Hour 4 of NMN, More Congressman Ogles + The Hand-Off
33 min
•Apr 13, 20266 days agoSummary
Congressman Andy Ogles discusses Department of Homeland Security funding negotiations between the House and Senate, immigration policy proposals including the Assimilation Act and Save America Act, and defends controversial statements about Muslim immigration by citing crime statistics from European countries. The episode also covers Iran tensions, oil market stability concerns, and midterm election implications.
Insights
- Congressional disagreement on DHS funding reflects broader partisan divide on border security priorities, with House pushing for long-term funding while Senate uses procedural tools to delay action
- Immigration policy debate centers on data-driven arguments about crime rates and welfare dependency rather than ideological positions, though messaging remains highly polarized
- Oil market stability and infrastructure damage from Middle East conflicts pose significant economic risks to midterm election outcomes, potentially affecting gas prices for 2-4 years
- Voter sentiment strongly supports election security measures (83% approval for voter ID requirements) and border enforcement, creating political pressure on Senate Democrats
- Strategic communication challenges emerge when political messaging conflicts with religious symbolism, creating unforced errors that distract from policy agenda
Trends
Increased focus on immigration vetting and assimilation requirements as core policy differentiator in current administrationGrowing use of crime statistics and welfare data to frame immigration policy debates in quantitative rather than humanitarian termsSenate procedural tools (filibuster, reconciliation) becoming central to legislative strategy and inter-chamber negotiationsVoter demand for election security measures (voter ID) reaching supermajority consensus across party linesMiddle East geopolitical instability creating economic uncertainty that could reshape electoral dynamics through energy pricesShift toward denaturalization and citizenship revocation as enforcement mechanism for immigration policyIncreasing polarization around religious and cultural integration debates in immigration policyStrategic use of social media for political messaging creating unintended backlash and distraction from policy priorities
Topics
Department of Homeland Security FundingBorder Security and ICE OperationsImmigration Vetting and Assimilation PolicyVoter ID Requirements and Election SecuritySenate Filibuster and Procedural StrategyIran Tensions and Oil Market StabilityCrime Statistics and Immigration DataChain Migration and H1B Visa PolicyDenaturalization and Citizenship RevocationStrategic Oil Reserve ManagementMiddle East Infrastructure DamageMidterm Election Economic FactorsMuslim Immigration and IntegrationGang Affiliation Vetting StandardsPresidential Social Media Strategy
Companies
People
Andy Ogles
Guest discussing DHS funding, immigration bills, and controversial statements on Muslim immigration
Dan Mandis
Primary host conducting interview and moderating discussion on policy topics
Mike Johnson
Mentioned as opposing Senate DHS funding bill and pushing for long-term appropriations
John Thune
Senate leadership mentioned regarding Save America Act and DHS funding negotiations
Donald Trump
Discussed regarding immigration enforcement, Iran conflict strategy, and social media posts
Al Green
Mentioned as filing resolution condemning Ogles' statements about Muslim immigration
Mike Lee
Referenced as potential partner for talking filibuster on Save America Act
Chris
Co-host participating in discussion and providing commentary on policy and current events
Joan
Co-host participating in discussion and providing commentary on various topics
Joe
Co-host providing commentary and perspective on political and social issues
Quotes
"This is our country. We get to decide who comes in, we get to decide who leaves. And if that offends you, that's your problem, not mine. Go read the constitution."
Andy Ogles•Mid-episode
"If you import the third world, you're going to get third world reality. That's a fact."
Andy Ogles•Mid-episode
"You have to have an ID to vote in Somalia. You should have to have an ID here."
Andy Ogles•Late-episode
"If we do our job, the rest of it takes care of itself."
Andy Ogles•Late-episode
"Why would you do this? Why are you your own worst enemy?"
