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S9E10 - Selene and Endymion

17 min
Dec 22, 2023over 2 years ago
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Summary

This episode of Greeking Out retells the myth of Selene and Endymion, exploring how the moon goddess falls in love with a mortal shepherd and ultimately sacrifices their relationship to immortality. The story illustrates themes of love, sacrifice, and the unintended consequences of divine intervention, while connecting ancient Greek mythology to modern Olympic traditions.

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  • Divine solutions often come with hidden costs and unintended consequences, as Zeus's 'gift' of immortality through eternal sleep undermines the relationship Selene sought to preserve
  • The episode demonstrates how ancient myths were used to explain natural phenomena and cultural practices, linking the 50 daughters of Selene and Endymion to the lunar calendar and Olympic Games cycles
  • Selene's agency and active pursuit of love challenges traditional gender narratives in mythology, positioning the goddess as the pursuer rather than the pursued
  • The myth explores the fundamental incompatibility between mortal and immortal existence, suggesting that eternal life without consciousness is a hollow victory
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Topics
Greek Mythology - Titans vs OlympiansSelene - Moon GoddessEndymion - Mortal ShepherdZeus and Divine InterventionImmortality and Eternal SleepAncient Greek Calendar SystemsOlympic Games OriginsLove and Sacrifice in MythologyLunar Goddesses - The MenaiMount LatmusKingdom of ElisSuccession and LeadershipDivine Jealousy and RevengeDream VisitationMythological Loopholes
People
Jillian Hughes
Writer of the Greeking Out episode on Selene and Endymion
Kenny Curtis
Writer and host of the Greeking Out podcast episode
Dr. Andrea Haluska
Subject matter expert providing mythological accuracy for the episode
Scottie Beam
Audio production and sound design for the episode
Perry Grip
Composer of the Greeking Out theme song
Quotes
"The stories featured in Greek out are original adaptations of classic Greek myths."
HostOpening
"At first you might think this is the story of a man who falls in love with the moon. But really it's the other way around. The moon falls deeply in love with a mortal man."
HostEarly episode
"I will make it so. Your love will never age or die. As long as he remains asleep."
Zeus (narrated)Mid-episode
"What good is it to live forever if you sleep through the whole thing?"
HostPost-commercial
"A loophole can refer to a small opening in fortifications through which arrows are shot. But in this context, it means finding a way to do what you want and obey the exact wording of a rule or agreement."
HostLate episode
Full Transcript
The stories featured in Greek out are original adaptations of classic Greek myths. This week's story features having 50 daughters, falling in love with a mortal, Zeus's jealousy, and eternal sleep. Gritting out the greatest stories in history, We're told in Greek mythology. Gritting out gods and heroes amazing feats. Listen then you'll see it's cracking out. This is the story of Selenie and Indimian. Now at first you might think this is the story of a man who falls in love with the moon. But really it's the other way around. The moon falls deeply in love with a mortal man. And if we've learned nothing on this podcast by now, we've learned that things like that can get complicated. Selenie was a Titan, daughter of Hyperion and Thea and sister to Helios, God of the Sun, and Eos, Goddess of the Dawn. Now you may have heard that Artemis was the Goddess of the Moon, and Apollo was the God of the Sun, but that's only because people sometimes lump them together with Helios and Selenie. If you've been a listener for a while, you might also remember that the Titans ruled everything before Zeus and the Olympians took over. Since they were all immortal, the Titans weren't destroyed or anything. The really bad ones were in prison, but many of them were just given day jobs for eternity. So they had to do things for the Earth like drive the sun and the moon across the sky. Like many goddesses in Greek mythology, Selenie had a number of different aspects and personas. She was also worshipped as Phoebe, the Huntress. Oh yeah, that makes sense. I can see why people would lump her in with Artemis. So as part of Selenie's job driving the moon across the sky, Selenie had the ability to give sleep and provide light during the darkest night. She also had a great view of everything that was happening below her in the mortal world, just like her brother did during the day. And this gave her a great vantage point to see any mortals who might be staring up at her in the dark night sky, admiring her beauty. But as we said, this story actually goes the other way around. It's actually the goddess of the moon who is captivated by the beauty of a mortal on Earth below. That mortal's name was Endymian. He was a young king of a Greek city named Elis. He was beloved by his subjects for his fair and just style of ruling, but also his natural charm and handsome face. To put it simply, he was kind of a hottie, a snack, if you will. Endymian was considered to be one of the most beautiful mortals in all of Greek mythology. His handsome, good looks, rivaled Narcissus and Helen, two of the most notoriously beautiful humans in all of these ancient Greek stories. Now in addition to being king, Endymian was a father and a husband. He had three young sons and a happy family in Elis, and everything was going wonderfully for him until one night when he had a vision in a dream. It was a message from Zeus himself, and this vision told him that he would soon