Summary
The Confused Breakfast podcast hosts conduct a detailed scene-by-scene analysis of Wayne's World 2 (1993), exploring its production challenges, behind-the-scenes conflicts with director Mike Myers, and comparing it to the original film. The episode covers the movie's nostalgic value, critical reception, and cultural impact while discussing the performances of the ensemble cast and the film's comedic legacy.
Insights
- Sequels made under creative duress can still achieve cultural resonance when filmmakers inject subversive humor about the production process itself, as evidenced by Myers' subtle jabs at Paramount throughout the film
- Dana Carvey's threat to quit over insufficient screen time for Garth demonstrates how actor leverage can improve ensemble comedies, resulting in better character balance and stronger performances
- The film's intentionally bad special effects (fake airplane, stunt doubles) required exaggerated poor quality to land the joke, suggesting modern remastering may have inadvertently undermined the original comedic intent
- Comedy sequels released within a year of originals risk audience perception of interchangeability, making differentiation through character development and fresh scenarios critical to longevity
- Behind-the-scenes conflict between Myers and director Penelope Spheeris, combined with studio pressure from Paramount head Sherry Lansing, created a hostile production environment that paradoxically produced quotable moments
Trends
1990s comedy sequels relied heavily on fourth-wall breaking and meta-commentary about filmmaking as a survival strategy against sequel fatigueEnsemble comedy casts of the early 1990s featured high-wattage talent (Walken, Farley, Basinger, Barrymore) in small roles, suggesting studios used A-list cameos to elevate sequel credibilityPhysical comedy and slapstick remained central to mainstream comedy in 1993 despite emerging alternative comedy movementsMusic licensing costs forced filmmakers to commission cover versions of popular songs, creating subtle quality differences audiences rarely noticedPublic access television and radio station culture provided rich comedic material for 1990s films targeting Gen X audiences with nostalgic referencesCelebrity cameos in comedies shifted from plot-relevant to purely comedic relief, with actors like Charlton Heston playing against type for laughsIntentional production value reduction (fake effects, obvious stunt doubles) became a comedic tool rather than a limitation to hide
Topics
Comedy sequel production dynamics and creative conflictsMike Myers' collaborative approach and creative control issuesDana Carvey's performance and character development in ensemble casts1990s special effects and intentional artificiality as comedyMusic licensing and cover recording in film productionChristopher Walken's casting and villain portrayalFourth-wall breaking and meta-commentary in comedy filmsPublic access television culture and radio station humorCelebrity cameo strategy in sequelsNostalgic comedy and generational appealConcert festival planning as comedic premiseGender dynamics in music industry power structuresSequel fatigue and audience expectationsPhysical comedy and slapstick performanceFilm criticism and audience reception gaps
Companies
Paramount Pictures
Studio that financed Wayne's World 2 and pressured Myers to make the sequel; head Sherry Lansing threatened legal act...
New Order
Band whose song 'Age of Consent' was covered by session musicians due to licensing cost constraints
Aerosmith
Featured prominently in the film with live concert footage and as a central plot element for the Wayne Stock festival
Big Grove Brewery
Primary sponsor of the podcast episode with multiple beer product placements throughout the discussion
People
Mike Myers
Wrote and starred in Wayne's World 2; had significant creative conflicts with director and studio over script and vision
Dana Carvey
Played Garth Algar; threatened to quit over insufficient screen time and successfully negotiated for expanded role wi...
Christopher Walken
Played antagonist Bobby Kahn; was 50 years old during filming and performed much of his own choreography
Chris Farley
Played Del Preston in expanded comedic role; delivered physical comedy and memorable one-liners throughout the film
Penelope Spheeris
Director of original Wayne's World; reportedly cut off from Wayne's World 2 due to disagreements with Mike Myers
Stephen Surjik
Directed Wayne's World 2 after helming Kids in the Hall episodes; worked under tight deadline and rushed production s...
Sherry Lansing
Paramount executive who threatened to sue Mike Myers and take his house over script disputes regarding Kingdom of Way...
Val Kilmer
Originally written for Jim Morrison role in dream sequence but had to pass due to Tombstone filming commitments
Kevin Pollock
Played Cassandra's father Jeff Wong; delivered memorable 'crossing the T's and dotting lowercase J's' joke
Kim Basinger
Played Honey Hornet; added to script by Myers to keep Dana Carvey happy with expanded Garth storyline
Ralph Brown
Played Del Preston, the roadie with memorable stories; provided comedic relief throughout the film
James Hong
Played Jeff Wong, Cassandra's father; was 64 during filming and performed much of his own fight choreography
Bob Odenkirk
Made his first on-screen movie appearance in Wayne's World 2 as a fan at the Aerosmith concert
Robert Smigel
SNL writer and cartoonist who appeared as a fan at the Aerosmith concert alongside Bob Odenkirk
Charlton Heston
Appeared in cameo as a man reminiscing about Gordon Street; credited as 'Good Actor' in the film
Tia Carrera
Played Cassandra; her chemistry with Mike Myers' Wayne character questioned by hosts regarding believability of relat...
Drew Barrymore
Made brief cameo appearance; hosts noted she looked her best in this film during her career
Heather Locklear
Played Garth's love interest; featured in hockey scene with memorable comedic moments
Mike Schulte
Primary host conducting scene-by-scene analysis and moderating discussion with co-hosts
Sean Pryor
Co-host providing production details, cast information, and critical analysis; gave film 7.9 modern rating
AJ Vance
Co-host providing critical ratings, Rotten Tomatoes analysis, and nostalgic perspective; gave film 7.2 modern rating
Josh Miller
Provided written review noting the film felt forced compared to original; gave it a 5.0 modern rating
Logan
Handled podcast production and controls during recording session
Quotes
"Everything depends on the delighted disbelief with which they greet every new victory."
Roger Ebert (via Josh Miller reading review)•Early episode
"I'm gonna be Frank. Okay, can I still be Garth?"
Dana Carvey as Garth Algar•Late in film
"Crossing the T's and dotting the lowercase J's."
Kevin Pollock as Jeff Wong•Mid-film
"You know what? Everything is going great. What else can we do? It's the danger of complacency."
Sean Pryor (analysis)•Early discussion
"I had to beat them to death with their own shoes. Nasty business, really."
Del Preston (Ralph Brown)•Multiple scenes
Full Transcript
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Well, hello, and welcome to the Confused Breakfast Podcast. Do you remember the pure joy of a trip to the video rental store as a kid? Do we have a Mike Myers? Sure, it's hard to be the- Party on, Mike. He's of the convenience of the modern streaming area. Area. I got him. But the experience of a Friday night trip to Blockbuster to make the big and sometimes tough decision of what movie was coming home with you was a truly magical experience. We're all part of the last generation that knows the joy of the search, the snap of the plastic clamshell, and we're here to revisit the movies that shaped us and defined our childhoods. My name is Mike Schulte, joining me as always. Two dudes who would give a dog a bone. Sean Pryor and AJ Vance, how the heck are you? Several bones. Every single night, yeah. Yeah, well, you have a couple of dogs. So you probably do give them bones. I go through a lot of bones. Yeah. I go to Costco to get them, the treats for- Titans. So I can give my dog a bone. As a kid, I was definitely like, yeah, that's a sign of awesomeness. Like she would treat a dog kindly. Yeah. Yeah. That was a- That's a great feature, yeah. Not the dog humping her leg. No. The other thing, yeah. Certainly misinterpreted that as a child thinking innocently, oh, yeah, dogs love bones. She seems nice. That's great. Moving on. OK. Well, boys, today's episode is powered by our friends at Big Grove Brewery. We've got some delicious, easy eddies in front of us today. Sometimes we do neighborhood. Sometimes we do easy eddy. It's truly the best way to talk classic movies with your bros, cold, crisp beer from Big Grove. Check them out in today's movie. For Eddie Van Halen. Easy Eddie Van Halen. Today's movie is 1993's Wayne's World 2. And we're going to do a scene by scene deep dive analysis on the entire movie. But first, we need to talk nostalgia, fun facts, and reviews to set the stage right off the bat. AJ, tell us your first memories of this movie and what your nostalgic rating is was. This was like, might have been all time comedy. You know those movies that just hit you at the exact perfect age and appreciation, but you're still going to have, like we said, the jokes going over your head. But things are funny. It's wacky. There's some slapstick. But then there's funny noises. And there's jokes for me, my brothers, my parents. I'm like, this is like peak comedy when this came out. And Wayne's World 2. I mean, Wayne's World 1 was amazing. And then they build off of this. I thought that there was a time in my life when I thought Wayne's World 2 was the superior Wayne's World. Maybe I still do. We'll get there. This is a nostalgic 9.3. Damn, son. Sean, what about you, man? Yeah, I love this movie. There is, we would watch Wayne's World and Wayne's World 2 all the time. The only way to decipher either of them is Christopher Walken or Rob Lowe. Or Aerosmith and Alex Cooper. Those are like the only differences. And yeah, it didn't matter. You pop one in. Is this number two and number one? I don't even know. I don't even care. Love this one. I am going to give it a 9.2. 9.2, yeah. I mean, you guys are spot on. There was, they came out so close to each other. The first one and this one, they were interchangeable. It didn't matter which one was on. You're just like, cool, I'm going to watch this. Some scenes that we will talk about later that are just ingrained into my mind forever. This is going to be a big old 8.5 for me, nostalgically. We got to go to executive producer, Josh Miller. He says, Wayne's World 2 has never sat right with me nostalgically. I love the first one, like wore out a used VHS from Blockbuster loved it. I'm pretty sure that tape had already lived three lives before it got to me and I still finished it off. It was lightning in a bottle. Everyone loved it, no debate. Then there's the sequel. I remember it feeling off, not bad exactly, just weird. Like it was trying to be the same movie, but also not and landing somewhere in that awkward middle ground. I knew the plot. I remembered a couple of jokes, but none of it stuck the way the first one did. Over the years, I've maybe watched it once or twice more, but honestly couldn't tell you the last time. Definitely 15 plus years ago, it just never pulled me back in. So now revisiting it with fresh eyes and free from the powerful distraction of vampire Paul Rudd. I'm landing at a solid five. It exists in my mind. That is it, nostalgically. So as a group, we are going to be an eight, flat out eight, if you can believe that or not. And on the grand scheme of all movies we've done, there's only one other movie that's an eight nostalgically and that is lethal weapon number one. Let's go baby. So that's tied for 53rd on our list of nostalgic movies, but we're going to strip that whole thing away because we're going to move into important details in the movie before our scene by scene dive. Sean, what do you got man? Produced by Lauren Michaels, written by Mike Myers, Bonnie Turner and Terry Turner. Just power duo. It's in the biography by Francis Kenny. He also did Heathers and Coneheads. She's all that and scary movie. Edited by Malcolm Campbell. Music by Carter Burwell, directed by Steven Sergic. He did a bunch of TV, including Monk, Psych, The Punisher series and Jessica Jones. Cast Mike Myers, Dana Carvita, Chris Verwalk and Chris Farley, Ralph Brown, James Hong, Heather Locklear, Larry Sellers. Hey, the prayers and tears of Arthur Digby Sellers. Bob Odenkirk, Robert Smigel, Drew Barrymore, Kevin Pollock, Ed O'Neill, Kim Basinger and Aerosmith. Penelope Spherus, director of the first film is said to believe that Mike Myers pretty much had her cut off from anything to do with the film or IP because of their many disagreements on the set. I'll go back to our first episode. You'll hear a lot about that. Mike Myers didn't see the point in a Wayne's World sequel until the film made a shit ton of money. So he agreed to do it in the, come on, man. In