The Ongoing?!: A Real Housewives of Rhode Island Recap
44 min
•Apr 15, 20264 days agoSummary
Kara Berry recaps episode 3 of Real Housewives of Rhode Island, covering relationship dynamics, financial control in partnerships, infidelity allegations, and workplace retaliation. The episode features multiple cast members navigating prenups, polyamory, house flipping decisions, and a dramatic confrontation at Jerry's Studio 54 birthday party.
Insights
- Financial dependency creates power imbalances in relationships; women without independent income or asset ownership face vulnerability in breakups or divorces
- Infidelity and workplace retaliation escalate when partners lack direct communication and attempt to involve third parties or employers
- Cultural narratives around marriage and divorce can trap individuals in unhealthy relationships by normalizing tolerance of infidelity
- Men making unilateral decisions about major purchases (real estate, home renovations) without partner input creates resentment and loss of agency
- Public confrontation of infidelity on reality TV creates humiliation dynamics that shift focus from the actual betrayal to social performance
Trends
Rise of polyamorous/non-monogamous relationship structures being openly discussed in mainstream reality TVFinancial prenups and asset protection becoming standard even in unmarried cohabitation arrangementsWorkplace involvement in personal disputes escalating through HR and email documentationGLP-1 medication marketing targeting lifestyle and weight loss goals in podcast advertisingTherapy and mental health services normalized through insurance-covered, accessible platformsDIY beauty and personal care products marketed as cost-saving alternatives to professional servicesReal estate flipping and home renovation as relationship stress points and decision-making conflictsCultural identity and traditional values used to justify tolerance of infidelity in relationships
Topics
Prenuptial agreements and asset protection in cohabitationFinancial dependency and economic power dynamics in relationshipsInfidelity and extramarital affairsWorkplace retaliation and HR involvement in personal disputesReal estate investment and home renovation decisionsPolyamory and non-monogamous relationship structuresParenting decisions and family planning disagreementsCultural attitudes toward divorce and marriage dissolutionTherapy and mental health supportGLP-1 medications for weight lossDoll collecting and hobby obsessionCoffee shop business operationsBirthday party planning and event themesMarital communication and conflict resolutionHumiliation and public confrontation dynamics
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People
Kara Berry
Host analyzing and recapping Real Housewives of Rhode Island episode 3 with commentary and critique
Liz
Housewife planning Studio 54 birthday party for husband Jerry; accused of affair with friend Dino
Jerry
Liz's husband celebrating 54th birthday; appears unconcerned about Dino friendship rumors
Rosie
Housewife navigating house flipping project with husband Rich; conflicted about having children
Rich
Real estate flipper making unilateral decisions about home purchases and renovations without consulting Rosie
Alicia
Housewife planning pizza restaurant business; in relationship with man who won't put her name on house
Kelsey
Housewife in polyamorous arrangement with wealthy primary partner and secondary boyfriend Billy
Billy
Kelsey's secondary boyfriend; known since junior high; attends party in tight tartan vest
Ashley
Housewife with two children; husband Jared struggles with coffee shop business insecurity
Jared
Coffee shop owner experiencing financial insecurity and self-doubt about business performance
Joellen
Housewife whose husband Brian called her workplace to file complaint; confronts Rula at party
Gary
Joellen's husband; defends her at party confrontation; angry about Brian calling her workplace
Rula
Housewife dealing with husband Brian's infidelity; defends him at party despite evidence of cheating
Brian
Rula's husband accused of infidelity; called Joellen's workplace; refuses to defend himself at party
Dino
Liz's close friend; subject of affair rumors; attends Jerry's birthday party
Sarah Gibson-Tuttle
Founder of DIY nail care brand; featured in podcast sponsor segment about DIY Manny Challenge
Liv Perez
Podcast host featured in Rothys shoe sponsor segment discussing spring/summer footwear
Quotes
"I dispense weed and the truth"
Liz•Opening taglines
"I hate having to ask him for money. It's like a power trip. I actually thought it would be great to be a stay at home wife or girlfriend in my case but it actually sucks."
Alicia•Mid-episode
"You got to be stronger than that Alicia"
Liz•Alicia/Liz conversation
"I don't have an ongoing. It's all lies. I got nothing to hide. Maybe you do but I don't."
