Rhode Island’s Epic Arrival, In The City Intel & RHOBH Running On Fumes

There's no one like you and there never will be. From the producer of Bohemian Rhapsody, there are many legends, but there is only one. Michael in IMAX and Cinema's Wednesday, April 22. Hey everyone, welcome back to the Mentioned It All podcast, and we've made it through another week. Another week, it's been busy. The Bravo schedule right now is just, it's kind of nuts. Is it not? I was going through my list, my notes, my things to talk about. I'm like, there's six shows on here, and I'm not even watching Top Chef. I'm not even watching Below Deck Down Under. I'm not fully caught up. I mean, it feels like we're being waterboarded by content right now. And I, you know, I like to eat the food and say thank you, but it's making me a little nervous, because I don't know if you guys remember. The last couple of years, it feels like we have had, sometimes, especially in the summers, when things have been a little bit light on the Bravo content calendar. So we are rolling through this time of, you know, six, seven, eight shows on a week, and we are enjoying it, and we are eating it all up. Like the slot pigs that we are, but I'm hoping, I'm hoping that the boom times aren't followed by the un-boom times, because I would like to have good stuff to talk about all year round. And it feels like we should be able to accomplish that. But before we get into it, I just want to give a shout out to our YouTube channel, youtube.com, slash app Bravo by Betches. You can watch all our episodes over there earlier this week. We had on the one and only Monet Exchange. I loved talking to Monet. I, you know, I don't always get to chit chat with the Drag Race girls, the Traders girls. Monet has done so much, just a really fun conversation. We talked about Porsche and the Real Housewives of Atlanta. We talked about, of course, Traders, Drag Race, so much different stuff, a really fun time, even if you're not like a Drag Race pro. I haven't watched Drag Race in years. It, that was a time it ended for me. Thank you. But Monet is just like an icon, so much fun to talk to. And next Tuesday, we have another really fun episode. I sat down with Simone Sanders Townsend, who if you are not familiar, Simone has this illustrious career in political strategizing. She worked on campaigns. She worked in the White House. She has a background. Let me tell you, and then she has spent the last several years working in TV news. She currently hosts a show on MSNOW, formerly MSNBC. Things are, times they are a change in. But Simone is also a huge Bravo fan. And most importantly, she was at Watch What Happens Live just a couple of weeks ago with West Wilson. So we talked about that. We talked about lots of stuff with her too. Rhode Island, Atlanta, kind of the different worlds that politics and news and Bravo and reality TV all occupy. Another fun episode coming out on Tuesday. And we have just a banger guest lineup, if I do say so myself, on the docket for the rest of April. And even into May, I think we're, we're, we're plugging along. So make sure you are subscribed. Make sure you're following us on Spotify. Subscribe wherever you listen, wherever you watch. It's a good time in the land of mentioned at all. And it has been a busy time on Bravo. Now I do feel like we should start with just a little bit of an update on the summer house stuff. And, you know, as I was looking through my notes, I'm like, there's a lot going on. There's a lot of shows. Summer house is sort of not even at the top of the list of things I want to talk about. You know, this week's episode, Lindsay's having her house warming and, you know, Darrah's talking to Bailey about the rumor that she spent time in Ben's bedroom. And we see Sierra going to her grandparents house that she's bought in North Carolina. I would watch a whole show about Sierra doing renovations on this house and sort of like reconnecting with her roots in this way. I think that is just something that would be endlessly watchable. I saw somebody suggest that she Sierra should document this on like a YouTube channel or something. I think she should. I mean, think of how many people would be watching that. Sierra also is busy on red carpets. Last week she did that John Hamm show, your friends and neighbors. And this week she did the euphoria carpet and this moment went viral of her asking Sydney Sweeney if, you know, if it's cool to steal your friends X and if she's like, if you do, I think you should get married. Now I, okay, this clip was going around a lot and it was kind of making me laugh because Sierra, of course, is like leaning into this moment that she's having, which like as she should. But people were like, oh my God, like Sydney Sweeney comments on summer house situation. And I'm like, babes, that's the situation that her character on euphoria did in season two. Cassie got with me. It like, it's we, Sydney Sweeney, respect. I mean, I guess respect. I don't really care about Sydney, whatever. Sydney Sweeney is not out here reading what Dumois is posting about West and Amanda and Sierra. I mean, maybe she is like, there's a chance. But Sydney Sweeney is shuffling down that carpet in her little white dress because the publicist told her to and Sierra is the girl with the microphone and Sydney is gracious to her because she knows she's supposed to be. And Sierra asks her questions. She's like, yeah, you should definitely get married. If you're, if you're, no, it's not cool, but like, I guess you should get, it's not about summer house. I mean, it's about summer house because they knew to, like, because Sierra is there and she's looking in the camera and I love that. But like, we're giving Sydney Sweeney too much credit, I think. But yeah, there haven't been that many big updates in the summer house world this week. I mean, we know that Carl's a mess. There's hoodies that say that they're kind of capitalizing on. There was a charity element, I guess. I don't know. Jesse Solomon's out here, you know, trying to sell those tour tickets. I don't know. I feel like I'm in a place right now where with summer house, we know the reunion is coming up. We've got another still like five-ish weeks left in the season before we even see the reunion. So I'm a little bit like I would rather take my foot off the gas pedal for the next few weeks when it comes to the real-time updates and have a little bit more of a sense of surprise and a sense of discovery when we're watching the reunion. Because I think with everything that was happening last week, obviously it was like bombshell information. We need boots on the ground. We need to know what's happening. But I think to sort of preserve the sanctity of summer house, this institution, I now would like to know a little bit less of what's happening over the next couple of weeks. And there have been, you know, like people are seeing them around. You know, I saw like a photo, a grainy photo of West on an escalator at an airport. I'm like, okay, he's like living life, I guess. I don't need to know the like minute-to-minute updates. I hope Sierra doesn't talk about it in the next couple of weeks. I don't need Kyle to do any more interviews on the street. If Lindsay and Carl want to combine their powers for spawn, I think that's