Chris•Final segment
Full Transcript
One hour and counting, before we block Iran's blockade, I can't wait to see how this whole thing transpires throughout the day. Congressman Andy Ogles is joining us here in studio. Congressman, you go back to Washington, DC, I don't know if it's tonight or tomorrow, but you're back in session tomorrow. That's right. All right, so let's talk about just a couple of things, the funding of the Department of Homeland Security. We still have ICE and Border Patrol that by and large are not funded. So let's talk about what happened. The Senate voice vote passed a couple of weeks ago, a bill sent it back over to the House of Representatives. Mike Johnson was really angry because it didn't have long-term funding for both. And so then you folks passed your own version and booted it back to the Senate where they will perhaps take it up tomorrow. How do you think that relationship is between Mike Johnson and John Thune? To be determined, I guess, right? So ultimately we ended up staying over the weekend because what the Senate sent us was unacceptable. I mean, so there's tools in the Senate. So keep in mind that the House rules and the Senate rules are different. We're a simple majority in the Senate. You have to have a 60-vote threshold. Now they have reconciliation where they can do budgetary-type spending. And then they have the Talking Filla Buster where they can essentially commandeer the Senate floor 24-7 for weeks if necessary. But you have to have members who are willing to do that to work those shifts. And so at the end of the day, they're in the Senate, they signed up for the job, they need to do their job because Homeland's not being funded, TSA's not being funded. Now, the administration is moving money around, but like we talked about previously, you have some of these agencies that protect us from threats, external threats, like nuclear weapons, like cyber attacks that aren't being fully funded. This is a national security issue and the Senate Democrats in particular need to get off there, you know what, and do their dang job. Look, I get it that you don't like securing our country. I get it that you don't want the border shut down, but it is and it's going to remain that way. Now do your freaking job. The amazing thing is that clearly the American people, they want a secure border. They still, despite what happened in Minneapolis and Los Angeles and so forth, people still want mass deportations and they are applauding the self deportations as well. And of course, the Save America Act is floating out there as well. I'm gonna ask you about that in a second, but it's just, it's stunning to me the tone deafness of people who are against simply keeping America secure and funding ICE and the Border Patrol. It's just the people that you know in the house that are on the other side of the aisle. Do they not understand that they're on the losing side of this argument? You know, I don't know. I think they're so driven by their agenda, but you know, I was in Memphis recently with the president and you know, people there are thankful for President Trump for bringing ICE, bringing Homeland, the surge and making their community safe again. I mean, literally had an African American woman, historically a Democrat who's a big Trump supporter now. And she said, look, my kids can go outside and play. They couldn't do that before. It was not safe for my children to go outside to play. And so that's the reality they were living under then versus today. And the simple difference is Biden versus President Trump. Trump is intentionally going after the crime-ridden cities. And Nashville, not as bad as Memphis, is on that kind of top 20 list as far as violent crime. And we're also seeing because of ICE activity in Nashville, that crime dropping. And so keep in mind, we haven't surged the National Guard into Nashville, but what we have been doing, one of the top cities in the country for deportations is Nashville and what's happening with crime. It's going down because we've been imported criminal after criminal, murders and rapists into Nashville. And so enough is enough. It's working and the people, the American people realize it. I think the biggest thing going forward is going to be oil prices and stabilizing the markets because whether it's corn, soybean or oil, the market's like stability. And so that'll be one of the focuses of the president once we secure the straight and obviously the tensions in Iran are over. How worried are you that there will be long-term, when I say long-term, I mean, these days, long-term is like a couple of years. How worried are you of the impact of the war in Iran over the past next couple of years because there are a lot of infrastructure that has been destroyed in the Middle East, not only in Iran, but in some of these