the, in lieu of him being able to write the script. The original script Mike Myers wrote with the film, he had the film Passport to Pimlico in mind. That film centers around a group of people starting their own country. So taking inspiration from that, it would be Wayne and Garth coming across the fact that Illinois never signed on to be a part of America. So they decided to start their own heavy metal country called the Kingdom of Wayne Davia. Can I stop here right there? I hate that. Thanks. I hate that. Thanks. Yeah, I don't enjoy that. You know, it's like people only do things just to get paid. It's really sad. I'm just sad. Mount Pictures were unaware of this and did not have time to get the rights to those ideas. So production was shut down. Thank God. Head of development at the time, Sherri Lansing was furious at Myers and threatened to sue him and take his house. Director Stephen Surgic. Threat, sorry. Yeah, but yeah. Stephen Surgic was brought on to helm the project after directing episodes of Kids in the Hall. She was a bitch to him and was a bitch to a lot of directors, but one of them, I forget which one, he directed some stuff for Paramount, but. And who was this? Sorry? It's the head of Paramount at the time, Sherri Lansing. Okay. She was a real bitch to him. Mike Myers was like, well, what the fuck? Like, fuck you, you know, that kind of shit. So you can kind of see that in this movie. We'll get there, but. Also, Mike Myers is not, is said to be not that great of a collaborator. We touched on the original Wayne's World episode. It took us down a little bit to hear the behind the scenes stories of how Mike Myers was not that great to Dana Carvey. And yeah. Very much wanted to kind of it to be the Wayne show, not so much Wayne and Garth as it was. Rob Lowe was actually going to be in the second film as well, but as a completely different character. Erasmus manager to be exact, who didn't have pigment in his right eye. He thought the audience would be confused as to why he's playing a different character. So he backed out and his character was split in two, walking and Pollock's characters respectively. Dana Carvey threatened to quit the project altogether because in the original script, there wasn't much for Garth to do. And he wanted Garth to have a love interest. Myers wrote in Kim Basinger's character and another character at the end to keep Carvey happy. I mean, we'll get there too, but it does add to it. Like this is, yes, it's called Wayne's World, but it's Wayne and Garth. Like we need to see them both do some stuff. During production, the film was on a tight deadline. And Stephen Sergic said that every day was just rushed, rushed, rushed. They had no time to do anything. Wayne's World 2 was released on December 10th, 1993, just one week after Mrs. Doubtfire. Whoops. And on a budget of 30 million, the film made 72 million at the box office, disappointing Paramount Pictures even further, but has gone on to be some of people's favorite one-two punch as far as comedy sequels. Well, thanks, Son. As our final segment before our scene-by-scene modern day review, we gotta go to AJ for the ratings and reviews from critics and fans alike. What do you got, bro? Well, we wanna make sure that they've crossed all the T's and dotted the lowercase J's. It's the Tomato Meter! Pooch! Grills! Intriplicate. 58% splart. The critics think that this movie is better than Spaceballs, but not as good as American Pie. Okay. That's per the movies we've done. That is what their thoughts are. Did you say better than Spaceballs? Better than Spaceballs, not as good as American Pie. Yeah, so I hate that. Me fuck Spaceballs, man. Okay. Okay. Okay. What are we doing here, guys? What are we doing here? Okay. 63% from the popcorn meter, so the audience has liked it just a smidge more and a 6.2 on IMDB. Of all the movies we've done, that is tied with Kindergarten Cop, Just Friends, and Airborne. Solid company. I like that. Love it. Roger Ebert, Chicago Sun-Times, Rajeeb, gave it a 75 out of 100. If Wayne and Garth ever grow confident of their success, the series will be over. Everything depends on the delighted disbelief with which they greet every new victory. I like that. Yeah. Ty Burr, Entertainment Weekly. It made me laugh harder than anything I've seen at the movies this year. Yeah. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Mrs. Douthire was in tears. Wow. That's a little scary if you think about it. We dissected that one. It's a little scarier than funny if you think about it. A little bit. A little bit. Rita Kempley, Washington Post. Carvey is such a lovable doofus and Myers, such a well-intentioned nape, that it's hard to get down on them, especially considering that the heirs to their niche in pop iconography are Beavis and Butthead. Sure. I like that. Why have I never heard that, by the way? Why have I only just now put that together? We are now saying that Beavis and Butthead came after Wayne and Garth. Wow. And we would not have a Beavis and Butthead without a Wayne and Garth. Wow. Wow. You heard it here first. Somebody there said it first. Yeah, but people actually heard it here first. Nobody heard it. We made the AI prompt to get the review we own it now. Yes. It is us. We created that. Yes. Song and lyrics by us. TV God magazine, the two stars have their comedy routine down to perfection, though Carvey in a series of unflattering close-ups looks old enough to play Garth's father. He's up 50 out of 100. I didn't notice. Yeah. Well, there's another one here. I'll go right from that little, little crack at Carvey to this one on Letterbox. This is a four star from Alex. Just said, Mike Myers looks like he's made a play-doh in this one. I mean, on the 4K, I guess, maybe. On a VHS in 93. You don't know that. Exactly, man. I'm just saying, maybe 4K just ain't the way to watch some of these movies, guys. 4K8. 4K8. 8. 8. That's my bumper sticker. 4K8. 4K ain't it. There it is. Find the confusedbreakfast.com. Fire today. Dude, we're killing it. Speaking of killing it, three stars overconfident, lazier, and still pretty funny. OK, OK. That's great. I mean, yeah, this tells the truth. Yeah, it's not as good as the original, but I fucking laugh. Just like, yeah, whatever. Good times. Let's see. Four stars a sequel that's more of the same as the first one, doesn't try to be any different. Usually, that would mean a weak film for me. But in this case, it didn't matter. This was funny. I was laughing throughout the entire film. The scene with Garth and Kim Basinger in a date is comedy gold. Five stars, just a quote. I had to beat them to death with their own shoes. Yes. And this is the last one here, guys. This is Zaromy Hall, which I like to think that he took this from our Aliens episode. It's got an X there. Zaromy Hall. Perfect. Six reasons why Wayne's World 2 is far superior to Wayne's World 1. Six, the kung fu scene between Wayne and Cassandra's father. Five, Honey Hornet. Four, crossing the T's and dotting the lowercase J's. Three, the village people scene. Two, Chris Farley and Christopher Walken who elevate this movie to the next level. One, I'm the Lebrick guy. This movie is hilarious. The one-liners are funnier. The stakes are higher and the characters are just better as a whole. Garth is Heather Locklear and she's signaling to us, there is a god. Heather be thy name. Shwing. Heavenly shwing. There it is. So there I am in Cedar Rapids, formerly Rapid City, at about 10 o'clock in the morning. It's going to get. Looking for 1,000 brown M&M's to fill a brandy glass or Logan wouldn't hit record on the podcast. A man pooping in the bathroom stall pops his head over the door and mentions there's a little sweet shop on the edge of town. So we go and it's closed. So there's me in Sean Pryor and AJ Vans breaking into that little sweet shop. Well, instead of a god dog, they've got this bloody great big Bengal tiger. I managed to take out the tiger with a can of mace. But the shop owner and his son, that's a different story altogether. I had to beat them to death with their own shoes. Nasty business, really. But sure enough, I got the M&M's and Logan hit record. And we did a great show. Wow. Wow. OK, grandpa. Let's go back to bed. Thank you. So scene one, Wayne Gamble and Garth Algar have moved into a new studio and completed an episode of their show, Wayne's World. Then they head out with their crew to an Aerosmith concert. They meet with Wayne's girlfriend Cassandra and are introduced to her new producer, Bobby Kahn. The duo is then denied further access backstage despite having passes. Great opening song, just right back into the mix of things. Yeah. This, the building that they're in, the decommissioned doll factory. Yeah, doll factory. That's now a babe factory. Nice. It's, it reminds me of some buildings downtown that I like I recorded in, like the cherry building downtown in Cedar Rapids. I don't know, it's just, it's just got a lot of charm to it. And like the whole loft and everything, he's got drum set and guitars everywhere. It's the dream, dude. It's so sick. Because do we ever establish how old they're supposed to be? Like they're like, they're like early 20s, mid 20s. He was one of his parents in the first one, we know that. Yeah. And in a year's past, he's a little older, a little wiser. I think they're like, young to mid 20s is what they're supposed to be and this would be the dream. Yeah. Oh my God. Oh yeah. I mean, this is, this is up there and we'll talk about in our next, next movie we're recovering to. There's in both these movies, there are people who are just living the dream. Okay. This is prime. It's just like if Big meets, Big meets like a. Non-magic. Well. Realize. Well, it's like his apartment in Big and the foot hideout. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Ninja Turtles, man. It's like this balance between the two because they can play hockey up there. They could like, they're doing it out at all. Nobody else is in that building after hours. They can just do whatever they want. Yeah. You walk in the front door, you're like, should we be here? Yeah. And you get to the studio and you're like, oh, okay, cool. Yeah. That loft lift or that lift that they have to take up. It's brilliant. What a great opening too. That's why I like these movies is like, it knows what it is. It's the break in the fourth wall talking to the camera. I love his speech to us. Like, let me tell you what's been going on. Radical. You know, and he tells us everything that's been going on. He does that speech about something, something copious, something cabetious, something cajunga, like just the way he's kind of fired up about life. He's got everything he wants, but like, what more do I need? Where, what's my direction in life? It's a really great setting to just get us back into the movie. And like, we're doing the same thing. Let's go. Let's move forward. Well, what a great start to a premise of like, you know what? Everything is going great. It's not about like some things are like things are just kind of heading downhill. We need to re-re-light the fire because the show is just not doing. It's like, no, no, everything's great. What else can we do? It's the danger of complacency. Like sometimes when you get everything you ever wanted, sometimes like you think it'll mean it'll be enough. Yeah. And sometimes it's not because now you've gotten used to what that is. Right. And you're like, yeah, but what else could I do? What else could we do, man? I mean, like we've got it all going for us. It's like, how can we complicate this? Yes. Can we complicate it? It's a script as well, too. Like in real time, you can see him trying to come up with something new for the sequel. Yeah. But like that's why I like this movie or like these two movies so much is that it is so like a fourth wall breaking. But then like you can see like the aspect, like I just said of like Mike Meyers sitting down to write this and be like, so where is Wayne and Garth going to go now? Like what should they do now? Because we could, I think we're all in a grudge. We could just stay in the babe factory this whole movie and be fine. Great. Probably. Yep. But then like he's got to, he's, he's saying to the audience like this is our, this is what this movie is about right now too. Yeah. Yeah. And then we, we get all the good stuff we always love. They're back in the Murth mobile. They're going to a concert, but they're going to stop off at the drive-thru. This drive-thru gag is still freaking. Something in it tells me that that was a little Dana Carvey influence because if you ever watched the Dana Carvey show. Yes. It was, I think it was like on for one season back in the day and the very first episode of episode one, the sketch was them going to a drive-thru, ordering like all of this stuff and like laughing. And then they get up to the door and she goes, that'll be $120 and they give her 120 and then they go, go, go, go, go. Yeah. And they drive away without their food. It's him. It's him and Steve Carell. It is Steve Carell. Like in the car and they pull this gag and it's like they give the money they pay for and then they, they race off. And that's what's so brilliant about this gag is like, you see the sign. It says, if we mess up your order, it's free. Yeah. Like we're going to mess it up. Nope. Got everything right. Damn it. Okay. So let me just read this back to you and make sure I got it all. It's just perfect. Like, yes, that's correct. Correct. Ain't drink. Garth and similar Garth is not as good at it as Wayne is because Wayne does a really good job, but Garth basically goes, I want to rest, bury drink. He like says all the filimels, but he just pauses. For moaning a pet, you know that they run on their own logic. Jump first, run first, think later, ask questions. Never. It's part of what makes them so lovable, but it's also how you end up with those surprise vet visits you didn't see coming. 