The 2026 NFL Draft Take Purge

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This is not a test. This is your emergency podcast system announcing the commencement of the annual take purge. At the Siren, all takes, including things you don't actually believe, will be legal for 60 continuous minutes. No players, coaches, or media members of any kind will be granted immunity. All rational thought, logic, and professional credibility will be suspended. The Ringer Podcast Network thanks you for your participation. May our take God, Chris Sims, be with you all. Welcome to the 2026 NFL Draft Take Purge. We are blessed today by the light of our take God, Chris Sims. One day he'll join us for this. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Corleback, two men ready to cleanse their souls. Danny Kelly, are you ready to be purified in the light of our takes today? I think I feel a little bit like what a gladiator must have felt like before they went out into the Coliseum. That's how I feel right now. I'm simultaneously jacked up and scared. I weirdly have a follow up to the two things you both just said that make sense, where I was just in the Dolby Coliseum in Las Vegas. In the Dolby Coliseum, I saw Phil Sims, the father of our take God, Chris Sims. Nice. I literally saw a Sims in a Coliseum in Las Vegas this last week. Very oddly specific. We do a lot of draft coverage. It's too long. The whole thing takes too long. The season ends and there's three months. If that is not something I've been harping on for years and years, that would have been to take purge of mind is that the draft should be like March 1st or the day after the combine. Day after the Super Bowl would be fine. And so look, throughout the course of this preparation, we're just doing so much research. You're watching so many players. You're doing all this work that the truth is you get a lot of intrusive thoughts, intrusive takes, if you will, unwanted ideation. And we discovered years ago that the key to all of this really is we have to purge all of these takes. Because you know what? Sometimes the media doesn't let us say the takes we really want to say. Sometimes we're ridiculed for honest opinions. And that's what this episode is for. I think Ben Stiller should really thank us because we kind of invented severance. Let's be honest. For one hour, we don't know when this horn is about to play, but for one hour, our minds are wiped. We are in the take cage. Oh, it's starting. I don't know who I am outside the take purge, but I'm excited to be inside the take purge. All right, boys, one hour of consequence free takes. All professional credibility is suspended for the next 60 minutes. To the extent we had any, yes. I know. I feel like maybe we don't even need the purge anymore. Who knows? There is true. Do we go with the age or beauty here? DK, Craig, who wants to start off here? I'll start out. I'll do it. I'll get the ball rolling. Wow. Beauty. You want to get something on my chest? Here's my take. Here's my take. And I genuinely believe this. Jeremiah Love should have just run slow at the combine on purpose. To go to a worse team? To go to a better team? I mean, that's what I meant. Sorry to go later in the draft. He is too fast for his own good. He is too good for his own good. I'm definitely afraid that we're going to see Jeremiah Love go to a team where his talents are not being properly utilized and he's not going to do anything of note, anything actually important until year six. What team are you talking about, DK? God, I mean, like, first of all, Tennessee. Tennessee is like one of the ones that are connected to them. Can you imagine the degradation having to go there and for probably five years at least? God, I just don't want to see that. Arizona, the worst team in the NFL in terms of franchise health and goodness to the players. I don't want to see him go to freaking Arizona. People are talking about that today. The Giants, look, I love you, man, but the whole time I've known you, the Giants have been fucking terrible. I don't want to go to the Giants. I don't want them to have the career track of Seguin Barker. I don't want them to finally do something worthwhile in year six or seven. DK, you've touched on something fascinating. We have a huge problem in the NBA right now. It's the topic of the season is tanking. And we don't like to see it. We don't want to see teams tank to get a higher draft pick. But what you've just put in my brain, something I've never considered before, which is tanking the NFL Combine. Players tanking. That's what we need to see. Which is absolutely fascinating that oftentimes we see players not finish out the rest of their season because they don't want to get hurt because then they would get drafted later. However, if you make it through the season and you're a highly projected pick, you expect to make a lot of money in your career. So that's not a huge issue. You're betting on yourself, really. You're betting on yourself. Usually guys don't attend to the Combine because they're afraid of underperforming. But in reality, they should skip the Combine because they're afraid of overperforming and getting drafted too high. Yes. I don't know if that's what you were thinking, but if you were, that's genius. Yes. They need to stop mogging other players. Yes. Just be in the background. We learn, mogging is not doing well right now. Clavicular is struggling. I mean, he was in the hospital. Yes. He might not be able to stream anymore. I don't know what that means. I don't want to live in a world where Clavicular is not streaming. I don't even want to see that future for me or my children. So this is fascinating. I kind of this is yeah, tanking on, you know what I mean? Look, they can't. They can't the tank purge. They can't admit to it, but maybe just fall down in the 40, you know, have your dick fall out. That worked out for Chris Jones. Yeah, because it's really good. Like if Pukinakua had ran a four three, he would have gone really high. It's right. Four six and the Rams took him and Sean McGaes like this guy is good. More players like Sonny Stiles is going to go to a shitty team, but he should have read exactly and could go to a good team because it's it's different than not showing up. Because if Jeremiah love fake to hamstring, it's too obvious. People and people know how great he is. He needs to legitimately underperform at the combine so that people lower him down their board. That's fascinating. That's really good. I like that you turned that into a semi serious player. Should take teams should stop taking the players should start. Yeah, that's pretty good. Well, I feel like that will ultimately lead to the end of the combine, which I'm ultimately for because, you know, it's a long week. Did you want to go, Greg? I have something a little bit. Do you have a follow up to that? I have a complete pivot. But then I have somewhat related. OK, so DK, you're saying that the teams you're in my love could go to are bad. Is that what you're saying? Are you including my New York Giants in that? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. It's messed up, man. All right, I do have something I've been wanting to get off my chest. And this is a true take, Birch. Some of these are things we believe and we're afraid to say. Some of these are, though, were like truly like true unwanted ideation. Thoughts have been trying to push to the periphery, but the only way to get rid of this is to just say it. And I'm going to say I'm going to leave it behind here this hour. OK, you guys ready? Mm hmm. I am really worried that the John Harbaugh Giants are going to suck. And it's going to be catastrophe. I almost trolled you about this today, like legitimately today. Like I saw an interview with, I believe it was Zay flowers. And I can't remember who he's talking about. I think it was maybe Leonard Fournet or somebody and on a podcast. And he was talking about how he feels bad for the Giants because John and they were he was happy to see John Harbaugh go because part of the reason, a big part of the reason he thinks that they were struggling late in the season so many times in the playoffs is because they were injured because they were doing too many padded practices. He's like too old school. He's he's, you know, grinding these guys down. They're all injured or hurt or tired by the end of the season. They can't play to their peak. Luckily, the Giants don't really have any injury players. Right. Sure. Their quarterback running back and wide receiver are beacons of health. Anyway, fascinating, fascinating. So I'm concerned. Look, first of all, strike one with the Harbaugh thing to your point, D.K. She's kind of old like he's an old guy. This is kind of like stuck in his way. The whole thing all over again. Like, did we learn anything from last year? We're like, Pete Carroll forced out of this situation where he won a Super Bowl and was there forever because he's out of touch with the league and can't win. Then he went to the Raiders. We're like, God, God, an adult in the room finally. Aren't we doing the same thing with Harbaugh and the Giants? And also strike two. Everyone unanimously, universally is like great job. Which when does that work? Yeah, that I mean, that's probably the smartest. Take big red flag. He is 10 years younger than Pete Carroll. He's not 73. No, he's not 73. And again, I'm excited about this and I want to be. But you know what else? What's Pete Carroll's biological? You're just afraid because like something good happened to the Giants and you don't know what to do. I am. And I am afraid that's 100 percent accurate. I'm also a little bit afraid of the staff he's collecting. I know this is what I was going to say. Hi, I feel like we're brushing over or glossing over the fact that the Giants, after all, the, you know, interviewing everybody to be their O.C. just brought in Matt Nagy, who the chiefs just were happy to let go. Dude, Andy Reed has been with Matt Nagy forever. And he was like, you know what, we got to just separate because. And you know who else did that? They have Greg Roman, who John Harbaugh had to fire, even though they've been friends forever. And then Jim Harbaugh took him in and then Jim Harbaugh had to fire him because he couldn't hang on. And now he's back with John. And I'm like, it's Matt Nagy and Greg Roman, who were forced out by their like long term friends. And then Brian Callahan, who it's just it's Callahan on the staff. He's the quarterbacks coach. And he's overqualified as a head coach, but it's like, look, and you're like, it's a weird group of guys. And I'm I'm just I'm I'm a little afraid. And also, guess what? When Joe Shane or Dave Gettleman draft of Running Back with the fifth pick. Everyone makes fun of them. Well, you know what? John