Tommy Gunz on Beef with Blanco15 & DJ Flipp, Fighting Nortenos, Upcoming Jail Time & More

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I didn't have no jewelry, nothing homie. Straight up, this is really the rerun right here. Now it's a blizzard. It's like a year later now. You had one rolly chain, to be fair. Yeah, but not in the interview though. Yeah, okay. I'm still trying to get a rolly chain, man. Let's go to Slasimum soon and get you a rolly chain. I don't feel like I earned it yet. We'll do a skit first. Hit it. I feel like I really earned the roll chain, but I think I'm gonna get there. You're close. Couple skits. Yeah. I'll be all right. Tommy Guns, how you feeling today, man? Pretty good. I ain't gonna lie. I never drink this early. You don't. So yeah. I'm not gonna see Lush Uno. Yeah, I think you're lying about not drinking this early, first of all. So we're gonna take this shot. Or am I the only one who didn't take it? You are. Oh, shit. All right. Well, here we go. Cheers. I'm gonna bless you. You got an automatic shot on deck. Turn right here with you. I'll wash it down with the Starbucks. Oh, here we go. We're in the zone. I was just using that to make sure that my cone is straight. Yeah, definitely. Nah, but okay. So when your management tapped in and said that they wanted to get you on again, they were saying that you're gonna go in, that you got a little bid coming up. Yeah. No. Yeah, like a year. So him and Sporty CK. Hopefully they're sellies. So the management team is getting fucked. Yeah. The management team has got all their clients going away. But that's kind of like great promo from a rap perspective. Like two of the biggest joints they're about to go in. Yeah. They come home like this is like a great rollout. Wait, so where are you actually, what are you going in for? I don't want to say, but me and Homie caught the same case, you know. So whenever you see Sporty Garden and me gone, there's no, how you say it probably gonna be sellmates or something, you know. You guys caught the case together. Yeah. What? And you really think you might end up being sellmates? Like you're gonna be in the same jail? I don't know. I just know we're gonna do our time together though. Wow, that's insane. Preemptively. I never said I actually thought about it like hell yeah, it's probably gonna, it's gonna write off fast, you know. Is it like so like you being. Like I said that was a good promo. Yeah, great promo. You gotta use it for what it's worth, yeah. But like you like a lot of times you get busted. You be down in like LA County jail and shit and you be down here. And obviously you're Homie so that's not like a problem or whatever, but like how come you get in trouble so much down here fool? You're supposed to be like where you. Stay down here don't you? It's cause now I do yet. But he's supposed to be getting money and rapping down here. True, but there's a lot more to get into. I'm younger, you know, when I be out and about, like I take advantage of my face card, you know, I see that I could go to the club right now. I could take you to the club tonight. We'll walk there. The security see me. Tell me who you with your friend. Bet go in there. No ID, you know, walk in there. So I'm enjoying it. You know, I'm everywhere. Like you never know what could happen. So when shit cracks off, I'm kicking it with 41 day, whatever the you know, anything happened and you're down. I saw me and it is what it is. I'm in LA. So I know like, you know, anything can happen in LA. So I'm taking it that you're really enjoying your newfound celebrity. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Cause when I first came here, I guess you could say like, I thought I was popping whenever just cause I was doing promos and shit. Cause I guarantee you any brand, your name right now in LA, I've been done promo for them. All the biggest brands, awful lot of concert, Asali, SDL, Blue Shirt. You were modeling. It's not even just promo. You were like doing straight. Actually, um, awesome shit. I guarantee you. Awesome shit. He did it on some shoot. Should photo shoot. Yeah. I get paid for that too. Oh, shit. I get paid every time I do that. They want me to wear the clothes, you know, they got some new clothes. They're like, let's let this feel where you know, cause they don't want to borrow. Wait, how old are you? 21. 21. Yeah. You still young. You got it, but that's why you got to make sure you don't get fat. Yeah. Cause that's main, that's the whole thing that'll separate you from being able to model. Cause if you, if you put on a bunch of weight and you're getting your Gordo era, then all of a sudden those opportunities saying, I think to be honest, people who book me is because they probably see me on the internet. I go viral and I just got to have the tattoos. I just look like different. Let him put my clothes on. No. I attract a lot of attention, you know, the girls like you. That's a big part of it. I don't know why. Cause to be honest, if you ever hear my music, I don't make no music for no high enough. Not yet. Yeah. Not yet. I got some coming though. If you do it's by accident. No, no, no. I'm