‘Another 48 Hrs’ With Bill Simmons Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

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This is our last rewatchables that is going to be on YouTube because the next one will be on Netflix on Monday. And we're going to do Zodiac. We're going to try to do, at least for the first couple of months, movies that are also on Netflix. So you can watch the movie on Netflix and then watch the pod. So we're doing the re-Zodiac next week. Yes, the re-Zodiac. I wasn't on the first one. You're not a Zodiac guy. I mean I like the movie It's a good movie It's very intense But it's very important to the Marvel Cinematic Universe Why's that? Because Zodiac is a part of The reestablishing of the career of Robert Downey Jr Oh yeah He's viable again And then you have Kiss Kiss Bang Bang in there somewhere He comes back kind of with like The Singing Detective, some movies like that But we talk about it all the time Whenever we have a conversation about him Try to think of somebody who Hollywood was out on or is out on right now That's how out they were on him And he worked his way back Well, Eddie Murphy in a different point Of his career in another 48 hours This is one for us week We did just one of the guys on Monday Another 48 hours, a movie that we've complained about And talked about forever, and it's next All right, so a couple months ago, you guys were actually in the pod. I talked about the sequel ideas that made me the maddest in the history of mankind. And number one on the list was Another 48 Hours, Keogh becoming the Iceman. And this is a movie that drives me crazy. And yet I feel like I've seen it 30 times. You know what? You feel the way about Another 48 Hours the way some people feel about the end of Game of Thrones. It's like you're such a keeper of the lore. Yeah. You understand the landscape of law enforcement and criminal underworld of San Francisco in the early 80s, as told by 48 Hours. And this movie betrayed you. This movie stabbed you right in the heart. And yet I keep watching over and over again because I like having my guys back. I wrote down it's a karaoke sequel, Van. Same music, similar opening. Two bar scenes. There's a hotel shootout. Jack Cate says, call for help now! Pips that off again. We have Eddie singing Roseanne We have Jack shooting at Reggie at the end Roxanne Roseanne I wrote Roseanne for some reason in my notes Roxanne Jack shooting Reggie at the end The letter switch ending and the busboys So it's basically like all the staples It feels like the same movie It's not as good And yet I always watch it when it's on Why? Well for me this was another sequel first movie I saw this one before I saw the second one It's always tough to go back When you see this one Not entirely sure I'm not the same way I can't remember But I may have seen another before 48 Because this came out in 1990 So that's conceivable you guys saw this first So when you go back and watch the first one After you've seen this one The first one seems like the fucking godfather It seems like a very serious I mean it does This one is a movie that's like It moves very fast It's pretty fun It's incredibly violent Like when you're 10 or 9 or 10 years old in the 80s like I was at this point, these are the kind of movies that you're watching. And Eddie Murphy is such a gigantic star that he can kind of, through gravity, pull a movie to its end. When you go back and watch the first one, it's not as oriented around him. The movie takes itself a lot more seriously. It's a completely different – it's funny, but it's a totally different movie. And he almost got fired on the first one after two weeks, and they couldn't really figure him out. He'd never been on a movie before. he didn't really know how to act and then they figured out how to use his improvisation by the time we do this he's he's the uh first guy listed in the movie it's built around him he's had seven number one hits in a row this was the last one that became number one opening weekend um and he's the biggest movie star we have and this is kind of when it ends here well yeah i mean i think that this movie is an interesting what if and an interesting kind of cross crossroads for him because we'll talk about how there is a lost version of this film. Yeah. And if this movie winds up having a more critically favorable reception and if it winds up doing better at the box office, I mean, it did pretty well at the box office, but if it has like a warmer reception, you wonder what is different about Murphy post another 48 hours. Can I ask a question like about what you guys think about this take? Whether or not this, this is, I can't think of another movie. This is kind of the end of the Eddie Sons. but you can argue that it's the beginning of the nolte sons like nolte is already pretty well established but like after this you go cape fear the prince of tides lorenzo's oil the player i'll do anything blue chips like he really goes on a run now yes yes these they're movies that we all love three through fugitives i love down and out in beverly hills might be my favorite nick notes what year was that that was like 88 down on beverly hills is 86 okay so i mean that's three years nick nolte is already a big star but he goes up to another level in terms of prestige in the next four or five or six years and it's interesting that they're kind of ships passing in the night one more time like in this film yeah and i think he cleaned up his act too right cr i mean definitely i definitely think that's because i remember the fit the famous siren live story where eddie hosted because nick nolte partied so hard that week he couldn't host the show he basically called in sick he looks a lot better in this movie than he did in the first one even said yeah i quit drinking yeah he didn't that any remarks he goes yeah what happened yeah you're right because he does yeah he didn't really have anything before this and you're right prince of tides was a big one for him that's a huge one i mean he became people's sexiest man alive blue chips was kind of where the wheels started to go back chips is where he kind of sort of four-year run for him blue chips i love trouble and then he takes a big swing with jesse jefferson and paris yeah and that kind of doesn't really work yeah it's also like the movie industry itself kind of turns towards guys like Nolte and you have these adult dramas and adult comedies that are he's capable of leading and I think that makes a big difference that's two-thirds of it the other third was the Julia Roberts movie that bombed sure I love trouble yeah it was like one of the most famous bombs of the 90s and they hated each other I think he started to get a reputation there's like a print soundtrack really bad I think that really set him back and he got passed by a bunch of white dudes that were younger than him and were grabbing the parts happens to the best but once people think that you're sexy once people think that you are kind of well oh he's got this grizzled sexiness to him that's when you go take your shot at the uh rom-com and if you're gonna take your shot with the rom-com at that point you're gonna take your shot with julia roberts maybe maybe it's a little early maybe meg ryan maybe somebody like that but you're gonna take that shot it didn't work for him because he can't pull that off it felt like in the 70s him and jeff bridges were vying to be like the biggest heartthrobs going forward and neither of them totally made it as that kind of actor yeah i think that uh bridges had had king kong nick knelt who was in rich man poor man and north house 40 and just felt like he was going to stop the rain it's not uncommon to see actors basically start out really hot they're like kind of heartthrob young and then there's like this middle period where they're just sort of like nobody's taking me seriously enough this happened to mcconaughey yeah recently enough right i think he felt like he was sort of trapped in rom-coms and adventure movies and it wasn't until dallas buyers club and true detective and he had to lose 50 pounds well yeah that happens after he's a rock star by the time interstellar comes around so interstellar is before or after dallas it all starts with dallas buyers club and he loses the weight and wins the oscar yeah and then that opens up all this other stuff less than as always if you lose 50 pounds and you could somehow still live and be in a decent movie great things are going to happen eddie murphy this is his seventh rewatchable which moves him into the official like the standings in the newspaper uh-huh he's tied with bruce willis arnold schwarzenegger leo douglas ethan hawk and renee russo ethan hawk renee russo renewing renee russo was seven it's just trailing costner hoffman julie roberts and hackman by one now underappreciated actors we gotta do nightcrawler soon so that we can get our numbers up i honestly wanted to beef up his stats beyond uh argue about this movie and all the behind the scenes stuff that i think's fascinating about it but i sent van the spin magazine article it was an interview with spike lee and eddie murphy there's another rolling stone article did i send that one to you no there's a rolling stone profile of him around then this is the most fascinating time for Eddie where he's as successful as he's ever going to be. He's as wealthy, you know, he's set for life. Yeah. He's minted. He's the biggest, it's him, Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan, and Mike Tyson are basically the four biggest celebrities, I think. And he's just miserable. And he, and it's, it's the classic, like everyone's against me. What do I do now? And it comes out in these two pieces and he talks about this movie and he says, um, he said this to spin magazine after the movie came out and he said the critical response to another 40 hours i thought the movie was all right and after doing a picture that was received both commercially and critically as fucked up as harlan knights was after doing a picture that was viewed as a shitty movie i should have done a movie that was great as opposed to a movie that was all right so he he kind of knows it didn't hit the way it hit and there's real reasons for that yeah but i I also feel like this happens sometimes with musicians, happens with athletes. We saw this happen to LeBron. Happened to A.J. Brown. One Super Bowl, he's like, I feel hollow. Might happen to Josh Allen right now. Oh, poor Josh Allen. I can't. Oh, poor baby. I'm doing great, but I can't win. Yeah. And it feels like you could feel it in that piece with Spike, right? This was one of the most angsty revealing pieces I've ever read on a celebrity. I cannot believe I've never read this before. Between him and Spike, there's three things happening. Number one, Eddie Murphy is dealing with being this gigantic star and the professional and social responsibility of that. Spike is there as sort of your straight man telling Eddie Murphy at different times what he thinks Eddie Murphy's responsibility should be, right? And he had also been critical publicly of him before that. Spike has been critical of almost everyone. Yeah, but especially in 89. He was like, why doesn't Eddie use his power? Why doesn't Eddie use his power? Like Eddie, shouldn't you be getting more people hired at studios and stuff like that? And Eddie is talking about the fact that there's just a tremendous amount of weight on him as a star. Like fuck being as the biggest black star in the town. Sure. Just as a star, as an entity. There's business. There's expectation. There are deals. And he's talking about family that want money. He's talking about the fact that there's this and then there's this whole other part of it that stars do not have to deal with. with like white stars right and at the end of it he's like you know i just want to be an entertainer i just want to be able to entertain spike asked him why you got pictures of elvis everywhere like what's wrong what's up with you and like listening to him talk about it i understand way better now while why eddie kind of went to the wilderness in the early 90s well it's also interesting to think about in terms of like why he's never really come back you know what i mean like he never really did the stand-up tour the stand-up comeback tour never did stand up again which at this point probably at various moments over the last