Jey Uso

hello welcome to what do you want to talk about hosted here at wonderful wwe warehouse thanks to ben brown for setting this up it's all the real stuff it's as authentic as it gets it's as authentic as this podcast what do you want to talk about is a fanatics and wwe original production and this one special. This is probably the number one ask for guest. This is main event time. Ladies and gentlemen, 10 time, 10 time, 10 time tag team champion, former world heavyweight champion, Royal Rumble winner, main event, the yeet master himself, multi-generational talent, the one and only ladies and gentlemen, main event, Jey Uso. I want to say, I want to expect that introduction, my dog. Appreciate that. Right out the chute, right? No foreplay here. Let's talk about Fastlane. Let's talk about the press conference. Come on. Man, Oos. All right, look. Yeet was already popping, okay? That press conference is what lit it on fire, though. And if we could really get that out the way, man, look, none of that was planned. Deuce. Me and my dog Cody was out there just doing what we do. We're just hunting. Come on, man. We're just dog hunting. It's probably one of my funnest moments. When I watch it back, I was like, oh, I'm a little embarrassed, but I liked it, man. I mean, we just won the tag team titles. I've never did that when nobody else but this man right here. So, like, why not? You know what I'm saying? Why not? That, uh, I want to ask right out of the gate, because to me, there's no it's the most fun thing is knowing we didn't know we had a press conference. So from a professional standpoint, we were just being pros. We were first, crowd was hot. Come on. And we don't get a chance that often because I remember saying like, oh, come on the bus. And you're like, yeah, I am going to come on the bus. We never got a chance to just have a brother-brother camaraderie moment. And I didn't even know. It should have been obvious to me, But I didn't realize until you said it in the press conference, you had never won the tag titles with anyone other than your brother. Yeah. Other than Big Jim. Yeah, a special night for me, man. I already knew what time it was, man. Like, that night hit different. Who's going to be that? Who's going to be that? Who's going to be that? It was Matt's. Don't worry. No, it was incredibly a special night. And again, I'm going to preface the press conference with we were just on the bus, in the safety of the bus, having a good time. And I don't know who it was. It was either Johnny Cone or the Z-Pak himself. Someone walked on there and said, y'all are on the press conference and y'all are first. And I remember there's just a moment of, oh, OK. Yeah, great. I was like, hell yeah, we're ready. Let's go. Let's do it. So to me, the part that I guess the only little tinge of embarrassment I have was I thought I was fine. I thought I remember Jackie came on the bus and like fixed me up. And I thought I was tying my tie. I thought we're good. We're good. Then within 20 seconds of us shuffling out there and you're just, excuse my language, you're fucking around with the Velcro on the title. and all this noise and not to mention the worst press corps of all time, God bless them, because I love them, but they're just staring like we're in the on the other side of the fence at the zoo. There's not a question right away. Frikan Kassama posted up against the wall, all wanting to see what was going on. It just felt like it felt like once we got out there, we were now in we were in the deepest of waters and yeah and it was i just kept thinking like all right cool just ask like some good questions you know and okay and then they weren't coming as fluid and and you started talking about people losing money on betting on the judgment day uh and then you were wiggling closer to me ain't nobody feel me they i felt you you know and that whole room felt you so i'm talking about kasama shout out to kasama by the way she took that in stride you You know, she's sitting over there. It's like a summer man. I know you know, man. Come on, man. Saxon started climbing on his shirt. Saxon's an easy clown. This is a totally different press conference, and I won't go too deep into this because it'll get cut from this show. But one time I got asked a question that was a no good question, and I did my best to answer it. And instead of Saxon being like, all right, moving on, he just kept the mic right here. I'm like, bro, we're out. Yeah. Like, that cut, that guy's got one. Go ask the kid over there waving his hand. I had an incredible time at the press conference. I think the funniest moment after was Michael Hayes, the legendary Freebird Michael Hayes, a man who once was quoted in a promo of, I think he said, I drank so much as it drowned a battleship in a backstage interview. Michael, of all people, was the most adult in parenting of. Ah, yeah. Where he hit me with a. Hey, guys. Hey, guys. It's not like you didn't know. You didn't like. And we had to explain to him. We didn't. We didn't know. Bird. They say, y'all want to go do the press conference? We're ready. We are ready. We were. Far from ready. We were. We were ready in our own way. No, we was ready, man. I got the yeet movement. Yeah. That's where the yeet movement was born. It was, come on, man. I was really just happy to be in that moment in terms of, as you said, Yeet was moving. Yeet was also a little bit more of a language going on where you would say Yeet to somebody or your brother would say Yeet-ness. And you heard it a lot more in conversation. You'd hear it a little bit in the stuff that you were doing at the time with the Bloodline, which the Bloodline saga at a certain point, we've got to dive into what an unbelievable success it's been for the industry as a whole. but I was so glad that it just became, you put your stamp on it there. Yeah. You put your stamp on it there. And now, I mean, it's right there. Then the hand movement, like it all worked, dude. It's so fun. It's cool, man. No, I mean, do you feel tonight or in general, you go out there and you're yeeting and the crowd is all doing it and you're finding these kids and they're standing next to you and you're able to run it back and we're doing encore after encore. You know, what's the most amount of encores you've run? Probably six. In a dark match. Yeah. And I just kept, they kept doing it with it. And that was a whole dark match. It was like a big party. Now we're working. I had a Mexico, like I'm about to put Taker out there now. Taker was at a Mexico show. We did a house show in Mexico. I think he was on that one. Man, but I was like eating the whole time. And then finish. I walk in the back. Taker goes, he looks at me because he's watching the monitor. He goes, man, he goes, you're working. You're now you're really working. You know what I'm saying? I was like, yeah, I hit it. You know, and it's cool. Once you there's a saying, it was work. Like, you know, you work like you over. But once you like really, really over you are. There's a different art to the game where you kind of not say don't have to do nothing, but you kind of can just, you know, like gain empathy and sympathy from the fans when they really, really, really, truly love you. Yeah. And I think you're at that level. I finally, like, I see it now. I understand it now. And I just want to keep it, Uso. I want to keep all that energy, man, because I know it's going to go away one time or whether out. I feel like I'm hot and I just want to stay hot, Uso. I just want to run it to the ground. It was like. It's funny. You said the word hot. Sammy Zane and I always talk about how hot the coffee is. And that's our way of how it's a crowd. I don't know, man. I was feeling pretty hot. Oh, it was hot. It's just a fun. It's addictive, though, huh? For sure. In a sense, it's addictive. You're talking about six encores. They're having a blast. Yeah. Time of their life. And as growing up in a wrestling family, you're from one of the greatest lineages in the history of the game. You also know sometimes it goes on. Sometimes the party keeps