Harbaugh is going to take a running back with the fifth pick. And you know what? I'm a little worried that someone emailed in his Mike McCarthy with a gym membership. Hey, what's up? Gym members. I'm just saying like I'm a little worried. Like everyone just I just feel like I get a hand at all these flowers and medals and congratulations. And I'm the guy in the podium, like biting the metal. And I look down and I'm like, we're going to come in ninth in the NS. Yeah. I'm like, I just I'm a little I whiplash. That's all all the time that that John Harbaugh spending in the gym. McCarthy's crushing tape. So I know he's he's watching every single game in the entire. He's consuming tape and other things. OK. You know what I will say, though? The John Harbaugh thing is a floor razor. The Giants have had one season with a winning record since like 2016. Harbaugh, you might be right, but don't you think at the bare minimum, like Harbaugh will make the team competent? And that is the goal. That's what we say with Pete Carroll. Let's say Brian Davill had such an awesome offense with the Giants that did a great job, Jackson Tarpe. Man, they just kept blowing all these leads with the Giants. And so that's why they brought in John Harbaugh, who, let's see here, was run out of town by the Ravens because he kept blowing fucking leaves. OK, but aren't you the one who's defended like it's a Zay flowers fumble? It's a Tyler loop mist kick. It's like it's all these reasons that aren't Harbaugh's fault. They just are unlucky. Happened on his team. Yeah, I'm just saying the two coaches who have blown the most leads the last two years are Brian Davill and John Harbaugh. That's all. I'm worried. I'm just trying to talk to you guys here. I'll leave this here. I'm never going to bring it up ever again or admit that or acknowledge. I said this. Your fear is warranted. I understand. You're afraid. You should be. It's like you just found one hundred thousand dollars on the ground and you're like, this can't be right. I'm going to get in trouble for this. Someone is aiming the gun at me. The fucking what is the no country for old men guys. He's going to be following me around. That is exactly what John Harbaugh. Wow, Anton Churga. Yeah, this is John Churgaugh. He's paying some money. There's no problem here. So so he's Tommy Lee Jones. That's John Harbaugh. Is that you? I don't know. I don't know either. OK. That's valid. Yeah. Buckle up here. Oh, God. Strap in. The Mike Vrable, Diana Rossini thing was good for the pets. Oh, OK. I believe that. We talk all the time about we talk all the time about how a Super Bowl lost destroys a team. The pets were already going to be everybody's pick to regress. They were going to be the 20 25 commanders. Oh, the fourth down thing for the commanders. They're going to regress and then they did. Vibes are horrible. Jane Daniels got hurt. Everybody was right. The pets are going from an inexplicable inexplicable, surprisingly successful season. 14 wins with Vrable. They make the Super Bowl and now everyone's like, well, that's obviously going to regress. They went from the easiest schedule in the league to now probably one of the hardest, a first place schedule. Now you have a distraction. Now you have a much needed distraction after a perfectly perfect season. All of a sudden you're an underdog again. All of a sudden, all of a sudden you have adversity. You know what I mean? Now you can rally behind Mike Vrable. And you know who can sympathize with getting caught cheating? Athletes. Wow. This is this is like the galaxy brain. Now, now doesn't even explain it. Now, this is an impossible season. This is an insurmountable hurdle. They are no longer the team that that needs to win 14 games again. It's like, oh, my God, can this team do anything? Are they going to break? Now they're back. Now they're back where they were a year ago. Wow. OK, I'm trying to unpack this because I feel like losing a Super Bowl is already kind of like hard on a team. It wasn't a must win game. We talked about that. That's true. The Super Bowl for the Patriots was not a must win game. Yeah. Now the expectations that they set, I think they're much lower now because of this, and that's ultimately a good thing. That I can that I can see that I can see 100 percent. It lowers it lowers expectations, takes the pressure off a little bit. It called it before. There's this random thing where they're like, you know how to put out an oil fire, start a bigger fire. Like, look over there. This is this is diabolical, Craig. And like even for the take purge. Yeah, that's good. I kind of believe it. I kind of believe it. Anyway, by the way, and they're going to trade for AJ Brown soon. Yeah, fuck yeah. Oh, I have something related to that, actually. OK. I thought about this a lot and I'd rather trade for Jeff Stoutland than AJ Brown. Can you do that? Is he? Yes. I just don't know. You can train coaches, right? I know, but I thought he was a line coach and he quit. He's under contract for a year, right? He quit. Yeah, he quit because he hates Nick Sirianni and they can't work together, but he's under contract. And I'd actually if I'm like a late first round pick with the Patriots, you have the 31st pick, I think the Patriots should actually trade for Jeff Stoutland before they trade for AJ Brown. I'd rather give the 30 for the coach than the. That's not even is that like a dark, deep, dark thought or is that just a good idea? No, no. Well, I'm like, you trade for a 64 year old coach. OK, cool. Who's going to make the offense better? Jeff Stoutland, who again, just like orchestrated the Eagles pulling offensive linemen out of their ass for 15 years or like AJ Brown, he's going to be like 29. Just like Jason Kelsey is a six round pick and he's going to go to the Hall of Fame. Yeah. And Jordan Milot had never played fucking football and he's the top five left tackle. I'm like, give me Jeff Stoutland. He's clearly more important to it. I go back and forth on like who I'd rather would I rather be the team acquiring AJ Brown or the team getting rid? I still don't really know. Right. There's not a very good answer on that. No. Why? AJ Brown is no clear winner. Extremely underrated because of the last year. Like I think AJ Brown is way better. I also am just kind of dubious. I I I don't know. I don't know who's trading for him, but because like every every possibility seems totally like reasonable, like of what could happen. Like he could go to the Pats and have 1400 yards and 12 touchdowns. And I'd be like, yeah, I can see that. Or he could like get hurt and get in a fight with his teammates and like mail in the season and like he's like not in a league in two years. I don't know. But don't you think that when AJ Brown gets traded and then they play the little highlights on television, you'll be, oh, yeah, right. He's so good. This is good. Of course. Like like pop quiz. Do you know how many games Trey Hendrickson played last year? Seven. OK. Well, when he signed with the Ravens, everyone's like, wow, God, fucking genius is Ravens flip cross before Trey Hendrickson. He barely played last year. Yeah. But then you sign the guy goes to a new team and everyone's like genius. Like I can't tell. Is it as simple as the Eagles literally didn't throw to AJ Brown and Jalen Hertz pretty much just wasn't throwing to AJ Brown and Drake May, who is a much more diverse skill set, throwing the ball will just obviously throw to AJ Brown way more all over the field and he'll be happy and everything will be roses. I kind of think it is that simple, actually. Yeah. I do, too. It's like Josh Allen getting Stefan Dix. It's like, oh, yeah, right. That was good. Yeah. That leads to my next take related to the Eagles. I think the Eagles should draft high Simpson. Yeah. OK. Start preparing. A quarterback factory. Bama ties Simpson waited his turn. Jalen Hertz got their Bama waiting his turn. And Tyson can sit there. Iron sharpens iron man sharpens man. Hurts can get benched for another Alabama quarterback. Yes. As time is a flat as the prophecy foretold. Yeah. God damn right. Another new alarmed Alabama quarterback. Yes. He doesn't have a new alarm. Well, there's something there. One of my takes was basically a tie Simpson related thing. It's simply I refuse to be gaslit that tie Simpson is a first round quarterback. I'm sorry. Yeah. He has 15 starts in his career, which is like enough for me to say, no, I'm not doing that. He and he's small and he was hurt for half the year. And as high fits like to point out, I don't know if this is factual, but it's definitely something people are saying. Many people are saying this. Sure. He left for the pros because Alabama just wanted to start his backup anyway. They kicked him out. They have a quarterback competition and tie Simpson might have come in third. I don't know if that's true, but I'm going to choose to believe it's true for this. And by the way, who are the two teams in the last week? And we know that rumors start to really heat up in this time of year. Who are the two teams? The chorus of team and that are connected to Tyson's and right now, the two teams are Arizona. And I think Daniel Jeremiah said today, it's all but a given that Tyson's and is going to end up in Arizona. And then the jets. Good luck, buddy. But they're not saying Arizona, obviously not Arizona, taking him at three. That's like coming back into the first or early in the second. Yeah. The point you made. The funny thing about Tyson, too, is the charitable interpretation of Tyson's season is he was so horrific in November and December, just abominable because he was hurt, but he was hurt because he hurt his back and then had to take pain pills and his stomach lighting eroded and basically lost like 12 to maybe almost almost 20 pounds during the season because he couldn't really digest anything, which. At least he has half a season of good tape at most, but also doesn't really have any of calibre stomach lining. Doesn't have if he doesn't have the intestinal fortitude, he does not have the intestinal fortitude. Like if you tell me he's a small guy who can't take pain pills. It's like you're going to have to eat a lot of uncrustables at the NFL level. You need to be able to withstand that. He needs the peanut butter and jelly on the lining. Yeah, exactly. You got to get that down your esophagus. I have a follow up kind of in the quarterback class category, OK, which is that part of me thinks not all of me. Like this is a real like intrusive thought I just had one time where I'm like. Maybe the Raiders should trade out of the first pick. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm kind of like are they ready? The quarterback class is bad. This is a bad quarterback class. And like maybe you don't have to take Mendoza just because he's the only decent one available. You know what I mean? It's like it feels like it feels like an arranged marriage between the Raiders and Mendoza where it's like, I guess. Just go home and crank one out. You'll feel better in the morning. It kind of. I'm like, you just got clean. Kubiak like settle in a little bit. You know what I mean? You know, don't make a bad decision. You know, next year, the quarterbacks are going to be great. Like maybe maybe give it a year. It's like we don't think Fernando Mendoza is Drake May or Jaden Daniels or Caleb Williams. Like a lot of people think he's closer to the Bonix Michael Penix camp. So it's like, OK, don't take him. There's been reports that people have been interested in the first pick. Maybe trade it away. Do you really want to just be like, yeah, we'll take Kirk Cousins. We're just going to get Kirk Cousins. Maybe maybe maybe not. Just a thought. Capitalized and sell high right now. Yeah. I don't know. Do you guys, does any part of you think like? Because there are certain drafts where the first quarterback taken is more because there's no one else than there is, because they are they have the talent of the first overall pick. Does that ever cross your mind? Like, I think it's it's like 50 50, probably. You know what I mean? In terms of like, how many quarterbacks that go first overall in your mind have the talent of a first overall pick? That's a good question. I think it's probably 25 percent or something like that. You know what I mean? Especially if you look at drafts, there's been a handful recently where I think it's very much like Caleb, Jaden and Drake may probably all could have been the number one. If they had been spread out, they probably would have each been first overall picks in different drafts. But then you go back over the years and I think the quarterback position pushes guys up for sure. Like those three guys, if they were dropped into 2023, would all go ahead and see each other. Stroud and Bryce Young. Yeah. And they would all go ahead of Cam Ward and they would all go ahead of Fernando Mendoza. It's kind of crazy thinking that Bryce Young was the first overall pick at his side. That was weird. Yeah. Wait, that happened, right? Yeah. That was a thing. Yeah, it's crazy. Stroud. This is this is a very fascinating thought experiment, though, Craig, because I think you're absolutely right that I think general consensus is he's not a quote unquote first overall pick type player. You know, he might not be trembling. Might end up he might end up being the next Joe Burrow for all we know. Of course, he could be Tom Brady. Right. But, you know, I feel like Mendoza is a Hall of Famer. I think he's got multiple super. Is that your take? I think, yeah, the way just everything we know about him, like his personality, I'm like, yeah, I could see this. Dude, people keep saying this is a bad draft. Meanwhile, I'm like, I think Fernando Mendoza is a Hall of Famer. I cheer my loves a Hall of Famer. I think Caleb Downs is a Hall of Famer. And I think honestly, I'm either one of the top eight, top 10 pick. I do. I think Caleb Downs Hall of Famer loves Hall of Famer. Keep in mind that a year ago, Hife, it said that Travis Hunter was going to be the greatest player in the history of the NFL. Yeah, can't call it a comeback. You know what? We can we're not supposed to talk about that, Craig. Right. Well, no, in the take purges. Oh, we can. The only the only outside knowledge I have is of other take purges. It's like it's like your drunk memory. This is my any. Only knows other purges. Yeah, because that was just yesterday. It felt like, you know, yeah, my any is just like, you know what? I was dead right when I said that fucking saying, God bless you. After you sneeze is ridiculous. I still feel that way. Yeah. Oh, you're going to make everyone else feel better because I sneeze. It's like just just that's insane. Say excuse me. That's where we left off. Who did we open? We opened last year's take purge saying that Travis Hunter was just going to play one side of the field and be fine. Craig. Yeah. The guy was like the easiest trade out in the history of trade out. Yeah, I was like, just absolutely sell high. Why would you and then the Browns did. The hit rate on this episode in the past is shockingly high. Yeah, it's weird. I see, kid, you have any of the purge? I've got a few here. These are less like crazy things and more just stuff I've been pondering. This one is might come as a surprise to you guys because we haven't talked about them a whole lot, but I think Max Clare, the tight end from Ohio State is going to be the next trade McBride slash San report a type of player. He got lost in the shuffle this last year for Ohio State because he was playing alongside Jeremiah Smith and Carnal Tate. But if you looked at what he was doing at Purdue in 2024, the year before, as in he was a featured part of this offense, I to me, he looked like a trade McBide type player. You run after the catch, strong hands, really explosive speed to beat guys in yards after the catch, toughness, body control, acceleration. He has all the traits on tape. And then this year, this last year, he just wasn't like as big part of the thing. And obviously, I understand that he's going to be with good players in the NFL. And but I do think like any tight end, where they land is going to matter. And if he can land in a system where they're going to feature him in the offense, I think he could put up big time numbers. I love that take. And I actually don't think Kenyon's to be cool ever outscore Max Clare and fantasy. See, that's where I was I was thinking about going there. I was like, I think Clare, I think basically what I'm saying is I think Clare is going to be the most productive tight end in this class in fantasy. Anytime DK has a feeling like this, I usually trust him. It usually is correct. It's usually correct. I think you're right, DK. I don't think Kenyon's even the best at it in Oregon. And I think Max Clare is. I know that's like everybody was like, yeah, talking about the guy that he played with. So, yeah, I think Max Clare is a name to keep in mind for for leagues, especially tight and heavy tight and premium leagues, because I don't know, man, I just think physical physical makeup and athleticism run after the catch toughness. You know, it's funny, DK. Another thing that happens sometimes it's a mix of like people washing tape and then you talk to coaches and stuff and all these people do that in the industry. And half the problem for Max Clare is that he's on Ohio State. And at best, he's like the fourteenth guy that gets brought up. Right. Like like there are so like there are so many players on Ohio State the last two years that you could talk to Ryan Day for like an hour and he might not even come up. Can I ask you? This is just a random question that popped in my head, because I think obviously the response would be like if he couldn't be featured in his college offense, why would he be featured in the NFL? How many NFL teams have better receivers than Cardinal Tate and Jeremiah Smith right now? Oh, like what like what how what number of teams would have a better receiver duo than those two guys? I wonder. I think you're right. It's probably like six or seven. I mean, the Eagles and they're trying to break it up and the Bengals. And that's the only ones I can say like 100 percent. Like Jeremiah Smith is probably going to be apart from Kordak's the top ranked player in the draft, maybe the first overall pick next year. And then Cardinal Tate looking like a top five pick. Pretty fucking good. So anyways, that's just the thought I had. The more I've watched him and I went back and watched him again the other day, just because Max. Max Claire, not sure. Max Claire. Yes, Jeremiah Smith's awesome, too. But just watching Max Claire just the way he moves. It really reminds me of those guys. The La Porta McBride style players. Can I stay? I want to stay at Ohio State for a moment. Yeah. Part of me kind of thinks that sunny styles is just going to get drafted by the wrong team and be pretty mid. I like this, actually. That's good. People are tantalized by his measureables, but he needs to be in like a perfect Mike McDonald's ESC system to be deployed correctly. And I feel like some idiotic team is just going to be like he jumped really high and he has a cool name and they'll take him like in the top six. And then he'll kind of just be pretty average. It's like, oh, it's cool when a defensive back is big, but now it's like, oh, he's a linebacker that might be a little bit thinly framed. And like the Bengals might just take him and Derek Kenyrell just fucking run right through him. This is good. This is what this is what this is for. Trying to it's like, because I remember prior to the draft, he was he had some hype or sorry, prior to the combine. Well, no, that's a good amount of hype. But then when he came out of the combine, it was like, holy shit. If you look at any mock in February, he was not a top 10 player. And many mocks, he was not a top 15 player. And then the same thing happens that always does. It's these measureables, right? He jumps, he has a 43 and a half inch vertical. He runs really fast. All that stuff happens and then everyone's like, actually, should he go third? And I don't know, maybe the initial projections were right. And I but I more think that it's like he's not going to fit on every team. And if the wrong team takes him, he's going to get screwed because this would you know, this is a linemen are getting bigger. Teams are running more. And if he's on the wrong team in the wrong position, he might just be pretty average with two or two players. What are you talking about, Craig? Not saying any name. Name a team. Name a team. Name any team. Name a woman in the top six. OK, Arizona, Tennessee. Yeah, that is that it for the wrong teams. This is how this is how I feel about a lot of tweener players. I feel like the tweener defensive players that kind of don't have a real position in college or like maybe that a position that doesn't translate exactly to the pros are similar to quarterbacks in some ways, because when you get drafted highly by a team that's taking you in the top five, top eight, top seven or whatever, there you run into the same problem as the quarterbacks that have that happen to them, where after one year, the coach is gone. Then a new guy comes in. Now they now they want you to gain 15 pounds and play off the ball. Or now they want you to whatever, you know, I think it'd be the opposite. Gain 15 pounds and then play on the ball. Gain lose 10 pounds and play just linebacker or whatever. And then you get lost in the shuffle along the way as the team, as the new regime starts taking guys that they want to