Are Universities Going Broke? | May 18, 2026

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I'll never forget that one because of that cold class left at him. Shout out to Ryan. I hope he's doing well. On May 19th, 1536, Ann Boleyn, the second wife of Henry VIII of England, was beheaded for adultery. I've been to the spot where that was. In 1963, Martin Luther King's letter from Birmingham Jail was published. Oh, that was banger. Have you read that? I'm sure you've read that. Yeah, I don't know if in totality, but yeah, in school. We got you in 1999, Star Wars episode one, the Phantom Menace was released. Okay. Ho Chi Minh was born on this day in 1890. Ho Chi Minh. Are you you're not familiar? I am. But the audience. Yeah, he was the Vietnamese guy. He was like their leader. Ah, the Vietnamese guy. Uh, Andre, the giant was born on this day in 1946. Archie Manning in 1949. Kevin Garnett in 1976. But yeah, Ann Boleyn, the wife, she was like 15, I think, or something, maybe a little older, but they have the spot in the Tower of London where they killed her and they tell you all about it. Very cool tour if you're ever in London, the Tower of London. That's awesome. So they after because she committed adultery, she was accused of that. I don't think she did it. And then when they were when they were about to kill her, she said something to the effect of I didn't do this. But if it helps the king to to kill me, if that is his will, then I will submit to it. Damn, she had a he had a writer. Yeah, let me find the quote. Before her execution at the Tower of London on May 19th, 1536, Ann Boleyn delivered a poised diplomatic scaffold speech to the gathered crowd. She praised King Henry VIII as a merciful prince deliberately avoiding angering the king to protect her daughter, Elizabeth. Wait, he she so she she bit the bullet to protect her daughter from what? I guess if if she raised a stink, maybe she thought they would kill her daughter too. Oh, that's a heartbreaking way to go out. Her last words were recorded by Edward Hall, a chronicler of the time. She said, quote, good Christian people, I have not come here to preach a sermon. I have come here to die for according to the law and by the law, I am judged to die. And therefore I will speak nothing against it. I come hither to accuse no man. I pray God saved the king and sent him long to reign over you. For a gentler nor a more merciful prince was there ever. Kneeling at the block, her final prayer was to Jesus Christ, I commend my soul. Lord Jesus received my soul. I don't know if I'd if that's what I'd say about the guy that was killing me. That's a writer, dog. That is a writer. She probably I mean, surely she didn't believe that she was trying to protect her daughter. Yeah, the crazier part was he was definitely cheating. You know, he was getting all the. Oh, he had like 10 wives or something. Oh, I was just legal back then. That's good. Yeah, I think that's that's what the king did. I think that's what it was. It's like, all right, I can give bitches. You can't handle bitches. That's just how this goes. Oh, by the way, she was 29 when she was killed. Not she may have been married at like 15. I don't know. But she was young. Yeah, if you if you aside from Jesus, if you go back to any historical moment, what would you go back to? Moment. So just like one one day. You look like you like I would watch that. I'm going to go back and watch that. I want to see what happened. Yeah, I mean that that period is interesting. Obviously, they're like maybe World War Two, maybe Civil War. Go watch like Gettysburg or something. Excuse me. Excuse me. I want to launch here on a hill. Just watching them fucking. I think people used to do that. Like the little cosplay. Jones went. No, no, no, no, no. The actual war. Like there would be battles in people's backyard and they'd go out there and sit and watch it. I know people used to like have like cameras and shit out there, didn't they? Or my imagine the thing. I don't know. Maybe by the time they came around, I'm not sure. But I'm I'm pretty sure people would go like there would be a battle in your farm and people would just go watch it. Then be me though. Let me let me make sure that's accurate. Yes, civilians frequently watched early Civil War battles. The most famous example is the first battle of Bull Run in 1861, where Washington elites, politicians and reporters wrote out to Virginia, expecting a quick entertaining union victory. They brought opera glasses and picnic baskets, earning it the nickname the picnic battle. I guess if you didn't have TV or radio or video games and you were like, hey, there's a battle happening down the street. I might go watch. Yeah. And you had like severe psychosis, the fuck. Yeah, I mean, maybe. But like what else? It's a Tuesday. Let's go watch it. The slaughter, you know? Yeah, I'm fucking up down. I mean, they didn't even have baseball back then. Like what were they doing? They used to go like ladies and shit, right? Yeah. Like plays, plays were big. Shut up, Lincoln. Music was a thing. Yeah. Lincoln. Let's see. I mean, I don't know what did people do for fun? I mean, it was probably a little funner, honestly. I read the study a while back that people are more like if you were to order from a menu, if you go to the menu or like a restaurant, you go to a menu and there's like three things. Big Bowl, Little Bowl, Small Bowl, Medium Bowl, Small Bowl, right? That genuinely is more pleasing to people. Like then you go to like a cheesecake factory where there's a thousand things to choose from. You're more happy with just the little amount of choices. So I think back then they may have been a little bit more, you know, relatively anyway, just by choices. This is the influx of shit nowadays. I can see how that can be. Shit nowadays, I can see how that can. Debilitate people. It's kind of why I've stepped back from everything at a take a mental health reset. I haven't I haven't been in the culture for a minute, man. I've kind of just been out of it. I am also going to your restaurant example. I am more inclined to think a place does something well if they only have five things as opposed to you go to a diner and they're like, Oh, yeah, we you can get the lobster or pancakes. And it's like, OK, I don't trust that your pancakes are very good. If the guy making them is also making the lobster. But like raising canes, they sell chicken fingers. That's it. They're a five billion dollar company. I'm in agreement. It'd be one thing. The mom and pops to ramen shops, ramen shops that are like that. Those are the best ramen shops for all my ramen kind of stores out there. The best ramen shops are the joints that you just walk in. They're like, yo, we got spicy miso or we got the katsu. This is a ramen shop. So we do is wrong. That them be the ones that be the ones. Yeah. How's everybody? It was a weekend, man. Mine was pretty low key. Nothing significantly. Was in I didn't get impacted them. Oh, I like. But. This was a big weekend for me, actually. The what is it? Or the PJ, the PJ. Did you I'm sure you didn't watch it. Did you watch it? I considered watching some on Sunday. And then I just kind of looked at the leaderboard and none of the names were interesting to me, so I just didn't watch it. I saw Aaron rise, but that was sick. Yeah, that was dope. I didn't watch any live. Yeah, it was it was dope. I like seeing new blood get some get some spin in the major scene in the major circuit. I'm not a fan of Rory as like a human. Excuse me. Not like anything personal, but it's like some of it. Kind of like a little that sounded mildly personal. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, like, I don't know him. You understand, but I just hate his character. But the way the way he be like so when all them cats went to live, right? He was one of the ones like, oh, he just like chirping on him and harping on him. Like, and to me, that's weak. That's like, how you going to say what another man does to feed his family? Right? I've always been like that, like regardless. And he just he just always kind of like kind of like a little cry baby, though. But I love I'm a huge fan of his games. Like I don't really give a fuck what he does off the off the course. Honestly, I'm always kind of room for him on the on the course. And so he made a little push. That was that was fun to watch. Really, really, really dope major. I like I like seeing like John Roms is my favorite golfer out right now. He made a little push too. But I had a good one. So it was fun to watch that. I like I like them battles, man. Still blue coffees, new can lattes are here crafted with 100% Colombian coffee. 