty sure he's like let me help you out it was like oh this veteran did reservations i got i got a great speak easy for you after the game hey but to brindlemore's point like especially during playoffs there's always an extra ref anyways have him with an ipad in the room with a microphone that says hey it was tippet connect me uh barky and like it can be two seconds and they can tell you who's on the ice yeah that's a good call i mean you see the world championships and they got the microphones the refs and you could have that backup ref in case of injury just watching everything that's a good idea and then you don't even really have to go to the box and review it you're just getting word in um but let's talk philly and their fans for a second i was very happy for them i know i've said scumbag scumbag city not a big fan but fuck i saw a video it was a cell phone video from maybe last row in the balcony of when that goal went in and buddy they went nuts they were so fired up and what's crazy is we were texting on the group chat that they were panicked during all the time oh yeah oh yeah you could watch eggshells watching on tv you could sense like this is the series almost like if we're going back to pittsburgh i don't know if we're getting this thing done the reverse sweeps it there's a chance for a reverse sweep and it just seemed the nervous energy couple let's go flyers chance got started they'd end quick and not to mention like how are you supposed to not be panicking as the penguins are peppering them i think biz sent to the group that through about 10 to 12 minutes of ot achari lasot and they'd played more than crossbee but but they they deserve to be out there they had to fuck in the zone the entire time uh i know there was a couple chances of charry had a one-timer and vladar just stood tall and then for cam york to get that goal so when they interviewed him on the bench after it said six career playoff goal i was like what i was so confused it was wrong it was his first he hadn't scored since january this year just the perfect shot we talked about not the correct coverage wasn't there but man he snaps that one who was screening in front it was was it was a it might have been shazy for the pens i forget which guy was tall and wasn't it oh no no martin was it forester i think it might have been a forester i think it was a forester okay and another guy i know we talked about him earlier with the blade gang risto lineman for he's never played in the playoffs six games one goal four assist him and him and sanheim were unbelievable this series like another one of those guys you talk about it with manta like when you look at him you're like oh my god this guy's built for playoffs like risto's regular season like the during the regular season he was okay one goal 13 assist but like just a guy when you can get him in the playoffs and i know he has never played in the playoffs he he was unbelievable for them and obviously a a guy that can clear the front of the net so vladar can see everything him and sanheim doing such a good job against sid so shout out to him like especially he's waited 15 years or what is it 10 years to play in the playoffs he made like one mistake like when manta like bumped him off the puck in game five and they saw solderblom scored to start game five like that was pretty young but he was he would like risto lineman was rock solid like i thought he was more like thinking of him you think of him more as like a big rock steady physical guy that can move pucks he can fly too like he pumps it through the neutral zone and he takes it in the offensive zone and he did a lot of really good things for them he was super important for them it's crazy hasn't had playoff games no question but like he was good the one guy that was like unbelievable like kind of redemption in a different role than people are probably used to see like sean couturier was unreal he was unbelief like so impactful in games one two and three didn't notice some of the next few games the penguins won then last night game that game six he was a horse like selkie shit like he's so good at stripping pucks like wedging the little can openers on the wall like stripping it off guys he's so big he's just crafty and smart and then when he was when he's going like that hanging on the pucks he settles the game down he has poise he can take contact like he settled the game down for them a lot they use the line a lot but when he was going like that he changed like the flyers game kind of like at times they're drinking out of a fire hose air mailing pucks out of their zone the penguins had some good stuff going but they they shut it down like it was hard for the penguins to get inside man it was it was hard little shots and stuff but like they made it hard all series and and then velodar was a brick wall so like pretty amazing their fans though gritty was like beating the shit out of a penguin like doing crimes on him throwing the penguin off the top deck down on the fans fans were grabbing the penguin in the rink and they were doing crimes like insane beatings on these penguins when gritty would show up malkin's walking into the rink before game six last night and like a eight year old kid is yelling malkin you suck on on social media like that's so that was battle of pennsylvania there you go the flyers fans they put the fillies on the big screen they're booing the fillies yeah no it was it was a battle of it was definitely a great battle of pennsylvania i was hoping it would go seven but the way that it ended to close it out you get you guys nailed it i'm going back to like ristos got pretty like you would think for a big mutant like that pretty underrated puck skills like he's not like he's decent really good makes the great first pass like you guys said i thought that their their their big mutant d just really showed up i was very very impressed with sealer and the way that he's yeah close off lock shots he he moves he moves pretty good like defensively he moves a bit like a gazelle man he like closes on guys quick no time and space i mean you guys i mean sanheim it speaks for itself um and then i think those i think those other two like york and drysdale more like moved great dancers good skater puck movers but they played they played gritty yeah they played hard they blocked shots they took hits to go back and get pucks and move them like they played a hard game and it was i was curious with those guys because i don't think we look at those two guys as those kinds of players but talks got him he's got him bought in he's got him bought in and listen man we talked about it right away like like michkov was a non-factor in the first four games of the series talk it like taking them out of the lineup like he knew he was going to get stalled in the fan base was going to turn that into a fucking massive shit show online he still did it anyway he let him get the reset and then he put him back in and i loved i loved the line he put him on because you mentioned forster i actually thought that he fit better on the katorie line like i liked him where he was at and like it's not even it's kind of like it's kind of like the penguins like yeah i guess in the curbie dock like you can call it a fourth line but when they're playing and they're going they're throwing them over the boards like they're not just treated like it's not it's not an old school fourth line it's not an old school fourth line and i felt that forster and katorie they were vibing well and like were having good shifts just the same way that bump and and michkov were and and ultimately i thought that he had all the right buttons and he had him playing the way that he they did and yeah what a remarkable job from top to bottom for that they were desperate they were desperate like they had to win that i feel