Episode 5268: Pam Bondy Out As AG Todd Blanche To Take Her Place
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•Apr 2, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Episode covers Pam Bondi's departure as Attorney General and Todd Blanche's appointment as acting AG, with extensive discussion of legal warfare tactics used against Trump administration officials and the Tina Peters case in Colorado involving alleged political persecution.
Insights
- The Trump administration faces systemic resource constraints in prosecuting cases against political opponents due to lack of top legal talent willing to work in government, contrasting sharply with the coordinated legal resources available to Democratic prosecutors
- Legal warfare has become the primary weapon of the political left, with coordinated law firms, radical law schools, and partisan judges creating an asymmetric advantage that requires strategic counter-measures beyond traditional legal defense
- Tina Peters' case exemplifies how state-level prosecutions are weaponized for political purposes, with judges explicitly sentencing based on political viewpoints rather than criminal conduct, creating precedent for federal civil rights intervention
- The deep bench of potential replacements for AG positions suggests continuity in Trump's legal strategy, but confirmation battles and talent recruitment remain critical bottlenecks for executing accountability agenda
- The 2020 election fraud investigation represents the highest priority for the new DOJ leadership, with special grand juries and subpoenas already in motion in Florida and other jurisdictions
Trends
Weaponization of state-level prosecutions as political tool against election integrity advocates and Trump administration officialsCoordinated use of pro bono legal resources by major law firms to support Democratic causes and obstruct Republican governanceJudicial activism at state and federal levels systematically blocking Trump administration policies through injunctions and reversalsEmergence of political persecution cases (Tina Peters, Michael Indel, Maricopa County officials) as rallying points for election integrity movementStrategic importance of securing top legal talent for government positions as prerequisite for executing populist nationalist agendaUse of jury nullification tactics and partisan jury selection to undermine prosecutions of Democratic officials and alliesEscalation of legal warfare planning by Democratic operatives in anticipation of potential 2028 power shiftsState-level clemency and commutation as potential remedies for politically motivated prosecutionsFederal civil rights investigations as counter-measure against state-level judicial overreachImportance of Senate Judiciary Committee coordination in confirming AG and DOJ leadership with shared strategic vision
Topics
Attorney General Succession and DOJ LeadershipPolitical Persecution and First Amendment ViolationsTina Peters Colorado Case and Judicial Overreach2020 Election Fraud Investigation and AccountabilityLegal Warfare and Lawfare TacticsDOJ Resource Constraints and Talent RecruitmentJudicial Sabotage of Trump Administration PoliciesState-Level Prosecutions as Political WeaponsConfirmation Battles for Cabinet PositionsCivil Rights Investigations of JudgesClemency and Commutation StrategiesLaw Firm Coordination in Political CasesJury Nullification and Jury SelectionArticle III Project and Judicial AccountabilityFederal-State Coordination on Election Integrity
Companies
Covington & Burling
Major law firm cited as example of coordinated Democratic legal strategy and pro bono work against Trump administration
MyPillow
Sponsor and company whose CEO Mike Lindell has been targeted in legal cases related to election integrity advocacy
Birch Gold Group
Precious metals investment firm sponsoring episode with messaging about dollar devaluation and financial diversification
Patriot Mobile
Wireless carrier sponsor positioning itself as activist company supporting conservative causes and Christian values
Chapter
Medicare advisory service sponsor helping seniors navigate insurance plans and reduce healthcare costs
All Family Pharmacy
Independent pharmacy sponsor offering direct-to-consumer medications and alternative healthcare access
People
Pam Bondi
Departing AG credited with major Supreme Court victories for Trump administration despite resource constraints and ju...
Todd Blanche
Deputy AG elevated to acting AG position, previously Trump's personal attorney, positioned to continue accountability...
Mike Davis
Key advisor discussing DOJ strategy, judicial accountability, and potential AG candidates with deep bench analysis
Tina Peters
Serving 9-year sentence for election integrity advocacy; case remanded for resentencing due to First Amendment violat...
Apollo Pappas
Close advisor to Tina Peters discussing appellate court ruling and strategy for securing clemency or commutation
Steve Bannon
Episode host conducting interviews and analysis on DOJ leadership changes and political persecution cases
John Eastman
Scheduled guest for discussion of legal issues related to 2020 election and Trump administration legal strategy
Jenna Griswold
Democratic official accused of blocking clemency for Tina Peters and using case for political fundraising
Jared Polis
Governor positioned to grant clemency to Tina Peters but facing pressure from Democratic officials and presidential a...
