Strictly Anonymous Confessions

1429 - Diana has a Husband and a Very Interesting Play Partner

71 min
Apr 16, 2026about 1 month ago
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Summary

Diana, a married woman in an open relationship, discusses her year-long connection with a play partner she met on Tinder. The episode explores how she and her husband navigated infidelity, built trust, and established an unconventional open marriage with deep emotional connections rather than casual encounters. Diana's play partner has a unique dynamic of public teasing and delayed gratification that differs from typical arrangements.

Insights
  • Successful open relationships require foundational trust built over years, not months, and often emerge from couples working through infidelity rather than starting from scratch
  • Emotional connection and partnership-building are prioritized over casual sex in modern open relationship dynamics, contradicting traditional swinger culture assumptions
  • Public teasing and delayed gratification can create sustained attraction and intrigue that exceeds traditional sexual encounters, suggesting psychological elements drive long-term engagement
  • Couples who avoid rigid rules and maintain transparency about outside connections report higher relationship stability than those with strict boundaries
  • The absence of 'reclaiming sex' post-encounter doesn't indicate relationship problems if both partners have their needs met through alternative means
Trends
Shift from rules-based to trust-based open relationship models among millennial couplesEmotional intimacy and partnership prioritized over physical exclusivity in modern relationship structuresPublic sexual teasing and exhibitionism gaining acceptance in mainstream relationship discussionsTinder and dating apps becoming primary platforms for open relationship partner discoveryCouples therapy and honest communication frameworks replacing traditional relationship adviceDelayed gratification and psychological tension replacing immediate sexual satisfaction as relationship drawMarried couples seeking long-term play partners rather than one-off encountersNormalization of discussing open relationships in mainstream podcast media
Topics
Open relationships and non-monogamyInfidelity recovery and relationship rebuildingTrust-building in long-term partnershipsPublic sexual teasing and exhibitionismEmotional vs. physical intimacy in alternative relationshipsBDSM dynamics and dominance/submissionTinder for non-traditional relationship matchingJealousy management in open marriagesCommunication frameworks for polyamorous couplesReclaiming sex and post-encounter intimacyMarried couples seeking play partnersBoundary-setting in alternative relationshipsDivorce complications in international marriagesSexual health and relationship satisfaction
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People
Diana
Married woman in open relationship discussing year-long play partner connection and relationship dynamics
Kathy
Host conducting interview and providing relationship analysis and commentary throughout episode
Quotes
"We've both kind of realized that we need more out of ourselves than just being completely wrapped up in each other. We've known each other since we were kids, essentially. So we've always kind of relied on each other, but we also don't want to be codependent on each other."
DianaMid-episode
"At the end of the day, he's my person that I want to snuggle with in bed. He's my person that I'm going to go to if I have an issue. Like he's just my guy. He's my heart, my soul."
DianaMid-episode
"It literally took just brute honesty all the time and realizing that your words are going to hurt, but you have to work through the hurt to get to where you're understanding why you did the things you did."
DianaLate-episode
"I'm just so drawn to him because he's so not like anyone I've ever met before. It's the buildup to it. I just love his mind and how he's just different."
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Now listen, today I have on Diana. Diana was on previously. She called recently and talked about a new play partner that she had. And I was like, why don't you come on the show? She was like, yeah, I have tons of stories about this guy. I was like, cool. Her name is Diana. She called in, she was episode 504. It was named Diana Cheated on Her Husband. And now they're in an open relationship. But what we talk about on this episode is all about her new play partner. In the beginning, we talk about how her and her husband open up the relationship. There was cheating involved. We go over that a little bit. He cheated on her. She cheated on him. They were honest about it. They worked through it. They have a very open marriage. And it's not like the typical open marriage where a lot of times there's like some rules and regulations. There's really are no rules and regulations. They are both open to looking for other people that they have real connections with. I mean, that's how they roll. So she met a guy, a new guy. She met him on Tinder. He's super interesting. She got into their whole thing. He's got an ex-wife. He's not fully divorced. So that's like a complicated situation. He's really into fingering her out in public and teasing her. It took me a while to understand the situation that they have. Eventually, I do understand it. I think that she's like very into BDSM. And I think that there's definitely like a dom and sub thing going on here. And that's what she's into. The fact that she also has Oz been at home and she gets her needs met and she can meet anybody else. I think also plays a part in why she is down and interested and okay with this guy. Because it's like, he's an interesting guy. Wait until you hear his details and the whole story. There's one point of the story where I was like, oh my God, everyone just spit their coffee out. You'll hear it. Okay, you got to listen to the whole story. You got to listen to how it's all set up. I get the hotness of it