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How long does it take you to play 18 holes? It depends. I typically don't play weekend golf because it'd just be too packed. Even on some of the not my course, my course is still kind of it'll be a little thick out there on the weekend, but for the most part. During the week, I mean, there's rarely anybody on the course. But sometimes we'll go every now and then and a foursome anywhere from four to four and a half hours. Oh, still that long? Yeah. Yeah. So. But I was playing golf Saturday with a friend who you know. And we got to the 14th tee. And we had been playing for four hours. And he was like, I got to get back to like my dog. And I was like, bro, I'll leave right now. I was like, I will not stop you. We will turn this card around right this second. And so we did. We turned around left because we were going to be there for five and a half hours. I think golf should be like 15 holes. Like 18 is too many, but like nine is not enough. Madeline, what did I tell you before they came in here? I say it every time. I don't play 18 often, but when I do, I'm like exhausted. I really big T told me. Oh, sorry. I want to make I. Arian, tell me if you if you're interested in putting some capital towards this. I think this is a I think this is a business waiting to boom. Big T told me this 20 minutes ago. I want to make a 13 hole golf course. Yes. And I want to put a nice like restaurant and bar in it, like a like a top golf style type deal, but then it's a real golf course out there. It's 13 holes, the halfway houses as it's six. You because when you play nine, you're like, I could go a few more. But then when you play 18 and you've been on the course for four hours and 20 minutes and you're on the 14th hole, you're like, when can I get out of here? So I think 13 you could talk me into 14 is the sweet spot. And I think we just build a 13 hole golf course. I think. I don't I don't have this opinion because I'm a lifer. So this game got me for life and I can't be on the golf course enough. I've but again, you're good, though, like an average. You're good, though. So you're getting done quicker most of the time than like an average person. Like when if I'm playing bad, which I normally am, I'm like so bothered. I'm like, I just want to be done. So this is what you're like. I'm going to address your point. But this is what I think. I think recreational golfers, right? Because I was there. There was a point where it's like you line up and you don't know where your tee shots are going to go. No clue. If I hit a good cool, but for the most part, right? I play the brand of golfers like I know my shot shape, right? I know I'm going to fade off the tee. Sometimes I hit a pull five. My hips too fast. Whatever the case may be. Like. But that's fun. I'm actually playing the course. That's when golf gets really, really fun. But for recreational golfers, I would advise you to don't. Like. Pick up the majority of time. Oh, well, yeah, I do that. Yeah. So like if or if like if somebody in the group play a shambles, like if somebody in the group, yeah, somebody in a group hits a good drive, everybody drop from there and just play there, play from there. Like play, play games, like make it fun. Because like if you say if you're out there counting score, like there, because there are times where I would be even me, like I'm a, you know, I'm OK. If I if I if my score is getting to the high 80s, low 90s, I just won't. I stop scoring and just play the course and just forget, forget, like, don't don't worry about the score. Like there's just there's still times where I play like shit. But I would I would do that. But to your point, I think you go. I think that would be sexy to the average golfer. I do, actually. But for people who play this shit, it won't. You're going to have you have people with the shrink the game. You heard. I think those are all the people who are who are on the course for six hours. I think there's more people that exist like that than like people who love golf so much. Yeah, I see both sides. Yeah, I see both sides. I I I understand just wanting to go out there and vibe, you know, saying, but like if I go if I go dolo and it's just me or just me and me and a buddy, I'll finish in like hour and a half, two hours easy. 18 holes. Yeah. Yeah. It was just like me or me and maybe one other person. But like if it gets four, I used to pay for money games. We always betting. That takes a little longer because we play by real rules. Like you got to drop two clubs. You know, if you if you if you hit it at a hazard, two clubs back up, put a tee down, drop it, like we play real for real. But not everybody can can or should do that. So I mean, I feel you. I feel you, man. I don't know if I pay. How much was how much was the the the fees? The seventy seven dollars. See, now you're pushing it to. I mean, that's that's a pretty that's a muni. It was it was Cog Hill. So it was like a good public course. Yeah, I don't know. I think I finished around just on a strength. Like if it was like, you know, $30 course, whatever you get, 70, 80, 90, I'm gonna play this one. Fuck. Yeah. And I'm I'm generally like that. But once it's hot, you're out there. You're just standing at the T box waiting for people the whole time. And I wouldn't have proposed it. But when he was like, man, I kind of need to get home. I was all I'll go right now. What what time you tee off? 1130. Oh, see, and we left it three forty five. Another pro tip. Summertime, you got snagged in morning tea times. I'm I'm all about I'll go at six thirty. Yeah, just just for the vibes as far as like temperature. So it's not hot. You finish around like 1112. Perfect. You still got the whole day ahead of you. You can sit in the clubhouse, you have drinks, food or just going about your day. And in summertime, you got to grab or you do the the the sundown jumps where it's like you tee off at like five or four thirty or something like that. Where but see, then it's still hot and it's like I don't like those. I feel I have a golf question. Shoot. If you so like Arians, Private Club versus like Cog Hill, can Arian, can you just play? I know you have to play like a four some at a public course all the time, like you get matched up with random people who don't have four. Can you go out there by yourself and no one else goes with you on your private course? Yeah. So like if it was just you, like no one's going to join you. Mm hmm. Nobody will. I mean, somebody could they get asked because like there's only 300 members. All right. So it's not a lot of people. I mean, and like everybody's in and out. So like majority of the time, like if you go like if I go out today's Monday, so if I go there, if I go there and I don't like, we don't even really book tea times. You do, but like they're more for the weekends when there's more people. There's more people. But like if I book an 1130 on a Monday, odds are there's going to be like seven people there and usually they're just hitting the range or something like that. And like sometimes you start to develop like friendships and stuff with the other members and, you know, I'll hit balls and like, Hey, man, I'm about to go shoot nine. You want to run? And they're like, yeah, I'll pull up. Right. But if not, not be out there by myself. I think I'd like that better. It is a more enjoyable experience and that's what you pay for. It is it's an egregious amount of money for a game. But I mean, you know, can't die with it. You know what I'm talking about? True. Thank you for answering that. Erin, I just booked yesterday in a few weeks. I'm playing Royal Hawaiian Golf Course and Turtle Bay. You should look those. I know Turtle Bay. Yeah, I played at Turtle Bay. Oh, really? Mm hmm. I think I got who was it? Did I get married in Turtle Bay? You. Yeah, I got married in Hawaii. You don't remember? And you don't remember where you got married. Well, clearly the marriage didn't last. But I think it would be something you'd remember. No, I'm not. I don't care about shit like that. I just. You're what? I'm. What? At the time you did, though, I assume. No. Or no, it was like not. I was going to say, don't make him answer that. No, I mean, I'm very upfront honest. I was way too young to get married. I was not in the mental state to get married. I was that's stupid move on my part. But I just I just wasn't like I'm and now looking back, I'm not the type to get married. Like I would love it in theory, but I just don't know if that's. In the cars for me. But anyway, I'm not like a stickler on details. Like y'all know this better than anybody, honestly. I don't plan a lot. Like I kind of just fly by the seat of my cuff. And so if if I'm with somebody, usually if I if I got a girl, something like I'd be like, yo, book all the shit, handle all the handle all of that stuff. You tell me what time I got to be at the airport. Like I don't like getting into the details of where we're going. What's what's there? How much is the plates costs and all that shit? I don't like that shit. That's not for me. I get like anxiety. It's not it's not it's not something I enjoy. Do you remember the general like air? You don't know where you got married. This is a bit. I think I think it why would it be a bit? I think it was Turtle Bay. If I'm not mistaken, I think the like the resort there. I think so. It was I got married in 2012. I was 15 years ago. That's not that long ago in the great. Yeah, I mean, I bet if I asked you about a football game in 2012, you'd remember it. You remember you was kind of tripping because I don't know none of the stadium's names. What like in the dozen? Yeah, like different. This is again, I do feel like it's your wedding. I understand it didn't, you know, work out. Yeah, but it seems like an event you would remember. I remember the event. Yeah, I could I could tell you everything that happened. Like he danced with his mom to. Yeah, yeah, I remember. I remember the like I'm like details are have never been important to me like ever. Like shit like that is I can attest to that. Yeah, like a white suit, like a bright white suit. Yeah, I think I have a picture of me dancing. You have a wedding picture. Well, it's because I'm dancing with my mom. It's a picture of me. It's not like with you and your ex wife. No, see, that's me and my mom. Oh, yeah, very nice. See shit like that matters to me. But like the place that it's at. Why would that? I don't it's just not something I pay attention to like that because I didn't I didn't book it. It wasn't like the marriage didn't last. And so it's not it doesn't like hold a special place in my heart. You know what I'm saying? Like, just feels like something you'd remember. It was for sure Hawaii. It was for sure Hawaii. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I mean, if he had that wrong. No, no, no, because because I was that was the one thing I did have a hand in. I was like, I want to make it where if you want to come, you got a plan and go out your way to be there. I don't I don't want you to just pop in and I got to buy you a plate. Like if you want to come like you got a plan. And so it was nice little like 4050 people wedding that many people. Did you stay there at that resort? Yes. I'll be there in a little while. Where they film you must have been right on the heels of it's where they film for getting Sarah Marshall. I came here to murder you. It's really hot back then. The funny part of the turtle Bay. Believe it's a it's a Ritz Carlton now. I think. Oh, the Google Maps only shows me a picture of the street. For the website. Good. That's a good question. I don't know. I don't remember man. You should find that out. It's not going to change my day one way or the other. I'll send you some pictures and see if it rings any bells. Yeah, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think if there's anything. I remember there was a drink I liked at the pool. Lava flow. Lava flow. I'll write it down. Lava flow was very sweet, but it was like, yo, this is hitting had some I think rum in it. See, I remember details like that, but I don't know. I just I've never been a stickler for those kind of details. I guess it's selective memory. You remember what you want to remember. Yeah, well, I'll be there in a month. I'll send you some pics. See if golf course. Remember being there. I didn't play then I play. I had later went back to that resort, which is why I rung a bell. Other than this, where I got married and I played there. It was nice. You should have a great time. Was that pro bowl or just hanging out? That's what that's that's what that's in my mind when I'm struggling with. I remember turtle, but I don't know if I was there for the pro bowl or the wedding. I don't remember. Okay. Yeah. I feel like where was Aloha Stadium? Was it in it was in Honolulu, right? Which is like the other side of the island. So it probably wouldn't have been for a pro bowl. There you go. The deductive reasoning. I think it's only like an hour, so it still might have been, but I think the thing is I don't ever book men on my shit. That's what it is. Like one of my favorite hotels of all time is the Brooklyn one, the one hotel in Brooklyn. I used to book it when I used to go to New York with the New York offices when macro was there. And I remember that hotel because I was the one that beat the bucket. Like I think that's it. I think I just don't book my shit. Like just tell me to show up and I'll be there and whatever happens happens. There's no significance. It doesn't resonate with me. Anyway, hope is the one hotel brand. Is that like the only people I ever hear talk about it or people I know that are wealthy. So is that a very preferred brand? I can't speak for other ones. I've only been to that one. And what I liked about is every New York hotel is fucking tiny. Everything is so tiny in New York. You go to that one and there's finally room and space in your room. That's what stood out to it for me. And it was very like modern, like little hipster vibe, but very, very like spacious and very clean. I loved it. And then you get the whole Manhattan. You get the whole view of Manhattan right there because you're right across the Brooklyn Bridge. This shit is fire. Anytime I go to New York, I go to that one now. Free promo. Shout out to one hotel. Oh man. I am tired of shit. I was working out my son at 5 a.m. We started his training. I'm proud of little man. What's he training for? Huh? Basketball. Oh basketball. Yeah. Like are you training like basketball drills or like working out like life? No. So how you do it is like if you want to build an athlete, right, you have to build a foundation, right? And so the foundation right now is strength and endurance, right? And it's just like the first, a lot of people, and this is just for anybody, right? If you just like trying to work out, a lot of people just like go to the gym and they just walk around and don't really know what to do. And so if you want to build out and have like a goal for your body, you have to build a foundation. Like as a kid, he's 13 years old, just turned 13. He doesn't know how to run. Most people don't know how to run. You don't know how to run. You don't know how to breathe when you run. You don't know how to breathe when you train. So we're building a foundation. I'm getting them strong. We're doing a little bit of weight training. And then we are going to build his core and then we're going to build the structure on how to run. That's in the morning time. And then at night time we do all basketball drills. And one of the trainers that trained Deer and Fox, I got him to come work with him. So he's going to hate me in about two, three weeks. But I hated my dad too, but now I'm retired. Shout out to him. Is this going all summer? All summer long. Yeah. I'm delaying all my summer plans. I told him I'd lock in with him. Isn't it like AAU season right now too? See, that's the thing. Kids love AAU ball and stuff like that. And so I told him, I said, listen, let's take a year off AAU and let's train you. No AAU basketball. And he was hesitant at first, but I was like, it's better to train because it's an industry now. I said this a while ago and I saw an article about it. I said this years ago on this podcast that nowadays is different than when we was growing up. When we was growing up, it was talent. And then you got coaching and training. That was what was kind of like unique about my position was I had talent as a kid, but my dad played college ball. And so he knew how to train. He knew what to do, especially with my body type. And so it put me ahead of the curve a little bit. Now it's an industry like child training, getting kids. Oh yeah. Yeah, it's a huge industry. And so what's happening is you're having kids that aren't as talented, but have the means to train and right, wrong or different. If you outwork people, you will get better than them. They always used to say talent has a shelf life. And so now what you're seeing is kids with like resources, they're getting coaching really early and it's putting them in positions to succeed at a way higher rate. And that's only going to continue to grow because the industry is getting so big. And so he said he wanted to, you know, this is what he wanted to do with his life. You know, I used to be a professional athlete. I know how to train. I know how to work. He's in a unique position because we have a lot of resources and I don't mean like money. I just mean like I can go talk to like a Jamal Crawford or whatever. All the connections I made over throughout my lifetime and like really get real knowledge about this game as well as the shit. I know, you know, I used to ball big to you. Jamal Crawford. Yes, my dog. I loved him when he was on the Hawks. Yeah, that's my dog. Greatest ball handler of all time. I argued this with Clyde Jackson not too long ago. I don't give a fuck what he says. I know he's a Hall of Famer, but I think he's stuck in his era. Jamal Crawford runs circle. He thinks he's Isaiah Thomas. I'm like, come on, dog. He does make a good point though. But he says, he's like, yo, false man, they change the rules. The rules are different. Like when we was playing, you couldn't have the ball. You couldn't have a ball on the side that was carrying like a carry on your ass. Yeah. And so he's like, he's like, we had to, we had to dribble like that. So like when you see them old cats and you know what I'm saying? Like he's like, we had to dribble like that. I was like, that makes sense. I understand what you're saying. But when they changed the way he took it to another level. Yeah. Some of the videos of carries in the 80s, it's like it's nuts. You wouldn't even look at it now. Yep. Mm hmm. My driver's in the call for carried a lot when I was when I was growing up. And now it's, did it even call it actually anymore? It has to be egregious. Right. And even then. They usually know. I, you, you talking about that though. I can't believe we haven't done this. I want to do an episode on like youth travel sports. Cause that, that deal is insane now. from when I was a kid, you know, which I mean, that was a long time ago, but like they- You're still a kid, man. You can, you have to pay to like watch those games online like your kid and they're charging $30, $40 to get into tournaments and like the money people spend on it is crazy. It's your, oh bro, it's your, bro, I remember last season in my son's AU tournament, I'm the type of parent which I advise all you parents to be the type of parent, bro. If you have a kid on the court, sit your ass down and watch the game, dog, stop yelling at the refs, stop yelling at the coach. I don't give a fuck what your pedigree is, dog. Shut up. Nobody wants to hear that shit, dog. Odds are your kid is not gonna be a pro. Odds are your kid is not gonna play college sports. Just enjoy the experience and let your kid be a kid. Like the only time I'll talk to my son is if he looks at me in the crowd for advice, you know what I'm saying? Like sometimes