We Bought the Lowest Mileage Early Porsche 911 IN THE WORLD!
54 min
•May 13, 202621 days agoSummary
Spike and Zuckerman discuss their acquisition of a rare 1971 Dutch police Porsche 911 with exceptionally low mileage (under 4,000 km), featuring an incredible coincidence story involving an Uber driver. The episode also covers a Polestar 4 electric vehicle, a custom Radio Flyer wagon built on a Ford Explorer chassis, and a local controversy about reckless canyon driving in Los Angeles.
Insights
- Ultra-low-mileage classic cars preserve an irreplaceable 'time traveler' driving experience that cannot be replicated through restoration, regardless of quality
- Community-driven safety advocacy (like the Canyon Carver vigilante effort) can be effective but requires the accused to acknowledge wrongdoing rather than claim professional exemption
- Electric vehicle design trade-offs (like eliminating rear windows for aesthetics) create usability friction that accumulates through repeated daily interactions
- Niche vehicle collecting thrives when owners prioritize emotional connection and uniqueness over rational justification
- California's permissive vehicle culture allows extreme custom builds (Radio Flyer wagon) to operate legally on public roads, creating viral marketing moments
Trends
Collector market for ultra-low-mileage classic vehicles with documented provenance commands premium valuationsElectric luxury vehicles adopting lifestyle branding (Polestar's 'Lululemon of cars' positioning) over traditional performance metricsSocial media-driven safety activism in automotive communities creating public accountability for dangerous driving behaviorCustom vehicle builds leveraging social media for attention and potential commercial licensing opportunitiesShift from physical controls to gesture/app-based interfaces in premium EVs creating user experience friction pointsCelebrity car collection liquidation (Seinfeld) becoming source of acquisition for enthusiast media personalitiesCoincidence-driven narrative marketing in automotive content generating authentic engagement and shareability
Topics
Classic Porsche 911 market and low-mileage vehicle preservationDutch police car history and specificationsElectric vehicle design trade-offs and user experiencePolestar 4 features and competitive positioningCanyon driving safety and double-yellow line enforcementCustom vehicle builds and street legalityCelebrity car collections and acquisition sourcingAutomotive social media vigilantismEV rear-view camera systems vs. traditional windowsKeyless entry system usability issuesPorsche 911T engine specifications and performanceInsurance implications of vehicle rentalsCalifornia vehicle modification regulationsAutomotive influencer business modelsCollector vehicle financing and acquisition strategies
Companies
Porsche
Featured prominently through discussion of 1971 911 police car acquisition and historical factory details
Polestar
New electric luxury vehicle reviewed in detail with design critiques and competitive positioning analysis
Tesla
Model Y mentioned as Uber vehicle and comparison point for EV design and Elon Musk criticism
BMW
Mentioned as competitive luxury EV alternative to Polestar 4
Audi
SQ6 model mentioned as competitive luxury EV option
Ford
Explorer chassis used as base for custom Radio Flyer wagon build
Jerry Seinfeld's Collection
Source of 1971 Dutch police 911 acquisition and other vehicles discussed
People
Spike Feresten
Primary host discussing car acquisitions, driving experiences, and community controversies
Zuckerman
Co-host providing commentary, legal perspective on canyon driving controversy, and vehicle insights
Johnny Liebman
Mentioned as co-host who was traveling in Panama during recording
Jerry Seinfeld
Previous owner of 1971 Dutch police 911 and other vehicles in collection being liquidated
Sam Cabello
Jerry Seinfeld's advisor who inspected 911 repair work in Germany and facilitated acquisition
Phil Rezudo
Guest bringing custom Radio Flyer wagon built on Ford Explorer chassis for demonstration
Ard
Dutch Porsche enthusiast who coincidentally shared 1971 police 911 connection with Spike
Evan (Canyon Carver)
Social media personality filming reckless canyon driving and advocating for safety
Court Wagner
Leads wealthy car enthusiasts on canyon drives; criticized for crossing double yellow lines
Cameron
Team member present during 911 inspection and vehicle discussions
Scott Rulow
Sales director for newly certified California dealership partnership
Dell
Zuckerman's son managing dealership operations and making executive decisions
Quotes
"This car was meant to be with you guys. Now I know. Because we always talk about these funny moments of serendipity that happened to us. This was by far the biggest."
Jerry Seinfeld•Early episode
"I felt like a time traveler experience where I was driving a car out of the factory brand new that you can't replicate this feeling, this preservation feeling."
Spike Feresten•Mid-episode
"Don't be a law and order guy. Don't point your finger at other people saying look how bad these people are, and then break the law and say you're above it because you're something."
Zuckerman•Canyon driving controversy segment
"This drives better than some exotic cars I have. Like it floats like a Rolls Royce. The handling's pretty decent on it."
Phil Rezudo•Radio Flyer wagon segment
"I'm passing people in this. It's like, I don't even know what to say. I'm not sure what to say."