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I think he like had a radio show and he he drew from like experiences on the radio to be this character, I guess. And this is a great example of where the movies like blend together for me. For some reason, I was thinking that he they were a callback from the first one or something. And then I realized like, no, this is this is a new thing. This is a new gag, you know. And I I totally thought for some reason it was a pullback from the first one. It's not speaking of pullbacks. They didn't do I was bummed to not see Michael Del Luis in this. Yeah, I know as Alan. He was one of the main cronies. He's our boy at Matt Wilson from Encino Man. Oh, yes. They bring back neat Neil is the new side guy. He was in the first one, but now he's sort of more of a an immediate friend role here. But yeah, no, Michael Del Luis was a bummer, but I think lovable face for me for both movies is Terry. Terry Terry's the other buddy. Love you, man. OK, he's he's so great. Oh, you don't know I do, man. Just say just say thank you. Good crew, man. Yeah. So can I say? Phil, you're partied out. Sorry. Can I say about Aerosmith and Dude Looks Like a Lady? I think we've gone on record on on this show saying I fucking hate that song. I think you've gone on record. Seventies, Aerosmith kicks ass. Yeah. But I will say to like from the seventies to early nineties, there were still cranking out hits, you know, get a grip came out like three to three months before this album came out, before this movie came out. The chorus to Dude Looks Looks Like a Lady sucks because it's Dude Looks Like a Lady. It's so annoying. It's it's like an alarm clock to me. But the verses fucking sick, dude. Yeah, it's very bluesy. It's so good, man. And it's like a lot of Joe Perry shining through with like those those guitar riffs like and him kind of driving, I think kind of driving that song through there. And then, yeah, you get to the chorus and you're just like, it's so much going for it. You know what I mean? It just has so much going for it. So sick. I agree with you listening to I'm not going to put that song on to listen to it. Yeah. But watching Aerosmith in in a bit of their prime, people would say they I think they had gone sober at this point and they were like extremely clean eating, no drugs, no alcohol, like they look dope. They look like rock stars. And I buy this completely. I'm like in the crowd going, this would be so sick. I don't know if it's like because it's a live version. This seems like a different version. It is. Yeah. Because they do like the whole intro to it and then they stop and then it doesn't that happen in the song. It's the way it busts in is so fucking sick. I don't even know. But here it really works. It's like, yeah, you feel like you're in part of the crowd. You can see it's like it's definitely the pace is like jumped up on it. You know what I mean? It's definitely like a little bit faster pace. It feels like like a faster tempo. And then I think what you're when you're talking about is like when they stage stage dive or whatever, or fall back and they're like, OK, this feels weird. Garth, somebody just grabbed my butt. Have you guys were you guys ever stage divers at concerts? Yeah. So like crowd surfing, like you've done that a bunch of times. Less crowd surfing and more stage diving. Yeah. So it's their hand in hand. You'd stage dive and then usually you get crowd surfed a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. I mean, I guess. But like if you're crowd surfing, it's usually like gravity and I'm a bigger guy. So we're not going to take you. We don't like this guy anymore. Hey, we're here to support you and help you down. Yeah. OK. That's great job. We're going to do a great job doing that. Yeah. I was always scared of it. Like I mean, I get in the pit and like Mosh a little bit, but like getting up there. And I don't know. I only did it one time in my life and it just so happened to be the most perfect experience of my life that I'll never do it again. I was watching death tones after white pony had come out and I said, fuck it, I'm going to do it. And I got up there and I was being crowd surfed while he was doing knife party, saying I could float here forever. It's like, I'm in heaven. I mean, and I will never do this ever again. And I didn't plan it that way. I just happened. I go, yeah, I could float again. Fuck, I can't float here forever. Somebody dropped me. I was always way too scared of just everything falling out of my pockets. I just never wanted to. You went to the merch table before that. You got your T-shirts. Yeah. Like, oh, dude, okay. So you're holding a vinyl. Can we go? Dude, that was basically me after city and color, like at Valar Ballroom because it wasn't a massive show and it was kind of intimate for like Valar. And it's just like kind of a really cool, great show. And I definitely bought like a lot of stuff at that merch table. But dude, Bob Odenkirk and Robert Smigel. Amazing cameos. Was it Mr. Show? What was that there? Yeah. Smigel was like Saturday Night Live. A lot of stuff with that. He did all the cartoons, cartoon stuff. And then and yeah, Bob Odenkirk was is a prolific was a prolific writer and and I think sketch comedy guy. I think Mr. Show, it was him and David Cross. OK, OK. That did that. But these two guys come into this in the most perfect, brilliant way to be the guys that it's like it's like Wayne and Garth have this like look into their alter egos if they can't get backstage anymore. You know what I mean? Because like every that it's like that whole thing happens. We can talk about that too. But I just had to touch on Smigel and Odenkirk, man. They're like punishers. They're like, you know, I'm sure you've you've had it, Mike, but like people will come up to you after a show and they're just like, man, that was that was like so cool. So what's like like holding drumsticks? Like you're like, I'm the guitar player. I am I am so happy and excited that people like what I do. But like sometimes I do not want to talk at a show. And that's what these guys like. I think they're fans of Wayne and Garth, too. So they recognize you're the Wayne in the Wayne world, Wayne world. It's like, OK, yeah, we're just we're seeing Aerosmith. You know, listen, I know I know it's easy to go back to a movie and be like, oh, my God, there's Bob Odenkirk, you know, but this is Bob Odenkirk's first on screen appearance in a movie. Wow. And so when you saw this as a kid, you don't know who this guy is. And in 2026, going back in time and turning on Wayne's World, too, and seeing Bob Odenkirk in a nerdy role, he goes, it's 40 minutes. Door to door. Door to door. You're just like, isn't it cool being downtown? It's maybe two of the coolest appearances that you would have never known about. But going back in time, you're like, wow, we got these two guys in this movie without knowing who they were. My mom gave me a dollar and dropped me off at the parking right. All right, man, I have to go. I don't know where I'm going to go, but I have an appointment somewhere. I can't be here anymore. So, yeah. But that's also brings up the like majorly shame on Cassandra here. Oh, yeah. This is like, it didn't bother me when I was a kid, but now I'm like, wait a minute, Cassandra, you know that Wayne and Garth are here. Well, they've already established themselves as your boyfriend and his best friend. We see each other. We've talked. Yeah. Bobby, this guy you just met, this record producer is bringing you in. You should be wondering where your boyfriend and his friend are. And even like five minutes later to be like, oh, where'd they go? Oh, shit. They're out there. Hey, Bobby, can you can you get them in here? And she never does. Yeah. Kind of shameful. All it takes. It's like, even if Bobby doesn't want to do it, even if it was like somehow it was part of his plan that they didn't come through the gate. It's like all she has to do is just make that comment. And Bobby's going to have to do it. He's going to have to. He's the producer. You've got to keep your artist happy. That's it. That's the job of the producer and to get a great album. Right. So but Christopher Walken plays his part. Fucking great. And like, I think, honestly, I don't know. I don't know if he's a better, like bad guy or antagonist than Rob Lowe. I think they both did did really solid in the whole thing. But Christopher Walken with those dance moves, he's a real dancer, too. Yeah. I mean, he's got it going. Yeah, I mean, that's that's the thing. Like you differentiate the two movies, at least in my mind with them. Um, I think there's a little tinge of Christopher Walken just kind of doing this for the paycheck, but I mean, that he doesn't do anything like that. It's not 100 percent for the paycheck. Like he's here. I think he's having a lot of fun with the role. He doesn't have much to do as far as like comedy, where I know he can do that because we've done Blast from the past, you know. But like because he's got to be like the straight laced kind of evil character. But like in that aspect of his character, especially when they're watching Wayne's World earlier, he's like, these are your friends. You hang out with these guys like his look. Like she's laughing at one of the jokes. He looks at her. He's like, he looks back. The same condescending man. He I hate him worse than I'd hate Rob Lowe. Like I think he's a worse, a scarier villain than Rob Lowe was in the first one. It's because Rob Lowe starts off being so likeable. Yes. Like even though it's not likeable from the get go. Yeah, we know we know that his intentions are not good. But Rob Lowe just comes through and just shines with his personality. Speaking, speaking Cantonese, like on the phone, order food, Mountain Dew, Pepsi Cola and then AJ. I don't know anything about movies. And I find what you just said fascinating. Wow. At least trying. Yeah. Christopher Walker is like the start. I rewatched the first one, too. It's my favorite line. It's so great, dude. And like, but yeah, like and you're right. Christopher Walken at no point is trying to be is trying to shine through for anybody other than maybe Cassandra here and there. I think this was the first time I ever saw a walk in on film. I'm pretty sure I know he had a few things before this that I have gone back and seen. But I think this is the first time I saw him. Do you have any idea how old Christopher Walken was when he filmed this movie? I mean, I'm going to take a guess. OK, I am going to the reason I'm bringing it up means it's probably crazy. It's got to be kind of obnoxious. I feel like so I'm going to say 48. Yeah, you got to guess. I was going to guess around there. I'm going to guess 45. He was 50 years old when he filmed this. The man, whatever he's doing, maybe dancing is the key. Dancing. But my god, the dude just looks so good. It's so good. Like he passes off as like a late 30s guy in this. I think so. I did see a TikTok the other day where they were showing all these actors in like the mid to early 90s showing up at like an Oscars on the red carpet. And they truthfully like looked so fresh and so like no stress. And like just the world was just different back then. Everybody just looks like they're carrying so much more weight and baggage and social media. And back then they're just like, I do movies. I show up. Yeah. Yeah, they didn't have to manage an Instagram account. Yeah. So they could show up to the red carpet and make it worthwhile. You know, they just had to show up and just be movie stars, not content creators. How many followers do you have? Because that's how we're going to hire you for this Warner Brothers project. Yeah. That's stress. Yeah. Instead of I'm good. Did you see my last movie? Yeah, it made a lot of money. And I was also very good in it. The the running bits are like just the small bits throughout this movie or what I love about it, too, just like when they when they do crowdsurfing, get into like the the security area. Everyone like pitting or like crowdsurfing a fridge and the pizza guy. A goat. A goat comes over. What do we do? I don't know what this what this is, but I love this shit. Yeah. Yeah. And