they had to win it and they did and and and when things are going right as a coach which they are right now for talk when he scratched me cough bump comes in and scores a beauty it's like it that's just when you're everything you touch back in and michkov gets the assist on the ot winner i know what do you what do you guys honestly make of how much noise came out of like online when when he did that i think it just shows me how confident talk is in his cell in himself in his own skin knowing what's better for the team is maybe setting this guy out for one game you knew he probably wasn't going to take it the right way he might have had a 20 i heard he stormed out of the room no i think at all that was just rumors and bullshit okay all right that that hopefully he took it the right way it is kind of crazy though that like in philly there's like a i wouldn't say it's all their fans but there's like a crazy section of fans that are like crazy about mechkov like you can't do anything to mechkov he's like an untouchable guy it's like the social media stuff with them and like they're like a gang it's like a mechkov gang we've said all year they're very very desperate for a young superstar and well they got it in my home and that's the thing as martin and he slowed down a little bit as a series on it's still really good but the points stopped the last few games as he gets better it might quiet down a little bit if they're like oh my god it's this guy but you know what i as a guy who started the mechkov can't skate thing he was good last night he had a couple we've already said that i was just more asking like man like i've never seen where it's like taking what he did in the first four games and then taking him out it becoming such a story and a distraction online i think is the craziest i've ever seen for somebody who it's like he didn't do anything for four games like why are why are you saying you want what are they seeing what are they seeing they're like they're literally like we want the coach fired again like it's like he just took you from being a lottery team to the second round of playoffs he's done this with two teams that he's taken over in their in their first year like what's i actually think no matter what biz that he would have played next game had they won in pittsburgh he's in the first game against carolina and then if they lose he put him back in obviously so i think it was a one game reset and it worked so fires fans i think they're fired up today and they deserve to be another thing katori a 73.1 in the face off yeah that's decent that's decent horse horse like he looks huge on the ice too he looks huge so i want to say this too it's sorry to flyers fans and yens you know this you played there but like i sent out that tweet after game five sids on a three game point streak like he kind of willed the team to a victory to take it to game six like just leadership i sent out that tweet of like his eyes you know when he was on the bench oh yeah that thing went viral and i was like oh oh no and and all the flyers fans and they didn't really say much and it was mostly positive like yeah sids sids unreal fucking ot winner york throws a stick off a guy's dome and then all of a sudden i opened my social media buried they were waiting two days to these guys are psychos they're sick fucks they're sick puppies man i can't believe we didn't mention the stick throw the stick throw throw it like he threw it i don't know if he meant to hit the bench but he said after he's like i hope i don't get a lawsuit or anything i saw the video in the stands of like i think an older guy in front ended up getting it somebody caught it uh maybe off the head i'm not exactly sure but i don't think there was any probably everyone's so fired up they don't care now you knock somebody's teeth out maybe you got a different story he hummed that thing in the body they would let you baseball swing them in the face to go to the second round of playoffs are you kidding me but like you think of like when i think of the stick throw mark sabar did it but like you threw it nice like did it yeah throw someone a golf club or a stick you throw it like that he hum chuckled it sideways like a death star trying to kill someone it was a Australian boomerang yeah like just hammered it i couldn't believe how it just snapped out of his hand like that was not that was a laser beam sizzler right in there they were all taking pictures and videos and passing it around after getting each other with it like it was an infinity torch they're like give me that penguin yeah give me that penguin stuffed penguin again i can choke it out with this stick from cam york but uh army i know that you know you're a penguins guy you work for them but happy you had to be a little happy for your brother i know he works for the flyers and that's awesome for him and let's kind of bring it into next round i mean this is uh i don't know if i remember seeing and correct me here g the canes are minus 275 i think the whole world's picking picking carolina i'm wondering on business pick here with the vladar if they can keep it running but i think it's gonna be tough man like yeah maybe the rest in the first game philly having buzzed i don't know when that series will start maybe on monday so they're gonna have a little rest too i'm picking carolina i'm kind of bought into carolina they made me just look like a complete fool against auto a philly's got something special cooking but man you look at how good sanheim and ristalad and where they're playing 26 minutes a game carolina doesn't really need to do that they they got more depth up front more depth in the back if vladar could keep this up that would be a big moment i don't know who wants to kind of start it with your thoughts on this series i think that elers is banged up right now they're saying he might not play in the second round really yeah that would be a pretty significant loss of speed uh to that third line he'd been playing with stallzy um who else is uh who else is a little bit they have that hall they have that hall stank oven uh that was their best line that line's going that line oh nikisha got knocked out yeah yeah so he might not be playing either i think yeah but in a yellow jersey go ahead go go ahead yance we'll let you talk on this first i think i honestly think in the way carolina played obviously they they worked over auto but i don't think auto was a test where we can really really see what carolina is made of i don't think they you know created enough offense got enough ozone time stuff like that so i i think it's going to be a better series than people think i think uh the speed of philadelphia the coaching with philadelphia the way that their d can move they got a big d so i honestly think this is going to be a lot tougher series than people think i think people think this is going to be a cake walk for carolina into the conference finals but i truly think the way the mojo is going in philadelphia right now the way that if the young guys can continue to help out if kuz can continue to play the way that he has uh obviously we talked about risto in sanheim um if those guys can do what they did against sid i i think this is going to be a really good series and i think i think philly can pull it off in seven yeah oh wow okay i was thinking about going philly in seven i'm gonna i'm gonna the reason i'm gonna switch i'm gonna go over to carolina in seven i agree with you guys like some people think this will be a cake walk um i'm gonna give edge to the flyers and net although anderson was and he was great he was he was great but i'm gonna give it to vladar the way that he played in round one and all season long um i think that the problem here is though boys is philly's power play is absolutely dog shit and carolina has one of