play. And you see this happen all the time with with quarterbacks where it's like, oh, God, I'm on my fourth offensive quarter coordinator now. What it does happen with defensive players, too, where these tweeners that need a little bit of development or don't have a very clear trajectory in the NFL, because we're saying the same thing about Arville Reese, where it's like, OK, where do you play him? Is he an off ball linebacker or a pass rusher or both? I couldn't agree more. And so not that I think this is going to happen to these players, because I think they're supremely talented with Arville Reese and Sonny Styles. They're both supremely talented, obviously, but Craig, you bring up a great point because landing spot is going to be important for any of these guys. I couldn't agree more. I what is the Arville Reese in particular? What is the hit rate on guys who could be like, oh, he could be anything. And it's like, usually you don't know to do it. And it's like your imagination. He could be anything, even nothing. Exactly. And Arville Reese, I think two things are true. He's the best defensive prospect in the draft, even with my beloved Caleb Downs. And I also think he will not have a good rookie contract because Arville Reese is going to be drafted. I think drafted by the Jets, Aaron Glenn's going to exactly what you just said. They're going to try to make him be a defensive end, hand in the ground. And then he's going to get fired. And then Arville, I mean, he's a. Yeah, Aaron Glenn, and it's for three years are cooked right there. I really do think that happens all the time. But like, if you go back, this has happened so many players. I'm worried. I'm definitely worried. I think that's a good call. Anything else in the Ohio State guys? Nope. I have a coach related one. Is it Mike Vrabel related? I'm ready to keep going on that. Oh, no, you've got more. Vrabel. No, no, no. Just if you wanted to. But but if not, that's OK. I have. No, I got one. So Viking said coach Kevin O'Connell. Where's this going? Former Aztec. Everyone thinks Kevin O'Connell is a quarterback whisperer. Kevin O'Connell is not a quarterback whisperer. He's just hot. Is this a good fit or is he just hot? It's just a very attractive tall man. That's so. So why? Why is him being hot? How does that help Sam Darno play better? Sam Darno just want to super well without him. He's good. Sam Darno's just good. Sam Darno's just good. And what about all the other guys from Kyle Shanahan? You know what happened? You know who was a good quarterback whisperer? Grant Yudinsky, who is working for Kevin O'Connell. You know where he played last? You know, you coached last year, the Jaguars. You know, played great down the stretch. Trevor Lawrence, you know, played like ass. All the quarterbacks in the Vikings. Grant Yudinsky was the brains in Minnesota. Kevin O'Connell is a pretty face. Oh, my God. I love the incredible amount of just assumptions being made here. It's great. And yet it's like Sherlock Holmes level deduction. You see, you see he has a little bit of a tan line on his wrist. And therefore he was in the French Riviera last March. Behind every great coach is a behind every hot great coach is a ugly play caller who really pulls the strings. That's what you're saying. Just a cretin. With that said, I don't know what Grant Yudinsky looks like. So maybe maybe he's handsome. Doesn't look like Kevin O'Connell. Oh, OK. It's like that. Kevin O'Connell has a great jaw. I'll give him that. He's all. And because he's tall, all you look at is the jaw. For a quarterback. Yeah. I'm just saying, Kyler Murray, like that might the Vikings might even start hot because Kyler Murray starts out. I'm just saying we're going to convince ourselves five weeks in because the Vikings are going to start for one or five and oh, that Kevin O'Connell did it again. And it's going to be like every Kyler Murray season ever, which is they're going to just completely fade in December and January, just completely fades. You know, like everything else. There is a lot of hype for Minnesota. I do feel like 10 wins is like the floor. Like I feel like that is needed for the season to not be considered a disappointment, which is a lot of pressure. That's great. By the way, Grant Yudinsky, he has nice hair. Good hair. He's got hair. Let me pull it up, which which Kevin O'Connell finning a little bit. He looks great in a hat. Oh, a year from now. I hear from now. Kevin O'Connell shines going to come off. Grant Yudinsky shines going to come. Oh, you didn't. He's got a great head of hair. Oh, he's not a bad looking guy. It's like a play. It's pretty impressive. 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He has incredible instincts and coverage. He's super tough, super dependable, versatile, can play outside, can play in the slot, probably can play safety if he wanted, instinctive and coverage. He reads the quarterback's eyes and jumps routes, ball production. It's all there. He plays above his weight class in terms of his toughness and physicality at the catch point. You only give one touchdown in coverage. The only thing that's holding him back, he's like the Russell Wilson of fucking cornerbacks. The only thing that's holding him back is he's short. I think he's going to be awesome in the end of the day. I want to just co-sign this. I want everything D.K. said to just be like Michael Scott. Like Daddy Kelly. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, man, he's just fun to watch. And I just like the way he plays. I think that translates to NFL. I understand he's not very big, but I think he makes up for it with everything else he does. I do think you have a great read on undersized prospects who will outperform their grade. Like people like Devon H.H. Like I feel like you have a good sense of guys who are undersized and if they'll actually be OK in the NFL. Yeah, the H.H.N. one. I mean, he's got a defensive version of this because I think people were talking about H.H.N. He's going to be have to switch to receiver or something because he's too small. But Pons, I mean, the way he moves is different. So what about Keontes Scott? I should work. He's up there too, man. Yeah. Part of me just wants to say Keontes Scott's going to be the defensive rookie of the year. He's the 20. He's going to be 25 year old rookie as a quarterback for Miami and he can't really cover, which is an insane thing to say about a quarterback safety, whatever he's going to play. But I just look at Keontes Scott and like he's the fastest player I've ever seen that loves tackling and loves run defense. He's I've never seen a four three player that like a legit four three speed that loves tackling. If I can only if I only had one question to ask a defensive prospect in a meeting, I think it might be, do you love tackling? Yeah, because if if somebody even hesitates for a second, I drop them down on my board. Oh, 100 percent, Craig, I completely agree. There's guys in college when you watch their tape, they're like. They just they look a little aloof or something. They're just not they're not as intense and connected and like conflict. Avoid it. Yeah, it's like I kind of refer to them. I don't know if this is a term or not, but like pile watchers, the guys that just kind of like run over and then watch the other guys tackle and lean on it at the end. Yeah, they're like, you know, they're doing their part. Like they put their hand on it. But to me, the guys that the famous scouting term is they like they can stick their face in the fan. They just want to fucking tackle. They want to go down in there and frigging hit somebody. And those are the guys generally speaking, sometimes they don't have very long careers, but they're awesome in the NFL because they're just so willing to and they love hitting and they love ball. Didn't you say, can't I? Scott was like living in the weight room or something. He lived in the fucking facility by the field. I want that guy in my team. Learned that practice when he was broke and had no money, but then he got an L deal for hundreds of thousands dollars. He was like, fucking, I just bought an air mattress. I'm a living in the facility. He went to sleep every night staring at Ed Reed's fucking jersey and the rafters. He's like, I just want to look at that. And he just woke up and he just was like, this way, I'm always here. But he had money. Where's he going to go in this draft? OK. How high? Well, probably day two. I don't think he'll be a first runner just because he's older. Old cornerback speed based is like speed gets drafted, but old cornerbacks don't get paid. And so I have no idea. I think it'll be a second or third or third rounder. I don't think he'll follow the fourth. I would I would guess. Relatedly, if you guys anything to add to this, I'm curious. I had I just wrote as a take perch. I just wrote a list of players who will not be good. Oh, OK. All we talk about this is actually we should do this every year. Every year. All we talk about this whole fucking draft. Here's a list. This guy is good. This guy is good. This guy is good. And then at the end of the draft, I got like 100 players. So the should have done this before I did my top 100 hyphens. But yeah, this is fine. Tell me now. I'm just saying like you pull up any draft. A third of them are not good. I know it's crazy. So I just think I'd save us all some time. I'll tell you guys that at a time is not going to be good. OK. So I mean, Ty Simpson, quarterback, obviously, I go to that saying he's a free space. Of course. Kenyon Sadiq. He's not he's fine. I've seen a thousand of them. He's literally the fastest. Fast. Strong. So it fucking sucks. We've seen a million of these guys. He'll be fine. A first round pick. I please. I please. Again, Jamar, a year from now, we're going to be like, well, Jamar Johnson was always better as a tight end at Oregon, Sadiq. Tackle to this conversation we just had. Caleb Lomu from Utah. So I'm just going to take him in the first round. Caleb Lomu has everything you can want in an offensive line and accept doesn't love hitting people. Let's take his good. He doesn't like hitting people. He well, he likes it, doesn't love it. Kind of the only part of the job that really matters. Loving hitting people doesn't have that. Similarly, Caden Proctor. Huge, fast. It's not like hitting people. I not if it's like there's one problem happy. If you're so big and so strong and so fast, why the fuck aren't you better at blocking? I mean, that's a valid. It's a valid question. Caleb Banks, Florida, defensive tackle is going to be going in the second round. He hurt his foot twice in one year. No fucking shot. There's no fucking shot. He's 350 pounds. Zachary Branch, receiver from Georgia sucks. Unbelievably terrible take. The worst receiver I've ever seen that will be drafted in the first two rounds. Hands-wise, I've never seen a worst receiver of the football. How many drops did you have this last year? Well, who knows? Because they just throw it on behind the line of Scribbage. Can I catch this? He had two drops, a 2.4 drop rate. Two points because everything was under the lowest drop rate of any receiver. They were handoffs. Who's like, he's still going to catch these swing passes. All right. He can catch the ball. By the way, let me sneak my purge in here because we're going to step on it. Zechariah Branch can catch. That's my take because you've been. I literally wrote this. I want to share my doc with you. Zechariah Branch can catch. Heifetz says he can't, but I say he can't. I say he can. OK, cool. He can catch. So then why does he suck? He doesn't suck. He led the SEC in catches. By the line of Scribbage. I mean, look, this is like saying why they give Christian McCaffrey a lot of carries because he's good. That's what they did with Zechariah Branch, because it was useful and it was working when he was catching those passes. Sorry, too busy winning. Yeah, it was too busy fucking taking these things and averaging eight yards after the catch. All right, would you take him with the Seox with the 32nd pick? Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Maybe it was tricky because it's like saying Blake Griffin can't shoot because all he does is dunk. And you're like, yeah, but it works. Like, why would he do anything else? That's like if you're the offensive coordinator, do you want to have points? If you're the offensive coordinator, do you want to have the quarterback throw at eight yards over your receiver or just give the ball to Zach Branch and let him run eight yards? He averaged eight yards after the catch. That actually I wish I'd come up with a take. I just did, which is called them Zach Branch. Zach Branch would never have been the number one in high school. Zachariah Branch only being Zachariah is why he was raised to lie. It does a lot. Zachariah Branch can catch. I have it written down. I can't go. Correct. Can I have one? OK. Oh, sorry. No, keep going. Have you have more bad players? Is there more? Oh, just players. Zach Cash's howl his arms are short. He's got a lot of this. Zach's 29 in charms. I my fucking tailored my arms are longer than cash. It's how he's got no chance. Fair. But yeah, I'm good. This is actually really fun. Here's a list. You got to like pull out one of those scrolls. And all these players are going to be terrible. Like we like have a trumpet next to him as he reads it. Put on your little specs. Just save us all some time. Yeah. That's good. All right, Craig, what you got? I keep having this thought that Fernando Mendoza is just going to completely embrace Las Vegas and he'll be dating a supermodel buddy next year. He's going to do the. I just think the man we see as Fernando Mendoza today is going to change and he's going to love being famous. He's going to love Las Vegas. He's going to be at nightclubs at the Bellagio, and he's going to be dating like Addis and Ray in 12 months. Honestly, I was Sydney, Swinney's dating a scooter bra now. And I was kind of thinking Mendoza might slide in the DMs. No, because Mendoza is 23, not 43. And I think that's that's a big key for Sydney, Swinney for some reason. But I'm 43, you say, huh? DK. It's an interesting number you threw out. Well, hey, shoot or shoot. Just because there's a goal, it doesn't mean you can't score. His name is Scooter, not shooter. That's right. What you know, I saw, did you guys see Fernando Mendoza on the cover of Esquire? Yeah, yeah. Look at all swanky and sexy. Sex. Yeah, I'm like, this fucking guy is going to be dating some star and he's going to love it. I mean, he wants to be Tom Brady. Yeah. Tom Brady was married to Giselle Bunchin. Tom Brady was dating a supermodel by 2004. Tom Brady was dating Bridget Moynihan by 2004. We've all seen the picture of him at the combine. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's a pretty good take. He's going to be indebted to some like Casino after like the first year he's going to owe like 17 million dollars. He's going to look at Justin Herbert be like, give me one of them big ones. That seems like a great life. Give me one of them. This is a really good take. God, I love being famous. He's going to love Vegas. Kurt Cousins isn't going to work. No. Bringing Kurt Cousins in as his moral compass. He's going to be dragging the most. Mendoza is not even going to be hung over when Kurt Cousins brings him to the church. Mendoza is going to still be. He didn't love he didn't love the sphere nightclubs. It is intoxicating. Yeah, literally, and figuratively. It's a good take. Great did just get home from Vegas. So yeah, here's one. Jonah Coleman is going to be the only other productive running back in this class. And this is more like a fantasy thing. I'm not sure that Jadaean Price is a real player. I think he's like an industry plant. Don't really know much about him. Don't think he's going to be anything in the NFL. Joanne McFarlane. Sorry, Mike Washington. I saw this from Joanne McFarlane, who does great work over at my fantasy life. And he has three closest comps in the supermodel to Mike Washington. Isaac Correndo, Israel, Abonaconda and Isaiah Pacheco. Frickin brutal. Frickin brutal. The Penn State guys both suck and Coleman is a dog. Just a dog. What about Eli Heidenreich, who we haven't talked about? He's going to be a slot receiver. He's not even a running back. The white Navy running back. Yeah, he's a receiver. I mean, it's going to be one of the Penn State quarterbacks literally played in the 1990s. So it's going to be hard. Running back. That was the funniest thing ever. Did we fear what happened with that? He posted a photo like 40 years ago. Adam Schifter. Adam Schifter tweeted out a pick. Something about Nick K. Tron Allen or was it recording this Friday? No, it was Nick Singleton. He tweeted something about Nick Singleton, like healing up and being ready to work out and being cleared physically. And then he included a picture. It was legitimately at least a minimum 30 years from before Craig and I were born. And I don't know how you could possibly narrow it down to two possible running backs from the 1990s at Penn State. I'm like, there's this is like tweeting out a picture of the boss and being like our Mason Thomas is ready for his workouts at Oklahoma's pro day. It's like, what are we doing? It's a masterclass by. I have to say. It was incredible. Yeah, he crushed it. Anyway, yeah, Jonah Coleman. I have an offseason related one. All right, please. I don't know if I've ever discussed this with you, but it's something I've always felt. I think that the Super Bowl is the worst Sunday of the NFL season. OK, that's the opposite of what they're hoping, Craig. That's right. I think it's the inverse. I think it is the worst championship of any sport by a mile. Really? Yeah, I think it sucks that you wait two weeks. I think the wind and the sales of the season is gone. There's way too much expectation. More often than not, the game is a disappointment because you've been waiting so long for it. I can make an argument for every Sunday, just being straight up more enjoyable. Usually the Super Bowl, you're in the worst sports viewing environment of the year, surrounded by people who never watched the game. Football basically. You're talking during the game so that you hear the commercials. Yeah, half the people there want to watch the commercials in between the game. Football basically already feels over. You're kind of sad. I don't look forward to it. This is money. The Steelers should never in it. That too. Plus, we watched DK watch his team in the Super Bowl. He didn't even have a good time. Well, I. They never. Never once had a good time during a sea of escape. Had a good time. I think this is a phenomenal take. I just don't think it's that good of a Sunday. I got super bowl parties are awful, awful. You show a week eight. I'm having more fun that Sunday than the Super Bowl. Week eight. Yeah, 100 percent. We ate them like, oh, we got Cowboys Packers on Sunday night. There's more intrigue. My fantasy team still has hope. Yeah. I think. Yeah. No, this is this is pretty good. It's the Super Bowl. No, but he's kind of right, though. Even so, even the finality of it, because like most of the other sports have series. And that's like a game one is whatever. Yeah, that's right. I mean, a baseball World Series going to game six or seven. Fantastic. NBA. Awesome. The last round of the Masters. Fucking great. Super Bowl. It's OK. It's good. I can't I can't pick that many holes in it because I agree with you the way that it feels during the Super Bowl, it's like kind of anti climactic a little bit in a way. Like the giddiness, I feel, waking up on week one versus the dread on Super Bowl Sunday. Plus, it starts so late. Yeah. The same reason football is so popular, which is the finality of the importance of each game. You're right. Like by the time you get to the Super Bowl, it's more like the death of something. Yeah, I think you're right. I think it's a few. It doesn't help either that it's been like the same five teams in the Super Bowl. The last two have sucked. I'm just like, yeah, it also feel like we actually have been living up to it. We've been kind of like dancing into a purge this entire season, which is. Watching your teams is horrible. Like watching sports kind of sucks. Like when is your team when your team is playing well and playing in important games? It's really fun at any point. It's dreadful. It's horrific. Like it's also very isolating because everybody else hates you for being stressed because they're like, come on, dude, your team's good. Yeah, cry more. Yeah. And you have to be like, you don't get it, which they don't. But they're also are making a good point. D-Kids watching the Seahawks in the Super Bowl, they're winning by 20. And we're like, can we make content? He's like, no, he's like, get that camera out. I'm like, you're fucking hot. So like up 19 in the fourth and he's still holding his breath. Yeah, stuff. So it's a real experience. He said they have like the eighth best vibes this off season, you know? You are the fucking Super Bowl. He can never even really enjoyed it at any point. We were within the entire time we talked about it. No, he's like Belichick. He's like, we're so behind on scouting. We're the last pick in the draft. It's 100 percent true. I'm like, I got to fucking pay attention to the Super Bowl. I'm behind on my big board. Yeah. Craig, that's a great take. I think that's the clubhouse leader. Super Bowl kind of sucks. That is interesting. Now I'm going to think about it. Now I'm going to be thinking about this all year. Someone