doing on purpose. Oh, but I mean like, you know, the music is not intended for the girls, but they might end up liking it. Is there a reason why you're drinking repeatedly today? Or let's just, you said it's not a regular occasion. Today is about to be a good day. You don't even know what it is. A Friday. You don't smoke. I'll smoke. You don't smoke. I got like 10 things to do today. Today a rapper, I guess you could say, you know, when you got to do, I didn't even get my haircut. I got to get a haircut. I'm about to do this. That's a haircut. Your hair looks fine. No, no, no. I'm going to do one. I'm going to do one. No, I need one. But I'm going to do this. And I got a music video after this. I got a show tonight and Riverside. What else I'm going to do? I think that's probably it. So your attitude is that you're trying to pack in as much shit as possible before you got to go sit down. Exactly. Now, like last time back in the day when you were in the halls, you used to write this a certain girl. You're not going to be writing her this time. Bro, it's time to snatch her back homey. You're not trying to snatch her back for the blue team. Oh man. All right. Is there like a service that you use to find lonely women that will like write you letters while you locked up and like send you some money and shit. No, to be honest, you know what I do? I can damn they're going to clip the shit. You know what I do? I call my manager. That's the one. The first number that I call this was like, you know, like, don't do it. I call my manager and then this will log into my Instagram because he logged in my Instagram. People don't know that. Like sometimes you might see a little post like play games for free. Get money. No, I'm doing promo. I get paid for it. You'll be thinking I'm standing on the mission. Post the money. That's not me. I thought you're about to say that your manager is a finance for you. You don't want to get really famous. That's called to your assistant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For real, bro. I literally text that for a go on my Instagram. Boom. Can you tell so and so that I said boom, boom, so so and so I said boom, boom over and over. Yeah. There you go. You are just DM him F3. It's not like too hard. It's not too hard. Oh, hell no. No, that one's burnt. That method is burnt. That method is way burnt. I'm going to show you some new shit. You want to know what I do? Please just to throw a high enough you know what you do. Send like a hundred hard eyes, a hundred of them. Sit there and take five minutes out of your time and type that shit. No, it don't work like that. Yeah. So then they're going to see that you actually took time to like tap. They're going to basically how I think you have to be like they're going to see their phone and be like my shirt is glitching with the fuck ain't no way they're going to open your DM just to see if their phone's glitching and then that's when they see better method. What's it do it 250 times. Select all copy paste. Okay. Now I want to say to both of y'all and then you copy and paste that whole thing and then you never have to write it all out again. You're you're a rich and famous joint. You're you're joining up young rapper that the Hina is like I feel like if a regular person does that that could be considered harassment. It's just one DM. But a hundred hearts though. But you ever go you ever go to send the DM you send one and then you try to send another one and it says you can't send a second one unless they follow you back or until you follow you back or until they see the first one. And then I'm like the first one wasn't even it wasn't good enough what I wanted to say like right here. I thought I had a second DM in me and then it's a rat. It's crazy. I never seen that before. I would just see they won't let you text. I think it's just because they like they like you Tommy. That's why they let you get away with a hundred hearts. You know what I know. You know what I noticed too a lot of people go through their request and they act like they don't. Like a lot of famous people they act like they don't go through their request. You know that one when you wake up in the morning you're bored. You can't see what random people are texting you may not open it but just know if you're shooting a shot of famous high enough in Kylie Jenner all that shit. They she probably seen it and probably just like whatever is really passive but she probably seen it. I haven't been through mine so long because it used to be that you can sort it by followers. Yeah. So at least I would feel like I'm not missing out on anything that crazy but now you just have to filter by 10,000 plus followers. So I still have to look through it for how long am I should be glitching like I don't know. I'm just like kind of I'm out the loop. You could also set it to only blue checks could DM you. You feel me. You got to go through there. There might be money sitting in there. You know exactly. Hey what's up. How do I get a hold of you. I've been trying to get some promo for me for months. Yeah. Definitely. But so you say that you're are you bummed out about having to go get