Pardon My Take

Paul Bissonnette Talking Stanley Cup Playoffs, Sixers Get Swept By The Knicks, NBA Draft Lottery, Aliens Are Back And More

151 min
May 11, 202620 days ago
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Summary

Paul Bissonette joins to discuss NHL playoffs drama including his fallout with the Maple Leafs organization over new GM John Chayka, the Hurricanes' dominant playoff run, and various first-round series updates. The show also covers NBA playoffs with the Knicks sweeping the 76ers, the draft lottery with Washington getting the #1 pick, and ongoing playoff analysis across multiple sports.

Insights
  • Organizational loyalty and leadership character matter more than analytics alone—the Maple Leafs' hiring of John Chayka despite his controversial history demonstrates how corporate decisions can alienate fan bases and players
  • Depth and system-based team construction (like Carolina's approach) can compete with star-laden rosters when execution and culture are prioritized
  • The NHL's compressed playoff schedule and injury management creates different competitive dynamics than NBA, where players like Anthony Edwards perform at elite levels despite significant injuries
  • Geographic and economic factors (Northern Jersey wealth vs Philadelphia) directly impact playoff attendance and home-court advantage in ways teams cannot control
  • Media narratives and reporter questions can shape public perception of organizational credibility faster than on-court performance
Trends
Analytics-first management without strong interpersonal leadership and institutional knowledge is failing in professional sportsCanadian teams and markets showing renewed competitive strength and fan engagement in NHL playoffsCoaching stability and culture-setting (Rod Brindamour, Bill Laimbeer) emerging as differentiator in playoff successStar players increasingly willing to leave established franchises for better organizational situations and playoff opportunitiesDepth scoring and role-player consistency outperforming traditional superstar-dependent models in current playoff environmentYounger players (Wembanyama, Anthony Edwards, Quinn Hughes) performing at historic levels despite injuries, changing expectations for rookie/young player contributionsGeographic arbitrage in sports fandom—wealthier adjacent markets (NYC/NJ) dominating attendance in rival cities' playoff gamesOrganizational transparency and media handling becoming competitive advantage in player recruitment and fan retention
Topics
NHL Playoff Performance and Series AnalysisOrganizational Leadership and GM Decision-MakingPlayer Loyalty and Free Agency DynamicsAnalytics vs. Traditional Scouting in Sports ManagementCoaching Impact on Team Culture and PerformanceInjury Management in Playoff CompetitionNBA Playoff Sweep Dynamics and Home-Court AdvantageDraft Lottery Strategy and Team RebuildingMedia Relations and Organizational CredibilityInternational Player Performance (Olympics Impact)Depth Scoring vs. Superstar-Dependent ModelsGeographic Factors in Sports FandomYoung Player Development and ExpectationsPlayoff Intensity and Performance MetricsSports Sponsorship and Commercialization Trends
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People
Paul Bissonette
Guest discussing NHL playoffs, Maple Leafs organization drama, and his departure from Arizona Coyotes
John Chayka
Newly hired Leafs GM whose controversial Arizona Coyotes history prompted Bissonette's public criticism
Shane Doan
Respected veteran and organizational leader allegedly mistreated by Chayka during Arizona tenure
Rod Brindamour
Praised for culture-setting leadership and developing team depth despite lack of superstar players
Jalen Brunson
Led Knicks to sweep of 76ers with dominant playoff performance and efficient scoring
Anthony Edwards
Scored 36 points on injured leg in Game 4 vs Spurs, demonstrating elite performance under adversity
Victor Wembanyama
Rookie ejected for flagrant foul in Game 4, showing both dominance and learning curve in playoffs
Mitch Marner
Traded from Leafs, now performing at elite level in playoffs with more goals than entire Leafs tenure
Rob Gronkowski
Made controversial on-air comment about Bissonette's dating habits during Sabres playoff coverage
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Uses unconventional recovery methods including scuba gear swimming for zone-two cardio training
Gavin Mackenna
Expected #1 overall draft pick by Leafs after lottery win, touted as future franchise cornerstone
Macklin Celebrini
Second overall pick, dominant 20-year-old with 50+ point lead over teammates, compared to Sidney Crosby
Quotes
"I have no ill will towards this John Chayka other than the fact that he stabbed my buddy in the back"
Paul Bissonette~1:15:00
"The Knicks are so good. Jalen Brunson is just a guy at basketball. The 76ers are also terrible at basketball."
Memes (Zach)~0:15:00
"If you're a fan of sport you have to be in love with the Carolina Hurricanes and their story"
Paul Bissonette~1:45:00
"Anthony Edwards dropped 36 on one leg and just will not let the Timberwolves lose this game"
Big Cat~2:30:00
"The NHL is theater and it's so cool to see because the players reciprocate the energies and the energy of the fans"
Paul Bissonette~1:20:00
Full Transcript
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We have our good friend Paul Bissinette on to talk some hockey NHL playoffs. Also, what's going on with the Maple Leafs because he is out on them and then they immediately got the first pick right after. Mark of a great franchise. He's also getting trashed by Gronk live on air. We'll get to the bottom of that as well. We have NBA playoffs. The Knicks sweep the Sixers. The Lakers are on life support. We're going to talk spurs, Timberalls after biz because the game is going on right now. We got NBA draft lottery. We have Who's Back of the Week, a pack show for you and it's all brought to you by our friends at Microsoft. Before we get into more chaos, we got to tell you about something that helps people focus on what's most important. Microsoft 365 copilot. What if you could add an AI assistant to your work without leaving your workflow, built into Microsoft Word, Excel and Outlook. Copilot works where you work, helping you do more in the apps you already use in Word. Copilot helps turn scattered notes into a first draft in Excel. It generates insights from your data and an Outlook. It cuts through the noise to get you up to speed faster. The apps you know, go further with Copilot. Learn more at m365copilot.com slash work. Okay, let's go. Welcome to Part of My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours today is Monday, May 11th. Max. Oh, he's getting up. He's getting up. Max, sit down. Sit down, dude. Sit down. No, sit down. Sit down. Sit down. Wait a second. We get water's not going anywhere. Sit down, Max. Listen, soggy stars can wait. Max, why are you dry, Max? No, Max. Stay, stay. Max. He's gone. He's gone. Oh, man. All right, he's going to be wet. Let's talk about memes. Zach, where'd Zach go? Zach, you don't have to go. I think Zach's filming it. Zach's filming him. Memes, congratulations. Incredible sweep. That was an absolute destruction of the Philadelphia 76ers. You walked into their trap. You took over their trap to quote Kirk Cousins. It was so loud. It was so loud. I had the game on and, you know, the nicks were up by 20 almost instantly. And it felt like like if you weren't looking at the screen when something was happening, you thought maybe the sixers were coming back. No, it was the nicks just hitting more and more threes because that's how many nicks fans were in Philadelphia over the weekend, completely dominating. They have money. They got jobs. Memes. Congratulations. Your team is absolutely rolling. Thank you very much. This is probably the best New York team I've ever seen in my entire life. Yankees won a World Series. Sorry, of my team. Giants won a couple. Jalen brought this so good. Memes were really good until like mid-September for a couple years. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't know what's the name of the line? What's the name of the MLS? Red Bulls. Yeah. Did the Red Bulls win one? No, the other one did. The one that you don't require. Oh, but New York Liberty. You love the Liberty. Oh, yeah, Liberty. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe second pass. All right. So keep going. Sorry. No, it's okay. I mean, the nicks are so good. Jalen Brunson is just a guy at basketball. The 76ers are also terrible at basketball. That was a big part of this, but they got the job done and the team's just clicking right now. No, are you a little bit worried that you guys have played your best basketball? Because you're just dominant. And it's kind of a compliment that I'm even asking that because right now I would say that the nicks are a threat to win the NBA championship. But are you worried that it can't get any better? No, I'm going to say no because that was a storyline last series against the Oxet. They peaked too early, but they just keep on peaking. Yeah, they are. I mean, that was today was, it was just never even close. It was over like at the jump. Jalen Brunson has been phenomenal. Jalen Brunson only had to play. What do you end up playing like 30 minutes, even less, I think he didn't even have to play 28 minutes. Carl and Anthony Towns was incredible this series. I saw the stat about like if you're someone, you know, Tibbs is a very good coach, but it does feel like the nicks have finally figured out a way to unlock Kat in terms of being a guy who can facilitate offense, the high post, you know, his assist numbers have been off the charts. The stat was from Friday night after Friday night's game. He had more than double the assists than he had the entire playoff run last year, 52 to 24, in half as many games and 14 less turnovers. And I think today he had another 10 assist games. So 64 assists. He's been awesome. The whole team. I mean, you also had OG get hurt and then not need him and he gets full rest, which is huge. It's just everything's going well for you right now, memes and Zach. Congratulations, Zach. You went up to film max, but we want to say congrats to you as well. Thank you, sir. You guys were 100% correct, right? Like from the, from the second that the Celtics lost and we're celebrating the Philadelphia Super Bowl, you guys just under your breath immediately were like, we're going to kick the dog shit out of this team. Yeah. And you guys are right. So you called it. You guys know ball. Now we're going to get into the rest versus rest debate too. Because it feels like the other series is mid off. You guys are going to have maximum rest time. I think like big cat said for OG, that's going to be good. That's going to be good for him to recover. But you guys are going to have a lot of time to recover. So are you, you're in favor of rest? I'm in favor of rest just because the difference between last year's team and this year's team. Last year's team, we had five guys in the top 20 minutes played and now we only have one guy in the top 20 minutes played last of this regular season. So they benefit off of resting and they just look fast. And when they're fully rested, they just go nuclear for three. Yeah. I mean, we also should mention Deuce McBride, what a performance from him, seven for nine for three. He just couldn't miss. He absolutely couldn't miss. And yeah, it was the most competitive game in this entire series was game two when it beat didn't play. Yeah. That was it. That's kind of crazy. It feels like that was the series right there. Mitchell Robinson also didn't play that. Yes, that's true. And he really is a true x factor because when they are missing threes, he just gets every single offense a rebound and he just gets dishes it back out. Shout out Mitchell Robinson too. I just love that Hacka Shaq is like still alive and well. It's just great. I don't know why there's something about it. I know that some people will be like, that's not basketball. This is lame. I like that like at some point in the third quarter, we're just going to do some free throws. But we're just going to fucking get to the free throw line and we're just going to watch a big man shoot some free throws. But when he goes like 50 50 from the line, if he hits like the first half of it, the crowd goes nuts. Yeah. It's like, OK, this is a good trip. The strategy didn't work this time. Yeah. Max, you came back in, you look to be pretty wet wet wet as fuck. Very wet. Very wet. Tell me about how wet you are. I meant I tried to make sure that most of my body got wet under there because it that was a losing that deserve to be as wet as wet could be. Yeah. Max, have you had because I think everyone does this where if they go on a great trip, they think about like on Friday night, I was I was laying in bed and I was like, I was at the I was at the sphere a week ago right now. Like just so much so much mushrooms in my skull, just having the time of my life. And then like Saturday, I was out to dinner with my wife. I was like, we were sitting in a hotel suite just getting twisted, teed up and having a great time. And then right now, we would have been recording the podcast in Vegas and different pod. It was a different pod. I don't think I don't think it could be faster that this you went. Well, no, because no, it couldn't correct. It couldn't have been. No, I know. But I just like how fast and how severe it was. Yeah, it was from last weekend to right now. Yes, factual. It could not have gone any faster. Okay. Well, no, you guys could have there were four games scheduled in between. Okay, I see the tenor of this. Okay, wait, wait, but you're you were close games. That was a stupid thing for you to say. Yeah, it wouldn't have felt as fat. It didn't. No, it would have been the it would have been no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it would have been we would be doing the same thing right now. Today's game felt like that's been doing it. It did seem like Big Cat was just you're agreeing with Big Cat, but you're doing it. He's mad. He's mad about some. I'm just it's not some hand. It's like it almost felt like it could have gone faster. And that is correct. It could not have gone. Okay, so in conclusion, Max, you're agreeing with Big Cat. Yeah, correct. Okay, this has all been a long agreeing. Correct. Agreed. Okay, I agree. I agree. I agree with you. Max, do you do you think back to last last weekend and be like, I kind of regret spiking the football in Hank's face? Last weekend, we won the game. This weekend, we lost the game. And it was it feels like last weekend was like two seconds. Oh, how fast it was. I mean, it was an ask. I actually feel like it feels like forever ago. That's incorrect. It actually was actually seven days. It actually could have been any less. Yeah. Yeah. Forever is a lot longer than seven days. Correct. Yeah. I'm sure like after, you know, on Monday or Sunday, like the Delente Brothers group chat was firing, like was there anything going on in this weekend? Oh, yeah. I was in a fight with my brother on on Friday night because he I just kept saying this. This Sixers team that we saw this week is what we expected go in the last year. They pulled John Williams back. I just kept saying that I was like, this isn't a good team. They're not a good basketball team. I don't know what happened in the Celtic series. But this is who we thought they were going in going into the playoffs. I didn't want to make the playoffs because I didn't want to watch this iteration of the Sixers. This team is bad. The only thing that surprised me in this series is Tyrese Maxey was horrendous. Like I expected everything else of like everything of, you know, Joel and B doing like Friday, Joel was a joke. Like I'm willing to admit he was a fucking joke on he was playing the game of basketball on Friday. But then I mean then to PFT. Yes. Yeah, Max. PFT commentary. I had a question for you regarding this this season as a whole. Would you consider this season to be a success? No, it was not a success. Why do you ask people are people are people are pulling that because they asked you will be that after the game. Here's his quote. Lost, you know, and I know that's not the right mentality to have. But you know, for me, this was a success. I came into this year not knowing where I was going to be. You know, I was going to play if I was even going to play based on how the new world's the last, you know, the last few years and you know, I came in. It's his kid that's up on his lap. And I feel like that's the please don't ask me questions kid. Okay, interesting. So he said he said game one. You asked me a question I would like to answer. Yep. You you you ask the question and then you're like, to be fair, in game one, the entire internet said that Joel and B will never play basketball again. Like we ever ever play competitive like competitive basketball in game one, in game one of the regular season. If you if you go back and watch that game, that is he could not move. He could not move. And everyone said that we'll never see any competitive version of Joel and beat again. And to his defense, he did get back to a sense of he was like a difference maker in a playoff series. He was so to him, like I get what he is saying that when going into this season, he thought that he'll never be a competitive basketball player again. And then he got to a point that now he is I understood because as a team, as a team, I don't think that he would say that this this was a success. Because he said for me, which means for me personally, this season was a success for his health. I am okay with that answer. Big Cat. Josh Hart, you want me to want to get into that one? It's filled up. That's not what I was gonna ask. I was gonna ask that. I was gonna ask, can you please comment on the quote? I used to think Philly was a sportsman. I don't know if it is anymore. Okay, so yeah, I can just run your guys play. I like know what we're doing here. I can just run your playbook. Okay. Uh, it is a playbook. We're just talking about the game. We're talking about the Phillies broke. What? He's saying Philly doesn't have money. Oh, yes. By the way, I have a question for Hank, because I thought he said the Phillies Max, I think you need a little time out with how hot you came in this. I just know what he's doing. Hank, Hank, Hank, it was a nice day today. Why you wearing such a heavy garment? It was a little chilly. That's fair. That's fair. That's a little chilly. That's a respect. I can tip my cap to that play. That's a podcast. I can tip my cap to that. Hank is wearing his death sweatshirt, which he wears every time Philly loses in anything. This is a hater sweatshirt. Did you bring that sweatshirt to Vegas? No, no, no. I genuinely just, you know, I was gone. I literally dropped myself off today and like didn't have a lot of clean clothes. I just threw this on. Yeah. I should have picked up on that. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. I thought I knew all the plays didn't know that play. There you go. You play. Tip my cap. Tip my cap to Hank. God, I should have known that play. Yeah, I should have known that play. That's on me. Okay. Josh Hart. I think it's fair to say that after today, it's, it's, you can question whether Philadelphia is a basketball town. There can't be 70% Nick's fans in the building and you say that we're a basketball town. It was loud. It was a Nick's home game. Yeah. And the players have every right to be angry. That Tyrese Max, he said that he's like it. It exact quote was like, it just sucks. It does. He's like, it's suck. Hold on. I'll get his actual quote, but it pretty much was that. Yeah. He said it absolutely sucks. If I'm being honest, it just sucks. That's really all I can say about it, man. It's hard. It's definitely difficult. It's only way one way to put a stop to it and it's we have to go out there and win these games. Yeah. I mean, I don't even know if they play in the playoffs anytime. It's just like, you just give up. It's just the Nick. But yeah, Northern Jersey is basically a Philly suburb and Northern Jersey has a population that is bigger than the Philadelphia area and Northern Jersey has more money than the Philadelphia area. Like it is halfway in between Philadelphia and New York city. So those people are going to buy those tickets, especially when it's a Nick's team that every Nick's fan has like real championship hopes. And right now the Sixers were down 3-0. Everyone in the world knew that the Sixers weren't going to win this series. Everyone who's a Nick's fan is like, this could be an all, no, going into today. I'm saying today. I'm saying today. Down three because Friday was bad, but it wasn't that bad. Like today was really, today was really, really bad. The game was over. I mean, again, it was no, I'm saying as like a, I'm saying as a fan base thing. What about South Jersey? Why doesn't South Jersey get their act together? South, South Jersey is where's Cherry Hill? Yeah, no, but they got to buy more tickets. South Jersey is a suburb of Philly, not a suburb of New York City. I know. So they need to buy the tickets. Right. You guys have more money. New York City has more money. Yes. Yeah. New York City shocking. Yes. Yes. Pink hat. Okay. Do you, do you know what I'm going to say? Go, go. Do you know what I'm going to say? Do you know what I'm going to say? You don't know what I'm going to say. Sure. You said, you know my whole playbook. You say, you know, a whole playbook on this side of the booth. Okay. Congrats. Okay. Zach, do you have any stats for us? I've got a couple of quotes that were said in this series and I was curious thoughts on the quotes and some information regarding my quotes. This is a member of the fact. Do some research. Remember if you didn't, did you remember if this podcast did say who's going to guard Tyrese Maxey regarding the next six or six. I already addressed Tyrese Maxey was really bad. Just a quote. I've already addressed who was going to guard him. The Cal bridges was very good against Tyrese Maxey. Next. The first three games of this series he averaged close personal friend of mine. That's 10 fewer than his regular season average. And also he did show a lot of heart and game to played 47 minutes. He also turned over the ball roughly every seven minutes of those minutes. Okay. I've got another quote from member of this podcast. Also, I was wasted during this podcast and memes even said himself that he doesn't hold me accountable for anything I said during that show. I'm not Jackie. But yeah, this is the one who put Zach up to this. I didn't put me you said that you said you said that you don't hold me accountable for anything. I'm going to be quotes here. I have this is going to be the first time hearing of these I texted memes at like three o'clock today. And I was like, Hey, make sure you got like you're ready with the quotes that Max said to you before he's like, Oh, I already put Zach onto it. I had Zach do it because I didn't I don't want to do it because memes isn't holding credit. Good job memes. Good guy. Good guy memes. That's just good producing way to go Connor memes. Also, I don't think you continue. Okay. I don't think you've done more memes ever than you than you have today. It was a onslaught of me. There were some really good ones. There were there were there were good ones. I mean, some of them were last year Celtics. Sorry. Yeah. All right, memes. I put his face on Bonnie blue. All right, memes. I mean, Zach, Zach answer that would be how many can I just how many do we got? Okay, I can prepare my not like a work. I would like to know the end of the matter. Yeah, it could be infinity. No, no, no, that's illegal. Don't take that from Zach. Take it back. Come on. Who's grip sweaty hands? All right. Come on, Zach. All right. Another member of this podcast did say a different member. You said another member. So there must be somebody else. I get grumber. You're doing great. This is bad. Come on, Max. All right, dude. I like I'll just yes, just keep just keep dunking on me. That's fine. I believe a member of this podcast said, Nick's couldn't play cat this series. Total through four games, which would be the fastest they could have won the series. 61 points, 28 rebounds, 27 assists and seven blocks. He was very good. I was wrong. I'll just keep saying I was wrong, but we can we can continue. You were dead sober when you said that. Yeah, you were dead sober when you said that. No, you said that before the series. I said that to him when we were out at a club. No, you said that you said that before Game 7, before we left Vegas. Before we left Vegas, he's gonna be a map. Yeah, you're like there's no way you could play cat in this series. Well, that yeah. And then he took a shot to his appendix in Game 1. But yes, okay, that did happen. Wait, he doesn't who who took a shot to their appendix? Joel and B took a shot. He doesn't have an appendix. Impossible. He's the only one that that's said we're doing semantics. He does not have an appendix. He took a shot to his midsection in Game 1. Yeah, yeah. To where his appendix used to be. Correct. Yeah. Which you can't you can't get hurt. You can't get hurt. You can't hurt something you don't have. True or false. Okay. If okay. If you get surgery, I'm going to punch you in. It's so hard for you to get surgery. I'm gonna just I mean, if you said it doesn't it doesn't hurt then I didn't say that. I said no, you said you can't hurt what you don't have. Yeah, you can't hurt what you don't have. Yeah. So yes, you couldn't listen. I hope I hope to God you have to get he wants you to get a testicle removed. So we just punch you in the balls. There's a reason Oscar Pastore is never torn in ACL. Okay, Max, you started the semantics battle. You said he took a shot to the appendix. He does not have an appendix. No, that is used. What that is you starting the semantics battle. You started the semantics battle when I said it couldn't have couldn't have happened faster. You're like, yeah, technically, yeah. Well, that was just dumb because it could have happened almost as dumb as saying he took a shot to the appendix when he doesn't have one. No, because mine was inferred what I was talking about. Yours just didn't make any sense. I think if anyone was listening and didn't know if someone woke up from a coma, they're like, Oh, next one. You're gonna be this is the stupidest thing ever. Zach, continue. Another member of this podcast also said six are starting lineup is the best in the east. I already took that one back. That means memes brought that up and I was I already I already said I didn't even remember saying yeah. Okay, which cannot be true because the next two win four games and six did win zero games. Okay. All right. And lastly, uh, listen, we're three and one when the starters are healthy. A quick update to that stat there now three and four when the stars are healthy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true. Doing the math. Yeah, he thought he might have been a little semantic Zach there because he had counted the Joe and B. Yeah, no, he did. There was a chance I was gonna get it. You're gonna get anti semantics. Yeah. Yeah. Max, I get a question for you. Max, when it comes to the future of the process in the future, the 76ers, where do you go from here? Good question. Thank you. We have two we have two young guys. VJ Edgecomb is 19 years old. Yeah. He didn't have a great series this this series, but he's 19. Tyrese Max, he's still 25 years old. We're getting off of two contracts this year. We'll see what what we can do. Or just gonna say the ages of our players. Yeah. Like, what do you think the path forward is because it feels like for a lot of the guys that are that have been part of this iteration of the sixers, I don't know if it's going to get any better. This might be the end of the line. PFT. Just just but in here. Andre German actually younger than you think. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Good point. Good point. So he's a piece. No, I mean, my point was that we have two guys that are still young and not one of them is in their prime. One of them isn't even you can't even say as close to his prime. He's 19 years old. Yeah. I remember hearing about Jason Tainan being 19 years old for 20 years. I don't recall that. So maybe we got one of those guys. He's 39 now. Yep. So yes, this was a what do you need to do to take the next step? What is the next step? We'll see. We'll see. I mean, I'm not I don't run this fucking organization. So I actually have a question for Hank. Yes. Hey, we're great. Happy by the way. I appreciate it looks love the league. Yeah. The association. What is what is it? You look like a security guard for where NBA has all the time. What are you talking about? He's got a little bit basketball on the side basketball on the side. This is what I do. I like to respect the NBA. You know me guys can't get a fit off. So I came on the show. We appreciate everything the NBA does everything around this time of year. They seem to be on the up and up like I just want to support them. It's good product. All I'm talking about is like the NHL playoffs this hockey that let's have some respect for the NBA. I'm Hank. I have a question for you. So I just pretend that you're you know in charge of taking over a franchise. Let's go like you're a GM a floating GM. Okay. Who would you rather be? Who would you rather be right now? The 76ers are the Washington Wizards. Gotta be the Wizards like the future. Yeah. Without a doubt the Wizards. Yeah. I mean you have you have an all NBA first teamer Anthony Davis. Trey Young has proven he can he can be a clutch player when big playoff games in hostile environments like Philadelphia. And then you have the number one pick like you you got a lot of room to build. Don't forget about Sar. Yeah. And you got Trey Johnson. He's a sniper. Yeah. All right. That's it. I have a question for you PFT. No question. Yeah. Would you rather where would you rather be a fan of the Washington Wizards or the Boston Celtics the team that lost to the Philadelphia 76ers just a week ago. That's a good question. Question. I mean if you lost good question if you lost the Sixers team you suck because the Sixers team is not very good. They're old. So yeah I think I think I'd say the Washington Wizards. I think I'd rather be a Wizards fan. All right. Good answer. Thank you. Hank. It's a wrong answer but that's fun. Obviously you should be a wizard fan. Okay. Well I mean I mean the Celtics are star players. No actually Jason Tatum I don't know if you saw the Instagram story. He posted a place I very much had Jalen Brown's back per usual to me to try to break him up. But again yeah I mean nothing new the Twitch stream 24 hours after all. If you have a if you have a who could have done this Jalen Brown. Who could have started this narrative for Jalen Brown. Yeah we're all looking for the guy. You literally just did the exact same thing I did with Joel and B of that it was a successful season from game one to now. What do you mean. That he got it was able to be healthy enough to compete. He wasn't even I mean game seven if he plays probably goes differently but that's that's just that's basketball. Joel and B also didn't play in that full series. That's I know that's that's you can't can't use those excuses. You just did. I'm just saying you literally we're talking about the future. We're talking about the future. I'm not looking at the fact that we lost to the Sixers this year. It's only we are a fully healthy team again. You guys be there in square. I'm saying for the future this team has proven they can win a championship. The Sixers has has this team. Jason that they can win a championship. Okay. Two best players and coach. Yes. And you best players and coach for the Sixers. Nothing. This team has won. They've made finals. They've made multiple conference finals and they've won an NBA championship. Joel and B hasn't gone out of the second round. This team. The star players have the star players and the coach. Yeah. Star players are great when you have seven other stars on the team. The core. So we all agree the Wizards. Every team has star players and a core. That's how teams are built. Max. Yeah. Your core was awesome. Hell of a core. Unfortunately that core is no longer there. But the wait. No. The core is there. Yeah. The core. The core. We all agree on the core. Every team has star players and a core. Is it the star players or is it the core. We have both. You said every team has star players and a core. Our role players are no longer there. So the role players are every team role players going in and out. The problem though is our star players and our core is still together. You're like a bad apple. You might have a rotten core. Right. That. Yeah. That's something you got to deal with internally. I'm going to keep that. Is there worms wiggling around in there. You never know. That's for Brad Stevens to decide. Okay. Okay. Hey Memes. Has Max anything nice to you? Has he congratulated you? Was he good sport? Oh. Max has been extremely nice. Yeah. I think he knew. Yeah. He knew also. Yes. I said I said it going into the first round. I said it during that series that I didn't believe it. It wasn't until game seven that I said a single positive thing about the six. True. And I was fucking wasted. And I was going off of like an all time high of an all time weekend and where it's my batter party of like explain the high. Huh. Explain the high. He's going off an all time high. I feel like it was it was a great weekend. He's excited. So I was. Yeah. I was. I was amped up. Max is like yeah. Ready to go. You're ready. All time high. He's ready to absorb any punch. He had that tight fucking loser. It's like actually laughable. It's actually laughable. The two guys on that desk are literally the two biggest losers of all time. Sorry. Top four picks. Yeah. Yeah. I remember doing that a billion times. Where is the process. Yeah. Vijay Edge comes 19 years old. So that's still the process is still alive. The process is the process until the process has been processed. I get another question. Wow. You guys really you and I share somebody in our lives. Josh Harris. Josh Harris. The city of Philadelphia seems to have turned on Josh Harris. And I think they believe that he's he did a good job with the commanders last year. Right. Well he doesn't play. He hasn't played the sport. Star players injured. We got we we got a brand new stadium. That's sick. Yeah. That's the best thing that he's done. Yeah. He's a huge accomplishment. Listen. It's hard to hang a banner for a new friend. I will. I will. A little getting new stadiums. Harder. You're also a loser. It's a hard thing to do. OK. But that's a lot of what I'm saying is like I'm hearing a lot of Sixers fans that that hate Josh Harris now and because they think that he cares only about the commanders not about the Sixers anymore. Do you feel that same way. I just think he's a bad owner who doesn't know how to build an organization. OK. So I'm happy. I'm happy that he's agree or disagree. With what he's a bad side. He's a bad owner that doesn't know how to build organizations. I think Max hit the nail. He's not a basketball guy. Yeah. Always know he says a bad owner that doesn't know how to build a bad basketball owner. He's a he's not a basketball. He just said bad owner. Yeah. I'll let PFT think whatever he wants to think. Bad bad basketball owner. I agree. That's not what he said. Anything else. Mm hmm. You have any questions. Yeah. Hank how are you feeling because this was I know that I don't want to talk about the exact time that this happened because I want to get back into it. You know time debate but it did happen quickly. It happened. It couldn't have happened quicker. Honestly. I was we were we're in LA and then I was in San Diego and I was out of wedding like I didn't I was excited for the memes and Max a little back and forth. If it was going to go to game seven that would have been to start to great week would have been great for the show. So like back in my wearing my producer Adam Michael this is good good for us good for the show. Nothing nothing. But I miss one show and I miss one show and the series was over. Yeah. I didn't get a chance to talk about the series once it just ended. Didn't get to see them you know going back and forth in the office. It was just it was just over and that that sucks for me. It sucks for the fans. It sucks for everyone. It sucks for him. Hey why don't we just let's just pretend that game five is Tuesday night and we'll just recap that. Yeah I'm down. OK. Because you did get robbed. But it is it is Zach and me it's exciting for them that it's they look like the best team in the NBA. They look unstoppable. I mean today no one was beating them. I don't think I don't think any like I would I would be shocked if this team doesn't know. Awesome. They have the ants riveting now. Now I know now Hank is just going on to he's just he's he's the grim reaper going through going through doors and he's like the sixes are dead. Let me just go try and kill the Knicks. No you do that way. No one's killing the Knicks. Yeah. No one no one is killing that next game. What do you think. Do you agree with what Hank is saying right now. I I I know what he's doing. But I love the sound of it. Yeah. So you're going to fall for it. Yeah. And if ever if everybody here wants to say more nice things about the Knicks I will listen. I mean who do you want. Do you want the pistons or the cabs. It doesn't matter. The pistons won the series. Cavs game went on the road. All right. So let's talk about that game real quick. That was Saturday was Cavs Pistons game three and we had essentially a Freaky Friday episode at the end of the game where Kate Cunningham I think at three straight turnovers and James Harden had three straight ice so ball everyone get out of the way buckets he went floater another two and then a three to seal the game and I'm happy for James Harden. He actually was asked after he's like how do you deal with all the chatter. He's like what chatter and I believe him. I don't think James Harden listens to anything. Now why would you. Yeah. Well be the point if you're James Harden like they no one's saying anything good about you. No you don't have it. There's not too many James Harden defenders out there. We are. We're officially of course again as strip club guys that we found out Zach you got to become the biggest James Harden guy confirmed already James Harden guy. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah we're going to defend James Harden. The guy seems like he knows how to have a great time. Right. So I'm going to be in that guy's corner and he was great down the end. But at the end of the game. I mean he was bad for most of the game but he's really really bad but then at the end yeah he kind of figured it out for the last few possessions. I'm happy for the Cavs. I don't I don't necessarily agree with memes that it's over though. I don't think that this series is over at all memes. The Cavs can't win on the road until now. That's sure that no they they have they haven't they lost every game in Toronto. But until now I'm saying like they could win on the road factually they could technically technically yeah I mean you would just want the Cavs because of home court. Yes. And I just want I mainly just want this series to go seven just kill each other. Did you I saw a very funny fan theory. I don't know if it's a theory or just I just never put it together. But there was like a someone was tweeting about Donovan Mitchell and they basically said Donovan Mitchell like should be way taller than he is and he just stopped growing because I don't know if you could. So he's he's six one. Yeah. What do you think his wingspan is seven feet. He's six 10 wingspan. What do you think his shoe size is no idea 17. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. He just stopped growing. Yeah. He should he should be taller his spine. Yeah. Yeah. His spine. He like six one. 17. Upside down. Yes. 17 size 17 shoes. Six one is pretty crazy. That is not. Yeah. And six 10 wingspan. I just like this theory that's like it's not his fault. If he has a bad game it's not his fault. He should have just been taller. Yeah. There's still time. Yeah. There could be still time. Yeah. I don't know. I was happy for James Harden. I do think this is like I think this series probably is going to go. I don't know. I mean like they're both not. They both have their flaws. Kate Cunningham is the best player in this series. And that was the difference in that game is that he for the first time in a few games he had like a poor ending to a game where that's that's usually when Kate Cunningham just kicks everyone's ass is like oh yeah I'm better than everyone in this series. He still had a triple double but it was those last few possessions which that's not the whole game. But if Kate Cunningham is just the best player at the end of a game then the Pistons should win. But I don't know. I just want more basketball at this point because we lost you know the Sixers. The Lakers Thunder series is the most non-competitive series. Yeah. It's trash except for the second halves. I would like I was still a little bit blown away every time Tobias Harris goes out there and has a good game and playoffs. He did. He's been playing well. Yeah. And Duncan Robinson has been like hitting threes which is you know it changes everything for the Pistons when he's when he's doing that. I just yeah I mean I would take the Pistons in this series but I'm down for James Harden to maybe get into a game six or seven. I want to see game seven James. Oh Max spin zone. Joe and Bede one and oh and game sevens this year. Great. OK. But Max it was nice. If you were to if it was a nice thing I just said about you if you're to rank the the best second round losses over the course of Joe L. and Bede's career where would this one go. I think this one probably be number one right because of the hangover. Well because of the yeah it was a successful season. Yep. And also because I mean he did have 24 points on perfect shooting midway through the third quarter right. Everyone knows that. Yeah. And it also because you beat the Celtics in the first round that's what I'm saying. I feel like this playoff second round loss from Joel and Bede is probably the best one of his career. I agree. I disagree. Oh what's better. He was very good in that rat in that. The playoffs where they lost to the Raptors. OK. So that's one. Can we get a ranking maybe. Yeah that's one. This is the answer to that. No. Hank can you fill out the rest of the fair answer. Hank will do it. Hank's going to get the rankings. But yeah I I I do want to see James Harden in like a big time. Yeah. Game six elimination game. That would just be fun. Yeah we want to see game seven James if Bob. Yeah big game James. Yeah. So the Lakers Thunder series. I mean we've talked about it but it's just the thunder are just so much better and I know that there's been complaining about the refs and all the stuff. It doesn't matter. There's none of it matters. Here. No. Oh you got the rings. Off the top of your head. What would you rank. So the worst. I mean the at the bottom is probably 20 22 against the heat. He didn't play in two games to the games he played and they won and two they lost. So that's kind of a nothing. OK. And then I mean it's it's tough. There's so many good ones. I think I would have to put this 2023 against Celtics. I was game seven. Then I would go this year against the Knicks. Then the Hawks the one who could forget that. That was that was the Ben Simmons Trey young. Yeah. Can't imagine blowing a three one lead. Then I know but the way that went. I can't imagine blowing a three one lead. But his his super service hurt. Can't imagine. And your super service pass up a layup to win the game. Then we'll have to go with 2019 Raptors Kawhi. Who could forget that iconic game seven in Joe Lombead's eye. The ball just hit off the rim went up. Can't imagine losing a game seven. And then it got to be number one 2017 against the Celtics confetti. Oh the confetti game. Yeah. That was crazy. Yeah. That was tough. That was tough. Good rankings. Great rankings. Some classics. Really good. Oh yeah. Great rankings. Yeah. The Lakers Sunday. I mean that what are we doing. It's over. It was over before they even tipped. The Lakers yet again had a half time lead. Good job. They've been very competitive in the first halves and then they just get smoked in the second. And they're just old. They're just old and slow and tired. And like the Thunder just have dudes for days. AJ Mitchell has been insane. He's getting paid nothing. And it's just the Thunder like the perfectly constructed roster. And I know people are upset about it. And I I'm I've chosen to just be like I'm going to enjoy the fact that they're just better at basketball than everyone. Do the Thunder also have like two lottery picks that don't play. Yeah. It's it's crazy. Topic. Yeah. I can't remember who the other one is. But yeah. They they it's it's not it's not how deep they are. And yeah they're going to steamroll the Lakers four games. And then I don't know. The playoffs don't start for the Thunder until the conference finals. Yeah. That's what we've said from the get go. Now the question is going to be we're going to have this this talk on Monday night. Is this LeBron James last game. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think it might be. No. No. You don't think so Max. He's he's 41. But he is a guy that's going when he retires he's going to let people know he's retired. Right. I thought so too until he started playing golf all the time. And now I think he's going to be like you know what this is kind of awesome. I'm just going to play golf. I think I think the golfing the golf bug might have convinced LeBron James to to forego another full year in the NBA. No he's been playing golf for years. Yeah. He's just spent time with his son. He can golf when he's on the road. He can he's still got another year where he can be one foot in one foot out. At least this is his last game for the Lakers. Oh I like that. He was just on the bench while everybody was talking. He was just staring at him. Yeah. When they were down when they were down 20s. Yeah they don't really. I mean the Lakers are kind of in a weird spot too because like Austin is another one where they're going to have to pay him a lot of money. I don't know. Yeah. No it hangs right. Yeah. You got to say the star player would you rather be the Lakers or the Wizards. Probably the Wizards. The problem with the Lakers are they're they're a good team because Luke is obviously a superstar but they're whatever you want to say the third fourth fifth you know if you want to throw the Timberalls in there. So let's say they're the fourth best team in the West. The difference between the Spurs and the Thunder and the Lakers is so vast. It's crazy. It doesn't matter. It's like you could make the argument like oh yeah we're competitive in the West. No you aren't. And you go into the playoffs. I think you would have said like the nuggets might be in that conversation but you can't say that anymore. No you can't say that after what happened. So yeah I think you know what the West the West might be gettable now. We were just talking about how like the West has been the dominant conference for the last what 25 years in the NBA. They've got two really good teams at the top and outside of that I just don't know. So gettable you mean by what do you mean by gettable by the East in the future like if I'm the East I'm thinking to myself like in the next five years we could take over the West like we're going to be the dominant. The problem is those two teams are so much better than anyone in the East currently constructed. I don't understand the Thunder just like they're just so perfectly constructed. It just there's nothing you can do about it. They're an all around great team. Yeah they're incredible and we're going to talk about the Timberalls Spurs game after biz because it's going on right now. Wemby ejected in the second quarter for a flagrant to which he had no idea what it was. Flagrant do he said what does that mean. Kiss kiss it like dude you're out. All right before we talk about some more stuff real quick from our friends at Jose Cuervo when Cuervo enters every moment just gets better. You find yourself in the center of the dance floor. 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Washington Wizards are officially on the clock the wizard back we're so back and that also means the Wizards are open for business because i'm seeing a lot of fan fiction about trading for the number one overall pick mostly centered around the idea that that uh Utah needs AJ to stay in the state that there's so many powerful people that love him in Utah that are like we're gonna do whatever it takes to keep him in so i did i i i have some ideas um i will be listening to some offers for that but i'm i'm just pumped i'm pumped for the wizards we've been the worst team maybe in sports in the last 50 years uh i believe it's been it was a 1978 was the last time we made a conference finals that's the longest in any any team in any sport we've been really really fucking bad for like the last 30 years it's really funny to say that out loud after the first 25 minutes of this show yeah yeah really bad like we've been a dog shit team we kind of puts it all yeah no the wizards have been objectively speaking funny not a not a team they haven't been a team i i say it all the time that they're the least consequential franchise in professional sports i think now that the Buffalo Sabres are doing some work in the playoffs it's probably just 100 percent the Washington Wizards until now the process worked i'm a big process guy we did the process we got two top four picks in the span of about three years um i want aj debanser what well if that dictates the process working yeah okay what was your question you said plenty of top three picks yeah the process worked okay yeah it's a success agreed okay we're in agreement then agreed yep we're on the same page yeah me so i i'm i'm very i'm optimistic i can't wait to get excited about a basketball team for what feels like the first time in my adult life um so there there've been like a couple years where the wizards have been good here and there they've been objectively awful for the last like i'd say seven seasons um but the thing is they like wasted four of those really shitty seasons because they weren't like trying to be really bad they weren't like doing the actual process they weren't making the the personnel moves behind the scenes to uh stock pile assets and to get pieces in place and now we got the guy from Oklahoma City running the show it's been cool to see a guy put a plan into place three years ago and then see it actually start to work and get results from it so have no idea what's going to happen with this team but um very excited i think aj debanser has to be the pick i think that's got to be the pick um i've seen you don't want to tip your hand dude yeah it's probably going to be aj i'm just got to be honest with you probably aj and um i'm i'm just pumped i'm excited for uh for the wizards to be somewhat relevant again and i i said it before the the draft lottery i'll say it now i think that uh play in or bust next year okay and if anthony davis stays healthy i think we might be like the sixth seed if he stays healthy yeah we might be like the sixth seed maybe the fifth seed next year um i do have one tweak to the draft lottery though it would be nice if you had to do the draft like 10 minutes after the lottery so like the gms show up you get the order yeah okay everyone go to your back room we're calling you back out in 10 minutes all the players are here all right go for it now you have to pick the rock the the good job by adam silver last year with the dalas situation everyone's like rigged this is the last year that we're gonna have the like true tanking because they're flattening the odds and all that stuff uh good job because he basically rewarded outside of the nets and the Pacers he rewarded the worst teams so got everyone back on like oh that worked because the wizards the jazz and grizzlies were were truly tanking pretty much the entire year um the bulls getting the fourth pick was so huge because that was they were they were slotted into the ninth they had a 20 chances to go up to the fourth it's a loaded draft they tank they did the dumb thing of only taking for half the year and it ended up working out because this is going to be awesome i want kail wilson so bad uh he's kind of the forgotten guy in this draft because he's gonna hurt in march so good and uh even if it's not that maybe dare you say koff i would just love that yeah loser i don't think don't think booze is gonna booze gotta go he's gotta go to the grizzlies he's gotta go to his dad played here boozer looks like a grizzly though yeah he does he looks like a grizzly i'll say this i don't i wouldn't be about the pictures i have a set about like course i'd as a kid i won't be upset about boozer his dad in the bulls jersey now he's in a bulls jersey i do think boozer has the highest floor lowest ceiling that's what i've been saying yeah yeah he's bus proof yeah i don't think he's gonna be like some of these like kail wilson could be a superstar a jade bands could be a superstar darin peterson if he just stops taking creatine could be a super right if boozer has a career like his dad objectively speaking that's gonna be an awesome career yeah but i think that that's kind of his ceiling yeah of what he's going to be he's a super smart player i just don't think he's he's like exceptionally explosive either way it's awesome for the bulls because the bulls had like it's been just absolute shit and and nothing to look forward to and now we'll get at least a guy that i'm gonna be very excited about and i did see the take i love whenever this take comes out i think it was uh jeff goodman who's a king of bad takes who's like i talked to some league executives and being the third or fourth pick actually is where everyone wants to be because you get the decision taken out of your hands i still think you'd want to have number one you'd rather have the first pick yeah but but then if you're like like some gm's gonna they're gonna have to figure out if they want to take a jay or darin peterson if you're the third or fourth pick you just take the other guy and it's good it's a it's a loser take and it's something that i would actually agree with if i was a gm but that's why you don't want me as a gm running your team yeah it's like i can blame everybody else but myself for how i would want the one number one pick is then i take kail wilson there you go yeah and you dictate the terms on it um big losers though pacers yeah that was brutal they uh had to stay in the top four they have the the the season obviously going to the nba finals having tyries halbert and get hurt in game seven a season where they were tanking but it's also injury so it was like hey we'll have a bad season and then they make that trade for zubac and they lose their pick at slotting at five the clippers get the fifth pick crazy crazy spin of events and also the nets the nets kind of they they were a tank commander