Spike Feresten•Radio Flyer performance discussion
Full Transcript
Welcome to Spikes Car Radio. Here we are. This time, Johnny Liebman is in Honduras, not Zuckerman. I was very successful there. Where were you? You weren't, were you in? I was searching for the origin of the antivirus. I was deep in a bat cave. I am not, I'm not. You said you weren't in Honduras. I was, I don't even know where you got Honduras. There was no Honduras. I was in Panama, which is not, that doesn't even border. You were there for legal reasons? Yeah, we have virtual assistants there. All right. And it all went well. Actually, yes. Do you see any cool cars down there? What goes on in Panama? Anything? Like, what is it like compared to a city I've never been? Miami. It's really, okay. Well, downtown, Panama City has more high rise bank buildings than you've ever seen in your life, which you immediately go, ding. Oh, this is where all the dirty money is. This is exactly where all of the money laundering is. There are a lot of my people with Yamakazan running around there. There's a lot of money changing going on there. Are there cool cars? Do they buy cars with this money down there? I didn't see any cool cars, but we have a fan that is one of the canal tugboat drivers that has cool cars. He has some horses. What do you mean? We follow each other. This guy will take the big cargo ships through the Panama Canal. And I know he has... Did you meet up with him down there? I did not meet up with him. I didn't tell him I was coming. We didn't have a moment. Why not? That would have been really fun. I mean, let's go down there. It's a six hour flight. They use the American dollar there. It is like a little colony. It's a good time down there. Very interesting. Never been there before. Everything's fried, ferris than fried food. I like that. Anyway, there's a lot going on in the car world, Suckerman. We have a lot of cars to talk about today. Yes. We have three as a matter of fact. One's a surprise. Remember that guy, Phil? Yeah. The boat car? Yeah. He's coming by a little later. He said he's got a surprise car for us. I don't know what he's bringing. The Artemis 3. But I'm excited about that. I have the Polestar 4, which is behind us. New electric car, which is kind of cool. And we have a new 911, which is fantastic. This 1971 former Dutch police car. Actually, never Dutch police car that we chatted about last week while you were down in Honduras, Panama, wherever the fuck you were. Deep in a cave. Yeah, we were talking about selling the Zagato, which is now in its new home in Detroit, and the picking up of the Seinfeld Crumbs. Yes. Yes. One of which was the Orange 356. And now we have the 71 Target. Which is an incredible car. You've been driving it. And there's already been such wild, wild moments. Why don't you let me tell the audience the story of the day that you got the car? Zuckerman, and I don't even think Cameron knows this story, but Zuckerman sends me a text. I'm on my way here and I've got to get an Uber, right? And I'm waiting for the Uber in front of my house. And Zuckerman says, look what I'm driving. And it's this car, the Dutch police car, 9-11. He goes, can you believe it? It's better than I remember it. I can't believe we own this thing. It's so exciting. He sends me, he's sending me a picture after picture. And I was like, I got to go because I got this weirdo Uber driver coming. And his name is Ard. And I've got to deal with Ard in an Uber. And because he and I are always sending each other a picture of the weird Uber drivers we get. I go, I got to deal with Ard. 90% of this guy's drunk because it's looking at his eyes. Here's what I get, right? And I said, Zuckerman, I go, this guy's picking me up. Okay. Okay. I get in the Tesla Model Y with Ard. And, you know, I like to make conversation because you get rated as a passenger. I don't want to be a low-rated passenger. I want to be a friendly passenger. So I say, hey, what do you think of the Model Y? And Ard says, I don't care for it. I feel like they're disposable. They fall apart. When I go, but there's more to that, isn't there Ard? He goes, yes, I hate Elon Musk. And I go, well, you and I dislike this guy. That's fine. He goes, he contributes nothing to society. He starts going on a rant about Elon. He says, all of this money and he does nothing to help. And I go, I'm with you, brother. And he goes, he goes, but that's not really it. He goes, I like Porsches. I go, oh, you do? And he goes, yes, he goes, I have one Porsche, a 1998 993 C2S. I go, well, if you're going to have one Porsche, that's the one to have. So this guy with the red eyes, the Uber driver, this guy right here with the red eyes, he goes, okay. So I say, Ard, how did you get the card? He goes, well, you know, I've fallen on hard times. And I'm an Uber driver and I'm building myself back. I was in tech. I was living in New York. I was living in LA. And my dream was have a 98 C2S 911 because I've always been a Porsche fan. And I go, really? And I go, what inspired that? He says, well, you probably don't know this. I'm not from America. I'm from Holland. But the Dutch had police cars, especially when I was younger, these early 70s, 911 police cars. Now you had just showed me a picture of one. And I said, I'm sorry. He goes, they had these 911 T Targa police cars. How does this happen? How does this, how does this happen? And the hair is standing up on the back of my neck. And I go, Ard, I'm going to freak you out right now. Look at this picture that my friend Paul Zuckerman just sent me. He goes, yes, that's it. That's the car. He goes, what's happening? And I go, we just bought that car from Jerry Seinfeld. He had no idea about me or the show or anything else. And pure coincidence. Just losing my mind. So we have the greatest ride. Can you can only imagine at that point, we're talking about cars, what he saw. I'm telling him about this car, where I'm going. I said, why don't you come with me into the garage? He got a little nervous. He's like, what's going to happen there? And I go, no, I say, we have liquor for you. All you want. I go, Ard, you know, you're a Porsche guy like we are. And I just want to show you some of the cars that are in here. Look, here's a picture. There's