all, but there's also like the side thing that it's like super interesting to me. I want to overanalyze it for her. She doesn't overanalyze it because she's a married woman and she's, you know, she's the needs that she needs from this guy. She's getting it's a hot tease and denial situation for her. She also talks at the end about a guy friend of hers who actually was the one who got her into BDSM when she was younger, how he moved into town. He's also in an open relationship and she's hoping to connect with him as well on the same. Well, on the side, that might be her new side guy, but her current side guy is super interesting. Their whole situation is super interesting and hot. Okay, you're going to get into it, but you're going to be, I don't know if you're going to be like me. You know, I was more interested in the dynamics and his life and how he rolls because it's interesting. There's that word again. Oh, and by the way, Diana sent me hot picks of herself over on Patreon. And she is very down to go into Discord and share more hotter pictures of herself like X-rated stuff over there. So if you want to chat with Diana after you hear this message, see her in all her glory. Join my Patreon, patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. Links to everything is in the description. I'm going to be right back on with Diana. Hi, Diana. Welcome back to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing great, Kathy. How are you? I'm good. So listen, Diana, you called in previously, maybe like last year sometime and you wound up having two episodes because your husband has a whole side thing. But really what your story was that was so fascinating is you wound up cheating on your husband. But what happened was he didn't leave you. You guys wind up working through it and then you wound up in an open marriage. Correct? Yep. Yes, that's where we're at now. So how long have you, because when we spoke at that time, you didn't have a full time side guy, right? At all. Correct, correct. I didn't have anyone. Actually, it was shortly after my episodes aired that I met my friend. I didn't meet him through because of the show. I met him as most modern day people do on Tinder. I met him in the fall. We started chatting. I didn't actually meet him in person for about a month. Just trying to get comfortable, trying to figure out if he was something that I was someone that I was interested in, like, pursuing a play partnership or whatever with. And the very first time we went out, we had gone to a Halloween thing with some coworkers of mine because my fear was like, oh God, if I go into a public setting with him and I don't know him. Then what do I do? I'm going to have some friends back up. He ended up fingering me on a hayride with everyone around me. Oh, is that the message you left on me where he's fingering you? He just likes to finger you in public. He just likes to finger me in public. That's apparently his thing. And I am here for it because it was exciting. Right. Other people don't know what was going on and you're just sitting there. Oh my gosh, yes, yes. It's not like a swinger's hayride, right? This is like a normal hayride. It was a normal hayride. It was like one of those like haunted hayride things where he did all the haunted attractions. It was dark. And you know, he had his hands around my waist and you know, just kind of went, went, where did. But like, where's your husband with all of this? So you're talking to him for a month. Now, are you telling your husband at the same time? Does he know that you're, you know, hitting this guy up to have a side guy? Yeah, my husband's fully aware. Like I gave it like a week or two of talking to him first before, hey, can I actually have a decent conversation with him? Is he worth actually bringing up to my husband? My husband's fully aware. Actually they've, they've met. We've all had breakfast together relatively recently and there's like plans of us like doing stuff socially. The three of us plus the possibility of us all playing together in the future. Right. My husband, I know that you did have to cut Queen fantasies. Last week spoke, you were trying to hook him up with one of his coworkers. I did not kind of happen. She's got some medical stuff going on and he just really wasn't interested in having that dynamic in his work world, which I totally get because dating in the work world is always weird. I guess. I mean, it happens though. What has he, you know, but so if not that girl, has there been anybody else for him? He has another friend that he's chatting with. They haven't done anything physical with each other. Like they go to movies together. They've gone to breakfast with each other. I'm fully aware of her existence. I ask about her at times, but at the same time it's always just a friend of my husband's. I don't really pay attention to it. And that doesn't bother you at all. I mean, I've seen your husband. It's interesting because you guys don't have rules like a lot of other people do. I mean, here's your guy going out with this girl and doing like very, you know, friendly stuff. But some people might find that more scary because what if there's an emotional bond being created in those kinds of scenarios? For us, it's like we kind of want that emotional bond. We don't want, we don't want to have just mindless play fun with people. We don't want to have that connection because I want to build a partnership with someone that like I can have a thing with for several years possibly. We're working on close to a year almost now with my play partner. I want that familiarity. I want that, excuse me, that deeper connection with whoever my person happens to be. And you guys are totally okay with both of you having those outside connections? Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, we've both kind of realized that we need more out of ourselves than just being completely wrapped up in each other. We've known each other since we were kids, essentially. So we've always kind of relied on each other, but we also don't want to be what's the term codependent on each other. So it just kind of works for us. Yeah, no, it's interesting because it's a very interesting setup. It's very much, you know, a one end of the spectrum compared to a lot of others, even other open relationships because I think the biggest fear would be like I said, to get a connection with somebody else and then maybe not want that primary connection anymore. Your primary connection, I mean, there was a time where you cheated on your husband, right? I don't remember were there like cracks in your marriage? Is that why it happened? There were. I did cheat, but it was it was more so I was coming out of my I just had babies. I've lost weight. I'm feeling really attractive now. I found someone in the fat community that I wanted to play with and I didn't ask for permission before just going ahead and doing it. But I mean, but you told your husband. Oh, yeah, yeah, I told my husband that's that's where he told me that he had had the affair when I was pregnant. Right. And so that's what I'm just wondering because are you a couple? I mean, you've been together from the dawn of time, like you said, you've known each other. I'm just trying to get a feel for your stability in your primary relationship between you guys because a lot of people I don't think would feel secure enough to allow their partner to play the way you guys do. So I'm just trying to get in your head about that. We've been through a lot of other stuff in our relationship outside of the place things that's really bonded us together. We may play, we may have connections with someone else, but like at the end of the day, he's my person that I want to smuggle with in bed. He's my person that I'm going to go to if I have an issue. Like he's just my guy. He's he's my heart, my heart, my soul. Right. So it's not like you're going outside of the relationship to get those kind of needs met, even though you want a connection, right? It's not a love connection. Absolutely. Absolutely. It's with my play partner. He's just someone like he loves going to the gym. I love going to the gym. He's incredibly open minded. So when I'm having a crappy day and it should happen to include crapiness with my husband, then I can just vent to my friend. And it's fine. I can also go days without talking to him and it's not going to be, oh my gosh, where have you been? I've missed you. I can't talk. I can't go days without talking to you like this. Like we have a healthy level of like distance of what our boundaries are for each other. Yeah. And now what about your play partner? Does he play with other people? Is he in a relationship? He he's divorced. He has told me that he's had other play partners, but I don't believe he has any others currently. He prefers to play with married couples, which is kind of how he found me. And he's, maybe he doesn't want that action. Okay. It's finally getting warmer outside. So warm that I actually just started to unpack my spring and summer clothes. And of course, every time I do that, I think to myself like, Oh my God, I need more stuff, but not just more stuff. I need good stuff that is not only reliable, but high quality too. And that's where Quinn's comes in. Quinn's makes high quality, everyday essentials using premium materials. Their men's linen pants and shirts are lightweight, breathable and comfortable. So they're perfect for spring. I think they have a whole new line of spring products to choose from. And the best part is their prices are 50 to 60% less than similar brands. 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It's honestly, the dynamic works perfectly between between not only like my partner and I, but my husband and my partner and I. It was a little embarrassing as I was telling my husband about him and the commonalities that exist between the two of them. Really? They have the same type of car in the same color. I mean, yeah, I can't. I can't one likes to fly airplanes. One likes to go skydiving. They both love going to ranges and like shooting guns. Like they're they're literally the same person, but just in different bodies. And of course, they like to pick on me because I have a type, but I'm like, none of these are sexual. None of this is my fault. Well, kind of that we do. We do on subconsciously are attracted to the same type, like even though we don't know it. You know what I mean? If you're a commitment, you're going to find the guy across the room that can't isn't available. And like people will say, oh, it's just a coincidence. No, it's not like we smell that shit. We're animals first. I do believe you probably do have a type and they're because and they're very similar. And that's why this guy stood out to you and it did last. I mean, here it is like a year later. You're with them obviously because it's been a year. It hasn't gotten complicated, right? Like you're you've been able to establish a relationship with him and it hasn't fucked with your relationship. At home at all, right? Like status quo, everything's the same. Your guys, your guy forever, your husband, did he ever get any kind of like jealous in the beginning of this new play partner relationship at all? I think he may have had some questioning like how far have you guys gone or is there someone that you're really like feel comfortable with? I think more so anything else. He was really concerned with my safety. And just like the type of guy I like is muscular is a little bit dominant. Like sometimes those guys can be a little bit much and he's just, you know, really productive of me. But yeah, I mean, I feel like there probably were a few times where he had felt stressed, especially me going out to a club. I went to a club a few weeks ago with him. Like late into the evening, my husband was essentially like, hey, you're going to have your fun. You're going to have just be safe. Keep me posted on your timing. I think his biggest concern during that was just the lateness of it because it was a Friday night