Revealing the Packers 2026 March Madness Bracket!!!
47 min
•Mar 2, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
The Pack-A-Day podcast hosts reveal their March Madness-style bracket ranking the top 16 players from Brian Gutekunst's era with the Green Bay Packers, featuring Micah Parsons and Jordan Love as top seeds. The episode discusses the declining interest in the NFL Combine, special teams value, and analyzes notable omissions like Malik Willis and Rashaun Gary from the final bracket.
Insights
- The NFL Combine has lost cultural relevance due to decreased player/team participation and media focus shifting to self-promotion rather than on-field performance metrics
- Special teams excellence, particularly punting, is an underrated indicator of organizational quality and field position strategy
- Malik Willis represents one of Brian Gutekunst's best value acquisitions—a seventh-round pick who won critical games and could return a third-round compensatory pick
- Rashaun Gary's inconsistency despite high draft capital and salary represents the biggest disappointment of the Gutekunst era
- Comp pick management and draft capital efficiency are often overlooked aspects of GM evaluation compared to on-field results alone
Trends
NFL teams increasingly prioritizing pro days over Combine attendance, reducing Combine's relevance as a centralized evaluation eventGrowing fan appreciation for special teams contributors (punters, kickers) as analytics highlight their impact on field positionBackup quarterback value in playoff scenarios becoming more recognized by fan bases and organizationsYounger defensive players (Edrin Cooper, Javon Bullard) gaining fan recognition based on ceiling potential rather than proven productionCompensatory pick optimization becoming a competitive advantage in draft capital managementDefensive secondary depth becoming more valued in modern NFL roster constructionRunning back production volatility year-to-year affecting fan perception of player value
Topics
NFL Draft Strategy and EvaluationCompensatory Pick ManagementSpecial Teams ValuationNFL Combine Relevance DeclineBackup Quarterback ValueDefensive End ConsistencyWide Receiver Production MetricsLinebacker Draft Capital ROIOffensive Line DevelopmentSafety Position EvolutionPunter Impact on Field PositionFree Agency Value AssessmentDraft Capital EfficiencyPlayer Injury Impact on RankingsFan Voting vs. Expert Evaluation
People
Brian Gutekunst
Green Bay Packers General Manager whose 10-year tenure is evaluated through the bracket of top 16 players acquired
Micah Parsons
Defensive end ranked as #1 overall seed despite playing only 13-15 games for the Packers due to injury
Jordan Love
Quarterback ranked as #1 seed in second bracket quadrant, representing Gutekunst's most significant draft pick
Malik Willis
Backup quarterback who won critical games for Packers and expected to generate third-round compensatory pick in free ...
Christian Watson
Wide receiver ranked #2 seed, praised for blocking ability and opening opportunities despite early career criticism
Xavier McKinney
Safety ranked #1 seed in fourth bracket quadrant with nine interceptions in first season, all-pro selection
Romeo Dobbs
Wide receiver ranked as #3 seed, noted as most consistently productive receiver of Gutekunst era
Tucker Craft
Tight end ranked #1 seed in third bracket quadrant, attempting comeback from ACL injury
Josh Jacobs
Running back ranked #2 seed, led Packers to best rushing season since Ahman Green in first year
Rashaun Gary
Defensive end identified as biggest disappointment of Gutekunst era despite high draft position and salary
Jaire Alexander
Cornerback ranked #2 seed, representing Gutekunst's first draft pick
Preston Smith
Defensive end ranked #3 seed, one of first major free agent signings of Gutekunst era
Zach Tom
Offensive lineman ranked #2 seed, nearly earned third-team all-pro honors in 2024 season
Edrin Cooper
Linebacker ranked #3 seed based on ceiling potential despite only two seasons with team
Daniel Whelan
Punter ranked #4 seed, noted as PFF's top-ranked punter and critical to Packers' field position strategy
Jayden Reed
Wide receiver ranked #4 seed, expected to return from injury next season
Elton Jenkins
Offensive lineman ranked #3 seed, likely nearing end of Packers tenure
Evan Williams
Offensive lineman ranked #16 seed, noted as criminally low-seeded despite strong performance
Rich Eisen
Media personality whose 40-yard dash in suit 12 years ago marked beginning of Combine's decline in relevance
Aaron Jones
Running back who received one vote despite not technically qualifying from Gutekunst era, Vikings planning release
Quotes
"the beginning of the end for the combine was when rich eisen ran the 40 in his suit for the first time that was like 12 years ago"
Dan Continent•Early in episode
"it's him or jordan love so yeah i mean it's a it's uh it's almost it's literally almost like i put it in you know the the this might be a hot take the terrible kevin costner movie draft day"
Monty Moore•Mid-episode discussing Malik Willis value
"if malik willis goes somewhere and absolutely craters out does that affect that at all or or if he or maybe maybe more conversely if you're one of these these sicko packer fans that thinks that malik willis should have the starting job over jordan love"
Camille Davids•Late episode
"these are the kind of second level things you have to look at when you're grading a job that he does as a gm"