they'll look at me and he'll be like, you know, what do I do? And I'm like, okay, you got to box out. Hey, watch his left hand. You know what I'm saying? I'll give him a little advice like that. But these parents, dog, I remember one time last year, like they kid is balling and his motherfuckers running up and down the sidelines talking shit to all of us, the parents. And I'm like, dog, like it's not even close to that crucial. Then they start to yelling at the kids. Kids can't even enjoy their experience. I don't know if it was like that when I was a kid cause I was always locked in the game, but it is gross, dog. It is not a pretty sight, man. I think that's what it is. A lot of these parents like that's their meal ticket. They want their kids to be their meal ticket. Bro, let these kids be kids, man. It is yuck. I want to get a good guess for that. So I don't know if we could do it by Thursday, but I want to do an episode on that. Cause I think some of the stuff that's going on is really interesting and crazy. Like people will go into tens of thousands of dollars of debt so their kids can play on the best travel team or whatever. And then they don't get recruited at all. And football is the one sport where you not only do not have to do that, you can't really. There's no like, there is an AAU football. Like it's, you know, you're just playing high school and that's kind of it. But like basketball and baseball and soccer and like those youth teams are money printers. Yep. It's been like that for years for baseball. I know them cats, Audemars, Puerto Rican cats, them South American cats, they, I think they will be actually like subsidizes a lot of that shit. Right? Like they put money. They have like academies and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. You know who would be a good guess for that is Greg Olson. Yeah. How was it supposed to be on his podcast? I know you were. Well, can we do a home and home? We can get him. I'll be down. Probably not this week, but yeah. All right. Yeah. We'll get, and then, but then you've got to, you've got to do us a solid and go back on his. Yeah. Yeah. I thought I said that up for you. I was totally down. It's just, you know, the scheduling conflicts. But that's just the first person that came to my mind because that's like he talks about all of that. Yeah. And how detrimental it can be for kids, I feel like. You got to remind me, there's two I want to ask you about. Connor, the first one was, I don't know if you saw it was a while back, there was this little kid who like hit a home run and he flipped his bat and all the kids were like around and they were surrounding him, hoping it was all happy. There was people that were like lambasting this little kid saying to wear the parents and blah, blah, blah. I know the video you're talking about. Yeah. So I know, I think I know what you're going to say. To be fair, I wish I knew the name of the team or something. People should go watch the video. He did more than flip the bat. He was like, I think if I recall correctly, he was like kind of taunting the pitcher as he was going around the base. He was doing a lot. He was doing a lot. And he was maybe 10, 11 years old. Mm-hmm. I think so you're going to say that you're fine with that. Hell yeah. Yeah. And listen, if you're playing high school baseball and in the state tournament you hit a huge home run and you're fine. There is an element of respect in baseball that kind of like unwritten rules and stuff that people don't like violated. But I am generally of the opinion, if you had a home run, you know, you shouldn't have let him hit a home run. But when it's 11 year olds, I think you should be teaching them like, hey, that's not, you don't do that. If you get to the big leagues, go fucking do that. If you had a home run off a major league pitcher, do cartwheels around the bases. But when you're 11, have a little bit of respect. I understand. I like it if it was my kid, right? So one of my sons plays ball and he liked to talk shit a little bit, right? And if he plays bad and he talks shit after the game, I say, you can't be talking shit if you stinking up the court. Like lock in, you know what I'm saying? It looks bad. Don't do that. If he's talking shit and then he gets mad at the other teams, I was like, dog, don't talk shit if you can't give it. If you can't take it, if you can't take it, don't pop shit. And at the end of the game, you shake hands and you show love. Because it's that it's y'all are competing, y'all are in the middle of the game. Hey, so I like to be a little chippy. You got chirpy chirpy. I'm okay with that. But like, I'm always like, yo, there's a certain level. And so like, I understand what you're saying as far as like flipping the bad shit. Like if it was my Calvary, I'd be like, yo, good shit. But like maybe tone it down. I understand that. But if my kid was the pitcher and my kid was mad that he flipped the bat, that's when I'd be like, don't throw, don't throw my fastball. And there is an element of that. But again, when it's 11 year olds and even if you just toss the bat with a little stank on it, like, okay, whatever, I if I recall correctly, they that team where it was wearing like go pros on their helmets. Like it was a whole organizational thing. Like show. Yeah. Yeah. Like that shouldn't be what you're what you're teaching kids. So the second one I want to ask you about was this was recent. There was a kid at a track and field meet. Did you see these? No, I don't think so. So look at this. Look at see if you can find a video. There's there's a kid at the track and field meet who won, I think it was 300 hurdles. And he was kind of did like what you sing both did. And he was like, you know what I'm saying? And it's a state championship, mind you. And he he kind of taunted a little bit. And then they told him after that race, if you do that again, you're gonna get dequeued. And then he had a four by four team four by four and he was the ankle leg. And at the end he just hold he just held up his hand while he's passing the line and they dequeued the whole team for a state championship. And to me, that was oh, weak as hell. Okay, I found it. All right, you look at the video and tell me so I don't see the first one you're talking about. I just see him holding up the hand. Yeah, I mean, the first one was very similar to that. It wasn't much more than that. So you're so but you're saying he had been warned. Yeah, he got warned. So so in a vacuum, I don't I don't find this to be egregious. But I do think pragmatically, if you had been warned about that and you still did it, then like, I mean, that's very a very dumb thing to do. I don't but like the holding up the hand, it's not I'm not offended by it. It just seems like it if I was one of that guy's teammates and they had said like, hey, knock it off. And he did it again. I would be very pissed off. I would be mad at the second place team. I followed the teammate on the second place team. That's what I'm mad. I'm like, I'm like, y'all gonna hand us that I'm like, I'm like, I don't want it. That's just how I'm like, I can't how. All right, but then they say they say no, we don't want it. And then they what go to the third place. Eventually somebody's gonna gonna say, all right, that's and that's where you show your solidarity. Nobody accepts the shit. They won the shit. Give it to them. What are we doing? But it's not like, I mean, you know, if it's not going to go in the record book, they all know who won. But this is a state. It's a state championship. It's not like a regular track regular. Try and I understand. To me, like they know they want it's like Louisville, the basketball title that they won that the NCAA took away. Like I was at the game against Michigan. I saw them win it. Everyone knows they won. Like you can say, OK, you didn't. But at some point, like, what does that do? I agree, which is why I'm like, the whole DQ shit for taunting is ridiculous. Anyway, taunting is that was the only thing he did. I would say that's insane. I don't know the first one. It's not much more than that. It seems like a like a bad decision to have made, even if the conduct is not like that wasn't near to the level of what the the other thing you were talking about the baseball kid. No, I mean, two different levels for sure. But I just want to get your opinion on those. I'm all for I mean, there's a there's a fine line. Like I saw pictures of these videos of these one kids, this one group basketball kids. I mean, it was balling though, but they was talking the most shit doing layups on cats and then doing a little, you know, too, too, too small thing afterwards. There was this John. See, that's the kind of stuff you can't do. That's why you have to teach the kids a baseline of like, OK, have some respect. And then, you know, if you're a senior in high school and you're beating the hell out of somebody, let you can talk shit to them. Yeah, it's a top down thing. I don't I don't ever mind shit talking, but there's a there's an art to it. There's an art to it. There's there's a way to do it. That's a little tasteful, you know. But if you if you whooping somebody has any reason to talk shit, like if you dog and somebody. And yeah, yeah. But any who use. Yeah, I want to do that as an episode. Yeah, I think that would be a dope, dope episode. And yeah, that would be dope to have Greg Oson on there. Shout out, Greg. No, you've got. I said, shout out, just shout out. This episode is brought to you by Shopify. Starting something new isn't just hard. It's terrifying. So much work goes into this thing that you're not entirely sure will work out. And it can be hard to make that leap of faith. 