the best penalty kills so unless like something miraculous happens overnight that's not going to solve itself so i think overall special teams carolina is going to dominate and i just think that ultimately the speed will wear philly down and the fact that they had to go a little deeper and they've been playing they've been playing playoff hockey for basically the last two months i hate to go against my boy talk it's not that i'm doubting the philladelphia flyers here i just think that um experience energy and uh special teams and uh will play a major factor in this one so i got i got carolina hurricanes and seven games i i go ahead with go ahead army i just i i think that like i think the flyers play a certain style of hockey that it like i i did game three ottawa carolina in ottawa i was down between the benches was awesome um i i think ottawa tries to play more like that rotady like offense and stuff and on the outside yeah they get there they're trying to you know get skilled and they can easily frustrate like stuzo and these guys and you know fancy couple guys on the outside yeah brady's running guys over but i think philly like plays us a more of a team style suited to to kind of battle it out battle it out a little bit with the canes do i think they're gonna beat the canes i don't know i think i think canes will win in like six games tops but i think it'll be more better than you think i think philly matches up better okay fuck all you guys i'm turning into the biggest scumbag of all time yeah yeah exactly you are scumbag i my my thought process on this series and biz you said it last episode spetchnikov aho and jarvis being quiet in the first round like yeah it's not gonna stay that way i just can't imagine those guys like not kind of lighten this team up um if philly can split in carolina which has has looked impossible for teams in the playoffs right in the first few rounds then we got a series on our hands if they go down there and they lose those first two like you're not beating that team four out of the next five games and that's how it would maybe end in five i got carolina in six i think it's going to be a good series but it's that top line being quiet with a sweep it's like apparently jarvis is battling something too oh he is that's what i forgot to say yeah that's okay okay now i heard somebody listen like i i don't dig i don't dig i heard it might be a little bit of a like a like a shoulder or something that's what somebody said that's a that's a big deal if him and elis are both battling something and elis isn't even playing could be dead wrong though could also be just like an internet idiot but at that point do you put catorier on the hall line like do you sick him against that line they'll have a plan they'll have a plan to slow that line down buddy i'm looking at the flyers lineup and how they just like have bought in and what they're doing and i'm gonna i'm taking carolina i'm going back to seven games i'm going to seven games i think it's going to be a hell of a series i just carolina i think i'm just so scarred from what i just witnessed in ottawa they didn't fucking have they didn't trail for one second guys no i know and going into the playoffs you're like ottawa's a better team than philly it's like but philly just completely flipped everything on its side nobody really picked them i think i saw the espn picks they had 29 people 26 of them had the penguins so they're used to they're used to being doubted i can't wait till this starts i hate you know they're writing a great story man it's like they're probably the best story of the playoffs that they're writing nine points out after 60 games played nhl record to battle back and get in and like they're they're they're the one team that's really writing an awesome story for themselves and especially with a lot of their young guys too like a lot of their young guys kind of coming on the scene here and they have a chance to really like make something for themselves and their first experience in the playoffs you know it's it's it's it's pretty cool like from bladar to york to martin to bump to i don't know bonk almost got in they got all these guys they got a lot of bees yeah bumps and bumps and bonks these little bees uh okay so who's caroline is mascot because right now i have the x factor in the series is ready yeah i almost feel like amilton the pig it was did they retire him they still have the pig on the shoulder patch no but it's like it's like come on it's not even close to as cool as gritty as much as i hate the icehog stormy yeah shouldn't you guys know this aren't you guys affiliated no wait well we got doile like our echl mascot is 20 times cooler than the caroline hurricane's mascot no offense uh but i think an x factor for sure is gritty yeah it's almost like trip tracy's gonna have to like somehow combat that and i'll tell you this for free i'd suck a hammer right now to get his breakdown like right literally right now i want to hear that what that guy has to say about this fucking series holy shit i wouldn't give anything to hear that call buddy it's almost like we need trip versus gritty that's what the they should just fucking get well then it'd be the flyers in four oh you legend i don't know about that i don't know about that yes trip in green now start now i'm starting though to fake like because i'm talking about the first line in carolina like can stank oven hall and Blake like keep that pace up yeah wait come over to the dark side you want to come you're going to the dark side i just want to fucking good sears i think he's got to muddy the water they got to muddy the water but you kind of can't push carolina around i don't want to try that i don't try muddying it army where would you rank this the scumminess in the first series um against pittsburgh like if you had a pie graph what percent first three games super scummy well give me a percentage based on the overall series who was scumier and by what percent oh i think philly was scumier i mean there was a few like the gino shooting the puck thing but that wasn't like that wasn't some of the other stuff like you know that he's cross check on syd at the end of the cross check he kicked rust rust went crazy then then he tried to fight him in front of the whole crowd and they showed him a jumbotron a million times him yelling eight like six and six in the box that was crazy it was a 15 minute delay and it was on and on just other other incidences of stuff like that that they were that they were doing that they were good at it and it worked for them early penguins found their game they got a little rust pulling martin's hair we had a little action on the other sides but i think that was kind of philly's calling card i think they're they're they're pretty good at it like they're engaged up and down their lineup they're good at it and i i think it would be wise for them i know ottawa tried that i think they should stick to that it's hard to get through the neutral zone on them it's hard to get into the middle on them ours rock solid but then you've got to be scumbags and kind of slow it down and and grind it up and philly can do that where do you guys think the scumminus pie chart needs to be fulfilling in order to win this series by the end of it yance i think it's gotta be 60 60 40 i think a little honestly i think like tk a guy like connect me needs to do a little less scumminus and and and play his game because he's so good he can take over a game he can score you big goals but he he realized like to get through this first round he had to scum it up so i respect the way he played but i think if he focused more on what he is really good at scoring goals you know creating uh offensive opportunities then they'll be much better off so i think it's 60 40 i don't need a 70 30 a 60 60 40 arm