Pam Bondi CRASHES OUT?! | Guest: Pam Bondi | 2/11/26

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So bear with us if a mic comes on late or isn't on right away or a camera doesn't switch as quickly as someone's talking is what you're accustomed to. We're getting the bugs out of this backup automation system that Aaron has MacGyvered for us. And so you guys are kind of the guinea pigs today. If you guys would be patient with us, we would appreciate that. All right. Coming up on today's program, it's a Wednesday. You guys know the drill. All right. We're going to play buy, sell, or hold. Coming up, we'll start that at the bottom of the hour. We'll get through as many of those as we can. What remains, we'll get to in the overtime. And then we'll be joined by the prophet of woe and lamentation, Daniel Horowitz, right here, right after. We first find out from Aaron what happened while we were away. What happened while we were away brought to you by Mystery Solved in El Paso. We woke up to the news this morning that the Federal Aviation Administration had issued a 10-day basic ground stop for any and all aviation above El Paso, Texas, airspace, including aviation like medical evac missions. If the notice to airmen had stuck, it would have been the biggest ground stop in scale since 9-11. But this morning, the FAA indicated the effectual ground stop had been lifted. Multiple media outlets then reported the Trump administration and Pentagon sources indicated to them that Mexican cartel drones had breached U.S. airspace and that American assets stationed at Fort Bliss near El Paso had disabled them. Here's what Trump said about the fight over cartels just earlier this week. By knocking out those boats, we have dropped drugs, fentol, about 33%. And now we're going to start on land. We had to do the boats first. What a wacky way to wake up on a Wednesday morning. The Nielsen ratings are in for the Super Bowl, and the average viewership for the game was down by about 3 million from last year's event. More people, according to Nielsen, actually tuned in for the halftime show than the average for the game itself. but the halftime numbers were down this year by about 5 million compared to last year's Kendrick Lamar performance. Canada was reeling Wednesday after a shooter killed nine people and injured 25 others in a remote town in northeastern British Columbia. It's the third deadliest shooting in the country's history. Seven people were found dead in Tumblr Ridge Secondary School, including a person believed to be the shooter who died from what appeared to be a self-inflicted injury, according to Superintendent Ken Floyd of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Two other people were found dead in a local residence that the police believed was connected to the shooting. Authorities as of this morning have still not publicly released the name of the shooter, but independent reports circulating online say he was a dude pretending to be a woman. Listen to how the local RCMP district chief, the aforementioned Ken Floyd, describes the shooter. That includes the deceased gun person. Reuters this morning reported the shooter was a quote-unquote woman. Do with that information what you will. Back in D.C., President Trump on the same day endorsed both Florida Congressman Corey Mills and Congresswoman Maria Salazar for re-election. Oh, no! We suck again! Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick testified before Congress yesterday, stating he did indeed have a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein even after the sex traffickers' first big run-in with the justice system over sex crimes. Lutnick had previously insisted he was disgusted by Epstein and had cut off all contact. House Speaker Mike Johnson was asked if he thinks Lutnick should step down. Of course not. It's absurd. Howard Lutnick is a great Commerce Secretary. He's done an extraordinary job for the country. And Thomas Massey should step down. New government numbers are out on hiring data, claiming the U.S. added a much stronger than expected 130,000 jobs last month and that the unemployment rate dropped to 4.3%. This data countersignals a new report from job placement firm Challenger Gray & Christmas, which said last week their tracking showed the highest number of layoffs to begin a year since 2009. And finally, an interesting dichotomy of viral videos over the past few days. We go to the Upside Down and the Land Down Under. First, the Upside Down, also known as New Hampshire, where a resurfaced clip went viral over the past few days, showing state lawmaker Amanda Toll a couple of years ago holding her weak old baby daughter while shilling at the statehouse for the right to baby murder. When I was a teenager, I accessed abortion care that has allowed me to go to college, to graduate school, to receive an MED, to teach and to be a state representative. And it allowed me to have my children when I was ready, both physically and emotionally, including the baby girl I gave birth to just last week. And now we go from the upside down to the land down under where this young Australian woman held a newborn baby for the first time and proves the old magic is still undefeated. Oh my God, I need to have a kid. I need to have a... Oh my God. Oh, he's so weird. That's what happened while we were away. Obviously, Aaron's montage, further confirmation. We're in an all-out spiritual war here for the soul of the West and what's left of it. If you want to enlist with us right now, it's the least expensive. We can make it. Get the $20 off for an annual subscription to Blaze TV so you don't miss all of our content, including all the good exclusive stuff. and even go back and watch the exclusive stuff maybe you missed before. Go to blazetv.com slash DACE. Use the code DACE to get $20 off at blazetv.com slash DACE. It comes out to about $0.26 or so a day, $8 a month. blazetv.com slash DACE, code DACE. All right, let's get to the montage. I think the Mexican drug cartel drones just got lost. I do not. No? because that kind of feels like it was maybe a test. Yeah, that's what I told Aaron before the show when we were talking about it. Yeah. Well, there's something that's, according to Jennifer Jacobs, didn't she used to work at the Register? Yeah, she's with Bloomberg now, right? CBS News. Okay, so she moved from Bloomberg to CBS. The unexpected airspace closure in El Paso stemmed from disagreements over drone-related tests. Pentagon had undertaken extensive planning on use of military tech near Fort Bliss. Two sources identified the technology as a high-energy laser. Earlier this week, the tech was used to shoot down what appeared to be foreign drones. The flying material turned out to be a party balloon. One balloon was shot down. FAA Administrator Brian Bedford last night decided to close the airspace without alerting the White House, Pentagon, or Homeland Security. So it sounds like an FAA administrator kind of went rogue. Again, sources. Or is that statement maybe preferable to they're testing our airspace? Yes. And we prefer to say things like we're going to put drug cartels on the terror watch list and treat them as such. We prefer that to actually treating them as such. Right? See what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of a lack of will, just as a follow-up, this took place in the United States Congress here just in the last hour. And I want everybody to know whose fault this is that I am even going to remotely appear to be favorable to Jerry Nadler. I want all of you to know that I hate you. I hate you with the heat of a thousand, ten thousand, and an infinite number of suns. So as we speak right now, within the last hour, Pam Bondi has been testifying. And let me tell you, if you're on social media, you're going to get inundated with the grifter core. Bondi gave it to him. Nobody cares. In fact, I just shared one of their tweets and just tweeted to the guy. Nobody cares. Do something. Nobody cares. Do something. This is Bill Barr with a snotty sip of water doing nothing. Nobody cares about Pam Bondi putting double-digit IQ retard Democrats on blast verbally. And if you do care, do me a favor, will you? Stop listening to our show. You're too dumb to listen. And I mean it. There's 150 other shows you'll listen to. Go there. Go there. we're insulted you're part of our audience we think you got here by accident maybe just stammered into the wrong show we're not for you go somewhere else tell candace i said hello jerry nadler asked pam bondy how many of epstein's co-conspirators have you indicted bondy quote you showed dash dash i find it funny nadler how many of you indicted pam bondy turns to Jim Jordan, chairman of the committee. Chairman Jordan, I'm not going to get in the gutter with these people. How ineffective do you have to be to lose the moral high ground to whatever Jerry Nadler is, do you think? Vanta. How dishonest do you have to be? How ineffective do you have to be for Jerry Nadler to outflank you? So Jerry Nadler's idea of the moral high ground, dude could not vertical leap a phone book. And that's also probably true in real life, if we're being honest. If you've lost the moral high ground to Jerry Nadler, that has to be a purposeful act. Like, you couldn't accidentally do that. Like, you couldn't be like, oh, wow, Jerry got me. Everybody gets got one day. It can't happen. It cannot happen. You cannot lose the moral high ground to Jerry Nadler. It's impossible. There are greater odds. I will speak at CPAC, especially after this segment. Greater odds. Monkeys ensconced in my rectum will soar forth from my sphincter hole. Now. In the next five minutes. then you can lose the moral high ground to Jerry Nadler by accident or he just got you or you didn't see that one coming you have to be malignantly purposeful you have to be a malignant force to put yourself in such a corner that Jerry Nadler got the jump on you Why are we expending political capital for Howard