we need a Super Bowl to save the Super Bowl. Yeah, we put in this fear. Do something. There we go. It's making fun. Something kind of related to this. Not quite the same thing, but similar. Everyone keeps bitching about this 18 game season. I can't wait. It's going to be awesome. No, come on. No. Everyone's like, get out. 18 games. It's going to be shut the fuck up. You want the 18 week to buy the 20 week season you're in. It's going to be awesome. I can't believe we're all pretending. Why is it better than what we have now? It's going to be better. Why? Because it's another week better than the Super Bowl. It might as well be adding a Super Bowl. It's just better just because it is. There's another argument. It's going to be good. It's going to be second buy. I'll be rested. Craig, that's what they're telling the NFLPA right now. Yeah. Tell us why this is better. Because. And everyone's like, well, player's safety. We can't. It's one more fucking game. It's fine. Yeah. Big deal. You ever watched the wild card round and be like, this is the line. This is too much. Like, come on. It's 18 games. It's fine. It's going to be great. Because I said so. I do think there's something to the schedule changing slightly in the playoffs and having the Super Bowl week where you have a Monday off could be cool. Adding one more game. Maybe that's the amount of buys is just that's better. Is that how the Super Bowl gets better? Is you don't you just get blacked out? You get hammer drunk. I guess people are. Well, a lot of people get fun of me because I was saying that like not everyone have worked off on President's Day, which is a fair point. But then I felt crazy. And it was it is a federal holiday. People do have public schools are off on President's Day. But I forgot like who have no depends what job you have, whether that actually happens. But schools are off on President's Day, which sometimes you have to speak in generalities, you know. To be honest, though, I mean, who are we kidding? It's not like people don't drink on Sundays. Isn't the Super Bowl like the most alcohol consumed in America? People are still having a good time, even though they're working the next day. I imagine that. But it's Sunday scaries. It's it's hard to enjoy a Sunday scaries. That's oh, should I try drinking? Yeah, but drinking that drinking on a Sunday makes you even more paranoid because you're like, damn, I'm going to be over. I did. It depends when you stop. But yeah, you got to power through that part. No, I completely agree. I Sundays just like a bad day of the week. I like a Thursday to me is just way better than a Sunday. Sunday's hell on earth. Craig, I saw somebody and I apologize for not crediting where this is. Lord's Day is a hell day, sure. I keep going deep. I actually, yeah, I agree with that. This is the reason I thought of this is so I saw this guy posited that if you look at life like every week is just trying to win a seven game series. So oh, I saw this trying to win four games. Yeah, you're just trying to win four days in a week. Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, automatic schedule loss. Exactly. Friday, Saturday or Wednesday. So now it really just comes to a two. Yeah, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Can you get a win out of one of those three games? That's yeah, yeah. Or two. I can you two out of three. Can you take one on the road? Yeah. You know, to be. Can you get a W on the road is really all it comes down to. It's really a three game series. Yeah, it's really Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. And I'm sorry for whoever said that because it's brilliant, but I don't credit you on this. But yeah, I saw that. I was like, man, I'm going to that change my life right there. Just going to win this week. I think we should do it unless you guys have any more good football related purges. Do you want to do a few like just general purge purge your soul of other general takes? I have a couple of football ones. Do you guys know anything else, Craig? Yeah. No, I was I was workshopping like Will Howard will be the best first year quarterback in the league next year, but I couldn't get there. I couldn't get there. Not even in the purge. One of my was going to be Mike McCarthy. Steelers will be exactly the same as my Tom and Steelers, but I don't even know if that's a purge. It's obvious. It's like they won't have a losing record. It's not a hot game. But that seems like obvious. I think that is likely to happen. The only other ones I want to say are I think everyone keeps talking about the substation and the 49ers, but the 49ers not getting injured because of the substation. The 49ers are getting injured because of Kyle Shanan. Right. This is like Occam's razor. It's what Dica said about John Harbaugh. It's like Kyle Shanan. Hardest practices in the league. And it's like, you think the substation is hurting the football players? I think it's the invisible radio waves that are drenching our bodies all day. I believe Kyle Shanan started this rumor. It's like, you think it's the fucking substation? He's in the fucking hot dog suit. He's like, we're trying to figure this out. Who couldn't possibly be? What possible thing? Meanwhile, it's like. Anyway, he's like, keep running. It's like, you know how you got to eat? Talk to me. You need Calis. You got to practice three days in a row. Meanwhile, let's see here. NFL PA survey. Where did the Niners trading staff rank this year? Let's see. You're dead last. What's the counter? What's the movie where? 30 Second. What is the movie where they guide? They just have to keep running in the last person. It's not dead. Oh, the long walk. It's a Stephen King book, I think, isn't it? That's like 49ers. Like walking on nubs. Toriously difficult. Yeah. The Revenant counter. What has he been to three Super Bowls in 10 years? Not bad. Well, every year you go. They keep getting hurt in the Super Bowl, though. If that's true. Well, that game sucks. I think my favorite take is DK right out the gate, talking about how Jeremiah Love should tank the combine. It's fucking amazing. Players. He made a mistake. But players should start. I think that is so good, DK. All right. He should have run all funky, like with, you know, like duck feet or like his feet out or something like that. He should have just done something real weird. All right, D.K., do you have a non football take you want to give here? I do. And I want to say this in the right way so so I people understand. I've reached a point in my life and I think human kind has reached a point in his existence that everything we now make works worse than how it used to work. Of course. I don't know if this is even a hot take. Maybe it's not. The fact there are books about it. In other words, with almost everything and this is excluding like life saving technologies and breakthroughs that are going to help people to be more healthy and all that stuff. Everything else, I'm like, I think I prefer the old way that this worked more. I don't think it's a purge. There's a book called in shitification, which is about how they play an obsolescence. It's about having worse in shitification. It's called in shitification. Literally, they're like, if you make it worse, it's more money. I just think there's too many people now, like Craig always says, there was not enough people back in the 50s. And now there's too many people we've gone over. We've gone overboard. Now everyone has to justify their whatever what they're inventing. Like now we have to have instead of pushing, you know, pulling a handle to open a door, you have to push a button that then lets the handle out and then you pull. I don't think I've been more confused about a new invention than I have with the Tesla door handle. It's unbelievable. I'm literally Craig. I'm not even not even kidding. This is probably on video because I think all Tesla's record you. I couldn't get out of a Tesla one time. I was like, I'm the last person on earth that's been in a Tesla. I don't know how to fucking get out of this thing. Is this the window button? Yeah, I don't get it. I was rolling down the window to try and get out of the door. I need to. I actually need to like do my own research. I need to like watch videos of people and like to Tesla describing why they designed it. You know, the answer is I don't get it. Tesla decided it. Elon Musk was just like the window. Why should be the door and it's he just thinks that you think. No, no, no. Anyone else decided that. Oh, I'm not talking about the window button. I don't love. I'm talking about the outside handle. Oh, right. Where you push? Well, it's aerodynamic. And so, yeah, it's like you have to push your thumb in so that it opens and then what? Hold your thumb there. Get your. Quickly, I got to grab it. It makes me know. I don't get it. At all. I would love to hear somebody describe why that makes sense, because even if you can make a flat door handle that has an indentation and you can put your hand under it and pull a door handle. He bought Twitter and named it X. He just thought it's cool because he said 11 year old child. Do you want to do you want to hear some of the list of things I made? So the reason I thought of this twofold. First off, I saw a tweet of a guy who was doing a mock draft on his refrigerator screen. There was a refrigerator. I've seen this refrigerator had a TV screen and he was doing a mock draft on it. He was probably like also watching like a rest of development on it somehow at the same time. I'm going to tell you I placed it in Airbnb for a wedding. I got a fridge to play our podcast. The fridge had a camera inside and they were like, so you can look at your fridge. What's in there without opening it? It's like that's so they can have a camera in your fridge. But sure, sure. Here's a couple. Here's a couple examples. I think we I think we figured out chairs. I think chairs are fine. We can move on. We don't need to keep working on new chairs. Are we? Yeah, there's a new lot of all kinds of new weird ass chairs. I think chairs peaked in the 1940s or 50s. Really? Yeah. Just a normal chair. There's too many bells and whistles on chairs. Get it. Camp chairs, speaking of, give me one of those metal fold out things with like the the, you know, the fabric strips. What? Those are way better than any of the contraptions you have to get into now if you're going camping. OK, I guess I'm right now I'm sitting in like an ergonomic. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not talking about sitting at my desk. That would be a little insane. I'm just saying, like, we don't need to have any more new camp chair designs. Automatic soap dispensers. I've always wondered this. Where people like going out of business because people were wasting soap is like soap waste. People couldn't stay open because people were using too much soap. Is that a problem? Touch it. I think people like hand free because you're in the bathroom. I don't want to touch it. No, they don't fucking work. No, they don't work. Of course, they don't work. I don't know. Like I can understand, I guess. But if you're touching it, then you can wash your hands. No, but someone else touched it before they wash their hands, which is horrific. That's I know. But then you wash it off the germs that you don't want to add. I don't want to add. No, I don't want to touch the soap. You're literally touching it so soap comes out. But you can use that soap. So my hands wipe their hands. You're touching fucking everything. Why the fuck would I want to touch that if I could not touch everything? I just covered not touching it. I'd rather not. You're just you're defending soap. Automatic soap dispensers are the fucking worst thing in the world. We're talking about people feel strongly about automatic. I never thought about them once in my life. Automatic fucking paper towel dispensers. All the shit drives me insane. You get none of them work. If they did work, maybe that's a different discussion. You know, the paper towel dispensers where it's like there's like a tiny strip of it poking out and you have to like grab it with your wet hands and try to you have to try to like softly pull it. And sometimes you rip it because your hands are wet. Yeah. No, don't understand those. No, dude, back in the day, Craig, I don't know if you guys even aware of this. They used to have this in like schools and stuff in the 80s and 90s. And people with older generations will remember this. It was literally just a rat like a rag. Like it was on a, you know, what like a what are those things you walk? Like ask the escalator, but like the things you exercise on treadmill. It's like a treadmill of cloth and you just pull it down. And like wash your hands with this dirty, disgusting. Oh, yeah. Yeah, still. And it just hangs down. Anyway. But ultimately, DK, I think you're right. I think back in the day, it was like a company that wanted to make t-shirts was like, well, we'll sell the most t-shirts by making the best quality t-shirts. And now that idea is completely gone. And maybe in the beginning, it's high quality. And then once it's successful, private equity buys it, strips it and then just sell the shittiest fucking thing possible and spends the money on marketing. And I do agree. I mean, there's a reason why every time they hand out t-shirts that like whenever you're at some dumb event, you're at a game, they like shoot the t-shirt can. All these things suck now. You bring that you put the t-shirt on, it shrinks immediately. T-shirt be possibly be this terrible. And yet some random shirt that my dad wore like 500 times in the 90s is still in great condition. Dude, I'm telling you, you can. Yeah, like you buy, you can go on eBay or just a value village or whatever and buy t-shirts that have been around for 30 years. And they fit better and they feel better. Let crusades. I have a let crusade for my grandmother that was made before I was born and will be there long after my grandchildren die. Yeah, yeah. That thing is going to last 150 years. You're talking about like a crock pot or something? Yeah, like a Dutch oven. Yeah. It's that that shit like kitchen aids, like that shit lasts forever. I guess this wasn't a very hot take. Maybe it's just a general take. It was a little bit old old man yells at. It was that was kind of what I was going at. The reason I'm like, dude, just give me some knobs. I want to be able to push a button. Fans, you know, just the normal fan that you have in your house. It doesn't need to have a digital display with eight different settings. I need two to three buttons and a knob that you pull up or push down. That's all I need. It's going to it's going to rotate. It's all fans do the same thing. They push air in your direction. There's a there's an old Jack Handi quote that I really love. Probably the earliest fly swatters were nothing more than some sort of striking surface attached to the end of this long stick. I just think it's like we have already figured this out. You can move on. We don't need new things that we don't need another one. Yeah, we do spend a ridiculous amount of time trying to solve problems that don't exist because you can make a lot of money on that versus problems that don't we benefit this. I don't want any more of that shit. Sure. Anyway, this episode is brought to you by Amazon. Life's full of little surprises like spilling coffee everywhere five minutes before a meeting or reaching for a diaper and realizing the bag is empty. Kind of like Draft Night. You think you know the plan, then everything changes. Look, life can be unpredictable, but every day shopping doesn't have to be with great savings on essentials. Amazon helps you cover the basics and the surprises because when life throws a curveball, it's nice knowing there's a place you can count on. Amazon save on essentials. Save the every day. Hi, Fitz, what is your non football take between a couple here? But I when he looks like this, something you better hurry. The horn's going to play. Pick one. I don't think you need a pillow when you sleep. What? This is this is horrific. No, no, no, no, let me tell you something. Hi, Fitz. Oh my God. What you guys have slept in an Airbnb with me once. Yeah, I've mounted. I've it's mounted me in my wings. Yeah. I I don't use a pillow when I sleep. I sleep. I sleep in everyone calls me a freak. I sleep under a pillow flat. Like you put you put on top of your head. I sleep on my stomach to cover up all the screams. I burrow like a doxin. I sleep on my stomach. Sometimes the pillow is just like propped up and not kind of on my head. Sometimes it's on my head. I was just like, I feel like I knew that you sleep on your stomach because you said that I'm like, that's not good for you. Yeah, well, if I'm on my side, I'll use a pillow. But if I'm not arms, what? You just lie there. What do you go like you put your arms underneath? Do I do this? No, I don't. So you think do you have any next week? So I think it's no slow down. We were losing you don't use a pillow either. No, but I'm here. I do. But I'm curious because a couple of times I haven't used the pillow to sleep. And I'm like, I don't think I need. I think big pillow has convinced me. I think it's bad for your neck. You're at an angle. Well, that's the thing is I'm like, man, my neck hurts, my shoulder hurts, all this stuff. And I'm like, maybe I don't actually need a pillow at all because if you sleep without a pillow, there's a problem. How about this? There's a goldie. There's a gray area here. How much is a thin pillow? Dude, I've tried the pillows. I have. I use very thin pillows. If you sleep on your side, you should have the pillow between your knee and then a pillow under your head and then your spine stays flat. But I think there is something to sometimes like you just lay on the fucking floor. You ever just lay on the floor in your back? It feels great at 43. If you lay on the floor on your back for a while, it feels good until you try and get up. Then you're like, I feel I've never felt worse in my life. Go back to sleep. My body hurts. Yeah, I look, I know everyone. I can't you can't help how you sleep. I know I sleep weird, but I sleep on my stomach. Can we go back to the sleep? The pillows on top of your head. Yeah. What the fuck is that? I make a little. Well, it's not like it's like propped up. It's not like I'm like suffocating myself. Hold on. Propped up on what? On your face? Yeah. I think this is the weirdest thing Craig's ever shared. You said it. The pillow on the face, though, you know, so like he's like laying. So it's like it's all I got air right here. So you see how often it's kind of like it's kind of like in your head. Are you going both ways? Yeah, I go both ways. OK, only that way. Only in the bed. Oh, only in the bed. Only for sleeping. Sure. But yeah. And then and then on my side, I will use a pillow. And then if I go on my back, I use a pillow usually. So it kind of varies. Just picture you like underneath. Yeah. Oh, yeah. My mom, dude, when I was growing up, I sleep like a psycho. Like when my mom would come in the room in the morning, like get me up for school or whatever. Like you can't you can't find me because I'm under everything. There's like blankets and comforters and pillow. I'm just like, you know, I like burrow. Every morning is like, I hope he's alive. Yeah, literally. She's like it's like the people stabbing the Trojan horse to check if anyone's in there. Like that was my mom. Oh, my God. You look like Ferris Bueller like hiding running from school. Yeah. All right. So what's your what's your take, Purge, Craig? I think I think serving bread to begin a meal is fucking insane. And they should stop doing it. But you like it. I like it a lot. Yeah, it is the most filling food in the world. And they give it to you first so they can give you a tiny meal. I think the bread should come with the main course. Then I'm happy with it. But then you you great take mix in a bite of bread. I don't want I'll just eat all the fucking bread and then I'm full and then I'm uncomfortable. I don't have any self-restraint. I don't like it. Great take. Why I don't even fucking get it. Like, I don't know why they do because because because people are angry when they get to the restaurant. They're waiting around. No, but now it's like the margins are so thin. It's like we don't order more food if you didn't give us that bread. Totally. I did give them something different, not the most the most filling food you could possibly find. Lambous bread. It's like one bite. One bite is enough to fill the belly of a large man. And then it's like they come back. You want another basket of bread? Everyone's like, yes. What are we doing? You get a little loose in recipes. That is like the whole deal when you go to a Mexican restaurant. You're like, why do I feel like hell after eating this dinner? It's like, oh, it's because I ate two giant bowls of chips. And you're 14 tortillas. No, that's insane. Oh, it's a bowl of chips. You want a second one? Well, also, like when you make dinner at home, do you eat bread before you? Are you like eating bread an hour before you eat dinner? No, you have bread with dinner. That's a good point. Think about how crazy it would be if you like went to someone's house and you like sat down at the table, not like, you know, around like couch or something, but at the dinner table and they're about to serve you. But before they're like, hey, here's two slices of bread. Yeah, here's an entire sourdough loaf. It's really nice butter that we'll just eat for an hour before I