We're Mentally Preparing For The Eagles To Draft A Quarterback

You're listening to the GoBirds podcast. Come on, Red! GoBirds! GoBirds! Hey, hello. It is the GoBirds podcast. I'm your Mark Ziemselzer with you. E, what up, pal? How you doing? It's a crazy time. What a wild day. It is a wild time. Yes, it is. I feel like we say that often. Yeah. Do you usually talk about the Eagles? Yeah. We won't get into them, you know. But I was thinking this, like, definitely crazy time to be alive. You're damn right, pal. But so the moon. Yes. Yeah. Pretty cool, huh? I have a thought. I can't, well, God. Tucker and I just looked at each other and smirked. Well, it's really not that crazy. I'm just wondering where you guys are at with this. Like, do you think if you were in the spaceship, or it's called a spaceship, I guess, right? Yeah, sure. Even though it's like, even though it looks nothing like a spaceship, but regardless, like, it's like, I feel like we, I feel like we draw spaceships very different than what they look like out in space. It looks more like a satellite. So it looks, it looks like a, what it is, a spaceship. What we draw might not look like spaceships. Exactly. It's the point. But it's a spaceship. It is. And it looks like a spaceship. Yeah. So do you think if you were in the spaceship, looking out the window at the moon or the earth or whatever, I think it would almost be too much for the human mind to even process. Oh, yeah. I think it's on the line. I think it would feel big. Like, you would look out in the light. I'm sure it is incredibly surreal. I'm sure it's, even if you're looking at it, like, I don't even know your brain could... I think the four astronauts, it is a different thing where they have trained for so long and thought about this for so long. I mean, like the read wise, the guy that tweet was going around where it's like I dreamed about. So I think that it's different for them in the sense that for you and me, it's like, this is just... For them, they've envisioned it. They've thought about, they've imagined being out there so much. I think it's probably a little less surreal. Probably taking the trip. But, but I think it has to absolutely be surreal. It's the most awe inspiring thing you possibly see. Like, of course, it must be wild. Just like looking out in space. Oh, I would. So when I, it's funny because I, you know, I'm not the biggest heights fan. I have no problem flying. I don't think you would feel afraid. I don't like heights when I'm outside something. But if I'm inside, I'm good. Like, I would absolutely go to space if given the opportunity. I wouldn't need to think about it. I wouldn't be scared. Like, I would do it. Like, that seems like such a unique, unbelievable experience. Like, are you kidding me? Like, you're talking about seeing the face of God. Like, what are we talking about here? I, it would be a big to do. It would be a lot of time. Like, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be afraid to do it. It's just like, you know, it just be a lot of stuff going on. Housewives of Rhode Island is out now. Like, there's just a lot of, I can't think of a less. Exciting place. Oh, they got the Rhode Island house. So I mean, it's the first episode was pretty good. I mean, I'm sure you can find it. Quote, I'm going to house. I'm not going to watch it when I come back, but it's like a housewives of Rhode Island. Like really? Well, we're not hurting for places. I'm actually surprised they haven't done it. It's hurting for places. Is it Rhode Island? Like a pretty, it's a pretty wealthy area. Sure. And you're saying it's like, what are we doing here? Just great, great content. Yeah, it would be wild. It'd be crazy to be up there. I mean, and then you come back, like it's always like when you drive somewhere, it always feels longer driving back. I wonder if the trip back there. Like, all right, like I've been in this for a while. How do you think they sleep? What do you mean? Like they obviously sleep, right? But like they have like beds in there and stuff. Of course. I assume it just looks pretty tight. So I don't we're just in one room. It's much bigger on that. They're not showing like the whole thing. It'd be hard to sleep. You've seen like movies with spaceships and stuff. Plus Apollo 13. So, you know, they moved around from different rooms. Right. 60s. Yeah. Time. Yes. This is a great movie. Phenomenal movie. Yeah. This is the early 70s. It would have been right after the all time. Good to fall asleep to a movie. Apollo 13 is one of the most like as entertaining. Unbelievable. Great movie. Yeah. No, I mean, I think it'd be hard to sleep though. Jim Lovell called the astronauts. You see that? That was cool. Well, then the one guy who unfortunately passed away recorded a message for the astronauts. Was it Jim? Maybe that was what it was. Yeah. I don't either. I just saw Jim Lovell speaks the astronauts. Yes. I think he actually maybe he was dead. Yeah. It makes sense. I was like Jim Lovell still alive. That's shocking. That makes you die. I think he died last year. That makes way more sense here. Let's look it up. You died in August. That's it. Jim Lovell. 97. Recording messages for after death. I'm into that. Me too. Yeah. I think it's a good thing. I don't think I should record a pod. I was about to say, can you tell that we don't have anything to say about the Eagles? No, we'll get to it. But I was thinking if I ever have to have surgery, I do think I would write a letter. Okay. Just being like just any surgery. That's serious. I think if I were going under anesthesia. Okay. Any is like if you're getting a colonoscopy or something. I mean, that would be a tough way to go. I'm saying that my point is like, Tucker, my point is like there is different anesthesia. There's like, I have a 50% chance of surviving. I have a 99.9% chance of surviving. Well, it's like my near death experience on the plane. Oh, totally like that. Yeah. Like I almost texted Kristen. Anything happens. Don't order food. Don't finish the sentence. Yeah. If anything happens, dot, dot, dot, and then she'll just want to forever. I was thinking it is pretty crazy too. Like, and then we will get to the Eagles. But if I were to text Kristen, like I'm on a plane. I think I might die. Like, wouldn't you, I almost feel like there's like a, well, maybe I shouldn't. Well, okay. Well, I think it's like a, my favorite thing on the bodies when Ellie will do that. I'm not going to say it. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. What's she going to do about it? Oh, yeah. So it's almost like heartless. Exactly. Like I would just text, I love you or something like that. And then just be like, well, that was it. No, and Kristen and Emily, she would see it. I'd already be dead. Oh, yeah. It would be powerful. Cause she would see it like a month after I was dead. Oh my God. You should get the news and then be like, oh, he texted me. Oh, okay. Yeah. All time classic and then true. Well, that would be the all time is that you pick out your phone to call her on the plane. You're going down. You just want to talk to your wife when we're done. You don't need no answer. I know. Exactly. Leave a message. Telemarketers can get through on Wi-Fi now. I've gotten calls on the plane with airplane. Wow. That is outrageous. But literal last thing that we'll talk about the classic like if we made this a bit, then just never die right there. Classic like significant other moment. So I'm at the grocery store. So you know the grocery store on Washington, like that target sprout. If you park in that. Yeah. The parking garage. Yeah. For some reason it like alerts, you get an alert on your phone about it. Like so they changed the way it now, like it does filming. Exactly. So anyway, Kristen now knows when I park in that lot. Right. Weird. So I stopped after the gym. No big deal to me. I was like, I'm going to park. And she gets a text being like Elliot is parked in this lot, which alerts her to the fact that I'm at the grocery store. So she texts me as like, can you pick up these two things? See the text. And of course, right after I call no pickup. So I had to decide between what type of cottage. Yeah. Sounds about right. Yeah. Good times. Speaking of deciding. There you go. Should the Eagles drop to Gordirac? I'm. Well. All right. Let's let's. Yeah. We'll bounce around. I'm going to go back to the way. Like it's. In that, in no area. Soon. Elliot sir do a little work. Bring in that. Get my draft pods coming wide receiver one, which is the Denzel Boston. That is. Then he's the wide receiver one. Yeah. You're the best. Well, Peter Schreger, who says, who has like one of the most accurate mock drafts each year has them taking a receiver at 23 and the awesome go earlier. Right. Oh, he has Denzel Boston falling to him. Really? He has him. I think he's the third receiver off the board or second. He has carnell Tate. Well, let's start here. So not there. Carnell Tate's the first receiver. That's the house. Hey, guy, right? Yeah, he's very good. Yeah. I have number two. Okay. Of course. All right. Well, let's start with that just before we get to the quarterback. So I'm not today. 16 days out. We have the right change. What position do you think the deals take? And again, the board has to follow you have to guess like. I still think it'll be offensive line. And I think they'll start him a guard. Tyler scenes a year out from being paid. I think there's a benefit. The offensive line was not good last year. I think Steen is smaller than like the rest of them. So I think like there's a benefit of putting a huge guard in there again next to lane. Lane prefers playing next to big guards. I think if they drafted someone that will venture to go for lane, I do think he'll play next year. I feel pretty strongly. You just supplant. I don't think they will start. They won't sit their first round pick. It's silly on multiple levels, but the biggest level being well, unless you're going to say who can't play guard, like there are tackles who fit. No, but I think they will take somebody that they can put a card. Okay. I find that will be. But I don't want, but I don't want that. I want them to pick that. Like if you're going to replace, let's get into this then. If you're going to replace Lane Johnson, I want you to take the best tackle you can take. Like if he can play guard for your great, but I am okay sitting him out for the year with because I get that generally you don't want to say your first round pick and you don't want to waste a year of the, but like in a specific situation. And again, this is dependent upon the Eagles knowing for sure that Lane Johnson is leaving after it. Again, he can change his mind, but like they know better than we do where Lane's at. They know how close he came to retire this time. And they know like he could tell them, Hey, is it a chance? Like they can at least get a feel for where he's at. And if they truly believe this is last season, I do think it is a unique scenario. We were taking someone to learn from the best to do it. And, you know, in the franchise's history, arguably, one of the best for sure. And it is really a one year thing. And he's stepping right into that spot. So like I would be okay with that. To the, I start, I'd be okay if they drop someone with my guard too, but I am not taking someone. I'm taking the better tackle over the guy because he could play garden tackle. So here, I think it's an interesting question, but here's something to consider too. Like we're talking about Lane moving on in a year. Landon could be gone. Sure. Dean could be gone. So I get your point that ultimately take, if, if you're drafting a tackle, like take the guy that's 10 out of 10 prospect to tackle instead of eight out of 10 at guard and tackle, you know what I mean? That's what I'm trying to say. But the benefit of it is he could be the guard. Like he could be a starting guard for you. Now there is, I think also debate about if you want to take guard later in the draft. But if you're taking someone that you think, I also think most tackles can play guard. Like you're in a tighter space. Like I just, I think most tackles could do it anyway. And also, we know this offense a lot of pulling like a smoke. Like, you know, so we don't know for sure, you know, but I do think there would be a big benefit. I get your point. And I do think ultimately, if you're going to draft lanes replacement, you want that to be the priority and what you're picking, but you can need a land replacement. You can need a scene replacement. I don't think you're going to need a my lot of replacement, but I do think sometimes we underestimate a little bit like how banged up my lot his body has been. Like he said, back issues, you can't replace everyone. I know you can't, but I'm saying, I think there's a benefit of drafting someone. You have to worry about the lane replacement before you were read the my lot of replacement. The land and replacements big too, but the lane replacement is obviously bigger. So it's just a more important position tackle. I just don't think they'll sit someone for a year. It's going to be fascinating. I think they might, but I agree. I think ideally they take the guy they think is the best tackle. They can just buy garden. It's, you know, not an issue, but I do. If it is a situation where it's an eight out of 10 tackle, play guard and a 10 out of 10 tackle, I hope they take 10 out of 10. It'll also be interesting to see if they trade up like, I mean, 23 is like pretty high for this team to be drafted over the past few years. Right. I know it's been, you know, pretty, uh, you know, like 30s, low 20s, 30s, low 20s, but ideally you think they're going to be a team that's not going to be drafting a 23. So like looking at the Peter Stregger mock draft, if carnal Tate is like 14 or 15, you wonder if they would make the leap up. So when I watch carnal Tate, first of all, like, I think he's going to be awesome. He's an Ohio State receiver. Like, look, the track record recently on a house and obviously Marvin Harrison is not busted out yet, but it's pretty frigging impressive. But like the thing I, and this will be like my biggest takeaway from watching the receivers was it had me excited about the idea of replacing H.I. In the way that AJ is older, he's expensive and he's unhappy. The guy that you're drafting in the first round will be cheap, young and in theory thrilled to be with the eagle. Certainly you would think he more excited than if he went to the, the, the, you know, Panthers or whoever, you never know. You never know what these guys, not a big jailing guy. Right. But like, um, I do think that there is an excitement in going into this and like having there be a freshness. We talked about this on Gobert's radio, but like the