happening. And then other times it's a short window. I'm of the thought. I'm always thinking, oh, this is a short window. We've got to. You? We've had a fun run. But I'm always like, this is a short window. We've got to have. Let's get all we can. I don't know. maybe it comes from the days I was looking at the sheet with you, which I didn't really need to look at a sheet with you because I have so many actual memories of wrestling you before any of this. Like if you were to come to me, big Jim, you chicken and tell, tell them what was going to happen in the year 2023, 2024, 2025 and going forward, we obviously that just sounds better. Right? You're going to have one word that the world says infinitely and does with you and rides with you on. You're going to be in the conversation for the greatest tag team of all time in the conversation. And in everyone's conversation, not just in certain pockets, every wrestling fan, hardcore, casual, widely considered one of and who knows, maybe the greatest tag team of all time. That was all. If we were looking back at that, I wouldn't have believed it. Hell, I wouldn't have believed in my son. No. Let alone, you know, I, man, I don't know, man. I give, you know, talk to my dad sometimes. And my dad will, to me, it's hard to, like, get my dad. Yeah. But, man, say I do a big match or whatever, my dad, like, when I talk to him after, man, hey, man, like, he won't even say nothing. He just, yeah, you got it, you know? Like, got what? you got yeah you'll figure it out he's still i'm still trying to figure it out yeah you'll figure it out like but like it's like a stamp of approval yeah i appreciate it that silent communication almost that like you said a couple moments it's kind of funny the moment where you're looking for a hey how was it or anything and there's nothing that really can be said i remember sean michaels one time i came to the back and asked how something was he's like you already know because it was one that was really really good you already know i'll tell you when it's bad but don't ask when you already know he kind of put it in a very sean way i thought i got it and then same thing with the dead man with taker at a match recently that i i could just feel we had a moment something came out it came to the back and uh asked him oh anything and he just looked at me i thought all right cool silent truth yeah yeah but but it's almost because pops pops knows yeah pop pops knows what it takes to have it, to get there, to feel it, to share it, knows, knows. American Dream Team. My friend Wheatley, American Vodka right here. Myself, we like to consider ourselves the American Dream Team. I like to ask my guests, who is your American Dream Team? Which you've been part of factions and teams already, so I'm actually curious as to who makes up, who's ride or die. War Games, Survivor Series, you can do as many as you want. You can do animals. You can do spirits. you knew fictional characters, it don't matter. I mean, of course I'm going to pick the bloodline, you know, ride or die. But if I could throw one, I'd probably go with Umaga, okay? I'd probably go with Yokozuna, okay? I'd probably go with King Kong. I'd probably go with Rikishi. I'd probably go with Vader. So this team's not beatable in any case. That's a good team. Yeah, so five of the greatest big men of all time. Naga, Rikishi, Vader, a King Kong, and who else? And the bloodline. Yeah, that's an unbeatable team. Maybe a Pomeranian, you know what I mean? A miniature Pomeranian. If you really want to go, my three French Bulldogs, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I put Farrow in there right before Brandy was like, don't be saying that old dog. How old is Farrow? Dude, I don't even know anymore. Damn. I told somebody he was 15 the other day, and then they're like, he's 14. He acts 300 years old. And then the vet told us he's not deaf. He's just not listening. That's good stuff. That's like he can hear just fine. He is not interested in what you have to say. And I thought, all right, that's cool. He's also all white, so you can't tell. Brother is gray. Clean, no. Yeah, he just looks. He looks young. He looks eight years old, so just living his life. I wanted to ask, can I ask you about your dad? Of course. Because you know your dad loves his children. Yeah, yeah. And I was, whenever your dad talks about you, our big gym, I get the biggest kick out of it. Yeah. Because that is exactly what I think any son would want of their dad. Like, yeah, my kids are the best. Man. Your kids suck. Man, my dad, my dad's cool as shit. My dad is so cool, man. Yeah. I can't say anything about my dad, though. You're going to have me crying on here, man. Oh, no. It's all right. It already happens on the show all the time. Yeah, dog. Man, my dad is just, man, now that I'm in the game, man, I see how hard he, like how, we'll just do wrestling 20, 25, 30 years ago, man, just trying to hustle, being broke, being kids of a wrestler, like not having money because, you know, he's doing territories. Like wrestling wasn't, he didn't get his break until I hit high school, you know, like freshman. Like we was kind of grown wearing like, you know, like hand-me-down clothes, like old enough to know. Luckily, we was good in football. That kind of covered us, you know. Also, there's a Samoan family, small Pensacola, Florida. We got a big Samoan family, so everyone knew who we was. Motor Grove, Ballpark, Roman, we all grew up in there. Just me and my dad would, I knew when we was playing football, whatever, he would never make the games because he was gone. Yeah. So as soon as I see him walk in, like, there's a crowd that would just follow him, especially in high school. I'm skipping. Freshman year, that's when he hit Rikishi, like, his thing. Yeah. We got noticed. Now we're in high school. We're, like, balling. We kind of have our own, the twins and Joes. Like, who are these kids? They can play football, let alone we're tied into this. This is their dad here. Yeah. Oh, so when he would walk in the, I could just see a crowd, I just, like, I'm on the field. I know my dad's here. Boom. Made me want to do good, but he would always just, I'm everywhere, man. But, like, I know how much he worked and sacrificed and still tried to make the games and then go to work and then try to figure out these characters. Like, that's what my dad was good at shit at. He's like, man, always evolve. Don't stay stuck because you'll get skipped. That, Solson, he did the, he was good at switching characters, man. Then he found Rikishi. Now it works. Yeah. Now you just take off, man. And when you find something that work, man, you, you hang on to it and you give it all, you put it all, man. And just being a wrestler now, and I know today it's, it's an easier hustle and it's, and I'm not saying that this shit's still hard. Being a wrestler, this life is hard. Yeah. I think when my dad was coming up though, man, he was, he, he went through the ringer, man. And I just like, he's still alive today, man. He's healthy. I know like a lot of people, they're up next. So it's like everyone's getting older and, you know, our parents are getting older. So we're getting older, you know. My dad is our biggest fan, though, Brent. I cannot lie about that. Big news. WWE and sports fans, the world's number one sports fan festival, Fanatics Fest, is making its return to New York City. 