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I don't, I don't know how much you've seen of this. I'll just read this tweet. This is from Anthony Bradley. Clemson is $1.5 billion in debt. Syracuse is closing or pausing 93 programs. University of North Carolina plans to cut spending by $89 million over the next three years. Duke recently let 600 employees go in a $350 million budget cut. And Indiana public colleges announced a plan to eliminate or merge 580 programs statewide. Then here's another tweet. Uh, uh, the University of Vermont lost 7% of its incoming freshman class year over year. And next year they're projecting it's going to be 15% lower. And then here's a chart of the fertility rate in the United States. Uh, that in 2007 just goes basically straight down. When obviously kids born in 2007 are all going to college right now. So there is a, an interesting, you know, theory with, with some evidence to back it up that college might be in some trouble generally. So this is just not sports. This is the entire, no, this is like student body. Ironically at, at the same time college sports are exploding monetarily. The colleges themselves are, are in trouble. Is there any follow-up information as the, the reasons as to why? I mean, I think it's that there, I think it's a confluence of the birth rate went down. Uh, right. It was a perfect storm of technology exploding, financial crisis, uh, more dual career households. All of that happening in 2007. And if you look at the birth rate, it was, it was 2.1 in 2007. Right now it's 1.6. I don't know what those numbers. Oh, that's babies per woman. So we're down, we're down half a baby per woman since 2007. So I think there are fewer people. The cost of college has also risen dramatically. And now you have AI and things like that that are taking away jobs that you would have needed to go to college for even five years ago. So I think just all of that combined, like, I think there's going to be a pretty steep decline in enrollment. Babies per woman. That's what it says. Let's see. It says 2.1 is replacement rate. So I guess that's what you need to maintain the population. Um, that's interesting. I think, I mean, I hear a lot about it about the, uh, the gen, the, the generation below me are just, they're just not having kids. They're just people just don't want to have kids. Um, I haven't looked much into it though. That's interesting. So of course, uh, the, the three of us other than you will have gone to college at the, the perfect height of the, the deal. I'm very thankful to have paid all my student loans back quickly, but like maybe this is what will finally drive the cost of college down. People just stop going. Yeah, it is a greediously expensive. Uh, I, uh, my daughter's a junior and we have a 520. I gotta look back into that 20 months since I looked at it, but I had a 529 plan for all my kids when they were born. Um, see how much that covers, but it's about to be a nice little chunk of change about the handover. Interesting. Yeah. Well, yeah. So, uh, you know, we'll monitor over the next five, 10 years, what that kind of amounts to. I just thought it was very interesting that, uh, college seems to be not doing great despite the cost rising. What is doing great? I mean, everything's expensive. What is, what is doing good right now? Everything is expensive, but there are still industries that like, like, uh, I think Disney world just raises their prices every year and people keep going. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm sad outside of like entertainment. Shit. I think sports is always going to do well. Entertainment is doing well because people need it. Like some kind of escapism from their reality. I think that's always going to be the case. Um, but like what is there an industry that is actually aside from Lockheed Martin? Uh, I hate to say it, but like AI. But that's all propped up by like fake money. We don't know how well that is doing. Yeah. I would say, I would say off of the AI thing, like because, because of AI, I think like the power industry and the energy industry. But Erin, you're saying like a consumer. Good sector. Yeah. Which I don't, I mean, if you, if you classify, you know, all of that is entertainment, like there's only so many other ones. Like I think restaurants are down. I saw that Nike's down quarter of a quarter right now. Yeah. I saw their, their stock was not doing well. Yeah. Maybe like Amazon. Yeah. Doing well. And it's like a, like umbrella for, yeah. I mean, they own everything now. What about like skincare? I'd be buying shit. I'd be buying shit. I'd be buying shit. I would just, as a purely a guess, I would imagine it's, it's down just as people try to spend less money, but I don't know. Are we in a recession technically? No. I don't think like technically no. Yeah, I'm not. I mean, I understand it's not great. That's not what I'm, but are we technically in a recession? Not to my nose. I think you would be well aware if we had hit the benchmark for it. They'd be touting it all the time. It's two consecutive quarters of GDP loss. Is that what it is? So here's the overall scale open AI. This is just chat, GPT. Overall scale open AI is roughly 25 billion in annualized revenue as of February, 2026 generating about 2 billion per month that covers consumer subscriptions, business products and API uses combined. I think they're kind of throwing all of that stuff. Subscriber base there around 50 million total paid subscribers across the plus team enterprise and pro tiers, including over 7 million enterprise workplace seats. So they are generating profit. They are generating profit. I think they're just losing on how much they're investing back into it as far as like data centers are concerned. I'm sorry. They literally can. They can keep losing money and then people are like, but this is so, you know, we, we, we have decided the value of this is $40 trillion or whatever. And then they just keep getting infusions of cash. And then doesn't say, say, moment just wants if something crashes, he just wants a government bailout. Yeah. And he wants it to be a utility. Right. Scumbag. The headline number people usually want is that 25 billion annualized figure, but the cleaner answer for just consumer subscriptions is harder to pin down publicly because opening that doesn't break it down cleanly. Uh, it estimates around eight to 12 billion dollars annually from like subscriptions that they're actually taking in. That's a lot of bread, though. But yeah, I'm trying to think if you, if you just classify a bunch of stuff as entertainment. I guess you would say the housing market for sellers is doing well right now. But I, I think that is about to change because I just saw we have the largest delta of sellers and buyers that we've ever had. Like prices have gone up so much that now there are too many people trying to sell their houses and not enough people who can afford to buy one. So those prices should seemingly come down at some point soon. So even like that is going to flip. So I don't know what sectors of the consumer economy you would say are doing better than normal other than entertainment, which will seemingly always just go up. Yeah. Damn. I don't know much about the housing market. I stopped paying attention after I got my house. Yeah, you got in at the right time. Yeah. Well, what else you got on your list, man? Um, have you been following Alpha Gal syndrome at all? Alpha Gal syndrome. To his credit. I think Billy do a video on that. Billy football was early on this. I was like, where have I heard that before? So yeah, he was early on this and it's becoming a problem. So there's these ticks. They're called Lone Star ticks that spread this disease called Alpha Gal syndrome that makes you unable to eat meat. And there is a paper that was written by two medicine professors at Western Michigan University who published it in a journal and they say it is quote morally obligatory to genetically engineer Lone Star ticks and spread them across the country to infect people with Alpha Gal syndrome because it is a morally indefensible to eat meat. So they say therefore it is obligatory to infect people with this disease. They call it a moral bio enhancer. Because this is sound like a boogie man. There's no way that they they said this. That is real. Yeah. Where's the paper? This is the tweet. I need the I need the paper. Okay, here this guy says, read it yourself. It's called beneficial blood sucking. It's the title of it. Beneficial blood sucking by Parker Crutchfield and Blake Hurst. The abstract says the bite of the Lone Star tick spreads Alpha Gal syndrome, a condition whose only effect is the creation of a severe but non fatal red meat allergy. Public health departments warn against Lone Star ticks and AGS and scientists are working to develop an inoculation to AGS. Herein we argue that if eating meat is morally impermissible, then efforts to prevent the spread of tick-borne AGS are also morally impermissible. After explaining the symptoms of AGS and how they are transmitted via ticks, we argue that tick-borne AGS is a moral bio enhancer if and when it motivates people to stop eating meat. We then defend what we call the convergence argument. If X-ing prevents the world from becoming a significantly worse place, doesn't violate anyone's rights and promotes virtuous action or character, then X-ing is strongly pro-tonto obligatory. Promoting tick-borne AGS