sleep the endless sleep and that he should prepare his successors. A successor is a person who has a job, position, or title after someone else. Right, so basically Zeus was telling Endymian he was going to die, which is not something that happens every day. And as you would expect, Endymian was pretty upset about this, but he was thankful for the warning as unwelcome as the news was. Endymian prepared his wife, his family, and his subjects for life without him. He was a good king, and he wanted Elis to continue to thrive, so he made sure that the country could go on functioning even without him on the throne. And then, he came up with a plan to determine the next king. You see, Endymian had three sons and a daughter. They all have their own stories that involve the chariots, invaders, and the godpasside, and none of that is part of this story. What really matters here is that Endymian wanted all three of his sons to have a shot at ascending the throne when he died. So, he organized a foot race in Olympia, and proclaimed that whoever came in first would be named the heir to the throne of Elis. A foot race doesn't seem like an efficient or logical way to pick a new leader. That's true, but it's actually not the worst one we've seen on this podcast. Remember the time when Set and Horus had a hippo-shaped breath-holding contest in Egypt? They are both equally bad. Well, that is true. Can't argue with that. Anyway, after a long run, it was Epius, the oldest son who crossed the finish line first. For those of us who have older brothers, this is not necessarily a surprise. The crowd cheered, and Epius beat much to the chagrin of his brothers. Endymian was pleased to the knowledge that his kingdom would continue as a happy and thriving community, even after he was gone. There is more to this story, but we will save it for another season. We are again withholding information, but this time, for timing reasons... Yeah, we gotta get through this story first. Once the race was over and everything was settled, King and Endymian wasn't sure what to do with himself. Was he just supposed to, you know, wait around to die? After a few days, the king decided that his best course of action would be to leave the kingdom. He decided to live out his remaining days in exile, sparing his family the pain of having to watch him sit there and die. So the handsome Endymian bid his family a tearful farewell and set off for parts unknown. He wandered the countryside for weeks before he eventually wound up serving as the best-looking shepherd in all of ancient Greece, but he was still a lowly shepherd, tending to a flock that liked Greece high up the side of Mount Latmus. Guess this was definitely a step down from King, but it was exactly what Endymian was looking for, a beautiful quiet place to live out the few days he had left in his life. If everything ended today, he figured only my flock would miss me, and they have enough grass to get by. The myth of Endymian is confusing because there are so many different versions. In some, he is a king. In some, he's a shepherd. And in some, he's both. But Endymian wasn't entirely alone. He lived in a cave on the side of a mountain and basically just moved the flock in and out of the rain in cold, and he spent many lonely nights just staring up at the sky with the moon as his only companion. So, after a while, he started talking to the moon. Sometimes he would ramble on for an hour or so, talking about all the things he missed from his former life, and even the things he didn't. Other nights, he would just sit and stare at the beauty of the moon. What he didn't realize was that the moon was staring back. Okay, who's up for a commercial break? Anybody? Show okay? Yeah, me too. Alright, we're going to take a short break. We'll be back on the other side with more greaking out. Patrick, let's go! The clue is floating away in a hot air balloon! Hey, sorry, this is kind of a bad time. Claire and I just found a major clue, and now it's airborne. Anyway, I want to let you know that the parents behind law and order have something brand new for families. Our podcast. Patrick Picklebottom, Everyday Mysteries. Patrick, it's headed towards the water tower. Gotta go! Listen on Apple or wherever you get your podcast. Hey parents, why can kids hear better than grownups? Why is blood red? Why can't humans spit like llamas? All these questions are answered and more in why human body from Nat Geo Kids. Designed specifically to supercharge and satisfy curiosity while keeping your kids entertained for hours. Check out why human body, wherever you get your books. See that wasn't so bad? And just like that, we're back. And that's when we get back to Selenie. Selenie was in love with a capital L. In all of her years crossing the night sky, Selenie had never seen a mortal so handsome or heard one speak with such honesty and openness. Selenie was so obsessed that sometimes she would actually hurry her brother Helios along so she could get the sun to set sooner. She couldn't wait to get into the night sky again so she could see the loving face of indimian staring up at her. Eventually Selenie realized that she was going to have to meet this man face to face. Or on her own two feet, maybe that's a bad way to say it. So one night when the sky was particularly clear and the moon was in full light, she made the journey out of the sky. And indimian had just decided to extinguish his campfire and get some sleep after a full night of stargazing. He began to make his way back to his quiet cave to turn in for the night. But he felt rather than heard or even saw a light behind him. It was a warm glow that emitted a soft hum. Indimian slowly turned and looked over his shoulder to behold a breath-taking sight. The beautiful