Judge Matthew Barrett
Judge who sentenced Tina Peters to 9 years; appellate court found he violated her First Amendment rights through sent...
Harmeet Dhillon
Called upon to open federal civil rights investigation into Judge Matthew Barrett for political persecution of Tina P...
Lee Zeldin
Mentioned as potential AG candidate and subject of investigation related to DOJ accountability efforts
Eric Schmidt
Mentioned as potential AG candidate with reputation as bulldog on conservative issues
Mike Lee
Mentioned as potential AG candidate with strong conservative credentials
Ron DeSantis
Mentioned as potential AG candidate with proven record as bold and fearless executive
Matt Gaetz
Discussed as potential AG candidate but unlikely due to lucrative private practice in San Diego
Jack Smith
Former prosecutor of Trump cases; his two-year investigation timeline used as benchmark for DOJ accountability efforts
Norm Eisen
High-profile Democratic attorney representing interests in Georgia election cases against Trump administration
Abby Lowell
Expensive Democratic attorney arguing Georgia cases; cited as example of coordinated Democratic legal resources
Mike Lindell
Discussed as target of legal persecution similar to Tina Peters; company sponsor of War Room podcast
Quotes
"Pam Bondi is bold. She's fearless and just over a year as the attorney general of the United States. She brought monumental reforms to the justice department."
Mike Davis
"No attorney general has done more for article two the presidency and the Constitution to what Pam Bondi did in one year as the attorney general."
Mike Davis
"This is a test for you to see if you're a statesman to see if you're willing to correct a grave injustice in your state or if you're going to be Jenna Griswold's bitch."
Steve Bannon
"Judge Matthew Barrett is a garbage human being who should resign and Harmeet Dhillon should open a criminal investigation and put his ass in prison because he punished Tina Peters for her First Amendment protected views."
Mike Davis
"The real issue is that Jenna Griswold, who is running for AG, wants to look tough. They're all using this to dance on her name because they want to look like serious candidates."
Apollo Pappas
Full Transcript
that within days may have even done it last summer, maybe have done it within days of this conflict, then it became regime change and now it becomes open the Strait of Hormuz. How is our problem the Strait of Hormuz? I mean, we don't even get much oil through the Strait of Hormuz to these shores. It's a Europe problem. It's an Asia problem. It's not our problem. It's an India problem. I think he was so smart to say, it's your ball, NATO, China, your ball, you open the Strait. We've done our job, but then he just went back to, let's bomb them into submission, into the Stone Age, which the oil traders said, that is not good because these people won't relent, even if they're in the Stone Age. They'll still use whatever capacity they have to kill Americans and to blow up infrastructure to make oil prices go higher because it hurts Trump and hurts Americans. Do you think they're also saying, do you think they're also saying, we've looked at the Royal Navy, we look at what France has as naval assets. We've looked at the Italians. We saw the, as I was hammering every day last summer, what a poor job they did in assisting the American strike forces, carrier strike groups down the Red Sea against the Houtis, or really the Americans took it all on. I think the French sent a Corvette, the British sent a destroyer, France sent a frigate, but no real support. Do you think the world's oil markets are sitting there going, when President Trump says that, they're going, we're not buying that. They can't, you're the United States Navy. You're the heir to the Royal Navy. You're the most powerful naval force. You keep free navigation. All that was at Straits of Malacca, the South China Sea, Hormuz, the Red Sea, the Suez Canal. It's the United States Navy that keeps it open. And if you're telling me you're pulling out, then I don't think this thing's getting resolved. I don't care how badly you bomb the Iranians. They still got enough of these kind of Houti type guys on the coast down there. And most of those are not Persian. I think a lot of them are just kind of these Bedouins that are down there, these Burbers. I think they're Bedouins down there with these rockets that can try to, they're essentially pirates that are doing the pirate craft right now. Do you think that the world's oil market doesn't, when President Trump says it's your problem, they get nervous, they don't want to see, they get Cure Starmer hosting a 40 nation. Today everybody talk about this, they say, hey, I have Trump in the United States Navy, or I've got Cure Starmer in 40, Balkan company country, sir. Here's what I think, Steve. I think, yes, I think the oil market is waiting to see actually what happens. Boots in the sand or not, US. Here's what I believe, from the bottom of my heart, I believe if we said our job is done here, we obliterate their nuclear capacity, we're packing up, we're going home. Again, we don't get a lot of oil through that straight to the US shores. It's your job, you know who is at risk? Europe has risk, China has risk. They'll get it open because you know who these, the Iranian customers are and the Saudi customers are? Both sides of the straight, the Chinese and Europe. They'll get the thing open. Right now this thing's staying closed to give the middle finger to Donald Trump and the American people. We walk away, they will absolutely get that thing done either militarily or through negotiation. I believe that from the bottom of my heart. And until you hear that, until we get out, your oil market's not going to relent. When Boling says negotiations, he means they'll pay the pirates to $2 million per ship or whatever the pirates, whatever those pirates charge. Eric, social media, we're going to bounce down to our show, great, great report. Hopefully we'll see you tomorrow. Where do people go? Yeah, at Eric Boling all the time, Steve, but you know what, these