Ard. I brought him in. I didn't know what you had in here, Zuckerman. But I showed him the 944. Look at the 67s was there. This guy was flipping out. We had the greatest kind of 15 minutes of Porsche fun before he got called to another ride. But what a story. I immediately called you. I immediately called Jerry and Jerry said, that car was meant to be with you guys meant to be. He goes, now I know. Because we always, we talk about these funny moments of the secreticity that happened to us. This was by far the biggest. Absolutely. Isn't that a crazy story? That is so weird. And here is the car right here. And we're going to take you through it. But damn, fate fate has intervened on our side again. Again, the higher power, higher power in our lives. I like to think God sounds like Lord Michael's. Have a guy sucked into the engine, please. So this way, this way can have a quiet weekend. That's exactly what prevented your cousin you never met from coming. You get over the meat and intestines in his that he's seeing on the sidewalk. Okay. Anyway, here it is, the Dutch police car. Now here, Zuckerman, you and I talk about this. Like this car was on Cabello garage for a little while. And it was, you know, listed properly as a former Dutch police car. And what was slightly confusing about that, I think, and kept it from being sold was fortunately, it never and fortunately, yes, it never really entered service. So this was a car that was intended for Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands. It was going to be in a parade for her. And it was the last car loaded at the factory onto the truck. And it was damaged in that left rear quarter. So I guess it's on the passenger side rear quarter. So because it was damaged, it never went to Holland. Did you know all the stories are coming or not? I had a different story as usual. But you're now have the correct story. I called Sam up and said, you got the real story. So this car never went to the Netherlands in the beginning. It was put in a warehouse and the factory sold it to a friend of Porsche. I don't know who that person's what that person's name is, but it essentially stayed in Germany. Now, the guy who buys it from Porsche, he puts it in a warehouse and keeps it there until 2006, undriven with a little damage. It's a new 9 11 with a little ding in the corner. And it's an undriven 9 11. Okay. And as you'll notice, none of the police or police a house or eye around it, because all of that stuff happened after the fact. Okay. The guy who owns it in the warehouse dies. It's bought by another guy in Germany. He decides he's going to sell it. And he puts it in Octane magazine where Jerry and Sam see it. Okay. As a essentially a brand new 9 11 with no months on it. So he goes to buy the car. And sometime around 2007, 2008, the deal's taking a while to get done. The seller lets on, they haven't repaired the ding damage yet. You told me that the photos that they had sent were of the undamaged parts of the car. The other side of the car. But I mean, the damage is just one ding. So they shot the other side of the car and they said, they said, don't worry, it's being repaired. That of course, you know, triggers Sam Cabello, who's Jerry's guy, the consigliary, the ultimate consigliary. He's like Tom and the godfather. Repair. Most of us 90% of people will go, Oh, great, it's going to be repaired. The better 10% go, I need to know how the repair is being executed and what exactly is done and the rest of it. So Sam gets on a plane and flies to Germany to inspect the car. He looks at the car. He's, he looks at the repair work that they're doing. He goes, this is fantastic. There are a couple other little things I'd like to do and Jerry buys the car. It stays in Jerry's collection. Almost 20 years. 20 years. I drove this soon after he bought it and couldn't believe what I was driving. I was dry. I felt like again, that time traveler experience where I was driving a car out of the factory brand new that you can't replicate this feeling, this preservation feeling. Right. I don't care how well the car is restored. Yeah. It's never, it's never the same. And then if you open the door, Cameron, the only thing that says police car is the door sill right down there, the vinyl strip. Where is that? Well, the vinyl strip is just inside that the rocker panel. So for muddy boots, instead of having carpet, you see, and the little, those little bins that are in front, those have vinyl. So you, so you can see that in between the seat and the metal strip. That should be carpet on a regular car. That's vinyl for police wearing carrots on the other side. Yes. There are, there are two more features actually that denote this as a Dutch police car. One, you would, you could get on some other cars, but all Dutch police cars had that rear wiper that you see on the glass, which is absolutely fantastic. But those are also on early 911s. Those are also, but that was something I always ordered. And then there is a passenger side mirror. Passengers. However, if you're in the driver's seat, you do not see that mirror at all. If you were in the driver's seat, you wouldn't even know that mirror is there. That mirror is designed for the police passenger to be, to be looking behind and keeping his eyes on what's happening out there. So more than it being a police car, it, to us, it's just an ultra low mileage 911. Zip in on that odometer and let's look at the kilometers we have there. What, where are we at? Have you been driving the hell out of this? I have been. I've been. I've been close to 500 kilometers in the past two weeks. So there's the original mileage, 4,944 kilometers, which is a little over two grand, right? No, it's a little over three. A little over 3,000. Original miles, 9-11. Exceptional. These are Zenith triple throat carbs. They run so good. That, you know, if you were racing back in the day, you liked those Zenith carbs because it gave you a lot more power. And when I was chatting with Sam, he said, I don't need to tell you, Spike, the 2.2 Ts are a sweet spot for a 9-11. They certainly are. And in my journey in Porsche and collecting, the first thing I wanted was a 9-11S, a 1979, 11S. Those are fantastic cars. They're very full of character. They're, they're