Juno Birch Is a Little Less Blue with Trixie

Hi, it's Trixie and I'm here with the I am H.O. In my homosexual opinion girls, would you like to say who you are? Oh my God, hi, I'm Darby and that's another one. I'm Alexis. We're here promoting the fact that we're here. It's so good to see you again. Oh my God, we have tea from back in the day. We have tea from today, tea from yesterday. We have hospital stories. We have live show set stories and we're gonna give it all. Wow. Yeah. Girl, I have been trying, by the way, Juneau Birch is here today. Oh, hello. Are we recording? We all, wow. This is your camera. This is your people. Hello. It is me, Katya. I have transitioned my pronouns and I was she, her. And I wore some shrubbery on my head just in honor for Katya. She fucking wishes she looked like this. Honestly, she might wear this outfit. She would definitely wear, queen. The unprofessionalism. I'm sorry. She might wear this up too, but she'd need how many pieces is this? This is about five. Okay, she might need eight. Yeah, but what's she gonna stick it onto? That's a really good point. These are like scrunchies. You know, when the hair wraps around the bobble and you tie hair up with it, she's gonna have to glue them on. Well, we were talking about, we were talking about your hair bleaching journey and you were saying that the stylist was trying to convince you to go natural for a while? I went into Tony and Guy many years ago when I was in university and I thought I'm gonna treat myself. I've never been in the salon before. I'd never been in the salon. I always boxed eye at home. Lotions and potions and experiments. Lotions and potions and sizzling and bubbling and snapping. And burning. And burning, yes. All that jazz. Did you ever get the burn on the scalp from the bleach? No, I've never had that. And I think I've never had that because I've been bleaching my hair for so long. What do you want? Who was that twink? I think that was Darby. I'm having dinner with her tonight. With her? Yeah. God. I know. That's sick. What about Alexis? Yes, she's coming as well. I just didn't know what did, is there only ever one trans woman at once in any public setting? Yes, when there's more than one. They have to start putting in deposits. Special bathrooms. Special bathrooms. Special bathrooms. But no, I've been bleaching my hair for so many years. I went into Tony and Guy. And then my hair was very thin because it, and the hair's naturally thin anyway, but it was bleaching it so much at that time. And they said, you're gonna have to grow out your hair or you're gonna be bald and keep bleaching it. And I said, I'm gonna keep bleaching it because at the time I was watching that movie, Tank Girl, have you ever seen the movie Tank Girl? With Lori Petty? Yes. And that sort of like shaved bits, stringy bits. I was like, I'll just rock that. I'll just do that. Yeah, this kind of post-apocalyptic head explosion vibes. And I think over the years wearing wig so much, I just, I kept getting like a little bald spot here. Oh, from like the cage pressure. Yeah. Of the wig cage. It would kill the hair follicles. And you just get a little one-slot of no hair. Yeah. And now you have no whole slots. Yeah, I think maybe I had one big cage on one day and then it was just all gone. Would you ever do bald? Would you ever do head shave bald fantasies? I have a little bit once. Did you feel glam or did you feel? I was smoking a lot of weed when I was younger and I was just a bit, I don't remember a lot of my life when I was about 17, but I shaved the whole entire back of my head and left a little bang. No, you fucking didn't. I did. So what did you do, curl this? Yeah. I didn't know what that was. Did you feel like you were eating? I felt like I was eating. I had like eyeshadow down to my cheekbones. Maybe you were eating. I was, I would sometimes do a tear. Okay. It sounds very Hollywood Boulevard. Yes. It sounds very. It's very a Hollywood Boulevard. I just walked around with a shopping trolley and good. Yeah. Yeah. You're on the stand up tour right now. Have you been playing out in Los Angeles a little bit? I'm not on a proper tour, but I'm on a bit of a tour. I mean, you kind of accidentally. You're on like a self appointed tour. Yes. So it's, I. Secret tour. I'm in a, yeah. I'm in a bit of a midlife crisis era. I know. So I've kind of quit drag. Well, I started to see. But is this drag? No. I don't know. I don't know anymore. As long as you stay away from your kids. Just stop grooming the kids. Yeah. They can keep away from me. Disgusting. I will say this. I was, we were hanging out two weeks ago. I told people on this pod that we went to see Lee Cronin's The Mummy. Oh yeah. And I, do you know, before we watched that movie together, I had never tried a devil. And I don't think I want to anymore. Do you not remember the bit with the devil? Oh, now I do. And the possessed girl is crawling out of the damp ceiling. Yeah. And then this woman and she just decides to go into a wine glass of deviled eggs. That was sick. Also the grandma, when she pulls her skirt up and goes like this. I was sitting next to her and she goes, it was like the best part of the movie for you. We were gripping each other's knees throughout the movie. Well, we were standing. Remember there was a D box was in front of us and those seats were like this. There was people that got up out of the seats cause they thought they were broken. They started moving and the people were like, no. And just left. And all of us just went, should we go in? Should we just go and replace those seats? Do they cost more than the normal seats? I think they do. I got them for another movie and I didn't like it. I wouldn't like that. It just is like, we were talking about like, if something in the movie happens, like a gunshot, I don't need the seat to go like, no, not in a public place. I remember I was, I went to see like a Ratatouille 3D, 4D movie ones. And when the rats were all running. Ratatouille 4D. I love Ratatouille. It's my favorite film. I watched it for the first time recently. I went to Disney and I watched it cause you know, when you go to Disney and you stay at the hotel, they have channels that just show Disney movies or whatever. So I watched Ratatouille. It was fine. I don't know why people are so obsessed with it. But I did like it. It makes me so hungry. There's something about the cartoon food in Ratatouille. Oh yeah. I think it's the music as well. The music. I like the French lady. You know what your hair probably looked like? It looked like one of those rats was pulling it out when you had that bald spot. Yes. No, we're more of a business, I'd say. Yeah. But anyway, I went to these 4D movie of Ratatouille and they, there was like a weird pipe underneath the seat and they shoot air through the pipe. So it goes, when the rats are running underneath, but it didn't feel like rats. It just felt like a pipe smacking my ankles. And it wasn't very nice. And I don't think I'd do that again. Also, it's stunk. It's stunk. Smelly, AC, you know, stuffy sort of old machinery. Yeah, I don't know. I just want to watch the