they were just tanking so hard yeah i did end up with the six pick i did like how the pacers gm was like i took a shot i know i knew it was like i'm sorry i knew it was gonna be 50 50 gamble um but we got a good center i i had to take a gamble on it and it almost paid off yeah so like i i appreciate the honesty from i think pacers fans have to agree but again the pacers they're the only team in the nba that's never had the number one overall pick and never had a number one overall pick ever play for them in the history of the franchise which is kind of crazy they've never had the number one pick and traded it they've never traded for it then traded again and they've just never touched the number one pick the entire franchise uh fun fact the wizards can you guess the last time the wizards had 50 wins mm 2007 no max 2008 no it was uh 1978 1978 i thought arena you're a loser max yeah you're a loser dude but also i'm pumped i'm i can't i can't stress enough how excited i i got to see some fun basketball in the john wall era they got cut short because he like fell down in his house and tours achilles i got to see some fun basketball in the gilbert arenas era they got cut short because they tried to shoot each other um and i got to see some fun basketball in the michael jordan era that got cut short because michael jordan was old and washed but i've i've never had like this much optimism with like a young core that's getting built up together i'm pumped i'm very gave us isn't very young it true but if healthy yeah if if healthy the amount of games that he's missed he's played a relatively low amount of games that's sure he's young yeah he also just has the number one pick written all over him because he was the number one pick right and then he the pelicans traded him got the number one pick the mavericks traded for him got the number one pick the wizards traded for him got the number one pick wherever he goes number one picks just follow i do have a trade offer for the for utah for the state of utah i will trade you the number one pick which i'm assuming you'll use to take uh a j debanza okay in exchange i would like the second pick i would like ace bailey i would like the zameth the zamboni that your hockey team has and then i will give you my ride better go with that you get the zameth yeah it can be it can be and then uh dc will send mit romney back to utah so you'll take on that contract okay and that's my offer let me know if you accept the terms you have 24 hours we expect i think it's fair danie angie no where we are danie in this office danie angie you know danie angie he probably would try to get the first pick even if it wasn't a guy from utah that was there he just loves to make deals yeah danie you found i'm sim pateco we like we both like to make deals yeah give me a call give him a call okay anything else before we do who's back of the week did you guys see the hank your ufc evaluation yeah i watched uh the first two fights before i went to bed oh you did yeah you are a ufc expert and then uh i woke up and saw that's that's trickle one yeah what do you think about stricklin i don't know i i don't love he's very violent the dagestan wrestling i like it when someone else wins yeah better for the sport of ufc i was just riding him in the first round i mean we saw that was like one of the fight that we saw where it's like it's not as fun to watch so i think it's more exciting when but i i i saw a lot of the it's kind of crazy that stricklin basically was like yeah we were just doing a work like we're actually cool yeah they touched gloves before and they were talking so much shit before and then and he's like known for being you know super abrasive shit talker and then afterwards he's like yeah no i love him like we're boys good self fights easy a he said he's like no one knows who's in the ufc right now i have to sell fights i like when when when boxers and ufc fighters do that like my job is to sell fights i got you to care yeah his face looked fucked up after good fight though it's fun i think it was controversial i don't know it's hard to judge the the the wrestling yeah i think people thought maybe it was controversial i don't i know the chan trickling is just i think two i think he's got two of like the biggest underdog wins possibly he was he was a massive underdog in this fight so good for him okay let's do who's back of the week who's back of the week is brought to you by our friends at twisted tea we love twisted tea just think about those big moments like in vegas the sixers beating the celtix game seven we were having some twisted tea having having a great time that's an amazing moment for the sixers yep summer is right around the corner twisted tea is coming in clutch to turn our day drinking up a notch their new summer party pack has a brand new twisted tea twisted lemonade made with real lemons and five percent alcohol it's got that refreshing taste with a little kick no carbonation goes down smooth oh i'm gonna try this that's breaking to me that's 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releasing alien files and people will be like oh that's interesting i'm gonna listen to that because we want to know i did see i want aliens yeah what i i saw one thing i think you wait you're seeing you do want aliens i think aliens are pussies i disagree they're probably listening right now i got no problem saying it they can't do something about it they can't win on the road no they just like to just call these things out that could fuck you you do getting fucked by an alien would be kind of cool but wait we like what all we do is talk about aliens like oh they're gonna come blow up our earth don't do it then enough talk you don't mean that though enough talk what if they do well then i'll say hand up i fucked that i fucked that one up guys covid i messed that one up covid hand the virus they were talking to the the religious leaders and they were like hey just so you know um you might want to prepare everybody that that goes to your services because aliens just invented us and that's gonna come out soon huh which would be i don't think that that was a rumor that was going around i to be clear i don't think that aliens exist in the way that we think about them like little green men are like flying saucers or anything like that well the saucers did you see that do you see the jet yeah yeah but i i don't think that looks like a saucer i don't think that it's aliens though no little pussy boys do you i think it's our technology and and we like to act you don't think that they found the technology in the 50s and they've been slowly rolling out i think that we do something though i think that we have our own technology and then we talk about it being aliens and shit because then other countries are like oh damn they've got they've got alien technology we better spend a lot of money trying to find our own alien technology i all right here's my real take on aliens i think they exist i think it's tremendously egotistical of us to think that they're coming here the universe is so huge you think they're like oh yeah we gotta go get those guys they'll give a fuck about us they've been here maybe yeah but where's the actual proof everything just teases we go to la for one day and hanks a Scientologist already i do think aliens exist because the universe is so fucking big that it just has to but i don't think they're coming here i don't think it's little green men that are like getting into their spaceship with their death ray i think they might already want to be boys about it and like come and hang and you know like play like 18 with nicky smokes i'm cool with that but i i don't really care like we just freak out about these things this is where's proof i think they're in the ocean yeah in arctic yeah underneath i think i think they're underneath the ocean i heard Dante killed his set on saturday night absolutely obviously no that was per Dante yeah but no duh he said i crushed it i knew he would if he did a set it the fucking dam was crushed so wait what was the most explosive thing in the alien thing that that happened the one that i saw that was it was like the picture of like it looked like the jet but it was like alien spacecraft and there was a bunch of which i don't know if that's like the 50s or whatever it was like there was you know confirmed reports and like people a group of people back in the day that saw aliens they they took all the reports and then just like kept it hidden yeah all right i just there's also a story about an alien getting invited to the white house to like hang out with white eyes an hour i'm just sick it's kind of like the fc file where people just keep talking about it like just give us all everything just tell us everything that's the thing it's like i think the government is still just like they're slow playing it and there probably is more stuff that would freak people out that they're intentionally not showing us it's true we'd probably be freaked out i can handle it yeah i think i'd be the calmest dude ever i think they exist i'm i i'm i'm being honest when i say they there's other life forms somewhere out there what what's that we gotta respect aliens though yeah we gotta we gotta mend like this you think they're listening to this right now i feel like they pick up all sorts of airways i think they listen to everything dude imagine if we had just a shitload of alien downloads that would be sick they like twisted tea we gotta get them on yeah twi up imagine if aliens showed up and we showed them like a twisted tea an alcoholic beverage and they're like holy fuck this is awesome yeah and then they just forgot what they were gonna do i don't want to i don't waste it yeah i don't want to fight anymore got them to got them to a frat party yeah let's grill out we we would haze the fuck out of aliens they would not have a dude throw aliens in in a in a like a shitty iowa city basement that's wet with a with a handle of of cheap vodka they would know what to do no they would have no fucking idea what to do if they landed and they're like i want to talk to your leader who are we sending mincey speed mincey they would turn right around he pulls up his pants you can't you can't probe a man who's always keeping his pants up mincey just starts talking about the world series and poker they're like sorry we're out of here we're fucking out why it's very panic we're out okay good good who's back but i want more same it's really more my frustration i want more i want to see an alien mm-hmm i want to see p and v alien yeah i do clip that okay pft my who's back is the fiefel world cup oh because everybody was saying a couple weeks ago that uh fiefel is a corrupt organization blah blah blah they're going to charge people so much money that's 200 dollars to take the train you're so greedy blah blah blah blah a bunch of haters and then fiefel was like fine we'll give you some real we'll give you some civic pride and some some city spirit so they released a bunch of jerseys for the individual cities that are going to be hosting world cup games this summer uh for 400 dollars each you can buy a uh boston world fiefel world cup 2026 official uniform limited edition uh yeah fiefel does not give a fuck they are just they're running up the score right now they don't care how corrupt you say they are they don't care how greedy you say they're even openly saying like yeah we want to learn from americans in terms of how to commercialize every sport to its maximum potential because soccer has not yet begun to do that and so basically what they're saying is we are fully comfortable making this the worst world cup that you've ever seen listen if they do some memorabilia i've i've recently become a little bit of a memorabilia guy so if it's big enough i'll buy it i bought the boyzie uh the boyzie state blue turf i bought a piece of that i bought a get charged up 43 foot long banner from qualcomm i got the bill's trough i'm in the market have you seen these jerseys though these are kind of hot and the jerseys i i don't want jersey i put it like if they want to sell me like a giant soccer ball that's outside of one of the stadiums i'm in do you like the uh the massachusetts one Hank yeah the big-ass lobster the lobster one is probably the best if you had to pick one the seattle one's cool too jerseys for the cities yeah for the sake canada city is just nothing they actually pft those look like something you'd wear yeah you're you know what you know what fifa you know what get the whole city is my way i'm gonna have to get the whole set uh the boston one is the best that you're right the seattle one the canada city is just like people playing soccer i don't understand what about canada city that's that one is uh but yeah fifa's greed is 100% back and then also skipping steven ayer back because they had oh yeah they did first take on friday morning and it was it's like they never stopped doing it it was it took me right back to 2016 playing the hits there was a little tibio discussion just as a treat for for those of us are diehard skip fans uh they had skipped it was top 10 mba players of all time he had lebron at number nine genius which was just perfect genius uh like to put him at nine yeah that's just why he's so good at it because you could easily just keep him off the list but nine nine no he was that just didn't say it's the dak press got at 17 like nine nine nine is such a funny place like if he had him at three it's a non-topic there's some people who have lebron at three he had him at nine he made sure that he was ranked yeah but it was nine do we have his official top 10 list yeah it's right there jordan magic shack kareem tim duncan bill russell coby larry bird lebron at nine will to ten it's great such a good larry bird at number eight is is awesome the he said the eight players above them are all cold-blooded killers lebron james over many years has proven to be the most mentally fragile superstar i've ever closely observed still got it still got it it was it was great television still i'm gonna watch every time they put those two together yeah i mean it was the nine i'd laugh so hard at nine it's just the perfect perfect rank to just piss enough people off uh okay my who's back of the week is grit week because we're going on monday is the first day of grit week this next monday we're doing old school like we did the first two years week leading up to memorial day but i bring this up because i need the awl's help where are we sending submissions pmt bachelor party at gmail love that i'm t bachelor party gmail.com here's what we need and i'm not going to give too many details we could probably assume what this is going to be we are trying to find a ideally a construction site that would allow us to work for free labor for an hour or so in the greater jacksonville area if we can't find a construction site an awl who maybe has like a swing set they want built or something like a little little shed in the backyard we gotta do more than it we gotta do a full day yeah but like again i'm not gonna give away who we're might be doing this with but let's just say the boys want to get on a construction site smoke some cigs hang out but i think i think there's probably some legalities into just letting us on an actual construction site so it's most likely going to be an awl in the jacksonville area who would potentially who'd be willing to take monday off and let us come to your backyard and build something for you and when i say build something for you i mean we're going to try to start building it no promises that we get it built and you should probably have the thing that we're going to build correct otherwise we're going to show up with something to build and you might not like but someday you could say hey you see that swing set you see that shed you see that table mm-hmm uh pmt and blake portals built it yep not naming names maybe a barn do some amish barn raising again we're not we're not we're not agreeing to completing it we're agreeing to hanging out and trying to complete to doing it we're doing yeah we're gonna do it yeah and you also need to have the tools we're gonna do a build yeah and you also need to know how to use the tools mm-hmm but we're gonna be there again if there's a good if there's a foreman or a general contractor listening it's like hey i can get these guys they can just get the brooms going a little bit you know maybe dig a little bit of a hole or something something easy we're down to go to a real construction site i just know that there might be some issues with that what are you laughing about that i'm i'm i made him laugh i'm looking at the at the gmail right now the pmt boucher party and i just said how did the washington post get this email because the washington post i feel like is in every gmail account just spamming but this this this email hasn't been submitted to anything how did this end up on a subscriber i'm sure somebody out there has has entered it oh fuck that makes sense yeah yeah that's it got to mystery solved either way we need we need the aws help i think it's gonna be a very funny video that's monday may someone help me 18 yep may 18th jacksville area let us know we'll bring the beer we'll bring the twisted tea and six we'll bring the six bring the six and we're just gonna we're gonna try to build some shit what are you looking at now max uh this is a girl that wants to date's act oh let's go i'm looking at the emails would like to apply to be zack's future fiance and your ticket to another bachelor party in vegas i'm in the chicago area soon to be nine time a wl okay he's the perfect i feel i am the perfect candidate for this role how old is she 29 okay zack 28 28 she jumped straight to fiance though i felt like we're missing some steps there well she's trying to just get us a bachelor party shut it back to vegas yeah good on her great move love that move what if zack just started getting engaged every year and then breaking it off yeah he just kept on buying a bachelor parties yeah you can't yeah my boy is not gonna get checked up for life boy needs to keep his options open but yeah someone please hit us up we need that uh and it's gonna be very fun and grit week get excited for grit week early grit week this year it's gonna be awesome we're changing it up because we did last year the last couple years we've been doing the tahoe trip which we're still doing but doing tahoe and then grit week like two weeks apart was not uh manageable so