Episode 490 | Movin' On Up

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human. No, warrior's mom. No. Conductible. No, warrior's mom. No, no, warrior's mom. No, warrior's mom. Viennese mentor. That's the cold opening. Welcome back. Middle of the week. How's everyone feeling? So good. We understand there is a little problem with Netflix that like the last three minutes keeps getting cut off. We're working on it and trying to fix it. Apologies for the technical difficulty. But we're trying to be international and I guess that was the price that we paid, but it will be fixed in due time. And we will be international soon. Yes, that as well. We'll have to do a post for that because right now international can't see this. They can hear it. They can hear it. They can hear it. But they can't see it. They can't do a social post. But soon you'll be able to hear and see it. Yes. Internationally. But how's everyone feeling? How's everyone's week going so far? Great, man. How you feeling, man? I'm okay. I'm okay. Coming out off the birthday high? Yeah, you know, just a little look maxim from my birthday. Regular shit. Look maxim. What is that? You're not trending. You don't know. Okay. Those that know know. Just have your look maxim. Okay. That's pretty much it. Congrats. How's your week been? My week is good, man. I've been chilling. Me and DeMaris went to Applebee's. This isn't like a plug or anything, but I missed the neighborhood neighborhood bar. Oh, you went to the bar to just like, what do we ate at Applebee? Okay. But you went to the bar at Applebee's. With inflation, it's still not bad. Like I remember the two for 20s. They still, it's like what, two for 25 now. Okay. The inflation is not that crazy. Like, so I'm not mad. And this isn't a plug. I was just like, there wasn't anything around where we're at. It was it was either Applebee's. How's the surf and turf doing? How's it doing? I didn't, I didn't participate in that. But the spinach dip is still, still incredible. And you can't go wrong with Applebee's mozzarella sticks. Yeah. You can't, but. Love a good Applebee session. You got a good bartender. That as well. You know what I mean? Um, but yeah, it's been been been a week. Yeah. Um, do we want to get, get right into it? I mean, that's what we here to do. That's what we do best. Are we exhausted with lists yet? You know, I have been a lot exhausted with this one. Yeah. Even if we are, I've been exhausted with lists for about four years now. I'm listed out. Um, complex put out there, hip hop media, rank power rankings for 2026. And again, per usual, like we've been saying for the last three years, complex is the greatest platform of all time. And we thank them for including us in, in the power rankings. Thank you, Jordan. We landed at number seven. Shout out to Jordan. Last year we're at nine. I think the year before that we were at 12 or 13. I can't remember something like that. But I mean, we just, we're going up the ranks. Yeah, man. What do you, what do you want from us? Listen, man, thank you to everybody that I don't know if it's a voting. Committee or anybody over there complex, but in particular, thank you. Thank you, Jordan. Yeah, it looks like there's about a one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine people. Oh, okay. So shout out to the whole, the whole nine. Yeah. Um, and again, I mean, it's, it's always great to be on these lists. Obviously it doesn't like really define everything, but definitely feel grateful for, for being acknowledged on the list at number seven. Anytime you acknowledge by, you know, peers and people in the, in the industry, you know, it's a cool thing. So thanks to everybody that acknowledges, thanks to everybody that didn't acknowledge us and thanks to everybody that's upset that we got acknowledged. Yeah. I mean, so part of it, so part of the, the gumbo of entertainment and industry politics, right? Second year in a row that, that people have, have made their press rollout about us not belonging on the list. But I mean, hey man, who are we to fuck up tradition? Listen, man, you know, I get it. That's part of it too, because there are people out there who, you know, echo those sentiments as well. So somebody has to speak for that side as well of, you know, we shouldn't be here or this, that and that. There's people out there that feel that way. So, you know, I'm, I'm learning to understand that there's multiple sides of these things. And if there's people that speak to those sides, then, you know, that's, that's part of it. It's a necessary, we need it. Yes. We all need our dick suckers. Niggas be dick suckers. My bad. I'm sorry. Did I take it too far? I'm sorry. No, it's fine. Sometimes there's just no self-awareness that you don't realize the things that you're saying are so contradictory to who you are. It's just, it's just interesting. But neither here nor there love to literally everyone that's on this list. Everybody man. Love. Congratulations to everyone on it. Again, it doesn't define you as a media person, but it is nice to be acknowledged. Shout out to Torrey. Torrey is on there. Shout out to Torrey. Oh, that's what's up. Shout out to him. I can't find what number it is though. Are you sure he's on the road? You just was like, you know, having one of those moments where you're just looking and you thought you saw somebody and. No, I, oh, no, I specifically looked. If we're going to get our haters shit off. Well, no, Torrey could have been ranked number 36. I know they only did 35, but Torrey could have got that 36 slot. So he's not on there. No, he's not on there. I hate when Rory has an inside joke in his head. I hate that. I hate that when he works on his like material. I know I literally got that was free. I hate when he does that because I'm thinking like, okay, he's on a list and I'm you scrolling like I will wear on the list. Okay, but I see what you did there. I mean, listen, I think a lot of opinion story has are absolutely insane, but I do think with the likes of people like neon and I'm not honestly, I'm really not here to hate just just reacting to the list. People that I don't think focus on hip hop media per se. Yes, you can go on a double date with a rapper on stream. I don't think that really falls into hip hop media and no, you know, nothing against neon. I don't actually really know much about him whatsoever. I know he does a lot of numbers, but I do know that he's not hip hop media. So I thought that was like, I think Torrey could have got that slot. He actually talks about hip hop in a weird way, but he is talking about hip hop in a journalistic way. But other than that, I mean, I think way know could have been on there. There was a few people that I think deserve to be on there that weren't and some people that I just don't think are particularly hip hop per se. But listen, man, shout out to everybody that made the list. Shout out to everybody that was recognized. Shout out to the ones that didn't make the list, but should have been recognized. Keep doing what you don't keep putting work in. And you know, one day that the recognition happens, but most importantly, keep doing what you love, keep doing what you're passionate about. That's what's important here to keep doing what you're passionate about. We all are part of this hip hop culture. And you know, whether we like it or not, we all have something to say about it. So there's that man. Shout out to the desk and Gina. I always want to shout out to women. Shout out to the desk and Gina. Shout out Gina for making it this year. I advocated for you to make it last year. So Lauren's on there too. Lauren. Yes, Lauren is on there. I love that as on her own, not with the breakfast club on her own. I love that. Well, well deserved and Gina as well. And the desk definitely both both belong on there as well. Do you think we could have got that six slot? Listen, this isn't why I don't like hate man. It's not. I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't think about those things man, but I'm here to go back and forth about your thoughts. Just haven't got what did you feel about the number six slide? I think Anthony Fanzano like, you know, back and forth stuff aside, like I appreciate that he does music reviews because that's kind of a lost thing. I feel like in hip hop media now other like nonsense has taken over. But I mean, do his reviews ever define like ironically, does it push the needle? Like, are we all stopping to really see if Anthony likes it? I'm going to go check it out type of thing. And I hope this isn't come across as as hate. I'm really just being unbiased in in that. I'm sure he has an audience that does. Yeah. I mean, he does a lot a lot of numbers. And again, I like that he does real music. You might not be in the audience, but that doesn't mean the audience doesn't exist. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not talking like girl six right now. You seen girl six the movie Spike Lee? No, no, I've never seen it. She was like a phone sex operator. Remember phone sex? You might be too young. So you we have FaceTime now. Right. But no phone sex like when you had to like call and your mother got the bill next month and so that you called some. Yes, some woman. No, Spike Lee had a movie by the girl. So he was just sounding like her. So you think of wasted sexy and worthy of phone. No, I mean, that's that was that's not your normal voice. That's why I looked at you like why are you talking like that? Oh, I'm calm today. I can't be calm. I be yelling. You can be calm. I love it. I love the calm energy and the demeanor, but I just had to recognize it and just turn and look like why you sound like that. You got a break. No, I didn't. I'm I'm totally like flaccid right now. Smirmy wormy, but I would hope it worked. Yeah, like I'm just right up at work. I'm not doing that. I thought I made it jump my bad. No, no, no, no, no, no, I'll go back to my regular voice. I just was trying to, you know, just, you know, understand what was happening. But OK, so good. Yes. Yeah. Congrats to Joe and Jada. Joe, you hated your way on the list. It worked. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Number four, well deserved. Oh, Joe and Jada. Shout out to Fat Joe and Jada. Shout out to Kiss, man. They deserve it. Yeah, definitely put a lot of weight. I didn't really, we just talking. They had a hundred episodes or more than a hundred now. They've been consistent. Yeah, damn. I didn't think that. I saw I heard a hundred. I was like, time is flying. Shit. I was OK. You've been at work and shout out to Kiss and Fat Joe. Our 500 is coming up soon, by the way. Well, we've passed 500. We're past 500 if you count the page rounds. But yeah, officially five, like our regular episodes. Rest awesome. I was. Are you proud of us? I am proud of everyone. Proud of us. Yes, for sure. They only gave us six months. And it's our five year anniversary coming up too, y'all. So I said they only gave us six months. This month is our five year anniversary. They gave us six months. Every year they seem to be mad that Complex recognizes us and is ranking us on the list amongst the conversation of the people of Complex. Listen, man, it's this whole part of it, man. If you haven't noticed, nobody's getting me upset anymore. I love that. I just don't have it. I just, because I really, I don't know these people. I'm never going to go back and forth with arguments. I don't know these people. Like never met them have no issue with these people. I don't know none of these guys, man. But I love everybody that's doing work and is passionate about what they do. You love them. Remember you should get on me when I used to say that I love people. You don't love them people. No, no, I say I love the people. I say I love when people are passionate about what they're doing and love what they do. I like that. Like get upset and be passionate. I don't understand it sometimes. I'm kind of confused because I'm just not, my energy is not there like that. But you know, it's like, oh, sure, I'm sure somebody feels like that too. Like, you know what I mean? That's the beauty of the internet. Yeah. Like I'm okay. You can find someone to agree or disagree with you. Any, any crevice of the internet is right there. Man, I just, you know, shout out to all of the, and shout out to the artists and the people that we talk about. Shout out to the work that they put out. Shout out to, you know, the producers and, you know, things like that, that, that make this all the ecosystem of hip hop. Everybody has a role. Everybody plays a part. Whether you like the part that they're playing and not that subjective. I'm not here to, you know, argue that. But you know, number seven, it is thank you complex. It's very, very mature. Yeah, I like that. I'm proud of the place. Hey man, you know, see that add or cheese sandwiches and the clink and I'm not doing that. Look at the options. Yeah. It's only one way or another with me. Cheese is correct. It's no in between. Yeah. I'm just like, let me just stay over here and drink my Genji tea and, you know, just relax. Yeah. I'm doing. Me and the Mercer. When did, when did Kai like fake retire? I mean, I'm always in support. I wasn't sure if he's streamed it all this year after his, uh, the streamer thon, right? The mafia thon, whatever it's called. Shout out to Bronx legend. Kaisa not. Um, yeah, he just announced, he announced it in January that he was a quitting, uh, streaming, which we know he wasn't going to quit streaming. We just, we all called it a break, let him step away from it. He was passionate about other things, you know, wanted to get into fashion and things like that. And this, you know, Kai is young, man. So it's like, you know, love that streaming and we talked about it for him to do what he did. That takes so much time and effort and consistency of just being, you know, after a while, you just mentally, you need a break. And so I knew Kai Sennat wasn't done streaming. You can't, that's like, you can't be done. That's what you do. This is who you are. You're one of the greatest that would do that. Um, but I think a break was necessary. Let him go try other things and find other things that he was passionate about. Um, I just think it was interesting that he saw his ranking on the complex. Listen to now it's the next day. Like, oh no, I'm coming back. I went from number one. He was number one last year. Number one. It's a number 13 this year. Uh, yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Number 12. Number 12 this year. Yeah. Kai didn't like that. He said, whoa, whoa, whoa, y'all got me fucked up. Like I'm not going from number one to number 12. Let me come back and do a mafia thong seven for your head tops. So he's probably going to stream for six months straight. Something that none of you niggas could ever do. Like Kai not going to shit. He not going to take a shower. He going fast for 60 days. On camera. No sweet. Kai going to do some unbelievable shit when he come back. He like, he like Kai is like the Gandhi of like streaming. Okay. Okay. You're going to land this. Yeah. He going, he going fast. I'm on the plane. He not going to drink water. He not going to eat. He just, you know, for the better cause, you know, it's all going to be for the better cause of Irish IRA hunger strike is what you're going to do. He going to do something like this. He not going to just come back and start talking to the camera. He not coming back like that. You know, he didn't come up with a whole newest team got together and they said, no, this is what we doing on the comeback. Kai going to come back. You know, no, no drinking water, no eating. You know, like a 50 when he did that movie. Yeah. Kai not going to blink for a week straight. He going to do something incredible on the comeback. But he's been playing even waiting for this moment. If you don't blink for a week straight complex, please write to the top. Yeah. I don't even care if I do a hip hop. And you under you niggas cannot blink for a week. Kai not going to blink for a week. You know, show you how you locked in. He just going to be looking right at the chat. Chat. I'm still not blinking. Day six. No blink. We ain't got time to blink. I mean, might miss something. Might miss something as funny as fuck. Do you guys think they should have paired Jim Jones, Mano, Dave East and Fab like together because they have they have Jim Jones at 26. But Jim has done some interviews solo. Yeah. He's had some some some moments and things like that. I feel like the four of them have gotten like some some viral clips here and there that were definitely got some less rapper body made it. No, not that I saw. Okay. So yeah, maybe because Jim has probably made it more of a thing where he's sitting down one on one with guests. Yeah. And things like that. But shout out to Jim too, man. You know, shout out to anybody that made the list, man. Happy for everybody, man. Do your things. Do your things. Everybody. What you think we got to do to be number one? I don't know. Demaris. I couldn't even. I don't know. I'm not going to not blink for a week straight. I'll tell you that. That's not going to happen. So, you know, and still in my flow. I've come back and juice it. What if God juicing? I was the first nigga on the streams. Juicing. That's true. Yeah. You were. They used to say, yeah, that was like your flu game. Whenever you would use. He was just hungry and funny. Yeah. But you know, I'm going to come back. He going to try to, you know, yeah, but so I mean, sometimes that's the problem of being, you know, the first one through the door gets shot. Like the first generation hip hop, they got fucked over so the next generation could profit. You're doing that with the juice. No, even the next generation got fucked over too. It was a couple of generations. You got paid. I can't juice longer than me though. Look at what niggas want to compete with. Yeah. He don't want that problem. He can't go. He can't go. But he's going to dance while he's juicing though. You just be sitting in the chair. No, I'm doing fucking summer salts and car wheels. Yeah. With Lizzo. Yeah. He might start wrestling wrestling somebody on stream while he juicing. He might take it to the. Yeah, I'm not doing that. Yeah. Got to be very calm when you juicing. But shout out to God, man. If he is coming back, shout out to cost or not. He's going to dress up as you next to him on the stream. I could already see it. All right. Let's be messy. Who y'all think is too high? Who y'all think is too low? All right. Let y'all have it. I know. I don't like all that shit. No, I don't know. I don't like. I don't have a huge strong, like strong opinion about the media lists like that, to be honest. Okay. Because I think it's very, it's very similar to rapper lists at this point because I think on this list for the most part has their own community. Of course, things overlap and viral moments happen, but everyone kind of has their own blame for the most part. Like if you're into more of the journalistic shit, you have Rob Markman right there. You want some messy shit? You got some messy people on there. So I don't know if there's anyone that I would like completely move. I mean, Cam is sports, but Cam still, you know, if he's beefing with Dane, we'll get some hip hop stuff there. But I mean, I guess you could, you could make an argument that Cam is maybe 1% hip hop and 99% sports. Okay. But he is still Cam. So everything he does, I feel like he's hip hop. Who let Kev should be higher? I agree. I said that last year too. Kev, Kev, I think should always be then 17. He definitely needs to be higher than some. What was Kev last year? I feel like he was higher than that last year. Kev last year ranking was 21. So at 17 now. Yeah. But I felt Kev should have been higher last year as well. Kev, Kev, he is one of my favorite platforms. It's cool to see guys like Big Bank up there. I like to see that. He had a big moment with Doug. Yeah. I remember when that dropped, he definitely that was the most viral video. Yeah, that was that. Yeah. He was all over the algorithm when that dropped. And outside of that, like of course, because it was thug and was everything going on. He conducted a really, really, really good interview. Like that was some journalistic shit, the way he handled that, that