Dan Continent•Discussing comp pick management
"i'd much rather have a gm operating a team like this where you're fighting over the top 16 players of your almost 10 year career now instead of saying like how many more first round draft picks did we give up for deshaun watson"
Monty Moore•Closing segment
Full Transcript
20 minutes a day 365 days a year this is the pack a day podcast and welcome in everyone to another edition of the pack a day podcast thank you so much for joining us on another marvelous monday your marvelous monday crew all together again it's dan continent gets camille davids it's monty moore guys how are you doing how are we feeling the it's uh first i cannot believe we're already here in march which you know makes sense we're we're getting ready for our our little march madness discussion here if you missed last week's episode we'll decide we'll dive into it a little bit uh a little bit more but i mean we're we're literally here like two weeks away from the start of a new, technically the new NFL year NFL season it's like I don't know where everything goes it's like we're going to turn around and it'll be a new season here so I'm gripping with the passage of time here how have you guys been doing? uh pretty good i mean it's it's count it's been combine week right and i kind of have that same sentiment as you guys have probably seen on social media and people listening probably have too like it seems there was like no real buzz around the combine like between teams deciding not to go and players deciding like not to attend like it just it feels like i'm not going to say it's dying but the interest feels like it's dying it doesn't feel the same as it has in years past with combine news and even like people breaking the 40 record and the official record wasn't broken like the fastest 40 times just the interest overall it's kind of been a blip like yeah okay yeah it doesn't feel the same i i will say this this is a bit of a hot take that i'm going to say i'm going to say right now the beginning of the end for the combine was when rich eisen ran the 40 in his suit for the first time that was like 12 years ago though i i know like that i know i think i think and now i want to preface this he does it a lot now as a charity thing yeah which that's awesome there's there's nothing against that but it was the minute that media people started to make the combine about themselves yeah it is a big media networking event that's that that's mainly like what it is now is you see everyone posting like oh i'm at cnmo's fire i'm doing this you know like yeah like that's the combine it's like okay like we get it and like it because like every and it's Because the on-the-field stuff, the actual Combine stuff, has not kept up with the media hype that they keep putting around it. Because I think I saw 30% of people, eligible draftees, competed in the Combine or something like that. Yeah. Everyone's doing pro days now. Right. Yeah. That's the focus now. Yeah. Yeah. uh it yeah that and it kind of sucks it almost it almost feels like one of those weird things that you lost in covid you know yeah that's we we used we used to go in the office we used to care about the combine now yeah now it's now it's just all kind of kind of weird stuff yeah i like i'm just get me to the free agency get me through the get me through that first initial part um because that's when that's when i think things start to really take shape once you start to get those free agent things figured out then you can start actually thinking about drafts and mock drafts actually mean a little bit something yeah um so we are obviously trying to fill time um through through these through these couple of dead weeks before we get fully into draft coverage and everything and i thought last week a great idea would be to dive headfirst into the march madness of it all is because i think this weekend is conference championships um which means next week i think selection sunday is next weekend like a week from today a week from today yeah okay uh so obviously that means next week we get games or that next week two weeks from now we get whatever you understand what it is we're jumping into march madness um so we put out the word across social media and everything. Our bracket challenge this year, we want to look at the top 16 players from the Brian Gutekunst era. And qualifiers with that, drafted by Brian Gutekunst or brought in via trade or free agency. And we got a ton of responses. Shout out to y'all. Seriously. Yeah, about time you guys contributed. Start pulling your own weight around here. We had 55 individual responses. And there was no limit on how many people, how many players people could nominate. A lot of people did one or two. Did anyone do like the full 16? Several people. One person, I think, did like 10. Okay. Yeah. Shout out. there was and there was only and you and there was only like so it was like 280 some total votes yeah out of all that there was only one player who was not from the brian guttukunst era okay uh which was aaron jones okay okay yeah but that's also we talked about that last week that's a bit of a borderline and also with some news today from on sunday yeah the vikings are planning to release aaron jones maybe maybe in a couple weeks aaron jones becomes a player from the brian guttukunz era uh