locked up or is it just part of the game for you. Yeah. I'm definitely bummed out because no one likes to go to jail but to be honest I think I'm doing good you know. Like I think I got everything set up good. I don't have a lot. I'm not going to be there for a long time. Yeah. I'm going to be there for like a year. You'll be. You feel me. But you've done time in different places already. Like you've been. I've been to LA County already. Like I'm pretty sure like I'm not going to act like a big dog but I already said my name. You've been in the towers. You've been in the towers. No I wasn't in the towers. MCJ. Yeah MCJ. You've been to the wayside. Nope I didn't go there. I was in the school dorm. So if you sign up for school and say I don't have my GED. Let me get my GED here. You'll never go to wayside. That's a cheat code bro. If you're in LA County you don't want to go to wayside. Be like oh I don't have my GED. Let me sign up for school. But you'll go to school but it's better than going to wayside. Was that your favorite place of the school dorm pretty much? Yeah it was solid right there. I haven't been nowhere else other than that. Don't go to fire camp. Nah I'm already know. We just found out you're not allowed to do that. I didn't know that. You didn't know that either? No some of my homies are no good apparently. Oh wow. I've been on that already. I didn't know it's all right now. I'm learning new culture as we speak. But yeah. You like that? Hell yeah my homie got one of those. Long live Swade. It's hard. When we first got it somebody thought it was Drake right away. Drake? Yeah. Yeah. Drake has face that. Well he did. I mean Drake probably wouldn't have a Mexican flag. That's so random we brought that up speaking of that. Every time I be going on public I swear that shit happened to me like three times and I'd be wondering why the f*** did shit happen to me. Some kids would walk up to me and they'd be like Drexer join. Drexer join is that you? I'm like bro do I really look like the homie? Because that's the homie but I'm like bro. You are like the leading. Like my face. I don't look like Drexer join. Come on now. You don't look like them but you guys are like in their head they're probably like the Mexican and black dudes and then they scramble it up. And I'll be with like a high enough or something and then they'll be like you know. That's f*** up. That's f*** up. You're salting his ribs. You know what you gotta do is just be like next time just pretend you're Drex and then like let them tag Drex in the pic and everything. You feel me? Yeah it doesn't make you look bad in any capacity. You're not dissing the homie or anything. It just shows how dumb these people are. Last time I remember reading the homie flock we were in Bakersfield and we seen some food wearing all red and we went to the smoke shop because we were about to hit them up. What's up? This was from we go in there and there's some white boy and this food looks at me. He's like you look like that old rapper Tommy Guns. That's what me and the homie look and we're like nah this food for sure don't bang anything. And then I went to buy my shit from the smoke shop. Even though I didn't want to buy anything we just went to see who he was. I played off by buying something and I let that food think that it was and the whole time I didn't even say shit. I could have been like it was me bro. I think he escaped. He was like you look like that one guy. No he escaped from you bro. He escaped from you. He totally did. He was an op and he knew like oh Tommy got the drop on me this is the best thing I could say. Oh ain't you that one rap. That's what I would have done. That's smart. You look like that one dude and I was like for real that's crazy bro. That's crazy. But would you do an Afro Latino anthem with Drexel Joint. Oh yeah. There you go. That's the homie man Drexel Joint. Oh you are tight. Nice. Yeah that's cool. That food's cool. So I mean you've had a lot going on Tommy. It's damn near I don't even know where to begin. There's so much. I was about to say I don't even know what to talk about. I got so much shit caught up in talking about one subject too long. Okay so check this out. They like that though. They like it when it doesn't feel like a strict interview and it feels like just a bunch of J-cats getting fucked up you know. All you love. Or on my last interview damn this is about to crack some shit off too. In my last interview with the food um Jinx. Young Jinx. Drinks with Jinx when you said that you would never be with a black girl. Yeah I remember. I like interviews like that like I pulled up and they said what I said I was trying to be raised to a black people but I literally said it to a black people to a space and we're drinking and getting drunk. That's what the interview kind of that's the type I like you know like me and him are just getting like people could say what they say and put this thing with all that was bad but really if the camera wasn't there you know people get drunk and have conversations and being real with each other all the time it was just on camera you get me? You. This ain't like that or it's gonna be