My Secret Santa

He knows when you are sleeping. He knows when you're awake. He knows if you've been bad or good. Because he's a she and she's your mom. We saw my secret Santa so you know what that means. Hello people of Earth and welcome to How Did This Get Made? Another Christmas episode. That's right. We are celebrating this month of Christmas with a Netflix original. Jason Manzookas recommend. I mean, Jason's picks. This is, yes, this is, I will admit, this is a classic me boondoggle. Simply by my passing awareness of this movie, I've now talked about it enough that we had to watch it. Well, I gotta say, you picked a good one because this came out in 2025. The logline is, Taylor disguises herself as Santa at a resort to fund her daughter's ski lessons, working with the charming manager Matthew as she finds holiday cheer and a chance at love admits challenges. Now, here, yes. Are you gonna say something about that description, Paul? No, please, you can jump in. I have two things to say before we move forward, but please just, yeah, jump in. Okay, this is my fundamental issue with this movie. Is that sentence disguises herself as Santa? Right, yes. Okay, anyone and obviously parents turn this off. This is a little advisory. Turn this off right now if you have little kids. If you are working as a Santa, you are disguising yourself as Santa no matter what. Yes, right. Yes. This movie actually like it borders on horror to me because it posits a world in which we actually believe that the Santas who are showing up for these villages and malls and different plazas and lobbies are Santa? No, no, you know. Or not Santa entirely. No, you know, thank you for correcting me. But something, but we don't in this world want to Santa, well, certainly don't want a female Santa, but we want to know that our Santas, what is it exactly? What is it? What we're not, what the movie is not interested in letting you in on or interrogating is who is Hugh Mann. Right. Like, so, so Taylor is both playing a man named Hugh Mann, who is playing Santa Claus. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Now, the reality is, in the movie, she is almost always in Santa mode. Okay. So we very rarely see Hugh Mann. And why doesn't anyone else in this world, this is my main issue question. Why doesn't she talk to the teenage girl as Hugh Mann? Like, I'm off my shift. I'm now Hugh Mann. Well, here's the issue, in my opinion. There are no stakes because the idea is solid. Like, oh, let's do Mrs. Doubtfire as a holiday movie. Like a reverse mis... This would be if in Mrs. Doubtfire, the Robin Williams dressed up as Mrs. Doubtfire. And but wasn't the husband... Who then... That would be the, that would be the stakes. Who then dressed up as someone else. You know what I mean? But like the stakes would be... Paul, why does Taylor, this is a serious fucking question, why does Taylor not show up as herself to the Santa audition? And say, give me one moment, I'll be right back. As Hugh Mann or as Taylor? No, Jason. Okay. Why can't Taylor go say, hi, leave so much for the audition. I'm going to just go change into costume. I just... June, the movie is interrogating our misogyny. The patriarchy. In hiring, yes, in hiring men as Santa performers in hotels and malls. This is absolutely a movie that is representing how controlled, how the patriarchy is still so in power, especially in our most significant holidays. By the way, though, you, you did bring up a good point because I think that if you added a scene where she tried to get that job and couldn't get it because she was a woman. I needed that scene. But she just went to, I need to create an alternative persona. Which made me think she was insane. And here's the thing, Hugh Mann, and this is why the whole movie really falls apart, has to get a check that is going to go to Taylor Jacobson, right? Like, like, she didn't think the crime through at all. Because there's also a line at the end when it's all revealed, we got a booker on trespassing and this. And then I'm like, why? Why? Why? She was doing the job. You were hiring. She didn't in any way not do the job that she was hired to do. It would have been so fun if in the, in the period where she, because the movie is setting up the kind of farce, the farce elements of, oh, now she's Taylor. And now she's Santa and, and oh no, she's bouncing between people who are expecting her to be different things, blah, blah, blah. Wouldn't it have been so fun if, if she also had to juggle the third persona, Hugh Mann? Well, Hugh Mann, why? I wish so much that Hugh Mann had started a romance with the neighbor. But see, there's only one time we see Hugh Mann. Twice. Yes. No, Paul, we see. Oh, Paul. Oh, Paul. My balloons are going. Our balloons going up your screen. What was that? You got to give the peace sign. It was the peace sign? Yeah. Nice try. I don't know why that. So here's the thing. Yeah. As far as I can call. We see Hugh Mann three times, actually. Wait, no, we see Hugh Mann when Hugh Mann shows up for the audition, which I know why she doesn't. Yeah. Why she doesn't show up in Santa costume. Again, it is the perception of Santa is so strange in this movie because she knows that she shouldn't show up in her suit that that somehow is too much. Well, but also many of the men auditioning to be Santa are really half assing it. Like one guy has his beard down around his like chin. Like they look like they put up. Yeah. Also, they all all the possible Santas might. I mean, listen, maybe I'm just not aware of the, you know, the Santa industrial complex, but like mustn't the organization have the Santa outfit. Does every Santa have his own suit? Well, that that is true. Any Santa. Wow. Yeah. Any Santa worth their salt. There's there's subcontractors. Okay. Right. You know, there's no. I apologize. That's okay. But it's like a makeup artist. Like you have to come with your own kit. Maybe they get a kit fee. Like maybe they get a costume fee to dry. They rent their stuff to the. That's possible. But here's the thing. I mean, there's so many things wrong with the whole Santa industrial complex. But I also don't believe that our lead Taylor Jacobson is a smart person as we we understand her to be. I guess a well, her job is a baking overseer. Like she like she's like runs the factory line at store at a store bought cookie plant. Like, so what? Like we don't even know what her like what she's good at clouds cookies. It's almost claws cookies. Oh, I didn't put that together. It's like it's so close to claws that I was like, wait, is this a Santa related business? She's making and she also gets fired. The manager comes up and says, Hey, can I talk to you for a second? And rather than step into an office and fire her privately, they take five steps away from everybody and he fires her in front of the staff. Yes. Who are all watching? She should be fired because why do you need a person looking at like the frosting control? So here's the thing. She is and this is so interesting that they set her up this way because I think the movie wants us to believe that she's sort of a part of the Santa industrial complex even before she steps into the role because she knows and what Santa should look like. And that's part of why that opening scene with that cookie was important because she didn't feel like he was jolly. But yet she said she has no rest. But she's depressed. That was a little bit of a Worshack test for her. I mean, a truly, truly physician heal thyself. You know, it really when she said this Santa looks depressed, I was like, what is going on? Well, I mean, up until then, I mean, with the exception of that one scene, we don't know her to be particularly interested in Christmas, particularly like festive or like Santa curious. Yeah, like, it's great. But then later on, Jason, because I just finished this movie one minute ago. Okay. At the very end, he says, I'm going to get into Matthew, but he says something along the lines of like, you know, Christmas, like