grit week and vanny woodhead number two will be making his debut yep official debut knock on wood big week huge week huge week i'm excited very excited i'm very excited for the first interview so we need we need uh yeah we need we need someone to help us out okay zack my who's back in the week this week is going to be barcelona because we had uh we had our class go today and barcel made a light work of madrid oh oh okay two oh it's pretty impressive there's uh those uh hey what's what's up with tonam uh taught them they did taught him is now 17th on the table they're clear they did win against asavilla 2 1 on the third and then west hand lost oh it's an arsenal right so it's over so they're it's not over they're not not completely over but their relegation zone for earlier is not the same as now okay so a good one for them as well did you watch el class go i watch clips from because there's an all-time free kick in there to get the day started oh really yeah all time margus rashford just hits an absolute beauty are you are you sneaky a soccer fan i'm like a sneak i dabble you know i don't want to is it mostly because the ishio speed no my uh my brother nick got me into oh that's right that's right you're your brother's keeper also they got the olivia or ego bump they're wearing the olivia or ego drossies in there so like that's a good bump for them as well wait what does that mean uh olivia over ego in the building might might catch a win wait they're wearing like special jerseys for her easy they got the or up front yeah it's a collaboration jersey oh oh are there i didn't know that they dropped them here recently okay i didn't know olivia rodrigo had it like that yeah i mean that's like she has her own that's crazy big big dub for olivia rodrigo kind of looking sideways at barca like barca you should i don't know that you would just like put a random person's initials on your jersey these respect her game she obviously respects the barces yeah wow okay good job is that anything else in the boot any other who's backs max any other who's backs i don't do this segment yeah you don't but i'm just wondering if you did maybe today i'm wet okay you are okay brice hall back oh yeah congrats memes here we go memes also nfl schedule coming out on thursday so that means we'll get it probably tomorrow mm-hmm i'm so sick of the nfl schedule they did ruin something that was fun i don't even think it was ever fun it was fun for like a minute it was when we like didn't not when it wasn't fully released before now it's just it's not you know who you're playing i know but it's cool to like look at it and be like win loss win loss but now they've just made it where they're gonna release like two games i the bears and seahawks are playing week week the opening kickoff they're gonna release that on like tuesday morning i got a good morning american be like who tease yeah i i don't i don't think i ever actually sat and watched an entire video from any team doing this the schedule release i think i would like skim through it listen to about like 30 seconds it's never it's not that great no just tell us the games yeah i miss football i miss football too i'm excited for football okay football so much let's talk some hockey with paul bisinett paul bisinett's brought to you by rhesus if you remember school lunches as a kid and those times that you scored a rhesus you were basically in kit 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special guest one of our favorite guys in the whole world why do you say it why do you say very so many times every time i'm on would you say that for everybody just you just you dude you say very like five or six times yeah because you are you're very very very very special guests paul bisinett thank you for making me feel special yeah tnt biz we could have had you on at a better time i feel like everything is the whole hockey world is is is zoned in on biz you're the story for a lot of different things uh which one do you want to start with do you want to start with gronk you guys go wherever you want all right let's start with gronk i kind of i kind of figured that was coming well you got you got railroaded i mean is that all time like like you think if there was one guy on the planet who knew brocode it would be it would be rob gronkowski right yes like can we all just agree on that yes i'm sitting there in like the back room and sabers are going on a power play and all of a sudden gronk comes on the screen i'm like oh this is awesome in-game hit from gronk well it's basically he's the main focus we're not even really watching the power play as dog shit as buffalo's power play has been all playoffs and even the end of the regular season and then they ask him about wit saber chug and all of a sudden i get thrown under the bus yeah that was fucking crazy i'm although when it happened i i i mean i was busting out laughing because it was so random but i mean what did you guys think well the the only thing i think it was funny uh it was funny the only issue i had with it was gronk saying the word high school oh i do like gronk what he was saying was his high school friends in the fact that he is 36 and you're a single man hitting up other single people who are 36 in the buffalo area correct now i'm on the epstein final not high school right right right because like if you if you just listen to it you're like wait what the fuck did you just say so uh also i oldie was sentence for biz yeah tough sentence oldie was in the box with him oh yeah okay so yeah maybe i i'm sure oldie was just doing the splits and getting the morale going and trying to get buffalo's power play back on track he literally was yeah yeah i mean we're getting them on uh spitting checklists tomorrow so we'll see what he has to say about it but obviously i was more of like laughter and then like why would like of anything to say on national television vision why would that be like what did i like i don't know maybe maybe it's because like he had a thing for that high school girl i don't know what the what's going on there i don't know he may be he might just be jealous that's what i'm thinking i don't think that's the case guys come on this guy's a man missile how many super bowls did groc win two or three uh or four you got four one with tampa two right yeah yeah um did it help at all with the prospects because like that's the way to spin it like i got i got a few messages yeah so groc might have given you a solid like that's how i saw it's like hey he's just doing business solid he's getting him he's getting his name out there being like hey business on the profiles hit him up he's he when he's in the buffalo area let's get it going yeah i like i'm good though i just didn't need that yeah like i would i would just rather have not have had that but once again it's funny we're gonna get him on we'll joke about it and then who knows maybe we can chisel him into a sandbagger yeah i mean i like it i was a sandbagger yeah our rowdy he's a rowdy yes memes he would kill me in a rough and rowdy but like that play like that deserves like like what the fuck are you doing yeah yeah yeah okay well you would expect that he he would be better with a brocode i will give you that that was kind of it was a shocking overreach by by groc on that one yeah and his fellow eskimo brothers i thought that we had we're in the the trust tree you know but we're in the trust tree you're an eskimo brother with we're we're we're gonna stop it there you just said you just said it you you know i said i i i agree but i said i'm stopping it there oh is it the the uh what's your name from arizona who uh might have done some i'll stop it there some film i'll stop it there is she an actress you guys the same actress act or stop it there all right so the next next uh order business you in the most i thought you guys would have had some funnier stuff that you guys would have brought up what do you mean we're biz guys okay all right thank you i appreciate that i defend you like if you want hey if you want if you tell us we got a fucking fight groc we'll do it we'll get our ass kicked but we'll do it one way we should do a rough and rowdy where it's us three versus him handicap match yeah yeah just that would be a lot more fair like a pack of lions jumping on him yeah biz we are biz guys i like hyenas you can be on grinder for all i care i won't say a word about it wait is he hypothetically like somebody had put his what's convinced i'm gonna get so bored eventually i'm gonna turn on the turn over the other side of the menu that's wits line word for word i'm gonna eventually turn turn over the other side of the menu that's what happened like i said i said i'll do it but it's gonna be at a breakfast joint just given a waitress a complicated order again like i did with wanton and pecan oh it's like uh i think david bowie and mcjag are probably the same way yeah we've seen every vagina yeah what else is out there just try something else though yeah all right so the other business biz is the most biz story ever you the the the uh maple leaves yeah hire a new gm who we like who we like he's a nerd he's a genius genius nerd and then like 24 hours later they get the number one pick where are you at right now with the maple leaves so let's give the backstory so um out of nowhere like so brad tree living who was the uh the former leafs gm they just got rid of them with like a month left in the season they cut ties um i had him in arizona he was our assistant gm there loved him like great guy like uh one of the boys right uh worked under don meloni who was an incredible gm and we had like a really good family in arizona and shane don was our captain there mr coyote he was with the organization for 21 years um got his jersey retired like if you think of the arizona coyotes you think of shane don the player first and then no one else right he was the guy he stuck through the team through very difficult times when it was being sold when the league owned it whenever you know six weeks there was rumors of the team moving out of the desert like he would be kind of putting out fires and keeping the group focused and and when i was there we ended up making playoffs three years in a row and went to the conference finals like and this is all when the league owned the team we didn't have much money so then donor after he retired and i'll get more into this was kind of blackballed and and and stabbed in the back by the organization when shayka and new ownership took over shayka ended up becoming the youngest gm in all the four major sports in the history uh at 26 years old but fast forward to the Leafs now where shane don was one of like the assistant gm's they have a lot of them in a lot of different roles they give them the assistant gm label so my assumption he's hired till july 1st is he's no longer going to be with the Leafs so when out of nowhere and i expect the tree living that the former gm to get let go because things didn't go well in tronald and miss playoffs and there's a lot of question marks thought maybe he would get another stab at it but whatever so out of nowhere they go through this gm search and pops up this john shayka guy's name where he's basically going to be the the first guy in line like that's the guy they're considering and tons of people in the hockey world are shocked based on how it all turned out in arizona when he was there not like he did a great job by any means to begin with but it was the way that he left things so when they eventually named him as general manager me being a leafs fan i was like no my loyalty lies with shane don i want nothing to do with this guy and the fact that he got hired out of nowhere to be the tronald leaf gm like listen maybe he ends up going on to have success but to get the the one of the biggest if not the biggest jobs in hockey as far as a general manager with the track record he has is laughable can you tell us more about that track record because we talked a little bit about it but i'm sure we we didn't scratch the surface we know that he like hosts his own combine which seemed like big brain genius move yeah and listen like i'm just going to give you the facts right and and keep in mind like i couldn't imagine getting the reins to an nhl team as a general manager at 26 years old like i didn't my maturity level at that age nowhere near close enough to be the gm so nor do i think any 26 year olds should be given the reins as general manager of any professional sports team like come on here what are we talking about right there's a reason that it was the record at time so when he was gm there i think the reason that he ended up becoming gm is because he befriended one of the owners at that time there was a large ownership group that had purchased the team from the league so there was like 12 guys hanging around i think he got they got in one of them's ears where they thought it was going to be a good idea because analytics was this bright shiny new toy it was just kind of coming into league where people were talking about it was like it was this revolutionary thing and he just so happened to had already started a company doing it okay analytics are great and all and every team in the nhl uses analytics but it is a department that the gm who delegates a lot of stuff uses as a tool to check some boxes and and end up making a decision it's not the end all be all it's 10 to 15 percent of the pie graph type of thing right along with what's his character like you know what else can he provide the group you know what's his what's his character like what did like how does he gel with teammates like can he maybe play multiple positions so there's so much more that goes into decision making than just like pulling up a pie graph based on like what your your your your technology tracked when this guy was on the ice and how efficient he is so they end up hiring him and his first year there was shamed owns eventual last year as an arizona coyote mind you the year prior that donor had scored i think over 30 goals with the team and then the year where john chica first year's gm i think donor might have had like under 10 goals in the 10 goal range maybe 30 35 points but like at that point he was obviously on the back nine but you still have a great leader who's going to teach these young players you're bringing in how to act off the ice and he was still undecided after that season whether he was going to play the next year from speaking to him it was like no i probably wasn't going to play and even if i wasn't going to play like and they didn't want me playing like that wasn't the big deal so this at that point i believe the gm was now 27 year old 27 years old he call he texts or call shame don't hey meet me at this breakfast place in scott's dale sits down with shame don't 21 years of service mr coyote most one of the most beloved people in the valley him larry fitzgerald uh uh kirk warner a very few uh people in the mix there and he says hey no long uh not only are you not going to play for us like we have no need for you in the organization anymore keep in mind the year prior he had signed a deal where chain don't took deals his whole time in arizona because the league owned them they didn't have any money and then now on his last that last year where yeah his offensive numbers weren't there but keep in mind boys that's not the reason he's around he's around for his leadership being a veteran and just teaching these young guys how to be professionals he ended up taking deferred payments on his contract just to help the team out so this guy who did everything imaginable to help this team win stay in the desert as loyal as they come block the list goes man of faith community guy unreal family man helped out all of his teammates along the way he gets called to a breakfast place to let him know that he's no longer wanted with the organization and shane don't is now with the lease he because brad tree living yeah so check is just following him around time out chica was not even involved with the leafs brad tree living who was the assist gm got the head gm job in tronnell he had been in calgary prior we're fast forwarding like whatever like 10 15 years here to where now tree livings with the the leafs his head gm he brings in donor because of all of his experience and knowledge and it's just a good guy to have at the round table like donor would go watch a chel team games and and see the prospects and like bring back like you know he's really good at this he's really good at that what's his character like he's a round table guy right that's what you need when you want to be a successful general managers if you look at the top five guys in the league not only are they well respected if you look around at their table they have guys who might tell them when they come up with an opinion you're a fucking idiot like fuck you we're not doing that that's what you want you want people combating what you you want people with strong opinions who might call you out on something they disagree with you on right so that was number one on the list so then as these gm for the team um the nhl does a combine and you have to any team only gets access to these players during these windows of times for obvious reasons like nobody gets an advantage so what happened was is he hired a third party uh who was a former trainer with the coyotes to go test let's say let's start here with one kid so this is the original one that ends up coming up as like oh they he tested a guy and like he wasn't at the combine like what was this so then the excuse that was used was well this guy wasn't a part of the top prospects game and they we were never going to get an opportunity to to test him therefore that's why we did it well they dug into it a little more i guess they tested the guy third party in october the top prospects team or whatever it was having even hadn't even been announced by them right so it was so then they look more into it and sure enough they'd done it with dozens of guys or let's like a number of guys so they cheated so what happened was is boom they lost a first round draft pick a second round draft pick a third round draft pick now to say that the the nhl gms are a boys club would be an understatement steve iserman uh uh dog dog arm strong there's a bunch of guys at the top where they're well respected they've been around a while ken haulin and they've done it so long and they do it with integrity that they all respect one another so uh lou lamarillo could you