movie, but I don't even like movie theaters that much. Do you? When we were going to hang out and you were like, let's go see Lee Cronin's The Mummy, I said sure. And Katya was really pissed that we didn't invite her. I know. I saw her last week. She was a bit annoyed. She was like, no, I've not seen it. Do you want to see it? No. She's upset. And then I thought it was here. And then she's hospitalized. I do like... And what if she almost died and you could have included her and you didn't? Well, I got to be here today, so... You're kind of the her. I think if people squint and they're scrolling really quickly, they could think that you're her. Would you take that as a compliment? A compliment, yeah. You know, I went to Turkey recently and got my teeth done and I showed them a picture of Katya's teeth and I said, I want these. Girl. I know I didn't. She, how is it going? Cause you said last time I talked to you, you said they were hurting. So I don't know if I'm supposed to be in this much pain, this far down the line. Oh, that's good. It's so sensitive. Do you think you're just so British that your body's rejecting perfect teeth? Yeah, I think so. Your body's like, no, no, no. They're like, these sweet cons are never going to be. Ha, ha, ha, ha. But they look incredible. Thanks, you. Cause you used to wear the flipper. Every time I was on camera, I even started wearing them just... To the market. To the market. Ladies, do you ever clip in your six hair scrunchies and put in your flipper and go down to the Tesco? I, I, listen, you know what? This is what you asked me, the embarrassing. I'm actually 32. People think I'm so much older than I am. I didn't say that. No, I know you didn't say that. Who thinks you're old? Everybody, but I think it's my voice because I sound a lot older than I am. Also your dress. I do dress a lot older. I guess what I listened to today on the way in here cause I knew you were going to be here. I love your purse, by the way. That is so cute. Isn't it gorgeous? Doll kill. Isn't that the most gorgeous, perfect color of purple you've ever seen? The color and how like monochromatic it is. I like a periwinkle mixed with like a lavendery purple. It looks like a purse in like a video game or a cartoon purse. I want to bite it. Yeah, I want to bite it too. It's like, oh, it's great flavor. Yeah, it's Laffy Teppy vibes. I was driving it today and I've been trying to relax more. So my assistant, you know, Brandon, he listens to classical music in his car. And I always think it's so funny that he drives around listening to classical music, but he loves it. And I was listening, I was like, I want something instrumental and calm. I put on the Sims one soundtrack in the car. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. It's so good. Do, do, do, do, do, do. I was gonna play what I was listening to. I knew I was gonna come here and talk to you. And I was like, what am I listening to in the car? And I just thought it was so funny because I know you love that music as much as I do. This tea, wait. Wait, here we go. Driving through Burbank. Rihanna. Here we go, here we go, it's gonna kick in now. Everybody, clap your hands. It's so good. I wanna murder someone one day to that song. That song, it's called Mall Rat. It's from the Sims one soundtrack. It's so good. And the strings start and you go, how could this get better? I know. And then the flute happens and you're like, oh my God. I know. Do you know that they use a lot of Sims three soundtrack in reality TV? What? Yes, I will sit there and watch it. I'm gonna sit there and watch it. I'm gonna sit there and watch it. I'm gonna sit there and watch it. I'm gonna sit there and watch it. Yes, I will sit there and watch Mamma Joon not from not to heart or I will watch. I will watch something like reality TV. It's usually those like, you know, when people talk like that, that kind of reality. Yeah, cause you love Thousand Pound Sisters. I love Thousand Pound Sisters. Amy's eyes are looking forward once more. Girl, Amy, you wanna talk, can I say, I have a lot of feelings about this. Okay. Because I don't wanna get in trouble from TLC, bravo, bravo, bravo. Six seasons into a hit show and the storyline is that none of them have money. I know. Can we get the girls paid? It feels like a human rights violation. It's the same with a lot of reality TV. It's the same on Mamma Joon. And on Housewives Now. Everyone's broke. Dorit is broke. Everyone's broke, yes. But I just feel like once they fixed her eye, I was like, wait a minute, five seasons into this, it's dawning on her now that she could get her eye fixed. Well, she was told when she was younger that she could never get it fixed. Yeah, I remember that. And wasn't it something to do with like cat shit in? Yes, in utero. I believe it had something to do with exposure to cat feces in utero. Let's take a break. I don't, you know, I'm not, listen, Katya's hospitalized. Yeah, cat shit in the eyes, in the bowels. She's done. They fixed Amy's eye, she looks amazing. And now looks, I never thought she looked that much like, to Tammy. And now I'm like, oh, they are sisters. Yeah, I got so used to her looking like a little baby chick. Yeah. It kind of is like, it's a personal. It changed her looks so much. She looks fabulous. She looks amazing. My bills are paid. She looks great, congratulations. And she got married. Oh. The spooky wedding. Oh yeah, the spooky wedding, I saw that episode. I was. I didn't think Tammy was gonna show up to that. Yeah, I feel like they have, they, I don't know. I know that sometimes she gets a little, she's the crier of the family, Amy for sure. And she always feels like none of them support her. Yeah. And sometimes I'm like, they don't. They're not supportive enough to her. No, I think they just sort of, I can kind of relate with that a little bit because in, not necessarily in my family, but in my sort of friend group, no one tells me anything because they know I'm in La La Land. Like I'm kind of, we'll say something stupid. I'm a bit like dumb in that way. So I kind of relate with her a bit because she kind of, she doesn't get told things or that, oh, Amy's doing this again. Do you know what I mean? It was like Kelly, Kelly Mantle. Like touring with Kelly Mantle was like, oh, it's like me and Katya. And then that's our, that's our parakeet over there. Like she just, why tell her? She's not gonna, you know what I mean? You know, we were talking the other day, me and Kelly about sounds that we really don't like. And one of mine was that I cannot stand it on British Airways when they serve the rice pudding and everyone wakes up from a nap and they start eating it with like congestive nostrils. And I was doing an impression of it and she just started launching wet wipes at me. I feel like that's her thing when she doesn't like what you're saying, she just throws wet lights at you. Yeah, or she just glug glug glugs. She just glug glug glugs, yeah. You still off the sauce kind of, right? You're on a, you're on a light drinking reprieve. I didn't intentionally stop drinking, but I can't casually drink. Me neither. That's the