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Thank you for having me. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being had. Before we get to what you did, the new thing you tried, tell us a little bit about yourself. Who is Michael? I'm a cis by male. I'm in my late 40s and this is all very new to me. Not the cisness of it. It's not even cis for a while. What's new to you? Being on a podcast, being by? The podcast part, definitely. But being by or rather acting on it, I've been attracted to men my entire life, but I haven't done anything about it until my late 40s. What inspired you to finally do something about your attraction to men? I had a woman break my heart. Aw. Yeah, thank you. Welcome to Man on Man Action. No man has ever broken another man's heart. It's just impossible. You're safe now. You're safe for broken hearts. I'm glad to hear that. But yeah, so a female-male relationship ended and I thought I would try other things. So I've hooked up with a couple of men now and I've thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm glad to hear it. I'm glad it went well. I'm glad you weren't just... Some people believe thereby, recognize that people of the same sex are attractive and then sometimes decades after accepting that they're by, they finally act on it. They're like, oh wait, no, not for me. That was a good hypothetical, but not a good practice. But I'm glad it worked out for you in practice too. I'm glad you're enjoying... It did, yes. A couple of awkward meetups, but in general, they've all been very good. I'm glad to hear it. So what is besides men, what is the new thing that you tried that you wanted to talk with me about on After Action Report? Well, I met up with a man and we masturbated in front of a Zoom call of other men masturbating. Okay. How did you find your way to this particular Zoom caller? Was it just a Jeffrey Tubin situation where you hijacked a work meeting and pulled kicks out? Well, let's call this other man Gary. That's my cat's name. But Gary invited me over and on his computer, he had found a Zoom call, which he had done in the past, but I had not. That consisted of around 100 different people and they were all masturbating in front of the camera. Some Zoom video had multiple people like us. So the two of us got naked and masturbated in front of the camera and we did other things. I performed oral for the people online. Oral for the people. Oral for the people. That's right. Exactly. And I felt really good about being the subject of voyeurs. But it was interesting because there were a couple of weird things that I saw online that I... Before we get to the weird things. Websites like Chatterbait, there have been websites for people to go on and jack off with other people. Was this like a Chatterbait platform or was this like a private Zoom call that somebody set up that Gary knew about and got invited to? It wasn't private. It was found via Telegram. They had listed a public platform for male gay masturbation. And we found it through there and just multiple people looking at multiple people. Could you highlight a particular person that you wanted to see? Yes, which was great. If you found someone that you found particularly attractive, you could do private conversations with them. And that's where we did most of our hooking up was in these private conversation rooms. And when you say that you blew Gary for the people, the people united and orally pleasuring each other will never be defeated. When you did oral for the people, performed oral for the people, did you show your face? A lot of these Chatterbait sites are just like dicks and torsos and not a lot of faces. But if you were showing the oral, you were showing your face. You felt comfortable enough being seen? Yes, I'm very comfortable with my binos and I'm very comfortable with being naked on camera. I'm not a porn star by any means, but I was very happy to give oral with my face showing. You are a very good looking man. Don't run yourself down. Thank you so much, Dan. You got to see you with a dick in your mouth. They won. So how was the experience overall? What was interesting about it? It was great. It was showing off in front of people was very interesting. Masterbating next to someone was extremely satisfying. And being able to do oral in front of a large group of people felt very sexy to me. The showing off part was just, it kept me hard. You liked being seen? I did, yes. And you weren't worried about screenshots and you're not a US senator so far as I know? No, I'm not. You can tell by the lack of a tie. But no, I'm not that concerned about screenshots or things like that. Maybe I should be, but I'm not. It basically comes down to me being very open to my girlfriends in the past who knew I was bi. Even when we were monogamous, they knew that I was sexually attracted to men. And me being open to the world is absolutely fine by me. I have an emerging theory that almost everybody has some dirty pics online, some pics they shared privately that they can't know if they haven't wound up being hacked or being shared without their knowledge. And I just feel like there's this emerging kind of unspoken subconscious cultural consensus that so long as the dirty stuff you're doing online isn't a dirty stuff silo online, so long as you're not Jeffrey Tubin hauling your dick out during a work meeting, as long as you're hauling your dick out online in a place where people have self-selected to see dicks and you made that effort to keep your professional and sort of public-facing Instagram self-public from who you might be sexually online that you won't be punished, that the reaction won't be punitive. Because anybody who drags your dirty photos from the dirty photo place to the not dirty photo place, they're the ones who made other people who didn't want to see your dick look at your dick. They're the ones who violated not quite your privacy, because you are making these things publicly available, but violated the cultural compact around silos. And I just, I really wanted to, I've said this before and I really just said it again, I just think this silo thing, I'm sorry, I'm kind of sucking my own dick right now here, the silo thing is a little genius, because I really think this is what's happening. Because I recently interviewed Colby Cox, who's a porn star, but also manages a bakery in a small town in Wisconsin. And everybody knows that he's got a porn career. And 20, 30 years ago, you would have been fired from that managing the bakery on the corner job if everybody at work found out that you also were a porn star on the side. But now people are like, cool, cool that you're a porn star on your own time. Be sure the bakery is running smoothly and we're turning a profit and we're not going to have a problem. And so I think that's what you benefit from that subconscious awareness. That's as long as you're siloing things correctly, your dick's in the dick place, your face is on Instagram, and your face is with your dick in your dick place. And you can get away with that now in a way that you couldn't 20, 30 years ago and feel safe doing that. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right with that. I feel comfortable. I like to hear. I feel comfortable in these situations. I've met up with him since having this first experience and we did the same exact thing. And I felt just as comfortable as before. So tell us about the people that you encountered. You got a glimpse into people's lives, into people's living rooms, bedrooms. What did you see? Well, that's interesting. We saw a lot of people just naked in front of the camera masturbating, but there were a surprising amount of people doing meth. They called it Tina, but it was still meth. Yeah, it's meth. Yeah. And there was a surprising amount. What's your going to try to put a percent? You say surprising amount, like half, 10%? No, no, no. I would say 20, 20%. 20%? Oh, yeah. It's a big number. And they seemed of right minds, but they were highest shit. Yeah, yeah. You came to the Zoom jackoff party without having to disinhibit because you were not inhibited about it. You were comfortable in your own skin, comfortable with a dick in your mouth, comfortable showing off. I'm sure there are people who can only get there if they disinhibit with an assist from drugs or alcohol because they want to be there, but they struggle with shame and they have to rely on the disinhibiting effects of something like meth or they're on a bender. I do want to jump in here to say 20% of gay men do not do meth. This is not a representative sample of gay and bi men. The 20% on this 1,000 person Zoom call. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of gay guys out there who do chem sex and party drugs and I feel like it's not healthy. It's not good. It's not sustainable and it's really dangerous. I've watched people destroy themselves with meth. So this is your Nancy Reagan, just say no to meth. Say yes to pot. Say no to meth. Message kids. But that is distressing. I would be distressed by that. I would probably lose my boner. I'm not comfortable being naked in front of a camera. But like if I were, I think if like every fifth guy I encountered was high as fuck on meth and firing up a pipe, I would probably go soft and leave. Well, one thing should be noted is that we spent most of our time on private conversations with people and we always away from the methods. Yes, we always chose the non method. Anything else? Yeah. More distressing than that. Wait, more distressing than meth? Yes, definitely. There were a again surprising amount, nowhere near 20%, more like one or 2% of men were dressed as Nazis. They either had swastikas in the background or they were full in uniform. And what the fuck? Exactly. It was so distressing. I typed into one of them and was told not to do it by Gary because he said that's what they want. And that is what they wanted. But I couldn't deal with it. Like I had us change rooms until we found another idiot and then we would change rooms again. But they existed and they... Oh my God. Yeah, it's a thing. The Nazis, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? Well, my head hurts a little bit. That is so distressing and nobody that you confronted. You confronted a few people. I confronted one. I didn't say I'm in rehearsals for sound of music. I'm backstage during intermission. No. I'm a fucking goddamn Nazi who wants to jack off in front of other men. Gary left the room before we got a response from him because he said this is what they want. Let's not give it to them. But how do you not say something to someone dressed as a Nazi? No, it's so distressing. And we left rooms. I left rooms anytime we saw somebody dressed like that or with a flag in the background. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I support that. Was there nobody with the power to like bounce anybody from this Zoom? I don't know. I don't know. I would hope there was somebody, whoever called the Zoom meeting, curated. There's a... Your even ability. I do Zoom meetings myself. If I had somebody off, I would try to find that person and ask them why they're not kicking off. Maybe not like the meth heads can stay, but Jesus fucking Christ, the Nazis? I was looking back at it. Maybe I should have found that person and I feel dumb for not trying. Okay, so Nazis, meth heads, but you enjoyed sucking dick. You enjoyed having private conversations and private interactions with people that weren't smoking meth and weren't fucking Nazis. Yeah. Did you experience Nazis and meth heads not withstanding? Yeah. The whole thing was very positive. The mutual masturbation, masturbating next to somebody was a lot of fun. Oral in front of a group of people was very rewarding because I'm really into pleasure. I'm a bottom. So that and oral, me giving those is very pleasurable. Well, I'm glad to hear it. I'm also glad to hear that you've been able, even when you hadn't ever been sexually active with men, that you were able to be out to the women that you were with and that you were received by them positively. And if not allowed to fuck around, if these were monogamous relationships, you were at least not shamed or closeted in your opposite sex relationships. And more by guys need to hear that that's possible for them. It definitely is. It doesn't mean you have to act on the being by if you're in a monogamous relationship, but you can be out and by to a woman and have her support and not have to hide. I had support from several women. So I think it's definitely possible for other men. So Michael, would you do this again? Have you done this again? I have done this again. On your own or with Gary? It was with Gary. And I'll go back to Gary. Gary is the root of all zoom masturbation. He is. Yes. We all need to Gary in our lives. Michael, we've got a little over time, so I have to say goodbye, but thank you so much for sharing this experience. Oh, thank you for listening. My pleasure. My pleasure. I'm sorry. I mean, I enjoyed listening and enjoyed chatting with you. I was sorry to have to listen to meth heads and Nazis. 20% and one 2%. Yeah. Too high a percentage in both cases if you ask me, but I'm glad it was a positive experience. And here's to a future of online zoom masturbation hangouts that are meth head and Nazi free that are curated zoom hangout. Great. Thank you very much. Thanks, Michael. Thank you, Michael. If you stepped through the sexual looking glass or climbed through the back of the wardrobe or fell down the rabbit hole and you came back with a great story to tell about a new sexual adventure, write it down and send it to us at q at savage. Love and you might be my next guest on this show. We will be back next week on all new after action report. 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