dog thank you i think we're gonna i think we're gonna need half the way hawking another luigi in somebody's face in order for exactly to pull this off let him do it that's what i'm saying like let let guys like him handle that comma causey luigi in the face mission first game can i give a shout out before i go boys yeah just took to our penguins team we're done for the year great group of people that i worked with uh awesome awesome times uh and to the flyers joe saville he hooked me up to do game notes while i was on the road at the rink at morning skates in philly it's kind of like everyone kind of pulls on the rope together so he hooked me up um give him a shout out he's kind of their media communications lead guy there uh good dude uh and chef greg wanted me to say hi yeah and so i saw him in the parking lot yesterday honked at me i came over he's like yeah how you doing you know he's the beauty you know that was philly's all-mute guy yeah yeah he's the best top to bottom that organization one of the best like they're just a classy organization all started with ed schneider but i'm rooting for the man i hope they can pull this one off it'd be massive upset what'd you say it was with minus two seven minus two seventy five kings are favored i know r.a. is gonna be all over philly when he sees those lines either team advancing in this series yeah um army thank you buddy great job on game notes getting gretsky and crushing it hopefully we see a little bit more on tv i'm not sure but love you yeah are you in studio at all uh i don't know i'm waiting here so i'm kind of cock blocked you from coming in right well i was i was dedicated to doing the first round i was dedicated to doing the first round so they held me to that i snuck away for one game we had two days off in between games so thank you for that so yeah now i'm available for come one come all you know hey boys oh yeah not in ford although right now so i gotta get some sun all right buddy oh yeah i do too um all right thanks all right so before we get to i said montreal and tampa's been the best series but utah vegas has been out of control r.a.'s a night owl so i want to have him a part of the discussion in this series but right before we go to him we got an awesome new sponsor guys and for anyone who's ever enjoyed a non-alcoholic beer oh i 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it all right hello everybody what's going on welcome to our raised world here on these spitting chicklets podcast what is up all what a front first round we had so far 75 of the series are going to at least six games i gotta think we're gonna at least two fucking game sevens out of that the fifth time in nhl history we're all eight series in a playoff round to feature at least one ot game and when a best of seven playoff round was tied to two the game five victor goes onto in the series nearly 80 percent of the time that is probably good news if you're a vagus fan we should jump in a vagus utah boys we haven't gotten to that yet with that one yet uh brethoud and shorthy you're right with i was up late i was fighting a little bit fighting a little bit but i stayed up uh brethoud and shorthy wins it the second player to win a multiple overtime game with the shorthy since his teammate tomas herdle back in uh 2019 versus ironically vagus uh paville dorrefea became the fourth player in nhl history with three tying goals in a playoff game and so far in nhl history there have been 29 instances of a team trailing and the third period did each of the first five games of a playoff series of those 29 teams 28 were behind in the series that had already lost the series after five games the lone exception this year's vagus golden knights some wild stuff that series people are sleeping on it it's been great the gold numbers aren't particularly pretty but i think it's just been terrific shooting by it by each team so i've been enjoying the hell of that one biz what do you got for us buddy yeah no i agree probably the most under appreciated underrated series so far especially with like the crazy twists and turns uh to me right now the story is boys special teams i can't believe how dog shit utah's power play has been i think right now as it stands seven what do you mean seven percent that's what they're at buddy they're at seven percent they've also gave up two shorties yeah so they're they're minus one on the power play i believe right now the special teams goals are five for the vagus golden knights compared to one for utah and boys they had a power play in overtime last night and they fucking lost the game with a fucking shorthand of gold by losing a draw in the offensive zone or the defense utah's defensive zone and they never got out alive it's uh and biz they had just weager had just turned it over for a breakaway for eichel too it was like oh you get out of that and you're like thank god for vermelka here and and then off the draw dude the way marner passed it over i think was a theater i don't remember it's like what is it look like they were on the power play and and i'll say man poturka he's skating around on that winning goal just doing nothing it was if you go back and watch that goal by howlin like watch where poturkas it's kind of similar to mantha like dude pressure or at least get in the slot instead of standing to the outside doing nothing and there's no team trailing in a series that that should be more frustrated than utah right now oh yeah they've had this this series it should be over it should be over even though they came back from 3-0 the last game wit and yans i find this sometimes when teams are on the power play is like when they lose it and the other team has it in in their end sometimes like you see one guy going to it and you're kind of just like oh he'll figure it out or he'll get it done and that even sometimes when they have two it's like they just expect that the puck's going to come to them where they get a little bit lazadaisical i think brought it up on the broadcast and i agree i was never a power play guys did you feel that way like did you sometimes fall victim to it i think more so the forwards wit no i love blaming forwards i remember thinking that in the offensive zone good power plays you lose the puck it is at least two guys if not three and you're working your dick off to get the puck back and in the defensive zone sometimes it's the exact opposite where you're just like oh like i'm not going to have the chance to get it and make a quick move at the net and create offense like we'll figure it out yeah biz i do agree with that that at least in your own zone there's times it's just like oh no worries usually there's only one guy down there vegas is realizing like utah can't do anything on the power play let's pressure them as much as we can up by specifically and they get they get the winner out of that but i mean i was actually amazed throughout this game that the amount of like two on ones they were giving up too and i'm talking i'm talking odd man russians on both side but you saw the gent the gunther biz the gunth are you calling him gunth vetchkin well again thought of the gunth vetchkin because he was chirping me about calling him over while it was the release last night on that one goal was a joke bar down and then carcone gets the other one and it was just i was like what is vegas doing but they come back again i think theodore's been phenomenal in this series and what's interesting about vegas at least last night was ikel was a little sleepy he was i don't know like there was moments in that game where he didn't really look like himself he picks it up big time and dorothy of forgetting i think it was one shift in the third period of the game before or something like that he barely played and he responds with a hat trick dude and and i he could have