couple of like 10 years or so could he have played so fi like i i don't know like eddie murphy could sell out any building in the world not enough seats in in the world for him to step on stage and people not to come right and so he and like has kind of decided to sort of go into a light i wouldn't call it retirement but he's basically doing like easy layup movies for streamers and started a long time ago yeah that that's been the 30 years of that and yeah and yeah dr doodle he's probably been doing that for way longer than he was the man yeah because the edge that he had the way that eddie made you laugh like very few people well which is why it was interesting to see him chase the oscar at times when he did Dreamgirls or even coming back with Dolomite and trying to like genie that up there was just very few performers that could do what he could do that had that type of on screen charisma could make you laugh like that but then also could dial it back and control the scene and it weighed on him when you read this he talks about the fact I don't even remember that Coming to America wasn't critically well received it's amongst the best comedies in the entire decade I didn't know how true that was He probably read a couple reviews It's funny because he was like Probably in my top three all time favorites And I never knew how angry he was In the late 80s And now you look back and like He goes in the Oscars And the 1989 Oscars And talks about how The representation was so bad With nominations the whole thing And everybody's like what the fuck did he do that for What's up with him What's up his ass It was kind of the response to it So he does that he does this rolling stones thing same thing and then this and all of it is about this too basically too much was on my plate too much was thrown at me i thought this would feel better i thought being this successful would actually be fun it's not and basically he's trapped in this little circle with like six people around him he's not around people every day he doesn't trust anyone he said women try to sue him he had the art buck wild claim that he's still coming to america from him and he's just bitter at everybody and i think that makes sense when you see the movies they ended up doing the 90s where eventually he just retreats and does like many professor and easy stuff where he can just play characters and kind of low ceiling stuff when you close your eyes and you think of eddie murphy and you think of like the the best moment of eddie murphy what is the the character or the movie that comes to mind uh prince of king from coming to america I think Eddie would say that I think I probably enjoyed the Beverly Hills Cop 1 Eddie the most Because it just felt like he was 22 And it just felt like This was going to be the guy Like for years and decades And the guy could do anything I probably agree with you I probably feel like at 48 hours It's like seeing like It's like seeing Caleb Williams Throw passes where you're just like I can't believe this Like I can't believe this guy can pull this off And it's kind of interesting to watch another 48 hours in that lens, through that lens, and see, like, the brief flashes. Totally. Of when it comes back. Like when he's calling the guys for the money. On the payphone. On the payphone. It's like, this should have been in the movie. What are you guys doing? But even the, what am I going to tell you? He hates cops. That right there, that's Eddie Murphy. He's fucking with this guy the whole time, and you think that he is going to end up getting Cates a ticket. But really the joke is on the cop And he tells him and the cop's too scared So look When you look at the early 90s We've done Boomerang But if you look at Distinguished Gentleman And some of those other movies And then the abomination that is Beverly Hills Cop 3 That movie is almost Is that the one with the theme park? Yeah And by the way in one of the interviews he's talking about I would never do Beverly Hills Cop 3 He's like they want to just throw money at me I'm never going to sell out like that And then five years later he sold out yeah boomerang is to me like a perfect film that was the first eddie one we did together right yeah but like even in that one you could tell he's trying to be different he's the straight man in that movie he wants to be carrie grant wants to be carrie grant he wants to be taken seriously i think it's like a thing that happens to a lot of people who get famous for doing a particular thing and then it's like eddie murphy also wanted to be a musician and eddie murphy wanted to be a viable action star and eddie murphy wanted to be you know what i mean and it's like everybody was And he wanted to be a singer. Yeah, he wanted to be a pin-up, like old Hollywood star. He wanted to be Elvis. Yeah. It's a tough one because I do think he was among the most talented people of the last 40-plus years. He was the most overqualified SNL person they've ever had. And Will Ferrell's probably second. Everything went right for him for, I would say, seven years with his movie career, right? And by the time Coming to America comes out, he's still like 28. He's not even really an adult yet. He's only six years older than Drake May. But he says in this spin thing, and this is after Tyson lost to Douglas in Japan, which is an interesting parallel to Eddie because Tyson had the same meteoric rise. So he says, what happened to Mike Tyson? You get so big, people don't understand what happened. How can this motherfucker never lose with Mike when he lost and became human? In retrospect, I think doing something like the last two films I've done, maybe it's good that it makes you lose a step. The pressure's off. You'd be this perfect motherfucker. And then he talks about his career and he says, I was probably getting comfortable with my position. I'd appreciate the position I was in. I went through a thing. I had seven pictures, back to back pictures. Nobody had done that. So he was like acutely aware of like. Nobody's done what I'm doing right now. Yeah. And he couldn't sustain it. But I think part of the reason you can't sustain it is you just stop. When you become that famous, you're just not a normal person anymore. Yeah. And also if you're a musician, actor, athlete, whoever. I also wonder whether with his style of comedy and when you watch him on SNL and when you watch him in those early movies. Yeah. You feel like you're like, there's no safety net. I'm floating and we're floating with this guy. Like anything can happen. And so once you kind of like grow past that point where you're connected to the things that made you who you were in the first place, I wonder if for specifically for standups, if it starts to become a little bit like if you're not Seinfeld and making like quotidian observations about everyday life that everybody has, if you're Eddie Murphy and everything is energy and everything is channeling a certain sensibility, I wonder if you can sustain that. I don't think you can as a stand-up But I definitely don't think you can as a stand-up Who is also a gigantic movie star Yeah Nobody's ever done it There are stand-ups that get into their 50s When they are primarily known for that And they're able to like Pull the energy of their Cultural observations Like you know split them over Three or four different specials over four or five years Right but Man when you were watching Eddie Murphy in a movie like Beverly Hills Cop he is the comedy in the film i mean don't get me wrong there are other people that are funny other funny things that happen but every single scene is an incredibly heavy lift it's a real heavy lift eddie's doing characters eddie's being suave and he's being kind of like a rascal like all that he's doing that in every film and it comes to a head and come into america he talks about it in that piece where there's legitimately a scene where he's playing four different characters yeah he's playing off of himself that's how insulated he's and he's mad that one of the reviewers said he was lazy in the movie he's like i literally played everybody for five minutes right um and then he changes he wants to do less and for four or five years we don't even notice like we we notice that the movies weren't the same but we don't notice that eddie murphy isn't eddie murphy interesting i was curious what you would say about a parallel career like robin williams Now, Robin Williams probably never as famous as Eddie Murphy was at the beginning of his career, right? Like he does Mork and Mindy. I would say Mork and Mindy was a bigger show than Saturday Night Live at that point. I think the audience was bigger for it. But were people like Robin Williams is like... They didn't know his comedy as much. He went right to movies and was immediately trying to be a movie guy. And pretty quickly within the movies started doing serious roles. Right. He moved to... Like World of Carton and Garp was probably the first one. I think the thing with Eddie, he's doing three things at the same time. He's saving SNL by himself, where he's also one of the only black stars. We talked about this in past pods. He's one of the only black stars on TV in the early 80s. So he's got the whole burden of that. He's replacing Richard Pryor as the guy as a stand-up, right? And Pryor's self-combusting, and he blows himself up. What was he doing when he blew himself up? What was he smoking? It wasn't crack. It was freebasing. Was he freebasing? but he blows himself up he's a stopped fat to be like what is the thing that you guys smoke when you burn yourselves up shut up the Rockefeller laws what happened here but he's also older so Eddie takes that spot but then he also takes the number one comedy movie actor spot all these things happen in three years any person would be happy with one of those three things. Chris Rock only was able to do one of those three things and we're like, Chris Rock, what a career. The generational comic. Chappelle. It's like Chappelle, oh my god, generational. Eddie, that was one of the three things he did. And I think that's just a lot. Yeah, and it's also just like Eddie Murphy never had a Good Morning Vietnam where you translate your stand-up or your comic skills perfectly into a dramatic role. But Good Morning Vietnam was nowhere near as big of a movie as the least popular Eddie Murphy movie of the 80s. Yeah, this movie made $150 million. And it's reviled. It was considered to be disappointing. 19 on Rotten Tomatoes. That's crazy. It's not that bad. 19. This movie's good. I like it. I like it. Hold on. He speaks to this in the piece, though. Yeah. He talks about the fact because, you know, Robin Williams worked with our tours and different directors and stuff like that. And he talks about the fact that he didn't and really couldn't do that. He was like he's talking to Spike Lee And by the way they promise to work together In this piece they never do It never happens It's so funny they spend like They're like yeah yeah when we were in Never not even like a tiny role And what he's essentially talking about is How the The seriousness of Spike Lee And who Spike Lee was as a black director At that time The responsibility That Spike has And the responsibility that Eddie has as being the guy that everybody likes and it seemed like he was saying that he couldn't do stuff like what robin williams was doing he couldn't take those chances that wasn't what they wanted from him he's like they sent in workman directors in to do some of these movies and i'll do those movies with them but like as far as me working with like really important directors and that stuff like that it's like that's not what i'm doing that's kind of not what they want me to do they want me to do eddie murphy pictures yeah you're right there's like a burden i almost wonder like because he does the oscars thing in 89 right and that's this renaissance for you have spike you have robert townsend the wayans brothers are coming in and that and there's this whole generational thing hip-hop's coming in there's this whole generational thing shifting and you could almost feel like eddie felt like he what he was over here in the mass market area sure of like belonging to everybody and was kind of but i still should be over here too and that's why he's speaking out there in these two years and then it's over and then he has the the thing with the with the picking up the prostitute