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I didn't know that Rikishi, the big moment happens as you're an older, or young adult, essentially, having gone through that and it hadn't necessarily ticked off and all. You said the hustle is maybe easier today? Maybe. Maybe. It's certainly not the bump in each night and the lighter envelopes because the money and economy was different for wrestling then. Sure. But, I mean, I watch you walk in here with someone from Talent Relations that's telling you what you need to do next and where you need to go. and what was house shows has been replaced by a lot of other things that are equal in an opportunity standpoint there's something about value to them there's something special it's just different it's just like we're navigating a new hustle you know i do yeah i i do miss uh wrestling every night though oh my gosh there's something like you said it was like uh we're it's crazy because we're wrestling once a night, maybe twice a night on both TVs, but we're still traveling everywhere because you're hitting all the side deals, all the side stuff, meetings, appearances, commercials, whatever you need to do. But at the end of all that, you knew at 7 p.m., it's all you. We're wrestling from 7 to 10. Yeah, that's our hour. I missed hitting those cities, at least at the end, doing what we do. So I had suggested some of the top brass in the company for a myriad of reasons. Camaraderie, the reps, the general sense of working here. It's hard to think you work somewhere if you're only there a couple of days a week, right? Versus the schedule for when we first started where it was full tours, live events. Then you come to TV and then you're home less time. Two days. Two days, right? And sometimes a day and a half, right? It's the half, the travel day. But I suggested them, I said, run one weekend a month, call them house shows, make them almost, almost poke the fourth wall a little bit in terms of what they are. They're canon, but they're not. You're going to see some of the stuff you see on TV, but you're, it's, it's going to be a bit more of a mixed bag. And maybe you're going to see some people you've never seen before who are getting their first rep in front of you and, and, and run them that way where there's an intimacy to them. That's advertised. This is a house show. That's what you guys are getting, and it's going to be awesome. They're so fun, though. They're so fun, so fun. I can't believe, like, even the young generation now, like NXT coming up, like, I don't think they're ever going to experience a house show loop. Never learn that, man. I mean, who knows? Things could be changing. We could be in a year now, but, oh, shouldn't have said that. Sorry. Hey, let's edit that. Let's cut that out. That was a bad idea. Let's cut that out. You know, but one of the things that I really fear is, is not, it's one thing to say, Hey, the reps and learning how to do it. That's one thing. Actually, the thing I fear the most is it's hard to say you're part of a team if you're not playing with your team all the time. Right. Yes. So it's see people and yeah, Hey, you know, great job last night. MSG, you know, but those are a lot easier when I know you already. Right. When I got to feel, you know, like when it doesn't feel obligatory, when it doesn't feel, and again, it will be replaced by some other energy. But, but that I thought for me, it was incredibly valuable. You know, it's tight, you know, and, and you learned and, and there was a rhythm and it helped with the live TV matches and who knows though, I mean, in terms of what's next, but a lot right now as things are funneled and international, cause we still get our international tours and there's still these pockets. I think, I think it's a different hustle. And I always try to find, I always try to find, find the way in terms of, okay, how can we navigate this new hustle? You said something about when seven o'clock hits, you know, it's match time. I just yesterday for the first time, I think I verbalized it. I told someone within the company, I said, I'm going to do a two hour rule. Show starts at eight. I'm not doing anything between six and eight. far you know unless you know that's a real because between that's when i think that's when i it's on us if i go out there and you know miss carmelo hayes by a mile that's me who gets laughed at on the internet if i go out there and stutter in a promo that's me who gets it's not going to be whatever i was making a priority you want stuff like that get me there early i'll be there i'll be there in the day but between six and eight let me just think let me just think of what needs to be said come on let me just think of the moment we're in let me look at the guy i'm talking to let me have him because it's not fun when you just get through tv versus yeah that was that was rich you'll know at the end of the night if it was good or bad right right yeah yeah and i feel like getting through isn't it versus versus oh somebody progressed yeah somebody moved a piece on the board here you know it's all stress stressful man because you know you know it's when you get the tv It's not like we just get there and wrestle, man. We get there early. We're working all the way until sometimes working during the show, doing side stuff, side interviews, and the show's going on, and you're trying to think about the match and everything. So it all becomes, I like it, though, man. I like answering the call, too. I like being in the deep end. I like that stressful feeling. I used to bug out. Now, man, I run it. That's the flip side of the coin. it. Yeah. Be a pro. Being able to be like, yep, got it. No problem. I mean, seen as the master of it. Yep. Got it. And that's a big thing when wrestling school is just hard to teach unless you're working with somebody who did it. It's not knocking anyone who hasn't done it, but unless you're working with somebody who did it, one of the biggest things you can teach somebody is time management is knowing, okay, I'm in my gear. I can go do this. I'm going to do this read. I'm going to walk right back over. I'm going to meet Michael in this room. We're going to talk about it. We're going to go out there. We're going to run it down to 10 seconds off the air, but you know, And when you do that once, and I feel like that's a skill that's translated in Hollywood a lot. In terms of all you hear about is Cena on these sets, how incredible he is, how quick-witted, how first there, last to leave. I feel like it's a little bit of a WWE skill set. It was his work ethic nonetheless. Yeah, man. But a little bit of what we did. I mean, it's his advantage over there now. Yeah. He's taking our wrestling. Yeah, that's right. You know? Yeah. Bring our kind of style into it. And I just, I don't know. Like you said, it's a different kind of hustle. What do you think in terms of where you are right now, right? And everything that's going on right now. Man, I love it, Uso. Because I never, you know, I don't know if we talked about just goal-minded in general. Man, Uso, from the earliest of my career, and I'm going to just be truthful, man. I've never me and Jim has never been in a position like, yo, we're going to push these two. I have in ring work has gotten me and Jim to where we needed to be. Yeah. I bust my ass in the ring. I've always thought we was good in the ring to the ring. Then you finally get the point where, all right, let's let them talk. We talk now we can talk now this this like this level opens up, you know. Yes. Now we can talk. we could talk now it's like uh man can we kind of like wear what we want to wear now they're like yeah sure like yeah it's all steps it's like yeah man you you build really you you you gain trust yeah go out there and do what y'all do man so once once i i recognize that it was like company like trust us yeah and like love us man that made me made me comfortable to go out there and like Like, I'm able to be comfortable. Now when it works, I'm helping the company. Like, it's all working, man. I'm just so grateful. And I appreciate everyone and just everyone on my journey, man. Because it's been a hard one, man. It has, bro. I bust my damn ass. I bust ass, bro. I'm a twin tag team. Now they know me. Yeah. so I mean I take pride in that and I and like I said I don't take nothing for granted every time I go out there I say it every single time whether it's chicken salad chicken shit I go out there and I and I you know man we be in there like yeah a lot of people don't don't see that side or even feel but we we know like when it's go time we locked in and we'll sit there and watch each other sexy with the oh man you see Cody's man you see that like whoa man you see you know Penta did it. Like, we're all still competing. Yeah. You know, especially with you, man. I still compete with you. I still, man, come on, man. My boy. Come on. I still compete with you. I still compete with Seth. I look at the top homies. Man, I consider myself a top guy. Internet, whatever. Y'all say, well, I'll, man, whatever, man. I'm him. I'm J. I'm main event J. Uso now. Man, y'all know which twin I am now, man. Me and Jim can stand right by each other now. Oh, that's J. Man, whatever. 