other Gulf States as well. Are you worried about a two, three, four years down the line impact on gasoline prices, which could, from a political standpoint, hurt us in the midterms and possibly even the presidential? Yeah, I mean, I think the reason why we have a strategic oil reserve is so that when you have these upticks in the market prices or volatility in the market, because of disruptions in the straight or whatever, is that the president can backfill and calm the market. So there's mechanisms in place, but at the end of the day, I mean, the Gulf region as a whole wants to see regime change in Iran, because not only is Iran trying to destabilize us or attack us and attack Israel, if you're not aligned with them in the jihadi kind of mentality, they're against you as well, because you're not Muslim enough, you're not, you know, of their ideology enough. And so that's why you see some of the Gulf states either either quiet or they're assisting us in the region, because look, they're tired of the nonsense too. I mean, when you look at the UAE, they want to sell oil, they want tourism, they want prosperity, what they don't want is jihad. One of the things that, and I'm just gonna read the headline, Representative Al Green, of course, has, and I laugh when I mention Al Green only because the guy is like a caricature of a nut job Democrat. Representative Al Green, filing a resolution condemning you, Andy Ogles, for that post that you made a few weeks ago, this is the quote, Muslims don't belong in American society, pluralism is a lie. Now, that just hair on fire, you know, people just went nuts about this. You have had a lot of pushback on that post. Talk a little bit about it. Yeah, I mean, so that post was intentional in being inflammatory because I'm bringing attention to the facts that are unfolding in Europe. And this is data, like this isn't my opinion. This is simple, hard data. So you look at France, 48% of crimes committed in France. And again, keep in mind, in most of Europe, the Muslim population, the migrant population is between six and 12%, obviously it varies country to country, but it's 48% of crimes are committed by Muslims. That's from the French Interior Ministry. You know, that's a problem. When you have 8% of the population committing 48% of the crimes, look at London, 40% of sex crimes are by foreigners, most of which are Muslim. You look at Rome, 83% of 2024 street robberies were by nine EU citizens, were from Muslim countries. Sex assaults, 69%. So again, you're looking at 8% to 12% of the population committing almost 70% of the sex crimes. You look at Spain, you look at Sweden, 80% of rapists are foreign born overwhelmingly from the Middle East, specifically Afghanistan. You look at Denmark, non-Western immigrants make up 32% of rape convictions. So they don't think the way we think. And if you're coming here and you're a migrant from a third world, ladies and gentlemen, if you import the third world, you're going to get third world reality. That's a fact. And if you don't have to believe me, look at London, look at Paris, look at Rome. Sweden used to be one of the abastions of safety and tourism. Now it's behind the UK, it's the second rape capital of Europe. Why? Because of migrants they've imported, most of which are from the Middle East, specifically Afghanistan and they're Muslim. No go zones are a real thing. They're real. Not even for the police. The police will not go into sections of France and London because they're not permitted. Now think about that for a minute. You are a sovereign nation and you have a community saying you can't come here. Europe is lost if they don't change their ways. Vince Colnay's is redefining news talk with the Vince show. It is a reflection of your response to this program that we get to take this thing to the next level. These gigantic shows, this is going to be so much fun, it's unbelievable. In-depth interviews, live caller interactions and a front row seat to the most important conversations of the day. I've got updates, I've got big stories. We'll sort through the truth of what's really going on to buckle up, here it comes. The Vince show, follow and listen on your favorite platform. And I don't think that they will. Because people in Europe, I mean people who are native to Europe, they're screaming about the knife attacks. They're screaming about the children that have been killed and they're screaming about, I mean their culture is literally dissolving and the leaders won't do anything about it. Are they afraid? I have no idea, but I literally, and I don't have all the details because it's kind of a new story, but you know, as a young, I think she was 13, 14 years old and she was sexually abused, she was gang raped by 24 men and they were all Muslim and they just were passing around. And like this