entire thing. So good, good to see Big Bank up there. Fraze love coming off to the Jay-Z interview. Yeah, it's really, it's really kind of just Neon is the one that I'm like, yeah. I don't know. I mean, if you're going to have Shannon Sharp up there, you got to have Cam Newton up there. That's just my, my take on that is, but is it hip hop? Just if you interview someone that happens to rap and not even talk about rap. You got Shannon Sharp up there. You got to have Cam Newton up there. Okay. You got Shannon there. Or we could just not have Shannon there. That's what I'm saying. If you're going to have Shannon there, I think that Cam needs to be somewhere. Cam Newton needs to be somewhere on that list. Why did they say he was there? Then he have a, he had a, he had, did he have Meg this year? Was that last year? That was last year. Last year? Sharp has an ability to get deeply personal interviews out of his subjects. And while he's more of a generalist than most on this list, many of his best conversations involve rappers, whether it's his bat shit Kevin Gates interview or his revealing chat with G Herbo, his team shops of clips and post them all over his IG creating enough conversation. You could learn plenty from the highlights alone. I don't know guys. I'm just saying, you know, and shout out to Shannon, but hip hop. I would have to like just go through the whole list of what he did for the year as far as guess. I do remember the Kevin Gates one. I don't remember the G Herbo one like that. But I don't, again, like I watch Shannon depending on the guest. I'm not super tapped into everything that's on club Shayshae. So I don't want to speak like I know that he shouldn't or should not be on that list. Trapeller Ross, I think is an incredible researcher, puts together really interesting documentaries on YouTube. But is he crime or hip hop? He's crime and hip hop. OK, just because you do an amazing documentary on serial killers that they just happen to rhyme words together. Yeah. Does that make a hip hop? Yeah. It's part of it. He ain't talk about one song in the King Von documentary. Other things to talk about is still hip hop. Still hip hop. He's covering all all corners of hip hop, not just the music. You're touching to the meaning behind the music, the words behind the music. I went to click the NBA Young Boy Baton Rouge video. He did. And I didn't learn one song. I just know that there's a crime wave in Baton Rouge that is absolutely insane. Do you know any King Vile songs? Yeah. I wouldn't know what to type in, but if you played a King Von song, I know this. A strip of bit sheet. Yeah. You know, OK, you know, Ticket to the O. Yeah. OK. That's unfortunate for her. Listen, man, it's a classic song. No, Von had some songs out there. Did they play that as soon as you landed in Chicago? Did they play that in the airport? The O here, Ticket to the O. As soon as you touch down, they playing that shit. Hell yeah. I don't know if that's what Von was. No, he was a different O. He's more of a midway airport guy. He's closer to that. Take it to the O here airport is fucking hilarious. That's actually very funny. But no, I do appreciate would trap. Sometimes I think he goes a little, little extra and a little outside the lines. Like when he was doing the big U shit, wearing the gang shit on his hat and like, I think that's a little much, but he does great research. I just sometimes I think it's an odd thing to be so obsessed about is black people killing black people. Yeah. It's a strange thing to dedicate your life to researching. So weird. Different strokes for different folks. Yeah, always. It always will be. The English man. I don't know what to tell you. But again, shout out to Complex. Shout out to everybody over there. Slute to Jordan. And yeah, man, looking forward to the work we put in this year and next year, climb a little further up that, that ladder and see what else people got to be mad about next year. Um, no, Angela Yee. Really? And I think her show does numbers. She has viral moments. She has good interviews. I think Angela Yee deserves to be on this list. She was on it last year as well. I think pretty high. And I think Angela stayed consistent in my opinion. What about Angie? No Angie Martinez? No Angie either. Which I thought like, I feel like Angie is just so much like on the Mount Rushmore. Like no matter what she should, she could be dead quiet for a year and she still to me deserves to be on a list sway as well. Yeah. Like those are just people that are staples. No matter if they've retired today, they're still hip hop power ranking in my opinion. But I was shocked to Angela. I think she deserves to be on there. Even the stuff that she does with B dot and may know when they come on the show, when Cas goes on the show, like I, I think her show. I've kind of preferred the split with the breakfast club. I think Angela is great by herself. And I think what they did at the breakfast club is great as well. I'm just kind of shocked she's not there. No mellow 7pm in Brooklyn. Now if you have Shannon Sharp, I would say that mellow should be up there. Yeah. Had an amazing call interview. I was gonna say I had an amazing call interview. Yeah. Like what? No mellow? Like they ain't fucking with mellow? Oh, yeah. They're probably going to start to say that it's more of a sports platform. But, but again, I mean, I think Shannon, I think mellow may interview more rappers than Shannon Sharp. No, it ain't me. He definitely talks more hip hop than Cameron. Yeah. Both at Jco interviews. That's probably like the most hip hop, both of their platforms that had. And I think mellow probably does more than that. So I'm, I'm watching 7pm Brooklyn. Definitely. Shout out to Frazier Frazier on there. Number 14. He had a J interview. So yeah, you got to go mellow. Mellow had J Cole. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Mellow got to be up there, man. You got to get mellow. Got to get some love on that list next year. Shout out to mellow and Kaz 7pm Brooklyn. I mean, Meryl's up there and you know, just getting his hot 97 show up and running. But I mean, when him, Kaz and mellow are together on that show, it's a hip hop show. Yeah. It's definitely not a sports one, but you know, congrats to Elliott Wilson on his twins. Yeah. I mean, number 32 Elliott obviously is, you know, was preparing for that and everything. I think Elliott, you know, is going to focus for the remainder of the year. And I think 2027 Elliott's going to get back in the mix. Yeah. He got twins now, man. He got it's different at home now. Having twins with at that age, you got some strong sperm, yo. That's what's up. You would think like when you get older, you want to be able to produce multiples. You wouldn't think that. Shoot an oatmeal. I don't know where he went with it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know him and Elliott's relationship. I don't know. I was replying to what she said. I don't know. No, I've never been to the clinic with Elliott. No, I'm just saying, like, you would think if you get older, like, you know what I'm saying? Like you lose, like, you know, sperm strength, but like your sperm count is low. Yeah. He's shooting twins at like 55. Like, yeah. Elliott's 55. I have no idea how. I'll put 55 on him. Yeah. You can put an Elliott at 55. How old is Elliott? 55. Nailed it. Oh, shit. 55. Elliott, yeah. Twins at 55. Yeah, that's like, that's like hitting the half course shot at the garden during the half time. Yeah. You get twins at 55. Scary. I mean, congrats to him. I would just be, I'd be surprised. Yeah, congrats, but I would be like, excuse me? Like, so when was this doctor? Like two? We're having twins. Yeah. You know, I kind of noticed that unless I grew up with you or went to school with you, I don't like know my male friend's age. That's just like not a conversation you have with your male friends. Yeah. Like, unless I know what grade, like we weren't a grade together. I know we're close. But if I met you after 22 years old, I don't know your age. Yeah. If I met you as an adult, I don't know your age. I definitely probably don't know your age. Like I'm. Unless you announce it like on your birthday. Like I wouldn't and I'm terrible with remembering birthdays. Don't even tell me your birthday. I know everyone in Palouse's birthday is just because I booked the flights. Like I've memorized everyone's birthday. But even then I found out I was like, damn, y'all are old. I feel like we was in high school together. We the same age. I don't know. Cause that's like 14 to 18 gap. Well, I guess it depends when the four years. Yeah. But now if I, if we still, if we hanging out and I'm 35, it's like 17 to 21. That's a different for sure. Cause you're out of high school. That's what I'm saying. If we are in high school together, we're the same age. No, I don't know. Y'all told me, y'all told me that the, the seniors I was dating when I was a freshman are creepy. So no, they're not. 100% are. Adam, just with puberty happening in those years. Yeah. The difference between seniors is creepy, but. Like the freshmen look like children when they walk in that first day compared to a seniors drastically different. I don't know. I was a puberty, but I hear you. Well, women go through puberty before us. We still look like pipsqueaks when we're 14. Yeah. Senior dating the freshmen is just like, well, what's up with you? What are you doing? Listen, she's mature, right? She can't even relate to guys. Yes. But again, congrats to Ellie Wilson on the birth of his twins. No, Adam 22. Oh, debated. Oh, I thought, oh, I, I was so, you could take that. No, leave this. I thought we were clapping. I mean, we've debated this the past four years. I think this, the past few years that he has been on it, I feel like Adam's platform shifted from what he was doing with like the underground SoundCloud. Adam was one of the, you know, first people to interview some of the bigger artists before they got a big break, but his platform shifted to like reality TV gang violence. Like it's. Baddies, but for gang members. Yeah. And I don't know if that's hip hop. I think that's like actually kind of wild