you. Well, because he because she figured out that Christmas isn't about bankrupting your parents. It's about like the spirit of Christmas night. That's what she brought to the Santa character, which is the unwillingness to give kids what they want. She's like, I'm not going to give you what you want. I'm going to give you what you need. And that's what originally turns out bad. Like, I mean, this Santa, the hard truth Santa that is like, you know, that's going to make a mess and your parents aren't going to like that. Or I know your your mom's a waitress. She can't afford that. Like what if Santa was a mom? That's what she brings to Santa, which is a revolutionary idea in the world of Santa. What if Santa was a mom? What if Santa was a mom? Now that's by the way, Santa Santa is a mom. Okay. Mom's are doing Christmas. Okay. Well, hold on now. I don't think I'm saying you aren't there, but I'm saying in general, when people talk about the magic of holidays and I'm not Paul Sheer, I'm not including you in this. Thank you. I know that the labor of Santa is magic of Christmas. Oh, so you're taking done by women. So you're taking this work away from the elves and giving it to women. But that's what drives me crazy is like, well, moms are already doing Christmas. Yes, but but moms are not redefining who Santa regardless of who is doing the work. The idea is that, ho, ho, ho, whatever you want, I'll get you like that. I've never, we've seen several Santa performers in our day. Oh yeah. If anything, I found them all to be pretty like judicious about and diplomatic about what they said. They don't say you can get, you can have that. They say, well, I hope because I think they got in trouble for that. By who? By the Santa industrial complex because I think. Yes, because I think that when kids stopped asking for like trains and cars and these are at ask for PlayStation 5's like something. Like somebody who worked at the mall or the hotel would, by the way, I want to get into the hotel. This hotel, this hotel is so shitty. So much of the movie, so much of the movie is just shot in a hotel ballroom. It's amazing. It's so shitty. The fact that we're supposed to believe this is like a gazillionaire and they have all of these major properties throughout the world. Like this hotel. It's not even booked for Christmas. It's not even fully booked. The Instagram retweets have booked it full for Christmas. Like it was coming into the month empty. So whatever they were doing wasn't already working. What is interesting is the movie isn't into Taylor, rather. Yeah. Isn't interested in being Santa. No. She doesn't want to be Santa in some way to be like, I love Santa or I love Christmas. She just wants the half off employee discount for her daughter's snowboard education. Which again would mean that on some certificate, she's also forged that Hugh Mann is the father or grandfather of her daughter. Which I don't know if they got into that in particular. I don't even thought of that. Honestly, honestly, the end of the movie. I mean, Taylor is so irresponsible. The end of the movie could very easily end with her in jail and her daughter in child in foster care. But could but now I guess the question is we don't know where her the father is and and Taylor is doing so many illegal activities. Well, she's just trying to get her daughter snowboard lessons. That's the other thing that's tough. Half off. I'm just trying to get my kid. I don't know. There was something about skiing and snowboarding. It's such a rich, very rich person's sport that it was hard for me to emotionally connect to like she can't go to snowboarding school. She's in a snow town. I imagine the pressure of growing up as a regular person in a snow town as you put it, Paul, is difficult. Well, she's getting bullied quite a bit by the rich click who are making fun of her out of date snowboard gear and clothes. They're making fun of the fact that her mom drives around a kid nappers 1980s kid nappers van. I mean, I also want to argue, though, that the rich kid in this movie is the daughter of the manager of the hotel. So it also it also does paint the picture that the manager of the hotel is making bang boo boo bucks. I mean, she's not even the manager. She's in line to be the manager. And then, you know, Matthew comes over and takes her spot. By the way, that's Tina, Tia, Maori, which, you know, great casting there. I love the cast of this. I was all on board. Everybody was great. Can I tell you the whole time? The whole time I was watching this, especially in the especially in the big Christmas party scene when she's going back and forth at Santa. Which about 12 to 15 people were at. Yes, exactly. But the whole time I'm watching that, I'm like, why? Why isn't this movie, Tia and Tamara actually playing Santa and Taylor and going back and forth? Like that's interesting to me. Well, to me, though, what I was thinking during that party scene was this again, if we're looking at the model of Mrs. Doubtfire, right, there's stakes there because he is the ex husband of Sally Field, and he has to pretend to be the nanny to be close to his kids. Right. But in this, she is friends with makeup artists, just like Harvey Fierce. Her brother. One brother. Yes, one. Not even makeup artists, guys who like Halloween. That really is the other. Yeah, we need to stop there because that. Okay, they have an entire studio devoted to like masks. The entire living room is just making. They're making mission impossible level masks that are so, I mean, so good. And so they are doing their face scans. You know, I mean, Halloween. Now, what's also for their Halloween costume. Not for not for any like, they're in like Telluride, Colorado, right. And they're in like a small town, a small ski town. They're going out to a, a Halloween Halloween party in that costume and then they're starting all over again. And they have, I'm going to say quite literally $30,000 worth of special effects equipment at a minimum 3D printers, facial scan devices. They've got crazy stuff. Well, this is what brings up, this is the issue that I have and it gets, it rocks me to my core. I was like, here is the moment that you could actually make this movie work in a different way, which is those guys create masks for a living. Why don't you just living for a hobby? Okay. Sorry. Yes. Sorry for a hobby. Why don't you just dress one of them up like Hugh Mann, great for the party. And then she could be there too, because all you have to do is go ho, ho, ho. You think they could all you have to do. You think they can capture that. Well, is it the magic of human? Well, because I don't know if Hugh Mann, I don't know if Hugh Mann actually has a personality because Mrs. Doubtfire has a personality, right? Oh, hello. And she talks, but you know, but Hugh Mann. It is the magic of Hugh Mann because Hugh Mann listens. Well, where does Hugh Mann end and where does Santa begin? I don't think that Hugh Mann is a part of it. I don't think that Hugh Mann is. I think we really, the person that I really desired to know more was Hugh Mann. I wish there had been a scene where the neighbor, the horny landlord and the and Taylor dressed as Hugh Mann have to have like a glass of wine. I wish there had been like two to three more scenes with Taylor as Hugh Mann, not as Santa. Hugh Mann only really does the work of Taylor. Yes. Right. Like Hugh Mann is just saying what Taylor would say if Taylor wasn't there, right? She's like, well, listen to your mother. Yeah. You know, it's like that. Like Hugh Mann is not really engaging. Oh, I get it. Oh, I finally get it. Hugh Mann is method. Okay. All right. So for this period of time, Hugh Mann is Santa. Then why didn't Hugh Mann show up to the fucking audition in his suit? Good call. Okay. So you're saying it sounds to me like you're saying that Hugh Mann is weak sauce. Yes. Probably the weakest actor in SAG. June, be very careful if you agree to this. This is going to get you a lot of trouble on that. No, I