Conference Title Game Picks & Stidham Optimism w/ Chase Daniel & Ted Nguyen, Plus the UFC’s Dana White!

Hey, Rosilla listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. The Ryan Rosillo show presented by Draftings. This show is very, very busy. We have Chase Daniel breaking down the NFC, AOC, championship games, a bit more on Stidem because he knows the system he played in this system and he has some great YouTube videos on that. So we'll do that with Pitbull games. Him same thing with Ted Wynn, his film study, what he's looking at and why he's going with both the Rams and the Broncos. So I think he's going both dogs in this and Dana White in front of a big UFC event with Justin Gachy and Patty, the Batty. We're going to talk not really about that event as much as where the USC is now positioning. Of course, those big names, Connor and Jones, if they're going to get back in on this, we've got Life Advice, The Alliance, and my All-Star ballot for the NBA. So a lot in today's pod. NFL playoffs, let's go. 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Four additional terms and responsible gaming resources, cdkng.co, slash audio limited time offer. I feel like this is a culmination of over a decades worth of work on this one. Chase Daniel joins us now. You can check out his podcast, Scoop City, and also his YouTube page, or so I was watching this morning. Some awesome breakdowns for you that need to be re-familiarized, I guess I would say with Jared Stim. I saw him play, God, it's like 18 years ago. Chase, that's what you're doing this man. Yeah, thanks for having me on man. It's been a long time coming. Follow your work. You guys are crushing it man. You're one of the OGs and just appreciate everything you do for the sports media. Well thanks and this is why you were in a quarterback room forever because you just have that way about you. You compliment me right out of the gate and so appreciate it. You know what's funny is we had you booked and then now Stidham's a starter, which I was looking at the numbers the other night and I was watching it with my guy, Van Pelt, where he has four career starts. This is the least amount of stars for any quarterback to have in a competition game. However, not so fast, Jeff Haas set letter had five when they won that title with the Giants against the Bills, but you come in and it's like, all right, let's do a Stidham breakdown because Chase understands at least what's being asked of Stidham in a massive spot here. You did some YouTube stuff on them. So give us the breakdown. Yeah, look, I mean, I think I have a familiarity with the Sean Payton offense, right, because I was there for five years and pretty much like the dimverse coaching staff for these last few years when Sean went there. He pretty much did like New Orleans West like it was like everyone in New Orleans. He hasn't changed the offense. He's added some stuff. I think that Bo Nix has done, but when you look at it and you look at what Stiddy can bring to the table, I mean, we were there in training camp this year and I got to sit in quarterback meetings. It's just like, first of all, that group coached by Davis Web is like really, really tight. They do such a good job of just having each other's back. And I don't know if you saw the press conference yesterday where there was like 70 people in Jared's symptoms outside like, hey, welcome to the conference championship. The first thing he said, he was asked about himself. He's like, hold on. You know, I want to go back and I just want to say, hey, thoughts and prayers with Bo and he just made it not about himself. Like that's the type of guy he is first and foremost. Now, when you get under the field, like I went back and I watched every preseason snap and I watched two of his four starts. The one thing just putting it all together with Sean Payton and himself, like he's going to sling the rock. Like he's going to throw the football down the field. I think as a backup quarterback, when you're in a spot like this, the easy thing to do is protect the ball, run the ball. Let's not turn it over. Let's one with our defense. I don't think that's going to be the case. And no one who's Sean Payton is, they're going to be aggressive out the gate. This offense isn't going to change like at all. Like I know sometimes you're trying to change what a city do, what it's next to. I think sit on is actually a much more athletic guy than you think. So that could help with some of New England's like disguise pressures, getting out of pressure, moving on the run. And so yeah, I just went back and did the breakdown. And I'm like, man, like everyone's probably counting Denver out, including Vegas. I don't know. Line is like, but last time I checked, but I think they're going to like be in this gate. Like I think they're going to be aggressive with play calling. I think it's going to come down to the end. I think it's going to come down to special teams. And look, it might take a half year to get the understanding of the speed of the game because there's a little bit different thing when you're running scout team all year long versus when you're going against Patriots, defense and the FC championship game. So it'll be interesting to see how this whole thing plays out. When I go back to sit him and watch him in college, you know, he starts to bail or lights it up and he said, Auburn, right? And that was a big deal for Auburn to have him. And so he was, he was a name, right? And it was good enough to end up being on an NFL roster of two years there. But the thing that scared me a little about him is that it wasn't just the sack totals. And I was looking them up again this morning. I mean, 35 sacks of the season isn't a nightmare. And it got better in the second year that he was at Auburn. But it wasn't just the sacks. It felt like he was a guy that as soon as he started feeling it, he would feel it. Even if it wasn't necessarily there, that he could get a little dappy, right? And that's what I saw, especially that first year. I'm like, man, this guy, it's just tough to get him settled. That was 2000, you know, 17, 18 were talked. So I don't even know how relevant any of that stuff is. But the lack of game reps, it was the first thing I thought of of like, I don't know if it's even a good point or not, but it was definitely true when he was playing. No, it's a great point. I mean, because it is. And look, I obviously, I've been in, I was in a league for 14 years and I think I had five stars. So it's very similar. Now he's not as long as me. But like when you look at like the makeup of a backup quarterback and you go in on, really, this isn't a short week, but like, I just liken it to my experience in 2018 where Mr. Biscay gets hurt, I think in the Minnesota Vikings game. And then it's a Sunday night game Thanksgiving game is on Thursday. We had like 70 hours to prep and Mitch hurt his shoulder. Hey, Chase, you're starting. I'm like, oh my gosh. Like, wow, okay, like I hadn't played in quite some time. And the tendency and I had this a little bit in my head was like, hey, don't try to do too much, right? Don't try to do this. And then eventually as the week went on, it was like, man, this is just football. Like, you almost want to keep it so simple where you allow the athletic ability and you allow just the game maker skills, the playmaking skills of sit-em to come out. But when you do get into a game and I struggle with this really for the first quarter or first half and you haven't felt those game speed reps, you're feet. And that's what I'm going to be looking at with Stiti a lot is like, your feet are just so much faster than the drop and you're not seeing things open because your feet don't match up with the drop, right? And another thing people don't understand is like, look, Denver doesn't have a lot of these like they have, they have, um, Portland set. Like, Mark Mendes is your number two. They've Troy Franklin's out. They got some other guys that are out. Here's the thing about that that a lot of people on understanding is like, when you're a backup quarterback for the whole year, right? So Stiti has been running scouting. I mean, he's been, he hasn't even been running his same offense. You know, they played last week against the bills. He was Josh Allen for the bills. So he was running Josh Allen's plays in practice, the Buffalo Bill's place against the Denver Broncos defense. And it's really not full speed and it's really not that. So now he's got to turn around this week and it's today's Thursday. So it's, it's really your first full week, first full day of practice. Like if you, here's another thing too. Like I'm just, I know we're, we're going a little bit deep here though that, you know, can be a little bit worrisome is if I am starting in this game and I'm steady, I want as many full speed reps as I can get. Well, if you're on week six to the NFL season, Wednesday's a full padded practice, you're rolling. You probably get 45, 50 reps. Well, guess what Wednesday is starting in for Sean Payton, like week 17 or week 18. Those aren't full padded practices. Those are walk through practices. So you're losing out on 40 to 50 reps. You may have had early in the year and they do that because Rast, it's a really long season. They're playing their 21st game. So he's going to lose those. So this Thursday in practice is his only full speed day and a lot of it's third down day, right? So these base downs, these early downs, these first and second downs, he's not getting those reps. He'll be fine, but it will take a little bit of time to settle in. I was watching in your breakdown just some of the progression stuff and what I like, know, for those of us that didn't play this position because I'm always really interested in just the designs of what the routes are, right? And how hard an offensive system can make it on a quarterback or how easy they can make it on a quarterback. And I'm sure you can probably get to the point where your eyes, you know, the Brady level, the mastery level, probably staffers up there. I'm sure there's some other names. Maybe I'm not even necessarily thinking of is that there's certain systems where the guys can get through progression so fast that you don't need to make these like kind of layup combinations of routes where the where the eyes are a little bit easier. And it felt like in some of the stuff that you're showing with stint them is that what Peyton's calling is like, okay, if it's opposed on the outside, then my eyes are to the right already. And I'm reading the safety. But if that means that I have a crosser that's going to end up there once I've made a decision whether or not to rip it or wait, like I'm still generally looking in the same area as opposed to having to shift everything over, reset my body, figure out how my foundation like all of these different things because I do think there's probably still some guys that are so like they're so convinced they're such offensive geniuses and maybe the matchups are great and the numbers work out. And it's like, yeah, but you're asking, you're asking this quarterback to have a mastery of looking through all of the different stuff. So it feels like Peyton, even with even with Breeze, like he's he's going to make it at least easier, quicker for you to make those decisions because he's not going to ask you to be going through four things and scanning the entire field when you haven't even played if you're still. Are you sure you weren't an offensive coordinator back in your old days? I mean, you sound like I'm getting a little bit better at it this year. This is super impressive. Yeah, so you hit it right on and this is such a deeper conversation, but in short way, you know, I know you've been following the narrative of football as it's continued to progress, right? And the whole narrative this year, at least in the middle of the year, toward the end of the part of the year was and I think Kurt Hussins had a really good sound bite on it. And his first game back after Michael Penis got hurt and he started to play. He was talking about pure progression passing versus coverage space passing and how everything right now is moving toward that progression based passing exactly like you said. So progression based passing is exactly what you said. It's hey, I'm going to sweep the field. I'm going to start my eyes right. If one is open, I'm going to throw it to one. If one's not open, okay, it's too open. All right, if three's not open, three, it's a little bit more granular than that, but for the most part, it helps these college kids specifically nowadays that play one year or have 20 starts just come in and be able to play quick. Gone are the days are the jubories, the Peyton Manning's, the Tom Brady's where it's coverage based passing. So coverage based, I love this. I'm a nerd. So I hope you like it too. Poverge based passing is where you have a route concept on one side, you have another route concept on another and you have a hot route for your back. So there's three really things. This side's for cover four. This side's for cover three. If you get man, check to something. If not, here's your hot. And that allows guys to be in a little bit more in depth, but sometimes not play as clear if that makes sense. When you have progression based passing, like Sean Peyton has, you're able to just be like, you know what? Forget the coverage because the like the pay I'm telling you right now, I've played 14 years. I was with breeze. I was with Sean Peyton. I was with Andy Reed. I've learned from some of the best. I don't even know what the new and the Patriots are doing on defense half the time. And I have the clicker. Right? Like, like, I'm like, is that cover four? Is that four presses? That two? Is that cover three? Is that a carry? Is that man? How do they play out? So think about what Stephen has to deal with that on the field. So to combat that, offenses, specifically Sean Peyton's offenses and some others are going pure progression passing. And I will say this about Sean Peyton is that a lot of what bow was running. Nicks. There's a lot of like, I'd say like 20% is literally just half-field progressions. They're going block it up, play action. Let me just have three reads to one side, a high, a medium, and a low and be able to throw it to them. And I think that's probably what you're going to get. You're going to get them block them up. Some of these shots early. Sean loves quick game on early downs to stay ahead of the sticks. This game to me, and I was able to call on ESPNF, the Yolk cast for New England versus Houston last week. So I'm very familiar with both teams. It's been a lot of time studying it. New England defensively on third down. They're pretty good. And I think this game is going to come down to third down, specifically from Denver's offense versus New England's defense. I want to give you some thoughts on the Pats roster here, because I was looking it up. You know, it's a team I grew up rooting for. Eventually, I no longer cared all that much. But towards the end of Bella check, well, my biggest divider was I couldn't believe that Bella check decided to do the predictable Bella check thing and be like, I'm going to move on from Brady to prove some kind of point. So at the end of the Bella check run, it was, I think the worst roster