had the overtime winner in the first ot i think tort said after like credit to him i've been i've been on him a little bit about up in his game and and then he did it and i just can't believe the way utah like to come back in game four how they did and then still lose that game i mean that game i saw biz i think i think biz tweeted it was over and then next thing you know it's four through utah he's got the tusk on he's got the tusk thong on and they still lost so it was like you had to call correct without seeing a a three goal lead collapse but i don't think it's over i think this one's going seven based on the way these games have been and i can't i i i said before the game started i thought that vegas was going to win the series in six really yeah okay i have utah winning the series but i just think that the experience is taken over the clutchness um if you if you if you're watching the games not only with like the the way that the turn of events and stuff but you're just like man you taught so much faster they're more skilled like i feel like they're getting more scoring chances and on top of that like carter heart's not playing that well like like his his save percentage is below 880 yes maybe he's made a couple clutch shaves but like ultimately you're not getting the goal tenning that you may be expected like if they have a if they have a 900 save percentage right now like they're on to the next round already like that's you know he i think that he's he's probably led up what like four goals in most of the game so for for utah it's just these these brain farts and you saw one at the end of the second period last game uh tourney calls the time out and then they figure it out and i agree with you like vegas man they love they love fucking playing with death eh like they just the two two on ones they gave up like the one they got the lead hannah finn gets caught in the middle gunther does a great job of tying up a stick and next thing you know he's on a two on one that yamamoto has impressed me yeah the series he's been a dog on a bone he's been four checking and getting pucks turned over and making great plays and setting guys up but going back did you guys i mean i'm sure you saw the the tying goal six on five they overpressure a little bit they never really get like the 200 foot clear because they had to punt the neutral zone and it's just a great right up like oh gets the blue line stops up goes cross side to the weak side to alleviate a little bit of pressure but to me man like marner made a great play of the game prior where he turned it over in the forecheck to set up a goal and then on this tying goal i don't know if he ends up i don't think he gets an assist on it but when theodore moves it to him on the wall the job by that middle winger is to get middle ice and then force him flush him down the wall and marner knowing that when he gets on the wall as soon as that guy turns around to put his stick in the lane marner one touches it back to theodore he doesn't even give him an opportunity to get that stick in the lane and even somewhat close on him so all of a sudden that guy trying to force marner down the wall is out of the play gets it to the middle that's when they work it over to ikel and Hank touched on this as well and and obviously i would have picked it up p.o.p like jack ikel jack ikel's not shooting that puck to score he knows that he has a guy at the net and he knows that he has dora fiev going north right down fucking broadway if there is a big juicy rebound off of him going far side pat and what happens the middle guy in front of the net gets tied up and scoria fiev uh pounces on the rebound so what a what a like what a fascinating like player like what is what is scoria fiev gonna get this summer now that he's a free agent he started the year we started our broadcast with tnt in vegas bluntman calls a hat trick pregame he said that he's gonna get a hat or maybe he said there's gonna be a hat trick tonight but his guy gets one in the open night and then boom last night he gets one on our broadcast again just an absolute one of those guys where if he gets one it's like okay he's getting four he's well our guy bluntman i watched the game uh the beginning of the game with him monday night and he's like this guy can't play in the playoffs this guy cannot play playoff hockey and and and buddy's then telling me i just i was just firing him up i was just getting him going like like like he was talking to him but it doesn't really matter because what he needed to happen actually happened and he got going i even go back to this series has been crazy it's it sucks it's it's so late because a lot of people out east like you know the last two go to overtime they're starting late and you're missing just if you're not watching it's incredible hockey i mean utah won the one game getting outshot 35 to 12 so it's it's just been weird like they've blown leads they've won a game they shouldn't have won yeah but you're right i will say the heart has made key saves like he's ready key ones but he's yeah but he's also like on that slide on the one timer from curcone like he's fucking like he's flopping like a fish there's yeah but it's a two on one like you got to expect you're gonna have an because i disagree with you like the maybe the marino goal last night i would want back but the other ones they're two on ones they're you know they're nhl players you got to expect them to score on a two on one if they're gonna make a good pass over and then you think he should have had the cross one last night i think that do look at it that one got the number oh it did but his own d-man skates right in front of him one mile an hour and takes away his eyes so i don't i think maybe the first one the marino goal you can put on him and then i don't know i think he's been pretty good but then the other night in in utah like the cruiser goal there when they went up four nothing like that game he wasn't good that game's on him so i would say that i i think that the fact that they're up three two and it's gone this way and net for them is a major major positive for them because i think that he's gonna go uh he's gonna go to utah i think he's gonna have a great game six and like i said i i think that they're gonna close out i picked utah to win the series boys but they've squandered their opportunity and i don't think there's a chance that vegas doesn't doesn't clinch this thing i i utah you think it's over i i think it's over man i think i i i i i said that after they lost game four i know based on them just getting leads every game the last two at least i think i think they're winning this game at home they like they just have to close out a game dude they just have to figure out how to end it and you can't do it three times in a row they are so much faster than vegas like there's times vegas looks i mean mark stone out there that guy is so good at hockey talk about hockey iq i mean him on that back check uh what who had that breakaway it was the fun it's schmaltz schmaltz he's trying and yeah and uh on that one heart heart made a big save yeah right and see stone he's like oh fuck you like you just see his face as he realized i'm not catching him but he's still stone had a breakaway himself last night i believe because he's so good with his stick and so smart but vegas is kind of slow i think yeah they don't come off as like a super quick team and i know last year when edmonton beat him that's what it was it was just edmonton outskated him and utah's done it they just can't finish these games off um i think it's going back to i think it's going back to vegas i i i think so but all right we've kind of hijacked you here i'm sorry go ahead that's all right that's why i just did a little sniff behind the scenes there sorry buddy stop that that's