Lutnick? Does anybody know? Mr. Let's just, you know, we do this all the time in one direction. Let's do it on the other. Democrats have a majority in Congress. We find out, and they're in the White House, and we find out one of their cabinet secretaries lied about his interactions with Jeffrey Epstein. And then after lying, admitted, yeah, well, I mean, I even took my family to Epstein Island, as one does, to have lunch. And according to Roseanne Barr, Howard Letnick might have been dining on more than meets the eye. So, shoes on the other foot. What is every show we have on our network and every network saying right now? What are they all saying? You're fired. Yeah. I don't know if you guys are aware. We have the president's favorite pollster doing polls that show Biden is a favorability of plus eight over Trump. That's his favorite pollster. I don't know. I want, like to win, and I'm going to humbly suggest we're not in any kind of position to just be just wasting political capital. Certainly not for Howard Lutnick. Yeah. I asked Grok, how strict are Canada's gun laws? Let me read to you what Elon Musk's AI wrote back. Canada's gun control laws are among the strictest in the world, outside of places with near total bans like the UK and Australia. And they are significantly stricter than those in the United States. Firearms are federally regulated under the Firearms Act and Criminal Code with uniform rules across all provinces and territories. They're not even patchwork like here in the United States. As of early 2026, key aspects of Canada gun laws include, quote, licensing is mandatory for all owners. You need a possession and acquisition license in Canada or what's called a PAL, P-A-L. Doesn't that sound like, doesn't that sound Orwellian? in order to have a restricted version of any gun, which requires passing the Canadian firearms safety course, a thorough background check, including mental health flags, domestic violence history, and requires references, like a job application, a spousal partner notification in some cases, must be renewed every five years, and you are under continuous eligibility monitoring. So firearms are classified in three categories, hunting rifles, handguns, and semi-automatics, which are considered restricted, and then prohibited any kind of assault-style weapon or semi-automatic firearm, like an AR-15 variant, something similar. you missed the small print though that says unless you're trans because yeah you can use whatever bathroom or gun you want to then canada has fewer guns per capita than the u.s about 35 per 100 people to 120 per 100 people here in the u.s that's about what four times for about 400 fewer there's no second amendment in Canada no constitutional right to bear arms let me type this in next how friendly or how much friendlier to transgenderism is Canada compared to the U.S. pardon me I'm doing this in real time Grok is doing the math it is pointing out all of the it's doing the math I can see it calling up with its headers and they're all pointing out how much friendlier Canada is to tranny madness than the United States is way more federal protections for trainees in Canada compared to the U.S. No restrictions on trainee-ism compared to the U.S. They're not restricted from the military like they currently are in the U.S. Gender identity is a national discrimination protected class in Canada. no restrictions on legal gender recognition in Canada, according to Grok. You can apply for asylum in Canada on grounds of gender identity persecution. So even amidst that utopia, everyone still needs to die. the rainbow jihad equality index ranks as of 2026 ranks canada 81 out of 100 and the u.s 56 out of 100 so i mean canada is quite literally bending over backwards on behalf of the spirit of the age and successfully disarming its citizens at the rate the spirit of the age finds acceptable as well And yet, it wakes up today and sadly is not immune to said spirit of the age, is it? Not at all. It's given all the accommodations. Well, you right-wingers, you make these people crazy because you won't affirm they're crazy. Well, the right-wingers are the crazies in Canada. With a few exceptions, Canada is California as a nation. And yet, sadly, a lot of parents are burying their children here in the next couple days or going to hospitals in Canada hoping that they won't have to. Because of the same spirit of the age, it has gone out of its way to accommodate and affirm by calling the rest of us who know better Nazis, homophobes, racists, and bigots, right? indeed you know when anna when aaron talked about uh that australian girl holding the baby that's what we call in a culture war a factory reset i mean how much you know third wave feminism has she probably been fed down her throat right all of a sudden holds a baby for the first time and she's like oh that's a factory reset i I mean, she's going back to her default settings as a woman. We can't outrun the old magic has a couple meanings, parallel. Most of the time we say it as a positive, that as far as we run away from the way we were made and from the way the universe was created, we still can't outrun those truths, right? They're timeless. They're eternal, right? Mm-hmm. But it applies the other way, too. And that's what Canada is waking up, sadly, to today. It has done everything the spirit of the age has asked of it. And this is how the spirit of the age rewards their fealty. Cannot run that old magic, either. Gentlemen, your thoughts? Maybe we should send Pam Bondi up to Canada. Maybe she can figure out what went wrong. She's doing such a crack-up job here. Didn't she also say something like, you know, if we pull on every thread in the Epstein list, this thing all comes apart, which is what we've been talking about the show in a while, whatever motivations. As bad as that is, that its tentacles are festering everywhere, that in order to get work done on some level, we just need to move on. Well, if we just had to move on, it would mean we're getting a lot of work done. A lot of work done that you would, putting such a horror in your rearview mirror would mean because we are peddled to the metal on all these blessings. How are things going with the SAVE Act? How are things going with all the legislation? How are things going with the polling that wonder, you know, whether Trump's starting to lose his fastball? Are we getting all that stuff done that makes it worth putting such a heinous thing in our rearview mirror? See, this is a key argument that you're making here. Because morally, this is dumb. I mean, morally, this is absolutely reprehensible. Yes. This may have, I mean, okay, I think we would all agree on that. Yes. politically I think what we would not agree on well it's not that we wouldn't agree that this is true but it gets really subjective in terms of how we agree on how it should be applied in an imperfect fallen world where all creation groans with sin you know kind of the Gene Kirkpatrick theory of foreign policy that you're just not going to get a good and righteous person in charge of every one of these cultures on earth in fact several of these cultures are incapable of producing such a person so we just need to recognize this and at that point if the guy's a fiend but at least is our fiend and we'll do what we want and that's the best we can get in the interest of the united states that's that's that kind of applies universally to some extent when it comes to human nature in a fallen sinful world okay and now the debate becomes the extent right and we're going to have we're getting very subjective about that and how much of this are we allowed to tolerate before it tarnishes our own witness right okay and and and and those are arguments that are needed and must be had We have not even reached the So forget let just take the morality of the Epstein morass out of this for a second We have not even reached a political threshold where this debate should be occurring We getting nothing There nothing to be gained I mean let me just speak to the White House in their language. I have largely stayed out of the Thomas Massey thing. I know Thomas Massey. I like Thomas Massey. He's been a fairly good congressman. But the reality of it is this. I'm trying to save America. And even though I agree with Thomas Massey on quite a bit, at this point, Donald Trump is a way more valuable figure in my mission than Thomas Massey is. On the other hand, I still agree with Thomas Massey on quite a bit. So what do I do when strategically in my, again, this is my estimation and guess, and since it's my show, I'm the one that gets to make those estimations. And when it's your show and when you have one or your house, you can make the estimations you want. But since it's mine and my house, I'm going to make the estimations that I believe. And so therefore, I've been, I've sat here for the last few months while Thomas Massey and Trump and the Trump White House have gone back and forth. You don't notice I've been just completely silent on it. Because while I am sympathetic to Massey, strategically, Trump is just a way more valuable asset right now in our war. Now, how do I reconcile that? I just stay silent and, you know, they're going to fight, not going to stop it, let them have their fight, Right. But whatever you thought the odds that you're going to take time, if you're the Trump political team, whatever you thought the odds were, you were going to take the you were to take Massey out three months ago. They've dropped. Exactly. You've dropped. You've gained nothing out of this. So your own political ambitions, well, let's get rid of Massey because we'll get somebody in there that's more loyal to the president. OK, I understand. I'm not I understand why they would want that. I totally get that. Right. That being said, this isn't going to get you closer to your stated goal. You're not gaining anything from this. Allowing CNN to go, but Secretary Lutnik, as we line up 5,000 Dems all over the