unusual in, in how they perform. And I would never have thought I'm not getting any just regular 9-11T. It's, it's a regular car. This car is so good. I can't believe how good a 1970 or 71, 9-11T is. This is the only car anyone would ever need. Does it have back seats in, I don't even know if it has back seats. It has back seats. It has lots of yellow rags there. Does it have the seat belts in the back? I probably don't. Probably not. Lift up, lift up one of those back seats carefully. If he can get in there. See if there's a seat belt back there. No, probably doesn't. Could you imagine putting a little prisoner back there? You know, the people in the Netherlands are, are the tallest people in the world. The women average six feet. The men are, I think, are like six feet two. How are you going to put a big drunken Flemish or Dutch guy back there? It's traffic control. So I learned this with the Poli-Z VW Beetle. I drove Jerry's 356 Dutch police car the other day and it had the double rear view mirror in the center for the same reason. So that the other officer in the passenger seat could be there. But I've been told by our listeners that directing traffic was why this was a target, why the 356 was an open top. They could put their hands up or direct traffic or reach out or step up or sit up and they, they like to, they like to have an open air experience. Well, and it drives right. It's like an incredible driving experience. I can't believe how much I love this car. Wow. I think the goal will be to put 100,000 kilometers on it before you and I expire in 2028. Following the wild cherry collecting his droppings, collecting, collecting Jerry droppings. Someday when we drive these, we'll call this the Seinfeld Crumb Collection. Yes, exactly. You can just imagine if these are the crumbs that fall from his table, what that man has in his collection. We are like hungry dogs getting the scraps. But it's fun because here we have cars again, staying in our little circle of friends. And like I said, Jerry can take it anytime he wants now and drive it. You can enjoy the money. We can enjoy the car. And I actually think he enjoyed seeing how much we enjoy this car. It gave him some pleasure. Well, you're, I mean, you're really driving them. You're driving this in the 356. I'm enjoying the 718. It's a really funny moment of car driving right now. Like I'm really happy in the 718 just bopping around in that and driving press cars and you're super happy in these ultra little miles. I think, I think we should take the target hop off today. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, for sure. It will fold up and fit right in that little front boot. Yep. Really nice car. Really nice car for Morris Solomon's Prevei or Fine Automobiles Collection. Yes, we are now officially, we are now officially a dealership. We've been certified by the state of California and we have lots of plans coming. Scott Rulow is our head of sales sitting over off to the side here. We're discussing the next moves. We are employees. This is the first time I am employed by somebody else in over three decades. Your son, Dell, is the general manager of the dealership and he already gave, he told you not to do some things. Yes. We won't really get into it, but he's like, no, I'm not comfortable with that. He made an executive decision. He's throwing his weight around. Yeah. All right, let's do some ads. Today's show is sponsored in part by our friends at Maguire's. Maguire's is celebrating 125 years in 2026 and new for 2026, Maguire's luxury collection whole car air refreshers. Oh, I have them right here, Zuckerman. Oh, I thought I was going to drink that. I've been huffing them. I thought that was like one of those booze bombs. As your co-host lost his fresh smell. These premium car air fresheners instantly fight odors while leaving behind a long lasting refreshing scent. They're simple to use aerosols that penetrate the complete interior by moving through the ventilation system. You know what you do with this? Don't put on a leap in them. No, you close the windows, you throw the bomb in, you turn on the air system and it sucks it all in and then you roll the windows down and everything smells great. 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Ooh, I have two sites for an exclusive 15% off garage flooring. And to see that picture of me, Turtle Man, Spike Ferris-den. I four-in-one. I four-in-one. Hello. Killed a lot of people. One or two. I killed those Hitler guys. Yeah. And now I have an ST. Correction. Used to have. Look at that poster in the 914 there. This is kind of a shot, a picture of full of regret, Suckerman. Because not only that, but that 914 up there, that won Le Mans in 1970. You had that? We had a chance to buy that and we blew it. Now someone else owns it. But I knew where that car was. It was in storage and we could have restored it. God damn it. Yeah. It's a 914 6 GT that just happened to win its class in Le Mans. Another thing we fucked up. Once again. So much. Once again. All right. I was going to do Dear Suckerman today, but there's a bit of a controversy in our car community here in Southern California that I thought maybe you could rule on. All right. I'd be happy to. So let me set the table. Once again, we're talking about this guy, Evan, the Canyon Carver. He's, for some reason, he's been in every show for like the last three weeks and he's in it again. Because, you know, here, we're going to have to put our headphones on. You can just hold them up. He posted this video last week and it's pretty self-explanatory. Check it out. There's a guy in the car community here in LA who leads a bunch of very wealthy individuals with very fancy cars on a drive every Sunday morning. This is true. At a coffee shop and then they go for a drive. Yep. I know they happen to know that they drive super recklessly. They cross the mustard. They're going to kill someone. When he says stop for a second. When he says cross the mustard. So up in the canyons above Malibu, it's not as bad as Angeles crest, but there's a lot of bad driving going on. Correct. People getting hurt, people getting killed, etc., etc. And one thing the CHP likes to do up there is they want to make sure no one crosses the double yellows. The