quote of, um, the quote of like, we're not running it back until we run it back. Um, I mean, I do think they want some infusion of newness into this offense and it's not going to happen. It could happen on the offensive line like we just talked about, but it's tough to like have real, real, a strong feeling of newness when your new starter is at guard. It doesn't mean that the offense, the offense lines better. It helps everything. Yeah. But that doesn't give you a feeling of like, okay, things are going to be different. So if sake ones back have got it back, Devante's back, they've already signed the two new receivers. It'll be role players. Like I do think there is something to adding a receiver that has people excited about this. I'm not saying it's why you make the decision, but I think even just internally on the offense and in the front office and the coaching staff, it will be exciting to get a young receiver. Totally. Well, and also just like if we're just talking about this season, like forgetting moving forward on the lane replacement, like for this season, you could argue that assuming AJ is gone, like we believe he will be wide receiver might be their biggest need on offense. You could argue it is there. So definitely that's the point. You know, I mean, for just for this year, now again, Lane has say healthy. Yeah. Steen has to be better on stuff. But you know, if AJ is gone, I mean, that's it. That is a gaping hole there in terms of that, you know, high profile number one type wide receiver. Yeah. Devante will be good. But you know what I mean? One thing I kept thinking when watching the receivers to is, is how much does it matter to draft an AJ replacement in body type? Because like Devante is undersized. He just is. So and if you're going to have Hollywood Brown and Elijah Moore, and I know they're only one year deal, they're both undersized. They're both undersized. I do think you need some, you need somebody out there that can deal and like be physical and deal with bigger corners. And so like, I don't think you have to try to draft AJ's body type, but I think to me watching them Denzel Boston is more AJ's body type than than how Carnotate is smaller. Yeah. And I don't think that's like the ultimate reason to draft it. But if you look at and you're planning to have a Devante for a while, you want a body type that is going to not be too similar to that, in my opinion. Yeah. Look, again, I'm taking the best who I think is the best player, but I agree with you. Ideally, you're finding someone to give them a little size because you, yeah, it is a small receiving. Yeah. Like there's no doubt. Um, all right, let's get to the Jalen thing and that quarterback part of it. Because obviously with the Jalen articles and all that, we've talked a lot about Jalen and the whole situation and all that. And I do think that we mentioned on the air, sorry, really the only thing that happened between now and that show was the what happened prior to the show, the Floreo report that we didn't really get into that. Do you have any thoughts on that before we dive into the draft and the quarterback thing? That they want to reach them. That Floreo is saying the Eagles purposefully did this and the J messager received it all. How did you take that? I mean, I don't love it if it's true. Like I don't love it on a couple ways. One, I don't love that they think that's the only way they can reach Jalen. That's the best way because obviously they would have talked to him. I don't think this is like the first move they made. Two, I just don't love it in general. Like I just, I think it's un, now I don't want to say it's unfair to Jalen because if Jalen is doing things in the building that they don't like, and if they talk to Jalen, yeah, exactly. Right. But like it does cause a stir for Jalen that I don't find productive. It just seems like a pressure on him. It's like a roundabout way to go about something. Whereas like ideally you could deal with it directly. But I do assume by it that the Eagles tried to deal with it more directly. Isn't it? Yeah. It's so I mean, I look, I do think there is, I think that there is enough examples of this Jalen stuff coming out that they wanted out. So I would agree with Floreo in that regard. All right. Let's get to the, cause we've talked a lot generally about the idea of, oh, would they draft a quarterback and let's talk about the first couple of rounds, first three rounds, whatever. Cause I think if you're drafting a quarterback of the fifth round, it's a different discussion than the second round. The third round is I'm going to think about. Hit or miss. Yeah. Hit or miss. I mean, you know, Foles, Russell, and the other guys. Why does it mean on terms of if, if they draft a quarterback in the third round, I can't decide how much of that is like a shot across Jalen and how much of that is late third round. We don't really have a, yeah. I mean, it's a, but that guy's guaranteed to be on the pick. I mean, on the roster, Tanner's gone in a year. It's not as much, but it's not nothing either. So where do you say, and I know you've been pretty strong about, they shouldn't draft a quarterback. Let's say the second round, because that seems like, you know, that's where they took Jalen. And it is, you know, a point. They have done this. You know, they did it with Carson, they signed a contract and then they went and drafted Jalen. They had, you know, a McNabb and drafted Kevin Cobb. They brought him Michael. Like they've, this historically, you know, how he's been a part of, how he wasn't there for all that, but how he's been a part of, you know, being out in front in terms of having options at quarterback and having, you know, optionality as far as it goes. Do you think that's something they're considering? Because we both have said we wouldn't do it. So like, forget what you and I would do. Let's talk about what we think could happen and the situation the Eagles are in. Because if the reason I brought the Florida part is if that's true and we take it at face value, why wouldn't they draft it? You know what I mean? If they are this concerned about Jalen as the future of their franchise to the point where they had to go to the media to speak to him essentially, to get him to receive their message. Like in that, like in that case, and I wouldn't draft the quarterback, but if I'm the Eagles in that case, like, of course I would draft or certainly like, I mean, it would be almost negligent not to write everyone. How do you take that whole like, you know, tapestry and weave it together? I just to your point, like us, the person listening, like remove your opinion of it. I do think we're being delusional to think there's no chance. Right. Like, I mean, there's absolutely a chance. Way more noise in my opinion going into this draft than there was when they drafted. And there's literal history of it. Gee, the guy playing quarterback was that guy. He was the guy drafted the second round when they already had the franchise guy. I can't imagine they'd be that dumb. It would be so dumb. I know, I generally, this is, we are on the same page in terms, but they can literally look to six years ago and say, we did this exact thing and we went to sue Super Rules and one one because we made this move. That's fine. But then there can be no, we still believe in Jalen. Like when they drafted Carson, I'm sorry, when they