satisfies each of these conditions. Therefore, promoting tick-borne AGS is strongly pro-tonto obligatory. It is presently feasible to genetically edit the disease carrying capacity of ticks. If this practice can be applied to ticks carrying AGS, then promoting the proliferation of tick-borne AGS is morally obligatory. Well, they start from a premise that is wholly incorrect and then go from there. What's the incorrect premise? That eating meat is morally impermissible. I don't... I'm not footless. Don't get me wrong. But I do think... I always think about... Okay, we live in a time where we feel like we're on pretty firm moral ground in juxtaposition with our historical ancestors. So I always try to think, okay, what are we doing now that 200 years from now that would be like, how the fuck did those savages even live like that? I do think... I do think eating meat is morally abhorrent. I do. But you do it in spite of that? No, I do it because I grew up in this culture and I don't think twice about it. But like when I... I can't morally defend it. I think your argument would be... And correct me if I'm wrong, but your Lord and Savior be stoic upon you a hierarchical structure of we are the most important beings in the land. Therefore, we need to eat to be fruitful and multiply. Go Peter, kill and eat, yes. But also, I just... that like saying that it's morally impermissible is a factual statement that you can't... it's an opinion. What do you think... do you think it's morally reprehensible for humans to kill dogs? You can say reprehensible. You can't say impermissible. You can have the opinion that it is reprehensible. But to say impermissible means it is factually true and agreed upon that that is not to take place. Well, this is why I think that he's correct. That do think it is immoral. Because I... You can think... again, you can think it's immoral. Which I would also disagree with. We're the only species that like goes out of its way to kill things humanely. Every other animal is not going to stop eating meat, but that's beside the point. You can think it's reprehensible or whatever word you want to use, but when you say it is impermissible, that means everyone agrees that cannot occur. Well, there isn't a moral stance on earth where everyone agrees on anything. Moral no, but there are things we all agree on. There what? Like 2 plus 2 is 4. That's a fact. But we're talking about a moral from like... I agree. You cannot make an irrefutable moral statement such that you claim it is okay to then genetically engineer insects to spread a disease to people. So you're saying... Okay, I get what you're saying. It's impossible for there to be something that is... There are things that we might all agree are morally impermissible, but that other cultures do not. I guess I just don't. Impermissible, not allowed, unallowable or forbidden to be tribes and action behavioral rule that violates established guidelines, laws or social norms. Yeah, maybe that's not the best word. And this is something that... I mean, what percentage of the population eats meat? 80, 85, 90? Probably more than that, yeah. So to say it is impermissible is... And again, even if... Say you grant them that, which I certainly do not, then it is morally permissible to not only permissible but necessary to spread a disease to people. No, it's some psychoshit. Absolutely. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Even if you grant their premise, which is wrong, the rest of their thing is still insane. Yeah, no, that's wild. I was just saying, I do think it's immoral, but like... Nah, dog, can't... can't fucking... I would argue it is morally impermissible to intentionally genetically modify ticks to hopefully spread disease to people. I think you would be correct in that assumption. You should write a paper, a response paper. What journal is this published in? This is ridiculous. Um, Bioethics, it looks like. Is that like a... I don't know enough about... Bioethics is a medical ethics journal that combines biomedical and social sciences to tackle the moral aspects of topics such as organ transplants, aging... Some other stuff, but yeah, it's a journal. So I don't think that they actually want to do this. I think they just... so in the conclusion it reads, Importantly, the convergent argument is not necessary for to be pro-tonto obligatory to promote tick-borne AGS. Our argument is intended to satisfy philosophers of different normative persuasions. If any of the convergent moral theories is adequate, then some argument can be made for our claim. Our argument is perhaps stronger than it needs to be because all it takes for one of... All it takes is for one of consequentialism, rights-based, deontology, or virtue ethics to be an adequate first-order theory. For example, if we relied entirely on consequentialism, one might object to our argument. So yeah, I don't think that they want to do it. I think they're just... Hey, I think they're hedging their bets, but in order to write something this insane, you have to want to do it. I don't think they want to do it though. You can't... you can't... argue this, like, if you're not in favor of it. Uh... Yeah, I don't know. What else you got to do this? No fucking... that was the... that was psycho, don't... All right, I've got a fun one for you. Run it. You grew up in the era of the golden age of Pizza Hut, some might call it. Absolutely. So there is a... there is a company and, uh, Tim Sparks is the guy who, uh, I don't know if he... the owner, CEO, whatever, uh, of this company that has purchased 80 Pizza Huts, uh, around the country, and they are restoring them to their former glory. He's bringing back the salad bar, the red cups. I think he's putting Pac-Man in them, and he wants to make Pizza Hut great again, as it were. I mean, I'm all for that. I don't know how that's gonna last, though. Um... Oh, I think this is... this is a killer business idea. I think people are gonna go nuts for it. I think it always has been. I think the reason that they went away from it was because of the resale value of the property, if the business goes under in that particular location. So, like, if... if... Because you still have to sell... you don't have a harder time selling the building to businesses if it's shaped like a Pizza Hut. You'll be like... Oh, you're saying... you're... the businesses that you can tell used to be a Pizza Hut? Yeah. You'll be like, yo, where's the car wash that used to be a Pizza Hut? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's just a harder sell in this... in this beautiful economy of ours. I don't even care about the exterior, but I would... there is still... there's still one Pizza Hut buffet left in Nashville that I go to maybe once every couple years. And uh... I think my favorite part was the kid was going up watching the Pizza Get Made when they used to roll the dough and shit. You could watch them? Yeah. Pizza Hut has lost... I mean, Pizza in general has lost its fervor to me, like with the kids, like with this generation. Like Pizza used to be like a treat. I think... I think now it's just... it's just a part of... like I said this a couple times, I was probably like... that was the only food that used to get delivered to the house. Yeah. Like that was... that was like pizza delivery. Pizza in Chinese. Yeah. I don't even really do Chinese too much, but like pizza was the thing. Like it got delivered. Or like at school, we used to have Pizza Fridays. If you... if you... if you act well, teaches you to order pizza. I think now ordering is just so prevalent that it's kind of watered down the surprise. Pizza's here. Yeah. Well, shout out to the kids. Yeah, that shit would be dope. They're also bringing back the summer reading program. What was that called when we was growing up? Book it. Oh, you got another one. What was it called? I forget this one. Do you have AR? Accelerated Reading? Oh, I was a Minnis on the Accelerated Reader program. I was a Minnis for Book It. I was getting free personal pant pizzas. Like it was my day job. Yeah. When I would go to my grandparents house in the summer, they... there was the Pizza Hut thing and then their local library had a reading program where you could get, you know, shitty little toys and stuff. So I would double up. I'd read a book and I'd turn it into Pizza Hut and I'd turn it into the library. And then you'd two for one. Did you guys have at your local Pizza Hut the buffet? I don't remember having it as a kid, but like I said, there's still one in Donaldson in Nashville. The Pizza Hut buffet in my suburb growing up where I would turn in my Book It tickets had pudding. Really? It was... I think about that pudding more often than I should. It was such... I'm sure it was just like snack pack pudding thrown into the tub. It was so good and so you'd have like pizza and then pudding and it was awesome. And I don't know if any other Pizza Hut buffet had pudding, but I loved it. I love Pizza Hut. Hard pivot. I have a teed off. I'd love to hear it. And I should have said it earlier, but I just forgot. I... The amount of disdain that I have for these motherfuckers though... I love to know who we're talking about. The motherfuckers that yell after tea shots. Mashed potatoes. Yeah. Sad squash. Get in the hole. Shut the fuck up, geez. And you want to know something? I hate them. Those are the parents and former 11 year olds who were running around bumping their chest around the basis. That's the culture that is permeated. I don't know, man. Maybe. Whatever that's going to stop that shit, I'm with. And