in in 1995 sure after that he he stops doing interviews i mean he's he basically disappears after that and you only like some promotion for movies and that's it you'll get every once in a while a little story of like eddie murphy quentin tarantino something you know yeah whether it was i think tarantino was like he was thinking about eddie murphy for pulp fiction or something like that but then there's been a more recent story of all the good directors quentin had fascinated by him quentin had like a beverly hills cop pitch that eddie murphy was like that's actually pretty good you know he becomes i think was in on him too trying to get him he becomes that guy because like those directors obviously grew up on him yeah but also it's like there was so much that he could do yeah and i bet that people looked at him And was like yo This guy is better than the Haunted Mansion This is Eddie Murphy He's better than the Haunted Mansion Didn't you feel that way with Distinguished Gentleman I remember leaving the theater and being like god damn it It a stupid movie God damn it how did we get to this point There are interesting films in there Like you know Boomerang is interesting because he goes all black cast for Boomerang That's the best thing he did that decade. Absolutely. But then, like, there's Bowfinger, which is an interesting movie. Really like Bowfinger. It's an interesting movie. It's a funny movie. That's Eddie trying to kind of. He tries to do Metro. Doesn't quite work. Doesn't quite work. Doesn't quite work. And then he never does the thing. He never, and not until Dreamgirls. He doesn't have the goodwill hunting moment. he doesn't have sort of the Jim Carrey do you think could he have done training day no could he have done he got game no I don't think you saw him shoot the basketball in this movie he could have done Truman Show could have done Truman Show I think so this is going to sound really stupid but something like Castaway like there's an element of like oh wow would you watch Eddie Murphy on his own on an island For an hour and a half I would Now would it have the same gravitas What would happen in that film I don't know But like It is a really sad Thing to look back Can we just do that I'm thinking about most roles that Hanks played You know He didn't sleep us in Seattle Maybe Maybe he could have done like He could have done big though He could have also done like Not only their own But think about Philadelphia where Hanks is in the Denzel Washington part. Oh. And Eddie is in the Tom Hanks part. That would have fucked people's head up. What's your Eddie relationship, Craig? You're like two generations removed. Unfortunately, I think the relationship with Eddie is that I knew he was famous first before I had a relationship with a specific movie. I mean, to be honest, he made like Dr. Doolittle. Yeah. That's probably like the first thing I saw. That's like most people under 35. it's pretty remarkable that for a guy as talented as him who was the biggest star in the world his career does still feel like a missed opportunity a little bit it's like it's like aaron rogers only having one ring you're like that's he was the most talented quarterback i've ever seen and he only has one ring he should have won at least one but like if i there's there's part of me that is still like if eddie murphy started a podcast tomorrow it would be like the biggest podcast in the world do you know what i mean like there's there's like would you see the documentary? I did. It was interesting because it was all the good and bad of where it is now where it was a very safe, controlled documentary that was afraid to really go anywhere. But I was completely riveted the whole time. And he's a good raconteur. And I loved it. And he told great stories and I had a great time. And you still want to love him whenever you see him. You know something else that happened now that I think about it is Hollywood really split Eddie into like thirds in the 90s. Yeah. Like they took the charm of Eddie and then that was Will Smith. Like almost anything that Will Smith was doing, you could have imagined Eddie doing. They took the straight up. Like bad boys would have been Eddie 10 years earlier. Men in black, right? You know what I mean? He had to play a little bit younger than him, but still. And then they took like Rush Hour. Like they wanted Eddie to be in Rush Hour. Like that was supposed to be Eddie Murphy. But Chris Tucker was like occupying that space for a little while. But in the 80s, there was one guy at the top who could do all of that stuff that those guys can do. Like when you split them apart. Well, yeah, he never was in Independence Day or Armageddon, any of those type of movies, because he was kind of too famous to be one of the seven guys. You get trapped. You're like your own franchise. Some of those movies started to do a little bit of money ball, where it's like, well, we'll get John Malkovich to be the bad guy in Con Air, because his price point's probably not going to be as high as Eddie Murphy or something like that. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, in this movie, in 48 Hours 1, he was paid $200,000. In this one, he was paid $12 million plus points. He actually came up with the story And used the pseudonym for it Talked Nolte into it Nolte called Walter Hill The director who we'll talk about in a second And uh He said what do you think Walt And then Nick said if we do one and it stinks We're still batting 500 That's funny But he said it and then Nick Nolte was If we do one and it stinks Not a bad life lesson Yeah and Walter Hill said a lot of folks will say I'm just doing it for the money what I want to know is what I think why do I think they made the first one so the most interesting thing about this movie is something we'll talk about right after the break alright so we mentioned this is a complicated rewatchables because it's rewatchable but it is among the movies that made me the maddest and I didn't fully realize until we did the research CR that this should have been a two and a half hour long movie that that got cut to 120. And then a week before the release, Paramount panicked because Total Recall had done really well and was short. And they said, we got to get this down to 95. And they just fucking brought the chainsaw out and chopped it. And this is the reason the plot is so nonsensical. And it's like, wait, how do they know? And that's why. Because they just took out scenes that would have explained shit. They definitely chopped this thing to shit. I am a little curious how None of that has ever gotten on Any DVD or on YouTube Or there's never been like 25 minutes is like Six scenes yes I mean the The conceit of the movie 48 Hours that ended up On the cutting room floor as well yes The idea that Jack has a deadline To find the Iceman totally cut out He said he and it's in one of the trailers He tells Reggie I only have 48 hours we got to find the Iceman or I'm going to jail and Just gone Apparently Cruz, Keo's buddy in this Has a whole arc that's gone And the guy who played Keo Explains the whole thing And He said he lost every major scene he had It felt like getting kicked in the stomach I was the third lead I looked like a Dressed extra There's no mention of 48 hours In the film anywhere and This is just how it went So when I read that quote from Brian James about playing Keough, right? Yeah. I thought to some extent they may have made that decision to maintain the twist of who Iceman is. And that's why they cut his stuff out. I mean, it's not even a twist. It would be like right now if Van was like, I'm the Iceman. It's like, what? i've been writing jd fans this tweet no it worked on me when i was a kid though oh i didn't care at all when i was a kid this is also you guys got to understand this is an era where i we didn't really pay that much attention like tango and cash get set up yeah in two scenes they put it all together they go to jail like whole trial happens they go to jail and like we're just rocking and rolling yeah i mean You know what the movie's about? The problem for me is I was a sophomore in college and 48 Hours was my favorite movie. And they do another 48 Hours and it's like, Kiyo is the Iceman. It's like, no! You fucked out with when I watched the first movie and he's helping Jack with Reggie. Why would he help him if he was the Iceman? Why would he help him in any way, shape, or form? Maybe one of the scenes that got cut is the Iceman's late arriving. It's only after 48 Hours that he becomes the Iceman. No, but that's not true because Reggie's like Remember that money we took? $25,000? Took that off the Iceman, the guy who bought your car So that makes you the dumbest motherfucker So Iceman had to be going in 1980 Is this Eddie Murphy's idea? If he does the story? Maybe it made sense with the extra 45 minutes I think that it's more of a movie movie In terms of the plot making sense And all of that stuff With the extra time in it But it probably is lesser, honestly. Yeah. It probably... I don't know. This movie might be heat. We'll never know. This movie... Well, you joke, but we haven't, like, said why we like this movie yet. This movie is still a Walter Hill movie shot by Matthew Lianetti. It looks fucking awesome. This movie is such a great hang-up. It still has the banger James Horner score. I have it, like, oddly well-directed. Real sense of tension and danger in these scenes. Great villains Totally fucking crazy guys That you are actually scared of That represent danger whenever they're around And it moves so quickly I don't know how If it would move that same way If we had more time with all of these characters The opening scene It's filmed like it's a fucking Oscar winner I have that in a category coming up It's really good Walter Hill, this was his last hurrah After this he had Trespassed Geronimo, Wild Bill Last Man Standing. CR and I Trespass, Geronimo, and Wild Bill all have things to recommend about them. I like those movies. Well, I'm just saying none of them did well. Yeah. Trespass, I really like. Trespass, a treasure hunt in the hood. How have they not done that again? Trespass, I love that movie. It bombed. It did. Not in my high school. It's funny. Were you guys big on Judgment Night in your high school? Yeah, but like Trespass was like the idea of trespass we were like this is the best idea i've ever loved trespass i went and found the 1990 premiere magazines to see if they did another 48 hours and they only had a summer movie preview and they were doing predictions and they called walter walter over the hill oh that's what he got in another 48 hours fuck that um cr and i met him the running man screening he was sitting right behind us and we were probably like 20 too excited uh we were like first marley in snl like oh and then when you did this yeah remember remember uh the warriors i was like mr hill i'm a huge fan of extreme prejudice yeah i think he was uh flatter yeah sure yeah but yeah so he did warriors in 48 hours after that it doesn't really matter does it you come up with those two what what i mean long riders southern comfort i mean he's done so many good movies Warriors though stands the test of time As much as any movie man We're bringing that back because when we did it the first time in the rewatchables We didn't have a lot of the categories The Re-Warrior? Shea didn't really like it That was one of the only times I forgot to make sure How could that be possible? Shea was like fine with it I thought he loved it for some reason That is the most Shea Serrano coded movie Maybe ever I was stunned I just assumed that he loved it And he was like lukewarm on it So CR and I had to carry it I think he enjoyed our enthusiasm for sure what a great movie amazing what did I say it was 89 minutes the rare sub 90 I mean it might be for batting average slash advanced metrics pound for pound per minute the greatest action movie ever it's a piece of culture They create an entire universe Yeah it becomes more It's like a weird Drugged out postmodern Treatise on The crime written New York of the 1970s And gangs and all of that It's like a beautifully fucked up Dystopian novel almost It is remarkable they did that in 90 minutes It's also like we still in 2025, 2026 are like Oh that's like the Warriors that's the Warriors it's still a touch you know what's amazing about the Warriors they never fucked with