drafted Jalen, the message was crystal clear coming that from, from that building. He is not a threat to Carson. Nobody's going to think he should start, but he was. No, I know, but I'm saying like, so I'm talking about this twofold. There's how they feel internally and there's the message externally. If they draft a quarterback in the second round, they cannot say this is about Tanner McKee. They cannot say this isn't about Jalen because that's delusional. It's delusional to think they would draft someone in the second round that's not going to be a long-term starter for them. Right. It's just, but it would be so. I, I, I agreed that. But again, they have done that exact thing where they drafted a guy and told us in the second round, it was a backup. Like this is like, so that I get it. They could do it. They have done that exact thing where they took a quarterback in the second round when they had a franchise guy, but they just gave a contract to, and they just did it and said, Hey, it's, this isn't Carson. This is about, they did that exact, like they could do it. I don't, I'm not saying they will. I'm just saying they could, they did it. So I can't think of a great example for this example I want to use is like, it's almost like if you cheat once, right? It's obviously messed up. You shouldn't do it. And then if you do it again, it's like, it's worse compounded. You know what I mean? Or like, if you call out sick from work and you get in trouble and then you do it again, like it's compounded, right? So I don't think they can draft a quarterback in the second round and not think and be so delusional to think that Jalen himself wouldn't think it and the outside noise. Like the outside noise does matter. They're going to have to deal if they draft a quarterback, he becomes arguably the most important player on the roster. If they draft a second round quarterback, because that is their future franchise quarterback. That is what likely. Yes. So that is barring him being a well again. He will start like Jalen unless Jalen goes out and is freaking awesome this year. Like that that is possible, right? Like they drafted quarterback. Then they just trade them. I don't know, man. If Jalen is going to sit a second round pick for four years, that's that is a major waste of a resource. Now you could argue. But now if it yeah, I think it's like how many but also again, they could trade him after coming if it's someone like Ty Simpson or whatever. And I don't love that. I think I played 15 in the college. Like I'm always leery of that. I don't watch them. Yeah. But like let's say it's someone like that. Just as an example, like they could bring him in and trade him into years when he's playing a couple games on Jalen and you could get value there. Like, you know, you could probably get a second round pick back. You know, I mean, third that could be a one or maybe, you know, who knows? You know, no, I haven't watched all the quarterbacks yet. I'm doing that later today. My initial read through. Yes, I did all my research on them. I'm a phenomenon. Put my eyes on them. Like I'm a little in on Drew Aller, like six, five, oh, Penn State. Yeah. And I don't love that he's from Penn State because they are going every any good quarterbacks that come out of there. But like, wow, shots of Kerry that's not well in Christian Hackenburg. You know, Harry Hollens went to a Super Bowl. No, I know. I know. Chris Nagrim was horrible. Did he go to the Super Bowl with him? The Giants. Who they lose? Oh, they lost to the Ravens. That's right. Okay. Yeah. That's right. That's right. Well, I got flashbacks there for a second. Um, but I just I'm like to circle all the way back around. Could they do it? Like, yeah, but we all have to be honest with ourselves if they do it. Like that's it. We saw it play out. I think it's probably and it's, you know, if they do it, I think it's saying something and all that. I just do think there is that 10 percent chance, 5 percent chance, whatever that they do it. Jaylin says, all right, screw y'all and goes out and has one of the great seasons that your has the best season. Pay him a ton of money. Well, then they pay him. They probably were. Or they go, we've been really impressed by this guy in the building. Jaylin, you want to go somewhere else? Like, who knows? But the point is like, there is a percent chance that if Jaylin plays well, he's the guy. Yeah. Or the quarterback they draft sucks. Like, yeah, there's a million. Everything. So yeah. But I do know what you mean from a messaging standpoint. I think that if they did that, you fans should take it as, hey, Jaylin is on the shakiest ground that you could possibly be on his way out. Yeah. Likely. Or internally to your point, if they actually have all these concerns about that's my point. That's why I'm so like, I don't think they should do it. But like, if they feel this way about Jaylin, where they went to this level to get like, then it's like, I almost think that to your point, it would almost be negligent. Not to take a shot. If they like him, it's all about how much they like to go. Of course. And again, to our overall thing that we say every year now, like, our opinions on quarterbacks are completely invalid because we're not in the room with them. Like we get it. Like, yeah. And it's of all the positions. Of all, it's so, yeah. I, I can say what I think, but it doesn't matter unless I'm in the room and I talk to my nominals. But also keep in mind with a new offense, they could be looking for new things in a court. Sure. Like, yeah. Like if they were installing this offense and had no quarterback on the roster, would Jaylin be who they drafted? That's an interesting point. Probably not. Yeah. Right. So like if they're going in this direction, they might need a new quarterback. Like in that regard, but think about how much we stress and have stress, the need to find a lane replacement. Because we think lane could be gone in the air. If you think Jaylin could be gone in the air, quarterback is like way more important. Exactly. Sort of more important. It's just, it would be so tough to do. Now what's interesting is I think we're going to talk to Howie before the draft. Ooh. How does he answer? Would you take a quarterback? I have to ask. He's going to say he'll give some version of we're always looking to improve the roster. We're going to take the best players to help us do that. I think the question is like, are you going into this draft feeling like you need to draft a quarterback? Yes. That's the way. And he's, but he'll say we're never, we never go in. I'll just have to ask him. We have to draft any position. Yeah. Ever. Yeah. Yeah. I'll have to try to get there. It has to be asked though. But like, man, it would be insane. Now you look at the initial group of quarterbacks. So Ty Simpson, again, not watched him yet, but he does seem like the type of guy that would make sense. Like, because he is not super big. Tools. I think he's like six one. That not the end of the world, but I think they ideally would prefer their quarterback. He's Anthony Richardson. Yeah. You know, that's who you, and I'm not saying it's going to end up like. Anthony Richardson went top 10. He went fourth. Yeah. I'm just saying like, he's Anthony Richardson with the last physical build. Yeah. Now went to Alabama. Yeah. Although I was thinking like Alabama's not like the quarterback factory. Well, or even just when like Nick Saban was there and they were winning all the time. I think you're like, oh, they went to Alabama. That's your point. I don't know if I view it like that anymore. It's like Georgia now. But excuse me, like Ty Simpson's an interesting name in terms of like they could sit there and go if he's there at 53, like, whoa, who would have ever thought, right? Still, I think same. That's a hurts. I know. I don't think they draft 53 again. Is it 53? Because that'd be so weird. Check it out. I think it's maybe it's, I don't know. I just know 53 Hertz was a 53. Well, no, it'd be 56, I guess. Yeah. Hertz was a 53rd pick in the draft. So I don't know. That wouldn't even make sense. Tucker's going to look it up. Yeah, they're probably like 58, 60, someone there. 