emails with Epstein doing only a lot, literally notes, a fellow demon, so that CNN can run with to 20% of the country normie voter, and then the Republicans are hiding Howard Lutnick. What are we gaining from that? Does that make any sense at all? Should Howard Lutnick be the fulcrum of whataboutism? None. It makes absolutely none. None. In fact, this is Thomas Massey's entire re-election campaign. Forget the morality of it for a second, because I think you're right. Let's talk about it just strictly as a political calculation. We gained nothing by not releasing these files way earlier. The leverage isn't going in our way, and Lisa Markowski just proved that. She doesn't feel like she's going against it gladly. Correct. This has been completely—you know who else I saw say this this morning? I saw Mark Mitchell, the Rasmus in pollster, and Rich Barris, who's another very pro-Trump pollster. And we've had Rich on our show. He's a smart guy. They both said this has been completely and totally politically mismanaged. Completely. day one we should have done this and that and this and we shouldn't have taken a week to come out with the story that trump called the local authorities in palm beach to say hey thank you for getting and galane maxwell's even worse is what he told him i've read it now we should that should have been day one yeah that should have been the day one header these come out right when we promised everybody as soon as we could do it last winter and the day one header is that's the first story that comes out and just so everybody's listening to steve because steve has been counseling you we are going to have to eat some crap sandwiches generationally this one you didn't have to eat a crap this is totally unnecessary you want to totally self-inflicted none of this had to happen none of it did none of it did which which leads you to think there are things we don't know that must be bad and that's not something you want to seep into any corner of your base you don't want to black pill your own base with stuff like that there was politically this has been totally and completely mismanaged on our side. Aaron, your thoughts on this or anything else? So how do you manage to lose the moral high ground to Jerry Nadler? I don't know if you've seen a top of head to sole of feet photo of Jerry Nadler, but I'm pretty sure 97% of the population has the moral high ground on Jerry Nadler just by standing up. I don't know if you've ever seen Jerry Nadler try to walk. He doesn't walk. He waddles. I'm pretty sure 99.9% of the population could outmaneuver Jerry Nadler just by walking. Being outmaneuvered and giving up the moral high ground to Jerry Nadler is not a crap sandwich. It's a crap sandwich with corns in the turd. this is utterly ridiculous and to utterly meaningless and unnecessary. And we've got to hold the bag for this. That's a pretty tough, that's a pretty, pretty tough ask. And I think a lot of people, especially given the uncertainty around the economy, the uncertainty on a number of issues. I'm not totally sure that many people are going to step up to the plate to hold this bag. That should be frightening if you're in the White House. I just want to win. That's it. And that's very, and Aaron, you're exactly right. It's that crappy of a sandwich that you made yourself and forced yourself to eat. I just want to win, man. That's all I want to do. I want to win. And I don't think this is going to get us the desired result. Bye. Seller hold is next. The Steve day show. You know, every day, we as Americans, we get to make choices that can shape our country's future. Among them, you know, and maybe you've not thought about it this way before, but among them, which mobile phone provider we support. Because here's the thing. You can go to one of the big communist companies, and for many years, I did the same thing. Until one day in 2020, T-Mobile sent out a mass text saying, you're going to start censoring your text messages for misinformation. information. And that's when I got a hold of Patriot Mobile that very day. We made the switch as a family. 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But you want to join with them today, go to PatriotMobile.com slash Steve. When you use the offer code Steve, they'll get you started with a free month of service. A free month of service with the offer code Steve at PatriotMobile.com slash Steve. And with that, let's play some buy, sell, or hold. You guys know how this works. Aaron has your submissions. Todd, you and I have yet to see any of them. Aaron has selected the ones we're about to see. We will go through each one. We will determine whether we buy it, whether we sell it. We get through as many of these as we can over the course of the next 50 minutes or so. What remains, we will do in the overtime for our subscribers today at blazetv.com slash days. You are permitted to hold, after all. That is the third part of the game. But holding is considered such an act, such a debased act against your own masculinity that you must be debased as a penalty. in response. So Todd, if you should choose to hold, I will hook you up to a chair, clockwork orange style, and I will make, I'll tape your eyelids open and your mouth shut, and I will make you watch Jerry Nadler get the moral high ground on Pam Bondi over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again until you scream out for Lindsey Graham's help. That's what I will do. Lent is almost here. It's time to suffer. That might be the most suffering penalty I have suggested yet over the years. Indeed. All right, Aaron, let's fire away. May I give a shout out to someone? Of course. I need to give out a shout out to Jill Rubel. Probably a very nice lady. This is commitment. Anytime I make a syntax error, no matter how small she's on it or or intentionally she is on it and I just want to she makes a really good point here at taste producer the plural of corn is corn so I said corns when discussing the contents of feces I need to make that correction thank you Jill that is dedication that's a dedicated listener right there Cue up the Nadler. All right. And with that, I think we're ready. All right. Shiniest Damon says Aaron will pick the same five submitters for the 100th week in a row. I'm going to sell you. You don't pick the same five over and over again, do you? I don't think so. I don't think so. I pick some of the same people because they're kind of good at this. Yeah. But like, you know, he hasn't done this and it's been like a couple of years, but I mean, how many years do we do this where Constatitis or Dydas was in this every single week, right? Who's this? Who said this? Shiniest Damon. Have we had them before? I don't think so. Okay. But I mean, our policy is, you know, we would not let you do like five of them, but our policy is to get the best submissions on the air. You know, we're a meritocracy here. And if there's a few of you that are just better than everybody else, well, that's everybody else's problem, right? we just want to get the best submission. We're not here doing agency and representation. I mean, we're just here for the best submissions that'll make for the best content. I mean, maybe just maybe if you talked about the plural of corn being corn, you'd get on more often. I mean, just saying, try harder. Chris Goble says William Wolf in a suit is better than Steve Dace in a Michigan Jersey, but Todd in Jedi robes would be better than both. Oh, I'll buy that. A hundred percent. And with the scruff and stuff there, I mean, Todd has a Jedi look to him, don't you think, Aaron? He does. He's got the built-in Obi-Wan. He absolutely does. I mean, he could pull it off very easily for sure. You do look like a Jedi master, my friend. You do. Thank you. You know, kind of that rustic look. You got that about you. Throw the right brown robe on you. You know? What's Todd's Jedi name, do you think? Okay. Any thoughts on that, Aaron? i think the submissions are coming in as we speak yeah i mean two gone instead of qui-gon two gone yeah yeah i like that you like that one two gone yeah what do you think we were just superimposed onto something star wars recently i think i love the fact that people people always demand that I'm the one who gets the red lightsaber. You understand the assignment. Thank you. I appreciate that. How about Ki Tati Mundi? I like that. Next, we go to Steve Friend. Replace Pam Bondi with Ro Khanna. Buy, sell, or hold. Steve, it is an absolute travesty. what happened to you professionally, but you, my friend, have found a way to make lemonade out of lemons. I mean, you are in your... You've found a new gear in your life in terms of your social media presence. Yeah, I mean, you're dialed in, my friend. Let me, first of all, Steve, bye. But secondly, let me give you two reasons why this is just politically moronic. And there isn't some kind of sinister thing awaiting us that was the reason why our guys decided to just make their own crap sandwich and force it down their own throats on the Epstein front. I'm going to give you two reasons why. And I'm pretty confident when I give you these two reasons you're all going to agree with me. Number one, there is simply no way an entire party infested with Trump derangement syndrome whose followers jump on TikTok while pregnant to say, here I am, here I am at Kroger and I'm taking every Tylenol here in the aisle. Watch me take a hundred of these. No, by golly, do not, do not, do not tell me that hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin may work. Trump's trying to kill me. I mean, I think we're far better off staying in our basements and masking our children forever. those people, if those people had the drop in the goods on Trump taking part in whatever occultic rituals were going on at Epstein Island, we would know, number one. And you certainly, well, Steve, you can go with the argument. They didn't, there was mutually assured destruction. Right, because that's what the Democrats have shown. They're real concerned about mutually assured destruction in the last few years. They've shown this kind of strategic restraint in their politicking. of you guys. We talk about that all the time. Wow, look how restrained. Isn't that a frequent topic of conversation around here the last five, six years, right? But I'll go with it because I know some of you that are smart think this way. What's holding them back for the last couple weeks since this drop came? Nothing, right? They're the ones taking on the predominant amount of embarrassment here, right? So, okay, even if that was your original argument, that they didn't do it for the last few years when they were in charge because they were concerned about the blowback on their side by opening Pandora's box. Well, we opened Pandora's box here about two weeks ago with this latest file dump, right? Yes. So why didn't they do it yesterday? Why didn't they do it the day before that? Why didn't they do it right now? Why didn't they do it in the next 10 minutes? If they had it, all that mutual assured destruction deterrent is out the window now, right? Okay? So then if they had the goods, they'd use them, right? But if that piece of evidence doesn't convince you, Here's the Steve Friend is the second. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever they should not have just given these FBI whistleblowers all of their back pay. All right, you don't want him in. You don't think you can re-ingratiate him. Again, Steve, forget I'm your friend for a second. Pretend we're them. Okay, we can't put him back in. We have nowhere to put him. Fine. Whatever. Okay. Call the Xerox machine over there at the Treasury. All right. Hey, we just need you to print off such and such amount of money for Kyle Serafim and Steve Friend and all the rest of these guys. And we're going to make them have all their back pay plus an award. Thanks on behalf of a grateful nation. On one condition, we just need to have you guys sign this and keep your mouth shut. But by all means, you're welcome to be heroes and have a nice career in local law enforcement or doing private security. And they probably all sign it, I'm guessing. A lot would. Yeah. Yeah. and then you don't have them peeing into your tent, right? Which is exactly what is going on every single day right now, right? That's how you know there's not some deep, dark secret we're concerned about hiding, and we're just this bad at this. We're just this dumb. Because there's precedent for being this dumb. There's precedent for it. How we handle the FBI whistleblowers is precedent for the fact, wow, some of our people are really just this retarded. next disagree no yeah see i'm not i'm not fearful of any kind of like oh no i mean they they caught trump in a wearing a boar's head on epstein island in 20 in 2004 drinking the the you know the the blood of animals okay as it was fed to him by mr epstein himself i'm not concerned about any of that because we'd know if they did. And we also know some of these people, Pam Bondi, looking at you, kid, are this terrible and retarded at this because they just would have bought off the FBI whistleblowers and given them a plaque on behalf of a grateful nation and moved on with the rest of their lives instead of undercut those guys and then left them out there in the gen pop to just undercut literally everything they do all day long. It's just beyond stupid and retarded. I'm looking up the polymarket odds for Pam Bondi going out. I can't find it. Because she's crashing out this morning. Dr. Warren Albrecht is next. Thomas Massey does not deserve to get primaried by a Trump pick. Buy, sell, or hold. does not deserve to buy that. As a general rule, I'm not sure I like the language of using deserved where politicians are concerned. So I will sell. Just as a general rule. It seems to indicate that they have achieved, as far as I'm concerned, you may have whatever answer you want. I'm Steve, you're Todd. But Steve's answer is, I just, I don't like the language of deserved. I don't like I don't like that. I also think politics is more complicated and nuanced than often we understand. Okay. A lot of you in this audience will applaud the times that Massey has gone against, the few times, because the truth of the matter is Massey votes the president's way like 92% of the time. Okay. There's some number like that. But those few times that he has not have been things that are very important to the president. Whether he's right is a different topic, but they've been important to him. And what he doesn't like is people who get to his right and don't do everything that he says. And most kings don't. Most kings don't. Most kings, even good kings, aren't like actively out there looking for people to usurp them, even good kings, you know. So there's more to that dynamic, then it's not ideological, it's personal. It's ideological to you and me, because our names aren't Thomas Massey and Donald Trump. All right. But between the two men, it's personal, not ideological at all. I agree that that's the word I'm stuck on. I'm just going in the opposite direction and buying only because the way I read that landscape, like Trump hasn't been backed into some corner where he has no choice but to get rid of Thomas Massey. I mean, again, Congress, the SAVE Act, it's not like everything else would just be clipping along just fine if it wasn't for Thomas Massey. If that was the case, I would say, Thomas, you haven't earned my lifetime right to be here. It might just be your time to go, but that's not what is happening. And it's because of what Steve said. This is just personal. Dan Hammer says, our lost connection with Tim Burch during our interview with him, the lingering questions about Bongino and the Epstein files all have the same really bad answer. I mean... In a very vast, broad sense, yes. In a specific sense, probably not. Maybe not. in the broad sense that we live in a fallen world, then yes, obviously. In more specific sense, you know, spell that out. Maybe we can talk about that. So you're going to buy this, Todd? I'll buy it, but it's more specific than just being in a fallen world. I mean, being... He's saying that it's more specific than that. These are directly connected tissues, connected events. Yeah, I think there's some connectivity to them. I'll buy it. I mean, there's a nefariousness to it for sure. They're just on two totally and completely different fronts. That's all. But if you're saying that there's some singular amorphous organism entity behind the scenes guiding those events, that seems to be what's being intimated here in this post? well yeah and increasingly Occam's Razor that's as likely as anything else it really is that stupidity you're talking about whatever you know malicious stupidity goonish stupidity I mean whatever but it's is it all a bunch of like just random stupid or is the stupid connected it's Occam's Razor says it's more likely that it's connected I okay I don't know yeah I don't know I don't know but I'm not going to hold because I can't watch anymore Pam Bondi and Jerry Namler I can't so what did you do I'll just do the opposite of you yeah yeah then I'll do a sell okay because I there's no way I can subject myself to more of that I just can't she'll subject you to it I'm sure it's more is forthcoming can I can I just say I really hope Brian Cole Jr. is guilty. And I'm dead serious. I really hope he is. Life for a lot of us will be a lot simpler if he is. And things will get a lot more complicated if he's not. I mean, I'm not dumb enough to bet against Steve Baker. I'm not. You're banking on Forrest Gump being the bank But I am really hoping that I'm going to regret the fact that I didn't when this is all said and done. Everything would be a lot easier for a lot of us and a lot of you, frankly, if Brian Cole Jr. is actually guilty. More of your buy, sell, or hold in a moment. back here with our two live and on demand on blaze tv radio and podcast let us know what you think about what we think via the SteveDace.com inbox by emailing the show Steve at SteveDace.com, D-E-A-C-E. Like us on Facebook, MeWe and Gab. You can follow me at SteveDaceShow on X, Instagram and TikTok. Please don't forget to also subscribe to our YouTube channel at DaceShow on YouTube. That's at DaceShow on YouTube. By the way, I had lunch, an interesting lunch yesterday. 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You definitely, if you're living an active lifestyle, especially as you get older, you're definitely going to want to know what a trigger point rollout is, right? They've got plenty of those at Chirp as well, right? Guys, don't just listen to me. I mean, Todd can tell you, right i mean he's raised two college athletes uh as daughters the kinds of stuff i'm talking about this is part of their everyday training regimen in order to even at the youngest of ages and in the most the greatest shape they'll be in in their entire lives to stay active to stay fit and to avoid injury i watch her use this stuff on a nightly basis my 15 year old yeah i mean if you came to watch me lift several days a week the first thing you'd see me do is bust out the trigger point roller, for example. All right. So, hey. All right. Here's what you need to do. Go to gochirp.com, C-H-I-R-P, gochirp.com slash Steve. All right. Do yourself a favor and get yourself the kind of preventative health and restorative health that you're looking for that you can do right in your own home. Gochirp.com slash Dace, or is it gochirp.com slash Steve, Aaron? It should be gochirp.com slash Steve, but I'll double check on that. That's what I put in the YouTube description. All right. Good. All right. Because it's Dace on my script, so I got confused. All right, go chirp. Try them both. One will work. Gochirp.com slash Steve. That's gochirp, C-H-I-R-P, gochirp.com slash Steve. All right, let's get back to some buys. So the whole bottom of the hour joined by Daniel Horowitz. Until then, Aaron, the