then it's it's the great callbacks that they have when they do get cut off. And it's like, well, my girlfriends in there, hey, a lot of people's girlfriends. Iconic. It's amazing. It's maybe one of the greatest lines in history. Yeah. That that like is true. Yeah. Hey, a lot of people's girlfriends. A lot of people's girlfriends. And they know right away they go denied because they know there's nothing there's nothing you can do. Yeah. Hit it. If we were on a train to go punch a face, I'm on board. There this is a nominee for of the year for me. It's the the disgustingly gross looking ponytail executive Scott that gets called over by Bobby and that inserts like gets in front of Lane and gets right in Cassandra's face and is like looking at her tits and stuff like that. Oh, God, I'm so glad that for the most part, it feels like we've been able to get away from this type of a gross person in power in the music and the movie business. Yeah. I know. I know we'll never get away from that. But like I remember watching this in 93 going, yeah, that's got to be hot. You know, you got to got to please these guys if you want to get your record deal. But now hopefully we've gotten away from that because fuck this guy. Yeah, I hate this guy. Yeah, I don't have anybody written down. But and I the only reason I hated him is because he like butted himself in between him and Cassandra. But yeah, I mean, like even sharp. Yeah. Oh, God. I could I would argue like it just like the scuminess of like talent gathering is just it's just gross. Yeah. A lot of times whoever it is that plays Frank Sharp, Frankie Sharp or whatever. Is he the same guy from the first one? Same guy. And I think he is some sort of a producer or something like that. He was the record exact. He was actually in like the music industry. I believe so. But they're like his mostly because it feels like we just oh, it's kind of a get to have him on here or something and play this kind of a guy because his line delivery is not great. We know. He's like, what's this thing I keep here? Wayne stock. What's this? Bobby, I don't know. You just got to get it done. Get it. And we want a good record. And it's like, OK, where's your cigar? And where's your phone? I'm talking on my cell phone in the 90s. And like he's got he's got another 90s ponytail just like that guy. Do 90s ponytails were the worst? Were the worst trend? Especially Skullet pony. Skullet ponytails. Think about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, too. Secret of the use. Think of how many ponytails 90s Skullet ponytails were throughout that movie. And they just like really hung their hat on it. They should have hung a lot of hats. I guess there should have been more fedoras in that movie, I think. Well, seen to that night, Wayne has a dream in which he meets Jim Morrison and a weird naked Indian in the desert. Morrison convinces Wayne that his destiny is to organize a major music festival. Wayne and Garth dub the concert Wayne stock and hire a former roadie, Del Preston. Naked Indian. This is what I think about when I think about this movie as well, like the dream sequences and Jim Morrison, especially because like I watched this movie probably around the time that I was really into the doors and watched the movie, the doors, the poetry and stuff like that. I think this is how I writing poetry. Oh, this is the greatest writer in human history. Yeah, Jim Morrison. He knows exactly what's going on. Yeah. But the guy who plays him pretty good, Jim Morrison, you know, I'm going to I'm going to hit the button. Oh, my God. It like this is this Jim Morrison portrayal takes me like probably a point five lower grade in my modern day. It's it's it's not my favorite thing. It's it's like a guy who just said, hey, you're a dead 70s kind of frontman sex god, but it's not who's very carefree. So just do that. Well, who am I trying to be? Am I trying to be like someone specific? No, I do. Right. Just just be this. And we're going to put sunglasses on you. OK, great. So wait, there's a it's like you're going to put on a concert if you if you put if you book them, they will come. Yeah, no shit. I'm like. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Let me get bro. Hold on. Let me write this down. You say that if I if I book this band, they'll they'll show up and play the concert. Yeah, usually. Fuck, this is mind blowing. Hold on a second. Wait a second here. My experience that that is 100 percent what happens when you book a band. Yeah, holy shit. OK, well, geez, you changed my life. Well, yeah, you go. Thank you. Good luck, buddy. This this thank thank God this deep spiritual experience happened to tell me one oh one about booking a concert. But if you watch interviews with Jim Morrison, it's not far off. Him like you got to just be chill, man. Maybe I just want to. Maybe I just wanted Val Kilmer. And apparently Mike Myers wrote the role for Val Kilmer to reprise. Oh, and like they were close, like they were close to having it happen. But Val was he had to pass. He was doing Tombstone and like he's like, I'm in on this, man. Like I'm incredibly major star at the time. I'm a major star and he he's like this is cool. I love the idea because Val Kilmer. I can't wait till we do the door someday. Val Kilmer is Jim Morris. I mean, I don't even see the real Jim Morrison anymore. I see Val Kilmer playing Jim Morrison. Yeah, so that maybe that's why I have so much trouble with this guy because it's like you got you don't even look like him. I know. And I think that's exactly what it is. Yeah. The famous photo of like the black and white with his arms out like this, Jim Morrison. Like they did the recreation of of Val Kilmer doing that. And I'm like that it's like I can't do better. No, no, no, it's anything but you know. Well, did you hear the song logo? I don't know, man. You lyrics, you know, it didn't do lyrics. So they did. Oh, here's a prop. I've never been more sure of a prop in my entire life watching a movie only because I wanted it and I never got it. It's the Sports Illustrated Football Phone. OK, did you guys ever? I mean, like I remember thinking this is something I need watching like late night infomercials and I couldn't believe when I saw it in this movie how small it was. Because I thought it was I thought it was like a real size football that you're like, oh, oh, but I never got one. And I would love to have one now. OK, well, you can have that. I want the Stanley Cup 100 years of glory VHS. Yeah. Was there a Flyers logo on the front of that? Yes, there's a Blues logo too. I don't know why because we had one a cup. Go Flyers. Go Flyers. Well, hey, a hundred hundred years of history of the Blues not having a cup. Correct. That's what it is. Maybe it's just the fact that they were there three years in a row and the famous Bobby or diving play was against the Blues to win the cup. Like, yeah, it makes sense. Lovable losers. Thank God you guys can have draft beer down there finally. Great. But you know. What do what I don't know. I don't know what that meant. I don't either. Well, they just finally got a cup. There it is. We would have won in 2020 if it wasn't for covid too. So yeah, well, big deal. Excuse us. Thanks, universe. So no, I don't even know what we're talking about. Prop. Oh, good. Prop. I'm going to say for now, I'm going to say Garth's. Goalie hockey stick. Nice. With his head topper thing. It's pretty annoying. That it's so annoying. But also pretty good. I always thought I always thought when I was a kid because I think that's after they meet Pollock and that other girl. If they're playing hockey after that. Yeah, they're playing hockey after that. And I always thought like, how did he get ahead of the girl? Or like a first one, the adult thing of the girl is like, was it? I think it was. And I think it's supposed to be him. No, it's got to be him. Yes. But for some reason, my brain went like, oh, it's cool. It's like, because that's his girlfriend. It's going to be his girlfriend. He already likes her a lot. That's how he shows it. Wayne Stack. Yeah. That's like he's projecting the kind of girlfriend he wants. It just looks exactly like. It looks exactly. They say you like, yeah, you marry a gif. You're a girl, you marry somebody who reminds you of your dad. It's like, no, I just marry somebody who reminds me of me because I want to marry myself. I'm pretty positive that like in today's day and age, if you start looking at couples, it's because we've seen ourselves so much on social media, like people have this underlying narcissism that they just find somebody who looks like the opposite sex version of them. I think it happens way, often. That's why you get brother or dating or siblings or dating. Step steps. No, just siblings or dating. They do that now. Oh, yeah. Oh, cool. Wade, what? It's not like porn. It's just like a like a thing. Like you go through a bunch of pictures. You're like siblings or dating. You got to try and tell. I don't like this. Do you understand what he meant? I don't think you don't understand. I don't want that. OK, then it's porn. OK. Oh, I've seen that one. I've seen that one. I got you guys. Yeah, man. The watermelon crates and the paint glass and the chicken crates. I love I think this is the first slap in the face. Mike Myers is doing to Paramount in this movie because of just like the tropy nature of this. Yes. I love. I love just calling it out and be like, I wonder if this is going to come back later. It seems innocuous. I that's fucking brilliant comedy to me. And we'll talk about later. But when it happens, you're just like, it's kind of glorious. Oh, yeah. To be honest with you. I mean, it's like, oh, yeah. Bobby's job is just to carry these watermelons back and forth and just just make sure there's plenty of watermelons stocked here. Well, you must like a fruit stand or no, no, no. It's just making sure we have plenty of watermelons right here in the middle of this street. OK. Huh. It's like we're not doing anything. Oh, yeah. Their job is just to walk back and forth with a pane of glass, you know, just every every five minutes or so. It's like, are they putting some glass somewhere? Like a new window? No, no, they just carry it back and forth. Huh. OK. I wonder if this will pay off at any point. And of course, but then they wait long enough. Normally that would pay off like when they come back out. Yes. Yeah, yeah. But you forget about it. They forget about it. They'd come out and there'd be like a high speed chase happening and they'd see it happen, right? And then maybe we'd get it even again with. But no, they just wait long and until we've forgotten. And sometimes it doesn't pay off. Like, you know, they clear it. We know what kind of movie this is. They're telling us that this is going to pay off later. But then they get on this airplane and they talk about, I can't believe they're flying us to Europe and they want it to be as fake as possible. I listened to some commentary from the director. He said that they made a fake airline thing to show it flying and it still wasn't fake enough. Like they had to go back and like make thicker wires and like make the background look dumber to really drive the point home to like, this is a fake airplane. You have to know that this is fake because that's part of the joke. And then and then when they land, it's clearly stunt doubles. Like they had to really make them look more like stunt doubles. Paramount is spending the money to fly us to England. I would have thought they would just use two doubles. Yeah. And apparently in the test screenings, people didn't understand. Like they that was not enough. They had to really drive it home. This is fake. It makes me wonder even to the point of like, we had to we had to make it look even worse that like it makes me wonder if when they did 4K, like re-renderings, like remasterings of this movie, if they didn't realize that and they tried to make it so you couldn't see the shit. You know what I mean? Like, oh, we're supposed to make it look really clean. But then again, that shows the seams of like, you know, effects. Yeah. And they tried to probably have to dumb it down again. I mean, they didn't see it because they didn't get the joke of it. You know what I mean? They might as well have made a paper airplane. It was fucking great. It looks that ridiculous. That that is really fucking stupid to me. Like because it wasn't dumb enough because they paramount like obviously like definitely couldn't afford to take them to England and film in England. They just had like some somebody with like a video camera probably in and they did it themselves, you know? Yeah. It's really, really. But like this is the slap in the face that I love about Mike Myers. It's really punk rock for him to do this kind of shit. And to poke fun at like the ridiculousness of I had to make this sequel. Basically, I have to like I was contracted that they were threatened to take my house and everything. So I'm going to get some fuck yous in there, you know, just of like the ridiculousness of