is what's being imported and if we don't wake up and if we don't truly vet, so I have a series of immigration bills. The first one specifically was addressing these nations that do not have proper vetting. A lot of them would be the ones you would assume, Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, et cetera. The second one is the Assimilation Act, which ends chain migration, no more H1B visas. You know, if you have an affiliation to a gang, so there's a character component to it, you cannot come in here and think about the Biden administration or the Obama administration for that matter where we literally were letting Trenda Agua and MS-13 into the country. Under my bill, that would no longer be allowed. And I have a third bill that we'll be rolling out that puts more teeth in the process of denaturalization so we can take some of these people that have claimed asylum, become citizens that hate this country, that are committing crimes and we can kick them out. A lot of people would say you're being racist. A lot of people would say, oh, this is based in hate. What would your defense to be to that? I took an oath to this country and to this constitution and to the American people, not to Europe, not to Islam, not to Socialist or Globalist. This is our country. We get to decide who comes in, we get to decide who leaves. And if that offends you, that's your problem, not mine. Go read the constitution. You know, the amazing thing is, and you and I are sympathical on this, of course, but the amazing thing is that with everything that happened during Biden's four years and we're still dealing with the ramifications of that, innocent people here in America are getting killed because of illegal aliens, wherever they may be from. And they seem to me, these people on the left, seem to be more triggered by what you're doing than being triggered by the innocent people that have been killed. Well, think about it for a minute. So we had four terrorist attacks, right? In the period of about two weeks. So you had the shooting in Virginia, you had the shooting in Texas, you had the car ramming in Michigan where they ran a car into a synagogue, you had the attempted bomb throwing in New York. And all this is happening while I'm being attacked, saying that I'm racist and Muslim people, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So you know what I did? I said, fine, let's have a conversation. So I wrote an open letter. So we have roughly between 2,900 and 3,000 mosques in the United States of America. And I wrote an open letter to every Imam in the country and said, if you're willing to stand with me, condemn the violence and can disavow the attackers, I will meet with you. I will personally meet with you and we can have a conversation and we can have a dialogue. Of those 3,000, you know how many people, how many of those Imams have accepted or done any of that? Not a single freaking one. Why? Because they quietly and silently support the violence and undoing our constitution and undermining our republic. And I'm not gonna stand by and let that happen. And so their silence is louder than anything I might say. One of the things you wanna do, and you and I talked about it a couple of months ago, I think it was, but you went to, Donald Trump wanted to restrict migration from some of these various nations that were not Muslim majority because there's a lot of Muslim majority countries out there, but they're not riddled with anti-American sentiment or terrorism. And so you have done essentially the same thing, but you wanna include other nations, if I'm not mistaken, you wanna expand that list. Talk about that expansion. Well, we should, you know, again, we are, take Afghanistan, for example. Roughly, here, let me look at my data, 45% of the Afghanis that have come into the United States are on food stamps, and 68% of Afghanis that are in the United States are on Medicaid. So we're importing people into this country, and then they immediately get food stamps and free healthcare. That's a problem. We can't afford that. So as soft-hearted as you might be, or I might be, or whomever might be, we can't afford that anymore. And so, again, if you go back to my Assimilation Act, if you come into this country, and oh, by the way, if you and I wanna go to the UAE, this would apply to us, is that you have to have a job. You have to have a way to support yourself. You can never become a citizen. You can never vote, and you have to pay their taxes. And if you break their laws, they're gonna kick you out of the country. This is a common-sense approach to immigration, and quite frankly, up until 1965, that was our approach to immigration. And then, of course, in the mid-60s, it went haywire with setup, the stage or the process for all this chain migration in this invasion of our