all right hey biz we gotta update the the motto from pray and sway and motherfucking pasta souffle after the other night just an unreal goal probably just get the shit out of my neighbors whatever 10 30 at night yelling and screaming after that big goal uh i gotta think that the bond in the team is going to be off the wall tomorrow night uh huge game six like i said the the the crowd was as bad as the team last game uh like there is a word for you so some nambulant which means like basically sleepwalking uh sunday afternoon probably not the best time for a boston crowd unless they get up with a little hair the dog for the night before but after the other night i can't i can't see the bond in the team not responding uh swam in has been on rail once again we've been saying that every game but how about pasta he became the first player in brun's history to score multiple overtime goals to stave off elimination his other one of course game seven so i trigger one of biz uh 2024 and there's just the seventh overall in in history that's kind of wild i mean it's you know to stave off elimination twice in overtime you think maybe you know a guy like gritsky or mario might have done it five six times but no only the seventh guy to do it and he's done it twice so good stuff there the brun's power penalty killing has been stellar uh the power play not not ideal but as long as you're not like giving them up on the other end too bad i don't know i thought it was just the response they expected the game before but yeah i'm feeling really good about it going back to a buffalo for a game seven what what do you got five um i agree with you i i think it's going back to buffalo i got a buddy here i mentioned who went to the sabers game with the horse face on and i saw him last night he's like oh this thing's going back to buffalo this just that's just how this is going to play out for the sabers to finally win a series it would be at home i think in game seven um aria i do need like give me your thoughts as you saw me on tv with that chug over you watching nessen no i i i i prefer the uh the national broadcast when it's an option so i i had it on me i was just like what the fuck is he doing like and i get like but at that point hey who cares it's not like like i don't win jerseys i don't have a lot of them but i don't win to games specifically because i know either me or somebody else is going to spill bear all over it fucking $250 now you know michel nescan mealy or barby wood jersey but like that's a freebie you're off the team it's buffalo too it should spell it a charity smell like fucking alcohol when they handed to you and fucking you know spill it all all over you but i know it was a tough visual but you know what you like you always do you step up you you owned it it was a fuck up you you you owned up to it right away and that's you know that's so you can ask for but it but it was a ugly ugly visual i'm all the way uh the the bartender who you know at the speakeasy who you know was giving me my catalac margarita is like i'm not gonna out it she's a sweetheart i said hey i goes out if it goes seven get a catalac my catalac margarita and i swam me so we'll see what happens there i don't know if she's even still working with the same plane oh they i was saying to murry you gotta be up there for game seven buddy and have memes follow you around memes is excellent at the at the just getting all the footage dude it's been great yeah it's been a lot of that that how how much uh like you know people fall into the paboscu characters well i i've oh shout out to ohio's tate i know like people don't like to hell the basal gossip but he's done a great job with that right there's so much to be found just even little like small conversations and memes is awesome with that no surprise there show it to memes all right if this goes to seven are you packing the goldfish and going up to buffalo i think i think yeah i'm whether yeah i think i think pretty much at this point i would have to get up there um you know like i have no excuse not so the only thing i had penciled in the old man and my bro paulie walin let's say we're gonna go up to um the former sea brook race track which is now uh our you know our sponsor draft kings they have the casino there so my dad like you know he the dog tracks like closed so my dad started going back when they opened the casino up because you know they got the race uh the race book and it's the kentucky derby so the boys were going up there and i was like i texted the old man last thing or the night before hey i what time you guys leave and he's like friday morning and i was like okay like and now the you know the broans won this game six at home possibly couldn't have gone to that game game seven and also one of my cast mates i'm sure he's gonna be in town too so he was like hey if you're around let's hang out so i'm like yeah you know and i'm not the biggest horse guy like i'll bet the derby for shits and giggles but like you know so i'm probably gonna hang local uh this weekend um who knows you might see me at six and seven k y so would game seven be sunday night i believe so sunday yeah i think we have it yeah yeah because there were there were two uh two days in between like with that series and what you that was a great point you're right isn't the derby isn't the derby saturday yeah yeah well yeah but like well then i will also i don't know this is probably a good time to point it i don't own a vehicle either so i don't want to take an 80 80 or a fucking over from seabrook you know if like i don't have it's not that far but i don't want to have to go up and back and like i said i a buddy reached out said he was gonna be in town this weekend so that might sway sway it this way but still bet the derby yeah leo and paulay want to say love the ponies keith how do you know oh i do all right how about this one and you probably you probably had this um the nhl's buzzing you guys big shout out you guys at t a t man shout out e s p n maybe the olympics i have to think as something yeah i gave us i gave everybody a bomb 83 up from last year games with one million games with one million plus viewers 2025 there was one right now there's 19 and now granted buffalo being in philly being in pittsburgh being in big time hockey markets that that matters but fuck yeah hockey's in a great spot and people are loving i even saw a guy mincy say oh my god the nhl playoffs are incredible i'm watching more and more every year so it's you guys are doing a great job there biz and oh i it's the whole league man the league's thriving it's great to see and it's it's nice to see that like our amazing sport is getting acknowledged where i think a lot of people just see like the blood sweat and tears and how much people care and how invested the fans are and i think that there's like the fans reciprocate the energy of the players and i think that that's just how sports is and yeah i think that other sports may be not showing that and lacking that i think that we've been in from it vetted from it from us and i hope that the players continue to to represent our game the way that they they have because it's just going to keep bringing it to the moon right and yeah it's fucking it's actually crazy i i tweeted out that that that video of brady on the four check going in to kill taylor hall and i'm like could you imagine being just like a regular person at the airport watching this sport and being like what the fuck are they doing these guys are just trying to kill each other like what are they even playing for uh just a big mug yeah even like otro sinco you know the former chat jobs he he tweeted about it until hockey i was trying to like engage him in a little conversation there but so you know i i think just there like new audience to see in this game and