if it's euthanizing our youth that... You don't have to do that. I'm with it. If it stops the yelling after tea shots, I'm with it. I can't stand it. It's not like... It's like... You know what it is? It's like when kids are playing football, they're like, it's like... You know what it is? It's like when kids... Like if you're in a kid's class, like in a classroom, and the teacher's just down and somebody does the fart noise. It's not funny. Yeah, it's attention. They want... They just... They need attention. Funny to like the two or three delinquents that may think that's... But it's not shit weak. It's whack. It's not funny. It's not clever. I hate it with a passion. Like... PJ should make a rule. Kick the motherfuckers out. Or let somebody run a 1v1 fate on them if they do that. And you would think most courses would... Obviously, nobody can replicate the magic of Augusta. But you would think most courses would want to be... They see the decorum and that kind of thing, the mystique that Augusta has. And you don't want your course to become... Aside from the waste management, which like its whole branding is kind of the debauchery nature. Waste management is trash. Sure. But if you're... You know, what was the... At Aaronic, what was the name of the course this week? Something like that? Don't know, yeah. Yeah, something like that. Like you would think you would want your course to be known as like, Hey, this is a nice place to come watch golf and like people are respectful and... You would think they would discourage that kind of thing. When did this happen? When did this start? Like I don't... I don't... Like all of a sudden it just became normal. I don't remember when it started. I can't... I don't remember it when Tiger was playing, but maybe I was the one paying attention like that. Like that era of golfers, Tiger, VJ, Phil, them cats. I don't remember it like that, but it could have been. I don't know. Madeline, check me on this. Was the first like kind of time this happened? I remember people would yell, Baba Buwi and isn't that a Howard Stern thing? I don't... Was this a Howard Stern creation? I'm getting Baba Buwi is... Gary Dele Betay, which... Yeah, he was a Howard Stern guy. ...is a Howard Stern EP. So I remember like that used to be the thing people would yell, right? I remember, I think the first one I heard was mashed potatoes. I've heard of Baba Buwi. I don't know if they're saying it on the golf course like that, but... Baba Buwi is a common often criticized shout made by spectators at PGA Tour events immediately after a golfer hits the ball, originating from a Howard Stern show fan attempting to be heard on TV. So I think that may have been like the first... It's like a meme that they... One of the first ones. I could be wrong about that, but... I was dead wrong. I asked our beautiful AI companion and they said, the post tee shot yelling era usually traces to a fan who thought it was funny to y'all getting the whole... Off the tee on a par five before that getting the whole reserve for chips, long putts. Yeah, they had a... The accelerant was John Daly in 1991. The behavior took off when John Daly became a star after unexpectedly winning the PGA Championship, bringing lots of new people to tournaments, many of whom knew nothing about the sport and only cared about seeing John Daly put the ball on orbit so they could yell, you the man are getting the whole... Baba Buwi liked the ball. Baba Buwi liked the candle. Mashed potatoes. Yep, and I guess it did happen in Tiger area. I just didn't catch it, but this shit is so corny though. It's weak. It's weak, man. It's weak. And I know there's going to be some defenders of this shit, but get the fuck out of here. I hate it. I don't even feel like this is an old man tag. I feel like it's just like, yo, shut up. It's like a... Like if children were doing it, I mean your kids, you know what I mean? They'll be like, grown men sitting next to their wives. Baba Buwi. Shut the fuck up, bro. Now, I don't... I agree with you, but it is interesting to me. You started playing golf what, two or three years ago? The three... It'll be four years in August. Okay. And now you're a big... You're a strength of game guy. No, no, no, no. I'm not a strength. You're like, too much is being allowed now. No, no, no. I'm not a strength because apparently that's been around since before I was even into the sport. I'm not a... I'm not a... I would love to grow the game. I want to get different demographics in the game. I want to make it more accessible to people who can't afford it because this is a wealthy man's sport. Like you got to have money to play, right? I want to grow the game. But I... There are just certain customs to me that are lame. Like, lame. That is... I don't disagree with you. Yeah, I think that shit is corny, dog. I do love the beauty and the purity of the sport. Who was it once that... was saying, if you go and make noise, make noise throughout the entire swing, right? It won't fuck me up. But if you do it like a little bit, then it fucks with me. So I'm like, either allow all noise or no noise. Well, that'll... The all noise will never happen. I think that would be dope. Who did... I think it was it... Was it Siwu or Tom? Tom Cairn, one of them cats. Like before some of his tee shots, if there was a lively crowd, he'll... He'll be like, hey, get it up, get it up. And he'll hit his shot during while everybody churn the shit. That would... That's fire to me. That's dope. But just the single... It just doesn't mean anything. It's so... It's so pointless, though. You're gonna hate it. It's just dope. It's dope. But anyway, that's my... It's attention. It's these TikTok kids. I think they grow men. They're like, grow men. They're like my age. Maybe a little younger. 20s. They ain't a 20s. Yeah. It's your generation. I know. You've been off your generation for a while, though. Always. I'm getting... Listen, I'm closing in on my target age of 42. It's so far from there. A little while to go, but we're... We're getting there. 12 or 13 years from that? Yes. That's a whole lifetime, though. Yeah. Yeah. But like 13 years ago, I was 16, and I feel like I wasn't 16 that long ago. It does, but my grandpa used to say, he said, the older you get, the further down the road you see. Yeah. All right, P.G. Grandpa Carl, man, it's my dogs. All right. What are you? Stella Blue Coffee is more than just great coffee. It's coffee with a purpose. That's why we started We Brew to Rescue, a nationwide campaign using proceeds from our new Ready to Drink cans to fund 1,000 pet adoptions this year. Every can you crack open helps a real pet find a real home. It's as simple as that. Made with 100% Colombian coffee, each 11-ounce can delivers smooth, drinkable energy with a boost of protein, available in Espresso, Cafe Mocha, and Espresso Sweet Cream. They're the best can lattes out there, period. Drink Stella Blue, fuel your day, and help save a pet's life. Get yours now at StellaBlueCoffee.com, Amazon, and select retailers across the country. What else you got on your list, Kira? That's pretty much it. Did you listen to Ice Man album? So, yes. Okay. And I don't listen to rap very much anymore. I listened to rap that was made between 2006 and 2017. That's my range. I did, on the way to the golf course the other day, I did put it on. And there were a couple songs that I was like, okay, I can vibe with that, but I was not overly impressed. Now, I do understand there are two other albums that I did not listen to, so I can't speak to those. But I was not. And I'm curious to hear your thoughts, because I know you're a, I don't know if you're a Drake hater, but you're a Kendrick lover. No, no, no, no. Like super duper Drake fans? If you don't love everything he dropped, then you're a... Right. And I have one of those in my life. Not me, though. Drake is in all of my playlists, a bunch of my playlists. I love Drake's music. The battle has coising the minds of the internet when either one of these two artists come out with music now. Like there is a sensible way to talk about these cats. Like, and for whatever it's worked out, they're forever tied to each other. I hate that, but I think that's just the nature of the internet. Like when Jay-Z and Nas went at it, right? I think like Nas is in my top five, Jay-Z's in my top five. And when they went at it, my generation was like, they took sides, they picked sides, but it was never this like... If Drake drops, it's immediately like, where's your boy Kendrick at? If Kendrick comes out with that and says, what's Drake doing? Like, we up. It's just so fucking dumb. It's just ridiculous. Because Nas, I favored Nas when that battle went on, Nas and Jay-Z. That was probably the second or third biggest hip hop battle of all time. Nas was probably one of... I had Nas up in that battle. But like, it did nothing to my appreciation for Jay-Z. Like, zero. Like they went at it, they sparred. I feel like Nas got the best of them in his story. It is what it is. This is what I feel about this. Like Drake and Kendrick went at it, they sparred. I feel like Kendrick got the best of them. It didn't change the way I felt about Drake's music. Like, I got still fucked. I think he's one of the most melodically talented rappers for sure. But like, just musicians that we've seen in a long time. I love it. I love it. He's super talented. But to get to the album, this has kind of been my grab or drink for a while. Because I just don't... He don't make music for me. Like, and that's fine. That's just... I don't expect that. It's just like, he'll make some very catchy shit. Some stuff that sounds good. He can rap his ass off. Like, he's talented. It is what it is. But it's just nothing that like, I'm about to be 40. I ain't trying to listen to how you're going to show somebody. So is he though. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, that's just... He's not... As I'm growing, like I used to... I grew up in the NWA era where gang banging on wax, that type shit. I was with it. I wanted all the smoke. I wanted to hear all of that shit. It's what I was into. But as a 40-year-old man with kids, you know what I mean? I'll be golfing and shit. I can appreciate the vibes in the background. But as far as like something that I'll sit down and like, really that resonates with me, it just doesn't. Like, it doesn't. Especially as... The odd thing about Drake to me is this, like, the majority of street dudes that I know, and you met some of them, right? When we were in San Diego. And what was the sentiment you got there, right? They ain't still trying to do that shit, right? Like, if you was born in it, like, you do... If you're smart, you do your best to get out of it. Especially as a sensible man with kids and shit. What's weird about Drake to me is like, you weren't born in that life, right? Like, you may have had some struggles growing up or whatever it case may be, but like, you weren't a street dude. Like, very obvious. But now you are. Like, it's like you went backwards. And I don't understand that. Like, this is your Ice Man album, right? A lot of this music is like how you a mob boss and you can take people out. You got money on people's head and it's like, why? I don't want to be around that shit. I got a couple homies who are still in the street. And if we ever do do something, I'm like, I'm not going nowhere with you if you want that. Sorry. I can't. But I look like if I'm not fighting with you, I'm not... I don't want no problems. I want a peaceful night out. I'm going to go out and watch jazz and drink wine, dog. I'm not... what that shit. That's your life. That's what I don't understand about Drake is why is that lifestyle appealing to you now? You are a billionaire, presumably. You have every access to anything that you want in your life and you have all of this animosity built up and want to play mobster. I don't understand that. But do you think it's a... I mean, it's a projection, right? Like, he's not doing any of that shit. I don't know. I hope not. That would be dumb as shit if he is. I think... I know some of the cats that he rolls with and some of them are from Houston. Jake Prince and them. Jake Prince is known to be like that. And I just don't... You shouldn't have any issues with people like that. Like, if you got a problem with... When it comes to rap, just keep it... Just keep it rap. Like, you don't have to... Like, I just don't understand it. And then, like, fans will... They'll... They'll back that shit. And again, you can say this about plenty of rappers out there. And I do. And I will. It's just that's not that appealing to me. It's just not. Like, so... I don't know. I thought it was an okay album. It's nothing that I'm probably gonna double back too much. There were some really dope songs out there. Like, there was just one... Two Heart for the Radio. The first half, I loved it. That shit was fire. Second half, he switched it to the West Coast beat, because he was definitely trying to get back at Kendrick on this. Because not like us, it was a very West Coast inspired jam. And that beat switched to me was... I liked the beat, but I didn't feel like he caught the pocket on it, just my opinion. But yeah, I don't know, man. So, you know way more about this than I do, because I just... I saw a TikTok with all the lyrics he had in the album that were like responding to things that Kendrick said. Did those land for you at all, or like, does that even matter anymore? Well, not... No, like, I don't think... I was not looking forward to Drake... Responding about the beef that happened two years ago. I was not. But you could tell... Like, this is why I feel like he had an opportunity. Like, to show like real personal growth is... I can't relate to being called a pedophile by everybody in the world down there, because that song was huge. Can't relate to that. Fair preface. Yeah, so like, it's... That's gotta be... That should probably hurt, right? I think instead of expressing that in a way that... I feel like would have been productive. I don't think he did. I think he just took more shots, which could open the can back up. I don't know where Kendrick's going. I don't know where Kendrick got with it. My thought is he'll leave it alone. That shit is dead. But yeah, I can't relate to that. So like, those feelings and aggressions he had, he still... He took shots of a lot of people, and he feels like everybody came at him. So, you're fair enough. Like, the opposite of that though, right? Because when he... I don't know if we get into deep hip hop lore, follow me Big T, but when we... He had a beef with Pusha T. Right? This is a while back. And Pusha T was the one that kind of revealed that he had a son, right? Which was like big news. After that, his next... I think his next song that he came out with, after that battle, he lost that battle, right? After that, he came out with that... That, Kiki, do you love me? He just continued doing him, and it was all good. Like, it is what it is. I feel like this cut him a little differently, and he's like kind of like... It hurt him, man. And you can tell it hurt him. But, again, I can't relate to being... Being mopped like that. And those are some wild allegations that we don't... That we don't know are 100% true. The other thing is, and we talked about this earlier, with the diners. If you release three albums, number one, I'm not listening to all that. Number two... I only got through Iceman, by the way. I couldn't... Right. I'm less inclined to believe that you think all of that is good. Like, you're just putting out everything you've got. Give me 13 really good... Morgan Wallin does this. He has 30 song albums with a ton of great songs on them. But then, if I ever go back and I'll just hit shuffle on the whole album, I've never heard this song in my life. You totally forget some of the stuff that's on there. Give me 13 to 16 very good songs. And the other ones, don't worry about it. I'm with you a thousand times. I've never liked the... There's one exception, Tupac. And I'm clearly biased with that. That was my favorite ball of time. Tupac came out of Double Disc. All eyes on me. I was also a kid, though, so I was like, give me all the Tupac. I feel like maybe this is how people feel about Drake. That's fine. I'm with you, though. And this is why I kind of like favor a Kendrick. Drake's approach is because he'll pop up every two or three years and give us a little bit and then just go away. But to Drake's defense, I think this album release was... This was the discussion. I don't know. You know, he's in the lawsuit with UMG. And he's in a contract with UMG. And I think... I don't know how much truth is, but this is the streets in, that he released three albums to satiate his... His obligation to UMG, the contract with UMG. So maybe after this, he's independent. That's... I haven't verified it. I haven't cared enough to verify, but that's what they saying. But to your point, I don't know that I'm gonna... Like, I'm not in a hurry to listen to the other two. I'm just... Like, I am a Drake fan. Like, I do like his music. I fuck with his... Especially his old shit mouth. I was planning to pick up my son up from school. And he gets in the car. He's like, oh, please turn that off. I was like, you know, fucking with it. He was like, man, it's so bad. I was like, ah, let me just... I got him. I'm listening out of respect, man. Let me listen to the respect so we finished it. And then he was like, I made a whole old Drake playlist just because of this. And I was like, okay, let's butt it. So I gave him the ox. And we started listening to a lot of the old Drake. Be hidden. I was gonna say, play him some Find Your Love. You know, where did that go? That shit is hard, dawg. That shit is hard. The other one I take care of was that... with Rihanna. Man, I jammed that like a few... three or four times. I fuck with Drake, dawg. When this whole thing started, I was back when I was on Twitter, like a lot of the Drake fans were like, oh, just Kenny Stan and... bro, yeah, I am. But I like Drake, too. I like both of them. You can like both of them. It's okay. It's cool, man. You can like both of them. But overall, six out of 10. Yeah, it was... it was unaffensive. That's fine. I was well with you. I was well with you. Not my favorite shit you've done, but... you know, if it's for you, it's for you, dawg. Can't even knock it. Yeah. All right, that will be Nantle Dosenfor the day. We're gonna have a voicemail episode for Memorial Day. So, we're gonna look out for that. Unless there's anything else, man. It's been a pleasure seeing you again. My brother Connor. You as well, big dawg. Leave your voicemails at 347-5600-401, please. All right, we'll catch you all. Number one more time. 347-5600-401. 0401. Leave them before Wednesday. Leave them before Wednesday, please. And we'll get to all of them that we have for an episode for next week. Yep. Gracias. And then after that, Eric, we'll be back. He's out with his more successful family. Yes, he's out with his real family. And that's okay. It's okay. All right, y'all. Peace, love. Don't murder anybody. Goodbye.