it nobody was like we're remaking the Warriors there would have actually been riots in the street if they tried to remake that movie it's almost like remaking the Godfather or some of these movies nobody would ever have touched the Warriors is like that and you would think they would have remade that four times already but stayed away a bunch of that guys in this movie we mentioned Brian James Kevin Tagge from the Christmas Adventurers in Van's favorite film. Owned the double deuce. Needed some help. He was a good... He needed to find the best cooler in the South. He was the good guy in that one, but he's got such a smirky, fucked up face that when you see him in other shit, you're like, there's the guy that you're not supposed to. It's funny because he was in Emergency, which was one of my first favorite TV shows in the 70s, and he was just like a Noah Wiley type of 70s good guy. Should we address the fact that Neil Fisher emailed our email inbox to explain the last shot of Roadhouse to us. Oh, yeah. What was that? I don't remember that. Big fan of the pod. Been listening since the beginning. Loved the mailbag episode. And when I heard you mention Roadhouse and you looking for an answer to a question, my ears perked up. I'm a filmmaker and author from Chicago. My first book was released in 2021. It was about Swayze. While writing it, I was in contact with a bunch of Swayze collaborators like his widow Lisa and I became with Roadhouse alums Marshall Teague Yeah and director Rowdy Harrington I asked Rowdy if The skinny dipping scene was shot To be used in the middle of the movie since Cody Is there or if it's something else Rowdy says that always Was meant to be the end of the movie and he loves The final song when the night comes Falling from the sky Hope that helps I got this mailbag Question about how the blind guy was just In the skinny dipping scene And it was like did they skinny dip in front Because they couldn't see But it's like a little easter egg There's one more of that guy We gotta talk about Andrew Diboff who plays Gaines' brother Also the bad guy in Toy Soldiers The movie we did a couple years ago On the rewatchables me and Kyle Brandt And that's really it for him No no no no He also was Wasn't he in Okay so we're talking about the guy with the long hair Yeah like a low down dirty shame oh remember a low down early 90s run for him low down dirty shame he plays i remember he says uh he's trying to get under shane's shane's uh skin yeah about the beautiful top tier gorgeous uh sally whitfield um oh yeah oh my god shout out to yes andre man but like he's he's talking about her and he just looks at shame he goes yes you know she loved it to fuck That's what he goes by He goes Because he's trying to get under his skin Because that's his girl Yeah And he's like He's going out He's like yes She loved to fuck And I was like God damn Tell somebody Your ex Hey I'm with your girl now Just to let you know She loved to fuck It's a scene in Low Down Dirty Shame He's in the movie Horlbeck scale The Century Club For Craig 100 minutes is That's the curve One way or the other We're at 95 minutes here Craig we're plus five I know plus five perfect length he didn't we could have had like a 140 minute movie he was psyched for the other he could have given me five more minutes or something like that but this is right in the sweet spot okay necessarily 50 million dollar budget made 153.5 million Roger Ebert two stars yeah I can't I can't can't fight back on this yeah he said you know how sometimes in a dream you'll see these familiar scenes and faces floating in and out of focus and you're not sure they'll connect another 48 hours is a movie that feels the same way broad outlines villains cops all basic movie stereotypes what exactly is happening here if it does nothing else another 48 hours reminds us that murphy is a big genuine talent now it's time for him to make a good movie god damn he challenged him i mean i would i would say he does boring is a great movie yeah uh watch party out of all the possible i had it was five o'clocker for me it's a maybe it's maybe a top five five o'clocker yeah it's exactly what you would want you would go perfect back in the day maybe you get three trailers to say five o'clock movie starts around 5 15 5 20 you're home in time for dinner home for dinner yeah it's maybe a 455 start movie kicks in or 508 you get out you're out of there early enough for young bill simmons to take you out and tell you all the problems with iceman continuity you know that would happen I would have been like can we go get a Dunkin Donuts I gotta explain How dumb this Keough thing is Can we get an iced coffee Most rewatchable scene My first one isn't until 26 minutes Into the movie I like the opening I just have so many questions about it Like who goes to that bar Like who frequents that bar In the middle of the desert For bikers or something like that Is there a desert in... Where do you think that... Is there a desert in Northern California? I mean, probably, but not super close to San Francisco. I mean, you could be up heading towards Napa, I suppose. With like those types of doing... Where's Lompoc or where's like some of their... I don't know. It's almost like a fever dream, that scene. That poor bartender. Poor bartender gets killed. Two cops... Well, you're into the movie. Five minutes. Two cops gone. Old timer bartender Out of here Old timer bartender probably bulletproof vest To work every day I would say Can he go two days Without getting more than one customer sometimes That's a pretty far flung Bar Yeah especially I'm guessing it wasn't like $15 for a Jack and Coke No it probably wasn't Jack gets attacked by the bikers And then Reggie's bus Gets attacked simultaneously that's a fantastic action scene this is 26 minutes in this movie all of a sudden takes off we get to hear Reggie sing James Brown I wrote this down this has happened a few times in movies most famously in Fast 4 at the end prison transport buses getting attacked I also like it whenever anyone carrying prisoners under attack he's trying to communicate with the prison transport bus like in rebel ridge yeah oh rebel ridge a good one yeah next to his cousin he's like stay up i'm trying to think when that hasn't worked and then if you're the prisoner and you're being transported in real life deep down you're probably hoping wait does this not happen in both u.s marshals and the fugitive as well no it's a plane crash u.s marshals plane crash yeah the fugitive fugitive is the is the just a straight bus crash yeah plus crash yeah yeah it's not attack that 4 is an intentional attack. Right. To free Vin Diesel. I expand on this and say that anytime the prison transport mechanism is in peril, it's a good scene. Yeah. Also, the same guy is driving the bus in every scene, no matter what movie it is. It's like the little bit of a fat guy looks like he's from Chicago and he's got a mustache. It would have been cool if there was more of a budget, if Shot Caller had more of a budget. For a prison transport? If he could have gotten a transport going. yeah shocker shocker so shocker i so i i had never seen shocker right until we did rewatch well i can't remember i think i had you to see it so like i'm i'm looking at that and i'm just not gonna watch jamie lannister as a hard ass i'm just not looking at it i'm not gonna watch am i looking at that and then i watched shocker and what the fuck man shocker is way better than it had any business be yeah it's kind of what i wanted from rip the rip yeah for it to be a little well shot caller is way smarter than the rip is the rip is a fucking dumb movie it's a it's good all right that's a stupid movie bro why it's just like come on bro like the even them that's a it's a five cent twist at the end of the movie it's like that i enjoyed the rip i really did i enjoyed the rip yeah but it said i enjoyed the rip i did right it was worth the time my review to cr was that the rip probably needed worse actors it probably should it probably should have had the den of thieves level actor yeah in that movie then you would have felt like hey i got more than i bargained for but if you're looking at the two motherfuckers from goodwill hunting you're expecting slightly i'm expecting heat when i see those guys and it was not heat right it was more than that really well done Den of Thieves Camp. But Shot Caller, when I was watching it, that seemed like some made-for-cable type shit. Nah, the movie took itself very seriously. I didn't see what was coming at the end. It's like a legitimately good movie. I think he still was probably miscast. You probably could have got people to take that movie more seriously if you had cast somebody else in the lead, but... Disagree. Sick. I thought he was awesome. The movie's good. I think you just took too much Jamie Lannister baggage into it. I probably still. I didn't say it was a bad movie. What I'm saying is to get more people into that film, if it had been somebody different. I just think they botched the release. I didn't even see it for three years. I didn't even know it was out. Yeah. Let's write a movie where a prison transport bus gets attacked. I don't know what happens the rest of the movie, but that's just how it starts. Oh, I can tell you something. How about this? This will get made. This will get made. Ringer Films. Ringer Films. Get your own on. Prison transport bus gets attacked by fucking vampires. Okay? This movie gets made Vampires They're fucking They've woken up from their slumber They're hungry Dust before transport Dust before transport These are hungry vamps They're on the fucking prop Craig's in on this Prison bus They smell it But they don't realize That they fuck with the wrong bus Baby These guys can handle themselves I'm telling you Could we do I wonder He didn't greenlight my shit Well I'm still thinking about it I need a greenlight Does that be a prison transport Or could it be like any bus? No Like a Greyhound? No like the Sixers are taking a bus from Philly to MSG And the bus is under attack Tyrese Maxey has to save the day Against vampires And B goes down at the first touch of a bus And B gets into the movie No and B becomes a vampire And it gets to him And you know how we know that the vampires have gotten him beat? Because all of a sudden He's playing and he's not getting hurt He's moving around He's just a vampire walking around in sketchers I noticed you haven't really commented on his revival Is it a revival? I think he's playing quite well Once Bill gets a take, he doesn't ever go back on his face How long has he been playing well? Like three weeks? Yeah, about the time the Celtics have been good Great Next scene, Reggie and Jack get the hospital into Reggie's car blowing up Which includes Eddie just ripping off lines like, oh great, I get to spend My first day out with Arthur goddamn redneck Fucking hilarious I'm broke I've been shot at I was in a bus that flipped 17 times That's the trailer That's the trailer They blew my car Is this when he goes that's it I'm calling some of my fucking homies I'm getting a loan All of a sudden this is the best movie you've ever seen And then when he's calling The different people for the money And they was like no no I was there when you beat the bitch up He's like yeah You become a Christian I was there when you beat the bitch up All of this stuff Talk about how bad the movie is Maybe it's nostalgia, the bar The bus All of this stuff is moving real quick And it's hard not to be entertained He told me that cops ain't shit And you were just pussies And y'all said he's gonna park his car And he don't care if it's a no parking zone Reggie explains The Iceman and Jack The Iceman Bought Your House Which Makes You Probably The Dumbest Motherfucker In Law Enforcement I Also Like The Line He Makes Gans Look Like Gandhi And Then He Does The Same Seven Years In Prison You Remember Every Story About Pussy You Ever Heard But We're Cooking It's Starting To Feel Like 48 Hours Again I Also Like Reggie Spots A Pickpocket I Love Anytime Somebody Says She's Dancing At A Birdcage Up In North Beach I Know I'm In The Right Movie That sounds great I thought the band was just terrible We get a bar fight and we get him shooting somebody And asking if anyone else wants a limp You like that scene? I mean all of this stuff is from the trailer The trailer itself I remember as a kid It was everywhere