mustard. The mustard, as he says. Don't cross the mustard, which is funny. But I've actually seen them sit up at the snake CHP. Correct. With binoculars and watch for anybody, motorcycles, or otherwise who cross that yellow line and then they write you a ticket because traffic coming the other way around a turn, you can die very quickly, especially for motorcycles. And I have quite a few of those cases. Yeah. And you have a few and apparently Evan lost a good friend. There was a there was a fellow who died last month just in a passenger car got hit and you know, oncoming traffic. So he's very passionate about this. And as we know, you know, this LA is gigantic. There's no way for the police to police the entire city of LA. It's just massive. So he's kind of become this vigilante up in the canyons, you know, filming people, but also talking to them and asking them not to, as he says, cross the mustard. Go ahead and play the rest of the leader of this group in the past. And he basically says, I'm a race car driver. I know what I'm doing, which may be fine and dandy, but the people in this group certainly don't know what they're doing. And he is a bad influence. I'm going to the road that they drive on to hopefully capture this terrible driving in action. This is hilarious. Here he is. Now, I hear him. I hear him. I guess he doesn't have a job because he can sit out here. You bastard. Don't cross the mustard. Don't cross He flipped me off. I love this video. Whoa, did you see that? That also a little bit of a GTP. Not Canyon Carver approved. Not Canyon Carver approved. Okay, so there you go. So you've seen the video. So it's a flagrant violation violation. It's also dangerous. And the the the fellow they're talking about there is this guy, Court Wagner, who, you know, has this group. I've been invited to go in this group. And this is precisely why I've never accepted that invitation. Why do I want to do that? Why do I want to be driving with you folks? But this went viral in California in our little group. And there's two kind of distinct sides to it. There's the there's there are two sides. There are. There's the there's the Canyon Carver side of like, Hey, let's just be safe if we're going to drive up there and not get our community in trouble. And then there's the, you know, people who feel like the Canyon Carver is a bit of a Karen out there, you know, with his camera, which I thought that video was funny. It really made me laugh. And I can't believe he actually caught the guy. Okay, so this was a freestanding by itself for a couple of hours until this video came from our friends at Angela's death highway. This is the AI guy that I've avoided talking about up up until now. Canyon Carver and I've had it with these rich morons crossing mustard. Oh my God, it's corkwagger, my arch nemesis, crossing the mustard. But don't you understand, I'm a professional. I'm allowed to do this. Somebody has to stop him. I'm posting this on Instagram and everyone's going to hate me. Oh, look, a GT3 RS just crashed. That's nothing new. Is that new? No, it doesn't mean. There's no cops, just a Karen trying to add like once. What's up with all of these bloody GT3 RS drivers? Every time I open my phone, GT3 RS is in a place it shouldn't be. No more, Mr. Nice Guy. I'm done with you mustard cutters. Okay, that's actually good. It's actually the first pretty good one, right? Yeah. By doing a pretty decent job. And you know, I've met the kid who's running this and he's got a good sense of humor about it and passionate about cars. And you know, what a GT3 RS had just gone off the edge a couple of weeks ago, right? With some kids and they had by the way, rented that car. You heard that story. Yeah. I've known that for a little while. Who told you that? No, you know, I don't know. But I knew it. I knew that. Yeah. There's more to that story. Yeah. Rented it from someone whose car he borrowed from his dad. Yeah. Yeah. You know the whole story. Yeah. And that becomes a very big problem with insurance because if you, you know, if I have a car and I'm renting it, it's no longer, it's no longer really insured. That's not the purpose for which I bought my regular car insurance. Yes. The car insurance is not going to cover me in a business. Yes. So getting back to our friend, Mr. Wagner and Evan, the Canyon Carver. I know that court had reached out to the AI guy and said, we have to talk. Oh, really? About what? About what? I don't know. I don't know if he's, you know, but in his video, he says there's a freestanding feud between them. I reached out to Evan and he said, not really. And he sent me a bunch of back and forth texts where he just very, very nicely said to him, he's like, look, man, you know, if you're going to, if you're going, I'm not trying to stop you from enjoying yourself in the Canon, but you can't cross over on the yellows because someone eventually is going to get hurt whether you're a professional race car driver or not. I don't even know if he, this guy is, I know he's a finance guy that's won some races. I don't know what, which came first, but you've seen all of this. I've sent you the messages, right? What's your take on it? Give us your take, decide this because, you know, like I said, there are some people who feel like Evan's acting like a Karen. And I think there are a lot of people who are like, this guy's driving like an idiot in the canyons, but it's pretty, it's pretty split. Okay. It's pretty simple in my opinion. It is pretty simple. Don't shoot the messenger, right? We know about shooting the messenger. Put Evan aside. What we're looking at is conduct. Mr. Wagner's part is really indefensible. You can't drive like that. And when you're caught doing that, you have to concede. Yeah. I'm not driving right. And I'm encouraging other people not to drive right. And saying you're a race car driver, well, you know, a couple of times people said to me, did you tell them you're a lawyer? And I said, you know, saying in an argument that I'm a lawyer is really just saying, I'm an asshole, right? Proclaiming that you have some greater knowledge, ability, putting it out there is just code for saying, I'm an asshole. Yes. And really, it's not about whether you're a lawyer or a race car driver. It's