and then there was only i think like one or two very obvious gag votes of devin funches and martellus bennett what a pull there was no martellus bennett surprisingly okay jace sternberger did make the list okay yeah though ufl hero jace sternberger um so yeah so overall i mean we we took so we took the 16 top top vote getters some of them i think maybe maybe will surprise people some i mean i think the top ones as we reveal this will be very unsurprising but we talked about we talked about this last week we talked a little bit about before here of obviously when you talk about the brian could brian guttukunst era the top two players that are gonna like be at the at the very top of his legacy everybody it's jordan love and it's micah parsons yeah so it should be yeah definitely outside of the top two yeah outside of those two who is a player that you guys are saying for sure needs to be near the top of this list who um well mckinney oh absolutely sure right so he's probably three realistically um i'm just going off the top of my head like it's it's it's very interesting because this shows you how strong of a team the packers have right now because josh jacobs is probably in there like up pretty high right yeah and these are all within the last two seasons yeah um i wonder how i wonder how much love tucker craft gets in this list like yeah it's a newer on like it's newer but like i do wonder where he ends up ranking in that list yeah um if i could if i like we we haven't like full disclosure to people listening we haven't seen the bracket like yeah only dan has this yeah only dan has seen this if i had to guess the five the top five are going to be in no particular order love parsons mckinney craft and zach tom those would be my top five love parsons mckinney mckinney craft craft and tom tom okay i mean if you had to make a list of the five best players on the team sure that's probably your five right sure yeah probably i do wonder if i mean it was it's also short but like i wonder if either smith brother quote unquote yeah is a darius smith and preston smith was like that first real big free agent crop that came in for the bus z for those first like two seasons was amazing truly like a special player yeah and he was amazing and i think if he had not left the way that he did um whoever you know yeah whoever whoever's at fault with that it it's if he just played those years and then and then left i think he probably gets a little bit higher yeah on the list i agree um okay are you guys ready to to see your bracket let's get into it i'm ready so so what i've done is you know top 16 so the top four vote getters are your one seeds next for your twos threes and so there's four quadrants of the bracket so a one plays a four and a two plays a three in each little quadrant here. So here we go. So in your first quadrant here, the number one overall seed by two votes is a man who has only played 15, 14 games as a Green Bay Packer. He missed the last four and a half, right? Four and a half. He ended the season on a five-game losing streak. Okay, so 13 full games. It's Micah Parsons is the number one overall seed. He's going up in the first round against the number 16 seed. The very last one to make this cut, Evan Williams. Criminally low-seeded. You think so? You think? I mean, Evan Williams is really, really good. He is. I mean, like. But he's also very, very young. He just got here in 24. Right. He just finished year two. But, like, I guess I'm looking through this entire exercise in terms of, like, because, again, the team completely. There's no more players from before him on this roster. Evan Williams is like a next off the field player. like yeah he's he's on this team that's like 100 of the snaps as long as he's available to do it so like to have him be the the lowest seed that that feels crazy to me well i guess it depends on who else is continues to rank above him yeah and also that also a testament to how good the roster is right right or has been yeah yeah okay yeah uh so in this same quadrant of the bracket the parsons quadrant here uh your number two seed christian watson going up against uh somebody who is probably on his way to the end of his Brian Gutekunst era tenure and that's Elton Jenkins yeah another player that like had we done this a year ago would have been higher it's probably way higher right not only because his time seems like it's up but also it's been disappointing in terms of what have you done for me lately yeah yeah but Christian Watson yeah Watson over beating out jordan love is because oh sorry sorry right so when i say when i say the two seed in in this bracket okay so he so christian watson i think was like uh eighth overall okay that feels that feels right okay but i'm glad that he's getting his respect because for a while there early on there were some conversations around his game of like i don't think he's really all that good and he dropping the ball he can do all he is is fast without giving credit for the blocking ability without getting credit for like just how much he opens things up for his other teammates when he is on the field so i'm actually happy to see uh christian watson get that type of respect had we done this earlier he pie is lower oh if we if we do this last year oh two years ago i i'm not sure he even does he make the top 16th people were real down on him for a real long time so yeah