totally agree. I was so mad. It's like you are so concerned. You've gone to all these lengths to do this, Mass. You must have been hair and makeup for hours. And then it's the day of the audition. A, you're late. B, you're not in your costume yet. The fuck out of here. But books the job. Of course. Learning all the wrong lessons. Books the job. I think the reason why you want to hire Hugh Mann is because he, he doesn't need a costume. Hugh Mann just puts on the red and he's Santa. Like Hugh Mann looks like Santa. Like, and I think that that is the key to most professional Santas. They have the beard. They have the hair and it's a cultivated look. It's not wiggy. It's not any of that. Now, yes, Hugh Mann is always all wigs. And that was full mass. But I think that's why they have to put him next to all the people. Look, Hugh Mann looks good. Hugh Mann slash Taylor slash Santa looked great in every shot. Yeah, we got. Well, here's the problem with the movie, though. And by the way, I really did like that actress, but I do think the problem is she is set up. We're being told by several people that she is like a, you know, sad sack kind of cat lady type person. I never saw that. She's also like the former lead singer, guitarist of a punk rubber band. But I never saw this person that was like organizing her socks alphabetically, which by the way, how? Yeah. Well, again, we're getting into a socks discussion. I know we don't want to go back to the. But how do you organize socks alphabetically? We are talking. We're talking. We're getting into socks so much lately. So would you rather sort your socks alphabetically and is it by color? What does that mean by color or by red? Like, do you mean the first letter of each color? That's what I'm saying. I don't even know what that would mean. But also who organizes socks? Well, I guess. Okay. So I have a pair. I have some Adidas socks and I have some Nike socks and they have a logo on it. They don't have the words on it. But if I would say, all right, those are my Nike socks. I'm going to line them up in the Nike area of my sock drawer. Yeah. But then, but I don't know. I'm trying to put it all together. The only way. Bombas would go in the front. The only way to organize socks is by type. You got to index them by type. Okay. So you're talking about, you're talking about like ankle sock. You're talking about. Yeah. Athletic socks, dress socks. Compression. Equal socks, compression, airplane socks. They're all going by type. Now I have my dress socks in a different drawer than my athletic socks. I think that makes sense because you probably wear them very infrequently. Yes. That's fine. But again, how could you ever approach them alphabetically? It's not a system. It's insanity. It's literally like insane. Look, she has nothing. And it's referenced twice in this movie. Taylor is a local celebrity sometimes. And sometimes is a complete unknown in a town that appears to have, I'm going to say, I'm maybe conservatively 400 residents. Yeah. And if she is a local celebrity. Made one album. From Screaming Kittens. From that crazy Screaming, her Screaming Kittens era. Yeah. How is it possible that her daughter doesn't know? The album is in the house. Exactly. Like they have the worst relationship. They have a terrible relationship because I wish they had had a Gilmore girls. It's the two of us. We're a team vibe in it. Like we're Taylor. What's the daughter's name? Zoe. Zoe. Yes. So we're they're so close in age. They're so young. Like they had an opportunity to have a Gilmore girls' esk vibe between the two of them, but they don't. And nor do they have a very like strained or they feel like they're very apart. They feel like strangers to each other. Like roommates. Yeah. Coexisting. Yes. So I also think you're seeing that on the father and son side with Matthew and his dad. Like they don't seem to be that much in each other's lives. So much so that Matthew just kind of surprises his dad by returning home. His dad did not know he was going to be there. The fact that they cast this man as a nerd. Free spirit. Like free spirit. And a free spirit. Is the most it was the most absurd thing I've ever seen in my life. He crashed his car into a statue in Italy and his dad says, well, now you must work as the resort manager to pay off the accident debt. Yeah. He's basically like, I'm not going to give you the money to fix this. I'm going to make you work for it. But he is not like a bad boy. Like who would believe like at what point he has. And that hounds tooth like French looking coat. If we're supposed to believe he is like this bad like kid. It's an. Why is the thing that he does is not check references. Yeah. Like that's the like that's the most like he seems to me a guy who immediately fits in like he understands the paperwork. He's not getting drunk. We don't bump into him at a bar. He is a he's getting hot cocoa. Oh my God. The hot cocoa shit is so out of control. It's so funny. And the end the thing that he if I looked at the entire cast of this movie, the one person I would think absolutely knows how to tie a neck tie is this guy. And he's the one that's like, I never know how to do these. I'm a guitar guy. I'm like free spirit. I'm an art. I was like, you are not. Why are they making him a guitar guy? Yeah. Why are they make? Why would you take the one thing that our lead does well, which is play and sing and go, well, you know what he does too. This guy actually plays and sings and he's jumping up at local bars. Like you take away the superpower of your lead by making the romantic interest have the same superpower. But why not just put him in a leather jacket or something in the beginning or just yeah, I was so drawn by that look. I was so in the short hair. I just and the trimmed beard. Yeah. He doesn't look scruffy. He doesn't look uncanny. He doesn't look like a bad boy. He's not riding a motorcycle. He's supposed to be like a McConaughey. He looks like he's running a startup. He does their on vacation. Like I would have, I would believe it more if he was being irresponsible. Like he started a startup and it failed rather than he's like a drunk who got who drove a car into a fountain in Italy or whatever. To me, the better story would be, hey, let's go get a beer. And she's like, it's 10 a.m. I'll get a hot chocolate. And he's like, I don't drink hot chocolate. And at the end he's like, let's go get a hot chocolate. Like she's changed him. But few man is the one who's drinking. Few man is the one who is another flaming candy cane. I mean, this guy's shopping for discount records. I mean, like he's not doing. I love that though. I'm like, oh, yes, have a meat cute at the record store and blah, blah, blah. But he does not belong in that store at all. Never mind that he's like, don't you know the screaming kittens? I loved this band and blah, blah, blah, you know, absolutely not. But like what by the way though, like seriously, what happened in Italy? Yeah, what's going on with him? And I know he lost his mom at 15 and I know it was sudden. I know that was hard and I was so much sympathy for it. I feel like that gentleman we saw on screen is 4045. Yeah. So it's like I, my heart goes out to you, but that's that was a long time. Well, very long time. You can't still be on a bender from that. But June, I guess the question I'm going to ask you is how much do we know of that from Matthew versus his dad? His dad is the one who labels him. Matthew never is like, I'm a bad boy. Well, but Matthew is validating. That's like something very bad happened in Italy. Well, he crashed into the statue and he's also saying that he's a free spirit. And he doesn't work jobs like this. This is his dad's stuff. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like I wouldn't have known about all this paperwork. That's what he really seems to be. Yes. Like, you know, that, that's. I'm signing things all day. But what would I guess here's my question. What, what does Matthew want to do for a living? Who knows. Be an artist. Great question. He doesn't know at once again, we have people that are so old acting like I just am 41. 