okay. But I don't need them to be like getting into details. I would like the reunion to be good. But the big thing that we found out this week is that in the city, our summer house spin-off, our East Coast, the Valley, if you will, is seeing the light of day in just a few short weeks on May 19th, right after the season finale of Summer House. They are pulling Beverly Hills into Vanderpump Rules, Vanderpump Rules into Summer House. As it began, so it will continue, Summer House will just waft into the first episode of In the City. And we got the trailer for that first season, and I, sure, we can do this, you know, it's a show with a bunch of people. Some of them we know, some of them we don't. Some of them I'm sure will love, some of them will continue to tolerate. I feel very like flat about In the City right now. I know last week I was kind of like, how is this show going to work? Is it even going to feel like it makes sense? How much are they going to have to pick back up cameras? And I would say after seeing the trailer, I am less concerned in an overall way about the viability of the show. And I'm more just kind of like, we'll see in terms of whether it will be good, whether it will be fun to watch, whether it will feel like a sort of necessary addition to the Bravo Rotation. There's one moment in the trailer that got a lot more attention than any other moment in the trailer, and that is, of course, when Amanda and West meet up, and Amanda's like, hey, and West is like, hey, Mandy, and then they embrace, and it's a very like crystal clear two second clip of them greeting each other and having a big hug. And I just like, if I could like have a magic lamp and have three wishes, one of them I'm sure I would use to get like really rich or something. One of them I would do some kind of like public good. The third wish I would love to know whether that shot was in the trailer prior to last week. Like I need to see, I need to dig through the like Adobe files, the like Premiere, the server, the cloud. And like last week after all this news broke, is there like in the city season one trailer, the V4 final, final updated, final, final, final. Like, like, were they messy and like, oh, we're gonna insert this at the last minute? Or was this something that they were just like, oh, like we'll throw it in there because it's cute. And then now it's taken on a whole different meaning. We need to know somebody at NBC Universal. If you can just slide into my DMs and let me know, if you saw a version of that trailer more than a week ago, what did it look like? Was it exactly the same? Was anything changed? Because overall the trailer, besides that one quick little moment heard around the world, the hey, Mandy heard around the world as it were, it's kind of a basic trailer. There are a bunch of new people. I think it's something like 14 people total in this cast. They're all, the cast photo is them like, you know, cut and pasted Photoshop style on a stoop. It's weird cause like they're very, you know, it's a big gaggle of people. They arranged them like little, you know, paper dolls on the stoop, but it's like Kyle and Amanda are still standing next to each other and they're right next to Lindsay, but they're not even really centered. And everybody's wearing brown. It's very like the Christian girl autumn photo shoot. Like it's kind of that aesthetic. And I guess, you know, in the city, it's gonna be like fall in New York. It's like just getting warm. I don't want it to get cold again. I don't know. But the rest of the trailer, I'm kind of like, yeah, okay, yeah. I mean, there's like drama, obviously. It'll be good to see that. Interestingly, I don't feel like it was very well known that Ms. Danielle Olivera has made her way back into another full-time role on a Bravo show in the year of our Lord, 2026. And can I just say, Danielle, good for you. Because it is, it's so funny the way the world works because when Danielle was, when she was not back on Summer House a couple of years ago, you know, she was there and then she was not, we don't know the exact circumstances, but people were kind of ruthless about it because she was not terribly well received in her final season of Summer House. She kind of, I would say she handled the whole founder and CEO thing kind of strangely. Her issues with Lindsay kind of were a weird blip. I don't know, but people acted when she did not come back to Summer House, like Bravo had dropped, kicked her into outer space. They acted like they said, you horrible woman, get off our network and you're gonna go spend the rest of your life at a leper colony. They acted like they didn't wanna see Danielle ever again. And what's so funny, the way this all works, she took two years off of Summer House and now she's back with a full-time role on a Bravo show, kind of like she never left. And it's just so funny, because I think people when somebody leaves a show or isn't asked to return to a show, obviously sometimes there is like big drama or oh, this person is, we're never gonna see them again. But also sometimes it just like is time for somebody to not be in a certain space and then they're still right in the background and the next time there's a space that it makes sense for them to be in, they're getting that call. So congrats to Danielle and also Andrea, Andrea's back. Andrea has a wife now. We know because all the Summer House people went to his wedding in Italy like last year, a couple of years ago, great to see him. He is looking just as fuckable as ever. Just, God damn, that's a fine, fine-ass man. He's so tan, he's got the muscles. There's a little moment in the trailer where he's laying in bed in just his boxes and you can see some stuff. Welcome back, Andrea. A pleasure to have you back in class. I don't know, other than that, I'm not really, I'm not tapping into the new people yet. We have over a month until this show airs. We're gonna have Summer House every week to talk about and I would say I will be more interested in like an in the city, deep dive kind of thing, like the week leading up to the premiere. I don't need to know 12 new people yet. It is very similar. I don't think the show itself will feel similar to the experience of watching the Valley because that was something where the main group hadn't been on Vanderpump rules in a few years at least. And it was more of a remove from where they had been before to this suburban life where most of them had kids, everybody was getting married. In the city is a little different because they're still in the city. If this was like, you know, Westchester County, oh my God, can you imagine? If you live in Westchester County, I'm so sorry, but like that will be when we know Bravo has really gone over the hill. When it's like next season on Westchester County, I'm sure there are people up there that are reality TV worthy. I don't think I wanna see it. And don't give me a one star review on Apple or whatever because you're like, Westchester County is awesome. You should spend more time there. It's fine. But no, in the city, they're still living in their apartments. They're still going, presumably going out, having fun. They're on the town. It's less like baby central than the valley, which, you know, I love me some valley. We got our sparkle pack, but it