in the NFL, I think when they did that NFL top 100, they didn't have a player. Maybe Qon was on it. I'm not sure. It doesn't matter. It's like, all right, fine. Maybe there was one other roster that was just as bad. So you were the 31st worst roster if you want to get into some of that stuff. So if you go back to the 23 roster, I think five guys are out of the league. Only four guys actually are starters. If you're looking at starters, only four of the starters from that team or even on this team now, a 51% roster turnover in its entirety from even the start of 24 to where it is now. So like, I look at what Drake may has done. And I think part of my battle was, okay, May is this might be that special. And I'm fine. I'm all in on it, right? Because I'm always a little hesitant about quarterbacks because I just think it's so hard. It seems like he checks every single box and they may have the guy for 15 years. There was a little schedule stuff. And I just was, I kind of guys go point is like, is this roster, they've done a great job with this, but is this roster actually this good when you think about the talent on this roster in comparison to hell, even the rest of Denver outside of nicks, when I think of Seattle and I think of the Rams, I think from a talent standpoint, I don't think it's a stretch of say it's the fourth best roster, even though I like everybody else. I'm going to pick him in Denver this weekend. It's not a stretch at all. I mean, it's definitely the fourth best roster without a doubt. And that's not even like, that's not even a bad thing to be completely honest with you. It just tells you how much coaching matters. And it tells you how much joshman gain knows his matter specifically offensively because to be completely honest with you, right? And like, when I look at the paths team and I'm like, all right, yeah, the schedule issues, this that another, I understand that. But when I look, excuse me, when I look at the team from an offensive standpoint, I'm like, who do you have to throw to? Like I'm like, and that's just that is not offensive in my mind. I'm like, all right, you got me. Look, I can see you're doing it because I've been doing the same thing. And then you look at this past week and it's like, who is going to be this good? You know, so like, I'm with you and we're almost like apologetic about this because it still kind of shocks me. So keep going. And well, I mean, it is. It does shock me because that just tells me like how good the freaking quarter back is. Like, like, to me, even even like Will Campbell and the left guard, like both those, those are rookie guys. Like they have struggled this year. They have not been good at all this year. And then you have pop Douglas having a touchdown against his Houston Texas team. You're like, who is pop? Like, well, I don't even know who he was until I did the game last week. And then you have booty making like one of the craziest catches in postseason history. I think like just the thought of like the one hand. And that just is like, who like obviously I think Matthew Shapper is going to win the MVP. But if Matthew Shapper didn't have your, it's without a doubt, drink maybe because of what he did this year with his roster. And the thing is they're only going to get better with that. But I do just like, there's this thing called like play, play call sequencing. So and I'm sure you're aware of it. It's like, how do you sequence play calls together? All right. First in 10. We're here. I second and four already do it. Okay. I think I'm going to play action. Cause third and four we got the Josh McDaniels has done a phenomenal job of not only setting up plays, but calling these plays in a sequence that just makes so much more sense than than any other offensive coordinator in the league because of how much he's had to deal with. He's really been on full display. He's the assistant coach of the year. In my opinion, it's not even close. He's been able to get Drake May this far. And look, he's done it against some really good defenses. I thought, I thought Drake may played a lot better than a lot of probably people thought. If you just look at the stat line, you're like, oh, like less than 200 yards passing last game of this Houston Texans defense. I mean, it was, I hate to use the term generational, but it was one of those like top 10 in the last like 20 years type of defense is that he went against. He's played pretty well. I thought it was that kind of defense. Like I picked him to get to the Super Bowl because I thought they were like, it was so much fun to watch them. Yeah. That Pittsburgh game was the pit of me of the whole thing. And then, you know, when they started getting gashed at the end, I was like, they just know they can't do it anymore. Like that was their soul being ripped from them just because of what the offense was doing. So does it. Are you picking New England? Or are you picking? Are you going to be the rare Denver pick here? So, um, I've, we did our Scoop City podcast yesterday. It's out now. And I picked and, um, I picked Denver to be honest with you. And it's nothing that has anything to do with New England. I just think there's something and just knowing Sean Payton, he wants to prove that he can do this with a backup correct more than you know. Like he cares about that kind of stuff. He's petty, right? And all the right ways. And I just think he's going to, they're going to really lock in. I actually think this game comes down to defense and special teams. I really think that this Denver defense is legit, especially rushing the passer. Um, and yeah, I don't, I think this is like a, I think it's like a 17-13 game. I just don't think there's a lot of points. Like if Denver scores three touchdowns in my opinion, they went. I just don't know if they can. Um, maybe a special team touchdown or something like that. But I, I'm going to go, I'm going to go with Denver. I think most people won't be knowing. Yeah, I think straight up. I mean, in this one, it just feels like, um, it just feels like a tough one for the consensus to come to that side. Maybe with all the points. Different. How pumped would, how pumped are you though? If they do win and they're back, let the patriots are back. Like in the I be so pumped, you know, for the fans that it very spursish. Like some lean years and then right back at it. Like that's not supposed to happen. Yeah. And the roster's not even that good. Yeah, I think whenever I say that, like people generally, like you've been down on the paths the whole year and I was like, yeah, from like, can you win the Super Bowl conversation? Yes. Observed record, love may, but you know, this is a bit like Indiana with Signeti where I go, if you look at the talent on the roster, this isn't even, this hasn't even started yet. You know, they haven't even started stockpiling top 20 classes coming in here. And if they do that and Signeti was able to do this with this group, uh, that's, it's kind of how I feel about New England. Look, it's not an apples to apples thing here, but Vray Bull and this group, they haven't even really got this thing rolling yet from putting together the roster because when I think all the dudes on Seattle, all the dudes on the Rams that I love, all the guys on the Broncos defense and all these personal guys, I'm like, I'm just not naming that many guys on the Pat's defense. So it's wild. If you win the Super Bowl, which like, all right, it's two more wins. I'm just saying, if you win the Super Bowl, you're going to go back and you're going to look at this post season run about how well or how good of defenses you guys face because it's a gen, these defenses that you're going to get through, think about the Chargers, Chargers defense top three, top four and like they are good, they are really, really good. They rush the pass or well, they beat up Drake May Houston, Texans, you just talked, talked about it. I think they're generating different Broncos in my opinion, their best defense and the leak. And then if Seattle, which I think wins, Seattle is on another level. So if you get through those four with the type of talent you have offensively around, I just think it's going to be one of the greater accomplishments in a long time. Let's talk about that Seattle defense because, you know, momentum-wise, I don't know where you were with the Rams, but you know, maybe midway through the season, maybe eight weeks to go. It's like, hey, look, I think the Rams are the best team. This is their year. Doesn't mean they're going to win the Super Bowl, single elimination kind of stuff. And then that Seattle game happens where they blow that lead. And in that moment, I was like, don't forget this when they face each other again. Do not pick Seattle when they face each other again. And now, you're like, okay, the Rams offense seems to be struggling a bit. So maybe you can start there because maybe it's, maybe it's an overreaction to be like looking at what Seattle did against this, just underman, San Francisco team that found a way to even make it this far, but you're at home, return the kickoff at seven, nothing that fan base is just going wild. Momentum-wise, it just feels tough to pick against the Seahawks. I mean, I'm with you. I'm picking the Seahawks. And I, and look, I grew up with Matthew Stafford. He's in my backyard, Highland Park, one to South Lake Texas, like we were with each other in 2020 on the Detroit Lions, just forgettable year. But I do think Seattle just, and I put out a tweet and I probably shouldn't have, but I put out a tweet after Seattle just dismantled the 49ers. I'm like, I really just don't see them losing again. Like, forget about who the quarterback is. They can overcome if Sam Donald doesn't play great. The defense and the way they swarm and the special teams and just the way Mike McDonald has that team playing right now to me. It's so fun to watch. Like, I do think like, for all the crap that Sam Donald has gotten from the Minnesota, like those two last games, I thought, for the most part, like, he didn't have to do much last game. But the first game in the playoffs, I thought he played like really well. Like, I thought they managed it well. I thought he managed the Rams game in week 18. Well, that's the one I'm talking about because, you know, he made some throws when you're like, oh, what's that really highlight? But then you go and actually study it. I'm like, man, the Rams game. Sorry. Yeah, sorry. The Niners game. Sorry. The Niners game. For the one seed. Yeah, I'm like, dude, see, I got college football. I don't blame you because that that Ram C-Hawks Niners thing was just it. Yeah. So then nine years, week 18 game for the one seed. I thought, Donald played actually really well, exceptional. To be honest with you. And the stats are going well, you know, he didn't throw away the gate. Like he stepped up to it. And then, but now you got the oblique and like, can the Rams hit them? Can they can they get to him? Here's the one thing that I'm a little bit skeptical about. If the Rams offense plays well enough to score points, can Seattle's offense keep up with a battered Sam Darnold? Here's the one thing about Sam Darnold. And I've studied him for quite some time. He's really, really good in the clean pocket. Like he's he's he's exceptional. He can, well, like pure progression, but I don't know. As soon as you hit him, and if you hit him early, it's a different quarterback. It's a different quarterback. And that happens. You could say that for a lot of guys. But if the Rams are able to hit him early and just speed up his clock, I'm not talking about Sam Darnold seeing Ghost because he's way past that. But I'm saying, can you speed up his clock enough to, ah, for some to speed up his drop and speed up the decision making process. And the Rams, Shula does a lot of different things. You know, what coverage are they? And how are they this? I think they got to get to him early if they want to chance in this game. Is there something you think Chris Shula is doing as a DC to get Darnold just out of rhythm? I mean, other than just, hey, get after him. But I mean, this is six interceptions in this match up in the two games against the Rams D. Yeah. And Shula just does a great job of what I was, he disguises a lot. It's not like, hey, lineup cover two. Oh, I know where to go. It's not just lineup cover three. It's like, press man and Shula did a great job in these first two matchups of getting pressure on him early and causing him people don't understand like the NFL teams like when you talk about pressure number, they don't look at sacks. Like sacks are great in their negative plays and they're huge for wins. They look at pressure percentage. So how fast are you getting to the quarterback? And I don't even care if it's sacked, but are you touching him? Are you hitting him? Are you battering him? How tight of a pocket is it? All this stuff matters when you play. And even though the sack numbers might not be crazy, if you get close to them and throwing in a tight pocket, like that's something that he's just not great at. I want to talk about you a little bit more here because I remember, you know, when you got started and you're like, all right, is this, is he going to have a career, you know, and you start five games over 14 years. Did you feel like, hey, I could, I'm going to see this is a stupid question to ask any pro athletes. You're not going to say, well, no, because you're not going to say, I actually knew I couldn't be a starter than entire time. But was there ever an epiphany of, hey, this isn't a bad life. And I'll do this. And I may never, ever get a chance of even getting a season of being the guy. Absolutely. And that was the, like, the start to the end of my career. Like, when you think like that, as when was that? Like, give me how many years you were like, I'll, I need a shot. I'll, I need a shot. And then it was like, yeah, this isn't happening. So, oh, nine was my rookie year. I went to Washington team and six months with Jim Zorn. And then I remember getting a call from Sean Payton as I'm in the office of Jim Zorn trying to sign back for practice squad. And I'm sure I'm sure you heard this story. Maybe you have it. But I'm literally like the next in line to sign a practice spot because they kept three. And I look at my phone. And it's a five or four number New Orleans. I don't, I don't, I like index. I'm like, I'm next in line. Like, I'm like, nervous, right? I'm like, end it another call, end it. Third time, like, maybe I should pick it up. And he, and I'm like, hello. And he's like, Jay, so I'm like, yeah, it's like Sean Payton walk out of the office. First of all, are you sure Sean Payton? Second of all, how do you know I'm in the office? He's like, I'm like, are you sure? I'm like, no, I'm just, he's like, Chase walking out of the office. All right. So walk out of the office talking to him. Long story short, he's like, hey, you're gonna come down here. We want to sign you to our practice squad for two weeks. But we promise you you're going to get on the active rosters and number three behind Mark Brunel, Yada Yada Yada. And I'm like, are you sure? Like, I, again, I hadn't even talked to my agent at this point. So call me agent, like, yeah, it's real. All right. So get on the plane. And I think that was