A lot of promotion for this movie This was like a big one right It shows everything that's happened to him And then it shows him shooting the gun like this Almost the same way he did Right yeah Shooting the gun like that Hilarious Chinatown hotel shootout At the King Mai First of all Some good stunts in this Some great stunts in that That's an intense Desperate shootout The hotel shootout is from a different movie That's not normally the type of shit that you get It's the same All the stuff with Cherry and Hickox Is from It's from the other version of the movie Yeah Because he think about him I fucking killed you pig That guy ain't trying to be funny That's like a serious fucking He's pissed the fuck off Have you ever wanted to jump into a garbage dumpster Into the big garbage bags like they do in these movies I feel like in real life you would do it You just get stabbed by a broken wine bottle and die It like no way you survive it The naked scene so easy It like this cushy fall But the thing that I never You jump into a Samsung TV and it shattering your own I don't think about getting back. I think about falling on somebody's old steak or some old gumbo they threw out or being in the middle of a pamper or some shit like that. So many bad things are in the garbage stuff. They're never in a movie. Hollywood's in crisis because you know there was like a day to a week of meetings about what should Cherry fall onto when we finally kill him. Or no, is it Cherry or is it the Iceman who falls into the water bottles? No, that's Cherry. And it's like, you can go out the window, what should he hit him? What should he fall on? And they probably were like, what would look fucking amazing? That would have cost $10 million now to throw a guy out of a window. That's a real dude. He's like fully a stuntman. Yeah. This movie's crazy with the stunts. We didn't even talk about the guy that for a nothing scene, like a nothing scene, This gets a torch, set on fire. Oh, I'm getting to that. Okay. A nothing scene. It's a whole thing. Instead of him being on fire, set a torch, set on fire for no reason. What about the stunt going through the movie screen and the motorcycles landing perfectly right between the aisles? Right. But that's not CGI. I don't know how they did that. That's movie magic, man. A tiny bit over to the left, you're just hitting a chair. Are you aware that in 1969 The United States was able to successfully Put men on a spacecraft And then get them to the moon I don't like your sarcasm He also might be a little bit dubious about whether that happened Do you think that it happened? Stanley Kubrick did that in the back lot of Paramount I stand with Danny Torrance Spaceship sweatshirt I really like Bernie Casey in this movie But I like when they go to visit him And he goes you will repay your debt to me and punches the glass when i was a kid that used to scare me he's in a different movie you must repay my debt to me bernie casey is the stuff that got cut out or just the explanation of that yeah is he the judd nelson you're in a different movie but i'm i'm really enjoying it yeah bernie casey's in shot caller he's not in another he's over here he hates reggie reggie's so scared of him and then when he punches his hole through the punches a hole through the fucking glass. That scared the shit out of me when I was a kid. By the way, Bernie Casey, pretty atypical role for him. He's running Lambda, Lambda, Lambda and Revenge of the Nerds. Even in the Black Foundation stuff, he was usually the good guy. He wasn't the bad guy. Around this time, or a little bit after this, I'm Gonna Get You Sucker comes out. Did Bernie Casey ever play Felix Leiter in any Bond movies? I don't think so. I always thought Bernie Casey was really good. He's the man. Anything he was in. But I really like him in this movie. Like a plus performer, whatever he was in. And then we had the Club North Beach final shootout. That's the last one. Ridiculous Iceman reveal. We get to see a hostage taken in a stripper cage elevator. Sign me up. You set me up, man. You were getting too close, Jack. I like when people are trying to kill each other, but they're having like a conversation. You set me up, CR. Iceman's got the... Sorry, man. You were losing control of the ringer. That's like hiding. That's the Mr. and Mrs. Smith. You're arguing while shooting each other Yeah Gans' brother falls to his death on a water bottle truck And then Jack the twist He shoots Reggie To get to Kia He shoots Reggie With I think a .44 magnum Reggie's shit is fucked up Yeah Reggie's not He's losing his arm Losing a ton of blood instantaneously I don't know why they didn't I thought they were setting him up to have him in a vest They mention it halfway through the movie Jack has a vest at the diner I thought oh this was a plan they concocted Where if he needs to be shot he can be shot Because he has a vest on and he's not in one I don't want to go all Lioness, ballistics We should have a whole pod called ballistics Where we talk about the guns in these fucking movies You get shot from that range with that gun Your shit is fucked up You need to be in the hospital table in an hour Yeah the 80's were a big gun I mean the Gans is carrying the Desert Eagle in this right So they were a big caliber gun decade before you. Jesus, I didn't realize American Sniper was here. What? It would have been funny, though, if he'd shot him where he shot him and he goes, there goes college golf ball. Oh, man. What do you got for most rewatchable, Sierra? Well, I'll just do a shout-out to the motocross scene because it is such an unnecessary use of burning a stuntman near the way to death. And I also love Brent Jennings in this movie as as bros um but it really there's no real reason to have that scene in the movie but it is awesome that they're just like what I need is a motocross track 25 experienced motocross bike riders then we're gonna have a stuntman get lit on fire with a shootout and all the motorcycles need to miss Nick Nolte by an inch a little bit yeah uh but my favorite scene is probably the that let Eddie Murphy cook the payphone Eddie Murphy just cook yeah I agree The payphone scene is my favorite scene. It's the one that I most get excited to watch. I will say, to your point about Brent Jennings, an underrated scene is when the two guys confront him in the room and they shoot his ear. Oh, Malcolm. Yeah, not Malcolm, no. Tyrone. Yeah, Tyrone. Brent Jennings in the movie, right? Yeah. Yeah, when they shoot his ear. That scene, once again... And he starts laughing. I think he laughs. He gets shot and laughs. It's like from a horror movie. It's also the way it's shot Is really Scary camera stuff You start to see How insane he really is Because he gets shot in the ear Then still delivers to them The message that he needs to So they can finish their job Then they finish him It's like when Trump got shot in the ear I know you're on Netflix now That didn't make sense I don't know what the correlation is Paramount maybe What's the most 1990 thing About this movie CR I think unironically ordering brewskis And then having those beers be Miller Genuine Draft bottles You know I recently tried Miller Genuine Draft for the first time That's not a great beer And then also just the Iceman using an Uzi What kind of beer do you drink He drinks Michelob Ultra Yeah, Modelo? Light beer, I love Miller Lite, Coors Light. Okay. Oh, a real American. Sure. There you go. MGD's not really around anymore. It's certainly not around in LA. I do not see MGD in LA. It tastes more like malt liquor. You know, these are the beers of my home. When I came out here, all the whites I knew, it was Pabst Blue Ribbon. It was like, give me a Modelo, give me a San Angeles IPA or whatever. When I'm from The ones that I grew up with Give me a Miller Lite, give me a Coors These are the Americans I know I hear things change, I don't even know Who are the Miller Lite people at the ringer Who are they? Chang loves a Miller Lite Oh, that makes sense I drink Michelob Ultra I got it It's refreshing It's only 90 calories My most 1990 thing about this movie is just The stage of Eddie's career He's kind of fat in this movie For him He hates watching this movie Because he thinks he's fat in it His hair is starting to go a little bit He just looks older He looks pretty good though He's wearing that big suit I feel like he looks handsome and in shape Yes No but if you watch the first movie That suit is tight on him Man my mama When we watched this movie She loved him She would not stop talking about How much weight Eddie Murphy had gained That's one of the things I remember You really feel it in the suit It's almost like a David Byrne suit on him When I watch it again though Like The suit is big What's the best Oh hold on I gotta do my most 90's What is it Convertibles in movies I can think of so many movies with people driving around In convertibles Twins, canine, people driving around In convertibles, having conversations In the open air in movies I looked it up Less convertibles in movies Because less convertibles period The convertible was phased out in the 90s I also wonder whether or not convertible is a better shot You know like you get like more of whatever Even if it's a screen background Cinematically You know what the problem is Fucking skin cancer That's code convertibles Didn't you have a convertible Yeah I had one for 25 years I always had a convertible Guess what i got a big melanoma on my forehead and that was it i never had a convertible again after that no i think i think people just would bake in the sun in a convertible and not think twice about it and now if people are a little more sun careful you don't really craig's generation you're too careful about the sun just more careful about the sun it is a thing you know people put on sunscreen every morning i don't do that but people that's a thing you're it's recommended for out here yes like a part of your daily morning routine is you apply sun back in the 90s just put that top down fucking bacon. Have an MGD. MGD. Better time. Go to a strip joint with a stripper cage. Watch the stripper cage elevator going up and down. This is the days. That's what they were watching. What stage is the best? What do you got, CR? Ball busting cop talk. Now, Jack, a cop is a guy, and sometimes a guy steps on his dick. This guy was obsessed with stepping on dick. He stepped on your dick He said it three times in one thing Yeah I just love all the ball busting that happens in the precinct We don't do it the same way anymore With precincts We just lost the narrative These chaotic precincts With a lot of sarcasm and a lot of insulting It just doesn't exist anymore Busting each other's balls You think work from home killed precincts I do I think COVID You know what we need at the ringer You know what we need at the ringer We need a police captain at the ringer. Just somebody who... Somebody walks in here, Lathan, get your motherfucking ass in my office! Yeah. We need to, like... Well, our guy got cut out of this movie, Frank McRae. Yeah. Who was the sergeant yelling at them in the first movie. Just out. Right. I always need that guy if I'm going to be in a comedy scene. Eddie Murphy apparently agrees with you because he's just Inspector Todd, but in San Francisco. Yeah. What do you have for what's age the best? The Analyst Between Rural And Metropolitan Americans I hear a lot of talk in this Hillbillies, Rednecks All this stuff We had it then and we have it now We can't get on the same page It's tough I have a Oh, also in Internal Affairs Internal Affairs in the 80s Scumbags Yeah, they fucking hated IA Every single movie IA scumbags I have two I Loves I love evil internal affairs guys Or seemingly evil but they're really doing their job And honestly like Villainous biker gangs Tell me when that doesn't work in a movie These guys are just bad guys and they got bikes You know what Villainous bad biker gangs Kind of culturally expired but then I feel like sons of anarchy And task In a very different way though I also had a fun action movie sequel gimmick Is the dead guy's brother Coming to Exact Revenge Sign me up If a bus can flip with prisoners Even better And then any movie that has an exchange like this We're looking for a whore That works here Angel don't work here anymore She's dancing up in North Beach I'm probably in the right theater I meant to come