discussions we're having are crucial, we have people in the chat saying, like it or not, we've been right on a lot of stuff. Right here, Real America's voice four to five also in the mornings in the war on occasion. Steve, good having you on brother, have a great show. Thank you, thank you for doing the transition, I appreciate it. Okay, we're going to get back into the war in geopolitics in the second hour, but there's a lot we got to talk about in this first hour. And I've got Mike Davis also, Tina Peters team. We've got a brief cold open for the vice-church. Let's do that. And the vice-church will join us momentarily. Joining us was Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid Reid sector and the deputy AG Todd Blanche will now serve as the acting AG. Well, I mean, let's not forget Blanche the other day at CPAC said, why wouldn't you want ice at polling locations? So that is something that Donald Trump wants. So if you pay attention to the way that he's talking, it feels a little different than it has in the past. And much more than I with Donald Trump. I mean, this whole list of people, these are lawyers, these are legal folks. These are some of them with differing levels of respect from the legal community. So at least it knows that better than I. But at the end of the day, it almost doesn't matter. And this goes across the cabinet. At the end of the day, Donald Trump and maybe depending on what the issue is, someone like the deputy White House Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, they are calling the shots, right? Same thing with DHS. When the when he when he got rid of Kristi Noam out of that job, it was because she wasn't doing what he wanted to. But the kinds of things that he is asking these folks to do are sometimes according to judges, not me, illegal and more importantly, are operating in a world, a political world that just that doesn't actually exist in the one that we live in. And he doesn't believe in separation of power. So you can be the figurehead of these organizations. But at the end of the day, Donald Trump and some folks at the White House are going to be the ones that are going to be running those organizations across the administration. And frankly, if Donald Trump had his way across the government, well, Bondi did everything she could during her time as the nation's top law enforcement officer to do Donald Trump's bidding. What tip the scale according to MSNOW's reporting is that Trump could quote frustrated with Bondi's inability to successfully prosecute several individuals whom he considers political enemies and has argued should face criminal charges. It is not that Bondi did not try to deliver Trump's revenge when Trump directed her to prosecute his perceived enemies in a public truth social post back in September. She took her marching orders. But here's what happened to the most high profile cases. There was the failed attempt to prosecute former FBI director James Comey when the case was thrown out by a judge. There were three failed attempts to indict or prosecute New York Attorney General Atisha James and a grand jury rejected an attempt to charge six sitting Democratic lawmakers. Three sources familiar with the matter tell MSNOW that EPA administrator former Republican Congressman Lee Zeldin is on a short list. But it's not clear that any other person in that post can and will have more success with Bondi's failures. The second high profile firing of a Trump cabinet official in less than a month. This is the final screen of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going to make the evil on this people. He's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line? Maga media. I wish in my soul I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose. If that answer is to save my country this country will be saved. Here's your host Stephen K. Bowne. It is holy Thursday to April in the year of our Lord 2026. In this hour we're going to have John Eastman is going to join us a little later about yesterday and many other things on the legal side. Tina Peters team including Apollo Pappas will join us about the Tina Peters situation. I want to start with the vice Roy. Mike you have been at the forefront of what I would call talking about and assisting on this the greatest crime of the century the stealing of the 2020 election. Everything the deep state did. There is movement. We know we have a top flight US attorney down in South Florida that's working on this. There have been other efforts as you've chronicled here in the war room with Tish James with with Comey. There has been a huge lack of just resources and horsepower at both main justice and with the US attorneys and the US attorneys are kind of your light infantry or light cavalry compared to main justice to bring in the heavy guns. You've only got to still think 14 US attorneys. You still got the blue slip situation. What why do you think it was because Pam Bonnie the system is just moving too slow or the systems moving as the system moves. I mean why change out and given Pam Bondi's obviously Pam's got some shortcomings but you're in the middle of it right now and to change to change folks with confirmation hearings etc. Do you think it do you think it slows it down or you think this is actually a pretty good move by the president. I want to say this. First of all I am one of Pam Bondi's biggest fans. I always have been and I always will be Pam Bondi is bold. She's fearless and just over a year as the attorney general of the United States. She brought monumental reforms to the justice department. She hired people. She closed down politists. She hired people. She fired people. She closed down politicized investigations and she opened investigations to hold people accountable and there are a lot of things the public does not know right now about what Pam Bondi has done and we're going to see the fruits of that bear out over the next several years. And so I think when people look back at Pam Bondi's 10 year they're going to see that she got a lot done. A lot more than all the Republican AG predecessors of her combined. She had bigger bowls than all of them combined and so I say hats off to Pam for doing a phenomenal job. She had an impossible job and she got a lot done. Now we have acting attorney general Todd Blanche who was Pam's deputy. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. One second. Before we talk about Todd fleeting up and other possibilities because I think there's a pretty deep bench out there. You said impossible job. I just want to make sure the audience understands this because obviously Pan's got some shortcomings but she's got a heart of a lion and she went in there. Part of the shortcomings. I just want people to understand this. She was in court or she had main justice in court every day. We've had what 35 or 40 times they've had to go into court with these federal judges to go talk about President Trump's main policies and fight a third of these up to the Supreme Court. The man hours involved in that particularly when you're understaffed. And I don't think I think we've done particularly the war. I'm not a good enough job of telling people that the if you think the Republicans hate MAGA because of mass deportations and they and they and they hate MAGA because of America first foreign policy and they hate MAGA because MAGA wants you know President Trump's populist nationalist economic policies of tariffs to bring jobs back. One of the things they really hate is that there is a an actual effort to make sure that the best talent in the on the on the right and in the Republican Party does not go as most people do to take a tour at justice to get that resume box checked off and then to go into greater things at a law firm at a prestigious law firm where you're on the fast track to make partner. I mean Pan Bondi for all her shortcomings that there was an open conspiracy against President Trump in the Trump administration to make sure she didn't have access and present therefore President Trump doesn't have access to the top flight legal talent that happens to be out there on the right. And that when you have to then go and defend because you know Mark Elias. He just saw it last Friday in Georgia. You had to have people from Maine just to take their time and go down and argue the evidentiary hearing for five hours but they had to prepare for that. That's happening every day. And that just and when you don't have that many resources when you're that understaffed when they've blue slipped these US attorneys you only got I think 13 or 14 of them right or the ones you get through you know have been approved by left wing Democrats. You're going to have it and I'm not trying to make excuses. I'm just saying the reality and I don't think we've done a good enough job of telling people what the reality is on the siege against President Trump and his administration. Mike Davis. Yeah. Let me just remind people we President Trump had to go through all of the law fair before the election three years of trying to roam in prison for life four times bankrupt him for not fraud that Gene Carroll nut job tried to take all of his money. I mean it's just throwing him off the ballot taking off his head. That was just the beginning. Remember when President Trump got back into office we saw the unrelenting judicial sabotage by these Democrat attorneys these Democrat plaintiffs and these Democrat judges around the country trying to sabotage the will of the American people. And it was attorney general Pam Bonte who broke through that sabotage and actually beat it. She went to the Supreme Court like 30 times and she won like 95 percent of the time. No attorney general has done more for article two the presidency and the Constitution to what Pam Bonte did in one year as the attorney general. And that's not hyperbole. Mike Hanger for a second. We're drill down on this more because there's a continuity here of using law fair which they use the most and they've perfected it. Now let's be blunt. Number one we have not perfected it. We don't do it and our defense is against it a pretty rudimentary. They've done this the entire time Trump came on the scene. And hey folks take your number two principle out down out and write this down. You think you wait till they take the House of Representatives. They take the House. They're already planning and plotting what they're going to do. They're already got these law firms like Covington Burley and others plotting short break. The dollar's convertibility into gold ended in 1971. Gold was fixed at $35 an ounce. Well fast forward to the day and the U. S. dollar has lost over 85 percent of its purchasing power. Gold on the other hand is increased in value by over 12000 percent. That's why central banks are buying gold at record levels. That's why major firms like Vanguard and Black right hold significant positions in gold. And that's why I encourage you to consider diversifying your savings with physical gold from Birch Gold Group. But it starts with education. Birch Gold just announced their learn and earn precious metals event. 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If there's anything to do with ice or anything to do with the Trump administration justice to to void it regardless what the facts that we saw this in Dallas in the murder case of the of the of the the gang member. I think you just saw it partially in New York City with the with the police officer that was gunned down and they took away the capital murder charge. You see you see you see this jury nullification. That's just one aspect. Look we're going to have Apollo Papas on here a second mic's on jump in but talking about Tina Peters. That's just at the state level. But they had Norm Eisen and Abby Low Abby Low is one of the most expensive lawyers in this country folks. He's the big ticket guy. He's down arguing Georgia for five hours in a courtroom. And guess what as as well as our justice department did which had to take the time to go down and argue that they landed some blows last week on the evidentiary hearing to get the balance back. Radical law schools. Radical law professors. The Ivyley schools that the feeding system for