the defining moment in my career because I was able to learn under Brunel and breeze for one year and then was be able to be drew back up for the next three years. And I just remember Sean, almost every month, be like, don't let Drew win this job. I'm like, what are you talking? Like, don't you need to push him? Like, you, you, you were a start in the sleeve. And I just think that like constant. And he did it. So I think that constant just like talking your head, it was like, okay, like, yeah, I can do it. And I think after like, I think after the 2011, my second year backing up pre-season is my third year in the league where I just lit up the pre-season, even though it was against backups. I hate that. Like, you still got to go out there and do it. That's when my mind was like, oh, I, I think that I have what it takes to start in the league. And it took that long. And I signed with Andy Reed, first big contract in after the 2012 season. And I'm there 13, 14 and 15. And then him saying to me, dude, you're a start in the sleeve. Like, it not just like blowing, like, not just blowing smoke. Like, Andy's like a father figure to me. And he's just so great. So I'm like, okay, so I'm like, sweet. All right, I'm going to leave. And that's when I signed the huge deal in Philly with, with, uh, Sam Bradford. And, you know, whole thing where they trade him away and Carson wins, jumps and stuff like that. And I'm Philly for a year. And even the bear stuff, like, I thought I was going to get a shot in 28. I mean, this just keeps going on forever. But it just like 2018, 2019 with your biscuit, I felt like I played actually the starts there were pretty, pretty good. And then probably the Detroit year, I would say, I never said this publicly. Well, probably the Detroit year, like during that year, I played and I'm like, I sort of crappy. I'm like, I could see, you know, one or two more years, ah, I just don't have that same bigger of like coming in and doing the work and doing this. And it was always grateful. And then the last two years in with the chargers, I think, was like, all right, the last year I knew I was like, I'm probably pretty done. Like I had offers after my last year in chargers, um, for a couple backup dogs, decent paying, but, you know, when you have kids and like I saw the last two years I played with the chargers. So we live in San Diego. That's like home base for us. We were driving, I was driving up to Orange County every day in back to work. I saw my kids like 10 hours a week, the last two years of my career. I'm like, this sucks. Like I'm like, I love what I'm doing without a doubt, but like I want to be like around the kids. Anyway, I had other offers and we were like, you know what, let's get into media because I did, I did, uh, NFL Network, my last year playing on the Monday night show, uh, because I sort of knew that what it was going to get the case, but long story short, I think probably like the Detroit year. And I always used to tell myself, like I want to do this as long as I can to the wills fall off and something just sort of changes emotionally and you're just like, ah, you know, something, all right, it's time to move on. Well, I appreciate you sharing that with us because it's something I always wanted to ask you. I want to ask you about it. Like I wanted to interview you and I think we hit up like teen PR like, why do you want our backup guy to be on the show? And I was like, I just need to know more about him how he keeps getting resigned and then he's never playing. And then it became kind of like this national thing every time you resign, then everybody's adding up your career earnings and earnings. You have it. It was that, did that start to piss you off? No, what? No way. Like we live in such a culture that like everyone gets so offended so easily. Everyone like, what happened to like the good old days before Twitter and Instagram where you're just busing everyone's balls, man. Like, I like that. Like I do the same thing. Like even now in today when I'm in media and I just have a little, it's weird. Like I have a little bit of a bigger platform in media and people like the the amount of tweets and stuff from different team bases and I just like laugh at that stuff. Like I never get, I never get like all up in arms about that. I think it was funny. Like I've even, I think I even retweeted it like the first time the career earnings and I'm like, yeah, you know, whatever. Like it's cool. And at that point, it was like, all right, like I know I'm probably not going to be a start in the league, but I just, I'm very big on like just not, not getting offended. Like I just think our culture and some of this stuff is so soft these days. And I don't want to get too far into it, but I just, you got to have fun with it. Like that to me was like a fun tweet. Yeah, I guess like maybe I was annoyed as a content person of other people in content being like you're doing it again. Like we've already covered this. Although it needed to be updated every single year. You said something though in 16 that I can't, well, it happened to you. So you remember it, but it's very easily forgotten because when I was obsessed with like, what are not you're going to get a chance this back like when I'm at ESPN. Yeah. You were number two behind Bradford in the 16 when they drafted Wins. And so then Bradford's out. Then as you just said, Wins jumps you. And I remember like doing a segment on it being like, what were they just nice to him? Like, hey, you're going to be the number two until we decide that you're not going to be the number two. We're just going to have Wins be the third. Did you actually think you were the second stringer and you got jumped by Wins or did you know that it was like he's a rookie. They're just putting him a third on the depth chart. Man. Good question. Really good question. And Philly fans hate me one because I think they everyone thinks I stole money from Philly, which you know, maybe I did, but also like I'm not the biggest fan. I'm a Hertz fan. So Philly fans like just can't like just those two together can't stand. I would say like when Doug Peter sent out the job and Doug Peter was the OC in Casey. So we were boys. He brought me in to help, you know, whatever. But if you look and you just look at the contract that they gave me, I think it was like three year 21 million upside for starting. I'm like, okay, that's like one of the and that was in 2016 mind you. So it was at that time easily the biggest backup quarterback contract there had been. But it was for three years and there was incentives to where it could get like 12 years. So it was one of those like, okay, fringe starter. And I'm like, oh, dude, this is awesome. Even though they have Brad for their and even in OTAs, I'm flipping days with Sam Bradford. I'm going with the ones. He's going to, you know, and they pick Carson with number two. And it didn't really hit me at that time because I'm like, okay, well, it's just a crowded quarterback room. You know, maybe they let them sit a year and learn and maybe they, you know, do something to say. And I get like, you know, six, seven, eight games to start. And then, you know, it's one of those like where I'm very self aware of like the situation. I'm not like so dumb in my mind. Well, of course, they dropped them to me to franchise. Like, yeah. But I would say I haven't told this story either. When I was in, you know, that time off between your last preseason game and like, cut day and then you get a little bit of time off, maybe like two or three days, we had gone up to, we had gone up to New York City, my wife and I, no kids or anything. He's affiliated New York City. I mean, you can make it in an hour or 10, hour 20, whatever. And we go on vacation. And the first night, I'm like, I need this with my, like, I hadn't seen her. I'd been training camp, the, the, the rigors of that. And I, my phone, I'm like, I'm not by my phone. For whatever reason, which is really weird, because I always have my phone. And someone texts my wife's phone like get chased to get to his phone. Like, what? And all these news and it's all over you. It's been all over that. And there was about a 15 minute period where I'm like, they're trading sandbrow for it away. And the news hadn't been released that they're moving Carson up. I'm like, holy cow. Like, maybe this is my chip. Like, I'm like, I'm thinking like, oh, okay. Because here's a thing too about Carson. And what made it in my mind is Carson broke a rib or hurt his ribs. If you got, if you, I'm probably not remember. But he hadn't really practiced in like three weeks. So we even had them sign another guy. I'm like, okay, I don't know if he's out or what else. I'm like, oh, for sure. I'm going to start. And then Doug Peterson calls me like 15 minutes later. Hey, here's what's happening. I want to get it to you before. And it was just like sort of crushing a little bit because it's like not that like I would have been a great start. Who knows? But I think it was like in my mind, the entire career had made it to that arc to where I'd be like, this is sort of crazy for 15 minutes. And then it's back to the ones. That was good. That was good. Because I remember it. I mean, obviously not with that perspective, but I just remember me like, is anybody paying attention to what just happened here? And then it was like, hey, you know, whatever it was, it was just the went story. You know what I love the most about one of these stories though? It's just the idea of like you being younger because any young athlete would have done it and be like, dudes are saying, I'm going to maybe take Breeze's job. And you're like telling your buddies that you're like, I'm coming for him. But hey, check out chase this YouTube page over 100,000 subs already. It really was a help to me getting a good understanding of how he's looking at these quarterbacks going in these conference championship games. And check out Scoop City's podcast. And let's do this again, man. Thanks so much. Yeah. Thanks for having me on, man. Before we move on with the show, a quick word on the tool that keeps people's workflow tighter than my takes, Microsoft 365 co-pilot. The world moves fast. Your workday even faster. Pitching products, drafting reports, analyzing data, Microsoft 365 co-pilot is your AI assistant for work built into word, Excel, PowerPoint and other Microsoft 365 apps you use, helping you quickly write, analyze, create and summarize so you can cut through clutter and clear a path to your best work. Learn more at Microsoft.com slash M3 65 co-pilot. He's a must read before the big NFL playoff games. Ted Wynne joins us now from the athletic, his film breakdowns are incredible. Good to see you, man. Thanks for doing this. Yeah. No problem. Good to see you. All right. So I was reading the NFC stuff on this one. Let's start with, which I think it's surprising maybe to a few people and it made me be like, oh, yeah, I guess so. The Rams rushing offense where they are historically from a success standpoint and how they match up against this Seattle front that I think we're all in love with right now after the last week. Yeah, I think so actually in terms of success rate, which is a efficiency measure, they are the most efficient run game in the last 25 years. And it matched up with the i-test. They do a really good job with their interior offensive line. They do a really good job from a schematic standpoint. And Sean McVeigh has really evolved the run game to the point it is now where it's kind of a mix of outside zone. They do some duo, which is more of a gap scheme run. And they don't have explosive running backs. Kyron Williams is not an explosive running back, but he does a really good job of finding these holes and just maximizing those runs. So you don't see these 10, 20 yard runs a lot, but they just keep grinding out those four yard runs whenever they need to first down to get those first down. So this is a very efficient run game. And like you said, the Seahawks run defense is one of the best in the league and they do it out of sub personnel. They don't have, they don't put that third linebacker on the field. They always do have a nickel or dime person on the field, but and they have light boxes. They keep two safeties deep and they're able to stop the run, which is kind of a secret to their defense. You can't run on them with the light bodies on the field. And when you pass on them, they have an advantage because they have the light bodies on the field. But the Rams were able to actually run the box extremely efficiently, efficiently, the most efficient that anybody's ran on them in that that regular season matchup. So and still it wasn't a great game. They average three yards of carry, but they're very efficient and they kept that defense honest. Yeah. Do you look at the yardage totals of the loss in Seattle and go, Hey, how come everybody momentum wise is now on the Seahawks because again, it's 580 one yards of offense in the game. They should not have lost. And yet now today, like I'm guilty of it too. It's just like, Hey, this Rams offense is regressed. That feels real. I don't know if it's a staffer finger thing, but momentum wise, it's like, you know, it's it's hard to watch what Seattle did against the Niners created a limited Niners team and be like, All right, I want to pick against them in that stadium, but 581 is a tough number to ignore. And it wasn't like it was in September. Yeah. I mean, it was a big blip. I mean, they've been so consistent defensively throughout this entire season. They had one bad game against Baker Mayfield when the entire secondary was out. I mean, I don't think they had I think they may have one starter in the secondary during the time that game. But since they've gotten healthy, nobody has been able to really have a good game against them. But Matthew Stafford had a explosion spot against them without the Vante Adams. So it's really Pukka Nukuah and a bunch of no name receivers out there. And like you said, Stafford had a phenomenal game. A lot of it has to do with his ability to manipulate the defense with his eyes. He has so many passes where he was looking off guys and that game winner to Pukka Nukuah. I know it wasn't a game winner, but it was a touched out and over time that could have been a game winner to Pukka Nukuah. He was looking to the sideline. There was no route to the sideline, but he was looking there the entire time. And he threw inside the Pukka. He moved the linebacker just enough and it was a touchdown. So I think what you know, pocket manipulation, I manipulation. We've seen Stafford do this in the Super Bowl too. It's going to be a big thing to watch in this game. I love Nick Emanwari. I loved him in college. When you're 6'3", 220 and run a 4'3", 8", it kind of surprises me that you would ever go in the second round because it was also, it wasn't like he was just a measurable guy when you watched him and taped. You're like, okay, this guy brings it. And now it's been, you know, you think about whether Spooner, there's so many dudes on the Seattle defense that I just love. But talk to me a little bit more about the flexibility of what an Emanwari can do as a safety. He also can sort of be like a hybrid linebacker, especially with some of the stuff that the Rams like to do with all these tight ends. Yeah, I'll surprise and see that he fell to the second round too. I thought he might have been a late first round grid because there were some mistakels and there were some some whiffs on tape as far as coverage stuff too. So I think he landed in a perfect spot for him and they put him in a perfect spot. They put him in that big nickel spot that Kyle Hamilton played for McDonald when he's with the Ravens. So we talked about how the Seahawks like to stay in sub-personnel. They do it at the highest rate of any team in the league and Nick Emanwari is really the secret to making that happen because he's their nickel. He's their fifth defensive back. But he's able to defend a run like a linebacker and he is not like he just tries to fly around blocks and and make tackles that way. If you watch that Niner game in the regular season, he was taking on George Kiddell. He was taking on Kyle Yussechek and pushing them back. You don't see defensive backs do that often. Linebackers have trouble doing that. So he's really the secret to making the Seahawks run defense work. And then when they pass the ball, he's as good as any guy at running with tight ends and using that freak athleticism and coverage to shut guys down. Darrell 30th in the NFL on Interception percentage. He's got the six against the Shula defense. So you could say, well, hey, he's just actually a guy. Despite the one seed, the turns of all over a lot. I think going into the playoffs, I pointed out the number that I had read from maybe ESPN research with his 20 total turnovers. It was the most turnovers for a quarterback of a number one seeded team going back to like the 70s. So is it a Shula thing or is it a Darnell thing? What has led to the turnovers here against Los Angeles? Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a Darnell thing. It's kind of been his his MO, his entire career, his big weakness where he sometimes will misread the coverage or you won't see an underneath defender and you'll put the ball in harm's way. And I think Chris Shula and the Rams just do a really good job of pressing on that weakness with their cover just guys. I think the Rams have a very smart defensive back group that recognizes patterns and they could see things on film and translate it with aggressive play on Sundays. So you know, one of the in both interceptions in that regular season game against the Rams, it was just really good play design. One where he made it look, the defense made it look like man coverage all the way up until the ball was thrown, but it was actually a cover two. The one that went for pick six and one in the red zone where they brought multiple players on a blitz and they had a defensive lineman drop out into the slant window and pick off that ball as well. So these interceptions are designed and I think Chris Shula is going to do a really he's really going to create some designer type of plays that Sam Darnell is going to deal with, especially on third and long. And it's not going to be easy like the Niners game where they're able to run the ball down to Niners throat. The Rams run defense has been one of the better run defenses throughout the season. So they're going to be in some third and long situations and when they get in those situations, Darnell has to be really careful with some of the skies that Shula's going to throw out at him. You're pick. I like the Rams in this one. I still have a bit of a fear of Sam Darnell in these big games and he hasn't really gotten that monkey off its back in my eyes. I felt like the last game was this was so dominant, especially right off the bat. You have a kickoff return for touchdown. So I want to see Darnell prove me wrong. I just don't trust them in big games just yet. Okay. What is in this kind of unknown AFC matchup here? And I know you've already done the prep in his piece his film breakdown. It'll be up on the athletic a little bit later today. Maybe by the time this comes out, I'll probably already be out. What's the one thing that jumped? Was there a surprise? Is there is there something one team is doing that you didn't expect? Give me the headline kind of result that you got from studying these two teams. Yes, sorry. I misspoke when I told you it'll be out tomorrow morning, but okay. The one thing I will say is Jared Stidham is a much, much better quarterback than people anticipate. I covered the Raiders for a long time. So I was there when he had that big blowup game against the Niners defense. When the Niners defense was at his peak when he had Nick Boasa, Warner, Afanga, all those guys, he threw for three touchdowns and almost beat them in a huge surprise win in a regular season. He's had a few start since then and I thought he's looked good in every one of those games. He's really aggressive. He has a good arm, very accurate. I think the one thing that you lose going from Bo Nix to Jared Stidham is Sakavoidans. Bo Nix's super power is avoiding Sakavoidans. He's extremely good at doing it. Jared Stidham, he's not a statue in a pocket, but he's not Bo Nix as far as avoiding Sakavoidans. But I think the good news is the Broncos have one of the best pass blocking off at the blinds and football. So I don't think it'll be as big of a deal. So yeah, I just think nobody should be underestimating Stidham. I think the drop off between him and Bo Nix is not as big as people would anticipate. I was really happy with like Nix in that game against Buffalo. I've not been the biggest fan and maybe that's just because I think like, hey, I think his ceiling is kind of average, which is maybe good enough with Sean Payton and the rest of the personnel stuff that they have. But the Green Bay game was incredible. The way he kind of gets like hot and cold, you know, where I think the play calling in the beginning of that game like Payton and their entire staff were so dialed in. But then you're like, okay, now let's see in the middle part of the game when things are becoming a little bit more unpredictable. And then he goes on like this cold streak. And so like, look, I mean, there's a lot of quarterbacks. He'd be like, hey, you're going to hit some throws or you're going to not. But his his running thing and keeping some stuff alive, like getting the third downs with his legs that he can't get with his arm. Because I still feel like a lot of his completions. Maybe this is an entirely fair. Maybe it's irrelevant now because we know Nick's isn't going to play because he hits Mims that Mims throws incredible. There's some go balls that he had in some of these comebacks that were terrific. But I feel like if I ever were to just kind of like go, what are the Nick's throws usually look like the palette? And it's like receiver turns on 12 yards. It's stopped inside the zone. You know, he finds that spot. Boom. Like that to me feels like the Nick's completion. And so maybe it's not that hard necessarily to duplicate that stuff. But I'm with you in that if you're asking Stidham to deal with pressure in the pocket, the way Nick's does, that's a big, big ask. And I don't know that I have enough. Like you have more access to him because you're covering that team at that time. I just, this is just not enough games. There's not enough games for me to have any definitive opinion. Hell, I'm talking with Chase Daniel about him having happy feet in 2018 with Auburn. And that might be completely irrelevant here eight years later. But if I see it, if I see it against doing with defense, I'm going to start thinking about it all over again and play. Yeah, that's the guy that I saw in college. But that could just be, hey, you're in the AFC championship and you haven't played in forever. And that's why you looked that way. Yeah. And for me, I have the same kind of relationship with Bo Nix's view where, you know, I don't think his feelings that high. And then he starts the season as one of most inaccurate passers of throws over 10 yards and league. Like I think he was 30 second and off target. Right? Just interrupt. There was like a deep ball chart of like air yards missed. And it was you know, Bo Nix was like Greenland, which I know is topical right now. But like all the other quarterbacks just where they were graph in the chart. Like Nix was, oh, I think that was like by week 10 or week 11. So keep going because I just thought like that when I saw that, I was like, yeah, that's kind of where I am with him. Like something's missing. Something's missing. And he was missing a lot of those areas. So keep going. Yeah. And Sean Payton is phenomenal at at dialing these up. So there's wide open guys that he was just missing down field. But then he has these great games out of nowhere. Like that green big game that you talked about. And there's these games where I think, all right, he's turning the corner. He's proving me wrong. I think I have to reset my expectation for Bo Nix. And then he goes out and has two or three games that are really bad. Like just finishing the the regular season, he he he was really bad and had a bad game. He has the Chargers backups. And I kind of doubted how he would do against the bill's secondary, which is actually really good. They're really good at disguising and they gave Trevor Lawrence a ton of trouble in that first playoff game. And when you look at the stats, Nix actually really struggles against the skies coverages. I thought he was going to really struggle against the bills. But he went out and he had a phenomenal game. He read the disguises. He made good decisions. And it sucks that he got injured. But it looked like another game where he was turning the corner. I don't know how he would have done in a second game. And I think that's going to be one of the things to watch out for with Jared Stidham is he hasn't had a lot of game action. So how is he going to react to New England's pressures and and coverage of disguises? Because they really turned a leaf defensively as far as turning up those blitzes and turning up those disguises that make it really hard for quarterback. So Stidham, who I think is a pretty good quarterback, but just have to lack a playing time and then going out and seeing an exotic defense like New England's, how is he going to react to that in real time? Okay. And I think the reason why we're both talking about Nix is we're trying to come up with like what are we actually asking Stidham to replace? And I'm still not sure that I even have that answer. What jumps out about New England and what they do on defense? Because you just touch on them there because it feels like this group is coming together without maybe the name awareness of certainly all the other units that are still alive. Yeah. I mean, I think one of the things that I was most excited about New England coming into the season was them pairing Carlton Davis with Christian Gonzalez because anytime you have obviously Christian Gonzalez is one of the most talented young corners in league. But when you usually pair up a corner with another great corner, you can't run away from from that corner. Like you get thrown away from Christian Gonzalez if there's a mid corner on the other side, but it's really hard to do with Carlton Davis. It's been really good and you saw those interceptions and making those plays against Houston. And now it's coming together because Christian Gonzalez feels like he's finally healthy. He's shutting guys down into playoffs. Then you have Carlton Davis who's extremely opportunistic on the other side. Marcus Jones is a pretty good nickel corner. And then Melton is finally healthy. So you're pairing him with Barmore. And then you have all these disguises and exotic looks that the defensive coordinator and Braeble's throwing at you, they've really taken off defensively in these playoffs. And one thing that I have to put a caveat on is they did face two of the worst offensive lines you're going to see with the charges offensive line and then the Houston's offensive line. But I do think schematically they do a lot of things that are challenging quarterbacks. But we're going to see how they do going from two of the worst offensive lines to having to play one of the better offensive lines in the league with the Denver Broncos. What is fair about what's going on with Drake May right now? Because you know, I could throw in my two sets. I'm not really concerned. But yeah, there's some stats you could get upset about. I am for the record. Like I don't think this is some playoff exposing of Drake May the quarterback, your thoughts. Yeah, I mean, he just hasn't been that good in the playoffs. He's lived on explosive plays in the playoffs, but the turnovers are an issue. But I think part of his MVP case is that he was able to elevate a very average New England offense and make them good. But the problem is when you're in a playoffs and you're playing really good defenses that supporting Cass is going to get exposed. His offense of line just isn't very good. They couldn't protect them against the chargers. They definitely couldn't protect them against the Texans, but he was still able to overcome that and makes enough big plays. But that often to blind is a problem and you only could elevate them so far, especially when you're facing these really good pass rushes and he's going to see another one in the Denver Broncos. Also, K-Shop booties been really good. But when he's your number one receiver, it's just that only could take you so far. So I think May is elevators offense, but the supporting Cass is so far behind the type of defenses that he's seeing that the ceiling for this offense just isn't as high. The defense has been carrying them. We'll see if that could carry on against Derek Stidham. I just don't think this offense is going to be one that is going to put up 25 to 30 points a game. So are you picking Denver? I'm picking Denver. I'm not a betting man, but I'm going to pick Denver. I'd be very happy to take Denver plus five in this game. Okay. All right. I have to ask you this. Has nothing to do with football. I guess I guess you could argue. I don't have to ask you this, but I feel like I'm a ball-nower when it comes to you. I've been aware of your girlfriend in the past and the picture of you, a girlfriend on social media yesterday. People were shook. People were shook. I guess I don't want to ask a press conference question here. The reaction, the reaction, your reaction to the reaction, perhaps, because it just felt like there's no way a ball-nower film guy would be able to pull this off and you have. And I'm psyched for you. Yeah, appreciate it. I think any girl appreciates a little public, thank you, great gratification or whatever. So I posted her before and it's funny seeing the responses because everybody just assumes like, yeah, this nerdy film guy probably has never even touched a girl in his life. So it's been funny. I think the new response now in this in this age is, oh, she's AI. That's a new one that I'm getting. So it's been hilarious and she's been keeping track of it. It's been funny for us both to see. I love when people find out about it for the first time. I had a couple people hit me up and like, don't you have this guy on? Does he like a film guy? I'm like, what's wrong? Maybe he's, maybe she appreciates how focused he is, that he can break things down, he can evaluate a cess, have an opinion. I