Liz•Bedroom confrontation
"I'm not looking to hurt Rula. I'm trying to just protect her from a horrible husband."
Joellen•Party confrontation
Full Transcript
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Okay, you've got your friends in the living room. How long have the friends been? How captive? Just curious. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to another episode here at Everyone's Business but Mine. We're of course back in Rhode Island with my new best friends, the real housewives. Let's get into it because damn, I feel like I said this in episode two. You know how you expect an episode one in every premiere that there's going to be a bunch of explosive shit to pull you in for the rest of the season. And then you can kind of usually when there's like a double release, two episode release within a week or within a night, you can kind of expect the same where those two episodes are going to be explosive and then it's going to be kind of sleepy after that. We're in episode three. We're still firing on all the cylinders and I don't know when we're going to ever take our feet off the pedal. I'm exhilarated but there's so much going on. Before we get into the episode, let's talk about our girls very first taglines. Starting off, of course, Queen Liz in the Ocean State, I dispense weed and the truth. Ted's Ted's Ted's Ted's across the board. As a girl who dispenses both of them in the state of New York, I'm with you sis. I'm with you. Moving on to Alicia. Hers is why settle for just a slice when you can have the whole damn pie. Great. Great. I can't wait to see her pizza, pizzeria storyline and how that develops throughout the season. Not even kidding. Rosie's is I used to report the news but now I'm the headline. These are great. I'm excited. Ashley, I, my life is like a rom-com when I'm not crying. I'm laughing. She do be crying quite a bit. Rula's is I have a blessed life and I'm a loyal wife. That might be the most damning statement probably since the only thing I'm guilty of was being Sha Amazing and then Jen went to the penitentiary for, you know, a little bit. You are a loyal wife. To a fault. The phrase to a fault was built specifically for this marriage girl. I am so sorry. I would say worst tagline but only because your husband's a loser. It's not really your fault girl. Moving on to Kelsey. Who needs a sugar daddy when my life is this sweet? Well Kelsey, I mean you might be second to last because like you do have a sugar daddy by your own admittance so you, you need a daddy because your life is this sweet. But again, no shade babe. And moving on to our last and final girl. I'm not trying to be mean. I just mean what I say. Joe Ellen Tabiri. These are great. Like I feel like whoever gods are at Bravo and got behind Rhode Island, they were like you know what we need to come with a tight cast, a bunch of really loose fucked up story lines and some taglines and I am so so appreciative of that. So let's get into the episode. Rich and Rosie are in their driveway washing away at Rosie's pink Jeep. Ashley and Jared come over. They've got a lot going on. Okay. Rich escorts Jared to the pile of dirt next to their home and Rosie lets us know that here's a plan with the house. I was going to sell my condo. Rich says I'm going to sell one of my condos so we decided let's just buy a house together. But then Rich found a one bed one bath over a three car garage and is like you know what I'm just going to add 5,000 square feet. So Rich likes to flip houses but I really wasn't planning on that being my new lifestyle choice. Pretty much everybody this episode, most of the ladies, whether they know it or not, mostly due to real estate end up being victims of the men that they're partnered with. And I honestly don't think how many of them realize it. I mean Rosie compared to the other two or three have it a little bit better but not much. He didn't even consult into what piece of property that you guys were going to buy. Uh oh. I mean the residents of Rhode Island to let me know. If the bagel situation is so bad there that Rosie going to Starbucks to get some bagels makes sense. Baby we gotta do better. It can't be that bad. They're talking about the lunch and how awkward things were. Rosie says I feel like there are a lot of questions that I could have asked but I didn't and Ashley's like I actually think it's so crazy that Kelsey admitted to the polyamory. Ashley then says in a confessional if you walk like a polyamorous duck and you talk like a polyamorous duck and you walk like a pomeran pomeran is stuck then maybe pomeran was stuck. Her mouth completely betrays her and she's like just say whatever. So then Ashley gets told by Rosie plot twist of this entry girl. I now feel bad for Joellen because of the whole Rula thing. And we're going to have a whole run in with Ruella Ruella Ruella and Joellen at Jerry's 54th birthday party and Rosie's like let's be real. Joellen really likes to be in the mix. You know what I mean? Like are we going to say oh no this is going to be an awkward thing? No. Joellen's going to live for this. So then we head over to Joellen's house with Gary. Joellen really quickly tells Gary my ponytail looks like a