floor is yours. All right, we will continue on with Trumpet Tiger. Top five must-see moments from the Israel trip. Landing at Ben-Garian. Okay. Todd's impression of John the Baptist calling those who are too comfortable to repentance near the Jordan. We should do that. Locusts optional. We just should just, you know what? You bring the Jedi robes. All right. Bring it with you. And we'll have Todd do a live reenactment of John the Baptist. All right. What do you think? I think that's a great idea. It won't be an impression. Divorce your whore wife. It won't be an impression or a reenactment. I'm just going to be me doing it because that's what the moment calls for. The spirit will take me. Todd's already sure the spirit is leading him there. Yes. so much so he's rehearsing it in fact yes steve asking for pepperoni pizza at a jerusalem 100 this is going to happen 100 there's no sausage here yeah i mean that's that's i the fact everybody all of our followers do you remember what steve i'm not remotely worried about the dining experience did everybody else just look at each other just say have you met yourself i'm honestly not i'm Honestly, not. All right. I mean, we're going to eat clean, kosher food. I'm really not that worried about it. And I don't eat pepperoni that often anyway. Maybe once in a few weeks, okay, on a pizza. But am I capable of like at day six and I'm into the routine and I forgot where we were and I'm like, you know what, man, I could really just go for some pizza and try to roll into, you know, BB's place, okay? All I'm saying is when you're proven wrong about this, Aaron will be rolling the tape. And just not even paying attention, I'm like, hey, you know what? Can I just get a small pepperoni? Sorry? Yeah. I am capable of it, for sure. Yes. Number two, all three of you at the Wailing Wall, so the Groypers may have all unrighteousness fulfilled in calling you Zionist cucks. So that is not on our itinerary. It's not. So this one won't happen. This is not on our itinerary specifically because I am just not going to—I'm not doing the meme. I'm not. So, no. I'm not doing the meme. There'll be free time. You guys want to go on your own time? Cool. You know, but I didn't make it a part of the official itinerary because I'm not doing the meme. I'm not. No. And number one, Theology Thursday from Calvary. We're ending on a serious note. Not a bad idea. We kind of have an idea of how we're going to begin and end it. that's not it, but that's not a terrible idea. I think all of those things, well, most of those things, if you're following the show, I could see why you think they'd be possible, right? Yeah. So, so is that, so I'll buy. It's a great attempt. Yeah, sure. I don't know about you guys. I, like even the fun thing I've said this, I think maybe, maybe you weren't here. I've said this before, like even fun work things that most people don't get to do. Usually I'm like, I enjoy them while we're doing them but usually before and after it's like let's get this over with glad i'm back home as much as i'm going to miss my wife and children i do not have that inclination on this trip i cannot wait for this i'm trying to savor every moment which i think i think i will because i'm going to be looking and studying everything through a viewfinder for the entire duration and we're gonna you guys are going to see um this footage later in the year it'll run in the fall. We'll take some time off after the election. And our hope right now, our tentative plan, and that's all we do here really, our tentative plans. We don't script a lot. All right. We like things to be organic. You know, I tend to like things to just happen organically and not contrived. But our tentative plan is that this will produce a three-part series of shows for you guys in the fall. And one part, one episode will focus on the sites and the studies we did of the Old Testament. One will focus on the sites and studies we did of the New Testament. And then one will focus on what the experience of traveling and going to and being in Israel as a nation is like. That's our current very loose outline. And one thing that all three of us will attest to is loose outlines are about all we do around here, right? So it's entirely possible we are over there on day three and we're like, yeah, we're going to do something completely different. That is very possible. But right now, that is the loose outline plan. Jim Bear says Roger Goodell, bro-hugging Bad Bunny after the Super Bowl halftime show, like he was a first-round draft pick, proves the NFL is just gay at this point. Yeah. Bye. This wasn't some accident. The NFL is absolutely anti-American and pro-gay at this point. I just, I don't think it's even worth your energy to try to attempt otherwise. I'll buy. I could see why someone would think that, sure. Next, we will continue on with David, who says, if in a drinking game, taking shots every time Todd says, um, and every time Steve says, right, okay, Aaron would pass out drunk before the first commercial break in the show. You say right okay occasionally. Everybody says um pretty occasionally. I think that's a little over the top. What about if you took a drink every time Todd took a breath? What do you think? How drunk do you think you get? Todd has taken another breath. I got one. What if you took a drink every time? Now, my resting heart rate is like 59. But still, if you took a drink every time I took a heartbeat, how drunk would you get, Aaron? I would be dead. You'd be dead. I mean, that's alcohol poisoning. You're John Bonaming right there at 59 shots. I guess I didn't realize me saying right was a crutch. Is it? I don't know. What's really sticking in this guy's craw? That's what I want to know. Aaron, why did you select this one? Have we not tickled his Jew fetish enough or something? Really, what are we doing here? I was unaware. Right? I'm going to say it all the time now, by the way. You should have never sent this. I'm going to find ways to say that as often as absolutely possible just to spite you. Right? I'm going to do it constantly now. Todd, would you like to say um before we move on? I will soon, but when you least expect it. Right? Darren White says, Secretary of State Marco Rubio will be performing at the Super Bowl halftime show next year. These memes are phenomenal. I love how they're so smart to embrace them, too. Like J.D. Vance has embraced his fathead version. It's so smart. No, these are, and they're never-ending. I mean, the amount of jobs that Marco Rubio has taken. What was the one? Oh, it was somebody had him dressed up in another Super Bowl halftime show, like as kind of a stage go-go dancer kind of a thing, right? I mean, those Rubio memes are priceless. You know who will not be embracing their memes after today? Pam Bondi, because she's actively losing her mind. Yeah, the crash out got worse after... after she somehow managed to give the moral high ground to... I can't even say his name. I can't even say his name again. That was the high point. I can't. That was the high point. It got worse. It got worse. All right, listen, we're stepping on Aaron's montage tomorrow. All right, but it got worse. It got worse. It got worse. Embarrassing. Like, throw in the damn towel. It was that bad. It was that bad. Absolute one of the worst meltdowns I've ever seen in a public setting from someone claiming to represent us. Absolutely dreadful. Dreadful. Bad. You know, I heard Marco Rubio went into the Oval Office and said to Trump, how many jobs must I take on? And Trump said, not nine job, man, but 90 times nine. 90 times 90? Rubio for Attorney General. Yeah. How about this? Literally anybody else for Attorney General. Thoughts? Bye. All right. Strange new respect for Matt Gaetz. Candace Owens for Attorney General. Thoughts? I'm telling you, I'm entertaining it. If the options are Pam Bondi and Candace Owens, it's probably going to be wrong. It's going to probably be wrong, but I think she'd prosecute somebody. Might be me. All right? It's going to be wrong. Okay? But I think she'd prosecute something. Point made. We're in hell. Point made. Yeah. Next. Jeff Sessions or Pam Bondi. Kind of hurtful. It is kind of hurtful. It is. James, as a result of the success of the TPUSA halftime stream, the NFL will book a politically neutral, quote-unquote, artist for the Super Bowl next season, only for that artist to have the political messengers be added as unannounced performers. Sell. I like that level of cynicism. I do, but the opposite is true. Your resolve will get tested first. Okay, can they do it again? All right? And so the opposite is going to happen. It's going to go harder left. That's what's going to happen. Sports Pro has no resolve. None. I'm not testing sports pros. That's a lost cause. I'm talking about TPUSA's resolve. They're going to test the other sides. Whether we can put a credible alternative together for two years in a row. They could care less about sports pro. And sports pro could care less and normally doesn't watch the Super Bowl halftime show anyway. What they're concerned about are advertisers. Because right now, if you ran an ad from, say, so that would be, it was about 7 our time is when the halftime started, so 8 Eastern. If you were running an ad from 8 to 8.30 p.m. during the Super Bowl, you anticipated that you probably got about 20% less people watching than what you got charged for. And the rates for the next year are always based on what happened the previous year. So they were already going to be in a fight anyway because they couldn't hit the—they've been getting a record high viewer every year of the Super Bowl for, like, numerous years. This year is the first time they did not hit that record in a while, I think since the COVID year. So they were already going to lose some negotiating leverage with advertisers as it is. Now you're going to tell advertisers, but hey, and also about 20% fewer people are going to watch your show than watched it previously. So I