if you would consider that hip hop. Okay. So you shifted a little bit. Yeah. I mean, his entire platform, I, I feel is not really music focused like that, which is, I mean, whatever he has a niche for people on this list, whose platforms are not music focused. You just talked about trap low rows. Right. Well, I don't know if the gang members that Adam interviews also rap. And be a young boy raps. Yeah. No, very successful. Yes. Gangbomb rap. But I can make a case that whack 100 should be on here. I get why Adam's not, but but whack, whack controls a whole platform. Like we may not be on clubhouse like that, but clubhouse is still a very, very active platform that yes, maybe it's a lot of paperwork parties and not super music focused, but whack, whack talks music a lot. You may not like his takes, but he, he controls a whole platform. Yeah, for sure. So, you know, I'm not saying maybe top 10 because whack, like being a media personality isn't even really his job. It's something that he does as well. I think top 35 whack should be up there. For sure. I'm mad at that. Definitely. I'm mad at that. Maul, I'd never ask you for anything on my birthday. That's not true. But today I'm going to ask something of you on my birthday. Can you please stop overpaying for great wireless? That's what you want for your birthday. That's what I want. You want me to stop paying. That's how selfless I am. I like that. Unlock your savings with $25 a month on the forever unlimited plan. It's a permanent price with no contracts, no price hikes. You keep the same phone you have or three phones that you have, same number, which you save up to $600. With all the phones you have, add up 600 times, four times, whatever you got. Right. Right now, stop overpaying and switch to a fair price at boostmobile.com. Based on average annual single line payment of AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile, customers compared to 12 months in the Boost Mobile Unlimited Plan as of January 2026. For full offer details, visit boostmobile.com. Pivoting over to the Stefan Diggs trial. I have been busy the last two days, but I did see some clips of her on the stand. Stefan Diggs was charged with felony strangulation and a misdemeanor assault and battery. The accusations are from his former personal chef, says that he slapped and choked her during an argument in December 2025. He denied the allegations and the trial has started. I did see they dug up a video of her dancing after the alleged assault and I've been told she sounds kind of nuts on the stand. Is that the case? Yes. And the trial's over. Okay. And what was the final low? He's been found not guilty. Okay. Got it. Where do we think this, this can, because they said that they were intimate at some point too. Mm-hmm. So is it a result of that? Maybe. I think my mistress trying to get a payday and he ain't taking it. He ain't like so ended up at trial, but I don't know why a lawyer would take this case. That's what confused me. But where's the, I don't know, that's such a short, short-minded goal. Like if you're his chef, why wouldn't she just, your payday would just being a full-time chef that you could do for years and years. Yeah, but if you have his sex with his chef, it gets different. Now you don't want to work. You don't want to keep a professional lines of blur. Then I end up saying, okay, well, you're not cooking for me no more. I'm not paying you anymore. Now you upset. You trying to get more money out of me because I fired you and whatever, whatever happens. And now we end up at trial, you know, like. Don't shit where you eat literally though. Yeah, like, yeah, but that's what especially we, we, we can safely assume that Stefan Diggs has been a little promiscuous in his life. Fair to say. Yeah, fair. Responsibly, whatever. If you have that many hoes, wouldn't you not want to fuck your chef so she could cook for you in the house? But you ain't never had, you ain't never had some food that made you look at her. She's like, oh, wait a minute. After I get this plate, I'm gonna eat your ass. You ain't never had no food like that. I have. More. You would know you had a flashback. I just, you know, I just thought about what you said. That's what I'm thinking about what you said. That's it. You definitely had a plate like that before. Well, I mean, I'm glad that the truth did come out because again, from what I've seen that this seems to be. I'm here to say it. The movement is starting. The men too movement has started. I'm sorry. You and Stephen A Smithers are starting this. No, the men too. The men too. Men too. Men too. Okay. Men too. I'm just saying that I think the days of niggas just settling and, you know, paying out of court, like just to just let the situation go away. I think a lot of dudes is going to start looking at this like, yo, that's shakedown. Shit is over with like, I'm not getting shakedown just because I don't want to go to court and don't want to have to go through all of that shit. I hear you. I just think a lot of those people that settled were guilty. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I think we just run into cases like what happened with Hove where it's like, nope. Right. Nice fucking try. Right. Stefan Diggs obviously would have the money to settle, but if you did not assault a woman, no fucking way. I'm not going to settle with you. It's different with Stefan because he's a high profile athlete. Yeah. You know, Jay-Z is a married successful artist, entrepreneur, businessman, but he's a little, you know, he's a little older. He's a Stefan is still active, young NFL star. Yeah. So I think a lot of the guys around, you know, other athletes are going to start looking at that like, yeah, hell no. Like I'm not getting shakedown for that. It's some shit that I'm like, nah, fuck that. So yeah, man, I'm just saying pay attention to what happens from here on out when it comes to these athletes and these young guys, you know, getting these accusations put on them. Like I just think that a lot of these guys are going to start to approach this thing just a little differently as a result of this. Yeah. And I mean, it's unfortunate too for the people that are innocent but settled because of the PR image of it all. Like a lot of times you'd see a headline, Stefan digs, arrested for assault, and then that's what 90% of the people are only going to see. They'll never see the acquitted. They'll never see. So forever brands teams would just have in their head like, wait, isn't that the guy that didn't hit a girl or something? Exactly. I do understand that part of like this is bullshit that I have to settle and this is extortion, but in the long run, it could suck even more if I have this on my jacket, even if I beat the case. So I get both sides of that, but I do like what he did, what Hove did. If you didn't do this type of nasty shit, hell no. Yeah. Let's go to court. There's not an NDA in the world that could make me feel okay about that. Let's go to court. If you think, oh, a word, you saying I did that to you? Okay, well, let's get your lawyers, get your team. And we can present it to the court and then have our day and we'll see what the court says. That's when you know you ain't got nothing to that shit on you. When you know you walk with a certain morality and with certain moral compass and you're just like, that's not who I am. I'm not doing that. Yeah. If I hate when shit like this happens because it's like you give people who actually have a case just more, you make us look crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like just. Yeah, that's the, that's not part of it. I hate that shit. Like you make us look fucking crazy. Which obviously one woman doesn't speak for all women, which I've said that a million times, but it's like now you're just another reason for someone to doubt real victims and actually it's corny. No, I hear you. I mean, like even, you know, back to the, the justice much, it's like, you know, you really fucking over people that are actually victims of hate crimes. Right. But and maybe I'm being naive and romanticizing logic of human beings, but I feel like what Hove did didn't. I don't think that stops a real victim from wanting to go to court with their abuser like that. Hold us away. You said, hold, wait. Like when Hove, I mean, obviously they put all the information that made no fucking sense. He wasn't even the same place as the girl like she, nothing matched whatsoever. I don't think any real victim saw Hove win that case based off clear and sheer fucking evidence that this was a shakedown and went, no, I'm not going to. I now don't want to take my abuser to court, but I could be wrong. Oh, no, I don't know. But yeah, I hear you. And even this case, again, from my understanding, people are saying she sounded insane up there. Like it was clearly what the lawyer had proof of her getting paid. And we know she said she didn't get paid. There was video of her dancing and things like that after she said he was assaulted. Now, to be fair, you know, even that could be a little, you know, misleading because I know people don't know what's going on. I know people that have been in abusive relationships and you would never know. Yeah, very soon. They seem very happy. You go over to the house, you know, the couple seems like they in love this and the third. And then, you know, you leave everybody leaves the game night. Something happens. He ends up putting hands on her for whatever reason. It's just like you would never know that people are going through that is what I'm saying. So, you know, to me, the video of her dancing after doesn't really mean anything to me. I didn't really care about that because I've said, like I said, I've known people that were in abusive relationships, but you would never be able to tell. But the fact that, you know, they have proof of her getting paid and she says she wasn't paid. I think to me that was kind of what shorty was like, what's your name? I said, oh, you got to get your lie game up. You can't you can't let him catch you off guard with it. Like, yeah. I mean, you don't think Johnny Depp started the the men to movement. It was different