dildo. Anyway I got like a three second heads up about Ruella and I just wish somebody had said something to me earlier about her showing up at the winery. Does it matter? Ruella didn't show up. She was like I'm sick. I'm in a hat and I'm sick and in my bed fully clothed and I'm sick. I just came back from the urgent care in a full full beat. Sorry I can't make it. But then she's like you know they're in there going to be coming to the party. Gary says okay I'll talk to them then. Joellen reminds us. Brian called her job to say Joellen's been accusing me of having an affair. Wish he is. Brian wrote an email to the marketing team. They forwarded it to Joellen and said he would like to file a complaint and then he reached out to a different colleague who then reached out to HR who reached out to her boss and then that was the whole thing. So Joellen tells her husband I don't want this man to fuck with my three kids or my family. It's completely below the belt. He's like yeah well maybe I'll beat him up and Joellen's like oh do it babe. I'll be so excited for you to do this. I'll fuck you for it. This might be the first time in Housewives history in which a wife was like telling her husband like oh I'll give you a little sexual favor if you do this and she was dead ass and it wasn't like deeply awkward. Like I could sense that she really was gonna zoo it. Okay good on you. So then Liz and Jerry go for a little bike ride. A little romantical bike ride and Jerry's like yes looks good in that bike. I'm gonna do a little afternoon delight real quickie real quick. Is it too early? Like they sat by the water and Jerry asks like is it Gary or Jerry? Gary? Jerry. Jerry. Jerry asks how was lunch and she's like oh you know not good. The drama was all mine. Alicia's asking about the rumors and about Dino. It's all bullshit. So then Liz says that the accusations that she and Dino were in some sort of toured affair following her everywhere from Cranston to Providence I guess and back and forth. She's shopping. She's here. She's there. Wondering what are they really thinking of me? You know? So Liz tells Jerry it just gets to be too much. You know yeah I have a good friend in my life like Alicia. For her to say that it set me off. Jerry, excuse me, Liz tells us that she and Jerry have been spending every waking moment and sleeping moment for the past 14 years together. Linked up real bad but then Jerry took up sports fishing and you know it wouldn't be uncommon for Jerry to call up Dino and be like hey look after my girl. So yeah sometimes we'd be out like three four times a week. I'm sure people spotted us at the clubs. Sometimes just the two of us. Maybe I was due with a macarena in the club. Maybe he was recording me. Maybe he put it on TikTok. Oh god but Liz tells Jerry I know it seems like a cool and sexy story but literally at the end of the day it's nothing. There's so many amazing happy other things happen up in our lives. Now Jerry keeps looking at her this whole time like mouth breathing. I don't know how many edibles he took before this seed. He's having a great time. Seems pretty chill about the whole Dino thing. So I guess she's not lying because why would Jerry co-sign this? Why would he sit here and be like yeah you're right like you guys are just friends. It's not a big deal if it wasn't. So I don't know what do we think? So Liz is planning a 54th birthday for Jerry. Studio 54 themed and I know if you guys have known me you're probably like here are you so sick of these this type of theme party. The great Gatsby the you know other themes that we've had throughout the years. I gotta say studio 54. I don't have a problem with it. The one party theme I'm okay with now. You know ask me maybe next year when we've had 13 of them throughout the Bravo sphere. Maybe I'll have a different opinion but for now I'm having a great time. So after this we head over to a coffee shop with Kelsey. She orders herself a little iced number and tells us in a confessional. It seems like a hot topic is who I'm dating especially the other man that all these girls you know are talking about. So this blonde dude walks through the door and she's like Mr. William how are you? Kelsey says in a confessional ladies and gents this is Bill. Incredible. This is incredible. I think this might be the baddest bitch on the planet. The fact that she has the main dude bankroll in her whole life in his biggest house and she don't even really have to bother with him half the time and then she gets little Connor McGregor here and they're having a great time kind of. He knows about the situation. The boyfriend knows about the situation. Neither of them seem to have a problem with it and everybody knows. Like Kelsey's very open. She says my parents know about my relationship. They wish that I would you know get with somebody who wants to like really give me everything but they know I've never lied to them. They just want me to have more for myself. Now Bill, Mr. William has been around for quite some time. He and Kelsey have known each other since back in junior high. We even see this dude's middle school yearbook photo. That's how far back we're going. Like she is like this is my man. You're gonna