see the new Colleen Hoover But it turns out I'm right where I need to be You guys understand me This isn't Hamnet I thought I was Denothy's Benihana Award For scene stealing location And the Kid Cudi Pursuit of Happiness Award For best needle drop I'm giving to the Birdcage Which was that strip club at the end Which I thought was a really good bar scene You could also talk me into the first Sand Dunes Bar Sneaky candidate here is the King Mai Hotel for me Oh yeah Single room I can see Hour per rental um great jack order award most cinematic shot what do you got here there's a bunch uh walter hills a g i had there's a great shot of them coming up the hill in jack's caddy when they're pulling up to uh reggie's car for the first time before it explodes that's why there's like for some reason there's like spotlights going at the bottom of the hill in san francisco san francisco is just such a beautiful cinematic city anyway yeah um as we will discuss in zodiac But that was just a great shot There's a neat little shot when I think it's Reggie's getting out of jail To where they stop to talk And he shoots it from like behind bars Yeah, low Low angle where it makes them look like They're having a conversation in prison I had that one, I also really like The slow-mo of Reggie getting shot And Keough kind of realizing What's happening in slow motion As he sees Reggie sinking down And then turning back to Jack It's just like good slow-mo Very rarely do we have good slow-mo Here's a new award The Dorfler's Door Award For how much did that hurt Named after Marvin Dorfler In Midnight Run Getting a basketball Whipped in your face like that From close range Which he does to him And the nose? Yeah you're fucked So it might have had him in the chin I just feel like there's blood Yes I think that would really hurt Nolte gets off pretty easy in this movie compared to what happened in the first one. The first one, he's bleeding out of every orifice by the end of that movie. In this one, he's just kind of like, ah. Yeah. We'll take a break and then CR's got to flex. Alright, CR, flex category, what do you got? I'm going to do a double here, but it's the same scene. It's the same, so I hope it's okay with you. The Sean Fennessey Award for Stealth Homage that gives every movie nerd a criteria orgasm for essentially redoing the opening of once upon a time in the west with the bikers arriving at the bar in the beginning great spaghetti western opening and then the rich rick kiketty award uh meat award read the whole thing please the rick kiketty guard meat award for most memorable death by a security guard or other bystander whom the movie treats as inconsequential but who probably had a spouse and kids who love him or her for the female cop that gets desert eagled in the bar and gets blown through a window and it's just like all right that's the first thing that's a great new word i love that two cops now what about the poor bastard who's just coming out of his hotel room yeah yeah and takes four to the chest he's just like he was just getting a hand job yeah what kind of yeah he's in there one lady what kind of racket's going on out here and then boom boom boom boom he's dead those are great ones that was a mouthful sorry about that yeah is it chicketti or kicketti okay rick let us know i'm gonna add here the hans gruber scale villain ranking cherry gans what do you think five and a half six i like him do we need more comedy from him what was he missing i just little one note i don't mean to dominate floor here but this this is my hottest take oh do it now we got to get back to guys like cherry gans it was a deeply satisfying experience to watch just a truly psychopathic bad guy. Now I don't have to worry about his childhood or what he really wants in life or who hurt him. He's like, you killed my brother. I'm killing mad cops until I get to you. That was an awesome bad guy. So you'd go higher. It sounds like you'd go like eight. Yeah, I love Cherry. So angry. I thought I killed you. So angry. He wanted him fucking dead. Fucking dead. I killed you, man. I killed you a pig. I'm like, God damn, it was like an opera. We're really talking ourselves into this movie. Was there a better title for this movie? Do we like Another 48 Hours as a title? Another 48 Hours colon Cherry's Revenge. Oh, I love a colon. How about 48 Hours 2? Well, I mean, another makes more sense than that. How about 48 More Hours? Well, if they knew that they were going to take the 48 Hours part out of the movie, I would have just called it Jack and Reggie. Jack and Reggie. 48 hours to Reggie gets out. Yeah, that works. Butch's girlfriend award week link of the film. The plot's incoherent. And we covered all the reasons why. Jack can't find the Iceman for years, but never suspects other cops. Jack is such a fucking idiot. Reggie's buddy got in jail the entire time. Nobody asked him. Jack is dumb. Yeah. Okay, Jack is dumb. Every time I get close to Iceman. And Reggie realizes it's too. Reggie's like, hey, Jack The Iceman is a cop I couldn't be a cop Reggie's like, you deadass? It's definitely a cop, you're stupid as fuck Reggie's like 29 and he's been in jail for 10 years And he figures it out In a day, it takes him a day to figure it out Also, why wouldn't they just kill Jack? It's like, Jack's getting close Hey, how about this, let's just shoot him in the head tomorrow Cool, they'll kill everybody else I'll kill him What do you have for weakling? I had the Bernie Casey Tisha Campbell part Just felt like it was stapled on at the end What about her? Tisha Campbell is one of I have this argument about Tisha Campbell Oh boy I think Tisha Campbell is One of the most important performers In black cultural history She had a lovely Episode of the lowdown recently See Tisha Campbell Has been so consistent over the decades You can pop on Little Shop of Horrors Oh look at that Tisha Campbell Martin throughout the 90s House Party Boomerang You think about these fundamental parts Of black cultural film stuff She's there Pops up again My wife and kids Tisha Campbell has had A fantastic amazing career We don't appreciate her enough I just meant randomly endangering This woman at the end of it For no reason she was taken hostage Yeah I get that And also like doesn't Cherry kind of puts that one together pretty fast Do you have a weak link or no? The story is a weak link You know what I hate though There's one thing that I hate in the movie So because I know people And I know people that work in places Like Angel? Yeah I know people that work in places You've known Angel North Beach? I've known a lot of Angels And a lot of different North Beaches Except they're North Beach He comes up to her He goes He's $75,000 She goes If it comes from him It's probably got blood on it I don't want it That's not happening Taking it? That's not happening Okay $75,000 Hey man How's my dad doing? I appreciate it Give me the motherfucking money Get out the goddamn store Like every time I see something like that That's not I know the grandmamas The aunties The baby mamas All of that The $75,000 is being taken Yeah What takes the worst? I have a special What the hell were they thinking? piece for this where um jack goes to see reggie in jail who's playing basketball and the scene's not good how is that not a great scene that should have been the best scene in the movie they haven't seen each other in five years what's aged the worst is the gap between the two movies this this movie needed to come out in 87 or eight or something or 85 yeah i think that's fair um why have them sing roxanne again they just do there's a couple things they do in this movie it's like dude yeah it's almost a why didn't somebody on the set stop this award why is he singing when doves cry or something. Do you think this is a movie that they made and they were trying to make a movie where you didn't have to see the first one? Eddie's such a big star now that he's got like such an expanded... I'm asking. I think 48 Hours, everyone... It's not like 48 Hours was Rushmore. But you see this movie at this particular time. I think it was lazy. I was in there being lazy. The Ruffalo Hanna Rubinick Partridge overacting where it clearly goes to the hotel clerk in the chinatown hotel she dials it up for two minutes she's screaming i would also go for cherry when he sees that jack isn't dead oh he's going yeah man you have a flex all right another list the uh another 48 hours award for best black guy white guy action comedy duo okay okay um so we started the number five running scared That's the guy I put it in there I think this movie is criminally underrated People don't talk about it Number four 48 Hours Reggie and Jack These are just duos I would have that one but go You'd have that one There's only one one There's a clear one Number three I slid this one in here I don't know if I can actually use it I'm going Vincent Jules From Pulp Fiction You can use it Okay Vincent Jules Pulp Fiction A little bit of a stretch. No, not a stretch for me. Okay. Number two. This is not an action, but this is a comedy. And this is one of the top white guy, black guy duos in a comedy movie ever. And this is Wesley Snipes and Woody Harrelson. Yeah. Sidney Dean and Billy and White Man Can't Jump. Okay. Yeah. Number two. Number one is so fucking easy. 48 hours? No. It's Murtaugh and Riggs, man. It's Murtaugh and Riggs. It's fucking over 48 hours. Why fucking Mel did you do it It's like I can't believe that he did it A whole childhood with Mel and Mel threw it away Lethal Weapon, Riggs and Murtaugh By far, maybe the best Black guy, white guy duo Ever in anything But the movie gets made because of 48 Hours Who set the prototype That's why you think Kobe's better than MJ I've never said that I do think MJ's better than Dr. J I do think MJ's better than Dr. J Where you think Kobe's better than MJ? Is that something you said? No, he does. If you put like three Pabst Blue Ribbons in him, I do think MJ is better than Dr. J, though. I think 48 Hours is Dr. J, and Lethal Weapon is Dr. Jordan. That's fair. I'll accept the argument. I disagree, but it's fair. So you really don't think that Riggs and Murtaugh are number one? If you're going to put it like that, I see it. If you're going to make the 48 Hours is Dr. J, Did we do Lethal Weapon 2 yet for Rewatchables? Yes. We haven't done three um there are a couple horrible mentions jango uh men in black a personal one for me that nobody cares about the last boy scout and then we've done the last voice care about yeah i totally care about that i love the last boy scout and then one that no one ever brings up is money talks i really feel like in money talks chris tucker and charlie sheen have fantastic chemistry it was a really good movie to me i like it's a good list so you wouldn't put men in black in there men in Black didn't make out. I was trying to think of what to take out for Men in Black. I wouldn't put Men in Black in there either. Men in Black could maybe bump out Running Scared, but I just think Running Scared is like a... Were you a Richard Pryor, Gene Walter guy? I was as a kid, but I don't think those movies have held up great. Silver Streak's okay. I would have added Crockett and Tubbs to that, and then I would have been able to move into Colin Farrell and Jamie Foxx, which arguably could have been number two. If you're talking about overall duos, Crockett and Tubbs is way up there. This was a movie thing, but if you're talking about overall Duos, Kraken and Tubbs It's certainly the best on TV I'm a fiend for Mojitos It's a good list Good list The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford Hottest Take Award He already did his, what do you got Van? No Hot Takes I have one This is my number one release the cut movie Release the Walter Cut This is it, what's your number one? Release the cut movie The cut that we've never seen Well it got released the Snyder Cut was my number one so you don't have a number one now I don't have a number one I think I think of all of them I've kind of seen them like but the number one was I wanted to see what Zach would have done make us a promise right now when you know where the finish line is for you you're like I think it's gonna I think I got a couple more years left about 18 months out where am I going I'm just just didn't make me a promise you use the platform you have to get the another 48 hours why can't I do it now well I don't know I don't know if you've got the juice oh Chris What the fuck are we doing here No I see what he's doing He's known me a long time I'll tell you something though I know you've heard about this We're in the midst of the re-apex Of Bill? Yeah Prove it then Bill Simmons should be able to get the Walter Hill cut The re-apex bill Re-apex bill Craig just told me about this Craig you heard about the re-apex Have Sarandos call Walter Hill and be like, name your price. This is Brady in his late 30s That what you writing right now This is it The last three Which Bowl The 28 Brady The Malcolm Butler game through the Falcon So the re would have to include a release the cut. You can get it done. My number two would be Eyes of a Wedge Shut. Oh, yeah. Because I think that we have a lot of evidence that there might have been a different version of that movie before Kubrick died and then God only knows what we ended up with. But I think that would be number two for me. What about anything else for you? As far as director's cuts, I feel like more often than not now we get the cuts. It's funny. One of the ones I always wanted was 54 because I kind of like that movie. And it was supposedly like chopped to death like this movie. Oh, 54. 