like because you're drinking. No it is like that. I'm just a grown man drinking and then you guys are just expressing shit like yeah back in my childhood boom boom boom. You forget the cameras even there. Do you feel like like other like black people might have looked at him like damn you should say something to bro like what the hell like I mean but him like I said he was drunk and he was talking to me so he probably didn't take it that way either we were probably having a heart to heart you know. I mean as an interviewer as an interviewer the person I'm interviewing they could say I hate white people and it's not I don't give like okay I'm interviewing you like yeah that's interesting let's talk about it so as an interviewer I feel like if you even if you were to say I don't like white people from Jinx's perspective he should be a journalist or be an investigator and just sit there and talk about it yeah yeah what made you. But I didn't do that though. Yeah yeah I further heard you. I rock with Jinx he's my homeboy that's my god. That's my god. In another interview we're gonna do it again like that's the home you know we were literally to me it felt like two grown men having drinks eating faded and talking about like the past you know talking about real shit. But he look he agreed with you that's kind of the issue. What's getting mad about reality all I did was expose the truth behind closed doors of what happened in the black house so that's all I did. Because it's not like I'm talking shit I grew up that way I watched it I'm basically just exposing like that's probably why they're mad like why the tell me how we are basically you know but you were speaking your experience you're specific and that's not necessarily all black people experience people when they're struggling it don't matter what you say when people are struggling you know demo you can't bring all your friends in there and just be eating like shit your mom's gonna tell you don't they have mom at home you know don't think I put it that don't bring your friends over here to eat all my damn food you know I mean I just feel like it's so rare for somebody to get famous and then to just continue to be the same person you know and just keep it so real like that. And that's the shit people appreciate is when you don't come off like a cloud chaser but you'll say shit that people are uncomfortable with because you just genuinely don't give a because most people get famous and really just learn to like not speak out of turn you know. Well I think a lot of it comes from this full being I wouldn't be funded although you've been famous and having to be like that that would be no fun you know. You are like a blue face. Not quite. Obviously you would have to be like 50 times more ignorant and like just out of control messy to be actually like that but like I kind of see you in that lane where you could just be I can start my own blue girls club. Whatever level of messy you want to be at like the people are just gonna love you for it. They're not gonna stop being interested in you because you said something that they think is a little problematic you know. No but that's kind of like one of the major parts of your appeal is just like the non-filter. You're just like saying even when you rap you're just saying what you think so there's like no real. I try to say shit outside the box like I never point this out to anybody but I try to rap different like a lot of people say the same fucking lyrics like spin on the op on the block bounce out the load this and this and that. Me you won't even hear me say nigga and you won't hear me say op or like cringy words. I try to switch it up and say like some fancy shit like I don't say all catch me with the Blakey or some shit I'll be like Blast them or something like something fly you know. I'm overly doing it like I try to write every last bar to perfection but nowadays people don't want to hear no authentic shit no more you know. They don't give a fuck if you actually say oh if y'all catch me slipping and I'm wearing slides I'm gonna still get down and then just you do that you know and then you can call doing that they don't give a fuck no more you know you could be the biggest baddest motherfucker they don't care they need to hear something catchy and they only last like a minute 45 seconds so they could replay it. Nowadays back then Snoop Dogg and all those niggas used to be making a five minute song six minute songs and you'll you'll replay that shit because it was hard right nowadays no one's gonna hear sit and for five minutes straight and listen to a song in the car they're gonna change it already you know. When you listen to like an old Jay-Z song and he comes in for that third verse with a weird ass flow like his flow is totally different and you're just like what the fuck bro like this is audacious to think that I'm gonna stick around for this but as a rapper as a lyricist it's like perfect you know like that's the ultimate proof that you could f**k this beat up in a multitude of ways you know. And not to mention there's a 45 second intro before he even starts rapping. Some guy on the phone. Yeah. I