think, you know, dude, it's more likely Colin Kaepernick will be the halftime show than what you're suggesting. Now, if it happens twice in a row, then particularly with a presidential election year coming up, then I think it is possible, you know. Calling all Lynyrd Skynyrd cover bans. Yeah, I think it is possible then that they might put a tourniquet on a flesh wound and just pretend to put the woke away for a year or two just to satiate it. I think that's possible. But I think they're first going to test. The NFL, in its arrogance, is going to just assume this is just a one-off and it can't happen again. So they're going to make TPUSA pull it off again is what I think. Speaking of the NFL and its arrogance, that's where we're going next. Light the Dark California says, selling the Chargers gear and interest in the NFL is waning. Buy, sell, or hold. The NFL has basically already proven it can survive endless boycotts with zero consequences. Buy, sell, or hold. I'm going to sell because... What boycott? Yeah. I'm going to sell on that. I think, and we've had this conversation for years, you have to do this very strategically. and you have to understand that Roger Goodell is a front for the owners, and he does not have individual agency. He's not ruling the NFL. He is a manifestation of what the owners want. He reports to them. Wherever Clark Hunt, there's five left-wingers. Or the kinds of right-wingers that are trying to convince the Republicans to not listen to people like us very often, those kinds. And I don't know if you guys saw the other consideration they have. I don't know if you guys saw, there was a recent study done of the voter registrations of NFL players. You guys see this? Okay. And there wasn't a single team that had a plurality of Republican voters. Why? Well, because most of the players are black. How do most black people vote, guys? How do most of them vote? Democrat. Now, among wealthy black athletes, those percentages are lower than they are, say, in inner city America. So instead of getting 90% of black voters in inner city of America because of black guys who now want to not live in crime-infested neighborhoods and not pay 60% top marginal tax rates, those numbers might be, say, 75% or 70%. There's erosion there. You're going to way more likely get a Lynn Swan, who ran for Senate in Pennsylvania as a Republican, remember. Tony Dungy. In those circles, the concentration of black Democratic voters is not as solidified as it is in the general populace, but it is still a pretty solid majority. And so you're an owner. You are a business owner. Most of your employees are black. Most of them vote one way. You're concerned also about, well, am I going to get glitter bombed? What's going to happen to my stock price if I'm viewed as a racist homophobe by Jemele Hill? If Stephen A. Smith labels me that on ESPN tomorrow with Shannon Sharp, if he's even still on. I have no idea. I don't watch any of those shows. Those things all go into this. And Roger Goodell is just a crash test dummy for all of those inclinations of what gets discussed in smoke-filled rooms. He's just the head of a hydra. If you cut him off, there'll just be more. This is why you have to be way more strategic. You cannot ding. It's not possible. It would take 50 years to financially ding the NFL. Look at how hard Hollywood has alienated us our entire lives. And they're just now, they're just now beginning to feel it. And frankly, it took a scandemic shutting all the theaters down on top of a writer's strike. So first there was no demand and then there was no supply. Those two things had to happen back to back after decades of alienating us to get Hollywood to the point that it is right now. And the NFL, way more impervious than that. That's not to say they're not vulnerable, but you have to hit a thermal exhaust port. I don't care how many X-wing fighters you throw at a Death Star. They're just going to nuke your planet. What is the thermal exhaust port? The thermal exhaust port is you pick a franchise, one, in a red state where you have a disproportionate amount of people who think like us, and you punish them for this. That's your pressure point. You've got to find the pressure point. To quote the great prophet Hayden Fry, scratch where it itches. Find the red state franchise and put the gun to their head. You'll never get a collective mass of people. The NFL is a global entity. It's propped up by global corporations. You'll never get a mass of people to do it. Fantasy football in and of itself is one of the biggest entertainment industries, a subsidiary of the league. You have to hit the thermal exhaust port. What if we had a real church? Well, then none of this would have happened in the first place, and you're blaming the symptom and not the disease. But we have a reasonable expectation to have a real church. Don't disagree. By the way, that's why what I'm saying is true. We don't have one. That's my answer. So you've got to have a, you've got to, therefore, just like you don't have a real, you know, you don't have a real rebellion. You got one guy in an X-Wing fighter who can hit the thermal exhaust port. Got to hit the thermal exhaust port. But we don't have a real church because our worship time is spent instead worshiping the Death Star. That could be true. could be the other way around. I don't know. I mean, that's the chicken or the egg. It could be, and it probably depends. Until we reconcile that football is an idol, we're just not going to get anywhere else. It just, it has become that. It doesn't have to be that. It isn't that by definition, but neither is gold. It's breaking men. Next, we go to Clinton, who says Mitch McConnell will remain in the Senate for another 60 years as turtles totally live to be about 150. I will buy. He will outlive us all while still being in the Senate. Yes. Bye. Jumping the snark says silver will hit $200 an ounce this year. Well, I don't. I have no idea. See, I'm trying to think of. Because I think you're going to you're watching a pump and dump. And I think, yes, as the Birch Gold ad pointed out, we've seen a 700% increase in the last 20 years. I think it's gone up like 40% in the last year, right? I think a percentage of that is in anticipation that Trump's tariffs are going to go down at the Supreme Court. And then what will take place after that to compensate for that lost revenue will be a massive dump of these commodities to then go back into the economy to try to pay down the debt. That's what I think will end up occurring. So I'm not smart enough to know, you know, what the dump price of the pump is. I don't know what it is. That sounds like a nice round number to me. What do I know? So I know human nature and I know politics. I don't know finance at this level or investment at this level. But I think that this at least comes close to aligning with my read politically of how human nature is going to play this out. So I'll buy. Maybe it's 198, 188, 215. but you're probably right somewhere in there. All right. We'll go to Danic Bain who says, Steve's I'm not worried about the food in Israel bluff will be called by day three. This is hilarious. I am really guys. I'm really not worried. I'm really not worried. This is amazing. There's some serious copium going on. I'll take a bunch of my protein bars with me. I'm seriously not worried about this by the way silver is about $85 an ounce right now so that's projecting a double that might be a little ambitious but okay guys I'm not there are things I'm worried about can I really sleep on a plane over a 9 hour flight the jet lag book ends on both sides never experienced that before I've only done one thing of international travel and it was to Haiti and it's also in our hemisphere and part of the Eastern time zone. So it didn't really factor into any of that. There were other issues going to Haiti and back. Okay, like what got attached? I think I spent the next three days with one of the worst things of stomach flu I've ever had when I got back from Haiti. That hit me right as I got off the plane. But I'm really not worried about the food. I'm really not. This is one of the most modern countries in the world. I'm fine not having pork for a week. I don't eat a lot of pork to begin with. You know? So I mean I not worried about it Really I not I fascinated that you guys all are worried about it for me though I am fascinated by that Like everyone Like the world over. Everyone is worried. I mean, you've traveled with me a tad, Todd. How much have I been worried about food when we're traveling? I have a very limited amount of things that I eat nowadays anyway, right? You know? Right? You'll have a good time. I do, too. I am fascinated that there's this much concern. I could see if we were going over in the fall and Steve's going to be away from pumpkin spice for eight days. How's that going to work out? Now, that's something to be worried about. All right, but it's the end of February, man. You know? I picked it this time period on purpose. We're getting, this is the tail end of their winter. So it looks like temps are going to be kind of in the, well, their version of winter, which is a rainy season. It looks like temps are going to be kind of cloudy and sunny into the low to mid 60s. Those are the highs. So we get there before it's too hot. And then we get out of there before all the springtime, Passover and Easter, you know, holiday traffic starts coming in in March. I'm not really worried about that at all. And I hope it doesn't sound like I'm trying to convince myself of that. I'm really trying to convince you guys of it. Do I sound defensive? I'm not. I'm not worried about the food at all. I'm not. I'm fascinated that you guys think I have a very rigid routine on many, many things that I tell you about all the time and this is totally going to blow up that routine I'm fascinated by it, you guys have questions about this You should have heard your daughter you were in here when she was here last