movie making in general. Speaking of punk rock, you get Del Griffith. Oh, dude, I'm making a case for loveable face, but I am giving a confusing nomination for, I guess, best, best comedic side character. You know what I mean? Just whatever it has to be will come up with a better title for it. This guy is fucking amazing. It's genius writing for Del Griffith because when he is introduced here, he's the coolest motherfucker you've ever met. Like the dude sleeping upside down. He knows all this. He's been all these cool places. Yeah. He's so he's telling us the story for the first time. They're like, oh, my God, this is an incredible story. But it's so funny because as the movie goes on, everybody completely tires of him. Oh, God, yeah. It's genius. Ralph. Ralph Brown is his name. He plays Del Preston. Oh, sorry. Del. Why do I say Del Griffith? Del Preston. John Candy airplane. Is that it? Plane strange. That's Del Griffith. Yeah. That's that. You know what? I said that a bunch of times in my head, though, actually. In fact, as I was speaking, I was like, I wonder if I could work in like a fan theory about how he's related to Del. Oh, sorry, everybody. That was like 10 minutes of talking before we got to the real name. Del Griff, Del Preston. Del Preston plays this out and it's so amazing. And by the way, for for this whole idea of Wayne explaining to him, like, yeah, so and so came to me in a dream. It's like I had a dream and they said that you were going to help me put on this rock concert. He's like, I don't do concerts anymore. It's just like he's going through the book. Is this you with Led Zeppelin? Yes, it is. Who's the old lady? That's my old lady. Like he just has an old lady that comes with him. It's like an accessory. What a fucking amazing joke. Who's the old lady? That's my old lady. What an accent, too. I have to ask you, did you find it completely unnecessary that the Indian was naked? Yes, I had the exact same dream. He's so great. He's so freaking great, man. Unfortunately, I had to beat them to death with their own shoes. But but we went on to get we got the candy. Do you guys know why? Why this is based on apparently a true story. It actually was maybe ZACDC. Some band made sure that this was on their rider, that there was only brown M&M's. Do you know why most people think that's like just a fuck you thing? Like I can put whatever I want on my rider. But you know the real reason why bands do that? No. The real reason to put something extremely weirdly unique in there is to make sure that they read it, that they read all the documentation that you sent. So if you can walk into a dressing room and see something like a bowl of just brown M&M's, you know that they find tooth combed your technical rider, that they did all the stuff because whatever band this was started doing this because they had specific specifications for their stage that the people did the promoters did not read and the stage collapsed. Wow, because they didn't read the the rider. So bands will throw in weird little things that they can notice upon walking right into the room that like they got it. OK, that makes a lot of sense. Football helmet, full of cottage cheese. Same thing. Like if you if that shows up, you're like they read it. Oh, good. The stage is intact. Keep right. It's a foot. We're good. You want to trust a stage. Yeah, you need to. You need to. It's like an elevator. Like I just I walk into him and I'm like, this has to work. It's just have to try. Yeah, there's a certificate here. OK, cool. I have to trust this. Yeah. I have no choice. Oh, cool. There's a taxidermy poster in the elevator. I'm good. I'm good. Then they then it's them flying back. It's the same thing. It's just they went the other way with the fucking plan. One shot. Did you get it? All right. Turn around. Did you get it? All right. Great. I'm really excited that you're coming on back with this. Dale is like, yeah. That's all that's happening. I'm telling you exposition. Exactly. This is the exposition. And that's this is what happened is happening right now. And by and then the also the overlying just the classic comment about Piccadilly Circus. Yeah, yeah. Not looking like a circus. Doesn't look like not much of a circus. It's a crappy circus. But like then he's going back and then he's telling the story again. Yep. And I love that again. Like and everybody's enthralled until they it gets like the third or fourth time later on, like you're saying, it's just fucking great. It's just a great through line that people slowly because he's such a real person. He's just like, I'm who I am. And these are my stories that I tell. And by the time they've heard it the fourth or fifth time, you got buddies like that or family members where they tell you the same story. Oh, yeah. And yeah, I try to always be like, oh, yeah, you told us that. You know, you try to I'm pretty certain that Del Prescent does not remember who he told this story. No, that's correct. He he's having a little bit of trouble later on in life. Now, these babies tend to heat up. So make sure you're shooting them in three seconds burst. But he pulls that out of any questions. Now, in the inventive capture, I'll personally be distributing cyanide capsules to be placed under the tongue like so. The best is he like puts it under his under his tongue. Any questions? Yeah. When did you become a total nut bar? Like it's the best. Everything about this guy is incredibly quotable and so outlandish. And you just I just want more of Del Preston. Anytime he's not on screen, I just want him there in the background just doing something goofy. That's all I want. I just want it so bad. The Jurassic Park scene doesn't really work anymore to me. I just like how that they have like the the soda machine in the car. Like the Jurassic Park scene guys, right? Yeah, because it it came out six months before this or something like that. It just doesn't really work for me, but like the small little jokes, like the Kennedy and the dentist kind of thing. Yeah, it's just so fucking funny. It's like for some reason, like I'm almost on the opposite side where it's like I don't get the whole the whole dentist chair thing. It's just like why he's there in the concert. And that's the flashback or something. But then the. No, it was it was like relating it to like him, him, like his parents taking him to it. And like it was like pulling teeth or like getting a fucking. Oh, that's how you took it. So I. OK, this is actually kind of deep. I was just like I took it as any time he goes to the dentist. He hears Kenny G. No, maybe his dentist listens to Kenny G. And like it's a bad reminder. But that's also weird then that he's at the concert, though. Yeah. Oh, that's actually fucking great. I had no idea. I had I did not. It went real deep on this, man. That's amazing. And but the in the Jurassic Park thing, it's like just adding that in there is another it's like a it's just a popular movie pop culture callback. Just like the cop from Terminator. Yeah. You know, having Robert Patrick show up and say, have you seen this boy and then him driving off? It's just another one of those things. It's like it didn't have to happen, but it did. And it's funny, I think. Yeah, I think certain bits about it is funny. 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I think you said it'd be cool if Rob Lowe showed back up as a completely different character, but I'm a big fan of the fact that that didn't work out and that gave us Christopher Walken and that gave us Kevin Pollock here. Yeah. This is part of the reason why I just have always loved Kevin. Kevin Pollock is he just kind of is a bit of a chameleon and he can do so many different roles. This is awesome. This is a great role for it. It's so funny. It's this guy was fucking busy in the 90s, man. Dude, yeah, like we grumpy old men. Grumpy old men would have just come out. I think we did usual suspects, usual suspects. And then a movie right after that, he was in as well at the same year, I guess. But and then this, I think he's been in, like, what, five or six movies that we've done. He's approaching higher up on the ladder at this point for some of the movies we've done. It's kind of crazy. And yeah, I mean, this this whole bit is like, where do you come up with a bit like this? Like, do you come up with like the joke of crossing the T's and dying the lower case? J's first casino. Yes, that's right. Well, I like to think that I have an eye for details. Everybody's just like the last one is where it's what was the last joke that he said? It's a lower case J's lower case J's. The whole office stopped and looked lower case J's taught that you cross the T's and dot the lower case J's. Which is actually pretty genius, because it's always cross the T's, not the eyes. Like you to think that quickly. If you said quick, what else do you dot? I would be like, oh, yeah, eyes. I don't know. Like, I mean, we all know it lower case J as a dot, but I don't think of it that way. Umlaut, I don't know. Q the eyes have it. It's like, you know that they came up with a bit. It's like they this came from they wanted to make a joke about like somebody's eyes because of these jokes that they priority wrote. How do we get there? There's our baseline. He's got it's a optical or albinism. Like perfect 2020 vision in both eyes. Both eyes. Why would we want to look at that weird eye? What? What do you mean? I do want to bring something up about. I think we talked about this in the first Wayne's World Review is the Cassandra Wayne dynamic because Tia Carrera is one of the most charming, beautiful people on the face of this earth. And I question in the first one. The believability of their relationship. It's it still hits me a little bit in this. We've got that scene where he's like, I'm falling. I love you. I'm falling again. And he he's just hanging out with her. She's so cool. She's bringing vinyls over. She's just a kick ass. Everyone has framed. It comes a lot. Frampton. Get that the fuck out of here. Everyone. It comes with like when you he said like when you apply for a library card, it comes with you. It comes with it. I do know there's a probably a trillion copies of that out. But like, yeah, I just it's just a weird relationship. It doesn't ever feel like they are actually dating to me in these two movies. Yeah, it seems like if you think that you question the relationship, I think he does as well, which is, which is, I guess, fun and like kind of relatable, to be honest. It's like, how did I land this chick, you know? But like the out of the blue and he does it in the first one, too. He's like, are you having an affair with Bobby? Are you are you fucking Ben Benjamin in the first one? You know, like he it's just. Out of nowhere. Maybe he's poking you. It's kind of. I think you should leave. Even even the fact that she like, OK, let me ask you this. Do either of your wives call you by your last name? No, can't stand that she calls them Campbell. It this is a it's a weird dynamic that they have because I know it's probably just like they're acting and like they're they're just bringing professionals on set or whatever. But it doesn't seem like they're together. It seems like they're just friends hanging out who like are very close. But the movie wants you to think that they're boyfriend and girlfriend. And she's like, why do you like her? He's like, why do you like being with me? He's like, I love being with you and like kisses him on the cheek. And it's just I don't think they ever kiss on the lips. Yeah, neither. Weird. Yeah. That's a good point. And it's it is it always just seems a little bit just. I don't want to say heavy handed, but there's just always just a little bit of a gap. You're right. And and it but especially when her and James Wong show up at department and they're they're both like dressed really nice and you have way. Traditional garb. Yeah, she like goes back to her like old country clothes. Yeah. With him. And it's like, I don't know. One, it's like, OK, this is this is great. And then all of a sudden, like when he starts speaking Cantonese again, I'm like, there's like, can you not do it that way? You know what I mean? It's just like, not only one, it's like, dude, just like, ah, it's like nails on a chalkboard the way he's kind of doing it over the top like that. And but then when this for some reason, man, I was a kid. This was the scene of all scenes. The fight. I think it might still be the best scene. I'm not sure. It's it's James Wong is is a genius. Number one, number two, the we should speak in dubs or something like that. So good. It's like, ah, wait, if you want my daughter, you're going to have to fight me. And if you notice, they're just they're just having him say those exact lines very slowly. Oh, really? Very slow. So he's like, especially in the phone call later when he's like, my daughter's getting married. He's he makes money. That's what that's what counts. He's saying those lines. It's just very slowed down. I mean, it's like the footage is a slow down. They're just