54, the Ryan Phillipe movie. Mike Myers. Mike Myers. I want to suck your cock. You remember that? It's one of the funniest moments in a drama of all time. This has been a weird episode in time. You don't remember that? I do. For some reason, I thought you were referring to the Roger Maris, Mickey Mantle movie. That's 61. Mike Myers freaks out and he comes on to what's-his-face. He comes on the right-close. He's counting the money. He's counting the money. He's drunk. He's high. It was a drama. We saw it in Boston. and the whole movie theater started laughing. It was like one of those. It's pretty hard for me to turn down a Studio 54 movie, though. Well, that's why... So they do the director's cut, and if you can get on Amazon, and there's like 12 more minutes, and it supposedly ties together all this stuff, it's like a B-. I almost wish I never saw the director's cut. It's fine. The best director's cut I've ever seen is Kingdom of Heaven 1. Oh, well, that changes the entire movie. That makes the movie... The movie was... I already kind of fucked with it, But that makes the movie into a fucking timeless epic When you watch the director's cut of it What a weird story by the way How could something like that happen to Ridley Scott? I know Well I mean it was to be fair Like a 3 hour and 10 minute movie Proof of Life would be a good director's cut Well we'd find out what happened With Russell Crowe and McRyan Okay You're not even with me anymore on Proof of Life I feel like Sean It's like You can't fucking say that I was there with you on day one Stuff of legends you know that I'm here with you You wouldn't want two extra scenes Of course I would yeah Were they shot though I can't even remember Oh they were definitely shot Those two extra scenes would explain The infidelity that happened on set Well that's why they cut them They cut okay I don't know I don't know this So you know He saves her husband in the movie right Does this whole thing But he says goodbye to her when they're about to see David Morse, the guy that she's married to. And they have this moment and they kiss and it's clear other stuff has happened that they cut out. And then it's this whole love triangle. But we never saw the scene that led up to the love triangle. Everything got cut. All of a sudden they have this tension. Where does this come from? On the set, allegedly, there was this affair. That's the most enduring thing about the movie. David Caruso is the most enduring thing about the movie. The most enduring thing. Stuff of legends! Do you know Fucking like they changed The public's perception of Meg Ryan after that Every single week I look at the Just Watch website To see if Kiss of Death Is on a streamer yet And the answer is always no That's a crazy fucking movie Casting with Ifs Don't really have any other than Frank McRae was in this Best That Guy Award I can give you So you think Brent Jennings is not a that guy I think Brent Jennings is that guy I think Brian James is not a that guy Brent Jennings I have Or the guy who plays Ben Cruz I didn't even know what that guy's name is Yeah he pops up a lot I'm going with Brent Jennings Brent Jennings helped me in my career Deion Waiters Really? One of my early successes at TMZ Got Brent Jennings on the street I asked him about a kid In Arkansas I don't know if you guys remember this story But he was scoring too many touchdowns and they made him stop scoring touchdowns. They said you can only score like five touchdowns in a game, and then he had to drop. I asked Brent Jennings about it. He got excited. He knew all about the story. Where did you find him? He was like walking around Beverly Hills. I was like, hey, did you hear about this kid? They won't let him score any more touchdowns or else the team has to. It's called the Madre Hill rule, like based on Madre Hill, who had gone to Arkansas. It's this big scandal. He knew all about it. He was excited to talk about it. Harvey was like, that kid's got it. Then he shot him in the air. Deion Waiter's the word Bernie Casey is the winner Oh I asked somebody else Kathy Haas for the Bar Stormers Bartender He's like are you going to tell me where I need to know Or are you just going to bitch a little bit more He's like I'm going to bitch a little bit more That's pretty good I have Bernie Casey but that's not bad I can get you out there Reggie You will keep your word I love him in this He spoke like a Shakespearean Repay your debt to me I would have watched the Director's cut five more scenes Recast the couch director of city No Walter Hill San Francisco Non-negotiables Craig Flex category Book about medals I think there's some really good Eddie lines in this I think he's very over the top Angry and then he balances that with some Good like restrained anger There's like a lot of talk about the wrongful conviction stuff I think is good There's a line in it where he says If shit was worth something Poor people would be born with no assholes I thought that was a great quote There's also a really good line where He and Bernie Casey are getting into a fight And they're like what was that about He's like old football bet I like when he tells Jack to leave He's like we gotta talk Black people stuff He has a lot of good It's like secretly pretty good advanced stats For Eddie in this movie I know he's pretty good in that too. Oh, okay. Half-factor in research. So Reggie calls one of his friends in the movie, and the guy's name is Willie Biggs. In the original 48 Hours, that's what Reggie Hammond's name was going to be, and Eddie asked him to change it to a different name because he thought it was too intentionally black. So they settled on Reggie Hammond. Brought back Willie Biggs. So apparently there's some book called The Films of Eddie Murphy, and they have the original screenplay for this. What? Jack's in a relationship with a female cop Who later says She wants to plant a gun at the racetrack To clear his name And then there's some other stuff But you can find out what they had In the original screenplay I do not Apex Mountain Nolte Getting close Nolte re-Apex Brian James Probably Although much to his chagrin I remember he was in a movie called Shocker he was the star of the movie Shocker which was a Wes Craven movie horror movie frustrating action movie sequels is there a more frustrating but lovable movie than this that was an action movie frustrating but lovable I'd say Predator 2 is frustrating but lovable oh that's a good answer but I'm in love with the fucking movie yeah but it's like Predator 2 I think we would have a great time doing Predator 2 as a rewatchable Is this a pitch? Just saying Danny Glover and Bill Paxton You guys I know that these movies Aren't critically acclaimed But these Are these movies These movies aren't bad That's like That movie is fun as fuck It's weird It's all out there I refuse to try to act like Predator 2 sucks That's a good movie You're talking to a guy Who did a two hour podcast On species Who are you talking to? Walter Hill No What did we decide Walter Hill's Apex Man was? Not the Warriors 48 hours or warriors? 48 hours probably Cruz or Hanks? Wait, Apex Mountain for guys flying through windows after being shot by a handgun doesn't get any better than this and they take off like 20 feet you know, like you get shot twice and you're just like flying across a bar and out of plate glass of window it's like Shea Gilchrist Alexander driving in the paint, flying backwards you're already starting the agenda yeah Cruz or Hanks Hanks as Jack Is that what we're talking Hanks as Reggie Cruz as It doesn't work So we have to pick though You do Are we Nolte or Eddie No it has to be the Nolte part Neither one of those guys can do that You have to pick What about Hanks as Iceman No it's gotta be the lead Okay You're the fucking What's the fucking place Yes You're like It was like a power play You know what this is The whole point is Who could be the lead Of this movie There's only one other time I've seen you like this Fantasy football The podcast? No Like the whole fantasy football Debacle that happened Where you caused a crash out When you made No I didn't cause Heifetz caused a crash out Heifetz sent a dissertation About a minor issue Sean stormed out At the text thread That fucking hysterical He's like whatever what Sean goes Let me show you Sean Finnecy has left the chat It is one of his funniest movies when he leaves the chat That was hysterical Alright so we'll go with Hanks Scorsese or Spielberg clearly Scorsese Yeah Best hang worst hang Probably Cherry Gans for worst hang I feel like The Brent Janks character is the most like Decent hang Yeah he's the most normal person Go to Vegas with him Hey man, Angel That's the best hang, baby Angel's the best hang She's up in North Beach I think if you're hanging out with Angel, you run the risk of running into Cherry That could get complicated I think it's worth it You always run that risk, though Worst hang, Cherry Gans Yeah, Cherry's too intense Hey, did you see the Phillies game too? I gotta kill you, fuck you Terrible tattoo on him Teardrop, sloppy teardrop It's way too big It's like kind of in front of his Well he wasn't doing it for clicks He was doing it because he put bodies away He's a body man baby Yeah it was no IG likes back then man He wouldn't have gotten any We've covered a lot of picking nits already Reggie does shoot a guy And then he had the bar After having just got out of jail Nothing happened Feels like that would have been something One of the nits that I picked here Is one of the top nits that I've ever picked In anything Anything There's a gunfight happening. I know that the Asian hotel clerk lady, I know she's a handful. I know she's a piece of work. There's a gunfight happening. She runs up to bitch Nick Nolte out during the gunfight. People are getting one guy screaming, I'm going to kill you, big. She runs. They busted at each other going crazy. She's still so. You guys are making too much noise. She runs up there to bitch out Nick Nolte While the gunfight is happening It makes zero fucking damage Almost every revolver in this movie has 14 bullets That is weird So how many realistically I will ask American Sniper over here How many can you realistically get off? Six Is there an eight? Can you pull off eight with a gun? What are you talking about? Are there guns where there's eight in the chamber? At one point Cherry Gant shoots 13 shots in a row Cherry's got clips Jack and Hickok One of those guys They reload a couple of times But this was a trope in the 80s movies They just did not care Now legitimately you see John Wick walking through the thing Pop pop pop pop pop He cycles the weapons he reloads it But in the 80s they just didn't give a fuck about that Maybe that was the most 1990 thing about this movie It's just never caring about reloading So Brent Jennings Shot to death In a police morgue getting ID'd Like two seconds later We lose all concept of time Isn't it the bike Malcolm Price So Malcolm Price They ID him All of a sudden we lose 10 hours And there's no Nobody goes to sleep in this movie One of the scenes that got cut out apparently Is like Nolte getting to Malcolm