10 yards back, man, all I know is Cody, I'm going to be honest, man. We ain't young bucks no more. We kind of like on our way out if we want to go out. I still feel strong. I still feel good. I look good, man. Like, I'm ready to go, man. 15 more years, I'm with it. I'm down. This is all. I love wrestling. I'm going to give my life. I have. This is you too. This ain't no job. We grew up in the game. That's the difference. And we can't explain that either. We grew up, we, this ain't, we grew up in it. Okay. When we was four or five, this is what we know. So it's not a job. It's not, it's not what, oh, I want to go do it. It was never a, it was never a feeling of that in us. It just, you're going to do this. You know, like I can't, I can't, I can't put a finger on that kind of feeling news. The only real ones know, but I'm, I'm just going to, I'm going to man, pray, be strong. I love being around my brother Zeus because it feels like it's not work. I'm blessed to have that. You said something. You were talking about being a twin, and you were talking about the struggle and it being a struggle and the lows and these before any highs and the not being selected or not being won. And then here you are, Netflix, Unreal. This is a famous scene now where I'm watching and Triple H is telling you about strapping the rocket to you. Now, this is after digging through and finding it. I think my question becomes, does that feel good in terms of good? You know me. Like you said, you know me. I'm going to take this to the moon. Or do you still feel, because I always get the sense from you and I always give the sense from me that I almost don't see any of the highs. then I'm still of the thought, hmm, like a chip. The chip is still there. And I don't know if you're a chip shoulder guy if it ever goes away, right? But in that conversation with Triple H, how does that make you feel? Like after he did it. Yeah. I still feel like he never did it. Like I, in my mind, I never, I still feel like I got more to give, Boos. Yeah. I got more. I won it one time. to me it happened so quick it's like like i didn't like i didn't feel it but when i did have it it was i did feel the i did feel uh some different pressure that i've never felt in wrestling like some kind of a responsibility even how i carried myself around the boys again it was cool being like you know one of the boys but man being the leader just want to like move right uh um, good example, but man, I'm still, like you said, no highs, man. I'm still like locked in. Yeah. Man, I'm trying to take it all. I'm trying to take it all still. And, and all the ones that you talked about trying to take it all, it becomes the world is not enough. You know, it's, it's, it's an addiction, but also it's, it's a responsibility. And I remember the first time somebody told me and I didn't believe it, didn't buy into it, but the first time somebody told me, You're not one of the boys anymore. And I thought, I don't love that, but I do. Right? I always need to be at the end of the day, no matter what, because if that breaks, then you break this circle that we're all involved in. But also, I love that it was said to me because the sense of responsibility to move right at what that comes from. What you do, by the way, I don't know if I've ever shared this with you, and I hope others have shared with you, but look around the current locker room. Everyone's on a bus. I'm on a bus. There's not a lot actually locker room. Move right is a great way to describe what you do, because one of the shining examples of how to go out there and do it and do it consistently. And on a bad day, it doesn't change your performance. There's no boo boo face on a good day. It doesn't change it, but you are you are going out and you give it your all. You're trying to get it all. And I think that's just a great example. I know there's tons of the boys now, these young bucks, like your Carmelo Hayes, that they watch and see. And that's, you ain't performative with it. That's a real thing that they get to see. Yeah, man. I do like being with the boys. And like you said, man, you're always going to be one of the boys. But there's going to come a time where you're not. And a lot of the boys probably will never understand that until you get in that spot. now it's like oh you can't be one of the boys you gotta kind of dress alone because you can't tie emotion together because now when it's time to go against each other now y'all you in the backstage now y'all shoot heated at each other it's just business sorry but let's run the play let's run the play it's business you know a thing I started kind of adopting again we're all trying to figure it out how do you navigate this new role, new space one of the things I started doing and I don't suggest it, but I just noticed I've started doing it, is I play dumb. Right? There's a room for people. Well, I got an idea. Well, here's my idea. Here's my idea. I literally will just, oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because the real idea is going to come up in a minute. Yeah. We've sat here for a while. The real idea is going to come up in a minute. You know who's telling me to cut you off? You know who said that same thing? Who? My dad. All right. The OG move. He goes, you sit there. Everyone throws ideas. You sit there. My dad goes, you sit there. get quiet you think about it i'll come back to you man dad you og man you just ninja ninja in people yeah you're not you're you're you're thinking about it but everyone wants to throw yeah sometimes sometimes for me i've seen some man these conversations are heavy man these rounds are live training yeah it's long and you just think i'm just gonna sit here and if it comes to me i'll have something i'll have something but if it doesn't i don't know there's something you can't play dumb forever because you eventually have to run the play right but i've noticed that some of my favorites aren't aren't the loudest in the room you know and also they're not even with netflix being here there everywhere they're not performing for that right that's one of the cool things about unreal at least in my experience with them is yeah you're getting me because half half the unreal i didn't even know they was recording filming you yeah yeah yeah like you're getting a pretty quiet curmudgeon slightly isolated deep in thought trying to get the best segment for the best for us all right oh man i like that pop said that we got a big hug me and pops yeah at uh the forum good i was moving to go do something i just gave him a big hug i don't we i don't even think we know him i just feel like i know him here's here's a little confession you may not remember this, but I was so teed up at the press conference and I knew like, well, we in trouble tomorrow or that was fun And then the next day they ran the whole thing and it full So I thought okay we good Maybe people liked it We good But I don't know if you remember how bad I was. This is how bad I was. I remember. Okay, but this is rough. And it's probably in a group thread with your brother. I wrote to you guys, do any white guys ever get a Samoan tattoo? I don't know. he was ready. I was ready. He was ready. When you said the thing about, I've never won a belt with anyone other than my brother. I was like, Oh dude, I, sir, I want to be his brother. I don't like, I, I was, I'm, I'm glad because you guys just laughed it off and you're like, yeah. And then I think somebody sent me a YouTube video. I was like, okay, that's not, I got you. Yeah. That's not, you said you ran the whole conference back. Remember how we went first, man, me and your interview. Cause I watched the