doesn't seem like exactly the same show, which I think is a good thing, but we'll see how it goes. We'll see how if we wanna remember 12 new people's names, we'll see how they handle the drama because we still don't know, more to come. Isn't life grande? And making it better just got easier with Starbucks' new protein cold foam. A little something, something to take your favorite drinks up a notch with 15 grams of extra protein. Turn your usual iced caramel latte into a smooth iced caramel protein latte. Add a delicious swirl on top of your drink, just like that. Protein never tasted so good with Starbucks' new protein cold foam. Subject to availability while stocks last. Let's talk about something that is here, and we're so glad and we're loving it. Two episodes in Real Households of Rhode Island, just great stuff. And when I recorded last week's episode, it was before the premiere of Rhode Island had aired. So I had seen the episode, I had gone to the premiere, I had talked to plenty of people in, you know, friends and people in like the industry who had seen the episodes, and all felt really strongly about it. But I didn't actually have any of that like real, real world social media conversation of people seeing it and reacting to it. And it has been so fun this past week watching people discover this show. And even like I'm sitting in the office and I feel like every day that I've been in this week, new people are coming up to me, are messaging me on Slack, are like, you know, DMing me, texting me of like, oh my God, I just watched Rhode Island. This is crazy. And like, it's such a fun communal experience of something new starting that is just really exciting and really different and really just like fresh and fun. And all of the like Alicia isms that are going around, I mean, the amount of times I have heard, I ran over a woman this week, it's episode two. And we have like iconography from this franchise. Like this show could be on for 10 seasons. And I feel like I ran over a woman is like gonna persist. That's something I'm not easily gonna forget. Is that a rule a lot? Whoa! When she's talking about her, I never leave the house without a quick carb. I like my saltines, my crackers, you know, a nuts for protein and a fig. I love a fig Newton, cause I feel like it's healthy for a cookie cause it has a fig, it's a fruit. Swan, it's a swan on ozempic. I mean, Alicia is like a soundbite machine. And what I love about her so much so far, and you know, just this pop, this was the first thing I felt like talking about, I'll get into more of the storylines, but Alicia is somebody who in these first couple episodes, at least comes across like this stuff really just comes out. It doesn't feel like she is putting on a performance. And it really, it doesn't feel like any of these women are putting on a performance. I would say if anybody feels like they're maybe in that territory a little bit, it would be rosy. Cause when she's in the confessional and she's like, Joellen's actually kind of nice when she's not being mean. Like that's a little bit where it's like, okay, I feel like you've kind of like thought about this a little too much. No, I fully believe Alicia sits down in that chair and just kind of you just like let her go and she'll just talk and talk and talk. And like when she's like, yeah, I don't like driving, you know, on the highway, I almost got Jov off a bridge, I ran over a woman. She's like, she's just prattling on. And the producer asked the stopper, like, sorry, sorry, what do you mean you ran over a woman? She's like, yeah, I ran over a woman. No words in the best way. And that one of my, one of my other favorite moments is later in the second episode when they're at this winery and the topic of conversation has shifted onto Rula's husband, Brian's alleged mistress. Even though I think, is it even alleged? There's photos of the mistress. The mistress, as Liz says. And she goes, Alicia just goes, he's a foot doctor, but I think he was rubbing more than feets. Does anyone want a piece of cheese? Just like, oh, it's almost like Linda Belcher kind of vibes. Easy foot doctor, rubbing more than feets. Does anyone want a piece of cheese? It's just like, it just, it scratches every inch for me. You guys who have listened to this for a long time know that I can't resist a good accent, a good, just like character. And this, I mean, this cast has it in spades, but I mean, Alicia just off the charts to start with. But this episode, the most important thing that I feel like we have to address is that we meet our final housewife in this episode. We meet Rula herself, Ms. Rula. She does not live in Cranston. You better believe she would never fucking live in Cranston. Can you imagine? No, she lives in a town called Lincoln, Rhode Island. And it's very classy. It's a lovely place. They show the pictures of their houses and I'm like, you guys, we gotta cut it out. You all live in like a 10 mile radius. And I know because, you know, I've talked to some people from Rhode Island. I'm aware of how, you know, small town stuff kind of works. Like, I know that it's like being one town over in Rhode Island probably means the difference between like, you're a piece of trash or you're like, you think you're better than me. But it's just, it's so funny. Cause I have spent some time in the last week on the Google Maps and I have like, zoom, zoom, zoomed. It took me, and I swear I wasn't even trying to be creepy. It took me two minutes to find Liz's house on Google Maps. From like one photo that they showed on the show. It's a tiny fucking state. When they're like, oh, I live in this town, there's only like four streets you could live on. There's not a lot of houses. So it's kind of, it's just like, wow, we are really being let into this world where there is, there's not a lot of different people. There's not a lot of different places to go. It's been funny. I've seen some commentary online of like, Rhode Island people who are sort of skeptical about this show or like downright negative about it, being like, oh my God, well, they didn't even let them film at any of the like, fancy places in Rhode Island. Like they had to film wherever they would let them. And it's like, okay. Look, I, if seven beautiful, crazy women, complimentary, crazy in the best way, if they want to fight at a winery, I don't really care which winery it is. I don't really care if it's like the nice winery that people actually like going to, or it's like the slightly less nice winery that they would let them film at. I'm like, let them film. They can, they can film in like somebody's backyard every episode for all I care. They're delivering and that's what I care about. But anyway, back to Rula, who has known Liz for over a decade through the boating community, very Rhode Island. She knows Alicia because her husband has a jewelry brand that they shop at and also they come into her, into Brian's restaurant. I'm like, that's very Rhode Island. She and Liz are both half Syrian. So that's another connection that they have. But just like the way that Rula is introduced, the fact that it's only been one episode, but it feels like we've been waiting our entire lives to meet this woman. And she shows up to this dinner with Liz and Kelsey and she walks in and she just sits