about let's just exercise some common sense here. Driving like this up in the hills is bad. And I'm going to point something out. And court and I, I've had nice conversations with him, but he's very much a law and order guy. He very much is a law and order guy. And one of the things that I think we all suffer from, but some more than others, is hypocrisy. Okay. Don't be a law and order guy. Don't point your finger at other people saying, look how bad these people are, and then break the law and say you're above it because you're something. Exactly. You know, you got to try to be as consistent in this world as you possibly can. And when you were caught on video driving this way, you got to concede and say, you know what, I was driving like an asshole and I'm encouraging people to do that. And if I want to teach people how to drive, I have to do that in a responsible environment. You know, Zach, I mean, the first racing school I went to was Jim Hall Racing and then in carts. And I remember the very first thing they said, they said, this is where you race. Yeah. You come here, you don't do this stuff on public roads. They then they said it at Skip Barber. Same speech. This is where you race and fool around. You don't do that on public. It's the first rule of racing. He must have heard that. He's a racer. He must have heard that. I'm a professional racer. Yeah. Yes. I think you make a very, very good point. Don't shoot the messenger. And, and by the way, I've got no problem with Evan as vigilante up there just trying to keep people safe. Look, because we've seen the death. We've seen the deaths. I've seen I have a lot of people that are hurt and injured. Yeah. By people crossing the double yellows and coming head on into traffic and some people that have really messed up as a result of it. Well, unfortunately, court didn't really take your advice. All he did was a couple days later post this picture. Here I am with a sheriff, 40 years of dedicated service on wavering. I think the idea being I'm tight with law enforcement, even though I just broke the law. Yeah. It's so I took a page from Angeles death highway and threw it through my AI machine and fixed his post for him. Here I am. The sheriff just arrested me for driving like an idiot. I think Mr. Wager is going to be mad at you. I hope he takes it with a sense of humor. Like the whole thing. You know, what do we talk about? This should have been an 11th commandment, which is don't take yourself too seriously. Mr. Wagner, the 11th commandment is for you at this moment. Yes. Enjoy. Laugh at this. We can have a laugh. Just have a laugh. Have a laugh at this. Can you call it have a laugh? Everyone have a laugh. Everyone have a laugh. Everyone have a laugh. It's not going to go that way. But if you want to check out how it goes at the Palisades Motor Car Show, do you have that side up? Put that up. Palisades is having its first car show in June and every one of us is going to be there. So sparks are going to fly. Fisticuffs. The candy car is going to be there. I'm going to be there. You're going to be there. Everybody's going to be there. Leno is going to be there. What's the guy's name again? Court Wagner is going to be there. Let's hope there's a little dust up and there's either going to be a dust up or there's not. And these proceeds are going to be benefiting the YMCA. This isn't an ad. I'm just telling you, this is if you would now, there's now some high drama leading into this car show in the Palisades. 200 plus curated vehicles, 3000 plus attendees, one or two fights scheduled on the lawn. That's a wild story, isn't it, Suckerman? Yeah. It's a really wild story. So you've rented your judgment. All right. Let me talk about Verdice Dine tires right here. Wow. I was with, look at those. You know what those cars? Tires look like the Ice Raider. Remember the Swedish Ice Raider? Of course. I was down at Jerry's Hangar and looking at some of his cars and on this old Mercedes that we drove. You know, what was that old Mercedes diesel that he had that with the little, the 230D? Yeah, the green one. 240D? Yeah. The green one. I drove that car. How was it? The glow plug. 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And if you grew up with posters of cars on your wall and you were the type of kid that dreamed of something Swedish designed but built in China and Korea, this is your car. This is an electric car. It is a luxury electric car. Let me go through some stats on this guy. 544 horsepower. It starts at $56,000. That color is called electron blue. It's actually very beautiful. This car has tested $80,000. What kind of range do we have? We have 280 miles. And the best way to think about this car is it's the Viori or the Lulu lemon of electric cars. Like it really has that weird techy vibe to it. You know what I mean? Like even the interior is called Sport Tech. It's like this kind of like athletic tech, you know, shirt that kind of like flexible stuff that you wear type vehicle. Now what you're asking yourself, like what segment is this, right? Like what am I not, what am I considering if I'm considering the Polestar four? Mechani V, BMW iX, SQ6 Audi or maybe this guy. Look, it's pretty attractive, right? It's a very beautiful looking thing. It's a nice looking blob. It's a nice looking electric thing. I can tell you it really drives well. It's very fast, quick, it's about like low threes, three three, I guess, when it's in its most powerful mode there. I think it looks good. Look at the show. It's not going to be in the back window there or lack there. What is that? Here's one of the first design things with it. That here, I guess the best way to show it is go to the profile of the car and pull back. There's no window. You see that C pillar? Yeah. That used to be kind of a controversial design in the previous Polestar. I don't know which number it was, two or one, but it didn't quite look right. It kind of came down quicker and then it showed a trunk and in that trunk, there was not a lot of room. One of the early criticisms of the Polestar was there's not enough room for stuff. What did they do? They decided to take that C pillar and that roof line and kind of make it slope down and look cooler, which they achieved and it looks