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So I'm gonna go ahead and fill in for us today. Okay? He ain't stuck in Mexico or nothing like that. We all good. We all good, okay? Aren't y'all worried about nothing? Y'all know we're gonna get into it. We'll get into it a little bit of the stiller ball. We probably gonna talk some of that brown stuff. I don't know, we're gonna get into some other stuff too. So it's kind of a little, little last minute curve ball, but listen, we gonna be good, baby. We go, hey, we gonna be good. Look here, man. The stiller's over here. We got a little report talking about Darnales Washington, our big tight end over there. They saying his value don't went up a little bit. And you know, they're getting that from the last recent little bit of signings of these tight ends over here. They got a, they think the stillers will have to pay more for Darnales Washington after this off season because the price tag has gone up. That people, I believe it to be true. But that's only if the stillers want to keep him. You know, I doubt they won't keep him, but that's gonna be dependent on how the new coaching staff is gonna using, while Washington getting a new deal, no longer feels like a lock with the new coaching staff. That's only because it's gonna pivot on how they're gonna using in the offense. And when you look at it, I believe right now you have Kittle, Kittle and think McBride, Arizona and San Francisco as a couple of the top guys. But the big one that's messing it up, I ain't gonna say messing it up. That's wrong. It's the pits over there in Atlanta, they franchised him. So that right there is changing the market a little bit. But what people have to understand is that the stillers do have Friday move, okay? And right now he's around 12 a year. So a realistic number for Washington, I would say somewhere between maybe that eight 10 range max, and that's assuming that they have plans to use him effectively. Just, what was that? Oh my goodness, the tight end that we just let go. It was a John New, I think he was making seven. And I would agree that, yeah, seven, I don't know, seven could do it, might not do it, who knows? He's coming off of an injury too, but the old price obviously won't be the new price. So, and honestly, I think that's the least of our worries as far as guys that need to get a deal done that have a year left, you have nephew, of course, we gotta get something done with nephew. And we got boss, we definitely gotta get something done with boss, still is need that. And matter of fact, Mr. Rooney said, the stillers will be putting in black seats that will be installed in the upper deck of Acrochure Stadium. My braces can be getting in the way, y'all gotta understand my braces be getting in the way. I guess it's only gonna be in the upper deck for now. He said, we're making changes to the seating. The see a goal sometimes get overwhelming. So we did a little black and gold in there this time around. Chat, do y'all agree with putting in black seats? Where'd the chat say? Where'd the chat, yeah, see, it was John Newsman. I was right, okay, okay. Y'all like putting in the black seats or not? Y'all think we should go with it, don't go with it, do you care, does it matter? What do y'all think? The stillers putting in black seats to me, I think that's something that should have been done a long time ago. When you look at it, our colors are black and gold. It's not just gold, but again, you have to look at what the use of the stadium is, like who all used stadium. Now, when you look at it, we share a stadium. The Panthers also used the stadium. Their colors, blue and gold, black and gold, that may have been a middle ground of, you know what? We won't go black, we won't go blue, we'll just go, just go, you know? But when it comes down to it, the bigger reason is when you put dark seats in there, you can't see who not sitting there, which I don't understand because I believe, like we got season tickets sold out, I think like aren't we sold out for so many years in advance or something like that? I don't know. Now, yes, you can see when the upper doesn't have as many people in it. I know, you know, back when we used to play, like it was hard work getting a seat. It was sometimes that, you know, even as a player, you couldn't even buy the number of tickets, you know, sometimes that you needed, depending on, you know, game circumstances and who we were playing, what time, all that. So I don't know, like, it just, I don't know. But I like the black and gold premise, it's gonna look cool. And now it makes sense why you don't put them at the bottom. You want it, you want to see everybody in the seats. You need to feel those, they gotta be filled. And matter of fact, when you go to the pit games, I believe they cover up like certain areas and sections of it that you can't even sit. I