shout out to him for completely turning it around for yeah so that's our first quadrant and michael parsons versus evan williams christian watson elton jenkins uh let's reveal the second part the second quadrant here and as we talked about obviously the number one seed in this quadrant is oh i tried i just tried to x out of the window that i have covering it on the stream yard screen instead of my actual actual screen i'm like clicking i'm like why isn't it clicking it's jordan love yep as the number one seed in this bracket and he's going up against another wide receiver jayden reed great great matchup but an obvious i mean this is yeah right very obvious but shout out to jayden reed shout out even after this season with the injury and whatnot like shout out because i he is someone who next season i'm very very interested uh in seeing him on the field again now here is an interesting matchup in the two and three spot in this section of the bracket here jair alexander versus preston smith two shutdown corners going up against each other well played well played um but i mean like you could argue it's his first pick his first draft pick and his first one of one of the first major free agent signings up against his first free agent class yeah yep yeah yeah um and and finally and a little bit more love on the defense here so i think like looking at it oh it is oh yeah it's 50 50 now yeah yeah we have we've we've four four offensive players four defensive players and they've all i i'll and i literally just realized this now all going up against each other in the first in the first round it's deep yeah it's interesting all these matchups are all these matchups play the same side of the ball yeah i i used i i literally just went like micah parsons number one seed everyone 60 seat and i went like like that yeah so interesting how that works okay so we have half of the bracket here we've got the two obvious number one seeds already taken care of here let's reveal our third number one seed and uh if i believe if i remember this side of the bracket it is another man who will be trying to attempt a miraculous comeback off of an acl this coming year along with another number one seed of micah parsons and it is tucker craft mr craft wow what a matchup for tucker and tucker craft to his credit gets daniel wheelan shout out to the punter man i was I get Daniel Leland, arguably the best partner in the league, right? He was the pro football focus, top rank punter. But I mean, come on. We know how this is going to go. What's the meme? Hydrogen bomb versus coughing baby or whatever. I do think it's interesting, though, that so many people decide. Like this wasn't just this wasn't this wasn't gags. This was people like I can, you know, I can see like, you know, the list it's people listing off all these other people. And Daniel Whelan is in the middle. Yeah. He's legitimately making these lists. Yeah. Because I think a lot of times too, punters are similar to kickers. They just don't get enough respect about how much they can change the game. But I think kickers get it more because you see those points instantly. Especially now that they're making 60 yarders. Exactly. Regularly now, which is crazy. But like a punter, people don't respect punters. but they play such a crucial part in the game plan by being able to flip the field where it's like, okay, Hey, this didn't work out, but Hey, at least this other team has to go 90 yards now. So we're making it easier for our defense. Like in football, we know it's a game of inches. So like, I don't get why punters don't tend to get more respect. So I'm glad to see that the pack a day fan base here, the listeners, they understand. I mean, I can like off the top of my head, like they don't, they probably don't win that Giants game without Daniel Whelan. Cause like he was in, he had an insane day punting the football that day. But I kind of feel like, like to Camille's point, punters don't matter unless you have one of the best in the league and the Packers have that. So it's like, or one of the worst. Yeah. He's going to get the recognition. And I, I think too, this, this is kind of a symptom of what I think some Packer fans are. might not be willing to admit is that the portion of special teams that the Packers actually commit to which is coverage and punting they're good at it they're really they're really good at they're one of the best in the league at and I think that goes back to just the that's that's the whole mindset of this team is it's all about field position and they're more worried about putting you in a worse spot and they're trusting their offense to be able to go and do whatever they want and so daniel wheelen um having the success that he has is a real symptom of how the packers have organized their their special teams the other matchup here josh jacobs sedarius smith the first offense first defense head-to-head matchup i i think this is the hardest one so far Yeah, I was going to say, I don't know how this one's going to play out, to be honest. If you remove recency bias from the equation. And any sort of personal. Yeah, I think this might be the toughest one. Because at this point, Jacobs has completed two seasons with the Packers. What was Zedarius Smith's? Did he make it three seasons, or did they release him after two? i think technically technically i think he made it through three but