see his old photos. Mom loves him. Kelsey's parents love him. Mom is constantly being like how's my son-in-law? How's Billy? But then Kelsey kind of is like well my mom just wants me to have a kid. It's not really like is it about Billy or is it just want like I want to have a grandson? I don't know. So Billy and Kelsey have like this conversation about like I want kids. How many do you want Bill? He wants two. She's like as long as there's a nanny. I'll pop out as many as I as possible. I don't care. But it also sounds like Billy's got his own thing so he's not faithful. So Kelsey's like in a bit of a pit like kind of a pickle but also like again a gilded cage like I've been saying. She's got this man who's you know cashing checks and hopefully putting her name on an authorized user on a credit card. She's living with him kind of. And then she's got Billy who she like kind of likes but he's also got a girlfriend but they like don't talk about things. That's her boyfriend but not her boyfriend. I'm really confused. And then the big answer was big question was answered which was how much my name is Billy. That's how much I wanted. That's really all I need to know. She says Billy's you know he does well for himself but she would have to get a job. Not that well not sixteen thousand dollars sixteen thousand square foot home and not having to work successful. And it's not that she doesn't have a problem working. It's just like she doesn't want to. You know fair. So then we head over to Alicia's. Liz comes over and Alicia's like don't mind my house. It's a mess. It's construction. They barely make it past the foyer before Liz looks at the room to the right of her and goes whoa whoa what's happening here. What's happening here. Is there a room full of Bratz dolls. They didn't look like the OG Bratz dolls. I don't think they were Bratz but there were some American girl dolls at a different wall. There was a whole bunch of dolls in doll houses like five foot tall doll houses just lined up against the walls in this room. Alicia lets us know ever since I was a little girl I really love dolls. There's just something very beautiful about them. I think it's like an art. So this is like hold on. Did you take these dolls down for me and Alicia's like no because of the construction and Liz is like what so you put these in your full living room. Yeah I do. Look look at the dolls. You know they they I got their eyeliner on the eyeshadow. Look at it. It's all different. The three layers with the lashes. Everyone's has a different lipstick and a little bit of shimmer and I don't let my daughter play with these. I tell her if she does it very gently very gently Selena. So this is like okay well no judgment. You got your friends in the living room. Fortunately Liz does not go running for the hills. We get further into the property where the actual humans are allowed to live. But Alicia tells Liz I haven't seen you since the winery. I'm really sorry of me asking questions hurt your feelings and you know people ask questions about me all the time. It's like you could ask me why I'm not married. I feel like I'm an open book. Liz says but I already know why I'm not married because we talked about it before. Now Alicia tells us growing up she knows she had all those aunts running around. Six of them are divorced. Her mom's divorced. She just really hasn't seen any great examples of like a strong marriage. So she's got a guard up. But then Alicia tells Liz that her man made her sign a prenup. And so I went to the lawyers and they said he's not even leaving me with a penny. Wouldn't even put my name on the house. And Liz is like oh yeah fuck that. Me and Jerry were 5050. What I got he got what he got I got. So you got to be stronger than that Alicia. Then Alicia tells Liz the man won't even put her name on the house. And that's another thing because her father ended up leaving her mom. She hasn't seen him since she was 16. He sold the house out from under them. So she's like I just never want to be in that position. But I hate to tell Alicia babe you are in that position. If your name is not on the house that you live in then it doesn't really matter. Because if the prenup stipulates that your name isn't going to be on the house anyway. I mean better off that you're not married. But like if he were to break up with you now wouldn't you also be shit out of luck. Now I did do a little bit of digging just now. And I saw that Rhode Island does still recognize common law marriage as a thing. So maybe she does have protections because based on the requirements like having a ring not having another partner different aspects surprisingly living together isn't like such a big factor recognizing all of that. But also having children together helps maybe if they're if they file their taxes jointly if they're joint bank accounts. Yeah so there maybe she's better off now than she would be. Maybe she's smarter than we think. So Liz tries to tell Alicia you got to find yourself a job. Find yourself a passion. You know make a little coin on your own because Alicia tells us I hate having to ask him for money. It's like a power trip. I actually thought it would be great to be a stay at home wife or girlfriend in my case but it actually sucks. So Alicia tells Liz when I think about getting into pizza and mama with Billy like I want to decorate it so it's kind of like both of our creation. Y'all I love my mom down but like every mother she's got her quirks. One of her more famous ones is her pronunciation of tortilla. You ready for this? Tortilla. It is a thing that popped up in my childhood and despite the fact that at this point I'm not sure. 