54. 54. Oh, you were close. Pretty close. Garrett, Garrett Nussmeyer, like a Doug's kid. Yeah. So he's in the draft like he's viewed. I think it's like a prototypical like your center shotgun quarterback. And then I am in on Drew Allard. Now there's the other guy that I was when I was reading about. I think makes a ton of sense for him. Let me get his name because I'm so learning about him. Seems like a pretty bad year for quarterback. It is not a great year for quarterback, but it's actually, I think a decent year if you're going for a later on. A developmental guy like Taylor and Green out of Arkansas, 6'6, 227 pounds. Well, I was going to look this up today, but you're actually the person asked. What's the number with the quarterback hands? It's like, if it's nine inches or nine under nine inches, under nine inches, Mike, this guy almost has 10 inch hands. Oh, wow. So yeah, that's huge. All right. Yeah. And on the top were like under. Goss Goss. No, Goss was like right at nine. Michael Vic is the only one with like Michael Vic has the smallest hands to success ratio in the history than a. Wow. You are like a for as little as you can. Attention to draft your quarterback hand thing is like, but he has almost 500 rushes. This guy, Taylor and Green out of Arkansas, 6'6, he can move. I'm just going to assume he has a cannon for an arm. Yeah. If you're 6'6 and run, you almost always have a cannon for an arm. But like he could be someone where I think you could legitimately say, if you take him in the fourth round, where it's like, not a threat to Jalen, but like, yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I mean, the quarterback thing is fascinating because. It's also messing huge because the Tanner thing, like forgetting the Jalen part, which is the most fascinating and obviously that like, then also 10 is not one of your life. Like 10 is gone. I agree. But you can use a second round, but no, no, no, I'm just saying in general, this is a team that always has someone that's why I think the third or fourth round pick is interesting. Fascinating. But it also sends a clear. Oh, here's actually another thought I had. This is completely unrelated to this, but I think it's an interesting question. So we think Tanner's probably gone, right? AJ is at the very least probably gone after this year, if not gone already. Jalen feels like he has one year. I'm not there yet, but I know you're saying. With AJ or Jalen? Jalen. Well, I mean, Jalen certainly going to this year feel not to contract. Yes. Yes. Yes. Lane thinks he's gone in a year. Landon might retire. Yeah, come on. Very different. The second one might be gone in a year. Goddard, every tight end on the roster is a free agent again. Then you go on the defensive side of the ball. Tariq Wollin is on a one year deal. Jalex Hunt is going to be here, but he's in a contract year. Nolan Smith is in a true contract year because they, oh, no, they can pick the fifth year option up on him. So I guess he'll have two left. Zach Bond contractually is really only a two year deal. All their safeties are going to be like, how many people on the Eagles can sit there and go, I feel really, really confident. I'll be on the roster in 27. Good people fighting for contracts. Maybe, but like the other flip side of that is you got like 40 independent cut and we're not even talking about the bottom half of the roster who are always like in flux. Right. So serious question. How many players can we look at right now and say they will definitely be on the roster in 20? Like you would. No, it's a great question. Yeah, I think Quinion Cooper, Quinion Cooper, Jordan Davis, Jalex. I think Jalex will be on the last one. I mean, I think they're going to pay Jalen Carter. I know you can make your life on it, but I think they will. He's close to it. I think he's, that's why I brought him off. That's four. I guess whoever they draft in the first second round, that's six. You came and said, John Campbell, you would think, but like, yeah, John Campbell will be on the roster. Yeah. On the roster, at least like he might not play. Yeah. That's seven. I mean, my lotta. I think my lotta you feel good about. Cam. Sure. Cam is two years. That's 10. Me and then McCuba and these other guys, but do they, you know, are they good enough to get cut after this year? If he's like little and hurt again, I doubt it's a second round pick you think it'll be cut off for two years. I doubt it. They very rarely traded. I don't know. I'm just sitting. Sidney made it. How many years? He was a third round. He was, but wasn't he the first? No, that was that was. Steen and him were both at the top. Yeah. One was at the end and one was at the top. Yeah. But anyway, the point I'm making is not like that's a lot of people on the roster that are you're right on some version of a one year deal. It's a lot more. It's not like we're on the way up. Let's build together team. It's like everyone's looking at. Got to be fair. Football is like that to begin with. Like they're. Yeah. I guess we went through everywhere. Most and contracts themselves. We know it's a lot of one year to year type things when even if they don't say they are whatever you know. I don't think any football players for the most part on average. Like I don't think football is a sport where you feel like I'm here forever. I'm here at this place for a long time. I'm like part of this. I think it is year to year in a general sense for a lot of these guys philosophically. But you even think in two years is a long time in the NFL. But like after 24 it was like Jalen Devante, AJ, Sake 1. You know God are probably not included in that. But like Landon, Cam. I got it. I got it. Like there was so many people in a defensive side of the ball. Like where you're like these guys are going to be here forever. Like this core is so young and like look at this on the Ascension. It just changed so it's a lot of the guys were mentioning we'll get resigned. We'll be here. Like it's just like their question marks. You can't bet. But like if I had to bet, I would bet that some of the names we mentioned are still here a lot yet. But it's more about the uncertainty. Oh, it's a lot of feeling that. Yeah. Yeah. Again, I think it's probably more normal in general in football to feel less short. But I get your point. It definitely feels like guys who are sure we're going to be here longer might not be in all that type of stuff. All right. You got anything else? Or we get to find lots of other draft type things you've been doing. We've got draft pods coming. You're going to be doing some draft. What? So where do you