imagine these guys when they find out that this young fucking punk who stabbed shane don in the back is now testing these guys behind the scenes to get an advantage on them okay all right listen let's swipe that one under the rug who gives a shit so because he's such a genius gm at that time and uh it was covid time so uh they shut down the league and they figured out okay we're going to reboot things in this bubble and we're going to do like a play-in because it's unfair to some teams who are on the outside looking in that we're maybe trending in the right direction let's do a play-in because it's covid and it's different and all these teams are going to go into the bubble that we're within striking distance i believe 12 from each conference well right before that uh uh earlier in the season they had signed john checa to a four-year extension they gave him a four-year deal now all of a sudden you get you hire does the young gm you haven't really done much here's four years of security for you after you've really proven nothing hey good for him that's great he goes to the owners the the the new ownership group uh fuck i'm john obrink the morillo's they purchased the team off of all those guys in the midst of all this and they were now the majority owners of the team so they're the ones who extended him he goes to them and he says i'm going to go meet with the new jersey devils and uh and i'm going to go talk to them about something unrelated than being hired there to work for the new jersey devils they say oh okay well as long as you're going to meet with the devils to not take a job and it's something unrelated to that he goes to new jersey comes back how many everyday is later and he tells them i'm leaving the team and i'm going to go work with the new jersey devils and they're like no you're not we sign you to a four-year extension with a non-compete and he's like well i'm going to be doing other things for them then uh you guys need to fire me and i'm going to go work for them and they're like uh no you're going to fucking keep working for us and you're going to go to the bubble where the team's going right now because we've kind of made playoffs for the first time in a while and we just gave you a four-year extension he says nope not going to the bubble so refuses the league eventually looks into everything and then he is relieved of his duties and fired that was the last time he was a GM in the national hockey so the biggest richest organization in the NHL after that that layover is now going to just after doing a an extensive shirts for general managers is going to name him to the head of position now listen i have no ill will towards it go on and go have sex sex Jesus success with the leaves okay go i want nothing to do with it i actually think that's fair i want nothing to do with it buddy all this has to do with the fact that my buddy Shane don't who went to bat for me and in times where maybe i was on the bubble on a cusp by with the coyotes he was the guy in the room saying no we want biz for the morale in the locker room because the guys like them so if it wasn't for him i might not even get the five years in the NHL if it wasn't for him i don't have the most enjoyable five years of my my professional hockey career and for and and he was the catalyst and the captain the leader when i was going through tough spots who could i go talk to he had a family at home with four kids and he was the guy that any guy in that locker room can lean on lean on i would take a bullet for that guy so the fact that all that went down that now the team's gone because of the shit show and all all these little things have part to do with why the coyotes left among the ownership group and decision making along the way and um that was my decision as to why i'm no longer with them now the funny the funny part of it is is i announced that yep and then they got the Steve Simmons who's a reporter obviously did some research and at the press conference asks an absolute bomb of a question i thought it was a little offside i don't think the guy deserved to get hammered on the way that he did regardless of what he did to my friend i thought it was a bit much and the fact that the Steve Simmons guy could have asked him instead of asking peli about the question he had john chica to the left of him fucking have the balls to ask chica about it when he was the question it was basically like to peli it goes you told me that you've done extensive research and have done your due diligence when i've talked to 20 people around the league and 19 of them have told me that this guy has no credibility he's a snake uh snake oil salesman he's foolish and just basically like like question completely question the guy's character where once again if you're gonna ask the question just ask it to to john chica but that's regardless of that with the fact that they named him that with the fact that that's the press conference obviously leaf slam and the whole hockey world's going into an absolute fucking meltdown right and then sure enough the next day on espn is lottery draft and because of the job and the tank job that Leafs did towards the end of the season after olympics even though they were probably trying to win they ended up being top five worst teams therefore eligible to get the first overall pick like huge bounce because if you finish if you finish like six to like 11th your odds dropped way worse right and if they were able to stay in the top five picks they wouldn't have to given up their pick to the boston brun so there was so much at stake where maybe they wouldn't have had a first round pick for the next two years teams and shambles and then more than likely austin matthews their captain and franchise player is like all right this is a shit show i'm out of here i want to go win and then boom it's automatic rebuild they end up getting the lottery ball number 12 my number with the coyotes oh wow which wit just was like when it went when it popped up and it was number 12 and the leafs got the first overall pick and i had just quit the team the day prior wit was on his knees at home laughing his dick off in front of the tv like at the fact that this has happened to us like we're like the sabers chug like we're taking so many l's on our podcast right now it's crazy and um and they end up getting the first overall pick who i said in the prior podcast assuming that it was going to be them gavin mackenna yeah who a kid i want to follow he's going to be i think he's going to be a phenom i'm going to follow wherever he goes well now i don't get the follow yeah because i'm sure the leafs are going to draft them so i just got to re-emphasize here i have no ill will towards this john chica other than fact that he stabbed my buddy in the back i believe that people can grow and mature and get older and i think that he was put in a situation that was he was in way over his head and even if he was just getting word from the ownership group or management or whoever else was involved i'm pretty sure he had his hand in it and the fact that he didn't want anybody uh threatening his integrity or or or his questioning or whatever he wanted to do with the team at the round table and that's why he was fucking he got a stroke split at the table but i love that you are a ride or die friend i actually want to apologize because pfd and i did on tuesday night when we joined your chiclet's live stream which i think we had technical difficulties we couldn't even hear what you guys were saying grinelli hit me up was like hey you want to troll biz i had none of the backstory boys i'm with you now i you know what biz as of right this second until you tell us we can do it we will never again utter the words this is a leafshier wow that is such a bad because we ride with you and obviously i ride with you guys and i love you boys and even if you didn't and you want to keep trolling me like hockey isn't such an amazing place right now like the gameplay playoffs uh the parody and the fact that you have like these bravo type bachelorette type like chaotic things drama wise happening off the ice there's nothing better than the n h l right now it's crazy top dogs the top dogs right now and it's so cool to see because the players reciprocate the energies the the energy of the fans and vice versa and that's the passion of hockey fans and i still love Leafs Nation and the people involved the ones who are coming at me where they're like it's all about the the crest i don't give a fuck about the front of the crest rather than my my good friend and that's the end of that yeah so so hopefully they can see where i'm coming from and i'm glad you guys got the backstory but at the end of the day this is complete theater yeah it's theater and i'm interested to see what they're able to do the Leafs because i think that with their roster right now i think that they'll be in playoffs next year yeah the fact that they got the number one overall pick after all this happened was just the most chaotic scene possible insane it was nuts i read a story that this guy when he was in in phoenix he had like a bunch of computer screens that would be on in his office and they had like charts and graphs on it but the charts and graphs weren't actually monitoring anything it was just like to show that he was an analytics guy and he's got numbers on all the screens have you heard that so i i did hear that story and i don't know if that's true or not i feel like that might be one just trying to kind of pile on and and i do think that this guy he does have an analytics company and he is big into analytics there is one other story where like i i don't have any personal vendetta about this i actually like would probably shake his hand for it so i was approached by a guy kreg morgan at the time when i when i retired i was working when all that was going down i was working for the coyotes because i went back to do radio so i got to hang around with tyson ash bob heathouse all the rich nairn who hired me who was our pr guy while i was playing there and who like allowed me to reboot my twitter account all people i loved and had my back while i was there um um so i was traveling with the team doing radio at the time and i i was drinking like i i don't drink anymore but i was drinking them but i was more into weed and i i felt like the weed would help with my anxiety and it was just to me a better high than being drunk so i got approached by this kreg morgan who was working with the team and the athletic as a a writer and he approached me he's like hey i want to talk to you about like your cannabis use and like how it helps you and stuff like that and and i was like oh sure just assuming that he had already asked the team and and so we talked about this article oh you know why do you do it why how does it help with your anxiety like i'm like oh like i you know i obviously had a lot of concussions throughout my days and i feel like doing that is a higher buzz than booze and and i like doing it and it makes me happier blah blah blah the article comes out and the team is like furious at me and they ended up kicking me off the road i never travel with the team anymore after that and they suspended me for five games so i didn't work for weed buddy for fucking weed for weed ridiculous and like buddy i was fucking trying to bring attention to the team i was i was doing like a video content for him but that was the moment where i realized like i'm fucking i'll just do whatever it is i want to do as far like like that i believe at the end of that season is when i ended up joining the podcast and i said fuck it like i'm just gonna do any other side hustle because why am i gonna put put all my eggs in one basket for people who are gonna shun me and kick me off the road for smoking a little weed yeah and are you thinking yeah and now it's like a mandated part of your job which is wonderful and it really helps i just i just like i like the herb like i do i will try to i i know i mean do you guys you do you smoke yeah i enjoy yeah not a drunk guy but yeah like yes i love you drugs i like weed and i don't i don't i don't drink at all anymore i actually like prefer smoking weed way more than booze and now so that was another thing like other than the computer thing like that's why i was like whatever i'm good and and and also my understanding is that that came from him and and worked its way down okay all right yeah now you're presenting a pretty compelling case yeah but i'm telling you is like i have no personal ill will we do though we'll take it we don't take the personal ill will we thought it might be that he had like fake stats that he would have on random screen is in his office sound like a real mover to shaker and now what you're telling us is maybe not a great guy to you yeah we we hate him and we have your back we'll do it you just tell us text us stuff you want us to say and we'll just say it i think we just let them be okay all right all right let's uh let's talk hockey right now uh it's been awesome playoffs let's start with the series that ended hurricanes flyers uh sweep by the hurricanes uh zach are you gonna say something i was curious we uh we did come to conclusion earlier that a sweep may have deemed a city not a basketball city does a flyers hurricane sweep deem philadelphia not a hockey city no no no philadelphia flyers we didn't come to that we didn't say the sweep what else did you have zach though oh oh the sweep wasn't the reason for the it was that it was 73rd there wasn't 70 carolina hurricanes got it got it oh this oh so was this sweep the reason for the wet did that that's all he got wet earlier you got wet earlier for the sixers are you referencing the fact that nix fans kind of took over yeah building but what are you asking zach so would that be double wet oh yeah he does have to get soggy again all right i'll get soggy if hank gets soggy twice for the for the brood he did he got twice he got wet for no yeah i got wet for both yeah he got wet for the the Celtics too yeah no he got wet once for both of those he didn't get wet no twice you do not get wet twice yeah sorry this one second we gotta deal with some of this all right so then hank has to get wet right now too no we it was one way we got one wet for both both losses memes what do you think about this i literally just got me one second we got some internal stuff we gotta deal with here i don't want to get all that too all right let's ask biz biz we have a rule on this show that when your team gets eliminated from the playoffs you have to you have to get wet you gotta go i got so fucking wet and so i was i literally the sixers they got eliminated so we got wet but then we're wondering is it double wet because the flyers also got swept but also biz the same thing happened to hank last week and he just got wet once yeah so i mean i i think that you you it starts at the top and hanks a leader and if he only got wet once then you should great ruling biz great ruling by the way i we put zack up to that so that that's all oh yeah you make exactly all your just got mad at zack you zack what the fuck was that zack you're okay dude all right i so i have a real question about this series max don't get too wet oh max we're good here buddy uh let's hug it out boys let's hug it out come on max you're not wet you're dry if i could forgive john tika you could forgive max max are we good yeah whatever to continue okay zack is freaking out now zack you're good all right let's talk about this actual series though because i do have a question everyone kind of dogs on the hurricanes in their in their style of play that you know the dump and chase and everything is that wrong because they also are just insanely good at forechecking and they seem like like is it because they don't have a superstar what is it why are people why why do people like get annoyed with the hurricanes when they've just started the playoffs with eight straight wins they look awesome what is it what what pisses people off about the hurricanes i don't know i you know i i i can understand why some some people might think that their system is boring and maybe in the past i will definitely say that so far this playoff like they have not been they've been electric like they've scored some amazing goals off the rush they do like so many amazing things well and in fact like they don't like they're the opposite of boring they don't just sit back they constantly attack you even when they're playing defense like they'll be up in your face like if they have four words on a on a control breakout swing and like inside their own blue line like they're going to have d-man up in their face so i think that it's a bad narrative now okay i could understand why maybe in years past like people didn't take them seriously because they knew once they got out of the metro and they met a team like florida who was just bigger stronger did have those superstars that they would get worked well because people thought their system was a little bit boring they didn't take them seriously and they knew that they would get worked by a team like florida who had all those things that they didn't well when florida ended up working on like they got to say haha i told you so um i don't think that they have in the east any team like florida remaining and i think that they're out to prove a lot of people wrong and they have a massive massive chip on their shoulder and they deserve any bit of credit that they've they're getting and if anyone has doubted them or said negative things at this point at least they should be getting on their hands and knees begging for forgiveness okay because i i like that because i like i've watched some of these hurricane games no they're not like they're the way they fortune they just basically say we're going to put pressure on you the entire game and it's gonna suck beyond belief for you because you can't get the puck out of your own zone and it's like fun to watch that style of play i get it no no superstars but they just constantly keep like going at them and you there's nothing you could do about it i don't i don't think they're they've been that boring as much as what you kind of alluded to that it just sucks to play against them you hate playing against them because it's boring like from from my point of view if i was rooting for the capitals against the uh the hurricanes and the playoffs it sucked it was like nothing good would happen they're not giving you any time and space right if anything