like the direction probably was just say these lines slower, you know. Wait, you are a great warrior. Not right. I have another for my daughter. Choosing another there. There was a nice fun fact that I read. So I think I think he said this in the first one, the seesaw. Binduwa seesaw Binduwa. Binduwa. That he says that to him on the phone as if it were a way of saying goodbye. But it actually in Cantonese means where is the toilet? So from the first one, from the first one on, he's been yelling, where is the toilet? Where is the toilet? Which is important if you're going to go to the home country. You want to know that you want to know how to say that. Food may not sit well with you when you go over there for the first time. You want to know where that toilet is. Yeah, there's there's 10 important lines you need to know in any language if you're going to visit a foreign country. And that's definitely at the top of the list. Where's the bathroom? Yeah, absolutely. Don't they a star? Albonitario. Albonitario. Alsonitario. The cheese is old and moldy. Heinzweinjai. I don't know. It's whatever you say. It just sounds angry. The knock it off at the Swiss talk. The the fight itself. The like I love James Hong. James Wong. James Wong. I think it's Hong, isn't it? I thought it was Wong. I'll look it up. His you're right. He's he's such a good actor. And I love the. Oh, sorry. James is James Hong. His name in this is Jeff Wong. Yes. You can call me Jeff. That your tongue is quick, but you are. But how are you with the sword? Oh, no. Oh, no. It's just so good. He was 64 in this movie and he did. The director said he did a lot of the fight scenes. Oh, I bet. And he was just a delight. Everybody was so pumped to have him on screen. Goes down the stairs on his hands. That maybe wasn't him. I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't put it past him, to be honest. But like, you see, I'm fluid and in all the in all the whatever, in all the styles, the monkey, the monkey, the rat, the bat, the bat, the rat, the monkey, the beetle. How about how about Garth's first meeting with Miss Horney, Horney at the at the Laundry Detergent? Oh, yeah. Something about. Ain't those Chinese secret. Oh, so Calgon. Something about those little teeny tiny underwear has always stuck with me. I don't know what it is. I always made me afraid that if I went to a Laundry Man, I would shrink all my clothes. But man, when he Garth's delivery of some of these lines, he's like, I like them teeny and toasty. Teeny and toasty. We never we never get enough Garth in these movies to really just appreciate how damn good Dana Carvey is. I think it's up to level in this one. It's come up a little bit more because of the like I want to love interest kind of thing. And like, I think it's well deserved. And I think he's right to want more scenes because I think his scenes are almost why I'll say what I say later that like I maybe like this movie more than the first one. Maybe cliffhanger, bro. I think it's a I think he elevates this movie, especially like his scenes with Kim Basinger. Yeah. Really good. The the shot when they're and she's handing him the tidy body, like touches him a little bit. I always do that on accident with someone like handing him my coffee. I'm like, I wasn't I you just you kind of handed it weird. I wasn't trying to do that. By the way, since our with a vengeance episode, I've been leaving notes and ran places that say game over. That's really fun. That's amazing. I'm having a great time. We're having a good time. Big fan of that. I do want to do want to just go on record that I always thought now you bringing it up. It's like I always thought that like that laundry mats would be a much more like influential part of my life. Like this is where like all the meat cutes happen. It's where just like life really like launches, it seems is at the laundry mats. It might have been in the 80s, 90s, like at least throw a little bit of possibility out to that. The thing of it is, is like I was never living in a place where the laundry mat was the was a good idea. We went a couple of times to the laundry mat when we had like a lot of stuff that we needed to wash, but it was a drive. It's not like in the city where it's like, oh, I'm going down to the laundry mat to, because it's like right down in a block over. You know what I mean? But everything seems to happen, including meeting Honey Hornet. Honey Hornet. You're totally right. Like when I was single, I asked everybody like, where do we meet? Where do I meet people? Church. People were like, don't meet girls at bars because you don't want those kinds of girls. I'm like, sometimes. I'm not going to do. Sometimes I do. I'd like to hang out. Sure. It sounds like I kind of want it. Hey, I know why I'm fair. I'm not wearing laundry mats. And I'm just like, who the fuck goes to like Bertha? I'm not trying to meet a 60 year old Bertha. No, I'm not about it. Doris? Yeah, Doris. Yeah. Agatjarf. I'm not trying to meet a jarf. You meet some real interesting characters there. You might meet a friend. All right. Maybe they're just your laundry buddy. Yeah, dude. That's it. I met my wife at a bar and look what happened. Oh, here we are. What happened? Exactly. Here we are. OK. We created life, got married, bought a house, created life. And last night I got projectile vomited right into my mouth from two feet away from a four year old. So I was just reading a comment that said, you look like a 60 year old virgin. Yeah. Well, 60 year old look like, yes, virgin, no. At least two times. Let's go. That's my fucking boy. I created life. He's got the vomit in his mouth to prove it. And the best part was is I did then clean my vomit out of my beard and everything. It took about a 30 minute shower. So you she vomited in your mouth and then you vomited as well? OK. My four year old vomited onto me. I cleaned it and I was like, cool, maybe we'll get some kissing in. You know, and then kissing started. She's like, I still smell my child's vomit in your beard. I'm like, well, that's. Then we're screwed for a long time because I just spent 30 minutes on this. Yeah, we're going to need to get you some new beard oils. I have to shave this whole thing off. You're going to have to restart. You're going to have to get this game over. Shave it, start fresh. Just let it go, man. You got it. Scene four after a fundraiser at Comrades, Wayne and the crew spy on Bobby and Cassandra. Wayne and Cassandra break up. Meanwhile, Garth continues his relationship with Honey Hornet and Wayne and Garth stop by the radio station to continue their promotion tour. Garth ends the relationship with Honey after her strange proposition. Chris Farley back in a bigger role here. I love this shit. I hate my father. I hate my life. But I feel great, man. I feel great, man. I'm going to go pick a fight. He seems he's doing a lot better, didn't you say? Yeah. Well, think about Chris Farley at this time. He hasn't quite. I think Tommy Boy was 94. Was like his real launch pad of like into the real leading role. But he'd done a lot of side roles on this. He's Saturday Night Live guy. Like it was always like, oh, yeah, that guy. But now looking back, you're like, dude, Chris Farley, man. You could see the genius in him from day one. It was always his own brand. Always. He's always just kind of Chris Farley, which everyone loves. I love you. Do more of that. Kind of wanted more in this, to be honest. Like I saw him come in. I go, man, we're already halfway through. Can I get more? Please, please, please. Well, and especially when they get to the point of their training for being a part of the roadie crew. You know what I mean? They're going through this rigorous training. And him getting just pummeled by those tennis balls. Like this is physical comedy. Who else could you? Who else could have gotten it done this way? Nope. And then to have that line of just like, you're worthless. Serious. What are you still doing? I got no way sells to go. Officer, gentlemen. Is that what it's from? OK, I knew it was something that they were partaking in. Richard Erie. OK. I got no place to go. The can't get enough of your love walking in Tia Carrera, dancing. Like the music moments in this movie are pretty underrated. They are, man. I fucking love that song. He's one. He's he is my favorite singer of all time. But this song is fucking fantastic. And I love how they spend so much time on on the sort of dance scenes. And this means a lot because like Wayne's like, what the fuck's going on? And he gives him the shooter. You're like, fuck, I hate this guy. Well, they're basically inside of each other just doing this the entire time. And he's just like, he's like, yep, that's what I'm doing later. Look at this chemistry we're making. Yes. As we fuck, basically. She's she's we're in Aurora. What are you doing in Aurora? It's like the same thing. I will they'll they'll they're all in Aurora. The boyfriend. The band is terrible. It's terrible. The band's terrible. No, she's great. The band's terrible. We got to get rid of them. You don't fuck this guy. He's talking badly about Crucial Taunt. Crucial Taunt. Crucial Taunt. Yes, we got Cassandra as the front man, but that band rips. Yeah. That band is raw and they rip and they're getting better. Maybe we could let Bobby rip a solo in there. He can really wail. He can actually. He looks like the most awkward person with a guitar. I'll be honest. Like that man can definitely dance. But with him and his like devious villainous look that he always has does not match with like a rip and guitar. It's hard to make a villainous person a musician. Yeah. Like they can be an asshole, but like villainous, it's hard to make that person a musician. You know what I mean? That's just like. Yeah. I don't know, man. Dusty Dinkelman. He's not a musician. Simply Dusty. He's just a piece of shit. They have split personalities, I guess. I did always think after watching this movie that if I were to ever go to a gay bar, it would have to be Ali Access and it would have to be at like three o'clock on a Sunday. Because this, the toolbox is bumping. This is, I think I feel like they're out for. They're out for like brunch on a Sunday. Oh, no. Yeah. I mean, because they get found out, they run into the toolbox, but there's something about. Wait, let's run away. Let's run away. There's something about the late 80s, early 90s, like the portrayal of gay bars that I love so much. Like police academy had the blue oyster, which was so similar to this, that there's always the, you don't know what you're getting into until you get inside. I fucking love the scene. And I don't know about police academy, but this movie portrays it as like, you're like, oh no. Like, I don't know. Are they going to like be overly dramatic about this or whatever, but no, it's a great time. Yeah. Dude, they're having fun too. You fucking village people performance. What's the fucking song? YMCA. YMCA. Again, like a great music woman, like this song's a fucking banger, dude. Get it girl. God. Get it girl. You guys ever been to a gay bar? Oh, totally. It's so much fun. It's the best. It's so much fun. There was one, and then when I did get to college, the first gay bar I ever went to was the alley cat in Iowa city, which was in an alley. Yep. Yeah. The only thing I was disappointed with was that you could clearly see in through all these windows and be like, oh, there's a bar. I wanted it to just be a door with a weird sign on it. Yep. And a weird name like toolbox. Yes. I just wanted to be able to open a door to a bunch of army guys doing ninja stuff. That's it. But now you want that same experience with just a gay bar. Yeah. There it is. Oh, if I can go somewhere where I don't have to worry about hitting on women, you know what I mean? Yeah, man. Yeah. Or women approaching you. Yeah. I'm so scared. I'm scared that all these guys are going to hit on them. They're not. Screw chicks, man. Like, let's just go to the gay bar. Not like we got to do anything, but it's just cooler there. We should just go. We can kiss. I mean, it's fine. We could share a drink. We could both. We could get two straws. I mean, it's not. We don't have to go all the way. Yeah. We can just, we can be guys. That's how it starts. We can have sex, but it's not gay. No. This is the second or third time on this show history that AJ said those exact lines. Yeah. Yeah. Just throwing it out there. And he's always looking at you too. When we get to slackers, you'll understand. Please, please, please. And then he says to where I wish we, or I think we should break up. And because of all this bullshit, and it's still like so weird. Yeah. Because it's like you can't do better than this. I mean, maybe. Would you bear more? Maybe. Sean, can we just discuss that possibly, Wayne's World 2 has the best collection of sheer, peak women hotness. Drew Barrymore. How dare you? Go ahead. Drew Barrymore probably looks the best she's ever looked in this little cameo. Is it weirder that I'm more attracted to her with the birgan fjords? No. That's what