country. All right, real quick. Save it by the way, Congressman Andy, who was joining us on Super Talk, the Save America Act, another one of those that just people are saying, why is this so complicated? Again, so this is, again, the Senate. So we've actually passed two versions of the Save America Act, so the House has passed it twice. It's over in the Senate, Thune. So keep in mind, so 83% of Americans, so this is Democrats, Republicans, independent, black, white, brown, it does not matter. Everybody agrees that you should have an ID to vote. I mean, this is across the board, 83%. It's a little higher for Republicans, it's a little lower for Democrats, but the vast majority, which is why it's 83%. And the Senate still hasn't passed us. Now, they have a talking filibuster. They could commandeer the House floor, or the Senate floor, rather. And so what I'm going to propose to our senators that once we get back tomorrow is that you have a House member, I'm willing to go to the Senate floor and partner with Mike Lee and kind of be his moral support as he's taking eight to 12 hour shift to do the talking filibuster, to stand there with him and say, look, we're in this together because we have to secure our elections. You have to have an ID to vote in Somalia. You should have to have an ID here. That statement right there, that you need an ID in Somalia, but not here is just so incredibly stunning. It's stupid. I mean, you have to have an ID to open a bank account, to the gas company. I mean, you just go down to play literally. You're going to have to prove that your kid is your kid, right? Like you have to have an ID to play little league baseball, but to vote in this country? Yeah. Come on. Like let's get back to common sense. How worried are you about the midterm elections? You know, if we do our job, the rest of it takes care of itself. Obviously, I think most elections hinge on the economy. I think there's a lot of questions around the economy right now because of the conflict in Iran and the price of oil. But as you get into the kind of the summer season, which is just around the corner, I think the president will release the strategic oil reserve. That'll stabilize markets. You'll see gas prices coming back down. And quite frankly, the president wants to end the conflict, the war in Iran quickly. I do not anticipate boots in the ground. I do not support boots on the ground, which is why we have air and sea superiority. And quite frankly, let the Persian people take Iran back. 821, 822, super talk, 997. Is there anything we've missed? I feel like it's been a pretty good wide-ranging conversation. Anything we've missed in our time here? No, I just would say I would encourage your listeners to pray for the president, pray for the leaders. We have a tough job ahead of us. And as long as we keep our eyes and sight on God, I think we'll be fine. All right, thank you very much for stopping in. We'll talk to you again soon. Have you guys been overrun? Yes. Oh my goodness gracious. It is like never ending. I posted on my Facebook page the other day. It was a screenshot of my call log. And on this particular day, I'd had like six or seven different potential spam calls. And, but I mean, basically almost every day, I'm getting at least 10 to 12. What? Yes. That's a lot. Thank you, Chris. I know it's a lot. How many, how many are you getting, Joan? Say it again. How many potential spam calls are you getting, Joan? Oh, I get a lot. But you know, it says scam likely. And I mean, I never answered them. I'm sure you don't either. But between my husband and I, it must be like 20 a day. 20 a day. Yeah, I mean, it just, it drives me nuts. Every day I'm getting more and more and more of these things. I don't know how to stop it. I guess there is a way to stop it. I just haven't figured it out yet. I'm also getting a lot of scam texts. And once I, you know, on your phone, once you hit like a delete and report spam, some of these people, once you hit that, use another number to text you back and say, what's the matter? Have you been getting too many? Yeah. Click baiting. It's so infuriating. Okay. You don't get spam calls, Chris. You have nothing to add to this part of the segment. I'm not as many as you. Okay. I mean, occasionally. I think that's cause I'm more popular than you are, Chris. That's exactly what it is. I'm totally getting it. People know that. Your phone's on some of your phone numbers on somebody's list. Have you added yourself to the do not call list? That helps, but it's not the cure. No, cause people have told me they don't even bother. Like people have said that. Probably not helping. Did I tell you what I did? Are those the people that are calling you? I don't know. Cause I don't answer it. But did I tell you what I did? I was, I was, this was about six months ago. I'm