want them to go? Without knowing, I guess. I mean, look, a wide receiver would be fun. I mean, it's you know, it's what we do. But like if they've drafted a layman place, I'm happy. I think it's probably the smartest thing that the most necessary thing. But like if they trade up and take one of these stud receivers, I'm going to be static. I'm going to be celebrated. Well, the tough thing too, if you were to draft it, let's say they trade up for car Neltator. Let's say they trade up for Denzel Boston. Jordan Tyson is an interesting one. Like I think if it wasn't for the major knee injury he had, then you would he'd probably go top 10 and watching him. He's pretty awesome. He's a little skinny, but like he's pretty awesome. But he had a knee injury that was like the ACL PC. Oh, no, that's scary. Yeah. So that's a concern. But like if you draft one of those guys, where it is your leverage for AJ becomes like even worse. And so I think that's another benefit of trying to trade him back. AJ before, I love that call dude. You know, like great point, Elliott. Thank you. Yeah. Seriously, it's a great, you're right. Yeah, it does. Like then the Patriots, whoever is definitely looking like, you just drive. We got it. We got it for whatever you want. You might get a third for AJ at that point. Especially if no other team jumps in. What a phenomenal. I totally agree with you. That's the delicate dance. That's also probably another reason why I don't believe this June 1st thing. Yeah. Because if you don't trade him before June 1st and you draft a receiver, you lose even more leverage. In an ideal world, you'd want to trade him now. And so you can go into draft, do whatever you want. Now it shouldn't impact who they draft. Like, because ultimately if you find a guy at, let's say you trade up to 17, like at that point, it doesn't matter. Like AJ is just gone. Right. So like you're going to get the best asset you can get. Interesting point. But it isn't a tough selling. It is a, it's going to make the good, you know, trading maybe. Yeah. I think it's a really good point by you. I like, yeah, again, look at you just busting out the points. I try. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm again, I'm in on Jordan Tyson. I'm just worried about the, the guy I'm out on concerning the guy I'm out on. Mackay Lemon. It's a great name though. It is a good name. In someone compared to them other than, oh, you got a lemon. That's a good point too. Yeah. That I can just, yeah. Oh, they got a lemon. Yeah. I could see that. Not great. I love Sealski, but this has Sealski tweet written all over it. Oh yeah. That is such a Sealski tweet. Oh, Eagles better hope they didn't get a lemon. Yeah. Yeah. My car. 2 1 5. Yeah. Not yet, but to me, this is what's important. As much as you're not drafting an AJ replacement, the guy you're taking the first two rounds has to have wide receiver one potential. And I saw people saying, well, Devante is actually the wide receiver one. I don't know about that. So I think I'm taking a big body. Yeah. I think the Monday is like the 15th or 13th or whatever, best even the NFL. You want to draft something that can be top five. So like he is, yes, he is one of the 32. He is a one for a lot, but like that's, he's not a one. I agree. All bold. Yeah. Like big letters one, you know, and he's good. He is obviously awesome. Like he's great. I just, I don't know. He's like a one A. He's a one A. Yeah. Like now Chimar Chase is not very big, you know, he's bigger though. He's bigger, but I think is he taller? Yeah. He's taller. He is. Okay. I mean, looks to arm just. He's definitely thicker. Like Justin Jefferson. Yeah. Hell, tall is chase. Chimar chase Tucker. Taller than me. I know. Obviously. Yeah. That was never the question. There's one rider see where I like. Brand shot in Georgia. That's 510. Oh, gosh. It seems like a dude. Yeah. I'm just not in a six foot. Okay. So I would have thought longer. Yeah. I think the is taller than him because I think the Vonte six one. Is he I think the budget is 62 right? I know. I don't care what the list is. What do you think he is? I'm saying being around Devonte. I think you need six one. He strikes me as a buck. He's also listed at six foot. Yeah. Officially been measured at six foot. Well, chase plays bigger than Chris. Chase looks so much bigger. Devonte is skinny. He has a big. Probably 40 pounds heavier. Yeah. He plays bigger too. Yeah. So I just think they got draft someone with like. Yeah. Like elite some like some muscle half someone that could like carry the weight literally of being the number one receiver. Yeah. I like that. I I cosine. All right. Let's get to five thoughts. Um, once again, just never ready. I think I had nowhere. Never ready. No, I don't know where I teased it like two minutes. Oh, okay. Anything else before we get to my thoughts five minutes ago. Yeah, exactly. So I got two here. I have two from one movie. I'm only going to do one. I'm going to split them up. But I have two final. I'll do one off. I'll do one off of like watching something. So I'm rewatching Friday Night Lights. Just of course. Great. Just the best show. Yeah. Like I really I rip you for rewatching. Love. Now the first season is unbelievable. It falls off. The second is horrible. Yeah. And not horrible, but it's bad for that. And then by the third, the whole hit the guy or killed the guy is a horrible plot line. It's like it went off the rails. But they brought it back. And what they do is smash is horrible. Now the season they bring it back though. And then obviously the four and five when Michael B. Jordan comes in our new life. And yes, agreed. So I'm the awesome. That is a random one. Namdi Asimov is a cop in that show. No way. Is it really the one who arrests Michael B. Jordan? No way. The first episode of season four. No way. So after Michael B. Jordan won the Oscar, I was like, oh, I should rewatch him in Friday Night Lights. When you did that, you see him do it for Landry. Yeah, that was awesome. Talk about too. It's interesting how Landry ended up having. I mean, Michael B. Jordan had a better acting career, I think. So yeah. But like Landry's had a pretty awesome. Well, they're the two biggest for sure. Like Jesse Plemmons is a movie star. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no, Vince was a major character when he was on it. I mean, he was one of the main characters. I'm thinking of like, you're right. When he came on as a show. Yeah. But I mean, the first season, like Michael B. Jordan's not even in it. Right. Yeah. Well, yeah. Right. So anyway, I'm rewatching the show and I'm sure this is like this with a lot of shows, but there's this show specifically. I just find it so funny. So like in theory, these kids are in high school, right? Like, but obviously. I'd say any show. It's like these kids are 25 years old. Like they do the plays for Riggins. Oh, yeah. It's so funny. Do you imagine that kid in your high school? No. But anyway, I think it's so funny and shows when like, so, you know, Riggins like is like Riggins goes into the car dealership to talk to Buddy and is basically being like, you have got to like do this, right? Or like they're just debating, moving and taking the job in college and the daughter's like, you know, like you can't. I don't have kids, but like, I can't imagine making a huge life decision and your 16 year olds like, no, did I be