don't see why he wouldn't pull this off. So I'm just, I'm happy for you, man. Good stuff. Appreciate it. Yeah, it shows to be the real that we talked about around podcast too. Yeah, I don't know how this is going, but I just felt like it had to be addressed. It had to be addressed considering the tweet, the post, all the stuff just happened yesterday. So I like to be topical on top of all the film stuff. You're great, man. Thank you. Enjoy the weekends. We'll have you on against soon, right? Sounds good. Appreciate it. The Alliance Conference Championship weekend edition with Surrey with Kyle. My name is Ryan. All right. Kyle, it's been a tough pod for you today. Long one. Guys just shitting on your path. How are you doing? You know what? What I did. Actually, after this whole week, I went and bought Madden 26. I was like, I'm not going to buy it this year. After all the Drake May stuff, is he good? Is he not good? I just went and bought Madden 26, very discounted. And I'm starting to play season right now. I'm on, we just beat the dolphins before this podcast. And I just want to do this whole thing. I'm all the way in now. I'll be quiet when I'm supposed to be quiet, but I don't have to be quiet at this part. So I'm going to feel good. I'm just blocking out the haters. And shook it all though. You know, we got film breakdown guy. We got a guy that knows and played in patent system. I bet you didn't pick the Patriots last week either. It's all, I mean, I haven't checked, but I bet that didn't pick the last week. I know. On top of your host. Yeah. That's right. It's like going, Hey, you realize how shitty this roster is? This is amazing. Yeah. So this is, this is just a three way. I got to be honest, I looking for what I was in MMMP on the Patriots. I look for what I was going to pick today. I kind of like some of the sit-in props. I was like, I can't do that to Kyle on the pot. I feel like that's just like not a good vibe situation. And then we have chase on and tag. We're both like, yes, it was awesome. He's going to fling it around the field. I'm like, should I though? Maybe I should take him. Maybe I'll do it on my own. Do what you want to do, man. I'm not no one's pulling any punches on this show for me. So I just go ahead. That's fine. Yeah. I feel like there's a little too much on Denver momentum, though. It's like everyone's kind of on Denver now. And I'm like, man, it's actually a good spot to buy back and on the past. Maybe you're there, Kyle. I hope everybody on ESPN does that again. And they all just picked Denver. I don't think that's what out, dude. Didn't know Stroud was going to turn into fucking stuff. What that is? What was that comp? Yeah. My algorithm has been feeding me people. DJ Lee. My Jesus. My algorithm's been feeding me people at Patriots jerseys. Like doing like worst kind of content. Like Patriots fans be like, all the other NFL fans be like. And it's just like, I don't, I'm already revved up enough. I don't need to see this anymore. You know, that's funny. I mean, we're get to the bed at some point. I stumbled upon this guy. It was like actually, maybe a couple guys who were like, nine or fans who are like, you know, acting, they're acting like they're on the team. They're like shit talking the Seahawks players. But if you think that you're going to do that to us twice in a row, you got another thing come and brother. And then they just like throw on a jacket or something and they try to see them all bad. After you're like, you're a grown man. And you're doing this on Instagram. I'm a TikTok acting like you're on the team. Tough look, tough look. And they got humble pretty quick. But I mean, you know, that's one of those things to you. It's like it's for the content, man, because they know they're going to get a bunch of engagement. Yeah. And they don't care how much of a loser they look like. And I'm the one who's a sucker for talking about it. There's too much content. If I were president, I would have a new cabinet member would be like, your emperor of content and you got to find a cap. We're going to have a hard going to doom scroll all the time. And then you're just going to say, you can't do anything anymore. Like you're just fucking done. I don't care if it's legal, not legal. You know, who knows? As long as my guy Carol Adam, like keeps is able to keep doing his thing. Oh, man, fine. Oh, goes be got him. Yeah. Got him on video at the wake game or something. I think there should be like a new arm of government that just goes. I don't want government interfering all the time. I'm not building a shed in the woods. I'm not that. But I just think that there should be just a, hey, there's too much. There's too much right now. Oh, what's your thing? Oh, you have a boss in accent? You're going to eat some fucking food, right? Yeah. Okay. Is it this should be like, is there anyone better off for having seen this content? Yes or no? No. All right. You're out. No, that's a stake sandwich. We all going to try. All right. Um, anyway, and if people think I was making fun of portal, I wasn't because his accent, I still can't understand. I don't know what it is. Uh, and look. All right, moving on. Because it seems like a life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Should we just move on? All right. Let's move on. All right. Let's get the pick out. The cows are just dark. Is that mean? Yeah. This is kind of my segment now. Yeah. I'll do it. Um, sure. I was going to say Patriots minus two and a half alt, alt spread because I mean, the, the money line is just crazy. Nobody wants to take that bet. If that's not okay, I'll take a Jared's. Did him interceptions? Rudy was giving me a little, talking a little crap off air that it may be the odds were a little bit too wonky. But it's, I think it's what minus one ninety two. If you add, you guys add a couple picks, that'll be something that's, you know, yeah. But in the right range. I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to be a hater here, but I think the sit of interceptions like pretty, it's like minus two hundred as well. All right. Take a look here. So what are these guys talking about? Anyway, I'll take the pass minus two and a half. Take the paths. Yeah. That's good. There you go. Um, alt spread. I am going to go with Matthew Stafford over should two plus pass and touch downs, I should say. So over one and a half. Um, he had none last week, but previous to that, he had, I think 12 straight games of two plus. I know the fingers still kind of an issue. They hung 37 on Seattle. The last time they played on that they lost. He's on it in both Seattle games this year. I believe the Rams are going to win this game. I'm with our guy Ted. Uh, you know, I'm just, I'm kind of a Stafford Homer a little bit here. So I'm going to take two touchdowns or more for Stafford pass and touch downs. I think Donald's going to have to get the ball in the air, uh, even though I think Kenneth Walker is one of the most underrated players in the NFL. I fucking love that guy. Um, and obviously with the injuries of running back, the whole thing and like, I know that the oblique injury here with Donald has me feeling a certain way, but I just think it's going to end up that he's going to have to get the ball in the air. So they think they may have to like, he's, I'm not doing a great job with this, but like it just feels like even if he's throwing picks and even if, like it just feels as if, especially if you look at his game log over the year, um, you know, that first Rams game as a mess, it's till 279, uh, the overtime game 270. So I think over 250 is where I'm going to land unless the weather ends up just being terrible. And then Walker runs for 180 yards and Tarna has 112 and the Rams are in the Super Bowl. So. All right. So that, Raleigh has to be crazy passing. Paths minus two and a half, all spread and Stafford to throw at least two touchdowns is plus four 11 on draft right right in the zone. See? Yeah. It's all that mess. Talk to that four 11. Sorry. No, I'm just saying if four, the three 11 ever broke up, you wonder if they would go your big three 11 guy. Yeah. All right. I love three 11. You don't give you guys no follow Nick Hexham. I don't. USC 324 this weekend on Paramount, the headliner, just engage you going to begins patty, Pimlett and Dana White joins us. Okay. Dana, let's get into this fight. I'm excited about it. Like so many other people are with these guys and their styles. What has you most excited about this matchup? Yeah. So I'm always interested in the top five guys in the world. Nightweight, the champ is is Stoeporia. These two are going to fight for the interim title. Armand Serook and Charles Olivera, Max Holloway, Justin Gateson and Patty Pimlett. Those are the top five guys in the world. So anytime you have guys in the top five that are facing each other, you know you have two of the best in the world and it should be for and I mean neither one of these guys are ever in a boring fight. You obviously you're thinking everybody always counts Patty Pimlett out yet he's undefeated in the UFC. Justin Gateson is not stop action from bell to bell. So you ask yourself stylistically if you're Patty Pimlett you probably want to get it to the ground and try to submit them. Gateson wants to keep it standing in bank. But who knows maybe Patty will stand and fight with them. Every time people think Patty's going to lose, he proves them wrong and wins. So it should be a fun one. Can you tell with a fighter like the legends right? The guys that are so tough that how enamored we are with these guys that are truly the special ones. Right. Can you tell like the difference between hey the toughness and the drive but also the miles catching up to that fighter? Yeah well you know what's crazy you know I don't know how you are but I'm 56 when I was growing up when you were an athlete professional athlete you started to get into your 30s you know you were looking down the barrel of your career being over and nowadays not just in the UFC. I mean these guys that are I mean John Jones just came back and won the heavyweight title and then you know there's tons of people here who have been around for a long time and the same thing Brady played for a long time it's just it's all changed. You don't know in fighting especially you don't know when it's the end of somebody's career until they put on a couple of those performances and you're like or you know they get knocked out badly and just start to realize all right it's time for this guy to wrap it up and when it's time to wrap it up you're not in the top five in the world you know right for sure. You mentioned puria how does this result then affect his involvement and what's next because I know patty was like hey if I win this thing he's going to weigh he made me wait in this whole thing but I would have imagined you have as much to say about that as anybody. You're talking about to puria? Yeah yeah so these guys are fighting for the interim title which means whoever wins is next for for earlier when he's ready. Which is it? Okay. He's going through some personal problems right now that he's got to get through and then he can get back into camp and fight the summer. So it doesn't matter what patty said about to purie at all then it's like well they don't like each other so they're going to say a lot of things about each other but at the end of the day patty fumble is very easy to work with he's a great guy and so is to puria. I know whenever you're talking about fighters you know I think I can tell and watch and so many of the press conferences over the years when you'll say like hey I love this guy because we call them any fought right and I think you do a great job of like making a point of that of like making the public realize like this guy like even though we're talking about fighters like you have to love fighting to even be at this level we know some guys are going to love it a little bit more than others some guys are probably going to want everything on their terms are going to want a perfect amount of rest they're going to maybe want to even play it a little bit like hey how do I have an advantage with my rest versus the next opponent all this different stuff how much do you hate maybe having to manage that part of it I mean there's a promotion there's a business and all that kind of stuff but realizing hey there's a list of guys as soon as I call I know they're ready to fucking fight as opposed to like oh this guy's mr. on his terms all of the time well it's not even that that it's on his terms you know when you get these guys in the top 10 a lot of guys are afraid to lose their positioning right you know they're ranking in the top 10 and then you got the guys that you call up and they're just ready to go they don't give a shit who they're fighting or you know where it is or what the deal is they're ready to go and yes I do like to point out those type of guys who is the best who is your favorite ever you know people talk a lot of smack and like oh he was a goal of us that Conor McGregor when we pick up the phone and there was a change of opponent it wouldn't even face him wouldn't stun him he would he would literally say call me call me when you got somebody for me to fight let me know you know and then you know when you looked at Conor at that time everything was very high stakes for him you know who's a huge superstar pulling big pay-per-view numbers and usually guys that would get in that type of a position were the worst to deal with Conor was never like that he wouldn't show up to press conferences on time and shit like that but he was always ready to fight are you sick of being asked about Conor's future with the USC no I listen he's the biggest star ever and the sports history and he's one of the biggest sports stars period so I get it is it done though I mean is this actually ever gonna happen again I don't know I don't know the answer to that question I'm sure you want I mean the person knows the answer to that and it isn't me right I mean you grew up boxing anybody that understands any stuff like the dumbest thing ever is the thing that a fighter is never gonna fight again right because it's just not like they need to do it there's there's something about these way these guys are wired there's always that paycheck this way out there for him and I'm sure they're they're they would do big numbers because we'd all be waiting we'd all want to see what happened I just can't fathom that like this much time off like I'd be excited about it my hopes would be very diminished about who he would be now I'll tell you what makes Conor different than than a lot of other fighters is that you know fighters will make a lot of money fighting and you eventually burn through that money and you have to fight again Conor has been very successful outside of the octagon with businesses and things that he's done he's he's been able to make a lot of money in the octagon and a lot of money out of the octagon and when you have people that fight and they make that kind of money it's a beef and a burger meta is another one like hubby had a good a fought for a long time and and you know tried to break records and do all this other stuff he made so much money that you know he didn't have to fight anymore what I love about the u.s. is that you're