serve you your chicken. No one does that because it doesn't make sense. Whoa. Where am I? A tremendous weight has been lifted. What just happened? Yeah, I can't wait for the Giants to win the division with John Arbaugh. You think you think anybody said anything about variable? Doubt it. No, that'd be crazy. I love automatic sensing hand soap dispensers. It's the fucking best. I love sitting there like a maniac trying to get fucking shake my hand under it, trying to get it to fucking make some give me some goddamn soap. God, yeah, that was good. I do feel I feel cleansed. I feel 10 pounds lighter. We recorded this on a Friday. I'm going to just just breeze into the weekend. That beer is about to hit your hand like mole near. Yeah, my soul is way lighter now. So please email us or your fantasy football gmail dot com. Please email us your take purges and we'll read the best of the best here on the show. The cream rose to the crop here. So again, email us or your fantasy football gmail dot com. If you think you got something like the cream rose to the crop. What did I say? You said it rose to the crop. You you mixed metaphors cream rose to the top people or the cream of the crop. Whatever. This one's from Tom. Tommy, breakfast is tuna and egg salad. He said tuna egg salad sandwich pack. God, we can't comment on these. This is making a lot of take fuck. The morning breath has got to be tough on that one. I'm biting my lip right now. I know. God, he ate it at one o'clock says it's up to you if it's breakfast. Fuck, oh, that's funny. He broke fast, right? Yeah. OK. Tom's take perch. Lions are the worst cats. OK. That's pretty good. Lions give up. There's a fuck. Tom says, Lions give up trades to make cats awesome. Living packs a great ticket. They sleep 22 hours a day. Lions are watered down cats for dog people. Just go enjoy wolves. Lions hunting packs. They're constantly lions are constantly warped. I thought that meant getting worked as a typo, but warped, I guess, as a movie term or a TV term of like you have a character show up in a superhero movie and they beat the shit out of the first character to be like, oh, yeah, that's how tough this guy is. He beat up that guy. So when you hear stories about other big animals in the same ecosystems, you'll always hear, well, that they can kill lions. Hippos way deadlier than lions. Elephants can stomp lions to death. Ospreys can kick lions to shreds. Fucking giraffes can kick the head off of a lion. You don't hear stories about tigers getting their heads kicked off. Lions are not as cute as other cats. Lion kittens are not as cute as other cats. Tigers are cute. Leopards are cute. OK. Now, lion are really cute. Look up tiger cubs. They're cute by the standard. Pizza is good. Domino's is good because it's fucking pizza. It's not as good as other pizza. Like the lion cubs are really cute. I can't get I can't get lions. Can't purr and frankly, lion king and the king of the jungle thing. They don't live in fucking jungles. Let's start there. They don't even live in the jungle. We're living a lie. They live on the Serengeti. They don't live in the fucking jungle. How'd they get that fucking term? Where do they even come from? Tigers are the king of the jungle. It's it's great PR. They did a great they hired name brand and they crushed up there with got milk. Their main carry so much weight. And I do think that's why they're king of the jungles, because like they're they're a decent fighter and they just have a sick main and they have a good roar. They're golden. They look royal. They do. They are resting on their laurels a little bit. I thought that was a good perch. I think I could take a tiger problem. I mean, a lion probably, right? I mean, if anything else can kill it, why can't you? They need to think. Well, here's the thing. Eight of them. No, could you take one lion? Obviously. I've been within five feet of a lion and I was terrified. I honestly think that a lion that is like I'm sorry to admit this, but I was scared of the lion. I was in a van that had basically no doors on it. And Homeboy was sleeping real close to me. And I was uncomfortable. It's like a man in a midline scare me. Saw the size of the big old balls on that thing. And I was like, they are larger than you think. The men don't do anything. The women do. The balls are the lions. Yes. OK, one more one more perch here. This is from Errol. Errol. Errol Flynn. The subject line of Errol's email is take perch. JFK was killed by accident. All right. By whom? Fucking good. So Errol writes there's actually a book called Mortal Error. And is it his book? No, it's written by this guy in the 90s. It was actually one of the guys. It's a legit guy because they invited like eight guys to try the rifle that Harvey R. Aswald's shot from the depository. And they actually like this was the official government investigation. Twenty years later, they had like nine experts come and try to shoot in as quickly as they thought he did. This was the guy who did the best, the fastest. He expanded the scope of their investigation. Because he was actually able to load the rifle so quickly. So he was like literally given inside information. What's this guy wrote a book? And this guy is take is that this is what happened with JFK. Lee Harvey Oswald shot once and then he missed. Lee Harvey Oswald then shoots a second time and he hits JFK through the neck. And then. The car behind JFK's car has Secret Service agents. And one of the Secret Service agents stands up in the car on the seat in the back seat and tries to shoot Lee Harvey Oswald. But then the car speeds up and the guy falls back into the seat while he's pulling the trigger and he shoots JFK in there. Is that true about that the guy standing up and following? There is footage of him standing. It all gets pieced together. But the idea being what the Warren Commission did not interview any Secret Service agents. They didn't talk to them officially. Didn't think to do that. They were allowed to talk. Oh, interesting. The Secret Service was interviewed by the Warren Commission. And the thinking is the government did want to not want to admit that actually we accidentally panicked and shot the president in the head. So the shot to the neck wouldn't have killed him. It might have. But like the head would have had a chance. The big. Yeah, it would have had a chance. The head like there's a fear. Arrows take, which is the take of this book, which is it's there's more to it than I thought when I read it is that maybe they actually just accidentally. Shot. Man. Yeah. I haven't heard that. Certainly plausible. I read it and I laughed and I was like, oh, like this is a funny joke. And then I was like, OK, there is there is a school here. Also, I feel like anytime the answer to a really complicated question, which is like, yeah, it's probably just like an accident. It's usually right. So the arrow says if this if you're Errol really writes, he's like, if you're listening to this and you think that's insane, remember that what actually World War One started because Franz Ferdinand, they tried to assassinate him, fucking failed, went to a coffee shop, basically a bar lamented that they failed. And then he pulled up in the broken down. They got they got lost. They took a wrong turn. They took a long time and ended up. I mean, think of it. Crazy shit. Think about the frigging sliding doors on that. It's insane. Maybe the all time sliding doors. Yeah, because then World War Two doesn't happen if World War One doesn't happen. I mean, maybe it was all eventual going to happen. But man. And say it's a mortal error. So it reminded me because I was like, man, JFK is just pulp fiction. You shot right here in the face. This is good. I never heard that before. I've never heard this day. I didn't see that. I didn't see us going into JFK stuff today. I didn't know that. I wonder if Bill's aware of this theory. Bill's a big JFK conspiracy theorist. I'm going to have to send it to him. Yeah, it's intriguing. All right. Who knows your purchase. That was good. I feel good about that. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, everyone. I hope everyone's your everyone feels your souls are lighter after this experience, please emails, whatever you have to purge from your soul. I'm glad you guys can be cleansed, bathed in the light. And now we can continue on with draft season. Lighter for the wear. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to Chris Sims, obviously, or take. Thank you, Chris. We genuinely thank you. Yeah. And Phil, his forefather. Thank you, Cam. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Boo. Whoever did the purge. None of us have seen the movie yet. I've seen the movie. You have? Yeah. All right. I saw the first half, but I never finished it. You see the second one? No, no. OK, you bet you bailed before the I feel like that's the whole point. The purge you want to wait till the purge happens. You just watch the set up and then bail. Oh, the purge has started. Right. I don't know. It's good. It's actually really good. But oh, I really I enjoy the. Oh, oh, there's a reason they made like nine. Yeah. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren, thank you, Cass Elliott, a.k.a. Mama Cass. Of course, I was I was listening to California dreaming today, driving to the office. I was listening to that song. The you've got to make your own music. Yeah. Oh, that's that's a Cass Elliott song. Yeah. Make I'm not even going to try and sing it. You're on kind of music. Sing your own special song. Yeah, fucking great. It's also like a huge meme right now. I feel like is it. Yeah, it's like it's from the unbearable. Oh, right. Was it your best cow? Yes, the bearable weight of massive talent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it when he's like looking at him in the car? Yeah, like Pedro Pascal is like a high as a kite or whatever. It's driving. I know that part of what you're saying. Anyway, great song. That's a great shout out. I'm a huge fan of the Mamas and the Poppies. I have their their. Is that who this is? You've got something in the background, right? Yeah. There it is. She's in the Mamas and the Poppies. Yeah, she's one of the two female vocalists. Fun fact, that album behind me is signed by Michelle Phillips. The other female vocalist lives in LA. We have to blur it out on Netflix. It's blurred behind me naturally. Oh, great. The depth of field is shallow. It's where behind me. You can't really make it out. But yeah, Michelle Phillips, she lives in LA. OK, cool. Nobody will not cast Elliot. No, she died a long time ago. Right. She died in 1974. So who's who lives near you in LA? Michelle Phillips, the other member of Mamas and the Poppies. Got it. Yeah. All right. 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