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And Rula says in a confessional, it hasn't been easy mentally to process all the damage that can come with extramarital involvement. And then she starts crying. So Rula tells the girls, you know, I'm very carefully considered everything that we've built together, especially the children. So then they start talking about the culture, the Lebanese culture, the Syrian culture where you don't really leave when somebody makes as Rula calls a bad decision. But then Rula says in a confessional, I've never contemplated a divorce. I mean, it's definitely not rampant in Lebanese and Syrian cultures. But then a producer says, but you've been divorced once before, right? And Rula's like, I'm not trying to talk about that. My family would not love that. But then Rula, she's like hard to root for her because I feel bad that she's in such a shitty relationship with this goober of a man. But blaming all of this shit on Joellen is wild. Rula tells the girls that Joellen has made it her business to be an all in a ruralist business. And then she's going to Liz's party. And she just doesn't want any more drama. So her friends like, Ryan, and you proved them you've got nothing to worry about. All right. You need to tell Brian if he fucks up again, you're not going to pardon him twice. Okay, girl. Okay. I don't want to say anything bad about people's cultures, but just given how Rula is navigating this whole thing, I think it's maybe less of a cultural thing. And more of I just don't want people to hold the mirror up to me. And so I'm going to hang around people who aren't going to be like, you need to leave that loser. So then we head over to Ashley and Jared's Ashley's calling Jared to ask him, how long is it going to take you to get to the restaurant for our date night? He's like, I'll be there in a second. And he closes the door to the coffee shop and goes right across the street to the Italian restaurant. He's like, see, I'm here. They have another conversation about how Jared is just like coffeeed in the mind. The coffee is taken over. He is it's embedded in his brain, and he can't stop talking about it. He's talking about a machine that might be broken might not. God, I would hate for it to be broken. It costs $2,500. That would suck to have to replace it. Jared then says that he feels like his insecurities are stemming from the fact that he comes home from work knowing that he made miniscule amounts of money. And it's like, what am I doing for all this time I'm spending? Ashley says, you know, it's kind of a burden for me to like have two kids at home, just me. But I kind of hate thinking that because most moms have to stay at home all alone. And Jared goes, you're not a stay at home mom. I'm like, Oh, what does that mean? Because if you're suggesting that she's working and actively parenting your children, I don't know the way he said it sounded like shade, but I really didn't know how to take that. But it's sort of a similar conversation that they had a couple days ago or last episode where she's feeling like he's not feeling good enough. It's making me feel some type of way. And he's telling her it's not about you. It's about the job. And like, I just don't feel enough in myself. There's really nothing you can do about that. And she's like, well, all I worry about is what's going on with you. So then we head over to Rosie and Rich, they're having their cells a little date night. And talking about one of my biggest triggers being on different sides of the aisle when it comes to having a baby. So first of all, Rosie says she thought that rich might never marry her. And that he might just be like a fuck boy, he might just string her along. And I'm thinking, why would you think that? For what? His wild nights as a Frank Sedatra? Let me not say impersonator, singer? Who's going to scoop him up? They're either going to be oddly young or deeply old. So I think you, I mean, no shade, you're a very pretty woman, but I think definitely you're the best he could ever get. So don't leave side of that, please. And don't let him lose sight either. But then Rosie says, I don't necessarily want to have kids. And Rich is like, well, I don't think it's something we should rule out. Rosie tells him that I have family trauma that goes back. And I just never felt the need to want to be a mom. And Rich is like, well, do you think your mom wanted to be a mom? And she's like, no, I don't. Got him. So it sounds like Rich, Rosie and Joellen kind of have similar traumas with their moms, having mothers that growing up expected them to be absolutely perfect and that they weren't, but they weren't bad, but they just weren't perfect within their mom's eyes. And so their relationship was completely