I'm talking about. I'm like way into it. Tia Carrera, Heather Locklear, Kim Basinger, all peak. It's like this movie, I was blown away kind of by just how much hotness was contained in this movie. It's crazy. Her cameo, Drew Barrymore's cameo in this, is brilliant. And then you have her just being like your random knowledge of my country is just really turns the ions. You made a sacrifice for my country. So now I hope to make love to you in the near future. Awesome. Garth in the background is like. Yeah, man. It is stupid. Staddy's like, correct me if I'm wrong, but in the summer months, you have average 40 inches of rainfall. And in the summer months, 200 inches of rain. You know well if I got you. Like if somebody said that about Iowa or the United States, I'd be like, I don't know. I don't care. I actually don't know. I can't confirm that. You should check the Farmers' Almanac. There's no place or time that I would ever find that interesting either. No. No, I live here. Yeah. It's like, you know what? I did a book report on it in the eighth grade. I went to gym and got diarrhea on the mini-tramp. I shouldn't have said that. Oh, dude. Did you guys recognize Handsome Dan? Or sorry, not Handsome Dan. Did you recognize Mr. Scream? Yes. Mr. Scream. Crazy. A movie we all just watched that never came out. The episode. Yeah, but from Revenge of the Nerds, Ted or whatever. No, it's Stan Gable. Stan Gable is the name. Stan Gable from Revenge of the Nerds is Mr. Scream. It's the lead jock. The lead jock. Oh, OK. Isn't that crazy? Oh, no shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm pretty sure he actually does the scream. Oh, yeah. Oh, he has to. That's one of the greatest screams of all time. No wonder he's got a, he probably back in the 90s when the era was good, he probably made six figures to just be a guy that worked at the station. So that's my question. What else does he do here? Is he just Mr. Scream? I think he's Mr. Scream and he probably like is a producer on a couple other shows or something like that. The night show. Yeah, probably. I'd like to say that he also, he has his own show, but like he's still there for like another hour when Handsome Dan's show takes over. So he just still fills in with a scream. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Thank you, Mr. Scream. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! All right, Mr. Scream. Oh, hey. You get closer all the time. Closer all the time. Just gunfire. Welcome back WPIG, the pig. This, I mean, this is, this lives rent free for me, though, like the idea that the radio person's not listening to you. Uh-huh. Yeah. This just hit me from the first time I saw it, and I still think about it every day. It's so funny. It makes me think about like the couple of times we've been on with like Brian Marshall is up the end. And we go ahead and he does, he's such a great, he does such a great job of asking us like really great questions, you know, like interesting questions rather than just like, all right. So Wayne, so tell me. Wayne's talk. Oh, very exciting. Very exciting stuff, very cool stuff. Tell us what's going on. Yeah, just say it. Here, someone wrote down, ask them about Wayne stock. Yeah, exactly. And then you go ahead and say. And he's just like switching stuff. Uh-huh. Oh. Uh-huh. It's not even fun anymore. I could say anything. I could say anything. You just not be listening, huh? It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Uh-huh. Oh, oh, oh. Okay, close, close. Yeah, he heard one word and he heard shoot, shooting. And he's like, ah, that's a joke I do. It's really exciting stuff. I think people are really going to dig it. And he looks so bad. People are going to get really cranked. I agree. I feel like I'm really cranked. Welcome to Paddy's pizzeria. Your blind date is already at the table, and there she is. Cousin Brenda, what are you doing here? You're married anyway. Substitution brought to you by Paddy Power. Cousin Brenda makes way for Beth, the office crush. Oh, get in. You might not always pick the right starter, but your sub can still deliver. Because with Paddy's Super Sub, your bet rolls over to the player coming on. Paddy Power. Validant selected leagues are market-only. 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Kim Basinger here, or Honey Hornet, he wants Garth to kill her husband. This is fucking hilarious as well. The line that will always stick with all of us, I think, is Frank Garth. I'm gonna be Frank. Okay, can I still be Garth? Can I still be Garth? Fucking genius. I'm gonna be Garth. Where? I'm the one gasping. You need a jacket. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Those lines are just so fast. You're real squiggly. I'm dancing. I do have a theory that Honey Hornet has been doing this for like 10 years. Because when they come to her apartment for the first time, she flips one switch and oh, she's romantic. Romantic music turns on. Fireplace turns on. Lights dim. This is not something that you have as a married woman that's madly in love. How's the Scotch ready to go? This Coke's gone bad. This Coke's gone bad. They're old-fashioned. Okay. So I think that she's been trying to find multiple guys to kill the husband. And every time she gets to a certain point, they all say no. So she has to keep doing this ruse of meeting someone and bringing them in, sexing them. I don't know if Ella Confidential came out before this, but it's like perfect, like, like reiteration of the femme fatale character that she's so good at. Like, I don't know. I won't, I won't, I won't, I won't. The kicking on the ground. He is a dead man. He's a dead man. He's got his hair up like nicely combed now. Should I have some hot cocoa afterwards? Some hot cocoa. Nails his fucking head on the goddamn wall, dude. Hello, darling. Cracks the wall. Did you sleep well? I hope I wasn't too much of an animal last night. An animal. An animal. This movie touches on my worst nightmare. I will have wake up in the middle of night dreams of the doors have opened to a concert and people have arrived and we have not set up yet. And if you see that, there's that scene where he says they haven't sold a single ticket at one point. Yeah. They basically haven't sold a single ticket. And there's these shots of this stage already set up and people arriving. The PA is not flown. There's the lights aren't up. They haven't done, if I came to a festival and the doors had opened and the stage wasn't set up yet, I'm going to just turn around and leave and know that this is not happening. Yeah. It just seems like this isn't a great start. I don't know how this could like really get better for anybody. Nightmare fuel. Like when you're putting on an event and you haven't sold any tickets and nothing set up when people are arriving. When we were doing like the music festivals like for a couple of years, like I had leading up to that every single night, I had the same fever dream is that exact same thing. And it's just like people are like rolling in and something needs, we need this over here. We need that over there. The cop is show up. The stage, this part of the stage isn't, but we'll use that part of the stage. It's like there's no porterpotties. It's just like, I don't, this is the worst. I don't like it. Why do I do this? Why did I do this to myself? The fuck. And so, but the other part of this though too is how does it all happen? You know, I guess it's just, it's just the Wayne's World ending, right? I think that's how you have to think about it. Yeah. It's the Wayne's World ending. In the real world, this was a complete and utter failure. Yeah. Because they say, they say like if you book them, they'll come, but he didn't book them. No bands were actually booked. Yeah. True. I mean, we didn't, at least didn't see that. And like, then he addresses that, I want to address a rumor that like the bands have not been talked to and like they're none of them are going to show up. That's not true. So technically, we haven't booked any of the bands and we haven't. It's like, doesn't he say something like that? I don't know. Well, and keep in mind, if you're going to book a band like Aerosmith, they're going to agree to a fee for this. And then they're going to say mail us $400,000 deposit to take so that we will show up and know that your show is going to happen. Right. Wayne didn't have any of this money. So none of these bands were actually booked. I think the ending of this is a total dream. And I think, I think none of this actually happened. Aerosmith and Pearl Jam. Wow. Pearl Jam. Who else? Yeah. Who else? Well, me and Wayne and Van Halen. Who else? It's like, old man carving a canoe. No. No. Rip Taylor. Rip Taylor. He's a God in my country. Well, he's going to be there. You have to also talk about one of the greatest needle drops of the whole movie is New Order Age of Consent, which by the way is funny because we just heard an incredible cover of Age of Consent from a band called Geographer from Snack Shack. That slowed down version of it. When they go to the theater. Yep. But here's what's weird. I do want to go on record. New Order Joy Division is one of the most underrated bands in the history of music. Their catalog is undeniably some of the best music ever written. This song, Age of Consent, is perfect. But here's what's weird. They tried to use the actual recording in this, but they didn't have enough money to pay royalties. So a session band was organized to make a cover version for the film. So you're hearing a cover of Age of Consent. Obviously no lyrics or anything. It's a little off to the riff. The riff is a little different. It's close enough to where you're like, oh, cool. New Order. And then you can kind of go, oh, wait, that's like a dun dun dun dun dun dun. It's literally that difference. Like there's really no difference. Like Carter Burwell, like he I'm sure he got the musicians to do this. Yes. I think he does the, or not that's T-Bone Burnett, but he's done, he does a lot, a lot of these movies. Like a music supervisor and stuff. So I'm sure he got all those musicians in there. But like if you play this song, man, especially at the end of your movie, you're like in a very touching moment of your movie. I love your movie. And then you switch to Mrs. Robinson. Yeah. And you're like, I'm on a road trip and he goes through the tunnel and it stops. Kids nowadays don't understand that when you listen to the radio, you don't get reception in the tunnel. So yes. So that's why the song stops when he drives through the tunnel. And the radio is like there's an AM and an FM and like the FM you can get like, it's a whole thing. It's a whole, you know what? Don't worry about it. Yeah. Just listen to some new order and you'll call it good, man. Yeah. Just turn on Spotify and Bluetooth to it and don't have to worry about putting in like a tape thing that also plugs into your little CD player so you can play your CDs. You don't need to worry about any of that anymore. If that sounds foreign to you, leave it that way. Just leave it that way, man. But guys, this whole car scene and then we get the payoff with the paint of glass and the watermelons and the chickens and then he gets there. She was going to go through with this. Hold on. You missed the other beautiful moment before we get there. Well, it's the Charles and Esther. Charles and Esther. It's like, is this really the best you could do? I mean, I know it's a small part, but come on. The director said. I once knew a girl on Gordon Street, but that was a long time ago. I like this guy though. This is the best. I know. I like the original guy too, yeah. Say what you will about Charlton Heston because I've developed some thoughts as a youth about negative about Charlton Heston, but my God, the man is an actor. It's one of the best cameos ever. I mean, he's credited in this movie as good actor. Yeah, exactly. And guess what? He is. Because he absolutely made me feel feelings in five seconds of dialogue. Yeah. And it's Al Hansen was bad actor. I like that guy. But I like that guy too. I like him too. I looked him up and was he like in the graduate, I guess a small part or something like that. He's little TV stuff here and there. That's it. No. And you know, maybe it's another testament that he was able to do it so badly in a great way. I mean, that's the kind of a testament to his acting. That was the joke, right? I think it was supposed to be bad. It was actually like very heartfelt. I thought like it was actually very good. And then they're like, well, that's bad. Let's get a real actor in like, and then he does do it better. Because he comes up and it's like, it looks like a guy who got who landed this role and it was going to be like, finally, I got a role in a big major movie. And he like, he comes out from behind the desk and he's leaving a little awkward. He's like, I say, Hey, can you tell me where to get to Gordon Street? Oh, Gordon Street. Gordon, Gordon Street, Gordon Street. I once knew a girl like he's like, like he's reading a poem for the first time in front of a