know it's too loud if you wasted time like singing or even auto tune and that didn't sing me no auto tune I'm rapping about raw shit it's pretty easy to get tired of I guess you could say but I stay going viral on the internet so like you said Puzza never gonna start watching me I already know it. I suppose my f**king shoe right now someone's gonna be like oh look at that little dirt mark on the shoe like they're gonna find something to say about me no matter what I can post a million dollars on cash right now on this table and be like he don't got two million though. Well I'm starting to realize that now like it's never gonna stop bro. I mean you came in the game down to earth because you already like you've been were very forthright about the fact that you had like a regular 9 to 5 job and recently. I was broke as f**k. Yeah. You were actually you were doing okay you were doing good at your job yeah you were making yeah he was working hard but it was like not trying to rap you know what I mean like I had two hours out of my day to just rest and then at the end of the day. And then recently like the footage came out like with like and this is from like what a year and a half ago like of you and your old job how many like yeah yeah. What job is it? Café Rio. Oh nice. Yeah he's working like a 9 to 5 like. That's crazy bro like I guarantee if I go back they'll remember me because I remember I'll tell people I'll rap and it'll feel so weird like damn why did I tell them that because I'm working here with them you know but I just wanted to share that with them. But I bet you now like they won't they won't notice how like how do I say foods now will notice how at that time I was the f**king what do you call it you know when you go to Chipotle and then there's somebody telling you what do you want on your sh** yeah main food the main guy not the not the worker on the f**king thing type of thing. The CEO of the company. How you doing today welcome to Café Rio what can I get for you that was me. Bro I was in the drive-thru for like a month straight. Oh sh** when I first got the job I didn't want to know what to see me you know. Right. I pulled the bow down my face tight and you know I was like I was embarrassed you know low key. But then it got to the point I started seeing like Dennis Fuka charisma this f**k could talk like what the f**k is this f**king thing in the front and see what happens. Boom I stayed there for like 8 months straight working in the front like I was doing I was the f**king thing that was coming you're not allowed to get tips like you have to share with everyone and there'll be foods in there like come in like a black food come in and cool as f**k they'll be like you working here what the f**k how long you been working they'll give me a tip they'll slide me a tip and then everybody be looking all jealous like what the f**k how I got tips I'll put that sh** in my pocket. Did you be told did you call. I was hella cool right there like there'll be white people coming in like oh like they expected to see me when they went in you know. Yeah. F**king there like no one would treat me weird and it was this was in Billings Montana full white state white people everywhere bro white people everywhere bro and I never felt like no racist sh** going on when I was out there. Yeah right. Everyone show me love straight up. Yeah. I never felt no one treated me like nothing you know. You're straight. My homies were white. I was kicking it with like frat boys for like a year bro. He's got a good vibe you know. Then I came back to LA and I was back gangster sh** back cracking but when I was over for a year I was the only like gang member out there I could have went out there and been on some like oh I'ma tell these n****s what to do and be the top dog here. For sure. You should have. I've been sliding on n****s. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I did. Out there and I was going to these parties. Tommy Cartel. These ones are cool as f**k I'm like these f**ks cool as f**k. I was rapping music and sh** I was making some gay music and they're like damn what this f**k is saying. I'm like what? Because I'm going to go to the parties I'm never know. I'm having fun with some white boys bro. Having real fun like cool as f**k. I'm gonna call one of my white homies right now and they'll vouch for me bro. You like when the black fools would like come into the restaurant would you call switch low key and be like yo what's up. What's up. What's up. What's up. What's up. What's up. What's up. What's up. What's up. What's up. What's up. What's up. What's up. What went wrong there? Just a simple fact of me getting locked up and I just felt like fools are trying to like steal my shit, you know Cuz that's what you said swagger jacking. Why you feel like you was why you're jacking? You can say what they want make it what they want me personally the real reason was literally that and that I Texted that fool. What's up with it? Like you can you chill the fuck out like you know like don't don't do that You know like can you stop doing that? Oh see what you're doing. What do you know what he did? What do you feel