This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Can we address the lavender elephant in the room? It's one more thing. Armstrong and Getty. One more thing. But first, and I should have dug into this more. I was hoping there was more information. But during the show, we were talking about the ultra-rich now have these unbelievably lavish security systems in their homes. and safe rooms and Army Corps of Engineers grade filtration systems for their safe rooms. And the one guy who had eight swimming pools, I think he had the moat or was, no, it was the other guy, like in Scottsdale, who had spiky orange trees, steel gates, a moat, and a 2,000-pound front door with, I believe it was 13 deadbolts. I mean, you're like under siege. if you're that well-equipped. Or I guess you have so much money, it doesn't matter. But still, I think it matters. I think it makes you paranoid, a paranoid lunatic. You have a two-ton door. Unless you're Maduro, who are you protecting yourself against? And it didn't do him much good. But the other aspect of it that I came across, and I should have dug more into this, but maybe you will, is sooner or later you've got to leave your fortress, right? So what are you driving? Well, I suggest a Arkansas company that retrofits Land Rover Defenders with electrified door handles. Yes. So somebody tries to carjack you or whatever, you zap them. Ah, God, my face. I want that. Right, right. Steel panels and side view mirrors that shoot pepper spray. I want all those things. I love that. Let's see. Oh, Helderberg. There it is. Their Bellatrix model, which starts. The stripped down version is $658,000. Yipes. Also has a smoke screen function. Cool. To obscure the vehicle's whereabouts if you need to get lost in a hurry. James Bond. Yeah. Or Batman. Wow. So your base price is $658,000. that's a house some places most places most places most places uh helderberg bellatrix is that after bellatrix lestrange from the harry potty but again unless you're maduro or a rapper i don't understand why you need that what are you picturing happening in the world socialist venezuelan rappers definitely need this wow what's the gas mileage how's the stereo oh my gosh that's crazy oh you got a vast color palette by the way i mean you don't want to spend 750 000 on a james bond death car and have it in some stupid color your choices are white and blue come on yeah weak so this is not new ground that i'm wanting to tread upon it's actually tired conversation but it struck me anew on friday night as watching the quad fraud fall on his ass in the olympics so the world greatest figure skater is out there and he uh he has a panic attack or something and does really poorly and finishes eighth But leading up to that I ended up watching a lot of the men figure skating including the commentary by who the dude who does commentary Johnny Weir. Johnny Weir, who formerly known as Johnny Weird by some folks. Well, and my son had a different rhyming name for him that is not appropriate. But oh, boy. what is going on with the whole figure skating thing with the see-through, these dudes, these see-through gloves with sequins on them and everything like that? You want to be as pretty as possible. No guy would ever wear, and the glitter on their face, and the sashes, and the eyeliner, and then after, So how did that culturally, how did it come to be that? They're some of the greatest athletes in the world. Yeah, they're unbelievably strong and flexible and skilled and all that stuff. And flamboyant. Yes, yeah. It's got to be a cultural thing to me because the rewards are awesome. It does have to be a cultural thing. How come it's never been discussed? And I don't mean it in a mocking dismissive way, really. It just doesn't seem kind of odd that you have one sport, and it could just as easily be, I mean, men's gymnastics is not that way at all. No. And it's similar, really strong, flexible, good balance athletes. why did why did we carve out this section where if you're i assume a gay man and like a flamboyantly gay man and you're athletic you do ice skating yeah for the record my admiration for like johnny weir as an athlete isn't an iota dime diminished by the fact that he prefers the company of men no uh but yeah that's is it that although lots of men prefer the company of men, as we've talked about over the many years, who don't wear sequins and put glitter on and eyeliner and sashay around. That's a certain specific kind of guy. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. After, I mean, so I was watching some of the competitors from other countries too, and they come off the ice and they're sitting there and they're just, they're lower lip quivering, waiting for the score to come in. And somebody hands them teddy bears and they, and they kiss them. And then they, they hold their teddy bears up to their face and make this scrunchy face and they hold their teddy bears waiting for the, and you're like a 20-year-old athletic dude holding a teddy bear crying. What is this? How did this happen culturally? Was there some great innovator or two that were, maybe it was Johnny Weir himself, flamboyant and very girlish, yet athletic, and all the effeminate boys of America stood up and took notice or sat up and took notice? I don't know. I mean, because it's virtually, well, is that true as I watched like I watched the short program that that our boy lost to the Japanese guy and it appeared to be overwhelmingly gay fellas I mean it appeared to be I don't know that they're gay but they're very flamboyant effeminate flamboyantly effeminate yeah why don't I just say that and it's mysterious maybe it's a certain body type excels at figure skating. Would you be? And that body type is more commonly seen among I don know There is an explanation for it whether it cultural physical or the both And I realize this is incredibly thin ice to skate on Ha ha ha But it's an interesting sociological. It's like all big hairy guys were pistol shooters or something like that. I mean, it was like exclusively big mountain men looking guys. Do you have any guess on this, Katie? You also prefer the company of men, yes? Right. But you know what? I've had