fucked up because of that. And then Rosie tells us in a confessional that she really started clicking that her mom might not be the healthiest for her when around their wedding, which was like a year before. Her mom was really pushing for a Catholic wedding, despite the fact that Rich is not Catholic. And she had a total shit fit about it and was like, I'm going to disown you. So they went ahead just to please her had this Catholic wedding. And then she's like, why am I doing this? What's going on? This is not normal. So Rosie tells Rich, I'm really don't think I'm going to change my mind about kids. He says, well, you know, no, like maybe in a year or so you will change your mind. She's like, yeah, I mean, maybe five, 10 years. And he's like, well, we don't really have that long because you're going to be 30. And how old are you going to be, sir? I hate this topic of conversation. Figure it out. Get on the same page. Finally, we get to Liz's for the studio 54 birthday party. Apparently, I looked at the cocktail menu at the bar. His signature cocktail is a spicy coconut margarita. That sounds really gross. I'm not really a coconut girl. Like I don't hate coconut, but I don't really like I'm not ordering a pina colada. I really don't want it in my drinks. Like I use it very sparingly. Spicy coconut sounds wild to me. Or really good. I really can't put my finger on it. But then a coconut margarita sounds crazy to me. Never mind. That sounds nasty. Anyway, Rosie and Alicia get their glam done together. And Alicia's like, you know, I always thought I would be a drug deal. His wife, you know, saw Scott face and Rosie's like, no, if it wasn't on the Disney channel, I probably didn't see it. So when Rosie shows up to the actual party, we find out that what the hell we're looking at this feather top and these honestly, she really did look like she came from a Disney Channel original movie. Glitter hot pants were not the look she was going for. She was really going for this white rhinestone number looks super cute. We saw her trying it on. But then she says she had period bloating. And so she couldn't even fit into it. So then Dino shows up to the party. Kelsey sees him and says, I was expecting him to be here. But seeing Dino, you're kind of instantly reminded of what people are saying. And so I think the reason why Liz wants Dino here is to show us girls, hey, everything's fine. But I pretend like he doesn't even exist. So all I know is I'm not even looking at him. I guess we're gonna have to put a pin in that for later. Kelsey, what happened girl? Now Kelsey's other man, Billy shows up. This man looks like Connor McGregor at a gender reveal party. He's got his titties out. He's wearing a vest, a very tight vest, three buttons, two top just loose, showing his chesticles and very tight pants to go with it, dress pants. And it's a pink and blue baby blue, baby pink tartan. It's really quite the look. Kelsey does let us know. Bill was gonna be here anyway. Technically, he is not my plus one. He was invited by Jerry. He was gonna be here regardless. So this is not a hard launch. Ruella and Brian show up. Brian, you are such a soft loser. Like a soft, like Play-Doh. He's like a Play-Doh. If Play-Doh built a man, I don't know how else to say it. They show up. Ruella's claiming if anybody comes for me, the Lebanese will jump out. It doesn't. Nothing jumps out from you two. Alicia says in a confessional, she ate with this. I think Ruella showing up is very brave of her. I love her. I think she's classy. I think she's elegant. But look, Brian, he is coming in wearing two different costumes tonight. One Studio 54 and the other is a faithful husband. Damn, Alicia, you are those dolls came up with a type five for Brian before you left it. I love it. Then Alicia goes right up to Ruella and says, Joe Ellen said, you're trying to get a fired from your job. Ruella's like, that's not true. Now, I'm not sure if Ruella even knows any part of this element to the story. Delores and Brian are talking. It's like Delores, Brian, and Ruella. They're all just making, you know, just idle chatter about the fact that I guess Brian's also from New Jersey. Delores is sort of pretending not to be for the sake of the show, but she's like, you know, I am for Patterson. But then Joe Ellen and Jerry woke up and they're like, hey, can we interrupt you real quick? So Delores is like, well, I guess I'll go get a Diet Coke. But then she runs to tell everybody they're about to have their conversations. Let's all watch. So Joe Ellen, Jerry, is it Gary? I think it's Gary now. Gary, Gary is Joe Ellen's husband. Yes, Jerry is Liz's husband. Okay, so I have got this right. Okay, so Gary and Joe Ellen go to a table with Ruella and Brian, and they're like, what's going on? Why are you calling Joe Ellen's work? Ruella asks Brian, do you want to tell them what happened? And Brian's like, go ahead, you do it. You do it. Bro, Joe Ellen says to Ruella, I don't know if you were involved in this part, but Brian, I know you were because there was an email involved. You're trying to get me fired. Brian says, well, certain things about me, which I don't really want to say right now, we're being perpetuated by