that last season was so that's the one where he had a back injury all yeah yeah so yeah so call it two seasons so they both have completed josh jacobs completed two seasons zadarius smith's first two seasons were as we said like very special this one's hard yeah this this is a tough one here i'm trying to look up real quick how many how many seasons zadarius yeah three seasons and that third that third one yeah two basically because that third one was basically was essentially a wash yeah two real seasons okay yeah and and then two it's like both come out of the gates hot super hot and then we He talked to Zedarius in his last season. Injury, what have you, doesn't perform as well. Josh Jacobs, great year last year, but not at all what it was the first year. And so now it's like, is there any wavering from Packer fans about what Josh Jacobs can do and how this offense? And a lot of that isn't even Josh Jacobs' fault. It was the offensive line. Yeah, well, I mean, so Jacobs, his first year, the Packers had their best rushing season since Amon Green. And then Z's first year, I'm pretty sure that's the first time anyone had had that many sacks since like Clay Matthews. Yeah, I know that was a career for Z for sure. Yeah, it's like it had been a while since we'd seen either performances like that from each of those guys. Their very first year in a Packers uniform, which like obviously immediately endears you to the fan base. yeah all right we've got 12 of our 16 your final four in here this has to be the mckinney bracket yeah camille is correct okay okay it is the xavier mckinney these matchups bracket yeah these are good. Xavier McKinney, your fourth number one seed, and he goes up against Romeo Dobbs. Now, there is an interesting one for matchup here because Xavier McKinney, only two seasons. the first season one of the one of the most shocking shockingly good nine interceptions yeah all pro all pro season last year production wise nowhere even close but another all pro another yeah right second team romeo dobbs on the other hand arguably over the over the course of the Brian Gutekunst era you could argue The most consistently Productive wide receiver Like Christian Watson. Ranks higher. Because he's. Because the. I think he ranks higher. Because there's more potential. He's the better player. When he's actually playing football. Romeo Dobbs though. I think you make a case. That he is the. best the the best overall wide receiver the best overall wide receiver career consistent at this point yeah of the of the guttekunst era yeah and i thought that romeo this season in particular like i don't know if it's because he was understanding where he was in his particular career thinking like hey this could be my last year in green bay but i noticed early on in this season like he was just showing so much more emotion than like the stoic romeo dobs we had seen in years past and he just seemed to have i mean like other wire receivers on this team the drops came every so often but for the most part romeo was just consistent with the hands throughout the year where it was like hey we're going to dobbs i feel pretty good about the chance of this pass being completed like yep mr guardian cap shout out to romeo dobbs mr guardian cap yeah um and so then our our our last matchup here at the bottom the two three zach tom and edrin cooper what do you guys make of edrin cooper here not only being on the list but being a three seed so he so he beat at least four other players in the vote yeah to get here i mean people you you saw the flashes last year yeah you saw it this year as well like i don't think the year finished for coop the way that people were hoping for it to but when you see the raw talent and you can see like hey this could be someone who's like all pro going for it we can see it i definitely understand falling in love with that potential but and also seeing the results that you've gotten so far and being like well he's already the best linebacker we have like and he's only in year two now like what can he continue to grow into which I think potential can also weigh in on this of like I think he still has more levels in his game to continue to reach so like we haven't even seen the best version of him yet so like it's respect for putting him on here I get it he'd be on my short list I think too of top 16. We'll be right back. I feel like this is an, this is arguably the most interesting matchup in terms of you're doing, you're kind of going more on what their ceilings can be. Right. Which is what they've shown. Cause like, again, Zach Tom has been phenomenal, right? I mean, it was not this past season, but the 2024 season, if there was a third team all pro, he would have won it. Right. Right. So he's been that good. he was very good again this year dealing with injuries all year so like this is not a in any way diminishing Zach Tom but like Camille said like Edron Cooper just kind of has that could he be like a top five linebacker in the league like that's a position where like this is this is kind of hyperbole but I think you guys will like understand where I'm going with it there aren't that many difference making linebackers in the league anymore right you're like oh obviously you you throw out like fred warner and guys like that like but unless you have a guy like that it's kind of like all linebackers kind of get lost in the shuffle