41 is his age, by the way. That's fine. But like, but here's, but here's the thing that's so very odd about this movie. I don't know what anyone's dreams are and I understand her dream is for her daughter and that's fine. But like, I don't understand by the end if him being the general manager and her being the executive director of family events is a good thing or not. I don't know. The movie tells you it's, it is. Yeah. I believe. What is it? I mean, I think the movie is saying like, Hey, remember all those dreams you had? They're not going to happen. So maybe you can be happy doing. Craft nights. Yes. Craft nights at the resort. I don't know. I don't know. This is the other detail we had about him that I like, I was really fucked up by one point. The dad says when he's like recounting all these bad things that Matthew did that he was swimming with swans. Well, yeah, you feel like he got drunk and he jumped into like some sort of decorative swan thing. I thought that imagery was actually interesting. What's also interesting is the real swans in the fountain that he crashed into. Like, I heard that as a totally separate event. Oh, I did too. Yeah, I thought there's another. Oh, that fountain. So it's all about that one fountain he crashed into. Oh, you might be right. Maybe there's, maybe he has a litany of disastrous moves. But what's interesting is everybody in town knows he's this public fuckup. So he's like, he feels like he's a, like somebody who's being reported on in like page six or something. You know, like, like some sort of famous, like rich, trust fund married way. He's like the sexy billionaires cause in all these trouble. I did laugh when the brother said I could be the brother-in-law of a son of a billionaire. I mean, I really did. That was my favorite line. I think they are the Hilton type of a family or something. I think they are the Hilton's, but that hotel gave such kind of like iconolog vibes to me. And there are versions of the Hilton that are like, you know, there's, they can scale up or scale down, but I do feel like we can trust the brand a little bit more. And this felt so hot spot. I just want to take a little bit of, I want to just talk to you from all the people out there who clean hotel carpets. Can you imagine trying to keep a place like that clean with all those snow boots, trucking in all that wetness? Like that, that's a, that hotel is kept very, very clean. And I will say you give it a little bit more credit for, you know, the entryway. I'm not saying it's dirty. I'm really not. It is just so outdated. The locker room I was not okay with. The locker room was rough. The locker room, I want to talk about the locker room for so long because for a movie that won't allow its romantic leads to really drink alcohol that much. Like they have to be so like hot cocoa and, you know, like no real kissing. No, like they have to be so weirdly pure and chased for one whole sequence to be she's dressed up in San and as human just looking at dicks in the locker room. She sees his dick. He drops his towel immediately in the locker room while they're chatting. I have to ask. Because I'm not a man, obviously. Well, don't know. Like, are you human? No, no, I would have loved the opportunity to be human. Human also went into a woman's bathroom as well. And I didn't make a big deal out of it. It was like whatever he chose, he chose. You know, but this is the thing. What's to stop women from dressing as Santa to get into men's bathroom? This has been something that. Someone passed the bill. I don't know. I don't know like what locker room. I don't know what goes on, what all goes on in there. But like if you were in there and Santa, right, Santa performer came up to you or even let's say you'd someone you were an acquaintance of. Would you drop your towel like that? Paul. Here's what I would say. I saw Jason shake his head. There's a lot of locker room behavior that is not universally accepted. It's not like there's one way of being. I have been in locker rooms where people are going to just fucking be out there. Out and free. Yep. And then I'm going to be next to people who are so tidied up and wrapped up that you're in that. You can't even get a peek if you wanted to. Exactly. There is a pilot season where I joined the YMCA in Hollywood, just the one right there in Hollywood that we've all driven by a million times. And that locker room was naked dudes hanging out, chit chatting, talking on phones, nude, walking around, walking over there to do full lotion set up at the lotion station, walking over there just in their flip flops. When I was a kid, our locker rooms for gym were divided just by a cement wall. And there was a small hole in the wall that we would all peer through, but it was only at the point where the... Paul. Wait, what? Back in my younger school, when I went to the school from kindergarten to fourth or fifth grade, our locker rooms were... Oh, so very young. Yes. There was a wall. There was a wall that was separate. Paul, what? No, no. And so we would all be trying to sneak a peek at the girls' locker. Why are you sneaking in fourth grade and third grade? That's so weird. Because in my... When I was growing up, porkies was big and all you saw was that kid with his eye up against that eye hole. That's true. You're like, that's what you thought you did. But where the hole was was the separation between the wash area and the dressing area, like the sinks. So there was no... There was never saw anyone. I want to back Paul up in the sense that like, yes. Yes, thank you. Like porkies and things like that gave us, in our childhood, established for us a world in which if you saw a hole in a wall, no matter where you were in the world, you looked through it in case there was boobs on the other side of it. You were fumping. For reasons that you didn't know. Exactly. Like I don't even know if it was titillating. It was like, oh my gosh, this is the dream that there would be a hole in the wall that I can now see. And I know that there's a possibility that there are rooms in this building with boobs in them. Maybe on the other side of this wall is one of them. And I look back on my childhood and honestly, even right now, I want to remind myself, like I should be looking for holes and walls all the time. All the time. All the time. I'm traveling with like a little roll of duct tape everywhere I go to just cover up the holes. I mean, look, the psycho is based on that whole idea. No, it is true in hotel rooms and stuff. Like I do know some women look around for holes. I just can't, I can't, there's only so much I can be concerned about in this lifetime. Well, after you got it, first you do your bed bug check, then you do your hole check, then you do your secret camera check, and then you check if all the mirrors are actual mirrors rather than two-way mirrors. So, and then you check out. Here's what I'll say. What I love about this movie is that when Matthew gets up to present the human at the tree lighting ceremony, he is heckled in a way that made me laugh harder than anything. I was like, hey, didn't see you on a fountain, motherfucker. Like he is being roasted by the town, which I think actually helped me. Like I just like that this town was so aggro. That's the tree. This is a kid tree lighting ceremony. He has neither the temperament of the free spirit kind of artists, maybe like like Nairdhutwal. He neither has that temperament, nor does he have the trust fund rich dick entitled vibe to him. Right. He is just awkward. He doesn't feel like he belongs and he feels out of place. So he's stammering through his speeches. He's like, he's just an awkward guy. So I kept being like, why are we into him? I don't know. I also loved in the locker room scene that when because of the locker room setup, we see he has a bunch of tattoos. I love that about