you. And I was just telling a friend and he's like, oh, I'll go talk to her boss right now. Now, here's what I'm going to let you guys know what's not being said on this show. The bride's girlfriend, because let's just say it, is also in the same medical field as Joe Ellen. She's also like a medical esthetician. Now, it had just came out that while Ruella was filming Ultimate Girls Trip back in February, guess who was in her home? The girlfriend posting pictures from the backyard. You can see the comparison of the architecture of the home. So I don't know what that I mean, I feel so bad for Ruella because like girl, but also girl, like, what do you want us to do? You are actively being blind to the situation. And I feel almost more bad for Joe Ellen for being like, I don't really want to involve Ruella in this. You know, like, I'm at it, her husband, he is the one doing all of this. But like, is this a crazy thing to say, Brian, if you're going to like out here, be out here being a slut, can you stand on it? Can you have like some base in your chest? I don't know what would be the right thing to do because Brian's going to keep cheating. That's clear. You know, so like, ain't no right in this situation because he's just going to keep doing whatever the fuck he wants to do. But I just can't imagine who was this room like, that's embarrassing. I can't think of who in reality TV I'm thinking of. But it was a situation in which the dude was attempting to cheat. But like, I don't know if he got turned down or he couldn't keep it up. And I was like, oh, it's almost more embarrassing that like you couldn't even finish it. Or I think nobody wanted him. Like, you tried to cheat on me and nobody even wanted you. That's almost worse than you actively like having a woman who does want you. Because at least somebody wanted you. You're trying and you're failing. That's almost more embarrassing. But was Brian like, if you're going to do this, could you have thought, hey, hey, Brian, I'm going to be on a TV show, we are going to be on a television show. You know that this is going to come up. Maybe we come up with something to say, anything at all. Maybe we tell our wife, hey, going on the show is not going to be a great idea because I want to keep cheating on you. So Joe Ellen asks Ryan, did you not send an email and he goes, no, my friend sent one. Insurance isn't one size fits all. 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state and insurance plan so then Gary is like well did you call Joe Ellen's company or did your friend call Joe Ellen's company and Brian says I brought it up so I called him and I guess the guy called her job Joe Ellen tells rule that Brian called my colleague to talk shit about me Brian says well my intent wasn't to get you fired and Gary is like what was the intent well she was saying certain things and I said can you have her stop saying those certain things Gary tells Brian I would have expected you to call me and I would have shut it down I would have talked to my wife so when I hear it go straight to the top right to her job it's got me all pissed off now you call my wife's work that's a huge fucking problem for me so then we pan over to all the girls watching this go down Ashley is asking Rosie what's going on and Rosie's like it's not good Gary's in a glitter jacket and he's yelling this is crazy I should be a relationship commentator and then they make Rosie go back to her newscaster days in a confessional hi I'm Rosie I'm at the scene and we're here in Liz's living room details are unclear at this time but it ceases though Brian Bontorelli may have tried to get Joe Ellen fired Brian keeps getting more and more awkward squirming around in his seat as Joe Ellen's like we're not calling jobs and it's not funny Brian why are you laughing now he's not like laughing he's just got a you know when a man has a creepy little smile you know that's what it is he's so weird Rula staring daggers at Brian waiting for him to say anything at all but all he's like he could say is like well can we just stop throwing things out please Joe Ellen says everybody knows that you're cheating everybody's talking about it you know if you're having a fear that's really not my problem Rula says he had an indiscretion it's water under the bridge and Joe Ellen says okay well then don't take it out on me Rula says Rula says I'm not but I am taking it out on you the fact that you're exasperating she meant exacerbating you're exasperating and spreading everything around you were in happy to share those pictures Gary says you know what I don't give a fuck about any of that okay what I care about is my wife putting food on the table for my children Rula says in a confessional am I naive I'm not turning a blind eye he said it was done and I believe him then Joe Ellen says maybe it's not done and if you don't want to admit it fine Rula says he's not having an affair and Joe Ellen's like really he is I promise on my kids he is so Rula turns to her husband it goes tell him how it is nothing the man says nothing so Rula has to be like Brian speak your peace and Brian goes I mean we all have things we do I'm not talking about anything can you imagine your husband