he has the feel of that kind of player and that he can make that kind of difference so like he's he's going to be regarded very highly in terms of when you talk about like the best players on this roster yeah okay so there's your 16 player bracket going over it one more time on the left side, Micah Parsons going up against Evan Williams, Christian Watson versus Elton Jenkins. Below that we've got Tucker craft and Daniel Whelan. Poor Daniel Whelan. The little, yeah, I mean, he's great or whatever it is. Yeah. Josh Jacobs ends at Aries Smith on the, on the right side. You've got Jordan love versus Jaden Reed, Jerry Alexander versus Preston Smith. Below them, Xavier McKinney and Romeo Dobbs, and then Zach Tom versus Edron Cooper. Before we wrap up, I want to show you guys, reveal now the total list of vote getters. So you can kind of look through the list, tell me who you think got left off, who were some of the bubble teams that didn't quite make it. I think there's one in particular here that I'm very curious to get your guys' take on, if I can figure out how to make Google Sheets cooperate. It's absolute worse. Here we go. Okay. So starting here and down, are your outside looking in? so the the two players that were missed that missed the cutoff by a single vote razool douglas and adrian amos right there yeah good players but like more fan favorite than yeah yeah where like what you're talking about where these other guys sit like i wouldn't have i wouldn't have pushed back on either of those guys appearing but i don't know if i could make a case for either of those two over anyone other than the punter agreed right and even with that like seeing that those were the next two out honestly it's that third guy who was out who i'd be like drop the name drop the name camille who is it willis came in right after douglas and amos yeah listen with backup quarterbacks a tricky position because you don't want to necessarily ever have to see your backup in the game but when you do you don't want them to also be the reason you lose and every time malik willis had to step into play he was a reason the packers were able to find a way to win so i mean great great pickup by the packers getting malik willis in the building because he saved boy the last two seasons in various ways they they they without like unquestionably if Malik Willis isn't as good as he was in 2024 Packers don't even make the playoffs no yeah you're right because he won them two games arguably three because he came in for love in the Jacksonville game they don't make the playoffs in 2024 without him and maybe they don't either last year because he came in for a little bit against the Giants and let a touchdown drive and then came out of the game and the Packers won that game by what four I think yeah so yeah I mean in terms of what you gave up for what you got out of him and what you stand to gain because again we talked about before we started recording you're probably going to get a third round comp pick based on what he's expected to get in free agency yeah i mean that's probably brian gutekun's best move in terms of return on investment i don't think you could it's it's him or jordan love so yeah i mean it's a it's uh it's it's almost it's literally almost like i put it in you know the the this might be a hot take the terrible kevin costner movie draft day which people still watch every year because they're like i don't watch it watch yeah i watch it because i love kevin costner okay i love i have i love mr costner that movie is hot garbage it's so it's it is the absolute worst um but like that whole like the the whole you know the whole thing at the end where he's like he's like i want all my picks back and i want and i want this guy This is a draft day-esque sort of scenario where it's like, I'll give you a seventh rounder for this quarterback. I'm going to tournament. He's going to save my couple of seasons here. I'm going to flip him for a third rounder in a couple of years. And everybody else is like, okay. Like, okay, Brian. Sure. Yeah. Like, that's that kind of style. Like, that's a GM masterclass in Malik Willis. um rashaun gary getting four votes here also kind of surprised me because if if somebody those are all michigan fans they're all it's it's just jacob westendorf four times that's all it was um i mean that's just that kind of surprised me like if to get four of like i'm just kind of i'm i'm wondering like what has been his impact uh yeah you know like what's the overall impact been of rashaun gary is it really that much i think there's an argument to be made that based on draft position he's one of your more disappointing he's arguably the biggest bust in good in the kudu kudu's era it's it's like him i honestly it's like him well okay i don't know if i say there yeah he was he was really good that like 20 late 2020 through 2021 season stretch so like i'm not going to put him necessarily on this level but when you're talking about what you think of him now it's like josh jackson right where you're like oh lord you're so excited that the packers got this player yeah and he just was bad and like i think that's where gary is right now that's not where he's been the whole time but But if you ask Packers fans right now, who's like your most overrated player on the roster, he's probably going to be most people's pick because people are just ready to get rid