the first place. These law firms. Why do you think Boris had the strategy to go after the big law firms initially and try to break them because these law firms coming in Berling's a perfect example. Right. You had these law firms that had to be broken because they were doing pro bono work and basically putting their best partners on it to do various things on immigration and other things to break our system. This is where I am not making excuses for Pam Bondi and her performance. You have to judge that but you have to contextualize what Pam Bondi was up against. And if there's any area any area where they have a distinct advantage and a huge advantage is this cold law fair legal and here's why because the Republicans in the traditional Republicans understand corporate America's woke and progressive and just because we've taken some training programs that means we don't don't mean we haven't changed it. We haven't changed it at all or barely change it is their mentality. They won't get hired by these big corporations for the big ticket legal work. And so therefore they say no you can't go work for Pam Bondi. You can't go work for Todd Blanche. You can't go to work for the Justice Department. You can't be a U.S. attorney. At that level it's all about talent and then it's about critical mass of talent. And look what Pam's had to put up with of all these cases every day. Remember the first and when we were flooding the zone every day we have we'd have Mike Davis and others on here to talk about hey they're going to court today. They're going to court here. They're doing this to doing that. That all takes resources. Eventually at Fort Apache you just run out of horsepower. Mike Davis and I think that's the reality and people should as a continuum this is a continuum. It's a process. They started with Trump in the MAGA movement because they understood this was a disruptive populist nationalist movement that would break what the system is in the globalist system and they came after Trump to eliminate him and to do everything illegal in the first term when that didn't work. That's when they stole the election. They stole the election to send him away when he came back because they were never expecting. Now you have a whole nother set of fights and Jamie Raskin these people are plotting today with these big law firms for when they take the House and if somehow they take the Senate and somehow they take the White House in 2028 and I gave a speech six months ago and I think it was Mark Meadows group and I said folks unless you hunker down unless you hunker down and start when and keep winning elections that we haven't shown that we can win yet without President Trump on the ballot that everybody in this room that is dedicated to this cause irrespective of what you've done you're going to go to prison because this is how they play smash mouth and I don't I think people they look well Pan Bonnie's thing and let's just put another person in we have a systemic problem. Now thank God Mike as you know we have a pretty good bench I think of people step in here but that's just at the top level we need grund dunes we need the hoplites we need the firepower of a mass of a mass insertion of talent into both main justice and then at the U.S. Attorney offices. Mike Davis your thoughts. Yeah I mean I look as we talked about I think Pam did a phenomenal job she did a thankless job she was able to plow through a lot of the judicial sabotage including monumental wins at the Supreme Court of the United States for the presidency for Article 2 for the Constitution for President Trump she she won more times at the Supreme Court on the on the biggest cases than any Attorney General before her and that's going to be her legacy. She also fired a lot of bad people within the Justice Department she hired good people she closed politicized investigations she opens good ones remember it took two years for Jack Smith to indict I think people forget that and that was with all the resources that Jack Smith had where every good lawyer at every good law firm in every good a USA around the country was beating down Jack Smith's door to go prosecute President Trump and his allies we have a different dynamic as we've talked about where we do not have the bench that the left does even the Republican attorneys who you would think would want to help don't want to do this because they don't want their careers destroyed by the left but regardless we're charging ahead and acting Attorney General Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche is taking the baton from Pam Bondi he is going to charge forward we have good US attorneys like my friend Jason Redding Kenyone's down in the Southern District of Florida you saw the special grand jury opened up and Fort Pearson January I think you're going to see some movements down there you're seeing news reports about subpoenas going out hundreds of them you hear news reports about how Britain could be a target of this investigation so I would tune in down there we we we are going to carry forward with accountability and we we have no shortage I said this to you before see if there's no shortage of good people who could step up right now as Attorney General I have a list of 10 I mean we have Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche who's at the top of the list other Justice Department officials are people like Kormit Dillon the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Judge Janine Perot the DC US Attorney I don't think John Sauer wants the job the Solicitor General he's doing a phenomenal job as the Solicitor General but then there are people throughout the administration you're hearing about EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin FTC Chairman Andrew Ferguson would be phenomenal my friends OMB General Counsel Mark Payoletta he's a warrior a friend of mine Deputy Secretary of State Chris Landau was one of the few attorneys out there with me when it was it was pretty lonely defending President Trump after the Moral Lago raid it was people like Chris Landau and me defending President Trump every