whole thing just to make, just to see how, when you see. Man, me and yours was the best part of the whole damn thing. That match? No, our seg in the press conference. Start to top, bro. They should have let us do the whole damn press conference. Yeah. Because I remember EO Sky went after me and you, and then it was just flat. I was like, oh, poor EO. That's not even EO's fault. That was a combination. I wanted to run it back. You know, you've been the world champion now. The world champion. Crazy. the world champion man i wanted to run it back i was looking for i wonder if he'll do a press conference i was looking for these excuses just to like explode on the scene but then i also thought no like that's his right you can't just be the white guy who wanted that samoan tattoo you just you just come up you just come up it's in my heart right so they know it's in my heart uh it was like uh i don't know if you remember canadian stampede uh this calgary saddle dome match there's like it's a mixture of all the top guys and then against the heart clan yeah but the heart clan is made up of they're not all hearts you know it's like pillman and they just yeah it's all over the place and i always felt like there was this little camaraderie with me and big jim and you and like chicken and a few others that if someone was to show up in the locker room and throw down good fight bad fight not fight whatever it is i'd this would be my like i got these are not just the, hey, you're one of the boys. You're one of the boys. It's a whole other thing. Starting five. Yeah, I don't know how to describe it, but I always had that sense. Full speed ahead, by the way. Oh, man, I love you, man. Full speed. Sorry, I almost said, yeah, man. Full speed ahead, yo. I love you, man. Man, come on, man. And chill. Full speed ahead. How is your brother? How is he? Double knee surgery. What the f***? Who gets double knee? Stop telling him the double knee uppercut, man. Come on, man. Who gets both knees at the same time? And then, like, I've had a whole day talking about chicken, but he is, like, he's off and running as a wrestling trainer, and I know he's going to do more wrestling, but you've seen the outlaws, my nephews, right? Of course, of course. They're ready. Dude. Yeah. So you know that. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And they're ready for the whole trip. Damn right. Which starts, it's going to be. but I didn't see it coming. And the next thing you know, I'm like, whoa, pump the brakes. This ends with me, you know? It doesn't, though. You know, it's the family, the whole thing. But, oh, man. Are you ready to hold WWE history in the palm of your hand? Topps is bringing you closer to the action than ever before with WWE Topps Now, highlighting the biggest matches and milestones from WWE shows and PLEs throughout the year. Tops Now is enhancing the fan experience by connecting collectors to the superstars and spectacles that ignite their passion. Featuring stunning event-exclusive photography, each card is made for the moment, and for some lucky collectors, that moment could become the pull of a lifetime. Along with serial numbered parallels, some Topps Now releases offer a chance at rare short prints, superstar autographs, and even pieces of the mat, gear, or other items used during the featured match. So, which moment will you collect? With each card only available for a limited time, you won't want to wait to begin your Topps Now journey. Be sure to subscribe to the WWE Topps Now mailing list on Topps.com and follow Topps on all social media platforms so you never miss a single moment. Big Jim. Let me say this one time for Chicken though. Hold on. Chicken, besides Ray Mysterio, they're both like the same age, right, Luz? Yeah, I think so. Man, Gold does got one of the quickest comebacks. I have a bumping fan for you. That's on record. That's on record. Quickest comeback. Run it back. Watch this comeback. Well, how about the generation of hit the rope super hard, generation of see if you can jump higher than the other guy, and as a bad guy, hit the mat and get up faster than anybody else? Attack the mat. Where is that? I watched your cousin. I watched Roman take a super kick where it looked like a wrestling school 101 how you're supposed to take a back bump. It was attack the mat. And he doesn't have to attack the mat anymore. But that's the difference. You'll hear Steve Austin talk like, that guy hits the ropes slow. And, ah, I get it. That's the difference. One time, we were doing a sixer in Florida for Florida Championship Wrestling before NXT popped off, or maybe right when it did. It was the only time me, Dustin, and Dusty ever tagged together. And Dusty's just shenanigans, just his usual stuff. And I was on the apron thinking I'm better than both of them, which is absurd. and then chicken's in there doing his thing and he hit the rope so hard that the ring pinged and i remember my dad my dad looked at me just like what the fuck is he doing like and i wanted to tell him that's how he goes come on he knows one speed full speed there is not so so uh for those who don't know this story jay and jimmy big jim who i love big jim big jim yeah man we love Big Jim. Big Jim. Oh, so me, Big Jim, Jay, and Chicken, who's Dustin, by the way, we're in Innsbruck, Austria. We landed, got off the plane. You see this giant ski jump because that's where they train for Olympic jump. I don't even know. It was the only landmark I felt in sight. Innsbruck, Austria had a house, a staggering house of 1,100 people. 1,100 people. so not a great crowd but also not super familiar with the product we had been doing this tag match on the live events where we were doing everything dives goldie rolls uh goldie uh his sunset bomb all his new stuff he's crazy doing everything full dive over the top suicides and the question became when we got there hey not a great you know house do you guys want to kind of just lighten it up, change it up. And it was in unison almost. All of us just kind of. A little pause. Pause. And then I think Chicken's the one who said, no, full speed ahead. Full speed ahead, yo. Full speed ahead. FSA. FSA. That's in the group thread. FSA. FSA. And I always thought, yeah, I wouldn't have done it either way. I knew what they were asking, to be fair to those who were asking. They weren't saying be lazy. Yeah. They weren't. And now as I've gotten older, I get what they were asking. But still, I think I'd make the same call 10 times out of 10. Come on, man. And let alone Chicken made that call. Yeah. We're like 15 years younger than him over here. Man, let's take it easy. Nah, man. What did he tell you guys that one time he fell on the mat? He goes, give me a goddamn second. Oh, yeah. So we're all green. Like Goldust is like selling, okay? You know, me and Jim is just mauling him. We're 23, we're just mauling him. Man, Goldust breaks character, man. He's on all fours. He goes, wait. Give me a goddamn minute. And he's just sitting up. Man, me and Jim back up. This is in the ring. Shit. It's so mad. One of them must have slipped through. That'd be my favorite. This is in the middle of the ring. I'm sorry. He used to get mad if any of the segment was less than he wants his paint. He needs to get that paint off. So if he paints up and he don't sweat it off, problem. He'd hate. It was like, ah, sure. Now I got to get my sweat. So that's why he was hitting the ropes. That was insistent. And I don't know if you remember this, when we'd tag or tag against you, whatever it may be, his shoulders, rotator cuffs all gimmicked up. Yeah, it is. So he's got, he can only go up here. So I'd always get, you know, hold my brother's hand up. I'd get on the side with the shit on him. And he'd always like, hey! He was on the side of me. Chicken. Yeah, he got double knees. Double knees, man. It's crazy, man. Yeah. I know he's told me he's incredibly proud of you both. My man just. He raised us. He was my first, like, match on the road when I first got up. Him and Mark Henry. Oh, man. Mark Henry. Yeah. Like, man, that's crazy. Gold us tomorrow. I'm so