of him. Yeah, I mean, with what he's paid to and the expectation of his role, like he hasn't lived up to the role at all. And with that, that's where this appointment comes in. Like we've seen him have great stretches. We haven't seen him put it together consistently for a season. And that's the biggest thing with Gary for me, where it's like, we can see the potential. But it just has not been able to be put out there consistently for an entire season. Even this year, playing next to Micah Parsons, where he got to a great start, and it was like, oh, this is exactly what Rashawn needed. He just needed not to be the number one guy. But nope. I remember I said, either on this show or when we did Ahead of the Pack together, I was like with Micah Parsons being on the roster now if Rashawn Gary doesn't finally have his first double digit sack season of his career the Packers should move on and like first three weeks he led the league in sacks I was like it's happening I was like he looks really good and then we know what happened after that so yeah yeah it's it's time so uh to just to round out the rest of the list here of all the vote getters We can kind of discuss any that kind of stand out here uh below rashaun below rashaun gary or tied with rashaun gary uh was quay walker with four everyone else on this list getting two or one vote it's rashid walker kishan nixon davante wyatt tremond williams shout out to whoever throw back hell yeah um matthew golden kind of surprising kenny clark javon bullard we talked about the jace sternberger and devon funchess of it all devondre campbell alan lazard and like we also mentioned aaron jones who doesn't actually qualify wait yeah doesn't kenny not qualify i was okay i was gonna ask about that i don't think kenny actually qualified he was he was the last ted thompson pick yeah on the roster okay so yeah so honestly javon bullard should have gotten a little bit more love on this exercise with how some of these younger players are getting like potential points it feels like for yeah i i would like i wouldn't have okay so you are you make a good point but now looking at who made it above him oh yeah he shouldn't have made it to the 16 at all but in this look of like the guys who missed the cut maybe you put him in front of like queshawn yeah like Keyshawn Nixon let's not forget was a two-time all-pro not for his work in the secondary but he right he was an all-pro yeah I think Bullard should be like in that range like around around the three votes like two two two three votes somewhere somewhere in there yeah the one that the one that sticks out to me there is Matthew Golden I mean that is a that's that's purely purely a potential yeah that's all the playoff game right he was other than jordan love he was probably the best player on the field in that playoff game for the day that's a potential point right there like we saw it this one time during this game i mean yeah it's you know this would be this would be an interesting exercise in another like five years from now oh absolutely to see where everybody where everybody remembers some of these guys because Malik Willis if here's the thing about Malik Willis if he doesn't if he goes somewhere and absolutely craters out does that affect that at all or or if he or maybe maybe more conversely if you're one of these these sicko Packer fans that thinks that Malik Willis should have the starting job over Jordan Love if Malik Willis goes out and balls out somewhere do you hold that against brian good but my he made the wrong decision but my question is do you care what they do when they leave the packers in terms of how you view this list like do you really care if next year rashaun gary goes somewhere else and is really good well see i think that i don't think you say like that was a great pick by goody well see i think i think that's that's why in that in that thought process with uh with uh malik willis if he does go somewhere and has a sam darnold-esque run or something does that look does that reflect negatively on brian gutta coots but i mean i don't think so because i don't think so either but there's there's a portion of the families out here that way look man there's him in particular you're never gonna flat and there's people that believe uh jordan love is not good yeah i'm not good at quarterback so because i i think like yeah him in particular no matter how good he does somewhere else no one reasonable thinks that he was going to have a chance to be this like to be the quarterback of the future versus jordan love and i think you're right some people will make that argument they will and i think too for me when we were having the discussion I'm just thinking about what they did in a Packers uniform and Packers uniform only. But I tell you what, regardless of if Malik is good or not when he leaves here, if he does help the Packers get a third round, like another pick, like then that kind of adds, I think, into the Malik Willis lore of like, yes, we were able to get Malik Willis kind of rehab the value. He played an important role while he was here. And then he went on and whether he does well or he doesn't, if he doesn't do well, then it's like, dang, that Green Bay system. like they know what they're doing with quarterbacks over there so it looks good on you if he goes somewhere else and he balls out it's also like well the Packers helped him