day on your show on Fox News you have great senators like Eric Schmidt like Mike Lee a dark horse so I think would be great as the Attorney General someone like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis that guy has proven for many many years that he's bold and fearless so there's 10 names right there who could be the Attorney General the next Attorney General of the United States and so we have a deep that should we're gonna we're gonna charge forward you've got you've got some great names and people know I had a big problem with DeSantis running against the President but I think he's done a good job as governor he's a he's a bulldog on AI I think he'd be a very interesting name to put it I think Lee Zeldin Todd Blanchard thinks doing a terrific job just fleeting him up if you have to whatever you can get confirmed but you got some great names on there pay a lot of I mean this Judge Jeanine and if you couldn't get Judge Jeanine in as as as Attorney General bring her in as something else you got her meat you've got many people I love the dag I love that I love the I love the Eric Schmidt I think he's a bulldog I think you need some bull I think you need people that got thick armor and can take some incoming because if you're gonna crash down I also want to throw it another name the guy I never thought they should back off in the first place Matt Gates we would have gotten Matt Gates confirmed there's no doubt that Matt Gates would be confirmed I think Matt he's that's making so much money now it that's making so much money in San Diego there's no chance in hell you're gonna get him to go back to DC and take that job so that's that's the reason the hang on that's the reason the vice-vice is not top of my list you and Gates have gone on to private practice no I want to no but I Gates would be perfect I think you'd be great here's my point that's 10 or 11 we put together right before the show we've got some firepower I think that the Judiciary Committee in the Senate I don't know this is your specialty you're the confirmation guy I think the ought to huddle over with the president and president ought to walk through a battle plan saying hey look here's what we need to see because we're dealing with the deepest scandal in American history the stealing of the 2020 election they don't have Abby Lowell and Norm Eisen paying those kind of tickets those guys those bills they're sending them if they're not scared to death about the ballot situation in Georgia you know this Mike we've got the greatest scandal in American history dealing with President Trump we've got to get to the bottom of this and we got to get to the bottom of it now and I think it needs to be more of a team effort I think Judiciary Senate Judiciary has got to be brought in we got to figure out if it's going to be somebody outside the system how we get confirmation done quickly your thoughts about that yeah we did we we have a deep bench and we need to move forward to get it so Jack Smith two years to bring his indictments I I have a strong feeling we're going to start seeing indictments and indictments in the in the next several weeks you know we could see indictments by June is what I suspect and I would say to the law fair Democrats buckle up that you the the the the fact that there is a shakeup of the Justice Department does not take you off the radar you're you're certainly on the radar and probably more so now than ever because people are very focused on this so uh uh John Brennan's days as a free man could be numbered yeah Mike just hang on one second I know you got a bounce but I just need some thoughts of that you laid out this morning that kind of went viral 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Ferguson it just got some incredible names here uh Mike Lee Tina Peters walk you've been very involved this year in Colorado you're part of the Colorado bar or that they may be coming after you given some of your comments just walk us through this is not purely legal it also is political where the political world meets the legal tell us just tell us what happened today and your interpretation what's going on here Mike Davis what these Democrat politicians did and are continuing to do to Tina Peters is 1000 percent political persecution and the Colorado court of appeals all Democrat appointees made that clear today in one of their rulings uh Tina Peters was sentenced to prison a 69 year old woman a former mason county Colorado election official was sentenced to nine years in prison and this mason county district judge Matthew Barrett who is a like I said a garbage human being and let me repeat that for the Colorado bar a garbage human being Judge Matthew Barrett put her in prison for nine years and he stayed at the sentencing hearing when he sentenced her the reason he was doing it because is because he didn't like her views on the election he didn't like the fact that she thought the election was stolen guess what that violate that violates the first amendment as the Democrat appointed Colorado court of appeals just ruled today when they reversed this judge Matthew Barrett this barbage human being this Republican name and name only garbage judge who should resign and Harmeet delinch the head of the civil rights division should open a criminal investigation and put his ass in prison because he punished Tina Peters and put her in prison for nine years a 69 year old woman because he didn't like her first amendment protected views that is that is absolute political persecution by this judge he's a complete garbage human being and he must be held accountable okay hang on for us and that lawyers the appellate court didn't do anything about I believe there are seven felonies right or aspects of seven fellows they didn't reverse that they sent it back to the state district judge this guy back in Mesa county to they remanded it to him to resentence her what what is that what does that mean because for non-lawyers it sounds very confusing yeah it means they they affirmed the conviction which they should not have done but I didn't expect them to reverse the