after work. But I mean, we talk through when there is some level of stress, like we talk through talk through or we just give each other space to kind of feel it out within ourselves. Within ourselves before we talk. Yeah. Now, is he one of those guys? I forget exactly what we talked about the first conversations. He one of those guys that gets turned on by, you know, what you did before with the other guy before you came home. Not really. That's not at least at this point because we haven't gotten to explore reclaiming sex a ton. Because when I come back home, I'm usually dead tired. I just want to shower. I don't want to, I don't want to be touched. Yeah, that's interesting. I've heard that before and thought that that's like red flags because I always think it's like super important for those people to come back and connect. Yeah, I want the cuddles and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I don't necessarily get that from my partner. I want the cuddles, but it's, I also just kind of need to like de-stress from the, well, not really de-stress, but just kind of like energetically come back down from that before I'm able to do it again, Re-acclimate, re-acclimate into my daily life. Yeah, no, I mean, it's, listen, I love asking these same questions I ask everybody else because just because most people love the reclaiming sex, and that's a thing doesn't mean it's always there. And I've definitely talked to other people who don't have that afterwards. And it's always interesting because a lot of times that's the big turn on. But that, I guess, is maybe a big, you know, sort of way to realize that your guy really isn't into it. Because if not, he'd be like the minute you came home, he'd be super horny, why in the fuck you? Whether you're tired or not, you know what I mean? We've definitely done it in the past. Like years ago, we had a four-way with Friends of Ours, and I really remember that being super hot was the reclaiming sex because the guy couldn't make me come. Right, so you needed it. Yeah, I needed it. I was all hot and bothered and my husband knows what he's doing. So. Now, does it help your relationship with your husband? Like intimately? I mean, because you have, I don't know, thoughts of another guy too. Does it add to your sex life with your husband? It helps me. We have had talks about the three of us playing together and my husband will add that into conversations while it's just him and I. Yeah, yeah. And that turns me on. He'll use toys on me and himself. So like in my head, in the moment, I can think, hey, there's another person in here. If this is really erotic when it's really just the two of us. I'm very turned on by that. And there is the potential for it to happen in the future. I'm actually hoping for this later this summer. He's got some family from out of country that's visiting right now. And I've told them, I'm like, after she's gone, we're getting a hotel room. Right, the three of us, you and your husband. Exactly. Right. And now has your husband had sex with any other women? I know he's got that girl that he kind of hangs out with, but has it has there been any kind of sex? Because you do like hearing about him with other women. That's a fantasy of yours, right? Yes. He has not with the partner that he has, they've kind of made it an established thing that they don't want to have anything physical just because of medical stuff with her. But I'm sure there's flirting that goes on between the two of them. I just don't want to ask because I feel like that's weird to ask. What do you mean? I don't know. Like my husband asks if there's flirting and stuff that goes on. Obviously there is and I share. But honestly, I like giving him the space of being able to flirt with his other person and not have his wife over his shoulder reading his messages. Oh, what'd you say to her today? What'd you say to her? Let's just overbearing in my opinion. Yeah, I think you could get really lost in that if you're so focused on it. I think it's kind of cool of you and probably not just for him, but also for you that you just don't even deal. Like what do you need to know every little step of the way of what's going on? I mean, that takes a lot of trust. I mean, it obviously means you have total trust with him because you're not even involved in that. You know, I think it would be, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that you guys been together for so long and know each other for so long because I don't think a lot of couples would have that kind of trust. Absolutely not. This is definitely taking years upon years to build to this level. Honestly, like looking back at when my husband and I first started opening things up, I never thought it could get to this level of being so comfortable with it all, with our other people. Like literally having breakfast with my husband and my partner and we're just chatting friendly out in the open and no one's having an awkward moment at all. That was pure heaven for me. Right. And it's kind of crazy because here you are a couple who did have, you know, affairs cheated on each other, you know, and look at where you are now completely open. It is very, it is like a crazy transformation, but like a happy ending because it is where you came from. It is and it literally took just brute honesty all the time and realizing that your words are going to hurt, but you have to work through the hurt to get to where you're understanding why you did the things you did and just not being that person anymore. Right. And you guys are both completely over the affairs that you had or did. Yeah. Yeah. So now, all right, let's get to your guy. So, you know, you're going to be a kinder, you're talking to him for a month and then what goes down your first like what are all the naughty things you've done with him? The first time he went over to his house, now he lives in like a kind of like a gated community. It's very red sea. So he was very careful about me coming to his house because he's got old nosy