not heavyweight dependent right you don't need the heavyweight class to be the the end all be all I mean there's I'd probably say over the years like the light heavyweight it's probably been my favorite maybe middleweight whatever it doesn't matter but where would you like the heavyweight class with u.s.c. to be in comparison to kind of where it is right now listen we're in a good spot I'm happy with our heavyweight division I'm happy with all the divisions right now you know even when you look at the women's banemweight division we're looking at Kayla Harrison and and Amanda Nunez which is the greatest female fight of all time period in any combat sport you know Joshua van at flyweight Peter Yon just this one Vokinowski is going to fight next week we got the whole thing playing out with Toporia the Kenzie Dern who's probably going to fight Wailey Zhang now Valentina still at the top of the women's flyweight division then you got Islam Hamza Chimaya Alex Praira and Tom Aspinal I mean if you look at all the champs that we have in every division and what we're looking at coming down the fight in 26 it's going to be a fun year why do you think Aspinal Jones like was such a problem like what why do you think it was like Jones wanted to tease that out it felt like forever and it just was like do you actually want to do this some Jones is a very unique guy to deal with so you know that's nothing new I I've said it a million times and I'll say it again he's the greatest of all time he's the go to the sport there's there's no debating but he's a nightmare to deal with and in a lot of different ways and and he's a guy that you know in my position he's a guy you absolutely positively cannot count so if he calls you up and says hey I'm I'm back yet which I think all of us are wondering like it's going to happen at some point do you well he's been saying he wants the White House fight it's not like you say hey I'm out see ladies he wants the White House fight is he going to get it there is any fight ever in the history of the UFC that I can't risk putting somebody in the main event that that I can't trust that won't show up and deliver it's him how was the national championship I was good right up until the end it was a great game here's what everybody said to me so I'm going to the game and I was like that's not going to be a fun game for you you know and it ends up being a great game went right down to the wire right down to pretty much the last play so it was fun can Trump bring you and Jake Paul together so what's funny is that's the first time that Jake Paul and I have ever met face to face really yeah what I don't know I'm just trying to think of like is your internal dialogue like this fucking guy or is it like hey this is kind of funny like I'm sure it was the same for both of us we're not going to act like idiots in front of the president of the United States so you know we were very cordial and we had a conversation but I don't know that I blame you for being like I can't stand you look I respect the hell out of what he's doing you know I don't hate the kid you know he's he's he's doing his thing and everybody can talk shit about Jake Paul you know you don't like him you don't do whatever the kid has maneuvered himself around made some money made himself relevant and you know good for him okay let's talk about the TV deal because I would say you know somebody who's worked at ESPN I was there a really long time and you could see just everything changing really quickly and everybody's trying to figure out like where where do you need to land when all of this stuff stops and you've got this deal now with paramount and I wonder in in mapping all this stuff out and knowing that you're going to need like partners you know who knows when this deal expires I don't know the next thing why did this make the most sense for the UFC right now well as we were if you would ask me you know six months before our rights were up give me your top three places you think you're going to land paramount would not have been on the top three you know I obviously didn't see it coming it's it's a fascinating thing about about business and and you know once you get out there and start shopping your rights or whatever whatever the deal is it's it's like when when we sold the UFC Ari Emmanuel was our agent I would have never dreamed that Ari would have been the guy that ended up coming and and picking it off so you never know when you when you go into these type of things but as you start to go out and shop around you start to feel out the synergies and and and obviously you know Netflix made a lot of sense for us too and we really like them and it looked like Netflix was probably going to be the home for all the pay per views and then we're going to chop up the fight nights amongst some of the different networks and then literally at the at the 23rd and a half hour paramount came in and said we want all or nothing and and and the deal closed quickly does your like like there's this position you have which is a really rare position to make this kind of decision and figure out I'm like hey we're going to give you everything and then you look around like it's it's not a secret that it probably means way more revenue for the NBA to split up all of their stuff for the NFL like and we've looked at it and be like you'd realize all the different services that you have to have to watch an entire NFL season right now. Is there any part of you like as a football fan that sees the complication of that influencing this part of the paramount thing beyond the money where you're like this is just an easier transaction for our fans and nowhere our home is. 100% so here's the thing you know to be able to have everything on the same channel including boxing now too right it's such a home run and not for us what we're doing you know the fights no matter where they end up but for the fans so for the last however many years the fans have had to pay for ESPN plus then by the pay-per-view and our fans have been very good and very loyal to us and to be able now for uh you know for the entire year it will cost you less than what a pay-per-view was last year and you know all the other entertainment that have on Paramount Plus right now Landman and Mobland are two of the greatest TV shows that I've ever seen and they're both on Paramount Plus you should get Paramount Plus just for that right on top of that you get all the UFC and all the other movies and TV shows that they have on Paramount Plus. So is there as you're debating this and I think it's it's one of these things like hey in five years like am I going to be right you know I mean in five years is this going to make the most sense or should we have chopped this up or is this the better partner because I think the difference at least with your brand you know it's always going to be successful but I imagine it's really hard to figure out like hey are we making a great decision or are we making a decision that we think is right right now like any of this stuff I think it's just so hard because it's all moving so fast and everybody's grabbing all this content any possible way they can't end packaging it. I don't need five years I already know we made the right decision and and it's not take the money out because people always like all the money is my we're gonna make money no matter where we go right you know we're gonna get paid no matter where we go and we'll make it work our first deal with Spike TV was $35 million and we built the business up global you know the money is never it if I could tell you if I could express to you the level of excitement that Paramount and CBS has for being in business with us it's unbelievable so I already know that I made the right decision now remember I was with these guys back when it was a whole different company and different guys were running it so so there's a guy when we were on Spike and I'm a very loyal person we want we you know we went to renew the deal with Spike TV there was a guy that was running that part of the company Philippe Dumas okay this guy put a bullet in every brand that that that the MTV VH1 terrible cause himself Philippe Dumas his name is Phil fucking dummies from Jersey okay he wants to sound like he's from fucking France or something but we went to a lunch with this guy and for the first 40 minutes me and Lorenzo had to sit there and listen to how rich he is um and basically his his deal was I built the UFC and I'll just build another you know I'm not gonna pay you guys what you want so everything happens for a reason and that led us to the Fox deal Eric Shanks from Fox Sports we had a great run with those guys still have a great relationship with everybody at Fox which then leads to the ESPN deal right at a great relationship with those guys going out on great terms with them and here we are a paramount that was meant to happen Phil Duman uh what what was uh that whole thing everything happens for a reason so I couldn't be happier I don't need five years I know we made the right decision and uh we're already pumped to be with paramount I spent a lot of time talking about basketball we we do a lot of like eras hey this guy could play this guy couldn't play today I mean there's a lot of people bird Jordan fans hanging on that that's the best basketball this isn't the best basketball I'd look at the evolution of the athlete and be like hey you can like things about the past but it's just it's just ridiculous but then I think back like I remember first meeting you when you just come to go up to the studio we were 1510 the zone there in Boston and you'd bring us all the DVDs and shit and Chuck came by and I met you that for I was like man when college we would just sit there and we could these pools going and we'd be watching these guys come out and they'd be fighting as you know and the listeners maybe some of the younger ones don't remember is you would just fight a tournament that night you fight multiple tournaments I think UFC 17 was the last one or that's when it when it stopped like late 90s there if we were to do an eras thing of like the best fighters now you've been around for all of this stuff how would you compare like or how would you get into the conversation of like I don't want to diminish the toughness but the pool of this many generations being influenced by the UFC the pool of available fighters in the competition is so much greater than just random badass Don Fry who's gonna be who's gonna be our guy in one of these early days UFC events yeah if you look at obviously the pre what I call the pre-Zooth era before we bought it which is you know before 2000 right and then you look it from from 2001 to today where the evolution of the sport you know the original UFC was the answer the age old question of which fighting style was the best with karate beat kung fu with boxing beat wrestling stuff like that what they never realized is that they were creating a sport and we sort of saw that came in you know created a league got a back on television got a back on paper view and all that but the evolution of the sport not just the but the training I mean when we first bought it like Chuck LaDelle is a perfect example Chuck used to have to go do boxing training kickboxing training then he'd go to a jujitsu class that he'd do a strength and conditioning now all of that is in is in one place it's you train for MMA and a list goes on and on about how the sport is evolved since then so do you think if you take like a Mark Coleman from then and then just plopped him into a title fight today is he not skill is he not well-rounded yeah I said no I think that Mark Coleman you brought Mark 26-year-old Mark Coleman back here he's still a problem yeah you bring in 26-year-old Chuck LaDelle he's still a problem I mean Mark Coleman is the godfather of the ground and pound you know great wrestling take you down because they had a submission Chuck LaDelle had bombs in both hands I mean he could stuff to take down and he would knock you out and he had an iron chin back then too my favorite thing about Chuck is that every time somebody would try to take him down I don't know how his body was made what the torso leg ratio was on him but he would just spread and he was like oh I guess you just can't take down prime Chuck LaDelle like there's just there's just I shoot him and I have him and then he just doesn't or he would get back up in a way that was like how is he getting back up so I'm with you like I never want to be disrespectful of previous eras but I think the greatest thing about this sport is that back then you're talking about like oh this guy's some karate badass and this is some dude from Brazil but nobody's doing it and now I don't care what Jim you go to like people there's just kids everywhere that want to do this stuff and you're just building a greater foundation of future athletes if that many more people are doing something it just means the competition and the skills that you have to develop to even get to these levels is so much more clout there's just there's some way more traffic is the way should I say to even get to your globally the whole world I mean if you look at Australia right so in Australia when we first went over there there was Elvis Cinnacic there was one guy in the whole country that that that could fight in the UFC now there's multiple world champions multiple top 10 I mean talking about that little place on earth all the bad dudes that are coming out of the end they got one of the one of the best camps in the world there at the time when we first bought the company VJ Penn you know now you got Max Holloway I mean two of the baddest dudes ever both come off you know Hawaii and it's just it's fascinating which and I'm gonna let you go here shortly but and when you look at like American basketball and you're kind of going like hey where are the Americans like look at all the MVPs that are international players and there is some synergy there too if you think about the dream team early 90s you guys coming in it's only like 25 years of this thing being like completely on the Raiders like who knows what this thing is gonna look like in another 25 years which is why you know what I always say yeah go ahead yeah go ahead we've been my philosophy right I'll go to England right I'm laying a bed watching TV and I land on cricket I don't get it I'm never gonna get it you know I don't understand the game now I can I I can go to Mexico flip through the TV and a boxing match is on right the two guys are fighting and and the guys are talking in Spanish but I don't know what they're saying I don't care what they're saying this doesn't need to be explained to me it's fighting I get it I like it and my philosophy was that's how this is all over the world when you have when you have a fight with the right people at the right time and the right place the ceiling is eight billion there's eight billion people in the world and you could get almost all of them to watch it if you have the right fight which place that you traveled you think is is the most passionate fighting culture it's a it's a great question actually because I say it all the time I'm like if you've never seen a fight in England you got to go check out the fight in England Paris France which you would never except Paris France