conviction because these are still partisan Democrat judges on the Colorado court of appeals but this is such an egregious constitutional violation of Tina Peters constitutional rights are first and 14th amendment rights because this Mesa county judge said again he's that he's punishing her because of her viewpoints because Tina Peters thinks that the election was stolen because it was stolen everyone knows it was stolen and the fact that she said that she this this judge put her in prison for nine years he he made it very clear at sentencing he was going to punish her more severely because of her viewpoints because of her first amendments protect its viewpoints I mean it is outrageous that he did this this is why at the article three project we've been calling on governor Jared Paulus to commute her sentence as we talked about this morning Steve she would I think governor Paulus was very close to commuting Tina Peters's sentence and then these left-wing wack job Democrats in Colorado like the fat egg Jenna Griswold the Colorado Secretary of State raised hell alone with Phil Weiser the pussy attorney general in Colorado another Democrat hack and so the governor Paulus wouldn't commute the sentence on his own so I think these judges these Democrat appointed judges are helping bring much needed justice to Tina Peters's case by reversing this judge Matthew Barrett's and giving him a chance to fix this I doubt he will because he's such an idiot he's one of the dumbest judges in Colorado and so he'll probably screw this up again and that's when I think the governor will have to step in and commute Tina Peters's sentence you're going to put someone in first of all she didn't commit any crime but even if you think that she committed a crime she's being sentenced to prison longer than many very serious violent felons in Colorado and this this dumb ass judge the dumbest judge in Colorado was dumb enough to say he did it because he didn't like her views on the election I mean again I'm calling on Harmeet Dillon to open up a federal civil rights probe a criminal probe on Mesa County Colorado district judge Matthew Barrett's for political persecution of Tina Peters he needs to go to prison. The appellate court is clearly because when we first talked about this on the show the thing was right after Christmas right when Christmas was on it was leaked that Paulus was thinking of either clemency or something with it because he's thinking of running for president but he also sees they got other comparisons I think he put one out of some woman that got like probation he got lit up and remember he's in the firmament of their stars right he's a guy that was very instrumental in turning Colorado from a red state to a purple state now to a blue let's face it a blue state he they lit him up like nobody's business they lit him up and so he's kind of hanging back obviously he knows this is wrong he's kind of admitted that but what confidence we have this guy is demented this judge what he said in the courtroom about Tina how he had her dragged away not even let some time go to get her affairs in order what you'd like they dragged her away like she was a murderer in this sentence and they put her in this this horrible maximum security prison if he let's assume that he's not smart enough to listen to the appellate court kind of reading the riot act let's assume he doesn't do anything what are other options is it back to polis and now polis is jammed up because he wants to run for president he realized he's got a problem here with the rest of the nation sitting there going had you put a gold star mother had you let this judge put her in prison at 70 years old for nine years sir yeah I would say this to governor polis this is a test for you to see if you're a statesman to see if you're willing to correct a grave injustice in your state or if you're going to be jenna rizwald's bitch I mean that's what it comes down to are you going to let jenna griswald drag you around with a dog collar are you going to be the governor and stand up and do the right thing here and that what does math again I am very serious about this I think harm meat dylan should open up a criminal probe and send in the FBI an arrest this of mason county district court judge matthew barrett he clearly persecuted he clearly violated tina peters his constitutional rights and he did it blatantly he did it openly and it's it's it's complete there these democrats like jenna griswald and phil wiser and this republican and name only judge matthew barrett they are trying to kill tina peters it's very clear they want her to suffer and die in prison because she had the courage to speak out about a stolen election and so they made up crimes and they punished her as harshly as they possibly could they can go to hell all of that but in the meantime I want harm meat dylan to to put this matthew barrett in prison mike davis where do people go for article three and where they go for your social media what comes in hot every now and again yeah article three projects dot org article number three project dot org donate follow us on social media the action item again for take action is for colorado resonance to contact governor jared paulis tell him to take off jenna griswald's ball gag and commutes the sentence of tina peters she has suffered enough get her out of prison and get her out of prison mike if we don't have you back on uh big over the next couple days have a great Easter thank you so much for spending happy Easter to you into the world thank thank you steve thank you sir let's play i want to play the clip for a bring an Apollo do i can i play the let's play the tina peters clip and i'll bring a paul pappas well tomorrow we should know the outcome on the recent hearing about clemency for former mesa county clerk and recorder tina peters and the announcement was made today in an email sent out by the colorado court of appeals questions on clemency for peters was suggested by governor polis in a social media post back on march 3rd and calls for her release by president trump a peters is currently serving