they realize especially if you see in person just how how awesome playoff hockey is and again i know i just said don't have a dick measuring contest with the nba but when we're talking about first rounds then we literally don't want to have one with them but i get it you're you realize like viewership wise but like we'd be in trouble versus versus we'd be in fucking mandingo over hey but even all ours together we might not one even the light head if not like holy fuck last night um the borax on the bench bleeding out of his fucking eyeball he has to change his jersey because he has to you can't go out there with blood all over your jersey and he's out there the next shift like these guys are complete and utter warriors and like if you don't enjoy that and seeing what these guys do to you know win a game win a series if you can't respect that you don't know what sports is and i think finally now hockey's getting the respect that it deserves i forgot to mention with murals too that we were sitting there and 10 minutes into the game i was like i cannot believe the pace of this game it was so fast there was zero room on the ice and i know this is about being there in person and and i get these tickets are ridiculous we're lucky enough to get tickets from the savers for that night and it's just so ridiculous to be at a playoff game in person and you you see the size of the guys the speed and the lack of room you have to make plays and even having played i was in a different league than then what's going on right now it it was incredible like seeing the size of tatech thompson flying through the neutral zone yeah he got the pocket front of the net took four strides he's crossing over the offensive blue line i'm like what like it's just wild it's so cool yeah i went and did that buffalo game live it was actually against philly and i i i paged was the one guy i was like holy shit this guy's a house out here and he can move so yeah great job and and uh and i think that like i mean the the way that they do the brackets like i know we're not crazy about it sometimes but i feel like like this year like gary maybe deserves a little credit maybe gary deserves a little credit yeah i i think that i think that was always always sort of overblown like the thing is like there's so many good teams in the league right now that yeah good teams are gonna lose early like you gotta beat four fucking nhl teams to win this daily cup and sometimes the the toughest round is your first round sometimes it's the fourth usually early so i thought that criticism was all overblown biz and you know i don't think there was any rush to go back to uh you know uh one through eight and right now like like whoever like well i mean we still have boston martial and buffalo from the old adams division whatever if any two of those three teams were to play each other in the next round that's like hockey point to an old fuck like me like an old adams division thing where you got witty a sabers fan came up to me and he's like hey think of this think of what could happen with us the old adams division right we take down in the first round the Bruins and then the next round we take down the habs and then the next round we take down the old hartford whalers and then in the cup final we take down the old quibbeck nord east fucking wow was that gift i was like oh shit he's like we're gonna run through the whole adams division for our cup and then i chuck that beer and they lost that that's still even to come up with that like i can't believe i haven't seen that somewhere else out there holy shit that is wild mind this can't be the way though that uh that the the buffalo sabers like lose out this can't be the way you know that's what merced but it would be the way it's like it's buffalo that's the scary thing it's buffalo man uh i know you guys uh mentioned the awards earlier the couple we do have a few finalists out obviously they they do these i believe right around the stanley cup final i know they've changed it the last few years but for the vesna yeah jeremy swam in uh ilia sarokin and uh bassilevsky those are the three finalists no shock there uh the ted lindsey award which is the mvp award which a lot of people give this more credence than they do the hot trophy because it's voted on by peers and not media guys who don't see everybody play as much uh kutcher off mc david and uh boy celebriani who just had a magnificent incredible insania for a 19-year-old kid and the lady beng just came out a few minutes ago g satarova uh col carfield on jay copeta and jake sanderson i think pretty much i don't even without even looking at the pims i think you know who's probably gonna get this one this year and i know we gave him his flowers last week on zay copeta uh also we want to send our condolences to the family and friends of uh john cheech garret he was a long time connexian analyst the pastor at 74 there was a great highlight uh someone she had online i'm sorry i figured who she had it but uh it was gordy house last ever goal in the n h l was during a playoff game when he was playing with hodford versus bonch rel and and cheech assisted on it he was the second assist on gordy house last last ever goal so you know man that that that's a great legacy right there thanks to the show i know he was terrible he was in utah in the middle of doing that series and i i was just crushed that's that's brutal got to meet him you know playing against the connex and i love i loved him on the call you'd go to the late night game when it was in vancouver hawking night in canada he was awesome and that was it was so sudden it's just yeah i'm glad you brought that up so that i mean yeah like obviously the sports that guy's covered it and spoke about him juice uh um obviously when he was playing with the connex he talked about how he when he would uh when he would walk on the plane he'd have a full full thing of wine all the way up to the brim r.a. and he was just one of those guys too like very quick witted and would like shit on you and you know obviously juice is that type of guy too so they developed a really good relationship and obviously sports net mirf and those guys so our heart goes out to everybody in the hockey community who knew him and and loved them apparently he was just like the best guy i got to meet him a few times very briefly never got to have like like long long interactions but even jeff jacobson got to go to to meet him for lunch i think it was like six weeks ago and he said could have been a nicer guy and and just like just like you see like a great storyteller and unbelievable person gone to cool was it too that he was 74 he was still doing games and he still had it yeah i know i didn't realize he was he was you know 74 because because of how quick witted he was right and he wasn't slowing down at all just a gut punch right there if you yeah if you if you guys haven't seen the clip uh anybody listening of kevin bx talking about him on the hockey net and Canada panel uh go check that out and i'm sure that any of those podcasts or or um um you know any of the people that knew him who do media i'm sure they're gonna have great stories about him from behind the scenes as as to what as to how they he brightened up their day so just a really a really shitty thing and thanks for covering it r.a i knew you would no of course i think he like cheats he's got to be a pretty cool guy right yeah with the stash and also yeah sad news again i was sympathy to all friends family and of course the connex family as well uh some you know news bubbling out of Toronto will keep it to a minute i'm because it's the Leafs but uh it looks like john shaker and matt sundine are gonna sort of team up and take over the the main police front office here uh matt sundine with like minimal or no like front office