down. She goes, how is the fourth? The way she looks at the camera, if you're listening on audio, I'm so sorry. The way she looks, she's just like, how is the fourth? And then she just kind of waits. And Liz feels awkward right off the bat because she had Rula her friends. They'd known each other for a long time. And she's like, Joe Allen hosted a party. It was fun. And Rula, the second she hears Joe Allen's name, it's like somebody has like opened a wound. And she's like, I just don't understand. Why, you know, when we're friends, why do you feel the need? Why do you like being around that woman? That woman. And we have opened a whole other can of worms. And it is only episode two. And we are just digging right in because we hear three different times in this episode. Liz used the word echo. She said, there's echoes all around the state that Rula's husband, Brian, has a mistress, mistress, mistress. Really excellent work from the editors there putting in the echo as she's like, mistress, mistress, mistress. There's a mistress. And so Rula is in this position where she's coming on this show. And there is like hard evidence out there that her husband, Brian, has cheated on her with this woman. And the evidence comes in the form of photographs that this woman posted, I think on Instagram. And now Rula has a big bone to pick with Joellen fucking Tiberi because Liz told her that Joellen had the photos. And so Rula connected with Joellen and she wanted to see the photos. Joellen is like, she was begging me to show her the photos. And I did. And then she got mad because according to Rula, Joellen didn't just have the photos. She sent the photos to all the women in the group. And so she didn't actually wanna help Rula. She wanted to like spread her dirt all around the state. And again, I love, I think I said this last week, I love that everything on this show is happening like statewide. It's like, there's echoes all around the state. Oh yeah, I heard around the state. Everybody in the state knows that there's a mistress. It's just like statewide gossip. And I love that because of course, the state is like the size of my pinky nail, but like it's a whole state. There's only 50 of them. But Rula's adamant that this mistress thing isn't happening anymore. And she says that Joellen is trying to make it. Like there's this woman and my husband is leaving me for this petty fucking slut. And she's like, it's not happening. And Liz does the thing that's in the season trailer. And I've been thinking about it since that trailer came out. And if you would have told me that it was in like one of the first scenes of the second episode of the show when she goes, but he is ma, but he is. Just like perfection. I care about these people so much and I've known them for like one week. It's kind of wild. But you know, Rula's trying to put on a good front, which I get, you know, you're coming onto this show for the first time, even if you can admit that something has happened to try and minimize it and to try and say, you know, like my husband loves me. He's coming home and sleeping with me and not this petty fucking slut. I get the instinct to do that, even if it's maybe not 100% true. And according to Liz, she says, Elizabeth is allergic to bullshit. So, you know, she doesn't want to hear it. And Rula's implying that Liz and Jerry have their own kind of arrangement, which we'll get into a little bit later. And then she says the thing that I think is almost like, it's crazy to go there in your first scene on Real Housewives where she goes, well, you know, when you produce the kids with somebody, it's a game changer of how, you know, you see things and you handle things. And this is like the exact dog whistle that Liz needs because of course we know Liz is married to Jerry and Jerry had three kids when they met. And so they are not Liz's biological children, but she has raised them for as long as she has been with Jerry. And their mother, we hear throughout the show, their mother is not around. I don't know the details, maybe they're out there, maybe they are, I haven't come across the details. Liz, you know, is very open about the fact that she, her life was changed when Jerry came into her life with these three girls and that she has raised these kids, she feels very close to them, she is very close to them. And so she obviously is gonna take offense to this. And she goes, oh, when you produce the kids, oh yeah, when you produce them. And Rula's like, oh, I didn't mean it like that. Oh, you know, you're taking it the wrong way. And it's like, no, she's not. You just said, when you produce the kids, it's a game changer. And so I'm interested in everything that Rula has going on, but I feel like, you know, we're only still seeing two scenes of her after this episode because she isn't feeling well and doesn't make it to the winery day, even though she's wearing in full glam on the FaceTime. You know, we got a clock it, you got a clock it. I need Rula to like participate because it feels like she's extremely anti-Jo Ellen. She's reticent to talk openly about the stuff that's going on with her husband. So my kind of like assignment to her, if we were imagining that this show wasn't filmed several months ago, is like in the coming weeks, you gotta show up, you gotta participate, you gotta play ball. Cause you're very new to this space and I don't want you to be acting like you're too good for it. You know, Alicia's going over to Kelsey's house. They're talking about, you know, channeling their in-air Hilary Duff and coming clean. Just, there's just great material throughout this show. But the winery day is a lot of fun. Well, I don't know if it's fun for them. It's fun for me to watch. They're in this party buzz. Alicia's packed all her snacks. Jo Ellen, they get there and she's asking if Rose is wine. I'm like, where the fuck are we? The year 2010, is Rose wine? What do you mean? I can't believe these women are not like glug glug glugging all summer long. Is Rose wine? Crazy ask question to ask. But Jo Ellen is pissed that Rula is, you know, mad at her about the mistress photo. Liz says, echoes again, put a dollar in the echoes jar. And this is when we find out that the extra piece of this that Rula is not gonna be telling us is that Jo Ellen says that after Rula got pissed off about the photos, she called Jo Ellen's job trying to get her fired as retaliation for Jo Ellen, you know, apparently spreading the news, the news that Brian had a mistress. So there is like some real shit going on here. It's not just, he said, she said, it's like, did this person expose my husband's potentially ongoing affair? And then as a retaliation, did this person try to get this other person fired from her job? We're in the shit here. We're in deep with these women that we met a week ago. And then through this game that Rose, that Kelsey brings to the table where you can put anonymous questions in people's boxes. I don't know, they're not really anonymous, I guess. Everybody kind of claims their question. We learn even more information. There's apparently a rumor that has been going around, again, the entire state that Rosie hooked up with a basketball coach. She denies that, she says they never even met. Somebody asks Jo Ellen if she is a swinger, a swinger as other