the energy in the bus you go down to Rio de Janeiro Brazil the fans are awesome the fans are awesome up in Canada I mean everywhere we go around the world Australia I mean we we we sell out soccer stadiums and and Australia and and the crowd is incredible like everywhere we go you know when you match make the fights right and and you put on a great show and you know I said it's all the time I sell holy shit moments for a living that's what I do and if we get you know two three four those holy shit moments it's just it's a very unique incredible experience to watch the UFC live I can't wait this weekend USC 324 Gachi Pimble it uh Dana White and right in front of this White House event that um I know I can't wait to see how this thing even comes together on this one what's the attendance going to be at this we were literally working on that yesterday it's going to be around between four and 4500 four thousand 4500 people that's going to be a select list and then 85000 in the park just across the street at the at the ellipse 85000 people in the park at the ellipse we're gonna have a big stage we're gonna have screens um yeah what we're gonna we're gonna roll in and take over DC landman spottings in there gonna Billy Bob insider will he be he's across the street have you watched lamb man yet I have yeah both see and what do you think I love Billy Bob I love the location I miss John ham I don't quite understand the nursing home scenes but it's been an awesome show does suck that we lost John ham his character was great too I know Billy Bob the daughter and the wife are incredible the look yeah great and the writing from the minute that show starts till it ends I literally laughed my ass off the writing is so so good and Billy Bob Dortnis just absolutely brilliant he's awesome in it man and uh paramounts do it's you mob land yet mob land I liked even more the landman I gotta flip a coin on that one it's they're both neck and neck incredible I could watch Tom Hardy just looking cool for 60 minutes I mean I feel weird saying it but he's just great at it well for all us guys that love snatch you know it's like guy richy is back with his style of you know it's so good well I'm happy for you that you are paramount it's fired up for the next fight and uh everything you guys are doing over there so thanks thank you brother have a great day you too this segment is brought to you by Microsoft I'm gonna go over my NBA ballot for the all-star voting here in the east it was totally straightforward my votes for the same votes that played out I didn't think there was really any issue to it it's Brunson it's Cade it's Jaylen Brown it's Maxi and then it's Yannis there's an argument if you're looking at the Yannis number of games played and where the bucks were in the standings I mean you can do that kind of stuff but I think when you ultimately are like one of the three best players in the world I'm gonna go ahead and do that and I didn't think there was another player in the east that it was like this is outrageous that you're not putting this guy in there in the west it was a lot more crowded the automatics or SGA Yokech Luca uh women Yama and Kuri are the starters my ballot was a little bit different there I think that you could throw into that conversation clearly aunt who I did vote for overstep I wrote down all the names in the process the way I did it and then you know look I just try to be that guy where I'm like oh man I guess I'm I can't I can't justify Kuri over and I couldn't um Aunt won the media and the player vote but he was too behind in the fan vote so the aggregate of where step was he wasn't gonna he wasn't gonna get the spot over step uh women Yama I had a little bit more of an issue with uh apparently I think there was only I don't know maybe 30 of us that didn't vote him in there uh he's he's a top 10 player in league there's no question about that but it was a games missed and the fact that it wasn't even just games missed but he was averaging 23 minutes a game in uh December and he had only passed the 30 minutes in a game threshold twice and both those times were after the ballot was due so I'd put my ballot in before he'd even played 30 minutes in a game for this first time going all the way back to November 14th so uh I'm not outraged about like him being a starter but uh I'm telling you right now like if you do I'll deep dive on who Kauai has been since he's been back and I was kind of surprised that I got there and you could also go standings and everything but like like was it was like okay since he's been back he's been playing at this level and he's played this many games so I I know that the clear counter is eight you're gonna go to the standings and all the stuff um there's they're not one there's not really one collection of fast rules you know hard and fast rules for me on this kind of stuff I I thought the east was really easy I had no problem with the honest then because I thought the west was so hard and I had to start separating some of these different things um I'm totally fine with having aunt and overstepped I didn't love the woman Yama part of it but I just thought Kauai and especially with the limited minutes part woman Yama I mean Durant might have had a better case um then women Yama did but that's not the case he's going to be starting so yeah a little bit of a breakdown for you there on my all-star ballot Microsoft co-pilot the AI assistant that actually helps you get stuff done co-pilot works across Microsoft 365 word excel powerpoint outlook turning chaos into productivity need a presentation co-pilot builds it need a summary of a meeting you definitely zoned out in co-pilots got you let co-pilot do the heavy lifting you 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All right life advice life advice rr at gmail.com we will get to it today's podcast is really long there's a lumber yard email in here that I love I had a few people reach out about investing in their lumber yards I can't imagine that wouldn't you want to anyway that goes would that go right is there any way that that goes well I just got somebody through a life advice email and was like yeah all right here's now where's my hoodie and I just want to see the financial statements you can forward to this guy and can I pick up a shift I don't think I do it in California so I don't I don't know that I could ever commute nor nor caldo you know I'm stuck going out up there there's probably actually a lot of places in California if I went a little bit more east hmm three what I never really thought about got to say never thought once about checking out every one of these really I know there's the parks maybe that I should but I just I don't know I'd watch the weather report and stuff and I just be like no inland empire sounds cool pretty sure the report was y'all got the stories the jazz ensemble you mean the actual weather yeah yeah I think there's a lot of stuff in California that we would be blown away by that we don't think about and then it makes me makes me think I should just do a summer discovering California but I'm not going to read that email right now podcast is already again too long although um I have to I gotta find this one maybe I'll end with it a little bit yeah shots fire we'll start with it so I'm under six foot tall slightly fat though less than I used to be shout out planet fitness as an only child and the lead singer of a scaband I'm starting to feel like you guys are trying to alienate me personally all of that is 100% true just absolutely unloading the clip on me today I don't have scott thoughts I mean that's more of a Ryan thing but I like scott I just don't know that I would identify this is a huge scaga yeah yeah my only introduction to scott was Tony Hawk Pro Skater I don't know that was real music until probably several years after I played though I thought it was just for the for the game I don't know if this could be actually someone making music and then yeah so PFT loves him some scott that's not surprising yeah I don't know other than like the mighty mighty boss that one's right who out whatever I mean the devil finger the specials there's probably some special songs that you like that you don't even realize how much you like mad about that yeah I guarantee there's a couple there's two special songs that you like that you don't even realize that you like okay maybe police somewhat influence by the sky moving like the police yeah I never really thought your sky was bad could you pull off the only only child thing maybe a little bit but I think it's not saying it yeah I mean I tried to I tried to put like some what do you call that like when you try to add something on to make it less mean and you're like no no no it's it's exactly as mean as I wanted so maybe maybe you could pull in the reins on that one but yeah I think the scott thing is yeah that's right um yeah I don't know I mean maybe maybe it's because I've dated a couple only children and it's just so obvious how different it is and so when we have these emails I'll just see all these triggers where I'm like okay okay okay I mean how many times you've been right about it right it's almost like always it's an unbelievable hit rate certainly better than the alliance for me lately uh right okay I just if that email is real that this guy's an only child lead singer of a scott band I'm you know what you're right that's sorry dude yeah you got a lot on your plate no I mean sorry about some of the stuff we've been saying lately you know so well stop now but sorry yeah will it stop no when I see only only child triggers in the email I'm going to bring it up I mean we did it too we did it with a not only child where the guy was worried about his roommate situation who lived on the floor and looked like he was only watching Rambo first blood was like I could I could I could do that this summer um I was like this feels like a guy that things have kind of worked out he's a little bit more neat I guess he's gonna have two older sisters and the guy broke back was like yeah I'm the youngest of three I have two older sisters because I've lived with that guy too I know what I know what he's like all right emails good ones I'm gonna get AI on that filtering the good ones you know that I don't know I'm not sure that I 100% trust her right now I would agree actually a good point yeah we had a lot of people with the coffee shop what's the reason I'm leaving me a lot what do you want me to do quick I do you know what we'll do is we can be a mean business yeah we'll do a small business special no I want to hear it I want to hear it all right let me let me go back follow up surdi's coffee shop quick idea review by sc bean LLC for what makes his spot special as I've grown into adulthood like many others my appreciation for equality couple coffees only increased while there's desire addiction to caffeine is on a heater as of late and shows no signs of stopping as my wife and I are expecting our first child one of the many joys of parenthood I anticipate is the resurgence of breakfast food quick to make and good enough for you if you've wanted to be this inspired the concept I propose a split level diner coffee shop that's got a true greasy spoon seating area and service with a coffee bar downstairs instead of a cup of Joe and asking them to leave the pot it's a full espresso menu cheers and I think 5% cross sales royalty should do so he wants you to open up this is expanding before we even get started I got a diner but yeah high-end coffee inside of the diner that two floors I like that two floors lot of square footage there Kyle yeah there's a coffee spot in the cave that I really like called snowy out they literally just have it's like a hut it's just like a per like there's it's like the guy in a room in front of me right and I was like you know there's probably not a ton of you know costs in that you know I don't know what is the rent that space out but like the overhead it's not big but I do think there is a food component that I'd be interested in so that would have to be a bigger space in breakfast brec we're so you guys feel like I there's a lot of times we're like I feel like sometimes I at home could cook better breakfast food than places that I'll go to get breakfast food at like it's the one thing where it's like why do I cook why don't why eggs better why is my toast just better you know what I mean I think you by the way gradients I think the on mass production of eggs type things can get a little bit you know we're sacrificing stuff here because we're gonna make a bunch at a time and yes I do absolutely think that my little homemade egg McMuffin will be better than if I went to another place that was trying to do that absolutely so if you could like scale that replicate like hey just like this is something you get at home it's decent it's relative achieved and you've got great coffee I would yeah yeah I'm I'm give me your number I'm interested I feel like I'm about starts that way and then it ends up with fucking shitty folded eggs and right everyone starts with a good dream a lot of people do a bad eggs out there I would agree yeah yeah you know work you know work there's gravel decks um all right stainless sick at work yeah yeah uh start for the long email that's soup that's super short by the way six to two thirty no big lift numbers but I've got the engine right sure do partner one full marathon and two halves down finally cracked a sub two hour mark on the half recently Ryan Kyle Seroody I'm hitting a culture in the office wall I work in finance in a major southwest city but I'm a Midwest guy at heart I'm still stuck in that pre-COVID mindset we're showing up to work while sick was a badge of honor back then if you could stand up you were at your desk it was about toughness and the grind but now that same toughness feels like a social crime I got sick before MLK weekend I took Friday off had the Monday holiday and work from home Tuesday I'm back in the office now feel 100% no fever no aches but I have that lingering dry post viral cough that sounds way more dramatic than it is I'm sitting here crushing cough drops but every time I clear my throat the floor looks at me like I'm a biohazard in our hybrid setup two in two work from home glad I figured that out in the fly I could stay home but my pre-COVID brain says taking another day for a tickle and the throws soft meanwhile the modern office etiquette says I'm the jerk who won't take the hint where are we on the lingering cough am I a grinder for being here or the guy everyone hates well it depends on what you're in if you're in solar panels I'm sure everybody psyched if you're in um now there's a joke there but I'm not going to do it anymore uh there's probably some people like you're gonna be a daycare they go out yeah I thought you know there was a time there if you sneezed you may have been shot like peak COVID stuff like you you know how like hey are you yeah how dare you my mom's so right who knows uh we all did our best but my head my my like one sentence response or it's gonna be a couple sentences but it's no one gives a shit that you didn't miss work because you were sick anymore no one cares like it's a cool thing to be able to say it fucking means nothing stay at home I've never I don't even know how to go about it like