week and the first time she heard you tell about the trip she's like, you sure? okay all right i'm really not worried about the food there's parts of my routine i am worried about the food is not one of them just not i mean i fast like 16 hours a day anyway you know so okay next we'll go to tom gabriel mount rushmore of american pitchmen billy mays donald trump pt Barnum, James Madison. I love the last one. That's an inspired choice there. What about Vince Offer? ShamWow Shlomi? That's right, the ShamWow guy. Who's running for Congress? He's running for Congress, yeah. A very right-wing platform, too. I mean, I think it's a pretty good list. I always look at it this way. Is there somebody that definitively doesn't belong there? Because you could always come up with more people we could put there, right? So is there somebody definitively doesn't belong there? I'm selling. There's no tranny assassin on there right now. I'm going to buy. I like your list. But I understand Todd's anti-black snark there. I get it. And it's applicable. Next, we go to Joe Bopp, who says, No one is clamoring for autonomous vehicles or human-looking robots. Neither does anything for human advancement or make anything more productive. They are amazing technologies in search of a market. More likely, they are designed to replace us instead of assist us. I'll buy that, but I think the best line that you have is these are amazing technologies in search of a market. In the 80s and stuff, we were going to have robots. There was a big thing about those. We had toy robots. Robots were going to go on the assembly lines. People just didn't get into it. In the 2010s, we were going to have 3D TVs on our home. 3D, every movie was coming out in 3D. People wanted 3D and everything. Major sporting events were in 3D. You could get 3D at your home. And that was a technology in search of an audience. No, it fizzled out. Then VR was. And Meta. Guys, remember how freaked out and scared we were about Meta about two years ago? And Meta was literally going to be the Antichrist. And we're all going to live in this virtual world created by Mark Zuckerberg. And then you know what they found? Nobody wanted to live in a virtual world created by Mark Zuckerberg. And it's a complete boondoggle. So I definitely think there are technologies in search of a market that fizzle out that we often at the time get the most afraid of. And I think that this is a potential example of that. So I will buy. Yeah, I'll buy. Next, we go to James. Electric cars are going to put the American autoworker out. That was all the commercials, right? Now no one wants to buy them. Nobody owns them, and we're all moving on. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Aaron. Last one before the break. James says teenagers in TPUSA chapters are going to be doing more to elect sane school board members than grown adults who can name every fantasy stat, but not one local official. I mean, we're already seeing that. Yeah, we're already seeing that. And you can't even, like, you can't shame anybody with that information, too. They're just so proud that they're disconnected and don't care. And our man boys, they love it. They love it. This is why I'm convinced that the call of my generation, Gen X, is we have to hold the line to get to the next generation. I think that is our call, to do what we can to hold the line, to not give up the rope. Might need a church. Well, that's why I'm the guy going around the country saying we have to get the church out ahead of MAGA or we're screwed. That's part of what I was strategizing with TPUSA Faith about just last week in Phoenix, that very question. I agree. We need to smash some idols then. There's no way around it. And when we come back, Daniel Horowitz will join us. He'll take us inside politics here in a moment. Stay tuned. The Steve Day Show. miracle made sheets they're crafted with nasa inspired silver infused fabric that helps you regulate your body temperature all night long whether you're a hot sleeper cold sleeper it doesn't matter these sheets will put you in your comfort zone which is why when i'm at home these are the only sheets i've slept on for the last few years since they came on board i fell in love right away. And I do a lot of traveling. And man, the difference, even if I'm in a nice hotel, the difference between what's there and what I come home to, it is noticeable, man. I'm always fumbling around with the temperature gauge. It got too hot. It got too cold. Don't ever do that when I'm at the house. 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So, have you been following the ex-feet of Mark Mitchell, the head of Rasmus and polling lately? I have not, because frankly, whom you follow, you don't see and what you see, you don't follow. So, no. I think you should follow it. And the reason why is because I could play a game with this audience. Who said this? Daniel Horowitz or Mark Mitchell at Rasmussen polling? And I'm just telling you, pretty indistinguishable. In fact, I got to look at his posts and yours sometimes twice to see which one of you are posting it. because this is the president's favorite pollster, and he is sounding many of the same alarm bells that you are. And he is at his, I can't take it no more over the Epstein stuff, because he's like, listen, we already have a slowly rebounding economy that's going to kill us in this midterm, and now we're going to take a significant part of our base who cares a lot about accountability and prosecutions and just kind of urinate on them and gaslight them. It's just kind of fascinating for me to watch this dynamic because he is looking at trend lines and doing what you often talk about, and I've borrowed your phrase, too, that you borrowed from the great one, Wayne Gretzky, which is to skate to where the puck is going, not where it already is. He's trying to say these things in February so he doesn't have to sit here and cry in November. That's why he's doing it right now. He's taking a ton of heat for it. A bunch of people are kind of like, hey, what are you doing? You're kind of turning on us. Well, now you got Rich Barris, another very popular MAGA pollster. He is saying a lot of these exact same things, too. Your thoughts. I mean, Steve, this is the nightmare scenario. I warned about it all last year. I warned what ought to be done to avoid it. I warned the year and a half to two years prior to that, that this is what would happen if we went in that direction, that it would look. It's almost like chat GPT. You know what I mean? It's illusory. It looks very convincing and well-reasoned at the beginning. And then you're left three seconds later with nothing. I said, look, it will start off a bunch of executive orders like it did in the first term. It will feel really great, a big relief from Biden. But over time, you're going to get all of the liabilities and none of the benefits of the political power and the policies. But then because of this. Idolatrous support for one man on the right, we're now 11 years into this. We forgot how to tie our shoes. We don't even know what it is we believe where we're headed. There's no parallel universe. So it's not even like we're going to vomit this out of our system with the midterm elections, because I see this being more like 06, 08, where they come back and they have even more leverage to stymie. But yet the public will still blame Trump because he's going to still be mouthing off for another two years as president, even after Democrats take over Congress. So then they can come back, use that leverage to crush it again. And who knows how deep into red territory they'll win. And I don't know if you've heard me say this. I said this on my show today, and I think this is really important. The two defenses of Trump is I lack the votes and I lack the time. In other words, the rationale is to come to the voters and say, look, this stuff with the economy, with immigration, with all this stuff, it was a long time in the making. It took Reagan several years. Give me some time. Here's what I want to do. But the problem is I don't have enough votes. You know, there's there's the filibuster. There's the narrow majority. There's the rhinos. The problem is Trump himself nuked both of those talking points. So obviously he endorses every single rhino, including the one last night, the Salazar, who's pushing amnesty. So he clearly doesn't want better Republicans. But then number two is and this is the second time this happened. Larry Kudlow asked him yesterday, are you going to push for another budget reconciliation bill? And not only did he say he's not going to push for it, but he said, I've done everything I want to do in four years. It's all done. There's nothing left to do. We're just going to manage it. And I'm thinking, dude, like if you gave us the ability to get around the filibuster or whatever that mechanism is, immigration moratorium, repeal Obamacare, cut spending and inflation, you know, codify all these executive orders, judicial reform, which is, you know, the judiciary is getting worse by the day, one policy after another in joint. How could you say there's nothing left to do? And if you do, what is the rationale for you and your party going forward? So the president spoke at the prayer breakfast last week, came off the stage. Senator Mike Lee said as soon as he walked off the stage, he came up to him. And the president said, Mike, we have got to get this SAVE Act passed. There's just no way we can save America without the SAVE Act, okay? I don't see how possibly this gets passed without the president being willing to exert the kind of political capital against people wearing his own uniform that for the most part, he's been loathe to do, unless it's something personal, or, and what he's really good at doing is doing it with foreign governments, right? That's where he's excellent at it. And the Freedom Caucus. Well, personal. And it's personal because he knows that he doesn't want to let