him. Yes. Here's the thing, like I don't, I think he's nice. And so that's, that's great. But I also couldn't tell why she was that into him because he didn't seem to have much of a personality. But I, but then I went back and remember the locker room scene. She saw something. Oh, she did. She sure did. She saw something. She saw something that honestly put, put a magical Christmas spell on her. Oh yeah. That's the only reason because he is very, very bland. They both are right. They're both dull. I thought she has a lot of life. I mean, like as characters, as characters, you know what I mean? Like I'm not saying this about the actors. I'm saying they both feel aimless. Yeah. Both of them, both of them, neither of them are striving towards anything. They are both just kind of treading water. Well, yeah, I think they're both trying to find their anchor, which I think is each other. They are both, you know, they're both looking for something to ground them where they need to be. Like keep them there. You know, they're, they are, they're both drift. You know what I needed? I needed a scene in which we understood what it was like for her as a single mom in Lincoln and how like the pressures of having your kid in a rich town and being the poor worker in that town and how your kid wants to get along with all these other rich kids, but you can't provide that. That's really interesting to me and compelling. Great. I love this. Yes. I love the vibe and that understanding that she's operating in a very rich town from a position of scarcity. Right. So then I would need to know that that's what she's bringing to Santa, her work as human, that that sort of, but instead like she's, it made me think also that everybody in this small town is on the same economic level as her, which for a ski town simply doesn't make sense. No, no. They could afford all the things that they are asking for. Yes. Well, I mean, I think she's also trying to teach lessons, but I don't understand that. I guess I don't understand where like nobody is on an arc that I'm understanding. You know what I mean? So nobody, nobody at the end of the movie isn't okay. I'm glad they have fallen in love with each other, but the process has not. The process has really only made it seem as though they both are more comfortable because they have found each other. They're more comfortable settling rather than figuring out the story, rather than figuring out who they are as individuals and how to be happy as themselves and then love themselves and then share that self with someone else. They are clinging to each other as the answer to their lost and aimless lives. I have found someone who validates my limitations and my giving up. And by the way, what I also really needed to understand is like, does Zoe like this man? Who cares about Zoe? She's paralyzed after this. She is like, she's hurt. She's like, she's hurt and then, and, and they leave the big Christmas party and, and Taylor's dressed as Santa Claus and she runs to her daughter's side. And, but like, and maybe it's just because once they get there where it's clear the daughter is going to be okay is, is, you know, perhaps. She does not look okay. She looks very interesting. She's on a, she's on a, she's got in a neck brace. She's on a backboard. She doesn't, she's like, Santa, why is Santa talking to me? I was like, at this point, you'd be able to be like, I think that's my mom. It's my mom. What happens is Taylor and the guy, they have a whole conversation. She should be exclusively talking to the medical personnel about what the diagnosis is. And instead she does her mission impossible tear off the mask reveal. Then she does apologies. Then she tries to, and it like is like, oh, oh, what's that? Your daughter might have a spinal injury. What's the betrayal? The betrayal appears. It seems as though when she rips the mask off, you would think as though people thought she was actual Santa Claus. Well, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I mean. She's being brought up on fraud charges. I mean, what for reveal? What's the fraud? Like we know it's not Santa. So the reveal is that it's Taylor. Oh, okay. And she's also not like, here's the other version of it, right? This resort has a world renowned Santa and he lives in the town. He dies of a heart attack. She hides the heart attack and dresses up as him. So she is pretending to be human. The guy who has been doing Santa there for 20 years. That's a bit true. That's a betrayal. Here, she just really... Well, now she did go into the locker room. Maybe he's upset that she saw him half naked. Yeah. Listen, if I'm this guy, I'm like, hey, man. Hey, man, you saw my dick and you didn't say anything. Like what the fuck? Well, that means that she was still interested in him. Jim, would you care? I mean, the lip gloss that she's carrying around, like I thought when it dropped out a few man's pocket, I was like, oh, that's her daughter's lip gloss because it's got a year. Did they set that up that it was her daughter's? Okay, because even if it is her daughter's though, it's still... No, I think it's hers because later on... No, I know it's hers, but I'm saying it's bizarre that it's hers. Even if it was her daughter's who's 16, it would still be weird because that is the lip gloss of an eight-year-old girl. 100%. Very strange. Very strange. I did want to say that this movie, just to go back to the daughter potentially being incredibly wounded. I do think this movie does a couple of things where it doesn't really highlight any disabilities. Like the daughter could be paralyzed. She's like, I gotta admit, do my apology chore. Now meanwhile, when that girl comes over with a stutter, she's like, I got this. Oh my God, I forgot about the poll. She cures... This movie is yours. Absolutely irresponsible. This is a little irresponsible with it. Sort of like... Like I mean the fact that she cures a stutter and then that video gets thousands of likes, which moves up to a million likes. But that to me was really like an insight, not like, oh, her good heart or her common sense Santa-ing. That's what people want. Parents want to bring their kids here to get kind of slapped in the face by Santa. No, she cures... Like she is a Christ-like figure. It's magic. It becomes like a very soft magical element to enter. Because this is a movie, unlike a lot of the other Christmas movies, there is no magic. There is no like, oh, the nutcracker turned into a man. Or there's not like a magical element to this. But there is a little bit of like the lesson learned is that she, like by accepting the Christmas spirit... I don't know what. She, yes, she's able to do cures. She's able to be so desirable that the billionaire villain dad is like, that's my Santa. When he keeps saying my Santa. That was so weird. But here's the thing that I, I guess I disagree with. To me, this movie had nothing to do with Christmas. Okay, do you tell? I think that this, with the exception of like Santa and the device of Santa, the movie, the stories had nothing to do with Santa. The stories had nothing to do with remembering the reason for the season with all of the Christmas narratives that we hold dear to our heart. It's to settle, babe. It is literally to give up your themes and to settle with whatever life deltja up until this point to accept it. It's time, it's time to settle down, settle down and take responsibility for your actions. And by the way, that could happen anytime of year. She could be Easter Bunny. She could be... I agree. You know, a leprechaun. It could be this is holiday agnostic. Well, for everybody. Yes. For not just for Taylor and Hugh Mann and the Santa Claus character, but for the guy, I can't not remember. Matthew. That whole storyline is also not really on a Christmas trajectory. No, not at all. Well, I think that the issue that this movie has is it is taking place during the holidays, but it's more of a rom-com, right? It's more of a general rom-com. And there's no Christmas