for Johnny Depp, though, because he's not for culture. Okay. So it's different now on a bigger scale in the Hollywood. I'm sure he shook up a lot of things and people were like, oh, shit, like Johnny came out of that. Like, damn, he was going through something crazy. But in our culture, you know, we we so used to guys going through shit like this and then they pay for it to just go away, not go to court. They settle out and then they're rewarded with, you know, awards and, you know, things like that. And you know what I mean? Yeah. Looked at as a culture as somebody that's so significant and so powerful and so important. And it's like this nigga got nasty shit on his jacket, though. You know, Johnny Depp, the whole trial did not look at her. Yeah, that's that's the energy. That's the energy you're going to like you can't even look me in my face. I won't even look at your. I forgot who asked him, like, is it true that you said you would never look at her again and the whole time he just going like this on the stamp? Yeah, I'm never looking at her again. Like, she's she's dead to me. Like, I will never look at that woman again. That's the type of energy you have when a woman is trying to do something like that to you. And you know that none of it is true. That's the type of energy you walk with though. Like you can't even look me in my face. And I would never give you the the respect of looking you in your face. Yeah, I respect that from Johnny Depp. I still have to watch that full documentary. That's on Netflix, right? Yeah, Johnny Depp one. Yeah, I have to watch that. That's that's kind of messy, though, because there are some a lot of people that believe he got away with some of that stuff on technicalities. There was some stuff that really wasn't fully covered. And there was a defamation. People always feel like that about cases. Oh, no, there's technicalities. Just then a third is like, OK, but you say that when it's like the person got off. Yeah, but then that the person is found guilty and they say, and they say, oh, well, they didn't really prove what I did. It's just that women do go through shit like this. So some men fall victim to that, too. Yeah, it's like it wasn't proven that I ever did this to her. I did that. So, you know, it's two sides of it. I'm just saying with things like what Stefan went through, you know, just some of the lies that she was caught in, I think is what hurt her case and her lawyers defense. Yeah, yeah, I hear that. God bless all parties involved. Yeah, you know how we do. Prey is all involved, even though we ain't praying. Yeah. And what's black people pray? Why is it that black people prayers always I'm praying for you? That's the part of the prayer. But I hope God was listening when they said that because that's the only that's as far as the prayer. I love that's a black people. I think that's just a Christian thing in general. He ain't praying for you. Praying for you. No, you're not. Ma, I want to let me pray for somebody. I pray every night. Last time you prayed for somebody last night. Who you pray for? My friends, my family. So you don't do like specifics like you don't say them. I hope I'm Mary beat this cancer. If it's the situation like that, yeah. I'll just be doing shout outs and it said before. Shout out to my mom and my sister. God, shout out to my nephew. Good day. Thank you. You pray for us. Yeah. I just said friends and family. We friends. I spent more time with Rory in the last 10 years than I've spent with my entire family. That checks out. You think that me and Rory are not like you think I don't like Rory? You would like somebody and I be your friend. You can like somebody and not be your friend. You cannot be around somebody the last 12 years the way me and Rory have been around each other and not be your friend. On a roadway every goddamn day. I see him more than I see my family, my blood. Are you kidding me? Not saying I'm happy about it. I'm not saying that either. I love Rory. I knew what you were going with. I'm not saying I'm happy that I spent more time with him than anybody else in my life. But it's just like, you know, that's what it is. So absolutely. That's my guy. That's my brother. We're friends. We're all friends. Peach hold my hand. Peach is sick. Now you're sick. That's how I go bird. That's how I go bird. That's how I go bird. Got this NBA shutdown. It was that right there. That move right there. The entire NBA shutdown because Rudy Goldberg did exactly what you and P's just did. Entire NBA. Yeah. Entire NBA was shut down and the bubble. He Rudy Goldberg created the bubble season. That was Rudy Goldberg. Or end up being a chef in step on situation right there. So on camera. That's why you can't hide no, you know, cute chefs, man. He know when he hired that girl and he saw that ass. Come on now. You ain't give a fuck about that girl's steak. You face nice little body. Fuck that steak. Come upstairs. Put that shit in the crock pot and low eight hours. Come over here and this motherfucking man cave and you tear that ass up. I saw my niggas play. That's my chef. I'd be like, yeah, all right, chef, huh? She was the most qualified chef. That's your chef. I know chefs. Chefs don't look like that. Don't do that. You could be a five. I've seen. Listen, it's a difference between a chef and a woman that can cook. All right. We're not doing that. I know chefs. Well, Dre is in culinary. Gordon Ramsay ain't got ass like that. Dre is in culinary school. Who? Dreya. Lord, listen. Dreya's in cooking. Dreya about to become a chef. Yeah, she's in culinary school. Shout out to, well, first of all, that's fire. Shout out to Dre for doing that. Wait. All right, but I got to ask with. Oh, and Victoria Monay just graduated from culinary school. But Victoria, she's engaged, married? No. Divorced. They were never married. Oh, okay. Well, I thought they were engaged. Her baby daddy broke up. Okay. So Victoria Monay single. But as far as we know. As far as we know, yes. Just a Grammy award winner. She is now a college. She graduated from culinary school. So she's on her way to being a chef. But if you're a culinary chef, you can sing, can dance, can cook. But here's my thing with Victoria Monay and Dreya. If you only have that many hours of being a chef, I think it's great if you can graduate from culinary school. I'm sure you're a great chef, but you got to put the hours in as well. Coming out of culinary school, your rate can't be that crazy, but you're also Dreya and Victoria Monay. So are they fresh out of school? Chef rate? Or is it a Victoria Monay rate? Listen, man, you as a chef, is it at Dreha being a chef is like Shaq being able to shoot 90 from the free. She bought the average 60 like you. Dreha being a chef. Man, that's like making Jordan six 10. But we never lose. But people would book Dre to cook craft macaroni and cheese for fucking five K an hour. But just because you go to culinary school doesn't automatically mean that you want to get into being a chef. Same as if you go to nursing school, it doesn't automatically mean you want to become a ICU nurse. Sometimes you could go into like staffing. Sometimes you can go into consulting. Yeah, like there's different avenues you can go into. I don't see Victoria Mone nor fucking Dreha being someone's personal chef. No, I I can see Dreha doing like cooking content that's taken seriously because she graduated from culinary school. Now, Victoria can really fuck him up, though. She become a personal chef for Beyonce for the carters. Hun, Hun, Beyonce in the kitchen just talking shit and just she cooking. They cooking in the kitchen in the studio. That album going to be crazy. What? That album going to be crazy. And then Dre, you get Dre in the kitchen with, you know, Wimby. Oh, my God. We're going to win. Leave that young soul. Wimby going with untainted soul. Wimby going with 12 rings. If Dre is a chef. Dre is in a happy relationship. I'm not saying she's not. I'm just saying it's going to motivate Wimby on a different level, knowing that he has Dre as his chef. Well, Stefan Diggs has an opening. Yeah, I don't know if. But she's putting Dre and Stefan Diggs together is crazy. So sick, though, I could see it happening. Stefan, the illus niggas. Dre is so sick, too. I can see it happening. Stefan is the illus niggas. I could definitely see Stefan doing that. You all just heard you just got your culinary degree and all that. Stove is mad cold over here. What are you doing? You know, that's how Stefan was going to shoot it. Just so happens to have an opening. Yeah, he stepped on. You can't link up. That's like Nas and Jay looking at linking up. Like you can't when it comes to holes, you can't. They can't link up. It's going to be way too much fun. Ain't shit going to get cooked or done. That'll get caught. That'll get caught in number one. If he does the marathon stream with them two with Dre and Stefan. They what? Yeah, he right back to number one. You get caught right back to the top of the list. Now, a single rap talked about still number one. It's funny because I thought about going. Oh, I told I think I told her I thought about going to culinary school. It's just that that schedule is so like it's crazy. That I mean, if we ever get to retire, if that day ever exists, if it ever if you I mean, I think I saw my solo dotted line period. But if I do ever get to retire, that is one of my goals in retirement. Yeah, it's to do something. I want to do that. I want to I want to I want to go to culinary school and I want to get my pilot license. OK. I want to do that. I want to fly planes, not commercial, maybe not commercial, but why? I just want to have my pilot's license. Yeah, it's one of my pilot's license. Those guys are like retired Navy pilot. Not all my whole way. My whole way I went to high school and he's a pilot for I forgot the airline. That nigga definitely didn't go to the Navy. Yo, definitely different type of Navy. Yeah, no, I didn't do that. I could see you in a little Cessna. Yeah, cruising over the Bronx. That's fine, right? Take my girl up there going on a date to Jamaica and I'm flying. Come on, you know, stream. Let me stream that. So