anybody get to his right. That's why it gets personal to him. No, exactly. All right. That's because he knows that the power in our party is being seen as the most right wing figure is the leader. And he knows he can't let anybody get to his right. Okay. Which is why I think this whole thing with Massey is stupid because if you wanted to take him out, you should have done the Epstein files and taken that issue off the table. Now you made it harder for yourself to take him out in a primary. You gave Massey an issue to get to your right. But I digress. What's that look like? What does that look like when Lisa Murkowski is out there openly saying, I'm voting against this? So guys like you and I have been clamoring for the president. You have got to pressure the rhinos to move to the right. And there's no way this particular bill that he desperately wants and the country desperately needs is going to happen unless he does. All right? So he calls up Daniel Horowitz. He says, all right, man, I'm tired of hearing you whining and complaining. and all right, I'm going to do what you want. Tell me what I should do. What would you say? What's it look like? Give them the Chip Rory treatment. I mean, it's that simple. You call them out by name. See, the problem is everything's in the abstract. Oh, we ought to be doing this. So every other tweet where he's not saying that it's the golden era and we've done everything we could possibly do, he does sometimes say, yeah, this is a problem and we need to be doing this. But you can't just do it in the abstract. You have to direct the fire towards next week. We're considering this bill this time. You galvanize your base. You call them out by name. You campaign physically in their states. Reagan did this all the time with the bull weevils, the Southern Democrats. And that's how we even though he never had the House, he only had the Senate. He was able to get his tax cuts and other priorities passed campaign in Alaska, campaign in North Carolina, campaign where these people are. call them out every day name the bill uh keep making the case but again like that that clip from larry kudlow it's almost like he's a spent force yeah i've done everything i could do i've done everything in four years and he's only 13 months into this i think that's the problem we haven't really seen that we haven't seen that level of i want this again except for where he doesn't want people to get to his right i agree with you on that with the freedom caucus but he needs to give the other uh end of the party that sort of treatment um otherwise i don't see how anything happens heck steve in three days dhs is is shutting down again i'm not seeing messaging we're gonna defund sanctuary cities we're gonna do this um that looks like it's gonna get negotiated down at some point so that's even a more imminent problem and if i could just hijack here, back to your first point with the Epstein stuff, I myself felt while it's important, I didn't think electorally it was fundamental relative to the state of the economy with voters. But now I actually do see it as a core issue and not just for the base, Steve, all voters and Democrats, young voters, pretty much everyone. So Democrats, I don't know if you've seen the clip of John Ossoff, the Georgia senator. But a bunch of them I'm starting to see are running on this, calling Trump and Republicans the Epstein elites. And they tie it together to the big tech. And you're constantly seeing these CEOs cycle in and out of the White House, the foreign deals and entanglement. Whether it's fair or not, they are painting a picture of the Epstein elites, tying it into both his domestic and foreign policies. So this is going to loom large. To me, I think there's a ratio here where the economy is the biggest quadrant of the formula, is the biggest component of the formula, obviously. But then there's a ratio for how much of a kitchen table economic boom do people have to feel for you to be able to absorb and withstand slippage and these other components of the formula, right? Okay. And right now, we're way underwater on that. Way underwater. Like on the economy stuff, we're so far underwater that Joe Biden is beating Trump in head to head Rasmussen polls yesterday. And so therefore, we can't afford any base slippage at all. Right. OK. And now if the economy gets better and you do better with normies and independents, then there's a ratio of how many people in your own base you can piss off on this issue. And you'll be there's a there's a teeter totter effect. But right now, the whole thing is just all the weight is on one side against us. And what this has done, what this Epstein stuff has done, the three people that put us over the top in the last election, in my view, looking at the data, and gave us a popular vote win was the Maha voter, all right, your classical liberal Democrat that just the party's too crazy for RFK person, all right, Hispanic men, and then the young male vote that we tied with. and that young male voters who heard Trump on Theo Vaughn and Andrew Schultz and Joe Rogan. And one of the biggest shows in that nexus is Sean Ryan. And Sean Ryan's basically turned Roe Kohana into his co-host. He's on there all the time. Why? Because Sean Ryan believed that we're going to get the truth of the entire Epstein pedophile ring, and we're not getting it. And so even though this is a guy that's pretty right-wing, Navy, former military guy, He's gotten involved in his faith the last few years, had all kinds of Christian major apologists on his show. He's now basically doing, hey, you guys lied to me every day, to 5 to 10 million people downloading his episodes. We don't need those voters. We're good. Who needs all those people voting for him? Apparently we don't, right? We've taken, and for the life of me, I cannot figure out why we have done this because the most high-value target that is even remotely implicated as working in this administration is Howard Lutnick. Howard Lutnick. We're doing all this for Howard Lutnick. Well, Steve, there's Steve Bannon. Dude, the president gives Steve Bannon a pardon and let him go to prison for him, you know? Steve Bannon is expendable to Donald Trump. Howard Lutnick apparently isn't. Howard Lutnick apparently isn't, right? We're letting them what about us on Epstein over Howard frigging Lutnick, okay? And that is the kind of thing that lost us that group. we've let them get to our right on this but all adjacent issues the big tech stuff i'm seeing all over the country the democrats are seizing on all this stuff again john ossoff's messaging i'm seeing i'm tracking democrat congressional uh campaign ads and and they've they've employed and they've always done this a two-tiered strategy so on the one hand they have the street guys with ice and you know, the trainees and Antifa doing their thing. But they benefit from that because if you don't put that down, and we've been talking about the last couple of weeks, then that reflects badly on whom? The incumbent. Okay. People see all this chaos. They might be creating it, but they see the chaos. It's not being redressed, not being put down. But then their candidates, their serious candidates are not running on abolish ICE, really. They're running on that John Ossoff message that, wait a minute, Trump said he was for the forgotten man. I'm just seeing the Epstein elites, big tech biatches that are just there for the oligarchs while the cost of living gets greater. You're sitting and building all these data centers with tax breaks for the wealthiest corporations ever. And it's like, they'll always demagogue this stuff and engage in class warfare. But Steve, if I'm listening to it and I'm thinking like, okay, I know you'll do the same thing and you're lying. You'll be in with big tech when you get in there. But what you're saying isn't untrue. And I can't really say it's not true. That's a problem. Democrats aren't stupid. They're not running on the tranny stuff. They're not really running on illegal immigration. They might try to find the sort of corruption angle to it and rope it in, but that's what they're running on, affordability and corruption. Good to see you, my friend. Thank you. Take care. Take care. All right, guys, what do you think? They had, I just saw this, Epstein victims in the room today. I saw this, too. Raise your hands if you feel ignored by the DOJ. Listen, regardless of whether or not that's, you know, I'm not here to litigate that. That's just terrible optics. Yes, it is. For the DOJ. Totally, completely unnecessary. And immoral, probably. Yeah, it's interesting, you know, as dialed into the variables, you know, Daniel just got done saying, you know, I, just up until now had not let the Epstein issue risen to the level that it now has. not because he doesn't think it's morally important or repugnant, but just weighing and measuring what people think, how to move people. But he's like, it's just now it's like people happily tying anchors around their necks and it makes it impossible to go anywhere else. And maybe that's the point. I just want us to win, man. That's it. That's my agenda. My agenda is our way of life is at stake. We're in a cold civil war. This is a worldview steel cage match. Second place is the first loser. And that means that we have to win, and I just want us to win. When is this not us? When is this not we? I mean... Maybe we just don't... They're just begging for people to rightfully say, I can't stomach this. Well, and this kind of behavior lends itself to those kinds of conversations, and a lot of people won't. I mean, 90% of our people are going to vote for our people, but we need 93% of them to do it. You know what I'm saying? Okay. We just don't have the margins to depress our own vote. of any significant number. And by a significant number, I mean a number greater than zero. That's what I mean. A number greater than zero right now is a significant number, and we just don't have it. Go hard, Romans 8, 28. you