really cool. In doing so, they had to make a decision about a rear window and they decided to get rid of it. Who do you look behind him? If you want it sloped that way, if you look at the top of the headrest in the back seat, there's no real way to have a rear window there. You can open up the back. Oh, by the way, here, come back here. I like inadvertently one of the problems with the car. Take this guy. Getting the damn thing open, but we'll get to that. Backseat's pretty sweet. Like because it has that lack of rear window and sloping, those seats are just in the back. You can push them back. They go back like an airline seat, which I haven't seen before. But if you go ahead, pan up and look, you're kind of in the back of something, right? There's no way to look out. By the way, you've got one of those glass ceilings right there. You press a button, it lightens up and darkens up and you can see. It's kind of like a party in there. Pretty cool. I don't mind it. So in eliminating the window sacrament, we have more room in the trunk. But what about looking back there? We have cameras. You'll see it. See that rear view mirror in the front seat? They're the cameras. When you're backing up, you can use your side mirrors, obviously, and that electronic rear view monitor right there to back up. Does that work? It does in most cases. But you can see right there, see the Range Rover and the mirror right there. Can you tell the issue? Well, it doesn't give you the proper depth of field. Yeah. And you can't really see a lot. It's not like looking over your shoulder. You can't. And look, they're right. When you're driving, you won't miss it. You won't even think about it. But here's where it gets tricky in close quarters. So I was backing up in my driveway or I was in a parking garage or I was pulling into here. It's a little dicey because you're not getting enough coverage. I'm sure I could have popped something up on the monitor, but I didn't want to. You know what I mean? I get one of those 3D versions of where the car is and it feels a little strange and claustrophobic, but it's not a deal breaker by any stretch of the imagination. One of the other little issues I've been having with it, and this is something they really have to change. You know, great sound system, by the way. Great driving experience, great steering, very comfortable. Everything's fantastic about it. So, you know, it's definitely a good car. They're just little things that I want to tell them to stop doing. The key has no buttons on it. So when you're approaching it, there's the key right there, right? You know, I've got my hands full, usually tennis equipment or other stuff. And I want to open that rear, yeah, see this? I want to open that rear hatch automatically. I don't have access to the app, so I wasn't able to do that. But I was told when I get close to the car, it's going to unlock and then I have to kick underneath a license plate. And it's going to work here, I can already tell because it's talking. Go ahead and do the kick. But when you got your hands are full of shit, you don't want to be kicking a car like this. It's dumb. It's just a stupid extra step. It's an extra step. Put a button on the, put a button on the key fob, please. No more, no more of this kicking. Outdoors, it doesn't work. It has nine out of 10 times I was unable to get the car thing open with everything down, going around to the driver's side, unlocking the car. Why won't it work outside? Light conditions? Maybe. I thought it was the key fob in the battery, so I replaced it and it didn't work. So, you know, again, that's not a deal breaker thing. But every time I drive it, it's happening. It started to color my view. Yeah, my, my happiness with the car because when I look at it, I think it's very well designed, very beautiful exterior design, very nice interior design. I like the whole Viori Lululemon idea concept of it. The price point is a little expensive. The range is a little short. It's just got these weird things and weird is the word, you know, it's just got these little weird flaws in it that they have to kind of fix and get right. Like here's another example, like the key fob, which unlocks the door. Sometimes I was all the way up to the door and it didn't unlock it. And then I'm pushing the key against the car. As it starts to open, I grab the handle, but I grab it too quickly and then it closes on my hand with my hand in it. I can never tolerate this car. Forget it. There's no way. I was doing, I was trying to pull it. That wasn't it. It's like when it was opening, but it just gives you a little bite and you're just like, give me buttons on the key fob and it solves the problem. And I'm sure the Polestar guys are going to message me after and go, if you had the app, you could do it all on the app and that's fine. But I don't have the app, but it's a winner. It's a good car. And here's another thing. Give it a name. Give it a name. You know, we made it, we made a movie about breakfast cereal and we talked about the fact that without the idea and the picture of the, of the leprechaun and the bowl, right? And the name Lucky Charms, it's just a bag of horse feed, right? And Polestar four doesn't resonate. It doesn't resonate. Nobody, nobody craves owning a Polestar four. They want an idea here. And I know it's hard to clear stuff globally, but they need an idea. You got to give these things names because they're coming out with cool stuff, the five, the six, there's a roadster, you know, call it internally the four, the five, the six, but give these things names, please. But I like the car. Blue blob. Polestar blob. Yeah. Okay. Come on back. Bring it back. 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Well, let's start and tell us, you know, last time you were here, you brought the boat car, which brought many smiles to people around the world. What do you have for us today? So this is a radio flyer. It's the whole chassis is a Ford Explorer. I see. Yeah. And how did you, did you drive this here on the street or was this on a tow or a flat? This is, this is fully street legal. This, this goes down the road. This is smooth sailing. What, what, what highways were you on today? Let's see, we took the one on one to the 405. 