the first day you're going to Jamaica, I'm flying, though. She don't even know she think we're going to JetBlue not happening. You know, I'm motherfucking mad. I would be if a nigga said he was taking me to Jamaica and we go and get on this little ass plane and he driving or flying. That wouldn't be that. Yeah, that's cool. You suck in him the whole way to Jamaica. Nigga do that. No, nigga, get us there safely. I don't like nobody doing he's a pilot. He's like, I'm not trusting. I'm a great lover. If I don't know if I didn't know peace. You don't know. You don't took your ass to Turks, Kurosawa. OK, you ain't no none of them niggas that got you there. That's true. So now we're on a date. You don't know I got my power slice. I'm saying, yo, what's up, we going to Jamaica. You height. I go, we go to Teterboro instead of fucking JFK. You like, what are we doing? You see me low in the plane. You like, wait, you got a pilot. Yeah, I'm a pilot. I would be terrified. I'm not going to lie. I would be terrified. Coachy, wex, cut it out. Show me your group chat as soon as you find out. Show me show me you texting the group chat as soon as you find out. All your girls. Is going to be y'all pray for me this nigga saying he flying. I've seen you see he's a pilot. Like he. Yeah, but we had three mimosas before we got out here. I didn't know you was the one flying. Oh, no, that's different. No, that's different. Like you're drinking and you see he about to like that. That's I mean, that's I'm talking about y'all. It got he getting the car going to the airport. You think you're going to JFK. He take you to a private airport and you get on this little ass plane and put your put your put your put your luggage in there. And you like, oh, you're the pilot. Like, yeah, I'm a pilot. If we just start dating, sure. If it's a nigga that I've been dating for like six months, eight months and I know him well. Now I know you were sneaking out, getting pilot hours. And I'm not. He's that's that's gangsta. No, no, for like a just getting to know someone. Yeah, that would be that's like that's a nice surprise. Mall's really good at guessing weights, too. So you know, you'd be safe. I know what side of the plane you got to sit on. Yeah. I'm like, you probably just grab your luggage and know exactly what that is. You want 37 sit over there. Put your put your carry on over here. Put your luggage on this side. Gangsta, you not not going. You not going to Jamaica? No, I'm going, but I'm gonna be there. You only going, you going. You ain't never met a nigga that could fly a plane. You to me, I'm going, I know you going. I'm going for a girl, if a girl play here, we going ahead. She was like, all right, come on. Like we gonna go to and I'm thinking the whole time. Like, oh, sure. She booked the trip. Like, all right. We get to the airport and she's the pilot. I would think she was a DEI hire, but definitely DEI. But you know, we still support that. I'm definitely going to church. If shorty's flying. What you think I'm gonna be like, no, I don't trust you. Yeah. I don't trust you. I would have to see the license. You don't like women driving you. You don't trust women drivers. Yeah, but pilot is different though. Uber, don't drive me, but you can fly me though. Yeah. It's a different attention to detail. Like once I see her put the headphones on and she start talking to the control tower, she know what she doing. She know she read the, she read the tail number. C7981 on our way to church. So that I'm like, oh, this bitch is gangsta. Once she start running, I'm like, oh, she know what she doing. We going. Nigga, what? Stream, that's a stream. If there is any pilot. She was a pilot. If there's any pilots listening to this, slide in our DMs. Once she starts saying, cactus 1A, I'm like, oh, all right, cool, we all right. Come on, man. Look at what it take for you. Yeah, like I'm getting right on that flight. Like it is what it is. And if we go down to fuck it, that's the way I went out. It's romantic. The more men in chicks, she was a pilot. Yo, they was going to church, bad weather. Look how I go out. Not happy. You're like, fuck it, man. Fuck it. He met show, yo, she showed he was a pilot. My niggas ain't never dated no pilot. She, I mean, none of my homies ever dated a pilot. Yeah, I'm going out like that. She was a pilot, but did not check weather very well. Yeah, it's okay. It's a D.I. It's a D.I. It is what it is. No worries. What is shorty could like drive a boat? What do you mean? Driving a boat is D.I. Like how Meg drive the boat? No, no, no, no. Like she's getting the sales up. Oh, sales? That means she had a fall in her life. That is true, yes. Yeah, those are all green flags. Those ain't red flags. She know how to raise the sale on the ship. This is an asset. We need to keep her around. If my homie got a girl and she know how to sell and they break up, I'm at her my homie. She ain't do nothing, bro. It was you. She's a sailor. How you lose that? Like a chick that know how to sail? She can sail a boat? She knows like longitude, latitude. She's like nigga, how you lose that? She got like the microscope on the map. She can actually sail the seven seas. And you let her go? What the fuck? We could weather any storm. Like how did you lose a woman that knows how to sail the ship? Yeah, you're the problem. Get the fuck. It's you, bro. It's you. It's definitely you're the problem. We gotta just be real with each other. The marriage, if you can bring a guy here, he's like, oh, he's a pilot. You know what I'm like, okay. And y'all flying private around the world. He got his own little Cessna. And you come in here and y'all broke up. I'm, it's you. It's me. It's you. 100%. It's you. I don't, don't tell me what he did. What if he beats me? What you gonna cry in the Mazda or the Cessna? Boom. What you gonna cry in the Benz or the plane? Benz two moving. Full effect. Like you gonna cry in the Benz or the plane. Which one? I'm just saying you gotta pick your battles, man. The niggas are pilot. He's a pilot. He's a pilot. Like what we talking about? I never knew more how to pilot kink. Like this is like what pilot is out of real time. I'm just saying like we just, you know how to meet pilot. When have you ever met a pilot? No, anytime I get on Delta, I look right at the pilot and go, you know what? He can hit a woman. I'm fine with that. Yeah, come on. I understand. This nigga had to do LA three times, LA and back three times today. He go home, no food. I can understand how things got a little crazy. Two turnarounds in one day. Yeah, like that man ain't supposed to go home to no cold stove. I don't know if he's gonna clear this up. He just drove 1,600 niggas to LA today. He flew 1,600 people to LA today. He come home, he ain't got a meal. Ma is playing everybody. He's joking. All right. He's joking. Ma is 100% joking. No, worry at all. Ma, today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor Hard Rock Bet, which you know is Florida's sportsbook. Everyone knows that. It's second round NBA playoffs. The Knicks are here to show up. Redemption time. The lights are brighter. 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Must be 21 plus and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, or Virginia to play terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida, you call 1-833-PLAYWISE in Indiana. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, one's help call 1-800-9 with it. Gambling problem, call 1-800-Gambler, Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee and Virginia. Speaking of retirement plans, outside of being a chef, I wanted to get into NASCAR. Like, no one had to work cars and shit like that. You want to work like in the pit? I want to work in the pit. I think that shit is so cool. I was watching this girl do it. I know if you move fast enough to work in the pit, though. You see how fast some people have to move? I know, but they work out and they work at it. That nigga be 36th on the pole with the mask. She's like, where is the bolts? Yo, all right, move, man. Move, move, dawg. Move, move, move, move. Niggas gonna be like, move, move, move, move. Seeing the marriage try to crank that shit up. Yeah, like, just gonna be like, move, move, move, move, move. First of all, they have like, this nigga that slipped back 30 places, 30 positions, fucking with the niggas. But I saw this woman doing like the, she was in the pit and she had like the knee pads. I was like, she like slid to the car. It looked so cool. The marriage, I want to set up a camera and put a fake pit right here and just see how fast. We just gonna put bolts over here, screws over, just see how fast you can put it. I was just about to say, I'll sacrifice my own car for that content. Yeah, like, I want to see how fast you think you can move. Just change your flat. Matter of fact, that's what we're gonna do. Take one tire off the car, we'll have it jacked up and everything already. You just gotta put the tire on, one tire. Okay. I want to see how fast the marriage can do that. Now, granted. One note, does she have the drill shit, the NASCAR? That's what I'm saying, they got a drill. Or the bullshit shit that I have in my car when I get a flat. Because if you got the little drill, you all right. Just pulling the shit. I know drill, you got the regular, but I'm just saying we'll take that into account. But I still want to see how much time it was. Cause it shouldn't take more than, let's say for the marriage two minutes to do that. But I can see, even with the gas, she'd be like, if $5 a gallon, like no, we trying to win the race. No, we trying to win the race. I don't know, I always thought that was so cool. Like I want to get into like Grand Prix and like all of that, like racing shit. Like I said, I wanted to go to the Kentucky Derby, like just, yeah. I had a friend make a joke and he was like, you got a game of the problem. I can see yo ass going to bed on dogs. Like you down bad. You mean at the Greyhound track? Yo, bedding on dogs. You have a problem. You have a problem. You have a problem. You have a problem. Bedding on dogs? I don't feel like what's up man. And at those tracks, like you don't