on red out radio. I accidentally gave out my cell phone. No, you didn't. I did. I gave out my cell phone. Dan. I know. And I, I was tired. I was a second time. Maybe third time that I've done that over the years. So it's a wonder. Amy says, well, I don't know, Dan. I don't know why you're, you're on all of these spam lists. And so, yeah. Listen, when you get tired, these things kind of happen. You know, I got a, I got a new listener. This guy, Tony from Canada, who's super based. And it's because he found you on, on red out radio. Oh, no kidding. Nice. He gave you all the credit. Nice. Did he do that on the air? Yeah. And then I said, but once I found your show, Chris, I knew I could sleep in a little bit. Well, you, I'm just kidding. I've made that part up. I made that part up. No, you know, I, Tony would like you because of course he, he has that kinship with you. Cause you're both Canadian. Literally the text was that day said, what is this? Chris just having family members call in. Oh, there you go. Actually, I know, I, I, I know, I remember Tony now. He, he rocks it. Tony through listening. He's a beast. We love Tony. He is man. He's awesome. All right. Real quick. So RJ, I got a picture up that I want to share with the viewing audience. Joan, I'm really, really interested in your take on the picture that right now is on, on this, on the screen. For people that are listening on the radio, I guess is that Donald Trump like pretending to be Jesus and he's like healing some dude? Yeah. So he posted this last night on, or yesterday on truth social. He's dressed in robes. He's dressed, he looks like he's dressed in Jesus, Jesus. Yeah, Jesus garb. Yeah. And he's got his right hand and he's, his hand is on the forehead of a person who is clearly, you know, in the last throws of life. And he's got, he's glowing and the American flag is behind him. And then he's got like angels and what looks like demons in the background. Yes. There looks like, it looks like a demon floating up above him in the clouds. So I just, it's funny because I just saw this and during the break, somebody actually said, what in the world is Donald Trump posting? Well, and then, I mean, people have been calling him the Antichrist like Tucker Carlson alluded to him being the Antichrist the other day. And I was like, that's a bit too far. And then, and then he posts this. I'm like, what are you doing? Why would you, I don't, I don't understand why that, doesn't he not have other better things to do? Honestly. I mean, come on. Joe, what do you think? I think that he is trolling everybody again and everybody's talking about it and everybody's talking about Donald Trump. I mean, honestly, just this is like him using bad language to describe somebody. Just ignore it, move on. It's hard to ignore it though. Like if you are a Christian, which I am, and he does this, it's almost like, and I, and I don't, I totally get what you're saying. I totally get it and I respect it. But on the other side, it's like, why would you do this? To troll Tucker Carlson. I mean, it's a single, it's a single troll. But a lot of people are upset about it. Usually the comments on the true social posts are an echo chamber, like full disclosure. Like everybody's like, yeah, you go get a Mr. President. This time it's completely different. What do you call it, a ratio? Yeah, first comment says, Mr. President, with all due respect, take this down, you are not Jesus. Even if this wasn't the intention, this is not a good look. Renee says that's actually blasphemy. Beth says blasphemy. Yep. You know, yeah. Yeah. The more I look at the figures in the back and you can tell me if I'm wrong, Dan, does it look like it's supposed to be the village people in the sky? Oh, geez. I don't know, was one of the village people a demon? The guy up front's like hitting the YMCA pose. That's all I can see. Oh, he's got four arms. I don't think, I think that's wings. Those are wings. Yeah, those are wings. Actually. They look like hands on the top. Oh, does he have four? I don't know. Looks like four arms. I wanna know where he got this from. Oh wait, he's healing somebody, is that? Yeah, he's healing somebody. Easy answer, AI. Everybody says the person he's healing is Jeffrey Epstein. That's what the internet's been saying. Is that what the internet says? That that's Jeffrey Epstein that he's healing? Yep. It'll late. I'm okay. I don't see the marks on his neck, so. The lick of your marks. Neither did the coroner. Yeah. Almost. Ha ha ha. Moving around a lot. I don't know, Joe. I don't know, whatever. I don't know, you know what, I'm. I just think like he just keeps stepping in it. Like, dude. Hold on, 4167 says that's supposed to be Uncle Sam. He is healing. Really? It doesn't look like Uncle Sam. It doesn't look like Uncle Sam. No. No. This is a