people might say. And she says that she denies it, but she says she and Gary had a threesome one time. Interesting to note though, we also found out last week that she used to sleep with the owner of the Tanon Salon that she worked at and also his wife. So Jo Ellen, maybe not a swinger currently, but threesome's running the family, I don't know. Kelsey admits via this game that she is dating another man in addition to the sugar daddy of a decade and that they're both great people and she would be happy to end up with either or. Again, this wasn't even the main point of the game and we've learned three more intense relationship things. And then we get to Liz's question or should I say Alicia's question to Liz and this note that she writes and puts in the box, oh my God, they zoom in on it and it is, it says, I know it not true, love you, question mark, but the news, is it true? Alicia Hart, XOXO. First of all, what does that mean? What are you saying? What does any of that mean? It's just, I mean, if that is a representation of how Alicia's brain is working on the inside at all times, it makes sense that we're getting, I ran over a woman with no context. Like that's, yeah, I know it not true, love you, but the news, is it true? And Liz says, what's the news? What's the news? And we find out that there's a rumor, again, presumably all over the state, cause shit spreads, that Liz had a kind of relationship with her best friend, Beano. And of course his name is Dino, because of course it is. And Rosie says that there was something about this guy, Dino and her calling each other 400 times. And, you know, if you wanna do a little Googling, there are some like legal documents, that there's like some allegations against Dino that aren't great. Something related to some sort of illegal substance. I'll just say that. And so there are like phone records and stuff that have come to light as part of this. And so I think when Rosie says that there's a rumor about this calling each other 400 times, I think that the root of that is coming from this legal thing, where there are phone records. And yes, it's like hundreds of interactions between the two of them. But Liz says, nobody in the group understands the relationship between her and Dino. And that they had an unconventional relationship. And that maybe it wasn't completely, you know, the right thing, but that it was not a torrid affair. But she says that Jerry was getting into his sport fishing. Again, where the fuck are we? We're in Rhode Island, that's where. He was on sport fishing trips, gone for weeks at a time. Who has the, who has the PTO to be on a sport fishing trip for weeks at a time? I'm taking off half a day tomorrow. And I feel like I have to like, you know, pry myself away from the computer. I'm jealous. I want to be the king of cannabis. So I can go on the sport fishing trip for weeks at a time. No, that doesn't, I don't actually want to do that. I want, I want weeks off so I can do something very much different from sport fishing. But she says when he was gone on the sport fishing trip, she would spend all her time with Dino. But it was not a torrid affair. 400 phone calls though, something thereabouts. It is just, it continues to astound me through these first two episodes, the amount and the intensity of the revelations we are getting about these women's personal lives. And the fact that we have gotten this type of thing from Liz, from Rula, from Joellen, from Kelsey, Rosie has dipped her toe in, Ashley has cried two episodes in a row about her husband's dedication to the coffee shop. Almost everyone in this cast is like knee deep in something and we are finding out about it right off the bat. Now there might be more layers to peel back. I hope there are, I imagine there are. But again, to have this rich of a tapestry to talk through after just two episodes of a show is really astounding. And I, congratulations to these women. And if the, the chatter online, if the engagement on our posts is any indication this show is doing very well, I imagine Bravo is extremely happy with it right now. And the sky's the limit. Like those, like those astronauts up on Artemis 2, the sky's the limit. These women send them to the moon. Alicia would be like, oh, look, they're saddened. Did I forget my crackers? Where's the rings? Where's the moon? 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Because at party power games, we've got all sorts of games for all sorts of trickles. Eligibility rules and terms of conditions apply. Please come by responsibly. ATEMPLUS, CamilaWeir.org. We should talk about Real Housewives of Atlanta. The new season premiered this past weekend and I do think weirdly out of all the shows that are on right now, I feel like the Atlanta premiere has perhaps gotten a little under discussed because of how much has been going on in the world of Bravo specific. I mean, like the world at large too, like yes. But I do feel like Atlanta needs like a little bit of a, a little bit of a boost right now. Not because it's not good, but just because I think it's easy to get lost in the conversation. And similarly, I think the Valley, two episodes in, I've not heard much convo about the Valley yet this season. I don't think I'm really gonna touch on it today because I feel like I went long on Rhode Island. Sorry, I, no, actually not sorry. The Valley though, I think is a little tough for me after two episodes. It feels like all the storylines right now are really just lingering from last season. And I think I was already kind of ready to move on from them by the end of last season. Atlanta though, I'm in a little bit of a better place with because right off the bat, it's feeling fun. It's feeling like there is a sense of levity, a sense of fun shade, a sense of just kind of like, fabulosity that I think Atlanta really does well. And I'm into it. The premiere is not an episode that I think is like an all time great, but it's an episode that to me has enough of the right stuff that I'm like, okay, we've got something we can work with here. We start right off the bat, Angela Oakley and Charles Oakley are at home, they're making burgers. He's Charles like showing the middle of his burger directly to the camera. It's like, okay. But they of course are in this perpetual state of people thinking that her husband can't stand her. And I love, I have been really enjoying, Angela is like clapping back at people online in the most unserious way. Like somebody, Charles gives her a hug in this scene and somebody's like, oh damn, like the first time he's ever hugged her. And Angela was like, responded to that tweet or thread or whatever the fuck app it was on. And she goes, no, don't be rude. That was the second time. I'm like, yes, thank you. That is so fun. I would so much rather Angela kind of like have this playful relationship with the things that people say about her, then go off on a paragraph rant every time. Some rando with 12 followers is like trying to drag her marriage. Have fun with it. You're on housewives, they're not. Enjoy yourself, live your life. Their thing that she's a little frustrated about though is that in the off season, he said on a podcast that he got married to Angela because somebody drugged his drink, which not great, not super ideal. But she says that