like, shut up? Yeah. Like, you know, like, what do you even offering an opinion on? Totally. You could never understand the complexity of 100% say shut up. Yeah. Like if I'll get your opinion when I need it. Yeah. I know I'll pretend to listen. Yeah. Like you know, and there are things like, would you, you know, like if 16 year olds like moving, if you're moving the family, what do you think of this? What do you think of that? Like, I'm not making a decision. But I'd like to know what you know. Like play. Like, even then, I'd like to care about my kid and what they think. But I'm certainly not making a decision based on anything like you have to move high schools for a year. Like, sorry, I'm sure that will suck. I'm not diminishing it. But like, so anyway, I just think it's so funny in the show, like all these kids, like, you know, smash is like, you know, teaching an adult a lesson. It's like, what do you know, bro? Yeah. Yeah. So I know that's because I'm older. No, it is. It is. It was funny to be watching it, you know, like, it was probably, I was probably in early years of college. I don't know if I was in high school. What would have been early 2000s, right? I think the first season was 2005 or 2000. Okay. So I was just starting mid 20s. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm sure at the time I watched it, you know, look at these kids making all these great points. Now I watch it. I'm like, shut up. Yeah. What are we talking about here? Yeah. Like, you don't even have a job. You're a kid in rural Texas. You know nothing. Okay. Of the world. I will say too, though, and this is a dead serious point. You watch it and it makes you realize like Jalen really has been in the spotlight his entire life to be a quarterback in the state of Texas is no joke. And like he was got recruited to Alabama. I don't know where he was as a, he probably wasn't five star. Yeah. Was he a five star? I'm sure he was. He went to Alabama as a freshman. Yeah. He's true. Yeah. So he must have been. But like the pressure he's been under his whole life is like, that's a great point. It would be fun to be in a small town in a way and like have that, you know? Sure. But the Eagles and all that. I don't think it's a little weird too, though. Yeah, for sure. But also, do you think about it's not, it's not any more. I don't think like high school kids should be like the heroes of a town to your earlier point. I don't disagree with that, but then it's also like. Deified and whatnot. Should a 23 year old be a hero of a town? No, but like a grown ass adult. Can like the point is like, I don't think we should like let these kids like the way they're like treated like, do whatever you want. Treat. Here's that. It's like we should be some rules. Oh, for sure. 100%. Yeah. I definitely agree. It's also funny the scene where street tries to buy beer and they don't let them and Riggins, they let him go. And it's like, you know that they're literally in the same grade. But they're not. Well, Riggins is younger actually. Yeah. By two years. Right. Yeah. The funniest part of the show is he's the oldest looking person. By the way, he's a sophomore for Taylor Kitch. Shout out to life. He must have led him and some fellas. He is a very handsome fellow. He should have been a star. He really should have. He really should have had a real problem. Yeah. Not a not a great actor. No. No. No. Was that John Carter and battle? Yeah. Yeah. They gave you two shots and yeah. You're exactly right. Like in savages, you got, you know, as I felt you ramen that you had some other spots. He would have been good in. Um, he's a handsome man. He was gambit in the old memory. The X. Man. He was like a Kevin Rekosner quality where he can kind of be understated. A little wooden in a way. Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like he's Kevin Rekosner's better. Yeah. He could have been the main character in Sons of Anarchy. OK. I feel like that's like a, you don't want Sons of Anarchy? I saw like a, I saw like the first season. I was surprised by that. I saw like it was Jax, right? Yeah. I mean, Jax, another one. Another handsome fellow. He should have had a huge career. Yeah. I was surprised. He was pretty good in the Netflix one. But there was another final fright. Oh, here's it. So a caller said this, I can't remember if it was on when I was on Go Birds with you, if we were on The Morning Show. But he called Jalen a grown man. Of course. OK. I'm just wondering. 27 years old. Nothing about Jalen. I'm just saying, like, do you think you're a grown man when you're 26? Yeah, I do. I guess because what he's been growing. I think you keep growing and you keep getting, yes. But I think when you're in your mid-20s, you're a grown man. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Like now Jalen's in a unique situation. I don't think you are as evolved and cultured. And like, or even like your opinions are, not as supported. Life experience matters. Right. So like. But I think you're still a grown man. Like you're just more of a grown man. Like my brother is like 23. Like I wouldn't, no offense to Jude, I wouldn't consider him like a grown man. Now, maybe it's because of Jalen's. Well, I think it I think those early 20s. Like you said 26, 25, 26, 27, I would say yes. I don't know about 22. I don't know what I would. I kind of think like 30, 33. Yeah. Yeah. I guess you were just a little sorry to Bob. Well, I mean, again, Jalen has tens of millions or hundreds of millions. Jalen is a grown man. Okay. Again, nothing about Jalen. I think Jalen himself, regardless, like the way he carries it, I think that guy is a grown man. Yes. Maybe it's unfair to treat him like a grown man. Is the point I'm at. I think we should. I did what he means. 27, just $1 million. He's a grown man. What are you talking about? He's still, he's the age. He's not children. The age is still the age. He's 27, 28. That's a grown man. That's a grown ass man. Yes. I think you're wrong about this. I think you're wrong about this. I get your point, but I think you're wrong. I don't know. Would you take a 25 year old's opinion like super seriously? No, but that doesn't mean he's not a grown man. You keep aging. You keep your. So what makes you a grown man? I think once you're 25, 26, 27, you live on your own. You take care of yourself. You pay your own bills. It's about independence. Gore, it's about being a grown ass man. Okay. Yeah. Well, it was a curse. But like, so for you, being grown is about independence. It's not only about independence. I think it's about a lot of things, but I think that generally, and like, I think that look, not everyone wants to be independent. Not everyone. I think that when you're 25, 27, you should be able to do those things. You are a grown man. You can handle those things. Like not everyone does it. Like maybe people, you know, develop slower. Maybe people try and people are lazy. People are this, whatever. My point is that I think you're 25. You should be expected to be able to handle yourself and be a grown man. Yes. That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Fair enough. Makes sense. Yes. Okay. I'm guessing neither of you. Tucker, obviously there's a chance you've no chance. Either of you ever heard of the movie running on empty 80s movie? No. Great. Great. Sydney Lamont, when the great director of the time, a 12-angry man and a bunch of