mess. And then at the same time, he's starting beef with the Pope. Yeah. Yeah, but I got to beef with the Pope too. Yeah. Like I don't like with the. But you gotta just not look down and keep moving forward. There's 55 million Catholics in this country. Why? Why on earth would you need to start a fight with the Pope? 9223, Trump is trolling the Pope, which is. He's trolling the Pope. He's trolling Tucker. He's trolling Amal. I mean, I hope the troll is worth eternal damnation. You know what I mean? Like what are we doing? People are saying this is not how you win the midterms. I totally get that. I think midterms are done. It's a wash. Like let's be perfectly honest. I was trying to remain as optimistic as I could be. And I was waiting for this four to six week timeline, but we're up. It's up. And now we're doing a blockade. We're screwed. We're blocking the blockade, which by the way is going to send oil prices even higher. The midterms are screwed. They're screwed. We're gonna have a lame duck president. We're gonna be dealing with impeachments. And then in the meantime, the Senate can't do anything. Imagine if they had nuked the filibuster three months ago when these talks originally came up. How much further down the field we would be? Chris, you're so young and naive. They're not going to be going after impeachments. They're going to be going after arrests. Yeah, fair. You know what I mean? I just kidding about the young and naive. You're just young. You know what makes me really uncomfortable on this picture? What's that? Is the woman to the left of president, actually to his right, praying and she's looking up at him with folded prayer hands. Okay, I'm much more uncomfortable. I kind of glanced at it early this morning and just blew by it. Sure, yeah. And now I'm thinking I really don't like this. Not only at all. There's so much stuff that is going on right now with, I mean, the economy, just, okay, so to what you're saying, Chris, and I did mention this earlier, is that even if this thing wrapped up today, which is not going to, even if it wrapped up today, it's going to take a long time for that infrastructure to be fixed in the Middle East, because a lot of that infrastructure has gone boom. So we have that and it may- That's the technical term, gone boom. Gone boom. And then by the way, I've been well-danned. Don't let me forget to talk about why I've been well-danned by the supertextors. Okay. But a lot of that infrastructure has been destroyed, not only by us with Iran, but also Iran with some of these Gulf states, the oil infrastructure. So it's going to take a couple of years for all of that to be fixed, which means that oil prices to get back to where they were pre-Iran war, we're not talking about midterms. We may not even be talking about the presidential election, and people are saying, man, just don't be a panicking. I'm like being a panicking. We're being realistic. We're being realistic. So, I mean, I don't know. Robert said, as usual, Chris, calm down. Like, I've been pretty calm. I've been pretty optimistic, 4682, this picture has discouraged me more than anything he's done. I'm looking at what people are saying. I thought you guys, let's see. Sure, what does Charlie say? Looks like Charlie's going to yell at us. Charlie said, I thought you guys are Christians. The Pope claims to have taken Jesus' place on earth. That would be Catholics. That's different. Thank you. That's a little different. Yeah. And no disrespect to Catholics. I know a lot of Catholics. I was raised Catholics. I'm not anti-Catholic. But there's differences. Yeah. And I went a little hard on the Pope today. I always get nervous going after the Pope because he just says some stuff that really makes me mad. I like how you say, I always get nervous going after the Pope. It's something that happens quite often. Yeah, it's been, Joan, have I ever, since I've worked with you for the past, what, year and a half, have I ever gone after the Pope? Don't think so. Yeah, no, it's like every couple of years, kind of like a midterm election, I've served a couple of years. I go after the Pope. But anyway, so I just, I don't know what the upside is to this kind of a photo. And I still support the president. But do you know what? Just like if you have a friend that does stupid stuff, you ever have a friend that does stupid stuff? That's President Trump to me sometimes. Why? Why do you do that? Why are you, why are you, why are you your own worst enemy? It is what I would say. Honestly, honestly. So, and you think about- Chris, this is for D.Chess. That's, it's infuriating to hear that. But when you think about the biggest missteps that he's had this- Hi, I'm Joe Salci. Hi, host of the Stackin' Benjamins podcast. You know what? A lot of us get taxes wrong. Filing your taxes is basically data