that if you're a carolina hurricanes fan they are the type of team that makes you so proud to root for them because they're not like i think that they're still even at in today they're still under the cap now to go back to analytics i believe that if you took all the teams in league they would probably base the most of their decision making on analytics and making sure they're getting the best bang for buck on their players and and that's how they based a lot of their decisions over over the years and this tulski guy who's like kind of he would be considered like a nerdy analytics gm but hey all the credit to him and the moves that he's made he tried to make a big play last year where he came off of natus moved him to colorado got ronin without having him agreed to sign a contract ronin ended up saying no i don't really want to be here and and that fizzled through but on the on the goal line coming towards the deadline last year he made a trade to get ronin and so ronin this unreal elite player goes from getting poached from colorado where he'd want a cup doesn't want to sign in carolina and he moves them at the deadline to dalis for stankhoven and then somehow works out a three-way trade to get taylor hall well along with a guy they drafted and developed in jackson blake a former player jason blake sung son they've formed the second line on that team and they're the hottest line in playoffs right now yeah so they have two of these guys locked in moving moving forward between stankhoven and jackson blake at just over 11 million bucks for the next eight years and they're dominating playoffs ronin cost dalis 12 million so smart smart moves very efficient players and then they got a guy taylor hall who won a heart trophy with the new jersey devils former first overall pick they get got him off of baffle or excuse me chicago for cents on the dollar and then they signed him to a deal where i think he's making four million so you have the hottest line in the league making three million then you paid the one superstar that you got rid of at the deadline last year that's fucking making moves baby okay and aside from that the the last compliment and stroke off i'll give him i think it has to do with the culture setter a guy who won a stanley cup there and rod brindlemore he's their head coach he was a maniac when he played he would be the guy first guy to the rink in the gym work out before practice hardest working guy in practice last guy on the ice after practice go to the gym last guy to leave the rink working out after games this guy retired he should be in the hall of fame as a player isn't and now he's led the carolina hurricanes since he's been head coached to i believe eight or nine now uh playoff appearances and this is his third trip to the conference finals i believe in the last four years where the last two times they've been they've been swept uh but man this guy he gets the most out of his players an absolute culture setter he's on a hometown discount as head coach there and it is honestly if you are a fan of sport you you have to be in love with the carolina hurricanes in their story okay i like this and then i like this you have to the i have to and credit to philly because everything they did this year to turn around their organization with rick talket and management and despite all the noise and bullshit on the outside to get to the second round when they had a 3.8 percent chance with a lot of young guys in that lineup following the olympics to even make playoffs to beat pittsburgh in the battle battle of pennsylvania with three four hall of famers on the other side kudos to philadelphia and my boy rick talker for doing what they did this year so with the olympics it's interesting you brought that up because i was going to ask you if if there's been any noticeable trend of like any of the guys that played on the olympic team um have have they bounced but like when they came back to uh to their teams have they been playing better have they been playing worse like they're tired out has there been any any like noticeable thread that you've seen between all the olympians um i think that for the majority of them i think that they have like like exceeded my expectations and and outperformed expectations based on how much hockey they've played this year these guys are going the hockey is such a brutal sport boys like i look football is obviously very difficult but they got a week between games these guys are lacing them up like like brock faber and quinn hughes from minnesota played 30 minutes the other night they've been playing hockey every other day in games battling for for what eight nine months now and then going to play best on best they each lugged 30 minutes the other night they had five points combined i would say 75 percent of them are still playing to elite status and then there's some guys who are just dealing with probably sore groins and you know just hips or fucked up shoulders whatever they're trying to play through but i i think that that more than the not have outperformed my expectations and people's and still playing at an elite level lebron played 37 last night just so you know like yeah it's cool if they're playing 30 yeah he's 41 okay let me ask you this okay let me ask you this how many games how many games in the regular seasons that he did he take off a couple maybe maybe a few here there to compare nba and nhl where nba had to make a rule where if you don't at least dress for 65 games that you can't play in playoffs boys we're we're talking apples and oranges here and the embers 40 minutes tonight and his knee went like sideways two weeks ago well good for him he's making 40 fucking million dollars he should be uh all right other the abs is anyone anyone taking out the abs also uh do you have any thoughts on nathan mckinnon going full scuba gear in the pool i loved it like guys can't play mermaids what the fuck are we doing i i used to do that when i was a little kid i'd get i get the the scuba mask i just dive on at the bottom of the pool for like five hours what we can't do that anymore we're getting shunned yeah it was obviously a silly video for people who are unaware of of how nathan mckinnon operates so for you non hockey fans this guy is an absolute dog he's a he's the the i think he's the biggest superstar in the league that will like go and like quote unquote handle his own business i'm not talking about like fighting per se but if there's a loose puck in a corner he's going to try to take your fucking head off to get it and that's not what you see from skilled high-end players all the time they try to preserve themselves but he'll go reverse hits he'll go shoulder to shoulder with you heading into the wall to get the advantage uh he also handles his office as more intense probably than anyone in the league as far as diet uh preparation he has a mental coach uh physically um like hyperbaric chambers like anything to get the edge he will do it and one thing that tyson berry his good friend who played with him in colorado brought to our knowledge was in order to like recover he gets to zone two cardio on his off days and he does it through low impact exercise in the swimming pool so he does that he'll go in there with the snorkeler and the and the goggles and with the the the the footsie things and he just kind of gets his heart rate going and he goes and does loser laps with the with the scuba gear on and obviously it's it's a little bizarre because like i don't i bet you there's not one other guy in the nhl that does it but he has some unauthentic um you know things that he does as far as his preparation and and who am i to to judge him based on what he's bringing to the ice he's all in every every second of his day seems to be accounted for and how he's going to be ready to go and fire on all cylinders the next game so no he's a fascinating human all right so we got no problem with the with the swimming with the scuba gear is anyone what what what is stopping the abs i know it's only two one so like the wild you know answer well the wild can yeah the wild can play like they did last game they they'll they could beat them like they like though it was the first time in these playoffs they will one that colorado's lost and two they've looked human and i think that the two guys i mentioned quinn hues and brock faber can be a problem because they're so dynamic offensively from the back end but they also have some superstar wingers and karyl caprice off who's the russian he just signed the biggest deal in nhl history just over 17 million dollars per year on an eight year deal and then they have a guy on an absolute bar goon deal in um uh boldy matt boldy who played for team usa at the olympics had this stellar um i think he scored the first goal in that gold medal game or at least made the play i remember he was i think he scored he went and dangled through kail mccarr and and taves which is like unheard of so they they're dealing with a couple significant injuries right now but they i believe they have the edge in gold tending their d they have a couple dynamic d and then those very skilled wingers now i believe that colorado will bounce back in game four but i also believe in minnesota and the culture that they built with bill garen who is the gm of team usa for the olympics their dogs like they're at home they're down to one and game four is going to tell me everything i need to know about both teams okay like that what about um what about the canadiens did montreal figure out buffalo what a crowd so what first of all if if if you're just like a sports fan if you ever have the ability to go to montreal to watch a playoff game do it it's unreal the the they they usually bring out a legend he brings out the torch he brings it out they like ignite the ice and the ice is in flames and then cold plays playing and they're coming on the ice every canadian fan is in a red jersey waving the towels as they come on the ice they know it's like going to watch a british premier league soccer game where even a little subtle poke check defensively they'll cheer for it yeah like bravo great job so the the knowledge of the fan base in the crowd is just so fun to be there and be a part of outside they have 25 000 people outside the building going crazy with the monitors out there too so you see that a lot with sports now but they like lead the way in that regard and they're the new york yankees of of like the players the way they're treated they got paparazzi it's just insane and martin st louis a french canadian player who was uh you know he's a hall of famer i don't know if he is yet but he might be but he should be one stanley cop i believe he won an mvp he's now their head coach and has taken this young group to the next level and they yeah they they have a great well-built team like they just they have a really good team top four lines their their d are very good they got good contracts they have a super sorry defenseman lane hudson uh col koffield with badger 50 gold this year he was a wisconsin badger nick sezuki's gonna win the selkie trophy um but i would say that right now now buffalo's america's team right so it kind of sucks that they the last two games they've laid laid a big in the a bit of an egg but five on five they don't look great their power play has been killing them a little bit and they're getting fucking worked in the face off circle so they're not even starting with the pock like i don't know what last time i've seen a team get dominated as bad in this face off circle in a they're like 60 to 65 percent they're starting with the pock so for five on five that's just killing them and they're just they're just good they know they feed off the crowd and buffalo is a little bit inexperienced and you you can see it right now they look a little bit shook so i'm interested to see just like i said about uh knowing and finding out everything we need to know about those two teams in game four if muncher all takes a three one series lead there's i think they're going to close that thing out and they're going to move on to care play carolina so buffalo's on the hot seat and then the one thing with them is the question mark and net you go back to alex lyon or you go on a oop oop oop oop peckalukinan the finished kid yeah the uh i just looked they they won 62 percent of their face offs tonight that's not a recipe for success no and and they were buffalo fans are bitching about the refs but i thought they they didn't play a very smart game they need to get they need to get back to playing more physical and more on more with an edge especially at the at the fact that they had the size size advantage yeah there was a big there was a big moment for me in this series and it it was with greenway and anderson muncher y'all anderson's with muncher y'all and at the end of last game muncher y'all was i believe up four one and greenway is like 6465 he's even bigger than anderson and he was fucking going up and cross checking and punching him back in the head and basically blowing him and calling him a little bitch like fuck you you little bitch we just fucking worked you and you're building and you're a little bitch you're my bitch and greenway just took it and didn't do anything and he's a fourth liner and i'm like bud drop the fucking gloves and pound that guy's face in and show your team that you're not backing down and fuck you we'll see you in muncher y'all you motherfuckers didn't do fuck all then they went to muncher y'all and got absolutely regged all tonight and he didn't go after anderson he didn't do anything i thought that that was a very pivotal moment where hockey has a lot to do with intimidation and i'm a if i was the coach or one of the guys in the team i would go up and tap him and say hey fucking go grab that fucking guy and pump his eyes shut i don't even care if it's not in you you gotta fake it till you make it yeah grab onto him and wrestle him and then go to the ground at least i like that pump his eyes shut as a canadian are you are you rooting for material i'm so we'll keep in mind i'm from southern ontario like i used to go watch more buffalo sabers game than leafs games growing up because the ticket they would give us tickets at par and i would go to the the old odd buffalo auditorium so i'm kind of 50 50 but if muncher y'all wins i would love to see a canadian team go the distance and win yeah it'd be awesome and my my pal bissonette je perds français like i'm like my family's for muncher y'all well i'm a i'm i'm french canadian you also like there's you can't have another southern team we've had the panthers win and then now you have the aves looking like the best team you can't have a southern team win the cop again degas minnesota a lot of southern teams since that we talked about that calling uh colorado south like southern united states yeah i've had a few people back me like it's we're we're on the cusp we're on the cusp here it's more west than south and i get that but we're on the cusp there yeah all right so like if you had to re pick it right now we're watching the uh night's dux series right now which this will be a pivotal game what's the score now it's two two okay um but if you had to pick is it aves or is it like have you seen something like hurricanes i mean the hurricanes have not lost in the playoffs i mean if you if you held a gun to my head i would say avalanche just because i i i just i look at their roster and right now they other than josh manson who might he's coming back any game now he they look healthy um i would lean towards them but if minnesota wins next game like that's a coin flip um and then uh if vegas wins this game they're going to be up three one of that series and vegas is good man like they got a strong team they got good goal tending and the other funny element of the league all the leaf chatter is mitch marner who is is having an unbelievable playoff probably one of the top guys like for like the consmyth trophy right now he's got fucking half the amount of goals in one playoff than he had for the leafs his entire career and you could say that leafs fans kind of ran him out of town and i was i was ragging on a little bit in in like 18 games and playoffs that and maybe it's 21 games that he played for the leafs from games fives to seven so in very important closeout games where you were deciding series he had zero goals and six assists well this is a guy who won a top dollar coming out of his entry level contract wanted to be paid like a superstar and in crunch time i mean i'm not just putting it all on him but he didn't deliver so i was kind of like ah fuck i'm like enough he can he can he can leave we don't need him anymore let's try to solve our problems without him regardless of how good he was in the regular season well now he's gone off to vegas and onto bigger and brighter thing so it just throws more salt in the wound to how crazy that the the 12 month turnaround for the tronel maple leaves has been and i do feel bad because i ragged on him probably too hard but he deserves all the praise that he's getting now and how he's rebounded and performed so far in these playoffs and like i said probably the front runner in the west if not top three for who i would give the cons my two as of right now okay and go ahead i was going to ask you about like you're moving on from the leaf so i wanted to know you mentioned that your your fandom is kind of up for auction or you're searching you're trying to figure out who it's going to be like what what are we thinking about do you have like a handful of teams that you're going to pick from so there is a possibility that that the Leafs do pick stenberg as the first overall pick people say that right now he might be a little bit more nhl ready and ready to step in this is a very deep draft i think for the first three to five picks and so who knows maybe it's one of those things where mckanna ends up dropping i don't think that's going to be the case if mckanna drops to two san osa ended up getting the second overall pick right now i'm rocking a san osa sharks maclin celebrenee jersey this kid's stud is a stud he is a fucking freak he's the next sydney crossby he didn't get nominated for the heart trophy this year because his team didn't make the playoffs he finished with more than 50 points more than the next guy in his team and dragged them to like the end of the season almost making playoffs putting the team on his back as a 20 year old just dominating he dominated the olympics