she super doesn't care about any of the rumors from last year, any of the things that people had to say about her marriage. I will just say, we're one episode in, we'll see how that holds up. We have two new housewives this season, but the big, the main attraction, the big draw is Kay Michelle. Kay Michelle, reality icon, songstress extraordinaire is taking her talents to the real housewives of Atlanta. And she's also doing country music. She's blazing a new trail just like, I was gonna say just like her pioneer ancestors, but no, she's blazing a new trail in country music. Beyonce is sending her flowers. Who else, who else can say that? Certainly not Drew Sidora. And it has been, it's been fun for me to watch Drew and Kay Michelle sort of feuding before the show even started, because there was an interview a couple of weeks ago where Angela, Kay Michelle and Phaedra were on the Sherry Shepherd show. And Kay Michelle was talking about her issues with Drew and Sherry was asking about it. And Kay Michelle goes, I will just say, it's not about what people think it's about, because people think or will think that we are feuding about music, because Drew does music, yeah, Drew does music, uh-huh. And Kay Michelle like does music. Note the, you know, I said those a little differently. And Kay Michelle said, I don't feud about music with beginners. I don't feud about music with people who don't do music. That's not something playful to me. She's like, she's dreaming about what I do. And I just, that energy right off the bat, I'm like, okay, yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, I'm here for that. But Kay Michelle's first scene is, her at this photo shoot with Portia. And it was fun, the way that they introduced Kay to the show because it felt a little bit acknowledging of the fact that this is somebody that we already have, many people watching, already have an existing relationship with a background knowledge of both because she is just like a well-known person. And, you know, yes, because she has been on other reality shows. And I think it's always a little bit delicate how you handle something like this when somebody joins Housewives or, you know, a new show for the first time, because you don't want it to be like, I'm Kay Michelle from Love and Hip Hop, and that's how you know me, and I'm, you know, now I'm in a new chapter, but you also kind of have to acknowledge it. You have to let the audience know that you know. And so, you know, Portia and Kay Michelle are catching up, you know, Portia's divorce is final, Kay Michelle just got married to a guy in Nashville, Dr. Casten, like very recently, we find out that Portia is calling Shamiah her ex-best friend and that their friendship has been non-existent, but she's inviting her to this dinner party. And Portia is like, oh, I'm inviting Drew Sidora, your fellow singer. And that's when Kay Michelle starts to be like, girl, okay, okay. But then Kay has a confessional where she says, she says, my past experience with women in Atlanta destroyed me. And she basically says now her whole career is about proving bitches wrong. And I love that. What better way to just like quickly address whatever people are thinking about of the last time they saw you on Love and Hip Hop and just address it, deal with it and fucking light that trash can on fire. She said that destroyed me. I have moved on. I am a whole housewife now. And my entire career, everything I do is to show everybody who doubted me that they were dumbasses. And, you know, I said when this season was announced, I have not seen all of Kay Michelle's reality TV output. I've watched some Love and Hip Hop, but not enough, frankly. But I am just like excited to have a fresh energy. And the one thing I was noticing, so I mentioned earlier Charles Oakley, like showing his hamburger to the camera. And then in this scene with Portia, I noticed over and over again, Kay Michelle was like looking straight down the lens of the camera. And I was like, is this, because I had noticed it twice early in the episode, I was like, is this something that they're like trying this season? Is this a new, is this a new like look that they're going with? And somebody asked Kay about it on social media. And she was like, oh, I don't know what that was. Either I was confused by the camera setup and didn't know where to look, or I was trying to get somebody on my team's attention. She said it was not intentional. So I was like looking out, I'm like, wait, are we like looking at the camera this season? Is this like Abed Elementary? What are we doing? It seems like it wasn't an intentional decision. I'm a little perplexed by why they left it in the edit, but still it's funny to me. Also to me, I have no idea if this is how she intended it, but I sort of read it as a little bit of like shade to VH1 and love and hip hop, when she was like, oh, maybe there were like more cameras than I was used to. Maybe it was like a different setup. I'm like, oh yeah, cause housewives is like, bringing in the cameras. It's not like, you know, one guy with a tripod and then you kind of just like go for it. We've got budget here in Atlanta, but the whole episode kind of centers on this big dinner party that Portia has, and she has maintained the home that she and Simon lived in. It's a home that we have seen on this show before, not last season, cause last season she, I believe, was not allowed to film in this home as the divorce was being handled. But we have seen this home before because Fallon used to live there. So it's a familiar home to us viewers and also some of the ladies. And Portia is re-christening this former marital home with a dinner party where everybody is supposed to bring a date. Whether or not you got one, you gotta bring one. And we have not one, but two FaceTime dates. Cynthia FaceTime's in her man who's in Amsterdam, La Prince. I'm like, sure, why not? And then Drew never one to pass up an opportunity to do the absolute most. Drew brings a man on FaceTime and keeps him on FaceTime for the entire fucking dinner. And okay, watching the scene, it's maybe 15, 20 minutes. You know how these shows film, they were at that house for, it's gotta be at least two to three hours. And this man is sitting there on FaceTime black, like black with a Q, figure it out. Sitting on FaceTime, I think he has a ring light. She has him like propped up on the table. Somebody was like, how did he, I think it was Phaedra, she was like, did he have to go to the bathroom? Does that man have a colostomy bag? I'm like hearing Phaedra Park say the word colostomy bag. Not on my bingo card, but I'm glad I heard it. I'm glad it happened. But we are, where we get to at this group dinner, there's some fun shade being thrown, there's some good moments. We find out that Ralph is still living in the basement. God damn it. But it feels like some of the drama that we're talking about is still a little bit reheated from last season. Because there's this whole issue with Phaedra and Angela where they're beefing over something that happened at a Hawks game. And that somebody with Phaedra, according to Angela, came up to her and said, I'm the one with hands, like I'm fine that she's gonna like beat her up or something. It's very real housewives of Dallas behind the door when it's