happy, man. I get to, like, lock up with, like, because now you look at the building. Like, you look at the locker room now. there's no it's like Randy Kofi or that's in front of us you know you it's not so Rey Mysterio you locked up with people like that I tell people all the time I got to lock up with Triple H I got to be in there with Undertaker Shawn Michaels have you ever worked Umaga? I got in there with Usa on a live event tour actually yeah with my dad no but I'm ready if he's in the center of the ring I'm coming and let him know I'm going to keep feeding. Yeah, let's go. I'm going to keep feeding full speed ahead. I always say that not in a sense of braggadocia. I say, like, I got something from that. Let me pass it on. Right? I was working Hunter when he was still active. I got to work Sean on his comeback, Taker, full speed. Like, I got something from them. Let me share. I was geeking out when Edge came back in COVID era. Yeah. And I got to work him. Oh, yeah. AJ too. Yeah, man. It just, even when I won the first straps against the New Age Outlaws, I'm standing against, you know, Billy and Road Dogg, and I'm geeking out, you know. It's cool to, like, fangirl, fanboy in there sometimes, too, against your, against the ground. I fanboy against you, dog. Come on, dog. No. Eat. It'd be real in there, too. I like, I like it all, man. I like. Yeah, I like, I mean, it's going to sound. It gets real in there. It's going to sound weird, but, like, you leveled me with a couple of super kicks. Yeah. And I thought like, yeah, give me another one. That weird wrestler, like, what is wrong with these people? It's weird how we're friends and tight. Give me another one. The cooler we are, the harder we'll hit each other. Dude, back to the live event thing. I was telling somebody, another byproduct is it's a lot easier to hit your dude when that's your dude. If I barely know you, I'm like, sorry. Like last night, those damn police officers swarming me. I had to start swinging that stick I saw a clip of it today Oh my god, I was swinging for my life And I don't know any of those guys And then after, I thought, I wish I'd say to them Hey guys, hope I didn't catch you near you I don't think I did, but sorry But I didn't even see them So now all these dudes, they can grow up to be the next champ They've got this memory of me losing my shit With a kendo stick by the ring Beating up, you know, fake armed cops Felony after felony I was just trying to break into the business, man And you was very mean to me, dude Oh, I remember you You beat me with a Kindle sack. Yeah, I didn't even do anything to you. I was just trying to get clear. And you got Logan running out there with a bulletproof vest, swinging all around, doing Logan stuff, taking the 1D like this. You know, like, oh, man. He popped me when he put that vest on. So I was like, oh. He said, oh, he ready. It was Battlegrounds in two weeks. Yeah, bro, he's in it. Yeah, he's in that War Games. Oh, man. Relax. Cheers, man. Cheers, dog. this next question is part of a segment we call game plan fueled by game day men's health because let's be honest showing up at your best takes work so let me ask you what is your game plan for staying sharp could be physical could be mental could be family stuff whatever it is how do you stay in the zone and keep pushing even when life's stacked against you i think you get a a tight circle around you. I think you need loved ones around you, bro. I think you need a higher calling around you. I think love is it, though, man. Man, you know us. It was family-oriented, always family. That's me, love. That is a phenomenal answer. That's exactly why Game Dad is out here, helping guys optimize their energy, their focus, and longevity. You don't have to slow down. you just need the right game plan. Check out gamedaymenshealth.com slash Cody to learn more. Hey, what's that unreal stuff? Pop me, though, because when I watched it and they saw, you know, I did, I did, I missed a rope. Damn, I blew up. Hit the damn top rope. You know what I'm saying? But, I'm kidding. Pop me, man. I'm shit blown. Look, look. I'll say it. Hell yeah, I be tired. Damn, we only wrestling one time out of the week. You know, I had to get my stamina up, but, you know, damn, it happens. All right? But it popped me, though, because I was like, man, they really like getting all the raw footage. You know, there was a little camera in the corner over there in Gorilla, dude. That two-hour window I talked about, it's totally on us if we have a dud. It's also totally on us if we knocked it out the park, you know? So that's a tricky—I'm curious because I went from not liking Unreal to liking Unreal to—I can say this about it. There's nothing performative about it. That's a sincere production of what we're doing backstage, you know? Do you think it's too much? So here's, this is going to be my weird theory on why I don't think it's too much. And I'm curious, what do you think? Do you think it's too much? No, I like, I mean, it's a show. Let's go. Y'all really want to be smart about it like they think they are? Here. So I think the wheels turning no matter what. Game's changing. I like it because the old school part of me, and I'm giving myself away and saying this, but you'll never know. I like it because there's still work that can happen under the work. Under the work. Yeah. And that's the most Brett Sean level. What? Yeah. Yeah. Wait, that's. Work under the work. Who? Oh, they don't like each other. You know, one of those. If I can just get you speculating, we've moved. That's a win. And now I've given that away. So that was my play for Unreal. but also they don't give me a lot of interview time on there because a lot of it's just me rambling about, you want Unreal, I'm going to give you how my day's going. That's what you want, you know? There's some funny scenes in there. Work under the work, though. Work under the work. That could happen. Because that's the most old school thing of all. Yeah. Is the fans are, this is the thing people mistake wrestling fans. People think wrestling fans are, I don't want to say monster truck fans because I don't want to belittle monster trucks. But people think wrestling fans are dumb. Wrestling fans are smart. Very. They're passionate. They're loyal. Most of us in this room are wrestling fans. They'll let you know if they hate or like you. Yeah, they've only gotten more educated. So why shouldn't our product become more educated? Why shouldn't we be able to take them on a little, oh, they got me. They got me. And I think one of the things about Hunter that I like so much is still looking for a they got me. Okay, cool. You guys think you know? And good. I'm glad you do. Ha ha. You know, like. that's what keeps them coming back too yeah that's the whole if you want to keep doing this and then the young guns are such the younger generation of fans is is different in terms of what they like just right now what an opening by the way again can't can't praise enough for you come out there and they're all eating and they're next to you and they're so excited about that that's such i don't want to use the word metric because you can't i don't want to give that i don't want to sound sterile but man nothing will tell you you're cooking more than that yeah though you know that little that little guy or that little girl and i feel like right now in wrestling the opportunity to be a baby face exists again because of people like you to no he just does the right thing i'm gonna always go towards the kids oh yeah man and that's just what it is wrestling wrestling is for the kids oh man i always stick with that that help that that what it is man sometimes i do you get caught up with some like you know the noise out there Oh I know The noise And I not going to say it not in the back of my head Yeah. Because, man, we all human, Oose. You know, we out here trying to eat, too, you know. But I focus on the kids, man, because that's why I come out and I look for them now, Oose. And I haven't started—that just started, like, with the kids, man. And now we got