neighbors. Is he an older guy? No, he's not. I don't know, 36 or so. Okay. So not really that old. He's like, okay, get to my house and park here and don't go to the garage. And I'm like, oh my gosh, like this is, this is giving me all the red flags right now. But once I got to like his house, I'm like, oh, okay, I get it. I'm fine. We played and on his couch and I was really, really hoping because two days after we played, he was going out of country for a month to visit his mother. And I really wanted it to leave a hickey on his neck. I really, really wanted to. Yeah, that's interesting. Probably a little twisted just to be like, hey, this, this is on your son. You don't know me, but hi. Yeah, yeah, totally. It's like marketing your territory like a dog peeing on your high. He ended up leaving a joyous bruise on my ass instead. Oh, so he did the same thing to you? Yeah, I didn't even get a chance to leave a hickey or anything, but he left a joyous bruise on my ass, made a store to sit for days, but I loved it in a really weird twisted way. Right. Yeah, we played that day. That was, that was close to Thanksgiving. It's really challenging because he lives like an hour and a half away. So our timings to get together are very slim. Our most recent get together, I went to a drag show with him. And while we were there, we were in like the back area. He was smoking. We were having a conversation with some random guy. I don't remember what his name is, but my friend was telling the guy about all the crazy things he's seen back here and how he's seen a guy go down on another guy back there. And while he's telling the story, he starts fingering me in front of this other guy. Right. Who has no idea. There's no idea what's going on. And oh my God, I love it. He's only hooked up once, but I mean, like most of the time when I'm with him outside of the breakfast, get together because that would have been awkward. He's all out at breakfast. He's just fingering in public and I love it. You've never, you've only had sex with him once? Yeah. In this whole year? Yeah. Really a year since Thanksgiving is like a six months or whatever? Yeah. Yeah. The first time was right around, was right before Thanksgiving, but I started talking to him at the end of August. Oh, okay. So you're just doing this thing, like your guy's thing. Okay. For some reason you don't go back to his house a lot. You just go out in public and he fingers down. At this point, he's dealing with issues with his ex-wife. What do you mean? So they're still technically married, but because they got married out of this country, the divorce has to take place outside of the country. So he, she has the ability to come to the house when she wants, but she doesn't live there. So he's very careful about having people over at the house. Right. But why don't you? I mean, you said he lives in a nice community. You know, he obviously has some cash. Oh, it's honestly, it's just a matter of like timing and having life line up. But I mean, those, okay, but what about sex in the car? I mean, I, because this is what I don't understand. This is a guy, you guys are out, you go to these clubs or wherever you go and he's fingering you and he's getting you all wet. And that to me sounds like hot foreplay, right? But like, how does it not wind up to full on sex in the car? I think he's just skittish. I don't know. Guys aren't skittish. I don't know. I've been hoping for that. And when he, he sent me home the night that we went to the club, he's okay. You've drank, you've sobered up. I'm going to stay here for a while. You go drive home. You have a long drive. I'll talk to you later. And I was honestly just, what? I get a T's and nothing else. That's what I mean. What are you kidding? I think that's part of his thing though. See, now I'm more interested because you don't really have that many naughty hookups with him. Like now I'm more interested in him. Okay. Because this is like a weird dude, not weird, weird. I put in quotes because you know, what's fucking weird? We're all weird in some way. But like this is like an interest. Let's use word interesting. I get a little obsessed with these guys that are like, have these kind of things because this is like a little bit odd. You know, most guys listening to this are like, okay, here he's got this girl, you know, he's into like married couples. So he's got one. He's got this girl. He does this thing. He's fingering her and then he's okay. Bye. I know. I don't get it either, which is why my, I'm just so drawn to him because he's so not like anyone I've ever met before. Because he won't fuck you? Is that what's different? No, no, it's different about event. It's, it's the buildup to it. I just love his mind and how he's just different because like normally it would be just, you know, we go fucking the car or something like that. And I think, I think he was trying to be like a good guy and make sure I got home safely and wasn't too out of it to drive home. I don't, I honestly don't know. No, but so I get why. So for you, I mean, listen, you have a guy banging you at home, right? It's not like you definitely need this sex. So there's something about the way he has this whole scenario set up, which is a very unique scenario. Most people do go all the way. It doesn't wind up be ending like that. But for some reason it works because it's kind of hot because it's, but so this is why I don't understand. So I'm sorry, Dana, but this doesn't make sense because you're like, Oh, when I get home, there's no reclaiming because I'm so physically exhausted. What do you exhausted for you? How to figure in you? You want more when you got home? That night, I got home up to what I am. Okay. So that's where I was just exhausted from the day and we, we've only gotten to do our fingering from two or three times in person. Most of our, most of our engagement is via text and the occasional like lunch at this point, just because our schedules are so messed up. 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