problem. Yes. Well, I don't want to say drinking problem, but I'm saying if we're going to go, I'm not that bitch who's like, should we just go for one? That's not gonna happen. No, no, no, no, no. If I'm going to a restaurant for a gorgeous carbonara, I'm not going to order a white wine with it. I'm going to have a Coca-Cola. But if we do go on to the white wines, we need to go out to a club. I mean, we will be out all night. We went to eat together and we went to an Italian restaurant and I will say, maybe I'm getting to an age where I don't want the alcohol with, I don't want alcohol with dinner. Not really. I don't want a full belly. I'll have an alcohol before dinner, but for the meal, I want like, die coke or something. Yes, I'm exactly the same. And if I'm going to drink, I'm like that then we're not going to a restaurant. Then we can maybe go get something and get like a french fry or a finger food. But we're here to drink. Yes, exactly. I'm exactly the same. I used to drink quite a lot when I would work on stage. You really did. I would pound the fireball before I went on because I didn't need to be switched on as much. Sure. On stage because it was like lip syncing or you know, that sort of stuff. Now that I do stand up comedy only, I cannot have a drink before I go on stage. I agree because I feel like comedy is all about being faster than the audience. Yes. And you're slowing yourself down. Yeah. But I will say when I was lip syncing, sometimes a little bit of alcohol gets me in the zone where I genuinely do a better job. Yeah. No, absolutely. A few cobbler, Pinot Grigio's. You will do work in. You will go out there and feel that music in a way that actually helps the performance. You get goosebumps on stage as your lip syncing. From your own performance. From your own performance. From your own fucking show. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. Seasonal entrepreneur and the sole owner of Summer. That's right. 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But I was scared to do it because I built this sort of branded face, the alien face of the glasses and the wig and the marigolds and all that sort of thing. And I was scared to sort of step away with it because I felt people would be disappointed. And then there was one show that I did on the UK tour last year and they had no AC. It was 30 degrees Celsius, which is boiling hot inside the room. And I just turned around and I said, I'm not doing it. I can't get in drag. So I did the whole show out of drag. And I loved it. People don't realize when you do these special effects colors, you can't sweat. It's not an option. Oh my God, you and I did a shoot for YouTube for Pride two years ago. Oh my God. And the air conditioning was like non-existent. I know. And I tried to be cool about it. And I was like, you guys, I'm fine. And you, I don't know how to say this, but they were maybe more scared of me on set. Oh yeah. So I turned to them and was just like, she's not gonna say this cause she's too nice. She's like special effects blue. You can't even sweat. If she sweats, she'll probably have to wipe it off and start over. You can't, when you put talcum powder on top of that blue makeup, if there is a slight bit of wet or anything cracks, you can't redo it. It like freckles almost. Yes, it does. It congeals. And if you're beauty blending it on and you're already sweating through the pores, it will take it back off. It takes it off. Whereas when it's skin colored, well also the stuff you were making, you were using foundations mixed with pigment to make the foundation. It's not like you go backstage and have a jar of it. No, but I did do that once and that was a mistake. Oh really? Cause it's strong. You premixed it? I premixed it. I melted it into a tupperware and then like put it in the fridge to like set it like butter. For taut, this is the first taut that I did. And the smell that came off, it was just like, the waxy. It was like bleachy, mushroomy, ceminy. It was just like, and every show, this is back when I was drinking on tour I'd be like putting it on the, like dry heaving, putting it on. And on that tour, this is like five years ago now, I was performing in venues that barely had any AC, like rock clubs. And it was, and I was in course, it's pads and everything. I was on my deathbed. Well, you're also wearing, cause you're blue, your costumes were, it's sort of like the wig, not with the wiggles, it's Sesame Street where it's full body fabric coverage. But this was like, this was like, this was like during the attack of the stunning tour. So this was like the space, the alien space age era, whereas in space suits. Like PVC. PVC fully, I would have tights on underneath a full foil fabric cat suit that was also lined with a sweat soaked pad. Cause it was like nude illusion. So you would see the skin through the PVC and your wigs are huge. How did I always wonder how you function with the glasses on? Cause we dressed up as you once together. You were working at Fubar. Yes, you did get Fubar. And Lady Red was on the door. Yeah, was it pre COVID or was it? It was pre code, it was 2019. Yeah, it was maybe right before COVID or something. Yeah. Yeah, we, yeah, Lady Red was on the door. And I think Mario was DJing and you were Ray LaTrey's show. Ray LaTrey's show, yes. And I was dressed as you cause we did a video together. So then we went together and I remember I was standing there in your outfit and like the head wrap and everything. And do you remember this? The guy came up to me, the stage manager and said, Hey, just so you know, we're starting in five. And I said, okay. And then they walked away and I was like, I guess I'll go tell her cause he thinks I'm you. Yeah. So then I went up to you and I had no idea what time stage time was at that point. So I was like, whoo, a film was going. There was like this weird, there wasn't a stage. It had like a, it was like a step up platform. Yeah. It was not like proper stage. Phil kept going to me, be careful of the set, be careful of the set because I was already a little bit tipsy anyway. Right. And I was, I'm gonna be fine. I'm gonna be fine. And I went straight up there and completely put on. Do you remember me falling over? Oh yeah. There's something very, I always feel like as a performer, if you warn me about a step on stage, I get really defensive. Like you think I'm an idiot. And then you fall over it. And then I fall. Like there's always some part of me that's like, you don't have to tell me. I've been doing this 17 years. I know, fall on the floor. It must be nice not painting blue because the times I've done that, you have blue ear holes, blue nail beds. Well, the thing is the amount of hotels and airbnbs I must have stayed in and left blue on everything. The thing is that when you shower it off, it doesn't, there's not really blue water everywhere. It's more the towels. You think you've got it off. But you don't. You scrub with a towel and you're like, oops. You know, but I don't miss it at the moment. I'm enjoying being able to write comedy as me. Yeah. Rather than as like, she's an alien from, da, da, da, da, you