babies. Now I just focus on the kids. I just like, yeah, just fun, man. And then I always lose the entrance. Not going to lie. I think I rib myself because when I go out there, I don't, I don't half ass that. No. In that moment, I'm giving it all with you. And then I forget, oh, I got to wrestle. Damn. Boom. You know? Yeah. Which is cool, man. I like, I like second wind. I like gasoline. It's okay. It feels real. Regardless, man. In that moment, I love it. Yeah. And then when you walk through the curtains, Oos, and the night's done, you know, you done showered, checked out, you know what it is, Oos. You sit by yourself and have that moment. Did you give it? Like, did you waste tonight? Yeah. There's some homies waiting to take your damn spot, Oos, and I'm not going to let them. That's a big one. Did you waste it? Because every now and then the answer, at least I know in my case, I've had a moment. Yeah. Sure. I wasted that one. Sure. that's one step that you took back right and if you were so far ahead and right exactly and there's others who are give their left their left finger for that i want to shout out to mario backstage because we talk about yeet a lot and is he gonna eat he's coming down we're gonna and he's been really good about identifying i understand the characters the story whatever it may be but also we have an obligation to this live audience they got to do their thing and if so we'll be doing And I think WWE is the one sport, entertainment, Broadway, however you look at it, we're the one thing that can do that. Come on. We can, no matter the circumstances, make sure that we don't jip our live audience, which is the great thing that Cena taught you. I, you know, we have that fun story about the dark match. Man, there it goes. Yeah. He did it on TV, though, so I don't mean to cut you off. No. The crowd was hot. His music was playing. He was like this. Let them. Like, straight to hard camera. Them. Them. They cut the music off just so the crowd could be a part of them. Very much so. All right, man. Well, like saying the young kids, I got captivated in terms of like young kids in the audience. It was just great. I'm a big Star Wars fan. People ask like George Lucas, all these crazy Star Wars questions all the time. Star Wars this. And to the point you had an older guy and your whole legacy has been about Star Wars. You don't always want to answer questions. And one time he just got a little frustrated. I'll have to find the interviewer somewhere, but he'd finally just say, hey, man, I made these movies for kids. Okay? Like, I know that we're all talking about them at 40 years old here, but I made these for kids. Come on. And I thought, sometimes wrestling, we have a very broad audience. Old, young, there was a 101-year-old lady in the crowd last night. We have a broad audience. However, that part of the audience is the largest. and sometimes doing the right thing as a baby face has been hard in the past because of how the audience was now you have the opportunity you have the opportunity big jim has the opportunity roman has the opportunity tammy zane has the opportunity these baby faces that exist la night has the opportunity cm punk to do something in a you know not to be pretentious but in a role model way. And that's, you know, when you're a kid, when you're riding with somebody, you're not getting out the car, right? You're, you're in. That's my God. That's you. That's a big thing. Every great booker, every great producer. And we've said that a bunch throughout doing these pods is when you finally go, that's my guy. That's right. And he, like growing up, Shawn Michaels was my guy. You're right. It was the kids going to go 10 years with you, rock with you. Yeah. I mean, look at the scene of farewell. Those dudes are old now And they were wearing those shirts on like the uniform version one. And now they got a little guy with them themselves, you know, like when Sean's around, when Sean Michaels is around me and Sean's the tricky one, you know, because Sean is Sean. A lot of serious talk, a lot of man. All I can look at is like, hey, remember when I remember and he's super kick diesel. But remember, he hit him with a camera and it took like 80 seconds for all to count three. But he still kind of through. You remember that? Like, that's all I think. Like, like, that's all I'm not. What he could be saying the most, he could be telling me, hey, there's someone behind you about to hit you with a chair. And I'd be like, in my mind. You remember Royal Rumble when. Yeah. You remember when you punched Brock twice and then you super kicked him and he went over the top rope? I'm still, he's still my guy. You know, like, oh my gosh, he's still my guy. You remember the time when you and a. You know what I like about that? And you were saying it is when you have identified somebody as, hey, He's eating. You treat it as a responsibility. And I feel like growing up in the business, you saw those who didn't treat it as a responsibility. You saw your dad did. The greats did. And then there's others who ships in the night. Got you. They're out. They're not here. They're not here. They didn't look at it that way. They didn't look at it as my obligation to this fan. Sometimes on my worst days, that's how I think of it, is did I do the workout? out? Did I look into, did I text with my writer, whomever? I feel that's my obligation. I'm paid extremely well. And my obligation is the bigger pay of being able to do this gig, right? You know, it's a great gig goose. Yeah. It's a blessed gig. Yeah. Hard out here. Sometimes I'll be thinking, man, what I mean? I'm complaining about catching a flight to go do an appearance. Yeah. Stay humble, ready to rumble. Stay in a game this long. Do you think you complain a lot? Man, I ain't gonna lie, bro. I do. Hey, but I do, man. But I do the work, too. So I have a kind of rule about I like to complain a lot. A lot. However, I'm gonna be there. Yeah. So if you don't know that I'm gonna be there, you start to get a little like, geez, it's this, this, this, this bitch. You know, versus like, no, I'm gonna be there. I'm just gonna really like make it difficult. Yeah, yeah. You know, I'm going to do my job. Yeah. I'm clearly going to show up, you know, but I really want you to think on the way it's going to be difficult, you know? No, man, but it's. I want Skittles with all the yellows taken out of them. Yeah. You know, just a little work here. You know what I mean? I wanted to mention it because it's right behind us. The Bloodline One Up is behind us. There's a couple of moments. The Bloodlines saga, as often referred to, and I'm actually a small portion of the saga, the overall saga, the story with you, the story with the tribal chief, with Roman, you and Jim separating, coming back, all the variables, Sammy, Mr. Paul Heyman. There's a couple things in wrestling we kind of generationally know, stories. And I'll give you some examples. Steve Austin, McMahon, Sting as the crow against Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels, the boyhood dream, Rick Flay. There's these stories that attach to a whole era. And I feel like the Bloodline saga and the Bloodline story, and not just the stuff you did, the output that the individual talents involved have are a massive, massive, massive part and probably will be looked on later in history as things get re-examined, a massive part of WWE's financial upswing, WWE's business boom, massive part, if not the largest part. And I'm curious what that feels like to know that it was magic when you were doing it. And not only that, everyone is kind of eating good because of something that you and your family did and the players that you involved because the bloodline story always had someone opposed to it and always was able to bring them up this is a story that nobody pulled down which is a really incredible string of roman title defenses uh tag title defenses you and him in the hell in the cell there's these individual moments to it that everyone's growing as a character his growth because i was away trying to turn heads with what i was