even, like at least the horses, you like you get some background on. The dogs, you just be like, yo, three. Yeah, like you bedding on dogs. And I'm gonna just be at the track all day long. I'm like, fam, you've been here for 13 hours just bedding on dogs. Oh shit. Yeah, I'm glad that was never like a vice-amand gambling. Nah, I couldn't do it. I'm too emotional. Yeah man, I knew I didn't like gambling. I gambled one time at the casino and when that lady got up and my money had to stay at the table, I didn't like that feeling at all. No, I think it's when they- I said, so my money just gone, that's it? Like, yeah, go back to your room. Now who got the shit? You casually take your chips? Like it's- They don't even look you in your eye. It's a, yo, at all. Like you put the money down and you roll some shit in the number on here and they just get that little cane and pull your money and you like, the nigga don't even look at you. He be like, his eye on the dice the whole time. This nigga's wrong, he lost. Fid, you gotta look at me and take my money out of my hand. And then you start getting in now, like, nah, maybe I didn't see the blackjack the right way. And they pulling the cards like, no, no, let me add that up. Sir, you lost. Yeah, you try to add like- Sir, you can't read the cards, man. You're like, no, no, wait, wait, how much was that? Fam, you lost, bro. Just go ahead and walk away, take your money and put it back in your pocket, man. Yeah, I found out yesterday that Damaris had a gambling problem. I've known her for so long, never knew that side of her. I've been to Vegas with her and I didn't even know that. Yeah, that's better. You got a gambler problem? That's why I don't, like, get involved. Because once I do it, I don't know how to stop. You know how some people, once they start drinking, they don't know how to stop, they gotta get drunk. What you mean, gambling on, no? I used to have a real bad blackjack problem. Like, back when I lived in Syracuse, I would be at the casinos all the time. Like, even during COVID, when they was only letting, like a couple of people through the door, like I was in line. You on a list? Yeah, it was- Being in line to get the casino was crazy. It was bad. They had you on a list? And I just bet- I'm money good. Like, daily, like, throughout everything, like, if you talk to the people I talk to daily, anything that's just like a question or a challenge, I bet on it, like, what you want to put on it? Like, and they just be like, Damaris, I just, like, I just want to see if it's gonna rain today. Like, you don't have to put money on that. Like, it's bad. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna lose. Cause one of my, somebody I know is involved in the stock market and he was like, I would teach you, but I can't trust you to do this. Cause you'll lose everything. But like day trading? Yeah. That's just a fancy way of saying gambling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I can't. That's just premium gambling at the end. It's acceptable, like, oh, you don't have a problem, you day trade. Like, no, no, no, you're an addict. Yeah. That is a cool way of saying like, I'm a gambling addict. Like, you just gambling, bro. You gambling on stocks. Yeah. It's like if an alcoholic says, oh, sometimes they're just overindulged. No, no, no, you're an alcoholic. You're an alcoholic. But there's so much that goes like into it. Like, I remember I would be on the phone with him and he'd be like, damn, Trump need to say something today. Cause if Trump say something, that's gonna make this stock go up or Elon needs to tweet something because it's not going. It's crazy. Yeah. That's so nuts that it's like, that's where it's at now. Somebody could tweet something. It's like, all right, this stock just dropped. Yeah. Like if forever poor, let me just text Elon. Yo, you could tweet today? Yeah, yeah, say something. Yeah, say. Say you're not fucking with this today. Yeah. But shit, when we were in Vegas, I went down, I forget it was, I think it was Sunday morning to go get some food in the lobby. I seen reason playing roulette by himself. I said, you gambling by yourself? He been down here all night, all night. And I understand to a lot of people that's very normal. As someone that doesn't gamble often, seeing someone that's your friend gambling by themselves, like you could have texted us, we could have like had a friendship. That's when you know your friend got a problem. You catch him at the table by itself. Let's get some pancakes. Yeah. And let's go talk. Roulette in the morning is fucking crazy to me. Hey man. But how much did you lose the first song? I don't lose a lot. I think I lost like maybe like 500. Okay. Once I lost 500, that was it. I was like, yeah, this is not for me. That just, it just don't feel right. Yeah. Like just walking away from your money like that, that fast too. But that shit happened quick. I was like, yeah, no, I'm cool. No, I left Vegas breaking even. And that's when I pulled out. Like even like in life? No, I lost money. And then the last day I got back to zero and I was on a, I was like, nope. I'm back at zero, I'm fine with that. Okay. So that trip though, you still, Vegas still has your money though, over the years. I've only been to Vegas twice in my life. But did you gamble the first time? Maybe like a little bit. I'm not, I enjoy like Blackjack's fun when like you're with your friends, but I'd probably like to fucking 25 dollar tables. It's not fun when you with your friend. I like being there by myself. I don't know nobody. It's two other people, strangers. I like when they're a couple and they're like so involved with each other that they not really paying attention. But then they be fucking around and busting like fucking the table up some time. I don't know. I just, you have to figure you're probably going to lose your money and I'd like to have fun while doing it. Like I don't want to sit there quietly by myself when I'm going to lose money and not even have fun. Like with your friends at least, shoot the shit. Like yeah, it can be fun in that room. No, you're not paying attention. I don't like that. No, you can still pay attention to that. No, Damaris is, you told him to gamble it up. She's, she got a problem. Like I want to be my myself when I'm going through my problems. Like yeah. Like I don't, like I need my friends there. It needs to be the free drinks. So I'm kind of making up for losing money. Then I'm fine playing blackjack. Blackjack's fun in that regard. But for me. But that's why I be getting into sports betting which I would like, I don't be doing what the fuck is going on. But I'm just like, yo, so and so going all the way, so and so going all the way. Peach told me that the center temperate rules are doing good. So. So sports betting to me is, you have a fighting chance. I just feel like the casinos, you're fucked. Like no matter. You're going there to lose your money. At least if you have some knowledge of sports, you have a fighting chance with sports betting. That blackjack shit, they cut in the deck. You fucked. Unless you're a rain man, it can fucking count cards like Kevin Spacey. I don't know what to tell you. My homeboy just put 50,000 on the spurs to win it all. Why you ain't never introduced me to that homeboy? I don't know why. I should just introduce you to somebody that just bet 50,000 on spurs. Sounds like he has some, you know. You want me to introduce you to fine bitches and my equivalent to fine bitches is 50,000 on the spurs. Disposable income where you can just play. You know what, 50 on the spurs. Yeah. I think it's a bad bet though. No, I think, I mean, especially coming off the spurs loss. Yeah, definitely went up that way. Yeah, I think it's a good bet. And it's not a, now listen, it's 50,000. So if the spurs, you know, lose and it's like fuck. But the spurs are one of the favorites to win it all. So it's kind of like, you know, you take it, that's what gambling is. You take that chance. But he just sent that ticket to me. I was like, I like it. Good bet. Good bet. 50,000 to get 290, something like that. Keep me in the hundreds. Losing 50K, I don't care how much money I have. That would, oh my God. I'd be in console, like I wouldn't even know what to do. Yeah, man. But then if you hit, right? Yeah. And then I'm going to get on that high and then put a hundred. Let it roll again. Shit. And then be down fucking 75. What the Yankees doing? Let me see where they at. What the Yankees doing? I take this hundred fucking God complex. Yeah. What the Yankees doing? That's how it happens. No, thank you. But I mean, insider trading, anyone out there quietly wants to hit me. I'm here for it. Insider trading? I could be bought. The show. If you got a lick, I'm here to put up 50K. That's funny. But do we have voicemails? You've got mail. Yo, what's up, Pah? This is Dee from Jersey. Quick question. Having my first kid later this year and looking through the paperwork to give you certain options during the birth, like playing music. So I wanted to know, Rory, one, if you played any music during your daughter's birth or Maula de Meris, when you have kids, should you have kids? What's on the playlist during labor? Trying to figure out if I can get a little Fuego bass and some Wu Tang in the delivery room but my wife's having none of that shit. That's it. Love the pie. Keep going, guys. Appreciate it. Thank you for that. Wu Tang in the delivery room was great. You could play some ODB, baby. I like it raw, because that's why we're here. Oh, obviously. Also, congrats. Yes, congratulations. And definitely hope you guys have a very safe and successful birth. I've talked about this before, though. We had Frank playing and Kea really loves Rufus to soul. So it was Frank and Rufus. Frank Ocean? Yeah. Okay. Those were the two during labor. Yeah, I think that's nice to kind of set that vibe for your mom, for the mother to be, and kind of make her comfortable as much as she can be. I just think you're kind of trolling her if you start playing Wu Tang, bring the pain. Maybe she doesn't have an epidural, and she's doing a natural birth. A house of pain jump around? Playing