like, they're just hands, but they work fine. It's like, okay, whatever that means. But they're going back and forth about this. Phaedra is like, well, I saw the tapes and that didn't happen. She's implying that she pulled the security tapes at the fucking Atlanta Hawks game and that she reviewed the footage and nobody said anything to Angela. And then she says in the confessional that she actually hasn't seen the tapes, but she asked them to check the tapes. And they, I don't know, it's very convoluted. Phaedra is clearly like bluffing a little bit here. And I would just say, I mean, this is kind of going back to what happened last season where there was, you know, somebody who came and gave like a shady toast. And again, that was like somebody from Phaedra's team. Like, it just, it feels like Angela and Phaedra, if they want to have an issue, I need it to be something grounded a little bit more in the events of the show. Because right now it's very like under the surface, like somebody that was on your team said to me that somebody was on my team, that your guy came to this thing and it's like, you know, like fight on camera, please. Fight about not getting invited to a party. Fight about saying something crazy about somebody's husband. Fight about something I can watch and like understand. Cause when the drama gets a little bit too like, hearsay, word of mouth, it just is less, it's less fun to be like invested in. And I think this cast has really great potential. I thought last season was like pretty good. I think K-Michelle is a fun addition. We do meet Pinky Cole. I don't know really where to place her kind of yet. She's like listing off all her magazine covers. She says she built a hundred million dollar brand with Sleddy Vegan. And I'm already thinking in my head about, in the season trailer, she's talking about filing for bankruptcy. So I'm like, okay, where's the, where's the, where's the drop off? There's gotta be a cliff coming, coming somewhere. But you know, it's a fun little episode. It's a fun little premiere. I hope it's a great season. We'll see where it goes. And just to wrap up, I want to talk about Beverly Hills a little bit. I was so sure, I was so sure that this week was gonna be the season finale of Beverly Hills. It just, have we not been through enough? It's been a long fucking season. This show premiered in December. It's April. I think next week is their finale, but this week's episode ended with a to be continued. So we didn't even get a, a, a next week. So it would, I was thinking it would say next week on the season finale of real hostess of Beverly Hills, but it just said to be continued. Now I have to sit here and wonder. It's next week. Thank you producer Joe, but it's, it's been a while. Three part reunion. I will say the reunion looks came out today and Jennifer Tilly mopped the fucking floor with them. She's wearing this gown, a custom Balmain gown with her face on the front of the dress. It's like a half of the face. It's like a black, like velvet looking gown with like a half face of her made out of beads. And it is like a vivid image of her with red lipstick. She looks fucking cool. Her hair up to high heaven. That is how you show up and show the fuck out at a reunion because you know, that's not, you can't get that from, from, you know, Marlowe's archive rental, you can't get that from somebody's designer showroom. That is custom made for yourself. One of one, nobody else has that. I mean, nobody else would want that because it's fucking custom. The one other version I have seen of that dress of somebody else having one with the picture of them made out of the beads is Kylie Jenner. Obviously Kylie and Jennifer Tilly very different, but both fucking rich. So that's one thing I'm excited to see at the reunion. Anything else? No, I mean, this episode wasn't bad necessarily. One thing I will give, I am glad that we are not fully leaning into every housewife season ending on the trip because we have gotten, you know, it has worked quite well for Salt Lake in the last few years starting with that, you know, reality of auntie's Bermuda trip. They've done it now, I think three seasons in a row on Salt Lake where the last, you know, the last dinner of the trip essentially is the end of the season. They did an on Potomac this past season in Colorado, which of course was an awesome, hilarious finale. I like that we are coming back from Tuscany and still having something to do because I think ending the trip, ending the finale on the trip can be an amazing way to end, but I think the trip has to kind of earn that. And yeah, I mean, they were like yelling at the last dinner in Tuscany, but I just, I don't think it's always the right editing choice. And so we got back from Tuscany last week, you know, everybody's debriefing, complaining, catching up, whatever, but we still have quite a bit to go because we have Rachel's birthday party. It's like disco vibes. She gets everybody to show up good for her. One of the funniest things though about this party. First of all, Kyle not knowing Rachel's son's name when even Kathy did. She's like, oh, oh, that's Rachel's son. And Kathy's like, oh, Kias. And Kathy's like, and Kyle's like, oh, like, Callis, Calli, Calli? She's like, no, Kias, that's the name. You know, it's bad when Kathy knows the name and you don't. Like Kathy's whole thing is to not know the name. Anyway, no, but what actually made me laugh is that there's a random moment when the party has kind of like, you know, gotten into people on the dance floor or whatever of Nicole are like phantom friend of this season who was on the trip to Tuscany, but we've like never heard from. Nicole is like Camille Grammer style, really moving it and shaking it on the dance floor. She's fully doing the splits and we get like a whole shot of her just dancing by herself. And Jennifer Tilly and the confessional going, Nicole earned every penny of that big divorce settlement. I'm like, what big divorce settlement? Why in episode 17 of the season are we deciding we need to spotlight Nicole? Where was Nicole for the first 12 episodes? I'm so confused. Because it's like, it sounds like Nicole's big divorce settlement was maybe a topic of conversation, but conversation that we never saw. So I'm just, it's weird all around. I would love to have like a proper answer to like what the fuck happened with Nicole this season. She's not at the reunion, obviously. Like I can't think of them having her, whatever. But anyway, back to sort of the main arc of the group besides Kyle not knowing Rachel's son's name. Derrit is really leaning into this idea in these last few episodes of Kyle forming this kind of band of minions against Derrit, specifically Erica, Satin and Amanda. And when she first kind of started bringing it up like towards the end of the Italy trip, I was a little bit like, okay, you're kind of doing a lot. People have their own issues with you. Amanda's like a whole other can of worms. And like Kyle and Amanda have really only been getting along for like a week and a half. Like I don't think they have some like deep friendship. But toward the end of this episode, you're starting to see it more. Because Derrit, the episode ends with Derrit having a book cover reveal party, which I feel like we did on another