believe like they put like the banners or the team logos and the names and all that other stuff. So, okay, I'll agree. It makes a little sense. But they said, listen, listen, the waiting list, they say 25 plus year waiting list? That's a wow. Is that true? Ooh, I see why the resale market be going crazy. You can't, you can't 20, that's wild. You can't even get on the list. Ooh, wee. Hey, be careful on the resale tickets now. Y'all know some of them teams out there, they making it to where if they see other fans in those seats and they find that out, they go, you go lose your season ticket privileges and they go sell them, give them away. They go sell them, give them away, be careful now. You sure you don't do too many at too many times? Yes. Tell you what, check on down here. We go see who agrees, disagrees with having black seats. Let's go. We go put a poll, we got a poll right here right now. Now, we really want to talk about, I really need to chill here, but we'll talk about Cleveland, but now I can actually just go, the tangent about Cleveland. So the Browns may be trading their number six pick. Browns GM, Mr. Andrew Berry discuss potential plans for the number six overall pick in this year's NFL draft. It seems trading down as possible, although there's still a lot to be determined including who the Browns take if they stay at number six. Berry said this right here, he said, it really depends on the prospects available. I don't know what we'll find, I don't know if we'll find a trade partner, but I would tell you guys, I don't know that we're going to be picking at six at the end of May. And if we are picking six, I have no idea where we're going to, or what we're going to take at this point. So this is just me. Chad, do y'all think that this is a possibility of your guy or the GM, I don't know if he's your guy, he ain't my guy, Joe's guy. Of him trading this number six pick, right? Now the Browns need a tackle, offensive lineman of some sort, whatever that is. Now, with that being said, this is what I believe is happening. Okay, I think he just chum in the water. You know how like when you going shark hunting, or you going fishing for sharks or whatever it may be, you put out there the thing that most attracts them. Okay, and for sharks, it's blood in the water. Okay, now, maybe he's trying to see, you know, if there's some team out there willing to give up that six pot. Because you have to realize that the Browns got three picks in the top 39, so they got a six. They got a 24 and they got a 39. So, this is just me thinking out loud, okay? And I would assume the guy that they actually won at one, as they won is either one, not their period. Because he just said himself, we have no idea who that is. That's one. And I think that's one of the things that I believe is happening. That's one. Or two. They feel strongly about whoever it is that they want, that he's gonna be available at 24. So, why not put it out there at a possibility of trading the six if that can help you get something of greater value when you already feel like the guy that you want will still be there at 24. It's other teams out there that have a greater need for a higher position and may be willing to give up more value to get that spot. Like, I'm just saying, like when you put it out there, hey, what Andrew Berry is doing, we gotta watch this dude, okay? We gotta watch this dude, all right? And he ain't talking to me. He ain't talking to the fans. He talking to y'all other GMs out there, okay? He playing with y'all. He playing with y'all. Don't, hey, don't let him play with you like this. You understand? Don't do not, do not let him play with y'all like this. This is Cleveland, okay? This is the Cleveland rounds. And this is just me, like I said, I look at both sides. This is me spit ball and speed ball and butt. Like, this ain't like this new type Cleveland feel with them trying to say the same thing, have a, you know, have an actual coordinated, you know, effort and approach to things and, you know, him out here, just throwing stuff out there, you know, it's, it's seeming like they're getting smarter. And, you know, I just don't, I hope it ain't happening cause that's not the Cleveland way, you know, Cleveland don't smart enough, you know, they, they revert back, you know, like, that's just what they do. It's a reason that, you know, Cleveland ain't even won the AFC North since 1989. You talking about 1989 was last time they had an AFC North title. Gas was less than a dollar. Like, Chad, was he, was Joe even born then? Like, when was Joe born, Chad? He young, he young. Like, I might, I got kids his age, you know? I might even been a fan, like, I think I was, I might have been a fan back then. Let me see, 89, da, da, da, 89 was 89 gas less than, matter of fact, man. Joe, Joe, Joe was, Joe, Joe was born in 99. Nope, don't sound