know what I mean? I know, I totally get it. And I just feel a little bit like when I started that so many years ago, I felt like I was just in my own lane. And now when you go to dragcon, there's so many pastel blue aliens, sixies, drag queens that I'm just kind of like. They really are out there. Yeah. It's fine. I mean, I'm sure it doesn't bother you, doesn't it? No, not at all. Let them live. No. I don't really feel precious about people when they have like a big black and white eyes or something and people say it's like me, I'm like, I don't think that. I don't care. No, I don't see myself in anyone else. No. You will never be me. They'll never be you. But what was I gonna say then? I was gonna say, the only thing that does bother me is when somebody copies my drawings or artwork that books me. Are you doing illustrations again? I'm on a, I kind of go through phases of in and out doing artwork because I feel like when I'm doing stage work, it's a different person to when I'm sat at home and don't wanna talk to anybody and just draw a picture. Do you know what I mean? You watch TV and like, yeah. I'm comfy. I don't answer my phone. And also I can't sculpt with them. Oh my God. Do you miss doing your sculptures? Yeah. I think, you know, David, my ex David is, I think the world's premier collector of Juno Burch sculptures. He probably has like eight of them. I know. They're amazing. Thank you. They're so cute. How did you ship those all over the world? They look so fragile. This was going back even before I started doing drag, I think. Yeah, this was like- Because that was how I paid my rent. Was making sculptures? Was making sculptures because I would spend like seven days just locked in my bedroom making miniatures that were in little baggies. Which is a sign of mental illness. Yes, I know. When you say it like that, when you say it like that, I'm like, is she okay? No, I'm not okay. Is she gonna jump from there? I've never been okay. But do you know what? It makes me money. Yeah. You did really, it was very exclusive. I feel like you would put one out like monthly and David would buy it. Yes. It was like always him. I know, but I remember seeing his name on so many receipts and I was like, who the fuck? He's David Silver. Yeah, he loves your art. It's my new sugar daddy. Yeah, totally, totally. But no, I used to sell them quite a lot of money. And I know David bought quite a few, but like they sold really quickly. And I know I've always, I've launched a new merch website, JuneauBurchLive.com. JuneauBurchLive.com and people. It is solely just my artwork on merchandise. That's great. I'm not doing as much like drag merch, where fans make art and put it on shirts and stuff. I'm just doing just things that I've done on my iPad or sculpted or whatever. And you know what I'm working on at the moment? Tell me. Bag charms. Bag charms. So you know like that little vinyl plushie that you get, like a LaBooBoo, like something like that. I wanna do my sculpture heads, but in like a little furry sort of like. Oh, wow. Off that. And they all have their little bios and little characters. Storylines. Yes. That's fun. So I'm working on that at the moment and just looking for like manufacturers and stuff like that. So. I have a piece of merchandise from me that I love. It's your white shirt and it's a black illustration. It has you on it, but it's a lot of other stuff too. I remember when I first came to stay with you in LA in 2019 and you had that shirt on. It was a really, really old shirt. And I remember looking at it like, how the hell is that so white? And you were saying that you put bleach in the washing machine. Girl, you gotta get into it. When I tell you about bleach, let's take a break. Are you like, are you kind of like Danny DeVito when always sunny when he goes through the quarantine and he just smothers himself in bleach? I'm like Danny DeVito in everything. When you have white clothes and you put bleach in the wash, that clothes will come out whiter than you've ever imagined. But what about the ink in the rest of the fabric? Does the bleach not make the black ink? No. No, it'll just do the natural fabric. I should be a bleach expert at this point. You shouldn't I, oh my God. But I mean like my white socks, and I wear a lot of plain white t-shirts because I dress like a sim. I dress like a two normal. You're the randomized button. Totally. And my white t-shirts, you gotta use bleach. White sheets, your white pillowcases and stuff? You probably don't wear white pillowcases. Why? Well, blue. I don't know that since September last year. Maybe now, but maybe not anymore because I had to wash the sheets in the Airbnb because I shot myself in the bed the other day. A couple of weeks ago, yeah, and it got on Phil's leg as well. He's in here. I had to make a comment here and watch it. He said no. Listen, no, no, Phil can answer. He's probably out to the really fuming that I told you, but it was that kind of... Phil! Did you know shit on you? Okay. So never mind. It was, I mean, I was very, very ill. I was drinking Pep de Bismol like so much. And it was just so... It was horrible, but it was leaking out of me. Sure. I was nearly... After the watermelon incident. No. Oh, wait, you got food poisoning. I got food poisoning from the sesame chicken. That's right. Open sesame. I didn't know this. Pep de Bismol makes your shit black. It does. It's the... I thought I was internally bleeding. No, the active ingredient is like bismuth, something that makes your poop black. Pep de Bismol's amazing. I did save my life. It... I like the little tablets that you get. The tablets for tour are fierce. I sent some your way the other night. They taste kind of good. The tablets taste kind of good. Yeah. Pep de Bismol tastes different here than in the UK though. In the UK, I think it's more minty. You got to mix it with a little bit of gin. Ooh. Ooh. Pussycurtle. Ooh. Love the color. See, it's float on top. The color's beautiful. Yeah. The color's really beautiful. Whenever I did pink makeup, that was my inspiration. It's a great color. It's very blue. Blue pink. It's very bubble gum yellow. Don't wear the lipstick because your teeth will look yellow. Not you anymore. Not anymore. The teeth look incredible. You're just in constant pain. I'm on a diet of Tylenol right now. How many did you take a day? Paracetamol. Maybe like four doses, three doses a day maybe. How many you're allowed to. But do you know what I think it is? I grind. I, when I'm on stage or I'm doing something, I clench my teeth. And I think that pushes the crowns a little bit maybe. Think of all the gender affirming participations in medical field you've experienced and teeth was the one that got you. Yeah. I know it hurt worse than getting my dick turned into a vagina. That did hurt that much actually. That's a credit to your surgeon. I know Dr. Bellringer. That's right. You were telling me his name. His name is Dr. Bellringer. Dr. Bellringer. He's a sweetheart. Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Do you know what he said to me? I remember I went in for a checkup because I had to go back down to London. You know, they check your woman. He said, do you know what? You make a really great woman. And it first I was like, is this pervy or is this nice? But I thought it was lovely. I think I'm sure after the experience you had with him there's a high level of intimacy. He probably just feels very comfortable with you. He's seen me inside out. I don't know how much more familiar you can get with somebody. I know. Do you have a video of the surgery? No. Okay, well. No. Whenever I have a surgery I always like weirdly go home and wish I could watch a video of it. No, no, I wouldn't want to see that. No, even when I had my teeth shaved down I didn't want to see what they look like. Oh yeah, people tell me they go in the mirror and they like in the middle of their teeth surgery they go to the bathroom and see their teeth and freak out. I did do that. Did you look at the mirror? I don't remember it. I was that traumat from the pain. I don't remember looking in the mirror. But I had these, they send you home with like a temp in and then they fit your actual- Because they make them overnight or whatever, yeah. 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So, Denifil is the generic version of Viagra. Viagra is a registered trademark of Vietris Specialty LLC. Hymns is not affiliated with or endorsed by Vietris. I always was laughing because we would make fun of you for smoking cigarettes and having an asthma inhaler. And maybe some of the counterintuitive process there. And then you're finding out magically you don't have asthma. Yes, so I got diagnosed with asthma when I was maybe like 23. Okay. And I had a really bad chest infection so I went to the doctors and they just were like, we're gonna do an asthma test on you. My lungs was so weak from the chest infection that you breathe into the tube, you're like this. And cause my lungs were weak, she just went, okay, you've got asthma. Is this the thing where they try to make, is it the ball? You don't need to blow that thing in the ping pong ball. Yeah, yeah, it was like that. I've seen that on television. And then I got the steroid inhaler and the blue inhaler and I used that for many, many, many years. And my chest was always just wheezy and shit and... Albuterol, is that what it's called? What do they call? I don't know, is it the chemical? It's the steroid. I don't know. So then you were telling me the other day that the inhaler was essentially keeping you needing the inhaler at a certain point. I think so. Psychological warfare. I think so. And they kept doing asthma checkups and they were like, you need to use your inhalers. I'm like, I've not used my inhaler in five months and this is the best my lungs have ever felt. Right. And they were like, okay, stop using it then. Love that. Also, when I'm in Menjaro. Okay. And apparently that reduces inflammation in your lungs. It does. I am on some kind of one of those because rheumatologists are using it for arthritis. My rheumatologist said that people who are on it are going off their... Some people are going off their arthritis medicine because the anti-inflammatory side effects are so profound. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. I had to stop taking it because it made me so sick. Really? Those shots made me so sick. I was the same. I kind of went on, I kind of did it because when you take a lot of hormones, you put on weight so quickly. Yeah. So I did it because of that. I kind of like a bit of a booby and a bit of a bum bum. And it was making me dead skinny in the waistline, in the hip line. Oh yeah. It's a trade-off, right? It's like, I feel like, and also the face, I feel like most people's faces look really pretty with something, little something. Yeah. I look like I've had cheek filler. You do? Oh yeah. You were telling me that people are thinking... I've never had cheek filler. When I saw you for the first time a couple of weeks ago, I asked if you had maybe had a special trip to the dentist or something because you looked so... But maybe it's the last drinking. No, it was the sesame chicken. I'd come off the ozampic because of the sesame chicken. I was like, this has snatched me so good. I should see the restaurant, not for food poisoning, but for unrealistic body standards. Yeah. I went off the one goby in the manjarro and I just started having sesame chicken once a week, blowing my ass out. Black diarrhea. Black diarrhea. Dribbling. I have a question about doing stand-up. Okay. You go out there and do... I'm trying to think, one of the reasons you pivoted to your normal look is because the audience, if they know nothing about you, you have to explain. You have to kind of explain. Or you just make a joke of it. You just be like, you're all like, what the fuck is that kind of thing. But I didn't like doing that because I felt like, I felt like when I was dressed as the big alien costume, I needed a big performance with it. So to just sit there and just do stand-up comedy just felt a bit like I'm doing all of this look just to chat, you know. I totally relate to that. I felt like I needed a song, I needed a number, I needed something, some a bit of Liza Manelli, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I think we all need a little bit of Liza Manelli. Yeah. What are we gonna do when she dies? I don't know what we're gonna do. Probably we're gonna do what we do when Katya dies, just hang, just celebrate. Yeah. Ding dong, the witch is dead. I have a question. When you have all these things clipped on your head, you call them bird nests, right? Yeah. Do you ever, whoosh, and then they just fly off? You don't have to, I mean, are they expensive? No, five pounds from Amazon. Good deal. I know, I've probably got about 35. No, I'm not joking. Do you ever just keep putting them on? Oh yeah, but they start to discolor. Oh, from like where? No, I think one of EZ's hairspray, dry shampoo, cigarettes, bird shit, you know. Like, I feel like they start discoloring because somebody was around my house recently and they were like, oh my God, why do you have so many? Because I had them all lined up. I was about to give them all a bath and dunk them all in and anything. What are you cleaning with, oxyclean? No, just shampoo and... Oh, like, yeah. Are they human hair? No. Okay, so you've got it. I like plastic hair more than human hair. I don't like human hair. It's easier. And they came around, they looked at the lineup of all the birds nest, they went, oh, oh my God, you've got them all different shades. Well, because they were just dirty. It's not a gradient on a purpose. No, this one's great. Because, you know, I went out partying in this one. This one's green because, you know, it fell off in a pond. I don't know. What, you used to do this thing, when I first met you, you had like a... You did like the scarf wrapper on the head? Out of drag. Yeah. Yes, I... That was kind of your day look vibe. Yeah, I like doing it with this a bit. You know, sometimes if he's a bit too, too crusty, I'll just wrap a big turban around it. Yeah. All right. Please be careful. Do you ever remember when I first ever walked into the Trixie Motel? Oh, when