show. It's, she's definitely, they're acting like this is so ridiculous to have a party where you're just like releasing the cover of the book. And I'm like, we've definitely been here before. But anyway, we did, I think Macy on Mormon Wives did that where it was like the book cover, anyway, I digress. But so she's having this book cover release party and it's after they've gotten into it at Rachel's birthday party, where, you know, Derrit says she needs to have a convo with Kyle and Derrit feels like Satin is having a lot of opinions about how she should approach it. And, you know, she's been very stressed because it's been her kid's first day of school. And so Derrit walks away from Satin, Satin's like, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. And then Satin goes back to confront Derrit later in the party for hurting her feelings. And Derrit's like, well, I'm sorry. And Satin's like, well, are you? And she's like, look, if I said I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And it's like, okay, got it, you're not sorry. Thank you for, thank you for clearing that up in action, if not in word. But they, so Derrit walks away from Satin twice at that party. And so then leading into her book reveal thing, she's like, oh, I just don't know. I don't know about this half of the group but she's inviting everyone, it's a big moment for her. And we have like a lot of, a lot of lead up of Satin, you know, talking shit about the party on FaceTime with her mom, Reba, Erica's talking to Rachel about how it would devastate Derrit if she doesn't come to the book party. And Rachel's like, yeah, it would. It really would. The foreshadowing is heavy here. You know, Kyle is feeling conflicted about whether to go. Amanda's like, I just don't know. I don't know if I can go. Cause I don't, but she hasn't written the book yet but she hired a ghost writer. I mean, it's a little out of order. It's a little wonky. But then the episode ends with this like ominous reveal. Amanda decides to go. Satin FaceTime's Bose, while she's in the car to say she's not coming. We hear that Kyle is tired and overwhelmed. So she's not going to make it. Satin, Satin texted 30 minutes after the event started that she's not going to make it, but she hasn't heard from Erica. So she's like, oh, Erica should be here. And it's like dramatic music, dramatic music, dramatic music. And the episode ends with Erica knocking on the door and it's the door to Sutton's house. So we know that Erica is not going to Derrit's party. Now is this messy? Of course they're like, oh, this is going to look really bad, but we did it planet. And it's like, I don't know if it looks really bad. It just is like kind of shitty. It's kind of shitty that you didn't go. But the whole thing that I find really interesting is that Beverly Hills has been here before because do we not remember the years on this show when we were talking about the Fox Force five when at the time it was Kyle Derrit, Erica, Lisa Rena and Teddy. And this is back when, you know, when LVP was leaving, when Garcelle was coming on the show, when Sutton was first, you know, coming on the show, Denise was around during those times. Like we have been in this almost, I mean, really similar position on Beverly Hills where there was kind of this click forming within the cast that was weaponized in a way that wasn't very fun for the viewers to watch and experience. Even if you liked people in that group or you were on their side in a certain situation, it just wasn't a very fun viewing experience. And it's not the exact same situation, but I do think it's a little ironic that Derrit is like so hopped up on this idea that there's this like group being formed against her and it's a little bit like, I mean, perhaps a taste of her own medicine. But I mean, it's a different situation and obviously Derrit has been going through stuff with her divorce and I think it's going to be really interesting going into the reunion for this season because obviously nothing good is gonna happen in the finale. What is the ideal way forward for Derrit? Is she really looking at Kyle and Erica and saying that these friendships are past the point of no return? Is it that serious? I don't know, but at the same time, I think there has to be like some, somebody has to give basically because right now they're just on completely different pages especially Kyle and Derrit and Erica's just kind of over it. She's like, I put in years of your, with your bullshit, I don't need to be spoken to like this. But we'll see, we'll see. Next week is the season finale, I've been told. The one thing I just wanna mention, before Derrit's whole book party, I kind of wanted to talk about that all in one cause it's split up a little bit but Bose gets engaged on this episode. And I kind of forgot that, I mean, I guess we knew that this was, I don't know, it's not got on me. You know, people have some mixed things to say about Keely. Some people think he's like a scammer. People don't love the, like the conversation they had earlier this season about him, like not having his job anymore in the future. That was kind of a weird vibe. I don't know, I'm not that tuned into what's going on in Bose's personal life. But was it not weird? Okay, so she shows up till like dinner, she's like, oh, like a reservation, whatever. They take her to this private room and her entire extended family is there, which is cute, whatever, maybe not what I would want but like fine. And Keely's there, she's crying, whatever. Every single person in that room is holding up their phone, filming like they are at barricade at a Blackpink concert. Like flash on phone in front of their face. It's like, put the fucking phone down. I get you want the memories. This is being, we're talking about it right now. It's being filmed by a professional film crew. And also like, does Keely not have a photographer there, like snapping some pictures? I think if you are gonna have a proposal like that where there is like a group of people assembled, I think you designate hire a photographer. If you have money, they have money, I think, allegedly. Hire a photographer. And if you wanna have one person taking like the iPhone video for people to post on their Instagram stories, pick one. Better yet, get somebody that works at the restaurant to do it, be like, hey, can you phone for the next 30 seconds? I just would be so, not to yuck anyone's yum. I mean, if you dream of getting engaged with people with their phones in their faces, that's amazing for you. I just like, get off your phones. I love to go to a concert where the artist is like, put the phones away, be in the moment. Is that like a boomery take of me? I don't know, I'm just like, you're getting engaged and you're like, second cousin's aunt, is there filming like she's a Coachella? Enough, put the phone down. I'm gonna put the iPad down. I think we're done. That was a fun time, thank you so much. Thanks everyone for listening. Like I said, fun guests happening all through the month, so make sure you're subscribed, make sure you're following youtube.com slash app bravo by Betches, Spotify, wherever you listen. More to come. Everybody have a great weekend and until next time, be cool. Don't be all uncool. 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