405 was backed up. So a lot of photos as I was going. He's on the 405. Okay. Do you wear goggles? Sunglasses. I do, I do have goggles, but I have a receding hairline, so I prefer not to wear them. Yeah, you can't, you can't drive a wagon without your wagon goggles. Yeah, those are ski goggles, by the way. This is amazing. You must, people must lose their mind when they see you on the freeway. Yeah. I mean, I feel like this brings more attention than anything on the road. Just to know that. Can I go down? Yes. I wonder why. Can I ask you a couple of questions about it? Sure. Sure. What is it? I know it's a Ford Explorer underneath, but the wagon part, how did this come to be? You know what? I saw this, somebody, the new somebody, sent me a guy that owned this down in like Alabama or Arkansas, something like that. The guy had built it and I fell in love with it. I messaged the guy, found the guy in Facebook and said, if you want to sell it, let me know. I'm ready to buy it. And a few years later, he sold it to me. And did he explain what it was? No, I didn't ask. Did he explain the why? No, I honestly, I just wanted it so badly. I didn't care why he was selling it or the price or anything. It was just when he was ready, I was ready to take it. So you never said, why did you build a big red wagon mobile? No, no, I didn't ask him that. Fantastic. It didn't matter to you. It didn't matter. It was the fact that it was built and it was just incredible. It makes sense to him. It totally does. It just makes sense to him. Like, of course you have, of course, this guy did this. Yes. Why bother? And you have a big collection of things like this. What do you do with them? Aside from bringing them onto our show and bringing joy to millions. I just, I just like driving them. I just think they're cool or different, you know, a little bit of everything. What does it drive like? Since you like driving this? Honestly, this drives great. Like this out of, it drives better than some exotic cars I have. Like it floats like a Rolls Royce. The Hamlin's pretty decent on it. You're not trying to be funny. No, I'm being dead serious. Like, this is, this is an incredible driving car. I don't know if it's because it has no like metal work on it. It's super light, but it has no lots of stuff on it. It has no, it has no windshield. It has no windshield. It is pretty bad in the wind. Like going for the Sepulveda pass was, was awful. My hat almost flew off like four times. So, Phil, I want you to know. It's not a surprise, Phil. Show us the driving position. Take camera and over and show us where you sit to drive this. Yeah. So it's, it's, oh look, it's got front seats. It's pretty basic Ford on the inside. If you want to take a look here, we, we've got four seats. Dashboard, everything. Just sit like a normal car. You don't want to drop anything out your pockets because the sides are just open to the road. There's no carpet in it. You know, there's no luxury products. AC doesn't work. Heat doesn't work. It's just, just you in the car. Do you have a speedometer in it? It doesn't work. What would you estimate your top speed has been in this car so far? I mean, I, I cruise with a highway speed. I could be in the left lane and you know, I'm passing people without a problem. So it, it goes. You're passing people in this. I'm passing people. It's like, I don't even know what to say. I'm not sure what to say. Do you have the police? Have they ever pulled you over in this and gone, what are you doing? Passing people on the radio flyer? I'm on my way here. I had a motorcycle officer on the highway say, dude, that's awesome. So that's why we love California. Do you see that? Yeah. You're into it. They're into it. You can drive a radio flyer down the highway, pass people and the police give you a thumbs up and go, that is awesome. But I did get pulled over once because I didn't have license plates on inside the car, but just got a warning for that. So you just got a warning for driving a wagon down the road. This is so unbelievable. Is there a smog? Do you have to get it smogged? Yeah, there's no check engine lights that passes smog find. And you are you married, Phil? I am. Yes. And will your wife go out in this? Yeah, no, she loves it. This is one of her favorite cars. Wow. I love this thing. I'm just, I'm speechless about it. Phil is and why we keep having him back on is a unique collector with a unique collection. Tell me that you rent some of this stuff out to studios and TV shows. Do you? Or not? If it's something, if I like the project, I'll rent it out to them. It just depends what it's for. Yeah. But I'm totally open to it. Now, do you have anything in your crosshairs now? Is there something out there? Yeah, what's your dream weird vehicle? I want a mail truck like the Grumman LLV. Yeah, okay. I've been on the hunt for one of those for a few years. You've been what? I've been on the hunt for that for a few years. I thought you said I'm hot for one of those. I was like, oh, now I get it. So you mean like an old male speed up mail truck? Yes, correct. Yeah. Yeah, my mailman, Johnny drives an old beat up mail truck and I was talking in the other day and had really good like diesel smells in it. I was like, this is kind of a nice thing. I like this thing. It's kind of open. It's weird and fun. What would you do? Just keep it in the same livery? I think so. Maybe just put like my name on it instead of USPS so I don't get any legal trouble. So you just put your name on an old mail truck. Phil is fantastic. Now, Phil is living the California dream. He is whatever he wants, drive whatever he wants. I really respect. You know, Phil, last time I was here with James Pumphrey and you had the boat car, you took us for a drive around town. Will you take Zuckerman and I for a drive? Yeah, absolutely. Well, thanks for bringing it on. It's always a joy to have you on the show. That's our show today, ladies and gentlemen. Next week, we'll have the whole crew together. Go ahead and right now, go to Patreon. You'll see Zuckerman and I and the radio flyer with Phil. Drive it around LA, live in the dream. See you next week, Spikes Car Radio. Parade waves, Zuckerman. We're coming back. All right, Phil, you're going to take us once around the block.