spirit. There's no magical ending. The movie doesn't even try to give you one of those like moralistic things. No. We're pulling that out of it. Like the movie doesn't lean there at all. And... It doesn't. When they have their like even the end of movie, a big kind of like, hey, I want to apologize and bup-bup-bup. They're kind of big talk that inexplicably happens on stage in front of a microphone so everybody in town can hear their private conversation. That whole conversation isn't... It's also not about Christmas. It's not about anything. It's really just about, I'm sorry. I lied. It's really just, to your point, rom-com type stuff. Yes. Yes, in a big public setting. And then they sing a song together. Run, run Rudolph. Which is also weird. But like, I mean... I don't know because I think... What if... I think the movie might be trying to tell us that they should both get... This is what's weird. They should both get back into pursuing their dreams together as a news screaming kitten. Now what if... Okay. And sorry, what if the setup of the movie is that they know each other from both growing up in this incredibly small town. She hated him because he was Richie Rich. Like, you know, rude, entitled Richie Rich. Yes. And he always like bullied her the way her daughter is bullied for being the poor kid who blah, blah, blah. And so they were from opposite sides then and now they come... He's now returned to town as an adult. They haven't seen each other in 30 or 20 whatever years, blah, blah, blah. That's a movie that their history informs their present story because right now none of it feels of anything other than so surface level. What if they were in the band together? I mean, or what if he was the one who knocked her up because that's the story, right? She got knocked up, she had to quit the band, all of her life went on hold to take care of her daughter. That's the dramatic monologue in the movie. If he was the one who did it as the party guy, he never came back to town until then. Then if he's the Christopher in the Homework Girls? Maybe he never took responsibility or maybe even better, he didn't know. Because she hated him so much. Here's my question about his work as the general manager. By the way, I know the movie is telling us that Tia is a villain, but I'm watching her the whole time and I'm like, yeah, it's so fucked up that this guy came back with your experience has just been swimming with swans and is taking over your job. This is insane. Don't say it like swimming with swans. What happened there was he got into a car accident, I feel like he ejected out of the front and was thrown in and started swimming around, drunkenly swimming around with swans. But she's at least understanding and trying to protect the business from lawsuits that are no doubt going to come from this rogue Santa. Here's my question though. One of the first tests he has and that she has that Hugh Mann has as Santa is the initial tree lighting. Now, oh yeah, I have a question about this. Yeah. Who who was responsible for setting up the lighting and all the electricity there and did Tia do that on purpose and or did he fuck that up? What actually happened? First of all, let me just say the thing breaks. The thing breaks. Aren't those things ceremonial? Aren't they just ceremonial? Like they're not really like it's not really you're not really putting a candy cane on an electrical outlet there. Like you you move that word backstage and getting on on button. That's all that's happening. Like we're not connecting a giant present to that. Like but they made it like an electrician game there and wired this thing up and they create this moment as if again, you're right. This moment like, uh oh, someone fucked up. But it no, we don't know and nor was it anyone's mistake because he's there too early. He couldn't have planned that or or short changed it. Like we've seen nothing. I don't think so. It's not it's it's it's it's something that purports to be such a big event and in fact a catastrophic failure. Yes. It's also really just an accident that is not the responsibility of anybody there. But was it like his accident in Italy? Oh boy. Do you think he was up there hooking up the electrical stuff? I don't know. It's like I don't know. You think that everything he does he's like I don't care just run it like just go forward. He does say at one point like I'm signing papers. I don't even know what I'm signing. All right. So yeah, so he's hiring he's hiring the wrong people. Okay. Let me ask you this. Don't you think it's pretty weird? The part that I found very difficult to swallow was when Taylor dressed as human dressed as Santa. So Santa Claus when Taylor is Santa Claus when Taylor is speaking with Zoe her daughter. I was like, yeah, this is irresponsible. Zoe would be like, you're my mother. You're my mother. This is my mother. Right. They have I mean, Why doesn't Zoe just ask like how are you paying for this? Yes. Here's a simple solution. Ask your brother to sell a couple of those masks. He has this mission. Great. You have the tuition for this elite snowboarding school. I mean, I also am like, I feel like the movie really wants us to feel like Taylor is like out on the outs. She drives that like really sketchy looking like 1980s era. It must have been her old toy. She's dressed in all black when she's not in Santa. She's dressed in all black all the time. Like she's still like a punk rocker, you know, but I'm I'm with the rock. So so the idea of the movie is neither Taylor nor Matthew have grown up since teenage years at all. They still are who they were then now. Right. I can't. Yeah, sure. Yeah, let's buy that. It's it's so like her daughter is strangely a more three dimensional character to me in many ways. In many ways. You know, when they reveal, by the way, that her daughter's bully is Tia's daughter. Yeah. I was like, what the fuck is happening? Well, that's what I'm saying. Like that moment is when I was like, make any sense. Yeah, I was like, oh, so and then and the daughter had to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, she actually is a good person. But I was like, does Tia actually have an issue with that? And by the way, it does seem now that it will become so clear that she didn't really have any injuries. They were so minor. Yeah, only has like a sling on her a couple days later, it seems, which seems that they were supporting the wrong part of her body when they put her on that. But Tia, when her daughter asks like, do you have anything? Is she going to be okay? The way Tia answers that question is like, she's on the verge of death. Like she's not going to. She's like, she has great doctors taking care of her. What? They're doing everything they can. Like she's fine. Yeah. Well, I will say Tia's character in this is so overly dramatic about everything. That's true. In a way that is like, in a way that is good because she uncovers truly like the fraud of the movie by doing some light Googling. On, on Jason, on. Not Googling. Last resort. I believe it was called Look Path. Look Path. Wow. Look Path. Can I just say something too that I had an issue with? Seek Trail. I don't feel there was so much kind of managing of Hugh Manne as Santa, as a Santa performer, like people are checking in on him. People are watching him. The interactions with the children seem to go on forever. I don't know that like anyone needs that level of interaction for Miss Santa. You're usually pushed in there. They say, what do you want for Christmas? You say one thing. They say Merry Christmas and they usually say something like I can't make any promises, but you've, it turns out you're on the nice list. Have a Merry Christmas. That's it. Or kiss me. By the way, Paul, this, this, this is the only thing I walked away from as the moral of the story. It's actually a great idea for women to play Santa's. Okay. For women to take over the Santa industrial complex and just get those special masks. Like we should not be having