experience which i don't i think we've seen enough guys in the past where it might not necessarily matter modesty and louis behind the bench in Montreal uh friend uh keith jones with you know taking over philly things have been going so far so good under him so that's uh sort of be the scuttlebutt biz are you okay with this it feels like almost like they're combining the the chick let's a formula combining a jocke and a nerd you know with me and wit with like sundine and shaker yeah and like i think it's like obvious that his first uh first stint in Arizona i don't think that he had that or maybe he had the ability to have that and and neglected if not pigeon tossed it um i'm i don't i'm not going to really comment it until it's kind of science you'll be delivered and i've also just been so much more focused on like the gameplay and everything going on that like i'll i'll formulate a better opinion once i kind of get information and talk to some people once it's all said and done but um yeah i mean just also just because someone made some bad decisions and fucked up and you know maybe wasn't the best of guys uh when they were younger and handed the keys at a very young age and and you know you could be negligent at that time i don't think he should have been in the position he was in arizona to begin with so not saying i i'm not saying like you know like the him getting fired and everything that happened in arizona and and like all this just like the the fine and all the bullshit from like the the quote unquote cheating um all that was obviously deserved but you know people can live and learn right so we'll we'll see i'll talk to some more people and formulate a better opinion on it but i'd rather just focus on the awesome hockey we got going on now and who gives a fuck about the lease right now oh wow oh let's get that on record hey best time to fuck up is when you're younger then you get more time for forgiveness right yeah yeah uh hey we'll do like i know we're wrapping up here let's do one quick alright Hamilton i know that yandeli was asking for a little while back let's be nice we don't want to dump on any cities i thought this was an interesting one it's from uh michael at m prude home seven what is your favorite underrated or smaller destination you've been into bento in the u.s favorite mid to large city you've been to so obviously you know throughout new york chicago vegas miami boss like you know throw those out and you know something a little under the radar that you would say hey man that's a great place to go go there i'll go i'll go first i'll go with the highlands in north carolina uh amazing spot like unreal you can go on your busy hikes they got great hikes uh golf amazing foods amazing and it's like a quiet little quaint little area where not a ton of people around um but yeah beautiful friendly people i'd probably put that as my uh my 1a for a little quiet little quaint little town where exactly is is that north carolina i have like it's like the highlands like you fly into uh hold on let me tell you i know i yeah i'm not i'm not being a geography deck i i'm gonna stay in the carolina it's in carolston oh i heard i heard it's beautiful there it's just amazing beautiful it's it's they got king street down there restaurants bars they got great golf the weather's phenomenal obviously the summers are real hot but those shoulder seasons down there are awesome uh been over to daniel island where our boy crechey and crew live um that's somewhat near charleston it is it is awesome and like you know it's about 40 minutes i think from the kiowa area it's it's a great place down there and i i'm sure that the population has exploded a little bit in the past five six years but it's a hidden gem busy boy interesting i got to check that out i i've heard nothing but good things and they have like beautiful architecture there like all like the college of charleston's right there it's yeah the old southern look with the big tree i don't know what's for some of those trees but it's great ah for me i would i mean i obviously i would say jackson whole wyoming if you haven't been there it's a very small quaint place um it's not a big population uh i've talked about driving through bozeman i love bozeman i think it's like one of those like throwback cities where they kept the integrity of all the old buildings and it's just like a beautiful downtown area they got like a great main strip and then of course around it like you can go to big sky not too far away and you just see the beautiful beautiful mountains and stuff i'm a i'm a big west guy like i like the west for that reason bozeman these pictures of the bozeman downtown it's stunning the their main drag is awesome it's in montana yeah yeah yeah just like if you it's about four hours from jackson actually i drive up through the park and then come out that side um and like if and then obviously i think that big sky is like obviously they got the great skiing but it's it seemed like they very cookie cutter and the way that they built it up i was actually pretty shocked as to how like uh like it just like it looked like a makeshift part of the like makeshift city people might correct me here there's like a different area in big sky where you're like oh no you got to go here but i went to the resort and and check like just checked around that area and i was a little bit let down outside of how beautiful and like predominant the mountains were um outside of that sadona sadona is a fun place arizona arizona is a very very underrated state yeah flag staff sadona there's some other little pockets as well you can go up the page um where you're like right on the border of of utah um yeah i can ab can ab's a cool place because the part the national park right there um i'm trying to draw on a blank on uh on what the park called t they say furiously on google maps there did you come up with uh where we're where the highlands are we'll go to g and i was trying i was trying to remember the hotel that i stayed out there it's called the old edwards in it's incredible um but i'll look up where you fly and so i got his highlands i g g what did you got for us buddy uh i would have to say and i'm not just saying this because i'm getting married there but newport rhod island it's heard it's awesome yeah i've been going there in the summer since i was you know in in college with buddies getting a place down there going out downtown you got obrians where saturdays are for the boys was famously invented uh unreal golf great food great great downtown uh you got the landing which is that unreal bar with the live music right on the water so yeah newport rhod island is uh is the top of the list for me good good stuff i i got i mean i got a couple new england spots first comes to my poland main which is an extremely underrated city great for you there tremendous restaurants beers like anything you want to go on vacation for a scenery water's a little chilly if you want to go for a dipsky but that also in new england burlington of amont where uvm is just a sort of a quintessential college town but a quintessential new england town as well i don't get up there too often but when i do i enjoy it and then out i don't know england i love the st p flora area uh you know i even like safe from st p down to sarah sorter i'm pretty familiar with anything around there the the gulf coast i you'll like it much more than the atlantic side just for the sea the sunsets alone it's a true actual sunset you know you that you can actually see the sun almost here it says alone hits the water but uh yeah those three spots right there i would tell people if you go to any of them you'll have a great time no matter what so well boys it's been a ripper of a playoff so far i love 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