you broke something. In the alien room and I smashed the bedside table lamp. You did. First thing. First thing. No, what was I going to say then? I feel like I've got this thing that I've diagnosed myself with. Oh, great. Called small... Transgenderism. Yeah, maybe. I go back. I'm just kidding. I know it's like a small head in security. You think you have a small head? You've probably never seen me with like wet, flat hair. Oh, is it like a chihuahua? But it's like at the back of my head, it's like so small. It's like pepper from American Homestory. Let me see. It's really... Oh, wow. Yeah. Where is your brain? I know. It's in my nose. Crazy. But I hate it. So I feel like I have to always have something. Something. Something big on my head. I remember many, many years ago, I tried doing like a long straight... Did you feel it? No. I hated it. I hated it. I felt like my face looked too big for my head. Yeah. You could do the Amanda thing where you kind of... She wears like a lot of half-hares, I think. Who's Amanda? Amanda LaPour. Oh! Cause she's also that super high-lift blonde. Do you know what I mean? Oh my God, yeah. Was she... Does she use some of her natural hair in the front? Yeah, I think she wears it. Cause I read her book, Doll Parts, and she was like, I don't even go get the mail in my building without sunglasses, lipstick, and a headscarf. Yeah, well, I heard a story about her in Birmingham. Somebody who booked her in the UK decided to put her on a megabus. Amanda LaPour on the megabus? You do not put Amanda LaPour on a megabus. Get her the PJ. No! The private jet. These people like that that should not be on certain public transport. It's criminal. See, that sounds kind of discriminatory when you say it like that. Yeah, it is. People like that shouldn't be on public transport. What do you mean by that? What do you mean by that exactly? Those transgender women, ew! Ew! You know what? You were one of them in the girls' bathroom. I think, I think, I'll do one better. All queer people should be exempt from public transit. Right? Yeah, I'm happy with that. I used to take the bus all the time in drag because it was just like, I didn't have a car, I needed to get around. You're, when you're the biggest freak on the bus, people mostly leave you alone. Pause, pause, pause, pause. You got the bus in drag? I used to all the time. To go to Hamburger Marys. Wait, in what city? Milwaukee. Girl, I'd be on that bus in full drag with my suitcase with my stuff for the show. No. People would, when you're that on the bus in Milwaukee, people wouldn't even like eye contact with me. I was probably a bit scared of you in a way. Oh my God. Nobody would seat in the seats by me. No. Yeah, and it was nice because I could just, usually what I would do is, I would get myself to the gig, and then once you're in drag and the bartenders are closing up and stuff, you're like, can somebody drive me home? You can suck her off a ride, like, oh, suck off a ride home. You could, you could, you could leech off a ride home, but I would get myself to the gig. Yeah. I feel like in the UK, we all sort of don't get ready at the venue. No one gets ready at the venue. That's, yes, I noticed that. And people, I noticed people kind of go out in one look and one hair too. That's kind of the vibe. Yeah, then we do one, one look for the whole, well, I know there's a lot of queens that do variations if they're doing different numbers, they'll make a change, but I feel like UK in a nutshell drag is just sort of, we just live in it. Yeah, it feels more like New York drag in that way. Where like you leave the house in character and you commit to the look till you go home. Yeah. I think that's fine. I mean, the UK must be so proud of you. You've gotten so famous. And I feel like you feel so British and they must feel so like into you. Maybe. Like gay people, I'm not saying you're, you know, I'm going to be on the next, you know, pound coin, but I'm saying like, the gay people there must be like, you must be like there, I don't know what you would have. Are you like in Alvira there? Kind of. Yeah, maybe kind, like a mascot. Yeah. Yeah, but I kind of, I get, so I get recognized on the street now, but people don't shout certain things. Pause. No, now it's Mac. Oh, from your videos. That's kind of scary. I mean, little makeup tutorials. And somebody said to me, when Juno Burch says Mac, she sounds like a duck quacking. Oh yeah, I hear that. So I've just sort of ran with it. And Mac, I love it. Well, you're also yelling Mac and then slamming your face. It, well, I've got to get away. There's got to be a way for people to watch my videos. You know, it's like, who is this ridiculous tranny? Sorry, transsexual on this video, slamming your head on the table. If you are transphobic, you're like, oh good, you know. Yes, she's hurting herself. She hates herself. That's what we want. You're bringing something to the table for everybody. That's how I feel when I do stand up comedy as a trans woman, I will bash the shit out of trans women and myself to the point where the transphobes in the audience are like, yes. She gets it. I always say that gay people and conservatives, what we have in common is that we hate gay people. Yeah. That is so true. It's like so true. Oh my God. But going back to what you say. You're mentally ill. I'm like, I agree. Going back to what you were saying about being in the UK and being very British, I feel like when I come to America, people want to book me more and I sell a lot more tickets for shows than I do in the UK. And I feel like people see me as a bit of a cartoon character here. I agree. Compared to like the UK. Because you're normal there. I'm kind of normal there. You're just like a... In Manchester. Like I come here and I feel like people, when they meet me for the first time, I think it's their real voice. They kind of a bit like, is she? I did get that recently. Somebody went, I didn't Juno Birch actually talk like that. I thought it was a character voice. What did they... This is the real me. Like you have a secret... You're right. Maybe it's an American accent or something. It's me. My name's Juno Birch. I'm from Manchester. Any relation to Simon Birch? I don't know who that is. The movie Simon Birch with Ashley Judd. I know Thor Birch. Simon Birch is a film about a little person. Let's take a break. I don't know. I can't do this anymore. I can't do this anymore. I can't do this anymore. I just wonder, in Manchester, are you the Beyonce of Manchester now? No, no, no, no. I wouldn't say so. They don't have like a mural of you in Affleck's. They don't have like a something, you know? No, I don't even get booked for Manchester Pride. They're embarrassed of you. Yeah. I don't get booked in Manchester. But it's not because of you. It's because of your drinking. Yeah, maybe. I feel like they see me online. And they go, they go to the UK. I don't know whether we have enough carers. Like, you know, they probably just think she's too mentally ill to take bookings. There's an open bar. We can't book her. It's gonna get really ugly. Phil just told us, he got shit on. We