having cheating allegations you're looking at him like can you say that you're not cheating it on me and he's like listen we all have things that we do bro Joe Ellen doesn't a confessional I'm not looking to hurt Rula I'm trying to just protect her from a horrible husband everyone else in the group knows about this she deserves to know this like I would want to know wouldn't you then it just gets so much worse because Rula is like Brian why aren't you saying anything to her and he's like what do you want me to say you guys are saying it all you know no I don't know Brian this is so a humiliation ritual so Liz comes up and is like he has to thank guys it's Jerry's birthday we're gonna forget about this it's stupid so they break off Rula and Brian go in one direction Joellen and Gary go in another one Joellen says in a confessional listen my problem's not with Rula it's with Brian I wish I could just shake her but I can't because then her hair toppers falling off so then Brian and Rula walk off and Brian makes his whack ass joke saying well they're probably gonna say I was part of some diddy freak off now I don't know now I don't know so they leave because what the fuck else are they gonna do Rula says in the car I know you like to be calm and quiet about things but I just wish you would have said something because Joellen was trying to put you down and all Brian can do is shrug and say I wasn't gonna fight with a female Rula says in a confessional I'm upset that Brian didn't say much Gary was standing by his wife's side I just wish Brian would have been more stern and defensive so she asked Brian why aren't you shutting it down and he goes well I thought you were doing it quite well yourself I would have opened that car door click on the seatbelt click and kick his ass out because what the hell are you talking about I have to fight your battles because you found home in another woman's vagina and now I gotta stick up for you and you're acting like oh there was nothing I could say if the rule is I'm not speaking to a woman why didn't you say anything to Gary who was right there mute challenge look around everybody on mute I what a loser what an absolute loser he's practically making Rula a cuckold like you're not saying anything and I know ain't no culture on the planet Lebanese African-American American Chinese I don't care are gonna look at some woman in your home taking photos like she owns the place and not blow your fucking gasket but I have a feeling that in the traditional Lebanese culture that's about the most disrespectful thing you can do to a woman do with the old school way if you want to be old school so bad get a condo get an apartment get a little townhouse in New Jersey maybe canada can it can add a kid's probably a lot quicker but you know what I mean like if you're gonna be old school be old school that's all I'm saying but at the end of the episode Liz Liz has some coconut spicy coconut margaritas running through her probably some gummies she's on a different planet so she started slurring about how I want to go down to the seawall with Dino and Jerry Dino still one of my best friends now Liz says in a confessional I want to have time with Jerry and Dino down at the seawall because I feel like once the people actually see us together they'll understand this whole thing who Kelsey then says to Liz at the party I don't think like you should do that because of the um ongoing shit and Liz is like the ongoing what rumors the ongoing rumors by fuck off Kelsey fuck off so she gets up she goes downstairs air goes upstairs to her room and she says I wanted to be at the seawall with my husband and my best friend and you went oh I don't think you should be with Dino because of the ongoing I don't have an ongoing it's all lies I got nothing to hide maybe you do but I don't so Kelsey and Liz are in the bathroom of her bedroom she put a sign on the door that said do not enter and it had a picture of her cat Ganji with a wig on it and they are fighting Kelsey's trying to be like I'm sorry she's like no what are you talking about the ongoing what's the ongoing Kelsey what's the ongoing I don't have one I don't have an ongoing Kelsey screaming back at her why are you mad at me Liz goes because you got more going on than I do now Liz says in a confessional the way Kelsey just stood up all tall and talking to me about this ongoing it rubs me the wrong fucking way you're trying to distance yourself from your own story about Dino by pointing the finger at me so the producer says how does Kelsey know Dino and Liz goes that's a great question well you'd actually have to ask Kelsey that Kelsey's telling Liz this is not what I wanted and Liz is like yeah never it is okay I just want to go to bed I don't give a fuck anymore and then we do see that cat and a wig again I love these girls oh thank god for them thank god for them imagine not having them and we'd have to watch like Jersey instead please I mean I know we're gonna have to eventually but like let's have fun now and enjoy enjoy it while it lasts thank you guys so much for listening thank me for speaking love you bye you stopped waiting for permission 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