like he took? I don't want to see everybody's like what's up like I'm not explaining like just know when I came around. Yeah Bro's doing his shit, but in reality like she started cracking when I came around, you know And especially Pete face because Pete face was getting it popping like Okay, bro that's a good rap, you know for sure my Blanco like yeah, he invited me to that studio Yeah, me him and Pete face all met the same day. He faced it in a blanco. I didn't know Blanco Pete face didn't you know We all three didn't know each other we all made it OTR studios one day boom You know what the black to white so make so you guys are all Boom and they're like who the fuck is this food cuz they didn't really know me, you know, they just brought me there Blanco, there's this thing called OTR Tuesdays I have a meeting every Tuesday and Blanco just brought me there That was some real Dawson G shit, right? And that's what that was the first thing you said you said Blanco a real one That was a piece of block or a real one And I'll always have love for him because when I first came to the city I know nobody and Blanco brought me to OTR and like when I won't forget the fact that yeah But they see me they like me though, you know, yeah, of course So they're like oh you can rap let me hear you got boom first song boom kill that shit Let's shoot a video to that shit boom I killed the verse You know I come on first verse and that's how I got my name like literally like, you know People say like muta la and uh if you want to chase your dreams muta la that's what happened for me I swear like the first day I got here to a late my career popped off. I didn't have to wait at all I didn't wait two days two weeks from Blanco to tap in he really did tap in I was out of state working Breedles and shit, and he was all like hey If you ever come to LA let's kick it and instead, you know what I did I call my manager like this pussy Let's kick it's forgot the connects over there to the record label. You know, I'm a move over there I didn't tell Blanco this but I moved to LA that day that we hung out that studio that day I had all my bags and everything in my homies pad. I moved to LA and did you like they worked so good for me like I did a perfect. What did he steal? What did he do that you didn't appreciate? I Don't know we're starting to not say the word nigga because I don't know Conversations behind the cut like oh, I don't say that just cuz I want to show I got talent You know you can replace it with anywhere all these rappers Carabba tell him to stop saying nigga then let's see how their music sounds That was one and then doing the whole fucking little muscle flex thing like bro me and him are skiniest bro I'm the one that was bold enough I think I'm right here like doing my shit And I don't know we starts doing this shit too and then I don't know where I got I bought a Rolex and I got another Rolex And I put it on no the other one was not a Rolex It was a citizen I got the Rolex so I'm wearing two gold watches. Everyone make fun of me. They'll be like that's tacky It's what are you doing? You know it was a bust down, you know, and I'll be like a this watch I bought this shit when I was working my job. It was only $300. There's other one manager got it from birthday It's a Rolex so it keeps me humble like every time I look at this watch. I'm like damn I used to be struggling but I swear I was fresh with this watch and there's new ones like I got new shit now Have a whole background story, right? This will start is way to Rolex isn't going like this and doing this and that like you know I'm locked there. Let's kind of You're supposed to do all the same We met it wasn't like that we had our own style You give me he had his own steelo and he was hard, you know his shit was hard He had that's your little homie. You're supposed to be like letting him drip like you Look, we didn't do that. He's a straight G. Yeah, she we love all three He don't start doing this and that the other food come on now like I'm not tripping This ain't the first time that this happened like a lot of people could vouch for me that When you hang around that food for too long, he just starts copying you like you don't know what it's like to be a white boy But you gotta copy mother struggle. It's a struggle. What do you do as a white boy? You find the coolest black guy you copy him. You made it work though. You got your own motion like him Honest bro. Where has he got since I left like Up or down trying to copy my shit didn't work you gave me you got something going like it worked at least you know But for him be honest bro his career still is saying I forget 200 likes on Instagram and some foods DM me me They're like damn. They're like I text Blanco foods texting me They're like I text Blanco for promo and he tried to charge me 300 and I was like that food smoked out He was like how much that you want for the promo and just to be just to be a real one You know, I told him I was like, I'll kill for 200 Even though I talked more than that I did I just to look like you know, so the fan could be like man Boy Okay, but like do you feel like it at a certain point