can't book her. She's a mess. Have you ever been to Hull? Yeah. I don't know. There's a river of mud that goes through Hull. That sounds about right. The UK has a mysterious place. I hate the UK. Here we go. I, right, listen, listen, listen. Listen, if Katya was here, she would probably high five you. She always high fives me about Haiti UK. She's the only American I've been able to get on with about Haiti on the UK. Because every time I talk about, oh, I love Manchester. I do love Manchester. Try living there, bitch. Okay, okay, I don't live there. You walk around Hollywood with your Wendy's and your fucking, like, I don't know, people fucking bag up your groceries for you and say, hi, how are you? Air conditioning. Have a great one. Have a great one. In the UK, it's like, fuck off. Yeah, no air conditioning. No air conditioning. The air conditioning, well, the UK has the best breakfast. I think the breakfasts are so horny. Delicious. No. I don't like the eggs, but, or I don't like the beans. Do you have a- No, no, no, no. Have you ever had Dunkin' Donuts in America? Yes. I think you would love it. I like the coffee and Dunkin' Donuts. Yeah, and the packaging's kind of pink and brown. I'm not a very sweet person, though. I like salty food. You do. I love salty food. Like the sesame chicken. Like the- No, that was sweet. I can't talk about it too much because I will actually drive you. But I love salty food. Really? Yes. What's like the craving? If you like smoked weed, what's the food you crave? Girl, you know what I had yesterday when I was at the hospital with Katya? What? First of all, she, like couldn't, because of her treatment, she can't eat right now. So I was like, oh yeah, that sucks. And she like was harassing them for ice chips. So like you mean like an ice cube, just plain? Yeah, she, cause she's not a lot, they're like, you know, working on it. But yes, she literally has like a tube up her nose and she's just yelling, hello, hello, somebody, hello. Is she in like a special, her private hospital? I wish. She was passed out and I told the nurse she was famous. I was like, they were like, they were like, do you know, they were like, how do you know him? And I said, oh, we work together. So what do you guys do? I said, we do TV and podcasting and stuff. And then I was like, he's really famous actually. And the nurse was like, yes, I said, yeah. And I pulled up the Instagram and showed pictures. It was like, and they were like, that's her. It was a picture of Katya and I together. And they were like, that's her? Who's that? And I was like, that's me. What is, no, they said, what is that? That's me, that's me. I kind of blew up her spot. And I was like, I bet she doesn't even want people here to know who she is. And then I accidentally told on her, but. Yeah. I was like, we're in Los Angeles. Nobody in this gay hospital. I know. I would have thought you'd have people running around after like crazy. You have crazy fans. I know. I just, I rocked up here today. There was no gate on the car park. The door was swung open. I just walked straight in. I went up some random stairs and I just took a diet coke out of the fridge and made myself at home. Nothing safe. You just took that from upstairs? Yeah. Work. You know what? I made myself at home. That's fine. I think you, you're owed it. Honestly, you came in to cover for Katya. So honestly, she owes you that diet coke. Yes. I've been here quite a lot since I've been in LA. This is a, it's definitely a hub. This is my second home now. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I want to start a podcast. Oh God. About what? I want to do the Juno show, but like a series. Welcome to the Juno show. I want to, I want to abduct celebrities and probe them for information. That's a great idea. And I've been wanting to do it for so long, but that's why I've not been doing YouTube that much because I'm tired of just doing like the little stupid videos and having an excuse to make a video like, oh, we're going to do makeup today or whatever. I just want to chat shit cause I've got so much to say. Yeah. But I didn't start it in the UK because I want to, I'm moving here. So I want to start it here. Oh yeah. I mean, I don't want to leak the news, but you, I've been, you've been doing a trial run of staying in LA. What do you think of it? I love it. I don't want to go home. We've already extended our stay for another week. That's great. I love it here. And I feel like it's going to get extended and extended. The only thing stopping me right now from going from, from never leaving here is the cat. I know. What's a Neville or something? What is it? You're the godmother. How dare you? Oh right. The name of the book. I know it. I know it. I know it. I know it. It's like Artemis or some weird shit, right? You're just naming the cast of always sunny in Philadelphia right now. It's like Cyril. Cyril. That is weird. Cyril. Oh, it's a cute little old man's name. Neville, Cyril. You don't think it's kind of... Neville is a cute name. I've, I've, I've, I've, when I do move here with him, I've got to get him a passport. How do you move with the cat? You have to get them a passport. Shut the fuck up. You have to have a little picture taken. You are lying. That is so cute. You're going to cry. I feel like I'm going to have to go and get him some like little, maybe like a little shirt. How do they fly? How's it going to fly all the way to LA? I know. So this is why we've been doing research on it because I'm so scared about traveling with Cyril. Isn't he going to pee on the plane? So yeah, no, what you do is you can't, you have to fly with a specific airline. You can't fly with, I think it's Virgin. You can't bring a cat into the cabin. Certain, I think it's KLM. You can fly with a cat in the cabin. You put the big carrier under the seat and then they have like it has to be a special one that has compartments where they can have P mats, gravel if you need it, anything like that. You are lying. I don't even know about this. No. And I've even seen, I've been watching a lot of TikToks on it. Oh, thank God for the internet. I bet you people make it really easy because I bet you can hear from people who've done it. Yeah. And people, I think a lot of people do it. Not very often long haul because he's stressful for the animal, but people do it all the time with. And cats are so routine. Yeah. Yeah. And Cyril is an Oriental short hair, so they're very, very, very vocal. So he will scream constantly even when he doesn't want anything. I've never seen a cat that looks like him. He looks so different than other cats. Yeah. It's almost like, is it exotic species? What I did is I made him in the Sims too and I walked his face. He does have that very triangle shaped long. People say I look like him a little bit. You know, I think that's kind of a compliment. Do you think? No. We've got that sort of goddess profile. Yeah. You also kind of give Madonna. Did anybody ever say that? No, I've never heard that one. I don't think the... I've had, I've had, who have I had? I've had Madi-morphoses. Madi-morphoses? Someone said I look like