jump around while your girl trying to give birth is crazy. But shake that ass, bitch. Hands on your knees. Hands on your knees. Breathe, breathe. Hands on your knees. I would probably do... I would do... Well, I'm a woman, so I'm looking at it differently. I would do music that comforts me. So probably a lot of... I'm a weirdo, Disney soundtracks. Like the black Cinderella soundtrack will bring in Whitney Mulan soundtrack, Anastasia soundtrack. Solange is the seat at the table. Like music that relieves anxiety. Don't play no hyperactive shit when I'm over here trying to push a bowling ball through my kuchi. Yeah, no, I mean, granted, as much... I like Rufus and I love Frank Ocean as well, but those picks were specific for Kia to have a calm environment of music that she likes. So, Bryce, it's not your choice. Yeah, you'll do the breathing exercises, hold her hand, maybe even catch the baby, but you're not doing anything. So maybe look at her playlist before you want to get RZA out the gate. I don't know, I feel like I wouldn't even want music though. You just want to... I want them people that like music over... Music is not background for me. Music will always be like forefront. So if I'm hearing music, I'm focused on the music, I might just be like, I want silence. Cause one of my sisters was like that when she was in labor, she was like, I see that your hair, I acknowledge that your hair do not make any sounds. I need complete silence. When she was pushing, and I'm like, I feel like I might be that way. Like I need silence. Yeah, I'm different though, cause even when I take a shit, I play music. So it gotta be like the same, like you're pushing. Yeah, I don't know if I've, I don't know the last time I've taken a silent shit. Yeah, you can't take a silent shit. I'm watching something, listening to something. Taking a silent shit is psychotic. I think silence is... No, it was funny that one time you shit in the office and you were playing Jadakiss though. I just think shitting to Jadakiss was funny. I mean, it don't matter what I'm playing. Like I just, you know what I'm saying? I need to hear music, something like... No. Going in the bathroom in silence and taking a shit is crazy. Y'all know I'm on the phone, I'm on FaceTime 24 seven. That is the only time I will hang up the phone. I'll be like, I gotta call y'all back. I'll do anything else on my FaceTime, but when I'm taking a shit... No, you can't fake, no, no, no. I gotta call you back and it gotta be silent. You shouldn't be shitting on FaceTime. I'm not, no, but like music, yeah. Yeah, you need a little music, you need water running. Cause water relaxes you when you hear running water. It's wasting water, right? It relaxes you. Fuck that water. You relax. Plenty of people that would like it. Yeah, just relax and play some music and you know. No. Just let it go, drop the kids off. Silence. And I can't be doing nothing on my phone. Like it needs to be silent and I need to concentrate. You need to concentrate when you're taking a shit? What are you concentrating on? Gotta work your hands. Just like this shit, like yeah. I hug my knees and I just, I really focus. In silence? Get the squatty part. In silence, mm-hmm. To me that's sick, but I can't even go to sleep with silence. So I don't know, maybe I'm silent. You play music and you're taking a shit. Are you serious? Ryan, you're taking a shit. You have to. Bro, what do we, I've never. Bro like, oh I'm watching a video on YouTube or something like something. A silent shit is crazy. That's crazy to me. No. Push it. You gotta play song, pebble, push it. We taking a shit for sure. That's top five. That's too much. I would be so overstimulated. Or Rick Ross push it to the limit. Yeah. I would be so overstimulated with music while taking a shit. I would be so overstimulated. Like what would happen? You won't be able to shit? No, I just, it would like bug me. Like when I get overstimulated, like my skin crawls. So if I'm hearing too many sounds or feeling too many things at once, like I just want to crawl out of my skin. I wouldn't be able to do it. Are you autistic? I'm not gonna lie. If I go take a test, there's a good chance I'm probably a little higher on the spectrum than most. I'm not sure. Cause you know it's hard for us to tell if women are autistic. Cause women, one of the easier ways to sell if a man is autistic is because men can't take directions when they're autistic. It's like, that's one of the signs. Women can, y'all can take directions and how to do things in structures. Like getting in the kitchen. It's like that with ADHD too. Like finding out I had ADHD when I was younger. When you're younger, the boys like, it's usually like hyper, the hyper part. So men are very hyperactive when they have ADHD when they're kids, girls aren't really like that. Their mind is more hyperactive than their body. So ADHD gets skipped in young girls a lot. Okay. If you are in fact on the spectrum, we could use you in fashion. Based on available survey data, a significant minority of people still use the bathroom in silence. A 2025 survey indicated that 66% of people regularly use their smartphones on the toilet. Okay. Using your smartphone. The number should be higher than that. The smartphone doesn't have to make noise. Like if you want to read an article. Yeah. That's true. That's always been a thing. I've read on the toilet. Reading is fine. I mean, that's what you used to do was to grab a magazine or the newspaper. Yeah. Reading is fine, but the sound, the only sound I should hear is like my- This is why DeMaris being silent is crazy because it says time spent. Those who do not use phones, the silent group, which is DeMaris, likely spend less than five minutes on the toilet while heavy phone users off spend over 15 minutes. DeMaris be on that toilet more than five minutes. Four and I'll be on the toilet for an hour, but in silence. Oh wait till y'all have kids. I don't believe that. That's going to be your statement. She's not on the toilet for an hour in silence. Yes. There's no fucking way. But I can use my phone and not have the phone make noise. I don't want the phone to make noise. You can read articles, you can scroll, but like for it to be making noise or listening to music or watching a movie. Some individuals specifically require complete silence to relax the pelvic floor and manage shy bowel syndrome. Oh, it's called parko presses. You have parko presses. I got parko presses. My booty shy. You have a shy bowel. That makes sense though. You got the pulse. Oh. That makes a lot of sense. Cause you tried anal that one time and got scared. Oh, okay. This might be a TMI, but maybe Netflix will cut this part off. So when you're sitting there for an hour, are you wiping your butt and then sitting or you just got a shitty ass for an hour and then. Ooh, that should be itching. And then you wipe it. That should be itching. That should be itching. That should be itching. Do you wipe and then just chill or like we just sitting there? Parko presses or shy bowel is a common anxiety disorder characterized by the inability to defecate and public or shared restrooms. Okay. So she's, she's okay. Maybe shy here. Well, are you shy at home as well on the toilet? Maybe, I don't know. Shared restrooms due to fear of being heard or judged affecting seven to 32% of people. It causes severe distress, avoiding public restrooms and physical, and physical issues like constipation and abdominal pain, treatment involves behavioral therapy, graduated exposure. So you graduated exposure, Dimash, you have to expose your butthole a little more so it won't be shy and relaxation techniques. Yeah. See? I'll think about that for next time. I'm going to try to go home and shit with music. Yeah, just put some tunes on. I don't even like the thought of it freaks me out. I just, I think giving birth and silence is crazier, but. Nah, that's some shit you just got. Well, giving birth is like we have people around you, coaching you, talking to you, you know. Yeah. Kind of like. We had the, the music was loud. We had candles. We took, because remember we were recording at my house at the time. So I had all these lights. I brought all those lights. You had a hard setup during your. No, it's just that. He definitely had a mic. It was just, it was, it was. You bought the show, you bought the show with you too? You got the. Yeah. Well, we did film it. Did you have the black magic? You filmed it with one of the black magics we have here? No wonder we have no space on a hard drive over there. Got the Scorsese angles. Yeah, like. It was all the one shot. And he got mad. He was like, kid, listen, these are the lines. All right. Can't need you to focus on me and the camera. Keep your eyes here. This level right here, please. Well, you know, we did like mood lighting and candles and everything. Oh, make it a relaxed, relaxed environment. That's cool. I'm not mad at that. I respect that. But all right. Well, we were right back tomorrow, right gang? Yes, sir. Unfortunately. It's good seeing y'all again. Thank you to Complex. Thank you to everybody over there. Shout out to Jordan. Yes, sir. Shout out to everybody that made the list. Everybody that didn't make the list. Tomorrow's, well, next year's another year. And hopefully we'll see some new faces. Yeah. Different rankings. But either way, we're all grateful to be a part of this culture and this ecosystem. Whether we love each other or hate each other, we're all a part of it, right? Yeah. So get used to it. Let's challenge everyone on the list and off the list to let's bring some positivity into hip hop media in 2026 and 2027. After Iceman, we can do that. Everyone has to say they love it. I got the shit to get off. This is my redemption. Yeah. I got some shit to get off. After that though, yeah, we can cool by y'all. Is this your mic of 4045? Yeah, man, I got a, I got a, I got some shit to say. You wearing 45 this season? I got some shit to say after this album drops. I got some shit to talk. Fuck that. But we'll be back soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. No, warrior, no. This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.