like best on best he was like he was like arguably the best player for canola maybe just as good if not better than mc david who got the mvp but i digress they got second overall and got lucky with the lottery ball too to bump up if mckanna drops to two i think it's going to be automatic i'm jumping on san osa sharks train okay if not there are a lot of options i have as far as who i may go to but as you could see my the hat i'm wearing i might keep it neutral and not root for a team for like a year like i might just wait hanging the weeds not be a a biased donkey like my boy wit and like i've been in the past yeah look at you got we got we got a league off right here we respect the shield the league i think our logo is so much cooler than yours no this is the best i've always said the ambit the jerry west you got no respect for jerry west the logo um i got respect for jerry okay all right i got uh one last question for you biz you're the best roback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q zips polo so these joggers one more crazy thing about vegas yeah they fought they're they're known as one of the most cutthroat organizations in the league with the decisions they make they fired their head coach who they want to stand they come with a few years back four day four games before playoffs started yeah and hired john totorello so you talk about all the craziness and drama and shit that's been going on with the nhl like it kept getting crazier and crazier and crazier oh sorry it was like a maybe 11 games there was another team that fired their coach four games before trying to make playoffs fired islanders yeah islanders patrick wall hall of fame goalie he went and convinced the guy to move his wave is no move clause in st louis to come to them and then four games before playoffs they fire him and hire pete the bore who was a a coach waiting in the weeds the nhl is f***ed yeah it's unreal all right promo code take roback.com promo code take q zips polo so these joggers shorts roback.com promo code take zack do you have a final question for biz oh by the way the name popped in my head bb jones that's who we were talking about earlier yep yep she went so so we had intercourse and she went on a local radio show the next morning because i wouldn't post a picture with her and she told the whole valley i had a small wiener and i didn't last long in bed that's mean you probably lasted what three minutes oh uh well it went longer than that because her boyfriend kept calling oh i found out because i found out was her boyfriend through that interview she was on the next morning for so i'm going i'm i'm i'm heading to the rink the next day we have a game against the chicago blackhawks fighting for a playoff position and i'm listening to the whole valley find out i have a small wiener and i'm horrible in the south so i mean if you can't laugh at yourself then you can't laugh at yourself but that s*** funny yeah all right zack finish song i don't think i got a small one i would say it's like yeah it's decent you've seen my rope yeah you've been you're not shy yeah you take your helicopter cock yeah you're not shy but i mean your antider yeah if you if you clipped it then you lose you know half inch so smart move not doing that that's the thing i must have rolled it back when she saw it anyway roll back last time these congratulations on having an absolute peace i was curious he's a happy shaper for is what is mad is mad you shape for the future face of this league and if so will it cement him as a gray's canadian volt on no i would say that it would you can't beat wing gratsky when it comes to hockey players and the greatest like canadian of all time um shout out like all the other great canadians like michael mayers alexander grand bell jester beaver um john candy like the list goes on we are jim carrey a lannis morse a little ironic and don't you think a little too ironic yeah i really do think it's like rain yep on your wedding date sing with me it's a free ride when you already paid it's good advice it's just didn't take quick who would have known jam um matthew schaefer is going to win the calder for rookie of the year uh he had probably the greatest rookie season for a defenseman in the history of the nth all this year and he is on his way to becoming one of the greats and i i hope that he's able to follow it up next year and he's such an amazing kid and sure as shit we're doing this interview on mother's day and he unfortunately lost his mother to a battle with cancer and this kid who has been through and dealt with all that got drafted last year obviously not having his mother there and had the cancer ribbon on his jersey when he was drafted he was in tears obviously wanted his mother who he adored to be there he battles through all that adversity comes in his first year in the league and does what he does with with with with all the all the circumstances so what a kid what a special kid and a special player and we're blessed the nth l has them all right nth l's in great hands shout out to all the moms out there the amazing mothers yeah shout out to moms bb what's up you're a fucking idiot she is a mother she's a mother now she doesn't work in the industry not yours let's not my mom no no not yours not yours ah all right biz you're the best we love you um and we'll talk maybe before the 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taking oxygen during the game absolute dog what a performance i know when he's out because he uh he elbowed a little oopsie a little oopsie flagrant to dylan harper's face by the way was so funny in that yeah chat thought he was so funny i mean it was clearly just like it was a the right call yeah it should have been a flagrant no he he went after him but but into the edwards this is why the timber wolves like you know when friday night happens and wendy just has a historic night where he just completely he's an alien and dominated that game to a level that they were throwing out like the stats where the only other guys who did what he did were kareem hakeem shack and wendy like that's those are those are the best centers of all time and wendy is in his first playoffs doing shit like this and then sunday night happens and again wendy's out but still this is what the timber rolls are they're just absolute dogs and anthony edwards like on one leg drops 36 and just will not let the timber rolls lose this game and they've like july's randall has not been great and they they still like anthony edwards like i gotta just do this and he did it and it's fucking he's he's the man he's just absolutely awesome to watch and awesome to like see he just he just he has that like killer instinct that even when shit is going bad he's like i'm going to just will myself to a victory here and now we have a series which if you look like big picture the timber rolls and spurs are just going to kick the shit out of each other and then the thunder are going to kill whoever's like battered because the thunder are going to be have a whole entire week off but i don't care because this has been a fun series to watch i think no matter who the great so here's where i've ended up because i i picked the nuggets in six against the timber wolves in the first round i felt pretty confident about that and then i learned my lesson i was like i think that the timber wolves can beat the spurs i don't know that they will but i think that they can because i'm done i'm done um doubting the timber wolves after everything they've done and it feels like the last three playoffs you know every year every single year is an underdog they they crushed somebody and i feel like the timber wolves might be the team that would give the thunder the best push in these playoffs just because i feel i've seen them do it again and again and again against supposedly you know outmatched opponents so i feel like the if they can beat the spurs i think that might be our best recipe for the uh to have like a close western conference finals yes hank you're wearing the nba hat though you're you're a league guy league would you say that the best case scenario for the finals is spurs nicks um little 99 throwback no are you talking about ratings yeah no i think it'd be lakers nicks well yeah okay technically still alive so gotcha he's right on that yeah he's 100 you're counting lebron out yeah i am yeah that was really that was just my thought as a sports junkie regardless my own sport i play yeah nobody would be realistically the best ratings yes the realistic scenario of the the spurs with wimby against the new york nicks yeah i think that's it also dylan harper was awesome when he had to step in and just he he was great i mean the spurs are really good it's just yeah when he's got a not elbow people's heads off i there's no way he gets suspended right no i don't think so but there has been precedent for this type of run our test remember run our tests like almost took jam's hardens like head clear but the high it was regular season different but i think his elbow started to bump at people's heads it's different yeah and run our tests also did have you know a history at that point to where it was like all right we're gonna we're gonna get him anyway i it was it was a weird play because it was they they didn't call the foul beforehand but then when be still you can't you can't do that no i mean he got he got pushed a little bit he did kind of snap i don't know what the monks have been teaching him i feel like monks are non-violent by nature right so like that yeah he should figure out as a frenchman his first instinct should be to not fight back he also should learn the rules because he had no idea what the flag yes it gets you safe legroom too yeah what is this we're gonna sit back what do you mean i'm not playing anymore i i would expect a incredible wendy game uh five coming up yeah i i think so um memes i saw i saw i think you tweeted out about this is it true that shampagney that he's on the spurs because the sixers cut him well maybe you come like a little bit close to pronouncing his name right it would just like a little bit close all right go ahead shampagney nope shampagney nope shampagney nope shampagney nope shampagney nope shampanya shampanya it's the question memes slash max i have no idea what you're talking about he said what do you mean you have no idea you you tweeted it out i don't think so i thought it was you wasn't me i get i get fucked up sometimes from pmt stats it might have been that same same that will get me every now let me let me look this up i because that guy he actually rocks yes and you know why he's not a sixer pft right you're fucking guy mac mclung yeah they dropped him to add mac mclung that's right active roster so that he could compete in the dunk contest yep that's kind of crazy and your guy josh harris yeah you're right it was pmt stats good job pmt stats that's a fun pmt stat yeah he does get me sometimes he's a good dude uh but yeah this is this is kind of this is the series we have to cling on to when it comes to envy a playoffs right now it's been great tuesday night so we what's the what did they bump up the time for this game because of uh no other game hopefully so seven o'clock there we go get excited when yeah wemby's gonna you know i mean getting a little just take it out of this game he's got it he's got it he's gonna be fresh i should have to not read for just like for taking that like a champ too oh yeah dogs it's a yeah this is just dogs everyone on the timberwolves is a dog so jade mcdaniels is a dog oh my god being like i oh my god the nuggets suck at defense uh yoke it sucks at defense murray sucks at defense every he just backed it up he called him all out by name yeah and then yeah he proved that they suck at defense at the words leg went backwards there was a the realistic timeline was for him to not play in this series yeah he's played every game he's basically like yeah i'll just rehab on the fly mm okay good show boys um pj championship yeah this week shame bacon on wednesday major is that in uh major philly philie f**king philly max took his prom pictures day it's true is it golf town philly not not a basketball town that'd be funny if there's just a bunch of ping-pongs going off by the way i asked jerry o'Connell uh if you wanted to if you had a statement he said i said nixon four eight days ago i'm on to okc was last week nothing to say okay so he's yeah he called the shot jerry was very right yeah he said it almost immediately he's right mr bing bong he's right hey shame chain you ready to get charged up i'm always charged up are you ready are you ready where's it gonna go i mean probably in the rafters 43 i bought a 43 foot long get charged up banner wherever it is i'll be there i'm ready for the unveiling yeah i think you got to do the unveiling me yeah what do you mean i can do that that'd be that'd be the honor of a lifetime there we go get charged up bro the whole office get charged up oh we're all getting bolted that's what i'm talking about every day you're gonna walk in you're gonna be like oh shit i forgot to get charged up facts right right bolt up hell yeah if anybody from the from the washington mystics knows where to get our hands on the w nba attendance champion i will purchase them i would love to have six of them maybe three i i i will buy up to three of them dude i've been trying to get those i want the florida state covid one i want the st joes one just bad banners get let us know we're we're in the market for i want this whole office to just become a basically a sports museum where everyone's like oh i guess that's cool we're like you're like you're like oh okay i get yeah i guess the bill is trough school a lot of that reaction nothing nothing to be like oh my god you have that no yeah oh all right yeah how much did you pay for that a lot of that i want that i want the whole museum to be like that maybe that's the name of the museum the how much did you pay for that oh so also shout out the four aces if they have a championship band or live virginia yeah team win yes what would they get rid of that hang i don't know if they're maybe they make double and they make one make two okay all right yeah and i think that the bills i think that they had oj simpson's jersey retired for like 40 years we'll take it but then they unretired it um but at some point they had to have a banner saying it was retired right yeah we would take that we'll take it uh okay numbers four 15 14 why'd you say four four eight six eighteen double sweet what about a statue can we get a statue yeah i actually boys i i would 100 by the jopah statue i think it would be a great statement piece i think hey listen i know i know there's controversy around it but imagine you walk in in the jopah statue right there i would love it holy shit that's a fucking that you don't have to do small talk when you got the jopah statue you're bam you're in the conversation you're you're you're putting you're you're doing the john taffer stress test on guests instantly what do you think about that oh man all right uh 77 how sick would that be though 11 we just had it when you walk in the front door i i think they're bringing it back i don't think they're selling it they're waiting they're waiting it oh yeah you want to see what i am trying to buy like another 20 years and they're gonna be like yeah we're gonna bring this back 63 uh 63 max can you can you pull up uh the it's called the nails tails uh statue it's from uh madison from wisconsin we had this statue up for like 10 years and then they took it down and it hasn't been seen they said they were putting it somewhere else pft look at this it's a penis shaped statue 43 feet tall of football that's all football that's football dude where were you what was it for we'll just find a place where was it made 43 feet it was just made it was put in front of camp randall it's there for a while it's been taken down look at that look at all the footballs pft people why did they i don't understand why they won built in the first place in the art but why would they take it down it's supposed to be like the art of like the the struggle of football uh i don't know why they took it down but i'm trying to find it could you imagine if we had this it looks kind of like a football but plug how sick would that be yeah imagine if we had this 43 where would this go we could figure it out oh there's one other statue i was thinking about the other day why can we try to track down the uh subway statue that they made of robert griffin out of out of deli meat i don't pay them just deli meat yeah no look it up look it up i don't i don't know what it's actually made out of i think it's deli meat it's a subway yeah where would it look at that thing it's deli meat where can we get that does that still exist we have to i i don't think it exists anymore it's deli meat you can't destroy that though yeah pft it doesn't it's it's either all you make that out in its art and i don't think in anyone in good conscience could destroy that you're like asking for like an ice statue yeah you're asking for like hey did anyone got that sandwich i was eating 10 years ago they like leave it you can't you can't put that sandwich outdoors because birds will eat i had a chicken parm at where where to go yeah yeah no i don't think we can i mean maybe who knows robert let us know nail all right one more 15 11 same number 77 also pre a pre happy birthday coming up on thursday thursday's max homa's birthday oh hell yeah on a major thursday happy birthday max in advance 81 81 anyone anyone also uh can we do a uh happy birthday because they literally were born i think two days ago la one la one la one you didn't see la one no yeah which la one la mello's son oh no you named him la one la one is his name la one i had to look at this shut up so many times thinking that i was getting sentaled pop the champ agni la one how sick is that la one is an incredible name so his name is la one ball yeah that's fucking awesome la one ball i can't be real that's no way but then the real i just i stared at it like i it was i saw the mba central tweeted it and i stared at the twitter account for 10 minutes being like in my miss it's sento right it's got to be sento la one happy birthday la one oh my god every day super harper uh happy birthday to cam newton and matt linert and billy bean money ball and also tuesday is steve smith noted and mobala and jonah lomo maybe the best rugby player ever ever to play love you guys music