right. Nope. Joe was born in 89. I guess he was born the same year. He wouldn't have been able to see it or remember it though. You know, hell, when I started driving gas was, well, let me say legally driving. When I started legally driving gas was like 97, 98 cent, something like that, what was it? Listen, I got a story for you though. Let me begin with this. So I was driving, right? Well, like I said, legally driving. So when I was like 12, I had to be 12 max. My dad, he used to let me, let me drive the car. So it's how it all started, all right? My dad would let me drive when I was, I don't know, I was too young to even touch the pedals. So, you know, you just do the steering. You steer the wheel, he controls the pedal and all that. And, you know, that probably happened when I was like 10, nine or something like that, even younger, who knows? Who knows, whatever that may be, all right? Cause I was just too small to touch the pedals and he lets you do the steering, the driving and all that. He actually would let the wheel go, you know? Cause I would get nervous when he first started doing it. I'd be like, oh snap, like he gonna let the wheel go, you know? But anyway, I got to where I was like maybe 11 or so before I was able to like really start. And the first car I learned how to drive was a stick shift. Like back in the day when you, if you had a, you know, a stick shift car, it was cheaper. So it was a, you know, it was a stick shift. So by the time I was 12, like that was a, that was it. Like he actually let me drive. So the crazy part. So this is how it happened. My dad would get home from work, right? So when he got home from work, if he had forgot to play his numbers or get his cigarettes, y'all know how that go. When you a kid, like, hey, they ain't played the numbers, I got the cigarettes, you got to walk to the store. I walk to the store, you got to go take the numbers, you got to play the numbers. They already know who your mom and daddy is. So when you come in there to get them cigarettes, they already know, okay, yeah, that's so and so son, whatever, go ahead and give them the cigarettes. But if you come in there and you ask for a brand of cigarettes that ain't in there, you go, you know, you might get told on. Cause I was back in the day where, you know, the neighbors go ahead and pop on your whoop, yass. If you do something wrong, your mama didn't already gave them permission to go ahead. If you see anything, you let me know. And if I ain't around, you go ahead and you, you tap that ass. So that's, that's the error we in, right? So my dad gets home one day, I'm 12 years old, dude. He's like, hey, I need you to, I need you to go, play my numbers, give me some cigarettes. And he's like, take the car. I said, huh? He said, yeah, take the car, just make sure you don't hit nothing. I'm like, cool, okay. So I go, I'm like 12, dude. I'm going to play the numbers and get some cigarettes, you know, I ain't even lie. I was a little nervous. And just to think about that now, man, like, to actually let my sons go and be like at 12, hey, take the car, go to the store and get me whatever you go, get me at 12. That's, that's crazy. Like my dad was out of control. Hey, he had a lot of trust in you, but he was, listen, man, listen, I know some of y'all over there had dads that was letting y'all dry the whip when y'all ain't having liquor license. Like it's no way. Anyway, man, so the very first time I drive to the store, you know, I'm nervous. I take the right route to get there, the shortest route. And by the time I got comfortable, it was over with. Y'all already know what I was doing. I was taking the long way. I was going around the block. I was going past my homeboys houses, you know, that was in that three, four block radius, you know, so they could see me driving the whip and all that while they sitting over there, you know what I'm saying? Outside, playing in the grass, riding a bicycle, like little kids, you know, I'm out here driving. I'm a grown man out here driving. What are you talking about, bro? What are you talking about? I wasn't crazy enough to pick nobody up. No, I ain't, I ain't do nothing like that. But like that's, that's what I was doing, bro. Like that's, that's, that's what I was doing. And this is why Cleveland, like they ain't gonna never, I ain't gonna say, yeah, as long as it still is in the AFC, you know what I'm saying? Cleveland ain't gonna get another AFC title. That's all there's to it. So whatever you trying to do over there, Barry, whatever bait and snatch and whatever you trying to do it ain't gonna work. I done told on you, I done told on you, they know. If Joe was here, he would know. He would probably say something out of the ordinary, like y'all working together, y'all doing something smart. Like that's not happening. We know y'all do something good for a short period of time. And