Price's house I think He's just in the morgue Nolte is involved in what The investigators think is a bad shoot And he goes to trial immediately Normally there's an administrative lead One day later There's a whole thing There's a hashtag That morning There's all kinds of shit That hashtag But he goes Hashtag free Jack Hashtag free Jack There's a whole thing But he goes to trial immediately Two more pick and nits for me So Jack is a virulent racist In the first movie Yes And then he said he quit drinking So did he also quit being a racist Why not mention that The two would be tied together Is the implication right Or did he learn his lesson By the end of 48 hours When he apologizes to Reggie at Torchy's Now is it? He was done with racism at that point? Or did it still seep out a couple times? I mean it's a different time It would have been interesting if they had done a movie in 1985 If he had still been a racist Bush presidency maybe helped him He still turned his back on Reggie Still left Reggie in the fucking slammer Didn't even come to visit him That's what you guys do Alright my biggest pick in that Cherry Gans What the fuck name is that? Yeah, I don't know. The other guy's name is Albert. Why is this guy's name like Hacksaw? I imagine it's Brad Gans, and he just cherries his nickname, but I don't know where that comes from. What mean Piker's nickname? Cherry. Like, Cherry Gans should be dancing in North Beach with Angel. Yeah. That's not like a bad guy's name. I guess the question is, if you saw him and you heard the name, would you step? Would you be like, yo, that's a bitch name? No, because he would just shoot me and I'd go backwards. Which is why he could be cherished. His real name is Richard. Richard Gans Nick Gans Dick Gans Dick Gans Dick What did they say in 54? What did Mike Myers say? I already did it I'm not trying to We captured lightning in a bottle You don't have to make him do it again It's already on Instagram God damn it Tragically Bill Simmons' podcasts were cancelled by Netflix the next day. Sequel, prequel, prestige, TVL, Blackhast are untouchable. I would have done a third one. Hold on, I gotta say something. That would be a mistake by Netflix. Yeah, he's re-apexing. What Netflix should do is they should... Hold on, hold on, hold on. What Netflix should do is they should cut that and then they should put... Do you want to know what movie Bill Simmons is talking about sucking cock in? Monday. Monday. Yeah. I would have done a third 48 hours over a third Beverly Hills Cop. I think Nolte was hot as Van described earlier from 1993 Cop comes out in like 94 the third one I just would have rather done 40 hours you gotta put Nolte in the bing you put Jack in prison and he gets brought out for 48 hours and Reggie is the one helping him I have something about that for unanswerable questions but before we do that is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins Fergie the Flores By the way, CR, Kyle Brandt loved Fergie the Forest so much did it for just one of the guys in your honor. Or somebody else. Who do you have, CR? I got Tom Brady analyzing Angel doing both of those guys. Oh, shit. Well, KB, first Hickok had his way with Angel. And now you got a question. Does she have enough in the tank for Cherry? You always run into that with Eskimo Brothers. Two talented lovers, KB Excited to see what happens next She's so impressed with her stamina, KB She's been dancing in North Beach all day Absolute talent KB, with the cold weather You have to change how you dance in the cage To use your tiptoes Just want to ask her who gets it The stunts The stunts are great in this movie The stunts are awesome And I think it won the award for best stunts of 1990 Honestly, we should make an Oscar for best motorcycle driving and it should be in for this movie. Yeah. Probably unanswerable questions. So sometimes they'll do this in a movie where it's like, Angel, she's the best. They did this in the Gold Club trial. Remember the Gold Club trial? They had the stripper in the Gold Club trial. They said it was the Michael Jordan of strippers. Yeah. I just always wonder how the reputation first gets earned and then spreads. You do wonder that? Yeah, I do. You really have to stand out So Angel just apparently I don't know if Van had any thoughts What are you Googling? Something different Just for strippers? Angels like they're talking about What are the measurables for strippers? What's the advanced analytics? But they're different disciplines right So if you're talking about a stage dancer If you're talking about a lap dance If they're talking about it I mean there's different disciplines right They're talking a little extra They're talking a little bit extra Like what she does up there but then how that translates To some extracurriculars after You know after hours But those guys are definitely talking about legitimately Which strippers grind on you and get your shit off That's probably what Patrick Ewing was into So here's what I would have done For this movie unanswerable Tell me if this would have been better 48 Hours 2 it starts Reggie owns Roman's The bar in 48 Hours 1 Oh okay the bar when he's like when he meets Olivia Brown and is dancing with her and Jack comes in near the end. He's like, of course you don't know about this place. It's popular with the brothers. He owns Romans. He bought it. He's now buddies with Jack. Jack gets framed for a murder by Gans' biker gang. Goes to jail. Reggie has to mortgage Romans for like 72 hours to get him out to find the biker gang. We flip it, Jack's the one in jail Reggie has money, Reggie's now helping him But he's got something online Because he mortgaged a bar, I think it's a better movie Not bad, 100% I don't know that it's vampires And like So maybe that should have been three So you want to keep the western brotherhood in the mix though Yeah, I like the biker guy What piece of memorabilia Hold on, I have an unanswerable question Which is a better movie Lawyer and Lace or Fleshpot Saw that on the Chinatown porn theater Chinatown porn theater Probably Fleshpot It depends on how much of a plot guy you are Well if you're Into To plot then it's gotta be Lawyer and Lace I'm saying it depends it's really a taste thing If it's usually going straight Gonzo Fleshpot Fleshpot It's just Gonzo You know what I mean The piece of memorabilia You'd want or not want from this movie Probably the motorcycle Gans' motorcycle Gans' motorcycle was cool I loved Reggie's car man I know we're not allowed to pick cars What about the Jack's There's one brief moment where he's staying at that pen That has the naked woman on it That reveals herself when the ink goes down That was kind of fun Reggie's Walkman Oh the lighter would be good I'd want the James Brown tape Coach Finstock, Mr. Miyagi Award Best Worst Life Lesson Craig already did it, if shit was worth something Poor people would be bored with no assholes Best Double Feature Choice, 48 Hours? Sure, I went Tangling Cash Yeah, spiritually it's probably more related Then who won the movie? Eddie Murphy Craig, what do you got? This is not a complicated rewatchable at all to me To be honest, I enjoyed this more than the first one Wow I saw the first one because you guys did the original like in 2017 early really early pre-categories i was not producing the show so i just watched it on my own a few years ago uh i thought it was okay i thought it was slow not nearly as funny as it should have been for how like it's it's quite racist obviously but i didn't think it was that funny i was like i don't really get the appeal to this It's not even that funny It's quite racist obviously This one cuts out all that To me I thought it was funny I thought it was really enjoyable And it's just As Van outlined in his Top 5 Buddy cop thing it's just something that works If you get two charismatic people it's 100 minutes They're in a city they're running around It plays all the way up through the nice guys What are we fucking doing When's the last solid black guy white guy pairing Oh shit I would do that guy I'm starting to really like the guy From who's on SNL now Cam Patterson I saw a little glimmer of That I think Somebody enterprise But maybe he's the Reggie Hammond type role It could be Shane Gillis in somebody Could be I think Cam is fucking hysterical Shane gets Shane is a cop You put Cam with Timmy Tim Robinson? No. Chalamet. You put Cam with Timmy Chalamet. I'm telling you. Well, that means you could put that Chalamet is the answer to every movie question. But the point is in this one, you're going to put, you're going to make, either you subvert it and you go like Timmy's like straight up, the straight lace one and Cam gets to go crazy, or you really fuck with the audience. You make Cam play it straight and you let Timmy go fucking wild. And you put those guys together. I think you've already overthought us. The problem is, Nolte and Eddie Murphy were major stars. This is why I was kind of thinking because of the actors on actors videos. It would have to be like Michael B. Jordan and Shane Gillis. It would be Michael B. Jordan and Jesse Plemons. Michael B. Jordan's just like having fun for a month on set. He's like, fuck it, I'll just do this. See if it's Michael B. Jordan. But did you see Michael B. Jordan with Jesse Plemons in the actors on actors videos? I did. But Michael B. Jordan's funny. He's never really unleashed that in a movie. Jesse Plemons is funny in Daylight. Yeah. So Game Night. Stars need to be more comfortable making movies like this because it's fun. Now, do you go generational here? Because a lot of these movies that we're talking about Besides the white man can't jump And stuff like that there's an age gap And that age gap kind of builds into the comedy So you could go If you're going to do MBJ you can go a little older if you want That's right Do we have confirmation on him doing Miami Vice yet? No Him and Austin Butler? I don't know what happened I really tried to wish that into existence And I don't know what's going on I don't know if Austin Butler works for me for that For Crockett? Yeah I don't think so Who works? I need him a little older. I don't know if he's old enough yet. I also, I need to know if Austin Butler is okay not taking himself seriously in a movie. Well, Sonny Crockett's kind of a... I mean, he doesn't really take... Yeah. Elvis. Like, you think he takes himself seriously in Elvis? Well, it's a very serious role that he really commits to. I want to see him, like, loose and having fun. Oh, yeah. He's pretty loose. Crockett's kind of a dour guy, though. Like, Crockett's not like... Craig was an actor. Oh, I was. You didn't see my work? I haven't Nationwide commercial? 2016? Yeah Gruden Grinder Well then why don't you fucking do it then? It's you and MBJ I'm waiting Waiting for the call Bring her films I gotta think of who it would be But like they haven't done it in a while But like Michael B. Jordan would be great He's a big star Django maybe Charismatic Now more than ever we just need People who are together And just make the same jokes Make the jokes Like make them I remember White Men Can't Jump There's like a The whole thing Is directly Just have the fun We know It's never failed where the people don't like each other For the first 40% of the movie And have to learn to work together And then by the end they'll like each other I'm going to like that every time I don't really care who the two people are I even like The Heat with Melissa McCarthy and Sandra Bullock I thought that was good The Heat's good, you like The Heat? Yeah, The Other Guys Funny, works That's it for the rewatchables CR Another great one from you I thought we all elevated each other You never see The surprise we do Make a prediction who's going to win the national championship tonight Well but this is running on Wednesday I know but like it'll be a nice little time capsule I actually really think Miami's going to win I don't know why I just think it'll open up this whole door To how long should somebody stay in college football With Carson Beck Who's I think my age Indiana's whole team Is 25 Yeah, every single one of them, man. Extras in the first girls. Thanks, man. No problem. Thanks, Sierra. Did you say extras in the first girls? In like the season of girls? And Eduardo. Thank you, Eduardo. Thanks, Eduardo. And Zodiac is coming up next. You have a week to watch it. Gotta go watch that.