class. That's how it comes across. It's great. I continue with what you were saying about the wedding. So Cassandra is going to go through with this wedding. Not going to go through. Cassandra is married. They are lifting the veil and the music is playing. They've said their vows and he said, I now pronounce you man and wife. And he is lifting the veil. But earlier at Jay Leno, he was like, you give any thought to what I asked you the other day? She's like, give me like a week, a week. And they've organized this wedding. After like maybe a month of knowing each other. That's what's so weird about this whole thing. I just don't get it, you know. And it's like, and what are the odds that there's two very identical weddings happening right across the street from each other? First, Presbyterian and second, Presbyterian. Cassandra! Oh, geez, God, no. The fact that he does it exactly the same both times is absolutely brilliant. But then you're just like, like, you, how? Like why? What? There had to be something weird where he was basically like, I'm going to pull your record deal unless you marry me, which means you can stay in the country, which means you can work, which means you're going to be huge. But we got to get married now. It's like the gullible-ness or gullicath-ness of gullible. Not her, but the character in general of like, because Sharp says, do whatever Bobby says. So it's like, I think more like injecting a little bit more comedy to me. I'm just like, well, I'm going to do whatever he says. Cassandra's got problems. She is married to Bobby right now. And they're going to need to figure that out if she wants to continue. Yeah. And I think they got that far in the graduate too. He was running away with a bride. There's also, does this happen in the graduate where they like bar the door and like run away and get in a bus? So that also happens in a John Sakata music video. I was a big John Sakata fan back in the day along with my mother and they do the same thing. It's like the same. John Sakata sponsors. Yeah. We'll stick a Stratocaster between those doors and you're good to go. That guitar is ruined. There it is. Yeah. I mean, the action on that guitar is just, just, just shocked. Trust rods. Why right? Right out. Yeah. There's also a thought about, uh, they get to the actual concert and Aerosmith shows up. I had a thought that what three months ago, Aerosmith was in Chicago and most of the people that probably saw Aerosmith, um, were probably going to come to this concert. So like, yeah, they're paying money to see Aerosmith for a second time in three months. Yeah. Yeah. But Aerosmith with Pearl Jane. Well, well, now hold on. And Van Halen and. Do we know, do we know that these people are showing up? Cause they got out of the limit. So they make, they make it a point to show more bands showing up. Yeah. Here's, here's one of them is not Eddie Vedder. Correct. No. One of them is Nash Kato, the lead singer of the band, Urge Overkill. Gotta love it. One of my favorite bands of all time. Oh yeah. Fucking I love the song, Pain Glass, Pain. Is that no idea? Okay. So anyway, the general public would be like, who's this? No one knows Urge Overkill. Then one of the greatest bands of all time gets out, Gin Blossoms. Gin Blossoms is the other band, but then we don't see any reference at all to Pearl Jam Van Halen. Aerosmith and Gin Blossoms. You kind of got a show buddy. Which actually means Gin Blossoms is headlining the show. Yes, exactly. So let's just throw this out there. Cause since Aerosmith showed up and they've been dying to like please the crowd somehow, our headliner has to go on first because you're the only ones here right now. Also whatever equipment's on stage, you guys just use it. No sound checks, just go on the stage and make sure everything's great. We think this will work for you. We think people are really going to love this. We really trust our crew that we ran through, you know, roadie training and there's don't mind the machine gun, the 50 cal machine guns on the sides of the stage. If they don't like the show, bring out the machine guns. Just bring out the machine guns. We're good. These babies tend to be too... They already paid. It's fine. It's not a big deal guys. It's not a big deal. The crying Indian post credit scene did, where'd you guys watch this? Prime. And they of course cut away before any of that could happen. Unbelievable. Shut up. Unbelievable. But that's really funny. That's one of my favorite like 70s commercials. Yep. Like PSAs I guess. I love that thing. I mean, it's such a great reference to the idea of like cutting it out is kind of obnoxious because it's borderline like the whole reason the naked Indian was there. Yes, it's the reason. That is the whole reason that the Indian was there, the strange naked Indian. He has these funny little moments he injects and do it like when he's running and he hands him the water and it's like splashes. And then he just kind of goes away again. But the whole idea... This is the payoff for the Indian. The Indian is there. Native American. And he's like, I'm gonna have a tear running down his eye looking at this. And Prime's like, fuck you. Watch another show. Yep. Watch. We gotta get you. The boys are on. Yeah. Watch this. Yeah. The boys are on. Great advice from Jim Morrison though. Being an adult means facing responsibility yet still taking the time to have fun. I'm telling you. That's poetry man. That is more poetry than Jim Morrison ever spit out in his real life. Turns out Robbie Krieger was a much better lyricist than Jim Morrison. So yeah. Well, you boys got anything else you want to say about Wayne's World too? That's it. No. We have dissected the movie scene by scene. It's time to give it our modern day ratings. It's gonna be etched in stone. You can see the ratings of all movies we've done at ConfusedBreakfast.com. Also, please, if you love the show, you've made it this far. You're a big fan of us. Check out patreon.com. Slash Confused Breakfast. Tons of perks voting on upcoming movies. They picked Shawshank Redemption for May. They picked it. Wow. It's actually happening. It's one of those kinds of episodes. You get to join the Little Lebowski tier. Leave your reviews on movies. So you should check that out. patreon.com. I'm going to you man. Modern day rating of this movie. What do you think? Oh, this is hard. Um, mostly because I think that. I think that this is one of the. It's such a great entry into sequel land. You know, like, because sequels tend to get a bad rap, tend to get written off as a cash grab before they really get any credit at all. And it can just kind of sour the whole experience of a sequel. And, you know, to kind of hear about how they really didn't want to do it, but then like they did and they kind of took some different ideas and kind of the way it came about. And again, a little bit more on like Mike Myers of him just really kind of wanting this to be like his, his ride, you know, I'm so glad that all those things actually didn't pan out. So we got this sequel. And like, that's such a weird thing to hope for. It's like, I'm glad all the stuff you wanted didn't happen. So I'm trying not to let that necessarily like taint the score of it, but is it better than Wayne's World? I gave Wayne's World a 7.2 when we did it, which it feels honestly, looking back now feels a little bit low. Maybe I was trying to be edgy and cool. You were a 7.2, Sean was 7.5, I was a 7.8. See, and so that all being said, I don't think that this is better, but I don't know if it's worse. So I think I just watched these movies as one movie guys. And I'm going to go ahead and say a 7.2. Yeah, that's, it's almost like it's just, it was just like season two of Wayne's World. Exactly. And it's just like, it's the same show. It's just the next episode. Absolutely. 7.2 from AJ, Sean, what about you? I'm going to give this a 7.9. I think this is a little better than the original. It's to me, just as iconic and the main factor being, I think it's better written. I think the writers refine the magic that is Wayne's role in this movie. The original, I believe, is as iconic a piece of cinema as Citizen Kane or Pulp Fiction. I really do believe that. It's full of moments and scenes as good as the drug deal scene in Boogie Nights. It's just as iconic, like I think about these jokes daily, like I think about that scene in Boogie Nights. I truly think if you have a physical copy of this, you should treat it as a piece of art, a priceless piece of art. I feel the same about Wayne's World too. And just in the way that I think of my favorite comedies, Pure Escapist Joy. The first Wayne's World is like one of my favorite pieces of art. The second is, in my opinion, a better Capital M movie. The truth is, I may even have the opposite opinion about these movies tomorrow, but that goes to show how perfect this right and left hook of Pure Joy these movies really are. It's like Wayne said in the original. When hearing that all champagne is French and others are just sparkling wine. It's like Star Trek, the next generation. It's in many ways superior, but will never be as recognized as the original. Yeah, 7.9 for me. Sean went up. I was a 7.8. I stand by that for the first one. And the only reason I feel like I cannot confirm this one being better. If you're a Wayne's World two is better than the first one guy, that's fucking awesome. I love that for you. I just think it's too much like the original. It gives us some great moments, but it doesn't give us anything more to be built on than the first one. So I love the idea of them just being viewed as just they're the same thing. Like it's just watch them both back to back. But I'm gonna give this a 7.1 actually. Still a huge score, but it is not as good as the first one for me. Josh Miller says, starting the movie off with Edgar Winter. Honestly, way better start than I remembered. Strong opening immediately had me questioning my past self. Also, maybe I missed this in the first one, but were all those cable public access shows supposed to be live? Because growing up, the only thing live on public access for me was the city council meetings and the occasional guy yelling about zoning laws. Watching Steven Tyler run laps across the stage got me thinking, does Jerry from the pork tornadoes have Steven Tyler energy? Or does Steven Tyler have Jerry energy? That's what it is. Because one of them is definitely borrowing from the other and I'm not sure who owes the royalties. Whether or sorry, where this movie really loses me is the tone. The first one felt like the camera was just following these dudes around during their day. It was dumb, but it felt natural. This one feels like they're trying really hard to be Wayne's world. Everything is just a little too forced, jokes, interactions, setups. And yeah, some of the jokes absurdly land, but when they miss, they miss hard. Like who signed off on this hard? I know this movie has a decent IMDb score and I genuinely don't get it. And maybe this is a stretch, but did this kind of derail Mike Myers for a bit? The first one was a massive hit on a relatively small budget. This one, not so much. Then he basically disappears for a few years until Austin Powers shows up and saves the day. I went down the rabbit hole a bit and apparently I might be in the minority. There are people out there who think this one is better than the original. I don't know how to process that information. For the prop, I'm torn. Do I want the convertible pacer launching off the cliff? Thelma and Luisa or the stretch limo pacer? Because both are aggressively ridiculous in their own special way. Modern date score, if I'm being honest, it's exactly where it was 90 minutes ago. A straight up five, not bad enough to hate, not good enough to love, just kind of there. And somehow that's the most disappointing part. So we've got two outliers. We've got Sean up there at a 7.9. We've got Josh down at a five. That takes us to a 6.8. On the grand scheme of things, we gave the first Wains World a 7.1 as a group. So this is all alone at a 6.8. We think that Heavy Weights is a better movie than this one, but we think this is better than weird science is how that falls on our ratings. Here we go. So we hope you enjoyed the episode. Thanks for being here. We are continuing our month of sequels lethal weapon two followed by the two towers, L-O-T-R-I-D-K. Loader. Also, if you're new to this episode, go back this time last year. We had a three movie run that was wild and it was capped off by Forest Gump. Oh man. One of the better, deeper, funnier episodes we've done. And thanks to Logan on the controls here at UploadMediaGroup and Cedar Rapids. Learn more at uploadmediagroup.com. And check out our network, Cloud10 at cloud10.fm. That is it for your boys. Goodbye. Bye. Party on, Wayne. Party on. Party on, H. Party on, Sean. Party on, Mike. Party on, Mike. Party on, AJ. Party on, Logan. And we're clear. All right, guys. Good show. All right. All right. It's wayday Wayfair. 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