then it all flips transpires into something that Cleveland does, it's the Cleveland way. Yes, the Cleveland way. This is not the Cleveland way, you know? But it is kind of the approach because y'all give them hope. Y'all give them hope, y'all, you know, y'all gotta keep that fan base there. Like they're not, they're not smart enough to understand that it's really no hope here, you know? Like I don't, I would say I feel sorry for you, but I don't, I don't. Somebody gotta be the loser. And it's no reason that it shouldn't be anybody else, but a Cleveland Browns fan, you know? Dog pound, bark, bark, root, root. Y'all can't even speak the words. Like what is that? Oh goodness, bro. Like here we go stillers, we speak with words. Y'all go, root, root, root, root. And the dog don't even bite. Dog don't even bite. Listen, my guy, Kurt Cousins is the coldest around. I say my guy because he getting that money. That's, that's all he do is get money. He been getting money. Like that's all he do is collect. Kurt Cousins will sign a five year, $172 million deal with the writers. That in reality is a one year fully guaranteed, $20 million deal that contains an optional two year, $80 million. Now, oh, that's a combination. So the Falcons will pay Kurt Cousins 8.7 this season. The Raiders 1.3 million, Las Vegas will agree to a new quarterback fully agreed, 10 million roster bonus on the third day of the 2027 league season. Like I said, Kurt Derrillo's went out there. I don't know who his agent is. I don't know what's going on. But this is the 11th straight season in the NFL in which Kurt Cousins contract will be fully guaranteed, fully guaranteed. Maybe that agent needs to start doing something with the NFL, yeah, I don't know. Anyway, let me, let me go somewhere else. Like I said, I don't know who his agent is. I don't know who nine two. Listen, I don't know who it is, but I don't think it's so much as agent as it is the circumstances of like where he's signing these contracts at for these teams. So the Raiders are obviously selecting Mendoza. So everybody knows that they're going to be selecting Mendoza for their draft. So with that, when you look at it, they're obviously look, or to me is looking like, I would say that they're going to sit him and let him learn behind Kurt for a year. And then they'll go from there. I personally don't know. If this look or not, not the look, but if this plan is a good idea, I don't know if I like or dislike it, but I'll lean towards being a good thing just for a learning curve for Mendoza. And I believe that like this plan is wild. I think that's why it's 20 million guaranteed. So Kurt is like, cool, 20 million guaranteed, which means he may be, well, he's probably going to be starting, I don't know if he will, but I'm going to assume that he's going to be starting 20 million, that's a great deal. So Kurt's like, cool, let's do this. But since I'm doing this, I'm going to need y'all to agree to something. And I'm Kurt, I'm betting on me. Okay? And I'm betting I'm going to go out here and kill it. And I'm going to make you have to make a difficult decision of either letting me go and running with Mendoza or activating that two year, 80 million dollar option that could be worth what they say up to 172 million in five years. So I'm assuming the Raiders saw this as the best deal possible considering, I think last week, just this week, sorry, Aaron Rogers was linked to possibly going to the Raiders, but what do you just get? 20 million, Raiders gave Kurt 20 million, ain't no way. I believe that's something that Aaron Rogers would entertain for 20 million, especially after being over there with the Jets and seeing how that turned out. And now you're going to go to the Raiders that really, how many times did Geno get sacked last year? Like he ain't trying to deal with that for 20. Like, what are you talking about? So I just don't, I don't know. I like Kurt, I don't like him that much, but hey, I'm happy for you though. That's no question. Like, guaranteed money for the last 11 years straight, now I stopped and now a possibility of going in there and getting this plus picking up an option for two for 80, 40 a year. Listen, again, like I say, I'm just sitting back and I'm just thinking out loud. I think this is what Kurt was looking at. He's like, y'all picking up Mandoza for real, for real. Yeah, he ain't gonna be ready in a year or two, maybe three. He said, all right, I'm gonna go in here, I'm gonna get this money. I'm gonna play for whatever y'all want me to play for right now, but hey, on the back end, y'all gonna have to make it up. I'm gonna need that option. Smart man. And look here, man, if he ain't got to play, it's cool. He getting 20 this year, no matter what. Like, Kurt Cousins just calling Kurt Guaranteed Cousins. That's gonna be his new name. They got him, it's the name, brother.