others. Anyway, great movie. River Phoenix is unbelievable in it. Like it's one of those movies you watch. You're like, I can't believe this guy died. This is such a shame. Like you did. You died when you was like 21. The point is like the amazing role, like this kid, the career that didn't happen. Like Heath Ledger. Like he's Leo. He was Leo. Like he was Leo. Like he's that great an actor. And even better. Like he's the most handsome man I've ever met. Like River Phoenix was the perfect actor. Did they play the Jackson Brown song in the movie? Did they play the song running on empty? No, they don't. What's this guy's name? River Phoenix. He's the most handsome man that ever happened to me. Oh, he's one of them. He was a very, like he was Leo Hansen. He was very, he's Joaquin Phoenix's brother. You've never heard of River Phoenix? No. I did think of Joaquin Phoenix when you said the name. Yeah. He's Joaquin Phoenix's older brother. Oh, yeah. This dude's pretty handsome. He's one of the most, he was like the next great actor and he died of a drug overdose. He was 23. Yeah. He was, this is a real, so I've tried to tell his story. So anyway. I'm not a grown man. Yeah. There you go. River Phoenix. Anyway, he's unbelievable in this movie. Handsome fellow. He's just a very random picture. That is a weird picture. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, so River Phoenix in this movie, it doesn't have to do with that, but just schooling on who River Phoenix is. But all right. So in the movie, this family is on the run. Like the parents did like a bombing of a, you know, I came in like a munitions, munitions lab or something. Like they were, you know, you know, and, you know, someone got hurt. No one's supposed to be there. Someone got hurt. Don't die. But so they're on the run since they are fugitives. Bonnie and Clyde. Well, no, they have two kids. Like they're not like, it was like a one-time political thing. They're a couple on the run. Couple on the run with two kids. Okay. So I've got two from it. One is about the kids, but we'll do that next time. This is my. Being on the run with kids has to make it so much harder. Well, so that's it. Should I just do that one? Maybe I'll save the other one for this. So that was part of my thing is so being a fugitive with a kid or the run on the run with a kid who grows into an adult, like how do you handle that? So there that was part of the one. I love everything to run for. For 14 years, 17 years or something like that. At what point are you not on the run anymore? Like you've kind of escaped. No, they didn't. They keep having to move. Like the first part of the movie is them having to move from a town because it gets too hot for them. Like they constantly. Do they keep committing crimes? No, they are just constantly on the run. Like they are from the initial. Top 10 most wanted FBI. Like they're constantly on the run. They bombed a thing and a guy almost died. Right. They are on the run for 17 years. Kind of like the beginning of the movie is they have to move out of this town because this happened. Like they could get right because one of the person who was involved got arrested and then did it to like they're constantly on the run. Head over their shoulders their whole lives. Like I'm not advocating for this, but it would be an interesting rule as if you were successful on the run for 10 years. So you're good. Well, so that. Okay. So now we're getting into both of my final thoughts here. I just make them. I'm just going to make them. All right. The first one about the kids is the idea of like, what do you do if a kid becomes adult? Like they can't like enter society. If they are so you never see them again. Like you are a fugitive on the run. Like you can never see the kid again. Like how do you let that kid like become a part of society? Can they or they never get married? Never kids. Like do they just stay on the run with you forever? Or do you have to like say goodbye and say because it's not their fault? Like they didn't do it. They can go but they're going to have cameras around them. There's always going to be this thing around them. There's like that was part of that was one. And then the other more the point of what you just said like watching the movie back in the 80s as it takes place is like unless you were a freaking moron or just a very reckless human. I don't understand how anyone ever got caught back in the day. Like how did any? Yeah, it was so easy. If you just go far away. Like there's no technology. Like there's nothing your faces aren't like it's like so easy. Well, you could also I feel like pretty easily just go overseas. I can't imagine a little harder because of your point. But regardless the point being like I don't know Mexico. How could anyone find you? How could you ever be found? It just seems so easy to stay away forever back in the day when there's no technology. Things didn't go as viral like there was no viral. There's no such thing as viral. There's the newspaper and the news at night. You know what I mean? Yeah, I feel like now if somebody committed. Now it's possible. That's my point. Like now your thing would actually have a thing. And then I would have everyone have your phone. If you if you stay a few different year, I agree like you want. Yeah, you know, but back in the day, I feel like how did you ever get caught? Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying after 14 years. Like you're kind of in the clear there. So what do you know about the kid? I think you got a tough spot, right? You got to let him live with family members. But then the kid never sees you again. That's tough. But I agree with you. Like, I mean, it'd be I guess it'd be tough to send him to school. Like it'd be hard to have your kid enrolled in school when you're on. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. So they have fake names and they try and use like, you know, but yeah, you know, it's tough. Yeah. I was also thinking since just another random thought, like, man, if I ever get captured, like I would snitch so easily. Oh, yeah. I know you. And I also think what do you guys want? I'll tell you right now. I'll tell you everything. No, you don't. Yeah, I'll tell you what do you want? I'll tell you the time. I almost think you'd have to make a decision going in being like, just so you guys know. I'm open for business. I will snitch. I'm open for business. Because people go like you're going to die anyway. And it's like, yeah, but at least I don't got to get tortured for like days before. Kill me quick. How would feel bad? I would. I would feel bad. I guess maybe maybe I shouldn't. I don't know. It'd be a tough one, but I would. I have such a low pain tolerance and I love the gossip. So I just can't imagine within five minutes. Let me tell you guys. I wouldn't be like just singing. I'd be like, just let me live though. Like I'm obviously on your side. This is really good. Thank you. This is when you know we're at the end of the pod. Yeah. Yeah. This is fun. Anyway, running and I have to great movie. Really, really, really good movie. If you want to see how it plays out, watch it. OK. Judd Hirsch, Christine Lottie. Judd. Martha Plimpton. Wow. What a name. Judd Hirsch. Judd is famous. You'd recognize. I bet I would recognize. Yeah. Judd Hirsch is rough. All right. It's been fun. We'll be back later in the week. Until then. He's out of the day.