older men sit there and have tons and tons of children come sit on their laps every year. Like that has to end. Okay. It should be a job only for women. Here's what I'll say. I, I'm inclined to agree. I think that the only caveat I would put on that is I do think I think that older men or middle aged men can play Santa if the women are adults. Okay. Well, So, so in a scenario where the people sitting on laps are adults. Yeah. I would say this right Santa for the right job. I want, Right Santa for, I, I want. I want to know how we're going to end up with, with AI Santa. I once sat on them. I once had a monkey Santa sit on my lap. Wait a minute. Were you at that party Santa? Yeah. Were you at that party? There is a party back. There's no, you know, sorry, you Jason. Back in New York, there was a party where they had a now knowing how dangerous these fucking monkeys are would have never have done it. They had a monkey dresses Santa and you would go in this room and then you would have plenty of pictures with me and this monkey. What? A lot of people with this monkey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of monkey. No, that sounds like something that maybe I would have gone to and then someone was like, oh, there's a monkey Santa there. And I've been like, no, I'm not going to thank you. I mean, the fact that I just, I just recklessly just this is when you, you were chimp crazy though. Yeah, this was your chimp era. This was like when the hangover was coming out and everybody was like, oh yeah, like little monkeys are so cute. And like the friends had a monkey on her friends. Everyone loved that monkey. By the way, didn't, didn't you feel like in the scenes between Santa performed by Hugh Man and Matthew in the locker room and even a couple of the other early scenes that they had that there was a charge. And I'm not just saying because I want to talk about this. Yeah, I want to talk about this. Let's say later on that like he felt like he knew he felt like he could talk to her. He felt comfortable sharing things. That's all well and good. But there was something about the way that Matthew, I'm not going to put this on Hugh Man. Matthew was looking at Santa Claus. Matthew wanted to fuck Santa, but Santa wanted to fuck Matthew and that's okay. This was okay. Well, that's okay. But like she was looking at him because she would be attracted to him. But what was interesting was like, oh, he was looking right on back. Matthew was connecting. Matthew was connecting with another man in a way that you could tell the length of the movie. His sexuality was being challenged. Yes. Not just another, but why is his sexuality being challenged by like the most in terms of just our like, you know, our iconic characters, like the most asexual, the most sort of like. Oh, like what's happening? What was amazing to me is when he's telling Taylor in one of their cute repart, repartee moments, he's telling her all about how excited he is for her to meet his best friend, Hugh Man. That was. And how he loves. It made me so sad that Matthew has gotten to be 41 or whatever you said, Paul, and has never had a friend. And the only friend he's ever had is Hugh Man, who is so excited to talk about his buddy Hugh. You gotta meet Hugh. I just, I feel so Eddie is talking to Hugh. This is a red flag, ladies. And by the way, your guys only friend is Santa. You're fucked. And by the way, have they talked that much? Have they really gotten into it that much? They had like two conversations. There's literally four sentences exchanged. But I guess no one's listened to him. Wouldn't it have been fun to see a scene where Matthew and Hugh are hanging out and trying to talk about stuff and just don't have anything in common? Or they do. Or they, you know what I mean? Like I would have loved a bro down ho down for these guys out for beers or whatever. Try like that's a funny set up that we never get. Right. That they have to like, bro out together. I mean, I will say, I think there was a missed opportunity with the bathroom scene. Okay. And this also makes me question Matthew, by the way, as a general manager, when she's going back and forth between Taylor and Santa and changing costumes. She's in the bathroom with her brother and there's lots of grunting, getting on the fat suit. All that's going on. Well, that's a real, he's watching Santa get fucked, right? Well, here's the thing. Yes, he is watching Santa get fucked or Santa fucking someone. Yes. But either way. Right. But he is fine with it. He's like, okay, with an employee of his at the lodge, fucking someone in the bathroom during his company event. During the Christmas party where the Santa that is getting drilled has to be present is currently absent. Yes. They were like, where's Santa? Where's Santa? I think it might have worked better though, if he had heard Taylor's voice in there, if we didn't see the Santa boots. Because then that would have added a little bit more of a spice. Yeah, a little bit more of a spice. What would have been cool is if he thinks he hears Taylor outside opens the door and is like Taylor and is like, oh, hey, you know what I mean? Like if there's like, So then he would think Hugh, his best friend was fucking Taylor, his girlfriend. Yes. That's a great scene. Yeah. That's a great scene. And how great of, I want in, I want in on this. How great of he thinks because of something she does or says or miscommunication, he thinks he's in competition with Hugh for the hand of Taylor. I mean, someone makes it. Sign me up. He laid it right out, considering this. Wow. That's the kind of stuff this movie would never go near because it's too like sketchy or it's well like, you know, overly sexual. I will tell you that this is one of the only movies that we have ever done to get a 10 plus on common sense media, which means that common sense media is like a conservative website that rates movies. Is it okay for families and stuff like that? A 10 plus like this movie is beyond good for families. They love it for families. Yeah. There's nothing in here that's untoward whatsoever. You know, like, like the most scandalous thing that's happened in this movie is someone has a glass of red wine that they don't even finish. Now, I will say this with all these, you know, critiques. I went down easy. I was very happy with this movie. I enjoyed my time watching it and it made me actually go, you know what they got? They figured it out. There's snow on the ground. It's dumb. It's fun. I like this chemistry. I liked everybody in it to a, you know, I wasn't mad at it. I was not. It wasn't a slog to get through. I had a harder time. Okay. Because I did like the premise and I did think that there was a lot left on the table that wasn't explored. And I'm, I think I'm in between because I, well, I think I'm, I feel similarly because both the way what you're saying, Paul, it goes down smooth. It is easy and it's a fun, easy watch so much more so than the one we just watched, whatever we watched last. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Thank you. It's so much better than Merry Christmas. But to your point, June, it's so much better that it almost promises that a better movie is there and is possible. And in falling short, you're like, oh no, you had it all there. You had the ingredients. Why didn't you just mix them this way instead and have it be a little more coherent or a little bit more fun or whatever. It's closer to a good movie that would have been a blast. But it falls short. Well, if they would have pushed some, you know, pushed some boundaries. Now look, obviously we have opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for Second Opinions. Here we go, people. So far, this movie is only out a handful of days at the time of recording here. There are no Amazon reviews. So we have to turn to Letterbox and IMDb. The average Letterbox rating is two out of five stars and that's out of 18,000 ratings. So a lot of people watching this. Wow. And on IMDb, there are 43 written reviews. Now, I will say on IMDb, the user identifies themselves a little bit. And I will say that the name of the user is J. Eggold. That rings a bell. It's because our lead, Matthew, his name is Ryan Eggold. So we might believe that J. Eggold is related to Ryan Eggold. And we'll take a look as we hear this 10 out of 10 review. For all the cynics out there, take a moment to heat up some hot cocoa, even throw in some mini marshmallows, and just have some good old-fashioned heartwarming fun. In this crazy world, we truly need lighthearted, lift-me-up stories like this. Ryan Eggold is such a fun and talented actor to watch. And you can see how he navigates comedy and seriousness with ease. Watch this and your heart will feel squishy and warm, which we could all use this holiday season. 