entry. There's been this trend of people going, oh, it's so cool to file my taxes in August. It's so awesome. Don't worry, I have an extension. It'll be fine. I like totally do it later. Stop. Do your friggin' taxes now. That was a really good fashion voice. Did you like it? You do that more frequently, please? Yes, every show for now. I hope you like that. Stackin' Benjamins, follow and listen on your favorite platform. Term. Every single one of them have been self-inflicted. I'm thinking. I'm thinking. I'm thinking you're probably right. I'm thinking there's a lot of things that he does that are self-inflicted. I mean, this is a great example. Yes. Like I would just say, I didn't see this, you brought this in to me, and I saw I'm sort of reacting to this in real time. It's insane. Like why would we need to do this? I don't know. Again, not to belabor the point with so many things going on. I don't know why this would be your priority for today, especially when you're blockading the blockade. I don't know, whatever. Anyway. It's a mess. Let's see. Do we have anything fun and happy to talk about? Usually this is the fun and happy segment. And do we have nothing fun and happy? Oh, the well dance. This is the happiest I can go with the well dance. Self deprecating. That's the best I can do. That's exactly right. I had said, Joan, you may have to help me out on this, but I had said something like, how good are we at taking out these little speed boats that Iran apparently has? Right. And people are like, why don't you ask Venezuelan num nuts? We took out like 20 of them. Remember the Venezuelan speed boats? Oh, yeah. So thank you, supertextures. I appreciate that. So on the other hand of that, what I've been reporting this morning is that Iran has like as many as 5,000 of them. Right. So, there may be something about that. Listen, they need to send them like one at a time to make it really easy on us. You know what I mean? And I don't know how many, can we take them out with a drone? We must be able to take out a speed boat with the drone. Yeah. Like, did we talk about this? We were destroying these speed boats, these drug speed boats from Venezuela with missiles. And Joan, we talked about this. That seems like overkill. Like, why would you use a big old missile to take out a little drone boat? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And whatever. I mean, I like bad guys blown to smithereens. It's effective. It is effective. That's exactly right. Except for that one where the guys tried to get back on the boat, so they had to use two missiles. 7788, Chris, amazing restraint when Manda's asked, have you ever had a friend that does stupid things? Tell about me, of course, right? I would assume. Hey, speaking of which, have you seen Matt Murphy mess around? Did you see what he did on the socials? I posted it to Dan Manda's show. So I guess this might be a new Murphy show bit where he had a hidden camera. He walks up to Jackson, is in the little room over there, and they had to do like an intervention with Jackson's wallet. Because Jackson's wallet is like packed with crap. It's like a Costanza wallet? It's like a Costanza wallet. And so they started going through poor Jackson's wallet. I don't know if this was set up or not. They started going through poor Jackson's wallet. He had like a couple of old AAA cards, both expired. Receipts from like, you know, 1999 and all kinds of expired credit cards. Receipts from 1999? Yeah, he had, oh, I'm sorry. He was born in like 94. Wallet, he probably got it from his mom for his McDonald's Happy Meal. I don't know, but I'm saying that he just, he had all kinds of stuff in his wallet. And it's like, I would caution dear Jackson, who we all love, even though he called me a moron, we all love Jackson. And if you have a wallet that thick and you're sitting on it, it can throw your entire back out of alignment. So it's very funny. So if you haven't seen it yet, go check it out. It's on Murphy Show's page or my page at Facebook, Super Talk, blah, blah. I mean, that's dangerous for Jackson because his back already hurts from carrying the afternoon show. So. Oh. You know what I mean? Like to do anything else. Yeah, sure. I'm worried about him. Mm-hmm. I get that. Wow, you went there. What? What? I'm just, I'm saying what we're all thinking, you know? Okay, very good. Hey, what are we doing? You're pointing to me. We got to go. All right, RJ's telling us we got to go. RJ's nervous. He gets a little panicked when he's a little bit over. RJ, don't be a panicking. Don't be a panicking. We got this. I'm not panicking, just watching the clock. He learned the windmill of doom from Mason. Listen, RJ, at least someone is watching the clock, which is more than I can say for the three of us. 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