doing and it's very hard to do that when the tribal chief is becoming a thing, when the Ula Fala is becoming a thing, all that. So how do you feel about it? I've heard innings, chapters, all these things. I always kind of consider it a story that's going on, but how do you feel about it now in a sense of where it's at? That's an iconic story right there, Uso. I think the crazy part is we didn't even know we was cooking like that. You know what I'm saying? It was like every week, what are we going to do? or like what did we do last week? You know, that's how we was. That's how the bloodline was rolling every single week. It didn't even have concrete. It almost came to a point where sometimes it would get stale. Something would happen and it would like revive the story. Yeah. You know, with Sammy or like just then just something always happened. It was even example. Like I felt like we kind of started getting stale a little bit with this bloodline. Boom. The UC segment. like the shoot pop segment, whatever. Yeah. That sparked something. You know, it was always something. And during the COVID era, Oose, I learned we just pivoted, bro. And I didn't know I was a part of that, just being in the room with Hunter, Big Oose, Heyman. Man, just the top. What are we going to do? And then it was almost like, man, we wrestled one time. And you know how you can hear everything in the ring? I was like, hey, it was, you know, like in pickup basketball games where you're playing basketball, you can hear people talk shit, you know? Yeah. That's what we need to do here. Like, I don't think it's, and Biggles, like, captivated it so, so good. It wasn't moves. away when he was talking there with me i would i would i would oh like match try to match the uh acting part and i think that's what elevated yeah that's what switched the game because we was acting through the lenses you know because there was no people yeah there was no people so we'll do something and him talking like just elevated the the product more i think and yeah and uh when the people got back, I feel like we kept, we have to keep some of that style. Yeah. And also, for the live people, we got to go too. But, put them together. I think that's what made the WWE style today like, like, and you know what they say today, it was like cinema, right? That's all they kept calling us, cinema, cinema, cinema, cinema. And I didn't even know, we were just cooking every week. That doesn't enter the zeitgeist without the bloodline stuff. It's really almost specific to you guys and anyone trying to match it, which is a good thing to try and match. And also, Oos, I take pride in all the promos and everything that I've done with my brothers and everything, because even with Big Oos, because when we're in the ring talking together, it's real. Like, connected, it's real. It's almost very hard, too, Oos, because if I can stare at my brothers, I'll, like, laugh. You know, it's fun being in there with siblings, too. But, like I said, Oos, like, me and you, it'll be real. Like I said, it's real easy to, especially brothers, me and Big Goose man I'm gonna do him you know and he gonna do me too but it just comes off comes off great man and you would have never told me it was five years we're still like kind of you know it's still alive I don't think it's dead oh no there's certain things hit a point where they don't they're never to die you know like the four horsemen don't even ride anymore and they never die NW like it's gone through its iterations and it will go through variables and there will be parts of it that were better than other parts but to be its own character in all this the thing that always impressed me was the individual output you jim roman sammy paul every everyone connected to it the individual output was very faction like in a sense that this faction can monopolize the whole show if we want can be the best tag match. Give me the best singles match. Paul, Mr. Heyman, that can be the best promo. So what's everybody else doing? Right. You know, that's, that's scary thing. And I think smart, you know, WDB, Triple H and in general, it's smart to go cool. Let them, let them go, let them roll until somebody better shows up until somebody can match that, let them roll, let them roll. And I think that's, that's just a wise choice. I just, I wasn't here. It's so funny because I'm part of it, but I'm really not here until the end. Man, we was running SmackDown. We were still running house shows. This Bloodline run, that was the last of the heavy set, heavy schedule, man. So I missed that, but I do miss some times, man. Them probably was the funnest moments in my career ever. It was with the Yeet Man stuff. I'm more so alone because I don't travel with my brothers no more. But that, we was together. Every word, bro. I mean, everywhere. I tell you what, have I ever told you a solo told me? And I knew I was like, yeah, you're Jay's brother. Like you. So I couldn't believe him because, A, he wasn't wrong. But also it's because I'm from a different time. This is fair enough. It's been long enough that I could share this. But there's a tag match where he's in there beating up my partner. And I jump down on the floor and I start banging the mat. like getting the people into it, you know, this, but I'm banging the mat. And he looked at me like he was going to rip my head off. And he never looks at me that way. And I thought, oh, I'm curious what that was. And we run the match. Nobody come to the back and he goes, hey, can I chat you up on something? And I'm like, yeah, I mean, everything is formal about this now. Yeah, absolutely. He goes, I don't really like begging for the cheers. They'll come. And I thought, yeah, you're right, because you've only ever been in tag matches with Jimmy, J, Roman. Yeah, you're right, buddy. There's going to be a night where you're in there with your generic guy eight and I'm generic guy four. And now we're just, hey, come on, guys, let's get behind him. There's going to be a night. And then I started thinking, oh, there might not be. Solo may never encounter this moment. And so in a way, I thought, I think I looked at him for a long time and just, yeah, you're right. Because you're right. I don't, you're not running that game like we used to run it. And you may never be in this situation. One day you might appreciate it. But the way he said it, I thought, oh, yeah, yeah. Well, Solo, you know, you showed up in the biggest program with the big, like, it's different. But he showed right up and he stayed in that spot. That's funny. Right? Oh, my. Hey, please keep this on the show, man. so you could see this bro he i was because i went home i went home texting my inner circle about like man have i like solo don't respect me like have i lost my i thought about it i thought about it like i'm supposed to lead him and he's he's telling me to don't cheer and then i thought no he's right it was hunter finally i was talking to hunter i was like yeah no he's not wrong because every tag match he's been in with somebody who's over who's he you know what i'm saying like he's someone who's over like come on you jay you know what i'm saying like it's a good stuff it's a moment so you know no i don't like to beg for yeah don't like to beg for cheers oh man and finally uh wheatley has a little uh commercial here we'd like everybody to see it the jingle and we'd like you to add something to it i'll tell you Wheatley's so good, I drink it neatly. Why should Moscow always get the mule? Vodka this good is an American mule. Wheatley's so good, I drink it neatly. Wheatley's so good, I drink it neatly. We like our guests to replace the word neatly. Wheatley's so good, I drink it... Wheatley's so good, I drink it yeetly. Yeah! Come on, dawg. Good game, good game, man. Hey, I don't know if you saw last night. I'm going to live in the shame of it, but I went to give Punk a fist pound. I've seen it. Bro. Bro. He was just like this. And I went, so instead of just bailing on it, I went like this. Like I gave him, I gave it to his own, like myself. Hey, bro. And he never looked at you.