get to that level and they also have this other pick who comes in attached to this too so I don't know I think for the Packers like it's ultimately a win-win but I do think there are going to be people pushing certain narratives around Malik Willis because they don't like Jordan Love so that's the only negative part about whatever happens after this yeah i mean i think i think it will be very curious to keep an eye on uh when you know when all the all the comp picks everything get get handed out and you get to draft day you get to that third round and we know that that comp pick is coming up it's like who is the who is the malik willis replacement i mean who's the who's the value of Malik Willis let's not gloss over the fact the Packers could realistically be getting two third round comp picks and a fourth because like if Malik Willis and Rasheed Walker both get what their market should be yeah in part to being a weak free agent class overall those are third round comp picks and those are both players you got for a seventh round pick yeah flipping those into a third and then like we talked about romeo getting a fourth after you spent a fourth on him like is that like one of the greatest comp pick returns in recent memory if that happens like that's crazy i mean i get i think we we did this as an experiment about brian guttukunst and people that want to that want to just look at the pure results on the field i can understand that but these are the kind of details where when you actually look at the job he does as a general manager of an nfl football team those are the little wins in the margins yeah that put you in this kind of spot you know those those are the kind of second level things you have to look at when you're grading a job that he does as a gm Now, again, like we said, those comp picks don't mean diddly unless you hit on them and do something with them, which, you know, that's the next part of it. But still, like Monty just laid it all out there. To be able to play that draft capital as well as they do in Green Bay, it's the sign of a really good organization. and regardless of how it kind of pans out on the field, I'd much rather have a GM operating a team like this, where you're fighting over the top 16 players of your almost 10 year career now, instead of saying like, how many more first round draft picks did we give up for Deshaun Watson or, you know, whatever, like could, could be a heck of a lot worse out there. So next week, So I think the idea, we'll put this bracket out on the socials everywhere like we did for the voting. Give people a chance to chime in. Let us know what you think. Because I think next week we'll be going through the whole bracket. We'll be deciding who moves on and how. But I really would love to hear from Packer fans, even if you didn't vote, obviously. I want to hear your thoughts on where everybody stacked up the potential matchups. Is there any possibility that this isn't Jordan love versus Micah Parsons in the finale? Okay. So I think we should eliminate them simply because I, just because I think it's too obvious, right? Like I think if you want to make this quote unquote surprising, to see who you're going to come up with like i i don't think there's any way it doesn't end up being one of those two even if they're not against each other in the finale one of those two is winning this bracket yeah but but honestly given what the parameters of the bracket are they should like yeah i think that's true i think the more interesting part to that point though is going to just be like the the final the final four for sure and seeing like the lower two brackets but even just like the final eight, like who are the last eight? Like once we cut this in half, who is still here? Okay. And I, and I think, I think too, part of it is the exercise of, you know, Duke is a powerhouse. You're probably going to run them all the way to the final four, but you kind of just want to see how they end up getting there. Yeah. You know? Yeah, that's true. Like I kind of like to have the discussion of like Micah Parsons versus a Christian Watson, Elton Jenkins type thing of like, you know, Is 13 games, you know, a big enough sample size to do that? You know, I think the discussions that we have along the way, those are the true friends, Monty, that we're going to make as we get to this. But so, yeah, we'll throw the bracket out there. We'll link it everywhere on the socials at Packet Podcast. All three of us on socials as well. We'll get this out there the next day or so here as well. You can follow me on blue sky at Dana, the man is where you can find me on social Camille Monty. Where can people find you? At Camille Monet, C-A-M-I-L-E-M-O-N-A-E on Twitter, Instagram and blue sky. And then a locked on bucks technical file. And yeah, pack a day. We're not going to talk about the bucks game from today. Oh my goodness. How do you only score eight points in an entire quarter? against the team that's trying to be bad that has lost 11 straight games yeah let's not gloss over the fact that the bulls are actively to suck at boss blowing a 27 point lead but anyway you can also find me on socials i'm on blue sky and on twitter at for jurgerson f-e-r-d-t-u-r-g-e-s-o-n perfect we will be back next monday uh with the culmination of our brian goody coons bracket until then as always stay safe and go pack go go pack go Outro Music