friends that have... Oh, God. I can't say this. But I've dated the effeminate guy. Who is straight? Well, they say they are. Okay. You know what I mean? So you dated effeminate guys you think were gay? Yes. Were dating you? No, were dating my friend. And I'd go, because I've also known people who are gay that were quote unquote straight for a long time because they were afraid of, you know, whatever. Yeah. Well, I actually don't care about the sexuality part of it, but it is clear that it's flamboyantly effeminate is very popular among men's figure skating. And I just wondered how come it's never been addressed. And again, not in a mocking mean way, just like explain it to me. How did this happen? Why? And would it be okay if you're like a, you're like an, you know, you're built like an NHL hockey player. You're just a really good skater and you came along. Would you be shunned? Would you be welcome at most practices? Would people talk about you behind your back? Would it be uncool? I just wonder. Nobody's been like that. Well, and your skating uni was just like some really good athletic wear or something and not fairy princess. Yes, fairy princess seems to be very popular. Yeah, yeah. I really don't know. I wonder how come this hasn't been discussed more. I guess because it sounds bigoted or something. but yes yeah yeah it's it's the same thing as anything racial is racist which is not true but everybody is cowed into how we can't even don't even say the word we can't even talk about it i don't it seems silly to me again i my respect for you know whether it's ilia melanin or who spends a hell of a long time at the hairdresser but he's a professional performer so you know whatever um but my respect for him or johnny we're his athletes is is complete i have nothing but admiration for them. The incredible hard work it takes to get to the level they're at. The self-discipline, the sacrifice, the mental concentration. It's awesome. It's amazing. So why are you all dressed like fairy princesses? I don't think that's illegitimate or hateful because I don't hate anybody. Well, I got some people I hate. I'd be happy to give you the list. Do you need to score well? It's so ingrained into the competition that if you came out there and like, I wear kind of regular athleisure outfits, and I don't put any glitter on my face ever. I never have had glitter on my face in my life. Would you score poorly? Well, I play enough golf to know that your young golf studs, not tour guys, but young studs, They wear tight, disturbingly short shorts. And because they want everybody to know what a stud they are, their golf shirts are fairly tight as well. You can dress like that and figure skate. Sure. But you never see anybody dressed as, you know, a studly golfer on the ice. It's always a fairy princess. The whole clutching a teddy bear, lower lip quivering, waiting for your score is not the way everybody acts. Ski racers don do that No exactly All kinds kinds of you know gay straight or whatever it a well it a they professional dancers with astonishing levels of athletic ability and lots of eyeliner and glitter well i was going to leave that out for the moment but um i would say the cliche that gay men in general are better dancers on average and straight men probably exists for a reason. But again, why doesn't it apply to like gymnastics? I don't know. I honestly don't. There might be a lot of gay gymnasts. They all just dress in the same uni, so you don't know. Well, they don't put glitter on their faces. Maybe they want to. But again, that gets to the question of a cultural norm. Yeah. I don't know. I hadn't watched that much figure skating in a long time. I mean, it was just, they were like, it was so monochromatic. I mean, they were all very similar. Hairstyles, amount of glitter and makeup and lower lip quivering holding teddy bears. I mean, they all did it. Boy, the quivering in the teddy bear really bothered you. Well, it was just. Some days a grown man needs a teddy bear. Who do you know? Name the 22-year-old man you know who holds a teddy bear with their lower lip quivering. I just don't know that person. I can't help you, really. No, no. So a second ago, I almost used the term athleticism, but I stopped myself because I hate that term, but I don't hate it as much as I hate a meaningless word. You will hear 50 times watching football, 50 times watching a basketball game, and nobody has yet to define it for me. It is a meaningless effing word used by Lunkhead sports announcers. that word is downhill. When he gets the ball and really runs downhill, tell you he's tough to stop. Oh, downhill to the hoop. What do you mean, straight ahead? We have words for that already. You don't need to invent terms to make yourself sound smart. All right? Somebody can define the word downhill in sports. Please feel free. Boy, to finish with this, NBC, They really got put in a rough position because they built such a package around because they knew they're going to have so many eyeballs for quad gods skate on Friday night. And they built this package and all of his records and his history and how he's the best ever. And just, I mean, just interviewing childhood friends. The buildup was tremendous. And then like immediately he failed and they were like, um, all that stuff we said earlier. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Should we go ahead and run it or what? I don't know. No, no, we're not going to run it. Sorry about that whole, he's just a different sort of human being. I guess he's just a regular human being. So anyway. But as we discussed, he completely manned up afterwards, said, hey, I choked. I got nervous. It was crazy. I can't believe it happened, but that's all on me. Yeah. Yeah. Bet it was the nickname. It was just too much pressure. Just all of a sudden, oh, God, I'd never thought about that. before i'm comparing myself to a god yeah the hubris what have i done it's a lot like when the summer olympics were around and the australian breakdancer she was uh not really a breakdancer but she was just yeah just art she was a performance artist that's right well i guess that's it this is an iheart podcast guaranteed human