10 out of 10, we need more films like this from J. Eggold. Oh, wow. So it doesn't even reference the possible relationship. No, it just, it does give Ryan a shout out. Yeah, yeah, but it's not like, and he's my brother. No, yes. Now, I will say that Karen95 writes, I'm sorry, but this movie was bisexual as fuck. For everywhere you look at it, I mean, literally got Matthew looking at who he thought was a man, AKA Santa Claus, and catching feelings for Santa when they were talking at the bar. I mean, you could see Matthew's face in that moment because he couldn't believe he was feeling like that about a man until that moment in time he had never pondered the question of bisexuality. So eventually when he goes on a date with Taylor and they're both walking with their hot chocolates, all the trees were decorated with bisexual lighting, which was obviously a hint at his bisexuality. And at the end of the date, he has a unicorn on his hand. Okay. Also, we have Dora Lee, who was attracted to Santa like genuinely at some point thought they were going to be brave and let both women kiss or for Matthew to kiss Taylor while she was wearing the suit. Also, obviously Taylor was bisexual. She literally had a unicorn chapstick and unicorns represent bisexuality. So in conclusion, this was bisexual and no one is going to change my mind. P.S. Confession Time. Alexander Breckinridge, this is the lead, was my bisexual awakening. It was because of her that I realized I wasn't to women at age 16. I saw her as young Laura in American Horror Story. I mean, when they aired that series back in the day, I started watching because there were actors I was a fan of. And I also thought Dylan McDermott was so hot, he is still very sexy. I was also invested in the series even before it aired. So when I saw her appearing for the first time in that series, I was so mesmerized by her beauty. And I wasn't sure why I was feeling that way about a woman. I mean, I was thinking to myself back then, well, obviously I like men. I like, you know, get all hot and bothered by Dylan McDermott. But I was also having those same thoughts about her, like sexual fantasies about her. I felt guilt. I mean, I was raised Catholic. Oh my God. In a somewhat conservative country slash household. So thinking about women in such a way, it was considered sinful. And I was scared of admitting it to myself that I also like women. I mean, I did eventually at the age of 16 come to, you know, Blinky Blinky Emoji, the conclusion I was indeed bisexual after a very erotic fantasy involving Alexandra Breckenridge and Alex O'Laughlin. I mean, both at the same time. And if you think about it, that's the real meaning of Christmas, finding out your true self. Also Christmas is not... Is it? Is this still the same review? Yes. Finding out we also, Christmas is not just sad for some of us. It's also horny. And most women my age want to sit on an old man's lap and ask for nice things. Yes, I understand Dorelly because I also want to fuck Santa. That would give the Santa Claus is coming to town a whole new meaning. If you know what I mean, five out of five stars. I think she, this person means they would like to fuck Tara as Santa Claus. I don't know. I don't know what she's saying. This was wild. What a wild, what a wild. My God. But I do think the person is correctly drilling down into some stuff that is pretty interesting. And I would have loved more of not only is Matthew confronted with, is starting to have feelings and connection to another man, but an elderly man at that. Well, that's the thing. Like I think there's a world in which Matthew just is bisexual and like starts the movie off that way. Who knows? Like maybe he is just bisexual. It doesn't have to tell us, but what's more interesting is that he is not that he's attracted to a man, that he is attracted to a man that is Santa. Right. A Santa man. Yes. That is subversive. Yes. Like, and is that his type now? Is this the, are we watching him develop? She will never fulfill. Like when he fell in love with her, it was in some ways as Santa. And does that, does that enter the bedroom at all? Do they, do they role play? Does he sit wet? Why don't we ever get him on her lap? Because we don't want that. We don't? We don't want the big buff man on the little Santa. No, we don't want it. I want to just read one more line here from M.Poo who writes, through this film, I learned what a single mother could do. Five stars. And I want, and I want to answer you both with Grant K.F.'s review, which says, you know, this movie is great. It breaks the mold. It's better than the Hallmark movies. But at the end, Grant says, we need a sequel to see this couple running the resort and having a child on Christmas Eve. I will be waiting 10 out of 10. Great. I like that. Why not? Why not? Our shirt, it ain't Christmas bitch is available right now in the T-Public store. It's a beautiful picture of Santa with magical writing right on it. And I got to say, Jason, I'm glad that you brought this into our lives. Jason's good. I hope so. Me too, Jason. Me too. I did, as I was watching it in full, feel very responsible. Yeah. I was like, oh, wow, they're having to do this. Boy. But I think worth it. I mean, they're apparently making you an executive producer. They are. Retroactively. Yes. I am now an E.P. on the thing. And when they come around to making the sequel, I hope that they ask us to be an integral part of it. Maybe we're doing a live podcast at the resort in the room, in the conference room. She's booked us as part of her job as director of family events. Yeah. Now I wanted to save the best piece of information for last. This was written by Ron Oliver, who wrote Hello, Mary Lou prom night two. So a little connection back. Interesting. Yes. So that's a, that's, that isn't that a very good idea. Isn't that a very old movie? It is 1987. People are still, yeah. And has made a nice name for himself writing movies at Christmas at the Plaza, falling for Christmas. He writes primarily Christmas and wedding movies right now. But it was also directed. And this is why I think the quality is good by the director who directed all the Princess Switch movies, which I enjoy. Princess Switch one, Princess Switch Switched again. Yes. Yeah. The VHCU, the Vanessa Hudgens cinematic universe, I guess streaming universe, VHSU. There we go. Single, the tagline, single mom, double life. Love it. I love it. It's a great setup, you know, for a movie and absolutely recommend. And I'll just say one final thing, which is this, that you might have been saying, Paul, Jason, June, why didn't you bring up the fact that Alexander Breckenridge also has remade the 12th night with Amanda Bynes and she's the man where we're also the same idea. A female dresses up as a man. Yeah. So they're just, yes, there it is. We acknowledge it. Just one of the guys. Just one of the guys, right? That was just one of the guys. Yeah. All right. Well, we did it. Happy holidays. And remember, if you want to watch our very special live holiday episode, it is up right now on HDTGM.com. You can buy that and the deep dive holiday special. It is great. 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