I've just never once I was like there's no way I can like with a straight face feel like I'm just really not feeling good today like I could totally do I can walk I can't whatever like I just don't I've never said the words to the person that needs to hear them so I I don't know I'm a little I sure here's what I would have done is I would have lied and said my doctor says I'm not contagious anymore you know instead and I'm not even worrying about it unless somebody says something to me like if they're just looking they're just looking if they're like dude are you sick that that's when I'd be like no doctor said I'm not contagious maybe that's maybe that's illegal but I don't know yeah as a guy I've been sick a lot recently I think you know has to do with I think the kid's situation daycare is to begin to daycare it's just a you know assess pool of literal terms all the time and you know it happens I oftentimes sound and look and maybe even like coughing way worse when I'm in bed when I know what I believe I'm looking sound terrible for some I look oh yeah I look parents so just I'm scared my appearance when I am honestly feeling a little bit better that's sometimes when I sound and look and and you know the worst and you have this like weird cough because you got all this mucus but you're actually you're like the cold is kind of gone in me so like I you know I've always thought about that like you probably think I'm horrible right now but actually I feel as good as I felt in days so there is I think a little bit of a of a of a gap there and people's understanding of it I will say back at the ESPN days I mean this always this always went back to like I've mostly worked in jobs where if you call out you're fucking somebody else over right you have ruined somebody else's day because now they're gonna have to figure you're like take your shift or do a double or whatever and I've always been self conscious about that and I hated it and I hate it when people would do that to me so you know I would be somewhat sick but if I'm like not dying you know if I'm able to move around and do things I would mostly go to work whereas now you know I'm with Kyle like working at home and doing this kind of thing and not going to an office as much like there's really no excuse but if you're in an office where people are actually understanding of wanting you not to be in when you when you feel sick I think you gotta use that to your advantage call out like if you're if you're able to do that like maybe it's filthy on your conscience I wouldn't feel necessarily great about it but if that's the culture at your workplace I think you got an embrace it or can you just ask them if you go from home hey I'm not feeling good I know people don't like you want to come to them sick I feel like I could still do work but I'll stay at home to avoid the germ thing is that the answer because um I feel like that helps everybody I think his conscience is post MLK four day weekend he took the Friday off to think he was like now this is excessive I'm definitely good and then I'm just gonna have this little cough that's where I would have just brought the little white light hey dude not contagious all good gotta check that yeah that was always the worst there were people I remember back the ESPN they was like you just knew the first day that they were back from like a week long vacation they were calling out sick and you're just like a alright cool like so now now now we're pulling a double here we're having to figure out your situation because you just got back from Disney World and you needed an extra day to like somehow cope with all that and you're screaming everybody else over so that was always in the back of my mind most had a couple of those guys back in the day yeah could smell it on a Friday like oh yeah I won't be seeing you on Monday will I yeah you always know who those people are like we can name them all right now I can do serenade I could go five five right now you're like Kendrick you you're boned me a couple times Kendrick actually no strike that I don't like that phrases get the quote get the quote panel ready again wouldn't let us know now it seems like whenever you just start talking about sporting goods the phrasing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that whole space Richards department store look we're all three guys I think that generally show up to work right like you expect but I'm just telling you now at this stage of the game with me nobody ever like gave a fuck if you took a sick day every now and then I think maybe missing shows I don't know did I miss to ever like because I'm just not feeling well especially when you're the one that's on the air to like if you're just that banged up and sick it's like oh why is it rough this burger you know what I mean like nobody even really necessarily you'd love to be that guy I'd be like I never ever ever missed a show I never ever called the sick it's like well I what about 99.5% of the shows I showed up for the problem is is that there is that person out there that that draft Dodger when it comes to vacation the fucking sick days like I think there was somebody that we worked with that used to then just like counted all of their sick days all their personal personal days and then vacation days it was just this bomb of time right right and it's not to it map wizard yeah like I get I get this many vacation days and then you can you're allowed by corporate to have this many personal days and nobody fucking takes them except there's that person that's like oh that's just nine more days of vacation to lie he's gonna be sick right and guess what happens like you can be that person and you're kind of gonna you're probably gonna get away with it longer than you want to maybe there's a little bit resentment to sorority that means usually somebody else is always bailing you out the entire time we are talking about with this one email right your sick there's a work from home culture already in this place it's cool that you have these Midwestern values you sound like you've got a fucking sick frame on you you're running faster and faster all the time you missing a Thursday because they want you to miss the Thursday that's not gonna change anything it's not going to change anything and you're gonna wish that you were convinced of this at an earlier age so I'm not telling the world I'm not telling the younger generation out there take more sick days you already know who you are like you're either that person that is pushing the limits everywhere and maybe you get away with it maybe it don't but don't bitch to anybody else when the layouts happen and you get let go of because you know that person's always like oh I can't believe they let me go it's like mother fucker you want to sit down for five minutes and talk about why you're gone because it's really easy to figure out why you're not going to be keeping your job when the other people are but I don't know that a hundred percent attendance person is ever appreciated the way that you think you are it's true I think you're right for me it was always like a personal thing too like I just didn't like being that guy and I was I love it babe why why do you think I love you guys team fucking attendance when I think growing up I think I told this before but like my parents like you would I don't basically I could not I could not take a sick day home from school you oh yeah I got like that's I'd have to be actively puking yeah and they'd still be like yeah I just like kind of go on get on the bus and if you don't feel well school yeah then call me you know you know yeah yeah exactly so I don't maybe that just like has you know permeated through the rest of my obviously my work life but yeah I you know I remember being hyped up to get out the door I remember getting like hyped up to be like you can do this oh man this is not what's this isn't how you're supposed to do it meanwhile if the other kids parents knew that they were sending like a flu ridden get to school you know they'd be doing the same thing with this guy's office workers are doing anyway I just remember getting that like pep talk because she's like I can't miss work and so you have to figure this out man yeah you know I do think there's a correlation though between like the kids who who grew up with that sort of like environment at home like no you're just gonna have to tough it out and the kids who just like got to stay home whenever they wanted to and like you know maybe the parents had to talk about like talk to the administration about like the amount of days that they missed and they're they're they're drastically coming close to the one of not graduating I'm happy in the camp that I'm in yeah me too yeah I like I like us all right quick one here 6 2 1 9 you know current gym stats but training for half marathon all right goal is sub two hours we're gonna hook you up with this other guy not a question well I think it is though I feel a story has to be shared last night watching the national championship with my girlfriend's family I get along well with her dad especially since he only has daughters and appreciates having somebody around who's willing to discuss the finer details of the sea hawks run past ratio among other things I got one of those that's good a lot of points to score with that one that's what your father-in-law dynamic is only daughters you know here we go I'm here to fill avoid let's do it I'd love to fill that void one good as a good space yeah I'll be that guy one day I got two I have two daughters yeah back to the story during the game when the cameraman flashed over to one of the use more famous current students if you know you know all right do we do we find out that that was actually not her and it was a different student I'll tell you right now sports shows seem to have been doing a great job talking about college women in the past so I don't know I don't think I think it was her I don't think there was there any debate about that I think some others think yeah all right let's just say we couldn't put that bed in the parlay let's put it that way my wife is about that last night how that was this and I was like oh man she's like she what what's her deal I was like uh you know she's just like a you know she's an actress internet famous things yeah she does some things and she's like you mean porn it's like yeah yep I do but now we don't even know all right so they show her on TV her dad and I glanced each other from the opposite end of the couch and I realized he knew my girlfriend asked what was up and I claim surprise over the refs call guess I have two questions nice did I avail myself there girlfriend didn't ask any further how do I make sure this isn't weird with my girlfriend's dad never never discuss it for him to know right yeah like you you should feel like you have the upper hand here I think in a way never discuss it but the one thing I'm wondering if the jig is up here is why did she randomly ask what's up just like that we're gonna have each other yeah did you did you make the air last I want to know like notebook they were locked in on each other right I mean how's your poker face obviously it sounds like somebody's isn't good and you guys are both looking at each other I'd wonder if she if you guys made it obvious or she knew and she she looked at you to see if you knew that's a question it's not like it's all right were you were you guys being hot about it or did she know and she's actually just checking to see if what your search history is like I think you're fine here yeah you you never talk to your dad about it you're fine I mean I don't know what the look is you know because it's just been like wow you know so it's sort of weird that then you would connect on it but if it's this other further other stand further understanding yeah I think you're fine my guess is this one of those things like both of you don't want to talk about it so it won't be talked about how would you even start that does it say he's like hey we got to talk about that thing the other night then that's that there's no way that's gonna happen no what are you gonna do we're like I should run away hey you you just you get five I want to ask you to get third quarter right we'll follow up with attention in the air there hey wait do you remember though that reminds remember when we had me a cleaf on we did we did on the ESPN right here she was such a big Danny cannell fan she was like a big Florida state fan and yeah god she was terrible but I think she was just like so hyped up to talk to Danny because she just started you know she was a big four state fan growing up or whatever and so you we back in the day like you'd send the pre-show email of like with the time for all the gas and it would be like a big distribution list the amount of dudes that came into the control room to be like just passing by what's up what's going on 130 Eastern and just like a big little smirk on their face like oh you know all right okay everybody knows and I will never forget that there were I mean people that I just did not speak to on that way coming in being just you know just saying something about it and people know dudes know you know do we get shit for that or did they understand that it was like she was a huge fan of Danny because of the Florida state thing and nobody's telling me it was a totally normal interview it was kind of straight forward but you're right she was like so hyped that yeah nobody was like hey that's that scene you know when you were no we got you there was it wasn't that it wasn't about that it was basically just like her kind of like fan-girling over Danny for a while and I I I remember correctly like she like it was it was a batter it was a really bad interview we should have again redemption now I think we should I don't know we should know if you've seen her content lately but wow so do you have you done have I no she's a lot of work space now right or she did she pivot from sports I remember she was like yeah I think she's just trying to be relevant you know I don't know wow and a different really let her have it yeah well you know he's got the mind of her producer I'll leave it can't turn it off I don't want to turn it off yeah yeah because there was another person that we worked with I'm I'm kind of kidding here because I was gonna say like hey take it easy because there was like somebody else that we worked with it was like well I'm kind of friends with her so I'm just curious how this goes like near you're not you're not friends with her you're not friends with her this guy was famous for doing it all the time hey well you know it's tough for me because like I kind of know both people like enough to care the way you're presenting this right now because I don't think you do all right that I'll do for the show really long one but you know what we're releasing it on Thursday so you have all Thursday Friday with us which is really kind of the strategy behind what we're doing on these Fridays because before we were launching these things and they were probably getting to the East Coast at like six o'clock p.m. on a Friday which I imagine at that point you get shit to do so that's why we release these on Thursday afternoon so thanks to Tom Kevin Kyle Seroody the Ryan Rissolo show bar still sports