Madi-morphoses. People say that about me too, so. Well, they say that about you two out of drag. Out of drag, yeah. Who else? I got... One that was really weird was people kept saying I look like Adele. But when I was in... Adele? When I was in blue makeup. People just need, people need to... Do you know what I'm getting at the moment? Lily Savage. Who is that? You know who Lily Savage is? Lily Savage was an absolute icon in the UK. She was a drag queen in the 80s and 90s. Then became Paulo Grady. The Paulo Grady show. They've passed away now. But they were from Liverpool and they had this, like, they were talk like that. I don't give a fuck. Like, it was like kind of Pete Burns-esque. I was gonna say Pete Burns. It sounds like Pete Burns accent. Yeah, since I've been doing stand-up out of drag, Lily Savage. Just Lily Savage all the time. Oh my God, that fierce clip of Pete Burns, which is like, I don't give a flying lump up. What is the clip about getting up at five? So it's the documentary. You need to go watch on YouTube. It's called Unspawn. And it's post when Pete Burns got bail from prison and had to go and live with a fan who paid for his bail. And that was the terms of conditions. But the fan was a psychopath that lived in this dump. This really happened? Yes. And in the documentary, they filmed Michael and Pete. Michael was Pete's boyfriend slash assistant. And they're talking about getting Pete on the morning show this morning or something. And Pete's like, I haven't got up at eight o'clock in the morning since I was five. And he says something like, I don't give a flying brown lump of poop. What they decided, I want that coke back. Oh, I also love- Jody Marsh has got tits like saggy spaniels ears. One of my favorite things is to go watch like super YouTube cuts of Pete Burns on Celebrity Big Brother. Cause she really, they didn't know what to do with her. No. And then my favorite part is when they do the, they'll do this sometimes on Big Brother, well they'll have like a talent show. My favorite part is she gets up there and sings. And you kind of like, even though she's kind of like the Frankenstein's monster of the house, there's this moment where she kind of serves all of them as like, I'm a fucking rock star. Yes. And just in case you forgot, I wrote this fucking song. Yeah. And I think a lot of them in that room didn't realize it was Pete that wrote that song. And I remember that performance because Pete struggles to hit the high note. Oh. If I get to know your name, but then when he goes like, ah, he goes like, he goes, ah. Oh yeah, he kind of just goes like- He's like, fuck it. Yeah. He really didn't want to be there. He was there just to pay for like a construction on the lip, I think. Really sickening, sickening face. So stunning. And I love the hair. I love the way the hair gets clipped around the face. Like Rat's Nest with straight hair around the face. Yeah, I wore my hair like that for a very long time. It's a good look. Yeah. And it's kind of like, you only have to really groom this and the rest of it, it's like the bigger the better. It's an easy, easy wig to have on the go because you can have it in a plastic. Like it doesn't have to be real hair because you smooth down the sides like that with the clips. And when you take it off, it kind of stays like that. Oh yeah. Well, here we go girls. If people, well, people can't see you now because you're on your little secret, Juno Burch's secret LA living trip secret standup gig tour. It's not secret. But if people want to follow your support you, maybe they could go to Juno Burch Live and buy some new art. Yes, junoberchlive.com, go buy all my artwork, support a trans woman. Jeff, Jeff Prince. Yes, I'm sailing Prince. Love your Prince. Do you like some of your house? Of course. She has wonderful prints and some of you who are renters, who have white walls, what you need is cool art. Yes. With color and line. With gorgeous alien transsexuals all over the wall. You could do, I forgot to ask you, how was strange journey? You did the Q and A thing the other night. Oh, it was really cool. Have you seen it yet? No, I've watched so many clips of it but I've not sat through the whole thing yet. But I love Rocky Horror so much. I do too. I saw it when it came out. It's a really moving documentary. And the interviews they have with Richard O'Brien, so crazy and illuminating and this person came out as trans like 30 years after Rocky Horror, which is crazy to think about, strange journey. And the person who built the documentary and does the interviews is his son Linus. And so his son Linus is the interviewer and the producer and director of the documentary. And so it's so interesting watching through the eyes of his son, his son asking interviewing his father about like how did you basically change the world with Rocky Horror? It's so interesting. And you have all these shots of Richard O'Brien with his guitar singing the songs acoustic. Like it's so cool. They did such a good job. And I got to be in it. I got to do interviews for it. And I figured they're getting all these super A-list stars but it's basically just me and Jack Black. Because I think you had to be a certain level obsessed and me and Jack Black are obsessed with that movie. I love it. It's so such a personal thing to me because when my uncle died, he requested that everybody at the funeral dressed in Rocky Horror outfits. And my grandma was about 70 something and she showed up with stockings on and everything. When they lowered his coffin into the bit, you know when they have the ceremony, they played on the day. I went away. So that's why it's just such a moving thing for me. Like I just... I wish we could have gone to New York to see the Broadway show while you were here. Well, I... Why are you whispering? I wanna be in it. You could be in it. I wanna play Frankenferst. So bad. We have to get beyond the barriers surrounding your paralyzing stage fright, your inability to dance and sing. And frankly, the amount of money you ask for is too much. So those are kind of our barriers. All of those things are completely false. I work for it. I don't get paid. I haven't been paid for any work that I've done here in LA. And you know what? In order to make Broadway more profitable, we need to transition to actors paying to be in shows. Don't you think? Yeah, I feel like that's what's gonna come to it. You could pay your way into it. All you gotta do is ask Luke Evans to step down. Yes. Do you know what? Do you know what? They never cast a feminine person as Frank. That's true. They always have to cast like a really botched buff person. You're a shoo-an. They ... I love you. Thank you for coming on and covering for Katya. You have really shown me that maybe she should be permanently replaced because she brings nothing I will step in whenever you want, mate. I even brought a little cap to replace Katya Oh I there, welcome to Buckies. Have you tried our Gold Nuggets? Beaver nuggets. Beaver nuggets. That's so nice. I love those. Have you been to Bucky's? Yes. What did you think? It's very mugger. It's so mugger. Goodbye. Bye. Bye. Bye. You