a nine-year sentence at a detention facility in pueblo the announcement is supposed to happen tomorrow morning at nine polo well we had that they remanded it back to the district court you've heard mike mike can analysis this morning and this afternoon about this um he's very focused on this and quite angry with this a judge but we are where we are your assessment you host her show you're one of her closest advisors uh tell us what you guys are thinking right now well honestly i agree with a lot of what mike said this is still a grave injustice the remanding back to the trial court is at once a great victory for tina in the sense that it recognized how grave an issue her sentencing was by judge barrett specifically stating that he was sentencing her because of her speech and because she would continue to speak and that was a greater danger to the public than violent offenders those are his actual words now the court did point that out and was very specific they had no choice but to remand it back and overturn the sentencing so on the free speech issue this is it's very good for tina it's a good precedent for all coloradans um it's an issue because they essentially affirmed the prosecution itself and that's where the biggest gap is right now so we're hoping that she can be released quickly um but the prosecution itself is using this right now jenna griswald d.a. dan rubenstein and uh you know the these other democrat ridiculous demons and they're saying basically that it's a victory for the prosecution and they're using it to say everything was handled right and it was a minor issue it was not a minor issue it was foundational fundamental first amendment violations that never should happen and it's uh it's a terrible look for the state of colorado and i i think jared polis needs to take this opportunity since he already himself made the comparison to the probationary sentence from his friend sonia he should take this opportunity right now let tina peter's out commuter sentence so she doesn't have to go back to that demon's courtroom and her attorneys have to go through another circus just to get her to be heard fairly uh on what should be a minor issue for a first time nonviolent offender like tina in a trial that was at best a show trial and malicious prosecution and i do mean at best steve um hold you're going to stick with me because i want to get when you come back i want to talk about what they did affirm why that's egregious and why jenna griswald and remember jenna griswald wiser they're all trying to get higher office so they're using tina peter's with the rabbit left in colorado in nationwide because they raise money off her name all the time why is that because tina peter's like michael indel and so many people in georgia so many people in maricopa county these great warriors that fought to show that the 2020 election was stolen they have to be they have to be jailed they have to be bankrupted they have to be othered this is the entire this is this entire thing because they understand 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have any timing of when this judge has to rule because the appellate court a little bit read him the right act and why he took her political views and her first amendment her freedoms on the first amendment and included that specifically in his uh in his sentence so they remanded him he's got to re-sentence her the what-your-thoughts about the process and how can the war room posse assist you guys well let me speak about the first of all the court said that his rule his uh sentencing was based on improper consideration of her right to free speech it punished her based on that speech went beyond relevant considerations for the charges uh and they were very scathing about that part there's a big miss here though in addition to the fact that he did so clearly violated her constitutional rights uh there was the sentencing of consecutive sentences in additional six month uh and the the probation afterwards or the parole all of these things are completely egregious but the thing that is missed in here most importantly with regards to what they affirmed being the convictions in the trial court is they said judge barrett violated her free speech but that didn't include during her trial tina peters was never allowed to mounted defense she was barred during the trial and the jury was prevented from hearing any testimony regarding the supremacy clause her ability to do her duty and backup records so many things that were critical to her being able to speak to her defense in the first place were never allowed into the trial and tina was not allowed to speak about them so there's a huge disconnect when they say that judge barrett violated her free speech that is a victory and the fact that they'll set it back to that man is egregious in and of itself but it doesn't fix the problem the real issue is that jenna griswald uh who is running for ag of course wants to look tough jared polis doesn't want to get chewed apart chewed apart because he wants to be president as you said they're all using this to dance on her name because they want to look like serious candidates and they were all part of griswald the prosecutor Shapiro d.a. dan rubenstein the officials in mesa county and judge barrett they should be investigated because it was a malicious prosecution and they were essentially part of a rico operation running election fraud and running off with the money and they needed to take down tina peters and that's exactly what her prosecution was it was a show trial meant to cover their asses and make her a martyr make her a symbol because she had the goods showing what they were doing to rip off the american people so her free speech has been vindicated on one hand but it's far from enough she has a very long fight ahead of her even now uh with several of those issues which look like they're going to go to scotis and the democrats here certainly don't want to let it go because they know that their house of cards falls as soon as tina comes out on top hang on 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