moon got a Selenie was standing before him, smiling. Even though he had never seen her in her mortal form, Indimian recognized Selenie as the moon right away. There was just something about her face and her eyes that made him see the moon and the heavens and the stars had captivated him instantly. They embraced each other and laughed. Indimian relicked the fire and the two talked through the night until Selenie sadly had to pull herself away. I must go! She said. I have to return to my sister who brings the dawn that I promised to return tomorrow and the next week. And the moon got us was true to her word. Even on cloudy nights when you couldn't see the stars of the sky, she would visit Indimian in his cave and the two fell madly and deeply in love. And Indimian began to question his fate. Was he not supposed to die at any time? But when those thoughts would creep into his mind, the shepherd just pushed them away. He told himself to live for today, or more accurately for tonight, when he would again see his beloved Selenie. Now for her part, Selenie began to question things as well. After many, many, many nights with Indimian, she realized that she simply could not live without him. And she had to accept the fact that someday, she was going to have to. Indimian was not immortal. The thought that he would someday grow old and die was too hard for the moon goddess to bear. She didn't want to see him age and she certainly didn't want to watch him die. So the moon goddess turned to Zeus, king of the gods for help. As a titan, she had many powers over mortals, but she did not have the power to make Indimian immortal or ageless. Perhaps with Zeus' help, she could use her powers to extend the life of her beloved Indimian. Now Zeus, well, he was actually thrilled about Selenie's request. You see, he already knew who Indimian was, and Selenie wasn't the only one who had Google-ey eyes for him. Hera, queen of the gods, and Zeus' wife, was also smitten with the handsome king Indimian. And as much as she tried to hide it from her jealous husband, he knew all about it. He could totally tell. Now he thought he had taken care of the problem by visiting Indimian in his dreams and getting him to trade his crown for a shepherd's crook, but somehow, that just made Indimian more attractive. But now, Zeus had a perfect avenue for revenge and a perfect person to blame it on. Selenie. Zeus encouraged Selenie to think carefully about what she was asking, hinting that it might not turn out exactly the way she expected, but the moon goddess was too excited about a solution to pick up on Zeus' intentions. The mere thought of losing her love was driving her to distraction. Very well. The king of the gods said magnanimously. I will make it so. Your love will never age or die. As long as he remains asleep. There are many versions of this myth, but they all wind up in the same place, with Indimian sound asleep in a cave forever. Well, that wasn't exactly what Selenie was hoping for, to say the least. I mean, she wanted to spend the rest of eternity with her love, but she was assuming he'd be awake. I mean, what good is it to live forever if you sleep through the whole thing? But Selenie truly couldn't live without Indimian, so she would have to live with him asleep. Eventually, she found a loophole in Zeus' enchantment. A loophole can refer to a small opening in fortifications through which arrows are shot. But in this context, it means finding a way to do what you want and obey the exact wording of a rule or agreement. Right. Zeus meant for no one to spend time with Indimian, but because the enchantment only made him fall asleep and not die, Selenie could still visit Indimian in his dreams. Every night, the moon goddess would visit her love in his cave asleep. She could gaze at his face, but she missed their talks and his laughter so she would enter his dreams, and there they would talk and laugh. Selenie and Indimian had 50 daughters, and these 50 daughters became known as the Menai, Lunar Goddesses, each one representing a different lunar month in the calendar. Over time, the story of Selenie and Indimian became known to people as a tribute to the great former King of Elis and his wife and daughters. It was decreed that there would be 50 months between each of the great athletic games held in Olympia, where Indimian and his sons had held the race ages before. We are speaking here about the Olympic Games, which is something we still do today. The modern games are actually coming up in 2024. Or if you're listening to this in the future, the modern games happen back in 2024. The Greek calendar was divided into four year cycles. At the end of each was a ritualized set of games. Correctimundo, but more on that next time, since we've reached the end of this episode and the end of this season. So if you have a suggestion for the podcast, if you like Greek out and want to tell us what you'd like to hear more of, grab a grown-up and have them help you write a review of the podcast. We read all the reviews and are always using suggestions for people just like you. So let us know what you think. And we will see you next season right here on Greek out. Greek out. Thank you for listening. Greek out will be back in late April with our 10th season. Until then, keep Greek out. Cause and heroes amazing feats. Listen and you'll see it's Greek out. National Geographic Kids Greek out is written by Jillian Hughes and Kenny Curtis and hosted by Kenny Curtis. With Tori Cur is the Oracle of Wi-Fi, audio production and sound designed by Scottie Beam and our theme song was composed by Perry Grip. Dr. Andrea Haluska is our subject matter expert, Emily Burkett, Laurie Bota and Juliana Skiavo. Our producers and Emily Everhart is our senior producer.